1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:03,880 Speaker 1: This is the best of two pros and a couple 2 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 1: Joe with Lamar Airings and Brady Winn and Jonas Knox 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:11,320 Speaker 1: on radio. 4 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 2: One of the one of the things that I've been 5 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:18,239 Speaker 2: hearing is that, like the Patriots don't deserve to be here, 6 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:21,120 Speaker 2: Like if you really go back to the last game, 7 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:24,080 Speaker 2: you know, if you know bo Nix is playing, Broncos, 8 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 2: probably win that game. Not for some Sean paid decisions. 9 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 2: There's been a little bit of that because Seattle is 10 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 2: a decent favorite. I don't I wouldn't say there was 11 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 2: it four and a half, five and a half still 12 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 2: somewhere in that barn depending the book, but it's not. 13 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 2: It's not like they're a touchdown favorite, right. This isn't 14 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 2: going back to who is who beat at the Atlanta 15 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 2: Falcons back when they were the dirty Birds? 16 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 3: Is that the forty nine. 17 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 2: Ersh Broncos Bronco? Like it wasn't like that sort of 18 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 2: mismatch over Tim Dwight. Yeah, to Brady, That's what I'm 19 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 2: talking about. 20 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 4: Big tenor, Yeah, that is one of the fastest white 21 00:00:58,520 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 4: boys I've ever. 22 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 3: Seen and my entire life, and they're on a lot 23 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 3: of them. 24 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 4: That dude would step away from you like light speed. 25 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 4: There he goes like, why did you kick him the ball? 26 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 4: Why can I be honest? 27 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:13,399 Speaker 3: Do you ever look at guys like that that Will 28 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 3: White and just go on steroids? They all have a 29 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 3: certain look to him, because I do. 30 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 4: They all have a certain look to him, like Tim 31 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 4: Dwhite looks like how but Mac looked. 32 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 3: My experience was like I had a receiver. 33 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 2: You know, I'm not gonna say who am I past 34 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 2: at some point playing because if I said where, like 35 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:35,760 Speaker 2: people are like, oh, that got to be I know 36 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 2: who that guy is. 37 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 3: He went to Iowa, but he. 38 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 2: But he took he took Winstraw and I've never seen 39 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:47,039 Speaker 2: a dude develop And I was like, oh wow, like 40 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 2: he got that much faster, Like it was like extremely 41 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 2: obvious that he was doing something, and it was it 42 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 2: helped him out. 43 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 3: The White. 44 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 5: Was fast, like they should have switched his names, you know, 45 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 5: yeah White, Yeah, not as fast as a crackhead. 46 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 3: No, no, but no. 47 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:18,920 Speaker 5: But your point talking about the mismatch, Well, a mismatch 48 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:21,640 Speaker 5: people tend to feel like this could be a blowout. 49 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 5: There's some betters who are looking at that from that standpoint, 50 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 5: it's so crazy and look I'm not. 51 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 2: Gonna saying it shouldn't be here, Like clearly they've earned 52 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 2: the right to be here. But I do feel like 53 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 2: there's a lot of people talking about, oh, the path 54 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 2: to get to the playoffs was easy, and then everything 55 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 2: kind of worked out in their favor too. 56 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 3: You know, Drake me hasn't played his best and he's been. 57 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 5: The playoffs despite playing against number one defenses. 58 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 3: It's like CJ. 59 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:48,359 Speaker 2: Shroud probably one of the worst performances we've seen the postseason, 60 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:51,919 Speaker 2: a backup quarterback bad Weather in Denver, you know, playing 61 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 2: that game. So you start to kind of look through 62 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 2: it and go, I could see why they're saying that. 63 00:02:57,200 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 2: I just think this is gonna be a tighter, lower sco. 64 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:02,399 Speaker 2: I think both defenses are the best part of both 65 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:02,919 Speaker 2: these teams. 66 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 3: Is it tough to win on the road in the NFL? 67 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 3: Hell yeah. The Patriots won every game on the road 68 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 3: this year. 69 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 5: They won every game playoffs, regular season they was on 70 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 5: the road. 71 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 3: I will say whatever you want, that's impressed. 72 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:18,839 Speaker 4: I will also say this though, historically speaking, that has 73 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 4: been the position outside of obviously once their reign a 74 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 4: tear began. 75 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:26,920 Speaker 3: That was how they came into it. The first time around. 76 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 4: You know, they were underdogs and a lot of people 77 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 4: are like, there's a lot of you know, there was vets, 78 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 4: a lot of vets, some good vets on the team, 79 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 4: but they were looked at as they did not have 80 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 4: a real threat at receiver. You know, you got this 81 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 4: young quarterback, he's really relatively unproven, even though you knew 82 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 4: his name. 83 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 3: It wasn't like what it became, and. 84 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 4: They stepped into a situation where they started they started 85 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 4: their streak. I look at this game and I say, 86 00:03:56,880 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 4: it's a dangerous game for Seattle of what it is 87 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 4: that you're talking about those factors coming into this game. 88 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 4: Looking at this New England Patriots, seems everybody continues to talk. 89 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 3: About the difficulty of their schedule. 90 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 4: It totally played in their favor because of the easiness 91 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 4: of it. The things the elements of the playoffs that 92 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 4: played out that you talked about. I mean, you go 93 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:25,040 Speaker 4: into a championship round game and the starting quarterback isn't there. 94 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:28,279 Speaker 4: And you've talked about this in shows pass like luck 95 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:31,839 Speaker 4: plays a part and being able to get to this game, 96 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 4: and sometimes that luck you're on the other side of it, 97 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 4: like for Denver, they were on the other side of luck, 98 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:41,719 Speaker 4: and it was tough luck, but nonetheless it happens so 99 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:46,040 Speaker 4: to me, I would be I would be very, very 100 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 4: afraid and on notice if I'm Seattle, because you don't 101 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 4: want to be that team that comes into the game. 102 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 3: It's like they're the favorite. 103 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 4: Sam Darnold is the super Bowl sweetheart and the new 104 00:04:56,880 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 4: unsung hero and Nada you got this new head code 105 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 4: and all of these storylines playing out in favor of Seattle. 106 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 4: It sets up the Cinderella story to be even that 107 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 4: much better. 108 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 2: Well, which Mike Frable promised Lena. He's the type of coach, 109 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:12,719 Speaker 2: a guy that would be like, this is what they're saying, 110 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 2: you know. 111 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 5: Like the first you mentioned the Patriots when they won 112 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:19,679 Speaker 5: their first Super Bowl. They were fourteen point underdogs against 113 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 5: the Rams. That that was. 114 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 3: How was the spread? Yeah? Fourteen? Good God for the 115 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:27,159 Speaker 3: Super Bowl. I don't remember that. I don't remember. 116 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:29,160 Speaker 4: And they all came out together. Yeah you know how 117 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 4: they remember? Okay, they would such bro I remember so vividly. 118 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 4: I was there too, by the way, I didn't go 119 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 4: to the game, but I was there doing like the week. 120 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:44,720 Speaker 4: Let me tell you something it was. I mean, you 121 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:49,840 Speaker 4: want to talk about gushing over a team. Oh, oh, 122 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 4: greatest show on turf? What are they going to do? 123 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 4: They're just there for the show? Yeah, no, no, no no, 124 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 4: And that's why I look at it. But that makes 125 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 4: them more dangerous because if you think about it, they 126 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 4: have to lean into the same principles and the same 127 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 4: type of values that New England does, which makes this 128 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 4: a very well evenly balanced match game because they're leaning 129 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 4: on defense, leaning into the run, manage the situation with 130 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 4: the past. 131 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 3: But I don't know. 132 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 5: So let me ask you guys this though, because this 133 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:29,279 Speaker 5: was asked me yesterday, and I'll wait to respond, But 134 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 5: is this Seattle defense as good as the one that 135 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:33,720 Speaker 5: won them a Super Bowl? 136 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:35,040 Speaker 3: Yes? 137 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 4: No, yes, not as known, not as known, but close. 138 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 4: I'll say this name wise, like the Legion of Boom 139 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 4: is the Legion of Boom? Like I think that like upfront, like, 140 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:54,479 Speaker 4: well you have Bobby Wagner and those guys too. Yeah, 141 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 4: all right, let me let me take one step back, 142 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 4: Let me take my step back. 143 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:02,159 Speaker 2: Let me give you break it down. I think the 144 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 2: Legion of Boom was better. They might have settle a 145 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:07,479 Speaker 2: part the big differences, and you could be right, like 146 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 2: this defense as if it wins and as it continues 147 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 2: to gain. 148 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 3: Momentum, we'll get those accolades. 