1 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 1: This this One Bill's Live, presented by Calllida Health. 2 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:39,560 Speaker 2: All Right, welcome into a Thursday edition of One Bill's Live. 3 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:41,919 Speaker 2: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you, coming to you live 4 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:46,200 Speaker 2: from One Bill's Drive. Joint practice going on today between 5 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 2: the Bills and Steelers down in Pittsburgh at Akroscher Stadium. 6 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 2: And uh, a little bit of a sucky start to 7 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 2: our Thursday. As the news came down last hour that 8 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 2: Bill's linecker Matt Mulano, who was injured in practice on Tuesday, 9 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:12,319 Speaker 2: suffered a torn bicep and is out indefinitely, possibly for 10 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 2: the entire twenty twenty four season. 11 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:17,479 Speaker 3: So happened on an. 12 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 2: Innocuous tackling drill where the linebackers were tackling bags, just 13 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 2: doing a fundamental tackling drill and tours bicep. So super, super, 14 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:36,479 Speaker 2: super super unfortunate. Hard not to feel for him after 15 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 2: he worked his butt off to get back from the. 16 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:44,960 Speaker 3: Complex leg break last year in Week five in London. 17 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 3: So just really a just a sucky start to our Thursday. Man, 18 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 3: that's stink. 19 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 1: And you do feel bad for him, I mean you, 20 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 1: I mean he has worked really hard and his McDermot 21 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 1: said in his remarks. Will let you listen to uh 22 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 1: in a little bit later in the show. Milanos was here, 23 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 1: I mean Brownie and I saw him all the time, 24 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 1: all winter had and he was here the entire offseason 25 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 1: getting ready and then to have this happen and just 26 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 1: like pull the rug out from under him. You got 27 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 1: a feel for the guy. It's it's a crusher. And 28 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 1: then uh, you know, and I was Brownie. I'm had 29 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 1: to talk Brownie off the ledge. 30 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 2: He's absolutely I'm just frustrated and disappointed and. 31 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 1: I got I get it. All. Bills fans should be 32 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 1: disappointed because you know the fact that this combination with 33 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:36,239 Speaker 1: Bernard and Milano in the five games of four or 34 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:40,079 Speaker 1: five games we saw them together, they were killing it, 35 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 1: tear it up. And now you know there we're not 36 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 1: gonna we're going to be deprived of that carrying again. 37 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 1: So uh sad for Matt Bummer for the team. Unfortunately, 38 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 1: you know, all of us, we've all been here before. 39 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:59,079 Speaker 1: I mean we've we've seen a lot of our favorite 40 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 1: players get hurt over the years. We've seen guys get 41 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 1: lost to injury before and the most it's the most 42 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 1: heartless thing about it is in the big scheme. The 43 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 1: Bills are taking the practice field the day, let's go, 44 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 1: and the train rolls, and it's it's that's the sad 45 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 1: part about it. 46 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:20,079 Speaker 2: And that's what coach McDermott said in his remarks, which 47 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:23,359 Speaker 2: again will play for you more in their entirety a 48 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 2: little bit later on in the show, but he said, 49 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 2: we have to be resilient as a team, just as 50 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 2: Matt does in his recovery, and we have to move 51 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 2: forward and find solutions. The number one solution is Dorian Williams, 52 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 2: who has had an outstanding camp and preseason in. 53 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 1: His own right. 54 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 2: So it's it's just nice to know you have Dorian 55 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 2: Williams on the roster to fill that void there. And 56 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 2: there is depth at the linebacker position. It may not 57 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 2: be made up of household names. The troubling thing is 58 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 2: we just learned today also that balin specter is dealing 59 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 2: with a calf injury and could miss up to a 60 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 2: week of action. Not participating today, and we'll get some 61 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 2: more details when we check in with Bill's reporter Maddy 62 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 2: Clab who is at the joint practices right now as 63 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 2: we speak at Akrosher Stadium. 64 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 3: We'll be checking in with her in just a little 65 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 3: bit here, but they're. 66 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 2: Gonna be shorthanded at linebacker going into this game. Even 67 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 2: Eddie Ulafotio, the rookie draft choice, has been dealing with 68 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:28,279 Speaker 2: a rib injury, just returned to practice this week on 69 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:31,679 Speaker 2: a non contact basis. He was out there at practice 70 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:35,279 Speaker 2: this week wearing a red jersey. He was not listed 71 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 2: as a non participant for this joint practice, so he 72 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 2: might be good to go, and couldn't get him back 73 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 2: soon enough based on, you know, the losses they've. 74 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 3: Had here due to injury thus far. 75 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, so it'll be it's gonna be an interesting weekend 76 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:54,040 Speaker 1: here as they you know, everybody kind of digests the 77 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 1: Milano news and we start to settle in on some 78 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 1: football again. Obviously, everybody's watching this game against Pittsburgh extremely 79 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:08,279 Speaker 1: closely because of the disappointing performance against the Chicago Bears. 80 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 1: I would think for most players and most people who 81 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:18,599 Speaker 1: watch the league closely, if you show in years past. 82 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 1: I'm not making it. I can't tell the future, but 83 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 1: in years past, you don't show up without being mentally 84 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 1: prepared to play the Pittsburgh Steelers and Mike Tomlin. If 85 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 1: you show up halfway you're gonna get beaten into the 86 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 1: ground like a tent steak. 87 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:36,839 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I don't. 88 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 2: I'm not anticipating a problem in the Bills being able 89 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 2: to bring it so to speak to this practice, especially 90 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:48,479 Speaker 2: after the way the game played out last week against 91 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 2: the Bears, where the Bills did not have a sense 92 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 2: of urgency, did not operate function in a consistent fashion, 93 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 2: did not perform at the line of scrim on both 94 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:04,840 Speaker 2: sides of the ball. So I'm fully expecting a much 95 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 2: more focused and intense performance from this Bill squad. 96 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 3: But as they go into this joint practice. 97 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 1: We do have a treat now right, Yes, we have a. 98 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 2: Bill's reporter, Maddy Glab on the scene at Akroscher Stadium 99 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 2: for today's joint practice. Maddie, thanks for taking the time 100 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 2: to join us. But holy cow, some sobering news there 101 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 2: at the outset of today's practice or today's press conference. 102 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:35,480 Speaker 3: I should say with coach McDermott, hold. 103 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:37,840 Speaker 1: On, We've got hold on, Maddie. We lost we lost 104 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 1: sound there for a minute. We're gonna come back to 105 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 1: you as soon as we get that fixed. Yeah, that's 106 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 1: that stinks, But that's what you could tell McDermott was 107 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 1: bummed too. He was obvious. Oh yeah, I mean that, 108 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:53,280 Speaker 1: you know, defensive coach losing a guy like Milano. Yeah, 109 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 1: and our even our Twitter question for today, how does 110 00:06:57,160 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 1: this affect your hopes for the Bill's defense this season? 111 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 2: And you're losing an All Pro player again. 112 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 1: And you're losing a playmaker. He wasn't just like a great, 113 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 1: He was an All Pro because he was a playmaker. 114 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 1: Guy was intercepting passes, tackles for losses, pass breakups, fumble recoveries, 115 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 1: force foaming. He was, you know, he was a walking 116 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 1: big play he was. 117 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 2: I know it's probably hard to remember, but those first 118 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 2: four weeks of the season last year, he Enterrel Bernard 119 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 2: looked like one of the best linebacker tandems in the league. 120 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 3: So that's where that's where we're at. 121 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 2: We're gonna try it again with Bill's reporter Maddy Gleab 122 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 2: down at Acrosser Stadium at the joint practice and Maddie, 123 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 2: as I said some sobering news to open up coach 124 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 2: McDermott's press conference, you could almost hear the disappointment in 125 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 2: his own voice. 126 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, guys, do you have me now? Can you hear me? 127 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 3: Yes? 128 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 5: We can yes, okay, great, Yeah, I mean the head coach, 129 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 5: Tean McDermott, walks into the press conference room and you're 130 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 5: just waiting for that update, knowing that there had been 131 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 5: some things on Twitter just moments before McDermott walked up 132 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 5: to talk to the media, and you know, we are 133 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 5: all hoping for the best case scenario, knowing what he 134 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 5: went through last season, just to get back from that 135 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 5: leg injury, starts training camp full go, which GM Brandon 136 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 5: Bean said, this is the best case scenario for Matt 137 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 5: right now. 138 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 4: He's worked all off season to get back to the. 139 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 5: Practice field and it's gonna take time for Matt Milano 140 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 5: to become Matt Milano again. And you're looking forward to 141 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 5: what this linebackers unit could be, which rel Bernard and 142 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 5: Matt Milano getting back together, and then you see what 143 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 5: happens in practice, which is so unfortunate. 144 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 4: Then we get the update for McDermott. 145 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 5: Today that it's it's gonna be a while as Matt 146 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 5: Milano goes through this process again with a new injury 147 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:56,960 Speaker 5: on his bicep and as he begins to recover and 148 00:08:57,000 --> 00:09:00,439 Speaker 5: get through things. Of course, no timetable set from Milano 149 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 5: right now hopefully he's able to get back to this 150 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 5: team before the end of the season, because it's heartbreaking 151 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 5: to think about what this guy went through last year 152 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 5: and to get back and be ready to go and 153 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 5: be stacking days together to get hurt in an individual 154 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 5: practice drill where he collides with a bag and possibly 155 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 5: the person holding the bag, and that results in a 156 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 5: new big injury for Milano. So, I mean, I know 157 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 5: all Bills fans are feeling it right now. We're all 158 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 5: feeling it to just feel for a guy who worked 159 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 5: so hard to get back and now is going to 160 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:35,199 Speaker 5: have some time out again. 161 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 1: And without trying to sound cold, is what happens with 162 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 1: Matt Milano turns into an opportunity. Let's not forget there 163 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 1: were twelve games last year when Matt Mlana was not 164 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 1: on the field at all. This defense is unfortunately a 165 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:51,960 Speaker 1: little accustomed to not having Milano on the field, and 166 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 1: Dorian Williams seems to be ready to slide into that. 167 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:56,839 Speaker 1: We were worried that there wasn't going to be a 168 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 1: place for Dorian Williams to get enough snap so we 169 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 1: could take advantage of him him and his abilities, But 170 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 1: now it looks like we have no choice and Dorian 171 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 1: Williams looks to slide into Ma Milano's spot. 172 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 5: It's Dorian Williams's opportunity. I mean they drafted him in 173 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 5: the third round a couple of years ago. You never 174 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 5: know when a kid and a player is gonna get 175 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:16,960 Speaker 5: their opportunity. 