WEBVTT - Episode 2: The Poster Child 

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<v Speaker 1>Pushkin. Hey, it's Jake. I hope you enjoyed our season

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<v Speaker 1>The Truth about Sarah. We'll be having a live event

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<v Speaker 1>later this year. It's going to be a conversation between

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<v Speaker 1>me and my co host Jess McHugh, and we want

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<v Speaker 1>to hear from you too. What questions do you have

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<v Speaker 1>for us about this season? Send your questions to deep

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<v Speaker 1>Cover at Pushkin dot fm. That's deep Cover All one

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<v Speaker 1>word at Pushkin dot fm and stay tuned for more

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<v Speaker 1>details on this event.

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<v Speaker 2>Previously on deep Cover. I liked her. I liked her

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<v Speaker 2>a lot. She worked really hard and she was really humble.

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<v Speaker 2>Sarah says that she's going to have to have her

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<v Speaker 2>leg amputated, and I was blown away. She tells me that, like,

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<v Speaker 2>she just got diagnosed with stage four lung cancer.

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<v Speaker 3>Could you help me understand why? It says that you're

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<v Speaker 3>a corporal here and she's like, I was sexually assaulted

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<v Speaker 3>on ship by the commanding officer. The DoD ID number

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<v Speaker 3>for this D two fourteen belongs to a corporal so

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<v Speaker 3>and so, and it's a guy. Then fifty percent of

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<v Speaker 3>this document is altered.

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<v Speaker 1>Long before Sarah ever traveled out to Montana, long before

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<v Speaker 1>she met dex Or Tom or Natalie. She had a

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<v Speaker 1>life in Rhode Island. That's where she grew up, where

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<v Speaker 1>she went to high school, where she had made a

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<v Speaker 1>home for herself. Rhode Island is tiny. It's the small

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<v Speaker 1>estate in the nation. People like to say, in Rhode Island,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't go anywhere without bumping into someone you know. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>in such a small place, it seems like it'd be

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<v Speaker 1>hard for anyone to keep secrets. But that didn't seem

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<v Speaker 1>to stop Sarah Kavanaugh.

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<v Speaker 2>Sarah passed herself off as a veteran, specifically a former

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<v Speaker 2>US Marine who'd served in Iraq and Afghanistan, who'd been injured,

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<v Speaker 2>a decorated war hero. But none of this was true.

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<v Speaker 2>Was a story she told about herself, the sprawling lie

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<v Speaker 2>she lived for six whole years. You might think that

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<v Speaker 2>to pull this off, she played safe, avoid attention, like

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<v Speaker 2>not advertise the lie, because that'd be a great way

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<v Speaker 2>to get caught. Seems logical, right, Instead she did this.

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<v Speaker 4>Rhode Island is celebrating a national Purple Heart Day, and

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<v Speaker 4>there will be a heartfelt tribute for the brave women

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<v Speaker 4>and men who have been awarded this special medal. Here

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<v Speaker 4>to tell us all about it is a purple Heart

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<v Speaker 4>veteran Sarah Kavanaugh. Sarah, if you can tell us a

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<v Speaker 4>little bit about yourself, and you were awarded a purple Heart.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, so, I served in the Marine Corps for about

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<v Speaker 2>eleven years. That was given at purple Heart for action

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<v Speaker 2>to Afghanistan. This is Sarah giving an interview on the

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<v Speaker 2>local news. She's speaking about the state's new Purple Heart Trail,

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<v Speaker 2>a network of roads dedicated to veterans who were injured

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<v Speaker 2>or killed in service. Yeah, it really is an honor

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<v Speaker 2>to be a part of this.

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<v Speaker 5>Being able to recognize it and be the voice for

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<v Speaker 5>other Purple Heart veterans who may not be comfortable is

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<v Speaker 5>really an honor.

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<v Speaker 1>Just a few days after this interview aired, Sarah attended

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<v Speaker 1>a dedication ceremony for the new Purple Heart Trail. I've

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<v Speaker 1>seen a photo of this event. Sarah wore a Marine

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<v Speaker 1>Corps uniform, pressed neat, immaculate metals gleaming. A sharp white

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<v Speaker 1>cap framed her face, her eyes kind of hidden under

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<v Speaker 1>the visor. She stood alongside the governor and made a

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<v Speaker 1>speech about patriotism and sacrifice. Sarah told the assembled crowd,

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<v Speaker 1>no one earns a purple heart alone. I earned mine

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<v Speaker 1>amongst eleven other marines. She added, I have long been

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<v Speaker 1>one of those veterans, the ones who wished to fly

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<v Speaker 1>under the radar, who merely did what was asked.

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<v Speaker 2>So yes, Sarah really did this. She stood next to

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<v Speaker 2>the governor and talked about the meaning of the purple heart,

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<v Speaker 2>a purple heart by the way that she bought online.

