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Speaker 3: What's up, everybody?

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Speaker 2: Welcome to another preseason episode of the Fantasy Flex podcast

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Speaker 2: from the Action Network. I'm your host, Chris Raybon, and

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Speaker 2: I'm joined, as always by the best projector in the game,

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Speaker 2: the odds maker, Sean Turner.

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Speaker 3: Sean, what's going on?

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Speaker 1: What's up? Happy? NBA Finals?

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Speaker 4: I know this is a busy time of year for you,

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Speaker 4: and we're a couple weeks away before you stop, you know,

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Speaker 4: saying the NFC at Atlantic or things like that. So

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Speaker 4: I know after the finals that's when you really switch

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Speaker 1: Hard can't wait for that?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, man, I mean I feel like I'm already in it.

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Speaker 2: We we just did some NFL content that'll be dropping

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Speaker 2: And the Chargers took me like eight hours, so god, yeah,

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Speaker 2: like everything's new with them. But yeah, I feel like

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Speaker 2: feel good. And on today's episode, we are going to

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Speaker 2: dive into some high upside late round running backs. And

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Speaker 3: And models as well.

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Speaker 2: But High Upside the late Round running backs, we each

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Speaker 2: got four that we really like, so we'll do eight

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Speaker 2: Who's your favorite high upside late round running back this year?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so just to start when I think of like

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I love it, And yeah, it's it's too going

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Speaker 4: Going back to my boy here, Zach Charboney at RB

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Speaker 3: Because of that, my.

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Speaker 3: Because the Cowboys, you.

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Speaker 3: You know, age and wear and tear and washed this

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Speaker 4: he's probably going to be their starting running back. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: But I'm just not really scared of duce Vaughan making

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Speaker 2: Yeah, his last season in Dallas in twenty twenty two,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, knock away, don't don't, don't sustain any camp injury, Zeke.

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Speaker 3: Where are you going next?

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Speaker 4: Let's go with the Dolphins backfield. I'm gonna go Jillen

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Speaker 4: he can provide some spiked weeks even when both running

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's kind of like the xavior worthy of running backs.

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Speaker 2: And last year, just for reference, Raheem Mostert the RB

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Speaker 2: And yeah, I would bet money that Raheem Mostert is

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's just kind of what he does.

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Speaker 2: Alrighty, next up for me, I got Ray Davis, the

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Speaker 2: wasn't really many great running back landing spots in this draft.

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Speaker 2: One of these guys who you know, people may not

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I love this landing spot for him. And similar to

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Speaker 4: He was the workhorse back for all seventeen games. He

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he showed some flashes as a pass catcher, so

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Speaker 2: I think he could definitely handle some some free down

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Speaker 2: Last number four favorite high upside best ball running back.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so this one's more of a dark throw, but

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Speaker 4: You know, the Chargers took him in the sixth round.

438
00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:16,960
Speaker 4: I thought he was a sneaky prospect out of Troy,

439
00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:19,760
Speaker 4: But this is a great landing spot for him because

440
00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:22,960
Speaker 4: you kind of alluded to it took you forever to

441
00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:25,520
Speaker 4: project the Chargers because who the hell knows what's going

442
00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:28,320
Speaker 4: on there. But the backfield specifically is a bit of

443
00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:31,679
Speaker 4: a question mark. I mean, Gus Edwards is expected to

444
00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:34,200
Speaker 4: be the lead back while the running back he's backed

445
00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:37,880
Speaker 4: up the past few seasons, and JK. Dobbins is also there.

446
00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:41,560
Speaker 4: I guess he's the backup now. But Dobbins is coming

447
00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:45,119
Speaker 4: off an Achilles tear, which we know is the most

448
00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:48,800
Speaker 4: detrimental injury a running back can have. So who knows

449
00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:51,760
Speaker 4: if Dobbins will regain his form this year or ever.

