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Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast. We're too old for this show.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansis to come to you from

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Speaker 1: a virtual room filled with heroes. Mark Settler, Greg Rosenthal,

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm getting too old for and welcome

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Speaker 1: the audience. I hope you're an excellent What's today Tuesday?

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Speaker 1: While you're in the middle of the week. Now, by

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Speaker 1: the time you hear this, it might be damn Wednesday.

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Speaker 2: Monday between shows. We did a Wednesday night show. It's

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Speaker 2: pretty rare we go this long between shows.

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Speaker 1: But I'm getting I gotta saga. I'm getting sick of

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Speaker 1: this remote life enough. I feel like at a certain

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Speaker 1: point you have to ask questions in our own company

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Speaker 1: because I think everybody else is back in the office now.

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Speaker 1: It feels like the Around the NFL Podcast is the

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Speaker 1: only one that's being kept now in containment. And I

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Speaker 1: believe we're all vaccinated. I feel like we're able fellows.

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Speaker 1: And Ricky Is she's a nice girl. I mean, what

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Speaker 1: what am I missing here?

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Speaker 2: What I think some fact, some factual accuracy is what

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Speaker 2: you're missing. I don't I don't think the offices are

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Speaker 2: crowded at all. They did start the process of saying,

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Speaker 2: if you are vaccinated, fill out these forms, you can

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Speaker 2: start coming in on a voluntary basis. But when you

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Speaker 2: watch the shows, there's literally no one in the newsroom.

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Speaker 2: And now they're actually pulling back from the studio shows.

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Speaker 2: I think because they're preparing to move to the next way.

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Speaker 2: I don't think almost anyone is there, and I think

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Speaker 2: very heavy people filled that out.

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Speaker 1: Colleen back in the studio last March for a Saint

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Speaker 1: Patrick's Day show. I'm just saying, just let's let's keep

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Speaker 1: an eye on this, because we might be being quietly

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Speaker 1: phased out of the company. I see using COVID as

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Speaker 1: a kind of a shield. The shield, using a shield

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Speaker 1: to shield us from the reality that we're soon to

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Speaker 3: It's a complex plan that you're suggesting, but those cut

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Speaker 3: those types of plans two exsis in our society, and

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Speaker 3: you're you're sort of saying that we went we created,

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Speaker 3: not we, but the powers that be created an incredible

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Speaker 3: distraction by putting the world into a pandemic scenario simply

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Speaker 3: to close offices globally, but the target being to remove

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Speaker 3: our small group from the NFL Media Office.

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Speaker 1: Now I didn't look at it that way.

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Speaker 2: You take it to the Sessler. Yeah, that was a

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Speaker 2: Sessler level here. I could imagine this scenario where like

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Speaker 2: we we just keep taping these shows remotely, and we

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Speaker 2: think we're putting them up, but actually, yeah, like the

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Speaker 2: checks start stop coming and they stop going out. I

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Speaker 2: don't know, and we're not even aware of it.

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Speaker 1: And they're paying Erico like seventy five dollars extra a

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Speaker 1: month not to tell us.

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Speaker 3: And we find out that like mister f is Abot,

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Speaker 3: like anyone responding to our shows on Twitter and through

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Speaker 3: various platforms are simply you know, computer creations. For that

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Speaker 3: they were real people, but they've all been they were actors.

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Speaker 1: So you know, it's when there's like an alternate reality

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Speaker 4: An alternate reality.

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Speaker 2: We're in a simulation, a simulation Marks Mark's fantasy basically

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Speaker 2: what Mark it assumes we're in at all times, and lately,

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Speaker 2: you know, the last year is kind of like proved him,

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Speaker 2: like he might be onto something.

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Speaker 1: And then my secondary point is, and yes, it's very

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Speaker 1: important to be vaccinated. I hope everyone's doing that. It's

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Speaker 1: it's good for the world and good for our country

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Speaker 1: and being safe. But I came very close today to

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Speaker 1: starting the show without pants on, and I noticed it

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Speaker 1: And when when we're at a point where, first of all,

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Speaker 1: I guess it shows that I'm comfortable with you guys,

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Speaker 1: and that's cool. But when we get to the point

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Speaker 1: where I'm sitting in front of two laptops, lights, microphones

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Speaker 1: and I'm in boxer shorts, It's it's time. It's time,

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Speaker 1: and I'll end it right there.

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Speaker 2: I agree with you.

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Speaker 3: I know well, I know you, I know to feel,

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Speaker 3: and so I know what will happen to me. Mark

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Speaker 3: basically the last eleven years? Just agree, just go along

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Speaker 4: Feel great, prove.

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Speaker 5: It, prove it, prove it.

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Speaker 1: Speed speed out he is, he's telling me, and it

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Speaker 2: Not a lot less.

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Speaker 4: It is not that we don't need.

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Speaker 1: Let's up with all your Europeans out there, the listenership

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Speaker 1: still doing the speedo thing. Let's let's get it a

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Speaker 1: little more baggy. Let's let's leave more to the imagination

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Speaker 1: when you're at the beaches.

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Speaker 3: That's a course correction that's needed. You're right about that.

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Speaker 3: Why is that?

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Speaker 4: How did that come out of the seventies? Still intact?

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Speaker 1: Okay, so good stuff, good conversation, good Bruise, No Bruce, Bruce.

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Speaker 1: Soon when we have some time off. That's not here yet.

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Speaker 1: Today's show is glossary of terms. And I was gonna

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Speaker 1: say the off season edition, but it's not quite the

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Speaker 1: off season anymore. Greg, you're good at this. You're you're

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Speaker 1: always hopping all the internal conference calls to show your

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Speaker 1: face and make quiet connections with shadowy league figures. What

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Speaker 1: what do you call this portion of the league calendar

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Speaker 1: right now? Like, how do we define it?

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Speaker 2: This is absolutely the off season.

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Speaker 1: It is the off season, even when it's a new

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Speaker 2: I mean you could call it O t as you

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Speaker 1: They're going to get rid of that though they're going

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Speaker 1: to figure out a way. They're working on it already.

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Speaker 1: All right, So this is the off season, so it's

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Speaker 1: the off season glossary of terms. So we're gonna go

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Speaker 1: Gall and we'll take turns with the letters and anybody

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Speaker 1: have any questions. I feel like we're on the same

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Speaker 4: I always assume that we'll see.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know how we're wrong, but right we

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Speaker 2: didn't totally talk it out ahead of time. So I'm

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Speaker 2: looking forward to jump seeing how we all interpreted it.

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Speaker 1: Should be fun, should be fun. All right. We'll start

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Speaker 1: with Greg Rosenthal. The letter A Glossary of terms. All right.

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Speaker 2: My my term for the letter A is apoplectic, which

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Speaker 2: is a word that will describe Mark Sessler on the

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Speaker 2: night of September twelfth, in our new podcast Studio, as

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Speaker 2: we watch Andy Dalton start at quarterback for the Bears

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Speaker 1: Oh, so you think it's happening? What do you what's

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Speaker 1: out there? What are these sparrows slash aggregated report reports

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Speaker 1: slash beat reporters telling you right now, Greg, when you

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Speaker 2: That you know that word also it means like extremely

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Speaker 2: In general, it's not Sparrows. It's Matt Naggy's saying Andy

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Speaker 2: get by with Dalton for a few weeks. It almost

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Speaker 3: Andy Dalton is Andy Dalton functional, low ceiling, but certainly

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Speaker 3: the capable starter, and justin Fields is like getting the

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Speaker 1: Hopefully the only way, Yeah, the only way Fields doesn't

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Speaker 1: start week one because it's not just about energizing the

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Speaker 1: Give me your team a better chance to win. Matt

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Speaker 1: and I feel like anything that's that has Andy Dalton

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Speaker 1: summer didn't go so well, which is something we can't predict.

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Speaker 1: Right now, you're telling honestly, Greg, you're telling me that

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Speaker 1: if Justin Fields holds his own throughout training camp, does

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Speaker 1: say Andy Dalton is on the field.

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Speaker 2: It happens all the time. This is the guy, you know,

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Speaker 2: I just I just can imagine this week one scenario,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, here's the Matt Naggy logic at play, which would

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Speaker 1: you got Week two home against Cincinnati, then like, if

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Speaker 3: I would like to see Andy Dalton have at least

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Speaker 2: It is interesting too, because Cincinnati is filled with Justin

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Speaker 2: you know, like there's gonna they're either gonna be like

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Speaker 1: I'm looking at the schedule again here at LA home

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Speaker 1: Week five on the road against the terrible Raiders defense,

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Speaker 1: maybe that's what I don't know. I hope one plays

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Speaker 1: out all right up next the letter B, Mark Sessler.

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Speaker 3: All right, B is for Baker and the Browns. Will

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Speaker 3: they live up to the hype or do they only

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Speaker 3: operate when pandemic spreads?

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Speaker 4: Was it all a hoax?

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Speaker 3: Now that we all have micro chips in our arms?

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Speaker 3: Will someone flip a switch that turns us all into

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Speaker 3: nuclear winder zombies in week ten and none of this

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Speaker 3: will matter? Game pass becomes a memory? Uh oh?

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Speaker 2: Is it interesting glossary here? Because it's it's you know,

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Speaker 2: usually it defines words, and here it's sort of like

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Speaker 2: it's a question asking glossary, like questioning the meaning of

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Speaker 2: these words.

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Speaker 1: That any of us? Yeah, put that together? I certainly didn't.

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Speaker 1: I just said letter thing to talk about, didn't go

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Speaker 1: with your you led our sandwich prop segment with a

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Speaker 1: draft on a zach Ertz's trade bomb still hasn't happened.

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Speaker 1: I guess nobody wants him Greg.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he had a tough season. I think

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Speaker 2: they're hoping that something happens. He is holding out or

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Speaker 2: quote unquoe. It's not holding out. I shouldn't use that term.

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Speaker 2: It's all voluntary he is not going to the voluntary

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Speaker 2: workouts with the Eagles. Just not a surprise, but about

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Speaker 2: eighty ninety percent of most of the teams that started

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Speaker 2: him did show up. So the whole like voluntarily opting

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Speaker 2: out of the offseason thing is not working for the NFLPA.

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Speaker 2: But Eartz is an exception. I think they're hoping something

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Speaker 2: happens in camp where someone like gives up a fifth

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Speaker 2: round trade swap between his his production and his salary.

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Speaker 2: I can't see there me being much I could dress.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 3: I maybe Jacksonville, like you know, pre Tintibo, the Indy

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Speaker 3: for nothing.

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Speaker 2: Like Indy has plenty of caps face. I would think

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Speaker 2: maybe he'll end up there.

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Speaker 3: I kind of doubt when someone like Ripe knows Ertz

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Speaker 3: and you knew him in a better time, and I

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Speaker 3: think Ertz was banged up last year in ways that

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Speaker 3: we just you know, oh he's got this injury.

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Speaker 4: He just did not look healthy to me in a

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Speaker 4: bad offense.

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Speaker 1: All right. The letter E mark all right.

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Speaker 3: The letter E is for Erica aka Ricky Hollywood, who

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Speaker 3: will file our E entry by proxy if she hasn't

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Speaker 3: drifted off to sleep, whether she is.

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Speaker 5: E is for Etti en the jag you are second

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Speaker 5: pick in the NFL draft.

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Speaker 6: He did all his work at.

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Speaker 5: Wide receiver in his first mini camp this week. And

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Speaker 5: did you know that he was used heavily as a

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Speaker 5: receiver at Clemson with who which quarterback?

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Speaker 6: Trevor Lawrence, the now QB for the Jacks.

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Speaker 5: The letter E and also also E for England, which

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Speaker 5: is in the UK. And I need to apologize to

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Speaker 5: many of the Irish listeners who are very very upset

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Speaker 5: that I included it when I said the UK, I misspoke.

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Speaker 5: I said when we were over there, because it's so

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Speaker 5: easy and quick. It's the same thing of going from

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Speaker 5: New England, you know, into New York. While we're right

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Speaker 5: over there, I want to go to Ireland as well,

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Speaker 5: so I apologize.

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Speaker 6: I know that Ireland is not part of the UK.

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Speaker 3: There we can shove anything we want into the entrary

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Speaker 3: which flexible history.

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Speaker 1: Is indeed rich, Ricky. But thank you for coming clean

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Speaker 1: on that. And also yes, I don't know, do you

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Speaker 1: guys put anything into attend the team of Aten playing

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Speaker 1: wide receiver at all? Or is this just urban Meyer

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Speaker 1: and people getting excited about a new era of Jaguars football.

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Speaker 3: I thought Meyer was basically saying, let's use this extra

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Speaker 3: time that we have with these rookies to get him,

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Speaker 3: you know, practice at a position that he typically wouldn't

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Speaker 3: always be at.

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Speaker 4: I mean, look, they he's.

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Speaker 3: Urban Meyers already on the radar of so many fantasy

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Speaker 3: people because the first comment was we've drafted this guy

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Speaker 3: in the you know, in the high up in the

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Speaker 3: first round, we're going to be a committee backfield with

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Speaker 3: a bunch of Jabbroni's and Travis etn And then now

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Speaker 3: he's playing wide receiver. I think you've got these people

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Speaker 3: trying to draft for dynasty scenarios with their hair on

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Speaker 3: fire and probably avoiding them all together. But you know,

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Speaker 3: if he can play, he's going to play a little

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Speaker 3: bit of everything. And like I like a running back,

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Speaker 3: they can use versatile. I mean, I don't have a

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Speaker 3: I'm not sitting up at nights worrying about it.

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Speaker 4: Are you great?

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Speaker 2: It's also like what are they what running are they

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Speaker 2: practicing at rookie mini camps? But what anything are you practicing?

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Speaker 2: I the people that actually go to these things that

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Speaker 2: I trust and read about almost all uniformly said they

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Speaker 2: learned their lessons over ten years that there is virtually

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Speaker 2: nothing you can take from these mini camps. Like JaMarcus

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Speaker 2: Lazo looked like the best player ever. Other guys have

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Speaker 2: looked terrible and other than like injuries and just little

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Speaker 2: positional things like this. I don't think there's any anything

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Speaker 2: you can take that has too much meaning.

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Speaker 1: You bring up JaMarcus Russell and you know, we're coming

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Speaker 1: off a year where Isaiah Wilson, first round pick of

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Speaker 1: the Titans out of football, now one of the great

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Speaker 1: busts ever. But to me, Russell's still the biggest one

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Speaker 1: ever and still the best story is when they gave

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Speaker 1: him a CD and said this is the playbook, and

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Speaker 1: then he came back to the campus or to camp

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Speaker 1: and they asked him about the playbook and he said, oh, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it looks good. I'm ready, And they had nothing on

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Speaker 1: the CD. So they were just testing him because I

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Speaker 1: guess they had some concerns about whether he was doing

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Speaker 1: his homework.

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Speaker 4: His diligence.

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Speaker 2: That's the old about our podcast once a year. I

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Speaker 2: liked that one. It reminds me something similar, just made

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Speaker 2: me think that there was a story this week and

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Speaker 2: how Jed York, even the owner of the forty nine

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Speaker 2: ers thought that John Lynch he, if he had to guess,

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Speaker 2: he thought they were taking mac Jones. And it got

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Speaker 2: me thinking, I think they pulled like a JaMarcus Russell

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Speaker 2: thing on Jed Yorke. It's like there's a little bit

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Speaker 2: of a reason here, Like there was no leaks and

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Speaker 2: no one knew what was going on. They kept that close.

