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Speaker 2: I know, and a lot of people will ask, what

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Speaker 5: It's like the Clippers obviously.

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Speaker 3: Well I pause for a seconds saying, okay, the.

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Speaker 2: Dead body, so to speak, that is the NFL twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty four twenty five season is.

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Speaker 3: Not cold yet. There's still plenty of heat on that body.

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Speaker 2: And as long as there's still a breath that we

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Speaker 3: So we're going to cover it all.

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Speaker 2: Obviously, it's all star weekend for the NBA the Monsey

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Speaker 2: congratulations again on beating me this year in our NFL picks,

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Speaker 2: despite my vain attempts to somehow, some way twist the

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Speaker 2: rules in my favor backfired every single time. But I'm

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Speaker 2: not going to end our coverage of the football season

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Speaker 2: without crowing about the best pick that I made all season.

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Speaker 3: Long, because I never wavered on this pick.

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Speaker 4: I mean for two weeks.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I was never wavering for a moment that the

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Speaker 2: Eagles would not only win the Super Bowl, but by

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Speaker 2: double digits. And I didn't predict you know, thirty four,

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Speaker 2: nothing lead, nothing like that. But I just felt, again

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Speaker 2: there were a lot of people hesitant to pick the

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Speaker 2: Eagles based on being athorized by the Chiefs that Mahomes

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Speaker 2: will never lose, that the games are fixed, it's bet

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Speaker 2: bad to bet against Mahomes. And I remember remember some

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Speaker 2: of those stats we had, like, all right, Mahomes was

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Speaker 2: eight to zero against a Vic Fangio defense. He was

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Speaker 2: three and zero against teams in playoff games that had

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Speaker 2: the number one rated defense in the regular season, and

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Speaker 2: Mike Counter was, all right, you're giving me absolutes, like

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Speaker 2: it's never happened I'll give you another never happened. No

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Speaker 2: team's ever won three straight Super Bowls. Okay that one.

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Speaker 2: Trump's all of them. And we saw why it's difficult.

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Speaker 2: The Chiefs did not really pass the smell test if

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Speaker 2: you were to take Mahomes and really everything out of

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Speaker 2: the equation. Other than just judging these two teams based

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Speaker 2: on what they did in twenty twenty four, the eyeball

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Speaker 2: test was clear. Yep, the Eagles had a better team

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Speaker 2: players on both sides of the football.

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Speaker 3: They were the better team in twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 2: So based on what I saw and to me it

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Speaker 2: wasn't really close, and how the Eagles looked on both

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Speaker 2: sides of the football as compared to the Chiefs. That's

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Speaker 2: why I said, I'm looking for an Eagle's double digit

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Speaker 2: win and for once, for once, reasoning actually worked, right.

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Speaker 4: You know, my.

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Speaker 2: Excuse on my bad picks is always the same, the

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Speaker 2: more you know, the less you know. But this time

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Speaker 2: I just said, let's take a step back. You kept

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Speaker 2: it simple eyeball test, which team looks better? And I'm like,

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Speaker 2: not only the Eagles look better, they look much better,

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Speaker 2: and obviously they prove that in the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 5: So I man, maybe I was drinking the Chiefs kool

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Speaker 5: was a bad game for the Chiefs. But I also

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Speaker 5: thought going into that game that the Eagles on paper,

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Speaker 5: had the better roster. I did think that. I just

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Speaker 5: thought the coaching I was giving the edge to the Chiefs.

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Speaker 5: And that's why my prediction was a close game, that

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Speaker 5: that's really what I thought was gonna happen, that the

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Speaker 5: coaching was gonna give the Chiefs the edge. But that game, Wow,

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Speaker 5: it was clear as day who the better team was.

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Speaker 5: Early on, like, I don't care if it was only

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Speaker 5: They just came out very It wasn't even dominant. They

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Speaker 5: it was like, this is the better team. They are

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Speaker 5: But it was a good job Eagles, And I don't

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Speaker 5: the Chiefs were bad and a bad game. No, no, no,

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Speaker 5: the Eagles were excellent. It was both.

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Speaker 2: It was it was absolutely I mean think about it again.

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Speaker 2: The Eagles had more points in the first half, twenty four.

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Speaker 2: Then the Chiefs had total yards twenty three. Yeah, one

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Speaker 2: could see Fox, you know, scrambling at halftime. We can't

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Speaker 2: were scrambling, you know, all right, Chiefs had the ball

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Speaker 2: know they got a first down and then back to

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Speaker 3: I mean, it was complete demolition.

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Speaker 5: How do you think those AFC teams like the Bills,

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Speaker 5: the Ravens, how do you think they felt watching that

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Speaker 5: game or all the teams that played the Chiefs this year,

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Speaker 5: y'all let them win so many games.

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Speaker 3: I have a theory about this.

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Speaker 5: What is the theory?

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Speaker 2: So when you watch the Bills game, the AFC Championship game, the.

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Speaker 3: Bills had zero turnovers.

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Speaker 2: Yes, they scored four touchdowns, but you had a sense

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Speaker 5: They walked in with that mentality.

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Speaker 2: They really felt like they had that mentality your dog gain.

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you a team that doesn't have that mentality

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Speaker 3: is the Bengals.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but they have to get two of the playoffs

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Speaker 2: obviously to take on the Chiefs.

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Speaker 3: And the Eagles were not spooked at all.

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Speaker 2: The biggest thing I said about the Eagles, forget all

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Speaker 2: the stats, everything, to me, the most important aspect of

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Speaker 2: the Eagles in this Super Bowl is they had been

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Speaker 2: there before. Yes, and they know looking back at two

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Speaker 2: been for that fluky fumble where Hertz just drops the

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Speaker 2: So they came to New Orleans prepared. They weren't overawed

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Speaker 2: that's exactly what they did. So it just I couldn't

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Speaker 4: No, absolutely, But the overreaction.

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Speaker 3: To the Chiefs losing was shameless.

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Speaker 2: I mean when I when I'm hearing people actually calling

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Speaker 2: let's the guy has been to the Super Bowl five

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Speaker 5: You know, some people just need to say crazy things occasionally.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but it doesn't even make any sense.

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Speaker 5: It doesn't make it.

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Speaker 3: It makes sense zero.

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Speaker 2: Why don't you If you're going to call for the

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Speaker 2: head of Sean McDermott. Oh yeah, right, who can't even

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Speaker 2: get to the game. Yep. So I mean, just that's

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Speaker 2: to me, it's pure stupidity. I mean, you're just making

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Speaker 2: stupid comments is what you're making. And I heard way

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Speaker 2: too many met people trying to make this argument and

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Speaker 2: I'm like, you're not making any sense.

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Speaker 5: It makes no sense.

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Speaker 3: What the Chiefs do need to.

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Speaker 2: Do though, as they get ready for next season, try

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Speaker 2: to get back on track. And I'm with Patrick Mahomes. Look,

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Speaker 2: they didn't give up. I mean, it was garbage time,

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Speaker 2: it shows you again the character of Patrick Mahomes. It

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Speaker 2: just you know, it's interesting about Mahomes. For second, here

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Speaker 2: is that, you know, the conversation about the goat. So

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Speaker 2: he did a pregame interview with Tom Brady, So here's

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Speaker 2: like the goat versus potentially the guy that's going to

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Speaker 2: pass the goat.

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Speaker 3: But can you really.

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Speaker 2: Put Mahomes in the conversation as the goat when the

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Speaker 2: two most one sided losses of his entire career both

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's it's something to definitely think about. I don't

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Speaker 5: are we going to be saying in five years, Let's

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Speaker 5: see what happens. Because he's so young, there's so much

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Speaker 5: he went a couple of more and he does it

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Speaker 5: in dominant fashion. Are we going to hold those two losses,

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Speaker 5: obviously one of them to the top, Tom Brady? Are

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Speaker 5: we going to hold those losses if he ends up

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Speaker 5: still having a great career. It's just so early to

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Speaker 5: have that discussion. In my opinion, I hate it. I

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Speaker 5: you know, view it differently depending on what happens the

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Speaker 5: Chiefs Before we completely move on from that game, I

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Speaker 5: really thought their defense did everything they could. It was

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Speaker 5: really like, where is your offense?

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Speaker 2: Where was the offense this whole season? Well, they focused

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Speaker 2: on Saquon Barkley. They have the worst game current of

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Speaker 2: this season. You know the fact that Hurts actually had

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Speaker 2: more rushing yards than Saquon had in this game.

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Speaker 3: So we talked about that.

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Speaker 2: I mean, You're like, Okay, we're going to shut down

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Speaker 2: Saquon Barker, all right, We're not going to let this

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Speaker 3: And if Jalen Hurts beats us, so be it.

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Speaker 1: Yep.

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Speaker 3: That being said, he should not have been the MVP

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Speaker 3: of this game.

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Speaker 5: Who would you have given it to?

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean there's a guy that had two and

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Speaker 2: a half sacks on the on the edge. Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: mean in the first half when it mattered. The game

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Speaker 2: was over at half time. Yeah, twenty three total yards

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Speaker 2: and one first down for the Chiefs, Patrick Mahomes and

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Speaker 3: That was the story of the game. Nothing against Hurts.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he broke his own record for most rushing

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Speaker 5: Interesting, so we're no Alabama.

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Speaker 4: It's redemption game.

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Speaker 2: I was just I just I just thought Josh Swett

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Speaker 3: So you had a good Super Bowl viewing party?

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Speaker 5: I went to a new place and I love them

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Speaker 2: Well, it was what I predicted, thank you very much.

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Speaker 2: As I predicted an Eagles blowout win. Let's find out

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Speaker 2: the great. Adam Kaplan is joining us right now. So Adam,

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Speaker 2: before we start to look ahead to next season, there's

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Speaker 2: how surprised or were you surprised at how good and

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Speaker 3: The Chiefs were in Super Bowl fifty nine.

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Speaker 7: Well, Steve, I got both right. I picked the Eagles

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Speaker 7: get it right last week that predicted it a Eagles blowout.

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Speaker 1: I just this is the what I gathered.

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Speaker 1: So everyone kind of thought.

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Speaker 1: Very impressive offensively.

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Speaker 7: At some point someone's got to exploit them, and that's

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Speaker 7: what happened. I think I asked you that when when

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Speaker 7: you surprised me with that last week prior to the game,

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Speaker 7: you seem to indicate that and Jason Evatt, former Chief

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Speaker 7: the Chiefs just didn't have it and that game, the

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Speaker 7: your question, that's the part that surprised me. None of

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm with you, Adam. What roster right now do

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Speaker 1: I think Baltimore. Baltimore.

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Speaker 7: Look, they the Eagles handle them really well. In fact,

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Speaker 1: They're right there, there's no question about it. Detroit.

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Speaker 7: Also, when you talk who are the elite teams, let's

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Speaker 7: The Eagles, I have to tell you, they have three

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you mentioned Josh Sweat, who should have been the

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Speaker 2: I mean, I mean he should have easily. I mean,

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Speaker 2: mean that is one first down. That's the game was over.

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Speaker 2: Second half was meaningless. If the game was over at halftime,

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Speaker 3: Should have been Super Bowl MVP.

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Speaker 2: But no knock on Jalen Hurts because obviously, you know,

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Speaker 3: All Right. I want to talk a little about Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 2: So now reports are coming out and he knew this

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Speaker 7: He wanted to play. I talked to one of the

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Speaker 7: I think sometimes we exaggerate.

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Speaker 2: Go all right, but let's let's talk about his future.

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Speaker 2: Like you know, people are saying, well, maybe the Raiders.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, what are we? What are you talking about?

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Speaker 2: The only reason that Aaron Rodgers gave for extending his

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Speaker 3: That doesn't make any sense.

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Speaker 2: I mean, unless he's been lying about his motivation. I mean,

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Speaker 2: continue to pay me, hell yeah, I'm going to play,

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Speaker 2: that would be honest. But don't give me this garbage.

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Speaker 2: Well you know, I want an other opportunity to win

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Speaker 3: A team like a Raiders, that's not why you sign

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Speaker 2: You sign with them because they said, all right, we'll

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Speaker 2: make you the starting quarterback, and we're going to pay

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Speaker 2: you thirty forty fifty million dollars a year.

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Speaker 3: Whatever you're going to make. Let's be honest about it.

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Speaker 2: I mean, is there any team out there that has

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Speaker 7: Well, first of all, every job is taking Mahomes obviously,

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Speaker 3: Bengals are you, Yeah, but they.

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Speaker 1: Have no chance.

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Speaker 3: No, well, you you sold me on the whole.

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Speaker 2: You know, you were the big seller on Rogers with

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Speaker 3: Well, maybe the.

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Speaker 7: No, No, I don't think it's Steve. It's a good thought.

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Speaker 7: In fact, there's no He's not going to be a backup.

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Speaker 7: You can shoot that down. That's not going to happen.

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Speaker 7: He turns forty two in the summer. I'm told you

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Speaker 7: don't care how old you are. If you're twenty four

442
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Speaker 7: years old, you're not gonna be able to perform with

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Speaker 7: those two injuries at that position. He just couldn't push

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Speaker 7: off and he's physically beaten down him that that was

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Speaker 7: a big deal.

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Speaker 1: So no, there's no scenario. Now it's going to be hard.

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Speaker 3: Now what about Minnesota? What about San Francisco?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, the Niners have made it clear they're extending brock

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Speaker 7: Party's contract.

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Speaker 1: Take them out of the mixed.