450
00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:55,200
Speaker 4: So this is just a very murky backfield. And I think,

451
00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:59,080
Speaker 4: you know, the Chargers drafting Videll is also an indictment

452
00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:01,880
Speaker 4: against all who hasn't lived up to his fourth round

453
00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:04,479
Speaker 4: draft capital not too worried about him. This is a

454
00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:09,800
Speaker 4: new coaching regime anyway under Harbaugh, so this is going

455
00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:13,960
Speaker 4: to be a more run heavy offense. So and Viydell,

456
00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:15,840
Speaker 4: you know, he's a smaller back at five eight, but

457
00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:19,240
Speaker 4: he's two hundred thirteen pounds proved at Troy. He can handle,

458
00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:22,000
Speaker 4: you know, a massive workload. So if Edward, Dan or

459
00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:25,000
Speaker 4: Dobbins go down like I think he could handle twenty

460
00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:28,800
Speaker 4: plus touches but this is just a scenario where the

461
00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:32,480
Speaker 4: charters backfield is going to be volatile, and a player

462
00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:36,040
Speaker 4: that would benefit from the volatility would be Videll. So

463
00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:39,560
Speaker 4: this is just a situation where he might be throwing

464
00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:42,280
Speaker 4: a depth chart, but he doesn't need much to break

465
00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:45,399
Speaker 4: his way to provide you know, top thirty values. So

466
00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:47,520
Speaker 4: I think he's he's a sneaky flyer in then I

467
00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:49,679
Speaker 4: wouldn't go nuts and draft him on every team, but

468
00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:52,520
Speaker 4: he does have enough upside and is in a murky

469
00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:56,320
Speaker 4: situation where he's definitely worth a fly around this range.

470
00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, and here's why I think he's This is such

471
00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:03,800
Speaker 2: a a great dart throw. Greg Roman taken over at

472
00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:09,520
Speaker 2: offensive coordinator for the Chargers. He has coordinated ten, you know,

473
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:14,280
Speaker 2: ten offenses in his career. He has never had an

474
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:18,880
Speaker 2: offense finished lower than ninth in rushing attempts. He's only

475
00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:22,560
Speaker 2: had three of the ten finished outside the top three

476
00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:24,080
Speaker 2: in rushing attempts.

477
00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:26,280
Speaker 3: So you are going to see.

478
00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:30,440
Speaker 2: A ton of volume, I think for this backfield, and

479
00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:32,840
Speaker 2: it should be it should be efficient because when you're

480
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,360
Speaker 2: throwing the ball justin Herbert's you know, still gonna be efficient.

481
00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:36,919
Speaker 2: So you're gonna be able to move the ball, you're

482
00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:38,280
Speaker 2: gonna be able to get scoring position.

483
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:40,200
Speaker 3: And JK.

484
00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:44,080
Speaker 2: Dobbins, you know, I feel like we're down on him

485
00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:48,000
Speaker 2: every year and love, love his talent, but JK. Dobbins

486
00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:51,239
Speaker 2: has now played what he's been in the league, what

487
00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:57,200
Speaker 2: four years now, he's he's played twenty four games over

488
00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:59,800
Speaker 2: that span. Yeah, yeah, he got drafted in the twenty

489
00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:02,199
Speaker 2: two he's played. He's only played twenty four games in

490
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:06,680
Speaker 2: four years. He He's only had more than fifteen carries

491
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:10,160
Speaker 2: in a game once in his career and that was seventeen.

492
00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:10,840
Speaker 3: So JK.

493
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 2: Dobbins has never been a workhorse, and I think that

494
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,199
Speaker 2: ship has sailed now that you know, he's coming off

495
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,679
Speaker 2: the Achilles and he's just every time. I mean, he

496
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:20,879
Speaker 2: plays well and he's on the field, but just like

497
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:22,760
Speaker 2: they have to kind of keep him in bubble wrap.

