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Speaker 1: especially in the AFC, Like the Chiefs. Let's face it,

428
00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:40,119
Speaker 1: I mean it got a little harder last year even

429
00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:42,560
Speaker 1: though they won fifteen games. They're gonna have a year

430
00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:45,360
Speaker 1: and they might go on a fifteen year run, right,

431
00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:48,000
Speaker 1: assuming Andy's healthy and can coach that they could have

432
00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:50,119
Speaker 1: another six seven years of winning at a high level.

433
00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:51,879
Speaker 1: One of those years they might not win the division.

434
00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:54,639
Speaker 1: Happened to the Patriots the year Tom Brady got hurt.

435
00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:56,960
Speaker 1: They still won eleven games. They lost the division. One year.

436
00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:58,720
Speaker 1: You could win twelve and a team in your division

437
00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:02,399
Speaker 1: win thirteen. It could happen, right to me. The Ravens like,

438
00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:05,120
Speaker 1: it's not crazy. If everything went right for the Bengals

439
00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:08,080
Speaker 1: and they had another incredible offensive year, maybe they could

440
00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:11,480
Speaker 1: win twelve assuming Trey comes back, everything works right, and

441
00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:14,399
Speaker 1: the Steelers the defense is unreal. You win eleven twelve games,

442
00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:17,880
Speaker 1: like it's foresee. The Bills like, no chance. They don't

443
00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:20,159
Speaker 1: want to. That would be the biggest shocking probably in

444
00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:22,159
Speaker 1: the league. Like the Bills feel like a lock to

445
00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:24,439
Speaker 1: win the division. I just look at the Houston Texans

446
00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:28,720
Speaker 1: and I go the Indianapolis Colts today put out that

447
00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:33,439
Speaker 1: it's Anthony Richson or Daniel Jones at quarterback. Anytime you

448
00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:35,639
Speaker 1: want to be a playoff team and you have to

449
00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:38,199
Speaker 1: put two guys with or in the middle as your

450
00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:41,000
Speaker 1: starting quarterback, I'm out now. You guys know where I stand.

451
00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:42,919
Speaker 1: I think Daniel Jones is gonna end up being the

452
00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:46,400
Speaker 1: starting quarterback, but you know, at the end of the day,

453
00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:49,080
Speaker 1: they'll probably both end up playing throughout the year. I

454
00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:53,280
Speaker 1: think the Colts, you know, got some issues. The Titans,

455
00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:55,760
Speaker 1: who I actually think are going to be better because

456
00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:59,720
Speaker 1: defensively it's pretty solid. Their quarterback situation could not have

457
00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:01,960
Speaker 1: been in a worse last year. I mean, Will Levis

458
00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:04,000
Speaker 1: knew that he was probably about to get cut and

459
00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:06,560
Speaker 1: it was like, oh, yeah, cut my shoulder, because who

460
00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:09,320
Speaker 1: gets surgery right before training camp. Little weird situation there.

461
00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:12,040
Speaker 1: But the Titans are going to be improved just because

462
00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:13,600
Speaker 1: I actually think cam Ward is going to be pretty

463
00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:17,879
Speaker 1: solid NFL player. But they're not sniffing the division championship,

464
00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:20,320
Speaker 1: and the Jags are the Jacks like on paper, they

465
00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:23,880
Speaker 1: don't look that terrible. Travis Hunters playing both ways. Can

466
00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:27,119
Speaker 1: Liam Cohen resurrect Trevor Lawrence. Defensively, they got some pieces

467
00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:30,040
Speaker 1: on the defensive line. But I just don't see how

468
00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:31,840
Speaker 1: the Texans don't win this division for a third time.

469
00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:36,639
Speaker 1: Plus one ten love that, I would say. Speaking of

470
00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:41,399
Speaker 1: the Chiefs, I've been I've bet against them just based

471
00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:43,280
Speaker 1: on like, oh, this is the year. You know two

472
00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:45,480
Speaker 1: years ago the Ravens were gonna beat him the Niners

473
00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:47,480
Speaker 1: in the playoffs. Last year is like, oh, this is

474
00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:50,240
Speaker 1: the year the Bills take him down, right, and it

475
00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:53,560
Speaker 1: hasn't happened, right. Hell, then I take him in the

476
00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:56,640
Speaker 1: Super Bowl and they get blown out one of these years.

477
00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,240
Speaker 1: I think the Chiefs are gonna be good, but like

478
00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:02,040
Speaker 1: you get the Broncos, like, I just think there's value here.

479
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:05,160
Speaker 1: Denver last year went three and three in the division,

480
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 1: and if it wasn't for a block field goal, they

481
00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:09,320
Speaker 1: would have beat the Chiefs. They would have gone for

482
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:11,920
Speaker 1: in too. They went six and two at home, which

483
00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 1: obviously mile high. The elevation is a advantage for them,

484
00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,359
Speaker 1: and they have an onlygue defense, as we know, the

485
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:23,639
Speaker 1: coach loves the quarterback. I just think there's value there.

486
00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:26,920
Speaker 1: Plus three hundred and I think I'm going to put

487
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:31,359
Speaker 1: a just a chunk of change on there. I'm not

488
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:33,440
Speaker 1: putting them on the same tier as the Houston Texans,

489
00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:36,040
Speaker 1: who feel like a lock. But I do think there's

490
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:38,879
Speaker 1: value with the Denver Broncos, who we might look up.

491
00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:40,520
Speaker 1: By mid season, they were one of the best teams

492
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:43,640
Speaker 1: in the league. You guys know where I stand when

493
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:47,960
Speaker 1: it comes to the NFC North. I'm taking the Packers

494
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:53,520
Speaker 1: to win this division. I think listen, Minnesota's roster is awesome,

495
00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:57,120
Speaker 1: their coaching staff's really good. We know nothing about their quarterback,

496
00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:00,600
Speaker 1: and if it turns out he's just average a best,

497
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:03,639
Speaker 1: maybe a little bit below, that can derail the season.

498
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 1: Like if you it impacts the way you call plays,

499
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:09,879
Speaker 1: and then if he's off, it puts so much pressure

500
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:12,400
Speaker 1: on the defense to be perfect. Never forget last year

501
00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:15,040
Speaker 1: early in the season, when they came out the gates swinging,

502
00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:17,600
Speaker 1: they were up like twenty eight to nothing, twenty eight

503
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:19,879
Speaker 1: to nothing before you'd even blink. I remember two of

504
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:21,720
Speaker 1: their first three games of the season were against the

505
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:23,920
Speaker 1: Texans and the forty nine ers, and they just beat

506
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,959
Speaker 1: the shit out of them. And Darnold's making these incredible throws.

507
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:29,600
Speaker 1: He hit this bomb against the Niners. I remember they

508
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,119
Speaker 1: killed the Texans, Like, God, how good is this team?

509
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:35,159
Speaker 1: But a huge reason was the quarterback, right, because when

510
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:38,440
Speaker 1: your quarterback's making plays, everything builds off that. Their defense

511
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:41,240
Speaker 1: was humming. Now roster wise, they're better this year than

512
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:44,120
Speaker 1: they were last year, but their quarterback threw thirty five

513
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 1: touchdowns the Bears, I don't even know if the head

514
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:50,159
Speaker 1: coach likes the quarterback. And then the Lions. I'm not

515
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,679
Speaker 1: overreacting to the Hall of Fame game. I know Coward

516
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:57,879
Speaker 1: thinks the coordinator changes, right, he judged the third stringers,

517
00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:02,399
Speaker 1: but like they do have two pretty big coordinator changes.

518
00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:05,400
Speaker 1: And Johnny Morton, you know, for a guy the Dan

519
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:09,479
Speaker 1: Campbell loves and John Gruden loves and Sean Payton loves,

520
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 1: why wasn't this guy more dominant offensive coordinator throughout you know,

521
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:15,560
Speaker 1: the course of his career. This is a guy. It's

522
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:17,240
Speaker 1: not like he's thirty years old. I mean, this is

523
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:20,560
Speaker 1: a guy in his mid fifties. And then defensively, like

524
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 1: losing Aaron Glenn is a real thing. He was easily

525
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,199
Speaker 1: one of the best defensive coordinators of the last four

526
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:28,359
Speaker 1: or five years. Like you would put him on a

527
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 1: tier with like a Fangio A sala A, Demico Ryans

528
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 1: Mike McDonald like he was big time and there's just

529
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 1: gonna be a drop off. Most guys at defensive coordinator.