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Speaker 2: That was my reading between the lines of like, let's

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Speaker 2: make sure this nut gets out, let's doesn't get out,

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Speaker 2: let's not tell ownership.

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Speaker 1: The letter F is for Fried's Squirrel. Raven's rookie guard

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Speaker 1: Ben Cleveland at the combine, a reporter asked him he

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Speaker 1: looked a little trimmer then the last time he was

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Speaker 1: seen in public, and he called it part of his

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Speaker 1: squirrel diet. And of course people go crazy about that

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Speaker 1: because you know, first of all, eating squirrel that's pretty hardcore.

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Speaker 1: He's an avid hunter. He hunts all type of game

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Speaker 1: and eats all different things. But he said he clarified

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Speaker 1: his comments and said that you know, I don't eat

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Speaker 1: squirrel exclusively, but if I'm hungry and I have to

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Speaker 1: dig around in the deep freeze, if I find a

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Speaker 1: squirrel in there, I'll, you know, defrost it and chow

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Speaker 1: down on it. I have a couple thoughts. But first,

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Speaker 1: if you've ever been curious, because I certainly was, and

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Speaker 1: you know, I have a relationship with squirrels. Now after

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Speaker 1: what happened to the pandemic at my previous residence, What

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Speaker 1: does squirrel taste like?

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Speaker 2: Uh?

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Speaker 1: Here's what Cleveland had to say. I mean, it tastes.

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Speaker 7: It tastes like squirrel. I mean, I don't know how

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Speaker 7: to plan it to you.

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Speaker 4: I would imagine a nutty flavor.

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Speaker 1: No, not really.

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Speaker 7: Now, some some squirrels, like down south that will take

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Speaker 7: like in South Georgia that will taste a little bit

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Speaker 7: more nutty. But I mean up here they are are

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Speaker 7: like acorns and stuff like that.

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Speaker 1: They're not really.

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Speaker 7: As strong as the ones down south, so you know,

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Speaker 7: most most of them up here they I mean it

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Speaker 7: tastes like squirrel. I mean, I mean enough, do you

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Speaker 7: put enough seasoning on it? You can make it taste

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Speaker 7: like whatever you wanted to taste like.

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Speaker 1: But I should say that was from the Baltimore Ravens

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Speaker 1: The Lounge podcast. You know what, I guess. I don't know, man,

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Speaker 1: I don't think any of us actually know. None of

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Speaker 1: us are hunters, But I know there's a whole cross

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Speaker 1: section of our country that is. But it just when

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Speaker 1: you hear a guy like that, you see a guy

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Speaker 1: like that, and you see what he's talking about. An

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Speaker 1: NFL locker room is an interesting place. It's got a

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Speaker 1: whole lot of things going on in it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean yes, Like there are actually different levels

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Speaker 3: of men that you would probably find on like an

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Speaker 3: NFL podcast for the most part. And I would just say,

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Speaker 3: you know, your city squirrels, Dan are probably safe. I

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Speaker 3: don't think those are the squirrels that you hunt and eat.

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Speaker 4: They probably not taste.

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Speaker 3: They would taste like you know, zinc and like car pieces.

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Speaker 3: But like if you're if you're in the deep woods,

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Speaker 3: I would imagine and I don't even I wouldn't even

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Speaker 3: choose to eat it. But you could cook up a

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Speaker 3: squirrel with some spices and some side foods and make

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Speaker 3: it taste.

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Speaker 4: He's a survivalist.

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Speaker 2: Offensive line definitely gets a different type of guy than

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Speaker 2: let's say, like the edge rushers. Like I don't you know,

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Speaker 2: it's a different it's it's often ah, it's a very

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Speaker 2: different group. I do like it is. I do think

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Speaker 2: about when it comes to eating animals like the more

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Speaker 2: because everyone sounds, you know, sounds grossed out by eating

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Speaker 2: a squirrel, and yeah, that's probably my first reaction too.

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Speaker 2: But it's like, once you get past the like the

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Speaker 2: moral part of eating any animal, it's almost saying like

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Speaker 2: one animal is better than the other, as as like

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Speaker 2: a bean, if you would like eat one but not

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Speaker 2: the other, which I always seemed like a moral quandary.

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Speaker 2: I think people step into well.

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Speaker 1: You certainly a conversation piece.

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Speaker 2: It's like, once I'm gonna eat one animal, it's like.

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Speaker 1: I guess eating any meat wise.

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Speaker 2: Well, the most regular thing I've been ordering this yak

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Speaker 2: chili from Terra Himalayan Cuisine about once every three weeks

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Speaker 2: during the pandemic. It is delicious, and that's pretty that's

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Speaker 2: pretty weird. Gamey, gamey a little bit, Yeah, tasty, really gamey.

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Speaker 4: Why would game sound like?

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Speaker 1: That's usual? What people say when you hear that, it's.

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Speaker 2: Kind of like, have you ever had a like buffalo

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Speaker 2: meat or whatever? Kind of like that.

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Speaker 1: I had some alligator down in know Len's that tasts

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Speaker 1: like alligator chewy. Yeah, yeah, not something I would do again.

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Speaker 1: How about you? Mark and then your past?

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Speaker 4: Maybe no I don't know. I can't, I couldn't. I'm not.

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Speaker 3: I'm not going to like dazzle you on this on

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Speaker 3: this front. I mean, I still find it odd that

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Speaker 3: like people put on top of pieces of oats, you know,

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Speaker 3: like the breast milk from a two thousand pound cow,

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Speaker 3: and find that to be something.

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Speaker 2: Right, everything, everything seems a little crazy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, right, I do. Like when Mark starts talking food,

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Speaker 1: it sounds like an alien talking about how humans act,

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Speaker 1: all right? Or the letter g greg.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well you gotta go with the ger Man.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: That's it's a nick that that is a nickname created

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Speaker 2: originally by Chris Berman and popularized by someone called the

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Speaker 2: new old Daddy of Zeusser that helps to make one

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Speaker 2: of the most annually boring NFL teams sound more entertaining.

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Speaker 1: Oh what about this year they got a little juice.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they seem like a little more fun. I was

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Speaker 2: hopeful going into last year didn't pan out. It's it's

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Speaker 2: been a long stretch where the Giants have been pretty

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Speaker 2: intim I would say, I mean, the last four years

649
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Speaker 2: in New York football is wildly terrible.

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Speaker 3: Another Gido is Gettleman, who I think you know at

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Speaker 3: least changed some of the you know, easy jokes around

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Speaker 3: him at the draft by doing what no one thought

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Speaker 3: he could do. And like their offense is interesting, I

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Speaker 3: would be the most concerned about their offensive line.

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Speaker 4: They didn't really add anyone.

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Speaker 3: They had issues last year and you know, if you

657
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Speaker 3: put Daniel Jones behind the line, that's not protecting them goodbye.

658
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 2: I think I think it'll be fun to watch you.

659
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 2: How are you Dan thinking about the nickname the new

660
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,719
Speaker 2: Old Daddy Zeuser, because you might have a branding problem.

661
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 2: You've got all these different nicknames and it's like you

662
00:31:58,240 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 2: need one to stick above the rest.

663
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 1: But this, well, you're you're contributing to trying to muddle

664
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 1: my brand, which I don't appreciate. But the new Old

665
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 1: Blue Eyes is something that's really taken off and that's

666
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 1: kind of grabbed the imagination of people, and that's cool

667
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 1: with me. I you know, this is not really my call.

668
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 1: The Old Zeuser, I think, is the standby. That's the

669
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 1: one that's you know, people know the most. And you know,

670
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 1: Big Daddy Rich is also just in the mix, and

671
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 1: that's out there and some people like it, some people don't.

672
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 1: But it's really three big Daddy Rich.

673
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 2: I didn't even know that I had a big in there,

674
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 2: and I.

675
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 1: Don't think so. Maybe I had it big, but it's

676
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 1: it's Daddy Rich. It's Daddy Rich in honor of Chuck Daily.

677
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 1: That was a Chris Westling. He threw that one out

678
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 1: there as an option. I always liked it. It just didn't take.

679
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 3: I'm sure Chuck Daly is honored to find out that

680
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 3: you've gone in that direction.

681
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 1: Chuck Daily is not honored about anything anymore, unfortunately, so

682
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 1: a little bit awkward, but we're going to keep moving.

683
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 1: Maybe his a state, his estate. The letter H Mark

684
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 1: Sessler all right, H is.

685
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 3: For Harris Kama Naji, who was living in a dorm

686
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:11,480
Speaker 3: room in Alabama six months ago cooking top ramen noodle

687
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 3: in a one man hot pot, but now must save

688
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 3: a Steelers attack that was essentially stuck in carbonite for

689
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 3: most of last season. I mean, I don't actually think

690
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 3: he was eating out of a hot pot in a

691
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 3: dorm room, but I do think he's extremely important to

692
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 3: this Steelers offense. And there's definitely a controversy among Pittsburgh

693
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 3: fans who wanted them to go offensive line, not running back,

694
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 3: because running backs apparently don't have any more value than

695
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 3: like a bag of salt right now to draftnicks.

696
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 4: But I love that they picked him up.

697
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 3: I think it gives them some spice and they are

698
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 3: going to have to be run heavy. If Big Ben

699
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 3: looks like he did down the stretch of last season,

700
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 3: maybe is.

701
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 1: It a little bit underplayed to that point, it's a

702
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 1: little bit underplayed that when they ran into their struggles,

703
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 1: and I remember they started eleven and zero and then

704
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 1: just went in the tank and got wiped out by

705
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 1: the Browns in the playoffs. But like when that offense

706
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:08,799
Speaker 1: was sputtering, the fact that the running game was just

707
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 1: stuck in mud all year, there was nothing explosive back there.

708
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 1: Maybe they've diagnosed this and this is going to be

709
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:18,800
Speaker 1: a huge lift. If this guy is a big time player,

710
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:22,880
Speaker 1: he could have a huge transformational effect on the offense. Potentially.

711
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 2: It's more about the line though. James Connor, you know,

712
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:29,479
Speaker 2: according to PFF's numbers, actually was pretty good in terms

713
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:33,399
Speaker 2: of yards after contact. But I think he among all

714
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 2: running backs in the NFL, he was like hit behind

715
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:40,239
Speaker 2: the line of scrimmage more often, and almost every offensive

716
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 2: line metric they had was a disaster. Now they do.

717
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 2: There is a way you could squint and their offensive

718
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 2: line could work out. It's very hard to predict. I'm

719
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 2: I hate doing you know. You guys always you're like,

720
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 2: tell me I'm a contrarian, which I didn't realize until

721
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:56,239
Speaker 2: you guys told me that, or you know, and I

722
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 2: don't like that.

723
00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,320
Speaker 1: Wait, no one else ever said that to you before

724
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:00,120
Speaker 1: we started, mak.

725
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:02,799
Speaker 4: So you just surrounded yourself with yes men.

726
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 2: Essentially, no, because I don't. I don't think of it

727
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 2: that way. I do get anxious though, when there's too

728
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 2: much of a consensus and the fact that the Steelers

729
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:14,239
Speaker 2: are like almost a touchdown underdog in Week one and

730
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 2: they're plus eight hundred to win the division. So put

731
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:20,360
Speaker 2: it this way, people think that that the Eagles and

732
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:22,319
Speaker 2: Giants have about twice as good a chance to win

733
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 2: their division as the Steelers do to possibly win, like

734
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 2: they are kind of being treated like like a below

735
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 2: five hundred team, And I get and that that makes

736
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 2: me a little I do push back against that, just

737
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 2: because I'm I'm just gonna give Mike Tomlin and the

738
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 2: organization the benefit of the doubt that that's not that

739
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 2: likely to happen. It kind of happened.

740
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 3: I with you on that, because I would say this,

741
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 3: like I had my fun with the Steelers coming out

742
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 3: of the out of last year just because it ended

743
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:53,400
Speaker 3: in spectaculary disastrous fashion. But there are those odds you

744
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 3: mentioned are because the division they're in. If you put

745
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:57,280
Speaker 3: the Steelers in the NFC East, we're not having that conversation.

746
00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 2: The public is so out on them. I've talked out

747
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:01,920
Speaker 2: of both sides of my mouth because ultimately, do I

748
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 2: think the Ravens and the Browns are better teams? Yeah,

749
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 2: I do, But I'm just not I'm not giving up

750
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,399
Speaker 2: on the Steelers mattering. I think they got a shot.

751
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:12,359
Speaker 3: Couldn't the Steelers finished one game behind Cleveland or one

752
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:15,279
Speaker 3: game ahead of Cleveland, we wouldn't be that surprised. I mean, realistically,

753
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 3: I think that's what the real environment is.

754
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:22,399
Speaker 1: Their schedule first four weeks at Buffalo home Raiders home

755
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,359
Speaker 1: Bengals at Gream Bay. That's a nice We're gonna get

756
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 1: a nice little temperature check on where they.

757
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,760
Speaker 4: Are right depending on who Dream Bay is right.

758
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:35,920
Speaker 1: Well, assuming Aaron Rodgers is there, the letter I is

759
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 1: that where we are?

760
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:38,239
Speaker 2: Yes, we got a ways to go.

761
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:42,279
Speaker 1: Here, Irvin Comma Michael speaking of Aaron Rodgers. I could

762
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 1: not let this get off our radar either. Let's just

763
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 1: listen to Irvin talking about Aaron Rodgers during the schedule

764
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:53,439
Speaker 1: release show last week, and I'm amazed this was on TV.

765
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:55,759
Speaker 1: Go ahead, Ricky, and I'm gonna tell you something. One

766
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 1: of the measuring sticks.

767
00:36:56,800 --> 00:37:00,359
Speaker 8: That I placed upon people that I meet when I'm

768
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 8: engaging in any kind of conversation or business relationship, personal nation,

769
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 8: I measured this, if you can fall out with your mama,

770
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 8: with your mama, your mother, your mother, the woman.

771
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:17,920
Speaker 1: That had to figure out what you.

772
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 8: Wanted, just from the noise that emanated from your body.

773
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 1: He's crying, Oh, you hung your baby, baby. Go oh,

774
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 1: you gotta win Bike that if you get cut.

775
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 8: Off your mama, you definitely cut off genims on a

776
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:30,919
Speaker 8: football team.

777
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 1: I'm just telling you right now, hey, Ricky, we don't

778
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 1: need to hear the Aaron Rodgers party again where he

779
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 1: goes into the mama. I just want to hear that

780
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 1: set up again. I just want to try to process

781
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:44,399
Speaker 1: that before he goes into a play one more time.

782
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna tell you something.

783
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 8: One of the measuring sticks that I place upon people

784
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 8: that I meet.

785
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:51,919
Speaker 1: That's the most fascinating part of this. For everything else

786
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:57,360
Speaker 1: is like a peak vintage. Michael Irvin is an awesome,

787
00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:01,799
Speaker 1: crazy person, But I just like the idea that he

788
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 1: prefaces by saying that any relationship in his life the

789
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 1: measuring stick he uses about that person is I guess

790
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:12,880
Speaker 1: he does some deep research and he finds out what

791
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 1: the relationship between this person and their mother is, and

792
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 1: then he's able to then proceed forward or repel against

793
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 1: any type of relationship. That's fascinating for me. How does

794
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 1: he do this research? How does he learn about the

795
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:29,760
Speaker 1: family structure? These are all questions I have about Michael.