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<v Speaker 2>Part of me wonders, if you're Sarah, why agree to

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<v Speaker 2>do this? Because Sarah grew up in Rhode Island and

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<v Speaker 2>still had family there, classmates from high school, people who

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<v Speaker 2>knew full well that she was no war hero. And

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<v Speaker 2>if any of them had seen her making this speech

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<v Speaker 2>or watched her on the local news, they could have

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<v Speaker 2>started asking questions, and Sarah's lies could have unraveled so easily.

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<v Speaker 1>But Sarah's lies survived, thrived, in fact, even as she

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<v Speaker 1>took risks, reckless risks, risks that seemed destined to backfire,

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<v Speaker 1>especially within the tiny context of Rhode Island. But Sarah,

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<v Speaker 1>she navigated well in small spaces, and as the walls

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<v Speaker 1>closed in, they just keep getting smaller. I'm Jake Halburn

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm Jess Mchughe, and this is Deep Cover Season

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<v Speaker 1>six The Truth About Sarah, Episode two, The Poster Child.

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<v Speaker 1>Sarah's lies didn't just happen overnight, but slowly, over the

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<v Speaker 1>course of many years, she gradually won people over, won

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<v Speaker 1>their trust, won their admiration, and far as we can tell,

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<v Speaker 1>all of this really started back in twenty sixteen with

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<v Speaker 1>this guy.

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<v Speaker 6>So people may forget my name, but though, oh hey,

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<v Speaker 6>do you know Dave. Dave, Oh, the guy with a

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<v Speaker 6>handlebar mustache. Oh yeah, I know him.

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<v Speaker 1>That's Dave Ainslie. He's an Army vet served over twenty years,

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<v Speaker 1>including time in Iraq, where he earned a purple heart

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<v Speaker 1>and a bronze star. In the army, Dave always had

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<v Speaker 1>to keep a close shave, so when he finally got out,

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<v Speaker 1>he returned home to Rhode Island.

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<v Speaker 6>And I was like, I'm gonna try this facial hair thing.

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<v Speaker 6>So I had everything from mutton chops to a goatee

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<v Speaker 6>to well, let's try a handlebar mustache.

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<v Speaker 1>And that look worked for him. Came like his calling card,

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<v Speaker 1>as he put it, so that if you lived anywhere

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<v Speaker 1>near his town in Rhode Island, you knew that Dave

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<v Speaker 1>the guy with the handlebar mustache. He was the dude

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<v Speaker 1>in charge. Of the local VFW post one point fifty two.

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<v Speaker 2>DFW, by the way, stands for Veterans of Foreign Wars.

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<v Speaker 2>It's kind of like a club for veterans where they

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<v Speaker 2>can kick back, swap stories, and support each other. Dave

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<v Speaker 2>was the commander of this post and his ongoing goal

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<v Speaker 2>was to modernize the place. He says, when he first

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<v Speaker 2>arrived in twenty ten, the vibe was kind of like

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<v Speaker 2>what you might expect, as he put it, smokey bar,

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<v Speaker 2>bunch of old guys. Dave loved those old guys, but

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<v Speaker 2>he also wanted to open up the doors create an

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<v Speaker 2>environment where any and all veterans would feel welcome, especially

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<v Speaker 2>the younger generation. So he upped their game on social media,

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<v Speaker 2>focused on doing community service, and he set the tone

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<v Speaker 2>with his welcoming personality. Then in twenty sixteen, he meets

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<v Speaker 2>Sarah Kavanaugh and apparently she was struggling.

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<v Speaker 6>She explained to me that she just got out of

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<v Speaker 6>the Marine Corps and she needed help with some car

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<v Speaker 6>payments because she was waiting for VA disability to kick in.

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<v Speaker 2>In other words, Sarah said there'd been some kind of

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<v Speaker 2>delay that she was supposed to be getting financial support

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<v Speaker 2>from the VA. The Department of Veterans Affairs, but there

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<v Speaker 2>was a hold up. Indeed, he understood this kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 6>So we've all been there before. The VA is great organization,

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<v Speaker 6>but not always perfect. We wanted to help her.

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<v Speaker 1>So many of the charities that help veterans in the

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<v Speaker 1>US operate just like this. They try to compensate for

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<v Speaker 1>all the government's inefficiencies and shortcomings, and they do this

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<v Speaker 1>by jumping in and helping veterans right away when they

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<v Speaker 1>need it most. And here was Dave trying to do

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<v Speaker 1>exactly that.

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<v Speaker 6>So I said, hey, we're getting ready for the Veterans

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<v Speaker 6>State Parade. Meet us over there.

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<v Speaker 1>They were gathering in a parking lot when Sarah shows

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<v Speaker 1>up to join them. It's all pretty informal except for

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<v Speaker 1>one bit of paperwork.

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<v Speaker 6>I said, I need to verify that you're a veteran.

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<v Speaker 6>So she showed me what every service member gets when

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<v Speaker 6>they leave the service. A two fourteen.