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Speaker 3: What was the other team, Minnesota?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, listen, they want Darnold back. They're going to talk

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Speaker 7: to his representatives. But I don't see them committing the

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Speaker 7: kind of money or the years to just say JJ

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Speaker 7: McCarthy's not going to be a factor down the line.

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Speaker 1: So no, it's either one. They have one of the two.

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Speaker 7: I mean, they have got McCarthy who got hurt against

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Speaker 7: the Raiders in his first preseason game, and they have

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Speaker 7: an opportunity to recite and Darnold.

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Speaker 1: So no, it's it's it's.

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Speaker 7: Fascinating, guys when you really look at it. There's just

462
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Speaker 7: not a lot of opportunity. But Steve, yes, there would

463
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Speaker 7: be an opportunity for him if he just wants to

464
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Speaker 7: go somewhere to saw it, to be a star with

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Speaker 7: a bad team. Yes, he can do that. Not a

466
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Speaker 7: team that's got a legit chance. I thought you set

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Speaker 7: that up very well. It's just right now now Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 7: I'd be stunned. If Russell Wilson's back, I'd be stunned.

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Speaker 7: My understanding is some some of the coaches did not

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Speaker 7: want him back, or they did not they actually wanted

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Speaker 7: a bench him. They were told no, that's something to

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Speaker 7: keep an eye on here. They also they like justin fields,

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Speaker 7: they might try to resign him. That's the team that

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Speaker 7: where you go never say never. They just if they

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Speaker 7: can't get their future quarterback, they're gonna still tape job

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Speaker 7: that they can go year to year.

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Speaker 5: Could we see maybe Aaron Rodgers doing a Joe Flacco

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Speaker 5: where he doesn't have a team to start the season

479
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Speaker 5: and then maybe somebody gets hurt, he comes off.

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Speaker 1: The couch uh oh Waite sponsor you see.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Like, do you think you'll you'll wait it out?

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Speaker 1: I think you see.

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Speaker 7: Sometimes you see these veteran quarterbacks where they were told, okay, listen,

484
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Speaker 7: we're not going to hand you the job, but you

485
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Speaker 7: could come and compete for the job, like Indianapolis right

486
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Speaker 7: where Anthony Richardson they're going to give him one more

487
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Speaker 7: year to get this right. But if you're Rogers, you

488
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Speaker 7: probably figured you could beat him out. I'm just we're

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Speaker 7: just thinking hypothetically here. But they're not a super Bowl team. Yeah,

490
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Speaker 7: they have no chance to win a super Bowl. The

491
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Speaker 7: roster's not going to now I say that, we're in

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Speaker 7: mid February. Now we've got look at who thought the

493
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Speaker 7: Commanders but not certainly not I who thought the Commanders

494
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Speaker 7: can make this type of run with that roster. By

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Speaker 7: the way, that that's the See, this is what you

496
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Speaker 7: don't know is what's going to happen for free agency

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Speaker 7: in the draft. Then you could start saying, Okay, who

498
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Speaker 7: are breakout teams? So that's that's It's just it is

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Speaker 7: fascinating with the Rogers situation, how.

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Speaker 3: This thing has gone south absolutely well in the weeks ahead.

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Speaker 2: Hopefully Adam, you'll continue to join us because the NFL's

502
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Speaker 2: in the news three hundred and sixty five days all

503
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Speaker 2: that here Otherwise here we always abreege yet it. Adam,

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Speaker 2: thank you so much, and we'll check in with you

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Speaker 2: down the road. Sounds good, see the great Adam Kaplan.

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Speaker 3: There are Fox Sports Radio, NFL insider.

507
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Speaker 2: We're not going to kid ourselves with many of you

508
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Speaker 2: out there that say, look, with all due respect to

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Speaker 2: the NBA Major League Baseball spring training getting underway.

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Speaker 3: Great, great, I need my NFL fixed.

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Speaker 5: We will have a like literally, there's still more things

512
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Speaker 5: I could ask this man.

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Speaker 2: I mean, we could all day, every day. All right,

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Speaker 2: let's find out what is a trending right now? I

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Speaker 2: know the guy that is one hundred percent in uh

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Speaker 2: as far as the dominance of the National Football League, Martin,

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Speaker 2: were you surprised at all what happened in the Super

518
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Speaker 2: Bowl or did you sit back and saying, yeah, I

519
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Speaker 2: could see this happening.

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Speaker 8: I think if you weren't surprised by what happened in

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Speaker 8: the Super Bowl, you're just lying.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, good answer, Martin.

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Speaker 8: Like you may have thought the Eagles were going to

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Speaker 8: be double digit face Like, that's right, particular right.

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Speaker 3: But nobody.

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Speaker 8: I don't think anybody in their right mind, left mind

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Speaker 8: or mine in the middle thought that we would see

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Speaker 8: Patria Holmes play quite literally the worst game of.

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Speaker 3: His entire career. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And by the way, the other worst game of his

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Speaker 2: career was the other Super Bowl he got blown out

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Speaker 2: by Tampa.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Is that weird?

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Speaker 2: I mean, does that take him out of the conversation

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Speaker 2: as the goat? If the two worst games of your

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Speaker 2: entire career with super Bowl losses.

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Speaker 5: No, thank you.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, And it's honestly, Steven, Steven a little ridiculous, Steven.

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Speaker 3: Thank you? You call me My mother used to call

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Speaker 3: me Steven.

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Speaker 8: Well, it's only because you've been acting out of turn

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Speaker 8: and having this level of car like.

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Speaker 3: I'm just I'll tell you it is.

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Speaker 8: You name your favorite quarterback and I'll show you a

545
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Speaker 8: playoff loss worse than Patrick Mahomes's worst.

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Speaker 3: Well you know this.

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Speaker 2: I'm glad you mentioned that because people will talk about

548
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Speaker 2: Joe Montana four to zero super Bowls, never to an interception.

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Speaker 2: He had a playoff loss of the New York Giants

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Speaker 2: where they lost forty nine to three.

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Speaker 8: Nice Steve, that would be yep, doing him quick, a

552
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Speaker 8: bigger ass, well than what we saw on the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 4: Joe Montana.

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Speaker 2: Actually, Joe Montana had a run of three straight years

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Speaker 2: where he was one and done in the playoffs. Now

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Speaker 2: I believe, but it's like to Michael three years. It's

557
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Speaker 2: like the Michael Jordan. He never lost the NBA finals.

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Speaker 2: There are you discounting the other eight years of his

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Speaker 2: career that he didn't make the NBA finals? Is that

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Speaker 2: discounted he was six and oh, I'm like, well, actually

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Speaker 2: he was six for fourteen.

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Speaker 3: NBA media has decided that it's going to be the case. Steve,

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Speaker 3: I'm doing my part. I expect you two to do

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Speaker 3: the same. For the NFL, we will not allow that

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Speaker 3: to happen this go around.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's my argument about Lebron being the goat, because

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Speaker 2: well he's four and six in NBA finals.

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Speaker 3: He made the NBA finals eight straight years. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I agree, it's hard to eight years in a row.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm sorry, said you know what, Patrick Mahomes loses

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Speaker 8: the first round playoff game, call me, then we can

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Speaker 8: have this conversation.

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Speaker 5: But when he doesn't make the playoffs, let's shot.

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Speaker 4: Call me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he doesn't go seven straight AFC championship games.

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Speaker 8: And only lost the two in ties right in overtime.

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Speaker 8: It was tie game and relation boom.

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Speaker 3: But the two bad losses were Super Bowls. That's what

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Speaker 3: happens when you're always playing the last game of the year.

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Speaker 3: You know, Tom Brady lost to Nick Foles. He did.

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Speaker 3: It was badly outplayed, but all right, see here you go.

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Speaker 5: Nick foles tweet was great. By the way, is.

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Speaker 3: Jalen Hurts, the Eli manning of this generation. Well your thoughts.

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Speaker 2: If he's underappreciated, then I guess the answer would be yes.

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Speaker 2: I mean very different type of quarterbacks. But you know,

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Speaker 2: I've always been a Jalen Hurts guy. I've been trying

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Speaker 2: to get him in the conversation with LEAE quarterbacks. I

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Speaker 2: asked everybody before the seal, what if he's like Super

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Speaker 2: Bowl MVP and they win big, are you gonna put

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Speaker 2: him in the conversation?

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Speaker 3: Nah?

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Speaker 2: I mean we we got Bo Benson, who is you know,

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Speaker 2: like the mystery Eagles guy saying he would trade him

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Speaker 2: in a heartbeat even if he wins Super Bowl MVP

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Speaker 2: for Justin Herbert.

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Speaker 8: I also stand with you, Steve Josh what should have

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Speaker 8: been the Super Bowl MVP? And you know the whole

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Speaker 8: First what first three Super Bowl MVPs from Alabama not

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Speaker 8: scoring touchdowns?

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Speaker 3: No one cares? Max McGee first Super Bowl snub for

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Speaker 3: MVP catches.

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Speaker 2: One hundred and thirty eight yards two touchdowns, came off

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Speaker 2: the bench nursing a hangover when boy Doaller went down

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Speaker 2: with an injury in Super Bowl Won, which was then

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Speaker 2: called the AFL NFL channel.

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Speaker 3: And look much you've probably never seen these highlights.

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Speaker 8: Max McGee two one handed catches, Diney behind him, one

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Speaker 8: hand that catches.

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Speaker 3: Oh, don't beck them, eat your heart out.

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Speaker 8: One big game going on right now, number one and

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Speaker 8: number two going out in college basketball, Auburn right now

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Speaker 8: with an eighty four to seventy eight lead over Alabama.

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Speaker 8: The Tigers number one team. Crimpton tied the second rate team. Steve,

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Speaker 8: you want to still talk about the Super Bowl a

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Speaker 8: little bit more than all right? There we go, all

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Speaker 8: right back to you guys.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Thank you very much.

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Speaker 5: Okay, Yes see, Mart gets it. Putting already this negative

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Speaker 5: talk on Patrick Mahomes. I just don't get it. I

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Speaker 5: just don't get it.

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Speaker 3: Well, again, what's happening?

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Speaker 2: Just like we were talking earlier about the people that

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Speaker 2: want to fire Andy Reid?

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Speaker 3: Is you old? What have you done for me lately? Okay?

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Speaker 2: So what have we done for me lately? With Patrick Mahomes.

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Speaker 2: He's been a starting quarterback for seven years and he's

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Speaker 2: been in the AFC Championship Game seven years. Yes, he's

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Speaker 2: been in five Super Bowls and he won three Super Bowls.

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Speaker 5: Right, I'll take that any day.

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Speaker 3: So that's what he's done lately lately.

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Speaker 5: Okay, just just throw it in lately back then, doesn't matter.

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Speaker 2: I want to ask you about Draymond Green. I'm a

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Speaker 2: fan of Draymond Green. He's one of those guys I

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Speaker 2: would want to have on my team, but wouldn't want

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Speaker 2: to play against us. You know, he's that kind of

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Speaker 2: annoying guy. Draymond to me, is a Charles Barkley wanna be.

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Speaker 2: You know, he's got his own podcast. You know, during

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Speaker 2: the season. He likes to say provocative things. You know,

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Speaker 2: and with all due respect to Draymond, he will never.

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Speaker 3: Be Charles S. Barkley. He's only one Charles Sparkley.

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Speaker 2: But that being said, he came on a podcast and

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Speaker 2: said that the NBA is boring, and he cited a

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Speaker 2: lot of the reasons that I've been saying the NBA

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Speaker 2: is boring for several years.

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Speaker 3: The idea that.

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Speaker 2: I mean, here, here's one thing that is not being

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Speaker 2: talked about enough, is that where's the.

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Speaker 3: Defense right now?

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Speaker 2: I know that you go back twenty years ago when

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Speaker 2: we had games in the seventies and it was.

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Speaker 3: Overkill, like maybe al right, it was.

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Speaker 2: Too physical and you really couldn't get your offenses going,

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Speaker 2: but now it's swung the other way, and so there's

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Speaker 2: very little defense played in the NBA. On top of

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Speaker 2: the idea that everyone just camped out of three point

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Speaker 2: cline launching twenty eight footers. It does not make for

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Speaker 2: an aesthetically appealing game. So I applaud Draymond for calling

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Speaker 2: out the league. I'm sure the league's not happy about that,

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Speaker 2: especially because it's their weekend. The NFL season's over. He

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Speaker 2: got NBA All Star weekend. But this is a league

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Speaker 2: that and I think, you know, I applaud Draymond.

662
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 3: You need to. Somebody has to say it.

663
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 5: I there's I think Lebron said the same thing a

664
00:29:57,880 --> 00:29:59,959
Speaker 5: little bit ago, like this season he said, you know,

665
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 5: too many threes are being taken. Joe Mizzoula, I think

666
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 5: said the opposite and was like, well, his team takes

667
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 5: you know, sixty A games a sixty a game, And

668
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 5: so it's interesting how some are admitting to it and

669
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 5: then others are pretending that it's not an issue. And

670
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 5: I feel like that's another problem within the NBA. I

671
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 5: actually said this to Martin we hosted a show right

672
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 5: before the end of the year. Now it's like the

673
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 5: NBA is failing because everyone's on a different page as

674
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 5: to the message that they are sending out when we

675
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 5: watch we were just talking about a movie. The reason

676
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 5: movies and TV shows sometimes works so well is because

677
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 5: they're all on the same page. Whether it's this ridiculous

678
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 5: script or a scary script, they're all on the same page.

679
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 5: The NBA, all of them are reading a different book.