796
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 3: Erving It's a different way to go about your Your

797
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:33,760
Speaker 3: business matters, personal matters.

798
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 2: The measuring stick he didn't say the measuring stick is.

799
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:40,719
Speaker 2: You know, it's one of many, one of many factors. Yeah,

800
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 2: that was one one example of why Michael Irvin is

801
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:49,839
Speaker 2: great television in my opinion, and another example of why

802
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 2: and I wouldn't you know, throw Irvin as the only

803
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 2: one here that the conversation around this entire Aaron Rodgers

804
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 2: trade request. He's getting problematic, you know, it's just no

805
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:05,399
Speaker 2: one knows what's inside this guy's head, and a lot

806
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 2: of people are assuming a lot that they really don't

807
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:09,360
Speaker 2: know about who he is as a person. It's a

808
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:11,400
Speaker 2: tough thing to talk about because no one knows anything.

809
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 2: He's not the only one I've I've noticed some other

810
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 2: bad coverage of this where it's just like people are

811
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 2: just like assuming they know what he's thinking. You don't know,

812
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:26,359
Speaker 2: you speak like saying it's not his bad. It's just like,

813
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:28,800
Speaker 2: it's a tough spot for to talk about.

814
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 1: I want an oral history on the pre production meeting

815
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 1: before that show, Like, so Michael Irvin said, gos, this

816
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 1: is what I want to talk about, Aaron Rodgers's relationship

817
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 1: with his mom and why it says a lot about

818
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:42,839
Speaker 1: his relationship with the packers. And nobody was like, Hey, Mike,

819
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:46,760
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, I don't know. That feels really personal.

820
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 1: We don't really know the situation there, do we might

821
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 1: maybe we don't go on TV with that one.

822
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 3: Well, he probably he probably dropped that like an a

823
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:56,399
Speaker 3: bomb from the sky, and I'm I'm sure they knew

824
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:56,839
Speaker 3: that was coming.

825
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 1: Well, if you look at Kurt Warner's face in the background, right,

826
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 1: it might have been gee, I mean, Jay from g.

827
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:10,880
Speaker 2: Oh Yeah, I'm gonna go jugs machine. This is a

828
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:15,880
Speaker 2: football throwing machine that helps athletes in improve their ball skills.

829
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 2: It is also notable for having better chemistry with Odell

830
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:24,720
Speaker 2: Beckham than his actual quarterback Baker Mayfield.

831
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 1: Not see that sniper fire?

832
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 4: So what is your what is the thrusts?

833
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:33,839
Speaker 2: I just you look at the end of the book

834
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 2: about football and here's the glossary, and you learn I

835
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 2: don't know. I don't. I on one hand, I don't

836
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:44,320
Speaker 2: understand why they've had bad chemistry, and I don't fully

837
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 2: I tend to think the numbers that are better without

838
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 2: Odell and with them are partially attributed to other factors

839
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 2: and luck and just randomness. On the other hand, they

840
00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 2: don't have great chemistry. They have not maxed out Odell

841
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 2: Beckham there, and that's really important. See I think like

842
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 2: both things can be true. It hasn't. They haven't maxed

843
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 2: out the best Odell Beckham or the best Browns offense

844
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:13,359
Speaker 2: with Baker and Odell, and that's important. Maybe it'll be

845
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 2: not a non story, but it's something to watch.

846
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:19,319
Speaker 3: I would argue that it's another topic. We're killing the

847
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 3: Rogers topic. Understandably that the are the Browns better without

848
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:25,760
Speaker 3: Odell Beckham has run its cycle?

849
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:27,840
Speaker 2: I willn't go that way far, but they do need

850
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 2: to have better chemistry. I would never say they were

851
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:33,280
Speaker 2: better without him, but can't they be better together?

852
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 4: But they were?

853
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:35,840
Speaker 3: And the other thing is I think when when Odell

854
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:39,840
Speaker 3: Beckham is in there, it's Odell Beckham's offense from a

855
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 3: what's the focal point, and when he's not in there,

856
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 3: it becomes Baker Mayfield's offense. I mean, I could argue

857
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:48,359
Speaker 3: it's the CH's offense, but something about the only thing

858
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 3: I clung to a little bit, and it's hard to

859
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 3: put numbers onto just that. I think when your quarterback

860
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 3: becomes the alpha, things take on a different look than

861
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:00,760
Speaker 3: when your alpha a wide receiver.

862
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 4: I don't know, like he.

863
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:06,440
Speaker 2: Is part of it. I've heard a theory that Baker's

864
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 2: height like that Eli, you know, served up these little

865
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:12,880
Speaker 2: slants over the middle, these short passes that Odell, you know,

866
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 2: kind of these short passes that Odell can take a

867
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 2: long way, and it's been a little tougher to generate

868
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 2: those in the Browns offense. And does that have to

869
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 2: do with Bakers? I don't know that who the heck knows.

870
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:23,759
Speaker 2: That's the thing is, I have no idea why this

871
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:25,840
Speaker 2: is the case, but it's still something to watch.

872
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 3: It's nebulous, but there's something about it that feels tangible.

873
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:32,400
Speaker 1: That's the closest we've ever come to an Eli Manning

874
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:38,319
Speaker 1: compliment from Greg on this podcast enough to slants Odell Beck.

875
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:41,799
Speaker 2: Go watch Eli Manning in the twenty eleven season, down

876
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:44,799
Speaker 2: the stretch into the Super Bowl. He was performing like

877
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 2: a top five quarterback who reminded you know who. He

878
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:49,879
Speaker 2: reminded me a little of is how Justin Herbert played

879
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 2: last year. Obviously not the athleticism, but he was. I

880
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 2: want to just give some Eli compliments. Incredible under pressure

881
00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 2: and hitting low percentage throws that you just could not

882
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 2: leave where. He had the cojones of a superstar. So

883
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 2: there you go, and.

884
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 1: That twenty eleven playoff, the throat to Mario manningham was

885
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 1: a a ninety nine percentile level throw in terms of

886
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 1: skill level and difficulty. I wonder if Odell, if they

887
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:19,879
Speaker 1: just had a disappointing season and maybe had another hamstring,

888
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 1: whether he would have been a more attractive trade option

889
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 1: for Cleveland if they decided to go in another direction.

890
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 1: But when you're coming off reconstructive knee surgery, that doesn't

891
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 1: help in terms of evaluating whether he's a part of

892
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:33,760
Speaker 1: the team. But we're gonna get another season of them together,

893
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 1: so we'll see what happens, all right. Next up, is

894
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 1: is it Kay with Mark Sessler? Yes?

895
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 3: Kay is for Kyle Pitts, the hot Lanta fascination. I

896
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:49,239
Speaker 3: can't wait to see him, you know, burning down the

897
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 3: sideline on a ninety eight yard catch and run touchdown

898
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:55,839
Speaker 3: against the Bucks while he's pointing the entire time at

899
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:58,959
Speaker 3: an amused gronk on Tampa's sideline. And you know, while

900
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:01,880
Speaker 3: I say this to you, a little man named Barnesy

901
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 3: Tops is already in his studio working on a commissioned

902
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 3: bust of pits for Canton.

903
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:09,839
Speaker 4: It's all happening. He's already been put in the Hall

904
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:10,280
Speaker 4: of Fame.

905
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:16,440
Speaker 1: Greg, we've been very hot, Greg, Barney what was the.

906
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:21,840
Speaker 3: Name again, Barney Tops, the sculptor works with bronze medals.

907
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:26,800
Speaker 1: Barney Tops. Greg, you've been very hot on various platforms

908
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 1: about the Falcons. Should not be in a rush to

909
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:34,720
Speaker 1: trade trade, Julio Jones. Let's see this offense working together I've.

910
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 2: Got more coming in the dictionary too, but I'm doing

911
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 2: the Projected Starters series. They're out this week. They're starting

912
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:44,759
Speaker 2: to come out. I look at this Atlanta offense. You

913
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 2: gotta have some things go right. I think there's a

914
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:49,799
Speaker 2: chance there are a top five offense. So what are

915
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:52,759
Speaker 2: we doing here? You know, what are we doing? I'm

916
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:57,840
Speaker 2: with you on on on Bronzie or Topsy? What's he doing?

917
00:44:58,640 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 1: Campaign?

918
00:44:59,560 --> 00:44:59,759
Speaker 4: Yeah?

919
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I put Julio in the Hall of Fame. And oh,

920
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 2: by the way, Calvin Ridley is one of the top

921
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:07,280
Speaker 2: fifteen receivers in the league and is gonna shred single

922
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:09,920
Speaker 2: coverage that he sees. And oh, by the way, Hayden

923
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:11,879
Speaker 2: Hurst is the best backup tight end now in the league.

924
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 2: I like Hayten Nurse a lot. Justin Gage is a

925
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:16,759
Speaker 2: pretty good player, like Arthur Smith if he's as good

926
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:19,239
Speaker 2: as we think. Man, this is a fun team. It's

927
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:20,360
Speaker 2: a fun team, and.

928
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 1: You can't learn everything just by looking at numbers. But

929
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:25,359
Speaker 1: go look at Calvin Ridley's number since he came into

930
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:29,840
Speaker 1: the league. That dude balls and he's just entering his prime.

931
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 1: The letter L logos all right here, I have two

932
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 1: things here. First, I'm gonna just do a quick top

933
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 1: five best logos. This is my list. Don't get mad

934
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:40,400
Speaker 1: at me. It's my opinion. You can't take it from me.

935
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 1: Five the Chargers, like the bolt for the Saints. Just

936
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:47,319
Speaker 1: feel that's I mean, that's New Orleans. What is it

937
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:48,400
Speaker 1: called Greg the Saints.

938
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 2: Thing, Florida Lee? What is it Florida Lee.

939
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 1: Ford Lee Florid Viking.

940
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:56,880
Speaker 4: Florida de Lee the Saints.

941
00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 2: But yes, right, but that's what it is.

942
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:03,400
Speaker 1: Three Vikings love the Viking, Love that dude. Two the

943
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 1: Cowboys just classic, it's America. And one the Raiders. But

944
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 1: so that's my list. Now I want to seg from

945
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 1: logos to mascots. Kind of cheating, but whatever. On Reddit

946
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 1: there is a poster called el hashtag machilero, so I

947
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:24,400
Speaker 1: want to give him credit. Let's go through it. Fourteen

948
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 1: animals for mascots. Five birds, three are carnivorous, one omnivore,

949
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 1: one vegetarian. Nine mammals. There are four cats, two horses,

950
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:38,239
Speaker 1: one sheep, one aquatic mammal, one bear, twelve humans. Five

951
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 1: occupations chief cowboy, packing plant employee, which is awesome, steel worker,

952
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 1: gold miner, one, geographic Texan one religious greg Saints, two

953
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:53,400
Speaker 1: historic Patriot, Viking, two pirates, of course, bucks and raiders.

954
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:56,320
Speaker 1: There are two fictional creatures, a giant and a titan,

955
00:46:56,560 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 1: two machines, a jet and a charger. Three distract concepts.

956
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:04,440
Speaker 1: And isn't a fitting mark that the color brown? You're

957
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:08,400
Speaker 1: an abstract concept of a man mark a football team,

958
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 1: the Washington football team. Abstract concept the identity of a

959
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:15,360
Speaker 1: person named Bill, the Buffalo, Bill's smallest by weight, Cardinals,

960
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:19,400
Speaker 1: largest by weight, Titan, Greek god or the moon of Saturn.

961
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 1: Edible twenty eight non edible four. Can a single adult

962
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:28,400
Speaker 1: human kill it with bare hands alone? Yes? Sixteen six non.

963
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:32,879
Speaker 2: Edible four only four. I mean the humans are edible, sure,

964
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:34,360
Speaker 2: because there are more humans.

965
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 4: I mean a giant can eat a human, though that

966
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 4: happens all the.

967
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:42,359
Speaker 1: Time humans, it's human history, and there is cannibalism.

968
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 2: That's a real thing. Going to Viking for breakfast?

969
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 1: Can it kill an adult human? Yes? Twenty five, assuming

970
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 1: a very high voltage charger, most expensive a jet, least

971
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:57,439
Speaker 1: expensive a charger double, a battery charger under ten bucks

972
00:47:57,480 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 1: on Amazon, and goes on and on and on. Well, wait,

973
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:02,920
Speaker 1: good knowledge.

974
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:10,719
Speaker 3: The heaviest was awarded to Titan. Is a titan, I

975
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 3: mean more more than a jet.

976
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he's a giant. Giant asked all.

977
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 3: Right, well, I don't know how what saw what where

978
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 3: he's getting his Titan measurables fron, But I will say

979
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:24,400
Speaker 3: I believe I always knew thought that the Browns were

980
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:26,240
Speaker 3: named after Joe Louis, the Brown Bomber.

981
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 4: I was a contest. Others say Paul Brown.

982
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 3: So I don't know about nebulous or whatever they said

983
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 3: vague concept, but I love the list it is.

984
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 2: Though, because there was a lot of mystery to it.

985
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 2: I really think it was Paul Brown naming it after himself,

986
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 2: and then he was just always super coy about it.

987
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 2: And then at the end of his life he was.

988
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:46,200
Speaker 3: Kind of like, yeah, maybe there was a contest, but

989
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:48,720
Speaker 3: he steered in a certain direction.

990
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:52,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, all right, let's that's a good info.

991
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:55,920
Speaker 3: I don't think the chargers are going for like phone charger,

992
00:48:55,960 --> 00:49:00,320
Speaker 3: but I understand that concept too, like the Veloss Angelis

993
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 3: phone chargers.

994
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:03,840
Speaker 4: I mean that that is take.

995
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:07,440
Speaker 1: It with l under underscore machilero.

996
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 2: Okay, well we're on We're on the topic. By the way.

997
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 2: Here we just talked to a little Falcons. So m

998
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:17,440
Speaker 2: is for Mattie Ice a k a. Matt Ryan aka

999
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 2: the Vanilla Assassin. Uh. This Falcons quarterback is uh my

1000
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:24,759
Speaker 2: favorite pick as the best sneaky long shot to win

1001
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:27,320
Speaker 2: the twenty twenty one m v P. You know so,

1002
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 2: so if if you're looking at those.

1003
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 1: Twenty six touchdowns and twelve interceptions is going to do it,

1004
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:32,799
Speaker 1: then that's not going.

1005
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:34,200
Speaker 2: To do it. But that was that was where I

1006
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:38,840
Speaker 2: was getting at with these weapons here. Pitt's Julio ridley Hurst.

1007
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 2: I like Gage. They actually have some high draft picks

1008
00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:45,719
Speaker 2: on their offensive line. They've been average, but I think

1009
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:48,359
Speaker 2: Arthur Smith is their biggest addition for the offensive. If

1010
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:50,239
Speaker 2: everything goes right, they could be a top three or

1011
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 2: four offense. That's all I'm saying.

1012
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 1: So, because I know you're excited about these Falcons, another

1013
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 1: reason why we should go over to London and see

1014
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:02,440
Speaker 1: Jets vy Falcons at the Big Tot the Hot Toddy.

1015
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna set the over under at nine and a

1016
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:09,360
Speaker 1: half wins.

1017
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:12,879
Speaker 2: I'll go. I mean, if I was actually putting money down,

1018
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 2: I don't know if I would do this, but I'm

1019
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:15,920
Speaker 2: gonna predict they go ten and seven. I just like

1020
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:17,920
Speaker 2: their offense, and that's that's what I want to root for.

