1 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Great radio. Let's go. 2 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:09,559 Speaker 1: Let's go the playoff into the playoff night we go, 3 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield, Jadeen Daniels. The watch party is about to 4 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 1: begin here on Fox Sports Radio. We cannot wait. We've 5 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:20,760 Speaker 1: been talking about these guys all year long, so let's 6 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 1: get it on and we start off with this. Ephraim. 7 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 1: I'm reminded it was either a week or two ago 8 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 1: I was getting the story from you about how you 9 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 1: and your lovely met and how you started your relationship. 10 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 1: You remember sharing that story, yes, And this was classically 11 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:44,519 Speaker 1: one of those things where you told me it was 12 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 1: pretty quick to when you just quote knew, you just knew. 13 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 1: And how many great relationships do you know where when 14 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 1: you ask them, you know, young person's like, how do 15 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 1: you know when you're in love? Well, the answer is 16 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 1: because there's no other good answer. You just know, just know, 17 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 1: you just know. Well, Pittsburgh Steeler fans, now's that time, 18 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 1: isn't it. I don't know what the change is. I 19 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 1: just know it's time for something, but it's time for 20 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 1: something to be different with Pittsburgh Steeler Nation. 21 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I you're right. And before we start, let me 22 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 2: just say me here being in southern California, Oh, thank 23 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:39,040 Speaker 2: you for this my bad shout out to all the 24 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:41,320 Speaker 2: man and look at it. And I'm telling you, man, 25 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 2: it is it is a sight. Man, it is heartbreaking. 26 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 2: It is gut wrenching to see the devastation of these fires. 27 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 2: People are losing everything. And when I mean everything, I 28 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 2: mean everything, including some loved one. And it is you know, 29 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 2: our hearts here at Fox Sports Radio Serious XMI Heart Radio, 30 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 2: we our hearts go out to those who are being 31 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 2: affected by this. If you can help, donate time, energy, 32 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 2: it doesn't have to be money or you know, close 33 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 2: whatever it is you can do to help. Because the 34 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 2: fires are still going. I'm talking about whole neighborhoods. It's 35 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:31,919 Speaker 2: not like in the mountains. I'm talking about their whole 36 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 2: city's gone. And shout out to the first responders, to 37 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 2: firefighters from all over the country who've come in and 38 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 2: out of the country in some cases to lend a 39 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 2: helping hand. We packed up when there was a you know, 40 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:50,919 Speaker 2: the Hollywood Hills fire. Then there was a fire right 41 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 2: down in Sherman Oaks, so we had, you know, packed 42 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 2: up and on the ready and ready to go. These 43 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:58,640 Speaker 2: fires are still going. Thank god. We've had a break 44 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 2: on with the wind, but the win is supposed to 45 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 2: pick up again. So keep those who are affected in 46 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 2: your prayers and anything you can do that you think 47 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 2: you can do to lind a hand, Linda Han, bring food, 48 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 2: bring water. These firefighters are going, you know, twenty four 49 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:15,519 Speaker 2: to forty eight hours straight without any rest because they're 50 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 2: fighting and fighting and fighting. So shout out to all 51 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:22,079 Speaker 2: the first responders and those out here trying to save 52 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 2: lives and protect property. 53 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 1: Thank you for putting first things first, because it's something 54 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 1: that I'm sure people around the country, especially if you 55 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 1: don't know the area, you can't really wrap your head around. 56 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 1: And you know, I've moved from southern California, but when 57 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 1: I live there, it was pretty dang close to a 58 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 1: lot of the stuff that is being affected. So there 59 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 1: are plenty of friends and loved ones and whatnot who 60 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 1: are in this area. I know you are still in 61 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 1: the area. We know if you're a faithful listener to 62 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 1: the network that Fox Sports Radio is in the neighborhood 63 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 1: to the point where we had to shut down operations 64 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 1: temporarily this week, and so this has been this has 65 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:16,279 Speaker 1: been something and I just i'm almost a from I'm 66 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:22,839 Speaker 1: afraid to really dive into what this the after math, 67 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:25,599 Speaker 1: which I know we're not there, we're not in aftermath, 68 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 1: we're not fully there yet, but like, I'm afraid to 69 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 1: see what this looks like because this is not a 70 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: forest fire. This is not a forest fire for people 71 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 1: who you know, don't live in California, and you hear 72 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 1: people politicize stuff like this and get into this, that 73 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:45,839 Speaker 1: and the other about what's going on. This is not 74 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 1: a forest fire. The fire hydrants were full. This is 75 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 1: a disaster of epic proportions going through unbelievably beautiful residential neighborhoods. 76 00:04:56,520 --> 00:05:01,159 Speaker 1: And it's overwhelming. It's overwhelming. I there's there are just 77 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 1: no words for what for what everybody's going through there. 78 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:06,839 Speaker 1: So I appreciate you putting that off the top, because 79 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 1: that that should have been what both of us said first. 80 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 1: So so thank you for that. 81 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 2: Absolutely. 82 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 1: And I'm and I'm thinking of you, and I'm and 83 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 1: I'm thinking of of all of our co workers, and 84 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 1: I'm thinking of everybody who's listening to us on AM 85 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 1: five seventy right now in southern California. Just awful. 86 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, And listen, it's awful, it's anohing. We can we 87 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:30,839 Speaker 2: could just you know, with that said, we could try 88 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 2: to entertain you and maybe you got your headphones on. 89 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 2: You're sitting somewhere in the gym or an evacuation center. 90 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:39,280 Speaker 2: You just want to get away from the reality of 91 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 2: the horrific reality of what's happening right now. So you know, 92 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:47,160 Speaker 2: for those who are seeking solids, just sit back and 93 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 2: relaxing and and we're going to carry you, carry you 94 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 2: through this thing for at least three hours. 95 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 1: Today, no doubt, no doubt. Yeah, it's uh, it's one 96 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 1: way or another. It seems like those tough times are 97 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 1: never very far away from everybody right now. But yes, 98 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 1: we hope that these NFL playoffs or anything that we 99 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 1: have fun with or to say tonight, gives you some 100 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:12,479 Speaker 1: sort of distraction that feels good in the moment. So 101 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:16,039 Speaker 1: here we are, here, we are getting ready for the 102 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:19,719 Speaker 1: football game that they put on Sunday night, because one 103 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 1: way or another, I think they feel like these are 104 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 1: some characters that people like watching, from a Jayden Daniels 105 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 1: to a Baker Mayfield to a Mike Evans. And on 106 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 1: another front, I think that we're probably expecting some fireworks tonight, 107 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 1: and I kind of said that earlier. I think you're 108 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:39,599 Speaker 1: gonna need to score thirty points to win this football game. 109 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 1: So here we go, man, buckle up, and this is 110 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 1: your squad. You've been talking about him since before the 111 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:48,280 Speaker 1: year started, So here's where we get to see how 112 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 1: ready they are for this particular year. 113 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:53,039 Speaker 2: Yeah, and look, we saw a little bit earlier. We 114 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 2: saw bow Nicks running to a bus. Saw. You know, 115 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 2: there's a reason why a rookie starting quarterbacks don't farewell 116 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 2: in their first playoff payers. I think three guys have 117 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 2: won their first two playoff games out of all the 118 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 2: rookie starting quarterbacks. It's tough to do, and the level 119 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 2: of maturity that you need to have, it's real. The 120 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 2: one thing as a rookie coming out of the preseason 121 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 2: and starting the regular season, I was like, Wow, this 122 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 2: is different, right, because there's stages and their levels to this. 123 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 2: So coming out of college and getting into the preseason, 124 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 2: you're like, Wow, this is fast, this is intense, and 125 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 2: then that level goes up again. That speed, the intensity 126 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 2: of the moment goes up again when you come from 127 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 2: preseason into regular season, right because now these count these 128 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 2: things matter. And once you get through the regular season 129 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 2: and then you go into the playoffs, as if it 130 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 2: was possible, this increases again because this is it. It's 131 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 2: a it's a winner, go home. There's a lot on 132 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 2: the line, and so the attention to detail is greater, 133 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 2: the speed is faster, and so as a rookie, a 134 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 2: young rookie, and I, you know, I went through all 135 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 2: those phases and started, you have to be able to 136 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 2: jump in because it's it's intense. And as as a quarterback, 137 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 2: as the leader of a team in an offense, that 138 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 2: could be a little bit daunting because everybody's looking at 139 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:37,680 Speaker 2: you to set the pace, set the tempo, don't make mistakes. 140 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:42,080 Speaker 2: And when we saw how difficult it was for for 141 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 2: both for both Knicks earlier. 142 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 1: Well, no doubt. I mean, if you really look at 143 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 1: a lot of the guys throughout the NFL who we love, 144 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 1: winning a playoff game, my god, it's hard. 145 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 2: Oh my goodness. 146 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 1: You're like, think of some of the really great quarterbacks 147 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:02,439 Speaker 1: and then think of how many of them where you 148 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 1: only need one hand to count how many times they've 149 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 1: won a playoff game. And I'm thinking right now, like 150 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 1: for example, and I should look this up, but I 151 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:18,320 Speaker 1: feel comfortable jumping into this if memory serves correct. A 152 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:23,200 Speaker 1: player like Matt Stafford, who's won a Super Bowl, I 153 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:25,960 Speaker 1: think you can use one hand and count as playoff wins. 154 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 1: We've got this MVP Bowl that's now set for next week. 155 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 1: That's what they're calling it. It's gonna be Lamar Jackson 156 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 1: versus Josh Allen. Guess what you could look at it 157 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 1: from the standpoint of these two dudes are just they 158 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 1: are restaurant quality, man like. For my money, these are 159 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 1: the two best players in the NFL, right and one 160 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 1: of them is going to go to the AFC title 161 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 1: game again. But guess what one of them is gonna 162 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:58,199 Speaker 1: do it again, which t is to say you're gonna 163 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 1: make the playoffs and not really go anywhere of significance. 164 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 1: It's so incredibly difficult as a quarterback to a mass 165 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 1: playoff victories. I think we could have that conversation on 166 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 1: an in depth level about both of these guys that 167 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 1: we're gonna watch tonight and what it means for their 168 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 1: careers going forward. 169 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 2: And what you realize is things have to go right. 170 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 2: Everything has to go right. You cannot make mistakes. We 171 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 2: just watched Jordan Love and the Green Bay Packers. Just 172 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:31,320 Speaker 2: from the beginning of the game, they weren't ready to 173 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 2: play opening kickoff, you fumble, you give up points, and 174 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 2: then you turn the ball over two more times after that. 175 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 2: That means you're not ready to play dropping passes like 176 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 2: it's you have to be locked in and buttoned up. 177 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 2: It's very difficult to lose the turnover battle and win 178 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:52,079 Speaker 2: a game in the regular season, let alone the playoffs. 179 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:55,560 Speaker 2: If you give a playoff team that many more possessions, 180 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:58,560 Speaker 2: and that's what a turnover is for those who are 181 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:03,839 Speaker 2: not quite sure why you're giving the team extra possessions. 182 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 2: So I guess, and I don't have the numbers to 183 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 2: back this up, but I would say on average, a 184 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 2: team in any quarter would get two to maybe three 185 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:17,960 Speaker 2: possessions in any quarter. If you can push that up 186 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:21,440 Speaker 2: to five possessions a quarter, your chances of winning that 187 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 2: quarter and that have in that game grow immensely. That's 188 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 2: what it's about. It's about you possessing the ball longer 189 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 2: than the other team, and if you can force the 190 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 2: turnover that gives you an unscheduled possession, that's what it's 191 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 2: all about. And if you're careless with the ball, it's 192 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 2: hard to get those possessions back. 193 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 1: Who do you like in this game tonight? 194 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 2: I like Washington. I like Washington in this game because 195 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 2: I believe that the Jaden Daniels is is is young 196 00:11:57,080 --> 00:12:02,680 Speaker 2: enough to not understand just what this is. Right when 197 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:07,440 Speaker 2: we when I watched Bo Nicks hit Buffalo in the 198 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:14,080 Speaker 2: mouth from the beginning, yeah, first job, it was like, oh, okay, 199 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 2: so this this is that that ignorance right like, this 200 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 2: is that I'm just going out here and I'm slinging 201 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 2: this thing now. Buffalo batten down. I was some yeah, 202 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 2: some shaky you know, you know, play calling and stuff 203 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 2: like that. But you know, shout out to Buffalo. They are, 204 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:31,679 Speaker 2: you know, one of the top teams uh in AFC. 205 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:36,559 Speaker 2: But if you can stay on that level of trajectory. 206 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:38,959 Speaker 2: The thing I love about Jason Daniels is he can 207 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 2: just go when things break down, which they will. We 208 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 2: saw Lamar Jackson do it a bunch yesterday. I Mean, 209 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 2: they had no answer for his ability to extend plays 210 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:52,439 Speaker 2: with his feet, and he came out with the notion of, oh, 211 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 2: I'm not You're not gonna catch me sitting in the pocket, 212 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 2: right They had a bunch of of of call to 213 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 2: quarterback runs just to set the tempo to loosen the 214 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 2: defense up, and he literally dismantled them the Steelers after that. 215 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 2: So I would think Jayden Daniels would have they would 216 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 2: have that sort of approach to him. You have to 217 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 2: give the defense something else to worry about. If you 218 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 2: can slow down the rush with your ability to scramble, 219 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:19,959 Speaker 2: then that means you get time in the pocket to 220 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:21,079 Speaker 2: throw the ball down the field. 221 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:23,200 Speaker 1: I can't wait to see this one. We haven't seen 222 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 1: a one score game yet. Do you think this is it? 223 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 2: I want to say yes, just in terms of a 224 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:32,320 Speaker 2: fan and enjoying the game. 225 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 1: But probably all double digits. Oh really, you like Washington 226 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:36,559 Speaker 1: by double digits? 