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Speaker 1: How about we not lose one hundred and twenty one games,

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Speaker 1: in two thousand and five of the Black Sox. Give

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Speaker 1: me that ball, so that thing on e baby, we

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Speaker 2: As Kratz would say, two more sleeps until opening day

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Speaker 2: for the rest of Major League Baseball twenty eight other

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Speaker 2: teams getting ready to go, and Foul Territory is going

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Speaker 2: to be in Cincinnati, so we have a fancy schmancy board.

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Speaker 2: If you're listening later on, I'll read it out for you.

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Speaker 2: Foul Territory Opening day road trip right after the show,

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Speaker 2: heading out to Cincinnati. We'll be at Great American Ballpark

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Speaker 2: inside the ballpark, on the field, as long as it's

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Speaker 2: not pouring on us. We'll be there at eleven am

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Speaker 2: to one pm Eastern time for the show live. Thursday,

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Speaker 2: we'll be at Nation Kitchen and Bar at the Banks,

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Speaker 2: awesome food and vibes eleven am to one pm Eastern time.

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Speaker 2: You can swing by and have lunch and watch FT.

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Speaker 2: And then Friday we'll be back at the Nation Kitchen

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Speaker 2: and Bar at the Banks one o'clock East Coast time

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Speaker 2: up until three Obviously, Thursday is Opening Day in Cincinnati,

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Speaker 2: which is always a holiday. We'll talk more about it

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Speaker 2: when we go out there. Have you ever been there

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Speaker 1: Was mostly americanly, and when I was in the National League,

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Speaker 2: Figure that one out twenty fifteen. Was there a new

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Speaker 1: H oh, yeah, we had a rain deer. They didn't

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Speaker 2: There's always a storm coming.

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Speaker 1: Look it up, true story, look it up.

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Speaker 2: Wow. Okay, I will, And before we charge, I just

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Speaker 2: would like to say thank you Eric for your hospitality yesterday,

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Speaker 2: setting the bar high for AJ, who will not reply

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Speaker 2: to what you did, which was make Scottie friendly chocolate

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Speaker 2: chip cupcakes. I was gonna say muffins, for they muffins

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Speaker 2: or cupcakes yesterday. It feels like a year ago. Cupcakes.

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Speaker 2: AJ pressures on if you ever want to make me cupcakes.

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Speaker 1: Sure, I'm making with dairy and cheese and all kinds

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Speaker 3: Oh he never comes back, yeah exactly.

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Speaker 1: Or I never leave.

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Speaker 2: Wait, I'll never leave.

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Speaker 1: Well, you'll leave, just not upright.

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Speaker 2: I don't know right exactly I'll leave. I just won't

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Speaker 2: be in one piece. All right, Let's try and do

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Speaker 2: some bizz here. Let's charge stop the presses. The Twins

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Speaker 2: are for sale. It's a great story though. In The

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Speaker 2: Athletic by bridgeroli, O, Ken Rosen and Dan Hayes, who

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Speaker 2: and what they're looking for and why a sale hasn't

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Speaker 2: happened yet. The number one reason why a sale hasn't

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Speaker 2: They're winning bitter justin Zvia, who ended up investing more

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Speaker 2: eventually going to own that team. But let's focus on

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Speaker 2: the Twins. They are seeking at least one point seven

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Speaker 2: billion dollars. They are currently accepting bids. So if you

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Speaker 2: have interest and you would like to accept a bid,

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Speaker 2: read this article and you can figure out how. Just

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Speaker 2: so you know, the bar has been set because they're

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Speaker 2: caveat is they have just about as much debt as

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Speaker 2: any team in baseball. This is normal, but it does

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Speaker 2: factor into how a sales process goes four hundred and

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Speaker 2: twenty five million dollars in debt, It depends on the sale.

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Speaker 1: That he's crazy if he thinks that that's going to happen.

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Speaker 1: You're selling the team. That means you go bye bye

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Speaker 1: bye bye pole ads bye bye because you're making a profit.

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Speaker 1: But then why sell if you want to beat your

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Speaker 1: you on board. No, that's what happens. The owners come

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Speaker 3: I think sometimes people with this kind of money, like

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Speaker 3: what would make that be awesome on your resume for

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Speaker 3: it's just just get your money, go do something else.

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Speaker 2: We'll clarify later this week with Ken Rosenthal. But what

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, because listen, in two thousand and six

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Speaker 1: We can do it again. The Twins won their first

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Speaker 3: You can't get much closer to this, is it? After

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Speaker 3: And if you look like who knows about all that stuff?