680
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:45,719
Speaker 5: They're all starring in their own movie, and it's a

681
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 5: different genre. And that's a big problem. That is a

682
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:52,960
Speaker 5: big problem. I agree with Draymond that yes, it is

683
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 5: a bit boring because have you seen like highlights where

684
00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 5: it's like a team shoots a three misses, the team

685
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 5: gets a rebound, shoot another three. They missed, They go

686
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 5: back down, shoot a three miss, they go back down

687
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 5: the other way, shoot another three. It's literally all the time.

688
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 5: It's not fun.

689
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 2: You need a good guy and you need a bad guy. Yeah,

690
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 2: that is always a formula for success. Good versus evil. Sure,

691
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 2: people love good versus evil, and so rivalries now because

692
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 2: you know the argument, well, it's it's wide open the NBA.

693
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 3: We don't have any dynasty anymore. That's not a good thing.

694
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 2: No, you know, when the Warriors and the Cavaliers did

695
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 2: something that had never been done before, play against each

696
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 2: other in four consecutive NBA finals.

697
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 3: You took a side.

698
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 2: Either you were on Lebron's side or you were against

699
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 2: Lebron and you were, you know, rooting for step whatever.

700
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:50,720
Speaker 3: That's good for the NBA. There is no rivalries anymore.

701
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 2: There are no I show videos sometimes to my sons,

702
00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 2: you know, we're in their twenties of what the NBA

703
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 2: look back in the nineties nineties. So I'm not even

704
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 2: talking about Showtime Lakers. Yeah, bird Magic, I'm talking about

705
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 2: the nineties. It was a bloodbath. I mean, the Pistons

706
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 2: had sort of created this, you know, tough guy thing,

707
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 2: and then ironically, pat Riley, who was the coach of

708
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 2: the Showtime Lakers, goes to the Knicks, and the Knicks

709
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 2: were like the Pistons on steroids. I mean, they and

710
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 2: the and the Pacers. These were wars. And if you

711
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 2: are a fan of your team hating the opposing team

712
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 2: as much as you do, where you really get revved up.

713
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 2: I hate that team, I want to beat that team.

714
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 2: And you're not getting that.

715
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 3: From the players now, you know, as everyone's high.

716
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 2: Five Buddy buddy, Oh, buddy, buddy and everything else.

717
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 5: You just got your butt whooped and you're gonna go

718
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 5: dab them. What are we doing?

719
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 2: Lebron To me, the style of play doesn't agree with me.

720
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 2: But that's not the problem. What's the the problem in

721
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 2: the NBA right now is you just got a bunch

722
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 2: of teams. Yeah, there's no rivalries anymore. There's nothing like

723
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 2: the intensity of the rivalries that I think really made

724
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 2: the NBA. There was a time when the NBA was

725
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 2: on such a rise, and it wasn't just Jordan. It was,

726
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 2: as I said, during the nineties, with the emergence of Jordan,

727
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 2: but the team's coming after Jordan and just that intensity

728
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 2: of play that we saw not just in the postseas,

729
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 2: you just saw it all season long. That's what's lacking

730
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 2: from this league right now. It is as as Draymond

731
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 2: Green said, boring.

732
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 5: It's like, why can't we have a little bit of

733
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 5: physicality here in the DFSE please? I don't understand it,

734
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 5: but yes, everyone is buddy, buddy, that what you said

735
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 5: it perfectly like you want to believe that the players

736
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 5: you root for also hate the other team just like

737
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 5: you do. Like you want to believe that, but no,

738
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 5: everybody's friends, everybody has goes to have a drink after

739
00:33:57,800 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 5: and I don't get that. I don't, I don't. I

740
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 5: don't like that. There's very few I think NBA players

741
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:09,320
Speaker 5: who are not buddy buddy type of people like Anthony Edwards.

742
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 3: I don't.

743
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 5: It doesn't seem very buddy buddy. But he doesn't move

744
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 5: the needle.

745
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:13,799
Speaker 3: No.

746
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:18,280
Speaker 2: I was watching an interview with Shay Gilgess Alexander immensely talented.

747
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:22,839
Speaker 2: It's not questioning the talented these players. They got phenomenal talent, right,

748
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,880
Speaker 2: but they're just out there doing their thing and there's just.

749
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 3: None of that rivalry stuff. I mean, is I mean

750
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 3: if you?

751
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 2: I mean, I just I feel sorry because if you're

752
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:37,279
Speaker 2: a basketball fan where basketball is your sport.

753
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:40,360
Speaker 3: And I've talked about my son Garrett, I mean, basketball.

754
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 2: Is everything to him and loves the game and loves

755
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 2: the NBA, loves his Lakers and everything else.

756
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 3: But it's just there needs to be something to play for.

757
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 2: There's got to be a little more intensity, So less

758
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 2: about the style, more about just.

759
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 5: Give me something, give me something, well competitive, be competitive.

760
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:04,840
Speaker 5: It seems like they're not competitive.

761
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,319
Speaker 2: They're not really competitive right now, that is for sure

762
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 2: all right, coming up on the other side. So what

763
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 2: do we make of this NBA All Star weekend and

764
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,839
Speaker 2: is the latest twist The answer will break it down.

765
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 3: This is Fox Sports Saturday.

766
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio Steve Harvey, Montzi

767
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 2: Blanos here at Fox Sports Saturday, coming live from the

768
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 2: Tairaq dot Com studio. So number one Auburn defeated number

769
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 2: two Alabama.

770
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:39,839
Speaker 3: Again. The problem for college basketball is this, No one

771
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 3: remembers any of this.

772
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:44,359
Speaker 2: I mean it's it's March madness is such a phenomenon

773
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 2: in this country. It's one of the greatest events where.

774
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:48,439
Speaker 5: It is super fun.

775
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:51,719
Speaker 2: So so many people around the country that don't watch

776
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:54,759
Speaker 2: a single second of college basketball will fill out that.

777
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 5: Bracket, bracket and hope for the best.

778
00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:59,839
Speaker 2: I told you about my co host back in the day,

779
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 2: uh Courtney Friel like KTLA and she wanted to fill

780
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:09,720
Speaker 2: out a bracket. Okay, so I handed her a bracket

781
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 2: and then she's going down the bracket.

782
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 3: She goes, where is ball Street?

783
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 2: I go, no, st period of state, state and then

784
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 2: she's a Philadelphia girl. So she picked Villanova to win it.

785
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:28,400
Speaker 2: I picked North Carolina to win it Villanova North Carolina

786
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 2: Championship game and Villanova wins.

787
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:31,799
Speaker 5: On a three point of the ball.

788
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:34,880
Speaker 2: There's a picture of us holding up our brackets and

789
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,840
Speaker 2: I'm like, you got to be kiddy. She's asking me

790
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 2: where ball Street is and I'm like ball straight, and

791
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,759
Speaker 2: she wins it, and she went all right. So we

792
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 2: got the NBA All Star Games tomorrow.

793
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:49,799
Speaker 5: Yes, So if you're not.

794
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,319
Speaker 2: Really paying attention, and if you're not, I don't blame you.

795
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 2: This is how this is formatted tomorrow. So no more

796
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 2: two and twenty to two hundred and eighteen.

797
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 3: NBA All Star Game. That those days are.

798
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:05,879
Speaker 5: Over, So I keep this year, don't say forever.

799
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, So they still maintain and this do applaud

800
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:11,720
Speaker 2: them is they weren't going to expand the All.

801
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 3: Star rosters, so you still have twelve players.

802
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:15,799
Speaker 2: From each conference being named to the All Star Team,

803
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 2: which I like. So the idea instead of dividing the

804
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 2: two teams into well two teams, they're going to have

805
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:25,919
Speaker 2: three teams of eight and you got Shaq, Kenny and

806
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:31,319
Speaker 2: Charles Okay, but you have semi finals. So let's say

807
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:35,880
Speaker 2: the three we're missing a team, So what's the fourth team.

808
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:39,720
Speaker 2: The fourth team is made of the Rising Stars, who

809
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 2: technically are not actually All Stars. Okay, so let's say

810
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 2: then the Rising Stars not only win one of the semis,

811
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 2: but actually win the All Star Game. I mean it's unlikely,

812
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 2: obviously they're going against the Blessed, but but let's just

813
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 2: say they pull it off. That would mean the winner

814
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:02,279
Speaker 2: of the the NBA All Star Game would be a

815
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 2: team made up of players none of which were actually

816
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 2: named to the All Star Team.

817
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 5: Yes, and if that happens, that might be the kick

818
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 5: in the butt that the players need to get competitive

819
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:14,799
Speaker 5: when it comes to this game. This game used to

820
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 5: be fun to watch.

821
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 2: You.

822
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,400
Speaker 5: I enjoyed watching the All Star Game. I used to

823
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:22,239
Speaker 5: make a thing of it. Now it's like, oh yeah,

824
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:24,440
Speaker 5: I'm gonna watch well again.

825
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 2: When you have to resort to gimmicks, you gotta wave

826
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 2: the flag, right, much as the NFL with her flag

827
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:36,959
Speaker 2: football game. I mean, just if you want to acknowledge

828
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 2: players as an all star scene. It's different in the

829
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,719
Speaker 2: Pro Bowl because the Pro Bowl is selected at the

830
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:46,719
Speaker 2: end of the year. The All Star Game is a

831
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 2: mid season game.

832
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 1: I mean.

833
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:50,359
Speaker 2: The worst is baseball, where you'll get someone labeled as

834
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:52,759
Speaker 2: an All Star that had a hot one half of

835
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 2: a season and all of a sudden they made the

836
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 2: All Star team.

837
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:57,320
Speaker 3: Oh he was an All Star. I'm not really.

838
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:00,919
Speaker 2: I mean the idea of all star stars mean you're

839
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 2: actually a star. It's not called the sort of star game,

840
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 2: right or could be star game or never was a

841
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 2: star game.

842
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:14,720
Speaker 3: It's the all star game.

843
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:17,760
Speaker 2: That's why I never had a problem with picking players

844
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 2: who may be having an offseason but they're already established.

845
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:23,839
Speaker 3: As a star. I hear you, it's a star.

846
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:29,360
Speaker 2: It's an exhibition. So I don't know how this is

847
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 2: gonna work. So now there are these like half games

848
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 2: or what are they doing?

849
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,760
Speaker 5: No, so it's not time. They just whoever reaches forty

850
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:37,280
Speaker 5: or surpasses forty first.

851
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:39,840
Speaker 2: So there's no halves, no quarters. He just goes straight

852
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 2: through until you get there.

853
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 5: That's how I'm understanding it. And so it'll be Yes,

854
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 5: so Candas is rising Stars will be playing Shacks Parker,

855
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:52,319
Speaker 5: she's coaching Parker correct, and Shaq's OG's then Kenny's team

856
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:55,360
Speaker 5: is playing Chuck's team. Also, the way that that was

857
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:58,839
Speaker 5: drafted seems superscripted, like they knew exactly who they were

858
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:00,319
Speaker 5: going to draft. I was like, no, no, no, Now, this

859
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 5: was all planned out. Did you see the teams?

860
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:02,759
Speaker 3: I did?

861
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:03,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, and with the names.

862
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 2: By the way, Shack's team is the old team exactly.

863
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 4: He's got all the old timers.

864
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 5: Absolutely, and then Chuck has all the like international players.

865
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 3: Yes, you see that how that works?

866
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:13,840
Speaker 1: No?

867
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:15,800
Speaker 5: I was like, this was so scripted, you guys.

868
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:18,359
Speaker 2: Come on, all right, Well, if the NBA is looking

869
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:20,719
Speaker 2: for attention, not the way to go about. Much more

870
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:22,759
Speaker 2: coming up here on Fox Sports Saturday.

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Speaker 1: Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

872
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:27,799
Speaker 4: All right?

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880
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Speaker 2: Did your Valentine do it right for Valentine's Day?

881
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 3: Yesterday?

882
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:55,879
Speaker 5: The valentine was working till late, but you know, we

883
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 5: ended up having a cocktail and got the flowers and

884
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:01,839
Speaker 5: so it was great. It was great. But he worked

885
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 5: later than I did, so I had a Gallantine's Day

886
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 5: happy Hour cocktail and then I went out of Cocktail's

887
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:11,720
Speaker 5: with the validie. So it was a great day for me. Excellent, excellent.

888
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 2: It's amazing how she maintains, isn't it over the years

889
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 2: because love tequila.

890
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:21,320
Speaker 5: I really really do. I really do. And that's exactly

891
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 5: what I had.

892
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 3: Yes, I can't remember the last time I had any tequila.

893
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:26,879
Speaker 2: It's been so long, you know. Here's again, the problem

894
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:29,759
Speaker 2: with tequila is simply this. If you if you have

895
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 2: the bad stuff.

896
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:32,759
Speaker 3: Early where you know, you you.

897
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 2: Know, college years, and you know, those were the years

898
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 2: when I was, you know, drinking to excess, yes, and

899
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:42,799
Speaker 2: and then you have bad tequila, and there's there's a

900
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:47,239
Speaker 2: different level of good tequila and bad tequila. But if

901
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 2: you have the bad stuff, somehow, it's it's hard to

902
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 2: get that out of your mind.

903
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:51,400
Speaker 6: You know.

904
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 5: Luckily I'm past that. Like, if you give me bad tequila,

905
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:57,320
Speaker 5: I'm not drinking it. In college, I was like, yeah, whatever,

906
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 5: you know, But now no, no, I know a good it is,

907
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 5: and I know what that is, and I.