149 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 2: But the difference is they change in scheme when when 150 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 2: Pete Carroll was there, like they basically ran Cover three 151 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 2: and it was a few variations of that's man, that 152 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 2: was it. There wasn't almost any split safety. So you 153 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 2: knew what they were going to run. You knew you 154 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 2: had an extra guy in the box, you understood how 155 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 2: to break it down. 156 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 3: They were just so damn good. They exuded. 157 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 2: You know, they beat you up with the line of scrimmage. 158 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 2: You know they they they were you know, pinning and 159 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 2: and really set edges and then rushing. 160 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 3: Wise. Man, they had so much speed off the edge too. 161 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 2: Guys like Chris Clemens, guys like Bruce Irvin, guy, I mean, 162 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 2: they they were. 163 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 3: They were good. 164 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 2: Now, Michael Bennett right, like you kind of tend to forget, 165 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 2: like I'll never forget. You got that white talents hip 166 00:07:58,320 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 2: hit he can that springs ten, he hit that thing. 167 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 3: I get it going. 168 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 2: I was like, good god, you know, like you know, 169 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 2: he's jumping off the ball. 170 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 4: That team they were ready. They were pretty solid. 171 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 2: But what I'd say is, you knew what they were 172 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 2: going to do defensively, and they were just so damn 173 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 2: good executing. They try to take away what you were doing. 174 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 2: This team's different. I don't think that they can play 175 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 2: that way and execute as well. They have to have 176 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 2: a little different variety of coverages, blit scheme, everything else, and. 177 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 3: There's nothing wrong with that. That's more Mike McDonald than 178 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 3: anything else. 179 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 2: But I would just say that's to me the biggest 180 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 2: difference where this group still has to earn it. 181 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 3: That group already earned it and then we went to 182 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 3: two Super Bowls back to back. 183 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:43,559 Speaker 4: I would say this defensive front, their front seven is 184 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 4: equally as talented as as that group that went to 185 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 4: the Super Bowl. And with that being said, schematically speaking, 186 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 4: like you're talking the evolution of offenses, the offensive game 187 00:08:57,240 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 4: plans and how those things has has changed quite a 188 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:03,439 Speaker 4: bit since since that that Super Bowl that that last 189 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 4: Seattle teams going to as well, which creates different new complications. 190 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 4: But in some and in some instances, it isn't going 191 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 4: to be as daunting a task of defensing this this 192 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:21,680 Speaker 4: this uh this offense that that they're going to have 193 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:23,440 Speaker 4: to face with New England. 194 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 3: If they can be stout up front. 195 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 4: And really really make Drake may uncomfortable, which I believe 196 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:34,320 Speaker 4: they can do that if the game gets placed on 197 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:38,199 Speaker 4: Drake May's arm is as impressive as he has been 198 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 4: a player this year. I think it plays into the 199 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 4: favor of the Seahawks. Sam Darnold is and it's interesting 200 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 4: to say, but I think his experiences will actually play 201 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 4: a major role in this game. 202 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 3: Not seeing ghosts this time. 203 00:09:57,160 --> 00:10:01,439 Speaker 4: You know, just much more mature, much more wiser, the 204 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:03,679 Speaker 4: things that he has seen, the things that he has 205 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 4: experienced getting to this point. I think it just bodes 206 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:12,200 Speaker 4: well for the matchup to be. I don't look at 207 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 4: it and say Seattle's coming into this as a fourteen 208 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 4: fourteen point favorite because of anything else other than their defense, 209 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:24,080 Speaker 4: as we're speaking of, is going to be the type 210 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 4: of defense that makes it very difficult for them to 211 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 4: establish to run the New England Patriots. If they cannot 212 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 4: establish to run, it's going to be a very very 213 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:37,080 Speaker 4: hard game. It might turn into an ugly game. Not 214 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 4: a pretty game for people to watch, but it could 215 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 4: turn into an ugly games versus the Seahawks. 216 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 5: So there's a lot of talk about you mentioned Drake 217 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 5: Mayne and the defenses he's played in the postseason like 218 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 5: for the top defenses in the league, and. 219 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:54,560 Speaker 4: Give them credit for that. Give them credit because Houston 220 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 4: came in. They were the Houston is like that Ravens defense. 221 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 4: They could have got this team to the super Bowl 222 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:02,680 Speaker 4: with their defense. 223 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:06,200 Speaker 5: But on the flip side, Sam Donald played the forty 224 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 5: nine Ers, whose defense is awful and the Rams, who 225 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 5: who knows what you get game to game, but not 226 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:17,559 Speaker 5: a great defense. It's also the third time he played 227 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 5: both teams, which is he's he's he's never seen like 228 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 5: this Patriots team, like this is going to be a different, 229 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 5: a different look than he's going to get. I think 230 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 5: the Patriots defense is understated as well too. 231 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 3: And I look at it. 232 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:36,840 Speaker 5: I go, then Donald turned the ball over a lot 233 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 5: this year. It's not outside the realm of possibility that 234 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 5: he has one of those games. Again, I don't think 235 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 5: you not in the super Bowl. I'll say this though, 236 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:49,440 Speaker 5: if there's one thing you're concerned with with Seattle, so 237 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 5: you're concerned with what it would be like. 238 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 3: You're you're you're if you're asking me like, oh, how 239 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:53,959 Speaker 3: do they not win this game? 240 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:55,680 Speaker 2: It's it's Donald. It's all in the play of Donald. 241 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:58,080 Speaker 2: If he plays out the NFC Championship game, they'll win. 242 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:01,560 Speaker 2: If he doesn't and he has one of those games 243 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 2: where he's turned the football over a couple of times, 244 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 2: it's gonna be a different story. 245 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 3: That's why I would this is what I would do. 246 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 2: Obviously, they're gonna try to run the football and establish that, 247 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:11,680 Speaker 2: but I think you've got to continue to keep getting 248 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 2: him out of the pocket, get him out in boots, 249 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 2: get him out and move the pocket like things that 250 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 2: just allow him to really do what he does well, 251 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:20,840 Speaker 2: which is kind of be more on the move on 252 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 2: the run, and he could still involve himself taking off 253 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 2: running a little bit too, but that really goes for 254 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 2: both quarterbacks. But I think, like he that's what helps 255 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:33,319 Speaker 2: him to me excel. I think if he tries to 256 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 2: play this entire game from the pocket, Vrabel wants to 257 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 2: take shots, He's gonna want to make him uncomfortable. 258 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 3: He's going to mix up looks and he's going to 259 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 3: force him throwing into pressure. 260 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 2: So I think that's how you help Sam darn in 261 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:48,080 Speaker 2: the passing game is move him around to throw the football, 262 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 2: don't keep him one. 263 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 3: Spot for May. May's just got to run the football. 264 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 2: He has to be part of the rushing, which is 265 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:57,080 Speaker 2: really interesting if. 266 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 3: You really think about the evolution. 267 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 2: Josh mc daniels is a play caller because he had 268 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 2: Tom Brady for so long and that was not something 269 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 2: that he was ever doing. I mean, they didn't really 270 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 2: like running boots with Tom. So it's a dramatic difference. 271 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 2: And what they'll do for Drake in the passing games, 272 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 2: it's always they call it displacement. They'll move their tight 273 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:21,080 Speaker 2: ends and running backs. 274 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 5: Spread them out, spread them out, and bring them back 275 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:25,599 Speaker 5: because they want to see what the coverage is. 276 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 2: Drake may will know every single snap, if it's manorzone, 277 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 2: what his matchups are, where he needs to go with 278 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 2: the football. It's just going to come down to execution. 279 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 2: If they can protect them, if they and even get 280 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 2: the ball where it needs to go, he'll be able 281 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:41,680 Speaker 2: to make some hay and you have some plays in 282 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 2: this game. I promise you that they. 283 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:49,959 Speaker 5: Vrabel was talking about this that McDaniels installed some new 284 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 5: stuff on offense this week and his thought process was, 285 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:55,680 Speaker 5: you know, I don't want them to see the same 286 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 5: thing the second and third time with the two week 287 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 5: I want to keep their minds fresh. And then he 288 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 5: pointed out and Vabele pointed this out. When you think 289 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 5: about it, it's wild. Josh McDaniels has coached in ten 290 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 5: Super Bowls. 291 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, so you talk like. 292 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 5: That's that level of experience that's unbelievable. And he was 293 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:16,839 Speaker 5: part of that entire run. So him saying, hey, this 294 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 5: is what we need to do. Just little stuff like that, 295 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 5: you wonder if that's gonna But it still. 