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Speaker 4: You know, Corbin is a very routine oriented player and

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Speaker 4: I respect that one hundred percent.

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Speaker 1: And it's just.

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Speaker 4: The way it lands, and that's kind of what we're

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Speaker 1: What's Zach? What's he look like? Zach Gallant? Who is he?

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Speaker 2: He's gonna throw a bullpen on Saturday. According to manager

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Speaker 2: He is going to be a starter, you guys with

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Speaker 1: He has to be a starter because that's the only

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Speaker 2: about halfway through the season. They are not expecting or

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Speaker 2: needing one hundred and fifty plus innings out of him.

432
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Speaker 2: I think even one hundred might be a stretch at

433
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Speaker 2: this point. They'd like him to be in a good

434
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Speaker 2: groove heading into the playoffs, where then he can pitch

435
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Speaker 2: and hit if it's all working out for him. What

436
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Speaker 2: I did learn from this conversation is that we should

437
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Speaker 2: do some type of segment with eighties music called when

438
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Speaker 2: will He Pitch? And keep doing Otani updates every time

439
00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:40,040
Speaker 2: we get one morsel of an update about the situation.

440
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Speaker 2: I actually genuinely am interested in this topic because of

441
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Speaker 2: the uniqueness of it. I don't care about most rehab

442
00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:48,920
Speaker 2: processes because you just want to know when the guy's

443
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Speaker 2: coming back, so I want the timetable. But with this one,

444
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Speaker 2: I am actually curious because you don't have a previous playbook,

445
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Speaker 2: So we'll keep that in mind. We'll try to get

446
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Speaker 2: to something that AJ's much more more interested in. So

447
00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:03,879
Speaker 2: let's do power rankings.

448
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Speaker 1: Yeah see, I mean, come on, thanks, We're going to

449
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Speaker 1: talk about where Won Soto will go again?

450
00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:09,560
Speaker 3: I shut his hand?

451
00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:13,520
Speaker 2: Where will Glady go? Todd z A Lacki covers the

452
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Speaker 2: Philadelphia Phillies for MLB dot Com. He's also one of

453
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Speaker 2: the star hosts on the Phillies show. He reports Ranger

454
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Speaker 2: Suarez is going to open up the season on the

455
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Speaker 2: injured list. Dave Dombraski said, if things continue to progress,

456
00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:27,760
Speaker 2: he would pitch some time in April, but he needs

457
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Speaker 2: to be built up again. You're talking three weeks or

458
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Speaker 2: something at least, so that gives Taiwan Walker an opportunity

459
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Speaker 2: to really resurrect his career. He was terrible last year

460
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Speaker 2: and apparently looks better this spring. Crats, what can you

461
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Speaker 2: tell us about Ranger and Taiwan?

462
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Speaker 3: I mean, Ranger spends a little bit of time on

463
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Speaker 3: il every year, but at the beginning of his career

464
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Speaker 3: he was transitioning bullpen starter bullpen starter. They kind of

465
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Speaker 3: started to do that with Christopher Sanchez. Now Christopher Sanchez

466
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Speaker 3: has solidified himself. He should just be a star. So

467
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Speaker 3: I think it's difficult sometimes and doesn't sound like it's

468
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Speaker 3: that big a deal, But the Dodgers have ten starting

469
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Speaker 3: rotation pieces. The Phillies in a normal year would have

470
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Speaker 3: a ridiculous amount of depth. Knowing that they have Taiwan

471
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Speaker 3: Walker as their starter. Well, this helps you know he's

472
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Speaker 3: gonna slide into the fifth starter. The only thing I've

473
00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:27,159
Speaker 3: heard and seen from his starts and it will make

474
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Speaker 3: Phillies fans super pissed. He looked good in spring training.

475
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Speaker 1: He looked good.

476
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Speaker 3: His velocity was up two to three miles per hour

477
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Speaker 3: on average, which allowed his splitter to stay at the

478
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Speaker 3: same velocity, so his fastball velocities up, his split velocity

479
00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,440
Speaker 3: stayed the same, and now instead of being like two

480
00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:49,760
Speaker 3: miles an hour difference, they're like four to five. So

481
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Speaker 3: we'll see if he can resurrect his career. If not,

482
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Speaker 3: he might not be a Philly at the end of

483
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Speaker 3: April when Ranger comes.

