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Speaker 1: Get in touch with technology with tex Stuff from dot Com.

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Speaker 1: Hey there, and welcome to tech Stuff. I'm Jonathan Strickland

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Speaker 1: and today I've got a special treat I am joined

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Speaker 1: by Ashley A. Skepta. Please tell me I didn't butcher

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Speaker 1: your name? Yea. Ashley is my buddy from c NET

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Speaker 1: and she and I are survivors of the Great War

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Speaker 1: known as c E S two thousand fifteen. We can

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Speaker 1: be beaten down, but never defeated. No, never, never. Uh So, Ashley,

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Speaker 1: I've asked you on the show so that we can

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Speaker 1: kind of talk about some of the stuff that was

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Speaker 1: unveiled at c E some of the big themes that

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Speaker 1: happened during the show. And this is gonna be a

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Speaker 1: real discovery for me personally because I was confined to

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Speaker 1: a very small, relatively speak section of the show and

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Speaker 1: didn't get out nearly as much as I wanted to.

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Speaker 1: So I was in the same boat. So I got

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Speaker 1: to see via all of my colleagues out reporting what

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Speaker 1: they were looking at. That's kind of how I was

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Speaker 1: to except for me, it wasn't colleagues. It was peers

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Speaker 1: because no one else from how stuff works was there.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, but it was it was still you know,

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Speaker 1: one of those events where every single year that goes

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Speaker 1: by you can identify some big trends that happened at CES.

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Speaker 1: So for a few years ago, like example, a few

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Speaker 1: years ago, it was three D, right, that was the

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Speaker 1: big thing, and unfortunately that has gone away. Yes, people

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Speaker 1: have finally given up on pushing three D. I think.

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Speaker 1: I think listening to the consumers say I don't want

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Speaker 1: that for two or three years, finally got the message

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Speaker 1: through just such a hassle. I mean, it's it really

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Speaker 1: blows my mind that anybody ever thought that was going

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Speaker 1: to be a really lucrative business model, because I can't

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Speaker 1: think of a single person who's like, Okay, I want

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Speaker 1: to buy this three D TV, and I also want

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Speaker 1: them because you have a family of four. Like, there

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Speaker 1: is not a universe in which people enjoy that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, the only use case I really could see

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Speaker 1: disposable income and they want they wanted to have the

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Speaker 1: ultimate gaming you know, console set up to console. Even

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Speaker 1: then it's like buy a monitor. Yeah, you know, Steam,

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Speaker 1: get your get your video card. I'm the same way,

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Speaker 1: I think the same way. It's to me, it was

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Speaker 1: one of those things where the benefit was not enough

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Speaker 1: to outweigh the hassle that I have a hard time

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Speaker 1: just finding my remote control. Yeah, unless these glasses laying

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Speaker 1: around and you know, like the four K televisions are

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Speaker 1: so nice that they are. The picture quality is so nice.

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Speaker 1: It almost gives a feeling of three D because you

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Speaker 1: honestly look like you could just reach right in and

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Speaker 1: grab whatever's on the screen. That's true. That's so many

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Speaker 1: people have described it as being three D like I mean,

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Speaker 1: I even even Wally Fister, the cinematographer I got to

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Speaker 1: talk to. He said, when you get to this level

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Speaker 1: of clarity that's essentially three D, you get the illusion

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Speaker 1: of depth. I mean, nothing is coming out at you,

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Speaker 1: but everything looks like it has real presence, like you

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Speaker 1: glass between you and the hobbit or whatever. Right, It's

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Speaker 1: it's just like in Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory,

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Speaker 1: and then they reached down ground is it's like it

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Speaker 1: Mike TV of course following along and we can have

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Speaker 1: a whole discussion justin Willy Wonka, and I'm somewhat tempted

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Speaker 1: to because CS is exhausting. But but four KTVs, that's

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Speaker 1: definitely one of the big themes that went through this year.

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Speaker 1: Every major television producer was putting their four K sets

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Speaker 1: on display, and all of them, of course claiming that

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Speaker 1: their sets are more better than everyone else's. It's in

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Speaker 1: four K and my four K, so you can four

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Speaker 1: K while you four K. That's right, that's right. I

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Speaker 1: mean I was there and uh and one of the

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Speaker 1: that is quantum dots, yep, using the quantum dot approaching,

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Speaker 1: by the end of two thousand sixteen. Yeah, And the

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Speaker 1: So when you get to a point where the manufacturing

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Speaker 1: it means that we can all create that crazy home

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Speaker 1: which is super nice. I mean, just there have been

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Speaker 1: so many great advances in how we consume content over

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Speaker 1: the last even you know, five years. I always it

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Speaker 1: blows my mind that the iPad is just five years

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Speaker 1: old in February. That's always the thing that kind of

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Speaker 1: pulse of technology. Well, you know, sometimes we have to

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Speaker 1: fail to move forward. That's true. And also, to be fair,

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Speaker 1: no tablet in the history of tablets had ever now

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Speaker 1: any kind of mainstream acceptance. Um. And then of course,

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Speaker 1: device also gave rise to another big trend at CS wearables.

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Speaker 1: Oh man, there were so many they had wearables for dogs.

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Speaker 1: They did. I could not believe it's I mean, we

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Speaker 1: But but this is that's definitely the realm where we're

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Speaker 1: not make it over to tech West. So, for for

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Speaker 1: anybody listening, C E S has just continued to grow exponentially.