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<v Speaker 1>Add two fourteen. It's actually a very important document in

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<v Speaker 1>the story. You may recall us talking about it in

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<v Speaker 1>the last episode. It's the official military discharge paper explaining

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<v Speaker 1>how and when someone left the service, and it's what

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<v Speaker 1>proves that Sarah is apparently a veteran.

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<v Speaker 6>I looked at it. I said, yep, okay, you're a veteran.

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<v Speaker 6>Thank you very much. And I was actually excited to

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<v Speaker 6>have her because here is a younger veteran and she

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<v Speaker 6>seemed very genuine and she's like, Okay, I'm going to,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, be a part of this organization. I'm going

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<v Speaker 6>to be a part of this now.

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<v Speaker 1>So right there on the spot in the parking lot,

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<v Speaker 1>with Sarah standing there, Dave calls for a vote.

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<v Speaker 6>It was a voice vote. Okay, here's this veteran. Here's

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<v Speaker 6>her proof. She wants to become a member of our post.

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<v Speaker 6>She needs help. Here's story. Can we give her the

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<v Speaker 6>eight hundred and whatever dollars it was that she needed

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<v Speaker 6>all in Favorsay, I eyes have it. Okay, hey, we're

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<v Speaker 6>in the parade. You want to march with us?

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<v Speaker 5>Sure?

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<v Speaker 1>And like that, Sarah was marching in the annual Veterans

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<v Speaker 1>Day parade. I've seen a video of this parade from

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<v Speaker 1>a different year, but the mood is timeless. People are

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<v Speaker 1>waving flags, the members of a local high school band

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<v Speaker 1>are playing their drums and trombones. Veterans are walking down

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<v Speaker 1>West Main Street together waving the Boy Scouts are there too,

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<v Speaker 1>marching past the package store and the antique dealer and

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<v Speaker 1>the quilting shop. It's classic America and right there in

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<v Speaker 1>the middle of it all was Sarah Kavanaugh, the newest

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<v Speaker 1>member of Post one P fifty two.

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<v Speaker 2>As far as Dave concerned, the day was a win.

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<v Speaker 2>Win got to help vet need and he also got

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<v Speaker 2>a new member, a fresh face, and a woman too.

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<v Speaker 6>I was excited to have a female veteran be part

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<v Speaker 6>of our organization because that helps open us our organization

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<v Speaker 6>up to another demographic.

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<v Speaker 2>And it wasn't just that Sarah was a woman. She

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<v Speaker 2>had a great energy about her. She seemed to embody

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<v Speaker 2>the new, younger VFW that Dave wanted to build.

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<v Speaker 6>She was the post A child because she was pretty blonde. Um,

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<v Speaker 6>she was openly a lesbian, and again that is an

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<v Speaker 6>aspect of people who have served that doesn't get represented

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<v Speaker 6>well you know what I mean. So she was the

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<v Speaker 6>post A child for lack of a better term.

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<v Speaker 2>Not to mention, she was also a wounded combat veteran.

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<v Speaker 2>This didn't come out right away or in a super

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<v Speaker 2>public manner. She would make references to her injuries and

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<v Speaker 2>later to the medals that she'd won. Eventually, she showed

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<v Speaker 2>up to VFW meetings with purple heart license plates, and

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<v Speaker 2>she seemed remarkably resilient.

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<v Speaker 6>I liked her story that she was a survivor and

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<v Speaker 6>that she served as a beacon of hope for other

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<v Speaker 6>veterans who could have been in that same place.

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<v Speaker 2>When folks actually talked to Sarah, she was relatable, even

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<v Speaker 2>to the other veterans, the old school guys.

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<v Speaker 6>She could talk to these other veterans and the other

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<v Speaker 6>veterans were like, Okay, yeah, I'm going to put aside

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<v Speaker 6>all these other aspects that I may not agree with

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<v Speaker 6>about her sexual preference, but I'm going to recognize that

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<v Speaker 6>she served.

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<v Speaker 1>A few months after she joined the VFW, Sarah got

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<v Speaker 1>engaged to a woman named Nicole. Nicole was originally from

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<v Speaker 1>New Mexico. She was very sporty, an avid hiker, played softball,

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<v Speaker 1>love the beach. The two of them seemed like a

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<v Speaker 1>great match, and of course Sarah's veteran buddy's rally to celebrate.

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<v Speaker 6>I think she asked me to organize the bachelorette party.

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<v Speaker 6>To be honest with you, sometimes I can be a

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<v Speaker 6>little gregarious, so it goes with the yeah, it goes

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<v Speaker 6>with a handle all mustache. So what we did was

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<v Speaker 6>we first met at a German American club up in Batucket,

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<v Speaker 6>had a couple of beers there.

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<v Speaker 1>Dave invited a bunch of VFW members, including an old

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<v Speaker 1>Vietnam Vet. They all enjoyed a few bruskies together.

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<v Speaker 6>And then we went down to Providence. We got a

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<v Speaker 6>hotel suite, we did some shots, and then we all

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<v Speaker 6>put TWU two's on just because you attitude two on.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes I did, because you're just sort of you're a

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<v Speaker 2>big dude.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes I am.