176 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 4: You probably draft. 177 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 5: Somebody like that with a vision of Okay, this is 178 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 5: what he's going to turn into. This is when we 179 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 5: believe this opportunity will come. But we know injuries happen 180 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 5: all the time and at the most random time. So 181 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 5: it's time for Dorian Williams to step up in this opportunity, 182 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 5: and Sean McDermott said he's been doing a good job. 183 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:40,080 Speaker 4: He will step up in Matt Milano's. 184 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 5: Place, but you can't fully replace a player like Milano 185 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:43,719 Speaker 5: with the. 186 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 4: Influence that he has on this field and the type 187 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 4: of player that he has. 188 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 5: This is an all pro that we're talking about, and 189 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 5: we're having a young player step up in his absence. 190 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 4: So it'll take a little bit of time for Williams 191 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:58,679 Speaker 4: to get used to things, but he's gotten. 192 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 5: Some time during preseason of course these last year as well, 193 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 5: and now training camp practices become even more important for 194 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:07,320 Speaker 5: this young player and Maddie. 195 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 2: That's not the only place where they have an injury 196 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 2: at the linebacker position. We just learned today that Baile 197 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 2: Inspector is going to miss up to a week of 198 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 2: action with a calf injury. 199 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 3: Forgive me, I didn't get the whole list. 200 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 2: Is is Nicholas Morrow back from injury yet or is 201 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 2: he still out of the lineup? 202 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 5: Nope, linebackers were right behind me a couple minutes ago. 203 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 5: So I was watching the group warm up get ready 204 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 5: for practice, and Nick Morrow is in shorts and a 205 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 5: T shirt, so he is not ready to go yet either. 206 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 5: So you're looking at two linebackers that are not practicing 207 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:40,560 Speaker 5: and the fact that Baile Inspector could be out a 208 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 5: week does not help this group at all. Eddie Yulafoscio 209 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 5: is out there in full pads, so he is going 210 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 5: to be practicing today. He's somebody who wasn't practicing the 211 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 5: last few days, so it's good to know that they 212 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 5: at least have one extra body there today. But guys, 213 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:58,199 Speaker 5: this was a situation we dealt with last year, going 214 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 5: through linebackers deep into the layoffs. Remember that game against 215 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:04,960 Speaker 5: the Chiefs where it was like, who is going to 216 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 5: be available to suit up for this position? Here we 217 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 5: are in the preseason kind of going through it again. 218 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 5: Hopefully the guys who are out aside from Aunt Molano 219 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 5: are able to get back on the practice field before 220 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:18,199 Speaker 5: the season begins. 221 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 1: Yeah. 222 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 2: And the other thing about that, Maddie, is we saw 223 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 2: the receiver position get hit by the injury or bug. 224 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 2: It necessitated two signings at the position in terms of 225 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 2: Dean Kine and then Demir Bird. 226 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 3: Any indication that they may have to add. 227 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 2: At the linebacker position in light of their reduced numbers, 228 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 2: you would. 229 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:45,119 Speaker 5: Think that would be something they're definitely considering. Sean McDermott 230 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 5: wasn't asked about it in a press conference today. So 231 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 5: I wonder if we could see some new additions to 232 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 5: this team. You wonder how this is gonna go though, 233 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 5: because today is Thursday. Tomorrow's an off day, but we're 234 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 5: in Pittsburgh and then Saturday is the same in preseason game. 235 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:03,959 Speaker 5: If they were to get somebody in here, it would 236 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 5: have to take place here because a lot of the 237 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 5: team is based out of here. I don't know if 238 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:10,680 Speaker 5: they're scouts back at home, who could run a tryout 239 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 5: right now, but figuring those things out if you're going 240 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 5: to try to get somebody here before the preseason game, 241 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:20,679 Speaker 5: would definitely take some hoops to jump through. But they 242 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:22,560 Speaker 5: did it with the wide receivers, and they did it 243 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 5: with a backup quarterback, getting Bendnucci in here pretty quickly 244 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 5: as well. 245 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:29,679 Speaker 4: So continuing to add to. 246 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 5: The injury list of guys who are out and then 247 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 5: replacing them with new players. It seems like every week 248 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:39,079 Speaker 5: now that we've hit preseason action, you got guys coming 249 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 5: in with just a couple days of practice and then 250 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 5: they're being released out onto the field to see what 251 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:44,560 Speaker 5: they can do. 252 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 4: Now, a lot of these guys, as we. 253 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 5: Heard from offensive coordinator Joe Brady, are getting a set 254 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:52,080 Speaker 5: menu of things they're going to run through. That's what 255 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 5: Brady told us about backup quarterback Ben Denucci, who just 256 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 5: got signed to this roster a couple days ago. So 257 00:13:57,520 --> 00:13:59,320 Speaker 5: maybe it's gonna be the same if they decide to 258 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 5: bring extra linebackers in here this. 259 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:05,839 Speaker 1: Week, No question they've got some. It's going to affect 260 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:08,719 Speaker 1: their playing time and some of the position groups are 261 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 1: gonna be really really They're gonna be really sensitive to 262 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 1: snap counts for guys they you know, on position groups 263 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:18,319 Speaker 1: that they don't want to, you know, get even thinner 264 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 1: at linebacker and wide receiver being two of them. There 265 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 1: are some other position groups though that the competition is 266 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 1: still hot and heavy. I think the offensive line behind 267 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 1: the front five, the offensive line still looks to be 268 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 1: really a race horse between some real some thoroughbreds. I mean, 269 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 1: we got some guys that can play. The offensive line 270 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 1: seems to be good. The defensive line, that's one to me. 271 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 1: When you think about the defensive line, Maddie Man, oh man, 272 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 1: don't let any of those guys get hurt. 273 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly. 274 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 5: And if you look at the younger guys who got 275 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 5: quite a few snaps in the preseason game in Jevon 276 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 5: Solomon and Duanne Carter, it's all about putting more reps 277 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 5: on tape, getting used to playing against somebody other than 278 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 5: the team you've practiced against for the past two weeks. 279 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 5: And we saw the score after that first preseason game 280 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 5: against the Bears, and it was all about fundamentals. We 281 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 5: heard from defensive coordinator Bobby Babbitch yesterday morning and he 282 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 5: was asked, how did you let the score get away 283 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 5: like that? You guys had a decent hold on the 284 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 5: team in the fourth quarter, but then the final score 285 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 5: is thirty three to six, and he said, it's. 286 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 4: All about fundamentals. That's what we have to go back to. 287 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 5: When you're failing at simple things like tackling and knowing 288 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 5: your assignments, then that's when something like that happens. But 289 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 5: it's also a balance of and head Coachron mc dermott 290 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 5: talk to us about this, it's a balance of knowing 291 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 5: it was the first NFL game for a lot of 292 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 5: these players, so you have to know things. 293 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 4: Like that are going to happen. But it's about how 294 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 4: you can come. 295 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 5: Back in the second preseason game and play more up 296 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 5: to that standard that they're so used to playing up to. 297 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 5: And it's about the veteran players communicating that as well. 298 00:15:57,200 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 5: The young defensive lineman and Solomon and Carter have been 299 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 5: a lot of fun to watch, as has the offensive 300 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 5: line group the twos who have been running with them 301 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 5: as well. 302 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 4: I mean, you look at this roster as a whole. 303 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 5: And you think about roster cuts coming in a couple 304 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 5: of weeks. 305 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 4: Some of these guys are. 306 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 5: Gonna get picked up by other teams because of the 307 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 5: depth that they still have at some position groups. 308 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 2: Last one, Maddie, we also heard from coach McDermott that 309 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 2: Curtis Samuel, Dawson Knox not going to go here at 310 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 2: the joint practice. 311 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 3: Maybe just bring us. 312 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 1: Up to speed. 313 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 3: He did outline what Knox is dealing with. 314 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 2: He did practice on Tuesday, but I guess came down 315 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 2: with something here. 316 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, Knox is dealing with groin soreness and calf injury 317 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 5: as well or ankle I should say, so that's what 318 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 5: Dawson is dealing with. Curtis Samuel, we didn't get updated 319 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 5: on exactly what that was. I believe the last time 320 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 5: he got an update was just general soreness. So possibly 321 00:16:57,240 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 5: still dealing with that, But you under what is it 322 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:04,639 Speaker 5: gonna look like? For the second preseason game. Sean McDermott 323 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 5: was asked who's gonna. 324 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:07,919 Speaker 4: Go what is it gonna look like? 325 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:10,359 Speaker 5: And he said, I have an idea of who's gonna 326 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:12,359 Speaker 5: be playing, but I don't want to tell you guys 327 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 5: right now as this team is about to take the 328 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 5: field for practice. It's not fair to these guys to 329 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:20,120 Speaker 5: be telling you these players are gonna start. 330 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:21,440 Speaker 4: These players aren't gonna play. 331 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 5: At all as we're about to go practice out here, 332 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 5: so maybe we'll get an update from him after practice. 333 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 4: But it's a long injury list today, so. 334 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 5: Some guys are gonna have to step up in those players' 335 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:34,959 Speaker 5: absence if they're not ready to go for Saturday night 336 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 5: second preseason game against the Steelers. 337 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 1: All right, Maggie, we can see the players, they're all 338 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:40,639 Speaker 1: starting to warm up. They're on the field behind you. 339 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 1: Any ideas to their general schedule for how long this 340 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 1: practice is gonna go this afternoon? I mean they're gonna 341 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:48,879 Speaker 1: take an entire day off tomorrow because you know, the 342 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 1: Bills are in Pittsburgh. There's no facilities for them to use. 343 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:54,160 Speaker 1: They're not gonna practice. How long will this practice go today? 344 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:54,640 Speaker 1: Do you think? 