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Speaker 1: Usually I'm not on those lists. I'm not sure how

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Speaker 1: a here's a smartphone case for a brand that you

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Speaker 1: don't own. Well, thanks fantastic. But getting back to the wearable,

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Speaker 1: haptic feedback fork. Oh yeah, the happy fork. Yeah, there's

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Speaker 1: you want to, if you think that will bring people

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00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:45,440
Speaker 1: into your booth, like whatever, But what are you gonna

431
00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,440
Speaker 1: do when none of them can talk intelligently about your product?

432
00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:50,480
Speaker 1: Like then they just leave. So so they get their

433
00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:52,960
Speaker 1: picture and they leave, and it's just it's kind of that.

434
00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:57,080
Speaker 1: It's kind of that fast food sort of feeling of

435
00:23:57,680 --> 00:23:59,520
Speaker 1: content like out of booth, that you go to a

436
00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:01,760
Speaker 1: booth and they might draw you in with something, but

437
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,160
Speaker 1: if somebody can't actually talk to you about a product,

438
00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 1: you know, you're gonna leave. You're gonna get you're gonna

439
00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:07,639
Speaker 1: a quick picture of whatever it is that you were

440
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:10,480
Speaker 1: looking at whether it's a person or some gimmick, uh,

441
00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:13,879
Speaker 1: you know whatever, and then you're gonna split because nobody

442
00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:16,560
Speaker 1: there can actually tell you about anything. So I'm really

443
00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:19,600
Speaker 1: glad to see that they're really going out of their way.

444
00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:22,560
Speaker 1: Like at l g UM, everybody was so knowledgeable and

445
00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,359
Speaker 1: well trained, and they knew exactly where to direct you

446
00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:28,080
Speaker 1: if you weren't sure about something or if you had questions.

447
00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:30,480
Speaker 1: I mean, they were very good. Like I was, I

448
00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:32,840
Speaker 1: was very impressed with lg I mean, all the big ones,

449
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:36,240
Speaker 1: Sony Samps Song, I mean, they're all very very good. Yeah,

450
00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:38,560
Speaker 1: and Tells Booth was really great. I mean all of

451
00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:42,119
Speaker 1: the major players had a lot of super knowledgeable people

452
00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:45,720
Speaker 1: who were friendly and also just really had an enthusiasm

453
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:48,399
Speaker 1: for the product that they were discussing or whatever they

454
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:51,040
Speaker 1: were assigned to talk about. So that was great. It

455
00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:53,240
Speaker 1: was really nice to see that. Yeah, that's nice. I

456
00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:55,960
Speaker 1: mean it sounds it may sound to my listeners here

457
00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:59,880
Speaker 1: that we're crowing about something really simple, But here's the thing,

458
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,000
Speaker 1: it's not always like that. At c E S. There

459
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 1: are times where you go there and the person who

460
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:09,840
Speaker 1: you're talking to clearly doesn't know they might know like

461
00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:12,840
Speaker 1: a tiny laundry list of features that the product has,

462
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:15,920
Speaker 1: but they can't really answer any deeper questions or or

463
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,639
Speaker 1: they'll still get a little list. They'll hire people who

464
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:20,400
Speaker 1: are who do that for a living. I mean it's

465
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:23,720
Speaker 1: in booth guys or girls, and then they don't really

466
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:26,199
Speaker 1: train them deeply on product. They just say here are

467
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,160
Speaker 1: the main bullet points hit and and here's a real

468
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:31,200
Speaker 1: quick overview of how the product works. Well. The problem

469
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 1: with that is is some people really take that to heart,

470
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:36,400
Speaker 1: and you get you can always get some really good

471
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:38,680
Speaker 1: people who have been hired in and who have been

472
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,040
Speaker 1: just trained for you know, half a day on a product,

473
00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:43,639
Speaker 1: who are really into it and they're excited about it.

474
00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:45,919
Speaker 1: But then you also can get the people who are not,

475
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:48,239
Speaker 1: who are just you know, there for a paycheck and

476
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:51,240
Speaker 1: they say, well, oh and here's the phone or here's

477
00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:53,400
Speaker 1: the TV or the washer and dryer or whatever it is.

478
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,160
Speaker 1: They're like, yeah, it's really nice, and that's it. That's

479
00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:58,719
Speaker 1: all you get because they didn't bother paying attention during training,

480
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:05,359
Speaker 1: right right. Uh. Another big kind of theme that was

481
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 1: running through this is one that I am really excited about,

482
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:13,880
Speaker 1: while also I get a little uh nauseated by it's

483
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:18,840
Speaker 1: it's virtual reality. I love virtual reality. I love it

484
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 1: in concept. In practice, there are times where I definitely

485
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 1: get a little loopy and uh feel a little weird.