484
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Speaker 2: Back and Philly fans obviously are going to get out

485
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Speaker 2: after him. But if he starts off strong, they will

486
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Speaker 2: accept him and give him a big hug. But aj

487
00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:09,120
Speaker 2: the first start or two is big, right, Like if

488
00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:12,639
Speaker 2: the fifth starts him, okay, but the first or second start,

489
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Speaker 2: if he gets blown.

490
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Speaker 1: Out, He's got to get off to a good start,

491
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Speaker 1: especially with a team that's supposed to be competing for

492
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Speaker 1: a world series. He's got to get off to a

493
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Speaker 1: good start because everyone's everyone, including Cross be like, get

494
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Speaker 1: rid of this bum, get rid of them. We're gonna

495
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Speaker 1: throw pizza at them and stuff. I mean, whatever they

496
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Speaker 1: do in Philly. I don't even know what they do

497
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Speaker 1: in Philly.

498
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Speaker 3: Batteries, batteries and snowballs at Santa they definitely do that.

499
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Speaker 2: Yeah, come on, pizza, That doesn't make a good dad.

500
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Speaker 1: That was Boston. Sorry, that was Boston through pizza in Boston. Sorry.

501
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Speaker 2: All right, Well, I guess they're a little sweeter up there.

502
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Speaker 2: You see this little quote from Juan Soto, he is

503
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Speaker 2: expecting the worst when he returns to Yankee Stadium. He said,

504
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Speaker 2: you know, Yankee fans, they can surprise you with anything,

505
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Speaker 2: So I'm expecting the worst. It's having fun with it.

506
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Speaker 2: Do you think he's gonna do some gladiator? Are you

507
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 2: not entertained? Type of situation? AJ When it's Mets Yanks,

508
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,400
Speaker 2: which has really heated up, by the way, and here's

509
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:16,720
Speaker 2: Derek Lewandowski, our Pinstripe territory superstar. By the way, we're

510
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,760
Speaker 2: gonna boo the absolute shit out a month. So no,

511
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:22,439
Speaker 2: and that got he deserves it.

512
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Speaker 1: He knows, he knows it. Yeah, he knows. He's having

513
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Speaker 1: fun with it, he's enjoying it. He knows what Yankee

514
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Speaker 1: fans are about. I have no problem with him saying this.

515
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Speaker 1: I think it's better that he brought it up now

516
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Speaker 1: instead of waiting. Bring it up, talk about it, like

517
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Speaker 1: get things out in the open. I love it when

518
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Speaker 1: players do his white what we're gonna let it fester

519
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Speaker 1: and like, oh no, big bad Yankee Stadium's coming. Oh whoop.

520
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,240
Speaker 1: The dude like no, like it's great. He's like, yeah,

521
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Speaker 1: bring it on, Yankee fans. I'm ready for you. How

522
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Speaker 1: about one at bat?

523
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Speaker 3: How about one at bat that cheer the man who

524
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Speaker 3: helped them get to the World Series that they hadn't

525
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Speaker 3: been to since two thousand and nine. Just one at

526
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Speaker 3: bat and then for the next fifteen years, for the

527
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Speaker 3: next fifteen years on tract, boom him, boo him. Every

528
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Speaker 3: single time Jason Worth helped help the Phillies, help the

529
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Speaker 3: Phillies win a World Series. Every time he came to

530
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Speaker 3: Citizens Bank, they boot him, celebrate that man one time,

531
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Speaker 3: just won at bat, and then boom him the rest

532
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Speaker 3: of the time.

533
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Speaker 1: Nope, not happening. You're gonna tell Philly fans to cheer

534
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Speaker 1: for somebody. Nope, they're gonna boom.

535
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Speaker 3: Hey, we're gonna see you guys. They should have cheered.

536
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:33,720
Speaker 3: They should have cheered for Jason Worth. He did, should

537
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:39,439
Speaker 3: have awesome stuff for that team for years and so

538
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:42,199
Speaker 3: you can get the booze in afterwards. But just a

539
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Speaker 3: little cheer, just a little bit.

540
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Speaker 2: If the Yankees had won the World Series and then

541
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Speaker 2: he spurned them for the Mets, who did make a

542
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Speaker 2: higher offer, would he have gotten a little cheer. I

543
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:52,760
Speaker 2: actually do think he would have if they won. But

544
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Speaker 2: Yankee fans are at winning a World Series, Yes, he

545
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Speaker 2: would have gotten a little standing up. I think they

546
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Speaker 2: would have done that. You don't think that's.

