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Speaker 2: Look at this now, tip.

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Speaker 2: Oh do you want using will be luck? It's time

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Speaker 2: to bun. Oh yeah, get up, get going. It's Friday

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Speaker 2: in your face, hoole, It's morning combat breaking down UFC

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Speaker 2: Perth like nobody's business. Welcome in Friday, September twenty sixth

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Speaker 2: of the twenty fives. I am your Suburban Commander Commando.

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Speaker 2: Sorry alright, p Terry, It's Brian Campbell. I havn't direct

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Speaker 2: from the Hartford suburbs. The man next to me on

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Speaker 2: the screen is there in the nation's capital. He's fought

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Speaker 2: through the wars of technical difficulties. His middle name is Franklin.

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Speaker 2: It's Luke Thomas.

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Speaker 1: Everybody, Yeah, they just don't end. They don't end. I

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Speaker 1: thought I had it figured out. Yesterday's live chat went

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Speaker 1: mostly okay but not perfect, and then today was another disaster.

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Speaker 1: So I don't know what the fuck is happening to you.

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Speaker 2: You know, the thing is like how Irvin Johnson could

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Speaker 2: never shake off the HIV. I'd love you to shake

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Speaker 2: off these technical issues as part of your life.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know what, I thought I was going to

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Speaker 1: be able to solve it. So we did a bunch

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Speaker 1: of tests. This guy helped me out at MK talk

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Speaker 1: by the way, and by the way, there were two

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Speaker 1: problems and one he has definitely fixed, so like that's

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Speaker 1: the good news. But the one about the internet connectivity,

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Speaker 1: we thought, after troubleshooting a million times, that it was

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Speaker 1: and it didn't work this morning, so that means I

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Speaker 2: You know, I just love that you kept your composure

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Speaker 2: through it, Luke, you only yelled at oh, there.

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Speaker 1: Was a few bombs. Let's be serious. There was a

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Speaker 2: the man who texts too much? We'll find out there, Luke,

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Speaker 2: how is like your actual life over there in the

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Speaker 1: How Yeah, this is just just another normal day. So

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Speaker 1: But whatever, I don't know, Luke.

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Speaker 2: I know the best way to cure your ills. It's

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Speaker 2: a little track by the American rock band Creed called

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Speaker 2: One Last Breath. It seems to fix everything.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna say, does this involve me putting

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Speaker 2: It's not acceptable talk on this show today or ever.

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Speaker 2: It's topic number one. We're going to set the stage

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Speaker 2: for Saturday's UFC Fight Night in Perth. Let's do it

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no question about it. He's been literally through hell

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Speaker 2: menu here Luke. I had an interview with Don Reyes

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Speaker 2: Where would I be now? Getting through that was a

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Speaker 6: Yeah, the battle education, it's incredible. I've matured ridibly as

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Speaker 3: As a fighter, worried about every little thing. I'm I

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Speaker 6: So that helps with the mind to keep you from

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Speaker 3: It kind of keeps me at a level base.

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Speaker 2: Look, the proof has been in the put in for

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Speaker 2: thank you very much. In fact, we've got a graphic

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's very well said. And as we

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Speaker 2: I do understand what Olberg told me about not stressing

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Speaker 2: question about it. And you brought up that span lost.

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Speaker 2: Don't forget that was his complete reinvention opportunity when he

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Speaker 2: But before we run Reyes talking about the true stakes,

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Speaker 2: I just want to get your opinion. Is this, in

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Speaker 2: back the demoralizing memories of not only getting finished in

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Speaker 2: the vacant title fight against Blahovich, but not getting his

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Speaker 2: hand raised in that John Jones fight. When what fourteen

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Speaker 1: Yes, I mean, I don't know if you want to

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Speaker 1: quiz BC who was the last south paw? Because that's

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Speaker 1: what Reyes is, Who was the last southpaw that Carlos Olberg.

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Speaker 2: Faced no idea off the top of my donk.

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Speaker 1: Okay, the last one that I could find unless my

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Speaker 1: But to my best of my knowledge, long on the

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Speaker 1: the threat that Reyes is not even close. So now granted,

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Speaker 1: Olberg knocked him out very easily, backing up receiving pressure.

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Speaker 1: He's got that nice long guard, right, he uses that

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Speaker 1: But then the individual problem solving battle itself is high

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and the division's wide open right now. There's a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, full title applications for both of us here. You know,

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Speaker 6: A real signature win and I'm the guy I will

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Speaker 6: many fights the guys that beat may became champs, right,

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Speaker 2: Like sure, yes it's And I'm on the winning.

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Speaker 6: Streak, right, I'm a three fight winning streak, not just winning,

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Speaker 6: but finishing, right, I'm finishing guys who are ranked.

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Speaker 3: I'm finishing ranked fighters, you.

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Speaker 6: Know, back to back to back. So that's that's the thing.

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Speaker 6: He's on a fight winning streak. A little bit lackluster

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Speaker 3: Fights, but.

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Speaker 6: This fight, regardless of how it plays out, the winner

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Speaker 3: You know, Top three is interchangeable for title fights. Just

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Speaker 6: I'll wait. Whatever, you guys can fight, that's cool. My

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Speaker 3: You know. I'll hang out with my son and kind

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Speaker 6: crying all night long. You know, so well, you are,

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Speaker 6: like I said, it's God's timing, God's plan.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's all kind of seeming like it's lining

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Speaker 6: But we'll see. You know, I'm ready. I'm ready for

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Speaker 2: So that was the battle of the two worst hats

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Speaker 2: on the internet, right there, Luke. I hope I won,

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Speaker 2: You heard Dominic say that that term he doesn't have

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Speaker 2: to back victories over Yan Blohovich and vulcan Osdamir, both

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Speaker 2: Shouldn't he have deserved it after beating Blahovich, who stopped

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Speaker 2: dom reyis how do you look at how we frame

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Speaker 1: Olberg is good in a bad division and still with

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Speaker 1: having this fight they would and and the Onkalaia of

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Speaker 1: I don't know is that even controversial to say? I

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Speaker 1: right call by the UFC. I agree with their decision making.

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Speaker 1: Carlos Olberg won that Blokhovich fight by the skin of

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Speaker 1: he like stamped his flag. You could look at the

431
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Speaker 1: winds on his resume ABC and then the streak, and

432
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Speaker 1: then you could say, well, yeah, this is enough for

433
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Speaker 1: a title shot. Yes you could do that, But it

434
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Speaker 1: wasn't like, wow, he really you know, this was not

435
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Speaker 1: a sixteen hundred on the SATs exactly. So they're giving

436
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Speaker 1: him this because they kind of want to see, Hey,

437
00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:45,000
Speaker 1: is Reyes's redemption is this is this vaporware or is

438
00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:47,920
Speaker 1: this real? Or in the case of Olberg, does this

439
00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:50,720
Speaker 1: guy have enough to turn the corner? And Blhovich was

440
00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:52,600
Speaker 1: you know, remember he had been off for a long

441
00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,600
Speaker 1: time coming back. Reyes, on the other hand, is on

442
00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:58,040
Speaker 1: a hot streak. This is not a guy who's cold.

443
00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:00,760
Speaker 1: This is a guy who's running you know, the second

444
00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:03,920
Speaker 1: hottest or even maybe the hottest he's ever run. Right,

445
00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:05,680
Speaker 1: That's what we're trying to That's that's the thing here.

446
00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:08,400
Speaker 1: So they're they're trying to see what they have. They're

447
00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:11,320
Speaker 1: not sure, and they're not necessarily blown over by this guy.

448
00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:15,000
Speaker 1: He still has some grand opportunities in front of him.

449
00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:18,200
Speaker 1: But I think the UFC made the right call here.

450
00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:19,160
Speaker 1: We need to see more.

451
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:21,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you on there. There's one other element

452
00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:24,320
Speaker 2: to Reyes's backstory that I don't think he's talked about

453
00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:28,080
Speaker 2: as readily, and he sat down with our friend Denis

454
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Speaker 2: Dennis Scrototov. I think that's how you pronounce it right

455
00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:32,280
Speaker 2: from Yeah.

456
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Dennis scrutin shove.

457
00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:36,639
Speaker 2: From from our from our friends over there at submission real.

458
00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:39,240
Speaker 2: We love Dennis. By the way, obviously, here's Dom Reyes

459
00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:42,480
Speaker 2: talking about like some serious health setbacks that he had

460
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Speaker 2: along the way that he's put behind him.

461
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Speaker 7: Is a stronger testament to faith and courage and strength

462
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Speaker 7: and will and faith.

463
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Speaker 8: That perspective come to, like, when did you make that realization?

464
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Speaker 7: I think a lot of it happened when I was

465
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Speaker 7: living day to day with my defense on both this

466
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:02,879
Speaker 7: and my doctor said, hey, man, if you wake up today,

467
00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:06,720
Speaker 7: then good on you. If you don't, then well it

468
00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:10,920
Speaker 7: didn't work out. So I was living literally day to

469
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,159
Speaker 7: day kind of as all we all should really, you know.

470
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Speaker 7: And it was like very profound experience, like I felt,

471
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Speaker 7: I felt God, I felt, I felt his energy, like

472
00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:23,200
Speaker 7: he's one hundred percent real. I have no question in

473
00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:27,080
Speaker 7: my mind at all that this is only a small

474
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Speaker 7: piece of eternity. Like I had a very profound experience.

475
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Speaker 7: And yeah, I'm just grateful to you know, still be

476
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Speaker 7: able to fight and be in this platform. And then

477
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Speaker 7: once I win, and when I win or lose or

478
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Speaker 7: whatever happens, I can still shout his name on top.

479
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Speaker 4: Of the roofs.

480
00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:48,800
Speaker 2: Hey, you know, this is real momentum, this is real motivation.

481
00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:52,600
Speaker 2: Obviously Olberg's got a longer wind streak, but you've got

482
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Speaker 2: a guy that that you know, I said it to

483
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Speaker 2: him my interview. It I feel like everyone is cheering

484
00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:59,640
Speaker 2: for Tom Rays to get this done. I mean, look,

485
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Speaker 2: you've I've been the most vocal that that he beat

486
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,840
Speaker 2: John Jones and didn't get his hand raised. Do you

487
00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:08,640
Speaker 2: believe in mma karma? Is he destined to get back

488
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 2: in a title fight here.

489
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Speaker 1: I mean going back to what he said. You know,

490
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:13,560
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to be a hater, but I will

491
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Speaker 1: say this, none of that stuff means anything to me.

492
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Speaker 1: But it doesn't matter what it means to me. It

493
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Speaker 1: matters what it means to him and whether he believes it.

494
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Speaker 1: And it seems to me be see, he's not selling

495
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Speaker 1: something he doesn't believe. He absolutely you can just tell

496
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Speaker 1: he feels differently about it all. And you know, I'll

497
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Speaker 1: say this too. Maybe you got a different impression talking

498
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Speaker 1: to him, but I doubt it. I don't think he's

499
00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:42,360
Speaker 1: like happy about the losses in any way. I don't

500
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Speaker 1: think he is like, oh, I'm at peace with it.

501
00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:47,080
Speaker 1: But at the same time, it's not eating him up. Yeah,

502
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:48,879
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like he might be motivated

503
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:52,119
Speaker 1: to prove that that wasn't real or you know, a

504
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:54,000
Speaker 1: blip in the road, or you know there's a better

505
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:56,960
Speaker 1: future ahead. Uh, and that's that's but he's not like

506
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Speaker 1: consumed by it. He is not dragged down by it.

507
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:04,400
Speaker 1: It seems like he has found a way to really mentally,

508
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 1: find a way to use that as a useful experience,

509
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Speaker 1: even as traumatic as it may be. And I think

510
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:10,960
Speaker 1: that is huge as well. And to your broader point,

511
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 1: B see stories like this in MMA. I mean, let's

512
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:19,000
Speaker 1: be honest, if history if passed his prologue, BC Reyes

513
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:23,879
Speaker 1: shouldn't win. MMA is full of dude. How many times

514
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:26,639
Speaker 1: have you seen slightly different case but like, you know,

515
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,159
Speaker 1: a retiring fighter and they go up against someone and

516
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,320
Speaker 1: they just get eaten alive on their way out the door,

517
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 1: and that's the way of things. But you know, you

518
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 1: never look at that and go, Jesus, that was fun.

519
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 1: You're always like, oh right, there is no there is

520
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:41,479
Speaker 1: no happy ending like you just your heroes die the

521
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:43,440
Speaker 1: most you know, gory death on their way out the

522
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:46,120
Speaker 1: door of this kind of movie. So you just don't

523
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,160
Speaker 1: see stuff like this. Now, I'm not saying these two

524
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:53,119
Speaker 1: are equivalent, but B see this is reminiscent, reminiscent of

525
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Speaker 1: what happened with Robbi Lawler and Strike Force. So Robbie Lawler,

526
00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,320
Speaker 1: if you guys didn't pay attention, he never won to

527
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:03,880
Speaker 1: concessive fights his entire time in Strikeforce. This is July

528
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:07,120
Speaker 1: two thousand and nine to July twenty twelve, and during

529
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,200
Speaker 1: the course of that time he lost his first bout

530
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Speaker 1: in Strike Force. He lost his last bout in Strikeforce,

531
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Speaker 1: and as I mentioned, never put together two wins ever

532
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,240
Speaker 1: in that entire run. But he did put together a

533
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:21,200
Speaker 1: two fight losing skid during that as well. So it's

534
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 1: winning one, losing one, winning one, losing two, winning one,

535
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:26,480
Speaker 1: losing one. This is how it went the whole way through.

536
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 1: Then he goes to the UFC and he fights Josh

537
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 1: Koshtek and dude, he's off to the races that win.

538
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:34,920
Speaker 1: It wasn't just that he got a nice win BC.

539
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:39,360
Speaker 1: Go watch his body language during that win. He felt rejuvenated,

540
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 1: he felt alive again. I've seen something like this, BCEE.

541
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,439
Speaker 1: To wrap it all up, Rayes's situation is different in

542
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,359
Speaker 1: a few ways, and we both understand that. But you

543
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 1: just don't see stories like Lawlers where people are just

544
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,879
Speaker 1: kind of forgettable and then hit a renaissance kind of

545
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 1: late or you know, or whatever you want to call

546
00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 1: what rays is going through. Can he follow in that

547
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,280
Speaker 1: tradition and can you do something like that? We're gonna

548
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:06,120
Speaker 1: see on Saturday. But this is honestly a little bit special.

549
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 2: Yeah it is. I mean I'm maybe I'm romanticizing it.

550
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:14,239
Speaker 2: Maybe I like dom Reys, which I do, you know,

551
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 2: he seems like a humble guy that's been through a lot.

552
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 2: I also think Olberg's probably the better fighter at this moment.

553
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 2: I mean, I understand him being the favorite, but it

554
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 2: really plays with you when you're trying to make a decision.

555
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 2: So let's bring in our betting expert, Long Island main Card, Luke.

556
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,159
Speaker 2: You so you heard those odds here about a two

557
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 2: to one underdog is Reys. You know how good looking

558
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 2: Olberg is, You know how good he is? How are

559
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 2: you betting this for Saturday?

560
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 5: I went with Carlos Oldberg. I took him into parlay.

561
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 5: I just feel like Dom Reys. Yeah, he's on this

562
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 5: nice three fight win streak, but it's a little fluky.

563
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 5: Two of those wins came to unranked guys, third guy

564
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 5: being Nikita Krylov, who's ranked like thirteenth, I believe, so

565
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 5: he hasn't even fought anyone in the top thirteen. You know,

566
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:59,239
Speaker 5: Carlos Oldberg, you guys mentioned coming off that Blahovich win,

567
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 5: coming off the OZ Mirror win. I just feel like

568
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 5: this is that next fight he needs, and with the

569
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 5: title fight next weekend, it's the perfect all right. Now

570
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 5: Carlos gets the next title shot. So I like Tom

571
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 5: go see Wolves, but uh, you.

572
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 2: Know Older, I feel like Oldberg should should win this.

573
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 2: I would pick, I would go, I would play safety

574
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 2: here and go Oldberg by decision. How are you looking

575
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 2: at Saturday's main event?

576
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 1: One more time? Give me the odds one more time?

577
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 1: What do we have?

578
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 2: I've got him right in front of me right now?

579
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 4: It's two fifty for Oldberg plus two to oh five

580
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 4: for Reyes.

581
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 1: How many how many times has Reyes been the underdog

582
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 1: in this three fight win streak? Do we know?

583
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 4: Probably every time?

584
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 1: Well, one of the fights was Anthony Smith, so I

585
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 1: don't know if he was the underdog there?

586
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 4: All right, I can look this up.

587
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 2: Wait, in a finish here, Oldberg by decision is plus

588
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 2: five fifty.

589
00:29:55,760 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 1: Ooh, I gotta tell you, BC, I think Raya is

590
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 1: the better fighter. I don't really, I mean, and that's

591
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 1: usually what decides it. You know, what, how might go

592
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 1: ray is on this one? I'm the thing? Is this

593
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 1: like as long? Alan Luke pointed out to me on

594
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Speaker 1: the on the de private chat here, God, he was

595
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 1: minus two seventy five against Smith. Yeah, he wasn't an

596
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 1: underdog in that one. But Olberg is two and one

597
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,600
Speaker 1: versus South Pause in the UFC. But like the two

598
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 1: South Paws, and he did look good in those, you know,

599
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 1: it wasn't against Reyes. I think that Reyes, if he's

600
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 1: clever enough and he has a Reyes has an answer

601
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 1: for that long guard and the lead hand battle. And

602
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 1: I think it's really important going to the body and

603
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 1: mixing it up. You don't see these things, then he's

604
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 1: just rolling the dice, right, b See, you would agree

605
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 1: if Reyes isn't mixing up things where you know, you're

606
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 1: taking away some of the ways in which Oldberg wants

607
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 1: to fight, or is the places where he has key advantages.

608
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 1: You're just it's just Russian roulette at that point, right,

609
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 1: And I mean, and maybe he'll win that one, but

610
00:30:57,680 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 1: you don't like his chances. But if he's getting to

611
00:30:59,960 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 1: the inside, that's big and then clinching, making him work,

612
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 1: making him wrestle up, just you know, finding ways to

613
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 1: take away that game. I think this is his fight

614
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 1: to lose. You know, I think that Olberg is I

615
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 1: think Reyes is the better fighter. I think Olberg in

616
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 1: this particular matchup, is the more dangerous fighter. But just

617
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 1: for Shitz and giggles. Give me Dominic Reyes. I, you know,

618
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 1: I hope that he wins.

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm kind of with you on there. I

620
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 2: think that even though they're only eleven months apart and

621
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 2: Oldberg is surprisingly thirty four, I don't see him having

622
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 2: the same mileage on him or damage in over five rounds.