486
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,520
Speaker 1: I think that my main disconnect is if I play

487
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:33,159
Speaker 1: anything that has a first person perspective and it has

488
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 1: a very convincing immersive world, and I turned my head

489
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 1: and everything is fine, that's cool. The problem I get

490
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:41,720
Speaker 1: is as soon as I start to move, if I

491
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:45,560
Speaker 1: have to use a controller to move, then the disconnect

492
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,960
Speaker 1: from using the controller versus my head looking around as

493
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:52,920
Speaker 1: if I'm standing up because my body is staying still,

494
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 1: but the input I'm getting through my eyes and my

495
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,879
Speaker 1: ears is that I'm moving. That's what my stomach says. Okay, listen,

496
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:04,400
Speaker 1: I gotta take a quick break here, Yeah, and we'll

497
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 1: recons Yeah, there was you know, there was a lot

498
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 1: of virtual reality at the show this year. So not

499
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 1: only was Oculus there with a huge booth, I might add, yeah,

500
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 1: I guess getting bought by Facebook gave him a little

501
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:19,760
Speaker 1: bit of spending money, well, spending cash. Yeah. They had

502
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 1: a huge booth full of great demos, fantastic demos, with

503
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:27,920
Speaker 1: the newest version of the Rift the Rift headset. So

504
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:32,119
Speaker 1: the it's Chris, It's not. Let's see Chriscent Bay. Is

505
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:35,879
Speaker 1: that the newest one, Christopher Cove Crescent Bay. Um, So,

506
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 1: Crescent Bay is the one with the headset to three

507
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:42,160
Speaker 1: you know, three D sound as well as the actual

508
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 1: virtual reality headset. And it was so good, so fantastic.

509
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:49,920
Speaker 1: And then Razor came out with os VR, so open

510
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 1: source virtual reality, including a headset and also just software

511
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:55,439
Speaker 1: so you don't have to use the headset with the

512
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 1: software vice versa. You could use one or the other

513
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:01,640
Speaker 1: or both. That was fantastic. A lot of open sourcing

514
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 1: has been happening recently, which makes me very happy. And

515
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 1: then um, and then we saw, you know, we we

516
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 1: know that Sony's working on Project Morpheus. Wasn't at CS,

517
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:14,960
Speaker 1: but it exists. And then Samsung's got their Milk VR,

518
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 1: which is sort of a separate service, and then they

519
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 1: have the Gear VR, which is the headset that you

520
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 1: can use with a Note three or a Note a

521
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:25,920
Speaker 1: Note Edge, the Galaxy Note Edge. Yeah, they also had

522
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:29,200
Speaker 1: that on display at the Oculus booth. If you weren't

523
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,679
Speaker 1: if you weren't willing to wait in the very long

524
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 1: line to try out the rift. You can just wait

525
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 1: in the very short line to try out the Samsun one,

526
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,760
Speaker 1: which is what I did because I was on a schedule.

527
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 1: But yeah, seeing that this is finally becoming something that's

528
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 1: actually within the realm of the consumer reach is really exciting.

529
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 1: I mean, I I remember the era when the term

530
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 1: virtual reality was first bandied about in the late eighties

531
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 1: early nineties, and I remember the backlash that the industry

532
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 1: suffered when it didn't quite measure up to our expectations. Um,

533
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 1: when are when we when we thought we'd be plunged

534
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 1: into a digital world and it turned out we would

535
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 1: be shooting a polydectyl uh monster. Yeah. I remember those

536
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 1: at like the county fair. Yeah, where you'd go and

537
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 1: you'd pay like five dollars or ten bucks and then

538
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:26,480
Speaker 1: you got five minutes inside this VR sort of. It

539
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 1: was like a little platform that had corners and then

540
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 1: you put on the headset. Was very weird and very terrible. Yeah,

541
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 1: the headset was suspended by cables because it was too

542
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 1: heavy to just put on. Yeah. Now we used to

543
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 1: have one of those that are our local mall and

544
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 1: uh and yeah, you would pay for a five minute

545
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 1: experience and if you were to pay for more than

546
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 1: five minutes, you were either a glutton for punishment or

547
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 1: you had an iron stomach. Because and also everybody in

548
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 1: the line hated you because it was everybody. There was

549
00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 1: always a huge line, right because because it was new thing. Well,

550
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 1: now that new thing is finally getting to a point

551
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 1: where we can actually see a time when we'll have

552
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 1: it in our own homes. And uh, you know, obviously

553
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 1: there are a lot of people out there who have

554
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 1: the developer kits, who have been playing around with it

555
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 1: for a while. I didn't do that because my philosophy

556
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 1: is that developer kits are primarily for developers, and I

557
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 1: should wait, um, because I want to have the experience

558
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 1: that's going to be most suited for consumers as possible.

559
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 1: I say that I'm also the owner of a pair

560
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:33,959
Speaker 1: of Google glass so apparently I can't always hold myself

561
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 1: to that, but um, but yeah, it was great seeing

562
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff on display and seeing it's so

563
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 1: close to being a mainstream product. Um. One of the favorite,

564
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:47,719
Speaker 1: one of my favorite things that I encountered. I didn't

565
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 1: get to visit them when they had it all set up,

566
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:54,719
Speaker 1: but I actually ran into the team that was behind it.

567
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 1: While I was on the plane going to c S

568
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 1: was a company, a little group called Serenetti and Serenetti

569
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 1: had created a cooking robot. I told you about this

570
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 1: when we met up at SO. The idea behind this

571
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 1: is that you've got a robot that cad, stir and

572
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 1: cook food. Uh. It's it's got a robotic arm that

573
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 1: can actually rotate and stir the food properly, specifically meant

574
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 1: for lots of different types of stuff like uh like

575
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 1: foe or pad tie, that kind of thing. And all

576
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 1: you do is you put the ingredients in the robot,

577
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 1: and the robot adds the ingredients at the right time.

578
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 1: It continues to look after the food as it's cooking.