498
00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:25,640
Speaker 2: And then Gus Edwards, I mean, he's always been kind

499
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:27,840
Speaker 2: of a you know, eight to twelve carry guy, and

500
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:31,119
Speaker 2: he can do more, but uh, there could just be

501
00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:35,920
Speaker 2: a Week one role for Vadal right off jump, especially

502
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:39,040
Speaker 2: if Dobbins, you know, I know he's kind of optimistic,

503
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,159
Speaker 2: and you know, I hope he gets I hope he

504
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:42,040
Speaker 2: gets back, you.

505
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:43,440
Speaker 3: Know, for his sake, because that's just got.

506
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:45,840
Speaker 2: To be this has got to be a lot mentally

507
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 2: to deal with, just you know, injury after injury. But

508
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:51,200
Speaker 2: you know, in terms of projecting and forecasting this backfield

509
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:55,800
Speaker 2: and in the carries, I find it hard not to

510
00:25:55,840 --> 00:26:00,280
Speaker 2: project Vidal for you know, approaching one hundred carries as

511
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 2: a rookie, even in this committee. So he might have

512
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 2: He's another guy might have some standalone value weeks in basketball.

513
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:10,119
Speaker 2: And that's the thing about basketball, you don't have to

514
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:14,119
Speaker 2: know when they are so loved that one as well.

515
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,879
Speaker 2: That's that's a guy definitely would have, definitely would have

516
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 2: picked if you hadn't taken.

517
00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 4: Up what was it Dobbins a couple of years ago,

518
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:25,720
Speaker 4: who like broke off that eighty yard run. He was

519
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:28,000
Speaker 4: like limping the whole way said, if like our boy

520
00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:33,560
Speaker 4: Darren Rvel running a four year cash I think I think, yeah,

521
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:36,000
Speaker 4: that was twenty twenty two. He was coming back from

522
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:39,159
Speaker 4: an acl terror. He didn't look right, but you know

523
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 4: he still broke off an eighty yard touchdown. Not one

524
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:43,879
Speaker 4: hundred percent, but it just got he's been dealing with

525
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,360
Speaker 4: injury after injury. Feel bad for him. And just an

526
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 4: Achilles is really tough. So you know, I don't have

527
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:52,680
Speaker 4: high hopes for him this year. But again, like he

528
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 4: was a talented back, it's just been unfortunate. But more

529
00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 4: quick thing about Midell is he's a pretty good pass

530
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 4: blocker for rookie. So I think that's that's kind of

531
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,439
Speaker 4: how he can get a Week one roll as the

532
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 4: third down back. I mean that's not Gus Edwards specialty

533
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 4: by any means. So you know, I think he could

534
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 4: become sort of the third down back at least initially.

535
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:18,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that would make that would make sense because

536
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 2: you know, they they also gave Will Disley all these

537
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,639
Speaker 2: former Seahawks titands just like cashed in in free agency,

538
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:30,239
Speaker 2: Kobe Parkinson, Parsley. But yeah, so the Chargers go out

539
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 2: and they signed Will Disley to be their starting tight end,

540
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 2: give them ten mil guaranteed. So you know, anytime you

541
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,359
Speaker 2: have a kind of a blocking type, I know, just

542
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:40,200
Speaker 2: we used to be a good pass catcher. Right now

543
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,119
Speaker 2: he's like known as one of the best blockers. You

544
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:45,240
Speaker 2: know that that opens up, you know, some some potential

545
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 2: routes for the running back instead, and like you said,

546
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:50,159
Speaker 2: Edwards and to a lesser extent.

547
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 3: Dobbins not really known as as pass catchers.

548
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 2: So yeah, a lot of different ways I think Vidal

549
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 2: could could secure a role here.

550
00:27:58,560 --> 00:27:58,880
Speaker 1: All right.

551
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:02,119
Speaker 2: For my last guy, this isn't going to be an

552
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,960
Speaker 2: interesting one because I don't think he's on many people's radars.

553
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 2: But I would be remiss if I don't mention him

554
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 2: just because of what's going on with the Houston Texans offense.

