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Speaker 2: the first edition of this twenty twenty four off season

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Speaker 2: JP Shadwick, Jeff Logoman from Hyundai Studios at the Miller

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Speaker 2: Electric Center busy show coming up for the next hour.

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Speaker 2: The new defensive coordinator talked today, we'll review what Brian

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Speaker 2: Nielsen had to say. Off season business is well underway

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Speaker 2: So a lot to handle for the Jags between now

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Speaker 2: What in the world are you wearing right now? I'm

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Speaker 2: Are you talking about BASSELLI? I didn't say that. I did.

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Speaker 2: I was not implying Boselli. However, I think that would

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Speaker 2: lot to get to obviously likes it's been a while

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Speaker 2: since we've talked Yeah, I'm great man off season and

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Speaker 2: now we're back in the flow again. We've got the

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Speaker 2: combine in a couple of weeks, the league year coming up.

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Speaker 2: We'll get to the off season priorities for the Jaguars

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Speaker 2: coming up in just a little bit. But a big

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Speaker 2: day to day here at the midller of Electric Center,

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Speaker 2: the new defensive coordinator Ryan Nielsen speaking with the media,

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Speaker 2: and the first question, what is this defense going to

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Speaker 3: First of all, we're going to be kind of the

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Speaker 3: overview of everything is is we want to be attacking

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Speaker 3: and aggressive in everything that we do. How we fit

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Speaker 3: the run, how we attack blocks, how we play coverage.

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Speaker 3: We want to be a forward, leaning, forward, running, going

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Speaker 3: forward defense. And you're gonna say, well, what about in

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Speaker 3: the secondary and backpedaling nowt of that, But when we

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Speaker 3: make our break, we're coming out of that break to

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Speaker 3: go hit you. And so that's kind of the you know,

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Speaker 3: the two things that every day that the players come

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Speaker 3: that tackling takeaways, ball disruption in pursuit, and that's what

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Speaker 3: we're going to be about. Tackling takeaways. Ball disruption. You know,

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Speaker 3: you have to be a good tackling defense to be

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Speaker 3: a good defense. Takeaways are the number one way to

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Speaker 3: limit points. Ball disruption is making the offense play not

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Speaker 3: on time. You know, we're taking away a running lane

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Speaker 3: or making a ball balance or disrupting the quarterback and

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Speaker 3: That will be the first thing we talk about with

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Speaker 2: That's Ryan Nielsen today. He played at Southern California and

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Speaker 2: went to an off season with the Philadelphia Eagles, didn't

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Speaker 2: coach from two through twenty sixteen with the Saints, from

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Speaker 2: the defensive coordinator, and now the Jaguars. So what stood

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Speaker 2: out to you today with the Ryan Nielsen? Well, first

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Speaker 2: of all, you can kind of tell that the energy

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Speaker 2: which is a big leadership position in football staff, you

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Speaker 2: want somebody that can stand in front of the room

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Speaker 2: and what he was talking about right there about you know,

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Speaker 2: aggressive and all that. I mean, that's the kind of

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Speaker 2: stuff that you want to hear, I think as a fan,

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Speaker 2: but also as a player, because it essentially it's saying

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Speaker 2: But you know, I'm excited about watching him. I'm excited

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Speaker 2: to see what his staff shows because a defensive coordinator

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Speaker 2: can only be a lot of times as good as

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Speaker 2: He's got an opportunity to do some good things and

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Speaker 2: and you know, fortunately he was named at an early

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Speaker 2: say have the pick of the litter, so to speak,

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Speaker 2: but if you name the defensive coordinator next week, you

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Speaker 2: good that he was named at the point that he was,

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Speaker 2: about well, he said today he was asked about that

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Speaker 2: they said that, you know, there's people in place. They're

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Speaker 2: waiting to officially announce those names in the coming week. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: which gives you the feeling that he's got everybody in place.

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Speaker 2: Seems like it. But it's just a matter of making

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Speaker 2: sure all the contracts are executed, that the people are here,

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Speaker 2: it's funny we talk about this often. You know you're

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Speaker 2: gonna expect to hear certain things. You expect to hear

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Speaker 2: Who's the last time you heard him say no, we're

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Speaker 2: that's what they say. Kind of corralum, you know, keep

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Speaker 2: I mean a lot of it's coach speak. But again,

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Speaker 2: when you have somebody in that position, I always look

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Speaker 2: every day. It's the same thing with the head coach.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he's a guy that has to command attention,

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Speaker 2: So I like what I've seen so far. He's a

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Speaker 2: a head coach. And so he's come from a very

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Speaker 2: good background. Of course, last year the Jaguars played the Falcons.