345 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 5: I believe they'll go about two hours? So we started 346 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:01,959 Speaker 5: practice around one o'clock. They're going through individual drills and 347 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 5: stretch right now. Then they'll get into team stuff later on. 348 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:08,920 Speaker 5: We heard throughout the week from several players and coaches 349 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 5: about what it's like to come here and do a 350 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 5: joint practice against a different team, and head coach Sean 351 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 5: McDermott said there is a lot of respect with the 352 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 5: Rooney family. There's a lot of respect with this team 353 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 5: and the Steelers. We know the connection between McDermott and 354 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 5: Steelers head coach Mike Tomlin and the fact that they 355 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:29,440 Speaker 5: both went to William and Mary together, but putting a 356 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 5: joint practice together is something that doesn't happen overnight. You 357 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 5: have to do it against a team who you're willing 358 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:36,679 Speaker 5: to trust and you respect. 359 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:39,120 Speaker 4: Because you're hoping this is just a practice. 360 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 5: Day, it's not a day full of crazy competition and injuries. 361 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 5: You want some of that competition out there, but you 362 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:46,680 Speaker 5: don't want anybody getting injured any more than this team 363 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 5: already has. But they're definitely looking forward to going up 364 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 5: against a different team. It's the dog days of training 365 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 5: camp right now. These guys are tired of going up 366 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:58,160 Speaker 5: against each other and it's nice to go up against 367 00:18:58,160 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 5: somebody else. A lot of the players said this will 368 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:02,680 Speaker 5: get us a good gauge of where we're at. We'll 369 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 5: get to find out some strengths and weaknesses by going 370 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:09,640 Speaker 5: up against somebody other than ourselves, and the head coach, 371 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:12,479 Speaker 5: Bobby Babbage said, it's nice to be able to practice 372 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:15,159 Speaker 5: against the Steelers because we can install some things that 373 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:17,199 Speaker 5: we want to see. Hey, this guy. We want you 374 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:19,159 Speaker 5: to run this and we want to see what it 375 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 5: looks against this offensive look and vice versa, so there 376 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 5: will be a lot of that as well. You also 377 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:28,680 Speaker 5: wonder how this practice could factor into some playing time 378 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:32,359 Speaker 5: for guys when we think about Saturday night. Are some 379 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:34,680 Speaker 5: guys going to get way more reps today and then 380 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 5: they'll rest for Saturday night too, So that's something to 381 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 5: think about as well. 382 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 2: All Right, Maddie, thanks for helping us out here. Go 383 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:43,719 Speaker 2: watch practice, get your stuff done. We'll look for your 384 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 2: coverage at Buffalo Bills dot com. 385 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 3: Thanks very much. 386 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:49,400 Speaker 4: All right, thanks guys, have a great rest of the show. 387 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 2: All right, that's Maddi glab Bill's reporter joining us live 388 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 2: from Acroshuer Stadium in Pittsburgh with the lowdown on what's 389 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 2: going on down there. They are shorthanded at linebacker. Holy cow, 390 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 2: I mean three guys are not in practice. Mamlano obviously 391 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 2: out and definitely may miss the entire season with the 392 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 2: torn biceps that's gonna have to require a surgical repair. 393 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:11,680 Speaker 2: Baylen Spector, in case you're just joining us, is got 394 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 2: a calf injury. He could miss up to a week, 395 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:16,359 Speaker 2: so he's not practicing today, obviously not gonna play in 396 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:19,159 Speaker 2: the game on Saturday night. And then Nicholas Morrow, the 397 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 2: veteran linebacker, is still not back from his injury alment. 398 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 2: He's been out over a week and so I doubt 399 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:26,639 Speaker 2: he's gonna go on Saturday. Or maybe they're resting him 400 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 2: today so he can go Saturday. But having not practiced 401 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 2: a week, I can't see him going into a game situation. 402 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:35,359 Speaker 2: That's just not a smart move. So the good news 403 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 2: is they get Eddie Ulafochio back. He has been playing 404 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 2: the mic linebacker position, so you would anticipate he's gonna 405 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 2: fill in in the rotation, perhaps as high as the 406 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 2: second unit. 407 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 1: He's the fifth guy. 408 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 3: I mean, he's gonna be the second unit there, I 409 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 3: line back. 410 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 1: He's not bet he's not the second unit now after 411 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 1: he comes back. He's been out for a minute. 412 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:57,919 Speaker 2: He practiced on Tuesday in a red non contact jersey. 413 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:00,119 Speaker 2: He does not have that today. According to Maddie, he's 414 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 2: gonna be full go today. So provided he gets through 415 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 2: this practice today, fine, he's your second team mike linebacker 416 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 2: right now. You don't have Morrow and you don't have Specter. Ye, 417 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 2: those are the guys running with the twos and sometimes 418 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 2: the threes. That's your second team middle linebacker right there, 419 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 2: the rookie draft choice out of Washington, and he's gonna 420 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:19,439 Speaker 2: probably pair with just looking at the depth chart, he's 421 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:23,399 Speaker 2: pair with Dion Jones, the veteran at the will. So basically, 422 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 2: Dorian Williams becomes Matt Milano and Dion Jones becomes Dorian 423 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:31,199 Speaker 2: Williams with the second unit, and then you're down to 424 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:33,680 Speaker 2: Joe Andreeson as your third team mike linebacker. 425 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 1: You don't have anybody else, right, you don't have anybody else. 426 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 1: It's Dorian Williamson, Terrel Bernard, Andresen Deon Jones. 427 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:45,359 Speaker 2: Shane Simon's Shane Simon's your your third team, your third 428 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 2: team guy to pair up with Joe Andreeson. And you're 429 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:51,120 Speaker 2: going into this game with six linebackers and you're hanging 430 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 2: by your fingernails hoping nobody else gets hurt. 431 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 3: They're gonna have to sign somebody. 432 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:56,879 Speaker 1: You better study up on Shane Simon. 433 00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:58,680 Speaker 3: I mean, well, he's from Penn State. 434 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 1: He's gonna get a lot of he's gonna be a 435 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 1: lot of reps. 436 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 2: The crazy thing is that guy had to get moved 437 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 2: off the roster for injury problems at other positions, and 438 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 2: then then they brought him back when they had an opening. 439 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 3: It's a good thing they did. 440 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:11,920 Speaker 2: They get they're going into this game with six. They're 441 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 2: gonna play a ton and they gotta sign people that 442 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 2: probably not for this game on Saturday, but for next 443 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 2: week in practice. 444 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 1: You're not getting anybody. Now it's too late. You can't 445 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 1: get it. 446 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 3: Not for Saturday. 447 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:24,919 Speaker 1: You can't throw them out there Saturday. 448 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:25,879 Speaker 3: For Saturday, forget it. 449 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:27,879 Speaker 1: But you're gonna be can't even get them in. You're 450 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 1: a practice against I mean once the day you can 451 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:34,720 Speaker 1: sign them, but you know you're you're not gonna play 452 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 1: them on Saturday. 453 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 2: You gotta add people to the roster though, so you're 454 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:39,159 Speaker 2: ready to go next week. 455 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 1: In practice, you can add them, but here's the problem. 456 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 1: You add him, somebody's out the door. 457 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 2: Well Matlo's going on ir you know that, right, So 458 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:50,400 Speaker 2: now you got some slots, so there's a spot, there's one. 459 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 1: Then what are you gonna do if you start going light? 460 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 1: What are you gonna do? You're not gonna you know, 461 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 1: you're not gonna cut one of these safeties that you've 462 00:22:58,000 --> 00:22:59,879 Speaker 1: got to have them you know you're thin at some 463 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:03,159 Speaker 1: of these spots, then you can start getting into this 464 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 1: position groups where you're fat, like the offensive line. I 465 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 1: don't know if you want to you don't want to 466 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 1: let those guys go che now, I could? You know? 467 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 1: I we'll see, we'll see. But yeah, this is Brandon 468 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 1: Bean has got to be sitting over there with his 469 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 1: with his crew going all right, what were we gonna do? 470 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:23,879 Speaker 3: Well? No, they have a plan. 471 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:27,400 Speaker 2: They always have a working list available talent. It gets 472 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:30,119 Speaker 2: updated every single day in the pro Personnel department, and 473 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:32,640 Speaker 2: they have a list. They have a list at every position. 474 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 2: So they'll be on the phones, working the phones, trying 475 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:35,560 Speaker 2: to add somebody. 476 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 3: And you know that's kind of where it is right now. 477 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:40,959 Speaker 1: Send your sends your security guy to the airport. He's 478 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:41,880 Speaker 1: picking somebody up. 479 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:46,640 Speaker 3: Yes, there will be new linebackers at practice on Monday. 480 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 3: I mean it's guaranteed. You can't be down three linebackers. 481 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, unless Nick Morrow or Spector, which unexpectors out a 482 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 1: week expectedly unexpectedly get better. Yeah, I mean that that's it, and. 483 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 2: Unless Morrow is a day away from returning. But if 484 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 2: he's not practicing today, there's no way he's playing the 485 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:09,639 Speaker 2: game on Saturday, I don't think so. They are triaging 486 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 2: the linebacking position right now, and I would expect they're 487 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:17,719 Speaker 2: gonna add one, maybe two by the time we get 488 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:23,440 Speaker 2: to Monday. And that's under the hope and the guys 489 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 2: that you get through Saturday night healthy at the linebacker position. 490 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 2: This is how quickly though an injury problem can crop up, 491 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 2: just unfortunate and look for the most part, with the 492 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 2: exception of the safety position and the wide receiver position, 493 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 2: the Bills have kind of gone unscathed as far as 494 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:46,439 Speaker 2: serious long term injuries are concerned. I will say the 495 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:49,399 Speaker 2: encouraging thing about the safety position was, for the first 496 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 2: time on Tuesday at practice, Cole Bishop was not just 497 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 2: on the stationary bike. He was doing conditioning work on 498 00:24:56,920 --> 00:25:00,399 Speaker 2: the field, which would tend to indicate he's closer to 499 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 2: a return. 500 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 1: Now. 501 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 2: By no means do I think he's gonna He's not 502 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 2: practicing today, He's probably not gonna play on Saturday, but 503 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 2: you would hope maybe there's something in the cars there 504 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:10,639 Speaker 2: where he can get back in the practice setting in 505 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 2: some capacity next week. 506 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:17,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's a little disconcerting that that's all we 507 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:19,359 Speaker 1: have to talk about. I mean, we can't. We're not 508 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 1: talking about battles and training camp and who's having good prizes. 