227 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 2: I do? I do. Now, Look, and I don't want 228 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 2: to take anything away from Baker, but go ahead, we'll 229 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 2: talk about it on the other one. 230 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:45,319 Speaker 1: We'll talk about it. Yeah, because this thing's about to 231 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 1: get started. We set the table with the Steelers. We 232 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 1: want to talk out out as well. We will. All 233 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 1: of it is about to unfold here tonight, so stay 234 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 1: with us. We're broadcasting live from the tire rack dot 235 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:59,079 Speaker 1: Com Studios. 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Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio 244 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 3: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to 245 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 3: listen live. 246 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 1: We're expecting some fireworks and the opening drive did not 247 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 1: take me away from that opinion. Bucks will have an 248 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 1: interesting call here. Okay, they're going to decline a penalty 249 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 1: on a made field goal, so field goals good would 250 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 1: have set up fourth. In real short they could have 251 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 1: gone for it. But the Bucks probably have been listening 252 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 1: to E from Salam on the radio the last few 253 00:14:57,920 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 1: weeks and they're like, no, no, no, he told me that 254 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 1: fil goes cool. 255 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 2: Dog. 256 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 1: Let's take that three h three nothing Bucks fifty yard 257 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 1: field goal by mcglofflin on the opening drive. As we 258 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 1: come to you live tie reck dot Com studios. Any 259 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:13,239 Speaker 1: reactions to that opening drive. 260 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 2: No, I thought it was I thought it was good. 261 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 2: You know, nerves out there, drop past his you know, 262 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 2: stuff like that. But it's this is playoff football, man, 263 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 2: It's exciting. It's exciting. What I was, what I was 264 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 2: saying before break, Yeah, yep was. You know, Baker has 265 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 2: reinvented himself. But with someone like Baker, and this is 266 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 2: a you know, this could be a bad or a 267 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 2: good thing. Baker is always trying to prove himself. He 268 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 2: has a chip on the shoulder. We get it, and 269 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 2: so you force a lot when you do that. And 270 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 2: I would I would hope he wouldn't put the ball 271 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 2: in harm's away trying to do too much. So that's 272 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 2: my only hesitation there with Tampa Bay. 273 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 1: I get it. And I got a different question about 274 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield for you, and it's this. You said, he's 275 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 1: reinvented himself. There's no arguing whether or not Baker Mayfield 276 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 1: is a good player. He threw for forty five hundred yards, 277 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 1: forty one touchdown throws, sixteen interceptions. A little hot, that's hot. 278 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 1: That's a lot. 279 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 4: And that's that's the thing. And that's I think that's 280 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 4: your point. That's your point. But Baker's a good player. 281 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 4: He's in that interesting spot. 282 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 1: He sort of sits now where I think Sam Darnold 283 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 1: now sits in terms of free agency, depending on what 284 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 1: Sam does tomorrow night and where that goes next. He's 285 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 1: coming off of a game that probably didn't help his 286 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 1: finances or what have you. But they're sort of in 287 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 1: that spot where you're like, ugh, I'm not sure what 288 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 1: to do with this guy, because it's like this is 289 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:06,640 Speaker 1: a starter, he's a starter, but are we going franchise 290 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 1: quarterback long term? You hesitate to do something like that, 291 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 1: and I guess the way I would ask it to 292 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:16,159 Speaker 1: a franchise, and a lot of franchises end up in 293 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:20,440 Speaker 1: this spot is like, well, what are you trying to do? 294 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:26,639 Speaker 1: Because Baker's reinvented himself. He's good, but he's won a 295 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 1: division now two years in a row. That requires you 296 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:33,119 Speaker 1: to not win very many football games. It requires you 297 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 1: to not beat very many good teams, And so are 298 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 1: you just trying to win that and kind of be 299 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 1: in the playoffs and then be food for somebody else, 300 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:49,200 Speaker 1: or are you are you trying for the ultimate prize? 301 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:52,959 Speaker 1: And if you are, trying for the ultimate prize. Is 302 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 1: that who you want as your quarterback? 303 00:17:57,200 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 2: Well, the answer to that is what your options? 304 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 1: Sure? 305 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 2: Right, Like it's you know, Baker and Tampa fits. They 306 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 2: play off his energy. He and Mike Evans have tremendous chemistry. 307 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:15,920 Speaker 2: You know you're gonna get someone who's going to show 308 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:17,879 Speaker 2: up and who's going to play no matter what the 309 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:22,919 Speaker 2: circumstances are. I think that's important. I think Baker brings 310 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:28,399 Speaker 2: an element of toughness. Like I said, it's hard to 311 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:31,879 Speaker 2: be a you know, first round draft pick and have 312 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 2: a chip on your shoulder. First pick draft and have 313 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 2: a pick on the shoulder, But that's Baker. Anytime you 314 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 2: come out of Cleveland and survive, you'll have a chip 315 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:46,440 Speaker 2: on your shoulder. So I think, especially in that division, 316 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:49,880 Speaker 2: like you were saying, I think Baker fits. I think 317 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:56,440 Speaker 2: Baker is that you know, toughness and that grit that 318 00:18:56,480 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 2: you need. Can he win all of it? I don't know. 319 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:06,400 Speaker 2: I don't think your roster itself is stacked to win 320 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:09,399 Speaker 2: all of it, you know. And that's more, that's not 321 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 2: some that's not a Baker issue, that's just you know, 322 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:17,359 Speaker 2: any one more edge rusher Holoding Nada is A is 323 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:19,679 Speaker 2: a heck of we we already know what that is. 324 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:25,439 Speaker 2: I mean, vidave excuse me, vi Vidavea looks like he 325 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 2: ate holoding Nada. He is a tremendous, tremendous defensive piece. 326 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:38,879 Speaker 2: But you do need another ed rusher. You do need 327 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 2: another weapon outside in terms of offensively. So there's some 328 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 2: some things that you can do to to build out 329 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 2: this team. But Baker at quarterback, I mean that works. 330 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 2: That that that does work. 331 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:53,439 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm with you. 332 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 2: Beautiful pass and catch by McLaurin from goodness. 333 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 1: Gracious, it was real good. That was real good because 334 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 1: that was also under hot pressure on third down. Jayden Daniels, 335 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:08,640 Speaker 1: as you and I have been saying all year, one 336 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:13,120 Speaker 1: thing I've always loved about him. He just looks calm. 337 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 1: And if that's his first playoff throw, I know he 338 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 1: threw one out of bounds on first down whatever, like 339 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:24,680 Speaker 1: that's his first real like downfield throw in playoff action 340 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:25,399 Speaker 1: of his career. 341 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 2: And oh boy, dude, is that dude is calm? 342 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 1: Brother and so high red zone already for Washington first 343 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 1: down and they're at the they're just inside the Tampa 344 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 1: Bay thirty and again trailing three to nothing, but we're 345 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:44,879 Speaker 1: gonna keep you up to date all over this game. 346 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 1: I'm with you, and I actually think we've got to 347 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:53,359 Speaker 1: stop doing this to quarterbacks because there are only two, three, 348 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 1: maybe four that really even deserved this conversation. And here's 349 00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 1: what I mean by it. We keep telling quarterbacks that 350 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:05,360 Speaker 1: if they don't have all of the pieces that they 351 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 1: need around them, well then they just need a cape 352 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 1: right here, put your cape on and be amazing and 353 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 1: just gather everybody on your shoulders and take them to 354 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 1: a super Bowl. That does not work that way. Now, 355 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 1: these two guys who are going to play next week 356 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:27,880 Speaker 1: in Buffalo, Okay, that's sure, yea, then it works that way. 357 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 1: But you don't get one of those. Your team doesn't 358 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:35,919 Speaker 1: get one of those. They might like once in your life, 359 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:40,439 Speaker 1: you might get, but there's like, yes, you do not 360 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:44,640 Speaker 1: need two hands of the guys. Yeah, And people would 361 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:47,640 Speaker 1: add those two and Mahomes and Burrow, and even that 362 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:53,880 Speaker 1: is possibly pushing it because Joe Burrow didn't even make 363 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 1: the playoffs, and and Patrick Mahomes is Patrick Mahomes and 364 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 1: he's won all these two but he's also like not 365 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 1: even in the top fifteen in QBR this year, he's 366 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:07,120 Speaker 1: got all he's got a great defense and blah blah blah. 367 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:09,639 Speaker 1: So we can have that conversation, but I'm more talking 368 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 1: about all the other dudes where it's like, we've got 369 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:16,920 Speaker 1: to find a new way to talk about what counts 370 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:20,160 Speaker 1: as good in terms of NFL quarterbacking. 371 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:28,120 Speaker 2: Yeah it, you know, there's good and great, like other 372 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 2: shows are good, but the thing that makes us great, 373 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:39,160 Speaker 2: especially on Sundays from five to eight, is the man, 374 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 2: the myth, the legend, Steve the Great, the Sega. 375 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:47,439 Speaker 5: Hello, gentlemen and boy, this is a good football weekend, 376 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 5: isn't it? The third of three games for a playoff 377 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 5: Sunday Super Wildcard weekend? Can we still call it that? 378 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 5: Tampa Bay is hosting and leading Washington three to nothing 379 00:22:56,880 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 5: mid first quarter, fifty yard field goal for the off 380 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:04,159 Speaker 5: the opening drive and just now on a fourth and 381 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 5: two incomplete from Jade and Daniels, so a turnover on 382 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:10,200 Speaker 5: downs and still three nothing for the Bucks, a team 383 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:13,399 Speaker 5: that's won six of seven. Yes, in that stretch, they 384 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 5: beat Carolina twice, and the Giants and the Raiders and 385 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 5: the Saints. They did beat the Chargers impressively in La 386 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 5: with a dominant second half, but the wins a win. 387 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 5: They're ten and seven and they're hosting as a division champ, 388 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:27,400 Speaker 5: a commander's team that's won five in a row going 389 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 5: into this one, and I mentioned a half hour ago, 390 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 5: Washington lost its season opener there at Tampa Bay thirty 391 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:36,400 Speaker 5: seven to twenty. Baker Mayfield had four touchdown. 392 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 2: Passes in that one. 393 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,359 Speaker 5: As for the game on Fox TV at Philadelphia, the 394 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 5: Eagles weren't superb, but they certainly were better than Green 395 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:46,359 Speaker 5: Bay twenty two to ten is the final. Jalen Hurts, 396 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 5: return from the concussion protocol, had two touchdown passes one 397 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 5: hundred and thirty one yards through the air. Saquon Barkley 398 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 5: twenty five carries one hundred and nineteen yards. Just not 399 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:58,879 Speaker 5: a good day for the Packers, starting with fumbling the 400 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:03,119 Speaker 5: opening kickoff and Jordan Love eventually through three interceptions. The 401 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 5: Pack out eleven and seven the final record, and they 402 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 5: started at Buffalo with the early touchdown by Denver, the 403 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 5: last team into the postseason in the AFC. The seven 404 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 5: Seeds did not score again lost thirty one to seven 405 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 5: at Buffalo, so the Bills, still undefeated at home, get 406 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:24,160 Speaker 5: to host Baltimore in that quarterback matchup next weekend. Buffalo 407 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 5: the two seed in the AFC. They won the AFC 408 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 5: East for a fifth straight season. In this game, James 409 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:32,440 Speaker 5: Cook one hundred and twenty yards rushing and a touchdown. 410 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 5: Among the NBA oh one other note that it's official 411 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:38,160 Speaker 5: from the team, the Patriots hired Mike Rabel as head 412 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:41,880 Speaker 5: coach to the NBA. Now it is just now a 413 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:45,200 Speaker 5: final with the Boston Celtics winning up by point over 414 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:48,920 Speaker 5: the Pelicans. Jason Tatum with thirty eight points. Pacers won 415 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:52,200 Speaker 5: at Cleveland one o eight ninety three. The Bulls got 416 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 5: thirty six points from Zach Lavine, but lost at home 417 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 5: to the Sacramento Kings one twenty four to one to nineteen. 418 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 5: Nicks over the Bucks won four to one six Jalen 419 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 5: Brunson with forty four points. Among the college basketball games, 420 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 5: fifteenth ranked Oregon won eighty two eighty one at Penn State. 421 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:14,160 Speaker 5: And guys, thanks for mentioning the wildfires in southern California 422 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:16,399 Speaker 5: to start the show. It just is amazing to me 423 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:20,159 Speaker 5: still to say out loud, there was a wildfire on 424 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:24,640 Speaker 5: Sunset Boulevard. For those who are aware at all of 425 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 5: Los Angeles. This is, to say the least, a main 426 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:30,960 Speaker 5: thoroughfare that goes past UCLA and all the way to 427 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 5: the ocean, to the Sunset. You know, I'll bring up 428 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 5: the fact that since we have Arnie Spaniard coming on 429 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 5: next after us every Sunday night, if we had a 430 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:40,920 Speaker 5: dollar for every time he has mentioned his beloved high 431 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 5: school over the years, and yet it was Spaniard's alma mater, 432 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 5: Palisades High School that he has so often talked about 433 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:51,159 Speaker 5: that burned. He went there, Steve Kerr, Janie Busts, many others. 434 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 5: That school located off Sunset Boulevard, very near the ocean, 435 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:56,920 Speaker 5: so as you know, on the west side of the 436 00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 5: four or five Freeway, so a few miles west of UCLA. 437 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 5: That high school's football field and baseball field are apparently 438 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 5: still there, along with some buildings. Even closer to the 439 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 5: high school is Riviera Country Club, where the PGA holds 440 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 5: a tournament every February, so it's due to be there 441 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:14,159 Speaker 5: in a month. As far as total buildings lost, I 442 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:16,720 Speaker 5: know as of last night this includes homes in LA 443 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 5: at least five thousand structures had been destroyed so far 444 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 5: this week, with a minimum of sixteen deaths as. 445 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:27,639 Speaker 2: Well, not quite over. I love the fact that the NFL. 446 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:30,400 Speaker 5: Starting every game is mentioning and of course the Rams 447 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:33,679 Speaker 5: are not home to finish up Wildcard weekend tomorrow. The 448 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 5: Rams with a quote home game in Arizona tomorrow night 449 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:37,920 Speaker 5: against the Vikings. 450 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 1: Back to you, Thank you, Steve. Yeah, appreciate it as 451 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 1: always really good stuff live ti rack dot com Studios. 452 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 1: There's more to say on that with the Rams and 453 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 1: Viking situation, and we will. But just because we want 454 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:52,160 Speaker 1: to be top of mind with this game that we're 455 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 1: watching between Tampa and Washington, would you like to go 456 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:56,880 Speaker 1: ahead and say it or what do you want? 457 00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 2: The dumbest thing ever. It's incredible, you're in the dy 458 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 2: red zone. 459 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 1: It's incredible. 