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Speaker 2: He was the Falcons DC last year and beat the

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Speaker 2: Falcons in London. So Doug Peterson and the Jags got

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Speaker 2: a first hand look at the way that defense operate well.

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Speaker 2: And I think that that's important. You know, when you

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Speaker 2: you will I think you look at it from the

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Speaker 2: can do this. But from an offensive perspective, you're looking

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Speaker 2: at hiring that defensive coordinator from the other side of

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Speaker 2: the field, which defense gave us a challenge. That's Jeff Logman.

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Speaker 2: where did he cross paths with Doug Peterson. There is

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Speaker 2: Doug Peterson with the initial staff Mike Caldwell, there was

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Speaker 2: this also could also speak volumes for Ryan Neilson as

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Speaker 2: there is no familiarity there with that hire. So you know,

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Speaker 2: and look, Doug Peterson wants to have a defensive coordinator

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Speaker 2: that he can be hands off. Okay, that's your side

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Speaker 2: of the ball. You handle that. I'll manage the team

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Speaker 2: and I'll put my two cents in with the offense,

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Speaker 2: you know, because that's as a head coach, you want

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Speaker 2: to have people that you can trust, especially on the

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Speaker 2: So so I like this, I like this higher and

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Speaker 2: a lot of respect, a lot of good things that

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Speaker 2: I've heard about Ryan Nielsen from people in Atlanta and

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Speaker 2: people around the league. Insted to see the rest of

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Josh will be a Jaguar. I know Josh wants

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Speaker 2: don't want to say its entirety is, but it's you know,

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Speaker 2: you've got a draft better so that you can develop

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Speaker 2: players because that's the lifeblood of any franchise. And I'm

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Speaker 2: not criticizing the draft from last year of the year before,

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Speaker 2: but long term, because sometimes it takes two to three

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Speaker 2: years to develop some of these guys so that they

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Speaker 2: are those type of players for you once they get

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Speaker 2: the year three or year four, especially a receiver. It's

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Speaker 2: so hard for a rookie receiver to come in and

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Speaker 2: just blow it out of the water. Well, it's getting

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Speaker 2: easier now because the college game is now such a

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Speaker 2: passing oriented game. I think that's one of the easier

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Speaker 2: positions changing player to come in and to be able

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Speaker 2: to get what's the easiest. You think running back, maybe

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Speaker 2: because there's only probably so yeah, just because running back

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Speaker 2: is a oh gosh, I mean, so react and hit

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Speaker 2: the hole. Well, yeah, it's an instinctive position. Offensive line,

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Speaker 2: sometimes it takes the guy to get the size to

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Speaker 2: develop the technique. Defensive end or pass rushers, defensive tackles

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Speaker 2: kind of the same thing, learning the technique. Learning that

447
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Speaker 2: being the biggest, the strong was in the baddest dude

448
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Speaker 2: on the football team doesn't work anymore. You need to

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Speaker 2: have technique. I think corner is a position that takes

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Speaker 2: a little time to develop. Quarterback definitely takes time developing. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think wide receiver, running back, you know, kind of

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Speaker 2: those positions that you know where they're going are a

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Speaker 2: little bit easier to develop than some of the others. Probably,

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Speaker 2: But if you're a rookie receiver and you're facing off

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Speaker 2: against a high caliber fourth year, fifth year corner on

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Speaker 2: the other side, that corner is going to have the

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Speaker 2: advantage because he's got the experience against you. Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 2: but there's some wide receivers Puka Nukua, right, Okay, he

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Speaker 2: came in and like late pull it out of the

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Speaker 2: water rookie year, but they found a way in that

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Speaker 2: offense to use it. Well. Look, I think you can

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Speaker 2: always find guys that step into the league and are

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Speaker 2: ready to go right away, no matter what the position,

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Speaker 2: because it happens Quentin Nelson, for example, the first year

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Speaker 2: when he was with the Colts an offensive lineman, a

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Speaker 2: position we were just talking about it takes time to develop

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Speaker 2: a Day one he rolled in there. Dominant force, dominant force,

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Speaker 2: justin Jefferson, dominant force from the day he came into

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Speaker 2: the league. Okay, the tight end for the Detroit Lions,

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Speaker 2: day one force, the moment he came into the league.

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Speaker 2: This pasture, when we were watching him in then Interscott

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Speaker 2: squad practices, we were like, Wow, this guy's really good.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: So some guys are just have a knack for it.

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Speaker 2: They're ready to go, ready to go right out of

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Speaker 2: the gate. But it does it's not common. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 2: it's that's the point that you got to find those guys.