1021
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:20,960
Speaker 4: You have to win m v P.

1022
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:25,160
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, so I'll go I'll go over and their

1023
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:27,759
Speaker 2: defense looks like a mess. I'm not saying that, but

1024
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 2: if you can somehow find your way to a top

1025
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:32,879
Speaker 2: five offense, you'll you'll. You know, talkings fans know this.

1026
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:35,600
Speaker 2: Sometimes it's not all about, you know, winning the Super Bowl.

1027
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:39,160
Speaker 2: I really do think people are too That's not what

1028
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 2: I meant.

1029
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:43,840
Speaker 1: G Greg, you are be very careful here, Greg. You

1030
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 1: are a Patriot fan. Are you sure you want to

1031
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 1: be making this point right now?

1032
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 2: I think being a sports fan is more than just

1033
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 2: if your talking team won the Super Bowl at the

1034
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 2: end of the season. I think Falcons fans would tell

1035
00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 2: you when they look back at the Dione Sanders, when

1036
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:03,479
Speaker 2: they look back at the Michael Vick era, that those

1037
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 2: were like special teams that were entertaining and fun to

1038
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 2: watch and they didn't end up getting getting anywhere. And

1039
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 2: it's like that still brings a lot of value. If

1040
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:14,279
Speaker 2: you're telling me, I gotta go pay tickets, I want

1041
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 2: to go see thirty five points a game and see

1042
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 2: a fun team, you know, this team, and it's not

1043
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:22,200
Speaker 2: like you're closer to a super Bowl by trading Julio Jones. Yeah,

1044
00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:25,279
Speaker 2: maybe you'll take some mediocre second round five inter back

1045
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:25,520
Speaker 2: with that.

1046
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:28,120
Speaker 1: That's a tricky good deal, especially you're the twenty eight

1047
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:31,280
Speaker 1: three team, and there needs to be in my opinion

1048
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:32,600
Speaker 1: as a sports fan.

1049
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 2: Okay, you're six this year, like you can have value

1050
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:38,960
Speaker 2: of having some fun and watching a for mixture.

1051
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:41,840
Speaker 1: Perfect example, the Knicks have not won an NBA title

1052
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:47,240
Speaker 1: since nineteen seventy three, I believe, and at some point

1053
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:48,920
Speaker 1: because I went through that in the nineties with the

1054
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:51,240
Speaker 1: Knicks and into the two thousands, a lot of great teams,

1055
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:53,280
Speaker 1: a lot of fun seasons, a lot of great memories

1056
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:55,880
Speaker 1: of watching the games with my friends and families. You know,

1057
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:59,760
Speaker 1: Alan Houston's roller against Miami, Larry Johnson's four point play,

1058
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:02,360
Speaker 1: Patrick Ewings put back to put them in the finals

1059
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 1: in ninety four. But at some point you got to

1060
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:06,960
Speaker 1: get over the hump and you gotta win one.

1061
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 2: And what does that have to do. In the meantime,

1062
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:11,320
Speaker 2: let's be entertaining.

1063
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 1: That winning a super Bowl is not that important. That's

1064
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:17,880
Speaker 1: that was all that it's important.

1065
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:21,200
Speaker 3: You're making the point that entertaining sports teams are more

1066
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:23,200
Speaker 3: enjoyable than those that don't entertain.

1067
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:24,759
Speaker 4: Okay, I'll accept that.

1068
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:27,240
Speaker 2: Saying there's a lot of value in sports of teams

1069
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:30,359
Speaker 2: that don't win the Super Bowl. You're TELLINGSA, what are

1070
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:32,960
Speaker 2: we doing here? Then we're all miserable. Thirty one out

1071
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:35,759
Speaker 2: of thirty two fan bases like thought that whole exercise

1072
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:36,719
Speaker 2: is pointless every year.

1073
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 3: But the PSA is coming from someone whose team has

1074
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:42,479
Speaker 3: won like a billion Super Bowls. If it was coming

1075
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:45,040
Speaker 3: from someone that had never experienced that and was saying, look,

1076
00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:47,480
Speaker 3: I'm telling you, it's still so much fun even though

1077
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:49,360
Speaker 3: we've never we're a Jets fan, we've never won the

1078
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:50,400
Speaker 3: Super Bowl in my lifetime.

1079
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:51,839
Speaker 4: I'm having a ball. It's all.

1080
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 3: All that matters is the fact that they're you know,

1081
00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:56,080
Speaker 3: they're entertaining me every Sunday.

1082
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:57,879
Speaker 4: Vaguely. I mean, you have to.

1083
00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:02,400
Speaker 2: Point you're all a team for years. There's value. I

1084
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:03,919
Speaker 2: get what you're saying, or else, what are we doing?

1085
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:07,120
Speaker 2: You've just if the whole point is super Bowl or nothing,

1086
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:09,120
Speaker 2: you've just wasted like thirty years.

1087
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:11,520
Speaker 3: You know, it's a little bit rugged of a point

1088
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:14,200
Speaker 3: to make about Falcons fans that's all of them specifically

1089
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:16,399
Speaker 3: that they just enjoy I think I.

1090
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:17,520
Speaker 4: Think it's back and enjoy it.

1091
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:20,680
Speaker 2: But Falcons fans are loyal, like they've been through it all,

1092
00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:22,719
Speaker 2: and I think I think they would I think they

1093
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 2: would agree with this on some level because they have

1094
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 2: had these really entertaining teams that have made impact. I

1095
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:32,360
Speaker 2: would throw the twenty three team unfortunately in there, like

1096
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 2: the Dion teams and victims that you know, they had

1097
00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:37,520
Speaker 2: their moment. It was fun even if they didn't win

1098
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:37,799
Speaker 2: it all.

1099
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 1: Listen, you didn't get that Super Bowl victory, but you

1100
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:42,839
Speaker 1: had the too legit to quid era Falcon fans.

1101
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:45,800
Speaker 2: So dirty birds. You know that was a fun dance,

1102
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:47,359
Speaker 2: all right.

1103
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:52,439
Speaker 1: The letter oh for o Tani hit it Ricky, Oh

1104
00:53:52,480 --> 00:54:00,120
Speaker 1: my goodness, Oh my goodness, show Hellani, what show hey,

1105
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 1: show time all the time. That's a ninety four fastball.

1106
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:06,200
Speaker 1: Try to sneak it each side.

1107
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:09,640
Speaker 2: Don't try to speak a fastball and against show hey Otani.

1108
00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:16,200
Speaker 1: While while we as a sports culture right now obsess

1109
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:22,440
Speaker 1: about Aaron Rodgers's future even though there's nothing really to

1110
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 1: talk about. And you know, whether the Charlotte Hornets or

1111
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:29,080
Speaker 1: the Celtics make it out of the play in or

1112
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:31,279
Speaker 1: whatever the hell's going on with the NBA right now, Like,

1113
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:35,399
Speaker 1: there is a honest to goodness amazing sports story going

1114
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:38,080
Speaker 1: on in baseball right now. And I know baseball is

1115
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:40,239
Speaker 1: not the national pastime that it used to be, but

1116
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:42,000
Speaker 1: people should plug in if you're actually looking for a

1117
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:45,440
Speaker 1: real sports story. Show Hey, o Tani for the Anaheim

1118
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:50,560
Speaker 1: or Los Angeles Angels is a pitcher and a hitter,

1119
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:53,600
Speaker 1: and a pitcher who's pitching to an ERA near to

1120
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:57,160
Speaker 1: two point one zero and he leads the majors in

1121
00:54:57,239 --> 00:54:59,759
Speaker 1: home runs after that one that he hit last night.

1122
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:03,640
Speaker 1: This is an incredible story. People should pay attention to

1123
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:06,680
Speaker 1: it because it's a Babe ruth In nineteen twenty seven

1124
00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:09,000
Speaker 1: type phenomenon going on. It's never happened. If you don't

1125
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:13,319
Speaker 1: know baseball. You either hit or you pitch. You don't

1126
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:15,360
Speaker 1: do both. You certainly don't do them at the highest

1127
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:17,879
Speaker 1: levels of the sport. It did get me thinking, as

1128
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:22,520
Speaker 1: a transition away from baseball to football, like what would

1129
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:26,759
Speaker 1: the equivalent be in the NFL? And the only thing

1130
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:30,680
Speaker 1: I could come up with is an ace pitcher has

1131
00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:33,920
Speaker 1: equivalent to me the same or similar value to a quarterback.

1132
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:37,560
Speaker 1: And then a feared middle of the order slugger, lefty

1133
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:41,080
Speaker 1: slugger like Otani who hits the living daylights out of

1134
00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:45,680
Speaker 1: the ball. Is like a star cornerback. So a star

1135
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:50,520
Speaker 1: quarterback and cornerback that plays two way football. That's Otanian.

1136
00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:56,560
Speaker 1: Baseball plug in America and maybe the world thoughts.

1137
00:55:57,600 --> 00:56:00,319
Speaker 2: It's bad ass. I mean, it'd be like Chuck ben

1138
00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:03,440
Speaker 2: Eric is sort of famous as the last true two

1139
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:06,120
Speaker 2: way NFL player. You know, back in the day there

1140
00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:08,600
Speaker 2: most of the players were two way players, and he

1141
00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:10,800
Speaker 2: did it at the highest level. He's a Hall of Famer,

1142
00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:15,840
Speaker 2: But that was what was that sixty years ago? It

1143
00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:17,560
Speaker 2: would it would be it would be wild. I do

1144
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:20,160
Speaker 2: wonder if maybe we could we could, uh and you know,

1145
00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:23,000
Speaker 2: find an athlete that would be good enough to even

1146
00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:26,839
Speaker 2: play offense and defense both at at a high enough level. Like,

1147
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:30,000
Speaker 2: is football that specialized where it's that impossible. It doesn't

1148
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:31,919
Speaker 2: seem that impossible to me. I guess it's just where

1149
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:34,880
Speaker 2: wear and tear on your body at like with the

1150
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:36,680
Speaker 2: way how strong people are now.

1151
00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:39,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean football just becomes so specialized because you

1152
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:42,680
Speaker 3: do have that at the high school level, you have

1153
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:45,640
Speaker 3: you have versions little or versions at the college level.

1154
00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:48,640
Speaker 3: But that's just preparing certain players for the pros. I mean,

1155
00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:50,920
Speaker 3: I guess you're if you're looking for like the most

1156
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:52,800
Speaker 3: versatile type weapon.

1157
00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 4: We just talked about them.

1158
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:56,040
Speaker 3: I would look at someone like Dion Sanders, But it's

1159
00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:59,479
Speaker 3: not the same as playing quarterback and cornerback. Like it's

1160
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:02,080
Speaker 3: they just don't allow in that Troy Brown are the

1161
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:03,680
Speaker 3: coolest things that's happened in baseball.

1162
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:06,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is amazing. The closest thing we have in

1163
00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:09,480
Speaker 2: like the last fifteen years is like Troy Brown taking

1164
00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:13,440
Speaker 2: playoff snaps at cornerback for the Patriots, and Julian Edelman

1165
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:17,840
Speaker 2: took some. They didn't try to keep there long. Troy

1166
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:20,520
Speaker 2: Brown did for like a long stretch of a season

1167
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:23,960
Speaker 2: for a playoff team. But that's you know, nothing like

1168
00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:25,120
Speaker 2: the Otani.

1169
00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:27,360
Speaker 1: Thing is just like another I wonder you wouldn't do

1170
00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:29,720
Speaker 1: it obviously, Also for health concerned, you never if you

1171
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:31,840
Speaker 1: had a star quarterback, you're not putting in playing them.

1172
00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:34,720
Speaker 1: You know, eighty snaps on the other side of the ball,

1173
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:37,240
Speaker 1: so we're never going to see it happen. It's totally

1174
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:39,560
Speaker 1: it's an apple and orange situation. But it just did

1175
00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:42,320
Speaker 1: get me thinking the letter p greg.

1176
00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:48,320
Speaker 2: Oh, how about the point after touchdown? That's you know,

1177
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:50,440
Speaker 2: the play where they snapped the ball and they kick

1178
00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:53,320
Speaker 2: it through the up there. It's a worthless play that

1179
00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:57,320
Speaker 2: should be abolished. That's that's the definition in the glossary

1180
00:57:57,520 --> 00:57:57,880
Speaker 2: right there.

1181
00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:00,240
Speaker 1: So lose it entirely, get right. I did not like

1182
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:02,520
Speaker 1: the idea of pushing it back and making it harder,

1183
00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:05,280
Speaker 1: because it's like, oh, let's make the kicker more important,

1184
00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:08,640
Speaker 1: Like I don't need that. So if that's if this

1185
00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:10,960
Speaker 1: is the way it is forever now, where you're losing

1186
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:14,600
Speaker 1: games because the placekicker can't hit a thirty two yard

1187
00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:16,280
Speaker 1: or whatever, it is like, yeah.

1188
00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:18,720
Speaker 2: Right, I need it. You get seven points for the touchdown,

1189
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:21,560
Speaker 2: and if you want, you can go for an extra

1190
00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:24,960
Speaker 2: point that either adds one and makes it eight, you

1191
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:26,840
Speaker 2: know from the two yard line what we call the

1192
00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:29,800
Speaker 2: two point conversion or subtracts one. If you don't get

1193
00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:32,080
Speaker 2: it and you end up with six, that's the way

1194
00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:33,720
Speaker 2: to do it. Just stop wasting our time.

1195
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:36,720
Speaker 4: I'm hooked on the fact that we skip the letter.

1196
00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:40,320
Speaker 2: In you know, the glossaries.

1197
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:43,600
Speaker 4: You know, maybe we don't. Maybe it's neither.

1198
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:47,600
Speaker 1: Let all right, the letter n Mark Sessler.

1199
00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:50,720
Speaker 3: Well, then I'm stuck going twice in a row, which

1200
00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:52,800
Speaker 3: is can concern it, but it's go.

1201
00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:53,640
Speaker 4: I will go.

1202
00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:58,240
Speaker 3: And as for Nelson, comic Quinton the thick bully man

1203
00:58:58,320 --> 00:59:01,360
Speaker 3: who operates as the key to a Colts off sense,

1204
00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:04,880
Speaker 3: sorry offense, determined to keep Carson Wentz from walking into

1205
00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:09,160
Speaker 3: sacks and flicking absurd lobs to the opposite team. Carson's

1206
00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:11,919
Speaker 3: man crush on Quentin will grow weekly as the three

1207
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:15,680
Speaker 3: hundred and thirty pound ruddy faced manchild blows up defenders

1208
00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:19,120
Speaker 3: and offers to crush Greg Rosenthal like a minuscule grape

1209
00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:22,240
Speaker 3: when said blogger fires shots at Wentz inside his Week

1210
00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:24,480
Speaker 3: three debrief.

1211
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:31,120
Speaker 2: The debrief getting in the mix. Nelson is a he

1212
00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:34,120
Speaker 2: is not. He's one of many NFL people I would

1213
00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:35,480
Speaker 2: not want to be on the wrong side of. I

1214
00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:38,680
Speaker 2: feel like he'd be high on that list. You're right,

1215
00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:39,360
Speaker 2: there's a.