530
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:42,880
Speaker 1: To me, it's easier to find offensive coordinators, right, not

531
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,000
Speaker 1: saying that every offensive coordinator is gonna be good. We

532
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:46,960
Speaker 1: see a lot of guys flame out. But if you've

533
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:49,840
Speaker 1: studied long enough with the right people and just the

534
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,480
Speaker 1: instincts of calling play, especially if you're a former quarterback

535
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:54,720
Speaker 1: or you know, former skill guy, it's kind of comes

536
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:58,720
Speaker 1: naturally to you. Defensively, it's twofold. One you need the

537
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:00,960
Speaker 1: talent on that side of the ball, and two you

538
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 1: like have to be pretty smart, so you can't. It's

539
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 1: not just it's like you know, on offense, it's very cerebral.

540
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 1: You don't have to be a super tough guy if

541
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:11,439
Speaker 1: you're an offensive coordinator. That's why we've seen some of

542
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 1: these quarterbacks, like Andy Reid's an outlier. He's a former

543
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:18,120
Speaker 1: offensive lineman. Most guys are former quarterbacks, and I would

544
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,400
Speaker 1: say quarterbacks aren't like the toughest guy in the room.

545
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:23,680
Speaker 1: But defensively, you kind of got to be a tough motherfucker, right,

546
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 1: But you also got to be really cerebral, Like, yeah,

547
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:28,000
Speaker 1: Vic Fangio when you listen to him, talk like pretty

548
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:31,240
Speaker 1: old school, pretty rough, but he's brilliant and he knows

549
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:34,240
Speaker 1: his defense inside and out. So like, is there gonna

550
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 1: be a drop off on defense? They were winning games

551
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,679
Speaker 1: last year on defense with me and you playing linebacker

552
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 1: and dB and defensive line. I don't know if there's

553
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,119
Speaker 1: a margin for error losing Aaron Glenn like that. So

554
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 1: I just think there's a lot of question marks in

555
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 1: the division that has a ton of talent. In Green

556
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 1: Bay plus two fifty like I'm taking, and then I

557
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,679
Speaker 1: think the best value in the entire league is this

558
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 1: Seattle at five to one. I think sometimes the Rams

559
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,640
Speaker 1: are discussed like they're the Eagles or the Chiefs. They

560
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 1: won ten games last year, and listen, they played the

561
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:09,919
Speaker 1: Eagles better than any team in the playoffs. They had

562
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 1: them on the ropes and it felt like they were

563
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 1: driving to win the game. I mean technically they literally were,

564
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 1: and they were hot at the end of the season.

565
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 1: But I think we talk about them like they're a

566
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:24,960
Speaker 1: fourteen to fifteen win team. One currently, their quarterback is

567
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:27,359
Speaker 1: week to week with a back injury and we're talking

568
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 1: three plus weeks now and no end in sight. And

569
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 1: if they got to play Jimmy Garoppolo, if they've been

570
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 1: winning ten games with the thirty seven, thirty six, thirty

571
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:37,920
Speaker 1: eight year old Matt Stafford, they're not winning ten games

572
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 1: with Jimmy Garoppolo. I don't care how much Sean McVay

573
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 1: gasses them. Uth. The forty nine ers, who I still

574
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 1: think are pretty valuable, and they are they favored to

575
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:49,240
Speaker 1: win the division, got a lot of question marks. One,

576
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 1: they just had to cut a kicker today because they

577
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:55,479
Speaker 1: were in a kicking competition, but they needed the roster

578
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 1: spot because they have so many injuries at training camp.

579
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:00,480
Speaker 1: Their team is not as deep as it was in

580
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 1: years past. They had to let a lot of guys go.

581
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 1: They're gonna be very dependent on young rookies. Which listen,

582
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 1: rookies gonna have a good game. Rookies can have a

583
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 1: good month, but most rookies, even guys that go on

584
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 1: to be Hall of Famers, don't have great rookie seasons.

585
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 1: And then the Cardinals, like I know, they're getting a

586
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 1: lot of like underground, They're like this hipster pick right

587
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 1: now is like the Cardinals I'm just not picking a

588
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 1: team with Kyler Murrays or starting quarterback to win the division.

589
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 1: The Seattle Seahawks went ten and seven last year. They

590
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 1: had the same record as the Rams. They were the

591
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 1: best play of Sam Darnold's career when he threw the

592
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 1: game winning touchdown against them in Seattle. From winning eleven

593
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 1: and just winning the division, the thing that jumps out

594
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 1: to me is they went three and six at home.

595
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 1: They were not very good at home. Well, I would say,

596
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 1: like this Seattle team, there's gonna be a lot of

597
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 1: buzz coming into the season. I'd imagine at worst they're

598
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 1: gonna be four and four at home. Honestly, they should

599
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 1: win five or six games at home because of the

600
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 1: schedule this year and the teams that the NFC West plays,

601
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 1: the two South divisions, pretty big advantage. They had an

602
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 1: excellent draft. Sam Darnold, Like, even if he's not the

603
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 1: version that we saw in Minnesota. Guy just chucking touchdowns

604
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 1: to Justin Jefferson. Throw thirty five touchdowns? Why can't he

605
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 1: throw twenty seven? Clint Kubiaks the offensive coordinated. They're gonna

606
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 1: run the Shanahan system. He already knows it. They got

607
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 1: some good pieces on offense. I'm not saying this is

608
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 1: I think the Texans are gonna win the division. I

609
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 1: think the Packers are gonna win the division. I think

610
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 1: Denver there's just value there. I wouldn't bet my life

611
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 1: savings on it. I think this is by far the

612
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:46,320
Speaker 1: best value on the board and worth taking a flyer,

613
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 1: because I think there's just so many question marks. Arizona's

614
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 1: just a yearly question mark. The forty nine ers, I mean,

615
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 1: are they gonna what are they gonna look like by

616
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 1: the time the season comes around from an injury standpoint,

617
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 1: and the rams fucking quarterback can't even practice. And it's

618
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 1: not one of those like, hey, we're just giving him

619
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:05,959
Speaker 1: the reust. His back hurts and he's already old. And

620
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 1: let's face it, for a guy thirty six thirty seven

621
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 1: years old, he's pretty weathered given how many hits he take.

622
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 1: And I love the guy, but if he's gonna be

623
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 1: missing games, like, I'm just not buying into them. With

624
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo, and speaking of I love gambling, it's one

625
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:24,959
Speaker 1: of the greatest stories I've ever seen because the balls

626
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,480
Speaker 1: it would take and the belief in what you're doing

627
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 1: would it's second to none. And I'm a huge believer

628
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 1: in betting on yourself. And you know, your gut and

629
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 1: your instincts in life have to carry you sometimes in

630
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 1: big decisions. I know some of you are very trying

631
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 1: to be very objective and break things down, just try

632
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 1: to quantify everything. I'm a bigging instincts and gut guy,

633
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 1: so I've made decisions before based on gut. I'm not

634
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 1: saying it's always gonna work, but to me, it tends

635
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 1: to lead you in the right way. This AI AI,

636
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 1: I can't even speak artificial intelligence arms race is insane.

637
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 1: I mean, Mark Zuckerberg is paying people, stealing them from

638
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 1: other companies and paying them like their their Luca or

639
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 1: Yannis or Steph Curry. And he's paying people hundreds of

640
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 1: millions of dollars, people in their late twenties early mid thirties,

641
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 1: like their NBA players. He's giving them two hundred and

642
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 1: fifty million dollar contracts. I saw this tweet today that

643
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 1: just blew my mind that Zuckerberg offered this guy to

644
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 1: be the head CEO of this crew that he's built

645
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 1: one point five billion dollars. He's trying to build the

646
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 1: AI dream team. And he wanted this guy to be

647
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 1: his lead dog. He offered Andrew Tullock, a next meta

648
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 1: and top tier talent, a four year contract that included salary,

649
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 1: equity bonuses that totaled around one point five billion dollars.

650
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 1: You know what Andrew said. He said no because he

651
00:32:56,440 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 1: owned three point seventy five percent of his own AI

652
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 1: startup thinking machines. I mean, that's got like, you know,

653
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 1: some sci fi movie written all over it. But evaluations

654
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 1: keep pumping. The thought is that it's a potential three

655
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 1: plus billion dollar pay day for this guy. Here's the thing,

656
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 1: Zucker's Zuckerberg's offer getting the know he needs this to survive,

657
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 1: this Andrew character until his own company IPOs, and there's

658
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 1: no guarantee. And listen, everyone in the finance world thinks

659
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 1: this AI bubble is going to go on for a while.

660
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 1: And it's not even a bubble. It's a real thing.