579
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 1: Does it all automated, so it cooks your whole meal

580
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:42,240
Speaker 1: for you. And what I thought was brilliant about this

581
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 1: approach was that as I was talking to the creators,

582
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 1: they were mentioning that their business plan wasn't to just

583
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 1: sell the robot. That if that were all it was,

584
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 1: then that would be a real challenge. Their business plan

585
00:31:55,840 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 1: is to set up a subscription based service where you

586
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 1: subscribe to get meals that the robot can cook, so

587
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 1: you get the ingredients, You load the ingredients into the robot.

588
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 1: The robot cooks your meal, and what you're paying for

589
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 1: really is the subscription to the food service. And these

590
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 1: are high school students, genius. What are we doing? What

591
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 1: are we doing with our lives? I don't know, Ashley,

592
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 1: They're gonna be millionaires. Like it's like a robot. It's great.

593
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 1: I could add two of those kids together and they

594
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 1: still wouldn't be as old as I am. And they're

595
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 1: gonna be millionaires. I feel so deeply unsuccessful when I

596
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 1: hear that these stories. I'm just like, well, uh, it

597
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:43,239
Speaker 1: was a good try, right, had a good run, had

598
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 1: a good run. I'm just gonna give up. Yep, you

599
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 1: need me, I'll be in the bar if you need

600
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 1: my robot makes my dinner. I'll be doing that. My

601
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 1: my bartender is drinking next to me because he's out

602
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 1: of a job now is making us both drinks and

603
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,959
Speaker 1: making us dinner. Yeah. There were some other things that

604
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 1: were on display at CES that got some buzz. Uh.

605
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 1: There was a computer from HP, the HP stream Mini,

606
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 1: this tiny, little hundred eighty dollar computer that just has

607
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 1: basic outputs that looks like it's gonna be you know,

608
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 1: a super desktop killer for a lot of consumers who

609
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 1: just want to have you know, your basic PC operations.

610
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 1: They don't necessarily want to have it as you know,

611
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 1: this will be like their home computer that lives at

612
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 1: home as opposed to a laptop. I really like the

613
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 1: design of it. I didn't get a chance to play

614
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 1: with it at all, but I thought that was interesting.

615
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 1: I thought the fact that Parent has an in dash

616
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 1: system it. Yeah. You know, this is a company that

617
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 1: I almost always associate with their their drones and their robots,

618
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 1: but they do have an entirely separate branch that develops

619
00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:00,200
Speaker 1: technology like this. So yeah, this is an in dash

620
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 1: uh operating So they called it an infotainment system. Yeah,

621
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 1: and it includes like you know, the various apps, the

622
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 1: phone app and music apps, things like that dash cam control. Uh. Yeah,

623
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:18,400
Speaker 1: it's really cool. I'm curious how distracting it is to

624
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 1: a driver who's wanting to operate such a thing, but

625
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:22,719
Speaker 1: that is pretty neat. They did say it would be

626
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:28,439
Speaker 1: compatible with both car Play and Android Auto, so you'll

627
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:31,280
Speaker 1: be able to interact regardless of whether you have iOS

628
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:34,279
Speaker 1: or Android. Uh, You'll be able to interact with it

629
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:37,239
Speaker 1: by voice, so sirie, you'll be able to give Siri

630
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 1: commands or um Android Audibilla talked to Google now, which

631
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 1: I think is great, And honestly, I don't know. I

632
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:48,360
Speaker 1: don't know why any automaker or even third party um

633
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 1: third party company would make any in Dash anything that

634
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 1: is not cross platform compatible. Right, Don't don't take that

635
00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:00,719
Speaker 1: proprietary approach where you're trying to lock people into an ecosystem,

636
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 1: because that's just a recipe for failure. Well, cars are

637
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 1: such a long term commitment for most people that it

638
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 1: doesn't make any sense to do it that way, because

639
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 1: what if you switch from iOS to Android, or what

640
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,400
Speaker 1: if you know, you upgrade next year and your Android

641
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 1: phone isn't supported by that in Dash system, Like, it

642
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 1: doesn't anything that, It's just it's a it's a much

643
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,720
Speaker 1: better idea. I was just talking about this to somebody

644
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 1: who is very excited about cross platform because of that.

645
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:32,280
Speaker 1: He likes to switch back and forth between iOS and Android,

646
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:37,400
Speaker 1: so which I would find incredibly nerve wracking and anxiety inducing,

647
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 1: but um, he loves it, and so for him, he's like,

648
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 1: this is great because I don't have to feel like

649
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:46,279
Speaker 1: I'm locked into a certain type of phone while I

650
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 1: own this this car, right, Yeah, this is the same

651
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 1: argument I make for all the smart appliances that only

652
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,880
Speaker 1: we'll talk to other smart appliances from that same company.

653
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 1: It's I mean, I totally get it, totally understand why

654
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:07,400
Speaker 1: manufacturers do this, but it's not a great experience for

655
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 1: consumers because it means that we are locked into one

656
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:15,359
Speaker 1: manufacturer's form of appliances, even if we really like one,

657
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 1: but we would prefer a different manufacturer for something else,

658
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:21,400
Speaker 1: Like oh, I love the dishwasher from this company, but

659
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 1: I really like the washer and dryer from this other company.

660
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,239
Speaker 1: But I want all my stuff to talk to each other.