1216
00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:41,760
Speaker 1: Very short list of players that are in their twenties

1217
00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:47,360
Speaker 1: right now and are Hall of famers, Like they have

1218
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:49,280
Speaker 1: to maybe put together a few more years, but you

1219
00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:50,680
Speaker 1: just feel like it all they have to do is

1220
00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:55,560
Speaker 1: stay healthy. Aaron Donald's there, Patrick Mahomes is there. I

1221
00:59:55,600 --> 00:59:57,600
Speaker 1: think we're getting to the point where Quentin Nelson on

1222
00:59:57,640 --> 01:00:01,600
Speaker 1: the offensive line is there too, So keep that mind

1223
01:00:01,640 --> 01:00:04,000
Speaker 1: as you bury the Colts America.

1224
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:07,760
Speaker 2: I just want a fast forward of the season, like

1225
01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:10,280
Speaker 2: we're going to bury the Colts so much by mid August,

1226
01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:12,680
Speaker 2: I'll actually flip around and then be high on the Colts.

1227
01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:14,960
Speaker 4: Don't know, of course we will absolutely.

1228
01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:19,800
Speaker 1: Right Mark, since we're already out of order and we're

1229
01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:21,560
Speaker 1: on the Colts, let me do R and then we're

1230
01:00:21,560 --> 01:00:24,680
Speaker 1: going to circle back to Q all right, r in

1231
01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:29,200
Speaker 1: u ke we trust. Let's hear from Frank Reich Ricky.

1232
01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:31,800
Speaker 9: Yeah, I just cringe when I hear stuff like that,

1233
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:34,160
Speaker 9: not that not that a player shouldn't be accountable for

1234
01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:37,440
Speaker 9: poor play on the field, And you know Carson has

1235
01:00:37,480 --> 01:00:39,240
Speaker 9: to answer to that, and he and he has answer

1236
01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:41,919
Speaker 9: to it. And until you get out there and prove

1237
01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:44,600
Speaker 9: otherwise that that's what you live that's what you live with.

1238
01:00:45,120 --> 01:00:48,600
Speaker 9: But you know, I just know that playing the position

1239
01:00:48,640 --> 01:00:50,760
Speaker 9: at quarterback, there's so many factors that go into it.

1240
01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:54,959
Speaker 9: We've talked a lot about why the poor play last year.

1241
01:00:55,920 --> 01:00:58,720
Speaker 9: I'm just very confident that he has a team around him,

1242
01:00:59,120 --> 01:01:01,200
Speaker 9: and it's just I think the culture of fit.

1243
01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:05,800
Speaker 1: You know what. I've been on this, dancing around this,

1244
01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:08,960
Speaker 1: but I will I'm officially going to be the guy

1245
01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:11,320
Speaker 1: in the show that I believe in Frank Reich. In Reich,

1246
01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:15,280
Speaker 1: we trust, he sees something in Carson Wentz. He's succeeded

1247
01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:17,200
Speaker 1: with Wentz in the past, and I think Wentz is

1248
01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:20,640
Speaker 1: gonna work in Indianapolis. And a big part of what

1249
01:01:20,920 --> 01:01:24,040
Speaker 1: part of it is Frank Reich. In Reich we.

1250
01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:27,160
Speaker 4: Trust, well hold on.

1251
01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:30,040
Speaker 3: So, I mean, there's no doubt in Frank Reich. I

1252
01:01:30,040 --> 01:01:31,960
Speaker 3: think he's a great coach, and I think they've got

1253
01:01:31,960 --> 01:01:35,400
Speaker 3: one of the better coach general manager combinations in the AFC,

1254
01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:38,000
Speaker 3: if not the NFL. I mean, and you can jump

1255
01:01:38,040 --> 01:01:41,160
Speaker 3: on the Carson Wentz thing, that's cool, But like we

1256
01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:43,520
Speaker 3: all liked Carson Wentz for a stretch of time too,

1257
01:01:43,560 --> 01:01:45,520
Speaker 3: and last year's not entirely on him.

1258
01:01:45,640 --> 01:01:48,240
Speaker 4: But I thought he lost his way. It's not just

1259
01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:49,640
Speaker 4: the line and just he had.

1260
01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:51,480
Speaker 1: I'm not arguing that, right.

1261
01:01:51,880 --> 01:01:55,439
Speaker 3: Kenny rebounds, sure, But I mean, like I also feel

1262
01:01:55,480 --> 01:01:58,320
Speaker 3: like I'm cool just waiting to see it. I'm not

1263
01:01:58,840 --> 01:02:00,600
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna, you know, trump bit that it's going

1264
01:02:00,680 --> 01:02:03,240
Speaker 3: to happen because I think there are fair questions about him,

1265
01:02:03,240 --> 01:02:06,520
Speaker 3: and this is maybe a little too talk radio we too,

1266
01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:10,240
Speaker 3: but there were whispers tracking Carson Wentz that he just

1267
01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:13,920
Speaker 3: did not fit in with NFL locker room types, that

1268
01:02:13,960 --> 01:02:16,320
Speaker 3: there were some problems there. And so you know, it's

1269
01:02:16,320 --> 01:02:18,240
Speaker 3: a matter of play and a matter of maturity, and

1270
01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:20,160
Speaker 3: like it would be, he's he's a comeback Player of

1271
01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:22,680
Speaker 3: the Year candidate if he does what you say he's

1272
01:02:22,680 --> 01:02:23,040
Speaker 3: going to do.

1273
01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:25,680
Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying. I mean, there's You're right, we

1274
01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:28,920
Speaker 1: have we can't say anything definitively until we see it,

1275
01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:30,840
Speaker 1: but this is what we do for a living, and

1276
01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:35,000
Speaker 1: I'm saying that. I think that I'm still there. I'm

1277
01:02:35,040 --> 01:02:37,280
Speaker 1: on the Wentz wagon. Given the talent is there. I

1278
01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:40,360
Speaker 1: don't think there were theories that the injuries have sapped

1279
01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:43,440
Speaker 1: all his physicalbility. To me, that's all hogwashed. I think

1280
01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:46,000
Speaker 1: he was a guy that lost his way mentally and

1281
01:02:46,080 --> 01:02:48,880
Speaker 1: things snowballed, and the coaching there wasn't able to get

1282
01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:51,640
Speaker 1: him back on track in addition to his own personal struggles.

1283
01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:55,480
Speaker 1: Fresh start reboot behind a really good offensive line and

1284
01:02:55,520 --> 01:02:57,439
Speaker 1: a coach he can trust that knows what he's doing

1285
01:02:57,800 --> 01:02:59,000
Speaker 1: I just think it happened.

1286
01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:01,240
Speaker 3: But Dan, But Dan, like, the one thing that we

1287
01:03:01,440 --> 01:03:04,000
Speaker 3: battled on during the season last year towards the end

1288
01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:07,520
Speaker 3: was that you were not very excited about blaming Doug

1289
01:03:07,560 --> 01:03:08,320
Speaker 3: Peterson either.

1290
01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:10,960
Speaker 4: So I mean, maybe it was just a total breakdown.

1291
01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:14,200
Speaker 4: Maybe it's unfair to blame one person or even two people.

1292
01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:17,000
Speaker 1: I'm not necessarily blaming Doug Peterson because that's a tricky

1293
01:03:17,040 --> 01:03:19,600
Speaker 1: situation when your quarterback goes in the tank. I think

1294
01:03:19,600 --> 01:03:21,800
Speaker 1: he just needs a fresh start. I think it was

1295
01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:24,960
Speaker 1: just very messy the way things ended there. And maybe, yeah,

1296
01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:27,240
Speaker 1: maybe you're right, maybe everyone's right that this is not

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Speaker 1: gonna work.

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Speaker 3: And and see it's a great landing spot. It's one

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Speaker 3: of the better landing spots you could imagine for Carson Wentz,

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Speaker 3: the best.

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Speaker 2: I think that's the best. But I guess my question

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Speaker 2: would be what is what is working? I I never

1303
01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:44,800
Speaker 2: was fully in on Wentz. I remember having this argument

1304
01:03:44,840 --> 01:03:46,920
Speaker 2: and being on the losing side of it when when

1305
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Speaker 2: he was, you know, on his way to maybe winning

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Speaker 2: the MVP because he was not that accurate. He's just

1307
01:03:51,320 --> 01:03:54,920
Speaker 2: not an accurate quarterback. He relies on his athleticism and

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01:03:55,280 --> 01:03:57,919
Speaker 2: physicality and that it's tough because I don't think he's

1309
01:03:58,000 --> 01:04:01,360
Speaker 2: quite there where he's like you know, Lamar or Cam

1310
01:04:01,480 --> 01:04:04,360
Speaker 2: Newton in his prime and you can win with just that.

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Speaker 2: And like, to me, winning would be he has to

1312
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Speaker 2: be better, like, significantly better than Philip Rivers was last year,

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Speaker 2: And to me, that's a high bar. If he slots

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Speaker 2: in like a little you know, around where Rivers was,

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Speaker 2: or maybe a little worse like Okay, it wasn't like

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Speaker 2: a disastrous move for the Colts, but that is that

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Speaker 2: like a huge win. I don't know. I can't imagine

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Speaker 2: that because I believe in Frank Wike so much that

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Speaker 2: if I had to guess, I would put him like

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Speaker 2: where he'd be a little worse than Philip Rivers was

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Speaker 2: last year. But if that's your best case scenario, I'm

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Speaker 2: sure the Colts believe that there is a much better

1323
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Speaker 2: scenario in that, and that's what I doubt.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I think he'll be on the right side of

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01:04:43,560 --> 01:04:47,120
Speaker 1: the Dalton line this season, a guy you could still

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Speaker 1: build around. All right, Mark, let's go back to you. Q.

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Speaker 4: Back to q Q is for Keish.

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Speaker 3: You guys might be a little bit too young to

1329
01:04:57,440 --> 01:05:00,560
Speaker 3: remember the nineteen eighty two smash.

1330
01:05:00,160 --> 01:05:04,200
Speaker 4: Hit book that swept the nation. Real Men Don't Eat Keish.

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Speaker 3: It was a bit of a satire, but it kind

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Speaker 3: of painted satirical essays about what masculinity really means, especially

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Speaker 3: in America. But when I think of masculinity, I think

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Speaker 3: of Ron Rivera. Obviously, I mean a former football player,

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01:05:19,560 --> 01:05:24,480
Speaker 3: Big Burley Man overcame cancer. Is someone that they brought

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01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:26,760
Speaker 3: to an organization that could not have been more troubled

1337
01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:31,320
Speaker 3: that Greg disliked for roughly thirty years with reason to

1338
01:05:31,960 --> 01:05:35,320
Speaker 3: and he has turned it around rather quickly. And when

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Speaker 3: I think of masculinity, I think of their defensive line,

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Speaker 3: and really, after shoring up their left tackle spot with

1341
01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:45,400
Speaker 3: Charles Leno solid enough, their offensive line has become strong.

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Speaker 3: And so they're a team that really is in the

1343
01:05:47,160 --> 01:05:49,760
Speaker 3: image of Ron Rivera, where you're gonna be tough up

1344
01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:52,520
Speaker 3: front on both sides of the ball. And you know,

1345
01:05:52,560 --> 01:05:54,880
Speaker 3: it's easy to look at Washington and say they didn't

1346
01:05:54,920 --> 01:05:58,520
Speaker 3: get a quarterback in the draft, but Ryan Fitzpatrick might

1347
01:05:58,560 --> 01:06:00,120
Speaker 3: be kind of perfect for this for a year, and

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Speaker 3: they can get one down the road, And I look

1349
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Speaker 3: at them as the team in the NFC East if

1350
01:06:05,000 --> 01:06:10,160
Speaker 3: the Cowboys aren't healed on defense as a total juggernaut

1351
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Speaker 3: in terms of their toughness. I don't mean that they're

1352
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Speaker 3: a twelve thirteen win team. I just think that last

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01:06:14,840 --> 01:06:16,480
Speaker 3: year was the first step.

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Speaker 4: It's not the end. It wasn't an aberration.

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Speaker 3: I think they're going to grow more and more into

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01:06:20,760 --> 01:06:22,720
Speaker 3: what Ron Rivera wants and they're not going to be

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Speaker 3: the team that gets beat up on Sundays.

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Speaker 4: They're gonna be throwing the punches, and.

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Speaker 1: They weren't last last year either. I think, you know,

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Speaker 1: I think they're gonna I feel like they could be

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Speaker 1: a nine and eight type team and that might be

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Speaker 1: enough to win the division. I think it's going to

1363
01:06:35,080 --> 01:06:36,840
Speaker 1: be a tightly packed division, and I think you can

1364
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Speaker 1: make a case for any of the teams honestly in

1365
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Speaker 1: the NFC East. I guess I have a bit of

1366
01:06:42,400 --> 01:06:47,800
Speaker 1: a concern that fits in this type of situation. I

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Speaker 1: don't know why. It's nothing more than a hunch that

1368
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Speaker 1: he could struggle, but who knows. Maybe he'll just keep

1369
01:06:53,080 --> 01:06:54,360
Speaker 1: playing like he did the last couple of years. I

1370
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Speaker 1: have no reason to think that he wouldn't. They and

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Speaker 1: they'll make plays on offense, but it'll be an interesting

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Speaker 1: thing team to track.

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Speaker 2: For sure, roster is great. I mean Ron Rivera chose well.

1374
01:07:08,240 --> 01:07:10,520
Speaker 2: Not only did he get all this power and he's

1375
01:07:10,520 --> 01:07:12,880
Speaker 2: not the first coach to try to do this in Washington,

1376
01:07:13,840 --> 01:07:17,320
Speaker 2: so we'll see, but he inherited all those defensive linemen.

1377
01:07:17,960 --> 01:07:19,960
Speaker 2: You know, there's a lot of talent on this roster.

1378
01:07:20,040 --> 01:07:24,080
Speaker 2: That's not like they brought in since Ron Rivera got there.

1379
01:07:24,480 --> 01:07:26,800
Speaker 2: There were players there, and they've done a really good

1380
01:07:26,880 --> 01:07:31,680
Speaker 2: job adding doing the projected starters thing. If Fitzpatrick stays

1381
01:07:31,680 --> 01:07:34,560
Speaker 2: being a like a mid level starting quarterback, that's like

1382
01:07:34,600 --> 01:07:37,640
Speaker 2: a they have an upside. I think that's even higher

1383
01:07:37,840 --> 01:07:39,520
Speaker 2: than you said. I think they have like a twelve

1384
01:07:40,040 --> 01:07:42,160
Speaker 2: twelve win type upside. I think it's good. I like

1385
01:07:42,240 --> 01:07:45,840
Speaker 2: the Rivera the way you used him as like a

1386
01:07:45,920 --> 01:07:49,200
Speaker 2: man's man. He is kind of the equivalent to Mike

1387
01:07:49,280 --> 01:07:50,960
Speaker 2: Tomlin to me, a leader.

1388
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Speaker 1: Yea.

1389
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Speaker 2: Everyone wants to play for him, and I think brings

1390
01:07:55,360 --> 01:07:59,800
Speaker 2: stability and maybe right really raises their floor, which we saw.

1391
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Speaker 3: I would say they did bring in one person in

1392
01:08:02,720 --> 01:08:05,480
Speaker 3: Chase Young, who is like the love child of like

1393
01:08:05,560 --> 01:08:07,120
Speaker 3: Beyonce and Cony and the Barbarian.