296 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 4: Comes down to everybody has a game plan until that 297 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 4: bell is ringing and then you get punched in your mouth, 298 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 4: right then you got to figure out. And that's just 299 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 4: that's going to be this type of game. Yeah, it's 300 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 4: going to be a smash mouth type of Both groups 301 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 4: are both smash mouth groups. 302 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 2: Which it's interesting if you want to go the coaching history. Obviously, 303 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 2: Mike McDonald this is his first trip here. Klint koby 304 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 2: AC's man interviewing. He's going to take the Las Vegas Raiders' job. 305 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 2: You haven't had those with New England like that staff's 306 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 2: kind of been intact. They've got a bunch of experience 307 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 2: either playing or coaching them. Between McDaniels and Verbel, obviously, 308 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 2: I think you go back to to when when. 309 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 3: Seattle one that you know, you know, Pete had maybe. 310 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 2: Some experience, hadn't been there I think with New England 311 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 2: before when they lost. But on the other side it 312 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 2: was like John Fox, Peyton Manning, you know Fox who 313 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 2: had played, who had coached in a Super Bowl in Carolina. Right, Yeah, 314 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 2: if I'm not mistaken or is that not that group? 315 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 3: No, here's what Jake Alan. They got b by No, 316 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 3: and then you have that that Seattle group. They didn't care. 317 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 2: But like all those players, they're inexperience of being there 318 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 2: could have mattered. 319 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 3: It didn't matter to them at all. 320 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 2: And so that's that's always interesting me is we think 321 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 2: sometimes experience in those situations matter, and at the end 322 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 2: of the day, I don't know, like unless there's like 323 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 2: a dramatic change in something and an adjustment they make 324 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 2: second half or as the game goes on. 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All right? 357 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 3: So well come on o klondike bar. 358 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 7: All right, Well, in case you missed it, guys, because 359 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:45,439 Speaker 7: you know what, we did miss it because it was 360 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 7: here somewhere yesterday. 361 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 8: So I don't know if you guys heard. 362 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 9: But Ryan Leaf kind of verbally verbally accosted h a 363 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:57,439 Speaker 9: friend of the show, Doctor David Show here in this 364 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:03,400 Speaker 9: center at some point yesterday accosted allegedly or. 365 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 3: There's video of it. He was at his face. Oh no, 366 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:09,679 Speaker 3: he's getting on doctor David Chaw. I mean, but maybe they. 367 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 4: Were just having like a friendly like you know, I 368 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:13,879 Speaker 4: miss you, exchange you. 369 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:17,159 Speaker 2: So this has been a build up from what I 370 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 2: understand based on some of the things doctor chall said 371 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:23,959 Speaker 2: on Twitter or other social media platforms. He's been kind 372 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 2: of coming at him, and it stems back, obviously from 373 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 2: his time in San Diego where Doctor Chow was their 374 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:34,399 Speaker 2: team physician. So again I don't know more details to it. 375 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:38,160 Speaker 2: Hopefully they can bury the beef whatever's going on here. 376 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:40,679 Speaker 4: But buried the beef. It has been a we're in 377 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 4: the Tenderlowing District. There's been a lot of beef references 378 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:46,640 Speaker 4: on this this hour. 379 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 3: I guess that puts a new meaning to the term 380 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 3: fogo de chao. H. See what he did there, that's 381 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 3: an all time h. People caught what he just did. 382 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 5: You guys can borrow that and that to keep it 383 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 5: for you over there talking. 384 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 4: All I'm gonna say is, if people caught on what 385 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 4: you just did, if it's how I interpreted what what 386 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:19,639 Speaker 4: you just said, uh, that might have been the quickest, wittiest, 387 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:26,360 Speaker 4: most a holy spot comeback to anything we've ever done 388 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 4: ever the history of comebacks ever there was. 389 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 3: It was really good. Ryan Leaf a bit of a 390 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 3: hot head, a bit of a little fiery. That's not 391 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:39,639 Speaker 3: been my experience with Ryan. 392 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:42,439 Speaker 2: Ryan's always been a super good dude, calm, and I 393 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:44,920 Speaker 2: know he's overcome a lot, but it's not been my experience. 394 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:45,160 Speaker 3: Hat. 395 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:48,120 Speaker 10: I don't know who you got in that fight, Chow, 396 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 10: Ryan Lee, I got fog to child damn. 397 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and 398 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:58,920 Speaker 1: a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Arrington, and 399 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:03,879 Speaker 1: Jonas Knox week days at six am Eastern three am Pacific. 400 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 3: Here to feat your degenerate gambling soul the proper bet monsters. 401 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 1: For that. 402 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:28,120 Speaker 3: Three Patty sweet of our prop. 403 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:35,440 Speaker 5: Boys, who is here to drop five more on us? 404 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 3: Patty? What are we looking at for Super Bowl sixty today? 405 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 3: All right? 406 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:41,680 Speaker 7: So the first one here we got is actually kind 407 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 7: of something you alluded to earlier today. Will there be 408 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 7: a score on the first offensive play or snap in 409 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 7: the Super Bowl? 410 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 4: No, no, that's gonna be a nice payo by the way, 411 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 4: if you get it. You remember when Jacobe took the 412 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 4: opening kick, it was that the opening kickoffs? 413 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 5: Second sight Hester did the opening kick? 414 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:05,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, was that after the lights went out? And 415 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 2: that that was Baltimore San Francis. 416 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, Baltimore lights. Now, oh yeah, Sam was going win night. 417 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 5: You know, maybe I'm thinking Percy Harvin returned opening second 418 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:16,879 Speaker 5: half kickoff. 419 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 3: I think too, did he? That's right? I think he did. 420 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 3: That was an explosive player there, all right? 421 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:28,399 Speaker 5: So, uh so, no, no, no, no on the first 422 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 5: offensive play, So can't be can't be a special teams, 423 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 5: can't be a return. 424 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna say no, no, no. 425 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 8: No, and no. 426 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:38,719 Speaker 7: All right, Well we got number two here, So this 427 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 7: one's kind of fun. So Stefan Diggs has had five 428 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 7: plus thirty yard reception. 429 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:45,680 Speaker 3: I thought he was going to say kids. I thought 430 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 3: the prop bet was. 431 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 4: Which won't Will we get more of pregnancies or catches 432 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:52,680 Speaker 4: in the. 433 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:58,640 Speaker 3: Brought to you by two? The pink stuff that keeps 434 00:21:58,680 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 3: you going. 435 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 4: No, what will there be a siding? 436 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 3: Yeah? If he wouldn't have BP the two SI stock 437 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 3: is gonna go through that? Oh yeah? 438 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:21,679 Speaker 7: Where am Ivon has had five plus thirty yard receptions 439 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:22,160 Speaker 7: this year? 440 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 8: So will he record the longest reception of the game? 441 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:28,200 Speaker 7: Though for both teams? Between both teams? You know, no, 442 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 7: it's no and no, And. 443 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:36,160 Speaker 3: I'm going to go say yes, hold on, we don't 444 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:39,439 Speaker 3: go through research. Hold yeah, where is the paper? Take it? 445 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 3: Take it? Take a look your research first. 446 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 5: I mean, I just I don't like bragging like this, 447 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:46,439 Speaker 5: oh boy, because you know, next thing, you know, like 448 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 5: the s p J shows up? 449 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 3: You know what I mean? Oh, show prep Jesus. But 450 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 3: if you if you want me to. 451 00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:04,160 Speaker 5: Oh my, what does it say, I'm gonna say no, yeah, 452 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 5: based on my research here, I'm gonna say no. 453 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:09,639 Speaker 7: All right, So number three here, So this one is 454 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:11,680 Speaker 7: gonna be in the four of last five Super Bowls, 455 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 7: a running back is recorded like the longest rush between 456 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 7: any between them, and I'm confused. 457 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:19,920 Speaker 3: I don't know what, I don't know. This was a lot. 458 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 3: I couldn't slow it down. 459 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 8: In four of the last five Super Bowls. 460 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:29,440 Speaker 7: Okay, running back has recorded the longest rush between them, 461 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:33,120 Speaker 7: quarterbacks going on runs or even wide receivers. So that said, 462 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:37,199 Speaker 7: will Seahawks can Walker have the longest run distance in 463 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:37,920 Speaker 7: this Super Bowl? 464 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 3: I'm gonna i' mnna say yes. Yes. By the way, 465 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 3: I should have picked him for m VP. I think 466 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 3: he could go off. Yeah, he's a good player. That's 467 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 3: my guy. 468 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:50,720 Speaker 8: It's my guy. 469 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yea. I was hanging out last night. I'm 470 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:57,880 Speaker 3: gonna eating chicken. Po oh. That's a different guy. 471 00:23:57,920 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 8: I'm a Seahawks fan. 472 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:00,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, he calls him ken Walker, by the way, you 473 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 3: know that kind. 474 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 4: I just love how fans say my you know what 475 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 4: I mean? Like you ever notice. 