623
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Speaker 2: If we do see this become a little bit of

624
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 2: a war, I don't know. I mean, dude, you gotta

625
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 2: ride Oldberg here. It would be great feeling though for race. Look,

626
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 2: let's talk about sort of the negative surrounding this card

627
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 2: at large. I mean, it's not a deep card, but

628
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 2: not all fight nights are, right. I think that this

629
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 2: is better doing this in front of a live crowd

630
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 2: here on the on the western rim of Perth than

631
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 2: doing it in the warehouse. But we saw the Coalmine event,

632
00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 2: which wasn't all that strong to begin with, one of

633
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 2: the ten Tafa Brothers versus Ebo Arsland get get pulled

634
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:06,720
Speaker 2: from this card. We just saw Oban Elliott's fight get

635
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 2: pulled from this card due to injury last minute. And

636
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 2: now we've got that Australian news report that's been lingering

637
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 2: about the fact that the tickets not selling for this one,

638
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 2: and that tickets were dramatically reduced to about fifty percent

639
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 2: to try to fill out the building. Even at the

640
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 2: press conference this week with UFC International had David Shaw

641
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 2: running it. Heck, we saw some of the Australian media,

642
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 2: you know, pulling the Sean's detel and getting after it

643
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 2: so to speak, and trying to push them on whether

644
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Speaker 2: they're concerned about the lack of turnout from the fans.

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Speaker 2: David Shaw did mention the Australian Rules Football super Bowl

646
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Speaker 2: thing they got going on, but that's in a completely

647
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Speaker 2: other part of the nation. Here. Is it fair to

648
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Speaker 2: say that UFC is just finding their limits in this

649
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Speaker 2: era of jacking up the prices and maybe not every

650
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Speaker 2: time coming through with the kind of must see fighters

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Speaker 2: that people around the world need to see and is

652
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Speaker 2: at the time too. This is a ten pm Eastern

653
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Speaker 2: six fight main card that I begin that I believe

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Speaker 2: airs in the morning in Australia. How do you react

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Speaker 2: to this sort of sobering news for the UFC about

656
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Speaker 2: the reaction down there?

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Speaker 1: I mean, it definitely is not a sky is falling

658
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Speaker 1: scenario because if you're asking why is this performing or

659
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 1: I should say underperforming at the market. There's a few

660
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 1: good reasons for that that have nothing to do with

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Speaker 1: the UFC as a product. Right. So for example, there's

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Speaker 1: this AFL Championship, which is apparently quite a big deal.

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Speaker 1: I think there's also like the NRL Rugby Finals the

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Speaker 1: same day in addition on that Sunday, and this is

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Speaker 1: a These are massive sports there. I mean, just that

666
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Speaker 1: alone is going to make getting to the box office difficult.

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Speaker 1: Then on top of it, I think the Bank card

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Speaker 1: oct I think the fight it's the event itself starts

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Speaker 1: at five or six am local like insane.

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Speaker 5: Eleven am, so it's a twelve hour difference from us

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Speaker 5: in Perth.

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Speaker 1: So seven am seven am. Sure, so seven am starts. Still,

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Speaker 1: you got to get up at five, you got to

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Speaker 1: be there at six. I mean, you know these are

675
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Speaker 1: I'm exaggerating to a degree, but you understand what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: This is this is so that doesn't help. Then the

677
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Speaker 1: prices were high, and then there was card quality to

678
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Speaker 1: the point like for example, Steffi Hayes wrote this to me,

679
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:27,359
Speaker 1: this card has a single ranked fight that's the main event.

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00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:30,759
Speaker 1: It has fourteen fighters coming off the Contender Series five,

681
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Speaker 1: making their debuts. Eleven fighters are not coming off of wins,

682
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Speaker 1: and there's only one other ranked fighter on this card,

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Speaker 1: which is Loma Luke boone me in the actual prelim opener,

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Speaker 1: not the prelim main, the pre lim opener. And that's it.

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Speaker 1: Like the card quality is overflow. That's just what that is.

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Speaker 1: You can you can be mad at me for saying it,

687
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Speaker 1: but it's overflow. So on the one hand, BC there

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Speaker 1: are factors beyond what the UFC is about that is

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Speaker 1: negatively affecting this. I guess I would just say one,

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Speaker 1: my main takeaways are had a lot of competition. Two, however,

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Speaker 1: did the UFC not think about this, Like how did

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Speaker 1: they not know that this was going to be a thing? Three?

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Speaker 1: Putting it in Perth apparently is if they put it

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Speaker 1: in other cities on the eastern side of Australia, there's

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Speaker 1: a chance that would have potentially done better. But also,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to say this be see, you're beginning to

697
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 1: really see some cracks in the UFC product, and we

698
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 1: know that it's already tiered, but the appetite is really

699
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Speaker 1: beginning to buy fur Kate. Consider that Netflix they were like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we want your numbered events. We don't want anything else.

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Speaker 1: And and then the and there was Mark Shapiro from

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Speaker 1: TKO who confirmed this, this is a fight night, and

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Speaker 1: it's a fight night of unusually low quality. Is that

704
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:47,319
Speaker 1: a demand driver for the UFC? I would submit to you. Yes,

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Speaker 1: there are some other headwinds that they're facing and we

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Speaker 1: should note that. But like fight nights are like, it's

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Speaker 1: not it's not a it's not it's not a part

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Speaker 1: of the product that I think a lot of fans,

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Speaker 1: fans automatically can consider premium.

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Speaker 2: I agree with you on that, and I think sometimes

711
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 2: you have to look at the old Wikipedia page part

712
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:09,360
Speaker 2: of it. There are twenty six fighters after Obin Elliott's

713
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 2: illness not injury. Thank you Long Island Luke for that correction.

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Speaker 2: There's twenty six fighters remaining on this card, only ten

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Speaker 2: half Wikipedia pages. So that does say something about where

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Speaker 2: we're at here. And you know, I think we saw

717
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Speaker 2: this in the most recent UK card where the fans

718
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Speaker 2: were upset at the ticket prices and the lack of stars,

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Speaker 2: and you know, maybe this is what needs to happen

720
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Speaker 2: for a little bit of course correction for how they

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Speaker 2: charge and how they map these out. Hopefully as we

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Speaker 2: enter the paramount era, Luke. With all that said, how

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Speaker 2: many of these undercard fights are are you going to

724
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Speaker 2: care about? I mean, the best news is that the

725
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:46,799
Speaker 2: main event matters. It's worth staying up for. There's title implications,

726
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:49,759
Speaker 2: there's a good story. It's also a very even fight.

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Speaker 2: Short of that, though, what else we got here?

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Speaker 1: I'm pulling up my notes here, give me just a second. Sorry,

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Speaker 1: all right, So elsewhere on this card? Okay, First of all,

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Speaker 1: as I mentioned your opener, Loma Luke Booney taking on Alexia,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure I'm pronouncing it wrong. Tay Nara at women's straweight.

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Speaker 1: I like Loma's style, TI style obviously she is Tie

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Speaker 1: comes from a pretty good camp out there, and Bong Tao,

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Speaker 1: so I really like what she's all about.

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Speaker 2: And she's riding a four five wind streak loop just

736
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Speaker 2: to let you know that, all right, yep.

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Speaker 1: On top of that, I would say a good prospect

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Speaker 1: at light heavyweight is Navajo Sterling out of City Kickboxing.

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Speaker 1: Him taking on Judolpho Belato probably gonna be a fun,

740
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Speaker 1: at a bare minimum in action packed fight. There is that.

741
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Speaker 1: Certainly you have some names that you might recognize. Kolbe thickness,

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Speaker 1: Jamie Malarkney won't malarkey and whatnot. I would say also

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Speaker 1: Jack Jenkins has a bit of guy who have been

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Speaker 1: kind of high on, who's stumbled a bit. I'm curious

745
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Speaker 1: to see if he can write the ship against Ramon Taveres.

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Speaker 1: And you know it's up to you to decide how

747
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Speaker 1: much this matters. Jake Matthews, to me, has kind of

748
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Speaker 1: hit a ceiling, but it's definitely very much improved. Neil Magne,

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Speaker 1: you kind of know what you're gonna get, So it's

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Speaker 1: an interesting test to like where Jake Matthew is gonna

751
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Speaker 1: go at this point. So you know, there's other ones

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Speaker 1: you could pick, but there's nothing especially excellent outside well.

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Speaker 2: I look from a betting standpoint, where should people be

754
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Speaker 2: putting their cashola? I mean, what do they got down

755
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 2: there in Australia Australian dollars? What are we using there?

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Speaker 4: Australian dollars?

757
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 2: All right? Kangaroo paint chips? What do we got?

758
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 4: Nothing?

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Speaker 1: Nah?

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Speaker 5: I want to give a shout out first of all

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Speaker 5: to the Aussie versus the Long Islander to open the

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Speaker 5: main car. Tom Nolan versus Charlie Campbell, b se your cousin,

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Speaker 5: Charlie Campbell.

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Speaker 4: That's an exciting if.

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Speaker 1: The Long Islander wins, are you gonna punch your dad

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Speaker 1: in the stomach?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I will.

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Speaker 5: You're talking about dogs to take. I feel like Charlie

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Speaker 5: Campbell's a live dog there. He was sitting at plus

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Speaker 5: one twenty four. Last I looked, Luke, you mentioned that

771
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Speaker 5: Jake Matthews Neil Magni fight. What do you think the

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Speaker 5: odds are on that top.

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Speaker 4: Of your head?

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Speaker 1: Jake Matthews minus.

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Speaker 4: Jake Matthews is like minus four point fifty.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so I do think there's some value on Neil

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Speaker 5: Magne with the spread. I'll say maybe he could win

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00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:59,840
Speaker 5: around here, two rounds something like that. Jake Matthews probably

780
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Speaker 5: his fight, but he does not deserve that big of

781
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Speaker 5: a price tag.

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Speaker 1: I definitely would pick Jack Matthews to win, but that

783
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Speaker 1: is a big price tag. Guy.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: And then one fight.

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Speaker 5: We didn't mention Cameron Rouston coming off Contender Series. He's

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Speaker 5: actually fought on Contenter Series twice. He lost to Teres

788
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Speaker 5: Finny last year. Forget who he beat this year, but

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Speaker 5: it was a couple of weeks ago. It's taking on

790
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Speaker 5: Andre Petrowski Petrowski coming or going. He's a good wrestler,

791
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Speaker 5: he's thirty five years old, did lose his last fight.

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Speaker 4: Rouston struggles against wrestlers.

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Speaker 1: Well, you are reaching into a level of MMA that is.

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Speaker 4: It's perst part it's Australia.

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Speaker 2: Let's go, baby, Yeah, let's go. This one's for Luke's dad. Okay,

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Speaker 2: that horn basket, now you're a guy. That guy has

797
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Speaker 2: number two Coming at You. It was a little bit

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Speaker 2: of a whirlwind media tour with stops in New York

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Speaker 2: stops in Miami, which is the new home for the Friday,

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Speaker 2: November fourteenth Netflix super fight between Jake Paul Dravante Davis

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Speaker 2: and the sixty six pound weight difference between them. They

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Speaker 2: had this media tour, they had a ticket pre sale

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Speaker 2: out there. Did it improve anyone's opinion though of what

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Speaker 2: this fight will be? We have big names, we have

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Speaker 2: an even bigger size difference, and we had a lot

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Speaker 2: of eye catching moments from Tank Davis where it either

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Speaker 2: looked like he was uninterested. I don't really know what

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Speaker 2: to say here, so, Luke, while it's really early, is

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Speaker 2: the unusualness of this fight going to hurt its ultimate

839
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Speaker 2: viewership in sales? Or is this freak show factor here

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Speaker 2: to slayh big in the ratings whether we support it,

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Speaker 2: whether we want it or not.

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Speaker 1: I believe it or not for today's show. I actually

843
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Speaker 1: rewatched one of the pressers now on one point five speed,

844
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Speaker 1: but I watched it. I still think that there's good

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Speaker 1: reason to think just in the end, it's going to

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Speaker 1: do really well as a promotional attraction, right PC. Also,

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Speaker 1: I have a big question for you, but first time

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Speaker 1: explain why. I mean, I do think that they're at

849
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:39,759
Speaker 1: the Casia Center and it's not a stadium, they'll they

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Speaker 1: just have to fill it in an arena. I suspect

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Speaker 1: they'll be able to do it. I mean, we'll, you know,

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Speaker 1: we'll see, but I'm not that's of all my concerns,

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00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 1: that's probably the least of them. And of course it's

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Speaker 1: you know, free for subscribers essentially on Netflix. And we've

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Speaker 1: talked about this before. Does the combined star power of

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Speaker 1: Javonte Davis plus Jake Paul exceed that of Canela alvers

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Speaker 1: versus Bud Crawford. And you might say Bud Crawford now

858
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 1: is kind of broken through to a degree, and that's true,

859
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 1: but I'm talking about pre fight, right, that's of the

860
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 1: two equivalent measurements, and I would argue that Jake Paul

861
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 1: versus Davante is bigger, and so therefore you should at

862
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:12,279
Speaker 1: least be able to match the forty one million, whatever

863
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:13,839
Speaker 1: you would think of that figure, or you know, because

864
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 1: remember he did one hundred one million with Mike. I

865
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 1: don't think he can do that, but he should be

866
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 1: able to potentially meet or exceed Canelo. But then you

867
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 1: have to ask yourself, It's like, well, okay, but if

868
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 1: Davante's showing up to these things half interested and the

869
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:28,319
Speaker 1: vibe is really weird and it just looks weird, to

870
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 1: what extent is that an interest to the audience are

871
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 1: trying to attract, And to what extent is that a

872
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:36,279
Speaker 1: deterrent because they're not looking for hardcore boxing fans. That's

873
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 1: not who this fight is meant to appeal to. This

874
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:40,359
Speaker 1: fight is meant to appeal to a broader audience of

875
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 1: like pop culture fans, and that's what is happening here.

876
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 1: This is a pop culture fight for pop culture people.

877
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 1: Are they going to be interested in a world where

878
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 1: Jervonte looks unmotivated? And you know, the stuff that Jake does,

879
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 1: to me is not very interesting to be see. But

880
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 1: at least he's trying, you know what I mean, Yeah,

881
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 1: he's trying to do stuff. He's like manufacturing things, and

882
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 1: you know, it's all a bunch of lowbrow stuff, but

883
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:11,239
Speaker 1: it's something. And you're just not seeing really that kind

884
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 1: of response from Dravante at all, So you have to

885
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:16,479
Speaker 1: ask yourself, like, what effect will this have? I guess

886
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:19,399
Speaker 1: my thought in the end is it's not in any

887
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:21,840
Speaker 1: way fatal enough to not get people hyped or to

888
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 1: deter them ultimately. I mean, hell, they wanted to see

889
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 1: Mike Tyson and he was bordering on aarp eligibility. But

890
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:33,320
Speaker 1: I do wonder like how this might muddy the waters

891
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:35,239
Speaker 1: a little bit in terms of both the hallow to

892
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 1: be received beforehand and then certainly afterwards as well.

893
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I feel like we're at the end

894
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:42,880
Speaker 2: of days of these carnival crossovers. Remember the Mike Tyson

895
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 2: fight was four years removed from Tyson last fighting when

896
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:49,440
Speaker 2: he fought Roy Jones in that twenty twenty exhibition. But

897
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:51,719
Speaker 2: that thing slayed on pay per view. I mean, in

898
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:54,240
Speaker 2: a time of illegal streaming, it did over a million

899
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 2: and a half buys. It also showed like a Tyson

900
00:44:57,000 --> 00:45:00,279
Speaker 2: who somehow still had it. That's not the same Mike

901
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 2: Tyson who showed up four years later. And you know,

902
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 2: Jake could have his lawyers listening to the show, but

903
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:07,839
Speaker 2: there obviously was an agreement there not to send Mike

904
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 2: Tyson to Hell. I think that killed a lot of

905
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:13,280
Speaker 2: the Jake momentum of why we care about these because

906
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:15,920
Speaker 2: you got Jake constantly saying that he's gonna fight for

907
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 2: a title, or fight Anthony Joshua, or fight at Canelo.

908
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:22,439
Speaker 2: Yet who is he ultimately fighting a Chavez junior who

909
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 2: didn't give a damn until the final round, and then

910
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 2: he got deported of all things, and now a guy

911
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:32,439
Speaker 2: who's this short, this much smaller than him and wait,

912
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:34,719
Speaker 2: and I think the key thing that we took from

913
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:37,799
Speaker 2: these two pressors, particularly the New York one Z Tank

914
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 2: does not look like he wants to be there under

915
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 2: any circumstance at all. So, dude, I hate this. I

916
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:48,360
Speaker 2: hate this. I hope somebody gets ill and it falls apart,

917
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Like, I'm really at that point.

918
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:52,880
Speaker 2: I think it's almost horrible for both of their arcs.

919
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:55,280
Speaker 2: I almost think it's horrible if it does well, because

920
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 2: I'm just I'm done with these. Maybe it's the hangover

921
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 2: of actually seeing history and greatness with Canello Crawford done

922
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 2: literally at the highest level in a stadium on Netflix.

923
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:09,359
Speaker 2: It's not that I'm saying, like Jake be done. You've

924
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:11,239
Speaker 2: done nothing good in boxing. I mean, we've given Jake

925
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:15,560
Speaker 2: the requisite flowers, but I'm sick of this. So officially,

926
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:19,279
Speaker 2: the rules will be an exhibition fight. Ten rounds, three

927
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 2: minute rounds. There's an argument going on about the gloves.

928
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:24,799
Speaker 2: I think it was twelve ounces is what they signed to.

929
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 2: But Dravonte's coach, Calvin Ford, the Miami Presser of which

930
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:29,840
Speaker 2: By the way, there was like four people in the crowd.

931
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 2: He's arguing that they want to go down to ten

932
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:35,239
Speaker 2: or eight. You had Jervonte arguing in the New York

933
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 2: conference about the way, saying, I didn't agree to one

934
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 2: ninety five. Catchwaight, I agreed to one to ninety So

935
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:45,880
Speaker 2: technically it's an exhibition. So will you get a full

936
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:47,919
Speaker 2: on fight? Do we even want a full on fight?

937
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:50,279
Speaker 2: I mean, you know you would for the freak show

938
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 2: entertainment of it, but this just feels ill timed and

939
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:57,319
Speaker 2: wrong and like really obvious ways, you know what I'm saying.

940
00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 2: Let's see the size disparity between them during one of

941
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 2: their face offs. This is New York. This is where

942
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 2: Tank was just like, yeah, I don't want to be here.

943
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 2: I mean, look, you've covered Tank a lot, We've interviewed

944
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:11,840
Speaker 2: him at length. He's always a little bit laid back.

945
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:13,880
Speaker 2: But are you getting that same sense that he's like,

946
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 2: what am I? What did I sign up for?

947
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 3: Here?

948
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:21,239
Speaker 1: Also, I just you know, it's clear he doesn't take

949
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 1: Jake Paul seriously, and it's like in a way where

950
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 1: you're like, yeah, I mean we don't either, But then

951
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 1: you signed to fight him and he just seems like,

952
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 1: I don't know, it seems like he agreed to fight

953
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 1: like his little brother, and he just doesn't know how

954
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:36,400
Speaker 1: to act around someone who's willing to make fart noises

955
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:38,719
Speaker 1: with their armpits, you know what I mean. It's kind

956
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 1: of what. He just seems like he's a little bit

957
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:44,360
Speaker 1: lost in this circus world where MMA fighters who are

958
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:45,800
Speaker 1: a little bit more used to. I mean, boxing is

959
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:47,720
Speaker 1: a circus too, but it's a different kind of circus,

960
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:50,759
Speaker 1: and this kind of thing he's just not as used to.