661
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 1: It's really challenging. We've got a lot of companies that

662
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:33,279
Speaker 1: are trying to come out with um platforms that can

663
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 1: allow for some cross communication that it requires a lot

664
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:40,279
Speaker 1: of jerry rigging really to make sure that things that

665
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 1: are designed to speak with one language can talk to

666
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:45,920
Speaker 1: something that's designed to speak with a different language. That

667
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 1: being said, the smart home was another huge trend at

668
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:54,439
Speaker 1: CES this year, probably the biggest I've ever seen it. Yeah, yeah,

669
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:56,839
Speaker 1: every year, I mean, smart home just gets crazy. Whole

670
00:36:56,880 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 1: automation is Oh boy, it's gonna be ups in the

671
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:03,400
Speaker 1: next maybe five years or so, because it's going to

672
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 1: be kind of an arms race between all these companies,

673
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 1: as you were just saying, to like not necessarily lock

674
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 1: you into an ecosystem, but to make products that you're

675
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 1: gonna want to buy over anything else, Right, Yeah, And

676
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 1: I mean we've seen this really changed dramatically over the years.

677
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 1: It wasn't that long ago when you could you could

678
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:25,240
Speaker 1: do home automation, but it meant spending a huge amount

679
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:29,320
Speaker 1: of money getting contractors in there. There were very specific

680
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:31,919
Speaker 1: companies that were in the business, and they were not

681
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 1: necessarily named brands that the average consumer would be aware

682
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:38,799
Speaker 1: of because it was a very very niche market. And

683
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:42,359
Speaker 1: now you've got big companies that are offering up all

684
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 1: sorts of components. Some of them are offering up entire systems,

685
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 1: so it will affect multiple things in your house, like

686
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 1: your locks and your lights, your windows, uh, you know,

687
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 1: climate control, all that kind of stuff. There are other

688
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,840
Speaker 1: ones that are you know, their focuses on a specific

689
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:03,360
Speaker 1: piece of that that, but they can work within a

690
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:08,799
Speaker 1: larger network. It's an exciting time because now again the

691
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:11,279
Speaker 1: average consumer can actually look into it and if you're

692
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:15,759
Speaker 1: only interested in automating your locks, you could totally do that. Like,

693
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:18,759
Speaker 1: you don't have to go and invest in a ten

694
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 1: thousand dollar renovation of your home to get it automated.

695
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:25,440
Speaker 1: Now you can get these bits and pieces. Um, I

696
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:30,919
Speaker 1: have Internet controllable lights, so I could turn my lights

697
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:35,440
Speaker 1: on anywhere in the world. It's amazing. Uh, but that

698
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:37,880
Speaker 1: was one of those things that I got from C. E. S.

699
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:41,760
Speaker 1: H two years ago, and that was an early implementation

700
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:43,400
Speaker 1: of it. Now we're starting to see things like the

701
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 1: Hugh lights, which give you way more options than what

702
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:50,399
Speaker 1: I had. Um. But it's exciting because now we've got

703
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 1: like we're the Internet of Things has become something more

704
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 1: than just a buzzword. We're actually starting to see some

705
00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 1: examples of that. What I'm really excited to see is

706
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 1: after that five years of craziness that you're talking about,

707
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 1: seeing the software side reaching a point where our houses

708
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:11,920
Speaker 1: are no longer waiting for us to send a command

709
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 1: to them in order for them to do something like

710
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 1: dem the lights or adjust the climate control. Our houses

711
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 1: will be anticipating what our needs are before we're even

712
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:24,359
Speaker 1: aware of it, and adjusting themselves for us so that

713
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 1: we can live in Star Trek. Yeah. Yeah, and well

714
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 1: we've already seen a little bit of that with like Nest.

715
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 1: So it's it learns your patterns. It kind of knows,

716
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:35,799
Speaker 1: you know, when you come home and when you need

717
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 1: you know, when you get up, and there's like, I know,

718
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:41,839
Speaker 1: there's a lot of inner connectivity with Android home um

719
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 1: and also home Kit, which is iOS uh. They like

720
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 1: one of the examples they have given was, okay, so

721
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:50,360
Speaker 1: you have your you know, your wearable and when you

722
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 1: wake up, it realizes you wake up, and then it

723
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 1: sends a message to your thermostat to like turn up

724
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 1: the heat, and so I think that will kind of

725
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:02,440
Speaker 1: be It's sort like I'm really I hate the phrase,

726
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 1: but Internet of Things like it definitely is that. Um

727
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 1: That's what I always think of when I think of

728
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 1: Internet of Things. It's just all these different devices and

729
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 1: gadgets and installations working together to sort of make your

730
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 1: life more comfortable without you even needing to tell it

731
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 1: to do so, which is always my favorite part of technology.

732
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 1: I mean, if if I could have anything in the world,

733
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:25,399
Speaker 1: it would be you know, my question is when will

734
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 1: we live the Jetsons? And so this kind of stuff

735
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 1: always is very reminiscent for me of the Jetsons and

736
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 1: oh Man, like finally, someday I'm gonna be able to

737
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 1: get on a conveyor belt and it's gonna dress me

738
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 1: and brush my teeth, wash my hair and style it

739
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:39,440
Speaker 1: for me, and then Rosie the Robot's gonna have my

740
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:42,880
Speaker 1: breakfast ready to go. I want to live in that world.

741
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:46,280
Speaker 1: Although the the styling of the hair sounds particularly painful

742
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:49,399
Speaker 1: in my case, I don't think that would work so well.