476 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 5: That like my and if we're being fair here and 477 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 5: not one of them the original ken Walker? 478 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,879 Speaker 3: Yeah was Skywalker? Yeah, come on, man, give me some 479 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 3: of that what I'm talking about. 480 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 4: New York Mixed one Kennywalk contest was doing ballet in the. 481 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:21,680 Speaker 3: Air I was like, that's a deep pole. Yeah, that 482 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:24,680 Speaker 3: is a deep pole. I think it's going to be 483 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:32,359 Speaker 3: Travon Henderson. He's got he's got break. Wait a second, 484 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 3: you can't shut check change. I'm locked in. I'm locked down. 485 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,160 Speaker 3: I'm going like, god, dang it, that's a good keep 486 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:43,160 Speaker 3: it up. I'm going over there. You will be going alone. 487 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:49,119 Speaker 3: I cannot go on. I'm suddle. I couldnot. Brady, you 488 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:52,639 Speaker 3: pick those well, you can't ride a horse. Are you asking? 489 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:58,880 Speaker 7: You know there's a lot of voice between your things. 490 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,680 Speaker 3: I'm gonna I already gave my answer, so I'm gonna 491 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:07,119 Speaker 3: stick with it. Gold saddle bad just for golden ammo? 492 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 3: You know? Oh goodness? And one wanted. 493 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:14,400 Speaker 7: So we mentioned special teams earlier, saddle bags. We mentioned 494 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 7: special teams earlier. But will there be a kick off return. 495 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:25,879 Speaker 3: To the house? No, no, no, no, yeah, no, no, no, 496 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 3: no no. Who is the dangerous punt returner or the 497 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:31,159 Speaker 3: kick returner? Though that was he? There was one that 498 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 3: could do it. He Seattle. Oh oh he is the 499 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:37,879 Speaker 3: Seattle corner. 500 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:42,920 Speaker 10: Yeah, corn receiver to receive him from the same any 501 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:47,440 Speaker 10: any any punt or or he got just kick off return? 502 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 3: Oh, this is This is. 503 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:54,399 Speaker 5: Why we should have clarified at the beginning of the 504 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 5: If the payout is. 505 00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 3: Significant, then we should get double the points. I would. 506 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 3: I would. I'm gonna take he. I'm gonna take him. 507 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 3: He's going to take you. What do you take? Might 508 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:05,679 Speaker 3: get one? Because I want points. 509 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 8: He wants more points. 510 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, I want extra points. I'm gonna take a chance 511 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:12,640 Speaker 4: on that one, taking a chance. That kid is explosive. 512 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 8: Okay, they're gonna change your relocking in. 513 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:19,359 Speaker 3: I'm saying no, I'll say no, all right, Yeah, I 514 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 3: can't do it. 515 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 8: I can't do it. 516 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,240 Speaker 3: All right, we got we got that. You got that? 517 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 3: Oh boy? All right? 518 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:29,400 Speaker 7: So guys, big men need love to does an offensive 519 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:30,359 Speaker 7: lineman get a score? 520 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:31,920 Speaker 8: No touchdown now. 521 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:36,680 Speaker 4: But don't put it past Brapes and and and Daniel Daniels. 522 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 5: Rabel's got a couple dres you go yeah. 523 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:46,120 Speaker 3: No, no, and Jonas who would? 524 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 5: Okay, Patty, you're a Seahawks guy who would be the linement. 525 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 3: Of choice if they were to go this route. 526 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:54,679 Speaker 7: They were to go that route, I could see them 527 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 7: maybe flipping around like Gray Zabel into something or turning 528 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 7: maybe swing tackled Josh Jones into like a little gimmicky play. 529 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:07,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, Josh Jones, good athlete too could and this is 530 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,639 Speaker 3: touchdown or two point conversion a touchdown just to touch on. 531 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,879 Speaker 3: It's very possible. I hate to do. This is so 532 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:17,160 Speaker 3: very possible. Chop Jesus look, and I don't. I don't 533 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 3: like doing that. You guys know. 534 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 5: I don't like showing anybody up. It's like standing next 535 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:23,200 Speaker 5: to minout bowl to urinal. But here we go, some 536 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 5: of us prepping, some of us. Don't get that paper 537 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 5: off your head. 538 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 3: I'm gonna say no, no, ANSWER's gonna be no that. Yeah. 539 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:41,920 Speaker 3: So there we go. There's our another installment of our 540 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:45,920 Speaker 3: prop bets. Oh I've got an update. I've got an update. 541 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 11: Some like update music money, Mark, real quick, muddy Mark 542 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 11: you there. 543 00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:00,639 Speaker 3: You go, mar No, you did not do what? What 544 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:02,639 Speaker 3: I remember that news? 545 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:06,359 Speaker 10: What was the news show that broke? 546 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:10,040 Speaker 3: Wasn't that with broke off? No? That was bro cop 547 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:12,440 Speaker 3: was then news? What was that world news? 548 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:14,680 Speaker 5: Now? What was that guy's name, the guy with the 549 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 5: uh yeah, it looked like spock Mark. 550 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 3: Do you remember that guy's name? The guy who did Donaldson? Yeah, 551 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 3: that's real quick, real quick, built it back up. Mark 552 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 3: doing again? Thank you? Sir Albert Breer has sent a text. 553 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:41,480 Speaker 3: I'll be there, gonna run first. 554 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 2: So he's coming in sweaty, sweaty I called it. 555 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 5: You know what, that's an experienced traveler who gets it 556 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 5: in while he travels. 557 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 3: He knows you get to sweat it out the next day. 558 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 3: Good for him. 559 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,480 Speaker 5: Now will he have Will his face be ripped apart 560 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 5: by a hotel razor this year? 561 00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 3: No? But he will be what voice? So yeah, he'll 562 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 3: be more. Last year he showed it be look like 563 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 3: he fell asleep on a table. 564 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 10: Saw he was just destroyed, leaning everywhere it was. 565 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 5: It was just awful. What is wrong with They're calling 566 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:12,880 Speaker 5: the medics in and everything goes terrible. 567 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 3: Like a rat with Raybis. 568 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 4: Jumped out of life, like when I dried to scare 569 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:21,920 Speaker 4: y'all on this morning, Like he didn't get scared either, 570 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 4: and the rat gaddie, Yeah yeah. 571 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 572 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio 573 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to 574 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 1: listen live. 575 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:39,120 Speaker 12: I made it in the naked you guys, know, like 576 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 12: the like the outside of the perimeter of the Media Center. 577 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:44,000 Speaker 12: It keeps growing during the week, right, Like it's like 578 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 12: if you're on Monday, there's like really not a lot 579 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 12: and then it goes blocks out and blocks out, and 580 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 12: uh that created some issues this morning getting over here. 581 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 12: I give myself a five minute cushion as far as 582 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 12: how far I was going to go. 583 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:56,880 Speaker 3: And I needed that five minutes. Do you run for 584 00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 3: Tom or do you run for diste? I mean this morning, 585 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 3: this morning, I ran for Tom. How badly do you 586 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:02,720 Speaker 3: have radio format X right? What do you mean? 587 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 1: No? 588 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 5: I was just because I wanted to ask him the 589 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 5: first question. If you guys didn't mind, I wanted to 590 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 5: introduce him. Albert Brian, Senior NFL reporter, lead content strategist 591 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 5: at the m m QB. Get him on X at 592 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 5: Albert Breer Thursday tradition a tradition here at the Super Bowl. 593 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 3: Can I see the first question? Just you got it? 594 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 3: Have you ever wiped with a piece of dry toilet paper? 595 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 3: A hundred? Is this as good as it gets? 596 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,960 Speaker 5: It's not switched to life changing wet extra large flushable 597 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 5: Dude Wives because Amazon and a major retailers nationwide Dude 598 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 5: Wives best clean pants down. 599 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,480 Speaker 12: It's a that's freezing that I'm gonna walk away from 600 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 12: what this weight? 601 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 3: There you go. I mean you could take a few 602 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 3: man might need them impactly, but you made it. You're here. 603 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 3: Was the run? Great? Great? 604 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 12: I told Brady I was going to run. And this 605 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,640 Speaker 12: is philosophical for me. When I do things like this early, 606 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 12: I would rather the half hour of physical activity. It'll 607 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 12: make me feel better through the morning for sure, in 608 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 12: a half hours sleep. Yeah, that's my thoughts. 609 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 2: I'm with you on that, not me. Do you run 610 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:08,480 Speaker 2: for distance or time? Well, this morning, like I said 611 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:10,400 Speaker 2: the LeVar, I ran for time because I was late. 612 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 2: So I actually there are a couple of girls doing 613 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:15,480 Speaker 2: live shot over there and they saw me jogging through 614 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 2: and ye got some weird looks. 615 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 3: That's all right, you delivered. This is a poltician. 616 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 4: If they knew you were jogging to deliver the goods, 617 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 4: they would have been clapping for you. Actually, you know, 618 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 4: I just think it's all in context, right. 