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Speaker 2: What is the number with Ridley, you know, I mean

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Speaker 2: that's a great question. I'm sure I wouldn't think that

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Speaker 2: in theory he would want to go test the water

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Speaker 2: well and coming off the season that he had. And

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Speaker 2: that's and I think also you want to you want

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Speaker 2: to see also what's out there from from Nordan, you

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Speaker 2: always want to see what's out there, even even with

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Speaker 2: Josh Allen. But the position that Josh Allen plays, that's

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Speaker 2: you don't find god who at that position that become available.

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Speaker 2: I mean that's corner, pass rusher, quarterback, I mean left tackles.

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Speaker 2: Those are the guys, I mean, offensive lineman you've been

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Speaker 2: Actually if you look over the last couple of years,

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Speaker 2: those guys have been changing teams more often than not.

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Speaker 2: But the pass rushers, the corners, the quarterbacks, they don't

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Speaker 2: look that very Rarely does one come available that's worth

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Speaker 2: K the number five, OK, it's a lot of k's

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Speaker 2: five of them. In fact, Yeah, I wouldn't be good

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Speaker 2: with a five ramps and things. Yeah I can't. Yeah

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Speaker 2: that running got blown out by Bosseli in that one year.

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Speaker 2: I challenged him to a duel. Yeah, and after about

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Speaker 2: a half mile or a k out, he was gone. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: my days of k any or long goal the four

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Speaker 2: He snapped us, I could ride a bike. Coming, I

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Speaker 2: could ride a bike. I'm sure we can all do that. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I could ride a bike to be done in like

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Speaker 2: five minutes. I'm not running anywhere a though like that.

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Speaker 2: We're back in a moment. We'll hear more from Ryan Nilson,

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Speaker 2: new defensive coordinator for the Jaguars. Jaguars Happy Hour brought

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Speaker 2: to you by the Saint John's River Water Management District,

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Speaker 2: Florida's water It's worth saving.

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Speaker 3: The first time the slip came in, it was denied.

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Speaker 3: That's a whole nother story, but that's a good story.

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Speaker 3: And so we decided that, you know, we had a

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Speaker 3: little time off and that they were going through their

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Speaker 3: process and interviewing and things like that, and so we took.

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Speaker 2: The family down.

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Speaker 3: We took them down to Disney World, and we were

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Speaker 3: on the Small World and eventually the slip got granted

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Speaker 3: permission for the slip, and so we're sitting on Smaine

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Speaker 3: and I've got our kids and my wife's on the

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Speaker 3: other end, and we just sat down on the boat

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Speaker 3: and got a text from Coach Peterson basically said hey,

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Speaker 3: Ryan as coach and would like to talk to you.

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Speaker 2: You know that type of deal.

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Speaker 3: And I looked at my wife.

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Speaker 2: And I'm like, how long is this going to be?

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Speaker 3: Like I got to make a call, right, And so

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Speaker 3: you don't realize I was on I can't remember last

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Speaker 3: time I was on a Small World, but it seemed

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Speaker 3: about half an hour that ride and eventually got off

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Speaker 3: and it worked out. But yeah, so that's how it all.

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Speaker 3: And then we were down there and it was really easy.

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Speaker 3: Came up for the interview and kind of went from there.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, it was pretty pretty interesting how it all

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Speaker 3: worked out.

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Speaker 2: That's Ryan Nielsen today, Jaguars defensive coordinator, where he was

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Speaker 2: when he got the word from that coach Doug Peterson.

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Speaker 2: The Small World ride at Disney World. And this is

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Speaker 2: Jaguars Happy Hour, brought to you by the Saint John's

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Speaker 2: River Water Management District, Florida's water It's worth saving. I

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Speaker 2: couldn't tell you how long that ride is either. I

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Speaker 2: think I was seven years old when I was on it.

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Speaker 2: Last time I was on it, gosh years ago. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's kind of an annoying song, it is. But it's Look,

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Speaker 2: I love Disney World, don't get me wrong, Okay, but

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Speaker 2: that's like, uh and it's like it's like a kind

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Speaker 2: of a song that you would expect to hear in

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Speaker 2: a horror movie. It's just like the other plays over

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Speaker 2: and over and over and over again, and it's high pits. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's eerie. Yeah, but Disney's great. On that note, Let's

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Speaker 2: move along for the kids though, We're on to excel

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Speaker 2: Jaguars dot Com, Jaguars YouTube, JP Shadwick. That's Jeff Logoman.

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Speaker 2: It's time for keeping it real. This is a segment

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Speaker 2: we always did on Monday night slots. All right, we're

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Speaker 2: moving it to Thursdays though. In the office. That's great.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna keep it real. Well, I keep it as

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Speaker 2: real as you can keep. I like that out of here,

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Speaker 2: I like and keep it that way. What's the best

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Speaker 2: thing you heard from the new defensive coordinator Ryan Nielsen today?