509 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,920 Speaker 1: It's who's healthy. And that's a real issue going to 510 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:28,440 Speaker 1: the season that you know, it was my thought this 511 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 1: might be less of a storyline at this point in 512 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:33,440 Speaker 1: training camp because of the you know, how young they 513 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 1: got on the roster. I don't know. Perhaps it signals 514 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:41,440 Speaker 1: a little uptick and tempo at practice, you know, maybe 515 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 1: because all these guys going down with injuries. You know, 516 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:47,359 Speaker 1: Cole Bishop got hit in practice just a day or 517 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 1: two into padded practices. He got hit I think in 518 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 1: the back and he's still out. So that strikes me 519 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 1: as maybe he had a busted rib or something. 520 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, and they're short at receiver again today because even 521 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:02,160 Speaker 2: though they added Dean Can and Demir Bird, Lawrence Keys 522 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:05,119 Speaker 2: got injured to practice on Tuesday. He's not participating today, 523 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 2: and neither is Curtis Samuel, who was labeled with general sorenis, 524 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 2: did not practice on Tuesday and is not going today. 525 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:14,880 Speaker 2: Maybe he's maybe he's available and up for the game 526 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 2: on Saturday, but not doing anything today. So you're down 527 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 2: two receivers again today. 528 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 1: I think Samuel's precautionary and they don't want that guy 529 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 1: going anywhere near an injury. 530 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:30,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I mean, thank goodness, they signed Dion Caanan 531 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:32,640 Speaker 2: Tamir Bird the other day. 532 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 1: Well, they were out in front of it. They could 533 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 1: see this coming. But this is a it's a real issue. 534 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 1: We'll see how they get through this practice. I'm really 535 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:47,159 Speaker 1: interested in hearing the attitude of these teams at this practice. 536 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:52,919 Speaker 1: Both teams lost their preseason opener, the Bills badly, the 537 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 1: Steelers not so much. They lost by what eight or 538 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:56,680 Speaker 1: something like that? 539 00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:58,920 Speaker 3: Sold Yeah, twenty to twelve to Houston. 540 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, so it was, you know, a little closer. But nevertheless, 541 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:06,359 Speaker 1: I think both these teams are like, you know, looking 542 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:08,160 Speaker 1: to rebound just a little bit. 543 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:10,160 Speaker 3: Yeah. 544 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 2: As far as other Bills news is concerned, there was 545 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 2: a report late yesterday that the Bills worked out former 546 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 2: first round draft choice Corey Davis, who, if you remember, 547 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 2: signed in free agency with the Jets a couple of 548 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 2: years ago, and then last year at this time up 549 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 2: and retired as a young player. I think he was 550 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:33,400 Speaker 2: only twenty eight years old at the time. Now, as 551 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:37,879 Speaker 2: we understand it, he has unretired, having not played a 552 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:41,359 Speaker 2: game since the twenty twenty two season and is looking 553 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:44,640 Speaker 2: to latch on somewhere. Bills worked him out. I don't 554 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 2: know that it means anything unless maybe the lawn If 555 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 2: the Lawrence Keys injury turns out to be something long 556 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:52,960 Speaker 2: term at the receiver position for the Bills, maybe there's 557 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,879 Speaker 2: an opening and maybe they consider Corey Davis. But this 558 00:27:56,040 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 2: sounded exploratory in nature. Whether it leads to something remains 559 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:01,440 Speaker 2: to be seen. 560 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 1: They just want to evaluate him so they know if 561 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:04,359 Speaker 1: they call them, they know what they're getting. 562 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 3: Yep. Now, And that's the kind of leg work that 563 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:08,200 Speaker 3: the pro personnel does. 564 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:09,720 Speaker 1: That's what does it. They do that all the time. 565 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 1: And that doesn't even mean that Corey Davis had to 566 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 1: be here, although I don't know if he was here 567 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 1: or not. But they'll send scouts out to look at 568 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:21,359 Speaker 1: guys they've got. Obviously they have a long list. I 569 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:27,359 Speaker 1: know the NFL itself, the league office keeps track of well. 570 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:29,239 Speaker 1: I think it's a couple of one hundred guys who 571 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:32,680 Speaker 1: are fresh out of the National Football League and thirteen 572 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:36,160 Speaker 1: twelve or thirteen hundred guys who are eligible to come 573 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 1: into the NFL in the coming year, and then also 574 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:44,720 Speaker 1: all the free agents and players who don't happen to 575 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 1: have contracts right now, We're. 576 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 2: Going to quickly go around the NFL here presented by 577 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 2: Colida Health. Before we get to the break and Colid 578 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 2: Coalida Healthy official healthcare system. 579 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 3: Of the Buffalo Bills, we begin with a trade. 580 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 2: Matthew Judon, the disgruntled pass rusher of the Patriots who 581 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:06,640 Speaker 2: has been holding in for the most part at Patriots camp, 582 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:11,120 Speaker 2: has been traded sent to the Atlanta Falcons in exchange 583 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 2: for a third round draft choice. 584 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:15,960 Speaker 3: No word on whether Judon will. 585 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 2: Get the new contract he was seeking from the Patriots 586 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 2: from the Falcons. But the Falcons are loaded for bear now. 587 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 2: I mean you think about the talent they have on 588 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 2: that roster on offense, you know, Bijon Robinson, the tight 589 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 2: end Tyler Pitts, and then they've got the big time 590 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 2: receiver who they drafted at a USC a couple of 591 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 2: years ago. So they're loaded on offense in terms of talent, 592 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,479 Speaker 2: and now you're adding a pass rusher the caliber of Judon. 593 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 2: I mean, the Falcons were down near the bottom of 594 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 2: the league in sacks last year. 595 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 3: They needed a proven pass rusher. They're getting one in Judah. 596 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:56,880 Speaker 1: Right, and it was a needed boost for them, no question. 597 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,080 Speaker 1: Last year, and if you remember, I don't know if 598 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 1: you keep a lot of people don't, but the Falcons 599 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 1: were third in the division, behind Tampa Bay and New Orleans. 600 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:08,400 Speaker 1: They were seven and ten, only two games out of 601 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 1: first place. New Orleans and Tampa Bay were both nine 602 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 1: and eight. Atlanta doesn't feel like they're that far away 603 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 1: and Kirk Cousins in their rummy division, Yes, exactly. And 604 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins will give them steady quarterback play, which they 605 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:29,800 Speaker 1: struggled to get last year. We'll see. I think it's 606 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 1: I think Atlanta's doing the right for a third for 607 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 1: Matt Judon. Yeah, okay, that's if you got the money 608 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:39,720 Speaker 1: to give him a new deal, which with a with 609 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:44,960 Speaker 1: a quick check of that, it is. The Atlanta Falcons 610 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:48,080 Speaker 1: have well, they're way down here. They've only got one 611 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:53,280 Speaker 1: hundred and thirty nine grand of cap space. I don't 612 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 1: know how that's gone. 613 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:55,240 Speaker 3: I don't think it's happening. 614 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 1: I don't think it's happening. They are thirty second in 615 00:30:58,280 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 1: the league in cap space. 616 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, because of the contract they gave to Cousins. That's 617 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:07,200 Speaker 2: why they got nothing to play with. They probably told him, hey, man, 618 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 2: come down here play. We're trying to make the playoffs. 619 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 2: You know, at least you're gonna play for a playoff team, 620 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:14,080 Speaker 2: hopefully rather than the Patriots who are not going to 621 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 2: be good this year, and you know, you hit free 622 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:18,480 Speaker 2: agency next year and go get them. 623 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:19,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, that kind of thing. 624 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:24,479 Speaker 1: Who knows how, you know how it will go with him, 625 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 1: But he's a he's an upgrade. Yeah, he's absolutely an upgrade. 626 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:32,920 Speaker 2: The Dallas Cowboys had some joint practices with the Rams 627 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,160 Speaker 2: and clearly did not like what they saw in terms 628 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 2: of depth at their defensive line, because they made two acquisitions. 629 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 2: The Dallas Cowboys traded with the New York Giants to 630 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 2: acquire former Bills defensive tackle Jordan Phillips from the Giants 631 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:48,840 Speaker 2: along with a seventh round pick in exchange for a 632 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:52,040 Speaker 2: sixth round pick. So Jordan Phillips helps to plug up 633 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 2: the middle of their defensive interior in terms of a 634 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:58,520 Speaker 2: depth piece. And then they also signed former Jets pass 635 00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:04,040 Speaker 2: rusher Carl Lawson, So two defensive line additions for the 636 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:08,920 Speaker 2: Dallas Cowboys in the wake of joint practices with the Rams. 637 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:12,040 Speaker 2: And incidentally, there's Rams news out of those joints practices 638 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 2: as well. Matthew Stafford left practice with a hamstring injury, 639 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:21,000 Speaker 2: so that is not good for the Rams. And their 640 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:26,040 Speaker 2: backup quarterback is former national champion at a University of Georgia. 641 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 2: No Stetson Bennett, stets and Bennett, and that's in Bennett 642 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:34,720 Speaker 2: through a couple of picks the other day. So well, 643 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:39,760 Speaker 2: it happens Sam Darnold did too, So that's the bar 644 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:44,240 Speaker 2: is low. Well, right, everybody throws, but their preseason, they're 645 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:47,720 Speaker 2: definitely panicking in Rams country that. I mean, look, he 646 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 2: should be able to get back from that injury in 647 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 2: time for the regular season, but Stafford is probably missing 648 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 2: the rest of the preseason. Not that the Rams play 649 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:57,960 Speaker 2: their starters a ton in the preseason anyway, but you 650 00:32:58,040 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 2: just don't like seeing your quarterbacks. 651 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,840 Speaker 1: You gotta know. We had this huge comment and I 652 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,760 Speaker 1: went crazy yesterday. I'm kind of raised my voice to 653 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 1: above acceptable levels telling you that your I don't care 654 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:13,880 Speaker 1: if your backup quarterback can play. If your quarter starter 655 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:19,960 Speaker 1: goes down, you're cooked. So your backup quarterback is there 656 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 1: for one reason. That's to help get your number one 657 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 1: guy ready to play. Because if we all know what 658 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:28,840 Speaker 1: happens when you're number one? Guy goes down and. 659 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:31,640 Speaker 2: I'll look and going back to the Judeon trade, I'll 660 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:34,800 Speaker 2: give the Patriots credit here. He won an extension. They 661 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 2: weren't going to give it to him because he's thirty 662 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,240 Speaker 2: two years old. They're not going to be good and 663 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 2: by the time they are good again, he's going to 664 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 2: be retired. So why throw money at that guy? So 665 00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 2: you got a third round pick, Good for you. You 666 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:47,920 Speaker 2: got to rebuild your roster. 667 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 1: You'll get there faster if you save the money and 668 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,719 Speaker 1: let him go. He might take some lumps earlier because 669 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:57,760 Speaker 1: of it. He's now everybody thinks the Patriot defense is 670 00:33:57,800 --> 00:33:58,640 Speaker 1: going to be just fine. 671 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 2: The defense is decent, right. I just don't think you're 672 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,240 Speaker 2: gonna be able to score any points. Did you see 673 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:06,920 Speaker 2: Boston Globe reporter Greg Badard's assessment of the joint practice 674 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:08,600 Speaker 2: offense from the Patriots. 