619 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 12: I actually also like I didn't I wouldn't have time 620 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 12: to do this after anyway, because I got to go 621 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 12: to Like I think we're in Santa Clair at at 622 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:39,720 Speaker 12: like seven am or something. 623 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 3: Wow, So yeah, it's a hike. Tra It's far. 624 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:46,960 Speaker 12: Yeah, like so uh, the West Coast super Bowl is 625 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,800 Speaker 12: complicated and they're like, it's like almost all of them now, 626 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:53,720 Speaker 12: you know, because we went Vegas, Phoenix, La here, back 627 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 12: to LA next year. It's I think it'll be in 628 00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 12: Vegas in two years, will be my guests. They haven't 629 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:00,960 Speaker 12: awarded it yet. But Atlanta, why is there such a 630 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 12: La LA because of the stadiums LA. 631 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 2: Hold on, but you you've got Miami. Atlanta did a 632 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,400 Speaker 2: great job with theirs. Why can't they go back to Atlanta? 633 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:15,000 Speaker 12: They are going to Atlanta? Okay, it's La Atlanta. 634 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,320 Speaker 3: Sorry. Three years would be big, yes, yeah? And then 635 00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:18,880 Speaker 3: what about Dallas? What about Houston? 636 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 12: What about Like the weird thing about Dallallas was I 637 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 12: don't get Like I talked to the Joneses about this. 638 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 12: I'm not sure they want it, which is interesting because 639 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 12: like one thing I heard from somebody there was they 640 00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 12: it's actually not that big a money maker for a 641 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 12: city Dallas. 642 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:36,680 Speaker 3: In Dallas, if you remember, it was a disaster. 643 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,560 Speaker 12: When it was there, right, and that wasn't really their fault. 644 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 12: Part of it was their fault, but they I mean 645 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:43,280 Speaker 12: the part of that was their fault was they were 646 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 12: trying to jam one hundred and ten thousand people in 647 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:46,239 Speaker 12: the stadium and break there. 648 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:47,880 Speaker 5: It's gonna be the only way Jerry gets a super 649 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:52,680 Speaker 5: Bowl though, No to that point. 650 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 3: Though, I think people would find this interesting. 651 00:32:55,360 --> 00:33:00,400 Speaker 2: I someone had wrote a report about what basically the 652 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 2: city gives up and they give up everything, Like there's 653 00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:08,960 Speaker 2: no taxes, there's they give them the hotels, they give 654 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:12,920 Speaker 2: like literally everything. I mean, So, so what is the 655 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,600 Speaker 2: advantage that just economic stimulus that I mean, that's it. 656 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 12: It's I mean for some of these cities, it's like 657 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:21,840 Speaker 12: showing I think that they're if you prove that you 658 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,320 Speaker 12: can host one of these it shows you can host 659 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 12: almost anything, you know. And so there's there's some of 660 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,960 Speaker 12: it like where it's like all right, like like for Atlanta, 661 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 12: for example, Lanta is not an obvious host city for X, 662 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 12: Y and Z either way, Miami or New Orleans or 663 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,240 Speaker 12: you know, LA would be. So for Atlanta, it's like 664 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,680 Speaker 12: if we show we're really good at this, then other 665 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 12: events will come here. Indianapolis like that was great value 666 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 12: for them because they knocked it. If you guys remember 667 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 12: that suit, it was knocked it out of the start. 668 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:52,280 Speaker 12: Really lucky with the like seventy degrees there all week. 669 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 12: But like outside of that, like Indie showed, we can 670 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:59,080 Speaker 12: manage this. And like I think everybody who went to 671 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:00,760 Speaker 12: that Super Bowl had a great experience. You can walk 672 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:02,120 Speaker 12: everywhere like it was easy. 673 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:05,480 Speaker 3: By the way, like the it's a huge right. 674 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:08,480 Speaker 5: Right, And I would say, like they're obviously combine every year. 675 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:10,839 Speaker 5: It's the convention capital of the country. Yeah, like it's 676 00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 5: it's that place is as easy as ever. I mean, 677 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:14,520 Speaker 5: I'm not advocating. I know it's in a you know, 678 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,799 Speaker 5: enclosed environment, but it's a cool weather place. But there's 679 00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:22,440 Speaker 5: other cities that you would think as soon as. 680 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:23,480 Speaker 2: No, especially as they build out these domes. Though, if 681 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:26,719 Speaker 2: Cleveland does what they're gonna do, are they get rewarded. 682 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:32,080 Speaker 12: That I I don't think so. Because the hotel room 683 00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:34,560 Speaker 12: situation might not be what you need to be. 684 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:35,840 Speaker 3: You should see ours. 685 00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:42,440 Speaker 12: I think that Jacksonville, you guys an interesting neighborhood, colorful neighborhood. 686 00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:45,279 Speaker 3: I'm just talking about the size of the room. 687 00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:48,560 Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, I have I have a couple, uh, I 688 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:52,120 Speaker 12: have a couple radio friends who are in the tenderline. 689 00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:56,760 Speaker 12: Yeah yeah, yeah, I saw a great T shirt yesterday 690 00:34:56,960 --> 00:35:01,480 Speaker 12: just said that Tenderland crosst vendor awaits and that's very true. 691 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,319 Speaker 3: All right. So Albert Brews with us here. 692 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:09,520 Speaker 5: You know the Patriots, the history, the organization, you know, 693 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,879 Speaker 5: from the area. What is it we were talking about 694 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:17,800 Speaker 5: this earlier. What's with the they're lucky and this is 695 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,879 Speaker 5: a Seattle super Bowl and they're fortunate just to be here. 696 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,000 Speaker 3: What is that about? Well? 697 00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:27,000 Speaker 12: I think like if you look at Seattle, their team 698 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,080 Speaker 12: is more built around high draft picks. 699 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:32,000 Speaker 3: You know, guys who are becoming brand names. 700 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,400 Speaker 12: You know, we all know Jackson Spit and Jigba and 701 00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,680 Speaker 12: Kenneth Walker and Byron Murphy was a high pick. Devin 702 00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:41,920 Speaker 12: weather'spilling the fifth fifth pick in the draft, and so 703 00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,520 Speaker 12: Leonard Williams was a high pick and has been great 704 00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:48,319 Speaker 12: for them. DeMarcus Lawrence was a star in Dallas, and 705 00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:52,000 Speaker 12: so there's just a ton of recognizable names. And they 706 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,840 Speaker 12: were built in a very conventional way. You know, the 707 00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:58,720 Speaker 12: Russell Wilson trade turned into a bounty of draft picks 708 00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:00,799 Speaker 12: and they nailed a lot of them, you know. So 709 00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,879 Speaker 12: I think if you look at Seattle, it's more Wow, 710 00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,360 Speaker 12: this team is really good. They've got a chance to 711 00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:09,239 Speaker 12: get better over the next couple of years if you 712 00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:11,720 Speaker 12: really look at it, you know from the thirty thousand 713 00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:14,400 Speaker 12: foot view versus New England where it kind of feels 714 00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:17,399 Speaker 12: like a microwave to contender, you know, like where they 715 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:20,279 Speaker 12: were four and thirteen, four and thirteen, and there are 716 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,919 Speaker 12: a ton of free agents that are playing prominent roles 717 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,160 Speaker 12: and a lot of guys that people haven't heard of 718 00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:28,239 Speaker 12: but have connections to Rabel and you know, I think 719 00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:31,680 Speaker 12: that sort of become New England's chip on their shoulder, 720 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:33,680 Speaker 12: which is like, we're no. 721 00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:34,600 Speaker 3: One, Cinderella. 722 00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,359 Speaker 12: Stop telling us that we're a bunch of You're taking 723 00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:41,480 Speaker 12: the points of right I I actually I hadn't thought 724 00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:45,200 Speaker 12: about the spread, but I think I am I for 725 00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:47,360 Speaker 12: the site. I think I picked it's a mic Verbel 726 00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:50,319 Speaker 12: moment to get Seahawks twenty three Patriots twenty which would 727 00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:53,879 Speaker 12: be cover. Yeah, at the end of the segment. 728 00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:57,200 Speaker 4: Well that's all right, it's not a spoilerler, But you 729 00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:01,479 Speaker 4: mentioned that this is the same type of story that 730 00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:05,480 Speaker 4: the Patriots went into for the first time they started there. 731 00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,120 Speaker 12: And here's the similarity that I think it's a bulevar 732 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:11,200 Speaker 12: if you look back at that team we thought about it. 733 00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:13,280 Speaker 12: I remember, like you know, when I was in college 734 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:16,719 Speaker 12: when that happened, and I remember thinking like this, yeah, 735 00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:17,359 Speaker 12: this is one. 736 00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:18,560 Speaker 3: Of the that was one. 737 00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:20,480 Speaker 12: So I was my senior year in college O one, 738 00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:21,960 Speaker 12: O two, this fat school. 739 00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:25,200 Speaker 3: Year and uh that was my second year in the league. 740 00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:31,839 Speaker 10: Yeah, I'll bet you guys, house I. 741 00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:33,440 Speaker 12: Remember a lot of things about that game and then 742 00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:35,120 Speaker 12: the very at the end of that night. I might 743 00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:39,759 Speaker 12: not remember for I, uh, but yeah, like I think 744 00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:41,600 Speaker 12: that old One team if you look back at it, right, 745 00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:42,680 Speaker 12: like I remember. 746 00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:52,400 Speaker 2: That the middle school probably high school year, yeah yeah, sophomore, 747 00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:54,359 Speaker 2: junior okay, so were you Classico three? 748 00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:54,759 Speaker 3: Yeah? 749 00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:56,240 Speaker 12: Okay, and then that will be near junior. 750 00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,240 Speaker 3: Great year, great great year in the Quinn household. 