555
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 3: And that's Damian Pierce.

556
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 2: You know, post hype, you could get him in round

557
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 2: seventeen at one ninety fourth overall, he's essentially free in

558
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:22,639
Speaker 2: most drafts, and he's just one of these guys that's

559
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:27,879
Speaker 2: a kind of a situation where, Okay, you trade for

560
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 2: Joe Mixon, but you know, he's in a new spot

561
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:32,880
Speaker 2: and he's you know, kind of on the older side

562
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:37,199
Speaker 2: for running backs. You're in an offense that has you know,

563
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 2: three of the best receivers in the game and one

564
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:40,480
Speaker 2: of the best quarterbacks in the game.

565
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 3: So it's going to be a high scoring offense.

566
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:45,720
Speaker 2: And all he needs is you know, one Joe Mixon

567
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 2: injury a couple a week here, week there, and he's

568
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 2: going to be back into that you know, fifteen to

569
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 2: twenty touch role that he had as a rookie, And

570
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 2: what really happened to him in year two was that,

571
00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,960
Speaker 2: you know, Bobby Slow if they switched the run scheme

572
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 2: up and Pierce just never grasped it. But now you know,

573
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:08,240
Speaker 2: another offseason to kind of uh grasp the scheme and

574
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 2: you know, work with the offensive line and all that stuff.

575
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 2: I think he'll be better this year, and if called upon,

576
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 2: I think he'll be able to be more productive than

577
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 2: he was last year.

578
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 3: He just could never get it going.

579
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 2: So, you know, as good as this Texans offense is

580
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 2: expected to be, you know, we're all kind of focused

581
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 2: on the pass game with Diggs and Collins and Tank

582
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 2: Dell and CJ. Stroud and Don Schultz and all those guys,

583
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 2: but you know, the running back could have some sneaky value.

584
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:37,960
Speaker 2: You know, last year it just running back. The touchdowns

585
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 2: didn't really go their running backs way. But you know,

586
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:41,560
Speaker 2: if they're moving the ball up and down the field,

587
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 2: we know touchdowns are high variants. So I think, you know,

588
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 2: Pierce is just one injury away from a very valuable

589
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 2: role and.

590
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 3: He's essentially free. So I've been taking some some flyers

591
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 3: on him.

592
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's he's definitely going in that range where you

593
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 4: look at other backs like Tink Bixby Elijah Mitchell. Even

594
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:03,960
Speaker 4: if the starting running back were to go down, I

595
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 4: don't know if they're going to provide RB two value,

596
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 4: but I think we could be more confident that that

597
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 4: Pierce will because, like you said, the depth chart behind him.

598
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 4: Johar Jordan might potentially eat in his work, but I

599
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 4: think Pierce would be the guy. So I think your

600
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 4: process here is right where Pierce in that RB sixty

601
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 4: range does make a ton of sense. And I guess

602
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 4: you won't be taking his under nine and a half

603
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,960
Speaker 4: rushing yards problems are I.

604
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:32,560
Speaker 2: Mean maybe if mixing is maybe if Mixing has like

605
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 2: the singletary role week one and he's helps me, you know,

606
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 2: like I will, but yeah no, And like another thing

607
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 2: I like about Pierce, you know, is like because like

608
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:41,760
Speaker 2: most of the guys we're talking about here at rookies, right,

609
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 2: So if you're if you're going for other guys, I

610
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 2: like the fact that you know, this is a guy

611
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 2: who was being drafted in the top twenty five in

612
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 2: his rookie year. This is a guy who you know,

613
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 2: has shown that he can be a startable fantasy running

614
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 2: back in the past, so he at Wes Had and

615
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 2: he's only in what this is, year three, so you know,

616
00:30:58,360 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 2: it's like kind of a post hype.

617
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,120
Speaker 3: But he does have somewhat of a track record.

618
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:02,719
Speaker 4: Uh.