961
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 1: I gotta say, BC, isn't it unbelievable that we were

962
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:55,920
Speaker 1: just like, man, we can't believe that, you know, MMA

963
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:58,439
Speaker 1: fighters would war themselves out like this for a check

964
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:01,279
Speaker 1: that they basically can't get in boxing. And then you've

965
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:04,759
Speaker 1: got Dravante, who is not underpaid. This is not a

966
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:07,920
Speaker 1: guy who, inside of boxing, has ever been underpaid. And

967
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:11,720
Speaker 1: now he is also houring himself out for this absurd

968
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:13,759
Speaker 1: exercise in a way that we thought, oh no, because

969
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:15,759
Speaker 1: those guys make so much in boxing, they would never

970
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:18,839
Speaker 1: do this. Turns out they would. They would.

971
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 2: On that topic, Luke, you know, I had heard rumors

972
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:26,160
Speaker 2: that Gervante actually wanted to fight Lamont Roach Junior, but

973
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:27,799
Speaker 2: they couldn't get the money to pull off that pap

974
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:29,960
Speaker 2: per view. I'm not sure if they're substantiated. I'm not

975
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 2: on the inside with PBC, even though I do call

976
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 2: a good deal of their fights. I thought it was

977
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 2: weird that when Tank was asked by Brian Custer with

978
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:39,839
Speaker 2: the first question of the Miami Pretz conference about why

979
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 2: are you not fighting Roach, that Tank was sort of like, well,

980
00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 2: I can't really get into it, but I had to

981
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:48,759
Speaker 2: make this decision for my career. And I don't know

982
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 2: if you saw on Tim Bradley's YouTube channel, he put

983
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 2: like a fifteen minute ran in which he tore Jake

984
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:57,279
Speaker 2: Paul up and down. But within that rant, he basically

985
00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:01,400
Speaker 2: is accusing PBC of forcing Dravante into this fight to

986
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:04,640
Speaker 2: help them along financially. I don't know if any of

987
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:07,959
Speaker 2: this is true, but could that factor into this all?

988
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:10,719
Speaker 2: Because I don't feel like Tank wants this what we're

989
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:13,279
Speaker 2: watching here. I don't feel like he's reveling in the

990
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 2: fact that he's going to get a potential easy payday,

991
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 2: or that he's facing some kind of danger here against

992
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 2: a bigger man. I almost feel like he's just going

993
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:22,359
Speaker 2: along with it.

994
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, if that's the reasoning that they can't

995
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 1: do this or that that excuse me that they are

996
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:31,279
Speaker 1: going through with it, that this is ultimately just some

997
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:38,840
Speaker 1: kind of financial support plan, I mean, then yeah, yeah,

998
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:41,880
Speaker 1: you know you do. It's unbelievable Jake Paul and Saudi

999
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 1: Arabia have Boxing by the Balls. Could you ever imagine

1000
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 1: that ten years ago? It's one of the most insane

1001
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 1: things to even think about. Twenty fifteen, Jake Paul, Jake

1002
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:52,839
Speaker 1: Paul and Saudi Arabia are going to have this game

1003
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 1: by the balls. It's it's just absurd to even consider.

1004
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:57,279
Speaker 1: But it's where we are. But I did have a

1005
00:49:57,320 --> 00:49:59,759
Speaker 1: question for you, which is it's sort of well known,

1006
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:04,400
Speaker 1: like what led to the decline of Japanese MMA. Obviously

1007
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 1: it has rebounded some now, and I'm talking about, you know,

1008
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 1: the Fall of Pride and thereafter it went through some

1009
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:12,799
Speaker 1: dark times. I'm old enough, you know this is gonna

1010
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:15,920
Speaker 1: sound insane, But like when I was into MMA right

1011
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 1: after college, I mean, obviously watching before, but I you know,

1012
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:20,680
Speaker 1: really got back into it. Japan was the center of

1013
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 1: the MMA universe by a country mile. It was not

1014
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:25,279
Speaker 1: even closed they were far bigger than UFC, and of

1015
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:27,120
Speaker 1: course that leveled out and then eventually they collapsed in

1016
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:29,920
Speaker 1: UFC went on to do UFC things. But I remember

1017
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 1: that world, But there's a there's a story to be told,

1018
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:34,240
Speaker 1: Like it wasn't just that Pride fell apart and people

1019
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 1: just you know, stopped checking it out. That was part

1020
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:39,480
Speaker 1: of it. The other part was what ended up happening

1021
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:42,399
Speaker 1: towards the end of the boom in Japan is they

1022
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:45,439
Speaker 1: began Japanese promoters Pride, but also k One as well.

1023
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:50,080
Speaker 1: They began doing way too many freak show fights. You know,

1024
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:53,440
Speaker 1: freak show fights have a place in boxing and started

1025
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:55,799
Speaker 1: in combat sports, but they were going to it hard,

1026
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:58,600
Speaker 1: like Hoys Gracie versus Aki Bono d you. I don't

1027
00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:00,120
Speaker 1: know if you ever seen those numbers on that at

1028
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:04,840
Speaker 1: the it like like forty percent of the country was watching.

1029
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:07,320
Speaker 1: It's some insane number, maybe even more than that, like

1030
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:10,920
Speaker 1: an absurdly high television rating. But what ended up happening

1031
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:14,320
Speaker 1: was it when you do too many freak show fights

1032
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 1: and they're too prominent, what ends up happening is it

1033
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 1: ends up undercutting the real thing. People lose interest in

1034
00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 1: the real thing. They get tired of the freak show,

1035
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:26,200
Speaker 1: but they then they never go back. It exhausts their

1036
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 1: reservoirs and they don't really go back to the real thing.

1037
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:32,279
Speaker 1: That was a big lesson in why Japanese Mma Fellow Park.

1038
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:34,520
Speaker 1: There's other reasons as well, and of course the Yukuza

1039
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:36,359
Speaker 1: being a huge part of it too. It's not one

1040
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:39,760
Speaker 1: or the other, but definitely I recall years and years

1041
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 1: and years for example, talking about this with Jordan Breen,

1042
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:44,560
Speaker 1: the late Jordan Breen. This is something we used to

1043
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:49,840
Speaker 1: discuss ad nauseum. Is Jake doing that to boxing?

1044
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:56,960
Speaker 2: Nah? I yeah, he's here. That's that's the problem. Like

1045
00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 2: if this was a pay per view would be one thing,

1046
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:01,600
Speaker 2: but I hate that, like like we do have it.

1047
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:05,239
Speaker 2: Look from a pure boxing standpoint, we have an opportunity

1048
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:09,000
Speaker 2: with Netflix's interest right here, to shoot boxing in the

1049
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:11,960
Speaker 2: face of people and have it be really big, have

1050
00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:14,840
Speaker 2: it beyond Netflix, have it seem cool the production values

1051
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:18,359
Speaker 2: through the roof. I get that the Jake Tyson thing

1052
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 2: was one in a million. They did it. Look at

1053
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:23,320
Speaker 2: the viewership they got. It's not their fault that Taylor

1054
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:25,279
Speaker 2: Serrano three turned out to be the worst of that

1055
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:28,520
Speaker 2: incredible trilogy, and it really was an inspiring fight, and

1056
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 2: it kind of felt like a letdown, But then we

1057
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:33,880
Speaker 2: get Canelo Crawford and you're like, Okay, lover hate the

1058
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:37,000
Speaker 2: people involved in it. This is really good. Imagine if

1059
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:39,640
Speaker 2: the biggest fights in boxing can be sent without a

1060
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:42,239
Speaker 2: pay per view up charge to basically everyone's living room

1061
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:45,640
Speaker 2: in Netflix to show what this sport really is. And

1062
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 2: now we're gonna dip back to show people that this

1063
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:51,279
Speaker 2: sport really most of the time is the shit show.

1064
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:54,080
Speaker 2: So yeah, it does feel like a little bit on

1065
00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:56,920
Speaker 2: your comparison there of what Jake is doing. And I

1066
00:52:56,960 --> 00:53:00,160
Speaker 2: don't you know, I don't damn Jake for using this

1067
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:02,840
Speaker 2: to make money. I don't damn Tank if this is

1068
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 2: the decision he made to make that money, even though

1069
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:07,040
Speaker 2: he's in the midst of his career. He's a top

1070
00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:10,719
Speaker 2: ten pounder pound. He just seemed to sidestep a potential

1071
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:15,479
Speaker 2: jail return, and we just badly want him to face

1072
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 2: the biggest names in the game. But I don't know,

1073
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:20,960
Speaker 2: I just something just feels off about this and I

1074
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:23,600
Speaker 2: don't like it. I really don't. The timing's bad. It

1075
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:26,360
Speaker 2: was different coming out of the pandemic when boxing was

1076
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:30,359
Speaker 2: having issues getting back in gear. The money wasn't there

1077
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:33,040
Speaker 2: for the big fights, and suddenly you got Tyson versus

1078
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:35,320
Speaker 2: Roy Jones, you got Logan Paul, you got Jake Paul.

1079
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:41,360
Speaker 2: It was this like, you know, moment moment, this little

1080
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 2: side diet. It's like, Okay, for the next six months,

1081
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:44,880
Speaker 2: I'm gonna eat bad, you know what I mean, Like

1082
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:48,480
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have this little gas station diet. But eventually

1083
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:49,880
Speaker 2: we're all gonna look in the mirror and want to

1084
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:53,719
Speaker 2: get back in shape. We just had Canelo Crawford. I

1085
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:57,920
Speaker 2: don't want this, but let's hear from another crazy person. Luke.

1086
00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:00,040
Speaker 2: Here's Jake Paul's dad talking to.

1087
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:02,000
Speaker 1: Hold on, let me set this up. He does not

1088
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 1: he does not say nice things in this. This is

1089
00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:06,080
Speaker 1: you know, I don't think I'm not gonna censor it

1090
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:09,719
Speaker 1: or anything like that, but heads up, you know this

1091
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 1: guy does. I mean, listen, I'll just say this. Listen

1092
00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:12,799
Speaker 1: to this, and we'll be like, well, at least he

1093
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 1: doesn't use the N word. That's nice. Okay, But.

1094
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:21,600
Speaker 10: Oh my god, did you guys watch that press conference

1095
00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:25,480
Speaker 10: with Jake and Tank. Tank and his team must all

1096
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:28,800
Speaker 10: be completely brain dead, and if he were the face

1097
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:32,360
Speaker 10: of boxing, it would fucking end. Everybody in the boxing

1098
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:35,320
Speaker 10: world should be thanking Jake. He's putting asses in seats,

1099
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:38,720
Speaker 10: he's blown up women's boxing like it's never been done before,

1100
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:42,359
Speaker 10: and Tank trying to have a conversation with him, it's

1101
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:44,520
Speaker 10: worse than talking to a third grader. And then his

1102
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:45,439
Speaker 10: team didn't even know what.

1103
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:46,120
Speaker 1: The fuck they talking about.

1104
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:48,600
Speaker 10: They're like, oh, well, how about we want to do

1105
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:50,960
Speaker 10: eight or ten on sclubs and blah blah, and Jake's

1106
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:53,280
Speaker 10: like that was that was your guys? Team and his manager,

1107
00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:55,880
Speaker 10: whoever the fuck the retard was, was like, well, I didn't.

1108
00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:56,080
Speaker 2: Know about it.

1109
00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:57,160
Speaker 1: What the fuck do you guys?

1110
00:54:57,200 --> 00:54:57,960
Speaker 2: Do you know?

1111
00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:01,960
Speaker 10: Like just the community should be thinking in fact that

1112
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 10: there's some of you, some brains, representing the future of boxing.

1113
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:07,360
Speaker 10: Thank you, Jake, Tank, your fucking retard.

1114
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:11,680
Speaker 2: GP's out well, GP giving me Hunter Biden vibes in

1115
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:13,920
Speaker 2: a big way. Luca, right, really.

1116
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:15,680
Speaker 1: How much do you think he knows about crack? That's

1117
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:16,040
Speaker 1: the question?

1118
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:20,200
Speaker 2: Wow, okay, uh, that's an interesting take that's supposed to do,

1119
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:22,960
Speaker 2: by the way, promote the fight. Here is also some

1120
00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:25,920
Speaker 2: of what Luke referenced earlier. Jake is trying at least

1121
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:30,120
Speaker 2: to create storylines something to get Tank angered. He brought

1122
00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:32,440
Speaker 2: up the low Jack and he also brought up the

1123
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:34,600
Speaker 2: the history of domestic violence.

1124
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:37,080
Speaker 11: Here's Jake, when you walk into the ring, how much

1125
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:40,840
Speaker 11: you think your way.

1126
00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:41,719
Speaker 2: With or without the ankle monitor on?

1127
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:46,600
Speaker 11: That's corny, that's super corny. I don't I don't know

1128
00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:52,200
Speaker 11: how much our weigh and huh what he's talking about?

1129
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:57,600
Speaker 11: Man outfit is trash for real, Alpha is garbage. Thank

1130
00:55:57,680 --> 00:56:01,160
Speaker 11: that hash though. Anybody that but Rock the Mohawk is

1131
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:02,080
Speaker 11: a fucking clown.

1132
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:03,839
Speaker 4: We all know this name.

1133
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:09,239
Speaker 2: We want to see clowns. You want to see clowns. DeVante,

1134
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:12,200
Speaker 2: you're the fucking clown, buddy. Any man who puts his

1135
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:13,800
Speaker 2: hands on a woman is the clown.

1136
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:20,879
Speaker 11: If I put my hands on females or anything like that, right,

1137
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:23,200
Speaker 11: you see how when when I don't even want to

1138
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:26,800
Speaker 11: bring up nobody think, what's the name about that? But

1139
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:30,160
Speaker 11: Pete Diddy, when things got like that, it was mad

1140
00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:31,759
Speaker 11: females coming out right.

1141
00:56:32,239 --> 00:56:33,919
Speaker 4: So if if I hit a.

1142
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:37,120
Speaker 11: Female right wanting to be mad other females like I've been,

1143
00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:39,799
Speaker 11: I ain't been just with one female like I'm I'm

1144
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:41,000
Speaker 11: thirty years old.

1145
00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:49,080
Speaker 1: No, okay, dude, who is the let me serious question,

1146
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:50,680
Speaker 1: Who the fuck is that for?

1147
00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:54,480
Speaker 2: Who's quality controlling that? I feel bad for? That reminds

1148
00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:56,560
Speaker 2: me of the guy who hosted this tour. Look you

1149
00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:59,840
Speaker 2: know what I mean, you know, just being a hungout

1150
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:01,520
Speaker 2: dry like.

1151
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:04,880
Speaker 1: This is terrible. Here's a check, yes, this is Yeah.

1152
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:07,840
Speaker 2: Let's go poor poor Brian Custerer. He did try very hard.

1153
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:09,080
Speaker 1: He did, he was doing his best.

1154
00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:12,840
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, we also have Terrence Crawford who chimed

1155
00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:13,480
Speaker 2: in and this.

1156
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:16,160
Speaker 1: One, this one might get a little long, but uh

1157
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:18,439
Speaker 1: he well, let's know what he has to say about

1158
00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:19,360
Speaker 1: who he thinks is gonna win.

1159
00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:24,520
Speaker 12: Jake too big for Tank. You know, in reality, he's

1160
00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:30,320
Speaker 12: way too big for Tank. Like Tank is very talented, punch, hard, explosive, uh,

1161
00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:32,880
Speaker 12: the whole nine yards.

1162
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:35,520
Speaker 2: But yeah, because some people say Jake's fights rigged, He's

1163
00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:37,720
Speaker 2: like suing people now that say they're rigged.

1164
00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:40,439
Speaker 11: You see that, But how could they rig it before?

1165
00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:42,479
Speaker 2: Because like what if they just say, oh, we're gonna

1166
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:44,200
Speaker 2: go soft on each other and then Tank just fucking

1167
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:45,440
Speaker 2: throws it right at Jake.

1168
00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:48,479
Speaker 12: Jake and punch with that right and like I seen

1169
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:50,680
Speaker 12: you know what I mean up close in person, Like

1170
00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:54,160
Speaker 12: dude is big, he's not as slow as people think

1171
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:57,600
Speaker 12: he is, and he can punch, you know. That's why

1172
00:57:57,640 --> 00:58:01,520
Speaker 12: a lot of people know. Like there was times where

1173
00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:04,960
Speaker 12: you know him and Tyson, you know, was in the ring.

1174
00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:07,120
Speaker 12: He could have like laid it on Tyson, but he

1175
00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:08,200
Speaker 12: kind of like held back.

1176
00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:09,080
Speaker 4: You could tell.

1177
00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:12,240
Speaker 12: And that's same with Tyson, Like Tyson could have caught

1178
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:12,959
Speaker 12: Jake with something.

1179
00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:13,640
Speaker 1: He's just like.

1180
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:17,960
Speaker 4: You know, so you could see it.

1181
00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:19,560
Speaker 2: If you had to choose someone to win that fight,

1182
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:20,440
Speaker 2: who do you think wins?

1183
00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:23,320
Speaker 12: Honestly, I think Jake bye by.

1184
00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:28,680
Speaker 4: Youth really, dude, Jake's a huge underdog too.

1185
00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:33,160
Speaker 2: Jake by Youth apparently the bean size. Yeah, I hope

1186
00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:35,240
Speaker 2: nobody wins. Luke. There we go. I mean, what else

1187
00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:36,520
Speaker 2: you got to say about it? You know what I mean?

1188
00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:38,880
Speaker 1: Couldn't I just I just think I never was this guy.

1189
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:41,800
Speaker 1: I thought, like you, it was, you know, big enough

1190
00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:45,840
Speaker 1: to be interesting and market but not in any way

1191
00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:50,800
Speaker 1: a not supplanting normal boxing. But I was really thinking

1192
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:53,960
Speaker 1: about the lessons They called in Japan the kakutoki boom,

1193
00:58:54,560 --> 00:58:56,240
Speaker 1: that was what they called. It was like this boom

1194
00:58:56,240 --> 00:58:58,160
Speaker 1: of M m A and pro wrestling at the time,

1195
00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:02,640
Speaker 1: and the reasons why that collapsed was promoters over relying

1196
00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:06,280
Speaker 1: on freak shows for big ratings. And I'm like, I

1197
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:08,080
Speaker 1: gotta tell you, I don't know. I mean, I think

1198
00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:10,440
Speaker 1: there's so many things happening in boxing. To lay it

1199
00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:12,000
Speaker 1: all at the feet of Jake Paul would also be

1200
00:59:12,080 --> 00:59:15,240
Speaker 1: irresponsible and not true. But I have to wonder, bec

1201
00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:16,800
Speaker 1: here's where my head is at. And that's the last

1202
00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:19,440
Speaker 1: one we could say about it, Dude, Jake Paul's fights,

1203
00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:22,160
Speaker 1: I'm sorry to say, they mostly suck. Like, they're mostly

1204
00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:25,040
Speaker 1: not interesting, they're mostly not very good, and they're mostly

1205
00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:27,400
Speaker 1: not very fun. And in fact, the last one was

1206
00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:29,920
Speaker 1: maybe the worst one I've ever seen in my life.