661
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 1: I've known people in the alcohol industry that I had

662
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 1: a buddy telling me a story, Like last year, I

663
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 1: was actually at my wedding about some of these craft

664
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 1: breweries that you know, years ago, within the last five, ten,

665
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 1: fifteen years, were the apple of everyone's eye. And these

666
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 1: big you know, Budweiser, Corps, Light or Miller Cores like

667
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,720
Speaker 1: the big dogs would pay fifty eighty one hundred and

668
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 1: two hundred million dollars for these little guys and they

669
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:00,959
Speaker 1: would sell out and they'd become really rich and it

670
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 1: was awesome. And then there was a line when beer

671
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 1: wasn't selling at the same rate and craft breweries weren't

672
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 1: valued it the same way. And some people that turned

673
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:13,359
Speaker 1: down valuations of seventy five million dollars thinking that within

674
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 1: a year they would get one hundred and eighty million dollars.

675
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:19,239
Speaker 1: A year came and they were told, we don't want

676
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 1: to buy your business, and your business is now trending

677
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 1: in the wrong way, and you got either going out

678
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 1: of business written all over you or just kind of

679
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 1: surviving on a yearly basis written all over you. So listen,

680
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:34,319
Speaker 1: I commend this cat takes balls, it takes stones to

681
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 1: turn down. A lot of human beings, over the course

682
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:41,880
Speaker 1: of their life, will say no when it comes to money.

683
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 1: It's like, hey, this new job, I'm making one hundred

684
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 1: and twenty five K. You're offering me one hundred and

685
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:49,399
Speaker 1: sixty K. But I got to move. I don't want

686
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 1: to do it. Athletes do it, people do it all

687
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:56,239
Speaker 1: the time, but one point five billion dollars to say

688
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 1: no on the fact that your thing is gonna hit

689
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 1: you talk about belief. You think Sean Payton believes in

690
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 1: bo Nick's this guy believes. I mean, he couldn't believe

691
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 1: anymore because to turn down that type money for your contract,

692
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 1: it's not like tying my entire life in for four years.

693
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:19,720
Speaker 1: It even fails. I'm filthy rich. So you gotta commend

694
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,839
Speaker 1: him for I guess having stones in a belief in

695
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 1: his own company. Okay, let's do a little mail bag

696
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 1: at John Middlecoff. At John middlecof is the Instagram fire

697
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:44,239
Speaker 1: in those dms? Get your questions answer here on the show.

698
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 1: Here's the thing. We're gonna go rapid fire because I

699
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 1: got a lot trying to get to everyone. I know

700
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:51,360
Speaker 1: I'm still missing a lot, but I'm really trying. I

701
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:53,840
Speaker 1: really am. So if I've left you out, either re

702
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 1: hit me back up or keep firing in there. Question

703
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 1: for the bag. If you were starting to franchise today,

704
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 1: who are the guys you would take over? CJ. The

705
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 1: point of this is the future, So considerations keeping guys

706
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 1: like Stafford out next five to seven years. Well, I

707
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:16,719
Speaker 1: don't think the top four changes, right, Mahomes, Allen, Burrow,

708
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 1: and Lamar are just their locks to be the first

709
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 1: four guys taken. Then I think you start having conversations.

710
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:27,360
Speaker 1: I think last year I had him as my fifth quarterback.

711
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:30,360
Speaker 1: I had him above Herbert. You know, Jared Goff was

712
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:33,760
Speaker 1: coming off a really really good year. You know Dak,

713
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 1: Jalen was. I just had him above all those guys,

714
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:40,839
Speaker 1: and then Jayden Daniels appeared. So I would say, right now,

715
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:45,880
Speaker 1: again we have more CJ. Stroud information, I would take Jayden,

716
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 1: but I think then you could have the conversation of

717
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,880
Speaker 1: him for the next five to seven years in the

718
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 1: mix of all these guys like Eagles fans like you

719
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,320
Speaker 1: taking Jalen Hurts like, yeah, I've seen Jalen play excellent

720
00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 1: super Bowl? Like can he throw from with in the

721
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 1: pocket for the next five years? I mean that's a

722
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:04,399
Speaker 1: question mark. It's why he gets argued over all the time.

723
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:07,280
Speaker 1: What's brock perty going to look like with all these randos?

724
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 1: How's Jared Goff gonna do without his offensive coordinator Dak?

725
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 1: What the hell is going on there? Right? So I

726
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:20,839
Speaker 1: think he's somewhere between six and seven would come off

727
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 1: the board. I think he's a lock to be a

728
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 1: top ten off the board, and I think he's probably

729
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 1: either six or seven, depending on who you talk to.

730
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 1: Did you see Jerry Jones said to the media that

731
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:35,799
Speaker 1: he offered Micah Parsons almost two hundred mil guaranteed. There's

732
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 1: no way that's the case. Right question for the pot?

733
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:41,319
Speaker 1: Jerry I said this to Colin yesterday. I really think

734
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:43,399
Speaker 1: he's starting to lose it. I mean, hearing him talk,

735
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 1: I think he's rambling on listen. Jerry's always had the

736
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:49,800
Speaker 1: gift to gab. He's a salesman. He's an elite salesman

737
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 1: in his heyday. I think's hey day's over. If he

738
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 1: was an athlete, he would get cut right. If he

739
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 1: was an artist, he would not be putting out any

740
00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 1: number one hits. If he was a chef restaurant would

741
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 1: probably be going under. It's like you watch him talking

742
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 1: like cherry. How is this guy still so active here

743
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 1: in front of the mic. Loves it which listen to

744
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 1: each his own. It's some guys don't like it, some

745
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:15,840
Speaker 1: guys like it. He's definitely not turn it off. In

746
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 1: his mid eighties. But I think everything coming out of

747
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:22,799
Speaker 1: his mouth, it's getting really bad. There's no disputing it.

748
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,959
Speaker 1: Me hired Brian Schottenheimer to be his head coach, saw

749
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 1: Coward learn ran about his backward advisor. Big Vikes fans,

750
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:31,920
Speaker 1: You and Colin are my guys. But all I hear

751
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 1: is the JJ McCarthy reservations. While I understand some, I

752
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:40,759
Speaker 1: think everyone forgets that the organization said no to Aaron bleeping'

753
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:43,880
Speaker 1: Rogers who wanted Minnesota and said he would play for

754
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:47,360
Speaker 1: five to ten million dollars. Doesn't that speak volumes to

755
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:50,800
Speaker 1: the belief they have in JJ. We have a ready

756
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 1: now Super Bowl contending team. I agree, Yet the Vikes

757
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:57,760
Speaker 1: brass says we're rolling with JJ over Rogers. I feel

758
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 1: like that's forgotten, not discussed enough. Wouldn't that manipulate the

759
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:06,880
Speaker 1: thoughts and reservations about him from you guys the media? Well,

760
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:09,839
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people look at Rogers last

761
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 1: year like it's over. I don't want to be in

762
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 1: business with this circus, right he If it starts going weird,

763
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:20,800
Speaker 1: he goes on McAfee and starts turning on me. He's

764
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 1: not playing nearly at the same level. I know he

765
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 1: can still spin it, but he doesn't move as well.

766
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 1: And the conversation wasn't just to sign Aaron Rodgers, because

767
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:32,879
Speaker 1: I think week one, Aaron Rodgers is a better player

768
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:35,920
Speaker 1: in JJ McCarthy. Even if JJ McCarthy's good, right, he's

769
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 1: just veteran. He's just gonna be better immediately the circus

770
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 1: he brings in and the attention also the what it

771
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 1: does to JJ, It's like this could derail any chance

772
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 1: he's ever good, right, I mean it's a huge risk.

773
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 1: There are variables signing Rogers that are different than you know,

774
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 1: signing other quarterbacks, right, So I think it's more than

775
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:02,720
Speaker 1: just a belief in JJ. It's just did we want

776
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:06,400
Speaker 1: to be in the Aaron Rodgers business. Think of the

777
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 1: last couple quarterbacks, Kirk Cousins and Sam Darnold, pretty low

778
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 1: key quarterback operation, right, even JJ is good or bad,

779
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:18,400
Speaker 1: Like he's kind of a low key, high level cat.

780
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 1: Not that Aaron's not, I mean all kumbay al right

781
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 1: now in Pittsburgh, but he's probably the most famous guy

782
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:29,959
Speaker 1: now that Brady's retired in the NFL. Right, I guess

783
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 1: Travis with Taylor Swift would be near the Top and mahomes.

784
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 1: But so the hooplaw of is fame, it's hard to

785
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 1: be really famous. Like what also, if Aaron shot, can

786
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:43,799
Speaker 1: you bench him in week six for JJ? So all

787
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 1: that stuff is discussed when they said no to him.