675 00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 1: I did not. 676 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:13,839 Speaker 2: He said it was so bad he wanted to end 677 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:18,239 Speaker 2: his life. That's how despicable it was. Anyway, that's around 678 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,640 Speaker 2: the NFL. We've got to take a break here. When 679 00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:22,520 Speaker 2: we come back, we're gonna bring you the comments of 680 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,240 Speaker 2: head coach Sean McDermot, who addressed the media right before 681 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:30,680 Speaker 2: practice and confirmed the potentially season ending injury to Matt 682 00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:33,640 Speaker 2: Mulana a torn biceps, may not get back before the 683 00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:35,719 Speaker 2: end of the season. We have those comments for you 684 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:53,520 Speaker 2: next here on One Bill's Life. All right, back here 685 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:56,040 Speaker 2: on One Bill's Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker, we're gonna 686 00:34:56,480 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 2: pass along coach mcdermot's comments right before the joint practic 687 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,759 Speaker 2: this in Pittsburgh that's taking place now, and you can 688 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 2: visibly hear his disappointment as he describes and confirms the 689 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,520 Speaker 2: potentially season ending injury to Matt Mullona. 690 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:13,040 Speaker 6: What what happened? Uh, As much as you can give 691 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:14,880 Speaker 6: us about the injury and practicing. 692 00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:18,239 Speaker 7: You say, yeah, it was just a tackling drill and 693 00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:24,239 Speaker 7: and Matt was tackling a bag and hit his arm 694 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:29,680 Speaker 7: and looked like maybe on somebody's leg just a little bit. 695 00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,400 Speaker 7: And and then that's what we think we think was 696 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:33,680 Speaker 7: the was the episode. 697 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:35,880 Speaker 8: Is there a possibility of him returning this year? Is 698 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,480 Speaker 8: too early? Yeah, Jay, too early? At disappointed? 699 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:42,640 Speaker 1: You touched on a little bit ere we stated there, 700 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 1: but you know, he went through it last year and 701 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:48,560 Speaker 1: he thought real hard to get back devastating. 702 00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:51,480 Speaker 8: Is this just from a personal level for him. 703 00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:52,839 Speaker 7: Well, we're all human at the end of the day, 704 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:55,680 Speaker 7: and uh, I mean, Matt's a heck of a football player. 705 00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:58,120 Speaker 7: But if we if we back up and and those 706 00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:01,840 Speaker 7: of us that know Matt, I mean, he's a tremendous 707 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,080 Speaker 7: young man. He's got a good head on his shoulders, 708 00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:06,239 Speaker 7: He's been through it and this game means a lot 709 00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:09,359 Speaker 7: to him, This team means a lot to him. And 710 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:12,799 Speaker 7: so that, in addition to the injury, is what makes 711 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:17,640 Speaker 7: this makes this difficult again when you know the person, 712 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,839 Speaker 7: you know that this is not gonna beat or keep 713 00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:24,560 Speaker 7: Matt Malone down. You know, obviously this period in time 714 00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:26,880 Speaker 7: right now is has been tough for him, for all 715 00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:28,920 Speaker 7: of us, but in particular for him and his family. 716 00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:30,920 Speaker 7: And he knows all the work that he put in. 717 00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:32,719 Speaker 7: No one knows the work that Matt put in to 718 00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:37,160 Speaker 7: get get himself back to where he was before before 719 00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:41,960 Speaker 7: this recent injury. So you know, that's that's probably one 720 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,640 Speaker 7: of the harder things to swallow, pills to swallow right now, 721 00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:47,319 Speaker 7: is we just saw him work his his butt off. 722 00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:50,759 Speaker 7: He stayed, he stayed in Buffalo all summer to get 723 00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:53,399 Speaker 7: back off of off of the leg injury and now 724 00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:57,919 Speaker 7: and now this happens, so you know, it's unfortunate set 725 00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:00,600 Speaker 7: of circumstances. But again I know he's going to handle 726 00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:00,919 Speaker 7: it well. 727 00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:06,759 Speaker 2: Just declar it is a bicep right, Yes, prepared is 728 00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:10,000 Speaker 2: Dorian Williams to potentially slide into that role? 729 00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:12,399 Speaker 8: Yeah, Dorian's going to do a good job. 730 00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:16,239 Speaker 7: He's been making progress and and uh, it's now not 731 00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:18,319 Speaker 7: only his time to step up, but but all the 732 00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:20,640 Speaker 7: all his teammates around him to step up. It's not 733 00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:23,920 Speaker 7: just one person's job to fill to fill the void 734 00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:26,040 Speaker 7: or try and fill the void, you know, left by Matt. 735 00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:29,200 Speaker 7: It's you're never going to replace a player like Matt 736 00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:33,120 Speaker 7: or Matt's influence. But now it's time for our team 737 00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:36,800 Speaker 7: to to uh to move forward in a resilient manner 738 00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:39,160 Speaker 7: and and pick each other up and and guys like 739 00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:40,359 Speaker 7: Dorian have to step up. 740 00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:46,160 Speaker 9: Sean, what do you hope to accomplish out there today? 741 00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:46,239 Speaker 7: Like? 742 00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:48,360 Speaker 9: What's the goal from you as a head coach and 743 00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:49,480 Speaker 9: a joint practice today? 744 00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:54,080 Speaker 7: Yeah? I mean, first of all, choosing Pittsburgh and Pittsburgh 745 00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:56,719 Speaker 7: choosing us I have a lot of respect for and 746 00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:58,640 Speaker 7: we have a lot of respect for the Rooney family 747 00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:01,680 Speaker 7: in this organization. They've done things at a high level 748 00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:06,160 Speaker 7: for a long time, and. 749 00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:06,280 Speaker 8: Mike and I go back aways as well. 750 00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:10,400 Speaker 7: So that respect and that trust we're critical ingredients in 751 00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:13,160 Speaker 7: terms of us deciding to do this together. And they're 752 00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:16,480 Speaker 7: a good football team with good players, and we anticipate 753 00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:17,880 Speaker 7: getting real good work out there today. 754 00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:20,840 Speaker 2: There was a Bell coach that said that a player 755 00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:24,279 Speaker 2: fights the joint practice, that it would dictate what they 756 00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:26,799 Speaker 2: how long they play in the next preseason game. Do 757 00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:28,640 Speaker 2: you have any rules like that with your players that 758 00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:30,399 Speaker 2: you talk about. No, just that. 759 00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,800 Speaker 7: If they fight, they're out, So they're out of this practice. 760 00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:37,440 Speaker 7: If they fight, that's not how we do do things. 761 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:41,799 Speaker 7: It is emotional, it is competitive, you know. So we're 762 00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:46,560 Speaker 7: hoping that one practice, one practice is a good, clean practice. 763 00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:48,200 Speaker 7: They get the work they need, We get the work 764 00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:51,960 Speaker 7: we need, and we got to keep bigger picture perspective 765 00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:53,440 Speaker 7: here in terms of what we're trying to do for 766 00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:54,680 Speaker 7: the season and what they're trying to. 767 00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:56,919 Speaker 8: Do with good Matt out. How much do you again 768 00:38:56,960 --> 00:39:00,439 Speaker 8: look to Terrell as a leader of that group. Yeah, 769 00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:01,439 Speaker 8: similar to last year. 770 00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:03,480 Speaker 7: I mean he came in as a young player, and 771 00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:06,280 Speaker 7: having not really played a whole lot himself last season 772 00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:08,759 Speaker 7: and had a good season, and and so what I've 773 00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:11,319 Speaker 7: seen over the offseason is him continue to step up 774 00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:14,480 Speaker 7: his his influence as a leader on our football team. 775 00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:19,399 Speaker 7: And he's been very intentional about that. And and so yeah, 776 00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:22,439 Speaker 7: I mean it's you know, developing that rapport. Now last 777 00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:24,360 Speaker 7: year it was and I was looking forward to watching 778 00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:26,520 Speaker 7: mattin and and TV worked together. 779 00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:29,279 Speaker 8: Now it's doing and TV at this point. And and so. 780 00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:33,040 Speaker 7: That that rapport and building that report is going to 781 00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:39,799 Speaker 7: be important for us. Dawson's growing in a little bit 782 00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,319 Speaker 7: of ankle as well, So we're just being smart at 783 00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:45,440 Speaker 7: this point the inspectrum, what's his timeline? 784 00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:49,880 Speaker 8: Don't really know for sure, Catherine. It will probably be 785 00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:55,040 Speaker 8: maybe a week. We'll see maybe a little bit more. 786 00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:56,839 Speaker 2: Can you enjoy them? 787 00:39:57,080 --> 00:40:01,720 Speaker 10: Kath talk to a couple days Bill about the conversation 788 00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:03,719 Speaker 10: you had prior to this practice. What is kind of 789 00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:05,960 Speaker 10: the things that a coach would go over in that 790 00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:07,880 Speaker 10: conversation before I joined practice. 791 00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:12,040 Speaker 8: Yeah, it's kind of it's kind of. 792 00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:16,839 Speaker 7: You kind of come to the table even though we 793 00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:18,439 Speaker 7: were over the phone, and just kind of say, hey, 794 00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:21,239 Speaker 7: this is we're on the same page, right, and uh, 795 00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:24,920 Speaker 7: you know it's interesting because you're going through so much. 796 00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:26,399 Speaker 8: He's focused on his team. 797 00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:29,439 Speaker 7: I'm focused on our team, and you know, you're coming 798 00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:32,600 Speaker 7: off of preseason game one and then you're still practicing 799 00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:34,880 Speaker 7: trying to improve in the in the week between that, 800 00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:36,839 Speaker 7: roughly the week between that. 801 00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:39,040 Speaker 8: We had in terms of a couple of days actually, but. 802 00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:41,759 Speaker 7: You know, I mean we just talked about making sure 803 00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:44,440 Speaker 7: we're aligned on hey, how this is gonna look. And 804 00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:47,800 Speaker 7: we came yesterday, uh, myself and some of the staff, 805 00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:50,400 Speaker 7: and we made sure we understood how the field was 806 00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:52,920 Speaker 7: going to be laid out, where the drills are going 807 00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:54,560 Speaker 7: to take place. It's a little bit unique in that 808 00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,319 Speaker 7: there's one field and two teams, so it's gonna be 809 00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:00,719 Speaker 7: it's gonna be tight out there. But we feel like 810 00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:02,839 Speaker 7: we can get a good practice again. And and so 811 00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:06,560 Speaker 7: just coming to terms with making sure that we understood 812 00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:10,000 Speaker 7: the tempo, understood, you know, who's who's going to be where, 813 00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:12,399 Speaker 7: and and that's a lot of it, right. And then 814 00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:14,799 Speaker 7: like really for Mike and I, because we've known each 815 00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:17,440 Speaker 7: other so long, we don't even we get into it. 816 00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:19,640 Speaker 7: We touched, you know, scratch the surface a little bit, 817 00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:21,520 Speaker 7: but we don't really even need to get into hey, 818 00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:26,240 Speaker 7: you know, kind of all the other stuff that sometimes, 819 00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:30,959 Speaker 7: hopefully sometimes you're seeing around the league, you know, guy Willing, 820 00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:34,439 Speaker 7: that doesn't happen here. And that's part of the reason 821 00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:37,040 Speaker 7: why we decided to do this with Pittsburgh. 822 00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:38,279 Speaker 8: No guarantees. 823 00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:43,680 Speaker 7: But again, our players understand the consequences if they fight. 