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Speaker 2: And yeah, go ahead, I'm gonna go back to this again,

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Speaker 2: and it's not so much what he said, but the

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Speaker 2: way he says it, and that I'm a big believer

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Speaker 2: and guys that can lead, the guys that can command

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Speaker 2: respect that when they get in front of the room.

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Speaker 2: And everybody has a different style. For example, Pete Carroll

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Speaker 2: defensive coordinator when I was with the Jets, Okay, high energy, positivity,

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Speaker 2: great messaging, fun to listen to, made everything fun, fun fun. Okay,

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Speaker 2: fast forward to my time in Jacksonville as a player,

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Speaker 2: Dick Jaron quiet, understated, but when he spoke, there was

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Speaker 2: a high level of respect, candor, and honesty that came

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Speaker 2: out of him. And so two different ways of delivering

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Speaker 2: a message. And I liked the energy that Ryan Nielsen

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Speaker 2: had to be perfectly honest with you. I thought Mike

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Speaker 2: caldwells come dry. I liked him as a person, but

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Speaker 2: didn't have a lot of that energy. Now and it's

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Speaker 2: early with Ryan Nielsen, but I like the way he's

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Speaker 2: talking about being aggressive. But all defensive coordinators are saying

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Speaker 2: the same kind of thing in different ways. But again,

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Speaker 2: I believe he's in front of the room type of guy,

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Speaker 2: and that's what I'm most excited about by the way

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Speaker 2: Mike Caldwell ended up in Las Vegas with the Raiders

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Speaker 2: linebackers coach and run game coordinator. Yeah, he's looking. I

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Speaker 2: think Antonio Pearce is going to do a great job.

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Speaker 2: He did a great job to finish the year out

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Speaker 2: with the Raiders, and I like Mike Caldwell and I

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Speaker 2: hope he does well. The one thing that Ryan Nielsen

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Speaker 2: is going to be challenged on, the one thing that

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Speaker 2: Mike Caldwell established here takeaways. Yeah, he did well in

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Speaker 2: that statistical category. The defense was outstanding for two years running,

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Speaker 2: So that's the challenge Ryan Nielson, and he talked about

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Speaker 2: how you limit offensive points and number one thing he said, takeaways. Well,

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Speaker 2: keeping that on the front of the mind of the

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Speaker 2: players has got to be paramount to his success. What

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Speaker 2: did you like when he started talking about the secondary

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Speaker 2: and the way they worked through their coverages and such today,

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Speaker 2: what stood out anything? Well, I mean he kind of

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Speaker 2: covered it with a broad brush. He talked about it

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Speaker 2: in a lot of different ways, because you know, when

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Speaker 2: he was when he was asked a question about what

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Speaker 2: style would he play in the secondary, and he talked

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Speaker 2: about being multiple and that you know, we want to

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Speaker 2: be able to confuse, we want to look a certain way.

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Speaker 2: He went all over the map, So I don't think

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Speaker 2: there was anything clear cut that he said that, hey,

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Speaker 2: we want to play this style, because there's that narrative

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Speaker 2: that he they all play Man and his defense and

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Speaker 2: all this. You know, a lot of it may look

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Speaker 2: like Man, but it ends up being his own concept.

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Speaker 2: But the one thing again that he wants to do

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Speaker 2: with this defense is to be downhill downhill. Aggressive downhill

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Speaker 2: might give a big play or two here or there.

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Speaker 2: If you're no, that's not acceptable. To minimize the damage. No. See,

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Speaker 2: a lot of people think that that those two things

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Speaker 2: go hand in hand. People think, okay, aggressive, Okay, you

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Speaker 2: got to give up some big plays, but we're being aggressive, okay,

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Speaker 2: Like so you have to live with the one in

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Speaker 2: order to do the other. No, no, no, no, Look,

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Speaker 2: you can play aggressive without giving up big plays. You

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Speaker 2: just have to be smart about it. You have to

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Speaker 2: pick and choose. You know, if you go to the

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Speaker 2: super Bowl, look at the super Bowl. Look at the

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Speaker 2: job that Kansas City did. Kansas City did a great

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Speaker 2: job as a defense down the stretch. They were aggressive,

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Speaker 2: you know, but did they give up any big plays

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Speaker 2: are the forty nine ers. No, Oh, that the double

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Speaker 2: pass thing, but that's a trick play. Yeah that was

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Speaker 2: a weird one. Yeah, kind of a weird one. But

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Speaker 2: I mean, other than that, cam Ken City did a

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Speaker 2: really good job minimizing the damage and they played pretty aggressive.

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Speaker 2: By the way, that was a great super Bowl. It

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Speaker 2: helps when you have Chris Jones in your defensive line too,

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Speaker 2: to be aggressive. If you know what, he might want

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Speaker 2: to block him occasionally. He did a really good job.