1394
01:08:07,160 --> 01:08:09,320
Speaker 4: I mean, he's like a tipping point guy for that defense.

1395
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Speaker 2: Good point, yeah, good point.

1396
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Speaker 4: S g.

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Speaker 2: Oh that's me again. Yeah, oh wait, I don't know

1398
01:08:17,040 --> 01:08:17,719
Speaker 2: the whole alphabet.

1399
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Speaker 1: Every time.

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Speaker 2: Every time you're confused, I'm gonna go. Seahawks defense a

1401
01:08:24,760 --> 01:08:30,400
Speaker 2: once historic group that has now been mediocre for almost

1402
01:08:30,439 --> 01:08:34,640
Speaker 2: as long as it was historic. Under the radar, I

1403
01:08:34,640 --> 01:08:38,200
Speaker 2: mean they made he made his reputation on defense, Pete Carroll.

1404
01:08:38,439 --> 01:08:40,280
Speaker 2: I went back and looked at the dv AWA. They

1405
01:08:40,280 --> 01:08:44,759
Speaker 2: have that top fourteenth in four seasons. Been in fourteen,

1406
01:08:45,240 --> 01:08:47,200
Speaker 2: you know, they were below average and three out of

1407
01:08:47,200 --> 01:08:50,120
Speaker 2: the four. So it's like, let's see it. It's it's

1408
01:08:50,200 --> 01:08:52,400
Speaker 2: been a while now. They're always like, oh, this isn't

1409
01:08:52,439 --> 01:08:54,360
Speaker 2: the legion of Boom anywhere. It's like it's been like

1410
01:08:54,439 --> 01:08:56,360
Speaker 2: five years since since that was the case.

1411
01:08:56,400 --> 01:09:01,360
Speaker 1: So I guess, yeah. The case here and they didn't

1412
01:09:01,400 --> 01:09:03,040
Speaker 1: have a first round pick this year or next year

1413
01:09:03,280 --> 01:09:07,080
Speaker 1: is they've had now a long enough time gestation period

1414
01:09:07,120 --> 01:09:09,880
Speaker 1: to build the next quality defense since the lesion of

1415
01:09:09,920 --> 01:09:14,160
Speaker 1: Boom and they just didn't do it, which makes a

1416
01:09:14,200 --> 01:09:16,320
Speaker 1: bit of a liability and it puts more pressure on

1417
01:09:16,360 --> 01:09:19,479
Speaker 1: the offense to the fire on all cylinders, which it

1418
01:09:19,520 --> 01:09:22,320
Speaker 1: doesn't always do, at least it didn't last season, and

1419
01:09:22,640 --> 01:09:23,559
Speaker 1: that that cost them.

1420
01:09:23,640 --> 01:09:25,920
Speaker 2: Football is hard. It's like it almost impossible to keep

1421
01:09:25,960 --> 01:09:28,320
Speaker 2: a defense. I'm not even totally blaming. I mean Belichick

1422
01:09:28,360 --> 01:09:31,120
Speaker 2: had a very similar career path where that was a

1423
01:09:31,160 --> 01:09:34,000
Speaker 2: historic Patriots defense for four or five years, and they've

1424
01:09:34,200 --> 01:09:36,839
Speaker 2: they've popped up here and there over the last fifteen.

1425
01:09:36,920 --> 01:09:39,840
Speaker 2: But it's like there's a reason why it's historic, Like

1426
01:09:40,080 --> 01:09:43,200
Speaker 2: usually it's not. If it's everything coming together. It's not

1427
01:09:43,320 --> 01:09:45,479
Speaker 2: just good coaching. I don't I think he's a good coach,

1428
01:09:45,840 --> 01:09:48,400
Speaker 2: but it has not come together. And that's that's the reason.

1429
01:09:48,600 --> 01:09:51,760
Speaker 2: That's the biggest reason I think Russell Wilson hasn't you know,

1430
01:09:51,800 --> 01:09:54,080
Speaker 2: advanced further in the playoffs the last few years.

1431
01:09:54,160 --> 01:09:56,400
Speaker 3: I did find it interesting last week that Richard Sherman

1432
01:09:56,520 --> 01:09:58,559
Speaker 3: or maybe it was two weeks ago, said that he

1433
01:09:58,600 --> 01:10:00,599
Speaker 3: would go back to Seeattle. I mean, I get he's

1434
01:10:00,640 --> 01:10:02,400
Speaker 3: looking for work, so there's that part of it, but

1435
01:10:02,800 --> 01:10:05,320
Speaker 3: it was this whole like, hey, these players just don't

1436
01:10:05,320 --> 01:10:08,840
Speaker 3: believe in Pete Carroll's culture anymore, and well what happens

1437
01:10:08,880 --> 01:10:09,840
Speaker 3: to that if you go back?

1438
01:10:09,880 --> 01:10:13,080
Speaker 4: But I need the culture thing I bought into he.

1439
01:10:13,080 --> 01:10:15,160
Speaker 2: Needs a job and they would fit in well they

1440
01:10:15,200 --> 01:10:17,280
Speaker 2: could use. That's a shot a shot.

1441
01:10:17,520 --> 01:10:19,559
Speaker 1: And also, you know, did they go twelve and four

1442
01:10:19,680 --> 01:10:22,599
Speaker 1: last year? The culture can't be too rough now.

1443
01:10:22,640 --> 01:10:25,599
Speaker 2: The culture I think is good. It just if they

1444
01:10:25,640 --> 01:10:28,200
Speaker 2: could one of these years suddenly spike up. They do

1445
01:10:28,240 --> 01:10:31,280
Speaker 2: have some talent this year and suddenly spike up and

1446
01:10:31,360 --> 01:10:33,639
Speaker 2: get a top five or six defense, then that's the year.

1447
01:10:33,720 --> 01:10:35,840
Speaker 2: I think, you know, they can make it to the

1448
01:10:35,880 --> 01:10:36,400
Speaker 2: super Bowl.

1449
01:10:36,880 --> 01:10:39,280
Speaker 1: All right, Mark, as we start to bring it in

1450
01:10:39,320 --> 01:10:39,960
Speaker 1: for a landing.

1451
01:10:41,600 --> 01:10:46,160
Speaker 3: The letter T all right T T is for Trafalgar

1452
01:10:46,280 --> 01:10:50,360
Speaker 3: Square in the city of Westminster and central London. All

1453
01:10:50,400 --> 01:10:54,720
Speaker 3: I want to know is if I and we are

1454
01:10:54,920 --> 01:10:58,120
Speaker 3: stepping foot in Trafalgar Square in the next calendar year,

1455
01:10:58,520 --> 01:11:01,439
Speaker 3: it confirms our wishes to be in London. We will

1456
01:11:01,479 --> 01:11:04,519
Speaker 3: be watching probably the Jets and Falcons if we have

1457
01:11:04,600 --> 01:11:07,080
Speaker 3: our way, I just you know we're gonna spice a

1458
01:11:07,080 --> 01:11:09,240
Speaker 3: little few pitches in here in the middle of the show.

1459
01:11:09,280 --> 01:11:10,040
Speaker 4: I want it to happen.

1460
01:11:10,080 --> 01:11:13,360
Speaker 3: I want to be having cocktails with handsome Hank and

1461
01:11:13,360 --> 01:11:16,920
Speaker 3: Neil Reynolds and talking to British fanatics. And if they

1462
01:11:16,920 --> 01:11:19,639
Speaker 3: don't send us, I will alert the company that I'm

1463
01:11:19,640 --> 01:11:22,920
Speaker 3: going to go anyways, I'll take a seafaring boat and

1464
01:11:23,000 --> 01:11:25,760
Speaker 3: you know, super dull week eight on my own and

1465
01:11:26,640 --> 01:11:29,479
Speaker 3: living like Kate Winslet's flat with her drinking rich wines

1466
01:11:29,640 --> 01:11:33,559
Speaker 3: and eating meats.

1467
01:11:33,960 --> 01:11:36,559
Speaker 4: I'll change everything about that.

1468
01:11:38,200 --> 01:11:41,599
Speaker 1: Not a factor and Mark's wife. You know. I got

1469
01:11:41,600 --> 01:11:45,839
Speaker 1: a call from a Shadowy League figure on Saturday morning.

1470
01:11:45,840 --> 01:11:48,360
Speaker 1: I was in the middle of my son's little league game,

1471
01:11:48,520 --> 01:11:52,840
Speaker 1: for which I'm an assistant coach for the team, and

1472
01:11:54,280 --> 01:11:57,560
Speaker 1: he said hashtag. I answered the phone. He said, hashtag

1473
01:11:58,000 --> 01:12:03,280
Speaker 1: get ATN to Culver City. Hashtag get ATN to Englewood,

1474
01:12:03,520 --> 01:12:06,080
Speaker 1: because that's the only places you're going, referring to our

1475
01:12:06,120 --> 01:12:08,799
Speaker 1: former office in our future office.

1476
01:12:09,760 --> 01:12:11,800
Speaker 4: Wait, a very high ranking.

1477
01:12:12,200 --> 01:12:13,680
Speaker 2: I will say we can beat this out.

1478
01:12:14,200 --> 01:12:20,479
Speaker 1: Was it yes? Okay, to which I say, hogwash. We

1479
01:12:20,520 --> 01:12:25,680
Speaker 1: will not be denied. Shadowy League figures will listen to

1480
01:12:25,760 --> 01:12:29,360
Speaker 1: us because we will continue the fight to get back

1481
01:12:29,360 --> 01:12:32,479
Speaker 1: to London. We will charm the pants off these people

1482
01:12:32,479 --> 01:12:35,599
Speaker 1: if necessary. They might not even have pants song because

1483
01:12:35,600 --> 01:12:39,360
Speaker 1: they're working remotely, but we will work and do everything

1484
01:12:39,400 --> 01:12:41,600
Speaker 1: in our power on this side to get back to

1485
01:12:41,720 --> 01:12:42,360
Speaker 1: that side.

1486
01:12:42,880 --> 01:12:45,679
Speaker 4: And by the way, hashtag back to Culver City.

1487
01:12:46,080 --> 01:12:48,439
Speaker 3: You will have to kidnap me in the middle of

1488
01:12:48,520 --> 01:12:51,679
Speaker 3: the night in like a sack and take me off

1489
01:12:51,720 --> 01:12:53,400
Speaker 3: and punch me out to get me to Culver City.

1490
01:12:53,400 --> 01:12:55,120
Speaker 3: I'll never step foot in that office ever again.

1491
01:12:56,760 --> 01:12:59,960
Speaker 1: The letter you for, well, Ricky, play it.

1492
01:13:00,400 --> 01:13:07,759
Speaker 7: So what you're telling me is that UFOs unidentified flying

1493
01:13:07,840 --> 01:13:09,200
Speaker 7: objects are real.

1494
01:13:10,479 --> 01:13:12,080
Speaker 1: Bill, I think we're beyond that already.

1495
01:13:12,240 --> 01:13:14,599
Speaker 9: The government has already stated for the record that they're real.

1496
01:13:14,720 --> 01:13:16,720
Speaker 1: I'm not telling you that the United States government is

1497
01:13:16,720 --> 01:13:18,960
Speaker 1: telling you that sixty Minutes is one of the most

1498
01:13:19,000 --> 01:13:24,799
Speaker 1: respected news programs and journalistic beacons on television in American

1499
01:13:24,800 --> 01:13:30,559
Speaker 1: and it's been that way for decades. That gentleman is

1500
01:13:31,200 --> 01:13:38,040
Speaker 1: Luis Elizondo, who spent twenty years running military intelligence operations worldwide,

1501
01:13:39,080 --> 01:13:44,280
Speaker 1: and then he eventually moved on to covering unidentified aerial

1502
01:13:44,360 --> 01:13:48,240
Speaker 1: phenomenon UAPs, which is another kind of like the updated

1503
01:13:48,280 --> 01:13:52,360
Speaker 1: way of saying UFOs. And when this man who's now

1504
01:13:52,360 --> 01:13:54,360
Speaker 1: a civilian, so he's out of it, but this stuff

1505
01:13:54,400 --> 01:13:58,080
Speaker 1: is declassified, and Mark, I'm talking to you, buddy, This

1506
01:13:58,120 --> 01:14:03,720
Speaker 1: stuff is declassified. When this high ranking former military personnel

1507
01:14:03,760 --> 01:14:07,439
Speaker 1: figure is on national television in primetime on Sunday night

1508
01:14:07,560 --> 01:14:11,400
Speaker 1: on CBS on sixty minutes, telling the American public there

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Speaker 1: are UFOs out there. We don't know where they're coming from,

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Speaker 1: if they're from this planet or another, but there is

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01:14:17,960 --> 01:14:22,680
Speaker 1: absolutely spacecraft that we cannot explain and we don't know

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01:14:22,720 --> 01:14:26,840
Speaker 1: what to do with when we do see it. That

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01:14:27,000 --> 01:14:28,599
Speaker 1: is kind of under the radar.

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Speaker 3: I think it's because, first of all, this is this report.

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01:14:34,840 --> 01:14:38,680
Speaker 3: This interview mimics so many other reports that have been

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01:14:38,720 --> 01:14:41,439
Speaker 3: going on a for years and years and years. But

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Speaker 3: if you want to talk about like government reports and pilots,

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01:14:45,880 --> 01:14:49,160
Speaker 3: military pilots coming forward with stuff, this is not new

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01:14:49,280 --> 01:14:52,040
Speaker 3: except it there has not been the tipping point I

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01:14:52,080 --> 01:14:55,120
Speaker 3: think where it's still seen as something other than an oddity.

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01:14:55,160 --> 01:14:57,080
Speaker 3: Even in that interview, if you listen to the whole thing,

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Speaker 3: the sixty minutes guy does the very normal things like

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01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:04,280
Speaker 3: sounds absolutely crazy to comprehend. It's like, but it's not

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01:15:04,520 --> 01:15:07,800
Speaker 3: like I'm kind of surprised that you're a newsman if

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01:15:07,840 --> 01:15:09,679
Speaker 3: you're open minded and tracking like.

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Speaker 4: The swell of a story.

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Speaker 3: This has been going on for a really long time,

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01:15:14,680 --> 01:15:18,040
Speaker 3: and it's just that we, I think, live in such

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01:15:18,840 --> 01:15:22,000
Speaker 3: a period of mental frazzle, and the last years been

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01:15:22,000 --> 01:15:24,679
Speaker 3: so crazy that it barely breaks headline stacks.

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Speaker 4: But it's real. I don't think it's.

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Speaker 3: You're not a looney bin to suggest that anymore, because

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01:15:30,120 --> 01:15:33,680
Speaker 3: it's not coming from you know, people on crack websites.

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01:15:33,760 --> 01:15:36,840
Speaker 3: It's coming from military and ex military, and it has

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Speaker 3: been for decades.

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Speaker 1: There's another Navy pilot, a Navy crew Knox using the

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01:15:42,320 --> 01:15:48,800
Speaker 1: Air Force pilot where they saw a vehicle or a

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01:15:49,120 --> 01:15:52,680
Speaker 1: unidentified object that looked like a tic tac that was

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01:15:52,760 --> 01:15:56,479
Speaker 1: moving almost at the speed of sound and had no

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01:15:56,560 --> 01:15:59,720
Speaker 1: propulsion mechanisms. There locked radar on it. It went right

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01:15:59,760 --> 01:16:02,760
Speaker 1: up to disappeared. These things are saying, Craig. These things

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01:16:02,800 --> 01:16:05,920
Speaker 1: are being said matter of factly. What's going on now

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01:16:06,040 --> 01:16:11,240
Speaker 1: could be military intelligence from other countries in the world, China, Russia, whomever,

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01:16:11,479 --> 01:16:14,599
Speaker 1: that are spying on us off the coast of our country.