824 00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:47,440 Speaker 3: It's been a few years since Carolina. Why was this 825 00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:48,960 Speaker 3: the right time. 826 00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:52,560 Speaker 7: To do a joint practice again, Well, if you look 827 00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:54,840 Speaker 7: at where we were, and I think that was nineteen 828 00:41:55,640 --> 00:42:01,480 Speaker 7: and the youth of our roster, both again and rookie wise, 829 00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:06,520 Speaker 7: and then also new players on our team. Overall, it 830 00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:09,120 Speaker 7: gives Brandon and his staff a chance to evaluate our 831 00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:14,120 Speaker 7: guys in another environment like this as opposed to only 832 00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:16,719 Speaker 7: through three preseason games. And then it gives us a 833 00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:20,640 Speaker 7: chance to continue to develop against another team. 834 00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:22,880 Speaker 8: And you guys have watched our practices. 835 00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,720 Speaker 7: It's when you get to about practice eight, practice nine, 836 00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:29,000 Speaker 7: you know, the emotions start to run high, the competitiveness, 837 00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,800 Speaker 7: and guys get tired of one another, and it's time 838 00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:34,040 Speaker 7: as much as we can to get some other work, 839 00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:37,200 Speaker 7: and so they run different schemes. Then we run we 840 00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,359 Speaker 7: run different schemes than them, and so I'm sure for 841 00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:41,480 Speaker 7: them it's part of it is going against some of 842 00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:42,680 Speaker 7: what we do and vice versa. 843 00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:45,799 Speaker 5: Should that today's practice will kind of inform how the 844 00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,400 Speaker 5: playing time in the game goes. And there's specific teams 845 00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:50,799 Speaker 5: things you want to see like that will dictate like 846 00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:52,360 Speaker 5: they will impact that playing time, Like what are you 847 00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:52,880 Speaker 5: looking for? 848 00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:54,560 Speaker 7: Yeah, and I kind of lardy and I kind of 849 00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:55,920 Speaker 7: already have a feel for what I want to do 850 00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:56,359 Speaker 7: in the game. 851 00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:58,040 Speaker 8: It's just more I don't want to really go there. 852 00:42:58,080 --> 00:42:59,719 Speaker 7: It's not fair to the players for me to tell 853 00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:02,719 Speaker 7: them playtime when they're going out there today and it's 854 00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:04,360 Speaker 7: going to be how they competitive. 855 00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:08,400 Speaker 9: So I know you value preseason games for the energy 856 00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:11,320 Speaker 9: in the game environment, but what you can't do is 857 00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:13,600 Speaker 9: put your guys in specific situations in hand, pick it 858 00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:15,040 Speaker 9: what you might be able to do out here. How 859 00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:16,920 Speaker 9: important is that to say we need to work on 860 00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:18,960 Speaker 9: this and see this red zone period, coach, And how 861 00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:19,839 Speaker 9: valuable is that to you? 862 00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:20,440 Speaker 1: Yeah? 863 00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:23,040 Speaker 7: I mean, you know what, what I'm really we're really 864 00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:26,120 Speaker 7: going off of what what Mike laid out there. And 865 00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:29,319 Speaker 7: I think that's good because now listen, I have to 866 00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:31,960 Speaker 7: sign off on it. But other than that, this is 867 00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,719 Speaker 7: a chance to kind of get on their terms a 868 00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:36,800 Speaker 7: little bit and take a little bit of a different 869 00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:39,799 Speaker 7: approach to practice and see how our players and our 870 00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:40,759 Speaker 7: team response to it. 871 00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:41,839 Speaker 8: Coordinators as well. 872 00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:45,160 Speaker 7: So I think getting a little bit uncomfortable is also 873 00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:46,160 Speaker 7: is also good for. 874 00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:49,560 Speaker 4: Us Ty Johnson since he. 875 00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:51,760 Speaker 8: Got back to pact with them small sample. 876 00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:55,040 Speaker 7: You know, I think the medical stat has done a 877 00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:57,600 Speaker 7: good job tie as well getting back and that's all 878 00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:00,640 Speaker 7: we could ask for, you know. So the important now 879 00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:03,680 Speaker 7: is that he gets through, is that he gets through 880 00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:06,840 Speaker 7: practice here. So all right, thank you guys, appreciate it. 881 00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:08,840 Speaker 2: All right, that's head coach Jean McDermot to address the 882 00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:11,480 Speaker 2: media prior to the joint practice which is taking place 883 00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:15,239 Speaker 2: right now. And we have to take a break here, 884 00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:18,880 Speaker 2: but be back with more, including our topic of discussion today, 885 00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:22,960 Speaker 2: which is how does the Matt Mulano injury impact your 886 00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:26,239 Speaker 2: hopes for the Bill's defense this season? Eighth three oh 887 00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:28,040 Speaker 2: five fifty the number to get on board. We're back 888 00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:29,359 Speaker 2: in a flash here on One Bill's Live. 889 00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:45,239 Speaker 3: Stay with us. All right, welcome back to One Bill's Live. 890 00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:49,520 Speaker 2: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you, and kind of sifting 891 00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:53,919 Speaker 2: through the aftermath of what was the announcement that Matt 892 00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:59,640 Speaker 2: Milano is out indefinitely, potentially season ending torn biceps that 893 00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:02,840 Speaker 2: will require a surgical repair. 894 00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:05,800 Speaker 3: Question that we posed to you today. 895 00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:09,680 Speaker 2: Is how does the Matt Mulano injury news impact your 896 00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:12,399 Speaker 2: hopes for the Bills defense this season? Eight h three 897 00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:15,200 Speaker 2: zero five fifty one eight eight eight five point fifty 898 00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:16,280 Speaker 2: two five point fifty. 899 00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:19,160 Speaker 3: We're gonna start with the tweet sheet here, which. 900 00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:21,440 Speaker 2: Is brought to you by Corrigan Moving Systems, the official 901 00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:24,960 Speaker 2: equipment moving company of the Buffalo Bills. Well begin with Connor, 902 00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:29,680 Speaker 2: who says Dodson rose to the occasion last season, and 903 00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:32,400 Speaker 2: I have no reason to believe Williams can't do the same. 904 00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:35,799 Speaker 2: Injuries happen. My hope is that Babbie and McDermott are 905 00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:38,719 Speaker 2: patient with Williams. Last season, as soon as one bad 906 00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:43,760 Speaker 2: series happened, we didn't see him again. Not panicking whatsoever. 907 00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:46,560 Speaker 2: I will tell you that Dorian Williams is a much 908 00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:50,160 Speaker 2: different player than he was as an inexperienced. 909 00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:50,479 Speaker 3: Rookie last year. 910 00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:54,959 Speaker 2: Got some major playing time in the playoffs last year 911 00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:58,840 Speaker 2: in the Pittsburgh game in the Chiefs game, and I 912 00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:01,040 Speaker 2: noticed that he was a much different player at the 913 00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:03,200 Speaker 2: end of his rookie season than he was at the 914 00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:04,399 Speaker 2: beginning when he got some playing. 915 00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:06,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I mean that's what we see, and 916 00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:09,640 Speaker 1: we've been talking about it that he's been so good 917 00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:14,000 Speaker 1: early in this part of camp. But I think it's 918 00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:17,360 Speaker 1: a big ask to think Dorrian Williams is going to 919 00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:20,080 Speaker 1: come in and play like Matt Milano did. Now, he 920 00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:23,080 Speaker 1: may may be good, he's a great athlete, really a 921 00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:27,520 Speaker 1: good athlete, but they did play fifteen games without Matt 922 00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:31,960 Speaker 1: malone last year. I get it. They're used to it, unfortunately, 923 00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:35,000 Speaker 1: and now you've got a guy and Dorian Williams who 924 00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:38,279 Speaker 1: seems one hundred percent more ready to play than he 925 00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:43,520 Speaker 1: was twelve months ago. So it seems less catastrophic because 926 00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:47,080 Speaker 1: we're kind of accustomed to it this point. It's just 927 00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:50,200 Speaker 1: disappointment about not getting not getting to see Matt malonald 928 00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:52,319 Speaker 1: play because he was playing he plays at such a 929 00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:55,600 Speaker 1: high level. But Dorrian Williams is going to use this opportunity, 930 00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:58,200 Speaker 1: He's going to play. Well. We'll see, we'll find out 931 00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:02,960 Speaker 1: what he's good at. But I'll say this last year, 932 00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:08,480 Speaker 1: at the end of the season. You know, Bernard got 933 00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:12,560 Speaker 1: hurt during Williams got hurt, Dodson was hurt. I mean, 934 00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:15,719 Speaker 1: all these guys and you're playing a J. Klein out there, 935 00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:21,840 Speaker 1: and you know that's it ended the season. So it's 936 00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:23,719 Speaker 1: you know, all of us have a little mental scar 937 00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:25,759 Speaker 1: tissue about what the Bill's roster is going to go 938 00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:27,759 Speaker 1: through this season with the injuries and stuff, and you 939 00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:30,000 Speaker 1: hope you can get to the end of the season 940 00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:33,839 Speaker 1: playing at a high level with the guys you thought 941 00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:36,239 Speaker 1: you were going to be playing with. It's you know, 942 00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:38,160 Speaker 1: it's months away. We don't know what's going to happen, 943 00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:40,160 Speaker 1: what twists and turns. It's never going to be easy. 944 00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:42,200 Speaker 1: It never is. But man, just you know, it'd be 945 00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:44,040 Speaker 1: great if you could just have the guys you thought 946 00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:44,719 Speaker 1: you were going to have. 947 00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:49,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the if there is a positive here, 948 00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:54,160 Speaker 2: there is still probably about let me see you do 949 00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:56,759 Speaker 2: the math. It's August fifteenth, he got about three and 950 00:47:56,760 --> 00:48:00,759 Speaker 2: a half weeks before the season opener. There's enough time 951 00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:05,320 Speaker 2: between now and then to get your depth chart readjusted. 952 00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:09,640 Speaker 2: Knowing you're going without Milano for the majority of the season, 953 00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:12,839 Speaker 2: and as Steve said earlier in the show this team 954 00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:16,440 Speaker 2: already has twelve games of regular season experience in two 955 00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:20,160 Speaker 2: playoff games of what playing without Milano is like. And 956 00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:22,839 Speaker 2: you have a second year player in Dorian Williams who 957 00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:26,560 Speaker 2: is every bit the athlete of Matt Mulano and got 958 00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:29,560 Speaker 2: some valuable experience in some important games last year. 959 00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:33,000 Speaker 3: So you have a viable. 960 00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:36,480 Speaker 2: Replacement in Dorian Williams, and now you work on the 961 00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:40,759 Speaker 2: depth behind him and Bernard. That is job one, in 962 00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:43,160 Speaker 2: addition to getting Dorian Williams ready for the starting role 963 00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:46,520 Speaker 2: at the will linebacker position. Got to take a break here. 964 00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:51,080 Speaker 2: When we return, we're going to be joined by Steelers 965 00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:56,280 Speaker 2: radio broadcaster Arthur Motes. He's going to be joining us 966 00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:58,200 Speaker 2: to give us the four to one one on the 967 00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:01,320 Speaker 2: Steelers and what we can expect in preseason game number 968 00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:05,719 Speaker 2: two for a Bills linebacker. Current Steelers radio broadcaster Arthur 969 00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:07,920 Speaker 2: Most joining us next here on One Bill's Live presented 970 00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:08,600 Speaker 2: by Colida Health. 971 00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:40,640 Speaker 11: It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. 972 00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:59,200 Speaker 1: This is One Bill's Live presented by Kaleida Health. 973 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,640 Speaker 2: All Right, hour number two here on a Thursday, Chris Brown, 974 00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:06,280 Speaker 2: Steve Tasker with you as we get set for Bill 975 00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:10,240 Speaker 2: Steelers on Saturday, preseason game number two joint practice taking 976 00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:13,160 Speaker 2: place right now. Joining us on the line to talk 977 00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:16,480 Speaker 2: some Steelers with us former Bills and Steelers linebacker and 978 00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:19,799 Speaker 2: host of the Arthur Motes Experience podcast. 