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Speaker 2: He did a really good job. I was impressed with

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Speaker 2: the way he played in that game because I thought

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Speaker 2: in the AFC Championship game, I didn't think he was

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Speaker 2: at his best, and it was fun to watch him.

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Speaker 2: You know. And by the way, I don't know about you,

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Speaker 2: you were probably thinking the same thing that I was.

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Speaker 2: I was happy because we've got some friends on the

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Speaker 2: Kansas City chief staff. Joe Collin, the defensive line coach,

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Speaker 2: happy for him, Andy Heck, who's done a fantastic job

643
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Speaker 2: with Kan City's offensive line, happy for him. Blaine Gabbert, Yeah,

644
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 2: former Jaguar ring was texting with him, and he was

645
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Speaker 2: excited that he could share a Super Bowl victory with

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Speaker 2: his daughter and but I mean just you know, he's

647
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 2: got a ring now with Tampa Bay and with Yes

648
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Speaker 2: and with Kansas City and he's backing up the second

649
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Speaker 2: coming of the Goat. Yeah, it's amazing. I mean, what

650
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 2: what a career. I mean, he's the builder of goats.

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Speaker 2: I don't know about that, but he's there to back

652
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Speaker 2: up the goats. And then he's in a great position

653
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Speaker 2: and he does a great job. And kudos to him

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00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:26,799
Speaker 2: and congratulations to the Kansas City chiefs. What a year?

655
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Speaker 2: What three out of the last five years are going

656
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Speaker 2: to have an opportunity to go for a three peet

657
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 2: this year? You know, hopefully the Jaguars will have something

658
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 2: about something to say about that. A lot of for

659
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 2: more Jags in that game. Yeah, John Taylor, Ben Bartch,

660
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Speaker 2: Ben barsh who was a backup offensive lineman for the

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Speaker 2: forty nine ers. You know, happy for those guys because

662
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 2: we know him, you know. I mean, that's that's a

663
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:52,360
Speaker 2: great thing. I mean when you think about the league,

664
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Speaker 2: is that you're happy for people that you know because

665
00:35:56,120 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 2: it's such a rare opportunity to win a Super Bowl

666
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Speaker 2: and for those people that got that opportunity and got

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Speaker 2: it just happy for him. I was texting Joe and

668
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Speaker 2: Andy and Blaine. I was just texting them all saying, Man,

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Speaker 2: happy for you. Enjoy the heck out of it, and

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Speaker 2: I know they did. We're back in a moment. We've

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Speaker 2: got social media questions powered by Microsoft Loggs. I know

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Speaker 2: you're a social media maven. Oh, yes, big big on

673
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:29,399
Speaker 2: social bigger in the off season so far, Je, I've

674
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Speaker 2: sworn off of Instagram, totally counterproductive to my bad. I

675
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Speaker 2: didn't know you were sworn into it. Well, I kind

676
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:38,839
Speaker 2: of enjoying it because you know, you can find a

677
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 2: lot of these little bits and films and all that

678
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Speaker 2: kind of stuff. Finally, I just said, you know, I'm

679
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Speaker 2: just wasting my day and not getting anything done by

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Speaker 2: being on Instagram. Right, We'll come back and we'll get

681
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 2: some posts from X about that. It is a Jaguars

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Speaker 2: Chadwick, Jeff Logoman. We're on TenTen XL, Jaguars dot Com,

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Speaker 2: Jaguars YouTube as well. I was trying to remember where

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Speaker 2: we were YouTube I was actually watching. I watched the

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Speaker 2: beginning part of Ryan Nielsen's press conference on YouTube live.

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Speaker 2: How about that? Pretty cool? Right, walked into the press

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00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 2: conference about midway through, m quietly tried to turn off

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Speaker 2: the volume on my phone. Now that work out not

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Speaker 2: very well, not very well. I turned around. I'm like, oh,

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Speaker 2: I guess logoman's here, a little bit of a disruption

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Speaker 2: on my apologies do to r JP and to the others.

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Speaker 2: It's whatever, it's fine. But I quickly quickly was like

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Speaker 2: trying to hit every button on my phone to turn

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Speaker 2: a volume down. Yeah. I love that. Yeah, love that

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Speaker 2: made it. I made it. I'm surprised you saw me.

701
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:16,319
Speaker 2: I was in full blown camp. You were full camo. Yeah,

702
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 2: like you just came out. I actually did. Came from

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Speaker 2: an event. Yes, I had had a good event a day.

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Speaker 2: We had a charity function today where we rained raised

705
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:30,399
Speaker 2: some really good money for a local charity called Angel Would.

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Speaker 2: So it was a fantastic day so far. Love that.