1207
00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:32,560
Speaker 1: What if he has another stinker where you get these

1208
00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:35,560
Speaker 1: big seventy five million, let's say, like huge number, and

1209
00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:39,600
Speaker 1: you get this on Netflix and he can't knock out Jervonte,

1210
00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:42,880
Speaker 1: but Jervante can't knock him out, and so you get

1211
00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:45,760
Speaker 1: another kind of like ass situation. What does it do

1212
00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:48,560
Speaker 1: when the times that you call in casual fans to

1213
00:59:48,600 --> 00:59:51,840
Speaker 1: come look at something and it's decidedly shit, What does

1214
00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:54,200
Speaker 1: that do? What does that do. I don't know the

1215
00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:55,960
Speaker 1: answer to that, but I'm a little bit worried to

1216
00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:56,439
Speaker 1: find out.

1217
00:59:56,880 --> 00:59:59,960
Speaker 2: I just hate that. You know, Tank was talking about retire,

1218
01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:03,480
Speaker 2: didn't seem to care that he fought to a disputed

1219
01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:07,160
Speaker 2: draw against Roach. Looked like he wanted the rematch. He

1220
01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:09,400
Speaker 2: needed the rematch to sort of right that wrong on

1221
01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:12,960
Speaker 2: his resume. And here we are, here, we are all right,

1222
01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:16,240
Speaker 2: let's go to topic number three. We have some clarity

1223
01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:20,000
Speaker 2: here and looking to find a replacement for Raphael Faziv

1224
01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:23,920
Speaker 2: in the October UFC he O main event for the

1225
01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:26,440
Speaker 2: Fight Night card be Faziva's out due to injury. We

1226
01:00:26,520 --> 01:00:28,840
Speaker 2: talked last episode about a lot of people were turning

1227
01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:32,000
Speaker 2: it down. One person that didn't turned on an opportunity

1228
01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:36,560
Speaker 2: to fight Doe Bronx. Charles Olivera is one matteish Gamra.

1229
01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:39,640
Speaker 2: He's in. We have a new main event and in

1230
01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:41,920
Speaker 2: some cases you got to argue this upgrade sort of

1231
01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:44,720
Speaker 2: the stakes. When you look at where the rankings are.

1232
01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:47,760
Speaker 2: You have Olivera rank number four, you have Gamrock ranked

1233
01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:50,200
Speaker 2: number seven, both in the one hundred and fifty five

1234
01:00:50,320 --> 01:00:53,680
Speaker 2: pound division. This is about as different an opponent as

1235
01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:56,720
Speaker 2: Olivera could get right here. But Luke, all in all,

1236
01:00:57,000 --> 01:00:59,920
Speaker 2: it ain't BSD. But is there an argument to make

1237
01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:03,000
Speaker 2: this is even a better matchup for the fans than

1238
01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:06,160
Speaker 2: the all action we we potentially could have had with physique.

1239
01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:14,960
Speaker 1: I think this fight, oh man, okay, I genuinly generally

1240
01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:18,200
Speaker 1: think this fight's gonna be awesome. So let me start

1241
01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:20,160
Speaker 1: with what I think could be the bad news are

1242
01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:22,520
Speaker 1: at a bare minimum just at least worth thinking about

1243
01:01:22,600 --> 01:01:25,800
Speaker 1: ahead of time. Namely, you go back to what Armin

1244
01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:29,200
Speaker 1: Sarukian did to Ola Vera, and the other guys have

1245
01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:32,280
Speaker 1: done that in shorter time spans, but like he did

1246
01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:35,600
Speaker 1: it for you know, three rounds essentially UFC three hundred, right,

1247
01:01:35,600 --> 01:01:38,200
Speaker 1: that was three hundred. I think that was three hundred. Yeah,

1248
01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:42,440
Speaker 1: where he's maintaining chest to chess connection the entire time,

1249
01:01:42,680 --> 01:01:44,560
Speaker 1: or at least you know, long stretches of it, breaking

1250
01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:46,920
Speaker 1: it for some ground and pound. But you know that

1251
01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:49,120
Speaker 1: was basically I know there was some submission threats earlier,

1252
01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:50,600
Speaker 1: but like, how did he win that fight? Like that's

1253
01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:53,600
Speaker 1: how he won that fight. And you would imagine, hey,

1254
01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:56,360
Speaker 1: if like Saryukian could do it and the guy who

1255
01:01:56,400 --> 01:02:00,200
Speaker 1: also wrestles, who also beat Saryuki In might also be

1256
01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:02,000
Speaker 1: able to do that. That's something to keep in mind.

1257
01:02:02,040 --> 01:02:04,240
Speaker 1: I think what I would say, though, is a if

1258
01:02:04,280 --> 01:02:06,080
Speaker 1: you're a Charles Oliver fan, the fact that he's not

1259
01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:09,560
Speaker 1: going up against a bruising striker. Gamrock's striking has gotten better,

1260
01:02:09,560 --> 01:02:11,200
Speaker 1: but he's not like physivee on the feet. I think

1261
01:02:11,200 --> 01:02:13,560
Speaker 1: it's pretty fair to say, you know, given where he

1262
01:02:13,640 --> 01:02:15,640
Speaker 1: just got viciously laid out, that should make you feel

1263
01:02:15,640 --> 01:02:17,600
Speaker 1: a little bit better. That's the first thing i'd say.

1264
01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:19,520
Speaker 1: The second thing i'd say is I think olivera is

1265
01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:23,120
Speaker 1: starting to figure out about like scoop gripping, inverting, you know,

1266
01:02:23,240 --> 01:02:24,920
Speaker 1: doing He did it to Islam. He did it in

1267
01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:27,360
Speaker 1: fact to Ilya. Ilia tried to take a dominant position

1268
01:02:27,400 --> 01:02:30,120
Speaker 1: and he went underneath him and so Ilia had to

1269
01:02:30,240 --> 01:02:32,680
Speaker 1: essentially just kind of escape, to you, back to his

1270
01:02:32,680 --> 01:02:36,760
Speaker 1: feet or whatever. So I think he's got that capacity

1271
01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:39,120
Speaker 1: to do it. And for that reason, I'm gonna say

1272
01:02:39,120 --> 01:02:41,800
Speaker 1: I'm pretty cautiously optimistic that there's a version of this fight,

1273
01:02:41,840 --> 01:02:44,400
Speaker 1: and it's maybe even the likeliest version that is going

1274
01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:47,040
Speaker 1: to be pretty competitive. Yes, Gamroth's gonna get the take down. Yes,

1275
01:02:47,080 --> 01:02:49,760
Speaker 1: there might be some control positions that he maintains. But

1276
01:02:49,840 --> 01:02:53,600
Speaker 1: in general, the style matchup and given what Olivera has learned,

1277
01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:55,560
Speaker 1: is going to lead us to a place You're going

1278
01:02:55,640 --> 01:02:58,000
Speaker 1: to get a lot of action on the ground and

1279
01:02:58,200 --> 01:03:01,240
Speaker 1: or Olivera potentially even putting it on him in the feet.

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01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:04,600
Speaker 1: Bigger questions, of course about his resilience. PC Gamrot not

1281
01:03:04,680 --> 01:03:07,320
Speaker 1: known as a puncher, but if you've just been kot

1282
01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:10,040
Speaker 1: and you're right back at it, you know your resiliency

1283
01:03:10,120 --> 01:03:12,960
Speaker 1: can suffer as a consequence. So that is certainly on

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Speaker 1: the table. But honestly, I'm gonna say that I'm cautiously

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Speaker 1: optimistic You're gonna get a really fun back and forth

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Speaker 1: ground battle.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it means a little more than the PHYSI fight

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01:03:21,720 --> 01:03:24,200
Speaker 2: because you've got Gamra who's one four of his last five.

1289
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Speaker 2: If he beats the number four former champion and Olivera,

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Speaker 2: this could be the closest he's ever been to knocking

1291
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Speaker 2: on that door to the title shot. And on the

1292
01:03:31,240 --> 01:03:34,520
Speaker 2: flip side, Olivera has lost three of five and done

1293
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Speaker 2: so on the highest level, sometimes spectacularly. But given his

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Speaker 2: age he's advancing into his late thirties now, and given

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Speaker 2: the fact that like you said, he's so far, so

1296
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Speaker 2: closely removed, excuse me, from a devastating knockout to Toporia.

1297
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Speaker 2: This could be the kind of win that revives him

1298
01:03:49,640 --> 01:03:52,360
Speaker 2: and keeps him in that title picture. So no shortage

1299
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Speaker 2: of steaks. As we look at the current DraftKings odds,

1300
01:03:55,520 --> 01:04:00,520
Speaker 2: Olavera minus one twenty Gamro plus one hundred, so we

1301
01:04:00,600 --> 01:04:04,360
Speaker 2: are looking at a very competitive, very interesting fight right here.

1302
01:04:04,800 --> 01:04:07,760
Speaker 2: Let's hear from Charles Olivera, who reacted on social media

1303
01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:11,200
Speaker 2: to the fact that Gamra was the man who stepped.

1304
01:04:10,960 --> 01:04:12,840
Speaker 4: Up a you get a side.

1305
01:04:16,160 --> 01:04:24,520
Speaker 10: Oh here's Hipki.

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01:04:23,480 --> 01:04:30,520
Speaker 4: Doesn't to show you.

1307
01:04:32,840 --> 01:04:35,000
Speaker 2: Look, I don't know if your Portuguesa is any good,

1308
01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:36,920
Speaker 2: but he just said there will be war. And you know,

1309
01:04:37,000 --> 01:04:39,800
Speaker 2: the gamera for for having sometimes a born and wrestling

1310
01:04:39,840 --> 01:04:43,000
Speaker 2: reputation has been in some bangers. So if you're gonna

1311
01:04:43,000 --> 01:04:46,400
Speaker 2: do this in heo in the backyard of that gray

1312
01:04:46,440 --> 01:04:49,760
Speaker 2: haired gentleman who comes to uh steal your girlfriend, you

1313
01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:51,760
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. That's that's the spirit Olivera brings

1314
01:04:51,800 --> 01:04:54,880
Speaker 2: to the cage. Somebody's getting finished. Okay, they That's that's

1315
01:04:54,920 --> 01:04:58,160
Speaker 2: what he brings. This could be a great atmosphere for.

1316
01:04:58,120 --> 01:05:01,760
Speaker 1: A call it. Call it what was the place where

1317
01:05:02,200 --> 01:05:03,400
Speaker 1: Robert Kraft got the handy?

1318
01:05:03,880 --> 01:05:07,600
Speaker 2: Oh yeah? Orchids of combat possibly.

1319
01:05:07,240 --> 01:05:09,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what you should call this card or this

1320
01:05:09,600 --> 01:05:11,920
Speaker 1: event it someone's.

1321
01:05:11,560 --> 01:05:13,880
Speaker 2: Getting finished, you know what I'm saying, same feelings. Oh,

1322
01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:16,520
Speaker 2: we also have gam Rod here responding, reacting.

1323
01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:19,280
Speaker 1: I want to set this up if I may look

1324
01:05:19,280 --> 01:05:21,680
Speaker 1: at how much this means to Gamrod, who people don't

1325
01:05:21,680 --> 01:05:23,240
Speaker 1: want to fight, right, I mean, he's got some big

1326
01:05:23,280 --> 01:05:25,120
Speaker 1: fights and sometimes he's lost the ones where he's had

1327
01:05:25,120 --> 01:05:26,680
Speaker 1: a chance to win, Like the Hooker fight was kind

1328
01:05:26,720 --> 01:05:29,240
Speaker 1: of surprising, you know, but for a guy that's been

1329
01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:32,200
Speaker 1: avoided and not been able to never been a promotional star,

1330
01:05:32,360 --> 01:05:33,760
Speaker 1: never will be a promotional star.

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Speaker 9: Look what it means to him.

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01:05:45,160 --> 01:06:14,480
Speaker 4: That's good.

1333
01:06:18,080 --> 01:06:20,440
Speaker 2: Look that sounded like you had of Joseph Banks. By

1334
01:06:20,440 --> 01:06:23,320
Speaker 2: the way, that was you could take that audio out

1335
01:06:23,320 --> 01:06:26,000
Speaker 2: of context in a hurry. It feels good to see I.

1336
01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:29,760
Speaker 1: Was also just as sweaty.

1337
01:06:30,680 --> 01:06:33,480
Speaker 2: It does feel good to see that. Plus one hundred

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01:06:33,480 --> 01:06:34,919
Speaker 2: odds on Gamra. You like that, Luke.

1339
01:06:36,720 --> 01:06:38,480
Speaker 1: I mean, that's a better question for Long Island, Luke.

1340
01:06:38,480 --> 01:06:41,120
Speaker 1: But I gotta tell you, I mean, you know, he's

1341
01:06:41,280 --> 01:06:43,440
Speaker 1: he's a fucking threat. I can tell you that he's

1342
01:06:43,480 --> 01:06:43,880
Speaker 1: a threat.

1343
01:06:44,440 --> 01:06:47,840
Speaker 2: Indeed, indeed, all right, that was uh, that was.

1344
01:06:47,800 --> 01:06:49,880
Speaker 1: The worst looking cyber truck I think I've ever seen

1345
01:06:49,920 --> 01:06:50,360
Speaker 1: in my life.

1346
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Speaker 2: I would agree with that. I don't think I've seen

1347
01:06:52,320 --> 01:06:54,280
Speaker 2: a good looking one yet. Reminds me of the women

1348
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Speaker 2: of the state of Pennsylvania, Luke as my dad.

1349
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Speaker 1: Pennsylvania Boom. There are certain states, and there's a certain

1350
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Speaker 1: things that you and I both kill on this show,

1351
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Speaker 1: and like Kiss the band Kiss, we both hate them.

1352
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Speaker 1: And yeah, women, that's another one. We're brutal in certain ways.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there we go with that.

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Speaker 12: Uh.

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Speaker 2: You know what's not brutal, though, Luke, making sure when

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Speaker 2: you're out on the go in the fall, when you're

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Speaker 2: picking apples, peeping the leaves, that you make sure that

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1360
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Speaker 2: you're putting in hard work, maybe you're chopping some wood,

1361
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Speaker 2: doesn't mean you have to smell that at the end

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Speaker 2: of the day. Don't let body odors sideline you. Mando

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Speaker 2: you come across when you're on the job site, when

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Speaker 2: you're tailgating. You don't want to mask it. You want

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Speaker 2: the end of the day, when I put on Mando,

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Speaker 2: people smell that. People know it. Hey, what coloni you wearing? No,

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Speaker 2: it's my deodorant. And at the end of the day, Luke,

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Speaker 2: it's made out of clean products. It smells great, But

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Speaker 2: all that is just vanity to me. Does it keep

1374
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Speaker 2: me composed? Does it keep me in the game, so

1375
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Speaker 2: to speak? Anytime I'm rolling with Mando, it's not something

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Speaker 1: two things that I love about Mando. First of all,

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Speaker 2: And look, if you travel a lot like we do,

1406
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Speaker 2: having those deodorant wipes as an extreme backup in the backpack.

1407
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Speaker 2: Those come and play in a big way when you're

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Speaker 2: on the move.

1409
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Speaker 1: All right, Uh, yep, I can attest to that being

1410
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Speaker 1: a real thing.

1411
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Speaker 2: Yeah, they used to call them Luke swamp Ass, Thomas Backing,

1412
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Speaker 2: William and Mary you know what I mean. Yeah, Wow,

1413
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Speaker 2: that's great. All right, let's go to topic number four. Hey,

1414
01:10:03,840 --> 01:10:07,759
Speaker 2: it's only been three weeks that the new PFL CEO,

1415
01:10:08,080 --> 01:10:12,280
Speaker 2: John Martin is on the job. The self proclaimed lifetime

1416
01:10:12,360 --> 01:10:16,479
Speaker 2: mixed martial arts and combat fan, he's tatted up as well,

1417
01:10:16,520 --> 01:10:18,960
Speaker 2: as we saw from the video that he put out there.

1418
01:10:19,200 --> 01:10:21,960
Speaker 2: He's making huge changes and it's in good timing because

1419
01:10:21,960 --> 01:10:23,920
Speaker 2: we are a little bit over a week away from

1420
01:10:23,920 --> 01:10:26,720
Speaker 2: that October third, arguably the biggest fight card of the

1421
01:10:26,800 --> 01:10:30,400
Speaker 2: year for PFL in the UAE, when we get Usman

1422
01:10:30,439 --> 01:10:33,439
Speaker 2: der Maga Metov Paul Hughes Chapter two for the PFL

1423
01:10:33,520 --> 01:10:37,640
Speaker 2: Lightweight Championship. Yeah, Cory Anderson in a rematch with dovlets

1424
01:10:37,720 --> 01:10:40,760
Speaker 2: On for the light heavyweight Championship. Look, there's a lot

1425
01:10:40,840 --> 01:10:44,200
Speaker 2: going on in PFL, and John Martin has announced some

1426
01:10:44,360 --> 01:10:48,240
Speaker 2: very substantial changes in recent days to their business model.

1427
01:10:48,280 --> 01:10:51,680
Speaker 2: Most importantly, from now on, each division will only have

1428
01:10:51,800 --> 01:10:55,400
Speaker 2: one champion, no more tournament champions. As you can see

1429
01:10:55,400 --> 01:10:58,040
Speaker 2: on the screen, this was the detailed text that Martin

1430
01:10:58,080 --> 01:11:01,240
Speaker 2: put out there. Luke, I've got video from an interview

1431
01:11:01,280 --> 01:11:03,439
Speaker 2: that's gonna run next week on my channel where I

1432
01:11:03,479 --> 01:11:05,840
Speaker 2: had the pleasure to catch up with John Martin, and

1433
01:11:05,840 --> 01:11:08,080
Speaker 2: we can throw to that in a second, but straight

1434
01:11:08,120 --> 01:11:12,160
Speaker 2: off the top, just making that one key change of

1435
01:11:12,240 --> 01:11:16,880
Speaker 2: no more regular season tournament champions, then we got the

1436
01:11:17,040 --> 01:11:19,360
Speaker 2: Super Fight pay per view champions, then we got the

1437
01:11:19,439 --> 01:11:23,679
Speaker 2: Champions League champions. None of that bs anymore. One division,

1438
01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:27,479
Speaker 2: one fighter, one name, one champion. Do you support these

1439
01:11:27,600 --> 01:11:30,920
Speaker 2: changes that John Martin has brought in and how impactful

1440
01:11:30,960 --> 01:11:34,160
Speaker 2: do you think they'll be? And not only PFL attracting

1441
01:11:34,200 --> 01:11:37,680
Speaker 2: new fans, but to be very blunt staying alive in

1442
01:11:37,720 --> 01:11:39,000
Speaker 2: this industry moving forward.

1443
01:11:39,360 --> 01:11:42,000
Speaker 1: I don't know what the response could be to this

1444
01:11:42,520 --> 01:11:45,920
Speaker 1: other than how is this? How is this not good news?

1445
01:11:46,479 --> 01:11:48,719
Speaker 1: How is this not good news? This is great news.