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Speaker 1: What if it's not, Greg, I want your take.

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Speaker 2: It's been a strong five years. I agree with everything

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01:16:21,160 --> 01:16:25,720
Speaker 2: Mark was saying that it's sort of been underplayed in

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01:16:25,800 --> 01:16:28,640
Speaker 2: terms of like the news developments in this area. So

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01:16:28,840 --> 01:16:32,559
Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to doing our UFO podcast when we're

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01:16:32,600 --> 01:16:35,519
Speaker 2: in our seventies, what rich material we might have by

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01:16:35,600 --> 01:16:37,880
Speaker 2: then if it's popped. This much is popping up now,

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01:16:37,960 --> 01:16:38,160
Speaker 2: you know.

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01:16:39,120 --> 01:16:42,280
Speaker 1: I seriously I recommend look it up on YouTube. The

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01:16:42,320 --> 01:16:46,840
Speaker 1: whole segment of the sixty minutes on UAPs is up.

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01:16:46,920 --> 01:16:49,880
Speaker 1: Check it out V greg V all.

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Speaker 2: Right, victory formation, this alignment once a game's outcome is

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01:16:56,760 --> 01:17:01,840
Speaker 2: in doubt, which should be executed by Tom Brady no

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01:17:02,000 --> 01:17:04,519
Speaker 2: less than twelve times before the end of the twenty

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01:17:04,640 --> 01:17:08,960
Speaker 2: twenty one There's no excuses, all right. I really think

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01:17:09,000 --> 01:17:13,280
Speaker 2: this team other than like injury catastrophe, there's no reason

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Speaker 2: for them not to.

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Speaker 1: Let me play. Gregel's advocate here. Yeah, is it perhaps

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01:17:18,600 --> 01:17:24,000
Speaker 1: two pat too, Gregor's advocate. That's pretty good, But is

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01:17:24,040 --> 01:17:26,320
Speaker 1: it a little two path for us to just pencil

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01:17:26,400 --> 01:17:30,320
Speaker 1: in this team coming off a Super Bowl win? A

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01:17:30,320 --> 01:17:32,360
Speaker 1: lot of teams have struggled in the aftermath of that.

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01:17:33,760 --> 01:17:35,719
Speaker 1: I'm not even gonna throw in that the quarterback's turning

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01:17:35,760 --> 01:17:37,920
Speaker 1: forty four this summer, because that just seems absurd to

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01:17:38,320 --> 01:17:41,920
Speaker 1: bang on that at this point, but it's true, and

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01:17:42,080 --> 01:17:44,520
Speaker 1: say they're not going to encounter any of the turbulence

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01:17:44,560 --> 01:17:47,920
Speaker 1: that so often hits defending champs. I agree with you

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01:17:47,960 --> 01:17:50,759
Speaker 1: on the surface, but maybe we're going to like jinx

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01:17:50,800 --> 01:17:53,800
Speaker 1: this into existence some type of bizarre nine to eight

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01:17:54,720 --> 01:17:55,519
Speaker 1: breakdown for them.

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Speaker 2: You're right, we've watched the NFL enough to like know

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01:18:00,360 --> 01:18:02,880
Speaker 2: how possible that is. That. That said, like the good

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01:18:02,880 --> 01:18:07,160
Speaker 2: teams lately have stayed pretty chalk like the ones at

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01:18:07,160 --> 01:18:08,840
Speaker 2: the you know at the beginning of the season that

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01:18:08,880 --> 01:18:11,800
Speaker 2: you thought were the very very best are usually there

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01:18:12,680 --> 01:18:15,080
Speaker 2: at the end. I just other than injuries, and they

1581
01:18:15,080 --> 01:18:17,400
Speaker 2: were pretty lucky with injuries last year. So if they

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01:18:17,400 --> 01:18:19,479
Speaker 2: got hurt in the secondary of the offensive line or

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01:18:19,520 --> 01:18:22,280
Speaker 2: certainly Brady things that, then all bets are off. But

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Speaker 2: I don't know, I just don't see it. It's not

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01:18:24,720 --> 01:18:28,639
Speaker 2: just like they bring all the starters back, but it's like, okay,

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01:18:28,680 --> 01:18:31,760
Speaker 2: you're you've got like O. J. Howard and Gronk and

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01:18:31,800 --> 01:18:34,280
Speaker 2: Cameron Braid to choose from. You know, you just got

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01:18:34,320 --> 01:18:37,280
Speaker 2: depth at all these positions. They're just there's no logical reason.

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Speaker 2: I thought they were unlucky in the regular season last

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01:18:39,640 --> 01:18:42,240
Speaker 2: year to only win eleven games. It's not like they

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01:18:42,439 --> 01:18:44,200
Speaker 2: snuck into the playoffs. In my mind, they were a

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01:18:44,200 --> 01:18:48,599
Speaker 2: pretty good team. There's just not any logical reason. Say

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01:18:48,680 --> 01:18:49,559
Speaker 2: logical reasons.

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01:18:50,240 --> 01:18:53,080
Speaker 3: I think the idea that they'd win twelve games out

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01:18:53,080 --> 01:18:57,840
Speaker 3: of a seventeen game slate is not I have no

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01:18:57,880 --> 01:19:00,479
Speaker 3: problem with that at all, thirteen fourteen even, But you

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01:19:00,600 --> 01:19:02,320
Speaker 3: just look at last year's Chiefs that if one thing

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01:19:02,360 --> 01:19:04,360
Speaker 3: goes wrong, I mean, their goal is to go back

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01:19:04,360 --> 01:19:07,360
Speaker 3: to back, which hasn't happened for anyone but Brady since

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01:19:07,400 --> 01:19:08,920
Speaker 3: two thousand and three, two thousand and four. I mean,

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01:19:08,920 --> 01:19:11,800
Speaker 3: it's just nearly It's a tall order, but I don't

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01:19:11,800 --> 01:19:13,680
Speaker 3: think they're going to fall off a cliff, especially if

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01:19:13,720 --> 01:19:15,800
Speaker 3: the Saints are the team that falls off a cliff

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01:19:15,840 --> 01:19:16,439
Speaker 3: in that division.

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01:19:17,080 --> 01:19:19,200
Speaker 1: All right, up next, w Mark.

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01:19:20,680 --> 01:19:24,280
Speaker 3: W Is for what what do you charge Houston Texans

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01:19:24,320 --> 01:19:29,759
Speaker 3: fans for season tickets? Five cents, twelve cents, sixty six cents,

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01:19:29,920 --> 01:19:33,400
Speaker 3: maybe seventy one eighty two, ninety three cents, one dollar

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01:19:33,479 --> 01:19:37,200
Speaker 3: and four cents one dollar, twenty nine cents. It's getting

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01:19:37,280 --> 01:19:39,920
Speaker 3: up there. Find your price point, easter Be.

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01:19:40,840 --> 01:19:42,080
Speaker 1: It's a buyer's market.

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01:19:43,080 --> 01:19:46,000
Speaker 2: It's a tough stit down there. There was such good fans too.

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01:19:46,200 --> 01:19:48,519
Speaker 2: I mean, I know there's a lot of great fan bases,

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01:19:48,880 --> 01:19:52,880
Speaker 2: but I don't think Houston gets mentioned early in that

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01:19:53,000 --> 01:19:56,360
Speaker 2: the second they came back as an expansion team, they

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01:19:56,400 --> 01:19:58,840
Speaker 2: filled that place up. It is a loud stadium. I

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01:19:58,880 --> 01:20:02,080
Speaker 2: was there for the playoff win. It was like deafening

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01:20:02,200 --> 01:20:05,000
Speaker 2: and like they have loved their football, whether they're bad

1619
01:20:05,200 --> 01:20:08,280
Speaker 2: or good, and yeah, this this offseason is testing them.

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01:20:08,320 --> 01:20:10,640
Speaker 2: I would be surprised, Like it wouldn't be surprising if

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01:20:10,680 --> 01:20:12,559
Speaker 2: they struggled to sell out and all that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I've said it before in the show, the

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01:20:14,920 --> 01:20:18,080
Speaker 1: Houston Astros would to disgrace that franchise. What they did.

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01:20:18,360 --> 01:20:21,280
Speaker 1: They cheated out right and shouldn't have been given the

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01:20:21,360 --> 01:20:24,360
Speaker 1: right to call themselves a World Series champion. But take

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Speaker 1: that out of it. Otherwise, the teams the sports town.

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01:20:28,600 --> 01:20:34,040
Speaker 1: You go across the spectrum, whether it's baseball, basketball, football,

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01:20:34,120 --> 01:20:36,760
Speaker 1: it's a great sports town and you just whether no

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01:20:36,800 --> 01:20:39,439
Speaker 1: matter what city it is like when a team really

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01:20:39,479 --> 01:20:43,120
Speaker 1: goes this deep into the darkness, you just feel for

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01:20:43,160 --> 01:20:43,599
Speaker 1: the fans.

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01:20:44,080 --> 01:20:46,160
Speaker 2: It just made me realize that the Rockets are the

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01:20:46,160 --> 01:20:48,839
Speaker 2: worst team in the NBA. They didn't end up winning

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01:20:49,640 --> 01:20:53,320
Speaker 2: with that entire Darryl Moury Hardened era, which was they

1635
01:20:53,320 --> 01:20:56,559
Speaker 2: got so close and we're heartbreaking and this Texans at

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01:20:56,560 --> 01:20:58,800
Speaker 2: the same time, and the shame of the Astros. It's

1637
01:20:58,840 --> 01:20:59,720
Speaker 2: a tough spot right now.

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01:20:59,760 --> 01:21:00,800
Speaker 1: For it's tough.

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01:21:00,840 --> 01:21:04,200
Speaker 3: Well, I mean just like the older fans remember the

1640
01:21:04,240 --> 01:21:07,760
Speaker 3: Houston Oilers and Chris Wrestling wrote the incredible Love You Blue.

1641
01:21:07,800 --> 01:21:10,599
Speaker 3: I mean that fan base in the old House of Pain.

1642
01:21:11,120 --> 01:21:13,719
Speaker 3: There was nothing like that in the NFL. That stadium

1643
01:21:13,800 --> 01:21:16,320
Speaker 3: was insane and there is a lot of carryover to

1644
01:21:16,479 --> 01:21:19,640
Speaker 3: Texans fans today and I just find it. Dan, you

1645
01:21:19,680 --> 01:21:22,559
Speaker 3: mentioned the fact that, like the Texans fans, how can

1646
01:21:22,600 --> 01:21:25,880
Speaker 3: you take a stand? It's hard to because it's like

1647
01:21:26,000 --> 01:21:28,080
Speaker 3: your team at the same time. But it is one

1648
01:21:28,080 --> 01:21:33,000
Speaker 3: of the more complex, anxiety ridden US encounters between ownership

1649
01:21:33,040 --> 01:21:34,519
Speaker 3: and fans in the NFL today.

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01:21:34,560 --> 01:21:35,839
Speaker 4: There's nothing quite.

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01:21:35,600 --> 01:21:38,960
Speaker 1: As Sean Watson thing, which is not on the team.

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01:21:39,120 --> 01:21:42,960
Speaker 1: It's this whole separate thing, and it hangs over everything

1653
01:21:42,960 --> 01:21:44,160
Speaker 1: with that organization, all.

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01:21:44,160 --> 01:21:46,960
Speaker 2: Right, hangs over the league. It's been on it's been

1655
01:21:47,000 --> 01:21:49,400
Speaker 2: on my mind too, that like, we're just assuming that

1656
01:21:49,479 --> 01:21:53,080
Speaker 2: Deshaun Watson will play in the NFL this year, but

1657
01:21:53,479 --> 01:21:55,599
Speaker 2: we gotta we don't know what's gonna happen with that.

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01:21:56,120 --> 01:22:00,200
Speaker 1: The letter X thrown up the ax. Does Bryant just

1659
01:22:00,280 --> 01:22:03,920
Speaker 1: one former star still without work his offseason workouts approach

1660
01:22:03,960 --> 01:22:08,280
Speaker 1: across the league. Here's some other name brands, Todd Gurley,

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01:22:08,360 --> 01:22:11,960
Speaker 1: Le'Veon Bell, Melvin Ingram Mallie Cooker. Maybe I missed one

1662
01:22:11,960 --> 01:22:14,400
Speaker 1: of these. Let me know if I did. Danny Amandola,

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01:22:14,720 --> 01:22:17,839
Speaker 1: maybe not a star, but Ricky loves him, Geno Atkins, Alshon,

1664
01:22:17,920 --> 01:22:22,680
Speaker 1: Jeffery Justin Houston, Earl Thomas, the aforementioned Richard Sherman. A

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01:22:22,720 --> 01:22:25,840
Speaker 1: lot of name brands out there, and a lot of

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01:22:25,880 --> 01:22:27,800
Speaker 1: them that I just mentioned they're going to find a home,

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01:22:27,880 --> 01:22:30,320
Speaker 1: but some of them won't. And I just thought that

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01:22:30,360 --> 01:22:33,479
Speaker 1: was worthy mentioning. There you go. X.

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01:22:34,200 --> 01:22:39,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, Des wasn't pleased that Tim Tebow got a contract before.

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01:22:39,200 --> 01:22:41,720
Speaker 1: Him does he got to make a play in the

1671
01:22:41,760 --> 01:22:43,840
Speaker 1: last five years before he complains about anything. I mean,

1672
01:22:43,880 --> 01:22:46,400
Speaker 1: you know that record, but what's that?

1673
01:22:46,960 --> 01:22:49,360
Speaker 4: You know that Des Bryant was agitated.

1674
01:22:49,520 --> 01:22:52,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, he tweeted about it real or was quoted about it. Yeah,

1675
01:22:52,560 --> 01:22:53,360
Speaker 2: he was like, come.

1676
01:22:53,280 --> 01:22:54,960
Speaker 3: On, well, I got on a lot of people's radars

1677
01:22:54,960 --> 01:22:57,479
Speaker 3: for a lot of a lot of reasons.

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01:22:57,520 --> 01:23:00,040
Speaker 2: That's maybe not the best example of that because it

1679
01:23:00,240 --> 01:23:04,120
Speaker 2: was surprising when he was getting thrown pretty you know,

1680
01:23:04,320 --> 01:23:09,160
Speaker 2: key passes in important spots during the Ravens late playoff

1681
01:23:09,240 --> 01:23:11,880
Speaker 2: run or to the playoffs, and even even got some

1682
01:23:11,920 --> 01:23:14,800
Speaker 2: snaps in the playoffs. That was a bit of a surprise.

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01:23:14,960 --> 01:23:17,200
Speaker 1: No wonder the Ravens redid their wide receiver group the

1684
01:23:17,280 --> 01:23:22,720
Speaker 1: letter why we throw it to Ricky Hollywood, the.

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01:23:22,720 --> 01:23:26,040
Speaker 6: Letter why why are we still in.

1686
01:23:26,000 --> 01:23:30,240
Speaker 5: The show and it's been like an hour and a half.