751 00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:01,960 Speaker 12: Now, So like I think we looked at that on 752 00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:05,880 Speaker 12: One team as like this is a bunch of ragtag 753 00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:08,480 Speaker 12: pre aid whate blah blah blah blah, free agent all 754 00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:10,640 Speaker 12: these guys that like it doesn't even make sense that 755 00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:14,480 Speaker 12: they won the whole thing. Well, the sixth round quarterback 756 00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:17,920 Speaker 12: was Tom Brady. They had Mike Brabile and Teddy Willy, 757 00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:21,399 Speaker 12: Willie McGinnis, Tyler Lawyer Boy, Troy Ball. 758 00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:23,640 Speaker 3: I mean that was Hall of Fame I mean, so you. 759 00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:26,400 Speaker 12: Look at all of these names and it's like Richard 760 00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:28,360 Speaker 12: Seymour was a rookie on that team. Matt Light was 761 00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:32,160 Speaker 12: the rookie left tackle on that team. So you David 762 00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:34,480 Speaker 12: who he was the center. Like, so you had all 763 00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:38,080 Speaker 12: these guys that like we didn't know yet but wound 764 00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:41,160 Speaker 12: up being the core of a team that would win 765 00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:43,960 Speaker 12: two more Super Bowls after that. So I think if 766 00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:47,080 Speaker 12: there is a similarity that might wind up being it 767 00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:49,520 Speaker 12: where it's like we look at back at this team 768 00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:51,239 Speaker 12: in three or four years and maybe it's a little 769 00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:52,040 Speaker 12: better than we thought. 770 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,120 Speaker 3: I want to go more to the business of the NFL. 771 00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:59,560 Speaker 5: We saw some talk about the nfl PA being staunched 772 00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:01,480 Speaker 5: in the player stopped against an eighteenth game. 773 00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:03,480 Speaker 3: We know that's them just kind. 774 00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:06,360 Speaker 2: Of you know, position themselves for a negotiation because obviously 775 00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:06,960 Speaker 2: the owners won it. 776 00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:08,480 Speaker 3: And if the owners wont it, it's going to happen. 777 00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:11,000 Speaker 3: How long until we get to an eighteenth game? 778 00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:13,040 Speaker 5: And then what do you think the players can get 779 00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:15,560 Speaker 5: back in return for that. 780 00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:19,680 Speaker 12: Eighteenth So I think what's interesting is two years from now, 781 00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:21,719 Speaker 12: I said, the Super Bowls is in Atlanta, right, they have 782 00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:23,799 Speaker 12: not set a date for it yet, and. 783 00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:25,840 Speaker 3: Because they all know when to say it, and that 784 00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:27,040 Speaker 3: I'd be a little later. 785 00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:29,200 Speaker 12: If you look at the if you look, you see 786 00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:32,600 Speaker 12: they have whatever next weekend. Next year, I think the 787 00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:34,560 Speaker 12: super Bowl is on Valentine's Day, which is the latest 788 00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:36,439 Speaker 12: ever been. It's actually going to be a guinea pig 789 00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:40,880 Speaker 12: for them, right for because that's the one year where 790 00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:41,719 Speaker 12: the second. 791 00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:44,320 Speaker 2: You don't want to piss off too hard. Hall Mark's 792 00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:45,640 Speaker 2: gonna be so bad at you. 793 00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:47,200 Speaker 12: Think about this though, Like they get the guinea pig 794 00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:50,840 Speaker 12: next year, right because February fourteenth is a second Sunday, 795 00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:53,279 Speaker 12: which is always a super Bowl in February, right, and 796 00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:55,799 Speaker 12: then President's Day is always the third Monday, so it 797 00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:57,319 Speaker 12: happens to be that next year is the one year 798 00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:59,720 Speaker 12: where it's naturally just going to fall on President's. 799 00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:01,120 Speaker 3: Day weekend at the extra dayoff. 800 00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:04,399 Speaker 12: So and then the year after there's no date set 801 00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:06,920 Speaker 12: for the Atlanta super Bowl, And I can just tell 802 00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:10,480 Speaker 12: you talking to the Atlanta people, it's frustrating the hell 803 00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:12,880 Speaker 12: out of them, right because they have to block off 804 00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:16,200 Speaker 12: the entire month because you have to set an extra 805 00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:18,680 Speaker 12: week for each date, right, So now they've got to 806 00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:22,200 Speaker 12: block off the entire month, hotel space, convention space, all 807 00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:25,200 Speaker 12: this stuff has been put on hold in Atlanta. We're 808 00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:28,879 Speaker 12: only two years out now, where like it's it's an 809 00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:32,120 Speaker 12: issue for them, And most people I've talked to think 810 00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:34,239 Speaker 12: that was because they have that year ear mark is 811 00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:36,040 Speaker 12: the one that they would try to go to eighteen games. 812 00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:38,560 Speaker 12: Now they've The problem is the NFLPA doesn't have an 813 00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:41,600 Speaker 12: executive director now, so how do you negotiate that the 814 00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:44,120 Speaker 12: David White who talked the other day as the acting 815 00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:47,560 Speaker 12: and executive director, can you really negotiate that big a 816 00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:50,600 Speaker 12: thing without having an act I mean. 817 00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:53,160 Speaker 2: From the from the owner's standpoint, like it's a great time, 818 00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:54,720 Speaker 2: right yeah, right, But I don't think players. 819 00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:55,480 Speaker 3: I would think the union. 820 00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:57,960 Speaker 12: I would think until the union actually put someone in place, 821 00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:00,160 Speaker 12: it'd be on hold. Here's what I would ask for 822 00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:02,160 Speaker 12: if I were the players, and I don't know if 823 00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:04,440 Speaker 12: they will because the older players are usually in control 824 00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:07,399 Speaker 12: of the union. But get players at free agency after 825 00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:10,600 Speaker 12: three years, because if we're talking about eighteen games versus 826 00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:13,799 Speaker 12: sixteen games, right, which is what it was only five 827 00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:17,239 Speaker 12: years ago, say that's eight more games that you have 828 00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:17,719 Speaker 12: to go through. 829 00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:18,840 Speaker 3: That's a half a season. 830 00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:20,400 Speaker 12: That's eight more games that you have to go to 831 00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:22,560 Speaker 12: sort of get to free agency before we're even talking 832 00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:24,680 Speaker 12: about playoffs. You've also got the extra playoff games, so 833 00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:27,439 Speaker 12: there are two more teams than there were back then 834 00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:32,080 Speaker 12: playing a playoff game. So, like, you know, I think 835 00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:33,840 Speaker 12: you got to do some things to make it easier 836 00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:37,160 Speaker 12: for these guys to get to the money. And what 837 00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:39,360 Speaker 12: it winds up doing is if you're getting more guys 838 00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:42,600 Speaker 12: at a younger age to free agency, it's going to 839 00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:44,759 Speaker 12: push the market because you're gonna get everyone else. It 840 00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:48,000 Speaker 12: pushes everyone else up. And so maybe it includes some 841 00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:51,000 Speaker 12: sort of changes to the franchise tag. But like if 842 00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:52,600 Speaker 12: I were the players, I'd be like, okay, Like I'm 843 00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:53,960 Speaker 12: going to listen to this, but you got to do 844 00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:56,160 Speaker 12: those sorts of things. What they can't get caught up 845 00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:58,200 Speaker 12: in and where the players have always with the owners 846 00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:00,520 Speaker 12: have always taken advantage of them is we'll give you 847 00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:01,640 Speaker 12: off season time. 848 00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:03,560 Speaker 3: We'll help you out here, will help you out there. 849 00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:05,320 Speaker 12: You know what, you don't have to come to OTAs, 850 00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:06,319 Speaker 12: you don't have to do this, you don't have. 851 00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:08,719 Speaker 3: To do that. Do you know what the player? 852 00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:10,919 Speaker 12: You know what the owners like deep down think when 853 00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:13,480 Speaker 12: the players ask for more time off, you mean I 854 00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:14,960 Speaker 12: get to shut the lights off for another. 855 00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:16,160 Speaker 3: Few weeks save expenses. 856 00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:18,320 Speaker 12: Yeah, you mean you're gonna pay for your own training. 857 00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:20,040 Speaker 12: I mean I don't have to feed you. I mean 858 00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:24,000 Speaker 12: I don't have to. It's so like they I think 859 00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:26,319 Speaker 12: that the the union has to make this hurt for 860 00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:27,960 Speaker 12: the players a little bit, you know what I mean? 861 00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:29,000 Speaker 3: Or the. 862 00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:32,880 Speaker 12: Yeah, so I think it's like that part of it 863 00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:35,960 Speaker 12: is how do they do that? And I think finding 864 00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:39,040 Speaker 12: a way to get more guys paid and get more 865 00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:41,400 Speaker 12: guys to the pot of goal. That's the end of 866 00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:45,160 Speaker 12: the rainbow for every pro athlete that you know, you 867 00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:46,960 Speaker 12: have to find ways to do that because if they're 868 00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:49,600 Speaker 12: going to be taking on more damage and guys continue 869 00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:52,040 Speaker 12: to get bigger and faster, And I think you can 870 00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:55,879 Speaker 12: see the difference in seventeen from sixty sixteen games. These 871 00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:57,560 Speaker 12: guys are more beat up than they work. Like, I 872 00:42:57,560 --> 00:42:59,440 Speaker 12: think these teams come in more beat up. In fact, 873 00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:02,440 Speaker 12: I think it's a huge fact the Patriots and Seahawks 874 00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:05,279 Speaker 12: are generally healthy. I mean, if you get like what 875 00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:08,360 Speaker 12: huge injuries, if those teams had that, like really. 876 00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:11,520 Speaker 3: They had a kid go off the Seattle, Seattle. 877 00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:15,560 Speaker 5: Do you have but that was but they even worry 878 00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:17,840 Speaker 5: if you're understand, Yeah, that was interesting. 