547
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Speaker 3: I still think he did everything possible. He was brought in,

548
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:09,640
Speaker 3: did not disappoint at all. Yankees fans are posting all

549
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:13,919
Speaker 3: the dropped fly balls or miss reeds or bad routes

550
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Speaker 3: that he had. They could not have been more. That

551
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 3: was a spot on trade that worked out so well

552
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Speaker 3: for the Yankees. They should cheer him just once. I'm

553
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Speaker 3: not saying all the time, just once.

554
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Speaker 2: We're just racking up futures bets right now. Bet MGM

555
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:38,680
Speaker 2: al Comeback Player of the Year. Mike Trout is leading

556
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 2: the charge than Jacob de Grom. Trout's plus three hundred

557
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:45,359
Speaker 2: to Grom plus four fifty. Felix Bautista, the Orioles reliever,

558
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:48,160
Speaker 2: is plus five hundred. Boba set at plus six hundred,

559
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:51,120
Speaker 2: and Shane McClanahan checks in at plus six hundred as well.

560
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:53,959
Speaker 2: Of course, Shane's gonna miss the beginning of the season.

561
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:56,680
Speaker 2: Is there value on the board? Krats? Do you see

562
00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 2: anything you like.

563
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:00,960
Speaker 1: Felix Battista.

564
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 3: Pitchers coming back from injuries need to be used really well.

565
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:10,439
Speaker 3: You don't abuse closers. I get it. You know, he

566
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:12,879
Speaker 3: can pitch two out of three days or whatever it is.

567
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 3: They're not like, let's get him up in the seventh. No, no, okay,

568
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:19,680
Speaker 3: let's get him up in the eighth. Okay, now, let's

569
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Speaker 3: get him up in the ninth. To me, I think

570
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:23,479
Speaker 3: that's where the bat. I think it was plus six hundred.

571
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:25,920
Speaker 3: I really like that, and I think he's gonna be

572
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:30,200
Speaker 3: plus five hundred. I think it's gonna be awesome everybody else.

573
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 3: You know, there's a lot lots surrounding the other guys

574
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 3: on that board, and he's gonna be the closer of

575
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 3: a team that's gonna win ninety plus games.

576
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Speaker 1: Agreed. I agree with what Kratzy just said. I think

577
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Speaker 1: he's the one on this list. Him, Him and the

578
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 1: other guy is Bobachhett to me, because it's a contract here,

579
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Speaker 1: and I think, and to be honest with you, I

580
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 1: mean he's coming back. I mean he wasn't. It wasn't

581
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Speaker 1: like to me a comeback player that you are you

582
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Speaker 1: were out for a significant amount of time, like Felix

583
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Speaker 1: Blatista was. I know Bobaschett missed some time. I know

584
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Speaker 1: Mike Trump missed some time. Jacob mcgram obviously missed almost

585
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 1: the whole year. I just don't think Jacob mcgrahm is

586
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Speaker 1: going to get enough innings. They're going to be so

587
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 1: careful with him that he's not going to be able

588
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 1: to bounce back. Sean mcclanahan's already out to start the year,

589
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 1: so that stinks for him. I think the two on

590
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 1: this are Bautista and Baschet for me, because BOE's in

591
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 1: a contract year, he wants to prove it to the

592
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Speaker 1: Blue Jays that he's going to be worth it. And

593
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 1: then to me, Felix Bautista is going to get an

594
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 1: opportunity to make a lot of saves. And if he

595
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Speaker 1: gets an opportunity, he saves thirty five games this year,

596
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 1: how can you not give it to him? Coming back

597
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 1: off Tommy John So, I love what, I love what kratsaid.

598
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 2: I like Trout on the board here. I know he's

599
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 2: the favorite at plus three hundred, but it's not plus

600
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Speaker 2: one point fifty, it's plus three hundred. It's still good value.

601
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 2: And I think that if he plays even one hundred games,

602
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 2: he's going to produce and going to get a lot

603
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:48,720
Speaker 2: of love because this is an award that will go

604
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 2: to a big name injured not just last year but

605
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 2: for a long time now. So I do think there's

606
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Speaker 2: actually serious consideration for trade. If you think he's going

607
00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 2: to stay on the field anyway, hit up that odds

608
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 2: boost to It is that time of year for college hoops,

609
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 2: so you can check it out for the women's March

610
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 2: matchups as well. Use your token to score a bigger

611
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 2: payout if you're women's March matchup. Bet wins gambling problem

612
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 2: more concern called winne hundred Campling.