908
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 2: Won't There is a real discrepancy that's good and bad tequila. Yes,

909
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 2: all right, I wanted to ask you this because if

910
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 2: you don't know about Moncey with the many many hats

911
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 2: that she wears and a variety of positions, she's had

912
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:18,360
Speaker 2: a long association with the Dodgers organization. I want to

913
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:21,239
Speaker 2: get your thoughts about show Hey. So he had his

914
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:25,320
Speaker 2: first bullpen of the spring, and they're getting him ready

915
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 2: obviously to bitch.

916
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 3: This year for the Dodgers very exciting.

917
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 2: Well, I'm anxious to see how he fares. I mean,

918
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:35,279
Speaker 2: he's had two significant arm surgeries.

919
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:37,320
Speaker 5: I mean Tommy John without saying Tommy John.

920
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 3: Right right, it wasn't technically Tommy.

921
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:43,319
Speaker 2: John, but it was, and he's already had a Tommy

922
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 2: John exactly.

923
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 3: But some people are like throwing it out there, like

924
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:49,280
Speaker 3: what are you doing?

925
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:49,919
Speaker 5: Why?

926
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:50,279
Speaker 2: Why?

927
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 6: Why?

928
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:53,240
Speaker 2: I mean this because when you think about the Dodgers

929
00:42:53,520 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 2: regular season, Mookie had an off year, Freddy Free even

930
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:02,840
Speaker 2: had an off year. Neither one came close to the

931
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:05,720
Speaker 2: numbers that they had put up the previous several years.

932
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 2: Us a Taskar Hernandez obviously had a great year for them.

933
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 3: He might have been their second best hitter. But if

934
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:12,879
Speaker 3: it wasn't for.

935
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 2: Show Hey having this historic season, I don't know how

936
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 2: it would look for the Dodgers, they were not you know,

937
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:24,759
Speaker 2: the pitching staff was in shambles half the year, and

938
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 2: he had this superhuman season.

939
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 3: Rightfully voted unanimously.

940
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 2: Is MVP to get him across the finish line and

941
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 2: then into the postseason. Obviously, Freddie Freeman came up huge

942
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 2: in the World Series and the pitching came through in

943
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 2: the postseason, so things changed in the postseason. But if

944
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 2: it wasn't for show Hay in the regular season, I'm

945
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 2: not quite sure that they were guaranteed a spot. So

946
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:49,880
Speaker 2: some people are saying, Okay, it was sort of a

947
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 2: novelty act with the Angels because they were never in contention, right,

948
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 2: But you know, show Hey, now, when you pitch for

949
00:43:57,560 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 2: the Dodgers, you're in a lot of big games, the

950
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 2: counting on you to be their ace. And what kind

951
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 2: of strain is that going to put on him? And

952
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 2: could it have an adverse effect on his offense? You said, well,

953
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 2: look at his numbers offensively with the Angels. Okay, but

954
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:13,720
Speaker 2: they weren't really playing for a lot in those days.

955
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 5: Right, It's different.

956
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 2: It's a completely different game when you're on a team,

957
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 2: especially this year, that is expected to follow up their

958
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 2: World Series win with an even better season in twenty

959
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 2: twenty five. Do you have any concerns about Showhy actually

960
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 2: trying to go back to doing both.

961
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:36,439
Speaker 5: Of course there are concerns. I'm actually surprised that he's

962
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 5: already pitching. I really thought we weren't going to see

963
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:42,280
Speaker 5: him pitch yet at all, like not even a couple

964
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 5: of you know, because they said he's not going to

965
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 5: have a rehab session. He's not doing that in this

966
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:49,719
Speaker 5: Cactus League. He's just going to keep dhing and then

967
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 5: like pitching on the side. Of course, there's a bit

968
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:55,880
Speaker 5: of an uneasiness if you think about it, because you

969
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 5: don't want him to get hurt and to affect what

970
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 5: he does dhing obviously, but I I don't I don't

971
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 5: think you you don't do it, even even though I'm uneasy,

972
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 5: even though I'm like, you know, approach with caution. I'm

973
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 5: definitely still gonna say, you go out there and you

974
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 5: try to pitch. You're not wrong, though, because the Dodgers

975
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 5: have a target on their back that has escalated, especially

976
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:23,799
Speaker 5: coming into this season because of all the signings that

977
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:26,319
Speaker 5: they've been doing, and you know, everyone hating on them

978
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 5: because of how much money they spent, which it's going to,

979
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:32,720
Speaker 5: like you said, it's going to translate to him having

980
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 5: a lot more pressure going out there every single time

981
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:38,240
Speaker 5: he pitches, because everyone's going to try to beat the Dodgers.

982
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 5: But teams who are not in contention when they play

983
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 5: the Dodgers, all of a sudden they want to play

984
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 5: the best. That that just happens, right, So what happens

985
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 5: when you have a good team, and so there is

986
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 5: a lot of risk, But I just don't see how

987
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:51,959
Speaker 5: you don't take the risk.

988
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:54,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I.

989
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:59,400
Speaker 3: Agree with it initially. Let's see how let's see what

990
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 3: happens you have but if there.

991
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 2: Is even a sign of trouble, a hint of trouble,

992
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 2: I again, shoe Hay will be thirty one in July,

993
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:12,400
Speaker 2: So he's not twenty five, twenty six years old anymore.

994
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:13,920
Speaker 3: And for a picture that matters.

995
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:18,359
Speaker 2: And when you throw as hard as Otani does, there's

996
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 2: a reason why he's had armed troubles.

997
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 3: Look, the numbers don't lie.

998
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 2: When you look at twenty one, twenty two, and twenty

999
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:29,319
Speaker 2: three with the Angels, I mean he was thirty four

1000
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 2: and sixteen, you know, with an era below three, you know,

1001
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 2: and as I've said many times, stop with the Baby

1002
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:46,480
Speaker 2: Ruth comparisons.

1003
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 3: Okay, there's no comparison.

1004
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 4: There's not.

1005
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:51,920
Speaker 2: Babe Ruth was a dominant pitcher, and then there was

1006
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 2: this very brief period where he was trying both. But

1007
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:58,840
Speaker 2: when he left the Red Sox to go the Yankees

1008
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:02,479
Speaker 2: and became a full timeout. So that no one's done this. Now,

1009
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:04,880
Speaker 2: this is a once in a lifetime. There was a

1010
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:07,440
Speaker 2: guy in the old Negro League's named Bullet Rogan. Some

1011
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 2: people have actually looked this guy up. I mean this,

1012
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:13,799
Speaker 2: this is I'm throwing my usual Rogan. Bullet Rogan, what

1013
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:16,319
Speaker 2: a name. Yeah, this guy could do both, okay, way

1014
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:17,920
Speaker 2: back in the day. But again, they weren't playing one

1015
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 2: hundred and sixty two games seas since. And I just

1016
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 2: be cautious with this.

1017
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 5: I don't disagree with you. I still say you take

1018
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:28,759
Speaker 5: the risk, and I agree like, if there is a

1019
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:31,840
Speaker 5: hint of something, you know, maybe not working out, or

1020
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 5: he starts to feel a little uncomfortable in this, then

1021
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 5: then you halt it. I'm with you, but right now

1022
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 5: you were. You came to the Dodgers as a two

1023
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:42,440
Speaker 5: way player, and I also think he wants to do it.

1024
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 5: You know what I mean, Like, I don't think anyone's

1025
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 5: forcing him. I think he's pushing it. I think he

1026
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:48,799
Speaker 5: would have pitched in the World Series if they would

1027
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:49,400
Speaker 5: have let him.

1028
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:51,400
Speaker 3: Well, the one thing he didn't do was hit in

1029
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 3: the World Series.

1030
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 5: He did it is not hot.

1031
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 2: He was you know, no one even noticed this because

1032
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:57,880
Speaker 2: it was such a great victory for the Dodgers. He

1033
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:02,759
Speaker 2: was two for nineteen zero zero home runs, zero RBIs.

1034
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:05,319
Speaker 2: He hit one oh five in the World Series. In

1035
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:06,920
Speaker 2: other words, he was a bust.

1036
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:10,360
Speaker 3: He was an absolute in the World Series.

1037
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:12,719
Speaker 2: He had a great League Championship series against the Mets,

1038
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:14,840
Speaker 2: but in the World Series he was a bus So

1039
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 2: you know, if I'm showhy and you've done everything else,

1040
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:21,279
Speaker 2: I want to that's that's the award I want. I

1041
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:23,759
Speaker 2: want to be World Series MVP. I want to do

1042
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 2: what Freddie Freeman did on the biggest stage. That's an

1043
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 2: MVP performer.

1044
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 5: It is crazy how he had such a great regular season.

1045
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:33,719
Speaker 5: Literally remember what, Mookie got hurt and then they put

1046
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:36,880
Speaker 5: him up to lead off and it was amazing leading

1047
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:40,279
Speaker 5: off as a hitter, and then come World Series and

1048
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 5: he just fell flat completely completely. But then luckily the

1049
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 5: others rose to the occasion and we talked about that

1050
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 5: when it was you're not even you don't even remember.

1051
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 5: I actually did not know that that was the average

1052
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 5: for the World Series one five.

1053
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:57,440
Speaker 2: I had no idea two for nineteen zero homers, zero RBI.

1054
00:48:57,560 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 5: I knew he didn't have any harmors because everybody was

1055
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 5: obviously track of that. I think I remember the rbs.

1056
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 5: But if you would have told me, did you what

1057
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 5: was his batting average?

1058
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:06,439
Speaker 4: One?

1059
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 5: Like I don't know too ten or so.

1060
00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:11,359
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, Like, wow, but no, And

1061
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:13,360
Speaker 2: that's his career world serious batty average.

1062
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:13,839
Speaker 5: That's it.

1063
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:16,800
Speaker 1: Average.

1064
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:18,799
Speaker 3: I'll take him on my team any time, any day.

1065
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 2: I mean, this is going to be something that And

1066
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:23,759
Speaker 2: look the Dodgers when you look at it right now,

1067
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:25,279
Speaker 2: and they resigned Kershaw.

1068
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:28,120
Speaker 3: That's another thing about Kershaw. Okay, well.

1069
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:30,480
Speaker 5: Start talking about about it.

1070
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:32,759
Speaker 3: He's a first ballot Hall of Yeah.

1071
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:34,319
Speaker 5: But you can't let him go. You can't let him

1072
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:34,760
Speaker 5: go anywhere.

1073
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 2: Why is he still around? He's already had his Hall

1074
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:41,960
Speaker 2: of Fame career. He got a gift here this past year.

1075
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 2: He only pits seven games, he gets a second World

1076
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 2: Series rang, you go off on the sunset, what are

1077
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:49,120
Speaker 2: we talking to?

1078
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 3: He says, he's not.

1079
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:53,400
Speaker 2: Even going to be ready till maybe June. You already

1080
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 2: have six starting pitchers. You're going to put him back

1081
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:56,719
Speaker 2: in the rotation.

1082
00:49:57,160 --> 00:49:58,440
Speaker 3: Why is he still around?

1083
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:01,479
Speaker 5: I think he wants to go off on his own

1084
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:03,800
Speaker 5: terms and not go because of it, he says.

1085
00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:05,800
Speaker 2: I only he made it clear, I'm only going to

1086
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:07,759
Speaker 2: play for the Dodgers. Yes, I'm never going to play

1087
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:10,880
Speaker 2: for another organization. And it was only a seven and

1088
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:13,080
Speaker 2: a half million dollar deal, way below what.

1089
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:13,719
Speaker 3: He used to make.

1090
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 2: But I mean, come on, just retire five years, first

1091
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 2: ballot Hall of Fame. I think he still would be

1092
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:22,759
Speaker 2: the organization. Yeah, I think he can take up a

1093
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 2: roster spot.

1094
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:25,600
Speaker 5: Remember he tried to pitch and then he got his

1095
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 5: foot issue, and then.

1096
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 3: He had two surgeries in the offseason.

1097
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:32,440
Speaker 5: Right but once the season started or when he started

1098
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:35,239
Speaker 5: getting back ramping up, he hurt his foot and then

1099
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:38,400
Speaker 5: he wasn't able to actually really go out there and

1100
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Speaker 5: see if he still had anything left in the tank.

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Speaker 5: And I think that's what it is.

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00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 2: Well, maybe he doesn't want to end his career with

1103
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:47,200
Speaker 2: his last postseason game. He walked off the mount within

1104
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 2: an the are of one hundred and sixty two in

1105
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 2: that game, six runs in a third of an inn exactly.

1106
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Speaker 5: That's how he wants to go out.

1107
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:54,600
Speaker 3: That was his last post.

1108
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Speaker 5: You wouldn't want to go out like that either, I know,

1109
00:50:57,280 --> 00:50:58,960
Speaker 5: but I just I don't like it.

1110
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:02,480
Speaker 2: When I mean, I get, I mean I'm being hypocritical here,

1111
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 2: because my attitude is a non athlete is that as

1112
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:09,760
Speaker 2: an athlete, because very few athletes actually retire when they should, well,

1113
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 2: they very rarely retire. In other words, they are retired.

1114
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 2: In other words, you can't play anymore, so goodbye. That's

1115
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:20,200
Speaker 2: how it is for ninety nine percent of athletes. But

1116
00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:22,839
Speaker 2: the few that actually are in a position to make

1117
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:26,240
Speaker 2: their own decision, I just don't you know, you started

1118
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:27,800
Speaker 2: just extending your career.

1119
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 3: This what we talked earlier.

1120
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:32,799
Speaker 2: About Aaron Rodgers, Like what I mean, if I get it,

1121
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:35,760
Speaker 2: he went to the Jets because on paper, look like, okay,

1122
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:38,960
Speaker 2: they're a quarterback away. They had a great defense on paper,

1123
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:42,359
Speaker 2: they had some young offensive weapons on paper, and now

1124
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:44,239
Speaker 2: you bring in a legitimate quarterback.