788
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:48,839
Speaker 1: So I think it's more than just they think JJ

789
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:51,360
Speaker 1: McCarthy's better than Aaron, because I don't think it's just

790
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:55,240
Speaker 1: that simple. But I hear what you're saying, and listen,

791
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 1: here's a simple reality when it comes to JJ McCarthy

792
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 1: more specifically than any other quarterback. We have no clue,

793
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 1: absolutely none. How it's gonna go none. Like I think

794
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 1: I got a pretty good idea how Kayleb Williams plays.

795
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 1: I've been watching Kayleb play for like three straight years.

796
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:12,759
Speaker 1: He's kind of always played the same, so I'll be

797
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 1: a little stuned if he plays differently. Like I think

798
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 1: I have a pretty good idea what I'm gonna get, right,

799
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 1: Like I kind of know what I'm gonna get with

800
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:22,879
Speaker 1: Bo Nicks, I'd say I don't quite know. With Drake

801
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:24,800
Speaker 1: May and Josh McDaniels, I have to see with that offense.

802
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:27,839
Speaker 1: I know what Michael Pennix looks like. I've seen him

803
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:31,319
Speaker 1: sling that that pill for years at Washington. I got

804
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 1: no clue what JAG's gonna look like passing offense. Well,

805
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:36,799
Speaker 1: he's never played in a passing offense. How's that gonna work?

806
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:40,319
Speaker 1: What expectations do you have for DK and Pittsburgh. They

807
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:41,919
Speaker 1: made the trade and gave him a ton of money,

808
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,840
Speaker 1: but he really hasn't matched come close to his best season,

809
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 1: which was twenty twenty with the aging Rogers new system.

810
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 1: Will he have a good year do you expect? This

811
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 1: is a good question because you can probably get him

812
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:57,880
Speaker 1: a little bit as a fantasy sleeper. I think the

813
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 1: last couple of years for him. Now he's been a

814
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 1: little banged up, But I think the first three years.

815
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:10,360
Speaker 1: I don't know if no one had more touchdowns in

816
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:13,879
Speaker 1: NFL history, but he's right near the top. His first

817
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:19,759
Speaker 1: three year production from a touchdown standpoint was seven, ten

818
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 1: to twelve. So he had twenty nine touchdowns through his

819
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 1: first three seasons and did not miss a game nineteen

820
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:30,360
Speaker 1: twenty and twenty one. Twenty twenty two, he had a

821
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:32,920
Speaker 1: good year. He had ninety catches, six touchdowns, but one

822
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:36,279
Speaker 1: thousand yards. Last year was weird. Now he got banged up,

823
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 1: sixty six catches, five touchdowns. I think they would take

824
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 1: the twenty three season where he was a full time

825
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 1: you know, he didn't miss a game, well, I guess

826
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 1: they were. Were they playing seventeen games in twenty three?

827
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:49,920
Speaker 1: I think they were, so maybe he missed one game.

828
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 1: He had sixty six catches and eight touchdowns and averaged

829
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:57,360
Speaker 1: almost seventeen yards to catch. Would they sign up for

830
00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 1: that right now? Sixteen games, sixty six catches, seventeen yards

831
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:04,879
Speaker 1: of catching eight touchdowns. I think they would. I think

832
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 1: in a perfect world they probably like the catches to

833
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 1: be closer to eighty. But I think seventeen yards of

834
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 1: catching eight touchdowns and playing basically every game, I think

835
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 1: that's what they're shooting for because last year he averaged

836
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:24,759
Speaker 1: less than two yards. You know, twenty three was his

837
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 1: highest yards per catch, Like you want him to be

838
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:30,719
Speaker 1: an explosive down the field guy. And if you think

839
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:33,760
Speaker 1: about Rogers' best wide receivers over the course of his career,

840
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 1: you know, Jordi Davante, they were not players like DK Metcalf.

841
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 1: When has he ever played you know, Greg Jennings, Donald Driver,

842
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:49,320
Speaker 1: Garrett Wilson, He's never really had I mean DK doesn't

843
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 1: really exist. He could have the history of the league,

844
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 1: but it'll be interesting to see how it works. But

845
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:56,719
Speaker 1: I think they would sign up right now for eight

846
00:43:56,800 --> 00:44:01,800
Speaker 1: nine touchdowns. Given Trayvon Diggs growing off the field issues

847
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 1: like his recent injury from messing around, the five hundred

848
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 1: k fine for not using the Cowboys trainer, and him

849
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:10,880
Speaker 1: inserting himself into the Micah Parson negotiations, what do you

850
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 1: think the Cowboys could realistically get in return for him? Well,

851
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:18,399
Speaker 1: he signed a huge contract right what year we now,

852
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 1: twenty five? Was that two years ago? And then he

853
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 1: tore his ACLU. I haven't broke down the film because

854
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 1: they were so bad last year. But I don't think

855
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:29,799
Speaker 1: you're getting a lot for him, given that he makes

856
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 1: a lot of money. Everything that happened, I think, yeah,

857
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 1: I don't know. My guess is not it's not worth

858
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 1: trading him unless he becomes such a big headache. I

859
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:46,839
Speaker 1: also think chiming in on Micah Parsons like, I don't

860
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:49,760
Speaker 1: think the front office cares that they want your teammates

861
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:52,479
Speaker 1: to back up your teammates. So like Ceedee lamb Dak,

862
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 1: those guys supported him. I don't think that's that weird.

863
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:57,839
Speaker 1: I think the other stuff with them being mad at

864
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 1: him for the leadership stuff, not using the facility in

865
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 1: the offseason when they talk to him about leadership like that.

866
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:07,279
Speaker 1: That's on the Cowboys, like you know this guy, you

867
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 1: pay this guy, and then did you change? Was he

868
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:12,799
Speaker 1: always like this before? I think the Cowboys have just

869
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:18,319
Speaker 1: become such a zoo. Yeah, des Bryant arguing with it's

870
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:21,440
Speaker 1: not the Cowboys fault necessarily, but Des Bryan inserts himself

871
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 1: with the Jerry Jones comments, and then Nicki Minaj starts

872
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:27,799
Speaker 1: talking about people beating other people's moms. It's like, what

873
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 1: the fuck is going on here? Why has Joe Gibbs

874
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:34,280
Speaker 1: never brought up in the discussion of all time greatest coaches?

875
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:36,719
Speaker 1: He won three Super Bowls, which is tied for third

876
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:39,440
Speaker 1: all time, with three different starting quarterbacks, none of which

877
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:41,839
Speaker 1: were Hall of famers. All the other coaches in this

878
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:45,400
Speaker 1: conversation had Hall of Fame quarterbacks. The goat coach is

879
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:48,839
Speaker 1: certainly up for debate. This is one of those like

880
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:52,840
Speaker 1: if you wanted to argue, like how good me and

881
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:56,319
Speaker 1: Joe Green was or Kenny Stabler or Bill Russell or

882
00:45:56,400 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 1: Jerry West. A little before my time, it's hard for

883
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 1: me to feel great, Like how great of a player

884
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 1: was Howie Long. I don't know. I never saw him play.

885
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:10,240
Speaker 1: My Howie Long experience was the John Travolta. I forget

886
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 1: the movie what it was called, but it was really good.

887
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 1: It was in like the Desert and Grand Canyon. It's

888
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:18,280
Speaker 1: a thriller in the action movie in the mid nineties.

889
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 1: But that's like, God, how he's a pretty good looking guy.

890
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:24,239
Speaker 1: What the hell's that movie called? Off? To think of

891
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 1: it later, my point is arguing over Joe Gibbs like

892
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:29,840
Speaker 1: I'd never watched them coach, so it's hard for me

893
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:35,239
Speaker 1: to go Joe Gibbs versus Chuck Nol versus I don't know.

894
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 1: Clearly pretty impressive guy, I mean, went to run NASCAR,

895
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 1: has very very successful teams. But you're right, he never

896
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 1: gets talked about. I can't answer that question. As a

897
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 1: Giants fan, I can't help but admire this stability of

898
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 1: the Green Bay Packers organization and the solid job that

899
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:57,319
Speaker 1: Lafloora has done. But do you think the Packers once

900
00:46:57,360 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 1: again don't make a deep playoff run Lafleur might be

901
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 1: in danger of gaining the Kyle Shanahan reputation, creative play

902
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 1: caller who can't get over the line. Well, every coach

903
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 1: until they win a Super Bowl is a guy that

904
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 1: can't get it done and when it matters most. I mean,

905
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 1: no one holds that more right now than Kyle. Right.