460 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 2: And a three point game on the road with the 461 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,439 Speaker 2: rookie quarterback. You go first quarter and two in the 462 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 2: first quarter and you and you gotta take the points. Man, 463 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 2: Like this whole thing. Man is stressing me out. It's 464 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:21,439 Speaker 2: bothering me because this is not how you win football games. 465 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,879 Speaker 2: Someone ran down and said, well, the analytics say go 466 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:31,680 Speaker 2: for it. Why did you type in rookie quarterback, first 467 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:34,960 Speaker 2: playoff game on the road on the road against a 468 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 2: team that beats you here in this stadium. Did any 469 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 2: of that come up? So instead of squaring the game 470 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 2: back at three, you just give the ball back to 471 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 2: the offense of the opposing team and now they can 472 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:58,440 Speaker 2: go up two scores. To me, that that doesn't make 473 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:00,200 Speaker 2: sense at all. 474 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 1: I'm with you. I'm with you like I just it's 475 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:06,800 Speaker 1: fourth down, Bravado and. 476 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,720 Speaker 2: Dan Quinn, you're a defensive coach, Come on, bre It. 477 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:14,639 Speaker 1: Is overwhelming the NFL right now. You and I sat 478 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,879 Speaker 1: here and watched the Lions play the Vikings last week 479 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,919 Speaker 1: and in a game that score got so out of 480 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:24,480 Speaker 1: control and a performance by Jamier Gibbs that was so wonderful. 481 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,720 Speaker 1: What got lost in all of this was how different 482 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 1: that game could have been based on two things. A. 483 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:34,359 Speaker 1: Could Sam Darnold throw an accurate pass for once? And 484 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:39,920 Speaker 1: B what the hell were the Vikings doing? They Dan 485 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 1: campbelled the game against Dan Campbell. 486 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 2: Against Dan Campbell, It's hard to help Dan Campbell. 487 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 1: Dan Campbell, well, not anymore because apparently what Dan Campbell 488 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 1: has is contagious and the rest of the league done 489 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 1: caught it. Because here we are. You're absolutely right, this 490 00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 1: was not fourth and inches and we got it. Stop 491 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:02,960 Speaker 1: with all of the like to me, do you want 492 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 1: to know what I actually think drives some of this? 493 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 1: People will will call out analytics, but do you know 494 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 1: what I think it also? Is it from? I really do? 495 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 1: I think it's social media? I really do. 496 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 2: Can't be please don't it had No. 497 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 1: It is because that's where the echo chamber lives. 498 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 2: Brin it down. 499 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 1: And I'm telling you, man, as much as we sit 500 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:27,479 Speaker 1: here and say, oh, fans don't have a voice, dude, 501 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 1: every fan in the stands with a phone or whatever, 502 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 1: you're like this wimpy, little wimpy wimp if you don't 503 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 1: go forward on fourth down all the time. I, my friend, 504 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 1: am a wimp. Me too. 505 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:46,160 Speaker 2: What I'm going to do is collect these points. That's 506 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 2: what I'm gonna do, and then we're gonna see how 507 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 2: this thing shakes out at the end. 508 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 1: Are in the fourth Put them in your pocket. Put 509 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 1: them in your pocket. That's three. You got three in 510 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 1: your pocket right now, which remains how many points they're 511 00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 1: down in the game the road. I don't get it. 512 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 2: He's a rookie. He threw a wonderful pass where I 513 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 2: talked about the psychological effects of this last week. When 514 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 2: you drive the ball down the field into scoring position 515 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 2: and you don't get points. Psychologically, it affects your offense, 516 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 2: especially when you have a young quarterback. Psychologically, it affects 517 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 2: you because you've done all this work to get there, 518 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 2: you through the perfect pass, you've gained all of these 519 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 2: are sixty sixty yards to come away with nothing. It 520 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 2: it affects you your mentality and you try to push 521 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 2: it off, like, all right, we're gonna get him next time. No, no, no, 522 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:49,880 Speaker 2: we had him this time. So you start to lose 523 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 2: a little faith. Okay, we're going forward again. Like it 524 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 2: plays tricks on you, man, And that's the mental aspect 525 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 2: of the game that people don't know. And it puts 526 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,800 Speaker 2: more pressure on your young quarter feeling like, oh, I 527 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 2: gotta make this play right, Like you don't want to 528 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 2: see your rookie quarterback throw a pick or fumble the 529 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 2: ball on fourth and two in scoring position. Wow, you know, 530 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:14,760 Speaker 2: why would you put him in that situation? 531 00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 1: No, you just demonetize that beautiful throw that he hit Terry. 532 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 2: McLaurin with might as well have not even done it. 533 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 1: You demonetized it. Beautiful throw, third down, first, lengthy pass, 534 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:30,080 Speaker 1: of his playoff NFL career, throws a dot and you 535 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:36,680 Speaker 1: turned it into a goose for nothing. Stupid. All right, 536 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:41,120 Speaker 1: we'll keep going on this. Glad you're with us tonight. 537 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 1: We do want to get back to the Steelers, but 538 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 1: in particular one individual Steeler that we need to talk about, 539 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 1: and we will do that coming up next with I 540 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 1: from Slama, Mark Wallert Fox Sports Radio. 541 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:57,080 Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 542 00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 3: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Fox sports 543 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:04,480 Speaker 3: Radio dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR 544 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 3: to listen live. 545 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:11,200 Speaker 1: Tyrog dot com studios. Washington's moving the ball better than 546 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 1: Tampa is, but they're losing. 547 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 2: They look good, they look good. 548 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:23,560 Speaker 1: They do, Yeah, they did. Jaden Daniels is you know 549 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:28,920 Speaker 1: who he looks like. He looks like Jaden Daniels. That 550 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:32,440 Speaker 1: man is going to stick. I think that has been 551 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 1: established now. I'm not sure if it's true for one 552 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:40,720 Speaker 1: of his NFL brethren, though. You got to listen to 553 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 1: this and we're gonna play it for you in just 554 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 1: a second, because I've decided that this dude, I can't 555 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 1: figure him out. I don't know what I don't know 556 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:54,680 Speaker 1: what to do with him, Do you know what to 557 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:58,960 Speaker 1: do with him? We're talking about George Pickens of the 558 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:03,120 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers. Take a listen to this exchange when he's 559 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:09,240 Speaker 1: asked about the offense during his time in Pittsburgh, where 560 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:12,080 Speaker 1: it's been and where it's heading. Where have you done 561 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 1: with this offense? 562 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 2: Kind? 563 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 1: For three years? 564 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:15,040 Speaker 3: Have you seen signs of growth? 565 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:16,960 Speaker 1: And how much more rasis can starting to grow? 566 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:17,960 Speaker 2: Offensive? Yeah? 567 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:21,720 Speaker 1: I've seen signs of growth for sure, from from past, 568 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,000 Speaker 1: you know, the first year I've been here. Just just 569 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:25,000 Speaker 1: way more growth for sure. 570 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:28,240 Speaker 3: Which does gonna make you optimistic going forward? 571 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:29,480 Speaker 1: Uh? 572 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:30,720 Speaker 4: Nah? 573 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:36,840 Speaker 1: Okay, First of all, First of all, it's kind of hilarious, 574 00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:40,160 Speaker 1: and if you didn't catch it, it was have you 575 00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 1: seen signs of growth since you've been here for the 576 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 1: three years? Oh? Absolutely, I've seen all kinds of growth? Absolutely? Okay, 577 00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:51,840 Speaker 1: So then does that make you more optimistic about the future? No? 578 00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:59,440 Speaker 1: All right, all right, My dude gets into sideline tantrums 579 00:33:59,480 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 1: every other. 580 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:04,000 Speaker 2: He pouts unsure about his hands. 581 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:08,160 Speaker 1: Unsure about his hands. That's right, Like, he is a 582 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:12,719 Speaker 1: very talented role player, but there's a butt in there. 583 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:18,319 Speaker 1: I just, dude, I don't know if I want that 584 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:21,040 Speaker 1: guy on my favorite team. You know what I mean? 585 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:23,200 Speaker 2: He has to go like Mike Tomlin, like they can 586 00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,120 Speaker 2: make the mistake like they've done with all the other 587 00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:28,120 Speaker 2: high profile receivers they've had, they have a history of 588 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:33,320 Speaker 2: doing this now, or they can just move on. Is 589 00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:39,920 Speaker 2: he talented? Absolutely? Is that talent consistent enough? Absolutely not. 590 00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:44,759 Speaker 2: Does it warrant signing him to a lucrative extension? You 591 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:49,880 Speaker 2: must be crazy? So look, hey man, you can go 592 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:55,319 Speaker 2: find other receivers. You can't. You can't do that. You 593 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:56,520 Speaker 2: can't do this again. 594 00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:02,000 Speaker 1: Well, now here's the thing. Just not a free agent. 595 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,640 Speaker 2: No, no, no, okay, he has two years, ter No, 596 00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:06,439 Speaker 2: he's got one one. 597 00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:09,879 Speaker 1: So what that means is that this makes it a 598 00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:14,279 Speaker 1: very very key off season. He is heading into the 599 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 1: same off season and I'm not trying to put him 600 00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:19,360 Speaker 1: in this same sentence, but he is heading into the 601 00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:22,480 Speaker 1: same off season as I'm on Ross Saint Brown was 602 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:26,520 Speaker 1: last year, as Justin Jefferson was last year, as Jamar 603 00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:31,239 Speaker 1: Chase will be this year. So those guys are on 604 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:34,279 Speaker 1: a different level and they would be dumb to even 605 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,120 Speaker 1: consider putting a helmet on their head until an extension 606 00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:41,120 Speaker 1: had been signed. Almana didn't. Justin didn't. Those teams took 607 00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:43,759 Speaker 1: care of him. Cincinnati will do the same for Jamar Chase. 608 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:52,600 Speaker 1: I have no doubt, but George, I'm with you. Fourth 609 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:55,480 Speaker 1: down again in field, goor they are. I mean, at 610 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:57,040 Speaker 1: least this time it's only fourth. 611 00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:58,640 Speaker 2: And one doesn't matter. Don't do it. 612 00:35:58,680 --> 00:35:59,719 Speaker 1: I know, I know. 613 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:05,040 Speaker 2: Oh god, this is awful. This is bad, dan Quinn. 614 00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,680 Speaker 2: Don't they get called time out. They're gonna call timeouts. 615 00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:11,960 Speaker 1: They can think about the dumbness and then probably come 616 00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:15,480 Speaker 1: back with with more Dumbo. We'll see. 617 00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:18,480 Speaker 2: If you were gonna if you were gonna go for it, 618 00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:25,440 Speaker 2: then why would you run a quarterback power? Why wouldn't 619 00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:28,680 Speaker 2: you just attack the line of scrimmage. The more you 620 00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:34,560 Speaker 2: run sideways, the less likely you are to gain a yard. 621 00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:38,840 Speaker 2: Just f yi. So if you were planning on doing 622 00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:42,480 Speaker 2: this on the last down, then you go up the middle, 623 00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:45,120 Speaker 2: you hand the ball up the middle. This is this 624 00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:50,440 Speaker 2: is bad. I okay he's doing coming out of the time. 625 00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:53,799 Speaker 2: I'm not watching. I got my eyes closed. You tell 626 00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:56,680 Speaker 2: me what happens. I will I will not do play 627 00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,799 Speaker 2: guys or closed, but I will let you know. 628 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:03,839 Speaker 1: And the play has been completed, how it will go, oh, oh, 629 00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:08,400 Speaker 1: it's close out. Oh the running back, I think he 630 00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:13,080 Speaker 1: got it. I think I think he got it. Oh 631 00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:15,279 Speaker 1: they just handed it off. Yeah he got it. 632 00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:18,360 Speaker 2: Are they going to score a touchdown on this drive? 633 00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:21,359 Speaker 1: They better? Yeah. They handed it to Austin Eckler up 634 00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:24,680 Speaker 1: the middle and he got it by a football. He 635 00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:28,320 Speaker 1: got it. I mean he got hit a yard behind 636 00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,200 Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage and he had enough in it 637 00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:33,560 Speaker 1: to push forward and fell down just over the yellow line. 638 00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:40,800 Speaker 2: First down, Washington, don't Danklin, don't make me regret regret 639 00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:44,080 Speaker 2: my pig. All right, get down Jayden. 640 00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,080 Speaker 1: Anyway. Yeah, we'll keep you up to date. 641 00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:51,240 Speaker 2: But you see what they're doing. They are doing exactly 642 00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:53,600 Speaker 2: what I said they would do in terms of running 643 00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:57,040 Speaker 2: him like Lamar Jackson. Right, they're going to make the 644 00:37:57,120 --> 00:38:00,120 Speaker 2: other They're going to make Tampa Bay's defense respect what 645 00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:05,120 Speaker 2: they're doing offensively and respect Jayden Daniels. They're gonna loosen 646 00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:11,680 Speaker 2: up that defense and and have now you the Russian 647 00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:15,400 Speaker 2: is gonna loosen up the safeties of linebackers. All of 648 00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:17,880 Speaker 2: this can play in if they do this the right way, 649 00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:18,480 Speaker 2: they can play. 650 00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:21,759 Speaker 1: Yeahage, you get to the playoffs by the way, And 651 00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,920 Speaker 1: this is if any of you do, like any of 652 00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:28,040 Speaker 1: that DFS stuff that's out there, if you do you know, 653 00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:31,759 Speaker 1: prize picks and underdogs and all that, Like, if you 654 00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:35,279 Speaker 1: do this, this is just from me to you. This 655 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:37,239 Speaker 1: is just my opinion. I could be wrong, and it's 656 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:39,640 Speaker 1: nothing that works one hundred percent of the time. But 657 00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:45,360 Speaker 1: the point you're making is that they take the talent 658 00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:48,959 Speaker 1: that each player does really well and you just take 659 00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,799 Speaker 1: the training wheels off completely, Like you're like, we're not 660 00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:56,400 Speaker 1: scared of injury anymore. It's the playoffs. So in other words, 661 00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:59,000 Speaker 1: you saw it with like you're saying you saw Lamar 662 00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:01,360 Speaker 1: last night, I think you're seeing it with Jayden tonight 663 00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:05,120 Speaker 1: in the regular season when they try to exercise a 664 00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:09,840 Speaker 1: little caution with running those guys. It's like, well, Matt anymore, 665 00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:16,400 Speaker 1: not not come playoff time. Yeah, it's something something that 666 00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:18,960 Speaker 1: you can something you can you know, do some things. 667 00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:22,600 Speaker 2: With Jamie got a nice little gash in his face. 668 00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:27,480 Speaker 1: Yes he does. Yeah, time out on the field, So anyway. 669 00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:33,520 Speaker 2: Go ahead, Number one, protect him right, protect him his 670 00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:38,680 Speaker 2: first time out, put him in good situations. Obviously he's talented. 671 00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:43,520 Speaker 2: You have to protect him as a coach. You have 672 00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:49,440 Speaker 2: to now be the leader, right, This is not you know, 673 00:39:49,960 --> 00:40:01,600 Speaker 2: a seasoned Alan or mahomes are Jackson? Yeah, protect him? 674 00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:05,760 Speaker 1: Yep, yep. All right, we continue this conversation. We'll continue 675 00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:09,880 Speaker 1: the pickings conversation coming up next on Fox Sports Radio. 