879 00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:20,359 Speaker 12: I'll be interested to see what. 880 00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:24,560 Speaker 3: Is Okay, so you don't know Patriot games? Is that 881 00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:27,799 Speaker 3: what we call it? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I like that. 882 00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:31,320 Speaker 5: I like that by doing it though, you know that 883 00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:33,080 Speaker 5: they're playing games. 884 00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:34,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah. 885 00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:37,200 Speaker 5: And I'm a little confused when you mentioned this earlier, 886 00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:40,400 Speaker 5: you said the nfl P doesn't have an executive director 887 00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:40,919 Speaker 5: right now? 888 00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:44,960 Speaker 3: Why not? What happened? What happened to Lloyd? He was 889 00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:49,920 Speaker 3: throwing the one making it right? It might might it 890 00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:51,359 Speaker 3: might have been the game. 891 00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:57,080 Speaker 4: Can we stay really, I'm gonna stay on the ownership 892 00:43:57,120 --> 00:44:00,319 Speaker 4: for for quick and obviously the just what on some 893 00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:01,920 Speaker 4: people thinking, you know, I got to do it? And 894 00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:04,960 Speaker 4: since we're doing all these conspiracy theories and patriot games 895 00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:10,400 Speaker 4: and man cheering? Uh Tish, mister Tish, Yeah, Steve Tish, 896 00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:12,880 Speaker 4: what's the what's the latest on that? What do you 897 00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:15,120 Speaker 4: think the next? I mean, is it as simple as 898 00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:19,560 Speaker 4: his statement is? Is being taken that face value? What 899 00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:20,839 Speaker 4: was this investigation? 900 00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:23,120 Speaker 3: Look like? How do you see this playing? But we 901 00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:24,880 Speaker 3: talked but they were all adult women. 902 00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:28,680 Speaker 12: Yes, oh yeah, okay, it's still like, I mean, we're 903 00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:31,680 Speaker 12: still we're still waiting into the world's oldest industry, right, 904 00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:35,719 Speaker 12: so where we're going, right, it's like a different I mean, 905 00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:39,440 Speaker 12: I think like the NFL, the way that they handle 906 00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:41,320 Speaker 12: these things and have handled these things over the years 907 00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:46,759 Speaker 12: is they've sort of let the public relations fall out 908 00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:49,439 Speaker 12: happen and then assessed the damage after. And we've seen 909 00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:51,919 Speaker 12: that happen over and over again. And I just feel 910 00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:54,080 Speaker 12: like listening to Roger, if you want to be cynical 911 00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:55,759 Speaker 12: about it, the other day, it just seems like he's 912 00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:59,200 Speaker 12: kind of like, let's see how this all plays out, 913 00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:01,279 Speaker 12: and let's see if this is a problem for us, 914 00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:05,120 Speaker 12: because here's the thing, all right, you guys know how 915 00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:07,240 Speaker 12: long it took them to not to get Dan Snyder 916 00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:10,759 Speaker 12: out of there, right, And the reason why is because 917 00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:12,680 Speaker 12: all those guys that like, I'm not saying everybody has 918 00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:15,240 Speaker 12: skeletons like this in their closet, but everybody has skeletons 919 00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:18,800 Speaker 12: in their closet. And I don't think the owners want 920 00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:22,560 Speaker 12: the precedent of taking someone's team away, you know, like, 921 00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:27,319 Speaker 12: because once that happens, now, every time something happens with 922 00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:32,319 Speaker 12: one of the owners, that is immoral or whatever on 923 00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:34,600 Speaker 12: the top and blood and then you don't. They don't 924 00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:37,400 Speaker 12: want that precedent. So and you got to remember, this 925 00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:40,040 Speaker 12: isn't like the commission when he's standing up there talking 926 00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:43,560 Speaker 12: about a coach or a player. These are his bosses, 927 00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:46,719 Speaker 12: you know. So and I thought it was interesting because 928 00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:52,000 Speaker 12: usually Roger is pretty pretty controlling and and and and 929 00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:55,920 Speaker 12: has really good feel for what he can say and 930 00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:58,080 Speaker 12: what he can say can't say. Like at the press 931 00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:02,040 Speaker 12: conference the other day, somebody asked him about the personal 932 00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:06,319 Speaker 12: conduct pro policy and his answer was, I don't think 933 00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:08,439 Speaker 12: we're there yet when he was talking about Tish right. 934 00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:11,480 Speaker 12: And then I asked him a few minutes later, I said, 935 00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:16,319 Speaker 12: do you think this reflects poorly on the league? And 936 00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:19,880 Speaker 12: he said, well, sure, but that's what the personal conduct 937 00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:23,839 Speaker 12: policy is for. So he at one point said, we're 938 00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:26,160 Speaker 12: not there yet in the personal conducts policy. And now 939 00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:28,200 Speaker 12: he's saying no, this is sort of the lane that 940 00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:31,320 Speaker 12: it'll fall into. I've just seen this too many times, 941 00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:35,239 Speaker 12: where like we can talk, he can stand up there 942 00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:36,920 Speaker 12: and say as much as he wants, like the owners 943 00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:39,720 Speaker 12: are holding held the highest standard, higher standard than players, 944 00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:43,080 Speaker 12: higher standard than coaches. It's just not true, right, And 945 00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:45,880 Speaker 12: it's going to take more for an owner to be 946 00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:48,839 Speaker 12: sanctioned in a way that's really going to hurt him, 947 00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:51,160 Speaker 12: and for a guy to have his team taken away. 948 00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:53,000 Speaker 12: I don't think that that's anything any of the owners 949 00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:54,719 Speaker 12: want because of the president says. 950 00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:58,080 Speaker 2: How much longer does Roger Goodell have? And then is 951 00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:00,920 Speaker 2: there someone who's in line to succeed him? I mean, 952 00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:02,799 Speaker 2: I think that's part of the problem, Like is that 953 00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:05,319 Speaker 2: there I don't know? I think that guy with Brian 954 00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:08,600 Speaker 2: Rolap who left, and you know, I think when roll 955 00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:11,960 Speaker 2: Up left who you know, people don't know him. 956 00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:13,960 Speaker 3: He basically ran media for the NFL. 957 00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:17,440 Speaker 12: He was it wasn't officially second in command, but I 958 00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:19,280 Speaker 12: think most people viewed him as the second command. 959 00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:22,080 Speaker 3: He loved Troy Benson. He left to go run the PGA. 960 00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:24,680 Speaker 3: I think that I am involved in that, like all 961 00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:25,080 Speaker 3: these guys. 962 00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:26,719 Speaker 12: I think all these guys are starting to age out. 963 00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:29,120 Speaker 12: Though LeVar come back, though, I mean he could, he 964 00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:32,319 Speaker 12: could come back, but he's in his mid fifties now. 965 00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:35,960 Speaker 12: And traditionally they have like, all right, like we're bringing 966 00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:38,120 Speaker 12: somebody in who we want to have in here for 967 00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:40,520 Speaker 12: twenty years. So they have the investment in the league, 968 00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:43,560 Speaker 12: and so, like I know for a roll up like 969 00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:47,680 Speaker 12: that was part of the equation was I'm whatever, he is, 970 00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:51,640 Speaker 12: fifty five, fifty six years old, Roger is definitely going 971 00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:52,399 Speaker 12: to do a new deal. 972 00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:53,120 Speaker 3: That was the feeling. 973 00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:56,000 Speaker 12: At least if Roger's here for another five or ten 974 00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:58,360 Speaker 12: years now, I'm going to be my sixties. They're not 975 00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:00,959 Speaker 12: going to put somebody in their sixties and office. 976 00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:01,239 Speaker 3: You know what I mean. 977 00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:05,799 Speaker 12: Like and so I think that's something that a lot 978 00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:08,120 Speaker 12: of owners have been asking questions on because they have 979 00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:10,840 Speaker 12: lost guy Chris Halpin was another one who you know 980 00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:13,920 Speaker 12: who left the league probably five years ago, who had 981 00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:14,839 Speaker 12: been airmarked. 982 00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:16,200 Speaker 3: And you know. 983 00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:19,680 Speaker 12: There are still names there, you know, Peter O'Reilly is 984 00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:23,080 Speaker 12: somebody who runs the international business and so. 985 00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:27,439 Speaker 3: We got a little Patty Sweeker, good Irish lab. 986 00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:31,759 Speaker 12: So so there, I mean, they're they're they're There's not 987 00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:34,600 Speaker 12: somebody lined up the way Roger was in like O 988 00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:36,680 Speaker 12: two oh three oh four, where a lot of people 989 00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:41,359 Speaker 12: knew and I don't think Roger, to be honest with you, 990 00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:43,960 Speaker 12: like I did a lot of reporting on this. I 991 00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:46,560 Speaker 12: did a story on him four or five months ago 992 00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:49,200 Speaker 12: on the good and the bad of Roger as the 993 00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:52,680 Speaker 12: commissioner and and uh like some people feel like that's 994 00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:55,360 Speaker 12: intentional that he doesn't that he hasn't groomed a success or, 995 00:48:55,960 --> 00:49:00,080 Speaker 12: has no interest in you, he has no interest and 996 00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:05,000 Speaker 12: leaving anytime soon for him. And the feeling would be 997 00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:08,760 Speaker 12: like if some owners feel like there's a new voice, 998 00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:12,319 Speaker 12: then if he hasn't groomed a successor, well then who 999 00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:14,359 Speaker 12: because it's such a complicated. 