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Speaker 3: That makes sense.

1126
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 2: But if you were to sign on with a team

1127
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 2: like the Raiders, now you're just now you're just playing

1128
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:51,280
Speaker 2: for the sake of playing and getting a paycheck.

1129
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 5: And that example, I actually don't think translate exactly to

1130
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:57,279
Speaker 5: the Kershaw situation because he's staying with the team that

1131
00:51:57,320 --> 00:51:58,440
Speaker 5: he's been with his whole career.

1132
00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, but at some point, do you want to be

1133
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 2: the bad guys the Dodgers seeing all right, we know

1134
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 2: you want to still play, Clayton, but honestly, it's over.

1135
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:08,920
Speaker 2: You're you're putting them in a possible situation. He's one

1136
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 2: of the greatest Dodgers.

1137
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:11,160
Speaker 3: Of all time.

1138
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:15,279
Speaker 2: You don't want to be saying to him, Clayton, you

1139
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:17,880
Speaker 2: know we love you. Well, maybe you're a Dodger, you're

1140
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:20,279
Speaker 2: a Hall of Famer, but it's worth over.

1141
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:22,680
Speaker 5: Maybe it's just worth having him in the clubhouse.

1142
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:24,480
Speaker 3: Well then Bram was a coach.

1143
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 5: Well he's not ready, Steve, he wants to he still

1144
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 5: has some in the tank.

1145
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, Well switch gears.

1146
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:33,640
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1147
00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:36,759
Speaker 2: one man that is all over it is our Fox

1148
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1149
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:46,200
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1150
00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:48,799
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1156
00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:05,400
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1157
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:08,279
Speaker 2: you need to get another dose of this guy.

1158
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 3: He's all over.

1159
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:12,319
Speaker 2: The place right now as we are well immersed in

1160
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:15,960
Speaker 2: the NBA season. He is our NBA insider tomorrow is

1161
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 2: going to do a couple hours.

1162
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:20,240
Speaker 3: Of Mike Harmon right before my show with Rich. Looking

1163
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:22,960
Speaker 3: forward to that our show with Rich tomorrow. The great

1164
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 3: Mark Madina is joining us right now. Mark working overtime.

1165
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 9: Here, just trying to keep up with you all.

1166
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:32,520
Speaker 2: You know, it's always fun of this time. I want

1167
00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:36,120
Speaker 2: to get right to this Draymond Green comment. I've never

1168
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 2: been well. I'm a fan of Draymond. I always thought

1169
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 2: that he was underrated in college. I was surprised when

1170
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:44,960
Speaker 2: he dropped into the second round. I like his game

1171
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:46,799
Speaker 2: as long as he's on my team and not the

1172
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 2: other team. But a lot of stuff he's done over

1173
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:52,920
Speaker 2: the years that I've not been particularly pleased with but

1174
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:53,680
Speaker 2: his comment.

1175
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:56,560
Speaker 9: Wait, let me clarify. You're not a fan of him

1176
00:53:56,560 --> 00:53:58,160
Speaker 9: putting Rody golbar in at choke hold.

1177
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:02,000
Speaker 2: No, take things to the extreme like that are kicking

1178
00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:04,600
Speaker 2: guys in the groin, you know, Lebron, Yeah, there's some

1179
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:08,160
Speaker 2: of the he's stepped over the light. But I think

1180
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:10,880
Speaker 2: that he has said something that others.

1181
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:12,320
Speaker 4: I mean, Lebron made.

1182
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:14,960
Speaker 2: A comment earlier this year about too much three point shooting,

1183
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 2: but Draymond really took a next level by just saying, look,

1184
00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:20,880
Speaker 2: this game is boring right now. There's a lack of

1185
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:24,919
Speaker 2: physicality in this game. Everyone just camping out the three

1186
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:28,200
Speaker 2: point line. I take it even a step further sometimes,

1187
00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:32,839
Speaker 2: Mark that what really is lacking is a level of intensity.

1188
00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:35,840
Speaker 2: And Mark, you remember the days as I do. You

1189
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:38,080
Speaker 2: look at the NBA in the nineties, forget showtime in

1190
00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 2: the eighties. Okay, let's just talk about the intensity. And yeah,

1191
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:43,000
Speaker 2: you said, well, those are a bunch of seventy seven

1192
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:47,440
Speaker 2: to seventy two games. Okay, maybe the defense was too much,

1193
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:50,280
Speaker 2: but there was a level of intensity in the regular

1194
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:56,320
Speaker 2: season rivalries, I mean, like real rivalries that the fans

1195
00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:59,640
Speaker 2: dug because that's how fans feel, and they want their

1196
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 2: team to feel the same animosity to the opposition that

1197
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:05,799
Speaker 2: they feel. And I just feel like at this point,

1198
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:09,440
Speaker 2: mark those days are long gone in the NBA.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, and a lot of good points you hit on

1200
00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:15,840
Speaker 9: with that, Steve. And there's two I think overlapping things,

1201
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:19,720
Speaker 9: the two distinguishable things to unpack here that I don't

1202
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:23,240
Speaker 9: have a problem about today's NBA being more about threes

1203
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:26,080
Speaker 9: and Draymond saying, oh, we sag off three point line.

1204
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 9: Some coaches actually encourage defenders to do that because they say,

1205
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:33,480
Speaker 9: you know, what best defense is no defense. Let's make

1206
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:36,920
Speaker 9: us a chess match and bait poor shooters to take

1207
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:40,239
Speaker 9: outside shots. Totally fine with that. But the thing that

1208
00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:42,360
Speaker 9: I do have a problem with is what you mentioned,

1209
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:47,080
Speaker 9: the lack of intensity, whether it's physical or not or finesse.

1210
00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:51,319
Speaker 9: Every single game doesn't feel like an event as it

1211
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:53,560
Speaker 9: was in the nineties. And part of it is, yeah,

1212
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:56,480
Speaker 9: we're in the social media era where fans are on

1213
00:55:56,520 --> 00:55:59,799
Speaker 9: their phones and you know, everything's just about you know,

1214
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:03,799
Speaker 9: highlight reels and not watching the game. But I think

1215
00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:06,600
Speaker 9: it's also just the overall feeling of what a game

1216
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:08,960
Speaker 9: actually means. So that's not how it used to be.

1217
00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:14,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, because everybody's buddy buddy, Mark, everybody's everybody's homies with

1218
00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:14,520
Speaker 5: each other.

1219
00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:18,640
Speaker 9: Yeah, that's the other thing. I mean, the some of

1220
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:23,480
Speaker 9: it you understand because they grew up playing together on

1221
00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:28,799
Speaker 9: AAU teams and with free agency, player fluid movement, you

1222
00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:32,000
Speaker 9: have all these alliances. But you don't see a lot

1223
00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:35,120
Speaker 9: of times when you're on the court that that players

1224
00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:37,680
Speaker 9: want to go at each other. You know, Draymond Greens

1225
00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:40,759
Speaker 9: can sometimes be the real exception and he crosses over

1226
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:43,600
Speaker 9: the line. But yeah, we don't see that kind of

1227
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:47,839
Speaker 9: feeling that it's us against the world. When teams match up,

1228
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:50,080
Speaker 9: it's almost like a game within a game. You only

1229
00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:53,480
Speaker 9: see that kind of chip on your shoulder when a

1230
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:56,520
Speaker 9: player gets traded or left for free agency and he

1231
00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:59,279
Speaker 9: wants to have a good game against his former team.

1232
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:03,719
Speaker 9: But beyond you see more of you know, the friendships

1233
00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:06,200
Speaker 9: on the other side as opposed to want to beat them.

1234
00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:08,799
Speaker 2: All right, So we have this new format for the

1235
00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:11,840
Speaker 2: All Star Game. I can't even call it an All Star.

1236
00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:12,160
Speaker 3: Game, all right.

1237
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:14,960
Speaker 2: So anyway, the idea of the format here, Mark, is

1238
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:17,400
Speaker 2: the idea that you have now three teams of eight,

1239
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:20,680
Speaker 2: where you have Shaq, Kenny, and Chuck picking a team

1240
00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:23,240
Speaker 2: and then you're like, well, how do you have where's

1241
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:25,120
Speaker 2: the four team? Well, the fourth team is the Future

1242
00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:27,920
Speaker 2: Stars team with Candas Parker. So and none of these

1243
00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:31,480
Speaker 2: guys are All Stars technically future Stars. You hope there's

1244
00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:34,960
Speaker 2: future Stars. Very few of the Future Stars actually become stars,

1245
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:40,680
Speaker 2: but that's another story. So what happens if the Future

1246
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:43,600
Speaker 2: Stars team coach by Kanadas Parker ends up winning this

1247
00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:44,080
Speaker 2: whole thing?

1248
00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:45,880
Speaker 3: In other words, the All Star.

1249
00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:49,400
Speaker 2: Game is won by a team that has zero All

1250
00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:50,280
Speaker 2: Stars on it.

1251
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:54,240
Speaker 9: Well, if that happens, huge indictment on the current NBA

1252
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:55,880
Speaker 9: All Stars because.

1253
00:57:56,280 --> 00:57:57,480
Speaker 3: They don't want to play.

1254
00:57:57,920 --> 00:57:59,880
Speaker 9: That means that they did not show up to play.

1255
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:03,160
Speaker 9: And I think that's part of the thinking of why

1256
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:07,040
Speaker 9: this format was constructed the way it is. That Rising

1257
00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:11,040
Speaker 9: Star Championship team they're going to play Shacks team, which

1258
00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:15,080
Speaker 9: is consistent of all the old veterans. So instinctively, the

1259
00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:17,440
Speaker 9: old guys are going to want to show, Okay, this

1260
00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:19,960
Speaker 9: is what it takes to win. The young guys want

1261
00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:22,960
Speaker 9: to show a show that they deserve respect. So maybe

1262
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:27,160
Speaker 9: that brings out the competitive juices the other side of

1263
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:33,040
Speaker 9: the bracket is it's international stars against domestic young stars,

1264
00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:37,160
Speaker 9: and maybe that taps into the nationalistic pride. And then

1265
00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:39,920
Speaker 9: the winner of both those games space off in the

1266
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:44,240
Speaker 9: championship game and it's you know, winner has to score

1267
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:47,200
Speaker 9: forty points at that time. So all these games are

1268
00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:50,480
Speaker 9: going to take place Sundays, starting at eight o'clock Eastern.

1269
00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:53,480
Speaker 9: So with that, I think short term, we're going to

1270
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:57,280
Speaker 9: see some good basketball tomorrow. But as I wrote earlier

1271
00:58:57,280 --> 00:59:00,880
Speaker 9: this week, I've got this is and that's going to

1272
00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:03,960
Speaker 9: last beyond this season. I think next season you'll see

1273
00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:07,000
Speaker 9: the same old trope of guys not taking the game seriously,

1274
00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:11,080
Speaker 9: not playing defense because there's precedent for it. Guys. You

1275
00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:13,680
Speaker 9: may recall in twenty twenty, the All Star Game in

1276
00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:17,720
Speaker 9: Chicago is a month after Kobe Bryant's tragedy and an

1277
00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:20,640
Speaker 9: honor of Kobe, they decided, hey, because Kobe's all about

1278
00:59:20,680 --> 00:59:24,400
Speaker 9: the Mama mentality and competitive juices, let's have a target

1279
00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:27,080
Speaker 9: score that teams have to reach, the twenty four, honor

1280
00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:30,880
Speaker 9: of his jersey number. That game, it was competitive, it

1281
00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:35,680
Speaker 9: was great. The next year, no one cared again. So yeah,

1282
00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:38,240
Speaker 9: it's cool short term, but the bottom line guys. Is

1283
00:59:38,280 --> 00:59:40,040
Speaker 9: they just have to care. They have to give a

1284
00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:43,720
Speaker 9: you know what to make this game earlier and are meaningful,

1285
00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:46,120
Speaker 9: and they can't rely on gimmicks. It has to come

1286
00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:49,320
Speaker 9: down to players buying in and take it seriously. Unfortunately

1287
00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:50,280
Speaker 9: we haven't seen them do to that.

1288
00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:52,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm with you, Mark. I do think it's going

1289
00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:54,880
Speaker 5: to be competitive because of the format, but really be

1290
00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:57,520
Speaker 5: competitive next year and that's the big question. The three

1291
00:59:57,560 --> 01:00:01,479
Speaker 5: point shooting contest is whatever nobody wants to watch. That

1292
01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:07,400
Speaker 5: is exciting every single time. Slam Dunk Contest not so much.

1293
01:00:07,720 --> 01:00:09,160
Speaker 9: You're not a fan of Mac McClung.

1294
01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:09,800
Speaker 4: I am.

1295
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:12,640
Speaker 5: I hold on, and I am a fan of Mac McClung.

1296
01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:17,320
Speaker 2: This guy has played five NBA, right, because he's played

1297
01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:18,479
Speaker 2: one game this year.

1298
01:00:18,720 --> 01:00:22,560
Speaker 5: Right, he is awesome. He is awesome. But the slam

1299
01:00:22,640 --> 01:00:26,480
Speaker 5: dunk Contest are we gonna be saying goodbye to it?

1300
01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:27,040
Speaker 5: You think?

1301
01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:30,400
Speaker 9: Well, Steve, I think was kind of alluding to Mac McClung.