613
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Speaker 5: We got Guardians versus Astros. Moving on against the Red Sox.

614
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 5: We got Orioles versus Detroit. Orioles win that one. In

615
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 5: the wild Cards, they go on to play Texas. Orioles

616
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Speaker 5: end up beating Texas, Boston ends up beating the Guardians,

617
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 5: and then Boston ends up going to the World Series

618
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:34,520
Speaker 5: on the AL side. On the NL side, we have

619
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Speaker 5: Atlanta versus Milwaukee. Atlanta takes down Milwaukee in the first

620
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Speaker 5: round and then Arizona and the Mets in the other

621
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Speaker 5: side Wildcard, with the Mets taking that one. The Mets

622
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Speaker 5: take on the Dodgers. The Dodgers take their first series,

623
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Speaker 5: and the Phillies take on the Braves and take them

624
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Speaker 5: down once again to go to the NLCS. Of inevitably,

625
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Speaker 5: the Phillies make it to the World Series and take

626
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Speaker 5: on the Boston Red Sox and your World Series cham Yes,

627
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 5: party like at two thousand and eight in Philadelphia.

628
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Speaker 2: Feelings nice well put together bracket by Trevor May in

629
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Speaker 2: terms of how he explained it. Did you like it, AJ, Yeah.

630
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Speaker 1: I don't have a problem with what I don't have

631
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 1: a problem with it. I could see I could make

632
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 1: a case for everything he said. I mean, I picked

633
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:24,720
Speaker 1: the Red Sox as the highest AL team on my

634
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Speaker 1: power rankings, and I had the Phillies what third of

635
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 1: my power rankings, So I mean it could change in

636
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Speaker 1: the next five minutes. But you know what, I like

637
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 1: what Trevor's did here. His explanations make sense and you

638
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 1: could see it. You can definitely see it happening.

639
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:42,479
Speaker 3: I agreed, agreed, And that's the Homer in me. It's funny,

640
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 3: who you know? He has the Rangers losing, and we

641
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 3: just talked to the Jeff Passon, who clearly sways AJ's decisions.

642
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 3: He has the Rangers winning, So I mean, I think

643
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:58,480
Speaker 3: you have you have the regular people in there. I

644
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 3: liked Haste he had the Brewers making the playoffs. I

645
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 3: liked how he had that. So he's got all my

646
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 3: Homer teams in there. So really, how mad could I

647
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 3: be at Trevor.

648
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 2: We'll do our predictions in the next day or two.

649
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 2: How many people do you think I'm obviously just asking

650
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 2: for a guestimate, what percentage AJ of writers and broadcasters

651
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 2: and people that throw out predictions every year do you

652
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 2: think are going to roll with the Dodgers or do

653
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 2: you think that most people in baseball just can't buy

654
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,120
Speaker 2: into the fact that a team is going to win

655
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 2: in back to back years.

656
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 1: Listen, if you gave me the Dodgers of the field,

657
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 1: I'd obviously take the field. But if you have to

658
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 1: give me right now, say one team to win the

659
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 1: World Series, I would have to say the Dodgers. I'll

660
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 1: always take the field against one team. But if I

661
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 1: have to make a prediction, Hey, who's gonna win the

662
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 1: World Series? My prediction would be the Dodgers. Why because

663
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 1: the depth and everything they have, and the starting pitching

664
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 1: and their lineup and everything. And the biggest key for

665
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 1: me is the resources and how they apply the resources.

666
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 1: Talked about Jeff pass and talked about it. The resources

667
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 1: and how they deploy those resources and use those resources.

668
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 1: We saw last year. They're not afraid to go get

669
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 1: a guy at the trade deadline. Oh we need Jack Flaherty,

670
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 1: let's go get them. Oh we need Tommy Edmond, let's

671
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 1: go get them. We need Michael Kopec Boom, We'll go

672
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 1: get them. Right all those all three of those guys

673
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 1: helped them win a World Series. They're not afraid to

674
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 1: make the move when they need to.

675
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 3: For McGough, Vargas, a guy that was already in the

676
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:22,959
Speaker 3: big leagues, like they're not afraid to go get rid

677
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 3: of big league guys. If you talk about those resources.