1446
01:11:49,080 --> 01:11:51,040
Speaker 1: We'll discuss the impact in a second, but this is

1447
01:11:51,200 --> 01:11:54,960
Speaker 1: obviously what they need. We've been talking about this forever, dude,

1448
01:11:55,080 --> 01:11:57,599
Speaker 1: As somebody who's been doing this shit for probably way

1449
01:11:57,640 --> 01:12:00,880
Speaker 1: too long. I've seen all these promoters and tricks. I

1450
01:12:00,920 --> 01:12:03,400
Speaker 1: lived through born Revenue trying exactly this, and he had

1451
01:12:03,439 --> 01:12:06,040
Speaker 1: a different solution that he came up with. I'll never

1452
01:12:06,080 --> 01:12:07,600
Speaker 1: forget when they let him go and they brought in

1453
01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:10,040
Speaker 1: Scott Coker to run Belatore after Strikeforce had ended and

1454
01:12:10,080 --> 01:12:12,519
Speaker 1: it's time served and ZUFA had come to a close.

1455
01:12:12,880 --> 01:12:14,919
Speaker 1: He was doing this bit where they would have tournaments

1456
01:12:14,960 --> 01:12:16,720
Speaker 1: some of the times, and then they would have this

1457
01:12:16,800 --> 01:12:18,720
Speaker 1: pool of people where if you'd either fought or won

1458
01:12:18,800 --> 01:12:20,719
Speaker 1: in a tournament, you didn't have to be in there.

1459
01:12:20,840 --> 01:12:23,000
Speaker 1: And the whole thing was confusing. Who can follow shit

1460
01:12:23,080 --> 01:12:26,040
Speaker 1: like this? You can't reinvent the wheel they tried to

1461
01:12:26,120 --> 01:12:28,320
Speaker 1: with this tournament system. You can do some tournaments. There's

1462
01:12:28,320 --> 01:12:31,320
Speaker 1: a limited focused use for them. There is an intelligent

1463
01:12:31,400 --> 01:12:33,720
Speaker 1: use case for them, but just making everywhere. We're just

1464
01:12:33,720 --> 01:12:36,439
Speaker 1: gonna completely rewrite the structure of MMA in ways that

1465
01:12:36,520 --> 01:12:38,840
Speaker 1: has proven to be a failure. But we're gonna do

1466
01:12:38,880 --> 01:12:41,479
Speaker 1: that to raise revenue. Sure, you're gonna be able to

1467
01:12:41,560 --> 01:12:43,360
Speaker 1: raise revenue doing that, but are you gonna be able

1468
01:12:43,400 --> 01:12:45,920
Speaker 1: to turn a fucking profit? Are you gonna be able

1469
01:12:45,920 --> 01:12:47,760
Speaker 1: to attract an audience? Are you gonna be able to

1470
01:12:47,760 --> 01:12:49,320
Speaker 1: build a fan base. And the answer to that is

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Speaker 1: a resounding fuck. No, it doesn't work. You can look

1472
01:12:52,560 --> 01:12:55,360
Speaker 1: at what PFL does and you can find many wonderful

1473
01:12:55,360 --> 01:12:58,200
Speaker 1: things about the product, but it's a basic question. Do

1474
01:12:58,280 --> 01:13:00,320
Speaker 1: they make money and are they gonna pay have to

1475
01:13:00,360 --> 01:13:03,280
Speaker 1: make in money? And the answer is no. The answer

1476
01:13:03,360 --> 01:13:06,599
Speaker 1: is no. Getting this right BC to answer the question

1477
01:13:06,640 --> 01:13:09,840
Speaker 1: about the impact doesn't solve all of their problems. There's

1478
01:13:09,960 --> 01:13:13,120
Speaker 1: many other things that have to go in conjunction with

1479
01:13:13,200 --> 01:13:15,360
Speaker 1: this to get them to a better place, as well

1480
01:13:15,400 --> 01:13:19,360
Speaker 1: as frankly, some serendipity. However, and I think you might

1481
01:13:19,400 --> 01:13:23,080
Speaker 1: agree with this, BC, this choice is not just good

1482
01:13:23,160 --> 01:13:28,479
Speaker 1: because is it objectively helpful that they're simplifying their championship structure. Yes,

1483
01:13:28,520 --> 01:13:31,840
Speaker 1: of course. But to me, what actually makes it even

1484
01:13:31,920 --> 01:13:36,840
Speaker 1: better than that is that it signals the kind of

1485
01:13:36,880 --> 01:13:41,080
Speaker 1: thoughtfulness and reflection about what's working and what's not, and

1486
01:13:41,160 --> 01:13:45,800
Speaker 1: the kinds of simple but frankly bold changes that need

1487
01:13:45,840 --> 01:13:48,320
Speaker 1: to get made. It gives me, I'm trying to point

1488
01:13:48,360 --> 01:13:51,639
Speaker 1: out BC, it gives me faith in his judgment, right,

1489
01:13:51,960 --> 01:13:53,760
Speaker 1: And if I have faith in your judgment and your

1490
01:13:53,840 --> 01:13:56,719
Speaker 1: judgment proves to be correct. It's not about my faith

1491
01:13:56,720 --> 01:13:59,120
Speaker 1: in it. I'm saying, if the judgment proves to be correct,

1492
01:13:59,400 --> 01:14:02,880
Speaker 1: then they're gonna make other good decisions down the line

1493
01:14:03,360 --> 01:14:05,759
Speaker 1: that they're gonna need to to get to a better place.

1494
01:14:06,439 --> 01:14:09,320
Speaker 2: Dude. I talked to John Martin for fifteen minutes and

1495
01:14:09,520 --> 01:14:12,599
Speaker 2: was kind of blown away, not blown away at like

1496
01:14:13,200 --> 01:14:16,880
Speaker 2: unrealistic promises, just that I think he's everything PFL has

1497
01:14:16,960 --> 01:14:18,960
Speaker 2: needed in a mouthpiece. And I know they've been using

1498
01:14:19,040 --> 01:14:21,599
Speaker 2: John's the coachman a lot more lately, and we certainly

1499
01:14:21,600 --> 01:14:24,719
Speaker 2: support that. And this isn't meant to just completely dunk

1500
01:14:24,760 --> 01:14:27,719
Speaker 2: on Don Davis and just t bag him Shaquille O'Neil

1501
01:14:27,800 --> 01:14:30,840
Speaker 2: on Chris Dudley's style, But Luke, I think a lot

1502
01:14:30,840 --> 01:14:33,200
Speaker 2: of what Don Davis was doing publicly was acting like

1503
01:14:33,240 --> 01:14:35,439
Speaker 2: he's the smartest guy in the room. In us MMA,

1504
01:14:35,560 --> 01:14:38,400
Speaker 2: fans and experts don't know shit, whereas I think Martin's

1505
01:14:38,400 --> 01:14:41,040
Speaker 2: coming in very humble. He's saying, look, we want to

1506
01:14:41,080 --> 01:14:43,280
Speaker 2: listen to the fans. We're making these changes right away,

1507
01:14:43,960 --> 01:14:46,559
Speaker 2: just so people know Peter Murray is the guy that

1508
01:14:46,640 --> 01:14:49,320
Speaker 2: John Martin is replacing as the CEO. Peter Murray will

1509
01:14:49,320 --> 01:14:52,559
Speaker 2: now focus on PFL International. Don Davis, the co founder,

1510
01:14:52,640 --> 01:14:55,160
Speaker 2: is still there, still playing a big role, you know,

1511
01:14:55,240 --> 01:14:57,960
Speaker 2: behind the scenes, but he just wasn't the right guy

1512
01:14:58,080 --> 01:15:00,080
Speaker 2: for the face. And the face matters. You need the

1513
01:15:00,160 --> 01:15:03,439
Speaker 2: media to buy in and trust who's speaking. You need

1514
01:15:03,439 --> 01:15:06,080
Speaker 2: them to be able to decipher properly. And I feel

1515
01:15:06,120 --> 01:15:09,960
Speaker 2: like unfortunately Don with multiple ends, was digging a lot

1516
01:15:09,960 --> 01:15:12,760
Speaker 2: of holes without realizing it for himself. And it was

1517
01:15:12,880 --> 01:15:15,880
Speaker 2: just like, yeah, they made some positive changes this year,

1518
01:15:15,960 --> 01:15:18,559
Speaker 2: you know, I brought back elbows, certain things, but it

1519
01:15:18,680 --> 01:15:20,320
Speaker 2: wasn't enough because at the end of the day, our

1520
01:15:20,360 --> 01:15:23,880
Speaker 2: biggest complaint was the same. This whole shit's so confusing.

1521
01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:26,360
Speaker 2: You've got too many sub leagues, You've got too many

1522
01:15:26,439 --> 01:15:29,439
Speaker 2: championship belts. How are you guys gonna compete. You're gonna

1523
01:15:29,439 --> 01:15:32,639
Speaker 2: compete by us knowing who are your core of best fighters,

1524
01:15:32,840 --> 01:15:35,840
Speaker 2: who's coming up behind them to potentially challenge them? What

1525
01:15:35,960 --> 01:15:38,160
Speaker 2: rivalries matter? This is what we care about. We don't

1526
01:15:38,160 --> 01:15:40,599
Speaker 2: care about tournaments, We don't care about the other stuff.

1527
01:15:40,800 --> 01:15:43,800
Speaker 2: So here is John Martin talking to me directly in

1528
01:15:43,880 --> 01:15:46,400
Speaker 2: response to that big announcement that we talked about. We're

1529
01:15:46,400 --> 01:15:49,680
Speaker 2: moving forward. We will have one champion per division, and

1530
01:15:49,680 --> 01:15:51,720
Speaker 2: there's some other changes coming. Listen closely here.

1531
01:15:52,160 --> 01:15:52,639
Speaker 1: Part of the.

1532
01:15:52,600 --> 01:15:58,080
Speaker 8: Reason why I decided to move quickly to the simplification

1533
01:15:58,160 --> 01:16:03,160
Speaker 8: and communicate the simplification is because we've been listening to

1534
01:16:03,160 --> 01:16:06,960
Speaker 8: the fans and it was my predisposition coming in being

1535
01:16:06,960 --> 01:16:09,439
Speaker 8: a fight fan since I was five years old. There's

1536
01:16:09,479 --> 01:16:12,519
Speaker 8: a tried and true, you know method which and it's

1537
01:16:12,560 --> 01:16:16,280
Speaker 8: beauty and simplicity, and it's everybody knows who the champ is,

1538
01:16:16,400 --> 01:16:19,880
Speaker 8: everybody knows who the contenders are. And then there's matchmaking.

1539
01:16:19,960 --> 01:16:24,240
Speaker 8: There's storytelling, there's grudge matches, there's you can build energy

1540
01:16:24,320 --> 01:16:27,520
Speaker 8: and momentum and and and in some of the formats

1541
01:16:28,760 --> 01:16:31,920
Speaker 8: it was tough to do that. The formats were not bad,

1542
01:16:31,960 --> 01:16:34,639
Speaker 8: it was real rationale for them. And we may still

1543
01:16:34,840 --> 01:16:38,320
Speaker 8: use some tournament formats in certain areas, particularly in the

1544
01:16:38,320 --> 01:16:40,960
Speaker 8: international leagues, where I think it may make more sense.

1545
01:16:41,000 --> 01:16:44,040
Speaker 8: But people want to see the best fights. They want

1546
01:16:44,080 --> 01:16:47,440
Speaker 8: to see the best fighters fighting the best you know, opponents,

1547
01:16:48,000 --> 01:16:50,320
Speaker 8: and that's what I want to bring to the PFL.

1548
01:16:51,520 --> 01:16:54,559
Speaker 2: So Luke I followed up and said, are you saying

1549
01:16:54,600 --> 01:16:56,960
Speaker 2: that next year twenty twenty six, which, by the way,

1550
01:16:57,040 --> 01:17:00,160
Speaker 2: is the last year for PFL on ESPN. Are are

1551
01:17:00,240 --> 01:17:02,880
Speaker 2: you going away with tournaments? And he said, while I'm

1552
01:17:02,920 --> 01:17:05,559
Speaker 2: not ready to make that announcement today, he said, we're

1553
01:17:05,600 --> 01:17:07,920
Speaker 2: going to be talking with ESPN about what they want.

1554
01:17:08,240 --> 01:17:10,360
Speaker 2: And basically he summed up that it would be his

1555
01:17:10,479 --> 01:17:13,439
Speaker 2: preference to get rid of the season tournaments next year,

1556
01:17:13,840 --> 01:17:17,559
Speaker 2: use those more on the international circuit and actually put

1557
01:17:17,600 --> 01:17:20,800
Speaker 2: their best fighters forward, let them defend titles, let them

1558
01:17:20,800 --> 01:17:24,519
Speaker 2: become names. And he claims five years running TNT that

1559
01:17:24,800 --> 01:17:27,639
Speaker 2: he has the right sort of marketing approach to take

1560
01:17:27,680 --> 01:17:30,280
Speaker 2: people like Ditch of A, you know, people like Paul Hughes,

1561
01:17:30,280 --> 01:17:33,040
Speaker 2: people like Usman and really try to make them stars.

1562
01:17:33,080 --> 01:17:36,080
Speaker 2: So this is refreshing his shit for a company that

1563
01:17:36,200 --> 01:17:38,240
Speaker 2: really felt like it was on its last chances.

1564
01:17:38,240 --> 01:17:42,240
Speaker 1: Here, here's what you have to confront BC. What happens

1565
01:17:42,240 --> 01:17:44,160
Speaker 1: if they make these changes and it doesn't save them.

1566
01:17:44,280 --> 01:17:45,080
Speaker 1: What does that tell you?

1567
01:17:47,040 --> 01:17:49,320
Speaker 2: I mean, it tells you that this is this business

1568
01:17:49,360 --> 01:17:51,679
Speaker 2: is a monopoly and no one's gonna, you know, knock

1569
01:17:51,720 --> 01:17:53,479
Speaker 2: on the door of the top. But you know what

1570
01:17:53,479 --> 01:17:55,760
Speaker 2: he wasn't saying to me throughout this interview, which you

1571
01:17:55,800 --> 01:17:58,519
Speaker 2: can listen to next week, he wasn't saying we're co

1572
01:17:58,680 --> 01:18:01,880
Speaker 2: leaders with UFC. He was actually saying that we are

1573
01:18:02,360 --> 01:18:04,720
Speaker 2: number two. We want to get better every day. We

1574
01:18:04,760 --> 01:18:08,639
Speaker 2: want to eventually be considered a competitor, but for now,

1575
01:18:08,680 --> 01:18:10,120
Speaker 2: we just want to make the best fights we can.

1576
01:18:10,200 --> 01:18:12,519
Speaker 2: And that's exactly where you would want them to be. Now,

1577
01:18:12,560 --> 01:18:15,080
Speaker 2: I did bring up Francis and Ghanu. He said he's

1578
01:18:15,080 --> 01:18:16,880
Speaker 2: going to meet with Francis for the first time next

1579
01:18:16,920 --> 01:18:20,800
Speaker 2: week in the UAE. He doesn't know if Francis wants

1580
01:18:20,840 --> 01:18:22,840
Speaker 2: to fight in MMA moving forward. They're going to talk

1581
01:18:22,840 --> 01:18:26,080
Speaker 2: about that. But unlike Don Davis who kind of ripped

1582
01:18:26,080 --> 01:18:28,960
Speaker 2: Francis for not being there for PFL Africa, this guy

1583
01:18:29,000 --> 01:18:31,479
Speaker 2: went on a rant about how good Francis has been

1584
01:18:31,560 --> 01:18:34,200
Speaker 2: for their brand as an ambassador. So it seems like

1585
01:18:34,240 --> 01:18:37,840
Speaker 2: they are trying to repair whatever issues are with Francis,

1586
01:18:38,120 --> 01:18:40,960
Speaker 2: and that's the reason why when they announced that December

1587
01:18:41,040 --> 01:18:43,400
Speaker 2: card in France that will have a heavyweight championship fight

1588
01:18:43,840 --> 01:18:47,040
Speaker 2: Nemkough against Head and Frejeda, they did not ask and

1589
01:18:47,120 --> 01:18:49,120
Speaker 2: Ghanu for that fight because they want to really figure

1590
01:18:49,160 --> 01:18:50,559
Speaker 2: out what his future is.

1591
01:18:51,040 --> 01:18:53,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, fair enough. I mean, I gotta tell you, I

1592
01:18:53,200 --> 01:18:55,160
Speaker 1: haven't heard anything from this guy yet that gives me

1593
01:18:55,200 --> 01:18:59,479
Speaker 1: anything other than belief that he's got the right idea

1594
01:18:59,640 --> 01:19:02,040
Speaker 1: about you know, where it can go b C. I

1595
01:19:02,080 --> 01:19:04,960
Speaker 1: don't know, but can he maximize what they have? I

1596
01:19:05,040 --> 01:19:07,719
Speaker 1: certainly have heard nothing yet that tells me he can't.

1597
01:19:08,040 --> 01:19:10,120
Speaker 2: Yeah. And then he said in the early talks he's

1598
01:19:10,120 --> 01:19:12,600
Speaker 2: had with ESPN that they want Ditchivo to kind of

1599
01:19:12,600 --> 01:19:14,160
Speaker 2: be the face of it, like they are.

1600
01:19:14,520 --> 01:19:18,400
Speaker 1: Interesting with good reason. I mean a your dad would

1601
01:19:18,400 --> 01:19:20,800
Speaker 1: watch and be many other dads might watch who feel

1602
01:19:20,800 --> 01:19:21,360
Speaker 1: similar to you.

1603
01:19:21,600 --> 01:19:24,280
Speaker 2: Told John Martin, I said, that's all my dad talks about,

1604
01:19:24,360 --> 01:19:26,439
Speaker 2: and he was like, yeah, here we go. That's what

1605
01:19:26,560 --> 01:19:29,160
Speaker 2: it is. All right, let's see if PFL can pull

1606
01:19:29,200 --> 01:19:31,479
Speaker 2: that off. All right. Our fifth and final topic today,

1607
01:19:32,280 --> 01:19:35,680
Speaker 2: John Jones has signed on to be what appears to

1608
01:19:35,720 --> 01:19:39,120
Speaker 2: be the head trainer of twenty twenty US Olympic gold

1609
01:19:39,120 --> 01:19:42,400
Speaker 2: medalist Gable Steveson, who is one to zero after making

1610
01:19:42,439 --> 01:19:44,920
Speaker 2: of course, his MMA debut with LFA just a few

1611
01:19:44,920 --> 01:19:48,479
Speaker 2: weeks back, and John has praised the Olympic champion as

1612
01:19:48,520 --> 01:19:53,400
Speaker 2: an inevitability that he will go on Gable Steveson to

1613
01:19:53,520 --> 01:19:56,880
Speaker 2: become UFC champion. Now tied in with this news, as

1614
01:19:56,920 --> 01:19:59,760
Speaker 2: Gable will make his return to combat sports when he

1615
01:19:59,760 --> 01:20:04,240
Speaker 2: had minds a dirty boxing card upcoming next month in

1616
01:20:04,360 --> 01:20:07,200
Speaker 2: Nashville against the guy who looks like a truck driver.