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<v Speaker 1>And for the record, these were rainbow colored two twos.

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<v Speaker 1>Once they were all two tuned up, it was picture time.

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<v Speaker 6>So outside of the hotel, we all posed like army men,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, like one person's on their knees and one

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<v Speaker 6>person's like pointing and everything else. So we all posed

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<v Speaker 6>like army green men. Then we went to a holl

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<v Speaker 6>oft the Moon type bar where the dueling pianos and

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<v Speaker 6>we were all singing songs. And then we all went

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<v Speaker 6>uh to a gay bar.

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<v Speaker 1>And there it was a modern day VFW celebrating in

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<v Speaker 1>two twos. It was the sort of VFW that Dave

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<v Speaker 1>had envisioned and it seemed that Sarah had played a

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<v Speaker 1>key role in making it happen. And the real proof

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<v Speaker 1>of this, the crowning proof, was that a few years later,

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<v Speaker 1>when Dave stepped down as commander of the post, it

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<v Speaker 1>was Sarah who took over. She became the next commander,

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<v Speaker 1>and then she really was the poster child of Post

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<v Speaker 1>one p. Fifty two.

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<v Speaker 2>Inside the VFW, there was an understanding that the awards

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<v Speaker 2>Sarah had won, the sacrifices she'd made, were fundamentally about service,

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<v Speaker 2>about doing her job, about having the backs of her

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<v Speaker 2>fellow marines. But in the civilian world, her acts of

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<v Speaker 2>valor made her something of a hero for people who'd

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<v Speaker 2>never seen a battlefield. Heroes were the stuff of Hollywood movies,

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<v Speaker 2>people you praised and admired. They certainly weren't people whose

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<v Speaker 2>credentials you questioned, And in the absence of that kind

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<v Speaker 2>of scrutiny, Sarah could truly be that storybook hero, perfect

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<v Speaker 2>blend of valor, tragedy and triumph. That's who Sarah was.

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<v Speaker 2>At her gym place called training for Warriors in Rhode Island.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to take a deep dive here into the

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<v Speaker 2>world of her gym because if you've been wondering why

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<v Speaker 2>would Sarah do any of this, why would she take

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<v Speaker 2>such risks? What was in it for her? Well, the

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<v Speaker 2>story of her gym offers some very interesting answers. One

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<v Speaker 2>afternoon last fall, I sat down with one of the

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<v Speaker 2>Jim's most passionate members.

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<v Speaker 5>My name is Michelle. I'm from East Greenwich, Rhode Island,

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<v Speaker 5>and I teach fitness classes.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you have a favorite class to teach?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, the boot camps by far Slam the rope, slam

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<v Speaker 5>the balls, get that aggression out. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Michelle is in her early sixties with spiky blonde hair.

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<v Speaker 2>She reminds me a lot of the moms from where

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<v Speaker 2>I grew up outside of Boston. When you first meet

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<v Speaker 2>her her at it, it is kind of what the

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<v Speaker 2>hell do you want? Then she'll invite you into her

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<v Speaker 2>home and make you a peanut butter ball and you're in.

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<v Speaker 1>Michelle and Sarah met at the gym. Sarah presented herself

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<v Speaker 1>as a veteran, unemployed and struggling with some injuries. There

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<v Speaker 1>were even a few times that Sarah wore these clunky

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<v Speaker 1>hearing aids that looked like they were from the nineteen eighties.

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<v Speaker 1>Because she was partially deaf, or so she claimed to Michelle.

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<v Speaker 1>One day, Sarah was getting ready to start her workout,

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<v Speaker 1>Michelle noticed that Sarah's sneakers were untied.

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<v Speaker 5>And I was like, oh, your your shoes are untied,

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<v Speaker 5>and so she's like, oh, I can't. I'm not able

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<v Speaker 5>to tie them, and uncle, sit down, girl, we're tying

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<v Speaker 5>those bad boys up.

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<v Speaker 1>So Michelle's words, she became the primary shoe tire. On

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<v Speaker 1>many occasions, Michelle got down on her hands and knees

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<v Speaker 1>just tied Sarah's shoes because Sarah didn't have the dexterity

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<v Speaker 1>in her fingers to do it herself.

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<v Speaker 5>I just looked at her and said, just because you

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<v Speaker 5>ask for help doesn't mean you're helpless. Like, ask for

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<v Speaker 5>someone to help you, don't be silly. And that's sort

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<v Speaker 5>of the way I live my life. You just do you.

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<v Speaker 5>If you want help, ask for it. If you don't

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<v Speaker 5>want help, don't ask for it. And if you tell

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<v Speaker 5>me to keep a secret, I'm going to keep a secret.

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<v Speaker 1>Sarah would eventually tell Michelle a great many secrets about

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<v Speaker 1>herself and her tragic past, secrets that would draw Michelle

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<v Speaker 1>deep into Sarah's world.