1000 00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:16,840 Speaker 3: And he's also wiped the floor with the union for 1001 00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:17,279 Speaker 3: he has. 1002 00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:18,799 Speaker 12: Done a good job. Yeah, I mean, like that's the 1003 00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:20,800 Speaker 12: other thing is like, look at the health of the 1004 00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:23,799 Speaker 12: broadcast deals and where the broadcast deals are probably going next. 1005 00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:27,359 Speaker 3: It's going to be astronomical, you know. Obviously, like you said, like. 1006 00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:32,160 Speaker 12: His ability to command the labor situation, he's done that, 1007 00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:34,839 Speaker 12: you know. So I think, you know, the owners look 1008 00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:38,000 Speaker 12: at it and see a guy who isn't perfect but 1009 00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:40,239 Speaker 12: has done a really good job for them, wants to 1010 00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:43,480 Speaker 12: stay in the role. And I don't think Roger has 1011 00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:46,759 Speaker 12: anytime lee has any interest in leaving anytime soon. He'll 1012 00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:49,520 Speaker 12: I'm sure, do a new contract and then the question 1013 00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:51,680 Speaker 12: will be whether that's his last contract. The same way 1014 00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:54,520 Speaker 12: it was the last time he did. He did for 1015 00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:55,759 Speaker 12: his loss, but at the beginning of his. 1016 00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:58,640 Speaker 5: Loss, speaking of Alberbreer with us here finishing up with 1017 00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:02,440 Speaker 5: ab here from Radio Row at Fox Sports Radio two 1018 00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:04,920 Speaker 5: Pros and a cup of Joe. Robert Kraft not in 1019 00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:08,239 Speaker 5: the Hall of Fame again? Yeah, all right, so what gives? Like, 1020 00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:11,120 Speaker 5: what do we He's in a Super Bowl again? Seems 1021 00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:11,879 Speaker 5: in another super Bowl. 1022 00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:15,399 Speaker 12: I actually thought the Belichick one was more egregious. But I, 1023 00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:19,719 Speaker 12: you know, Robert should be into you know, I think 1024 00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:22,879 Speaker 12: it's the process and not to you know, it take 1025 00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:23,799 Speaker 12: a while to. 1026 00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:24,480 Speaker 3: Go through the whole thing. 1027 00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:25,719 Speaker 12: But really the way you want to look at this 1028 00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:28,279 Speaker 12: is you have the modern era candidates is what we 1029 00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:30,200 Speaker 12: that's what we all think of is like the normal 1030 00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:32,440 Speaker 12: category going in and what the way we've set it 1031 00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:36,799 Speaker 12: up now is that there's this like category where you 1032 00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:40,360 Speaker 12: have three seniors candidates, a contributor, and a coach, and 1033 00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:41,840 Speaker 12: so you're voting on five guys. 1034 00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:43,480 Speaker 3: The voters are voting on five guys. 1035 00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:48,279 Speaker 12: The three seniors candidates are by definition last chance guys. Right, 1036 00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:52,160 Speaker 12: So that's Elsie Greenwood, That's that's Kenny Anderson, and that's 1037 00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:55,200 Speaker 12: Roger Craig. So those three guys are the last chance guys. 1038 00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:56,880 Speaker 12: Then you have a coaching contributor who are basically like 1039 00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:57,960 Speaker 12: the modern era candidates. 1040 00:50:57,960 --> 00:50:59,640 Speaker 3: You can kind of keep voting on them. 1041 00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:02,640 Speaker 12: So isn't that flawed if you're looking at these guys like, 1042 00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:04,520 Speaker 12: look at these three guys in this context and these 1043 00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:06,360 Speaker 12: two guys in that context. And then you have like 1044 00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:09,200 Speaker 12: some older voters who believe that there's this backlog of 1045 00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:10,919 Speaker 12: players that they have to get in while they're still 1046 00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:13,960 Speaker 12: in the committee. So it's like those guys are saying, no, 1047 00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:16,239 Speaker 12: well I can't and you already have the thing where 1048 00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:19,080 Speaker 12: And I agree with this like players before, coaches, coaches 1049 00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:22,719 Speaker 12: before GMS and the owners right like, so I look 1050 00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:25,279 Speaker 12: at it like and I think the saying is like 1051 00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:27,440 Speaker 12: the closer you are to the ball, the closer you 1052 00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:30,000 Speaker 12: are to the all right, Like it's just if you 1053 00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:34,839 Speaker 12: if I'm looking at it, and I say, like, man, 1054 00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:36,759 Speaker 12: Roger Craig, and I think there's a great case for 1055 00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:38,680 Speaker 12: Roger Craig. I think Roger Craig will get in, right, 1056 00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:42,040 Speaker 12: like he sort of should. He changed the running back position, right, 1057 00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:44,560 Speaker 12: So he was the foe runner for Thurman Thomas, who 1058 00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:46,160 Speaker 12: was the fore runner for Marshall Fowk, who's the four 1059 00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:49,840 Speaker 12: runner absolutely now right, And so I think there's a 1060 00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:52,160 Speaker 12: great case for Roger Craig if you had to vote 1061 00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:54,520 Speaker 12: for one guy and you look at and say, well, 1062 00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:57,880 Speaker 12: I might not get another chance to vote Roger Craig in, 1063 00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:02,480 Speaker 12: and Belichick's going to get in evench really so. 1064 00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:04,799 Speaker 3: So still bad and I think it's bad. It's so bad, 1065 00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:05,920 Speaker 3: and that's the way. 1066 00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:08,400 Speaker 4: But the problem, the problem, the problem is to a 1067 00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:12,360 Speaker 4: moment like that, the same Yeah. 1068 00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:14,520 Speaker 5: They're in the same category and then and having to 1069 00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:17,040 Speaker 5: like basically chalk it up to someone who maybe their 1070 00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:19,160 Speaker 5: last chance that oh you happen to be there when 1071 00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:21,040 Speaker 5: the year of Bill Belichick was eligible. 1072 00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:24,520 Speaker 4: But how do you justify a four time Super Bowl champ, 1073 00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:29,680 Speaker 4: a two time first team All Pro, tons of Pro 1074 00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:34,120 Speaker 4: Bowls like L. C. Greenwood is a victim. It's same 1075 00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:37,560 Speaker 4: as Roger Craig of a team full of Hall of famers. 1076 00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:41,160 Speaker 4: That's said, that's a said commentary. Why is there a cap? 1077 00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:44,000 Speaker 4: Why doesn't it come down to voting percentage per player? 1078 00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:45,400 Speaker 4: Like why don't they look at it doing it a 1079 00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:47,040 Speaker 4: little bit different? So instead of saying we have a 1080 00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:48,759 Speaker 4: set mat we're putting in every year, there might be yours. 1081 00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:51,680 Speaker 12: The way it works with that category is a little 1082 00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:55,399 Speaker 12: different in that, like, so you can only vote for three, right, right, 1083 00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:57,000 Speaker 12: That's what I'm saying, and then it's and then it's 1084 00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:59,560 Speaker 12: eighty percent, and so that if you do the math 1085 00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:02,239 Speaker 12: of that, like it's actually so, let's say I thought 1086 00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:04,360 Speaker 12: Belichick was going to sweep. So I'm stunned. I like 1087 00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:06,359 Speaker 12: I had talked to voters, I really respect. I thought 1088 00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:08,040 Speaker 12: it was fifty for fifty. I thought there was no 1089 00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:08,839 Speaker 12: way anybody, Well. 1090 00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:11,360 Speaker 3: Bill Point doesn't know how you voted for Yeah, I 1091 00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:12,880 Speaker 3: thought I thought no one could check that. 1092 00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:16,080 Speaker 12: I thought I didn't think anybody could sit there and 1093 00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:18,480 Speaker 12: not check that box. That was my opinion. How could 1094 00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:19,799 Speaker 12: you sit there with that in front of you and 1095 00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:20,799 Speaker 12: not how could you not know? 1096 00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:21,239 Speaker 3: Right? 1097 00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:23,680 Speaker 2: Like, of all the candidates, could you really the one 1098 00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:24,759 Speaker 2: that was your nemesis? 1099 00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:26,000 Speaker 3: I check that one? 1100 00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:26,560 Speaker 7: Did you? 1101 00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:27,640 Speaker 3: Did you not? I don't know? 1102 00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:30,600 Speaker 12: But but if you actually do the math of it, right, So, 1103 00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:33,160 Speaker 12: let's say Belichick went fifty for fifty. Now you're talking 1104 00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:34,920 Speaker 12: about you have one hundred and fifty total votes, three 1105 00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:37,440 Speaker 12: best yes votes for all fifty voters. Now you have 1106 00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:39,759 Speaker 12: four guys trying to get to forty votes with only 1107 00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:42,720 Speaker 12: one hundred available. That's hard and so the math becomes 1108 00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:45,560 Speaker 12: really difficult. And I actually think it should be hard 1109 00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:48,200 Speaker 12: to get in. Yeah, but I don't think you should 1110 00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:50,640 Speaker 12: be voting on gaming, somebody in. I think you should 1111 00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:53,279 Speaker 12: be voting on here's a list of five. If there 1112 00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:55,960 Speaker 12: are four yeses, I take the four most obvious yeses, 1113 00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:58,879 Speaker 12: not like, oh well this guy can I can put 1114 00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:00,600 Speaker 12: this guy in anytime, So I just gonna put the 1115 00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:01,080 Speaker 12: fourth guy in. 1116 00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:05,480 Speaker 5: Albert always fun man. Thank you for making the jog 1117 00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:06,000 Speaker 5: over here. 1118 00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:09,120 Speaker 12: It's a year that show or Yeah, I think I 1119 00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:11,239 Speaker 12: have to because it was only like a tenths of 1120 00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:12,400 Speaker 12: a Well, yeah, and you gotta leave it. 1121 00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:14,399 Speaker 3: What time I we have a I think the bus 1122 00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:15,200 Speaker 3: has started at six. 1123 00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:16,959 Speaker 12: I'm not going to make it back here by six, 1124 00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:19,160 Speaker 12: but the buses are right over there. 1125 00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:23,040 Speaker 3: At my hotels. It could get a real spicy. I 1126 00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:28,120 Speaker 3: know that this is better for you than New Orleans, Brady. 1127 00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:31,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I felt like the last time we were 1128 00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:34,080 Speaker 2: here the city was in a better spot than now. 1129 00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:34,799 Speaker 3: Now. 1130 00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:36,880 Speaker 5: We ventured out more yesterday, and I take some of 1131 00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:38,520 Speaker 5: that back because like getting. 1132 00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:39,480 Speaker 3: In, you need to know where to go in this 1133 00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:42,000 Speaker 3: and it's a beautiful I'd love to see That's what 1134 00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:42,319 Speaker 3: I'm saying. 1135 00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:43,839 Speaker 2: I was like, it's it's It was kind of sad 1136 00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:45,440 Speaker 2: to see some of what's still going on.