906
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 1: Marty Schottenheimer held it for a long time, then Andy

907
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 1: Reid held it and went from Marty to Andy to

908
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 1: now Kyle. Now the difference. You know, Marty passed and

909
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 1: never won a Super Bowl. Andy didn't just get over

910
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 1: the hump. He became a freaking legend. You know. I

911
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:36,240
Speaker 1: would bet now, does it happen San Francisco? If Kyle's

912
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:38,719
Speaker 1: gonna coach twenty plus more years, he's going to win

913
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl? Right. Lafleur still is like, has a

914
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 1: little while to go before you get to that point.

915
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 1: I would say, but this is a big year for

916
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:55,879
Speaker 1: la Floor. It really is. Kevin O'Connell has often talked

917
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 1: about as one of the top OC's and Brian Flores

918
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 1: gets similar praise on the defensive side. But I don't

919
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 1: really see it. O'Connell zhen two in the playoffs and

920
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 1: lost last year's Week eighteen game against the Lions. With

921
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 1: a division on the line. The Vikings were favored in

922
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 1: all three of those games. His play calling is extremely

923
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:17,040
Speaker 1: pass heavy. His reluctance to run the ball has felt

924
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:19,880
Speaker 1: like it's a major hole. On the other side, flores

925
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 1: defense looks incredible against the average and bad teams, but

926
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:27,719
Speaker 1: the moment they face the top offense with a good quarterback,

927
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:30,439
Speaker 1: they often get lit up. Just look at how many

928
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:33,400
Speaker 1: points they've given up to teams like the Packers, Lions

929
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 1: and Rams, or any of the top tier teams the

930
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:39,720
Speaker 1: last two years. I don't see any performances that stand

931
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:44,319
Speaker 1: out as impressive defensively, So why are they still Why

932
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:46,880
Speaker 1: do they still get so much credit as one of

933
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:50,439
Speaker 1: the best coaching duos in the NFL. Well two years

934
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 1: ago they punked the Niners when the Niners went to

935
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:56,319
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl on Monday Night Football on defense, and

936
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:58,360
Speaker 1: brock Perty said after, like, I didn't even know what

937
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 1: I was looking at. I think Brian Flores is pretty good.

938
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:05,319
Speaker 1: I think he's widely considered. I'd say, as we sit

939
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 1: here right now, Vic Fangio gets the universal praise as

940
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 1: the best non head coach defensive coordinator. Mike McDonald, if

941
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 1: he was in that situation, would be right there too, right,

942
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 1: but he's a head coach. Defensive coordinator, but elite defensive minds.

943
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 1: I think Flores is easily a top three or four

944
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:25,359
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator in the league. Robert salis probably up there too.

945
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:27,400
Speaker 1: I think Dennis Allen's pretty good too. I mean, there

946
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:30,839
Speaker 1: are some excellent defensive coordinators, and Flores's elite. I'm with

947
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 1: you on Kevin O'Connell. He's an impressive guy. He looks

948
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:38,959
Speaker 1: the part former quarterback, well spoken, I mean, like drawn

949
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 1: up in a lab to be a head coach. But

950
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:44,280
Speaker 1: I've seen him in the biggest moments not be able

951
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:49,440
Speaker 1: to pivot because he's not like the Shanahan tree. He

952
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:52,280
Speaker 1: never coached under Kyle, but he kind of because of McVeigh.

953
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:56,919
Speaker 1: Mcveigh's a lot different than Laflora, than Kyle, than even

954
00:49:56,920 --> 00:50:00,760
Speaker 1: Mike McDaniel. Those guys love running the ball. Sean McVeigh

955
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:04,600
Speaker 1: wants to pass. Kevin O'Connell is like Sean. The difference

956
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:06,960
Speaker 1: is Sean will pivot in game if he has to.

957
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:10,920
Speaker 1: Shawn's a great adjuster. I can't remember the Giants game

958
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:13,880
Speaker 1: three years ago when they lost to fucking Daniel Jones

959
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:18,920
Speaker 1: at home that's a horrendous loss. Last year, you know,

960
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 1: to lose the Lions game and to lose the uh

961
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:27,440
Speaker 1: who they play? Oh, the Rams game in Arizona. Your

962
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:31,160
Speaker 1: offensive line is decimated with injuries, your quarterback early on

963
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:33,920
Speaker 1: looks a little rattled. The easiest way to settle the

964
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:37,160
Speaker 1: game down. I understand, when you're down thirty five to seven,

965
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:39,839
Speaker 1: you're not gonna call runs. But early on the game

966
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:43,120
Speaker 1: you can settle the game down. But former quarterback likes

967
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:44,719
Speaker 1: to chuck it and then everyone's like, oh, it's Sam

968
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:47,760
Speaker 1: Darnold's the idiot. No one was critical of Kevin O'Connell

969
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:49,239
Speaker 1: ast year. I felt like I was the only guy

970
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:52,320
Speaker 1: that talks for a living that even brought it up. Besides,

971
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 1: if you're like a local guy or a fan like

972
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 1: every national, guys like Kevin O'Connell can do no wrong. Well,

973
00:50:57,600 --> 00:50:59,720
Speaker 1: I don't know, I canny win a playoff game first,

974
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:04,200
Speaker 1: Yet he's compared to like Kyle and McVeigh. Matt Lafleur

975
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:06,399
Speaker 1: went on the road and won a playoff game. Wake

976
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:09,800
Speaker 1: me up. When Kevin O'Connell wins a playoff game he's

977
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:12,760
Speaker 1: been favored in. Like you said, both the playoff games

978
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:15,239
Speaker 1: three years ago, he lost to a nine to eight

979
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 1: Giants team that is one of the least talented teams

980
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:21,440
Speaker 1: to win a playoff game in a recent memory. Because

981
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 1: even if you wanted to say that about the Washington

982
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 1: Commanders last year, their quarterback was like having one of

983
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 1: the great years a rookie's ever had. Daniel Jones threw

984
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 1: fifteen touchdowns. So I'm with you again. I like him.

985
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:35,960
Speaker 1: He's a good coach, but he gets talked about like

986
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:41,160
Speaker 1: he's second coming of Bill Walsh. A question for the bag,

987
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:44,040
Speaker 1: what was your reaction when you became a scout for

988
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:47,319
Speaker 1: the Eagles. Could you believe that you were technically in

989
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 1: the NFL when you got fired? Did you try to

990
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:54,200
Speaker 1: get another scouting gig or would you if a team called.

991
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:57,839
Speaker 1: I would say I was pretty thrilled. I mean I

992
00:51:57,880 --> 00:52:02,080
Speaker 1: had paid for my flight to interview. Typically, like once

993
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:04,800
Speaker 1: you get in the league and you're interviewing with other people,

994
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:08,440
Speaker 1: they fly you out, they put you up. In twenty ten,

995
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:10,320
Speaker 1: when I was a GA and I got hired in Philly,

996
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 1: I paid for my flight out there. I paid for

997
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:17,440
Speaker 1: my hotel, which was in the hood and was basically

998
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:20,160
Speaker 1: like a prostitution ring being run out of there. But

999
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:22,359
Speaker 1: you know, I had to pay for it, and I'm,

1000
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:24,480
Speaker 1: you know, twenty four, twenty five years old. I don't

1001
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:27,080
Speaker 1: have any money, so I get the cheapest flight possible,

1002
00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:29,879
Speaker 1: I get the cheapest hotel room possible, and I got

1003
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 1: the job on the spot. And it was pretty exciting.

1004
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:34,400
Speaker 1: It was pretty cool. Not gonna lie, but you know,

1005
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 1: getting offered twenty two grand no health insurance. I was

1006
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:41,719
Speaker 1: doing like cartwheels down the street. I went out, had

1007
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 1: some cocktails and had dinner somewhere in South Philly. I

1008
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:47,759
Speaker 1: don't know, it's cool. It was exciting time in a

1009
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:51,640
Speaker 1: young man's life. It was yeah, it was really cool.

1010
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:54,200
Speaker 1: It was awesome for anyone that people at Fresno State

1011
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:56,280
Speaker 1: did help me get there my family. It was cool

1012
00:52:56,520 --> 00:52:59,400
Speaker 1: when I got fired. I did try, but I just

1013
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:02,480
Speaker 1: didn't know that many people in the NFL, you know now,

1014
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 1: like looking back, I got friends all over the place.