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<v Speaker 2>Michelle, along with other members of the gym, came to

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<v Speaker 2>believe that Sarah was suffering from PTSD. Some days, out

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<v Speaker 2>of nowhere, she'd drop into the fetal position. Once, when

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<v Speaker 2>someone was taking pictures, Sarah was triggered. She told Michelle,

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<v Speaker 2>you see a camera, I see a gun. Michelle stepped

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<v Speaker 2>in and asked the person taking the pictures to move.

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<v Speaker 2>This kind of thing. It became a habit for Michelle.

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<v Speaker 5>Would kind of quietly make sure that when she was

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<v Speaker 5>in our environment at the gym, she was protected.

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<v Speaker 2>Sarah had other triggers too. Any surprises or loud noises

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<v Speaker 2>could make her jump literally, which is a real symptom

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<v Speaker 2>of PTSD for vets and for Sarah. Kids were also

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<v Speaker 2>a problem. Yeah. Kids. She told Michelle that she avoided

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<v Speaker 2>them and there was a reason.

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<v Speaker 5>She had told me that she had shot and killed

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<v Speaker 5>a twelve year old boy that was the enemy, and

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<v Speaker 5>she felt she had a lot of guilt related to

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<v Speaker 5>that and a lot of trauma related to that, where

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<v Speaker 5>she would wake up picturing herself shooting that young man

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<v Speaker 5>and just reliving that episode over and over again.

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<v Speaker 2>At this point in the interview with Michelle, my jaw

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<v Speaker 2>was on the floor, because of course this isn't true.

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<v Speaker 2>It's another fictional story Sarah told. But of all the

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<v Speaker 2>lies I'd heard Sarah tell, that one stands out. If

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<v Speaker 2>Sarah was going to make something up about killing someone

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<v Speaker 2>in combat, why say it was a child. It just

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<v Speaker 2>seems so bizarre, the kind of thing that would actually

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<v Speaker 2>put people off from her. But maybe it's because it's

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<v Speaker 2>the kind of story that really does not invite questions.

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<v Speaker 2>Michelle grew attached to Sarah, and their friendship really deepened

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<v Speaker 2>as they started spending time together outside of the gym.

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<v Speaker 2>They'd go for weekly walks in the woods and meet

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<v Speaker 2>for crapes. In those moments, Sarah opened up even more

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<v Speaker 2>about her past. She said she'd been hit by an

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<v Speaker 2>IED blast in Iraq, that she developed a traumatic brain

0:22:03.276 --> 0:22:08.156
<v Speaker 2>injury and damaged her lungs. All of this came out

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<v Speaker 2>piece by peace, one walk at a time, and despite

0:22:13.436 --> 0:22:19.876
<v Speaker 2>all she was facing, Sarah remained resilient, upbeat. Even her

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<v Speaker 2>nickname at the gym was actually Sunshine.

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<v Speaker 5>She was very likable, she was very charismatic, and then

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<v Speaker 5>on top of it, she was a veteran and badass

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<v Speaker 5>and had these injuries and she was coming back from them.

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<v Speaker 2>But a few years into Sarah and Michelle's friendship, Sarah's

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<v Speaker 2>health took a decisive turn for the worse. During their

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<v Speaker 2>walks in the woods, she couldn't catch her breath. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>she needs stop altogether. And one day Sarah tells Michelle why.

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<v Speaker 5>She's like, well, I found out why I'm short of breath.

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<v Speaker 5>I have terminal cancer. I have burn pit cancer, lung cancer.

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<v Speaker 5>So now I'm thinking, shoot, she has no depth perception,

0:23:03.516 --> 0:23:08.996
<v Speaker 5>she's deaf in one ear, she has tactile efficiencies, she

0:23:09.836 --> 0:23:13.716
<v Speaker 5>has steel plates in her shoulders, she's got a rod

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<v Speaker 5>in her leg, she's got PTSD, and now she's got

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<v Speaker 5>burn pit cancer. I'm like, how much more can one

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<v Speaker 5>person handle in their life?

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<v Speaker 2>The gym rallied to help Sarah. They raised thousands of dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>They cooked her meals and peanut butter balls. One couple

0:23:31.356 --> 0:23:35.076
<v Speaker 2>even got her brand new hearing aids. Whatever Sarah said

0:23:35.156 --> 0:23:38.756
<v Speaker 2>she needed, the gym community tried to give it to her.

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<v Speaker 1>And all of this was more than just a pet

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<v Speaker 1>charity was a moment that seemed to clarify what this

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<v Speaker 1>community was all about. It wasn't just someplace where you

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<v Speaker 1>did burpies and crunches. It was a place where people

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<v Speaker 1>showed up each day with and for one another, a

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<v Speaker 1>place where when someone was struggling a hero, someone who'd

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<v Speaker 1>served and suffered and still mustered a little bit of sunshine,

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<v Speaker 1>then damn it, you did something about it. Rallied not

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<v Speaker 1>just because it was the right thing to do, but

0:24:12.316 --> 0:24:15.716
<v Speaker 1>because it was an affirmation of who this community was.