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Speaker 2: Let's get to some social media questions powered by Microsoft.

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Speaker 2: We put the cat signal out on X earlier today.

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Speaker 2: Here's the best we can come up with. Ad Amelia

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Speaker 2: Wizard like a high schooler waiting until the night before

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Speaker 2: to write an essay. How late, we'll log him and

712
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 2: wait until looking at potential draft pick tape. I actually

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00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 2: will start watching the draft pick tape starting in March.

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Speaker 2: You got like two weeks, yeah, So, I mean I

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00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:05,719
Speaker 2: typically start in March because what I try to do

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00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 2: is to wait on the top one hundred lists that

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00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:14,400
Speaker 2: start to come out, you know, the prospects. So for

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Speaker 2: the draft, it kind of gives me a little bit

719
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Speaker 2: of a guide to follow as I work my way

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Speaker 2: through the different positions, and so you kind of check

721
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Speaker 2: them off the box, you know, because typically I'll watch

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Speaker 2: the top one hundred, one hundred and twenty five prospects,

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Speaker 2: you know, so I'm kind of covered through a couple

724
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Speaker 2: two three rounds because you know, our broadcast duties typically

725
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 2: cover the first round only. But you know, the potential

726
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 2: field of possible first round picks is a little bit

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Speaker 2: broader than just watching thirty two, Right, you got to

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Speaker 2: watch sixty five to really kind of cover the potential

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Speaker 2: first round and in some cases probably the top seventy

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Speaker 2: five or eighty, because that's the number that could be

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Speaker 2: first round. Now, if you know, will you get to

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00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:06,280
Speaker 2: a point where you'll say, hey, Jaguars need these certain

733
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Speaker 2: five positions and go deeper in those positions a maytime

734
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Speaker 2: in the fifth round, or sometimes watch ten defensive tackles. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you always watch. I mean I always watch the quarterbacks,

736
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Speaker 2: regardless of whether they need one or not, just because

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00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 2: it's the most important position in football. And at some point,

738
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:29,839
Speaker 2: you know, the Jaguars crazy if they wouldn't think of

739
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,840
Speaker 2: taking another quarterback. Even if you have one and you

740
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 2: feel good about your guy, you still look at the

741
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 2: possibility of taking one. Look at what Kansas City, Kent

742
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 2: City had Alex Smith was playing fine, still drafted Patrick Mahomes.

743
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Speaker 2: You know you can't pass up that opportunity. So but

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00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:50,920
Speaker 2: to answer your question about watching a specific position a

745
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 2: little bit deeper, absolutely like defensive tackle, because that is

746
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:56,479
Speaker 2: definitely going to be a need for this football team

747
00:40:56,520 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 2: going forward, pass rushing, defensive tackles. It leads us into

748
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Speaker 2: our next question at Van Diver twenty one for co

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Speaker 2: GM's Logeman and Shadwick. What is the primary need on

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Speaker 2: each side of the ball and how would you address it. Well.

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00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,319
Speaker 2: I've said this before. This football team needs to get

752
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:18,319
Speaker 2: more physical and more physical on both lines of scrimmages.

753
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 2: So your offensive line and your defensive line. You've got

754
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:25,359
Speaker 2: to get better with the interior of your defensive line.

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Speaker 2: You need to get some depth at the edge. Okay,

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00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 2: Josh and Trayvon are not enough, and Chalevan chase On's

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00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:37,319
Speaker 2: a free agent coming up. You're not gonna resign, and

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00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:40,839
Speaker 2: really you got nobody else the smoot a little bit,

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00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 2: but Smooth wasn't back to form last year. So you've

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Speaker 2: got to consider looking at depth at the edge position.

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00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:49,880
Speaker 2: But the defensive tackle you need to find a way

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00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:52,879
Speaker 2: to get some pass rush from that position. And then

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00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:55,440
Speaker 2: on offense, you've got to get better along the offensive

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Speaker 2: line and in particular in the interior of the three

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Speaker 2: and so you need to find a way to get bigger, stronger,

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Speaker 2: more physical up into that area. I think that's priority

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00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:08,279
Speaker 2: number one is the offensive set, because you got to

768
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Speaker 2: protect the quarterback and the weapons. This well, again, wide receiver,

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Speaker 2: you never you never, I think you never pass up

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Speaker 2: an opportunity to improve yourself at the wide receiver position.