676 00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:15,799 Speaker 1: All right, your commanders have the lead now seven to three. 677 00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:19,400 Speaker 1: Is they made good on that fourth down conversion? So 678 00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:24,400 Speaker 1: maybe one point for both sides so far in this debate. 679 00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:29,280 Speaker 1: We're broadcasting live from the tireck dot com studios. Tyreck 680 00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:31,520 Speaker 1: dot com will help you get there an unmatted selection, 681 00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:35,399 Speaker 1: fast free shipping, free road hazard protection, and over ten 682 00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:39,439 Speaker 1: thousand recommended installers. Tyrerack dot com the way tire buying 683 00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:42,160 Speaker 1: should be. Yeah, Like if Dan Quinn were sitting here 684 00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:44,000 Speaker 1: right now, would he be like, I told you so. 685 00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:47,759 Speaker 2: No, No, you can't play that game in the playoffs. 686 00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:51,960 Speaker 2: There's a dangerous game to play in the playoffs. 687 00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:55,000 Speaker 1: Yep, I hear you, I hear you. So. Washington turned 688 00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:57,040 Speaker 1: down a field goal to go for it on fourth 689 00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:59,680 Speaker 1: on the first drive, got nothing, turned down the field 690 00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:01,840 Speaker 1: goal to go forward on the second drive, ended up 691 00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:04,560 Speaker 1: getting seven. So here we are Bucks with the ball 692 00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:09,719 Speaker 1: commander's leading seven to three. But that whole sort of 693 00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:13,840 Speaker 1: interlude was it interrupted a conversation that we were having 694 00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:18,800 Speaker 1: with regard to George Pickens, who yesterday after the game 695 00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:22,000 Speaker 1: was asked if he saw growth in the Steelers offense. 696 00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:24,200 Speaker 1: He said yes. Then he was asked does that make 697 00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:28,080 Speaker 1: him optimistic for the future. He said, uh, nah, it doesn't. 698 00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:31,080 Speaker 1: And George does this. George says a lot of stuff 699 00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:33,640 Speaker 1: in the locker room. He's got a lot going on 700 00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:37,040 Speaker 1: on the sidelines. He seems to need a lot of 701 00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:41,120 Speaker 1: pick me up conversations. So this is where I would 702 00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:45,280 Speaker 1: bet this is going this offseason. I bet that George 703 00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:48,200 Speaker 1: is going to ask for an extension. If the Steelers 704 00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:51,520 Speaker 1: are smart, it's my opinion they won't give it to him. 705 00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:56,960 Speaker 1: And we're going to look at a frustrating holdout and 706 00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:00,200 Speaker 1: a frustrating off season as the Steelers settle into at 707 00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:02,280 Speaker 1: another early playoff exit. 708 00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:19,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. If if they find themselves contemplating paying this young 709 00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:22,600 Speaker 2: man the type of money he I guess he would want, 710 00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:30,920 Speaker 2: this is this is gonna be a disaster. He just 711 00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:36,960 Speaker 2: hasn't shown the growth and the maturity to warrant that 712 00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:40,040 Speaker 2: level of money. What do you do when you reward 713 00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:46,400 Speaker 2: bad behavior with that type of contract. I mean, you 714 00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:50,960 Speaker 2: have the blueprint, You've seen it happen yep. So to 715 00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:56,560 Speaker 2: step into it and do that again, then you get 716 00:42:56,560 --> 00:43:03,000 Speaker 2: what you get. George Picking, Uh, Picking was the thirty 717 00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:11,320 Speaker 2: second receiver and receiving yards out of the starting receivers 718 00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:22,280 Speaker 2: at nine hundred yards. And so I just attitude, inconsistency, 719 00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:26,160 Speaker 2: all those are red flags. We're dating, We're about to 720 00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:31,600 Speaker 2: get engaged. That's what your second contract is. Your second 721 00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:36,520 Speaker 2: contract is a marriage, right, your second contract is a matter. 722 00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:39,759 Speaker 2: We're dating right now in your first contract. Now I'm 723 00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:44,080 Speaker 2: going to commit to you. In your second contract, we're 724 00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:50,160 Speaker 2: going to be married. Is that what you want? Do 725 00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:51,719 Speaker 2: you want that type of marriage? You want to come 726 00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:54,359 Speaker 2: home to that every day every Sunday after the game, 727 00:43:54,480 --> 00:44:00,320 Speaker 2: or Monday or Tuesday or sometimes Wednesday, now Thursday, Saturday. 728 00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:09,160 Speaker 1: Ocasionally yeah, yeah, right, No, I don't know the answer 729 00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:13,439 Speaker 1: is no, I don't I want I want no part 730 00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:16,520 Speaker 1: of it, and I don't want no, I don't want 731 00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:20,680 Speaker 1: to be a receiverist. But there's too many of these 732 00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:25,560 Speaker 1: guys who are waving at you around the league, and listen, 733 00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:31,040 Speaker 1: I'm fine with it. If you really show you for 734 00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:34,600 Speaker 1: that guy. Like I even thought last offseason was sort 735 00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:40,520 Speaker 1: of annoying from Jamar Chase because he sat out and 736 00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:42,759 Speaker 1: then he showed up, and it was almost as if 737 00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:46,800 Speaker 1: he was like sending a pre message, because dude, it's 738 00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:51,200 Speaker 1: not even extension time yet. He's not there yet, he's 739 00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:54,520 Speaker 1: not going into the final year of his deal. But 740 00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:57,200 Speaker 1: it was like he wanted to send a warning shot. 741 00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:00,560 Speaker 1: And I know he's all that. There are plenty of 742 00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:02,960 Speaker 1: dbs who would tell you that's the hardest cover in 743 00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:05,400 Speaker 1: the whole NFL, and his numbers are through the roof, 744 00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:08,360 Speaker 1: and he and Joe Burrow are a problem, and this, 745 00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:12,240 Speaker 1: that and the other. That's all true. What's also true 746 00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:17,640 Speaker 1: is that he showed out. His quarterback showed out, and 747 00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:19,600 Speaker 1: where are they this weekend. 748 00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:23,879 Speaker 2: Home hanging out? 749 00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:26,919 Speaker 1: This is It's my point, it's been your point. We've 750 00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:31,120 Speaker 1: been saying it all year. If this year did not 751 00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:35,840 Speaker 1: pop the receiver bubble, I don't know what will, because 752 00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:38,440 Speaker 1: there's too much evidence that they are not the lynch 753 00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:42,520 Speaker 1: pinned to winning at the highest of levels number one, 754 00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:46,840 Speaker 1: and there's too many of them who, quite frankly, don't 755 00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:49,080 Speaker 1: act like your friendly neighborhood running back. 756 00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:51,200 Speaker 2: So let me give you a breakdown out of the 757 00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:52,240 Speaker 2: top ten receivers. 758 00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:53,480 Speaker 1: Let's go, let's go. 759 00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:58,520 Speaker 2: Jamar Chase number one, not in the playoffs. Number three. 760 00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:00,160 Speaker 1: B. 761 00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:04,799 Speaker 2: Thompson, I like him from Jacksonville. Ryan Thomas is fantastic, Yep, 762 00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:09,520 Speaker 2: love it. Not in the playoffs. Number four Drake London 763 00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:14,360 Speaker 2: not in the playoffs. Number six Dreed Judy not in 764 00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:17,440 Speaker 2: the playoffs. Number seven Molikue Neighbors not in the playoffs. 765 00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:21,719 Speaker 2: Number eight Ceedee Lamb not in the playoffs. Tied for 766 00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:24,719 Speaker 2: number eight Brock Borrowers tight end, not in the playoffs. 767 00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:33,640 Speaker 2: I mean, what are we doing here? What's going on? 768 00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:41,600 Speaker 2: That in the top ten? That's one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, 769 00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:46,120 Speaker 2: that's it's seven eight. You're right, that's eight of the 770 00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:52,399 Speaker 2: top ten receivers in the NFL not in the playoffs. 771 00:46:53,000 --> 00:47:00,759 Speaker 2: If that doesn't speak volumes, then your deaf. That's it. 772 00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:03,560 Speaker 2: That's it. 773 00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:07,680 Speaker 1: The funny thing is is you could have kept going 774 00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:09,799 Speaker 1: and made it a top fifteen. I could have the 775 00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:13,560 Speaker 1: next Yeah, Trey McBride, Jackson Smith and Jig But George Kittle, 776 00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:17,160 Speaker 1: Garrett Wilson not in the playoffs. Not in the playoffs, 777 00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:21,680 Speaker 1: not in the playoffs, and Jack's notes, not in the playoffs. 778 00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:25,839 Speaker 2: Flip side, flip side of that, flip side of that rushing. 779 00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:27,600 Speaker 1: Exactly. 780 00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:32,360 Speaker 2: Top ten. Let's see how many are not in the playoffs. 781 00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:36,960 Speaker 2: Number four, number three, b John Robinson not in the playoffs, 782 00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:48,240 Speaker 2: Number four, Taylor, number eight, Jonathan Taylor, yep, Jonathan Taylor, 783 00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:50,040 Speaker 2: Chooper Hubbard, number eight. 784 00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:55,920 Speaker 1: That's it, that's it, sa Kwon Derrick, Henry Jamir Gibbs, 785 00:47:56,040 --> 00:48:03,640 Speaker 1: Josh Jacobs, Kyron Williams, Aaron Jones, Bucky I like Bucky 786 00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:06,840 Speaker 1: Irving Man. I like Bucky is a good player. Yeah, 787 00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:11,520 Speaker 1: but by the way, like that's a great point. But 788 00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:14,120 Speaker 1: I'll take it a step further. Of those top ten 789 00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:18,000 Speaker 1: running backs that you just named, will you go ahead, 790 00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:22,200 Speaker 1: name the one, any of them, Just pick one. Give 791 00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:24,600 Speaker 1: me the one who's reading books. 792 00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:25,840 Speaker 2: On the sideline, Oh my god. 793 00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:31,279 Speaker 1: Give me the one causing causing arguments with the quarterback 794 00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:33,000 Speaker 1: on the sideline. 795 00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:38,960 Speaker 2: Give me the one. 796 00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:41,080 Speaker 1: I know we just made the playoffs, but nah, I 797 00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:44,360 Speaker 1: really don't see how much reason for optimism around here. 798 00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:49,279 Speaker 1: Give me the one who walked off the field in 799 00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:53,160 Speaker 1: the middle of a football game. Give me the one 800 00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:58,920 Speaker 1: who announced after losing in the final week of the season, 801 00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:00,840 Speaker 1: I think I'm out of here. I don't want to 802 00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:02,920 Speaker 1: play here anymore. Yes, I know, I'm under contract for 803 00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:08,040 Speaker 1: thirty mail. I'm gone. Who's the running back that acting 804 00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:15,759 Speaker 1: like a moron this year? Like go to top, from 805 00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:18,520 Speaker 1: go to top thirty I can't find one. 806 00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:21,799 Speaker 2: You know why, because those guys are the heart and 807 00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:30,080 Speaker 2: souls of offenses. Offensive linemen love running backs. They love 808 00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:33,160 Speaker 2: them because they're hard nosed, they're gritted. The thing I 809 00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:36,880 Speaker 2: love about running backs and Jamal Anderson we used to 810 00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:39,239 Speaker 2: be in install and they'll be like, Okay, we're gonna 811 00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:42,040 Speaker 2: face a nine man boxes. Hey man, don't worry about 812 00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:48,480 Speaker 2: the safeties. Don't worry about them. I take care of them. Right. 813 00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:51,080 Speaker 2: It was an attitude you had. It's the same type 814 00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:53,560 Speaker 2: of attitude sain Kwon Barkley had. He could add over 815 00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:55,800 Speaker 2: twenty yards rush of the day, he could have broken 816 00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:57,520 Speaker 2: at the end of the game, he could have broke 817 00:49:57,560 --> 00:49:59,319 Speaker 2: a sixty yard touchdown run. 818 00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:01,880 Speaker 1: It might have helped me a little bit about eleven and. 819 00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:06,120 Speaker 2: He gets enough, gets them. He's the same guy who 820 00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:08,800 Speaker 2: didn't go for the rushing record. He's the same guy 821 00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:12,799 Speaker 2: who didn't go for his single game rushing record, right, Like, 822 00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:17,319 Speaker 2: he's that guy. It's all about the team, and you 823 00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:21,080 Speaker 2: flip that coin on the very same team he's on. 824 00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:26,239 Speaker 2: You got a guy and aj Brown, who I am 825 00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:29,120 Speaker 2: disgusted by number one. Late in the season, they win 826 00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:32,600 Speaker 2: a game, they've won nine in a row. He's mad 827 00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:34,400 Speaker 2: because he's not getting targets. 828 00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:37,440 Speaker 1: We're not good at throwing the ball. That's what that was, 829 00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:39,439 Speaker 1: just nine in a row. 830 00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:45,279 Speaker 2: Today, we watched he had one reception. We watched him 831 00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:49,320 Speaker 2: on the sideline in the third quarter of an NFL game, 832 00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:56,440 Speaker 2: sitting on the bench reading a book. Can't make this up, 833 00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:58,360 Speaker 2: couldn't write it. If I wrote it in the script 834 00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:00,960 Speaker 2: that people would would they would kill me on Twitter 835 00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:03,959 Speaker 2: on Twitter. 836 00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:10,839 Speaker 1: That's realistic, Ephraim the first time because I had some 837 00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:15,480 Speaker 1: stuff first three quarters of today's game that needed my 838 00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:18,400 Speaker 1: presence and attention, and so I had to kind of 839 00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:21,720 Speaker 1: review that game after the fact. When I first saw 840 00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:24,640 Speaker 1: that video, because when you see things on social media, 841 00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:26,080 Speaker 1: you're like, is that real? 842 00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:26,439 Speaker 2: Right? 843 00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:29,400 Speaker 1: And I looked at it and I'm like, there's no 844 00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:33,040 Speaker 1: way that's real. There's no way that's real. Until I 845 00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:37,239 Speaker 1: kept scrolling and went, oh my god, that's real. You 846 00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:41,080 Speaker 1: just won a playoff game by double digits and you 847 00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:47,040 Speaker 1: decided to make a spectacle of yourself again. I just 848 00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:50,520 Speaker 1: I can't, I can't. I don't get it. And why 849 00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:52,080 Speaker 1: is it always the wide receiver? 850 00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:54,719 Speaker 2: And I got a little bit of tidbit that I 851 00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:58,799 Speaker 2: saw at the end of that game that even accentuates this. 852 00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:00,520 Speaker 2: A lot of people are gonna miss this, but I 853 00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:04,799 Speaker 2: saw it when Sa Kwon Barkley went down and they 854 00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:07,799 Speaker 2: kneeled on the back on the ball to end the game. 855 00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:08,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. 856 00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:10,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, first person that ran over to him and told 857 00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:12,719 Speaker 2: him he should have scored. You should have went for it, 858 00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:17,960 Speaker 2: AJ Brown. That's the difference that right there is the 859 00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:23,520 Speaker 2: difference between those two players. That spoke volumes to me. 860 00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:29,240 Speaker 2: Spoke volumes. He was he was getting on his case 861 00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:36,480 Speaker 2: because he went down and didn't score, and didn't worry 862 00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:39,960 Speaker 2: about him. All you have to do is get the 863 00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:41,880 Speaker 2: first down. The game's over. You don't have to run 864 00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:46,080 Speaker 2: another play. So that's all he was thinking about. He 865 00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:50,720 Speaker 2: wasn't thinking about, oh I need to get let me score. 866 00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:55,520 Speaker 2: Why that is the difference between AJ Brown and Sa 867 00:52:55,600 --> 00:53:01,760 Speaker 2: Kwon Barkley. If you pay someone what they're paying AJ 868 00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:05,040 Speaker 2: Brown and he can are any of these receivers who 869 00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:16,680 Speaker 2: consistently feel like that the offense should go through them, 870 00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:22,560 Speaker 2: then you're in trouble because that's not a fact. That's 871 00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:26,680 Speaker 2: not a fact. The Philadelphia Eagles are the Philadelphia Eagles 872 00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:33,280 Speaker 2: because of Saquon Barkley. Period. There is no They wouldn't 873 00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:37,919 Speaker 2: be who they are without Saquon Barkley. Now, if AJ 874 00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:42,080 Speaker 2: Brown was hurt, I think the Philadelphia Eagles could still 875 00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:46,120 Speaker 2: be the Philadelphia Eagles without AJ Brown. Now he helps, 876 00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:48,600 Speaker 2: of course, he's had some games where he's put up 877 00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:54,120 Speaker 2: some numbers, but that attitude, Nah, I can't do it. Man. 878 00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:55,760 Speaker 2: This man was reading a book on the sideline. 