619
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 2: And like you mentioned Bigsby, who's another guy I think

620
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 2: is worth it is worth a dart throw.

621
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 3: But you mentioned you're kind of a little unsure by him.

622
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:11,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it could be coach speak, but they

623
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 2: are saying they want to get him some more wooks.

624
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 2: So he's a guy to keep in mind as well.

625
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 2: But there are a couple of other situations I just

626
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 2: want to kind of get your thoughts on. The first

627
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 2: being you know, what do you make of this Green

628
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 2: Bay backfield, because you know, Josh Jacob's probably going to

629
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:29,480
Speaker 2: be a workhorse. But they resigned A. J. Dillon and

630
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 2: then they drafted Marshaun Lloyd, so h in the reverse order.

631
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 2: I think they drafted Lloyd and then they resigned Dylan.

632
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 2: So do you think it's like kind of a red

633
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 2: shirt ear for Lloyd the way it was a red

634
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 2: shirt ear for Dylan when he was behind Jones and

635
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 2: Jamal Williams, Or do you think Lloyd is just a

636
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:51,479
Speaker 2: better player and has like that has more upside if

637
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 2: Jacob's were to go down in your one.

638
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, no, I think that's that's a good play.

639
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 4: I think I don't view this as a red shirt

640
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 4: ear for Lloyd. I think he absolutely has the talent

641
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 4: to pass up AJ Dillon as soon as this year.

642
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 4: Obviously I'm always a little biased towards USC players, full disclosure,

643
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 4: but I thought Lloyd was sneaky going in this draft.

644
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 4: And we've seen enough AJ Dillon now where I've you know,

645
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 4: kind of moved on from him. So I do think

646
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 4: that Josh Jacobs will be the workhorse back, but Lloyd

647
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 4: will certainly make a case to be you know, his

648
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 4: direct backup or see enough work you know, even when

649
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 4: Jacobs is healthy to potentially provide value. So no, I

650
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 4: think that Lloyd could absolutely pass up a J Dillon

651
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 4: this here.

652
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, And like for all doing size, I thought Dylan

653
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 2: actually looked his best as a pass catcher last year.

654
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 2: Go figure, So you know, maybe Marshron Lloyd just gets

655
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 2: that number two running back, running roll down and Dylan

656
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 2: is more of you know, the pass catcher, pass.

657
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 3: Blocker type of type of guy.

658
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 2: But but one can play all three downs, So yeah,

659
00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 2: I just wanted to ask, but I'm kind of there too.

660
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 2: It's it's really hard to project project them because just

661
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 2: because you do also have the track record of Green

662
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 2: Bay kind of red shirting, you know, a day two

663
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 2: running back pick. But yeah, I think Dylan, yeah, that

664
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 2: was kind of okay. We can sign him on the cheap,

665
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 2: you know, so why not. But yeah, you know, Lloyd

666
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 2: may pass him up, you know, as soon, you know,

667
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 2: going into week one, he might end up jumping him

668
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 2: in camp.

669
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 3: So that's when to watch.

670
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 2: And then another one that I always struggle with is

671
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 2: Elijah Mitchell because you know he can get him usually

672
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 2: out outside of the top fifty running back. Let's see

673
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 2: where is he going? Yeah, RB sixty seven in consensus.

674
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 2: He's picked number two hundred overall in Best Ball, so

675
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 2: you know, he goes super late. I know they drafted

676
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 2: a running back in Grendo, but you know, Christian McCaffrey's

677
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 2: most weeks, he plays every single snap.

678
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 3: This offense is one of the best in the league.

679
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 2: If McCaffrey were to go down, Mitchell almost certainly would

680
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 2: be next in line.

681
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 3: But do you think he's.

682
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 2: Worth the risk given his durability issues thus far in

683
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:09,320
Speaker 2: his young career.