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Speaker 2: Now you had the undrafted guy from San Jose State

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Speaker 2: last year. Names scapes me now that you felt pretty

773
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Speaker 2: good about. But can he be the guy? I don't know,

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Speaker 2: but you've got to consider drafting that position. Tackle. You

775
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 2: always consider drafting tackle because you can play tackles at

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Speaker 2: guard for a period of time, and a lot of

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00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 2: times college tackles are not forecasted or projected to be

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Speaker 2: pro tackles. Some of them have to be guards. Look

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Speaker 2: at Skeronsky with the Tennessee Titans. Was a highly rated

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Speaker 2: tackle in college, but ended up being a guard. That

781
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:03,719
Speaker 2: probably wasn't the best value pick on the planet for

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Speaker 2: the Tennessee Titans, because you don't draft to guard that high,

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Speaker 2: in my opinion, unless he's a game changer. Elijah Cooks

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Speaker 2: was the receiver from Jacob Harris from Yes, thank you,

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Speaker 2: thank you. But if you don't have, you know, let's

786
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Speaker 2: think about here's a here's another position, JP. I'm gonna

787
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Speaker 2: throw out there something you probably didn't even think of.

788
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Speaker 2: How about kicker? How about it? Okay? You you brought

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Speaker 2: back Riley Pattersonlly Patterson shi a futures contract. Brandon McManus

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Speaker 2: a little bit of a question mark last year in

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Speaker 2: Moments Yeah Later, Okay, I think you you absolutely look

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00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:52,319
Speaker 2: at that position as well. But the priority, I mean,

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Speaker 2: going back to where we started this thing, is on

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Speaker 2: the interior of the offensive line, defensive line. Interior the

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00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:01,360
Speaker 2: offensive and defensive lines. You've got to get more physical.

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00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:05,440
Speaker 2: You've got to get bigger and stronger. Now, do you

797
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:11,240
Speaker 2: have some guys that could develop? Could Cooper Hodges develop

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Speaker 2: to be one of those guys? And he's coming off

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Speaker 2: a knee surgery. There was some encouraging signs prior to

800
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Speaker 2: the knee injury. Where is he at now? I don't know.

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Speaker 2: We'll see. Do you have any defensive tackles that you

802
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 2: feel good about their development? Devon Hamilton has got to

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00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:30,439
Speaker 2: get back to being healthy. Hey, you got some young

804
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:33,279
Speaker 2: guys you got? I mean Lacey was around right, he

805
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:36,719
Speaker 2: didn't play much and he's he's one of those kind

806
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Speaker 2: of run stuffing but he's not a pass rusher. I

807
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Speaker 2: don't see dominant pass rusher out of him. He's a

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Speaker 2: guy or should I say the position you're looking for

809
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Speaker 2: is pass rusher, interior pass rusher, and that that's a

810
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 2: hard position to find, hard position to find. Look in

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Speaker 2: the look in the division, who's the most dominant interior

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Speaker 2: pass rusher in the division, in the division, or the

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00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 2: most dominant inter player in the in the in the division. Butner, Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: Forrest Buckner, Andy, absolutely right. I think Tennessee Jeffrey Simmons,

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Speaker 2: he's good when he's out there. When he's out there,

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Speaker 2: little banged up this past year, but when he's out

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Speaker 2: there dominant, he's arguably the best in the division. Do

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Speaker 2: you have one of those guys? I would say no

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Speaker 2: right now, No, you don't have one of those guys.

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Speaker 2: Get me one of those guys. Well, the guys are

821
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Speaker 2: going to be around that are on this defensive line

822
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Speaker 2: because their dead cap number is huge. Some of these guys,

823
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Speaker 2: Roy Robertson Harris I means doesn't have a big dead number, right.

824
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Speaker 2: My guess would be that his time may be up

825
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Speaker 2: with his team. I think Roy Robertson Harris who signed

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Speaker 2: an extension last year. Devon Hamilton I believe signed an

827
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Speaker 2: extension last year. Fine, those two good football players, two

828
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 2: good football players. Devon's got to get healthy though. Now,

829
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Speaker 2: the last year was last year. It was old, I mean,

830
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:06,440
Speaker 2: just a shell of himself last year. Roy Robertson Harris,

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Speaker 2: I wasn't happy with where he was at last year.

832
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Speaker 2: I thought he was good at times, but then at

833
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 2: times he disappeared. He's got to be better. Yeah, he's

834
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Speaker 2: not going anywhere. I mean he's no, he's not going

835
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Speaker 2: anywhere now. But he's got to be better. Oh sure, Yeah,

836
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Speaker 2: absolutely does fully fun of Cassi. I mean, he's twelve

837
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Speaker 2: million cap at twelve eight and the dead caps nine

838
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 2: to two, so you're saving three still big, that's still

839
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Speaker 2: a big number to not play. It's he represents a

840
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Speaker 2: cap saving thoughe three million, yep. Ish can't ignore that. Yeah,

841
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Speaker 2: that's true. I mean, but I think it might be

842
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Speaker 2: more than that. I mean, so I think that that's

843
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Speaker 2: a position though you've and then supposedly that's that's a

844
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 2: position of strength in this draft. I can't say that

845
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Speaker 2: for sure. I can't say that firsthand because again I

846
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Speaker 2: haven't started the process of looking at him, but I will,

847
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 2: and that's a position that I will focus on in

848
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 2: a big fashion. So you've got to be prepared for

849
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Speaker 2: this draft to not be a sexy draft, at least

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Speaker 2: near the top. It's going to be big uglies maybe, right. Look, Look,

851
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 2: if they're out there, big and ugly is sexy to me, JP.