879 00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:57,120 Speaker 1: Read a book. 880 00:53:57,440 --> 00:53:57,840 Speaker 2: I can't. 881 00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:00,799 Speaker 1: He didn't just read a book. He read a book 882 00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:03,319 Speaker 1: with that look on his face too, with his eyebrows 883 00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:06,560 Speaker 1: up like raw. You know, might as well just read 884 00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:06,960 Speaker 1: a book. 885 00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:12,120 Speaker 2: The funny thing is the Wade Davante Smith was looking 886 00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:14,759 Speaker 2: at him as he was reading that book. Was he 887 00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:16,680 Speaker 2: was like, are you crazy? 888 00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:21,239 Speaker 1: I like Davante? I do I love Davante. Davante is 889 00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:23,560 Speaker 1: the one that when he signed twenty five million year 890 00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:25,680 Speaker 1: and they came to him three months later and went Hey, 891 00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:29,280 Speaker 1: the market went up. Did you bite too soon? Boy? 892 00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:32,399 Speaker 1: You shouldn't have done that. He was like, y'all, I'm 893 00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:35,640 Speaker 1: gonna be okay, y'all gonna be fine. I think I 894 00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:40,880 Speaker 1: think I'm gonna eat next question. I like seeing now, 895 00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:43,960 Speaker 1: Davante is the kind of receiver that I won on 896 00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:44,440 Speaker 1: my team. 897 00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:48,080 Speaker 2: Bro, you can't win games and have somebody tearing up 898 00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:54,720 Speaker 2: the locker room emotional not physically because they didn't get theirs. 899 00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:57,160 Speaker 2: That's crazy to me. 900 00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:03,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, no doubt, no doubt. All right, we 901 00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:06,560 Speaker 1: kind of went micro on the Steelers. Let's go macro 902 00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:08,920 Speaker 1: with that situation, and we'll do it next with he 903 00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:13,840 Speaker 1: from Mark Willard, Fox Sports Radio, Hi Raight dot Com Studios, 904 00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:20,120 Speaker 1: Mark Willardy from salam and Baker Mayfield just made I mean, 905 00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:24,800 Speaker 1: you want to talk about a momentum changing play because 906 00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:27,319 Speaker 1: Washington has been controlling the line of scrimmage in this 907 00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:31,279 Speaker 1: year playoff game. And on third and long, Baker Mayfield 908 00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:34,360 Speaker 1: just scrambled straight up the middle of the field and 909 00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:38,280 Speaker 1: when four defenders met him at the first down marker, 910 00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:42,120 Speaker 1: he didn't go down, he didn't slide, he didn't go 911 00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:47,240 Speaker 1: head first. He went shoulder first, knocked a couple dudes 912 00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:51,680 Speaker 1: down and kept ongoing for about seven more yards, and 913 00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:55,960 Speaker 1: now the Bucks are sitting here looking at a first 914 00:55:56,000 --> 00:56:01,000 Speaker 1: down deep in the red zone for Washington. Baker Mayfield's 915 00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:03,160 Speaker 1: got my attention this year for sure. 916 00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:05,839 Speaker 2: How do you not sign up for that guy? 917 00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:08,520 Speaker 1: Come on, man, And this is what I was getting 918 00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:11,239 Speaker 1: at earlier. I'd love to almost bring this back and 919 00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:14,480 Speaker 1: bring some other names into it. We've got to stop 920 00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:18,960 Speaker 1: asking quarterbacks to be Superman. They don't win the Super 921 00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:23,040 Speaker 1: Bowl by themselves. You just said a minute ago about 922 00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:28,239 Speaker 1: the Eagles. They're not the Eagles without Saquon Barkley. Well, 923 00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:32,320 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna hold it against Jalen Hurts if Barkley 924 00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:35,880 Speaker 1: gets hurt and the Eagles don't look as good and 925 00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:37,839 Speaker 1: all of a sudden we're like, oh, they're supposed to 926 00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:40,560 Speaker 1: elevate your teammates. You're supposed to put everyone on your 927 00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:44,360 Speaker 1: back and be Superman and all this stuff. They can't 928 00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:47,680 Speaker 1: all be Lamar, they can't all be Josh Allen. I 929 00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:50,920 Speaker 1: give you a list of guys around the league who 930 00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:54,520 Speaker 1: have kind of gotten whacked upside the head here and 931 00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:59,920 Speaker 1: there this season, who I think are good enough. Jared 932 00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:08,240 Speaker 1: Golf you're good enough. Baker Mayfield, you are good enough. CJ. 933 00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:10,600 Speaker 1: Stroud you're good enough. 934 00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:12,520 Speaker 2: And they're not good enough. They're good. 935 00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:17,160 Speaker 1: They're good, I mean good. Rock Purty you're good. 936 00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:17,800 Speaker 2: You're good. 937 00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:22,760 Speaker 1: By the way, quarterbacks, and count me among those who's 938 00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:26,680 Speaker 1: not gonna victory lap On, Justin Herbert and Jordan Love's 939 00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:31,800 Speaker 1: heads because of a football one football game which, by 940 00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:35,120 Speaker 1: the way, at least to of Justin Herbert's picks went 941 00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:39,200 Speaker 1: right through the hands of his receivers. So I like, 942 00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:44,040 Speaker 1: I don't know, man, these are we he kills me. Man, 943 00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:47,280 Speaker 1: you lose a game and all of a sudden it's 944 00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:54,120 Speaker 1: a full twelve months of that quarterback sucks. I'm just like, no, 945 00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:56,320 Speaker 1: they don't, man, No, they don't. 946 00:57:56,400 --> 00:58:04,720 Speaker 2: Okay, So let's put this in perspective, okay, please. Joe 947 00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:10,440 Speaker 2: Burrow is great, phenomenal. Jared Goff is good, Baker may 948 00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:17,560 Speaker 2: feels good. Geno Smith is okay, Okayjam Darnold was good 949 00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:22,520 Speaker 2: this year, but in general is okay. Lamar Jackson is great, 950 00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:28,000 Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes is great, Aaron Rodgers is washed, Justin Herbert 951 00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:32,440 Speaker 2: is good, Brock Purdy is good, Kyler Murray is okay, 952 00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:40,720 Speaker 2: Bo Nicks is okay? Interesting because yes, right right, Matthew 953 00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:45,360 Speaker 2: Stafford is good, Jared Allen is great. C J Soald 954 00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:50,360 Speaker 2: is good, Jaydon Daniels good, borderline very good. 955 00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:52,280 Speaker 1: Looks like he's gonna be great. 956 00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:57,560 Speaker 2: Caleb Williams A lot to a lot of growth there questions. 957 00:58:57,600 --> 00:59:03,440 Speaker 2: Cousins is okay, Jordan Love is good, Jalen Hurts is good, 958 00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:10,600 Speaker 2: Tua is okay, okay, Russell Wilson is okay. Bryce Young 959 00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:15,160 Speaker 2: not no, sir, Drake May. We don't know yet, right, 960 00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:24,920 Speaker 2: Derek Carr is okay? Are yeah? Will Levis look out far. 961 00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:27,200 Speaker 1: You got it. You haven't yet said sucks. 962 00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:31,480 Speaker 2: No. Now we're getting into it right now, We're now 963 00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:35,400 Speaker 2: we're getting out to it. Daniel Jones right, trash no good? 964 00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:35,640 Speaker 1: Right? 965 00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:37,800 Speaker 2: Will Levis? No, not my cup of tea? 966 00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:40,520 Speaker 1: Would you stop right there for a second, though, because 967 00:59:40,600 --> 00:59:43,000 Speaker 1: do you realize and I know what you're doing, you're 968 00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:47,120 Speaker 1: rolling right down right. It's in order of passing yards 969 00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:49,760 Speaker 1: this year, right, And I know I know he missed 970 00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:53,400 Speaker 1: some games, but you have not yet mentioned a quarterback 971 00:59:53,600 --> 00:59:58,040 Speaker 1: who is making fifty five million dollars a year. And 972 00:59:58,080 --> 01:00:02,640 Speaker 1: you have named over twenty five quarterbacks and you haven't 973 01:00:02,640 --> 01:00:05,720 Speaker 1: gotten to one of them yet. Actually, I'm sorry you 974 01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:09,120 Speaker 1: haven't gotten to two of them yet. And again part 975 01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:11,800 Speaker 1: of that is because of games played. But you have 976 01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:15,720 Speaker 1: not yet mentioned Trevor Lawrence. What word would you use for. 977 01:00:15,720 --> 01:00:17,800 Speaker 2: Trevor Trevor Lawrence is okay? 978 01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:20,800 Speaker 1: Okay? And what word would you use? By the way, 979 01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:23,640 Speaker 1: touchdown Tampa, they're an extra point away from tying. You go, 980 01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:27,040 Speaker 1: I'm that in a second. But what word would you 981 01:00:27,120 --> 01:00:28,720 Speaker 1: use for for Dak Prescott? 982 01:00:29,800 --> 01:00:34,960 Speaker 2: I would use okay for Dak Prescott, not good, just okay. 983 01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:40,800 Speaker 2: In a normal situation, Listen, listen, this is real. This 984 01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:42,920 Speaker 2: is what you get when you're at the Dallas Cowboys. 985 01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:45,720 Speaker 2: In a normal situation, Dak Prescott will be good on 986 01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:48,640 Speaker 2: any other team, But because he's in Dallas and the 987 01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:57,920 Speaker 2: expectations are always are always unrealistic, and the scrutiny of 988 01:00:58,120 --> 01:01:06,760 Speaker 2: that drops him down to okay. Now, if you look 989 01:01:06,760 --> 01:01:10,959 Speaker 2: at his numbers, he's good. If Dak Prescott is Dak 990 01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:16,240 Speaker 2: Prescott in Tampa, he's good. If he's Dak Prescott in Jacksonville, 991 01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:21,960 Speaker 2: he's good. Yeah, But because he's in Dallas, there's no 992 01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:32,160 Speaker 2: middle ground, right, like and and and that's the problem. 993 01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:36,960 Speaker 2: But you know, you know Gardner minshew, No, yeah, right, 994 01:01:37,080 --> 01:01:39,720 Speaker 2: I mean put it. Put it this way, Anthony Richardson. 995 01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:42,760 Speaker 1: No, And I'm not gonna like pin you down to 996 01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:46,440 Speaker 1: an exact number, but approximately of all those names you 997 01:01:46,600 --> 01:01:51,560 Speaker 1: just rolled through, who's capable at least once one time. 998 01:01:51,600 --> 01:01:55,960 Speaker 1: I'm not talking about dynasty in this crap. Who's capable 999 01:01:56,240 --> 01:01:57,959 Speaker 1: of winning a Super Bowl? How many? 1000 01:01:57,960 --> 01:02:04,480 Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you right now. I'm tell you right now. One, three, 1001 01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:11,840 Speaker 2: four mm hmmm, five, six, seven. 1002 01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:16,800 Speaker 3: Mm hmm. 1003 01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:21,040 Speaker 1: You're not stopping there? 1004 01:02:21,040 --> 01:02:28,480 Speaker 2: Hold one man, hold on, give me a okay, okay, okay, eight, 1005 01:02:32,160 --> 01:02:32,760 Speaker 2: I got eight. 1006 01:02:33,960 --> 01:02:37,800 Speaker 1: Okay, don't don't, don't mention it. Don't mention it. 1007 01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:41,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, one more. One more on that list, one more one? 1008 01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:43,479 Speaker 2: You got way one more on that list? 1009 01:02:43,880 --> 01:02:47,520 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, for sure. 1010 01:02:49,920 --> 01:02:50,320 Speaker 2: I'm sorry. 1011 01:02:50,320 --> 01:02:53,240 Speaker 5: It's busy reading a book. I wasn't come to me once. 1012 01:02:55,080 --> 01:02:55,880 Speaker 1: It's amazing. 1013 01:02:56,040 --> 01:02:56,800 Speaker 2: I tell you what. 1014 01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:03,240 Speaker 5: Died With the first half touchdown, they're at the break, 1015 01:03:03,320 --> 01:03:06,400 Speaker 5: Tampa Tide ten ten against the Washington Commanders. By the way, 1016 01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:10,920 Speaker 5: Philadelphia wide receiver AJ Brown, as you might guess, was asked, 1017 01:03:10,960 --> 01:03:13,360 Speaker 5: why were you reading a book on the bench during 1018 01:03:13,400 --> 01:03:17,720 Speaker 5: Philadelphia's playoff game today, he says that particular book gives 1019 01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:18,920 Speaker 5: me a sense of piece. 1020 01:03:19,280 --> 01:03:21,000 Speaker 2: That's a book that I bring every single game. 1021 01:03:21,600 --> 01:03:23,760 Speaker 5: Every single game, he says, he brings. 1022 01:03:23,520 --> 01:03:26,360 Speaker 1: That book, but we've never noticed it before. 1023 01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:29,280 Speaker 5: No, just the game where he had one catch, got 1024 01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:29,760 Speaker 5: it yip. 1025 01:03:29,800 --> 01:03:32,680 Speaker 2: But why, though, does somebody say, why do you bring 1026 01:03:32,720 --> 01:03:33,960 Speaker 2: a book to a football game? 1027 01:03:35,160 --> 01:03:39,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, you can't have ten perceptions unless you well, you had. 1028 01:03:39,200 --> 01:03:40,040 Speaker 2: One with the book. 1029 01:03:40,080 --> 01:03:42,520 Speaker 5: So, come to think of it, I'm not sure that's 1030 01:03:42,560 --> 01:03:44,919 Speaker 5: the good luck charm that you're really looking for here. 1031 01:03:45,400 --> 01:03:48,560 Speaker 5: The Eagles, on the other hand, they are fifteen and three, 1032 01:03:48,800 --> 01:03:51,000 Speaker 5: they're nine and one at home, and as a two seed, 1033 01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:54,840 Speaker 5: they're getting another home game next weekend. Philadelphia eliminated Green 1034 01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:58,280 Speaker 5: Bay twenty two to ten. Saquon Barkley one hundred and 1035 01:03:58,320 --> 01:04:02,520 Speaker 5: nineteen yards rushing, short field goals for Philly. Jalen Hurts 1036 01:04:02,560 --> 01:04:07,400 Speaker 5: two touchdown passes. Buffalo eliminated Denver thirty one seven. Broncos 1037 01:04:07,440 --> 01:04:10,320 Speaker 5: had a long touchdown pass in the opening minutes, never 1038 01:04:10,320 --> 01:04:12,840 Speaker 5: scored again. They were down ten to seven at the 1039 01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:15,560 Speaker 5: half thirty one seven the final. The Bills are still 1040 01:04:15,640 --> 01:04:19,240 Speaker 5: undefeated at home, nine to zero, fourteen and four overall. 1041 01:04:19,720 --> 01:04:22,680 Speaker 5: Denver finished four and six on the road ten and 1042 01:04:22,800 --> 01:04:25,480 Speaker 5: eight overall. They were the last team to get into 1043 01:04:25,520 --> 01:04:28,720 Speaker 5: the playoffs in the AFC. The update on Tampa Bay 1044 01:04:28,760 --> 01:04:30,800 Speaker 5: tying the game ten ten at half at home at 1045 01:04:30,840 --> 01:04:34,560 Speaker 5: gats Washington. Mike Evans late first half drew a pass 1046 01:04:34,600 --> 01:04:37,000 Speaker 5: interference in the end zone. Next play he gets a 1047 01:04:37,040 --> 01:04:40,400 Speaker 5: one yard TD reception. So Evans was targeted five times 1048 01:04:40,400 --> 01:04:43,800 Speaker 5: first half, had five catches sixty six yards and the 1049 01:04:43,840 --> 01:04:47,600 Speaker 5: touchdown from Baker Mayfield. There was a fifty two yard 1050 01:04:47,600 --> 01:04:50,480 Speaker 5: field goal from the Washington side early. There was a 1051 01:04:50,520 --> 01:04:53,280 Speaker 5: fifty yard field goal made on the Tampa Bay side 1052 01:04:53,560 --> 01:04:56,440 Speaker 5: in between Jade and Daniels with a ten yard touchdown 1053 01:04:56,480 --> 01:05:00,440 Speaker 5: pass early second quarter that finished a seventeen played for 1054 01:05:00,640 --> 01:05:04,680 Speaker 5: Washington ninety two yards. That was a nine minute plus drive. 1055 01:05:05,080 --> 01:05:07,520 Speaker 5: The game is tied ten to ten at the half. 1056 01:05:07,840 --> 01:05:10,400 Speaker 5: In the NBA, it's the Jazz ahead of the net 1057 01:05:10,520 --> 01:05:14,440 Speaker 5: sixty two to sixty mid third quarter. Among the earlier games, 1058 01:05:14,560 --> 01:05:18,840 Speaker 5: Nuggets won at Dallas. Nicks won forty to one oh 1059 01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:23,760 Speaker 5: six over Milwaukee. Jalen Brunson with forty four points, I 1060 01:05:23,760 --> 01:05:26,640 Speaker 5: should say, and the Lakers you may have heard, had 1061 01:05:26,640 --> 01:05:29,800 Speaker 5: a home game again postponed last night. The Clippers home 1062 01:05:29,840 --> 01:05:32,120 Speaker 5: game last night was postponed as well due to the 1063 01:05:32,280 --> 01:05:35,919 Speaker 5: La fires. Now the Lakers will have a home game 1064 01:05:36,000 --> 01:05:39,000 Speaker 5: tomorrow night against the Spurs, and the Clippers will play 1065 01:05:39,000 --> 01:05:42,960 Speaker 5: at home tomorrow against Miami. Yes, they are in separate arenas. Now, 1066 01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:44,800 Speaker 5: in case you were to wear the Clippers built their 1067 01:05:44,840 --> 01:05:47,080 Speaker 5: own place across the street from the Rams Stadium. 1068 01:05:47,160 --> 01:05:49,360 Speaker 2: No one goes not true. 1069 01:05:49,400 --> 01:05:51,120 Speaker 5: I hear, I hear. It's a great place. 1070 01:05:51,080 --> 01:05:51,880 Speaker 2: Here, It's a great place. 1071 01:05:52,640 --> 01:05:56,440 Speaker 5: The NBA previously had postponed the Lakers home game on Thursday, 1072 01:05:56,520 --> 01:06:00,240 Speaker 5: Lakers fan co hosting following the Monday home game for 1073 01:06:00,280 --> 01:06:03,040 Speaker 5: those two. The Lakers will be home to the Heat 1074 01:06:03,080 --> 01:06:06,080 Speaker 5: on Wednesday and the Clippers will be home to Brooklyn. 1075 01:06:06,160 --> 01:06:09,280 Speaker 1: So updating, they're back to you, Steve. You got to 1076 01:06:09,320 --> 01:06:12,040 Speaker 1: tell the man that if you really, if you really 1077 01:06:12,120 --> 01:06:14,640 Speaker 1: really want to be a Laker fan and do that right, 1078 01:06:15,520 --> 01:06:19,200 Speaker 1: don't get triggered by the Clippers. You have to just 1079 01:06:19,320 --> 01:06:20,720 Speaker 1: act like they're not even there. 1080 01:06:20,760 --> 01:06:22,680 Speaker 2: They're not there, and when have they been? 1081 01:06:22,720 --> 01:06:26,040 Speaker 1: But but you saying that means that you're like, oh, 1082 01:06:28,080 --> 01:06:30,880 Speaker 1: hal on the back of the neck is to dance around. 1083 01:06:31,920 --> 01:06:35,720 Speaker 2: Do the Magata bring a chip home to LA, then 1084 01:06:35,760 --> 01:06:37,960 Speaker 2: we have something to talk about. Haven't been in the 1085 01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:41,840 Speaker 2: finals yet. Other than that, it is what it is. 1086 01:06:41,880 --> 01:06:44,120 Speaker 2: It's your ten year old brother who's annoying the head 1087 01:06:44,160 --> 01:06:45,720 Speaker 2: guy of you, and you're in high school. 1088 01:06:46,360 --> 01:06:49,200 Speaker 5: Lakers and Clippers right now battling for that sixth seed 1089 01:06:49,200 --> 01:06:50,160 Speaker 5: to avoid the play in. 1090 01:06:51,560 --> 01:06:52,000 Speaker 2: We're good. 1091 01:06:52,120 --> 01:06:54,240 Speaker 5: Yes, there are standings in the NBA that we can 1092 01:06:54,280 --> 01:06:57,040 Speaker 5: actually mention on January twelfth for cred out loud. 1093 01:06:57,600 --> 01:07:04,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, the NBA is in a crisis of the 1094 01:07:04,200 --> 01:07:07,680 Speaker 1: major market by the way, free fall, I mean, well, like, yeah, 1095 01:07:07,720 --> 01:07:10,880 Speaker 1: the two LA teams are battling for the sixth seed. 1096 01:07:11,560 --> 01:07:16,480 Speaker 1: Golden State's battling to even be in this thing. Meanwhile, 1097 01:07:16,880 --> 01:07:22,440 Speaker 1: Oklahoma City, Houston, Memphis, and Denver, Cleveland. I mean, there's Boston, 1098 01:07:23,200 --> 01:07:30,560 Speaker 1: what's Philadelphia? Philadelphia is the eleven seed. Yeah, man, some 1099 01:07:30,600 --> 01:07:34,200 Speaker 1: of these brands need a little bit of a branding 1100 01:07:34,240 --> 01:07:35,120 Speaker 1: problem right now. 1101 01:07:35,680 --> 01:07:38,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, what we're seeing is the teams that draft well 1102 01:07:39,160 --> 01:07:44,080 Speaker 2: are now aging well. How about that? Look at Houston, right, 1103 01:07:44,120 --> 01:07:48,200 Speaker 2: Look Cleveland, Cleveland, the teams that draft well are aging well. 1104 01:07:48,760 --> 01:07:51,760 Speaker 1: Cleveland is nice? Man? Did you watch that Cavs Thunder 1105 01:07:51,800 --> 01:07:56,080 Speaker 1: game this week. Yeah, oh that. I was like, oh, 1106 01:07:56,200 --> 01:08:01,680 Speaker 1: there's basketball. I remember you. I mean they used the 1107 01:08:01,760 --> 01:08:05,880 Speaker 1: paint and everything they did the whole thing. They played basketball. 1108 01:08:05,960 --> 01:08:09,000 Speaker 1: It was crazy. The big guys scored, the small guys scored, 1109 01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:13,959 Speaker 1: teams played, stars, didn't play well, yet the team picked 1110 01:08:14,040 --> 01:08:19,040 Speaker 1: him up. I was like, I remember you. It's beautiful, man. 1111 01:08:20,200 --> 01:08:22,280 Speaker 2: Basketball is a beautiful thing if it's done right. 1112 01:08:23,400 --> 01:08:26,400 Speaker 1: I mean, I have no reason to think right now 1113 01:08:26,400 --> 01:08:29,400 Speaker 1: that that won't be the NBA Finals. 