1015
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:06,879
Speaker 1: I know way more people sitting in my chair now

1016
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 1: than I did then. I wouldn't. I mean, I'm not

1017
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:13,200
Speaker 1: never this is what I do for a living. But

1018
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 1: I kind of tried. I mean I called around, but

1019
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:19,640
Speaker 1: didn't work out at the time. I mean it worked

1020
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 1: out a big picture for me. You start looking in

1021
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:28,400
Speaker 1: the mirror, you go, I graduated college with you know,

1022
00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:32,400
Speaker 1: an ag business kind of degree. Then I get a

1023
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:35,920
Speaker 1: master's degree in like sports management or something. I got

1024
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:40,920
Speaker 1: multiple degrees. I've only worked in football at Fresno State

1025
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:43,279
Speaker 1: and in the NFL, and then you get fired. Even

1026
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 1: if I wanted to pivot, I'm like, how can I

1027
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:48,880
Speaker 1: walk into a job if I wanted just like a

1028
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:51,520
Speaker 1: more normal job, like to sell insurance or go work

1029
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:54,920
Speaker 1: at Facebook, or i know, go work at Bank of America.

1030
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:56,440
Speaker 1: It's like, what have you been doing. It's like, yeah,

1031
00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:58,879
Speaker 1: I've been evaluating the practice squad of the Green Bay

1032
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:02,319
Speaker 1: Packers in the Arizona car Like, uh, do you know

1033
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:05,440
Speaker 1: anything about interest rates? No? But I really have a

1034
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:08,200
Speaker 1: good feel for the backup guard situation for the New

1035
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:11,320
Speaker 1: England Patriots. You know. It's like, Oh, you want to

1036
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:13,719
Speaker 1: talk about there's a couple of young sophomores at the

1037
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:16,239
Speaker 1: University of Washington. I think we should keep an eye

1038
00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 1: on to hire here at the Bank. No, uh, linebacker

1039
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:21,880
Speaker 1: and tight end. I think they got a hot, bright future.

1040
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:26,800
Speaker 1: He started thinking, You're like, my skills and what I've learned,

1041
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:29,759
Speaker 1: and I feel pretty confident in those skills. And if

1042
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:32,399
Speaker 1: I would have got if someone would have hired a

1043
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 1: young John when he was down and out back in

1044
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:38,799
Speaker 1: the league, I would have been equipped to handle whatever role.

1045
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:42,000
Speaker 1: I'd worked in house, I'd worked on the road. But

1046
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:44,720
Speaker 1: if I were gone and tried to get a normal

1047
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:51,960
Speaker 1: job outside of football, I didn't have any skills. I remember,

1048
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:54,400
Speaker 1: you know, you're just kind of desperate because you're like

1049
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:58,160
Speaker 1: twenty eight, twenty nine years old. You don't really know

1050
00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:00,759
Speaker 1: what to do at the time. Actually, the first couple

1051
00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:05,680
Speaker 1: of months and I started calling, I had met Joe

1052
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:08,600
Speaker 1: Lacob's son, Kirk, who's now is like the assistant GM

1053
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:10,359
Speaker 1: of the Warriors, and I remember reaching out to him.

1054
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:13,239
Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, do you guys have any opportunities. I'm

1055
00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:14,960
Speaker 1: like and looking back, like, what would I have done

1056
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:16,759
Speaker 1: with the Warriors now? Granted, if they would have hired me,

1057
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:18,920
Speaker 1: I would have been part of the dynasty. Maybe I

1058
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Speaker 1: would have been one of the most unique sporting careers,

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Speaker 1: we don't really have anything. I don't even know what

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Speaker 1: I would have brought to the table. Hey, you want

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Speaker 1: to talk to usc football. But then I just got

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Speaker 1: a job in radio and kind of never looked back.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes you realize, like, let's say it all ended tomorrow,

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Speaker 1: like that there's podcasts and sports talk just stopped, and

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Speaker 1: I couldn't do it starting tomorrow August fifth, I could

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Speaker 1: not do anything under that umbrella. What would I do?

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Speaker 1: I mean, what if I wanted to create a business,

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Speaker 1: if I wanted to go interview places like what are

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Speaker 1: my skills? Talk football? Like talk I can sell? I mean,

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Speaker 1: I am essentially a salesman, but like everything I've done

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Speaker 1: has mainly been related to football, or I could break

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Speaker 1: down like Cam Young's win just to day on the

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Speaker 1: PGA Tour set a record made nineteen point one million

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Speaker 1: dollars before his first win. Tommy Fleetwood will break that

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Speaker 1: record if he ever wins, but he might not. But

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Speaker 1: scouting offensive or defensive lineman. Does having a belly or

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Speaker 1: you're a super jacked play a factor in college or

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00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:06,320
Speaker 1: in the NFL? Have you ever seen linemen that maybe

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00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:09,200
Speaker 1: didn't have the best physique, but we're super strong, or

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00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:13,600
Speaker 1: linemen that were really jacked but easy to move. I

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00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:17,200
Speaker 1: think you're way less judgmental if the guy is a

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00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:20,360
Speaker 1: good player, what his body type is. If you have

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Speaker 1: a belly, like you know, a noticeable you're kind of flabby,

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Speaker 1: and you're not a good player or an average player,

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00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:32,640
Speaker 1: then you get discriminated against big time. But if you're

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00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:37,160
Speaker 1: just good your body type. You know, some guys naturally

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00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:39,840
Speaker 1: are a little more cut up, some guys are bigger,

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00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:44,600
Speaker 1: some guys just fluctuate, you know. I'd imagine I'm trying

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Speaker 1: to think like every guy's body type is a little

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00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:52,320
Speaker 1: bit different, but you know, you some people need that

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00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:54,480
Speaker 1: extra weight to help them anchor. I think if you're

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Speaker 1: a really good player and a good athlete, having a

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00:58:57,520 --> 00:59:01,440
Speaker 1: quote unquote belly doesn't matter es Actually for an offensive lineman.

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00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:04,640
Speaker 1: I think sometimes with the defensive lineman, it goes, hey,

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00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:06,360
Speaker 1: this guy could lose a little weight, Especially if I

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00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:08,320
Speaker 1: got a belly and you're playing at three thirty. It's like, hey,

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Speaker 1: if you if you cut fifteen pounds, you would be

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Speaker 1: that much more explosive. I saw Jordan Davis, the Eagles

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00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:20,840
Speaker 1: defensive lineman, has I think drop like twenty five pounds.

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Speaker 1: It looks good. So I think in people one knock

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Speaker 1: on him as he'd get out of shape and it

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Speaker 1: would hurt his ability to play late in the games.

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Speaker 1: So if you have a quote unquote belly and you're

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Speaker 1: good and you're in shape, like it's you just got

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Speaker 1: to carry that weight to slow guys down. I can't

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Speaker 1: think of You know, some guys get big. You know,

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Speaker 1: Trent can get big. I mean last year I thought

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Speaker 1: when he showed up after holding out, he looked like

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Speaker 1: he was three hundred and eighty pounds, and now he

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00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:54,840
Speaker 1: might play at three hundred and forty pounds. But like him,

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Speaker 1: like Jason Peters, some of these guys are just such

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00:59:58,160 --> 01:00:00,000
Speaker 1: physical freaks. They can be three hundred and thirty three

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01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:03,480
Speaker 1: hundred and forty pounds and not look that fat. And

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01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:07,000
Speaker 1: some guys like Lane Johnson's a good example. Joe Staley

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01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:10,600
Speaker 1: was like this, they look way more in shape when

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01:00:10,600 --> 01:00:13,440
Speaker 1: they're playing really well than quote unquote fat. But I

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Speaker 1: bet you know what's Jason Kelsey retire now two forty

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Speaker 1: regrets on the wedding and the baby love the show.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to ask two part question do you watch

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01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:30,240
Speaker 1: NFL Red Zone at all during an NFL season? Second question,

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01:00:30,680 --> 01:00:33,120
Speaker 1: what do you think of ESPN buying Red Zone. All

1145
01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:36,240
Speaker 1: my friends watch Red Zone and we love not having commercials.

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01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:39,840
Speaker 1: Just curious if you think Red Zone will change and

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01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:45,320
Speaker 1: have more commercials with ESPN as the owner. Well, typically

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01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:50,080
Speaker 1: my setup in this office. We actually might be moving

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01:00:50,120 --> 01:00:52,880
Speaker 1: offices here, might be building one on the side of

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01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:56,160
Speaker 1: my house and then looking to have one just outside

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01:00:56,200 --> 01:00:58,240
Speaker 1: of the house as the family expands, so we can

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01:00:58,480 --> 01:01:03,600
Speaker 1: have a little separation between home and work. But I

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01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:07,360
Speaker 1: have to have multiple TVs and I typically throw up

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01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:10,680
Speaker 1: all the games right, especially now with YouTube TV, I

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01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:13,640
Speaker 1: can I have a sixty inch TV and like a

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Speaker 1: fifty forty inch TV and I can have like six

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01:01:16,520 --> 01:01:19,400
Speaker 1: seven games going. Now, if we get to a number

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Speaker 1: where I have an extra box, I will put on

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Speaker 1: Red Zone. But I don't watch Red Zone like I

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01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:27,880
Speaker 1: would if I wasn't doing this. So I try to

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01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:30,840
Speaker 1: have all the actual games going on, so I can,

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01:01:31,160 --> 01:01:34,080
Speaker 1: you know, especially the main ones, but they I have

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Speaker 1: the sound whatever the best or most important game is

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01:01:38,440 --> 01:01:41,040
Speaker 1: going on, So I never really have the Red Zone

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Speaker 1: sound on. Now, aren't there two separate like direct TV

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Speaker 1: or the package their Red Zone and whatever was on

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Speaker 1: cables Red Zone? So isn't there Scott Hansen, and there's

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Speaker 1: Andrew Ceciliano. I feel like I've watched Scott Hansen forever

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Speaker 1: at least, you know, had him on the box. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not not against red zone at all.