684
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's a good question, because I mean, anytime

685
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:18,359
Speaker 4: we're drafting Christian McCaffrey's backup, the only time they're ever

686
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 4: going to provide value is when he's out. And McCaffrey

687
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:26,359
Speaker 4: has proven to be very durable in this Niners scheme.

688
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 4: So it's already a risky proposition. But I think now

689
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:31,320
Speaker 4: there is some uncertainty.

690
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:31,959
Speaker 1: I don't know if.

691
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 4: Mitchell would just be, you know, the plug and play

692
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 4: high end RB two guy, like we're kind of use

693
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:40,400
Speaker 4: to sing if the starter goes down. I do like Grendo.

694
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 4: They took him in the fourth round. He is very fast,

695
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:47,319
Speaker 4: it seems like a perfect fit for this scheme, So

696
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 4: I would be a little bit more cautious just giving

697
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 4: Mitchell RB two status when McCaffrey goes down. I think

698
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,719
Speaker 4: Grendo could be a problem. So that's why I'd be

699
00:34:56,960 --> 00:35:00,760
Speaker 4: a little hesitant to take Mitchell now. He he himself

700
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:05,800
Speaker 4: has had durability issues even as the backup, So normally

701
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 4: I would say absolutely, but I think right now the

702
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 4: Grendo selection in the fourth round does give me some pause.

703
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Jordan Mason has been productive, oh when he's

704
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 2: been on the field. But I mean Mitchell is somewhat

705
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 2: intriguing and just you know, because he does have that

706
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 2: track record and he is, you know, as far as

707
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:25,400
Speaker 2: we know, still the you know, still the backup. So

708
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 2: I just wanted to do you want to get your

709
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 2: thoughts on I don't know where I am on him either.

710
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:31,239
Speaker 2: I'm probably not going to get too much of him,

711
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 2: but I mean RB sixty seven, I'll definitely have some exposure,

712
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:37,959
Speaker 2: you know, maybe five percent of my teams or something

713
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 2: something like that.

714
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:39,720
Speaker 3: Just yeah, it's a little sprinkle.

715
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:40,360
Speaker 1: Yeah.

716
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:43,279
Speaker 4: Well, to be fair, he doesn't even need McCaffrey to

717
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,239
Speaker 4: get hurt, you know, when they have those blowouts.

718
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:47,280
Speaker 1: He does handle the mop up duty.

719
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 4: And he had you know, a couple of touchdowns, some

720
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 4: longer runs in the fourth quarter and they pull the starters.

721
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:55,359
Speaker 4: So I guess he does have that appeal because the

722
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 4: forty nine ers are going to be as good this year,

723
00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 4: so he does get some work in blowouts. So that's

724
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 4: another way he can provide you some best ball, you

725
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 4: know weeks.

726
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then definitely Tyra Algier, I guess we don't

727
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 2: have to talk about he's pretty cut and dry. I

728
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 2: feel like he would be a feature back if if

729
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 2: Bijon were to go down, and we've seen him in

730
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 2: that role before and he's he's been very productive. So

731
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 2: but he is, he's kind of going where he's supposed

732
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 2: to RB forty five, not as much value. But I

733
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 2: do have a question for you on a backfield that

734
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 2: was starting it's starting to with a little bit murky,

735
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 2: and that is the Denver Broncos because you have, you know,

736
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:43,840
Speaker 2: Javonte Williams really fell off a cliff last season, especially

737
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 2: down the stretch, ended up averaging under four yards of

738
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 2: carry on the season, even though he was able to

739
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:55,360
Speaker 2: play in sixteen of these seventeen games, only had three touchdowns,

740
00:36:55,840 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 2: only had two point nine catches for fourteen zero point

741
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 2: three yards per game, which which is a yard per

742
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 2: catch of four point nine. His second straight year of

743
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 2: averaging under five yards per catch. So you have Williams

744
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 2: going to RB thirty one. Then you have McLoughlin, who was,

745
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 2: you know, kind of the the guy that you know,

746
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 2: looked like the next up guy undrafted free agent last year.