1114 01:08:30,760 --> 01:08:31,479 Speaker 2: Oh, I hope not. 1115 01:08:32,640 --> 01:08:36,599 Speaker 1: I know you don't. But these teams are both five 1116 01:08:36,720 --> 01:08:40,439 Speaker 1: six games clear of the two seed right now. They 1117 01:08:40,520 --> 01:08:43,000 Speaker 1: are going to be the one seeds, and they are 1118 01:08:43,320 --> 01:08:46,720 Speaker 1: very deep, and they are very good, and I just 1119 01:08:46,800 --> 01:08:50,200 Speaker 1: don't see someone beating them on their home floor. I 1120 01:08:50,240 --> 01:08:52,799 Speaker 1: know we got a long way to go, but those 1121 01:08:52,920 --> 01:08:59,240 Speaker 1: are the two squads. Yeah, sorry, sorry, Boston. I know 1122 01:08:59,640 --> 01:09:05,639 Speaker 1: I know you're good, You're very very good. But yaikes, dude, 1123 01:09:05,720 --> 01:09:12,000 Speaker 1: Cleveland is a squab. That youth, boy, exactly, that youth 1124 01:09:12,439 --> 01:09:16,280 Speaker 1: all right, back to the support. Everybody cares about it, Yeah, exactly. Okay, 1125 01:09:16,400 --> 01:09:18,559 Speaker 1: we haven't even talked. Dude. Do you think that the 1126 01:09:18,560 --> 01:09:21,000 Speaker 1: Steelers are supposed to move on from Mike Tomlin. Is 1127 01:09:21,040 --> 01:09:21,679 Speaker 1: that where you're at? 1128 01:09:21,760 --> 01:09:21,840 Speaker 5: No? 1129 01:09:21,960 --> 01:09:22,919 Speaker 2: What are you crazy? 1130 01:09:23,520 --> 01:09:24,040 Speaker 1: Thank you? 1131 01:09:24,800 --> 01:09:28,320 Speaker 2: Whoever thinking that they got They tripped everybody. 1132 01:09:28,800 --> 01:09:31,519 Speaker 1: It's everywhere. And I don't just mean Twitter. 1133 01:09:31,680 --> 01:09:36,599 Speaker 2: You want to talk about the fastest higher in NFL history. 1134 01:09:37,120 --> 01:09:37,759 Speaker 1: They're right. 1135 01:09:39,360 --> 01:09:43,200 Speaker 2: The day at the press conference when they announced that 1136 01:09:43,280 --> 01:09:47,679 Speaker 2: he's they're moving, They're walking away from Mike Tomlin. He's 1137 01:09:47,720 --> 01:09:50,000 Speaker 2: going to step down and then step back up on 1138 01:09:50,040 --> 01:09:51,360 Speaker 2: the stage to announce. 1139 01:09:51,000 --> 01:09:55,360 Speaker 1: His new it's owners of other teams waiting outside. 1140 01:09:55,000 --> 01:09:59,920 Speaker 2: The pay They have set their own press conference up outside. 1141 01:10:00,400 --> 01:10:03,519 Speaker 1: Here's what I'd say. And Mark Withaerty from salam tyrock 1142 01:10:03,560 --> 01:10:06,120 Speaker 1: dot com Studios, Here's what I would say. But I 1143 01:10:06,160 --> 01:10:08,160 Speaker 1: believe that Mike Tomlin can do this. I'm with you. 1144 01:10:08,200 --> 01:10:10,040 Speaker 1: He's a good coach. And I don't know why we 1145 01:10:10,040 --> 01:10:13,680 Speaker 1: we just get so tired of everybody. Now, like you 1146 01:10:13,760 --> 01:10:16,160 Speaker 1: have one off season and it's like, oh, we gotta 1147 01:10:16,439 --> 01:10:19,000 Speaker 1: get him out of here. It's like, what are you doing? Like? 1148 01:10:19,320 --> 01:10:21,880 Speaker 2: First of all, the expectations for the Steelers in that 1149 01:10:22,000 --> 01:10:26,800 Speaker 2: division was zero zero, correct, it was zero with no 1150 01:10:26,960 --> 01:10:29,559 Speaker 2: they were with no quarterback. Now they were. 1151 01:10:29,439 --> 01:10:31,280 Speaker 1: Supposed to be right. They were supposed to be third, 1152 01:10:31,360 --> 01:10:33,160 Speaker 1: and they almost came and said in first. 1153 01:10:33,280 --> 01:10:36,200 Speaker 2: Well they were first for the great majority. 1154 01:10:35,720 --> 01:10:37,880 Speaker 1: Of the year. Yeah, and I know they haven't won 1155 01:10:37,920 --> 01:10:39,759 Speaker 1: a football game in a month and all that good stuff. 1156 01:10:39,800 --> 01:10:43,479 Speaker 1: But but but here's what I would say. I do 1157 01:10:43,640 --> 01:10:51,160 Speaker 1: wonder about the mentality of the organization this whole like, 1158 01:10:52,080 --> 01:10:56,559 Speaker 1: and I know it matches Pittsburgh perfectly, but this three 1159 01:10:56,680 --> 01:10:59,960 Speaker 1: yards and a cloud of dust, and we'd Pittsburgh and 1160 01:11:00,120 --> 01:11:02,840 Speaker 1: won't mean and we're tough and we're physical and I'm 1161 01:11:02,840 --> 01:11:05,800 Speaker 1: not trying to take your physicality away from you, but 1162 01:11:07,920 --> 01:11:09,560 Speaker 1: you need to be more dynamic. 1163 01:11:09,800 --> 01:11:12,479 Speaker 2: You You know what I saw in that game at 1164 01:11:12,479 --> 01:11:17,720 Speaker 2: Pittsburgh Baltimore game. If they would have come out and 1165 01:11:17,840 --> 01:11:22,320 Speaker 2: allowed Russ and call plays to throw the ball down 1166 01:11:22,360 --> 01:11:24,920 Speaker 2: the field from the beginning, and then they able to said, well, 1167 01:11:25,040 --> 01:11:28,840 Speaker 2: whatever happens happens, that would have that would have gave 1168 01:11:28,920 --> 01:11:31,080 Speaker 2: them an opportunity shot. 1169 01:11:31,320 --> 01:11:34,360 Speaker 1: Yes, a shot, yes, period a shot. 1170 01:11:35,200 --> 01:11:38,720 Speaker 2: But that what they were doing. No, no, no, no, no, 1171 01:11:38,760 --> 01:11:41,160 Speaker 2: that's not it. You gotta spread the you gotta spread 1172 01:11:41,200 --> 01:11:43,240 Speaker 2: the field, you gotta open it up, you gotta throw 1173 01:11:43,240 --> 01:11:45,439 Speaker 2: the ball down the field immediately I'm. 1174 01:11:45,280 --> 01:11:47,439 Speaker 1: Telling you, man, I think there's like we could have 1175 01:11:47,479 --> 01:11:50,720 Speaker 1: this conversation about the Niners too. There's something to be 1176 01:11:50,760 --> 01:11:53,959 Speaker 1: said in this NFL that if you can't come from behind, 1177 01:11:55,720 --> 01:11:59,600 Speaker 1: I don't know, man, I like, you have to be 1178 01:11:59,720 --> 01:12:02,840 Speaker 1: down ten points and still be able to play your game. 1179 01:12:04,040 --> 01:12:06,400 Speaker 1: And and and there's there's a few teams that have 1180 01:12:06,479 --> 01:12:09,479 Speaker 1: been very successful and they're very well coached. But I 1181 01:12:09,479 --> 01:12:14,640 Speaker 1: think just a little, a little reinvention might might be 1182 01:12:14,680 --> 01:12:18,840 Speaker 1: in the cards. But I'm not calling for firing good coaches. 1183 01:12:19,680 --> 01:12:27,439 Speaker 2: Not at all. No. I I think I think they 1184 01:12:27,439 --> 01:12:30,760 Speaker 2: got a little complacent. I think they were trying to 1185 01:12:30,800 --> 01:12:37,920 Speaker 2: figure out I'm almost positive they wanted to come out 1186 01:12:37,960 --> 01:12:41,960 Speaker 2: in that second half with with with Justin Fields, and 1187 01:12:42,400 --> 01:12:45,080 Speaker 2: I'm sure it was and they may not have told 1188 01:12:45,160 --> 01:12:48,639 Speaker 2: us this, but I'm sure the sentiment was, we'll give 1189 01:12:48,680 --> 01:12:55,519 Speaker 2: them a series and then you're you're in. But then 1190 01:12:55,560 --> 01:12:59,720 Speaker 2: they went down and scored right right, So then it 1191 01:12:59,800 --> 01:13:03,360 Speaker 2: was because remember there was a little just the Fields 1192 01:13:03,360 --> 01:13:06,200 Speaker 2: that came out on the field and then right play 1193 01:13:06,280 --> 01:13:08,160 Speaker 2: his stopped because of a drone and came back and 1194 01:13:08,200 --> 01:13:12,439 Speaker 2: he wasn't there anymore like it was. I'm sure there 1195 01:13:12,520 --> 01:13:17,360 Speaker 2: was that type of energy going going around. So you know, 1196 01:13:17,600 --> 01:13:20,400 Speaker 2: but they came out the second half and open up 1197 01:13:20,479 --> 01:13:24,000 Speaker 2: open let him throw, just throw the ball, Let him 1198 01:13:24,040 --> 01:13:26,000 Speaker 2: throw the ball. Let Russ Cook. 1199 01:13:28,680 --> 01:13:30,600 Speaker 1: Well, I would love to ask you what what what 1200 01:13:30,760 --> 01:13:33,400 Speaker 1: should they do at quarterback next year? Let's get into 1201 01:13:33,439 --> 01:13:37,160 Speaker 1: that coming up next on Fox Sports Radio. All Right, 1202 01:13:37,160 --> 01:13:39,920 Speaker 1: our second half is underway, and so are we here 1203 01:13:40,000 --> 01:13:44,000 Speaker 1: in the ty rack dot Com studios. That'sy from Salam 1204 01:13:44,120 --> 01:13:48,800 Speaker 1: I'm Mark Willard, and Washington is on the move again 1205 01:13:48,880 --> 01:13:51,840 Speaker 1: opening drive second half and they've moved well in to 1206 01:13:52,160 --> 01:13:55,000 Speaker 1: Tampa territory. We didn't get to talk out very much 1207 01:13:55,080 --> 01:13:58,280 Speaker 1: the fact that the Bucks went right down the field 1208 01:13:58,800 --> 01:14:03,040 Speaker 1: just before halftime and it up. So what's your what's 1209 01:14:03,040 --> 01:14:05,200 Speaker 1: your takeaway right now as we go to the second half. 1210 01:14:06,360 --> 01:14:08,559 Speaker 2: Look, this is a this is the type of playoff 1211 01:14:08,600 --> 01:14:11,800 Speaker 2: game we want, right no matter who you're rooting for, 1212 01:14:11,960 --> 01:14:15,839 Speaker 2: you want this type of level. These are two playoff teams, 1213 01:14:16,360 --> 01:14:21,880 Speaker 2: fighting double digit win teams, fighting for a chance to 1214 01:14:22,560 --> 01:14:26,479 Speaker 2: fight again next week. And I love it. 1215 01:14:27,080 --> 01:14:28,800 Speaker 1: First and goal Washington by the way, Oh yes. 1216 01:14:29,600 --> 01:14:34,639 Speaker 2: They you know they're coming out. They've had no problem 1217 01:14:34,680 --> 01:14:38,000 Speaker 2: moving the ball, They've had no problem moving the ball, 1218 01:14:38,040 --> 01:14:40,960 Speaker 2: and I like that. I love that this game hasn't 1219 01:14:41,000 --> 01:14:43,840 Speaker 2: gotten too big so far for Jaydon Daniels. And and 1220 01:14:44,240 --> 01:14:48,560 Speaker 2: look that miraculous run at the end of the second 1221 01:14:49,200 --> 01:14:53,080 Speaker 2: quarter for Baker Mayfield. He is going to put the 1222 01:14:53,120 --> 01:14:54,120 Speaker 2: team on his shoulders. 1223 01:14:54,280 --> 01:14:54,519 Speaker 1: Now. 1224 01:14:54,640 --> 01:14:56,400 Speaker 2: The thing that I talked about at the beginning of 1225 01:14:56,439 --> 01:15:02,360 Speaker 2: this program is normal when he does that, he pushes 1226 01:15:02,400 --> 01:15:05,320 Speaker 2: a little bit, and that could put the ball in 1227 01:15:05,400 --> 01:15:08,840 Speaker 2: horms away. As long as he can keep it contained 1228 01:15:09,000 --> 01:15:12,080 Speaker 2: and keep that same level of energy and ferocity, I 1229 01:15:12,080 --> 01:15:14,439 Speaker 2: think we're in for a heck of a game. 1230 01:15:15,720 --> 01:15:18,479 Speaker 1: Now. I want to get into the Pittsburgh situation. But 1231 01:15:19,040 --> 01:15:21,880 Speaker 1: with h with all of the hanging out that we 1232 01:15:21,920 --> 01:15:25,240 Speaker 1: did with Steve de Seger here earlier this hour, I 1233 01:15:25,320 --> 01:15:28,799 Speaker 1: never got your list. I want I want your list. 1234 01:15:29,680 --> 01:15:35,120 Speaker 1: You said you had nine, eight, eight or nine. Oh, 1235 01:15:35,240 --> 01:15:39,240 Speaker 1: that's like Steve was nine. Okay, so you've got eight 1236 01:15:39,360 --> 01:15:42,960 Speaker 1: quarterbacks super Bowl. Who you currently think in the NFL 1237 01:15:43,000 --> 01:15:46,479 Speaker 1: are capable of winning the Super Bowl? Fire away? 1238 01:15:46,520 --> 01:15:53,320 Speaker 2: Brother, Joe Burrow, Sure, Jared Goff Okay, Lamar Jackson Okay. 1239 01:15:53,360 --> 01:16:02,400 Speaker 6: Patrick Mahomes noted, thanks for that one, buddy, Yeah, justin 1240 01:16:02,439 --> 01:16:06,880 Speaker 6: Herbert okay, five, yep, brock Party, okay. 1241 01:16:06,920 --> 01:16:10,320 Speaker 2: Six, Matthew Stafford seven. 1242 01:16:10,120 --> 01:16:15,040 Speaker 1: Sure, gosh, okay, eight and you stopped there. 1243 01:16:15,200 --> 01:16:21,880 Speaker 2: And a possible I'm for sure those eight can and 1244 01:16:21,960 --> 01:16:28,599 Speaker 2: maybe a possible maybe a possible nine, But those eight 1245 01:16:28,840 --> 01:16:31,040 Speaker 2: I would feel confident that they could do it. 1246 01:16:31,720 --> 01:16:34,519 Speaker 1: Who's your maybe that you're thinking about right. 1247 01:16:34,439 --> 01:16:38,799 Speaker 2: Now, maybe would be it's is it? 1248 01:16:38,840 --> 01:16:42,240 Speaker 1: Is it a person? Or you're like, you mean this sort. 1249 01:16:42,000 --> 01:16:44,479 Speaker 2: Of in a more No, it's c J. 1250 01:16:44,560 --> 01:16:50,000 Speaker 1: Stroud, c J Strout. Okay. So, like, first of all, 1251 01:16:50,080 --> 01:16:53,400 Speaker 1: I'm gonna co sign with your field goal for Washington 1252 01:16:53,439 --> 01:16:55,680 Speaker 1: by the way, thirteen ten, I'm gonna co sign with 1253 01:16:55,720 --> 01:17:00,599 Speaker 1: your list with the request that we have the Justin 1254 01:17:00,640 --> 01:17:03,600 Speaker 1: Herbert conversation at the top of the hour based on 1255 01:17:03,640 --> 01:17:10,759 Speaker 1: what happened yesterday. But then, like I would bet people 1256 01:17:10,800 --> 01:17:14,880 Speaker 1: listening to that list, the immediate questions that would come 1257 01:17:14,960 --> 01:17:22,000 Speaker 1: up are, where's Jalen Hurts because he already ome, I mean, 1258 01:17:22,040 --> 01:17:24,800 Speaker 1: he already damned damn. I mean's guy scored thirty five 1259 01:17:24,800 --> 01:17:30,800 Speaker 1: points in a Super Bowl already? Where's Jordan Love? And 1260 01:17:30,880 --> 01:17:33,439 Speaker 1: again these are just I want to ask you your thoughts. 1261 01:17:33,479 --> 01:17:37,040 Speaker 1: I'm not saying I agree or disagree, and then how 1262 01:17:37,120 --> 01:17:39,519 Speaker 1: long until Jayden Daniels makes your list? 1263 01:17:40,320 --> 01:17:44,479 Speaker 2: Well, we go see at the end it is the 1264 01:17:44,560 --> 01:17:47,240 Speaker 2: list might update here in an hour. It is a 1265 01:17:47,280 --> 01:17:51,439 Speaker 2: fluid list, I can tell you that. And the reason 1266 01:17:51,560 --> 01:17:54,240 Speaker 2: for those who would say Jalen hurts is I'm not 1267 01:17:54,360 --> 01:17:59,639 Speaker 2: quite sure own Jalen hurts. Like I said, the reason 1268 01:17:59,680 --> 01:18:01,920 Speaker 2: they are who they are and where they are is 1269 01:18:01,920 --> 01:18:06,679 Speaker 2: because of Sakuon Barkley. Now, Jalen hurts when it's all 1270 01:18:06,720 --> 01:18:09,920 Speaker 2: put on his shoulders and he's had he has some games. 1271 01:18:09,920 --> 01:18:11,840 Speaker 2: There are some games that are phenomenal. There are some 1272 01:18:11,920 --> 01:18:15,519 Speaker 2: games that are are great, but then there's some some 1273 01:18:15,560 --> 01:18:17,760 Speaker 2: games where you look at me like I don't know, 1274 01:18:18,800 --> 01:18:21,120 Speaker 2: you know, and and and look out of everybody. He's 1275 01:18:21,160 --> 01:18:26,800 Speaker 2: got two dynamic weapons period plus three with Goddard. Right, 1276 01:18:29,120 --> 01:18:33,160 Speaker 2: I'm just talking about it strictly passing in the passing game. 1277 01:18:34,120 --> 01:18:39,759 Speaker 2: So it it should feel different, it should feel different 1278 01:18:39,800 --> 01:18:42,280 Speaker 2: with Jalen Hurts. It should be like man he is, 1279 01:18:43,439 --> 01:18:47,479 Speaker 2: it's all he's on fire, right given what you know, 1280 01:18:47,600 --> 01:18:52,280 Speaker 2: what he has to to deal with. And so that's 1281 01:18:52,360 --> 01:18:57,519 Speaker 2: why I don't necessarily think, even though he's been there 1282 01:18:59,400 --> 01:19:01,840 Speaker 2: that in my opinion he can win a Super Bowl 1283 01:19:01,920 --> 01:19:04,479 Speaker 2: right now. Now, Like I said, it could be fluid. 1284 01:19:04,640 --> 01:19:08,640 Speaker 2: He could prove me completely wrong. He could prove me 1285 01:19:08,680 --> 01:19:11,800 Speaker 2: completely wrong. He's gonna have an opportunity to sure. Sure, 1286 01:19:13,800 --> 01:19:19,120 Speaker 2: But why know Jordan Love? You know what, Jordan Love 1287 01:19:21,400 --> 01:19:26,240 Speaker 2: outside of the second half of last season into the 1288 01:19:26,240 --> 01:19:31,519 Speaker 2: playoffs and this year, there is talent there, Jordan Love 1289 01:19:31,600 --> 01:19:35,000 Speaker 2: is good. But the decision making we saw it today, 1290 01:19:36,280 --> 01:19:39,599 Speaker 2: to me, there's growth. This still needs to happen there. 1291 01:19:40,880 --> 01:19:46,240 Speaker 2: And so the bigger the game, I think, the smaller 1292 01:19:46,280 --> 01:19:47,040 Speaker 2: his chances are. 1293 01:19:47,479 --> 01:19:50,599 Speaker 1: Okay, I love this conversation. Let's keep it going. Let's 1294 01:19:50,600 --> 01:19:53,479 Speaker 1: weave Justin Herbert into it as well. We do that 1295 01:19:53,560 --> 01:19:59,479 Speaker 1: next on Fox Sports Radio. Man, this is the second half. 1296 01:19:59,520 --> 01:20:01,599 Speaker 1: We've been with eight and four. This is it? Okay, 1297 01:20:02,000 --> 01:20:05,120 Speaker 1: five and a half to go, third quarter, washing it 1298 01:20:05,240 --> 01:20:08,360 Speaker 1: up by three. Bucks are knocking on the door. We 1299 01:20:08,520 --> 01:20:12,520 Speaker 1: finally have a close football game here in these playoffs, 1300 01:20:12,600 --> 01:20:16,160 Speaker 1: because it has been nothing but double digit games so far, 1301 01:20:16,360 --> 01:20:19,759 Speaker 1: but this one has that. Look, let's watch it together. 1302 01:20:19,800 --> 01:20:23,280 Speaker 1: We're broadcasting a lot Tirack dot com Studios, ti rack 1303 01:20:23,360 --> 01:20:25,439 Speaker 1: dot Com. We'll help you get there. An Unmatt selection 1304 01:20:25,920 --> 01:20:29,240 Speaker 1: fast free shipping free, road hazard protection, and over ten 1305 01:20:29,320 --> 01:20:33,120 Speaker 1: thousand recommended installers ti rack dot com The way tire 1306 01:20:33,160 --> 01:20:36,519 Speaker 1: buying should be? Can I ask you a stupid, selfish question? 1307 01:20:38,600 --> 01:20:39,840 Speaker 2: No, I have questions. 1308 01:20:40,120 --> 01:20:43,599 Speaker 1: Okay, great. So I have a one of the fantasy 1309 01:20:43,680 --> 01:20:47,240 Speaker 1: leagues in which I play has this rule that anybody 1310 01:20:47,280 --> 01:20:52,439 Speaker 1: you draft sixth round or later, you can pick one 1311 01:20:52,479 --> 01:20:56,880 Speaker 1: of them to keep them the following year. And I 1312 01:20:56,920 --> 01:21:01,439 Speaker 1: think I've got Brian Thomas in the ninth and Bucky 1313 01:21:01,479 --> 01:21:06,280 Speaker 1: Irving in the thirteenth. My man, what would you what 1314 01:21:06,320 --> 01:21:09,439 Speaker 1: would you do? What would you do? 1315 01:21:09,640 --> 01:21:10,360 Speaker 2: Bucky Irving? 1316 01:21:10,960 --> 01:21:14,120 Speaker 1: You would Yeah, that's because you love running backs and him. 1317 01:21:14,200 --> 01:21:16,120 Speaker 2: I don't know, because you don't know what the state, 1318 01:21:16,240 --> 01:21:17,880 Speaker 2: You don't know what the state of the passing game 1319 01:21:17,920 --> 01:21:19,280 Speaker 2: is going to be in Jacksonville next year. 1320 01:21:19,320 --> 01:21:22,360 Speaker 1: That's fair, that's fair. But I mean he went crazy 1321 01:21:22,400 --> 01:21:25,720 Speaker 1: this year with awfulness unfolding at the quarterback with. 1322 01:21:26,080 --> 01:21:29,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, but there's gonna be a lot of turnover. Things 1323 01:21:29,400 --> 01:21:32,479 Speaker 2: aren't going to be the same in Jacksonville that they 1324 01:21:32,479 --> 01:21:36,479 Speaker 2: were this year. But you know they're gonna handing the 1325 01:21:36,479 --> 01:21:38,799 Speaker 2: ball off to Bucky Bucky Irving. 1326 01:21:39,080 --> 01:21:40,800 Speaker 1: The reason I bring it up, by the way. This 1327 01:21:40,840 --> 01:21:44,280 Speaker 1: is his drive, This is this has been he looks. 1328 01:21:44,920 --> 01:21:48,320 Speaker 1: I mean, he is so good in between the tackles, 1329 01:21:48,760 --> 01:21:53,519 Speaker 1: outside the tackles in the passing game. Yeah he is. 1330 01:21:53,760 --> 01:21:55,519 Speaker 2: Uh, ask me that again. 1331 01:21:55,960 --> 01:22:02,440 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, Brian Thomas or never mind, never mind, what's. 1332 01:22:02,240 --> 01:22:05,200 Speaker 2: That one's playing today and one's than can kon? 1333 01:22:05,680 --> 01:22:10,640 Speaker 1: That's fair enough, although Ken Coon sounds nice. But anyway, 1334 01:22:11,320 --> 01:22:13,439 Speaker 1: the Bucks are up by three with an extra point 1335 01:22:13,439 --> 01:22:17,679 Speaker 1: on the way, and we've got ourselves a foot ball game. 1336 01:22:18,160 --> 01:22:19,799 Speaker 1: This is a good game, man. 1337 01:22:20,640 --> 01:22:25,400 Speaker 2: It's exciting. This is this is what you would expect playoff, 1338 01:22:25,600 --> 01:22:30,200 Speaker 2: wild card playoff to be. This is this is it 1339 01:22:32,240 --> 01:22:34,320 Speaker 2: all right, no matter how you no matter how you 1340 01:22:34,520 --> 01:22:38,280 Speaker 2: got into the dance, it's time to bust a move. 1341 01:22:40,200 --> 01:22:44,120 Speaker 1: Here we are, man, here, we are so okay, uh 1342 01:22:44,240 --> 01:22:48,160 Speaker 1: this has been a point counterpoint and the Bucks take 1343 01:22:48,479 --> 01:22:51,559 Speaker 1: the four point lead. We are going to be all 1344 01:22:51,600 --> 01:22:54,840 Speaker 1: over this thing as the second half develops. Stay with 1345 01:22:54,960 --> 01:22:58,880 Speaker 1: us right here on Fox Sports Radio. However, we're also 1346 01:22:58,920 --> 01:23:02,840 Speaker 1: having this quarterback conversation. And if you flip open a 1347 01:23:02,920 --> 01:23:05,920 Speaker 1: laptop or open up your phone, it's been a tough 1348 01:23:05,960 --> 01:23:09,360 Speaker 1: twenty four hours for Justin Herbert. Four interceptions I know 1349 01:23:09,479 --> 01:23:13,640 Speaker 1: you have all kinds of knowledge and love for the 1350 01:23:13,680 --> 01:23:17,880 Speaker 1: Houston Texans organization, so I don't want to diminish their 1351 01:23:17,920 --> 01:23:19,080 Speaker 1: phenomenal performance. 1352 01:23:19,120 --> 01:23:20,719 Speaker 2: Sounds like you're about to go ahead. 1353 01:23:20,720 --> 01:23:24,240 Speaker 1: No, not at all, Not at all. Yeah, No, Jamika Ryans. 1354 01:23:24,400 --> 01:23:27,120 Speaker 1: I love him as a coach. I thought I picked 1355 01:23:27,200 --> 01:23:29,080 Speaker 1: him yesterday. Man. I thought they were going to win 1356 01:23:29,160 --> 01:23:32,519 Speaker 1: that game, and they did. I didn't think it would 1357 01:23:32,520 --> 01:23:35,320 Speaker 1: look like that. I didn't think they'd win by three 1358 01:23:35,400 --> 01:23:40,479 Speaker 1: touchdowns and have Herbert, who basically was defined by taking 1359 01:23:40,520 --> 01:23:44,360 Speaker 1: care of the ball all year. Have this happened, Yes, 1360 01:23:44,439 --> 01:23:48,439 Speaker 1: some of it was off of receivers hands, But what 1361 01:23:48,720 --> 01:23:52,160 Speaker 1: is the discourse today in your mind for Justin Herbert, 1362 01:23:52,200 --> 01:23:56,400 Speaker 1: who now remains without any playoff victories in his career. 1363 01:23:56,880 --> 01:24:01,879 Speaker 2: Look, I still think his talent is remarkable. I think 1364 01:24:04,000 --> 01:24:06,439 Speaker 2: the disservice of his first three years in the league 1365 01:24:07,200 --> 01:24:15,160 Speaker 2: you can't overlook that. And I think Harball and him 1366 01:24:15,439 --> 01:24:21,559 Speaker 2: are going to be a formidable duo for years to come. 1367 01:24:22,880 --> 01:24:29,679 Speaker 2: That's God's understruth, I really do. And just imagine them 1368 01:24:29,760 --> 01:24:36,240 Speaker 2: having the level of receivers and running back that they 1369 01:24:36,320 --> 01:24:40,320 Speaker 2: had the previous two seasons, Say Mike Williams and Keenan 1370 01:24:40,320 --> 01:24:46,880 Speaker 2: Allen is there with Austin Eckler and John Harball. What 1371 01:24:46,920 --> 01:24:48,120 Speaker 2: conversation are we having. 1372 01:24:48,520 --> 01:24:51,839 Speaker 1: Well, that's an interesting one. I mean I would argue 1373 01:24:52,080 --> 01:24:56,040 Speaker 1: maybe we separate that conversation the running back and receiver 1374 01:24:56,880 --> 01:25:00,679 Speaker 1: deal because the receiver deal I feel like was by choice. 1375 01:25:01,080 --> 01:25:03,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, what they had to they were so far leveraged 1376 01:25:03,680 --> 01:25:06,640 Speaker 2: over the cap. They had to make some decisions. 1377 01:25:06,680 --> 01:25:08,920 Speaker 1: And they found one. They went and found another one 1378 01:25:08,920 --> 01:25:09,880 Speaker 1: in the draft. 1379 01:25:09,920 --> 01:25:10,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1380 01:25:10,360 --> 01:25:12,120 Speaker 1: Now McConkey, that guy can play. 1381 01:25:12,200 --> 01:25:20,120 Speaker 2: Now, just imagine having another one? Sure someone else? All Right. 