678
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 3: Years ago, when I was still playing back in like sixteen,

679
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 3: teams were coming into Triple A facilities and completely eliminating

680
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 3: all the like junk food out of there for their

681
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 3: minor leaguers. I'm like, who was just in here? They

682
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 3: were like Oklahoma City, the Dodgers Triple A at the time,

683
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 3: and I'm like, WHOA. So they've been doing this stuff

684
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 3: that Jeff was talking about in the really small areas

685
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 3: to make a big difference in the big leagues, and

686
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 3: you know it's paying off. But to me, no, don't.

687
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 3: I don't picked the Dodgers. It doesn't mean they're not

688
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 3: good enough. It just means it is tough to repeat.

689
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 3: Things come up when you play so far into the

690
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:13,439
Speaker 3: into the offseason. Plus they were in Korea last year.

691
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 3: That was a long season. Now they started their season

692
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 3: in Japan. Yes, they learned from it, but their season

693
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 3: just gets stretched farther and farther, and they don't have

694
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:24,720
Speaker 3: all the youngest players anymore.

695
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 2: That sparked a quick story for me. I never do them,

696
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 2: but I know someone that was high up in an organization,

697
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 2: and it was a while back who pitched a plan

698
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 2: to his owner to spend more money on food for players,

699
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 2: but really for minor leaguers specifically. He's like, these are kids,

700
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 2: they need to eat better, and I think if we

701
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 2: do that and care more about performance and health, it

702
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,759
Speaker 2: will make a huge difference. And the number he came

703
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 2: up with for how they were going to improve the

704
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 2: food situation was super small in baseball terms. I'm talking

705
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:01,319
Speaker 2: six figures, not seven. And it might have been, you know,

706
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 2: no more than five hundred k, but I think it

707
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:06,320
Speaker 2: was more like two hundred k. And the owner was like, no,

708
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:09,880
Speaker 2: they can figure it out themselves, and he was like okay.

709
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 2: And it definitely wasn't a strong organization, I'll put it

710
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 2: that way. It's one that often gets made fun of.

711
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 2: And that is where it doesn't matter what a salary

712
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:23,399
Speaker 2: cap looks like, how many players you buy all of that.

713
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 2: If you don't have someone that believes in some of

714
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 2: those little things and your front office puts all of

715
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 2: that work together and really sells you on a case

716
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 2: like that, sure they're not just going to keep flooding

717
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 2: you with millions of dollars of random things. You should spend.

718
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:39,279
Speaker 2: But Krats, that just reminded me about that situation. That's

719
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:40,360
Speaker 2: where you'll see a difference.

720
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 3: I've been banging that drum for a long time. If

721
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:46,719
Speaker 3: you can, because the value is all in the minor

722
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 3: league players. You get production from a minor league player,

723
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 3: that's salary. That's the way you keep salaries down. That's

724
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:58,799
Speaker 3: why teams who aren't trying call up minor leaguers and

725
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 3: don't go and get the vetter all the time because

726
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:04,839
Speaker 3: they're keeping salaries down. To me, if that's who you're

727
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 3: gonna call up, that's where your value is. Even if

728
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 3: you put in five hundred thousand dollars into a nutrition

729
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 3: program and you get one player that's helped by that

730
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:17,720
Speaker 3: nutrition program and becomes a viable big leaguer, it's paid

731
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 3: for itself, and you're gonna get way more than one player.

732
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 3: You're gonna get the most out of what you have.

733
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 1: By the way. Difference, By the way, the difference between

734
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:27,799
Speaker 1: me and Krats. When I was with Ozzie, they that

735
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 1: was when all the health kicks started in the big leagues,

736
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 1: and Ozzie's like nope. So we'd go into a place

737
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:34,800
Speaker 1: and they take all the junk food out. Ozzy'd be like,

738
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 1: get that crap back in here. We need ice cream,

739
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:38,719
Speaker 1: we need potato chips, we need fat guys because they

740
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:40,759
Speaker 1: can't pull fat. Let's go get the fat guys back

741
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:43,400
Speaker 1: in here. So there's a huge difference in philosophies.

742
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:49,759
Speaker 2: Things have changed, definitely quite a bit. Yes, we went

743
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 2: from you guys giving tips to clubbies to go pick

744
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:53,959
Speaker 2: up fast food.

745
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:57,239
Speaker 1: Oh, Popeyes was big on the list for a lot

746
00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:00,359
Speaker 1: of guys. Popeyes, Popeyes, Popeyes. Guys love the pop Buies.

747
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 1: Not that I didn't, but I'm just saying.