747
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 2: He was most of the he kind of stayed in

748
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 2: at RB three lane. He's going RB forty nine, which

749
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 2: seems a bit rich because you also got fifth round

750
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:36,719
Speaker 2: pick Audric Estime, who who I like, and you know

751
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:39,800
Speaker 2: he's going RB seventy and then Samaj p Ryan is

752
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 2: still there and he might still reclaim his role just

753
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,359
Speaker 2: you know, be the passing down back and he's going

754
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:47,759
Speaker 2: to RB seventy six. Now some people even think p

755
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:50,320
Speaker 2: Ryan is a cut candidate. So a lot of different

756
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 2: ways is Bronco backfield could go. But my question to

757
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,399
Speaker 2: you is, who do you think out of those four

758
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 2: guys Williams at RB thirty one, McLoughlin RB forty nine,

759
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:04,240
Speaker 2: and then Estimate at seventy and p Ry at seventy six,

760
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:08,440
Speaker 2: who's the best value, Who's the highest upside guy relative

761
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 2: to adp in that Bronco backfield?

762
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 1: Do you think?

763
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:14,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would go with McLaughlin and you kind of

764
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 4: allude to it.

765
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:15,799
Speaker 1: It's kind of rich.

766
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 4: It looks like, you know, RB fifty range, but he

767
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:23,800
Speaker 4: has that you know, explosive eighty R touchdown potential where

768
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 4: even if it is a murky mess, which it does

769
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:29,239
Speaker 4: seem like it will be, he could still offer best

770
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:31,920
Speaker 4: ball weeks. It'd be tough to have him in like

771
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 4: a re draft league where you got to figure out

772
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 4: what week he's gonna score a longer touchdown or something.

773
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 4: But best ball, you know, you kind of embrace that

774
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 4: and estimate it's probably minor. But he did undergo a

775
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 4: knee scope, so that's something to monitor if he's getting

776
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 4: me ready to go. But I like what I saw

777
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 4: about from McLaughlan last year, and yeah, samaj piergrind, he's

778
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 4: an annoying piece of this puzzle. So yeah, ideally he

779
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:57,400
Speaker 4: gets cut and it just clears up or gives us

780
00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 4: a little bit more clarity. But I would say went healthy.

781
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:04,879
Speaker 4: This is still Javonte's backfield. You know, he was coming

782
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 4: back from injury last year, right, so willing to forgive

783
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 4: him a little bit on last year. But yeah, like

784
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 4: you said, this is kind of a mess, and unless

785
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 4: we get some sort of cut like p Ryan, it's

786
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 4: going to continue to be a mess. But Juliel I

787
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 4: think offers the most inherent upside in my opinion, what

788
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 4: I could see.

789
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 2: Them doing is keeping they might keep four backs on

790
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:30,279
Speaker 2: the on the roster. I mean, I don't know if

791
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:32,840
Speaker 2: Esma would make it to the practice squad if he

792
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 2: if he were to get you know cut in the preseason,

793
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:36,400
Speaker 2: he did have some buzz.

794
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 3: It was still a fifth rounder, so maybe not.

795
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 2: But you know, I think I think what would happen

796
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 2: is they would keep four and just make you know,

797
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 2: Estimate inactive, because I think he would be kind of

798
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 2: like the direct backup to Javonte Williams. But yeah, I'm

799
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:57,280
Speaker 2: kind of with you. I think McLaughlin offers the most,

800
00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 2: you know, just pure talent. Uh you know that's like

801
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 2: relative to ADP.

802
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 3: I mean, Williams.

803
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 2: It seems like the injury, we don't know if he's

804
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:06,400
Speaker 2: going to get back to where he was at. And

805
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:08,760
Speaker 2: the fact that they drafted Estimate they only had limited

806
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 2: draft capital, So the fact that they draft used a

807
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:15,239
Speaker 2: fifth rounder on Audric Estimate isn't doesn't exactly make me

808
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:17,799
Speaker 2: feel great about how they feel.