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Speaker 1: I just for what I do. I can't focus on

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Speaker 1: it as much what I use it for because it's

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01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:13,240
Speaker 1: usually a little delayed that if there's a touchdown or

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Speaker 1: a big play. If I'm watching like six games at

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01:02:16,080 --> 01:02:19,400
Speaker 1: one time, and like the Colts Texans game and I

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01:02:19,480 --> 01:02:22,520
Speaker 1: missed it, then I look over and a minute later

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Speaker 1: Scott Hansen will throw to Jonathan Taylor going seventy yards. Right,

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Speaker 1: I would not be as worried in the short term.

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Speaker 1: Here's the thing. ESPN bought the NFL Network, which the

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01:02:33,600 --> 01:02:36,280
Speaker 1: NFL wanted out of business. Right, the NFL is making

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01:02:36,360 --> 01:02:40,040
Speaker 1: so much money from football, they don't want in on

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Speaker 1: the media business. It's not lucrative enough for them to

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01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:45,520
Speaker 1: waste their time fucking with That to me is as

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01:02:45,560 --> 01:02:47,680
Speaker 1: simple as it gets when it comes to why they're

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Speaker 1: getting away from it. It wasn't financially worth it for

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01:02:51,160 --> 01:02:54,919
Speaker 1: them to be in the media business. But two, they

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01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:58,840
Speaker 1: get ownership in ESPN. So if you want to be

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Speaker 1: in business with me, the NFL, even if you purchase

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01:03:01,960 --> 01:03:07,040
Speaker 1: something from me, like CBS, ABC, NBC when they purchase

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Speaker 1: the league's product, play the games, the NFL still tells

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01:03:12,200 --> 01:03:15,480
Speaker 1: them what to do. Now, they can't totally tell you

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Speaker 1: how to run your business. But if Roger Goodell and

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Speaker 1: the powers to be like Scott Hanson running the red zone,

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01:03:21,880 --> 01:03:25,880
Speaker 1: he will continue to run the red zone. So my

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Speaker 1: guess is Scott Hansen is at least safe for a

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Speaker 1: little bit. There are some funny memes and stuff going around,

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01:03:31,760 --> 01:03:34,920
Speaker 1: like how ESPN will have Kendrick Perkins or Steven A

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Speaker 1: on there. I wouldn't be that worried at least for

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Speaker 1: a year or two. But yeah, I mean you never

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Speaker 1: say never when stuff like this happens. I do think

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Speaker 1: you're safe for the at least the foreseeable future, because again,

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01:03:46,880 --> 01:03:52,760
Speaker 1: the NFL has equity in ESPN. Now, even though ESPN

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01:03:52,880 --> 01:03:55,800
Speaker 1: bought their properties, it's kind of a weird business transaction

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01:03:56,200 --> 01:04:00,240
Speaker 1: that still needs like government approval, which I'm sure get

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Speaker 1: taken care of. What are your favorite your three top

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01:04:04,720 --> 01:04:08,960
Speaker 1: TV series? I would say number one of all times

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01:04:08,960 --> 01:04:11,960
Speaker 1: as Sopranos, and I would say one B is the Wire.

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Speaker 1: I would say those are easily at the top. You

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01:04:16,520 --> 01:04:19,680
Speaker 1: know a lot of people I feel not even hipster,

1210
01:04:19,840 --> 01:04:26,680
Speaker 1: but I think it's it's like you feel like you're smart.

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Speaker 1: If you say mad Men, I'm pro John Hamm and

1212
01:04:30,800 --> 01:04:35,360
Speaker 1: I watched the majority of the show. I thought it

1213
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Speaker 1: was a little overrated. I would say Breaking Bad again good.

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01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:44,800
Speaker 1: I think some people put it at the near the

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Speaker 1: top of the mountain. It was solid. I think Sopranos

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Speaker 1: and The Wire are just in a completely different level

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Speaker 1: for me. And there's nothing that I've watched and I've

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01:04:54,320 --> 01:04:57,120
Speaker 1: watched I watched a lot of TV. Not proud to

1219
01:04:57,120 --> 01:05:00,800
Speaker 1: say I should be reading more, but there's not a

1220
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Speaker 1: major television show over the last twenty plus years a

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01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:11,240
Speaker 1: series that I have not watched. I'm watching a show

1222
01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:15,520
Speaker 1: right now called high Town on Netflix. We're on season two.

1223
01:05:15,560 --> 01:05:18,440
Speaker 1: It's really good. It's I'm not putting it with the

1224
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Speaker 1: Sopranos or The Wire or anything, but it's it's it's

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01:05:24,200 --> 01:05:31,520
Speaker 1: it's pretty freaking good. There's another show I know what

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01:05:31,680 --> 01:05:37,000
Speaker 1: was a show called This show became pretty toxic because

1227
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Speaker 1: Kevin Spacey got accused of some pretty hainous shit, but

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Speaker 1: one of Netflix's first big hits, House of Cards with

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01:05:45,640 --> 01:05:48,760
Speaker 1: Kevin Spacey. They tried to last season when he got

1230
01:05:48,800 --> 01:05:52,240
Speaker 1: canceled and he wasn't in it. The show was a joke,

1231
01:05:52,920 --> 01:05:54,640
Speaker 1: but I'd say the first three or four seasons of

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Speaker 1: House of Cards, we're pretty special. I was always a

1233
01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:04,960
Speaker 1: sucker to Dexter. Maybe it wouldn't age as well. Californication

1234
01:06:05,240 --> 01:06:07,440
Speaker 1: is another sleeper. I love that show Back in the

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01:06:07,520 --> 01:06:11,560
Speaker 1: day with David Dukeveny question for the bag. With all

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01:06:11,600 --> 01:06:15,360
Speaker 1: the NFL contract talk about Parsons talking about Jerry try

1237
01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:17,400
Speaker 1: to do a backdoor deal with that as agent, it

1238
01:06:17,480 --> 01:06:19,480
Speaker 1: got me thinking, do you think players in the past

1239
01:06:19,480 --> 01:06:21,760
Speaker 1: have gotten paid a little something extra under the table

1240
01:06:22,040 --> 01:06:29,480
Speaker 1: to avoid hurting the cap that is one hundred percent?

1241
01:06:29,880 --> 01:06:33,720
Speaker 1: Your question has been talked about four decades and the

1242
01:06:33,800 --> 01:06:37,960
Speaker 1: answer is yes. Think about all the different industries we

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01:06:38,040 --> 01:06:44,080
Speaker 1: all work in and listen with with technology it is.

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01:06:44,760 --> 01:06:48,440
Speaker 1: I couldn't walk into the Ferrari dealership and hand them

1245
01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:51,040
Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty thousand dollars cash in a bag

1246
01:06:51,480 --> 01:06:53,760
Speaker 1: for a Ferrari right, You're not allowed to do that.

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01:06:53,800 --> 01:06:56,800
Speaker 1: I couldn't knock on the door of a house and say, hey,

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01:06:56,840 --> 01:06:58,880
Speaker 1: I'll offer you two point five million dollars. I have

1249
01:06:58,960 --> 01:07:02,520
Speaker 1: it into briefcase like, this isn't the seventies or the eighties.

1250
01:07:03,120 --> 01:07:05,680
Speaker 1: So there are levels in which you have to do stuff.

1251
01:07:06,440 --> 01:07:10,880
Speaker 1: But one thing that I think definitely happens is the

1252
01:07:10,960 --> 01:07:17,600
Speaker 1: team helps players get marketing deals, especially with their sponsors.