1302
01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:33,680
Speaker 9: Is no Dominique Wilkins or with str rain or even

1303
01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:38,480
Speaker 9: Dence Carter. So yeah, the dunk contest isn't tough. I know, Mac,

1304
01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:41,200
Speaker 9: you know, to a man, he's given some good performances

1305
01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:43,479
Speaker 9: that I think they should do away with it. Bost

1306
01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:46,760
Speaker 9: this Loster guys have done every single thing under the sun.

1307
01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:49,480
Speaker 9: I think the three point contest is great because of

1308
01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:53,560
Speaker 9: today's shooters. It is disappointing that, you know, after seeing

1309
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Speaker 9: the success with Steph Curry and Sabrine iron Ascu, that

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Speaker 9: they couldn't do that again, especially since you know, off

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Speaker 9: our weekend and is in San Francisco where Curry is.

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Speaker 9: But yeah, they still have a good field that'll make

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Speaker 9: it worth our while to watch. But everything else, I mean,

1314
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Speaker 9: that skills competition that's been unwatchable from the jump. I

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Speaker 9: don't even know why they have that to begin with.

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01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:18,800
Speaker 9: But the dunk contest, they're keeping it for tradition's sake,

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Speaker 9: but that's lost. It's lost your two.

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Speaker 5: You might as well let locals play in this loun

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Speaker 5: dunk contest.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I'll tell you what else they need to

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Speaker 2: do away with and start over again.

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Speaker 3: As the Basketball Hall of Fame. Okay, so.

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Speaker 2: Here's what I've never understood mark about the basketball Hall

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Speaker 2: of Fame.

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Speaker 4: There is a.

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Speaker 2: Separate women's basketball Hall of Fame. There is a college

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Speaker 2: basketball Hall of Fame. There is an International Basketball Hall

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Speaker 2: of Fame. You know what, there's not an NBA Hall

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Speaker 2: of Fame, So the NBA players have to share their

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Speaker 2: Hall of Fame with all these other people.

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Speaker 3: And just never made sense the NBA.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you have a pro football Hall of Fame,

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Speaker 2: you got a college football Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I've just never understood this.

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Speaker 2: But that being said, mellow, obviously he's going to be

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Speaker 2: a first ballot guy. But Dwight Howard to me, in

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Speaker 2: some ways, in retrospect of his career, maybe one of

1339
01:02:12,080 --> 01:02:16,840
Speaker 2: the most underappreciated players in NBA history. What I mean,

1340
01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:20,280
Speaker 2: you obviously covered him in an NBA remember his ill

1341
01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:22,960
Speaker 2: fated first run with the Lakers. The second one went

1342
01:02:23,080 --> 01:02:25,560
Speaker 2: a little bit better with him getting a ring. But

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Speaker 2: do you think that I mean, I expect he'll be

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Speaker 2: a first ballot Hall of Famer. I mean, they put

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Speaker 2: Monogenobile in on the first ballot. But do you think

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Speaker 2: that he gets the do he deserves for his NBA career?

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Speaker 9: No, because his career had two distinctly different chapters when

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Speaker 9: he was in Orlando. If his career ended the way

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Speaker 9: it did in Orlando, he would have already been a

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Speaker 9: first ballot Hall of Family because he was a dominant

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Speaker 9: big guy and he was one of the young rising stars.

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Speaker 9: It's just everything else after that that came at his

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Speaker 9: with just how he handled his trade requests and his

1354
01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:05,920
Speaker 9: exit out of Orlando and then him not being ready

1355
01:03:05,960 --> 01:03:08,120
Speaker 9: even when you consider, you know, him coming out the

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Speaker 9: back surgery, he clearly is not ready to be that

1357
01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:14,960
Speaker 9: superstar player to carry you know, a Lakers franchise. And

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Speaker 9: then you know every team he played with and had

1359
01:03:18,960 --> 01:03:21,520
Speaker 9: a very hasty exit with the Rockets, he and James

1360
01:03:21,520 --> 01:03:24,880
Speaker 9: Harden not playing well together and coexisting enough to win

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Speaker 9: a championship. And then you know his time in Atlanta

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Speaker 9: and Charlotte barely lasted beyond the season. So I think

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Speaker 9: even with all those bad chapters, he deserves to be

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Speaker 9: in the Hall of Fame because of what he did

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Speaker 9: in Orlando. But if I'm comparing him to someone like

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Speaker 9: Carmelo Anthony, I think Carmelo has a better body of work.

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Speaker 9: And you know, Carmelo certainly had his own share criticism

1368
01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:52,160
Speaker 9: of hey, he's just a scorer, doesn't play defense, he

1369
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Speaker 9: didn't win a championship. But when you look at his

1370
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Speaker 9: really good skill set as a score, I mean you

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01:03:57,920 --> 01:04:01,280
Speaker 9: can make the argument that he's a top five score ever,

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Speaker 9: just because of how dominant and consistent he was as

1373
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Speaker 9: opposed to player, and how he relied on his footwork

1374
01:04:08,080 --> 01:04:11,320
Speaker 9: and power to just be an unstoppable weapon, where with Dwight,

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Speaker 9: you know, his skill set was being a dominant big man.

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01:04:15,040 --> 01:04:18,760
Speaker 9: But you know, once he lost his athleticism, he didn't

1377
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Speaker 9: have the fundamentimals to fall back on. So you know

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Speaker 9: there's a reason that, Yeah, he was valued towards the

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01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:28,320
Speaker 9: end of his career as a backup center that can

1380
01:04:28,400 --> 01:04:31,520
Speaker 9: make blocks, but he wasn't seen as ever a complete player.

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Speaker 5: Last one from me, Mark. I know everybody, including myself

1382
01:04:35,360 --> 01:04:38,520
Speaker 5: couldn't stop talking about Luca going to the Lakers, obviously,

1383
01:04:38,800 --> 01:04:42,040
Speaker 5: but I feel like Jimmy Butler and the Warriors are

1384
01:04:42,160 --> 01:04:45,320
Speaker 5: a match made in Heaven. They don't need a guy

1385
01:04:45,360 --> 01:04:47,320
Speaker 5: to take threes, They have that taken care of. They

1386
01:04:47,320 --> 01:04:50,520
Speaker 5: need a guy who gets in there, drives, takes a foul,

1387
01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:54,040
Speaker 5: shoots and makes baskets when Steph is on the bench.

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Speaker 5: Am I crazy? Or do you also see that?

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Speaker 9: Not only do I see it? You said is exactly

1390
01:05:01,120 --> 01:05:04,560
Speaker 9: what Steve kersaid when the Warriors got him He's a

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01:05:04,680 --> 01:05:07,200
Speaker 9: very good compliment to what they have. You know, they

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01:05:07,280 --> 01:05:10,240
Speaker 9: need a secondary score to relief staff from all the

1393
01:05:10,280 --> 01:05:13,240
Speaker 9: pressure of game double team, and he's a proven score

1394
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Speaker 9: and he does it in completely different way. He's not

1395
01:05:15,120 --> 01:05:17,440
Speaker 9: a free point shooter. He's a mid range shooter. He

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01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:20,360
Speaker 9: drives the basket, he gets free throws, and this season

1397
01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:24,680
Speaker 9: the Warriors struggled getting to the basket and getting foul shots. Yes,

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01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:27,040
Speaker 9: he and Draymond they are inevitably going to have, you know,

1399
01:05:27,120 --> 01:05:29,440
Speaker 9: trash talking moments, but I think it's mostly for the

1400
01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:33,280
Speaker 9: better because they're established veterans. There's no pecking order about,

1401
01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:35,320
Speaker 9: you know, like a Jordan Poole, where Draymond will a

1402
01:05:35,360 --> 01:05:40,360
Speaker 9: big exception to a young guy Chirpin. And they're very competitive.

1403
01:05:40,440 --> 01:05:43,200
Speaker 9: They have an edge, and that's what the Warriors need.

1404
01:05:43,520 --> 01:05:46,560
Speaker 9: Steve Kerr would often lament. While he often you know,

1405
01:05:46,600 --> 01:05:50,600
Speaker 9: would complain in recent years about Draymond stepping over the line,

1406
01:05:50,960 --> 01:05:52,880
Speaker 9: at the same time, he would also say, hey, we

1407
01:05:53,320 --> 01:05:57,080
Speaker 9: need other players that also have that intensity, and we

1408
01:05:57,120 --> 01:05:59,959
Speaker 9: don't have that, and Jimmy Butler certainly has that. Now.

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01:06:00,680 --> 01:06:03,560
Speaker 9: I'm sure Steve will disagree yet again with what Draymond

1410
01:06:03,600 --> 01:06:06,479
Speaker 9: said but he told me that when they're in town

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01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:08,439
Speaker 9: in LA that they're going to win the championship because

1412
01:06:08,480 --> 01:06:11,640
Speaker 9: of this. I don't buy that. Yeah, I will say,

1413
01:06:11,840 --> 01:06:14,120
Speaker 9: instead of being a question mark on whether they get

1414
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Speaker 9: to the playing tournament, they're definitely a playoff team and

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01:06:17,240 --> 01:06:19,200
Speaker 9: I don't see them making a big run. But I

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01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:22,000
Speaker 9: don't think any team if they had to pick Straws

1417
01:06:22,040 --> 01:06:24,920
Speaker 9: will choose. Okay, I want the Golden State Warriors in

1418
01:06:24,960 --> 01:06:27,880
Speaker 9: the first round matchup because that's a pretty challenging speed bump.

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01:06:28,080 --> 01:06:28,320
Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Well this, I will say the Warriors are better shape

1421
01:06:30,920 --> 01:06:32,760
Speaker 2: than that disaster in Phoenix right now.

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Speaker 9: Wow, that's a dumb That.

1423
01:06:35,160 --> 01:06:37,120
Speaker 3: Is an absolute disaster.

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Speaker 9: And stair parts.

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Speaker 3: All Right, we need to give Mark some rests.

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Speaker 2: I forgot a big show tomorrow will be what We'll

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Speaker 2: see you tomorrow Mark. So Mark, we always appreciate the time,

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01:06:49,000 --> 01:06:49,920
Speaker 2: and we'll see you tomorrow.

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Speaker 9: Heyay tomorrow, looking forward to co hosting the second best

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01:06:54,160 --> 01:06:56,720
Speaker 9: Fox Sports radio show this week, behind you guys were

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01:06:56,840 --> 01:06:57,280
Speaker 9: number one.

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Speaker 2: We appreciate that, Mark, thanks so much, great Mark. You

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01:07:00,200 --> 01:07:03,640
Speaker 2: know there are Fox Sports Radio NBA Insider. Now let's

1434
01:07:03,640 --> 01:07:06,480
Speaker 2: find out what is Trendeane.

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01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:08,720
Speaker 4: Morton Steve had a question for you.

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01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:12,760
Speaker 8: Yes, and you know, I don't mean to offend anybody

1437
01:07:12,760 --> 01:07:15,200
Speaker 8: who may be listening, which is a great way to start.

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01:07:15,280 --> 01:07:16,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, here too.

1439
01:07:16,120 --> 01:07:18,160
Speaker 3: But yeah, is there.

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01:07:18,040 --> 01:07:22,400
Speaker 8: A more, as I'll borrow a phrase from my co

1441
01:07:22,480 --> 01:07:27,760
Speaker 8: host flim flamm and fluff job, than bracketology insider.

1442
01:07:31,400 --> 01:07:36,960
Speaker 2: Look, if you can convince people that somehow you have

1443
01:07:37,240 --> 01:07:43,120
Speaker 2: the expertise of putting a completely bogus bracket that has

1444
01:07:43,240 --> 01:07:46,480
Speaker 2: zero bearing on the actual bracket that will be decided

1445
01:07:46,520 --> 01:07:49,240
Speaker 2: down the road, if you can con people into paying

1446
01:07:49,280 --> 01:07:50,840
Speaker 2: you to do that, I give them all the credit

1447
01:07:50,880 --> 01:07:51,280
Speaker 2: in the world.

1448
01:07:51,320 --> 01:07:55,400
Speaker 8: Well, I don't think people understand that bracketology is simply

1449
01:07:55,480 --> 01:07:59,000
Speaker 8: a sister not cousins of mock drafts.

1450
01:07:59,080 --> 01:08:02,000
Speaker 3: Right, Yes, it's all made up. It's all made up.

1451
01:08:03,800 --> 01:08:07,160
Speaker 3: You could look at your VP. Here's how it works

1452
01:08:07,200 --> 01:08:07,440
Speaker 3: for me.

1453
01:08:07,680 --> 01:08:11,280
Speaker 2: So obviously, being a UCLA Brewin, when I see then,

1454
01:08:11,520 --> 01:08:14,040
Speaker 2: you know rising, I'm like, I give it a lot

1455
01:08:14,040 --> 01:08:17,559
Speaker 2: of legitimacy. But if I think he is put them

1456
01:08:17,640 --> 01:08:20,120
Speaker 2: too low, then I'm saying this.

1457
01:08:20,040 --> 01:08:20,559
Speaker 3: Is a joke.

1458
01:08:20,800 --> 01:08:24,040
Speaker 2: Right, Sure, So you're always going to have fans of

1459
01:08:24,080 --> 01:08:27,879
Speaker 2: the bracketology guaranteed based on teams that are in contention,

1460
01:08:28,400 --> 01:08:30,760
Speaker 2: and then you'll always have critics if your team is

1461
01:08:30,920 --> 01:08:31,960
Speaker 2: on the outside looking in.

1462
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Speaker 3: But it's essentially just predicting.