748
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, things have changed. All right, we'll swing back well,

749
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 2: do slap pands, yeah, exactly, all that, all the fast food,

750
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 2: it's mostly gone from the clubhouses. We can do this here.

751
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:15,759
Speaker 2: I mean we mentioned it briefly yesterday. But good for

752
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:19,479
Speaker 2: Ryan Yarborough. He signs up with the Blue Jays minor

753
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 2: league contract, doesn't make the team. Yankees liked what they

754
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 2: saw and crats. They give him two million bucks plus

755
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:30,799
Speaker 2: some performance incentives to join the squad. And obviously he's

756
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:33,759
Speaker 2: a He's a really unique arm actually, when you think

757
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 2: about it, three quarters arms, slot throws junk mid eighties fastball,

758
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 2: and you know he's able to figure out a way

759
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 2: to get out without swing and miss and provide something unique,

760
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:49,840
Speaker 2: and the Yankees do like variety. Also, I want to

761
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 2: give credit to the Yankees. They've mostly done a fantastic

762
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:56,279
Speaker 2: job of building a bullpen. And yes they quote spent

763
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:58,840
Speaker 2: for Devin Williams, but mostly via trade assets. It's not

764
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:01,319
Speaker 2: like he's on this massive con tracked. They often are

765
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 2: able to find diamonds in the rough. Yarborough is not

766
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:05,759
Speaker 2: that he's been part of some good organizations, but I

767
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 2: wouldn't be surprised if he has a good year for them.

768
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 2: This is not leading the world in great names. But

769
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 2: does anyone doubt that they'll have a pretty strong bullpen?

770
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 3: No, I mean there's no reason to doubt that they

771
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,400
Speaker 3: that they won't be a great bullpen because if they're not,

772
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:25,240
Speaker 3: they'll figure out other guys that can fit into different spots.

773
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 3: And it's not names that you really know. So you

774
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:31,280
Speaker 3: have your elite closer, you have the guy who probably

775
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 3: would have been the closer in Luke Weaver had they

776
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:37,400
Speaker 3: not gone out and gotten Devin Williams. But to me,

777
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 3: Yarborough is that guy who gives them depth in the

778
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:46,279
Speaker 3: sense of all right, Will Warren, Cookie carrasco the guys

779
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:51,320
Speaker 3: who are going to slide in for Heel and Garret Cole,

780
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 3: they're not. You can't expect two hundred innings out of

781
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:57,759
Speaker 3: those guys. So you need a guy like Yarborough. I'm

782
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:01,400
Speaker 3: surprised they haven't gone after Linn yet. But when you

783
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:05,840
Speaker 3: get a guy like Yarborough for two million, you can't

784
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:08,359
Speaker 3: you don't need to go. I guess get Lance Lynn

785
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:11,440
Speaker 3: for five million, who then I guess with the tax

786
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:14,239
Speaker 3: would be eleven point five million. You know all that

787
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 3: stuff that goes into it. But that's a great pickup.

788
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:20,280
Speaker 1: Mm hm, Well, you want funking bullpens, you want funky

789
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 1: different things, and Yarborough gives him length. He's funky, he's

790
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 1: got a weird he changes his arm angle. He's just

791
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 1: different than most guys you see. And the Yankees will

792
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:29,840
Speaker 1: figure out a way to use him, like like Kret says,

793
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:32,279
Speaker 1: with some of the guys behind him and being her

794
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 1: coal and Heel out and you know, we don't know

795
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 1: what you're gonna get from. So the Otherwans this is

796
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 1: a great you know, team Stacker lineups against the righty

797
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 1: well guess what they bring in, and then they bring

798
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 1: in the side arm lefty right, and then they can

799
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:44,839
Speaker 1: go back to the righty. So I love this move

800
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:46,799
Speaker 1: for not only Yarbs, but also for the Yankees. It's

801
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 1: it's just funk, and it's something different than teams don't

802
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 1: see all the time.

803
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 2: Yep. And now he's gonna get to go shove it

804
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:54,840
Speaker 2: to the Blue Jays and say, hey, you cut me.

805
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 2: Take this all right, let's slap. So the White Sox

806
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:06,400
Speaker 2: are trying to reverse their historic losing season, so they

807
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:12,280
Speaker 2: had a curse breaking ceremony where the infamous Black Sox ball,

808
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:16,360
Speaker 2: which was linked to the nineteen nineteen World Series scandalous team.