1253
01:07:17,600 --> 01:07:21,080
Speaker 1: So if you play for team whoever, and you are

1254
01:07:21,120 --> 01:07:26,560
Speaker 1: a key player, and I give you my bank who

1255
01:07:26,680 --> 01:07:29,160
Speaker 1: is a big sponsor in my airline, and they pay

1256
01:07:29,200 --> 01:07:31,800
Speaker 1: you money right now, you do stuff for them, But

1257
01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:35,640
Speaker 1: I facilitate that deal. I mean people always said Tom

1258
01:07:35,680 --> 01:07:42,160
Speaker 1: Brady the his what was it called TB twelve, His

1259
01:07:42,360 --> 01:07:45,880
Speaker 1: office was in the Craft building across the street from JILT.

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Speaker 1: I mean that to me is nothing. What's five thousand

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01:07:48,720 --> 01:07:52,560
Speaker 1: dollars rent a month? But it's like who knows what robbercraft?

1262
01:07:52,920 --> 01:07:55,880
Speaker 1: Guess what it's called business. I'd do it too, but

1263
01:07:55,960 --> 01:07:59,320
Speaker 1: there's a difference of like can I buy the guy

1264
01:07:59,520 --> 01:08:02,400
Speaker 1: a ten million dollar mansion in my community? Like I

1265
01:08:02,440 --> 01:08:04,920
Speaker 1: don't think you can do stuff like that, But I

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01:08:05,280 --> 01:08:13,000
Speaker 1: think stock tips business ventures, you know, I know the

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Speaker 1: forty nine ers had a lot of guys invest into

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Speaker 1: the soccer team internationally. Now it's above board, like you

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Speaker 1: can just be an investor in stuff. But yeah, I

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Speaker 1: mean I think I think a lot of shady stuff

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Speaker 1: has happened over the years in all sports. I mean,

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Speaker 1: the Warriors have been funneling those guys deals forever. Question

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Speaker 1: for you, I realy saw a clip of you and

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Speaker 1: Colin talking about top ten quarterbacks of all time, and

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Speaker 1: notice Breeze and Rogers getting left out for guys like

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Speaker 1: Bradshawn Aikman. I don't think you saw my list because

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Speaker 1: I do not include Trey Aikman and Terry Bradshaw in

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Speaker 1: my top ten. Aaron Rodgers are better. Trey Aikman's more

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Speaker 1: accomplished clearly than Aaron Rodgers. Aaron better player. I can't

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Speaker 1: even speak on Terry Bradshaw, he played before it was alive,

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Speaker 1: but I would have Aaron Rodgers. You know, Drew Brees

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Speaker 1: is unique. I mean, he's a first bout Hall of Famer,

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Speaker 1: but he's a dumb quarterback. So these guys that play

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Speaker 1: outside in inclement weather like like to meet, Rodgers is

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Speaker 1: on a different tier than Drew Brees. Both some of

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Speaker 1: the great quarterbacks of all time, But to me, Rogers

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Speaker 1: is close to the top five. Then Drew Brees is

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Speaker 1: sneaking into the top ten. But I don't put Treykman

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Speaker 1: in the top ten quarterback, No shade in him. I

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Speaker 1: just big Commanders fan and season take it over. I

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Speaker 1: think the take that Jayden will have a sophomore slump

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Speaker 1: because CJ. Stroud struggled at times last year after losing

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Speaker 1: all three of the starting receivers as lazy analysis. I

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Speaker 1: also think it's disrespectable as CJ. I don't think it's

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Speaker 1: about lazy analysis or anything. I think you just you

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Speaker 1: gotta be very careful that putting together elite careers, like

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Speaker 1: good players have a down year and early on in

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Speaker 1: your career, the more information these defensive coordinators have on you,

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Speaker 1: the more difficult it gets. I'm with you. I would

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Speaker 1: be stunned if we look at the Commanders and their

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Speaker 1: offense feels like the Houston Texans did last year. But

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Speaker 1: Terry McLaurin is a question mark, and I would say

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Speaker 1: the more and more Cliff Kingsbury has coached typically as

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Speaker 1: the years have gone on, it happened in Arizona now

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Speaker 1: obviously Jade and I like more and Kyler, but like

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Speaker 1: has he adapted, has he changed. You know, some of

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Speaker 1: the stuffs out of Jayden's control. Now, when you throw,

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Speaker 1: when you're that good in the pocket, when you throw

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Speaker 1: that beautiful of a deep ball, when you have that

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Speaker 1: ability to run. Yeah, I mean, I don't expect to

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Speaker 1: fall off. But is he more likely to throw twenty

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Speaker 1: eight touchdowns or fifty touchdowns? Football's heart. We see plenty

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Speaker 1: of all time quarterbacks finish their careers on different teams,

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Speaker 1: Brady to the Bucks, Peyton to the Broncos. Hypothetically, if

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Speaker 1: you had to place a bet, which of the top

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Speaker 1: which of these quarterbacks will end up leaving their current

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Speaker 1: team first, whether it be because the player or the

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Speaker 1: organization decision, Who would it be and why? Patrick Mahomes,

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen or Lamar Jackson. I would say Patrick Mahomes

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Speaker 1: one percent would not be would be dead last on

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Speaker 1: the list of going to another team. Listen, you never

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Speaker 1: say never, like you said Peyton and Tom Brady, but

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Speaker 1: it would have to get really, really ugly. I would

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Speaker 1: say Lamar just because I think that's a good question.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, but Josh Allen get hurt too. I'd

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Speaker 1: probably go one A Lamar, one B Josh and then

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Speaker 1: like at twenty five, Patrick Mahomes, I wouldn't even include

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Speaker 1: any of those three. I'd include Joe Burrow. I would

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Speaker 1: say Joe Burrow. I mean, look what Carson Palmer once

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Speaker 1: upon a nime did I quit? So I would say

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Speaker 1: Joe Burrow would be the guy over Josh Allen and

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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson. And Lamar Jackson won two MVPs and could

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Speaker 1: have won his third last year. Josh Allen just won

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Speaker 1: the MVP. Those guys aren't going anywhere. It'd be Joe Burrow.

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Speaker 1: Do you see Roger Goodell pulling in Adam Silver and

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Speaker 1: forcing a star player to a great team. I say

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Speaker 1: this because what would Joe Burrow look like with Sean

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Speaker 1: McVay speaking of Joe Burrow. Uh, you know a lot

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Speaker 1: of people have said John conspiracy conspiracy theorist, like you

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Speaker 1: saying that Adam Silver forced Luca to the Lakers and

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Speaker 1: then gave the Mavericks Cooper flag. The difference is the

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Speaker 1: reason that conspiracy conspiracy theory was somewhat believable is because

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Speaker 1: markets really matter in the NBA. The NBA Finals with

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Speaker 1: Indiana and Oklahoma City, for like a stretch of their

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Speaker 1: three games, game two, game three, Game four in Game five,

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Speaker 1: So really four games did like two million more views

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Speaker 1: than the Hall of Fame game. But if it had

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Speaker 1: been Lakers Knicks, they would have done twenty million people watching.

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Speaker 1: Last year the World Series Dodgers Yankees, what happened huge ratings.

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Speaker 1: Baseball and basketball are very dependent on the markets and

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Speaker 1: the superstar players. But the superstar players on the big markets.

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Speaker 1: The NFL is unfaced. You could have Chiefs Cardinals and

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Speaker 1: one hundred million people are gonna watch. Now, if you

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Speaker 1: got Cowboys trying to think who's the biggest team in

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Speaker 1: the AFC, well, I mean technically is a Chief It

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Speaker 1: just doesn't matter. It just does not matter. Cowboys haven't

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Speaker 1: made the conference championship game in thirty five years, and

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Speaker 1: it has not matter thirty five years, thirty years. It's

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Speaker 1: a great question though, when on this saw the other

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Speaker 1: day you were discussing what defines award adding and you

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Speaker 1: mentioned mahomes lamar Burrow but left off hurts. By your

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Speaker 1: definition and what we've seen, he's proven to be just that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I would include him. I can't list everybody all the time.

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of these quarterbacks are really tough.

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Speaker 1: I think most good quarterbacks are tough guys. It's hard

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Speaker 1: to be a good quarterback and not be a tough guy.

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Speaker 1: And Jalen is I mean, you can't be that good

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Speaker 1: at the toush push and be that strong and not

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Speaker 1: be a tough SOB. So yes, I would say Jalen

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Speaker 1: Hurts is a war daddy. But most good quarterbacks are

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Speaker 1: gonna be, you know, war daddies, right, especially running quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: Lamar Cam Newton, Michael Vick, Jalen Hurts, I listen, Kyler's

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Speaker 1: not a US Jayden Daniels. I think these guys, it's

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Speaker 1: hard to be a good quarterback, especially if running is

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Speaker 1: part of your repertoire, and not be pretty dynamic with

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Speaker 1: your physical toughness and mental toughness. So I would say yes,

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Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts would fall into the category of war daddy.

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Speaker 1: The volume