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<v Speaker 1>It almost seemed like Sarah, with her needs, provided something

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<v Speaker 1>that the gym itself needed to.

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<v Speaker 2>The gym buddies showered Sarah with many gifts, and perhaps

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<v Speaker 2>the greatest of these was a wedding. Here's how it

0:24:47.196 --> 0:24:51.076
<v Speaker 2>went down. Sarah told people at the gym that she

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<v Speaker 2>was engaged to Nicole, and their main problem was that

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<v Speaker 2>they couldn't find a wedding venue. But there was this

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<v Speaker 2>couple from the gym, Kate and Mark Feudy. They're in

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<v Speaker 2>their mid fifties. Both had worked at Duncan Donuts headquarters

0:25:05.316 --> 0:25:07.676
<v Speaker 2>where they met and fell in love. That's a New

0:25:07.676 --> 0:25:11.236
<v Speaker 2>Englander's dream, if you ask me. They often took Sarah

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<v Speaker 2>out for dinner, let her use their pool as part

0:25:13.916 --> 0:25:17.796
<v Speaker 2>of her physical therapy. It became really close, almost like

0:25:17.836 --> 0:25:22.076
<v Speaker 2>a set of surrogate parents, Kate and Mark, also have

0:25:22.156 --> 0:25:24.876
<v Speaker 2>a place up in Vermont. Kay told us that one

0:25:24.916 --> 0:25:29.236
<v Speaker 2>day Sarah just kind of dropped the hint, told them.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, we want to get married. We just we can't

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<v Speaker 7>afford it, but we really want. And she almost like

0:25:33.956 --> 0:25:37.276
<v Speaker 7>it's almost like she knew that we had. We said, well,

0:25:37.316 --> 0:25:40.556
<v Speaker 7>you know, if you're willing to go to the Northeast Kingdom,

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<v Speaker 7>we could see what we could do. You know, if

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<v Speaker 7>you wanted to have a wedding, a backyard wedding, you know,

0:25:45.596 --> 0:25:48.116
<v Speaker 7>a small backyard wedding, we have a place up there.

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<v Speaker 2>They're underselling it, but gorgeous farmhouse originally built in eighteen

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<v Speaker 2>fifty one, kind of classic Vermont charm.

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<v Speaker 7>I said to them, like, we have so much like

0:26:00.396 --> 0:26:03.436
<v Speaker 7>farmhouse decor. I go, you should just don't waste money

0:26:03.476 --> 0:26:06.516
<v Speaker 7>on anything for the wedding, just use stuff from around

0:26:06.516 --> 0:26:07.276
<v Speaker 7>the house, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>So problem solved, right, Sarah and Nicole now had a

0:26:11.316 --> 0:26:16.556
<v Speaker 2>picture perfect venue for free. But for Sarah, there was

0:26:16.596 --> 0:26:21.396
<v Speaker 2>actually potential for disaster still lurking. In an act of

0:26:21.516 --> 0:26:25.636
<v Speaker 2>true boldness, Sarah had created a guest list that included

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<v Speaker 2>both people who believed her to be a war hero,

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<v Speaker 2>and people who knew damn well that she wasn't one.

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<v Speaker 2>You had her buddies from the gym in the VFW,

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<v Speaker 2>and then you had people like her own parents who

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<v Speaker 2>knew she'd never served a day in her life. And

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<v Speaker 2>if people started mingling and chatting, as wedding guests tend

0:26:47.836 --> 0:26:53.916
<v Speaker 2>to do, Sarah's lie would quickly be outed. Sarah's saving grace,

0:26:54.556 --> 0:26:58.876
<v Speaker 2>her insurance policy, if you will, hinged on yet another lie,

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<v Speaker 2>which she'd set in motion months before.

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<v Speaker 1>It all started. One night when Sarah arrived unannounced at

0:27:08.596 --> 0:27:09.756
<v Speaker 1>Kate and house.

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<v Speaker 7>She showed up in a panic at our house, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>knocked on the door. I let her in. I was like,

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<v Speaker 7>what's up, Oh my gosh, what are you doing? You

0:27:17.836 --> 0:27:20.076
<v Speaker 7>know I needed to just stop by because I just

0:27:20.396 --> 0:27:22.636
<v Speaker 7>bought my paperwork in the mail. Do you guys want

0:27:22.636 --> 0:27:23.036
<v Speaker 7>to read it?

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<v Speaker 1>The paperwork, which she hands to them, looks like an

0:27:26.956 --> 0:27:31.636
<v Speaker 1>official military document, with Sarah's account of a sexual assault

0:27:31.996 --> 0:27:35.276
<v Speaker 1>that Sarah claimed happened while she was in the military.