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00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 2: I mean, football players are big and ugly and tough.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's where it's at. You know, that's

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00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 2: where it's at, you know, I mean, how many times

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Speaker 2: have you heard a coach say this game is one

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Speaker 2: or lost in the trenches? Today, defense wins championships. I

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Speaker 2: mean all of these statements that are made, But I mean,

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Speaker 2: this team's got to get bigger, stronger, and more dominant

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Speaker 2: at the line of scrimmage because if you look at

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Speaker 2: some of the big games that they've played this past year,

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Speaker 2: that's not an area that they were winning consistently. And

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Speaker 2: on the offensive line in the interior, they've got to

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Speaker 2: get better. They've got to get better. One more question

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Speaker 2: at Cali hot shot IRL, what changes would you like

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Speaker 2: to see or would you make this off season? This

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Speaker 2: is yeah, that's a broad brush. I think. You know,

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Speaker 2: they've made the big changes they're gonna make. I mean,

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Speaker 2: they got rid of a lot of the defensive staff.

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Speaker 2: A new DC's coming in. You know, that's that's really

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Speaker 2: the big changes. So, I mean the passing game coordinator's

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00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:20,680
Speaker 2: gone now, right, so they got to figure that out

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Speaker 2: on off It's just one thing off hand. Okay, you

873
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Speaker 2: look at last year, the draft class that was last year,

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00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 2: where did you where was the production at there? Right

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Speaker 2: tackle and Tom Harrison? Yeah, okay, any production anywhere else

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Speaker 2: for the most part, not really. Yeah. I want to

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00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 2: see more production out of that class this year. Okay,

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00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:50,759
Speaker 2: whatever it takes, well, you do you develop them. These

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00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:55,120
Speaker 2: guys get pushed, they get challenged from another class or

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00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:59,000
Speaker 2: free agent guys, whatever. I want to see production out

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00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:01,360
Speaker 2: of that class because there was a lot of picks

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00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 2: that they invested last year and then this past year

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Speaker 2: they did not get a lot of production out of

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Speaker 2: that class as a whole, anti relative to some other teams.

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Speaker 2: Of course, Brenton Strange second round pick. I like Brenton Strange,

886
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Speaker 2: don't get me wrong. I like him as a player,

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Speaker 2: but he essentially played the role of a full back

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00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:23,799
Speaker 2: last year. Do you draft full backs in round two?

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00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 2: Tank pigsby another running back slation. You know, he had

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Speaker 2: a couple issues early on, and I think there was

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Speaker 2: a lack of confidence with him, and that's got a change.

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Speaker 2: Ben trel Miller foot problem all year long. Didn't play

893
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:41,320
Speaker 2: at all. It's hurt in college too. Yep. Tyler Lacy.

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Speaker 2: We already talked about fourth round. Solid year, solid year

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Speaker 2: for a fourth round pick, sir Abdula edge rusher, but

896
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:50,799
Speaker 2: nothing out of him. Antonio Johnson was good late, love him.

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00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:55,400
Speaker 2: Parker Washington had some moments arguably my my my favorite

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Speaker 2: draft pick from last year. Johnson. Yes, yeah, Antonio Johnson.

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Speaker 2: This he's scouts. He reminds me of Hamilton with the Ravens,

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Speaker 2: and that he has the ability to play nickel, he

901
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Speaker 2: can play corner, he can play safety. I like him.

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Speaker 2: I like it a lot. Social media questions powered by

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Speaker 2: Microsoft are in. Thanks for all the submissions today. Lock's

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Speaker 2: good to see you. It'll be a couple more weeks

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Speaker 2: before we see you again. You're out next week and

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Speaker 2: then we're at the Combine in two weeks. Oh wow,

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Speaker 2: Combines in two weeks. Two weeks from today. We'll be

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Speaker 2: an indie for this show. All right, Well, you can

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Speaker 2: cover it an indy. I'll be there with our whole

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Speaker 2: crew of course. Max Hawkman on the controls today, Joe

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Speaker 2: Fortunado on the audio for Jeff Logoman. I'm JP Shatterick.

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Speaker 2: It's Jaguars Happy Hour.