743
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:52,840
Speaker 1: But they just put a beautiful sheen. It just wax

744
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 1: it a little bit, just to send you out in

745
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 1: the world, little polish to the dome, just like when

746
00:40:58,040 --> 00:40:59,400
Speaker 1: you brush your teeth and you get that little like

747
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 1: being in the commercials. I'll just I'll just you know,

748
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:07,360
Speaker 1: it's me and Mr Clean all the way. Uh, that's

749
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 1: that's I want to live in that world. I want

750
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:12,720
Speaker 1: to get to that point. I think we're we're definitely

751
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:17,359
Speaker 1: gonna see a lot more examples of competing standards. It's

752
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 1: gonna be a messy, messy uh five years, Like, it's

753
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:25,719
Speaker 1: not gonna be it's not gonna be smooth sailing the

754
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 1: whole time. I think it's gonna be worthwhile once we

755
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:31,439
Speaker 1: get to the other side of that. But it does

756
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 1: mean that we're going to have some time to really,

757
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:37,279
Speaker 1: you know, slog through some some unpleasantness I think in

758
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:40,760
Speaker 1: the in the short term. So, Ashley, was there anything

759
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:43,320
Speaker 1: at c e S that you saw? You know, I haven't.

760
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 1: I've only brought up some broad categories. But was there

761
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:49,720
Speaker 1: anything you saw that really you just thought, now that's

762
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 1: either crazy or that's awesome or crazy awesome or anything

763
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 1: like that. One thing in particular, well two, Okay, so

764
00:41:57,520 --> 00:41:59,720
Speaker 1: there are two things in particular that I really liked,

765
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 1: which was the first one was at Panasonic. They have

766
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 1: this beauty bar like mirror. It was I keep calling

767
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:09,320
Speaker 1: it the magic mirror. They have this mirror where you

768
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 1: would sit down and it would scan your face and

769
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 1: tell you, oh, you look dehydrated or these you know,

770
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 1: you have bags in your eyes. You need to like

771
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 1: supplement your diet with these things to like help your

772
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:24,360
Speaker 1: skin be better. And then you are able to actually

773
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:27,279
Speaker 1: do in real time because you would see this like

774
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 1: sort of smaller reflection of yourself in the mirror. You're

775
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 1: able to see uh, makeup and facial hair, and it

776
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 1: was it just very well done. The facial tracking was unbelievable.

777
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:43,319
Speaker 1: I really wish I had seen that. I also would

778
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:45,839
Speaker 1: love if I were designing that, I would definitely go

779
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 1: with like the stereotypical uh overbearing mother. I do Santa

780
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:57,359
Speaker 1: with glad ass where she just insults you at every turn.

781
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 1: Be effective. Um. So there was that and I love that,

782
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 1: and that was great. We have a couple of videos

783
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 1: about that on c net. And then there was the

784
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:12,399
Speaker 1: other thing I really enjoyed, which definitely was it had

785
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 1: no purpose other than having people see it and go

786
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:20,400
Speaker 1: oh like, which is the flexible television? Did you see this?

787
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:23,279
Speaker 1: That was not what I thought you were going to say? Yes,

788
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:26,280
Speaker 1: there was this l G, and I think a couple

789
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 1: one or two other boots had flexible twos, but LG

790
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:30,799
Speaker 1: in particular was the one that I saw. They had

791
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 1: a TV that would flex from flat to curved. There

792
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 1: was a four K TV. It was stunning. It was

793
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 1: just so weird and cool and you just looked at

794
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 1: it and everybody. I had to do tours at CS,

795
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:49,759
Speaker 1: so I was taking through these groups of tours and

796
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 1: that was the thing where everybody just went oh like wow.

797
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 1: It was that moment. Yeah, whenever I've led a tour

798
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:01,880
Speaker 1: myself in the past, and you whenever you have to

799
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:03,760
Speaker 1: do this sort of thing, whenever you get the chance

800
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:06,880
Speaker 1: to lead people on a tour, there does become this

801
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 1: moment of I have got to find the one breath

802
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:13,960
Speaker 1: taking thing on this floor so that that if all

803
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:16,440
Speaker 1: else fails, they'll be that moment. And if I can

804
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 1: end as close as I can to that, everyone will

805
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 1: think it's the most amazing tour ever. Exactly, I'm giving

806
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 1: away our secrets here now. The thing I thought you

807
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 1: were gonna say, so I was totally wrong. But what

808
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:31,360
Speaker 1: I thought you were going to say was the Intel

809
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:34,799
Speaker 1: spider dress. See, I loved that too. It had no

810
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:38,879
Speaker 1: purpose beyond just looking really cool. Yeah. So for those

811
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:41,360
Speaker 1: who don't know, first of all, I can't believe you

812
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:43,400
Speaker 1: didn't see any news on this because it was one

813
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:45,359
Speaker 1: of those things that was so eye catching. It did

814
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:47,880
Speaker 1: exactly what it was supposed to do, which is it

815
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 1: drew attention and it got people talking about it. But

816
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:53,800
Speaker 1: it was a three D printed dress, as I recall,

817
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 1: is like an outfit that had actuators that had these

818
00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 1: little spider arms at the shoulders. They look like spider

819
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 1: appendages that can extend outward and look all scary. Is

820
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:07,920
Speaker 1: literally looked like a loot drop from World of Warcraft.