809
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:19,840
Speaker 3: About Javonte Williams.

810
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:24,399
Speaker 2: So yeah, I think McLoughlin hopefully he drops a little

811
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 2: bit and another guy before we and then we'll get

812
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:28,880
Speaker 2: out of here. I just noticed Tuba Hubbard is down

813
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:32,400
Speaker 2: to RB forty seven, and I think that's interesting. I know,

814
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 2: we love Jonathan Brooks and it looks like he may

815
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 2: be ready by week one, but Miles Sanders has been

816
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 2: in a lot of trade rumors, so you know, Sanders

817
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 2: is the guy that might end up on like the

818
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 2: Dallas Cowboys or something like that, if that happens. And

819
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:51,360
Speaker 2: even if it does it, I mean Tuba Hubbard ran

820
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 2: circles around Miles Sanders. So Miles Sanders is another guy

821
00:40:55,160 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 2: you know probably maybe either zero carries or potentially even

822
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 2: because he doesn't play secial teams, he could be another

823
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 2: guy that's like an inactive if they keep him on

824
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 2: the roster. So Troub Hubbard, if he keeps dropping RB

825
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 2: forty seven, I mean you have a chance that he

826
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 2: starts week one as the starter. He can play all

827
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:16,880
Speaker 2: three downs, and you know his main competition is a

828
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:20,799
Speaker 2: guy who you know couldn't get positive yarded last year

829
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 2: and a guy who a rookie was coming off a

830
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 2: serious injury. So Toub Hubbard another guy not as sexy,

831
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:30,719
Speaker 2: but definitely some definitely if you're talking upside, especially in

832
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 2: basketball where you don't have to predict when Touba Hubbard

833
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:36,279
Speaker 2: is a guy I would take all day at OURB

834
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:36,880
Speaker 2: forty seven.

835
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's similar to Zeke where he might be the

836
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 4: workhorse back by default Brooks. You know he tours ACL

837
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 4: in November, so there's a chance he's not going to

838
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 4: be one hundred percent to start the season, and maybe

839
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:52,799
Speaker 4: the Panthers want to kind of limit him, similar to

840
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:54,879
Speaker 4: you know how the Jets handled Breeze haall last year.

841
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 1: So yeah, I could see.

842
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 4: A path for Hubbard hitting value there, especially if they

843
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 4: get rid of Sanders. They did recently acquire Rashad Penny,

844
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 4: you know, who always pops up when you least expect.

845
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 4: I thought the Eagles would use him at some point

846
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 4: last year. They didn't, but he's there right now. But yeah,

847
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 4: I can get behind Chuba hubbardt RB forty seven because

848
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 4: he technically doesn't really need anybody to.

849
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:19,720
Speaker 1: Get hurt to provide value.

850
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 4: He might just be the de facto starter week one

851
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:26,440
Speaker 4: until Brooks and inevitably is healthier. But I love Brooks.

852
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 4: I think he has a ton of upside. So but

853
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:32,399
Speaker 4: I can get behind Hubbard at RB forty seven.

854
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Penny is a guy to watch just to

855
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 2: kind of, you know, in terms of like figuring out

856
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:40,279
Speaker 2: how this backward is going to shake out. Because Canalis,

857
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 2: who is the new head coach in Tampa Bay, remember

858
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 2: he was in Seattle for a long time, and you

859
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:47,880
Speaker 2: know he is in Seattle. That's when Penny was actually

860
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 2: getting usage. And then he went to Philadelphia and he

861
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 2: was buried completely. So who knows, Maybe Penny beats out

862
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:57,319
Speaker 2: Miles Sanders and they trade Miles Sanders, you know, so

863
00:42:57,600 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 2: Penny could be a factor as well. But yeah, as

864
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:02,400
Speaker 2: of right now, I do like that value on Tuba.

865
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:07,160
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