1617
01:20:07,280 --> 01:20:09,599
Speaker 2: But we'll see what happens right there. In terms of

1618
01:20:09,720 --> 01:20:13,439
Speaker 2: all time heavyweight prospects in MMA history, Luke, where do

1619
01:20:13,479 --> 01:20:17,200
Speaker 2: you think Stevenson ranks? Giving his background, his agility, given

1620
01:20:17,280 --> 01:20:19,680
Speaker 2: what we know about him at this point, is it

1621
01:20:19,720 --> 01:20:23,200
Speaker 2: fair to say he's the greatest heavyweight prospect ever? And

1622
01:20:23,400 --> 01:20:25,320
Speaker 2: what do you make of John Jones kind of going

1623
01:20:25,360 --> 01:20:26,960
Speaker 2: all in on trying to help him get there?

1624
01:20:27,479 --> 01:20:30,920
Speaker 1: Yeah? So I was wondering about this. Okay, So how

1625
01:20:30,920 --> 01:20:32,840
Speaker 1: many very quickly you see it says you're a prop?

1626
01:20:32,880 --> 01:20:36,439
Speaker 1: The prop quiz king how many fights before brock Lesnar

1627
01:20:36,560 --> 01:20:38,559
Speaker 1: won a UFC title?

1628
01:20:40,000 --> 01:20:45,280
Speaker 2: Minsu, Kim, Frankmeer and the Texas what's his name?

1629
01:20:46,200 --> 01:20:49,360
Speaker 1: Rattlesnake, No, the damn Heath Herring?

1630
01:20:49,520 --> 01:20:50,760
Speaker 2: So four right? Four?

1631
01:20:50,840 --> 01:20:54,479
Speaker 1: So then Kutor was four? Okay, I think he's got

1632
01:20:54,600 --> 01:20:57,800
Speaker 1: heavyweight prospect of all time locked up. I mean, the

1633
01:20:57,840 --> 01:21:00,840
Speaker 1: guy didn't even get to five fights and he won

1634
01:21:01,720 --> 01:21:04,000
Speaker 1: a UFC title. Now granted he beat Kator doing it,

1635
01:21:04,000 --> 01:21:06,160
Speaker 1: but Katur was a former two time heavyweight champion that

1636
01:21:06,240 --> 01:21:08,479
Speaker 1: was not you know, yes, there was a I mean,

1637
01:21:08,520 --> 01:21:10,960
Speaker 1: if you watch the fight, Brock is like comically bigger

1638
01:21:11,000 --> 01:21:16,719
Speaker 1: than him, but you get the idea. Still since Brock Lesner,

1639
01:21:16,840 --> 01:21:18,639
Speaker 1: I don't know if I've ever been this excited about

1640
01:21:18,680 --> 01:21:21,200
Speaker 1: a heavyweight prospect. You know, Frances and Gun who kind

1641
01:21:21,200 --> 01:21:22,640
Speaker 1: of came a little bit out of nowhere, so he

1642
01:21:22,680 --> 01:21:27,120
Speaker 1: wasn't heralded necessarily in that way. ABC Caine Velasquez was

1643
01:21:27,439 --> 01:21:32,920
Speaker 1: the prospect of all prospects. Cole Conrad was fighting in Bellatore,

1644
01:21:32,960 --> 01:21:35,360
Speaker 1: so he was like a hardcore fans delight. A lot

1645
01:21:35,400 --> 01:21:37,479
Speaker 1: of people weren't exactly sure about him, but yes, you

1646
01:21:37,479 --> 01:21:39,559
Speaker 1: could put him on that list. Cain I think would

1647
01:21:39,560 --> 01:21:40,640
Speaker 1: be on the list. Of the point I'm trying to

1648
01:21:40,640 --> 01:21:42,439
Speaker 1: say is look at the fucking names I'm putting him

1649
01:21:42,439 --> 01:21:44,759
Speaker 1: in company with. Now, I don't know if Gable Steveson

1650
01:21:44,760 --> 01:21:46,920
Speaker 1: will be that kind of a star in fact, because

1651
01:21:46,920 --> 01:21:48,840
Speaker 1: he's got a check her past in like a really

1652
01:21:48,880 --> 01:21:50,640
Speaker 1: horrible way, I'm not even sure if I want him to.

1653
01:21:50,880 --> 01:21:53,559
Speaker 1: But putting that aside, just like, what is the what

1654
01:21:53,640 --> 01:21:57,240
Speaker 1: is the inevitability of this? I just you know, I

1655
01:21:57,240 --> 01:22:00,960
Speaker 1: don't know how he's gonna deal with pressure from the

1656
01:22:01,320 --> 01:22:03,800
Speaker 1: broader career. I don't know how he's going to deal

1657
01:22:03,840 --> 01:22:06,439
Speaker 1: with someone punching him in the face. That does change

1658
01:22:06,479 --> 01:22:08,519
Speaker 1: the equation in ways that can be hard to predict.

1659
01:22:08,520 --> 01:22:10,360
Speaker 1: Even you can be the world's best wrestler, be an

1660
01:22:10,360 --> 01:22:12,400
Speaker 1: excellent athlete, and in certain ways be tough as shit,

1661
01:22:12,760 --> 01:22:15,280
Speaker 1: but certain people like brock Lesnarer, he wasn't a world champion,

1662
01:22:15,360 --> 01:22:19,200
Speaker 1: but like brock lesnar you could never maintain composure under fire.

1663
01:22:19,320 --> 01:22:21,960
Speaker 1: That was a real big problem for him. So these

1664
01:22:22,000 --> 01:22:23,599
Speaker 1: are things that could be limiting to him. But BC,

1665
01:22:23,760 --> 01:22:26,760
Speaker 1: how could you not consider Gable Steepson just on pure

1666
01:22:26,840 --> 01:22:32,240
Speaker 1: athletic talent, pipeline strength of the division institutions essentially backing him.

1667
01:22:32,240 --> 01:22:35,160
Speaker 1: How could you not think the Gable Stepson's not going

1668
01:22:35,160 --> 01:22:37,519
Speaker 1: to win a UFC title? How could you think that? Right?

1669
01:22:38,240 --> 01:22:41,639
Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean, does it give you any pause though

1670
01:22:41,680 --> 01:22:44,360
Speaker 2: that It didn't seem like he had the passion to

1671
01:22:44,400 --> 01:22:48,400
Speaker 2: go directly from amateur wrestling success to this that he

1672
01:22:48,960 --> 01:22:52,559
Speaker 2: need brock true, but he did have a bunch of detoys.

1673
01:22:52,560 --> 01:22:54,320
Speaker 2: He tried out pro wrestling. It seemed like it was

1674
01:22:54,320 --> 01:22:56,719
Speaker 2: his fall. That didn't work. He tried out the NFL

1675
01:22:56,800 --> 01:22:59,800
Speaker 2: thing very brock like. That didn't work. He went back

1676
01:22:59,840 --> 01:23:02,680
Speaker 2: to amateur wrestling for that extra year at Minnesota. I mean,

1677
01:23:03,040 --> 01:23:04,840
Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe that doesn't matter in the end.

1678
01:23:04,920 --> 01:23:06,960
Speaker 2: I mean it's hard to tell off of one LFA fight,

1679
01:23:07,040 --> 01:23:08,880
Speaker 2: But what we do know about him is that the

1680
01:23:08,920 --> 01:23:12,439
Speaker 2: agilities through the roof. He's got size. Hopefully for his sake,

1681
01:23:12,479 --> 01:23:15,519
Speaker 2: he has the meanness, you know, the willingness to take

1682
01:23:15,560 --> 01:23:18,840
Speaker 2: punches that you'll need to compete at heavyweight. But if

1683
01:23:18,840 --> 01:23:21,640
Speaker 2: he's got John Jones as coach, that's either gonna be

1684
01:23:21,680 --> 01:23:23,559
Speaker 2: the best choice he ever made of the worst, depending

1685
01:23:23,560 --> 01:23:26,200
Speaker 2: on where that goes. But like, he's probably gonna be

1686
01:23:26,240 --> 01:23:28,840
Speaker 2: given every chance. I mean, we talked about it before.

1687
01:23:29,040 --> 01:23:31,120
Speaker 2: I don't think he's gonna have too many fights on

1688
01:23:31,160 --> 01:23:33,040
Speaker 2: the regional scene. You gotta believe he's gonna be in

1689
01:23:33,080 --> 01:23:35,880
Speaker 2: the Contender series soon and then maybe even on the

1690
01:23:35,920 --> 01:23:38,759
Speaker 2: White House card. So he's probably gonna get every single

1691
01:23:38,840 --> 01:23:40,759
Speaker 2: opportunity here to shine.

1692
01:23:41,920 --> 01:23:43,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right they are going to put him on

1693
01:23:43,320 --> 01:23:44,679
Speaker 1: that White House card, aren't they?

1694
01:23:45,080 --> 01:23:47,280
Speaker 2: Definitely? So have you ever thought about what John Jones

1695
01:23:47,280 --> 01:23:48,240
Speaker 2: could be as a coacher.

1696
01:23:51,280 --> 01:23:53,040
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, if you have to bail your coach

1697
01:23:53,040 --> 01:23:58,760
Speaker 1: out of jail, how good could any coach be? But dude,

1698
01:23:58,760 --> 01:24:00,960
Speaker 1: he's got a wealth of knowledge. He's got a wealth

1699
01:24:01,000 --> 01:24:04,160
Speaker 1: of knowledge, he's got a wealth of experience. Again, I'm

1700
01:24:04,280 --> 01:24:08,080
Speaker 1: sidelining personal feelings and I'm saying just objectively, we also

1701
01:24:08,080 --> 01:24:09,920
Speaker 1: don't exactly know how good of a coach he could be.

1702
01:24:09,960 --> 01:24:12,439
Speaker 1: I mean, we've seen him before, like Corner Maurice Screen,

1703
01:24:12,520 --> 01:24:14,920
Speaker 1: but Marie Screen is not Gable Steveson. You know, like

1704
01:24:15,320 --> 01:24:19,840
Speaker 1: there's a different value proposition completely. So it seems like

1705
01:24:19,880 --> 01:24:22,320
Speaker 1: he's enthusiastic about a BC. I think that's the part

1706
01:24:22,360 --> 01:24:25,439
Speaker 1: that stands out to me. He seems excited about it.

1707
01:24:25,520 --> 01:24:29,920
Speaker 1: He seems eager to really lean into that role. And

1708
01:24:29,960 --> 01:24:32,280
Speaker 1: if that's the case, and he's actually like motivated to

1709
01:24:32,280 --> 01:24:34,559
Speaker 1: be a part of it, how could he not be

1710
01:24:34,640 --> 01:24:37,200
Speaker 1: a helpful factor? Right? How could he not be? He's

1711
01:24:37,240 --> 01:24:39,760
Speaker 1: got and not just of course, you know, the transitioning

1712
01:24:39,880 --> 01:24:42,760
Speaker 1: from wrestling to MMA, but then all the high level

1713
01:24:42,800 --> 01:24:46,160
Speaker 1: experience that he's got. And I understand Gable Steveson's got

1714
01:24:46,200 --> 01:24:48,000
Speaker 1: like the ultimate high level experience, But we're talking about

1715
01:24:48,000 --> 01:24:50,280
Speaker 1: in MMA, dealing with the media, dealing with some of

1716
01:24:50,280 --> 01:24:53,360
Speaker 1: these other factors that are somewhat distinct from the kind

1717
01:24:53,400 --> 01:24:55,960
Speaker 1: of thing that you get from more traditional you know,

1718
01:24:56,120 --> 01:24:59,960
Speaker 1: media coverage and traditional sporting norms. With the Olympic Games, again,

1719
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:03,400
Speaker 1: it's even bigger than MMA, obviously, I understand, but just

1720
01:25:03,400 --> 01:25:05,200
Speaker 1: just a lot. He's seen a lot, He's dealt with

1721
01:25:05,240 --> 01:25:09,519
Speaker 1: a lot, and so and again, an absurd wealth of knowledge.

1722
01:25:09,640 --> 01:25:12,519
Speaker 1: I just don't see how that doesn't help Gable Steveson.

1723
01:25:12,560 --> 01:25:13,120
Speaker 1: I really don't.

1724
01:25:13,320 --> 01:25:16,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, here's John Jones talking about his excitement of taking

1725
01:25:16,680 --> 01:25:22,639
Speaker 2: Gable on this journey. John read it? Yeah, yeah, John Jones'

1726
01:25:22,760 --> 01:25:25,360
Speaker 2: quote here. As I've always said, if I would ever

1727
01:25:25,439 --> 01:25:27,600
Speaker 2: be a coach, it would be a wrestler who was

1728
01:25:27,640 --> 01:25:31,280
Speaker 2: completely committed to success. I found my guy, and I'm

1729
01:25:31,280 --> 01:25:35,439
Speaker 2: excited to add World Championship coach to my resume.

1730
01:25:35,640 --> 01:25:38,720
Speaker 1: But making it all about him, how fucking amazing is that? Right?

1731
01:25:38,720 --> 01:25:41,160
Speaker 1: It's just John Jones. He's gonna be who he is

1732
01:25:41,840 --> 01:25:45,120
Speaker 1: till the bitter fucking end, that is what I'm making

1733
01:25:45,160 --> 01:25:47,280
Speaker 1: it all about himself. Unbelievable.

1734
01:25:47,720 --> 01:25:49,440
Speaker 2: Well this do you think this would be in conjunction

1735
01:25:49,560 --> 01:25:50,400
Speaker 2: with Jackson wink.

1736
01:25:51,280 --> 01:25:53,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think so. I mean part of it

1737
01:25:53,120 --> 01:25:55,439
Speaker 1: is probably they want to restore some glory to that, Jim,

1738
01:25:55,520 --> 01:25:57,920
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Yeah, it's got a storied

1739
01:25:57,960 --> 01:26:00,200
Speaker 1: history certainly, but it's not what it once was. To

1740
01:26:00,280 --> 01:26:02,439
Speaker 1: get credit and no things can stay what they are.

1741
01:26:02,479 --> 01:26:06,240
Speaker 1: But you know, getting getting Gable steveson there and him

1742
01:26:06,240 --> 01:26:09,080
Speaker 1: getting a world title would be we talk about comeback.

1743
01:26:09,120 --> 01:26:11,840
Speaker 1: We started this whole conversation talking about comebacks. That'd be

1744
01:26:11,920 --> 01:26:13,080
Speaker 1: quite the comeback for the gym.

1745
01:26:13,320 --> 01:26:15,400
Speaker 2: Maybe Jones has found the guy who is willing to

1746
01:26:15,439 --> 01:26:17,400
Speaker 2: fight aspinall, you know, so he doesn't have to do

1747
01:26:17,439 --> 01:26:17,920
Speaker 2: it himself.

1748
01:26:19,040 --> 01:26:21,880
Speaker 1: Dude, that's such a good point. Holy shit, you're so right.

1749
01:26:21,960 --> 01:26:24,439
Speaker 1: I guarantee you that's part of what you You fight him,

1750
01:26:24,640 --> 01:26:27,679
Speaker 1: Like remember the site where they were in dubn Dummer

1751
01:26:27,880 --> 01:26:30,840
Speaker 1: where they throw the salt shaker and then Seabst gets

1752
01:26:30,920 --> 01:26:33,760
Speaker 1: up and then Jim Carrey's like like this like that,

1753
01:26:34,640 --> 01:26:36,120
Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, fight him, fight him.

1754
01:26:36,120 --> 01:26:38,599
Speaker 2: You fight out to cam Neely there the Boston Bruins.

1755
01:26:38,680 --> 01:26:41,080
Speaker 2: Good stuff. All right, those are our five topic. It's

1756
01:26:41,200 --> 01:26:45,240
Speaker 2: time to send over into uh some fans stuff. So

1757
01:26:45,400 --> 01:26:48,479
Speaker 2: Morningcombat at gmail dot com is your opportunity to send

1758
01:26:48,560 --> 01:26:51,479
Speaker 2: us your dead wrongs, your fan subs, your complaints about

1759
01:26:51,520 --> 01:26:54,519
Speaker 2: the show, maybe even pictures of your privates. Tell Mikey

1760
01:26:54,720 --> 01:26:57,240
Speaker 2: we said hi. Uh, the first one is at our

1761
01:26:57,280 --> 01:26:59,760
Speaker 2: opportunity to take the stand if you believe something we

1762
01:26:59,800 --> 01:27:04,559
Speaker 2: say was incorrect, insensitive, maybe just straight up dead.

1763
01:27:04,360 --> 01:27:07,320
Speaker 1: Wrong, dead wrong.

1764
01:27:11,560 --> 01:27:13,800
Speaker 2: A bunch of people emailed about this, from William to

1765
01:27:13,920 --> 01:27:17,240
Speaker 2: King Bong Eel. But this was Patrick's email. He says, Hi, guys,

1766
01:27:17,520 --> 01:27:20,400
Speaker 2: massive fan in Donk from Sydney. And on the last

1767
01:27:20,400 --> 01:27:22,559
Speaker 2: episode at one hour and three minutes, Luke and BC

1768
01:27:22,800 --> 01:27:26,599
Speaker 2: mentioned that Charles never fought Derry Yush and Long Island.

1769
01:27:26,720 --> 01:27:29,840
Speaker 2: Luke mentions that it was probably ten years ago. Well,

1770
01:27:29,880 --> 01:27:32,800
Speaker 2: you're all dead wrong, because Charles ko Derry USh back

1771
01:27:32,840 --> 01:27:38,120
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty three is first losing the title. Lots

1772
01:27:38,120 --> 01:27:39,960
Speaker 2: of love, guys, keep up the good work and shout

1773
01:27:39,960 --> 01:27:43,599
Speaker 2: out to my brother and fellow massive fan and Donk Patrick. Okay,

1774
01:27:43,640 --> 01:27:46,720
Speaker 2: so this is William writing the email shouting out his

1775
01:27:46,760 --> 01:27:49,600
Speaker 2: brother Patrick. But Long Island, Luke, didn't you correct this?

1776
01:27:49,840 --> 01:27:52,320
Speaker 5: I was just gonna say they clearly didn't listen to

1777
01:27:52,400 --> 01:27:54,840
Speaker 5: the whole episode, because like two minutes after we said that.

1778
01:27:54,920 --> 01:27:56,680
Speaker 4: I corrected it in real time. But you know, I'll

1779
01:27:56,680 --> 01:27:56,880
Speaker 4: take that.

1780
01:27:56,920 --> 01:27:57,400
Speaker 1: Hell either way.

1781
01:27:57,439 --> 01:27:58,639
Speaker 4: I did say the ten year line.

1782
01:27:58,640 --> 01:27:59,800
Speaker 1: We'll take the I'll take deal.

1783
01:28:00,320 --> 01:28:02,519
Speaker 2: I think the statue of limitations wears off if we

1784
01:28:02,560 --> 01:28:03,799
Speaker 2: correct it same episode.

1785
01:28:03,840 --> 01:28:05,880
Speaker 1: Okay, if we do correct the same episode, that does

1786
01:28:05,920 --> 01:28:06,920
Speaker 1: wear it off. But whatever.

1787
01:28:07,200 --> 01:28:09,800
Speaker 2: All right, let's go to Austin from Nebraska. He says

1788
01:28:09,840 --> 01:28:11,880
Speaker 2: I got a dead wrong for BC on Monday show

1789
01:28:11,960 --> 01:28:15,000
Speaker 2: during Have You Seen? BC showed how Bud was on

1790
01:28:15,040 --> 01:28:17,720
Speaker 2: the big screen during a field goal kick for Michigan.