0:27:36.116 --> 0:27:39.036
<v Speaker 1>According to Sarah, the military had covered up the whole

0:27:39.076 --> 0:27:42.556
<v Speaker 1>thing and punished Sarah for it. Now she had the

0:27:42.596 --> 0:27:46.356
<v Speaker 1>paperwork detailing the whole ordeal, and it was clear that

0:27:46.436 --> 0:27:48.836
<v Speaker 1>Sarah wanted them to read it right then and there.

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<v Speaker 1>Kate didn't know what to say.

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<v Speaker 7>I said, I go, oh, Sarah, I'm like, that's really private,

0:27:56.316 --> 0:27:58.316
<v Speaker 7>you know, I'm not I don't know. And she goes, well,

0:27:58.396 --> 0:28:00.316
<v Speaker 7>you know, I can't talk to my mom about any

0:28:00.356 --> 0:28:02.996
<v Speaker 7>of this stuff because she can't handle it. She just

0:28:03.036 --> 0:28:05.436
<v Speaker 7>can't handle any of this stuff. Kate, and I know

0:28:05.556 --> 0:28:06.716
<v Speaker 7>you guys can handle it.

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<v Speaker 1>Mark and Kate thought it was odd that Sarah was

0:28:10.276 --> 0:28:13.996
<v Speaker 1>sharing this paperwork with them. They hadn't asked for corroboration,

0:28:14.796 --> 0:28:17.676
<v Speaker 1>but they felt Sarah's need to have someone be with

0:28:17.716 --> 0:28:21.116
<v Speaker 1>her in this moment. So Kate sits with Sarah on

0:28:21.156 --> 0:28:23.356
<v Speaker 1>the couch as Mark reads the report.

0:28:24.196 --> 0:28:27.596
<v Speaker 8>Here's Mark, I couldn't believe what I was reading. What

0:28:27.716 --> 0:28:29.556
<v Speaker 8>this guy did to her and how he beat her

0:28:29.876 --> 0:28:33.076
<v Speaker 8>to the point where she was passed out, crushed her face,

0:28:33.276 --> 0:28:37.396
<v Speaker 8>her cheekbones. I mean, it was it was horrific. And

0:28:37.556 --> 0:28:39.716
<v Speaker 8>did I believe it? Of course I believed. I was

0:28:39.756 --> 0:28:42.196
<v Speaker 8>reading it, and she's sharing this with me, so of

0:28:42.236 --> 0:28:44.196
<v Speaker 8>course I believed it. You know, it was just it

0:28:44.276 --> 0:28:47.476
<v Speaker 8>was very emotional to know that this this woman who's

0:28:47.476 --> 0:28:50.636
<v Speaker 8>sitting right here has gone through this horrific event in

0:28:50.636 --> 0:28:52.916
<v Speaker 8>her life. I could cry thinking about it right now.

0:28:54.356 --> 0:28:57.436
<v Speaker 1>As the wedding date approached, Sarah pulled Mark and Kate

0:28:57.476 --> 0:28:59.716
<v Speaker 1>aside and asked them for a favor.

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<v Speaker 7>Would you guys mind not mention anything about the military

0:29:05.116 --> 0:29:08.836
<v Speaker 7>at all to my parents? She was very specific, I

0:29:08.836 --> 0:29:09.516
<v Speaker 7>don't want to.

0:29:09.836 --> 0:29:10.476
<v Speaker 8>Ruin my day.

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<v Speaker 1>Mark and Kate they understood why Sarah had made this request.

0:29:16.036 --> 0:29:18.996
<v Speaker 1>They both remembered so vividly that night when Sarah showed

0:29:19.076 --> 0:29:21.636
<v Speaker 1>up at their door, when she showed them the paperwork

0:29:21.756 --> 0:29:25.116
<v Speaker 1>with all the details about the sexual assault and how

0:29:25.156 --> 0:29:28.036
<v Speaker 1>she was sharing it with them because her own family

0:29:28.116 --> 0:29:32.556
<v Speaker 1>couldn't deal with it. According to Sarah, that whole incident

0:29:32.676 --> 0:29:36.076
<v Speaker 1>was still extremely traumatic for her parents, so much so

0:29:36.516 --> 0:29:40.716
<v Speaker 1>that any mention of the military at all would upset them.

0:29:41.156 --> 0:29:43.596
<v Speaker 1>Sarah explained, they don't like to.

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<v Speaker 7>Talk about it, and if you don't mind, please don't

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<v Speaker 7>mention anything.

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<v Speaker 1>Sarah quietly made a similar request to others as well.

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<v Speaker 1>She will decide Dave, her buddy from the VFW, the

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<v Speaker 1>guy with the handlebar mustache. She mentioned that her father

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<v Speaker 1>was a former general, and then she warned.

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<v Speaker 6>Whatever you do. Don't talk to my dad about my

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<v Speaker 6>service because it's the source object and I want to

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<v Speaker 6>have the wedding. Nice didn't go well. I don't want

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<v Speaker 6>any drama.