1382 01:25:20,280 --> 01:25:25,040 Speaker 2: So that's that's one of those situations where we talked 1383 01:25:25,040 --> 01:25:27,559 Speaker 2: about this at the beginning of the season. What does 1384 01:25:27,600 --> 01:25:31,800 Speaker 2: success look for look like or for Jim Harball in 1385 01:25:31,880 --> 01:25:37,920 Speaker 2: his first seasons as a Chargers coach. This this is success, yes, 1386 01:25:39,160 --> 01:25:41,080 Speaker 2: And I think some people even were like, well, you 1387 01:25:41,160 --> 01:25:44,040 Speaker 2: win nine games, when eight game whatever that is. But 1388 01:25:44,200 --> 01:25:47,720 Speaker 2: the fact that you made it to the playoffs, you 1389 01:25:47,840 --> 01:25:52,800 Speaker 2: had a successful year, You won double digit games in 1390 01:25:52,960 --> 01:25:56,720 Speaker 2: your first year. That is a huge success. Now what 1391 01:25:56,960 --> 01:26:01,639 Speaker 2: can you do to build off of that? What can 1392 01:26:01,720 --> 01:26:06,800 Speaker 2: you do to your team to give you to be 1393 01:26:06,880 --> 01:26:12,240 Speaker 2: able to maximize the level of talent that Justin Herbert has. 1394 01:26:13,880 --> 01:26:17,280 Speaker 2: That's the interesting thing, and I'm excited to see that 1395 01:26:17,479 --> 01:26:21,800 Speaker 2: for them because I think obviously he can make all 1396 01:26:21,840 --> 01:26:24,920 Speaker 2: the throws he has been for the last since he's 1397 01:26:24,960 --> 01:26:26,759 Speaker 2: been in the league at more passing yards than anybody 1398 01:26:27,720 --> 01:26:30,160 Speaker 2: so far since he's been in the league at this age. 1399 01:26:30,840 --> 01:26:32,720 Speaker 1: Did that sneak up on you too? 1400 01:26:33,200 --> 01:26:35,320 Speaker 2: I know it didn't. It didn't, you know what it 1401 01:26:36,040 --> 01:26:38,720 Speaker 2: because I had been tracking that because look, I fell 1402 01:26:38,800 --> 01:26:41,880 Speaker 2: in love with Justin Herbert the first time he started. 1403 01:26:42,720 --> 01:26:46,200 Speaker 2: When the doctor had punctured Tyrod Taylor's lunge and he 1404 01:26:46,320 --> 01:26:49,679 Speaker 2: had to go out there against Patrick Mahomes and outplay 1405 01:26:49,800 --> 01:26:54,760 Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes and beat Patrick Mahomes, I was like, Oh, 1406 01:26:54,960 --> 01:26:57,400 Speaker 2: wait a minute, this kid is who is this right? 1407 01:26:57,880 --> 01:27:00,160 Speaker 1: Yeah? He was ready, He was already ready and. 1408 01:27:00,280 --> 01:27:05,040 Speaker 2: Not having you gotta remember not having any of the 1409 01:27:05,240 --> 01:27:09,920 Speaker 2: snaps with the first team, not having any of the 1410 01:27:09,960 --> 01:27:14,280 Speaker 2: snaps with the first team, and coming out and being 1411 01:27:14,439 --> 01:27:18,760 Speaker 2: able to do what he did. I was like, Oh, 1412 01:27:18,840 --> 01:27:24,720 Speaker 2: this kid is special. He's special. And so for me, 1413 01:27:25,680 --> 01:27:28,880 Speaker 2: that was that. That showed me what I needed to 1414 01:27:29,479 --> 01:27:33,240 Speaker 2: see from him. I knew that he was going to 1415 01:27:33,320 --> 01:27:34,799 Speaker 2: be special from. 1416 01:27:34,720 --> 01:27:42,080 Speaker 1: That twenty three touchdowns this year and are you ready 1417 01:27:42,120 --> 01:27:46,520 Speaker 1: for this? I don't know. Do people know this little factoid? 1418 01:27:47,800 --> 01:27:50,000 Speaker 1: He had more interceptions yesterday than. 1419 01:27:49,920 --> 01:27:52,360 Speaker 2: He had the whole year. Yep, the whole year. How 1420 01:27:52,400 --> 01:27:53,439 Speaker 2: about that all year? 1421 01:27:54,840 --> 01:27:59,040 Speaker 1: So I don't know. Man Like, look, it's it was 1422 01:27:59,160 --> 01:28:02,280 Speaker 1: not a good performs It was not a good performance 1423 01:28:02,320 --> 01:28:06,320 Speaker 1: by any stretch. The chargers got overwhelmed. They turned the 1424 01:28:06,360 --> 01:28:10,560 Speaker 1: ball over a ton. But at the same time, I 1425 01:28:10,840 --> 01:28:17,719 Speaker 1: get uncomfortable when it feels like the world is looking 1426 01:28:18,360 --> 01:28:23,960 Speaker 1: to discredit. So in other words, if and I don't 1427 01:28:24,040 --> 01:28:27,040 Speaker 1: know whoever's listening, if you like golf or not, but like, 1428 01:28:27,280 --> 01:28:30,559 Speaker 1: let's say you're playing golf. Okay, you play eighteen holes. 1429 01:28:32,240 --> 01:28:33,960 Speaker 1: There's some part three's in there or whatever. But you 1430 01:28:34,040 --> 01:28:37,080 Speaker 1: put the driver in your hand about twelve times in 1431 01:28:37,160 --> 01:28:41,280 Speaker 1: a round of golf, and the first eleven times you 1432 01:28:41,400 --> 01:28:44,920 Speaker 1: stripe that thing down the middle of the fairway, and 1433 01:28:45,040 --> 01:28:48,320 Speaker 1: then you get to the eighteenth and you slice one 1434 01:28:48,360 --> 01:28:51,120 Speaker 1: into the woods. What's your buddy gonna look at you 1435 01:28:51,240 --> 01:28:54,960 Speaker 1: and say, dude, you suck with that club. Wait what 1436 01:28:56,240 --> 01:29:01,280 Speaker 1: I do? And I get it. I understand that that 1437 01:29:01,439 --> 01:29:04,920 Speaker 1: you're going to be judged by your biggest moments. And 1438 01:29:05,240 --> 01:29:07,719 Speaker 1: and justin Herbert has now been to the playoffs twice. 1439 01:29:07,760 --> 01:29:12,000 Speaker 1: He's lost both games. The first one was an epic collapse. 1440 01:29:12,160 --> 01:29:13,920 Speaker 1: You can put that on his defense. You can put 1441 01:29:13,960 --> 01:29:17,479 Speaker 1: it on him too. And and and this obviously, when 1442 01:29:17,479 --> 01:29:19,880 Speaker 1: you throw more interceptions in your one playoff game than 1443 01:29:19,880 --> 01:29:23,120 Speaker 1: you did an entire regular season, I get it, that's embarrassing. 1444 01:29:24,080 --> 01:29:28,240 Speaker 1: But this parade that took place of like see told you, 1445 01:29:28,760 --> 01:29:33,519 Speaker 1: Herbert's not it. Wait a minute, man, he played this 1446 01:29:33,720 --> 01:29:37,479 Speaker 1: guy that was his That was his eighteenth football game 1447 01:29:37,560 --> 01:29:41,240 Speaker 1: this year. No, he has That's the what we were 1448 01:29:41,320 --> 01:29:47,559 Speaker 1: just gonna We're gonna define him by yesterday. No, I can't. 1449 01:29:49,040 --> 01:29:53,960 Speaker 2: Right, even the greats have stinkers. But look, I love 1450 01:29:54,080 --> 01:29:58,600 Speaker 2: him and hardball together, I love I'm so interested to 1451 01:29:58,640 --> 01:30:02,439 Speaker 2: see what this offseason is going for them in terms 1452 01:30:02,479 --> 01:30:06,080 Speaker 2: of building out a team that can compete and a 1453 01:30:06,160 --> 01:30:10,160 Speaker 2: team that can maximize. Look, his attempts per per game 1454 01:30:10,320 --> 01:30:14,400 Speaker 2: went down because we know what Jim wants to do. 1455 01:30:14,479 --> 01:30:16,560 Speaker 2: He wants to run the ball, und the ball. He 1456 01:30:16,600 --> 01:30:20,200 Speaker 2: wants to run the ball. That actually helped, That's why 1457 01:30:20,439 --> 01:30:25,519 Speaker 2: his turnovers were down. When you don't have to throw 1458 01:30:25,560 --> 01:30:28,400 Speaker 2: the ball forty times a game. You'd be surprised on 1459 01:30:28,479 --> 01:30:30,960 Speaker 2: how well you could take care of it. Right, he 1460 01:30:31,200 --> 01:30:34,880 Speaker 2: was right around you know, twenty eight twenty nine pass 1461 01:30:34,920 --> 01:30:38,200 Speaker 2: attempts a game that's perfect. He got them all the 1462 01:30:38,240 --> 01:30:45,759 Speaker 2: way to the playoffs and eleven wins. So the formula 1463 01:30:45,920 --> 01:30:49,200 Speaker 2: is there. How can they tweak the formula, make a 1464 01:30:49,240 --> 01:30:56,040 Speaker 2: little bit better and and you know, attack the season 1465 01:30:56,520 --> 01:30:59,200 Speaker 2: off of a success opposed to a disappointment. 1466 01:31:01,200 --> 01:31:04,559 Speaker 1: What if I asked you in the next three years, 1467 01:31:05,840 --> 01:31:10,479 Speaker 1: well that pairing Harbaugh and Herbert win an AFC West. Yes, 1468 01:31:12,000 --> 01:31:14,519 Speaker 1: I agree with you. I would take that bet too. 1469 01:31:15,600 --> 01:31:18,560 Speaker 1: I would take that bet too. And that's that's you know, 1470 01:31:18,720 --> 01:31:22,240 Speaker 1: presumably with a with a healthy Patrick Mahomes. 1471 01:31:21,880 --> 01:31:28,280 Speaker 2: Of course, of course. Look, look, you know the Chiefs 1472 01:31:28,360 --> 01:31:29,960 Speaker 2: have their own things that they need to work on 1473 01:31:30,640 --> 01:31:34,360 Speaker 2: and deal with. Sure, so you know, as as teams 1474 01:31:34,439 --> 01:31:39,640 Speaker 2: around you get better, you can't stand pat You have 1475 01:31:39,800 --> 01:31:42,560 Speaker 2: to be vigilant as well. For Kansas City, we know 1476 01:31:42,760 --> 01:31:46,200 Speaker 2: what the charge or how the chargers are trending. So 1477 01:31:46,560 --> 01:31:51,200 Speaker 2: that's where you know, we'll see what Kansas City looks 1478 01:31:51,280 --> 01:31:57,280 Speaker 2: like next week in the playoffs. Will Yeah, we've definitely 1479 01:31:57,320 --> 01:32:01,639 Speaker 2: had some questions as their on to the ten yard line. 1480 01:32:01,880 --> 01:32:05,680 Speaker 2: Just that fast, Washington. Yep, we got a penalty on 1481 01:32:05,760 --> 01:32:08,639 Speaker 2: the play. I don't know if it's coming back. We'll see. 1482 01:32:08,800 --> 01:32:10,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll take a look at this one. I guess 1483 01:32:11,400 --> 01:32:13,559 Speaker 1: some offensive linemen got their hands on their hips. They're 1484 01:32:13,560 --> 01:32:23,920 Speaker 1: not yeah, uh yeah. All right. So, speaking of those 1485 01:32:23,960 --> 01:32:27,080 Speaker 1: Houston Texans and where they go next week, I really 1486 01:32:27,200 --> 01:32:30,320 Speaker 1: really want to talk to you about not just the matchup, 1487 01:32:30,760 --> 01:32:33,240 Speaker 1: but the emotions of this for a reason that some 1488 01:32:33,320 --> 01:32:35,280 Speaker 1: people might not be thinking about. We'll talk about that 1489 01:32:35,680 --> 01:32:38,559 Speaker 1: coming up next to the MVP Bowl, also that they're 1490 01:32:38,600 --> 01:32:41,679 Speaker 1: calling it in the AFC. With me from Salama, Mark Willard, 1491 01:32:41,720 --> 01:32:45,120 Speaker 1: this is Fox Sports Radio. All right, we're live in 1492 01:32:45,200 --> 01:32:47,760 Speaker 1: the tyrag dot com studios. My dog. Can I ask 1493 01:32:47,800 --> 01:32:50,760 Speaker 1: you questions? Since you've been around football for a long time? Yeah, 1494 01:32:53,080 --> 01:32:56,599 Speaker 1: do you remember back in the day when it came 1495 01:32:56,720 --> 01:32:59,400 Speaker 1: to pass interference? Because by the way, Washington commanders a 1496 01:32:59,479 --> 01:33:01,720 Speaker 1: first and goal at the one yard line, they're down 1497 01:33:02,360 --> 01:33:10,840 Speaker 1: seventeen to thirteen. No, that'll be second and goal. Do 1498 01:33:10,920 --> 01:33:15,040 Speaker 1: you ever remember when pass interference wasn't called because the 1499 01:33:15,120 --> 01:33:19,479 Speaker 1: officials would say the pass was not catchable. Yes, they 1500 01:33:19,520 --> 01:33:21,160 Speaker 1: would do what happened that? 1501 01:33:21,640 --> 01:33:22,600 Speaker 2: Over your head? You know? 1502 01:33:23,439 --> 01:33:29,759 Speaker 1: Yes, what what happened to that? Anyone? Is that still 1503 01:33:29,800 --> 01:33:33,160 Speaker 1: a rule? I haven't heard it in twenty years, and 1504 01:33:33,280 --> 01:33:36,639 Speaker 1: I'll watch and this one was like a light version 1505 01:33:36,760 --> 01:33:41,160 Speaker 1: of it. But that ball, like Shack couldn't have caught it, 1506 01:33:42,680 --> 01:33:44,680 Speaker 1: and it was Pi in the end zone. There was 1507 01:33:44,800 --> 01:33:51,200 Speaker 1: definitely contact. I don't argue that. But you could have stilts. 1508 01:33:51,280 --> 01:33:53,920 Speaker 1: You could be that halftime performer at the Lakers game 1509 01:33:53,960 --> 01:33:57,320 Speaker 1: with all the plates on the gut right, you could 1510 01:33:57,360 --> 01:34:01,040 Speaker 1: be her. You're not really why is that interference? That's 1511 01:34:01,080 --> 01:34:02,160 Speaker 1: not a catchable pass? 1512 01:34:02,240 --> 01:34:04,839 Speaker 2: I know, but you in the obstruction of a receiver. 1513 01:34:05,000 --> 01:34:07,599 Speaker 2: It's now become the thing opposed to the ball being 1514 01:34:07,760 --> 01:34:08,559 Speaker 2: able to be caught. 1515 01:34:12,479 --> 01:34:16,280 Speaker 1: Come on, man, pass interference? What pass? 1516 01:34:17,479 --> 01:34:19,840 Speaker 2: Well, they're losing yards now, it's now yeah. 1517 01:34:20,160 --> 01:34:22,080 Speaker 1: Now it's third and goal at the three and you're 1518 01:34:22,080 --> 01:34:24,080 Speaker 1: about to lose their mind if they don't get it 1519 01:34:24,120 --> 01:34:25,760 Speaker 1: because they're going to go for it on four. 1520 01:34:27,400 --> 01:34:30,040 Speaker 2: It's almost picked. Yeah, I'm just kicked it. 1521 01:34:30,240 --> 01:34:32,599 Speaker 1: Okay, what would you do from. 1522 01:34:32,520 --> 01:34:36,479 Speaker 2: Phild goal and the fourth and at the fourteen oh 1523 01:34:36,640 --> 01:34:39,400 Speaker 2: five minute mark in the fourth quarter, as they're not 1524 01:34:39,600 --> 01:34:40,400 Speaker 2: they're going to go. 1525 01:34:41,160 --> 01:34:43,120 Speaker 1: Of course they're going to go for it. It makes 1526 01:34:43,880 --> 01:34:46,600 Speaker 1: this makes you get to the If you get to 1527 01:34:46,720 --> 01:34:50,439 Speaker 1: the one yard line, that's it. That's the deal. You 1528 01:34:50,560 --> 01:34:54,080 Speaker 1: go like, you just go for it until until something 1529 01:34:54,240 --> 01:34:54,920 Speaker 1: different happens. 1530 01:34:54,960 --> 01:34:56,400 Speaker 2: You know, you would have the lead right if you 1531 01:34:57,320 --> 01:35:00,280 Speaker 2: it would just kick, it will be sixteen seventeen. Yes, 1532 01:35:00,479 --> 01:35:03,000 Speaker 2: and then you get kicking to make it nineteen seventeen. 1533 01:35:03,520 --> 01:35:12,400 Speaker 1: All right, yeah, yeah, So fourth and goal from from 1534 01:35:12,479 --> 01:35:15,439 Speaker 1: the three and you got nothing and the Bucks have 1535 01:35:15,560 --> 01:35:20,880 Speaker 1: the ball. Damn got six, Quinn. Remember you said six 1536 01:35:20,960 --> 01:35:23,200 Speaker 1: point you wanted to put him in your pocket. Six 1537 01:35:23,560 --> 01:35:26,519 Speaker 1: You have six in your pocket in a four point game. 1538 01:35:27,040 --> 01:35:29,880 Speaker 2: Look, I'm not just saying this stuff. And that was 1539 01:35:30,000 --> 01:35:35,960 Speaker 2: two hours ago when I was mentioning this this. I know, 1540 01:35:36,200 --> 01:35:38,120 Speaker 2: I really know what I'm talking about here. 1541 01:35:38,360 --> 01:35:40,439 Speaker 1: I believe you. 1542 01:35:41,120 --> 01:35:46,320 Speaker 2: So now you've deflated your offense again as the coach. 1543 01:35:47,439 --> 01:35:50,320 Speaker 2: You've now taken something from them again. 1544 01:35:53,320 --> 01:35:54,800 Speaker 1: He went all the way to the one yard line, 1545 01:35:56,080 --> 01:35:57,840 Speaker 1: bright you and they got nothing. 1546 01:35:58,000 --> 01:36:00,240 Speaker 2: Do you know how hard at what most people don't know, 1547 01:36:00,439 --> 01:36:04,599 Speaker 2: but I put it in there. This is a rhetorical question. 1548 01:36:05,800 --> 01:36:08,439 Speaker 2: Do you know how hard it is to drive down 1549 01:36:08,560 --> 01:36:12,400 Speaker 2: the field in the NFL, get to the one yard 1550 01:36:12,479 --> 01:36:13,679 Speaker 2: line and get no points. 1551 01:36:14,400 --> 01:36:15,240 Speaker 1: It seems hard. 1552 01:36:17,000 --> 01:36:22,320 Speaker 2: It's without without even taking the points into account, Just 1553 01:36:22,439 --> 01:36:27,000 Speaker 2: to drive down into the red zone is extremely difficult. 1554 01:36:28,400 --> 01:36:31,360 Speaker 2: So many things have to go right along the way, 1555 01:36:33,320 --> 01:36:40,000 Speaker 2: and to not get anything for it a couple of 1556 01:36:40,080 --> 01:36:49,120 Speaker 2: times it is it's nerve wracking. And so I I 1557 01:36:49,880 --> 01:36:53,400 Speaker 2: know what that feels like. I'm look, I'm this is 1558 01:36:53,439 --> 01:36:56,719 Speaker 2: a real this is These are my my own accounts 1559 01:36:56,760 --> 01:37:03,000 Speaker 2: of when I was in games, especially on the road, 1560 01:37:04,240 --> 01:37:09,000 Speaker 2: When we got to the forty yard line going in, 1561 01:37:11,160 --> 01:37:13,599 Speaker 2: I would breathe a little bit of sigh of relief 1562 01:37:15,240 --> 01:37:18,080 Speaker 2: because I knew we were on the cusp of getting 1563 01:37:18,120 --> 01:37:21,200 Speaker 2: points no matter what happened. Did we want this touchdown? 1564 01:37:21,280 --> 01:37:23,920 Speaker 2: We want the six, of course, But as long as 1565 01:37:24,000 --> 01:37:27,960 Speaker 2: we got points, I could be like, man, we did that. 1566 01:37:30,720 --> 01:37:36,000 Speaker 2: Once we got to the thirty, that filling grew exponentiously, 1567 01:37:37,360 --> 01:37:47,280 Speaker 2: exponentially twenty ten five. The filling grows. If I don't 1568 01:37:47,360 --> 01:37:54,400 Speaker 2: get any points in any of those drives past the thirty, 1569 01:37:55,840 --> 01:37:58,920 Speaker 2: it has the adverse effect. What are we doing out here? 1570 01:38:00,920 --> 01:38:06,960 Speaker 2: There was no one open because there was less room 1571 01:38:07,120 --> 01:38:11,080 Speaker 2: to guard. Now that is a penalty where the linebacker 1572 01:38:11,240 --> 01:38:14,519 Speaker 2: just bear hugs the tied end. It sure is, but 1573 01:38:14,640 --> 01:38:18,280 Speaker 2: they're not You're you're you're not calling the play for 1574 01:38:18,439 --> 01:38:19,040 Speaker 2: a penalty. 1575 01:38:19,520 --> 01:38:22,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's like, that's the that's to me, that's 1576 01:38:23,080 --> 01:38:24,559 Speaker 1: baked into the risk that. 1577 01:38:24,600 --> 01:38:29,920 Speaker 2: You're you're opening yourself up for a subjective view of 1578 01:38:30,040 --> 01:38:30,599 Speaker 2: what happened. 1579 01:38:30,920 --> 01:38:33,560 Speaker 1: Sure, sure, Like I mean I could argue, as I 1580 01:38:33,720 --> 01:38:35,719 Speaker 1: just did that you got down to the one yard 1581 01:38:35,760 --> 01:38:39,439 Speaker 1: line with a pass interference penalty that is questionable because 1582 01:38:39,439 --> 01:38:43,160 Speaker 1: the ball was eleven feet over your head. So that 1583 01:38:43,280 --> 01:38:46,599 Speaker 1: worked for you and then it worked against you. That's life. 1584 01:38:48,360 --> 01:38:50,040 Speaker 2: This is if you if they let them get out 1585 01:38:50,040 --> 01:38:51,400 Speaker 2: of here and go down the score. 1586 01:38:52,760 --> 01:38:55,120 Speaker 1: Well that's the thing. Like I love the way you 1587 01:38:55,320 --> 01:38:58,320 Speaker 1: look at it, which is to think about this in 1588 01:38:58,600 --> 01:39:01,280 Speaker 1: in in the reverse view or the what could happen 1589 01:39:01,439 --> 01:39:04,680 Speaker 1: next card, which is to say, if the Bucks go 1590 01:39:04,800 --> 01:39:07,760 Speaker 1: get a touchdown here, well, now you're down by two 1591 01:39:07,800 --> 01:39:11,880 Speaker 1: scores in the fourth quarter and your host, yes, you're 1592 01:39:11,920 --> 01:39:15,360 Speaker 1: in trouble. You are in trouble if the Bucks and 1593 01:39:15,560 --> 01:39:16,080 Speaker 1: so that's. 1594 01:39:16,240 --> 01:39:19,479 Speaker 2: What if you take the goal and it's sixteen to 1595 01:39:19,600 --> 01:39:24,000 Speaker 2: seventeen and they go down and score, you're still only 1596 01:39:24,080 --> 01:39:27,320 Speaker 2: down by one score. Correct, that's what. I don't know 1597 01:39:27,439 --> 01:39:31,720 Speaker 2: what analytical software they're using, but the fact that it's 1598 01:39:31,800 --> 01:39:35,280 Speaker 2: not telling them that is burn the whole thing down. Mike, 1599 01:39:36,240 --> 01:39:36,759 Speaker 2: Mike Evans. 1600 01:39:37,400 --> 01:39:43,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, analytics software is hilarious because and it was Mike Evans. 1601 01:39:43,800 --> 01:39:44,840 Speaker 1: He got a first thame. 1602 01:39:44,920 --> 01:39:46,360 Speaker 2: He didn't even look anywhere else. 1603 01:39:46,880 --> 01:39:50,920 Speaker 1: No, by the way, the analytics software I've decided is 1604 01:39:51,040 --> 01:39:55,600 Speaker 1: hilarious because I've never not once when they go for it, 1605 01:39:56,280 --> 01:39:59,439 Speaker 1: does that little thing pop on the screen and have 1606 01:39:59,600 --> 01:40:04,880 Speaker 1: it say next Gen SAT say, dude, coach, you should punt. 1607 01:40:05,400 --> 01:40:09,160 Speaker 1: It never says that. It says you're supposed to go 1608 01:40:09,320 --> 01:40:12,880 Speaker 1: for it every single time. I think the next Gen 1609 01:40:13,000 --> 01:40:15,520 Speaker 1: Stats is just some dude with a fantasy. 1610 01:40:15,120 --> 01:40:19,439 Speaker 2: Squad has it. 1611 01:40:19,840 --> 01:40:25,000 Speaker 1: Wow, Oh that was yeah, Washington does have it at 1612 01:40:25,040 --> 01:40:25,960 Speaker 1: the twelve yard line. 1613 01:40:26,000 --> 01:40:29,280 Speaker 2: Doesn't matter. They can have it at twelve yard line 1614 01:40:29,320 --> 01:40:34,320 Speaker 2: and get no points. It right, we've seen this. We wow, 1615 01:40:34,439 --> 01:40:34,920 Speaker 2: we've seen this. 1616 01:40:35,600 --> 01:40:39,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is I mean, this game is exactly what 1617 01:40:39,520 --> 01:40:40,040 Speaker 1: I thought it was. 1618 01:40:40,160 --> 01:40:41,519 Speaker 2: We needed a little game tonight. 1619 01:40:41,640 --> 01:40:44,040 Speaker 1: It's a little lower scoring that I thought it would. 1620 01:40:43,800 --> 01:40:45,960 Speaker 2: Be, and lieu of the fires in the tragedy, we 1621 01:40:46,120 --> 01:40:49,000 Speaker 2: needed this level of entertainment. 1622 01:40:48,760 --> 01:40:54,720 Speaker 1: No joke, no joke, this thing, but the the emotional 1623 01:40:54,840 --> 01:40:59,240 Speaker 1: roller coaster that you're talking about is right here on display. 1624 01:41:00,160 --> 01:41:05,000 Speaker 1: And if I'm Washington and I get this fumble at 1625 01:41:05,040 --> 01:41:09,000 Speaker 1: the twelve and we take this seven yards and we 1626 01:41:09,160 --> 01:41:12,080 Speaker 1: kick a field goal and we're still losing, oh my god, 1627 01:41:13,640 --> 01:41:16,600 Speaker 1: I'm mad. Yeah you should be. 1628 01:41:18,360 --> 01:41:23,000 Speaker 2: It's as if we get to the thirty minute mark 1629 01:41:23,040 --> 01:41:26,280 Speaker 2: of our show and Steve p. Seger is like, I'm done, 1630 01:41:27,000 --> 01:41:31,599 Speaker 2: I'm not coming on, I'd be pissed. Luckily he's a professional. 1631 01:41:31,680 --> 01:41:34,080 Speaker 5: No, No, I'm not Tyreek Hill. I'm just aj Brown. 1632 01:41:34,120 --> 01:41:36,639 Speaker 5: I've got a book by just standing by. 1633 01:41:37,040 --> 01:41:37,439 Speaker 2: By the way. 1634 01:41:37,520 --> 01:41:40,920 Speaker 5: Two things for you. The uncatchable is still actually in 1635 01:41:41,000 --> 01:41:46,000 Speaker 5: the NFL le okay, I felt the actual term uncatchable 1636 01:41:46,640 --> 01:41:49,839 Speaker 5: is in Article three. It's talking about pass interference except 1637 01:41:50,360 --> 01:41:54,599 Speaker 5: when contact that would normally be considered past interference. However, 1638 01:41:54,720 --> 01:41:57,879 Speaker 5: the pass is clearly uncatchable by the players involved. 1639 01:41:58,080 --> 01:41:58,559 Speaker 2: End quote. 1640 01:41:59,200 --> 01:42:02,479 Speaker 5: Second, I agree with you on the why in the world, 1641 01:42:02,600 --> 01:42:05,479 Speaker 5: especially that first drive for Washington. Why are they going 1642 01:42:05,560 --> 01:42:06,479 Speaker 5: Ford on fourth down? 1643 01:42:07,320 --> 01:42:08,160 Speaker 1: I will say, at. 1644 01:42:08,200 --> 01:42:12,280 Speaker 5: Least on two points, I get it, because Washington this 1645 01:42:12,479 --> 01:42:15,320 Speaker 5: year going forward on fourth down was twenty for twenty three, 1646 01:42:15,439 --> 01:42:17,679 Speaker 5: which was one of the best fourth down conversion rates 1647 01:42:17,720 --> 01:42:21,680 Speaker 5: of the last thirty years. Kind of like Brandon Staley's 1648 01:42:21,720 --> 01:42:23,880 Speaker 5: first year with the Chargers he started, I think it 1649 01:42:24,040 --> 01:42:27,439 Speaker 5: was eight for nine converting fourth downs. I see why 1650 01:42:27,560 --> 01:42:30,160 Speaker 5: these people fall in love with it. I don't agree 1651 01:42:30,280 --> 01:42:33,519 Speaker 5: with said call, but I at least get it. Tampa 1652 01:42:33,560 --> 01:42:36,519 Speaker 5: Bay Bucks defensive back Jammel Dean, with a knee injury, 1653 01:42:36,560 --> 01:42:39,080 Speaker 5: has been downgraded to out for the rest of the night. 1654 01:42:39,560 --> 01:42:42,840 Speaker 5: Can I add that Washington defensive back Marshawn Lattimore has 1655 01:42:42,960 --> 01:42:45,960 Speaker 5: just been schooled by Mike Evans tonight. Tampa Bay's star 1656 01:42:46,080 --> 01:42:50,400 Speaker 5: wide receiver's been targeted seven times overall, has seven catches 1657 01:42:50,479 --> 01:42:53,880 Speaker 5: for ninety two yards, including a pass interference in the 1658 01:42:54,040 --> 01:42:55,800 Speaker 5: end zone, and then he got a one yard TV 1659 01:42:55,960 --> 01:42:58,880 Speaker 5: catch on the very next play. For the moment, the 1660 01:42:58,960 --> 01:43:02,840 Speaker 5: Bucks leads seven teen thirteen over Washington in this wild 1661 01:43:02,920 --> 01:43:06,040 Speaker 5: card weekend playoff, eleven and a half minutes to go 1662 01:43:06,360 --> 01:43:09,920 Speaker 5: in the fourth quarter. Yes, Baker Mayfield and company just 1663 01:43:10,080 --> 01:43:13,640 Speaker 5: turned it over. So Washington has the ball inside the 1664 01:43:13,760 --> 01:43:17,840 Speaker 5: fifteen of Tampa Bay, but they've been stopped on fourth 1665 01:43:17,880 --> 01:43:21,240 Speaker 5: down a couple times, so Washington is trailing seventeen to thirteen. 