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01:23:31,439 --> 01:23:33,479
Speaker 1: You do it, Ricky? How are you able to be

1688
01:23:33,560 --> 01:23:36,120
Speaker 1: the producer of this show? It must be so hard

1689
01:23:36,120 --> 01:23:37,080
Speaker 1: for you to do what you do.

1690
01:23:38,240 --> 01:23:40,320
Speaker 6: It is really really hard.

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01:23:40,960 --> 01:23:43,960
Speaker 2: Hey, I'll throw one out here. How about Isaac Yadam?

1692
01:23:45,400 --> 01:23:51,160
Speaker 2: Why Adm Yadam? Kama Isaac? On Sunday Morning, Stationed twenty

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01:23:51,280 --> 01:23:56,439
Speaker 2: nine of a local New York firefighting department responded to

1694
01:23:56,520 --> 01:24:01,040
Speaker 2: a request from Yatam to rescue a kitten who had

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01:24:01,040 --> 01:24:05,920
Speaker 2: gotten stuck in the rear differential of his Maserati. They

1696
01:24:05,960 --> 01:24:09,360
Speaker 2: took apart the Maserati and got the kitten out of

1697
01:24:09,800 --> 01:24:12,240
Speaker 2: the thing, and the kitten was fine. I go Godham

1698
01:24:12,280 --> 01:24:14,599
Speaker 2: didn't look too thrilled that they took apart his car.

1699
01:24:14,640 --> 01:24:17,400
Speaker 2: He was trying to smile, Okay, the kitten's fine. I'm

1700
01:24:17,439 --> 01:24:19,400
Speaker 2: not sure he was like pumped up about Oh.

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01:24:19,640 --> 01:24:21,760
Speaker 1: I hope they didn't put the car back together. I hope.

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01:24:21,760 --> 01:24:23,720
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sure they I'm sure they went to

1703
01:24:23,760 --> 01:24:25,559
Speaker 2: it otto place and did it.

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01:24:25,640 --> 01:24:28,240
Speaker 4: But I don't know. I just like hearing Greg say.

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01:24:28,520 --> 01:24:30,320
Speaker 2: Yadam, I don't know how to pronounce it. I hope

1706
01:24:30,320 --> 01:24:31,360
Speaker 2: that's how you pronounce it.

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01:24:31,479 --> 01:24:33,479
Speaker 1: I just like Greg like throwing in a you know,

1708
01:24:33,600 --> 01:24:36,200
Speaker 1: slice of life type story through the podcast.

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01:24:36,200 --> 01:24:38,080
Speaker 2: That Mark told me right before the pod that I

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01:24:38,160 --> 01:24:41,000
Speaker 2: have to cover why and so that was when initially

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01:24:41,040 --> 01:24:45,360
Speaker 2: we had scheduled for Ricky, And yeah, that was news

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01:24:45,360 --> 01:24:50,519
Speaker 2: to me. That's why I said, why class, let's take off, Let's.

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01:24:50,280 --> 01:24:53,040
Speaker 1: Bring it in for a landing. Mark Sessler the letter

1714
01:24:53,120 --> 01:24:54,599
Speaker 1: Z Well, let's bring it.

1715
01:24:54,520 --> 01:24:58,759
Speaker 3: In for a landing with the Zach Wilson, the Jets quarterback.

1716
01:24:58,800 --> 01:25:02,160
Speaker 3: I know he looked sixteen years old, his little pink

1717
01:25:02,240 --> 01:25:04,800
Speaker 3: cheeks and blonde Harry looks like a little boy that

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01:25:04,880 --> 01:25:05,320
Speaker 3: start on.

1719
01:25:05,880 --> 01:25:08,040
Speaker 4: That's so raven. But he is a man.

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01:25:08,840 --> 01:25:11,800
Speaker 3: He is a man who zips lasers through in time

1721
01:25:11,920 --> 01:25:15,240
Speaker 3: lost Patriots defenders this audience, and I think he's a

1722
01:25:15,240 --> 01:25:17,559
Speaker 3: man from the age of cancel culture, and that's what

1723
01:25:17,600 --> 01:25:18,120
Speaker 3: the Jets.

1724
01:25:18,160 --> 01:25:19,040
Speaker 4: The Jets must do.

1725
01:25:19,040 --> 01:25:23,240
Speaker 3: At this point, just employ good old fashioned cancel culture.

1726
01:25:23,600 --> 01:25:27,880
Speaker 3: Ignore what's happened over the last fifty years of Jets

1727
01:25:28,120 --> 01:25:32,160
Speaker 3: territories and worlds. Kill it, data, wipe it. Everything's starting

1728
01:25:32,160 --> 01:25:35,559
Speaker 3: out in memory. What then you go cancel the rest

1729
01:25:35,560 --> 01:25:38,200
Speaker 3: of the AFC East And you got Zach Wilson dancing

1730
01:25:38,240 --> 01:25:40,679
Speaker 3: around with a burrito in his right hand, knocking out

1731
01:25:40,680 --> 01:25:42,879
Speaker 3: the Patriots, the Dolphins, and the Bills.

1732
01:25:43,000 --> 01:25:45,200
Speaker 4: It all starts now that Jet.

1733
01:25:46,760 --> 01:25:50,160
Speaker 1: Jets. I love this mark. The Jets are canceling the Jets,

1734
01:25:50,360 --> 01:25:54,040
Speaker 1: but only the past, all the ugliness, all the culture

1735
01:25:54,160 --> 01:25:54,719
Speaker 1: of the past.

1736
01:25:54,800 --> 01:25:57,799
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, so there, how about we cancel the phrase

1737
01:25:57,880 --> 01:26:00,559
Speaker 2: cancel culture? Can we just cancel that no one ever

1738
01:26:00,680 --> 01:26:01,120
Speaker 2: used it?

1739
01:26:01,400 --> 01:26:04,519
Speaker 3: To be the last time we apply it to our society.

1740
01:26:04,479 --> 01:26:09,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, like it? That would be nice. I'm very excited

1741
01:26:09,040 --> 01:26:12,240
Speaker 1: to uh as much as I h I struggled with

1742
01:26:12,280 --> 01:26:14,840
Speaker 1: the sam donold thing. There is no there is no

1743
01:26:16,439 --> 01:26:21,400
Speaker 1: there's no arguing that Jets have a more exciting outlook

1744
01:26:21,439 --> 01:26:23,559
Speaker 1: on their season with this kid in the building. So

1745
01:26:23,600 --> 01:26:28,559
Speaker 1: we'll see if you could play the guitar. So we canceled,

1746
01:26:28,600 --> 01:26:33,080
Speaker 1: canceled Culture, and we canceled the Jets Culture, Baby in

1747
01:26:33,080 --> 01:26:34,719
Speaker 1: the bathwater, Theah.

1748
01:26:34,720 --> 01:26:38,240
Speaker 2: Anyone using the phrase you know you're on it's on

1749
01:26:38,320 --> 01:26:40,439
Speaker 2: the radar. It's on the radar at this point.

1750
01:26:41,120 --> 01:26:44,880
Speaker 1: All right, Mark, Mark Greg great work, Ricky. I hope

1751
01:26:44,880 --> 01:26:48,920
Speaker 1: you're okay. Anything else before we say goodbye.

1752
01:26:49,560 --> 01:26:52,240
Speaker 4: I'd be scared to. Ricky is so anxious to end

1753
01:26:52,240 --> 01:26:52,799
Speaker 4: the episode.

1754
01:26:52,920 --> 01:26:55,080
Speaker 6: It was a joke. Take a joke. You're so up

1755
01:26:55,120 --> 01:26:56,639
Speaker 6: tight marking your bathing suit.

1756
01:26:57,360 --> 01:26:59,559
Speaker 1: Damn it is a tight bathing suit.

1757
01:27:00,280 --> 01:27:03,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, the little given what they want, you know, it's surprising.

1758
01:27:04,280 --> 01:27:07,679
Speaker 2: I'll send a send a shout out and some love

1759
01:27:07,760 --> 01:27:12,040
Speaker 2: to the to the Westling family who who celebrated Chris's

1760
01:27:12,080 --> 01:27:17,360
Speaker 2: life over the weekend UH in Cincinnati, and and I

1761
01:27:17,400 --> 01:27:20,559
Speaker 2: got to be there. It was like it just got

1762
01:27:20,640 --> 01:27:23,080
Speaker 2: me thinking, like what a complex guy Chris is. That

1763
01:27:23,160 --> 01:27:26,600
Speaker 2: there was so much like to learn about him, you know,

1764
01:27:26,840 --> 01:27:30,040
Speaker 2: still to go and so that was you know what hurt.

1765
01:27:30,080 --> 01:27:31,760
Speaker 2: Being there is like a day that you would have

1766
01:27:31,800 --> 01:27:36,320
Speaker 2: wanted to have with him, because just like seeing seeing

1767
01:27:36,320 --> 01:27:39,120
Speaker 2: this place that you know, his ashes were spread, which

1768
01:27:39,160 --> 01:27:43,000
Speaker 2: was this really special family house that owns owned by

1769
01:27:43,000 --> 01:27:45,800
Speaker 2: his uncle, but like they spend every Christmas Eve there

1770
01:27:45,880 --> 01:27:49,760
Speaker 2: and it's like tens and Almo. You know, there's so

1771
01:27:50,120 --> 01:27:52,599
Speaker 2: many of them and it's these two sides of the

1772
01:27:52,640 --> 01:27:55,040
Speaker 2: family and they're all like getting along and they're just

1773
01:27:55,040 --> 01:27:59,080
Speaker 2: like fascinating people. Chris was a fascinating person and complex

1774
01:27:59,120 --> 01:28:05,040
Speaker 2: and he came from such such great stock and they

1775
01:28:05,080 --> 01:28:07,320
Speaker 2: they they did a great tribute to him in that

1776
01:28:07,479 --> 01:28:10,719
Speaker 2: everyone had, you know, sad, but also had a great

1777
01:28:10,760 --> 01:28:14,080
Speaker 2: time together and like spent that time together, and a

1778
01:28:14,080 --> 01:28:15,759
Speaker 2: lot of them I wanted to mention to you guys

1779
01:28:15,800 --> 01:28:18,519
Speaker 2: did mention to me, like cousins and stuff, how how

1780
01:28:18,600 --> 01:28:22,120
Speaker 2: much they liked listening to our shows when they talked

1781
01:28:22,120 --> 01:28:24,320
Speaker 2: about them. Some that are regular listens and some that

1782
01:28:25,000 --> 01:28:27,320
Speaker 2: you know, weren't. But we're like told, hey, listen to this,

1783
01:28:27,439 --> 01:28:30,160
Speaker 2: and like how that really meant a ton to them.

1784
01:28:30,439 --> 01:28:33,040
Speaker 2: And and they wanted me to like pass that on too,

1785
01:28:33,439 --> 01:28:36,479
Speaker 2: just like that, like I don't know that it helped them,

1786
01:28:36,520 --> 01:28:38,800
Speaker 2: and and they and they I think we all just

1787
01:28:38,840 --> 01:28:41,080
Speaker 2: want to be like closer to him still, and that

1788
01:28:41,080 --> 01:28:45,240
Speaker 2: that's a way to do that. That's great, that's awesome,

1789
01:28:45,280 --> 01:28:46,920
Speaker 2: and that's a beautiful place.

1790
01:28:47,280 --> 01:28:50,599
Speaker 1: We're happy. Uh kind of represented the podcast there, and

1791
01:28:50,640 --> 01:28:54,599
Speaker 1: we are really looking forward. We're all getting together. Yeah,

1792
01:28:55,120 --> 01:28:58,640
Speaker 1: all Chris's family and friends getting together again in a

1793
01:28:58,640 --> 01:29:02,080
Speaker 1: few weeks and that's going to be awesome. And uh yeah,

1794
01:29:02,120 --> 01:29:06,560
Speaker 1: it's just the ongoing remembrance of a great man. And uh,

1795
01:29:06,600 --> 01:29:07,240
Speaker 1: that's awesome.

1796
01:29:07,360 --> 01:29:09,840
Speaker 2: That's awesome. Yeah, and Nick shout out to Nick, who

1797
01:29:09,880 --> 01:29:12,479
Speaker 2: I know set up a lot. He's still not thrilled

1798
01:29:12,479 --> 01:29:16,919
Speaker 2: that we had Phil on before him. There's some family heat,

1799
01:29:17,520 --> 01:29:19,639
Speaker 2: but I like that. That's that's what the Westling family

1800
01:29:19,680 --> 01:29:21,880
Speaker 2: is all about. Little inter brother heat will have to

1801
01:29:22,200 --> 01:29:24,519
Speaker 2: we'll have him on. But he did a great job.

1802
01:29:24,400 --> 01:29:25,880
Speaker 4: But also helps to come on second.

1803
01:29:25,920 --> 01:29:30,120
Speaker 3: You let the brother one go first, and you know,

1804
01:29:30,160 --> 01:29:33,920
Speaker 3: you scout his performance, and then you come in attempting

1805
01:29:33,920 --> 01:29:36,520
Speaker 3: to top it, adding more controversy.

1806
01:29:36,640 --> 01:29:40,400
Speaker 2: So he's ready, he's gonna come out firing. He's halfway

1807
01:29:40,439 --> 01:29:43,680
Speaker 2: between no, no, forget you guys, I'm never coming on

1808
01:29:43,800 --> 01:29:45,600
Speaker 2: and I'm gonna wipe the floor with him, which is

1809
01:29:45,640 --> 01:29:48,080
Speaker 2: like the exact reaction Chris. I feel like he is

1810
01:29:48,120 --> 01:29:50,320
Speaker 2: the most like Chris of all the brothers.

1811
01:29:51,120 --> 01:29:53,960
Speaker 1: I was going to say, like the the simmering pot

1812
01:29:54,120 --> 01:29:58,280
Speaker 1: of anger and potential resentment like this could turn into

1813
01:29:58,280 --> 01:30:00,719
Speaker 1: a spice Rack appearance, I mean spicy.

1814
01:30:00,760 --> 01:30:01,320
Speaker 2: Watch your back.

1815
01:30:01,560 --> 01:30:05,880
Speaker 1: You might have a replacement coming from your very same

1816
01:30:06,000 --> 01:30:10,000
Speaker 1: town on the West side of Cincinnati. All right, good,

1817
01:30:10,120 --> 01:30:12,840
Speaker 1: that's great, love it love West. Miss him every day.

1818
01:30:13,960 --> 01:30:17,479
Speaker 1: We missed you during this little break from Wednesday to Tuesday.

1819
01:30:17,600 --> 01:30:19,920
Speaker 1: But we'll be back Thursday with a very special guest,

1820
01:30:20,000 --> 01:30:23,920
Speaker 1: the great Mina Chimes, who is on literally every show

1821
01:30:24,040 --> 01:30:26,880
Speaker 1: on ESPN, So somehow she's gonna carve out a little

1822
01:30:26,920 --> 01:30:29,800
Speaker 1: time for us here on the Aten Podcast and we

1823
01:30:29,840 --> 01:30:33,200
Speaker 1: look forward to that. This is Dan Hansa's signing ah

1824
01:30:33,640 --> 01:30:39,559
Speaker 1: boor the Quiet Storm, the Melman Ricky Hollywood. Everybody Pray

1825
01:30:39,600 --> 01:30:46,200
Speaker 1: for Ricky. Ashtag pay for Ricky until Thursday heeds a

1826
01:30:46,280 --> 01:30:46,559
Speaker 1: call