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<v Speaker 2>They have their wedding. Mark and Kate played the role

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<v Speaker 2>of wedding coordinators. Basically, Mark actually cut down a birch

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<v Speaker 2>tree so we could build a pergola for Sarah and

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<v Speaker 2>Nicole to get married under. They set up the benches

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<v Speaker 2>in the backyard and draped tool over the pergola as

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<v Speaker 2>an altar. The wedding colors were blue and gold, the

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<v Speaker 2>Marine Corps colors. The veterans might appreciate this understated touch,

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<v Speaker 2>but it wouldn't tip off anyone else. And there were

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<v Speaker 2>sunflowers Sarah's favorite, in maple syrup buckets along the aisles.

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<v Speaker 2>And sure, people talked and chatted and joked and laughed

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<v Speaker 2>like they do at weddings when things start to get rowdy.

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<v Speaker 2>But somehow Sarah's world stayed separate, or just separate enough

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<v Speaker 2>that her lies hell. And if this seems hard to believe,

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<v Speaker 2>it is this moment, this wedding was something that Jake

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<v Speaker 2>and I were both obsessed with. How was it that

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<v Speaker 2>no one's drunk uncle asked Sarah about her time in

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<v Speaker 2>Iraq that no cousins started chatting too much to the

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<v Speaker 2>VFW guys and figured out sarah charade. But none of

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<v Speaker 2>this happened. It was a pretty perfect summer wedding. Sarah

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<v Speaker 2>emerged from it unscathed. She lived those two lives for

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<v Speaker 2>another three and a half years until January of twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty two. That's when Charity started getting suspicious of Sarah's

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<v Speaker 2>claims and reached out to the authorities to investigate. Rumors

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<v Speaker 2>started circulating that Sarah was an impostor. Word quickly got

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<v Speaker 2>back to Dave that the commander of his VFW post

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<v Speaker 2>might be a fraud, and right away Dave picks up

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<v Speaker 2>the phone.

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<v Speaker 6>I contacted Sarah and I said, hey, what's going on,

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<v Speaker 6>Like I'm hearing this, and she says, yes, some people

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<v Speaker 6>are coming after me. And then she started crying and

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<v Speaker 6>she's like, whatever you do, don't believe them that they're

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<v Speaker 6>trying to mar or you know, disparage me or do whatever.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm like, well, okay, is there anything you need, Like

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<v Speaker 6>can we help out?

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<v Speaker 2>And she says no, just.

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<v Speaker 6>Don't worry about it. I'm dealing with it.

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<v Speaker 2>But the rumors kept going online. There was chatter people

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<v Speaker 2>speculating questioning Sarah's credentials started to snowball.

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<v Speaker 1>As all of this was unfolding. Initially, wasn't too worried because.

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<v Speaker 6>I have the proof that says she's a service member.

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<v Speaker 1>And that proof was the DD two fourteen, Sarah's discharge

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<v Speaker 1>papers from the military, the document that Sarah first presented

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<v Speaker 1>to Dave at the parade six years earlier when she

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<v Speaker 1>first joined his VFW post. And now after hearing these

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<v Speaker 1>rumors in this story from Sarah, Dave is like.

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<v Speaker 6>Hmm, I don't know what's going on, So I'm going

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<v Speaker 6>to get this proof. And then so I call up

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<v Speaker 6>the person a records keeper, and I say, hey, I

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<v Speaker 6>need a copy of her DD form two fourteen. He said, ooh,

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<v Speaker 6>she just left my house two hours ago. She came

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<v Speaker 6>here to the house to come get it.

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<v Speaker 1>What's your reaction When he says that to you.

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<v Speaker 6>That's when I start thinking something's not right here.

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<v Speaker 1>Definitely not right. And Dave's proof had just vanished because

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<v Speaker 1>apparently Sarah was one step ahead of him.

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<v Speaker 9>Next time on deep Cover, I've always been told I'm

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<v Speaker 9>a really good listener, right and I maximized that while

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<v Speaker 9>I was lying right, people when you create space, people

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<v Speaker 9>fill that space.

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<v Speaker 1>Deep Cover The Truth About Sarah was produced by Amy

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<v Speaker 1>Gaines McQuaid and Tally Emlin, Additional production support by Sonya Gerwit.

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<v Speaker 2>Our show is edited by Karen Chakerjee. Our executive producer

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<v Speaker 2>is Jacob Smith, mastering by Jake Gorsky.

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<v Speaker 1>Original scoring in our theme were composed by Luis Gara.

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<v Speaker 1>Our show art was designed by Sean Carney, fact checking

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<v Speaker 1>by Anica Robbins.

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<v Speaker 2>Special thanks to Sarah Nis, Izzy Carter, Daphne Chen, Jake

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<v Speaker 2>Flanagan and Greta Cone. Additional thanks to Vicki Merrick, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>Jess McHugh.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm Jake Halpern. My co host, Jess McHugh is

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<v Speaker 1>currently researching a book on female con artists.