821
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 1: It looked like you know Tier three, uh, Tier three

822
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:17,280
Speaker 1: shadow priests shoulders. It was that was that was exactly

823
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:19,239
Speaker 1: what it looked like. It was so cool as all

824
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 1: white and then they had these glowing kind of nodules

825
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:25,440
Speaker 1: in there, and then they had proximity sensors in the

826
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:28,319
Speaker 1: chest area, so as soon as somebody would get close,

827
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:31,880
Speaker 1: these actuators would like lash out and keep people at bay,

828
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:34,359
Speaker 1: and then and then as soon as people backed away

829
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:37,360
Speaker 1: would the actuators would relax and kind of retract in

830
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 1: and calm down. And uh man, it was just so cool.

831
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 1: It was more of a like a bodice with a

832
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:45,400
Speaker 1: with a silver skirt um, but the bodice and the

833
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 1: shoulders were all three D printed and it was run

834
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:50,800
Speaker 1: off the intel Edison chip and it was so so

835
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 1: cool to see in person. Yeah, it looked to me

836
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 1: like hr Geiger and the Parisian fashion consultant had had

837
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:01,720
Speaker 1: had drinks and thought, hey, wouldn't this be cool? Uh?

838
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:07,239
Speaker 1: It was really really arresting. Um kind of design. You

839
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:08,920
Speaker 1: definitely need to go check it out if you have

840
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:12,800
Speaker 1: not seen it, Just do a search for Intel Spider dress.

841
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:16,279
Speaker 1: It will pop right up. Uh. It was really and

842
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 1: of course the models that they had wearing it, they

843
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 1: had their hair swept up in a very dramatic up

844
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 1: due that that made it look very sci fi sci

845
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 1: fi and I fully fully approved of it because I thought, well, this,

846
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 1: this feels like I'm in a deleted scene of Dune

847
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 1: or something. It was fantastic. I loved it. It was

848
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 1: so cool to see. So for those people who have

849
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:43,279
Speaker 1: not been to C E S, So how many times

850
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:46,279
Speaker 1: have you gone? Ashley? This is my fifth year. Okay,

851
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:50,919
Speaker 1: it was my eighth year. Uh so can you put

852
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:54,399
Speaker 1: into words what it feels like on that last day

853
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:58,719
Speaker 1: when you've just finished your last um, last appointment or

854
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:01,919
Speaker 1: last uh you know, the last thing that you had

855
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:04,440
Speaker 1: to do before you are done with C E S.

856
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 1: It's it's like it's like going on a Vegas bender,

857
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Speaker 1: except instead of alcohol, instead of getting wasted on alcohol

858
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:21,319
Speaker 1: and partying, you're wasted on technology and exhaustion. That's exactly

859
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:25,839
Speaker 1: what CS is like. I Uh, I don't know how

860
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 1: I managed to do it this year, but somehow I

861
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:31,400
Speaker 1: actually managed to avoid catching the C E s crud

862
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 1: that goes around usually. I did not catch it either,

863
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:36,359
Speaker 1: and I was very happy about that. I think this

864
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 1: is the first year where I didn't feel like I

865
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Speaker 1: had a cold for the week following C E S.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you've just come into contact with so many people,

867
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Speaker 1: and the show is so huge. It's hard to explain

868
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Speaker 1: to someone who has never been how big this is.

869
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Speaker 1: But the Las Vegas convention centers, it's like nearly two

870
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Speaker 1: million square feet just for the convention center, and then

871
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:01,240
Speaker 1: you've got the other places like the Venetian, the Sands.

872
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:05,279
Speaker 1: Just getting from place to place. Yeah, I explained to

873
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:08,280
Speaker 1: people this. I say, uh, so, you know how gross

874
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:10,800
Speaker 1: your phone is and they're like yeah, And I'm like, okay,

875
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:13,480
Speaker 1: you're pretty much the only person who touches your phone

876
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 1: and it's disgusting. They say yeah. I'm like, now, imagine

877
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:21,799
Speaker 1: handling a phone that's been touched by forty people in

878
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:26,879
Speaker 1: the last five hours. That's how people get sick at

879
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:29,840
Speaker 1: C E S. So my advice to people who always

880
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:32,880
Speaker 1: go to any convention where you're touching stuff controllers like

881
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 1: E three controllers or devices or anything that has to

882
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:40,960
Speaker 1: do with human touch or people are around it a lot.

883
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 1: Always wash your hands the second you leave a booth.

884
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:46,399
Speaker 1: Always telling like, the second leave booth, just go wash

885
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 1: your hands. It is a two minute detour and literally

886
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:53,400
Speaker 1: makes the difference between not getting sick and getting really

887
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 1: really sick. Yeah. The weird thing about CS is it's

888
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Speaker 1: one of those conventions where there's a line for the

889
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 1: men's room, but not of the ladies. That's my favorite part.

890
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:04,919
Speaker 1: That's what I like about being a nerd in technologies.