979 00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:22,879 Speaker 3: It's who Else Arthur Motes? What's up man? 980 00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:25,799 Speaker 1: How you doing? Man? Life's good. 981 00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:27,640 Speaker 6: Always good to see both of you guys. 982 00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:29,280 Speaker 3: Have y'all been We're doing okay. 983 00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:32,520 Speaker 2: You know, the big news that came out as far 984 00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:35,239 Speaker 2: as the Bills are concerned is the potentially season ending 985 00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:39,160 Speaker 2: injury to Matt Mulano. Being a former linebacker yourself, I 986 00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:41,319 Speaker 2: want you to try to lend some perspective if you can, 987 00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:43,400 Speaker 2: because I know this has happened at different points in 988 00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:48,040 Speaker 2: your career where maybe the frontline guy goes down and 989 00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:50,879 Speaker 2: then the depth of the position is challenged. How does 990 00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:55,040 Speaker 2: a linebacking corps usually handle something like that when a 991 00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:58,759 Speaker 2: frontline player is going to be out for an indefinite 992 00:50:58,840 --> 00:50:59,680 Speaker 2: period of time. 993 00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:03,759 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean that's a big issue. Right when you're 994 00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:07,480 Speaker 6: talking about Matt Milano. This isn't just a couple of weeks. 995 00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:09,600 Speaker 6: This is potential, like you said, for the duration of 996 00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:12,480 Speaker 6: the season. And when that happens, a couple of things 997 00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:14,920 Speaker 6: go you know through your mind. First it's that initial 998 00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:17,600 Speaker 6: shock of men that was a guy that we were 999 00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:19,359 Speaker 6: going to be depending on, a guy that we had 1000 00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:22,359 Speaker 6: high expectations for. I mean, this is all pro we're 1001 00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:25,480 Speaker 6: talking about, So that's the first shock. The next thing 1002 00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:28,239 Speaker 6: is you start looking in your room and you ask yourselves, 1003 00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:31,160 Speaker 6: do we feel like we have enough talent in here 1004 00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:33,040 Speaker 6: to still go out here and be able to get 1005 00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:35,799 Speaker 6: the job done, or is this a scenario where we 1006 00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:39,480 Speaker 6: need to potentially look around for alternative answers. Now, the 1007 00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:41,399 Speaker 6: one thing that I will say in terms of why 1008 00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:44,600 Speaker 6: we should feel confident and comfortable is we went through 1009 00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:47,239 Speaker 6: this situation last year. We know Matt went down week 1010 00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:50,000 Speaker 6: five I believe it was, and from there we had 1011 00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:52,799 Speaker 6: to see Terrell step up and really, you know, come 1012 00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:55,120 Speaker 6: into his own and show that he could actually be 1013 00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:57,320 Speaker 6: more of a batman than instead of just a Robin. 1014 00:51:57,560 --> 00:51:59,759 Speaker 6: We saw the young guy, Dory and Williams last year 1015 00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:02,120 Speaker 6: all step in and make some plays, and then it 1016 00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:04,440 Speaker 6: got to the point where those guys even got a 1017 00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:06,120 Speaker 6: little bit banged up. So we really got a chance 1018 00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:08,880 Speaker 6: to see the depth also in the position. So I 1019 00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:12,000 Speaker 6: think early on, you trust the guys that were here 1020 00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:14,360 Speaker 6: last year. You trust the guys that did the majority 1021 00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:17,080 Speaker 6: of the starting last year, and you see where that goes. 1022 00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:19,880 Speaker 6: First off, But trust me, in that room, everybody is 1023 00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:21,440 Speaker 6: looking around saying, we're gonna have to pick it up 1024 00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:24,359 Speaker 6: a little bit more now because Batman is no longer 1025 00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:26,600 Speaker 6: going to be available for at least you know, the 1026 00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:27,640 Speaker 6: duration of the season. 1027 00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:30,040 Speaker 1: Give us an idea what you expect coming out of 1028 00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:33,440 Speaker 1: this joint practice this afternoon with the Bills Steelers were 1029 00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:37,200 Speaker 1: gives both these teams lost their preseason opener. I know 1030 00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:40,680 Speaker 1: nobody's going to care in three weeks, but you know, 1031 00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:42,480 Speaker 1: what's the vibe coming out of the Steelers? How are 1032 00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:45,600 Speaker 1: they viewing this Bills team and that kind of thing. 1033 00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:49,080 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, when you think about both Buffalo and 1034 00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:52,440 Speaker 6: Pittsburgh very in very similar spots, being that they faced 1035 00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:55,480 Speaker 6: opponents last week that had already been in the stadium 1036 00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:58,400 Speaker 6: before in terms of the Bears and the Texans, and 1037 00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:01,920 Speaker 6: in both preseason games, make a case that both teams 1038 00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:04,280 Speaker 6: kind of looked a little bit sluggish and at times 1039 00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:08,399 Speaker 6: had the self inflicted wounds pre snap penalties, turnovers, etc. 1040 00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:10,880 Speaker 6: But I think when you're talking about this matchup from 1041 00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:13,520 Speaker 6: a Stiller's perspective, they're looking at getting a chance to 1042 00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:17,240 Speaker 6: finally get potentially the starting quarterback out there, and Russell 1043 00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:19,240 Speaker 6: Wilson now that he's been a little bit more healthy. 1044 00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:22,360 Speaker 6: I think also when you're talking about trying to identify 1045 00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:25,239 Speaker 6: the wide receiver room, George Pickens is a guy that 1046 00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:27,279 Speaker 6: there are a lot of high expectations for. But at 1047 00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:29,680 Speaker 6: the same time, they're still trying to get some clarity 1048 00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:31,800 Speaker 6: on who wide receiver two is and if that is 1049 00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:35,680 Speaker 6: Van Jefferson, Calvin Austen, or if it's coming by a 1050 00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:38,960 Speaker 6: trade with Brandon Ayuku. Anybody that's been in Pittsburgh the 1051 00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:40,880 Speaker 6: past week have been just on the edge of their 1052 00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:43,680 Speaker 6: seats trying to see you when that whole thing is 1053 00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:45,799 Speaker 6: going to come to a conclusion. But I think for 1054 00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:48,120 Speaker 6: Pittsburgh that's got to be their perspective. They need to 1055 00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:49,840 Speaker 6: come out here and have some good work, and I 1056 00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:52,520 Speaker 6: think they're going to get that today with the joint practice, 1057 00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:55,040 Speaker 6: but more importantly getting in the stadium and trying to 1058 00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:57,319 Speaker 6: cut down on some of the self inflicted issues that 1059 00:53:57,400 --> 00:53:59,440 Speaker 6: we saw pop up from their perspective last week. 1060 00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:05,440 Speaker 2: Ye should anything be read into their willingness and you 1061 00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:09,239 Speaker 2: know efforts to acquire a player of Ayuk's caliber. I mean, 1062 00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:12,640 Speaker 2: should that be a reflection on maybe the front office 1063 00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:16,239 Speaker 2: is a little concerned about what sits behind Pickens on 1064 00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:17,840 Speaker 2: the roster at the receiver position. 1065 00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:21,759 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think that that is true, And at the 1066 00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:23,960 Speaker 6: same time, I think that there is a sense of 1067 00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:26,760 Speaker 6: optimism surrounding the receivers that are currently in the building. 1068 00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:29,960 Speaker 6: In terms of Van Jefferson, a proven veteran, Calvin Austen 1069 00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:32,880 Speaker 6: a young guy who's really fast, Roman Wilson a pretty 1070 00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:36,120 Speaker 6: high draft pick. But at the same time, we would 1071 00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:39,320 Speaker 6: all agree there is nothing like proven production at the 1072 00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:42,520 Speaker 6: NFL level. And when you're talking Brandon Ayuk, he has 1073 00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:45,960 Speaker 6: proven an ability to not just be good, but to 1074 00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:48,319 Speaker 6: flash some greatness as well. And I think that that's 1075 00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:51,280 Speaker 6: the thing that when you're talking about from the Steelers' perspective, 1076 00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:53,840 Speaker 6: outside of George Pickins, who is the guy that you 1077 00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:56,799 Speaker 6: looked and you feel confident that, hey, we could turn 1078 00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:59,040 Speaker 6: to this guy and he can consistently win one on ones. 1079 00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:01,600 Speaker 6: I think that's the big reason why Ayuk is so 1080 00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:04,680 Speaker 6: intriguing to them. And like I said, then, from a 1081 00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:07,359 Speaker 6: Steelers perspective, they're all just trying to wait to see 1082 00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:08,560 Speaker 6: how this day plays out. 1083 00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:13,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, and certainly, you know, everybody's wondering what we even 1084 00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:15,680 Speaker 1: got to report yesterday on what Ayuk war to practice, 1085 00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:17,520 Speaker 1: as if it was going to mean something, right, because 1086 00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:21,840 Speaker 1: he's not practicing. What what about? You know, the Roman Wilson, 1087 00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:23,440 Speaker 1: the draft pick that came out this year out of 1088 00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:26,239 Speaker 1: pick is third round draft pick. You think maybe you'd 1089 00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:28,160 Speaker 1: get a contribution out of him. Maybe. How does the 1090 00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:29,920 Speaker 1: rest of the receivers looked behind Pickens. 1091 00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:33,799 Speaker 6: Yeah, so this is the issue with Roman Wilson. He 1092 00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:36,880 Speaker 6: got injured early on in training camp, so they haven't 1093 00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:39,160 Speaker 6: had a chance to see him in a practice setting, 1094 00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:40,799 Speaker 6: nor have they had a chance to see him in 1095 00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:43,400 Speaker 6: stadium in a game just yet, So there's still some 1096 00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:46,359 Speaker 6: question marks around him. Van Jefferson I think has put 1097 00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:50,000 Speaker 6: together a really productive training camp. He looked good against 1098 00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:52,719 Speaker 6: the Texas in the preseason game also. But at the 1099 00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:55,920 Speaker 6: same time, you're just asking, so the production that the 1100 00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:58,840 Speaker 6: Steelers got last year with Deontay Johnson and George Pickens, 1101 00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:00,919 Speaker 6: both of those guys were hovering around one thousand yards. 1102 00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:03,600 Speaker 6: I think George Pickens actually surpassed a thousand yard mark. 1103 00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:08,400 Speaker 6: You have to ask yourself, can Van Jefferson still provide 1104 00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:10,600 Speaker 6: the same type of production that either was coming from 1105 00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:13,279 Speaker 6: George Pickens a year ago or from Deonta. And I 1106 00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:17,360 Speaker 6: think that's the whole uneasiness about the scenario. But you 1107 00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:19,839 Speaker 6: still do see those guys putting their best foot forward, 1108 00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:22,600 Speaker 6: impractices and still making plays. But I think that's the 1109 00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:25,680 Speaker 6: underlying uncertainty and just that uneasy feeling about it. 1110 00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:26,919 Speaker 1: Arthur. 1111 00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:31,320 Speaker 2: Three of the Steelers' first five draft choices were offensive linemen. 1112 00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:33,640 Speaker 2: I mean it really got back to doing what we're 1113 00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:36,160 Speaker 2: used to seeing the Steelers doing, which is investing in 1114 00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:39,280 Speaker 2: the men up front. You know, first round pick Troy Fatanu, 1115 00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:42,399 Speaker 2: second round pick Zach Frasier, you know, a big time 1116 00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:46,279 Speaker 2: center from West Virginia. Do those two guys have a 1117 00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:49,240 Speaker 2: chance to challenge for a starting role in your estimation 1118 00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:53,200 Speaker 2: because there's some established guys that are in front of them. 1119 00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:56,480 Speaker 6: Yeah, that definitely is. I think that for the Steelers' 1120 00:56:56,520 --> 00:56:59,759 Speaker 6: perspective these past two seasons, they've kind of realized that 1121 00:56:59,840 --> 00:57:02,840 Speaker 6: inside the trenches they weren't as productive as they were 1122 00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:05,680 Speaker 6: accustomed to being, and with that they did decide to 1123 00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:07,480 Speaker 6: invest a little bit more and I feel like for 1124 00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:11,520 Speaker 6: Zach Fraser, I think he probably has the most likely 1125 00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:14,600 Speaker 6: ability to get out there soon just because of who's 1126 00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:16,439 Speaker 6: in front of him. In terms of Nate Herbig still 1127 00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:19,760 Speaker 6: a good player, but hasn't proven just yet that he 1128 00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:22,439 Speaker 6: can be, you know, a multi year starter, per se. 1129 00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:25,640 Speaker 6: Whereas at the tackle position, you have Broderick Jones who 1130 00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:28,080 Speaker 6: a year ago ended up taking over midway through the 1131 00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:30,880 Speaker 6: season and was really productive at right tackle, but you 1132 00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:33,000 Speaker 6: drafted him to play left. And you still have a 1133 00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:35,000 Speaker 6: Dad Moore here who's been starting for the past three 1134 00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:37,800 Speaker 6: years at left tackle and it's been good, but you 1135 00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:40,440 Speaker 6: still feel like you want to upgrade that if possible. 