1791
01:28:18,080 --> 01:28:22,559
Speaker 2: BC said that quote it would work and Nebraska would win.

1792
01:28:23,400 --> 01:28:26,000
Speaker 2: This is dead wrong, as not only did Michigan's kicker

1793
01:28:26,120 --> 01:28:29,280
Speaker 2: go three for three on field goals and three for

1794
01:28:29,360 --> 01:28:33,920
Speaker 2: three on point after attempts, Michigan also won thirty to

1795
01:28:34,040 --> 01:28:37,320
Speaker 2: twenty seven. Damn, I stand corrected. I thought Nebraska had won,

1796
01:28:38,000 --> 01:28:40,400
Speaker 2: even though Bud didn't help them this time around. He

1797
01:28:40,439 --> 01:28:42,840
Speaker 2: did last year when he ran out with the team

1798
01:28:42,880 --> 01:28:46,880
Speaker 2: before their win against Shops Colorado Buffalo's and he wore

1799
01:28:47,040 --> 01:28:49,880
Speaker 2: number one forty at that time. That wouldn't have been

1800
01:28:49,920 --> 01:28:51,840
Speaker 2: last year. That would have been a while back. Also

1801
01:28:51,880 --> 01:28:53,600
Speaker 2: New England. Well, and maybe it was last year, but

1802
01:28:53,600 --> 01:28:56,520
Speaker 2: it's the wrong weight class. Also, New England or Nebraska's

1803
01:28:56,560 --> 01:28:59,880
Speaker 2: head coach and athletic director went to Bud versus Canal,

1804
01:29:00,560 --> 01:29:04,440
Speaker 2: and the hope is to have Bud fight in Nebraska's

1805
01:29:04,439 --> 01:29:07,840
Speaker 2: football stadium before he retires. Austin, I will take that.

1806
01:29:08,080 --> 01:29:10,559
Speaker 2: L I didn't check close enough. I didn't even I.

1807
01:29:10,479 --> 01:29:13,200
Speaker 1: Mean shit, I thought Nebraska keeping it close with Michigan

1808
01:29:13,320 --> 01:29:15,480
Speaker 1: was actually kind of a fucking victory in himself.

1809
01:29:15,840 --> 01:29:18,599
Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't care if either team wins, loses, or dies,

1810
01:29:18,600 --> 01:29:21,160
Speaker 2: as Luke Thomas would say, but there you go. Our

1811
01:29:21,200 --> 01:29:24,520
Speaker 2: third one here is from a fellow named owayne Apologies

1812
01:29:24,600 --> 01:29:27,040
Speaker 2: Donks for submitting a second dead wrong in the span

1813
01:29:27,120 --> 01:29:29,519
Speaker 2: of the week, but this one is a three for

1814
01:29:29,640 --> 01:29:32,280
Speaker 2: one dead wrong. At one hour and thirty five minutes

1815
01:29:32,280 --> 01:29:34,760
Speaker 2: of Monday Show, Luke claimed that brock Lesnar couldn't make

1816
01:29:34,800 --> 01:29:37,640
Speaker 2: an NFL team in his prime. This is not true.

1817
01:29:37,840 --> 01:29:41,960
Speaker 2: It was albeit a brief stint, but the Minnesota Vikings

1818
01:29:42,080 --> 01:29:44,920
Speaker 2: signed him in four and cut him due to lack

1819
01:29:44,960 --> 01:29:46,160
Speaker 2: of skill development.

1820
01:29:46,280 --> 01:29:49,360
Speaker 1: Wait wait, wait, wait did he get signed to anything

1821
01:29:49,439 --> 01:29:51,920
Speaker 1: other than the summer team practice squad.

1822
01:29:51,960 --> 01:29:54,200
Speaker 2: He was the last cut of the offseason so then

1823
01:29:54,280 --> 01:29:58,000
Speaker 2: he didn't make a fucking team. Yeah, yeah, I don't

1824
01:29:58,040 --> 01:29:58,639
Speaker 2: know that.

1825
01:29:58,960 --> 01:30:02,280
Speaker 1: What he did is not what means. That's not what

1826
01:30:02,360 --> 01:30:05,800
Speaker 1: making an NFL team means at all. You have to

1827
01:30:05,800 --> 01:30:07,839
Speaker 1: make the fifty three man roster. Correct.

1828
01:30:08,160 --> 01:30:10,439
Speaker 2: Yes, it's like a couple. It's why Shop says he

1829
01:30:10,479 --> 01:30:11,840
Speaker 2: had a cup of coffee with the Bills. But he

1830
01:30:11,880 --> 01:30:14,840
Speaker 2: didn't make a you know, a preseason or a regular season.

1831
01:30:15,840 --> 01:30:18,400
Speaker 1: But you're also not you're right. No, you're right, You're right,

1832
01:30:18,400 --> 01:30:20,200
Speaker 1: You're right, You're you're absolutely right. He did not make

1833
01:30:20,240 --> 01:30:22,639
Speaker 1: an NFL team like that. That is what it means

1834
01:30:22,680 --> 01:30:25,080
Speaker 1: to make an NFL team. It's fucking hard. It's hard,

1835
01:30:25,280 --> 01:30:25,559
Speaker 1: all right.

1836
01:30:25,600 --> 01:30:28,200
Speaker 2: The second dead wrong from Owayne came a minute later

1837
01:30:28,320 --> 01:30:31,960
Speaker 2: from Schlong Island Luke, who claimed that Dominic Reyis had

1838
01:30:31,960 --> 01:30:36,240
Speaker 2: an NFL background. This is incorrect. Reyish, while he played

1839
01:30:36,240 --> 01:30:38,719
Speaker 2: in college, never made an NFL team and was passed

1840
01:30:38,800 --> 01:30:40,880
Speaker 2: up for the draft. I believe he tried out with

1841
01:30:40,920 --> 01:30:44,000
Speaker 2: the CFL. I'm not sure on that. And then finally

1842
01:30:44,040 --> 01:30:48,160
Speaker 2: BC claimed he played cornerback when he actually played safety

1843
01:30:48,240 --> 01:30:51,479
Speaker 2: for Stony Brook College in Long Island. There cheers and

1844
01:30:51,560 --> 01:30:54,800
Speaker 2: have a good week, you three. Uh are we really

1845
01:30:54,840 --> 01:30:55,599
Speaker 2: dead wrong there?

1846
01:30:55,880 --> 01:30:58,040
Speaker 1: I mean, dude, is Greg Hardy the only guy who

1847
01:30:58,080 --> 01:31:02,040
Speaker 1: ever made a pro NFL team.

1848
01:31:01,760 --> 01:31:05,120
Speaker 4: Not to be I don't think I said he played

1849
01:31:05,120 --> 01:31:05,759
Speaker 4: in the NFL.

1850
01:31:05,880 --> 01:31:08,439
Speaker 5: I think we were picking fighters who we would choose

1851
01:31:08,479 --> 01:31:09,719
Speaker 5: to be on an NFL team.

1852
01:31:10,080 --> 01:31:12,559
Speaker 2: These dead wrongs are they're dead wrong? In fact, the

1853
01:31:12,600 --> 01:31:14,960
Speaker 2: listeners are dead wrong here Mikey's if.

1854
01:31:14,840 --> 01:31:16,639
Speaker 1: You're not careful, you'll be like, oh, in the spirit

1855
01:31:16,680 --> 01:31:18,040
Speaker 1: of humility, I want to take an l but you

1856
01:31:18,120 --> 01:31:18,960
Speaker 1: got to double check these.

1857
01:31:19,000 --> 01:31:21,680
Speaker 2: No, I will hold that l Okay John is our

1858
01:31:21,720 --> 01:31:23,960
Speaker 2: final one. He says that one hour and nine minutes

1859
01:31:24,000 --> 01:31:27,799
Speaker 2: on Monday, LT said that making an Izzy versus Poeton

1860
01:31:27,920 --> 01:31:31,240
Speaker 2: fight would be their fourth. This is dead wrong. It

1861
01:31:31,280 --> 01:31:36,080
Speaker 2: would either be number three or number five all together.

1862
01:31:36,240 --> 01:31:38,240
Speaker 1: Fair enough. I'll take that out. That's absolutely correct.

1863
01:31:38,400 --> 01:31:40,479
Speaker 2: That is a question. By the way, I asked Perrero

1864
01:31:40,600 --> 01:31:42,519
Speaker 2: whether that you can check out later today on the

1865
01:31:42,560 --> 01:31:45,280
Speaker 2: BCX whether he feels that rivalry is over or not?

1866
01:31:45,560 --> 01:31:47,799
Speaker 2: All right, so check that out. That's called a teaser.

1867
01:31:47,840 --> 01:31:54,479
Speaker 2: A cliffhanger. Who was the translator, the dude what's his name, uh, Pliny?

1868
01:31:54,560 --> 01:31:56,400
Speaker 2: The elder who's that the large guy that's always with him.

1869
01:31:56,400 --> 01:31:57,439
Speaker 1: What's his name, oh, coach?

1870
01:31:57,880 --> 01:32:03,519
Speaker 2: Whatever is the Coolino Cruz, Pelinio Cruz. Yes, yes, he

1871
01:32:03,680 --> 01:32:05,880
Speaker 2: was with him, all right. It was awkward because the

1872
01:32:05,880 --> 01:32:09,120
Speaker 2: first ten minutes Polinio wasn't there, and Alex and I

1873
01:32:09,200 --> 01:32:12,760
Speaker 2: were talking, but it was really me excitedly talking in English.

1874
01:32:12,479 --> 01:32:16,200
Speaker 1: And him, dude, how much of this interview was about Connecticut?

1875
01:32:16,680 --> 01:32:18,840
Speaker 2: I was going to slip one in, but with the

1876
01:32:18,880 --> 01:32:22,000
Speaker 2: translation that time was already over, so I didn't ask that. Ultimately,

1877
01:32:22,640 --> 01:32:24,240
Speaker 2: it would have been nice, you know, it would have

1878
01:32:24,240 --> 01:32:26,760
Speaker 2: been nice. All right. Our final segment allows you the

1879
01:32:26,800 --> 01:32:29,360
Speaker 2: opportunity to compete for Donk of the Year, send in

1880
01:32:29,439 --> 01:32:32,400
Speaker 2: pictures of Sewel's wife, or maybe show us your artwork.

1881
01:32:32,680 --> 01:32:40,720
Speaker 2: This one's called fan submissions. You've got mail fures El

1882
01:32:40,840 --> 01:32:43,439
Speaker 2: viewers is what we attract our first ones from Christian.

1883
01:32:43,479 --> 01:32:46,479
Speaker 2: He says it was awesome meeting him. Really am a

1884
01:32:46,520 --> 01:32:50,960
Speaker 2: big fan, yeah, and was kind of geeking out. Apologies

1885
01:32:51,000 --> 01:32:53,679
Speaker 2: for squinting the entire time while I was talking to Luke,

1886
01:32:53,880 --> 01:32:56,639
Speaker 2: but I was really high. I ran into Uh.

1887
01:32:56,760 --> 01:33:01,200
Speaker 1: He was the highest man I've ever so.

1888
01:33:01,680 --> 01:33:03,920
Speaker 2: For context, this is Luke Thomas last weekend in Las

1889
01:33:04,000 --> 01:33:07,400
Speaker 2: Vegas at Xcess see fifty three. Christian said, I ran

1890
01:33:07,439 --> 01:33:09,560
Speaker 2: into Robbie Lawler when he's coming out of the restroom,

1891
01:33:09,760 --> 01:33:12,760
Speaker 2: which was sick as f two. Got to meet Alexa

1892
01:33:12,880 --> 01:33:15,840
Speaker 2: and by Sunger. Also, the fighter who lost in the

1893
01:33:15,920 --> 01:33:18,360
Speaker 2: night's first spout sat in front of me and I

1894
01:33:18,400 --> 01:33:20,960
Speaker 2: got to talk to him extensively as well. Was a

1895
01:33:20,960 --> 01:33:25,120
Speaker 2: fun short event. Please watch one Championship one seventy three

1896
01:33:25,200 --> 01:33:27,679
Speaker 2: and talk about it. It's one of the most stacked

1897
01:33:27,680 --> 01:33:30,360
Speaker 2: cards I've ever seen on paper. If he if he

1898
01:33:30,439 --> 01:33:33,600
Speaker 2: hasn't seen the card, bring it up on tech Typology

1899
01:33:33,640 --> 01:33:36,280
Speaker 2: and read it to Luke. Thanks peace. I think Christian

1900
01:33:36,320 --> 01:33:38,200
Speaker 2: was high when he wrote this email too, but.

1901
01:33:38,200 --> 01:33:42,880
Speaker 1: Great, super friendly. Uh you know, talk to me after

1902
01:33:42,920 --> 01:33:46,240
Speaker 1: the show. You know, high as a kite, but you

1903
01:33:46,240 --> 01:33:47,920
Speaker 1: know him, him and the dude he was with were real,

1904
01:33:48,000 --> 01:33:49,280
Speaker 1: real cool dude show.

1905
01:33:49,360 --> 01:33:52,280
Speaker 2: Talkers talk close talker definitely, No, no.

1906
01:33:52,160 --> 01:33:54,160
Speaker 1: Not so bad. Just you know, you could just tell

1907
01:33:54,360 --> 01:33:56,280
Speaker 1: he was you know he was. He had he had

1908
01:33:56,280 --> 01:33:57,559
Speaker 1: gummies in this tummy understanding.

1909
01:33:57,600 --> 01:33:59,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Shout out to Robbi Lawler. Ga, Hi,

1910
01:33:59,720 --> 01:34:01,280
Speaker 2: a little smile, lill have smile there.

1911
01:34:01,560 --> 01:34:05,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, Robbie was there. Alexa Grosso was there, Diego Lopez

1912
01:34:05,120 --> 01:34:08,920
Speaker 1: was there, as he mentioned, Susirkayev is there? Yeah, bunch of.

1913
01:34:08,840 --> 01:34:10,720
Speaker 2: Don John Shelby I think was there too.

1914
01:34:10,760 --> 01:34:11,599
Speaker 1: Joe Shelby was there.

1915
01:34:12,360 --> 01:34:14,800
Speaker 2: All right, let's go to our second one from Doctor Sweatpants.

1916
01:34:14,840 --> 01:34:18,880
Speaker 2: What a name right there? Damned the MK shirt or sorry,

1917
01:34:19,000 --> 01:34:23,000
Speaker 2: donned the MK shirt amongst the sea of wooks with

1918
01:34:23,120 --> 01:34:26,040
Speaker 2: my fiance at Red Rocks. It was a two day

1919
01:34:26,120 --> 01:34:29,360
Speaker 2: series to celebrate the final show of Tipper and Og

1920
01:34:29,560 --> 01:34:32,400
Speaker 2: and the glitch Hop and EDM scene out of the

1921
01:34:32,520 --> 01:34:36,679
Speaker 2: uk BC. Please give him a thorough listen. You won't

1922
01:34:36,720 --> 01:34:39,720
Speaker 2: regret it. So I'm supposed to cueue up Tipper and

1923
01:34:40,080 --> 01:34:42,240
Speaker 2: EDM legend, Luke, But what do you make of Doctor

1924
01:34:42,280 --> 01:34:45,320
Speaker 2: Sweatpants rock and our tie die with his lady there

1925
01:34:45,360 --> 01:34:48,519
Speaker 2: at the world famous Red Rocks Concert Hall there in

1926
01:34:48,880 --> 01:34:52,280
Speaker 2: not hall but outdoor historic venue in Colorado.

1927
01:34:52,400 --> 01:34:56,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, the venue is sick and they seem like nice people.

1928
01:34:56,680 --> 01:34:59,680
Speaker 1: But I'd rather, you know, I'd rather be shot in

1929
01:34:59,720 --> 01:35:01,800
Speaker 1: the butt with an arrow then listen to this music.

1930
01:35:01,840 --> 01:35:02,400
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

1931
01:35:02,600 --> 01:35:06,120
Speaker 2: Okay? No Tipper on Luke's stereo later today? You think

1932
01:35:06,160 --> 01:35:08,600
Speaker 2: Shaquille MALJUDI listens to Tipper or.

1933
01:35:08,600 --> 01:35:10,519
Speaker 1: What Oh he does that and then he'll just text

1934
01:35:10,560 --> 01:35:11,960
Speaker 1: you his thoughts mid song.

1935
01:35:12,040 --> 01:35:15,479
Speaker 2: It's like yeah yeah with his piece in his hand.

1936
01:35:15,720 --> 01:35:18,360
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, no doubt about it. All right, I'll have

1937
01:35:18,720 --> 01:35:19,559
Speaker 2: what is what is that?

1938
01:35:19,840 --> 01:35:20,080
Speaker 5: Uh?

1939
01:35:20,400 --> 01:35:22,320
Speaker 2: Long Island? Look, you don't listen to d M right,

1940
01:35:22,439 --> 01:35:24,640
Speaker 2: you just take ecstasy regularly?

1941
01:35:25,360 --> 01:35:25,880
Speaker 4: No comment?

1942
01:35:26,240 --> 01:35:31,360
Speaker 2: Okay, all right? Here is Naeumania. Hi, donks. I had

1943
01:35:31,360 --> 01:35:33,600
Speaker 2: a little spare time this month, so while listening to

1944
01:35:33,640 --> 01:35:36,519
Speaker 2: my favorite MMA show, I decided to make an animation

1945
01:35:36,640 --> 01:35:38,960
Speaker 2: of your logo. This is not AI. I hope you

1946
01:35:39,080 --> 01:35:47,719
Speaker 2: like it. Oh yeah, I kind of like it a lot.

1947
01:35:47,920 --> 01:35:51,800
Speaker 2: So far, so good, Namania says, big shout out to

1948
01:35:51,840 --> 01:35:52,439
Speaker 2: the vape Master.

1949
01:35:52,560 --> 01:35:54,080
Speaker 1: Dam dude, that is fucking sick.

1950
01:35:54,360 --> 01:35:56,439
Speaker 2: Can we add that to Morning Combat? Please? Let make

1951
01:35:56,520 --> 01:35:59,280
Speaker 2: seriously big shout out to the vape Master and the

1952
01:35:59,280 --> 01:36:03,200
Speaker 2: Glizzy Buster, and greetings from Macedonia. If you ever visit

1953
01:36:03,280 --> 01:36:06,240
Speaker 2: southeastern Europe, maybe you can do a live show here.

1954
01:36:06,280 --> 01:36:08,559
Speaker 2: Just a warning in advance. We don't put urnal cakes,

1955
01:36:08,880 --> 01:36:14,160
Speaker 2: but we have super bangable wives. That's pneumonia. Long Island. Look,

1956
01:36:14,320 --> 01:36:18,759
Speaker 2: can you find use for Naumania's Macedonian MK intro.

1957
01:36:19,920 --> 01:36:22,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, mate, we can make it one of your What

1958
01:36:22,200 --> 01:36:24,880
Speaker 4: about arangatois.

1959
01:36:24,400 --> 01:36:27,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you have animation, but it's sick.

1960
01:36:27,800 --> 01:36:30,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is pretty damn sick, not Ai at all,

1961
01:36:30,320 --> 01:36:32,679
Speaker 2: So take that. Thank you, Namania. I thought your country

1962
01:36:32,760 --> 01:36:36,280
Speaker 2: was called North Macedonia. Didn't they change the name? What

1963
01:36:36,360 --> 01:36:37,920
Speaker 2: do you make a country's change in their names?