1666 01:43:21,439 --> 01:43:23,840 Speaker 5: The details on that very first drive of the night 1667 01:43:23,920 --> 01:43:26,759 Speaker 5: for the Washington offense, They drove down to the Tampa 1668 01:43:26,800 --> 01:43:29,720 Speaker 5: Bay twenty, went for it on fourth and two and 1669 01:43:29,880 --> 01:43:33,200 Speaker 5: threw incomplete. And then they turned it over on Down's 1670 01:43:33,240 --> 01:43:36,519 Speaker 5: early fourth quarter on a fourth and goal from the three, 1671 01:43:36,640 --> 01:43:39,040 Speaker 5: when they went for it and through incomplete to a 1672 01:43:39,160 --> 01:43:41,600 Speaker 5: tight end. So Tampa Bay at home is still in 1673 01:43:41,680 --> 01:43:44,719 Speaker 5: the lead. Bucks have won six of their last seven games. 1674 01:43:44,800 --> 01:43:47,720 Speaker 5: Commanders come in with a five game winning streak. There's 1675 01:43:47,720 --> 01:43:50,679 Speaker 5: another game tomorrow night, the Rams quote home game against 1676 01:43:50,720 --> 01:43:54,280 Speaker 5: the Vikings being played in Arizona tomorrow. Today started with 1677 01:43:54,360 --> 01:43:57,240 Speaker 5: Buffalo's home win against Denver thirty one to seven. The 1678 01:43:57,320 --> 01:44:00,280 Speaker 5: Bills nine to zero at home this year, Eagles nine 1679 01:44:00,360 --> 01:44:03,160 Speaker 5: and one at home after a victory against Green Bay 1680 01:44:03,280 --> 01:44:06,160 Speaker 5: twenty two to ten. The Packers fumbled the opening kickoff 1681 01:44:06,200 --> 01:44:09,920 Speaker 5: and Jordan Love threw three interceptions. The Patriots hired Mike 1682 01:44:10,040 --> 01:44:12,760 Speaker 5: Rabel as their new head coach. In the NBA, New 1683 01:44:12,840 --> 01:44:15,519 Speaker 5: York got forty four points from Jalen Brunson and beat 1684 01:44:15,600 --> 01:44:19,160 Speaker 5: Milwaukee won forty to one. ZHO six Sacramento won its 1685 01:44:19,240 --> 01:44:21,439 Speaker 5: seventh game in a row, one twenty four to one 1686 01:44:21,479 --> 01:44:24,679 Speaker 5: to nineteen at Chicago despite thirty six from Zach Lavine. 1687 01:44:25,080 --> 01:44:28,280 Speaker 5: Nuggets came from nineteen down to win at Dallas. Oklahoma 1688 01:44:28,400 --> 01:44:31,040 Speaker 5: City won again winning at Washington, or should I say 1689 01:44:31,200 --> 01:44:33,439 Speaker 5: Washington lost again? They lost six in a row. They're 1690 01:44:33,439 --> 01:44:36,800 Speaker 5: six and thirty one this year. Indiana won at six 1691 01:44:36,880 --> 01:44:40,840 Speaker 5: straight one at Cleveland, Boston, and Orlando. With victories, the 1692 01:44:40,880 --> 01:44:44,280 Speaker 5: Clippers and Lakers will each resume their home schedules on Monday. 1693 01:44:44,600 --> 01:44:46,800 Speaker 5: Coco Goff has won our first round match at the 1694 01:44:46,880 --> 01:44:49,840 Speaker 5: Australian Open. And hey guys, we might have a fourth 1695 01:44:49,880 --> 01:44:53,200 Speaker 5: down coming up for the Washington Collanders in the rest. 1696 01:44:53,280 --> 01:44:56,200 Speaker 1: Might we might have a first down for Tampa though. 1697 01:44:56,320 --> 01:44:59,639 Speaker 1: This one's gonna go to review. And I'm not sure 1698 01:44:59,720 --> 01:45:01,120 Speaker 1: who actually he. 1699 01:45:01,160 --> 01:45:03,720 Speaker 2: Has the ball down he had you show my god, 1700 01:45:03,760 --> 01:45:04,880 Speaker 2: they're going for I can't do this. 1701 01:45:05,320 --> 01:45:07,400 Speaker 5: They are from the five yard line of Tampa Bay. 1702 01:45:09,520 --> 01:45:12,679 Speaker 5: They're gonna get this one just because of all the time. 1703 01:45:13,400 --> 01:45:14,320 Speaker 1: Touchdown there we go. 1704 01:45:15,320 --> 01:45:18,439 Speaker 5: Terry McLaurin and the Washington Commanders have just taken the 1705 01:45:18,560 --> 01:45:21,719 Speaker 5: lead with under ten minutes to go. An extra point 1706 01:45:21,800 --> 01:45:24,800 Speaker 5: we'll make it twenty to seventeen at Tampa Bay. That's 1707 01:45:24,840 --> 01:45:26,719 Speaker 5: two TD passes for Jade and Daniel. 1708 01:45:26,760 --> 01:45:27,240 Speaker 2: Speak to you. 1709 01:45:27,920 --> 01:45:29,960 Speaker 1: If I've said it once, I've said it a thousand 1710 01:45:30,080 --> 01:45:32,439 Speaker 1: times more. Teams should go for it on fourth thousand. 1711 01:45:35,880 --> 01:45:41,479 Speaker 1: Are you alive? Are you still on this show? 1712 01:45:43,479 --> 01:45:44,439 Speaker 2: May or may not be? 1713 01:45:48,040 --> 01:45:52,280 Speaker 1: Gosh, that's funny. I'm still not convinced by the way 1714 01:45:52,400 --> 01:45:56,679 Speaker 1: that Washington shouldn't even still have the ball that Austin 1715 01:45:56,720 --> 01:45:59,479 Speaker 1: Eckler catch on third down certainly look like the ball 1716 01:45:59,600 --> 01:46:02,439 Speaker 1: kind of bouncing around on his chest and then grabbed 1717 01:46:02,880 --> 01:46:04,160 Speaker 1: by the Tampa defender. 1718 01:46:04,280 --> 01:46:06,559 Speaker 2: But anyway, I got to get out of here. 1719 01:46:06,600 --> 01:46:10,000 Speaker 1: Man. Alright, man, you want to like at least go to. 1720 01:46:14,120 --> 01:46:19,560 Speaker 2: I can't take it well killing me. 1721 01:46:20,640 --> 01:46:23,080 Speaker 1: I mean. The funny thing is is if they would 1722 01:46:23,320 --> 01:46:29,240 Speaker 1: just they've gotten two touchdowns, but they've also left three 1723 01:46:29,360 --> 01:46:32,760 Speaker 1: field goals on the board. So if they would have 1724 01:46:33,000 --> 01:46:38,000 Speaker 1: just kicked all of the field goals, that would equal 1725 01:46:38,800 --> 01:46:44,040 Speaker 1: fifteen points, and instead they've got fourteen. I don't know 1726 01:46:44,120 --> 01:46:49,800 Speaker 1: if that matters, but it kind of evens out sort of. Maybe. 1727 01:46:51,800 --> 01:46:55,880 Speaker 1: Oh no, I don't know, but it's pretty funny. It's 1728 01:46:55,960 --> 01:46:56,559 Speaker 1: pretty funny. 1729 01:46:56,640 --> 01:47:01,320 Speaker 2: Man, if you pay funny, nine are six more points 1730 01:47:01,360 --> 01:47:04,360 Speaker 2: to their total? Does it even out? 1731 01:47:04,840 --> 01:47:06,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, but they like twice they did it and they 1732 01:47:06,880 --> 01:47:12,639 Speaker 1: got touchdowns, so that's four plus four where they right 1733 01:47:12,760 --> 01:47:17,519 Speaker 1: where they gained that, so they breath. Then they lost 1734 01:47:17,560 --> 01:47:20,599 Speaker 1: a point, which is not an insignificant point. They're only 1735 01:47:20,720 --> 01:47:21,920 Speaker 1: up three instead of four. 1736 01:47:23,880 --> 01:47:28,439 Speaker 2: But you can't just I mean, you can't eat. You 1737 01:47:28,600 --> 01:47:30,120 Speaker 2: have gorge yourself. 1738 01:47:30,479 --> 01:47:33,559 Speaker 1: If they had kicked the field goal on the previous drive, 1739 01:47:33,640 --> 01:47:35,920 Speaker 1: then they'd be kicking off and there wouldn't have been 1740 01:47:36,000 --> 01:47:36,599 Speaker 1: this fumbled. 1741 01:47:36,600 --> 01:47:40,439 Speaker 2: That's well, you don't know. You don't know because they 1742 01:47:40,479 --> 01:47:45,240 Speaker 2: would listen, they would have been in the same area field. 1743 01:47:45,280 --> 01:47:47,120 Speaker 1: Tampa would have been out at the thirty yard line. 1744 01:47:47,479 --> 01:47:48,080 Speaker 2: We don't know that. 1745 01:47:50,040 --> 01:47:53,160 Speaker 1: Twenty what if they returned it for a touchdown? I mean, 1746 01:47:53,280 --> 01:47:54,599 Speaker 1: anything could have happened. 1747 01:47:54,880 --> 01:47:57,479 Speaker 2: But guess I'm just saying, guess what points are points? 1748 01:47:57,880 --> 01:48:02,320 Speaker 2: There's no speculatory nation a notion about points either you 1749 01:48:02,479 --> 01:48:04,599 Speaker 2: put them up on the board. Are you doing? 1750 01:48:05,120 --> 01:48:07,560 Speaker 1: But my point is that they just got seven that 1751 01:48:07,680 --> 01:48:11,960 Speaker 1: we can't assume that they would have gotten in that 1752 01:48:12,120 --> 01:48:14,519 Speaker 1: same spot had they kicked the field goal. 1753 01:48:14,640 --> 01:48:18,840 Speaker 2: No, they would have just been up. Yes, they would 1754 01:48:18,880 --> 01:48:20,160 Speaker 2: have just been up in the in the in the 1755 01:48:20,200 --> 01:48:20,800 Speaker 2: football game. 1756 01:48:21,280 --> 01:48:22,680 Speaker 1: Well, no, they were going to get No. 1757 01:48:22,760 --> 01:48:24,479 Speaker 2: No, I'm talking about if you take all of the 1758 01:48:24,560 --> 01:48:26,760 Speaker 2: points that they handed out, they would have been up 1759 01:48:26,800 --> 01:48:29,560 Speaker 2: in the football game. Listen, listen, Mark, let me take you. 1760 01:48:30,120 --> 01:48:32,160 Speaker 2: Let me tell you that the football game. Now, let 1761 01:48:32,200 --> 01:48:36,400 Speaker 2: me tell you this. Okay, listen to me. Man, I'm listening. 1762 01:48:36,479 --> 01:48:40,200 Speaker 2: You're not listening. Listen to me. 1763 01:48:40,800 --> 01:48:42,439 Speaker 1: I'm listening like I'm talking. 1764 01:48:42,600 --> 01:48:45,840 Speaker 2: You still do not listening. I noticed you're not listening. 1765 01:48:46,120 --> 01:48:47,000 Speaker 2: You're still talking. 1766 01:48:49,160 --> 01:48:50,519 Speaker 1: Go ahead, listen to me. 1767 01:48:50,680 --> 01:48:55,320 Speaker 2: When I say, when you're up in a game by 1768 01:48:55,479 --> 01:48:59,479 Speaker 2: one point or you're within one point, it changes what 1769 01:48:59,680 --> 01:49:08,360 Speaker 2: the posing offense does opposed to when they're up. So 1770 01:49:08,840 --> 01:49:14,200 Speaker 2: not only do you affect your team's momentum, you affect theirs. 1771 01:49:14,360 --> 01:49:17,760 Speaker 2: You're on the road, every time a team stops you, 1772 01:49:19,080 --> 01:49:23,960 Speaker 2: the crowd gets energized. Every time you score, you take 1773 01:49:24,040 --> 01:49:28,960 Speaker 2: the crowd out and deflate the team. That's all part 1774 01:49:29,040 --> 01:49:32,040 Speaker 2: of the game. When you throw that out the window 1775 01:49:32,120 --> 01:49:40,200 Speaker 2: and listen to analytics, you find yourself climbing a hill constantly. 1776 01:49:41,800 --> 01:49:46,479 Speaker 2: But there's no plateaus on the road. So this whole 1777 01:49:46,560 --> 01:49:50,360 Speaker 2: feast or famine, notion on the road and a winner, 1778 01:49:50,479 --> 01:49:55,040 Speaker 2: go home game is reckless and it's dangerous because the 1779 01:49:55,160 --> 01:49:59,080 Speaker 2: last thing you want in the fourth quarter coming down 1780 01:49:59,120 --> 01:50:04,840 Speaker 2: the stretch on the road is you haven't taken that 1781 01:50:05,560 --> 01:50:09,000 Speaker 2: team out of the game at all. You haven't taken 1782 01:50:09,040 --> 01:50:13,559 Speaker 2: the crowd out of the game. So you it took 1783 01:50:13,640 --> 01:50:20,920 Speaker 2: them to mess up. They fumbled, Bucky Irvin boof. It 1784 01:50:21,000 --> 01:50:24,320 Speaker 2: took them to mess up, not you eat them. There 1785 01:50:24,400 --> 01:50:27,759 Speaker 2: was a botched handoff between a quarterback and a receiver 1786 01:50:29,840 --> 01:50:34,599 Speaker 2: and you still couldn't move it. It took four downs 1787 01:50:34,680 --> 01:50:41,960 Speaker 2: to go what seven yards twelve or whatever? Yeah, yeah, 1788 01:50:43,920 --> 01:50:47,160 Speaker 2: so that's the I'm with you. 1789 01:50:47,520 --> 01:50:48,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you. 1790 01:50:48,439 --> 01:50:51,120 Speaker 2: It doesn't sound like you are. Well, no, I'm with you. 1791 01:50:51,360 --> 01:50:53,840 Speaker 1: I'm just trying to like throw out what Dan Quinn 1792 01:50:53,880 --> 01:50:55,600 Speaker 1: would say if he were sitting here as your co 1793 01:50:55,680 --> 01:50:58,519 Speaker 1: host tonight, he'd be like, twice we didn't go for 1794 01:50:58,560 --> 01:51:02,240 Speaker 1: the field goal and we got the touchdown, and then 1795 01:51:02,280 --> 01:51:06,760 Speaker 1: twice we gave the ball to the other team. Ooh, 1796 01:51:08,760 --> 01:51:11,519 Speaker 1: surprised there wasn't a penalty on that play. That's the 1797 01:51:11,560 --> 01:51:13,600 Speaker 1: first time I've seen a quarterback get thrown by the 1798 01:51:13,720 --> 01:51:19,080 Speaker 1: head out of bounds and there's not a penalty. No, 1799 01:51:19,200 --> 01:51:21,800 Speaker 1: I know, it just looked like that. No, it was legal. 1800 01:51:21,880 --> 01:51:24,840 Speaker 1: I'm glad they didn't call anything. All right. Hey, the 1801 01:51:24,960 --> 01:51:28,400 Speaker 1: AFC playoffs are all set, and there's two big things, 1802 01:51:29,560 --> 01:51:32,599 Speaker 1: one in each game that we need to talk about, 1803 01:51:32,640 --> 01:51:34,680 Speaker 1: and we'll do that coming up next with e from 1804 01:51:34,720 --> 01:51:40,000 Speaker 1: Salam Mark Willard and it's Fox Sports Radio. My goodness, 1805 01:51:40,080 --> 01:51:43,040 Speaker 1: this thing just keeps getting better. 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I bet Washington would 1814 01:52:08,920 --> 01:52:12,280 Speaker 1: have gone forward on fourth down, mayor I mean they 1815 01:52:12,400 --> 01:52:14,280 Speaker 1: had second in inches, third. 1816 01:52:14,080 --> 01:52:15,599 Speaker 2: And inches like doll. 1817 01:52:17,520 --> 01:52:21,320 Speaker 1: Who they botched that thing sideways. But then they took 1818 01:52:21,360 --> 01:52:23,280 Speaker 1: their medicine and kicked the field goal and we got 1819 01:52:23,320 --> 01:52:28,639 Speaker 1: a tie game again, twenty to twenty. So here we go, Jayden, 1820 01:52:28,920 --> 01:52:29,720 Speaker 1: four minutes to go. 1821 01:52:30,840 --> 01:52:32,799 Speaker 2: This is how you operate yourself. 1822 01:52:33,160 --> 01:52:35,120 Speaker 1: Let's see it. This is what this is. 1823 01:52:35,240 --> 01:52:38,920 Speaker 2: And look, very few rookies get an opportunity to do 1824 01:52:39,080 --> 01:52:43,000 Speaker 2: this their very first year. Sure to jump up levels 1825 01:52:43,160 --> 01:52:48,240 Speaker 2: in terms of lure. Right, C. J. Stroud did it 1826 01:52:48,600 --> 01:52:52,200 Speaker 2: last year? Right, you win a playoff? It wasn't this 1827 01:52:52,800 --> 01:53:02,720 Speaker 2: exact scenario. This is on the road, hostile environment, the 1828 01:53:02,800 --> 01:53:06,439 Speaker 2: balls in your court. Whatever you do or don't do 1829 01:53:07,000 --> 01:53:08,720 Speaker 2: will determine the outcome of this game. 1830 01:53:11,120 --> 01:53:11,439 Speaker 1: Here we go. 1831 01:53:11,680 --> 01:53:14,840 Speaker 2: The great ones love it. They want these the sooner 1832 01:53:14,880 --> 01:53:22,600 Speaker 2: the better, sooner the better. And so this is what 1833 01:53:22,720 --> 01:53:26,640 Speaker 2: it's all about. This is how you make everybody in 1834 01:53:26,800 --> 01:53:32,320 Speaker 2: the building look smart by drafting you. This is how 1835 01:53:32,400 --> 01:53:42,080 Speaker 2: you make everybody in Chicago scratch their head. This is 1836 01:53:42,160 --> 01:53:42,840 Speaker 2: what it's about. 1837 01:53:43,360 --> 01:53:46,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, man, yeah yeah. This is a difficult one to 1838 01:53:46,760 --> 01:53:49,519 Speaker 1: watch for them for sure. So here we go. Keep 1839 01:53:49,560 --> 01:53:51,559 Speaker 1: you updated for the portion of it that we've got 1840 01:53:51,640 --> 01:53:54,400 Speaker 1: right here. I do want to ask you one question 1841 01:53:54,560 --> 01:53:57,599 Speaker 1: each on the two AFC games that are already in place. 1842 01:53:57,720 --> 01:53:59,840 Speaker 1: We don't know what day they'll be played next weekend, 1843 01:54:00,200 --> 01:54:02,599 Speaker 1: just know that they'll be played. You've talked a lot 1844 01:54:02,640 --> 01:54:06,360 Speaker 1: about the emotional side of the game. The Houston Texans. 1845 01:54:06,400 --> 01:54:09,160 Speaker 1: The last time they went to Kansas City, CJ. Stroud 1846 01:54:09,240 --> 01:54:12,479 Speaker 1: spent about ten minutes crying in the end zone because 1847 01:54:12,560 --> 01:54:16,400 Speaker 1: it was the spot where Tank Dell suffered yet another 1848 01:54:17,080 --> 01:54:22,479 Speaker 1: horrific injury. How does that weigh on this game that's 1849 01:54:22,520 --> 01:54:23,519 Speaker 1: coming up next weekend? 1850 01:54:23,600 --> 01:54:30,559 Speaker 2: Now that's turned to momentum, that's turned to fuel. It's 1851 01:54:30,600 --> 01:54:32,960 Speaker 2: hard to emotionally at the time come back from that. 1852 01:54:33,520 --> 01:54:37,600 Speaker 2: But now that's come that, that's turned into oh, we're 1853 01:54:37,640 --> 01:54:41,800 Speaker 2: doing this one for Tank. Oh now you can feed 1854 01:54:41,880 --> 01:54:45,320 Speaker 2: all day. You can use that, you can use that? 1855 01:54:45,680 --> 01:54:49,200 Speaker 2: Is that is the right level of fuel unique going 1856 01:54:49,280 --> 01:54:51,800 Speaker 2: into this this divisional round of the playoffs. 1857 01:54:53,960 --> 01:54:58,160 Speaker 1: It's also a very very similar situation for the Houston 1858 01:54:58,240 --> 01:55:03,680 Speaker 1: Texans who were able to pull off a home playoff 1859 01:55:03,760 --> 01:55:05,960 Speaker 1: first round win last year and then had to head 1860 01:55:05,960 --> 01:55:08,400 Speaker 1: on the road to the one seed. At the time, 1861 01:55:08,480 --> 01:55:11,560 Speaker 1: it was the Baltimore Ravens. They held up for about 1862 01:55:11,560 --> 01:55:15,600 Speaker 1: a half and then they were overwhelmed. So now it's 1863 01:55:15,680 --> 01:55:17,600 Speaker 1: the same thing. It just happens to be the Chiefs 1864 01:55:17,680 --> 01:55:20,440 Speaker 1: instead of the Ravens. I don't know, man, what kind 1865 01:55:20,480 --> 01:55:21,400 Speaker 1: of a chance do you give them? 1866 01:55:21,440 --> 01:55:23,160 Speaker 2: I give him a chance, I give them a chance 1867 01:55:23,280 --> 01:55:26,520 Speaker 2: because although the Kansas City Chiefs are the Kansas City 1868 01:55:26,640 --> 01:55:30,600 Speaker 2: Chiefs and they'll always be in every game, they haven't 1869 01:55:32,080 --> 01:55:35,360 Speaker 2: blown us away this year offensively, No. 1870 01:55:35,440 --> 01:55:35,920 Speaker 1: They haven't. 1871 01:55:36,280 --> 01:55:39,400 Speaker 2: And they've been in some very precarious games in the 1872 01:55:39,480 --> 01:55:43,840 Speaker 2: fourth quarter where the ball literally quite literally had to 1873 01:55:43,920 --> 01:55:50,440 Speaker 2: bounce their way. So anything can happen, and that's got 1874 01:55:50,560 --> 01:55:52,840 Speaker 2: to be the mindset going into this. 1875 01:55:53,520 --> 01:55:53,640 Speaker 1: Now. 1876 01:55:53,640 --> 01:55:55,800 Speaker 2: I tell you what Washington can't do is they can't 1877 01:55:55,960 --> 01:55:58,560 Speaker 2: not get a first down, right. 1878 01:55:58,680 --> 01:55:59,280 Speaker 1: You have to. 1879 01:56:00,680 --> 01:56:04,680 Speaker 2: You need about three first downs, right, because if you're 1880 01:56:04,720 --> 01:56:07,240 Speaker 2: not going to score any points, you can't give the 1881 01:56:07,280 --> 01:56:08,840 Speaker 2: ball back to Baker Mayfield. 1882 01:56:08,960 --> 01:56:11,640 Speaker 1: Three first downs. It probably put them in a pretty 1883 01:56:11,720 --> 01:56:13,640 Speaker 1: darn close to field goal range. But I hear what 1884 01:56:13,720 --> 01:56:20,160 Speaker 1: you're saying it anyway, So it doesn't matter. It doesn't 1885 01:56:20,200 --> 01:56:22,040 Speaker 1: matter they go for it on fifth down. If they've 1886 01:56:22,040 --> 01:56:25,640 Speaker 1: given to them, who's the Who's the MVP of the 1887 01:56:25,680 --> 01:56:26,560 Speaker 1: league in your mind? 1888 01:56:31,880 --> 01:56:41,600 Speaker 2: Man? I really like it's a it's a very long 1889 01:56:42,040 --> 01:56:44,360 Speaker 2: long pause because there's a there's a lot of things. 1890 01:56:44,880 --> 01:56:46,680 Speaker 2: Whoever wins the game next week. 1891 01:56:48,200 --> 01:56:51,000 Speaker 1: Well, it'd be fun if they made it that way. 1892 01:56:51,000 --> 01:56:53,520 Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, But that's that's where I am at it. 1893 01:56:53,720 --> 01:56:54,640 Speaker 2: That's where that's where I am. 1894 01:56:55,480 --> 01:56:55,680 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1895 01:56:55,800 --> 01:56:57,880 Speaker 2: So whoever comes out of that and goes into the 1896 01:56:58,000 --> 01:57:01,240 Speaker 2: AFC Championship game, that that'll be my MVP. 1897 01:57:03,840 --> 01:57:05,520 Speaker 1: Did they vote though they already vote. 1898 01:57:05,560 --> 01:57:07,680 Speaker 2: I'm sure the voters already vote. I'm sure they have. 1899 01:57:07,960 --> 01:57:09,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, they can't take that into. 1900 01:57:09,360 --> 01:57:11,640 Speaker 2: No I'm talking. You'd ask me. I'm not them, I know. 1901 01:57:12,320 --> 01:57:13,760 Speaker 1: But just what if you had to vote that you 1902 01:57:13,840 --> 01:57:15,040 Speaker 1: had to do and it was due today. 1903 01:57:15,880 --> 01:57:20,000 Speaker 2: If the vote was due today, I would have probably 1904 01:57:20,160 --> 01:57:26,760 Speaker 2: given it to Josh Allen. He he's done more with less, 1905 01:57:28,400 --> 01:57:33,720 Speaker 2: more with less. Okay, he's done more with less. So 1906 01:57:34,040 --> 01:57:35,480 Speaker 2: I mean he doesn't have a Derrick Henry to hand 1907 01:57:35,520 --> 01:57:37,720 Speaker 2: the ball off. He didn't have to say flowers. He 1908 01:57:37,800 --> 01:57:40,560 Speaker 2: didn't have Mark Andrews like he you know. 1909 01:57:41,120 --> 01:57:43,480 Speaker 1: I mean he's got a James Cook and a Dalton 1910 01:57:43,600 --> 01:57:45,520 Speaker 1: Concaide and uh yeah, you. 1911 01:57:45,560 --> 01:57:50,440 Speaker 2: Know, Okay here those names didn't even sound right because 1912 01:57:50,720 --> 01:57:52,280 Speaker 2: it didn't talk about Dirrick Henry Man. 1913 01:57:52,840 --> 01:57:56,040 Speaker 1: I know, James Cook, I mean he got a hell 1914 01:57:56,120 --> 01:57:56,480 Speaker 1: of a year. 1915 01:57:56,640 --> 01:57:58,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, one I'm going to the Hall of Fame. The 1916 01:57:58,560 --> 01:58:01,400 Speaker 2: other one may or may not even right. That's what 1917 01:58:01,520 --> 01:58:03,720 Speaker 2: I'm talking about. The other ones and like it said, 1918 01:58:03,760 --> 01:58:07,040 Speaker 2: mark and go into the Hall of Fame. Okay, right, 1919 01:58:07,240 --> 01:58:10,800 Speaker 2: okay there, so there's three offensive Hall of Famers on 1920 01:58:11,040 --> 01:58:11,520 Speaker 2: that team. 1921 01:58:11,960 --> 01:58:14,680 Speaker 1: But is it overwhelmed by the fact that, like if 1922 01:58:14,720 --> 01:58:17,480 Speaker 1: you do if if you want to go by the numbers, 1923 01:58:18,080 --> 01:58:18,920 Speaker 1: Lamar's got. 1924 01:58:18,840 --> 01:58:21,000 Speaker 2: It by far. Yeah, but he didn't have the best 1925 01:58:21,520 --> 01:58:23,840 Speaker 2: last year and he won the m v P. Yeah, 1926 01:58:24,320 --> 01:58:27,840 Speaker 2: I guess that that argument. You can't use that argument. 1927 01:58:27,600 --> 01:58:30,120 Speaker 1: If well, you had better numbers than him last year, 1928 01:58:30,720 --> 01:58:35,880 Speaker 1: I mean quarter better numbers, quarterback numbers. Oh yeah, yeah yeah, 1929 01:58:38,000 --> 01:58:41,280 Speaker 1: who was like head and shoulders ahead of Lamar last year? 1930 01:58:42,120 --> 01:58:50,320 Speaker 1: Hold on, hold please, that's all I'm saying. Hold please, 1931 01:58:52,120 --> 01:58:57,960 Speaker 1: if I'm looking at I mean, unless you want to 1932 01:58:57,960 --> 01:59:03,440 Speaker 1: say Dak Prescott. Dak Prescott had a better rating than Lamar, 1933 01:59:04,440 --> 01:59:08,120 Speaker 1: a lot more touchdowns than Lamar, He had more interceptions 1934 01:59:08,160 --> 01:59:10,560 Speaker 1: than Lamar, had a lot more yards than Lamar. 1935 01:59:11,040 --> 01:59:12,960 Speaker 2: Who else had more yards than Lamar? 1936 01:59:14,080 --> 01:59:15,680 Speaker 1: Well, a lot of people had a lot more yards 1937 01:59:15,720 --> 01:59:18,640 Speaker 1: than Tua and Rock Party, c J. Stroud, They all 1938 01:59:18,720 --> 01:59:19,080 Speaker 1: had more. 1939 01:59:20,880 --> 01:59:25,320 Speaker 2: So you know, the right of numbers, you know, outside 1940 01:59:25,320 --> 01:59:27,960 Speaker 2: of that one game, which Brock Party was going to 1941 01:59:28,000 --> 01:59:30,320 Speaker 2: be the MVP except that one game did it right. 1942 01:59:30,440 --> 01:59:32,040 Speaker 1: That's also just passing yards. 1943 01:59:32,400 --> 01:59:34,760 Speaker 2: But what I'm saying is that one game did it. 1944 01:59:34,840 --> 01:59:37,960 Speaker 2: If brock Party comes out there, that game, brock Party's 1945 01:59:38,000 --> 01:59:39,080 Speaker 2: the MVP. That's all I'm saying. 1946 01:59:39,440 --> 01:59:41,720 Speaker 1: Very very possible, all right, that game maywell be in 1947 01:59:41,760 --> 01:59:44,160 Speaker 1: the middle of our show next week, so I can't 1948 01:59:44,200 --> 01:59:48,560 Speaker 1: wait for he from Salama, Mark Willard. Everybody, have a 1949 01:59:48,600 --> 01:59:48,960 Speaker 1: good night.