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01:08:35,120 --> 01:08:37,240
Speaker 8: I mean, you're just looking at which teams are five

1464
01:08:37,320 --> 01:08:39,880
Speaker 8: hundred in power conferences, which teams are going to win

1465
01:08:39,920 --> 01:08:40,679
Speaker 8: their conference?

1466
01:08:40,920 --> 01:08:44,000
Speaker 2: Like man, he had spice to teams on the bubble

1467
01:08:44,200 --> 01:08:45,880
Speaker 2: last four in first four out.

1468
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Speaker 3: You know, you have all that kind of stuff.

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01:08:47,560 --> 01:08:49,680
Speaker 8: Seems like predicting who's going to make the playoffs a

1470
01:08:49,760 --> 01:08:51,080
Speaker 8: day before the playoffs get out.

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Speaker 2: This is this is what I've said for years about

1472
01:08:53,800 --> 01:08:56,960
Speaker 2: like grading an NFL draft the day of the draft.

1473
01:08:58,439 --> 01:09:00,560
Speaker 2: I just like, how do you grade when none of

1474
01:09:00,600 --> 01:09:02,960
Speaker 2: these guys have played a game? Yeah, call me in

1475
01:09:03,160 --> 01:09:07,639
Speaker 2: three years and I will grade that NFL draft.

1476
01:09:07,640 --> 01:09:09,280
Speaker 8: MONTI this is my favorite part of all this, and

1477
01:09:09,320 --> 01:09:11,759
Speaker 8: I promise I'll update some top five scores in a second.

1478
01:09:12,840 --> 01:09:14,559
Speaker 8: My favorite part about all of this is after the

1479
01:09:14,600 --> 01:09:17,080
Speaker 8: bracket comes out, you'll see the lunardies and so on

1480
01:09:17,160 --> 01:09:20,320
Speaker 8: and so forth talk about how the committee got it wrong. Right.

1481
01:09:20,720 --> 01:09:23,880
Speaker 8: That's essentially like the weather man saying God got it

1482
01:09:23,960 --> 01:09:26,439
Speaker 8: wrong because I said it's supposed to rain on Monday,

1483
01:09:26,680 --> 01:09:27,800
Speaker 8: and it's seventy.

1484
01:09:27,439 --> 01:09:29,680
Speaker 3: Five and sunny. I don't understand like that.

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01:09:29,800 --> 01:09:31,640
Speaker 8: Somebody must have gotten it wrong because it couldn't have

1486
01:09:31,640 --> 01:09:35,280
Speaker 8: been raining. Just my wild guest based off there are

1487
01:09:35,280 --> 01:09:39,360
Speaker 8: four variable points. Couldn't have been that wrong. Weoll both

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Speaker 8: of these teams are going to make the tournament, Auburn

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01:09:40,880 --> 01:09:41,360
Speaker 8: and Alabama.

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Speaker 2: I will say this the four letter racketology, Lonardi, he's

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01:09:47,800 --> 01:09:50,479
Speaker 2: got USLA about where they should be, sixth seed. They're

1492
01:09:50,479 --> 01:09:51,439
Speaker 2: about a six seed right now.

1493
01:09:51,680 --> 01:09:53,679
Speaker 3: You know what else? How you could have told UCLA

1494
01:09:53,800 --> 01:09:54,479
Speaker 3: is probably gonna be a.

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01:09:54,439 --> 01:09:56,320
Speaker 8: Succeeed, but I don't know by looking at every other

1496
01:09:56,439 --> 01:09:59,960
Speaker 8: bracket from the history of brackets, looking at the racket record,

1497
01:10:00,160 --> 01:10:01,840
Speaker 8: look at the conference and be like, oh, you know what,

1498
01:10:02,200 --> 01:10:04,639
Speaker 8: probably somewhere between six to nine nine.

1499
01:10:04,560 --> 01:10:06,920
Speaker 3: Times seven big ten. Yeah, that's about right.

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01:10:06,960 --> 01:10:12,120
Speaker 8: Six right anyway. Auburn beat Alabama ninety four to eighty five.

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01:10:12,240 --> 01:10:14,080
Speaker 8: That's the number one it's number two team in the nation.

1502
01:10:14,160 --> 01:10:17,360
Speaker 8: Auburn will remain number one. Dou number three team in

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01:10:17,360 --> 01:10:20,759
Speaker 8: the nation. One beat Stanford one oh six to seventy Tennessee,

1504
01:10:20,840 --> 01:10:23,759
Speaker 8: the fifth rane team in the nation beat Vanderbilt eighty

1505
01:10:23,800 --> 01:10:27,439
Speaker 8: one to seventy six. And six rank Houston beat thirteenth

1506
01:10:27,520 --> 01:10:29,519
Speaker 8: r in Arizona sixty two to fifty eight.

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01:10:29,560 --> 01:10:30,320
Speaker 3: I don't know if I have.

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01:10:30,280 --> 01:10:33,559
Speaker 8: To ask Joelnardi or not, but I bet you all

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01:10:33,600 --> 01:10:35,320
Speaker 8: of those teams I just mentioned will be in the

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01:10:35,360 --> 01:10:37,519
Speaker 8: final field of sixty eight.

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01:10:37,560 --> 01:10:39,599
Speaker 3: But I don't know. Maybe just an eighty percent chance.

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Speaker 3: Back to you guys.

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Speaker 2: All right, thank you very much, Martin. Now he's got

1514
01:10:42,800 --> 01:10:46,280
Speaker 2: frustrations and I understand that five percent. Once again, we

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01:10:46,360 --> 01:10:48,599
Speaker 2: are Fox Sports Saturday, coming to live from the tire

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01:10:48,640 --> 01:10:49,719
Speaker 2: rack dot com studios.

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Speaker 3: Apparently it is that time.

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01:10:54,400 --> 01:10:57,479
Speaker 5: All right, let's bring this back. I will say the

1519
01:10:57,560 --> 01:10:59,760
Speaker 5: last time we played this, I thought I was your

1520
01:10:59,840 --> 01:11:02,120
Speaker 5: dad and I wasn't because the Internet was wrong. No,

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01:11:02,240 --> 01:11:04,680
Speaker 5: I was wrong, guys, don't trust the internet.

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Speaker 3: You asked me the question.

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Speaker 2: It was about who took the fewest games to get

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01:11:09,680 --> 01:11:10,959
Speaker 2: to two thousand hits.

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01:11:10,720 --> 01:11:12,080
Speaker 3: In their career, who reached too?

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01:11:12,160 --> 01:11:12,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I.

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01:11:12,960 --> 01:11:15,840
Speaker 2: Said, well, I know that Echro's got to be in

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01:11:15,880 --> 01:11:18,479
Speaker 2: the top three, and You're like no. And then then

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01:11:18,479 --> 01:11:21,160
Speaker 2: he gave me jose al Tuo V and I'm like, yes,

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01:11:21,320 --> 01:11:22,440
Speaker 2: it didn't sound.

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01:11:22,200 --> 01:11:23,879
Speaker 4: Right, so I had to look it up afterwards.

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01:11:23,920 --> 01:11:26,799
Speaker 2: And then we found out it was the quick fewest

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01:11:26,840 --> 01:11:30,680
Speaker 2: games to get to two thousand hits and twos and

1534
01:11:30,760 --> 01:11:31,960
Speaker 2: two hundred stolen bases.

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01:11:32,000 --> 01:11:35,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, the internet really screwed with me that day. Anyway,

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01:11:35,200 --> 01:11:35,920
Speaker 5: I should.

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01:11:35,800 --> 01:11:39,439
Speaker 3: Get this shitty question after a long wait.

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01:11:39,960 --> 01:11:41,599
Speaker 5: Shitty, Harry, shitty?

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01:11:41,680 --> 01:11:42,400
Speaker 3: Yes, what name?

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01:11:43,240 --> 01:11:45,479
Speaker 5: Yes? All right, all right, my question for you today,

1541
01:11:45,520 --> 01:11:49,320
Speaker 5: mister Hartman. Let's get going here. Steph Curry has the

1542
01:11:49,360 --> 01:11:52,759
Speaker 5: most three point shots made all time? Yes, who's the second?

1543
01:11:54,720 --> 01:11:55,000
Speaker 4: Wow?

1544
01:11:55,120 --> 01:12:00,240
Speaker 3: Well, I mean obviously he broke. I'm gonna h.

1545
01:12:02,160 --> 01:12:06,080
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say it is.

1546
01:12:06,080 --> 01:12:06,800
Speaker 3: Is it Ray Allen?

1547
01:12:07,320 --> 01:12:07,479
Speaker 6: Ray?

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01:12:07,520 --> 01:12:08,519
Speaker 5: Allen is third.

1549
01:12:09,600 --> 01:12:12,960
Speaker 2: Somebody's already pass Ray, so it must be a current player?

1550
01:12:13,040 --> 01:12:13,920
Speaker 3: It is who?

1551
01:12:14,040 --> 01:12:17,680
Speaker 2: I guess the next name that would come out would be.

1552
01:12:18,400 --> 01:12:23,080
Speaker 2: It's one of two guys. I will say it is

1553
01:12:26,040 --> 01:12:26,799
Speaker 2: Damian Lillard.

1554
01:12:27,200 --> 01:12:30,439
Speaker 5: No, who was the other guy you had in mind?

1555
01:12:31,600 --> 01:12:34,280
Speaker 5: Damian Lillard is fourth? By the way, so you're like,

1556
01:12:34,439 --> 01:12:35,960
Speaker 5: right there, he's fourth.

1557
01:12:37,320 --> 01:12:38,400
Speaker 3: Who am I missing?

1558
01:12:38,800 --> 01:12:40,960
Speaker 5: You're gonna You're gonna shoot yourself in the foot?

1559
01:12:41,000 --> 01:12:41,400
Speaker 3: Would it be?

1560
01:12:41,439 --> 01:12:42,360
Speaker 1: Would it be.

1561
01:12:43,680 --> 01:12:44,320
Speaker 3: James Harden?

1562
01:12:44,520 --> 01:12:48,800
Speaker 5: It is James Harden. That was pretty That was pretty good, though, Steve.

1563
01:12:48,840 --> 01:12:49,679
Speaker 5: That was pretty impressive.

1564
01:12:49,840 --> 01:12:51,040
Speaker 3: Well, I did get the top four?

1565
01:12:51,160 --> 01:12:53,679
Speaker 5: You did, Yes, that was pretty impressive. All right, let's

1566
01:12:53,680 --> 01:12:56,320
Speaker 5: go to our producer Ian what you got for him?

1567
01:12:56,640 --> 01:12:58,160
Speaker 4: This is this is my Who's Your Daddy?

1568
01:12:58,160 --> 01:12:58,519
Speaker 3: Premiere?

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01:12:58,640 --> 01:13:00,760
Speaker 10: So I really I'll go idea like if Steve's just

1570
01:13:00,760 --> 01:13:02,800
Speaker 10: gonna get this right off the bat, or maybe you

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01:13:02,800 --> 01:13:04,600
Speaker 10: won't get it at all. You never know, you never know,

1572
01:13:04,840 --> 01:13:09,840
Speaker 10: but okay, Steve. Which MLB player holds the record for

1573
01:13:09,880 --> 01:13:11,480
Speaker 10: the most career triples?

1574
01:13:12,560 --> 01:13:13,719
Speaker 3: Most career triples?

1575
01:13:14,680 --> 01:13:15,120
Speaker 5: Nice?

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01:13:16,280 --> 01:13:21,360
Speaker 2: That record is held by Sam Crawford.

1577
01:13:21,439 --> 01:13:24,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's correct, day, Yes.

1578
01:13:24,840 --> 01:13:28,440
Speaker 2: Who played for the Detroit Tigers in the early twentieth century.

1579
01:13:28,800 --> 01:13:31,000
Speaker 2: Do they still I mean they change these numbers. They've

1580
01:13:31,000 --> 01:13:33,479
Speaker 2: sort of rewritten some of that. Like Ty Cobb when

1581
01:13:33,479 --> 01:13:35,640
Speaker 2: he brought Pete Rose four thousand ninety one, Now they

1582
01:13:35,680 --> 01:13:37,280
Speaker 2: say he had four eighty nine.

1583
01:13:37,439 --> 01:13:39,880
Speaker 3: Do they still have Sam Crawford three hundred and twelve?

1584
01:13:41,000 --> 01:13:42,120
Speaker 4: I don't have the exact number.

1585
01:13:42,560 --> 01:13:43,840
Speaker 5: How do you have an exact number?

1586
01:13:44,479 --> 01:13:45,200
Speaker 4: But anyway, I just.

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01:13:45,320 --> 01:13:47,920
Speaker 3: All right, Sam Martin, Martin, that one?

1588
01:13:48,000 --> 01:13:48,680
Speaker 5: What you got here?

1589
01:13:49,000 --> 01:13:52,080
Speaker 3: I'll go stick around the diamond, go around the horn.

1590
01:13:52,120 --> 01:13:54,920
Speaker 8: Who's the only baseball player to hit two Grand slams

1591
01:13:55,640 --> 01:13:56,479
Speaker 8: in a single inning.