1964
01:36:37,960 --> 01:36:40,160
Speaker 1: Liz Well, I mean we we call it South Korea,

1965
01:36:40,200 --> 01:36:42,479
Speaker 1: but Koreans just don't they just call Korea?

1966
01:36:42,840 --> 01:36:45,760
Speaker 2: Probably? Yeah, yeah, all right, all right. Uh we got

1967
01:36:45,800 --> 01:36:48,080
Speaker 2: one here from Ben. He says, if Cap and Iron

1968
01:36:48,120 --> 01:36:50,439
Speaker 2: Man can go tip to tip, so can the rest

1969
01:36:50,479 --> 01:36:53,720
Speaker 2: of us. Not sure why he's holding him like that,

1970
01:36:54,080 --> 01:36:56,599
Speaker 2: but it reminded me of the duo. So here you go.

1971
01:36:57,439 --> 01:36:59,519
Speaker 1: They gave you my beard?

1972
01:37:01,439 --> 01:37:03,920
Speaker 2: Yeah they did. That's probably from that time that one

1973
01:37:03,920 --> 01:37:06,200
Speaker 2: of our donks switched up our facial hair and our

1974
01:37:06,240 --> 01:37:08,360
Speaker 2: hair on top to make us look like each other.

1975
01:37:08,800 --> 01:37:10,799
Speaker 2: What is the what are they saying in those bubbles?

1976
01:37:10,840 --> 01:37:11,320
Speaker 2: Can you read that?

1977
01:37:11,560 --> 01:37:14,120
Speaker 1: I don't, Yeah, just as Jessica Jones, Hey morning.

1978
01:37:13,880 --> 01:37:18,200
Speaker 4: It's censored by the North Korean censors. I think I

1979
01:37:18,280 --> 01:37:18,879
Speaker 4: don't know.

1980
01:37:18,880 --> 01:37:21,240
Speaker 2: By the way, did you see some of those cast

1981
01:37:21,240 --> 01:37:23,439
Speaker 2: offs that weren't allowed to be played this week. They were,

1982
01:37:23,479 --> 01:37:24,080
Speaker 2: they were racing.

1983
01:37:24,200 --> 01:37:27,799
Speaker 1: We should tell, we should tell the audience. We got Okay,

1984
01:37:28,320 --> 01:37:31,160
Speaker 1: we got some. We got several submissions this week that

1985
01:37:31,240 --> 01:37:35,439
Speaker 1: I can only tell you had me BC and the

1986
01:37:35,600 --> 01:37:41,600
Speaker 1: entire staff crying of laughter. However, when I say completely

1987
01:37:41,640 --> 01:37:45,320
Speaker 1: impossible to air without us losing our jobs BC, am

1988
01:37:45,360 --> 01:37:46,840
Speaker 1: I in any way exaggerating?

1989
01:37:47,640 --> 01:37:50,520
Speaker 2: Let's just say they involved cake Lady and a specific

1990
01:37:50,520 --> 01:37:51,519
Speaker 2: September holiday.

1991
01:37:52,600 --> 01:37:55,320
Speaker 1: Oh they involved more than that. They involved much more

1992
01:37:55,360 --> 01:38:00,800
Speaker 1: than that. I mean, all right, they didn't be It

1993
01:38:00,880 --> 01:38:02,960
Speaker 1: might have involved the BBC, but it wasn't the British

1994
01:38:03,000 --> 01:38:03,799
Speaker 1: Broadcasting Corporate.

1995
01:38:03,920 --> 01:38:06,840
Speaker 2: No, No, not that BBC. It was more like black raw.

1996
01:38:07,160 --> 01:38:09,120
Speaker 2: You know where I'm going with that. All right, Hey,

1997
01:38:09,160 --> 01:38:12,560
Speaker 2: here's wes. He says, was up LTBC and l L

1998
01:38:13,040 --> 01:38:16,120
Speaker 2: you know us tonks love y'all and off the MK.

1999
01:38:16,560 --> 01:38:18,960
Speaker 2: So I decided to ask AI what you guys do

2000
01:38:19,040 --> 01:38:22,599
Speaker 2: after leaving the MK studio and these were the results.

2001
01:38:22,760 --> 01:38:26,880
Speaker 2: First we see mister body for days, Thomas boarding public

2002
01:38:26,920 --> 01:38:28,040
Speaker 2: transportation that he loves.

2003
01:38:28,120 --> 01:38:29,840
Speaker 1: My God, look at the name of the train, it's

2004
01:38:29,880 --> 01:38:30,880
Speaker 1: the Joseph A. Bank.

2005
01:38:31,640 --> 01:38:33,920
Speaker 2: He's not ted Kaczynski, but he does have his own

2006
01:38:33,960 --> 01:38:36,680
Speaker 2: issues with technology, and it looks like he's about to

2007
01:38:36,760 --> 01:38:38,080
Speaker 2: cause an explosion.

2008
01:38:38,320 --> 01:38:40,160
Speaker 1: Haha, this is amazing.

2009
01:38:40,640 --> 01:38:42,760
Speaker 2: The second one says, we see the president of the

2010
01:38:42,760 --> 01:38:47,040
Speaker 2: Black Liver Society himself. Seems BC hasn't been paid off

2011
01:38:47,080 --> 01:38:48,760
Speaker 2: by Turkey and TKO quite yet.

2012
01:38:49,000 --> 01:38:50,599
Speaker 1: Look at the cans of whips.

2013
01:38:51,520 --> 01:38:54,720
Speaker 2: So in the meantime he's got the meats and possible

2014
01:38:54,760 --> 01:38:57,920
Speaker 2: brain damage at his current second job. I look handsome

2015
01:38:57,960 --> 01:38:59,880
Speaker 2: in that outfit, don't I Right there? That's great.

2016
01:39:00,120 --> 01:39:02,559
Speaker 1: Look your round ass face. You look like a fucking potato.

2017
01:39:03,520 --> 01:39:05,840
Speaker 2: I do right now too. The third one, Boyfriend of

2018
01:39:05,840 --> 01:39:08,800
Speaker 2: the Year, mister Bong Island, looks to be enjoying the

2019
01:39:08,920 --> 01:39:13,559
Speaker 2: seventeenth hour of live streaming PRELIMBS Regional MMA with his

2020
01:39:13,720 --> 01:39:15,240
Speaker 2: totally real girlfriend.

2021
01:39:17,560 --> 01:39:21,280
Speaker 1: Look at that plate of marijuana, dude, these are amazing.

2022
01:39:22,400 --> 01:39:25,720
Speaker 2: L I l is that your actual lady there? No?

2023
01:39:26,000 --> 01:39:28,280
Speaker 4: Obviously not sure.

2024
01:39:28,360 --> 01:39:30,720
Speaker 2: I wasn't sure if she was GoF like that. I

2025
01:39:30,760 --> 01:39:33,760
Speaker 2: really wasn't sure. All right, Hope you guys and the

2026
01:39:33,800 --> 01:39:37,160
Speaker 2: donks enjoyed this little insight to your lives outside the show.

2027
01:39:37,280 --> 01:39:39,639
Speaker 2: Salute it's West. Well done, West, Well done.

2028
01:39:39,840 --> 01:39:41,040
Speaker 1: Very well done, very funny.

2029
01:39:41,520 --> 01:39:43,120
Speaker 2: All right, we got a guy here who doesn't use

2030
01:39:43,160 --> 01:39:46,720
Speaker 2: AI at all, and he's an artiste, average Joe art

2031
01:39:46,720 --> 01:39:49,240
Speaker 2: who says, I've been thinking about doing something like this

2032
01:39:49,320 --> 01:39:52,080
Speaker 2: with MK for years, and I was finally able to

2033
01:39:52,080 --> 01:39:55,000
Speaker 2: pull the trigger. Playing off my love for old monster

2034
01:39:55,160 --> 01:39:59,640
Speaker 2: pulp artwork. I present Frank and Luke meets Donkula, the

2035
01:40:00,160 --> 01:40:02,919
Speaker 2: swashed Monster mash in history.

2036
01:40:03,880 --> 01:40:07,880
Speaker 1: Oh my god.

2037
01:40:08,240 --> 01:40:08,320
Speaker 3: He.

2038
01:40:10,240 --> 01:40:12,840
Speaker 2: Says. Also included are some of the concept sketches I

2039
01:40:12,840 --> 01:40:16,040
Speaker 2: did along the way. LT was much trickier to figure out,

2040
01:40:16,320 --> 01:40:18,640
Speaker 2: since the initial sketch ended up looking more like a

2041
01:40:18,680 --> 01:40:21,759
Speaker 2: bearded James Gun. I saw an ad for Mars attacks

2042
01:40:21,800 --> 01:40:24,599
Speaker 2: and decided to go with that open brain idea. If

2043
01:40:24,600 --> 01:40:26,080
Speaker 2: you look at the sketch, you can see what's on

2044
01:40:26,200 --> 01:40:29,800
Speaker 2: LT's mind. Donkeylo was much much easier to figure out.

2045
01:40:30,080 --> 01:40:32,000
Speaker 2: If you can, please make sure you zoom in on

2046
01:40:32,080 --> 01:40:35,200
Speaker 2: his attire and the credits at the bottom. This is

2047
01:40:35,280 --> 01:40:36,320
Speaker 2: great work from Joe.

2048
01:40:36,360 --> 01:40:39,120
Speaker 1: Wow, this is look at that. Oh, we're just setting

2049
01:40:39,120 --> 01:40:41,360
Speaker 1: it up for the sales. Of course. We are that

2050
01:40:41,360 --> 01:40:45,639
Speaker 1: that one is special. That one is special. I want,

2051
01:40:45,720 --> 01:40:48,479
Speaker 1: but I can't read. There's a button that you're wearing

2052
01:40:48,520 --> 01:40:49,320
Speaker 1: what does it say?

2053
01:40:49,840 --> 01:40:51,799
Speaker 2: Long a look? Can you read that on yours?

2054
01:40:53,439 --> 01:40:53,679
Speaker 1: Fuck?

2055
01:40:53,680 --> 01:40:55,479
Speaker 4: He sent me a text of it. Let me let

2056
01:40:55,479 --> 01:40:57,120
Speaker 4: me check the text.

2057
01:40:57,320 --> 01:40:59,320
Speaker 2: Uh. He would also say, while I continue to get

2058
01:40:59,320 --> 01:41:02,679
Speaker 2: hounded for l T ANDBCX solo merch, there's one idea

2059
01:41:02,720 --> 01:41:05,880
Speaker 2: I get asked about the most as an animal dad. Now,

2060
01:41:05,920 --> 01:41:08,840
Speaker 2: if twelve I couldn't resist. I feel like it was

2061
01:41:08,880 --> 01:41:12,120
Speaker 2: appropriate for the month of October. So that's probably Joe's

2062
01:41:12,439 --> 01:41:15,920
Speaker 2: Oh boy, oh boy, look at that. Look at mister

2063
01:41:15,960 --> 01:41:16,960
Speaker 2: October right there.

2064
01:41:17,600 --> 01:41:20,320
Speaker 1: Imagine the light in his eyes going away when I

2065
01:41:21,479 --> 01:41:23,200
Speaker 1: euthanization rip booger.

2066
01:41:23,240 --> 01:41:25,679
Speaker 2: Come on, look, imagine that on an MK shirt.

2067
01:41:25,720 --> 01:41:28,360
Speaker 1: That is That's cool, that's great. Yeah, that's great. Reggie

2068
01:41:28,439 --> 01:41:29,639
Speaker 1: Jackson is the man I love.

2069
01:41:29,760 --> 01:41:32,920
Speaker 5: Oh shot out Well, to go back to the button,

2070
01:41:32,960 --> 01:41:37,240
Speaker 5: the button says one blood instead of one love Oh nice,

2071
01:41:37,600 --> 01:41:40,519
Speaker 5: and then the tie has like stripes on it, and

2072
01:41:40,560 --> 01:41:42,680
Speaker 5: each stripe says one fifteen on it.

2073
01:41:43,040 --> 01:41:45,080
Speaker 2: Oh, that is brilliant right there.

2074
01:41:45,320 --> 01:41:51,360
Speaker 5: Wow, LT's brain says like bbl's stress and something else.

2075
01:41:51,600 --> 01:41:53,599
Speaker 2: I love that. It's like a comic book cover there.

2076
01:41:53,600 --> 01:41:55,400
Speaker 2: That would make a good shirt, you know.

2077
01:41:56,120 --> 01:41:58,080
Speaker 4: Damn it makes my joaster too.

2078
01:41:58,680 --> 01:42:01,280
Speaker 1: Joe would close the energy It says energy drinking.

2079
01:42:02,400 --> 01:42:05,439
Speaker 2: Well, Joe says, while it may be ineligible to retain

2080
01:42:05,520 --> 01:42:08,240
Speaker 2: my twenty twenty three Donk of the Year status, I

2081
01:42:08,400 --> 01:42:10,520
Speaker 2: like to think I would have been a strong contender

2082
01:42:10,600 --> 01:42:14,080
Speaker 2: this year. Saoul A has us all beat with that

2083
01:42:14,240 --> 01:42:17,519
Speaker 2: dimebag action figure. Well, there's still time this year. I'm

2084
01:42:17,520 --> 01:42:20,400
Speaker 2: sure both guys are in nomination. Luke, would you guess that.

2085
01:42:20,960 --> 01:42:23,400
Speaker 1: I would guess that that would be correct? Yes?

2086
01:42:23,439 --> 01:42:26,720
Speaker 2: All right? That is your fan submissions. Remember you can

2087
01:42:26,760 --> 01:42:31,000
Speaker 2: send in your own to Morning Combat at gmail dot com.

2088
01:42:31,040 --> 01:42:34,440
Speaker 2: And speaking of merch, one final time here for September.

2089
01:42:34,840 --> 01:42:37,519
Speaker 2: It's your last chance here to get the exclusive Black

2090
01:42:37,560 --> 01:42:42,920
Speaker 2: Liver Society Cracker Barrel lt or the signed TMNT poster.

2091
01:42:43,880 --> 01:42:48,479
Speaker 2: Head on over to Morning Combat dot shop. Don't forget

2092
01:42:48,520 --> 01:42:51,599
Speaker 2: we got evergreen items there. You can mix the callers.

2093
01:42:51,640 --> 01:42:55,120
Speaker 2: Get one for your a Bueila before her wake. Great

2094
01:42:55,160 --> 01:42:58,800
Speaker 2: stuff right there, all right. Also, this podcast has been

2095
01:42:58,840 --> 01:43:05,120
Speaker 2: presented to you by Draftings DraftKings. The Crown is yours

2096
01:43:05,160 --> 01:43:08,160
Speaker 2: nearly two hours of fury on this Friday. I hope

2097
01:43:08,160 --> 01:43:10,160
Speaker 2: all you are doing well. I hope you enjoy the

2098
01:43:10,200 --> 01:43:13,200
Speaker 2: Perth fights. If that's your pleasure. On Saturday, you can

2099
01:43:13,600 --> 01:43:16,080
Speaker 2: like and subscribe. It goes a long way for this show,

2100
01:43:16,560 --> 01:43:19,240
Speaker 2: and also support our channels. Don't forget. I got Alex

2101
01:43:19,320 --> 01:43:23,000
Speaker 2: Pereira today, pfl's John Martin next week. Lou you got

2102
01:43:23,000 --> 01:43:23,840
Speaker 2: anything to plug?

2103
01:43:25,240 --> 01:43:27,679
Speaker 1: I was gonna do a watch along for Saturday's card,

2104
01:43:27,760 --> 01:43:30,240
Speaker 1: but I don't think I'm gonna do one it. I

2105
01:43:30,280 --> 01:43:32,760
Speaker 1: don't know if anyone's gonna be watching. However, I will

2106
01:43:32,760 --> 01:43:35,519
Speaker 1: have something ready on Sunday morning for a recap, so

2107
01:43:35,520 --> 01:43:36,080
Speaker 1: that should be fun.

2108
01:43:36,120 --> 01:43:39,080
Speaker 2: Okay, Bong Island, Luke, can we send people to the

2109
01:43:39,080 --> 01:43:42,000
Speaker 2: main card minute for anything? Maybe in like forty minutes?

2110
01:43:42,320 --> 01:43:45,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, and forty minutes Championship drops BC vers Shack. Also

2111
01:43:45,880 --> 01:43:47,720
Speaker 5: tomorrow I'll be doing a full card watch along. It's

2112
01:43:47,720 --> 01:43:49,360
Speaker 5: part baby. You know I'll be there also, go to

2113
01:43:49,479 --> 01:43:50,160
Speaker 5: Long Cats Bro.

2114
01:43:50,320 --> 01:43:55,480
Speaker 1: How are you prioritizing this card over a genuine human contact?

2115
01:43:56,360 --> 01:43:58,720
Speaker 4: I have a family party. We talked about this pre show.

2116
01:43:58,720 --> 01:44:00,559
Speaker 5: I got a party to go do Saturday, and then

2117
01:44:00,600 --> 01:44:03,000
Speaker 5: you know it's everyone's complaining about this late start.

2118
01:44:03,040 --> 01:44:05,599
Speaker 4: It's actually working out perfectly for me, so I'll take it.

2119
01:44:07,280 --> 01:44:07,479
Speaker 2: There.

2120
01:44:07,479 --> 01:44:10,040
Speaker 4: It is, Thank you very much, thank you very much.

2121
01:44:10,160 --> 01:44:12,479
Speaker 1: You know he's not a school shooter, but he also

2122
01:44:12,600 --> 01:44:14,160
Speaker 1: needs to touch grass, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: Wow? Wow, I go out barefoot every night to take

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Speaker 2: the dogs out Looke just to just to get grounded.

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's not a real thing, but it doesn't surprise me,

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Speaker 1: be it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I believe in dom Reis. On Saturday, let's see

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Speaker 2: what happens even though I picked him. Oh yeah, but

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Speaker 2: I believe in him deep inside. You know what I'm

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Speaker 2: hedging pick him.

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Speaker 1: You didn't pick him, but you want him to win.

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Speaker 2: That is how it works. Yes, that is how it works.

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Speaker 2: Shout out to Carlos Oldberg. Though I do like him

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Speaker 2: as well. It would be interesting to see if he

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Speaker 2: could get a finish here and advance on. But that's

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Speaker 2: it for the show for this guy, Reggie, who's going

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Speaker 2: to be on a T shirt one day. Rich Can

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Speaker 2: you play ball here for a second? Oh yeah, look

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Speaker 2: at this handsome fellow. Look at this.

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Speaker 1: Yoh he does not want to be up in your grill.

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Speaker 2: Oh he's looking at the birds out the window. That

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Speaker 2: that takes priority. Sorry Rech for Long Island, Luke for LT.

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Speaker 2: This has been morning combat enjoy your weekend, take care

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Speaker 2: of yourselves. Monday, we'll be back from home, but don't

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Speaker 2: forget a week from today in Studio LTBC Cuervo, UFC

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Speaker 2: three twenty pregame preview featuring special guests Jed Meshu number two.

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Speaker 2: Don't miss it. We are out of here.