891
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 1: Whenever I go to a convention, there's never a line

892
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 1: in the bathroom. Well, John, why do you think I

893
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 1: got into this industry? I was just about to say, like,

894
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:16,719
Speaker 1: it's it's good that you are able to identify the

895
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:20,879
Speaker 1: real positives of a particular career path. Uh so so

896
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:23,840
Speaker 1: readily because I didn't make I didn't get obviously, I

897
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:26,440
Speaker 1: didn't give any thought to that, and then there I

898
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:30,760
Speaker 1: am stuck in line. Um. Yeah, this was a fun conversation. Actually,

899
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining me on the show. Uh,

900
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 1: you know, just to kind of give an overview of

901
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:38,479
Speaker 1: what C was like. I know we didn't dive into

902
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:41,279
Speaker 1: a lot of different product details, but really I just

903
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 1: wanted to kind of give listeners an idea of what

904
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 1: the general tone was, what it was like. It seemed pretty, uh,

905
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 1: pretty together this year. I didn't have any problems. It

906
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:56,799
Speaker 1: seemed like everything seemed to run fairly smoothly from my perspective,

907
00:49:57,239 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 1: which was nice. I didn't have any issue was checking

908
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 1: in anywhere I got, you know, everyone seemed to get

909
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:06,360
Speaker 1: through things. I did make the mistake once again of

910
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:09,439
Speaker 1: getting between the press and free food, which you would

911
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:11,840
Speaker 1: think at this point I would be able to avoid.

912
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:15,360
Speaker 1: But don't ever do that, He'll say, you'll lose your arm. Yeah.

913
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:20,840
Speaker 1: Sometimes I just don't have enough peripheral vision. So sometimes

914
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:22,759
Speaker 1: I think I'm safe and the next thing you know,

915
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 1: I'm I'm right in front of a buffet table and

916
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:28,800
Speaker 1: that was that. That was that, That was it unveiled

917
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:32,879
Speaker 1: for sure. I remember that very well. I too. They

918
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:36,520
Speaker 1: made this terrible mistake of putting this dessert buffet table

919
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:39,480
Speaker 1: right in the middle of a very small corridor with

920
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:42,799
Speaker 1: a lot of startup stuff in it, So journalists were

921
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:46,319
Speaker 1: like rushing the table. Not a lot of things were

922
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:49,360
Speaker 1: being covered in that area, but it was just it

923
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:52,239
Speaker 1: was a real mess. Yeah, that that particular area was

924
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 1: where some of the really kind of niche weird stuff

925
00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:59,839
Speaker 1: was sitting and uh and just imagine that You've got

926
00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:02,879
Speaker 1: the narrow sort of hallway area of a larger room,

927
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:05,279
Speaker 1: like the bigger part of the room is just behind you,

928
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:08,360
Speaker 1: and you've got your in this narrow hallway, the center

929
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:11,240
Speaker 1: of which is dominated by a table covered in food,

930
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:15,920
Speaker 1: surrounded by piranha like press members who are starting. And

931
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:17,719
Speaker 1: all you want to do is get to the end

932
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:20,239
Speaker 1: of that hallway, do a loop and come back because

933
00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:23,920
Speaker 1: there's no exit out that side. You are you are

934
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:26,600
Speaker 1: committed once to go down there. And yeah, it was,

935
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:30,920
Speaker 1: it was. It was really depressing. Yeah, so but we

936
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 1: survived once again. We live to fight, Live to fight

937
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:36,400
Speaker 1: another c e s and we didn't even get sick.

938
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Speaker 1: We didn't even get sick. Yeah, I don't even know

939
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:42,920
Speaker 1: why I'm complaining. I'm just being I'm just being ridiculous. Ashley.

940
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:46,319
Speaker 1: Where can people go to find your work? Well, I

941
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:49,080
Speaker 1: am always on Twitter, so the big social media person

942
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:51,759
Speaker 1: and Twitter is my number one social media network. So

943
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Speaker 1: I'm at Ashley a skeather there. And then if you

944
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Speaker 1: want to see the daily geek talk show that I

945
00:51:57,719 --> 00:52:01,200
Speaker 1: host with kill Anonymous, it's called Tomorrow Daily and you

946
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:03,600
Speaker 1: can actually instead of going to sne net and kind

947
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Speaker 1: of looking through all the different categories, which can be

948
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949
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Speaker 1: to Tomorrow Daily dot com and it will take you

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Speaker 1: right to our show page. UM and if you if

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Speaker 1: net channel there and of course iTunes and UH and

954
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:21,960
Speaker 1: we do a video version of the podcast as well.

955
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:25,240
Speaker 1: It's it's audio or video. We film it everyday Monday

956
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:27,680
Speaker 1: through Thursday. It's a great time. We have a lot

957
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:31,239
Speaker 1: of fun. I'm all about positivity and and have you know,

958
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:33,360
Speaker 1: just basically leaving with a smile on your face. So

959
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:35,040
Speaker 1: if you've if you've left and you had a good

960
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:38,359
Speaker 1: time after watching the show, that's mission accomplished for us.

961
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:42,439
Speaker 1: So come have fun with us. It's Tomorrow Daily dot

962
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Speaker 1: com and UH and and feel free to drop me

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Speaker 1: a line on on Twitter. Awesome. And Ashley really is

964
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:52,839
Speaker 1: a great person. She had me on on a show

965
00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:55,239
Speaker 1: very long time ago. This has been a long time

966
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Speaker 1: coming having her on tech stuff. One of the sharpest

967
00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:01,680
Speaker 1: people I know and tech journalism. I always love talking

968
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Speaker 1: to you. Thank you again. And guys, if you have

969
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Speaker 1: any questions or you have suggestions for future episodes, you

970
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 1: can always reach me, text stuff at how stuff works

971
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972
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973
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