1592
01:13:57,320 --> 01:13:59,960
Speaker 2: Well, of course that is not only who hit a

1593
01:14:00,600 --> 01:14:04,800
Speaker 2: it would be Fernando Tatis Senior. And he hit both

1594
01:14:04,800 --> 01:14:08,760
Speaker 2: of them off of Chan Ho Park Sole, which is

1595
01:14:08,840 --> 01:14:11,639
Speaker 2: that's what really is remarkable, not that he hit two

1596
01:14:11,680 --> 01:14:14,559
Speaker 2: Grand Slams in the same inning, but he hit them

1597
01:14:14,600 --> 01:14:17,400
Speaker 2: both off the same pitcher, questioning why was chan Ho

1598
01:14:17,560 --> 01:14:20,599
Speaker 2: Park to think about this? He gave up a grand

1599
01:14:20,800 --> 01:14:25,240
Speaker 2: Slam and nine batters later in the same inning, the

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01:14:25,280 --> 01:14:28,160
Speaker 2: bases are loaded and he's still pitching for the dodge

1601
01:14:29,080 --> 01:14:29,599
Speaker 2: the bullpen.

1602
01:14:29,840 --> 01:14:31,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, at some point, right.

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01:14:31,640 --> 01:14:33,600
Speaker 2: So you've already given up a Grand Slam in the

1604
01:14:33,640 --> 01:14:37,960
Speaker 2: inning and nine batters later the bases are loaded and

1605
01:14:38,000 --> 01:14:39,240
Speaker 2: you're still in pitching.

1606
01:14:40,439 --> 01:14:42,040
Speaker 3: That's that's remarkable about that.

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01:14:42,160 --> 01:14:45,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, But Fernando Tatis one, I got a bonus one

1608
01:14:45,520 --> 01:14:46,000
Speaker 2: that she doesn't.

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01:14:46,400 --> 01:14:49,320
Speaker 5: Mary has a question, Always ask me a question.

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01:14:49,960 --> 01:14:52,519
Speaker 4: Wait before Mary does three hundred and nine, it's nine.

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01:14:53,000 --> 01:14:54,120
Speaker 3: They've adjusted that number.

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01:14:54,160 --> 01:14:57,360
Speaker 11: Okay, go ahead, all right, yo, Yeah, I have a

1613
01:14:57,520 --> 01:14:58,360
Speaker 11: Grammy question.

1614
01:14:58,600 --> 01:15:00,400
Speaker 3: Grammy question. All right, So.

1615
01:15:03,320 --> 01:15:08,040
Speaker 11: Who won Best Country Album for the twenty twenty five Grammys.

1616
01:15:08,520 --> 01:15:11,240
Speaker 11: What album the best Country album?

1617
01:15:11,800 --> 01:15:16,160
Speaker 3: That would be Beyonce? Okay, so knows that. Yeah, thank

1618
01:15:16,200 --> 01:15:18,559
Speaker 3: you even I know that one she has.

1619
01:15:18,680 --> 01:15:19,519
Speaker 4: He has amazing.

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01:15:19,880 --> 01:15:23,439
Speaker 2: Taylor Swift had won four Best Albums, which is the

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01:15:23,479 --> 01:15:27,000
Speaker 2: all time record, but she only has I believe, fourteen

1622
01:15:27,200 --> 01:15:34,200
Speaker 2: total fifteen totally has thirty five total Yeah Grammys, the

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01:15:34,200 --> 01:15:36,000
Speaker 2: most of any artist of all time.

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01:15:36,800 --> 01:15:40,479
Speaker 3: All Right, that went okay for me? Okay, I did Steve?

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01:15:40,479 --> 01:15:43,639
Speaker 8: I met you remember this when it happened? Who holds

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01:15:43,680 --> 01:15:46,960
Speaker 8: a single year a single year record for Grand Slams,

1627
01:15:47,479 --> 01:15:49,479
Speaker 8: single year record for Grand Slams.

1628
01:15:49,960 --> 01:15:50,519
Speaker 3: Let's see.

1629
01:15:50,760 --> 01:15:58,120
Speaker 2: Uh the record is six, yes, and it is Don Mattingly.

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01:15:58,240 --> 01:15:59,639
Speaker 4: Yeah, can you stop?

1631
01:16:01,000 --> 01:16:06,760
Speaker 3: Welcome Ian Welcome, Yeah, Don matt Aileen. Yeah, that's all right.

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01:16:07,200 --> 01:16:08,880
Speaker 2: Coming up on the other side. I don't know how

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01:16:08,920 --> 01:16:11,599
Speaker 2: I get top that, but we'll try. This is Fox

1634
01:16:12,200 --> 01:16:17,919
Speaker 2: Sports Saturday. Steve Harvey, Montzie Belind is here Fox Sports Saturday.

1635
01:16:17,920 --> 01:16:21,440
Speaker 2: We're coming live from the tire rack dot Com studios.

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01:16:21,680 --> 01:16:23,080
Speaker 4: I want to thank our crew today.

1637
01:16:23,120 --> 01:16:29,320
Speaker 2: Martin always, who is uh he rivals you Monsei in

1638
01:16:29,360 --> 01:16:32,559
Speaker 2: a lot of ways. About most valuable players here at

1639
01:16:32,600 --> 01:16:37,080
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio, those that can literally do it alls

1640
01:16:37,080 --> 01:16:41,679
Speaker 2: at Fox Sports Radio. Yeah, exactly, exactly, all American at

1641
01:16:41,960 --> 01:16:45,200
Speaker 2: several positions. So Martin doing a great shot. Mary Mack,

1642
01:16:45,240 --> 01:16:46,720
Speaker 2: we love you, We love mir Mac.

1643
01:16:46,840 --> 01:16:48,440
Speaker 5: Always with the right tunes.

1644
01:16:48,240 --> 01:16:49,320
Speaker 3: Always with the right tunes.

1645
01:16:49,400 --> 01:16:53,280
Speaker 2: She's she's introducing me, and she gives me those softball

1646
01:16:53,560 --> 01:16:55,360
Speaker 2: questions that she knows.

1647
01:16:55,439 --> 01:16:57,599
Speaker 3: She never wants me to look bad, so she makes

1648
01:16:57,640 --> 01:16:58,360
Speaker 3: it easy.

1649
01:16:58,120 --> 01:16:59,800
Speaker 5: For I think she genuinely thought you weren't going to

1650
01:16:59,840 --> 01:17:00,840
Speaker 5: know that, And then.

1651
01:17:00,760 --> 01:17:04,400
Speaker 11: You knew the the What was the question that I

1652
01:17:04,479 --> 01:17:06,519
Speaker 11: asked him? There was a question that was really surprising

1653
01:17:06,520 --> 01:17:06,960
Speaker 11: that he knew.

1654
01:17:07,000 --> 01:17:09,360
Speaker 2: It was a boyfriend question, wasn't it? It was a

1655
01:17:09,520 --> 01:17:10,479
Speaker 2: who was dating who?

1656
01:17:10,640 --> 01:17:11,840
Speaker 3: Question? Back in the day.

1657
01:17:11,880 --> 01:17:14,120
Speaker 11: I think it was the Kanye Taylor Swift And yeah,

1658
01:17:14,120 --> 01:17:15,240
Speaker 11: that Kanye said, that's.

1659
01:17:15,160 --> 01:17:16,320
Speaker 5: What it was. That was a question.

1660
01:17:16,439 --> 01:17:16,879
Speaker 3: Yes.

1661
01:17:17,320 --> 01:17:19,120
Speaker 2: And then Ian who looked in a state of shock

1662
01:17:19,200 --> 01:17:21,320
Speaker 2: that I could ask answer these questions.

1663
01:17:21,400 --> 01:17:23,400
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, now, don't let this go to your head

1664
01:17:23,439 --> 01:17:25,240
Speaker 4: when I ask you this. Yeah, but do you have

1665
01:17:25,280 --> 01:17:26,960
Speaker 4: a photographic memory?

1666
01:17:29,000 --> 01:17:29,280
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1667
01:17:29,400 --> 01:17:33,400
Speaker 2: I mean the way my memory works. And again I

1668
01:17:33,439 --> 01:17:35,679
Speaker 2: can't compare it to anyone else because it's the only.

1669
01:17:35,560 --> 01:17:36,679
Speaker 3: Brain I've ever had.

1670
01:17:37,280 --> 01:17:40,479
Speaker 2: But usually what happens when people are asking me questions,

1671
01:17:40,520 --> 01:17:42,479
Speaker 2: I have like a rolodex in my head and I'm

1672
01:17:42,520 --> 01:17:44,600
Speaker 2: just waiting for it to stop on the page and

1673
01:17:44,600 --> 01:17:46,760
Speaker 2: then pretty much, yeah, I'm reading the answer out of

1674
01:17:46,760 --> 01:17:47,240
Speaker 2: my brain.

1675
01:17:47,560 --> 01:17:48,360
Speaker 3: That's how it works.

1676
01:17:48,520 --> 01:17:51,439
Speaker 2: I honestly, I've been I mean, we've been doing this

1677
01:17:51,479 --> 01:17:54,519
Speaker 2: for years and years, long before it was internet. When

1678
01:17:54,560 --> 01:17:56,960
Speaker 2: I first started doing sports radio in the early nineties,

1679
01:17:57,360 --> 01:18:01,200
Speaker 2: they actually had a segment called Stump Homer. They used

1680
01:18:01,200 --> 01:18:04,120
Speaker 2: to call me Homer Hartman, and they actually had a

1681
01:18:04,520 --> 01:18:06,920
Speaker 2: button with my picture on it that if you stump me,

1682
01:18:07,120 --> 01:18:09,639
Speaker 2: you got this, and we would do this every day.

1683
01:18:09,840 --> 01:18:12,759
Speaker 2: There's no cheat sheets, you know, there was no internet

1684
01:18:12,800 --> 01:18:13,360
Speaker 2: in those days.

1685
01:18:13,360 --> 01:18:15,760
Speaker 4: Wait, what sound was made when when they stumped you?

1686
01:18:15,800 --> 01:18:18,920
Speaker 2: Like, I mean, I like, but you know people would say, like,

1687
01:18:18,920 --> 01:18:22,040
Speaker 2: all right, who was the third string offensive tackle on

1688
01:18:22,040 --> 01:18:23,040
Speaker 2: my high school team?

1689
01:18:23,840 --> 01:18:24,800
Speaker 3: Be football team?

1690
01:18:24,800 --> 01:18:26,840
Speaker 2: You know that that wasn't legit, you know, it'd have

1691
01:18:26,880 --> 01:18:28,200
Speaker 2: to be a fairly legit question.

1692
01:18:28,200 --> 01:18:30,280
Speaker 10: I just wanted to be like a Mario dying sound

1693
01:18:30,280 --> 01:18:31,320
Speaker 10: whenever they stump you or.

1694
01:18:31,240 --> 01:18:31,800
Speaker 5: Something like that.

1695
01:18:33,200 --> 01:18:37,320
Speaker 3: Honestly, I do not study trivia. My thing is stats.

1696
01:18:37,479 --> 01:18:43,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, that's that's where I sort of separate my stats.

1697
01:18:44,080 --> 01:18:48,160
Speaker 12: I mean, I mean, you would be you would have

1698
01:18:48,280 --> 01:18:53,240
Speaker 12: me committed if you actually saw stats that I had,

1699
01:18:53,400 --> 01:18:56,040
Speaker 12: you would you you would say, okay, dude, you need

1700
01:18:56,080 --> 01:18:59,479
Speaker 12: to be committed, like I type stats every single day.

1701
01:18:59,560 --> 01:19:03,680
Speaker 8: But Steve, trivia is by definition like when you accumulate

1702
01:19:03,800 --> 01:19:04,920
Speaker 8: unique stats like six.

1703
01:19:06,320 --> 01:19:10,640
Speaker 2: I don't study trivia for the say trivia either I

1704
01:19:10,720 --> 01:19:12,679
Speaker 2: know it or I don't know. Yeah, like it's There

1705
01:19:12,680 --> 01:19:16,800
Speaker 2: are times though, there are times when I honestly I've

1706
01:19:16,800 --> 01:19:19,840
Speaker 2: been asked questions that initially I don't think I know

1707
01:19:19,960 --> 01:19:22,920
Speaker 2: the answer, and then suddenly it shows up like I

1708
01:19:22,960 --> 01:19:26,680
Speaker 2: even shocked myself sometimes like some I didn't realize it

1709
01:19:26,720 --> 01:19:28,680
Speaker 2: was actually in the rolodex.

1710
01:19:29,040 --> 01:19:30,920
Speaker 8: Well, when you when you when you've been in the

1711
01:19:30,960 --> 01:19:33,200
Speaker 8: game for so long, all the respect that you refer

1712
01:19:33,240 --> 01:19:35,719
Speaker 8: to your memory as a rolodex, I think it's showing

1713
01:19:35,800 --> 01:19:37,320
Speaker 8: it right there exactly.

1714
01:19:37,439 --> 01:19:40,320
Speaker 3: You know, no idea what rolodex is. Yes, I do

1715
01:19:40,960 --> 01:19:46,880
Speaker 3: you do? So young, So you're you're absolutely right, Martin.

1716
01:19:46,920 --> 01:19:50,479
Speaker 2: The rolodex is a clear indication of just how long

1717
01:19:50,600 --> 01:19:54,639
Speaker 2: I've been alive. All right, So you're all excited about

1718
01:19:54,640 --> 01:19:57,200
Speaker 2: the All Star festivities tomorrow.

1719
01:19:57,760 --> 01:20:00,960
Speaker 5: No, but I'm going to tune in. I'm by the format,

1720
01:20:01,120 --> 01:20:03,120
Speaker 5: which is a good thing. I've intrigued by the format,

1721
01:20:03,160 --> 01:20:04,000
Speaker 5: so I'm gonna.

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01:20:03,760 --> 01:20:06,400
Speaker 2: All right, Well, we'll be back tomorrow. As always, don't

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01:20:06,439 --> 01:20:09,680
Speaker 2: go anywhere, folks. More fun coming up right here on

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio, Hie