809
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:19,279
Speaker 2: It's being returned to the Tribune Tower where it was

810
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 2: first discovered in a twenty twenty two time capsule. Cute

811
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 2: little pr thing, but also it almost sounds like a

812
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 2: reverse the curse kind of thing, like you had an

813
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 2: historically bad season. But I don't know, this is weird.

814
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 2: Why don't you just sign some dudes and flip them

815
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:38,919
Speaker 2: at the deadline and get your team better?

816
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 1: You know, you know what this is? Did you see

817
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:45,440
Speaker 1: whose name was behind it? It was Harry Carey's restaurant.

818
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 1: You know what, this was a pr stun. How about

819
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 1: we go and get some better players. How about we

820
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:52,279
Speaker 1: make players. I mean it's a huge gimmick. It's listen,

821
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 1: there's people are talking about the White Sox. It's some

822
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 1: way to get some media attention because after the last year.

823
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:58,799
Speaker 1: But how about we not lose one hundred and twenty

824
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:00,799
Speaker 1: one games and what curse? There was no curse. We

825
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:02,360
Speaker 1: broke the curse in two thousand and five of the

826
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:04,799
Speaker 1: Black Sox. Give me that ball, se that thing on

827
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:07,759
Speaker 1: EBAYY make some money.

828
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:11,880
Speaker 2: White, Well, it's in a box.

829
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:12,720
Speaker 3: You can have the ball.

830
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:16,400
Speaker 1: I can't.

831
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, the ball that they just buried back in the

832
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:20,840
Speaker 3: time capsule.

833
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:24,479
Speaker 1: Did they really think that's why they lost one hundred

834
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 1: and twenty one games last year because the ball got

835
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:27,240
Speaker 1: taken out of a time capsule.

836
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:31,479
Speaker 3: I'll give you plenty of reasons of why they lost

837
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:34,440
Speaker 3: one hundred and it starts with one.

838
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 1: Old pd.

839
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 4: Y.

840
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 1: I mean, the worst season of all time and we

841
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 1: didn't even mention this. They have six guys already with

842
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:48,760
Speaker 1: TJ the spring in a month they've had exactly exact

843
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:51,320
Speaker 1: Maybe they need to take that ball back out, or

844
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 1: maybe they put that maybe they need to get an

845
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 1: elbow brace. I don't know. That's crazy to me. They

846
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 1: had six Tommy Johnes.

847
00:41:57,000 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 2: Some notable names in there include Drew Thorpe and Ki Busch.

848
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:04,239
Speaker 2: Thorpe was part of that Dylan Seize trade. It's kind

849
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 2: of a unique arm Tukes. It's not a big Bilo guy.

850
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:12,799
Speaker 2: Kai Bush, who was a part of that trade with

851
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 2: the Angels a few years back.

852
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 1: That was gonna be so last year. Two years ago

853
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:24,760
Speaker 1: they traded for Bush and kiro the catcher.

854
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:28,880
Speaker 2: Two years ago, remember they the Angels kept Otani and

855
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 2: said buying in.

856
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:35,840
Speaker 1: That Lopez and uh Gilito.

857
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:41,400
Speaker 2: Yep, yep, exactly for a minute, and then they cut him.

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Speaker 3: This is by the other teams when they can go

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Speaker 3: get value, when they can go get a player, it's

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Speaker 3: okay to go get the player. You don't know what's

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Speaker 3: going to happen with prospects. This sucks for those six guys.

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Speaker 3: It just is another example go and get the value

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Speaker 3: when you have your chance.

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Speaker 2: Lastly, on the topic of prospects, we talked about this

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Speaker 2: with Logan Ohappy yesterday. But Ian Anderson is traded for

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Speaker 2: Jose Swarez, so a little flip with the Angels and

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Speaker 2: the Braves, and good luck to Anderson. I hope things

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Speaker 2: work out for him there. I do.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully he stays healthy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the key. Obviously, he's been out for a while.

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Speaker 2: He's a big part of that World Series winning team.

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Speaker 2: In twenty twenty one guest list, I'll give you one

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Speaker 2: name for tomorrow, which is in Cincinnati. Jackson Holiday is

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Speaker 2: joining the show Tomorrow eleven am Eastern time. We go

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Speaker 2: until one. We'll be at Great American Ballpark. We'll talk

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Speaker 2: to Jackson Holiday remotely. We'll try and grab a player

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Speaker 2: inside if any of them wake up early enough to

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Speaker 2: hang out with us and save travels to the ft

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Speaker 2: team petting out to Cincinnati. Talk to everyone tomorrow