1136 00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:43,280 Speaker 6: I just feel like for Troy, those two guys are 1137 00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:45,920 Speaker 6: a little bit more established at their positions, Whereas for 1138 00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:49,600 Speaker 6: Zach Frasier him following up and challenging a Nate Herbig, 1139 00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:53,800 Speaker 6: I think for him it's a little bit more advantageous 1140 00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:55,960 Speaker 6: scenario for him. And I think that that's you know, 1141 00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:58,000 Speaker 6: how it kind of plays all early on. But I 1142 00:57:58,000 --> 00:57:59,720 Speaker 6: think for the still is that was their big thing, 1143 00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:02,919 Speaker 6: get just better players in the trenches. And I think 1144 00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:05,320 Speaker 6: from a Buffalo Bill's perspective, you can see even with 1145 00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:07,840 Speaker 6: the draft pick last year in terms of in terms 1146 00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:10,840 Speaker 6: of Osyrus, you know, that was kind of the thought process. 1147 00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:12,600 Speaker 6: It's like, man, we want to make sure that we're 1148 00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:14,800 Speaker 6: protecting Josh. We want to make sure that we're getting 1149 00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:16,360 Speaker 6: this trenches set up. So if you want to have 1150 00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:19,200 Speaker 6: James Cook and we played through him, you have that ability. 1151 00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:21,080 Speaker 6: But at the same time, if you want to be 1152 00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:22,680 Speaker 6: able to sit back and throw the ball, you can 1153 00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:24,680 Speaker 6: do that as well. And I think that that's kind 1154 00:58:24,680 --> 00:58:27,520 Speaker 6: of the mindset with both of these teams. And I'm 1155 00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:29,600 Speaker 6: not really surprised when you think about coach tom Land 1156 00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:32,760 Speaker 6: Sean McDermott very similar in the sense of how they 1157 00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:35,160 Speaker 6: approach the game, that physicality and things like that. 1158 00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:38,040 Speaker 1: I know that Mike Tomlin said, you know, Russ Wilson's 1159 00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:39,480 Speaker 1: going to be the starter, is not going to be 1160 00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:42,240 Speaker 1: you know, that kind of thing. But how has that gone? 1161 00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:44,600 Speaker 1: I mean, all of us we want to see a 1162 00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:47,000 Speaker 1: competition between justin field. We don't have to see justin 1163 00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:49,240 Speaker 1: get a shot at it. Russ has been a little 1164 00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:50,880 Speaker 1: bit nicked up. I mean, you know, he's a mid 1165 00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:53,280 Speaker 1: thirties that kind of thing. What are your what's your 1166 00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:55,520 Speaker 1: assessment about that situation. How that's going to put what's 1167 00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:57,720 Speaker 1: your gut tell you about the quarterback situation? 1168 00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:01,640 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, for me, my gut says is going 1169 00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:04,880 Speaker 6: to be Russell Wilson week one. And the big reason 1170 00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:08,400 Speaker 6: is when we talk about coach Toimelin, he loves the 1171 00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:11,160 Speaker 6: proven guy. He loves the guy that has shown that 1172 00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:13,400 Speaker 6: they can do it and does it over and over 1173 00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:16,600 Speaker 6: and over. And when you look at Russell Wilson outside 1174 00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:20,960 Speaker 6: of Denver, he still had high end numbers throughout his 1175 00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:23,640 Speaker 6: time as a starting quarterback. And when you're talking about 1176 00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:26,920 Speaker 6: his time in Denver last season, just compare that to 1177 00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:29,520 Speaker 6: the quarterback situation that Steelers have dealt with the past 1178 00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:32,760 Speaker 6: two years, and you will see even more so why 1179 00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:36,080 Speaker 6: coach Toimlin is leaning towards him and feels very confident 1180 00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:36,439 Speaker 6: in him. 1181 00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:37,280 Speaker 1: Now, what I. 1182 00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:40,680 Speaker 6: Will say is this, Justin Fills has done every single 1183 00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:44,040 Speaker 6: thing right while Russ has been on the shelf dealing 1184 00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:46,760 Speaker 6: with the calf injury. Up until this week, Justin Phills 1185 00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:48,920 Speaker 6: had came out there and led that offense and looked 1186 00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:51,360 Speaker 6: good through every training camp practice and even looked good 1187 00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:54,320 Speaker 6: in the preseason opener. But there's still certain things with 1188 00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:57,280 Speaker 6: justin that you want to see more consistency from and 1189 00:59:57,360 --> 00:59:59,680 Speaker 6: I feel like he's in the right direction. This earl's 1190 00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:02,840 Speaker 6: continu pointing the right way. But with Russ, it's just 1191 01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:05,680 Speaker 6: a certain you know, floor that comes with him. And 1192 01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:08,200 Speaker 6: I think in that situation for this team right here 1193 01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:11,360 Speaker 6: in Pittsburgh, you just feel a lot more comfortable going 1194 01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:13,800 Speaker 6: with the higher floor to start this thing out. And 1195 01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:17,600 Speaker 6: if you know, Russ starts to look old or it 1196 01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:19,680 Speaker 6: doesn't play up to the full potential that we think 1197 01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:22,480 Speaker 6: he's capable of, well that's when you turn to Justin 1198 01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:25,040 Speaker 6: Phills and you say, hey, young guy, here's your chance. 1199 01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:27,640 Speaker 6: But I think for the Steelers perspective, it's a lot 1200 01:00:27,720 --> 01:00:31,440 Speaker 6: easier to start Russ in transition to Phills then it 1201 01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:33,640 Speaker 6: would be to start Justin Phills early on and try 1202 01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:35,040 Speaker 6: to transition back to Russ. 1203 01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:39,080 Speaker 2: What can you tell us, Arthur about you know this 1204 01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:42,480 Speaker 2: rookie beanie Bishop, I mean, undrafted kid, play at three 1205 01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:46,080 Speaker 2: different schools, finished at West Virginia. Mike Tomlin doesn't just 1206 01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:48,920 Speaker 2: throw rookies out there on the field unless they're highly 1207 01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:52,400 Speaker 2: tuted draft choices. This guy's undrafted and he's running first 1208 01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:54,960 Speaker 2: team nickel right now, what can you tell us about him? 1209 01:00:56,160 --> 01:00:56,400 Speaker 1: Man? 1210 01:00:56,560 --> 01:01:00,280 Speaker 6: A very smart player, tough as nails also, But when 1211 01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:01,960 Speaker 6: you just look at his tape, Man, he's a guy 1212 01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:04,280 Speaker 6: that is not afraid to tackle, He's not afraid to cover. 1213 01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:07,680 Speaker 6: He played more outside corner at West Virginia, whereas here 1214 01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:09,600 Speaker 6: at the NFL level, we bumped Hi more into that 1215 01:01:09,640 --> 01:01:12,000 Speaker 6: slot role. But I think for him, Man, he's a 1216 01:01:12,040 --> 01:01:14,720 Speaker 6: guy that isn't afraid of the moment. And when you're 1217 01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:17,760 Speaker 6: talking about young players, especially undrafted guys, you never know 1218 01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:20,360 Speaker 6: how they're going to react when they line up across 1219 01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:23,800 Speaker 6: another NFL player. But for Beanie, he's consistently put on 1220 01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:25,880 Speaker 6: tape that the moment is not too big and that 1221 01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:28,680 Speaker 6: he trusts fundamentals. And in all honestly, he reminds me 1222 01:01:28,720 --> 01:01:31,080 Speaker 6: of one of my former Bills teammates, and Nick kel Roby, 1223 01:01:31,120 --> 01:01:34,160 Speaker 6: who also came in young guy, not a lot of 1224 01:01:34,200 --> 01:01:36,600 Speaker 6: hype around him, but was out there early on in 1225 01:01:36,640 --> 01:01:39,040 Speaker 6: that slot making plays. When I look at Beanie, I 1226 01:01:39,040 --> 01:01:40,600 Speaker 6: see a lot of that in him, and I think 1227 01:01:40,640 --> 01:01:43,040 Speaker 6: that that's a big reason why he's been able to 1228 01:01:43,080 --> 01:01:46,120 Speaker 6: kind of win over coach Tomlin early on. And for him, 1229 01:01:46,200 --> 01:01:49,720 Speaker 6: he just has to keep producing every opportunity gets in 1230 01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:52,400 Speaker 6: the stadium, keep putting together good tape, and that's going 1231 01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:55,640 Speaker 6: to help him, especially being an undrafted guy, because we 1232 01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:57,640 Speaker 6: know that the lady you are in the draft, or 1233 01:01:57,680 --> 01:02:00,320 Speaker 6: if you're undrafted, you don't always get that bit of 1234 01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:03,240 Speaker 6: the doubt that the first or second rounder gets. So 1235 01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:05,880 Speaker 6: in that case, Bennie has to continue to put good 1236 01:02:06,080 --> 01:02:08,720 Speaker 6: tape out there, and I think for him there's nothing 1237 01:02:08,760 --> 01:02:10,040 Speaker 6: holding him back in that case. 1238 01:02:10,760 --> 01:02:13,040 Speaker 1: Give us a name or two, maybe one or two 1239 01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:16,360 Speaker 1: young players in the Steels training camp that have been 1240 01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:19,919 Speaker 1: surprising in their development. Maybe Beanie is one of them. 1241 01:02:20,040 --> 01:02:22,160 Speaker 1: Is there been guys who people didn't know about and 1242 01:02:22,240 --> 01:02:24,040 Speaker 1: all of a sudden burst turn of the fields like 1243 01:02:24,040 --> 01:02:25,960 Speaker 1: Beanie has Well. 1244 01:02:25,960 --> 01:02:27,720 Speaker 6: I would say the two guys that have really stood 1245 01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:29,720 Speaker 6: out to me as I go out to the training 1246 01:02:29,720 --> 01:02:32,040 Speaker 6: camp and I watched the team. On offense, it would 1247 01:02:32,080 --> 01:02:35,040 Speaker 6: be Connor Hayward. He's going into his third year more 1248 01:02:35,080 --> 01:02:38,439 Speaker 6: of a h back, tight end move guy, but under 1249 01:02:38,600 --> 01:02:42,160 Speaker 6: Arthur Smith's new system, he's been able to really flourish 1250 01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:45,040 Speaker 6: both running the ball but also as the move guy, 1251 01:02:45,080 --> 01:02:47,360 Speaker 6: catching the ball down the grass and stuff like that. 1252 01:02:47,400 --> 01:02:50,480 Speaker 6: And then on defense, Demarvin Lee out. This is a 1253 01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:52,600 Speaker 6: guy going into his third year, came off of a 1254 01:02:52,640 --> 01:02:56,840 Speaker 6: sophomore slump, but the expectations were hot. The thoughts were, man, 1255 01:02:56,920 --> 01:03:00,000 Speaker 6: this is a guy that's very athletic, could replace something 1256 01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:02,880 Speaker 6: a Cam Hayward type, a step on to it type. 1257 01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:05,479 Speaker 6: But unfortunately that second year he kind of took a seat, 1258 01:03:05,760 --> 01:03:07,920 Speaker 6: took a step back. But I felt like this training 1259 01:03:07,960 --> 01:03:10,400 Speaker 6: camp he's putting together a lot of good days back 1260 01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:12,600 Speaker 6: to back, and then even in the preseason game against 1261 01:03:12,600 --> 01:03:15,400 Speaker 6: the Texans, he really stood out, not just as a 1262 01:03:15,440 --> 01:03:18,320 Speaker 6: productive pass rush and getting a sack, but also filling 1263 01:03:18,360 --> 01:03:20,320 Speaker 6: it up in terms of playing against the run really well. 1264 01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:24,680 Speaker 2: Last one for me, Arthur Cordrell Patterson was an interesting 1265 01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:28,800 Speaker 2: pickup for them in the offseason with this new dynamic kickoff. 1266 01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:31,760 Speaker 2: He might be a perfect fit for something like that. 1267 01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:35,520 Speaker 2: What has been his usage thus far on special teams. 1268 01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:39,720 Speaker 6: Yeah, So Cordell Man is another guy that is very 1269 01:03:39,720 --> 01:03:41,960 Speaker 6: exciting to have here. I mean, we were kind of 1270 01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:45,200 Speaker 6: joking about this special teams unit that the Steels have 1271 01:03:45,240 --> 01:03:48,800 Speaker 6: put together with Miles killer Brew pro bowler, Cordell Patterson 1272 01:03:48,840 --> 01:03:52,600 Speaker 6: pro bowler, and even Tyler Mattecavich former pro bowler, So 1273 01:03:52,920 --> 01:03:55,840 Speaker 6: with that, you feel good about the situation. But with Cordell, 1274 01:03:56,320 --> 01:03:58,800 Speaker 6: it's kind of been the similar situation as Russell Wilson. 1275 01:03:59,160 --> 01:04:01,160 Speaker 6: Up until this week, he had been on the show 1276 01:04:01,320 --> 01:04:03,760 Speaker 6: dealing with a little bit of an injury. So now 1277 01:04:03,880 --> 01:04:06,200 Speaker 6: we're starting to see him get a little bit more implemented, 1278 01:04:06,280 --> 01:04:09,160 Speaker 6: and I think for him, he is going to thrive 1279 01:04:09,200 --> 01:04:13,200 Speaker 6: in this scenario because it's putting an incentive on putting 1280 01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:15,760 Speaker 6: the ball in play on kickoff. We saw what this 1281 01:04:15,760 --> 01:04:18,840 Speaker 6: guy was capable of under the old rules, and that's 1282 01:04:18,880 --> 01:04:21,439 Speaker 6: part of why teams stopped kicking the guys like him. 1283 01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:23,960 Speaker 6: So now you're giving him a chance to not just 1284 01:04:24,760 --> 01:04:26,800 Speaker 6: know that he's going to get returns, but also have 1285 01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:29,720 Speaker 6: it in a setup where you're not dealing with these 1286 01:04:29,720 --> 01:04:32,720 Speaker 6: big collisions anymore either, just by the way of the 1287 01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:35,240 Speaker 6: new setup, which is still taking some getting used to. 1288 01:04:35,800 --> 01:04:38,320 Speaker 6: But I think in that s in that sense for 1289 01:04:38,440 --> 01:04:40,240 Speaker 6: cadell Man, I think he has to be very excited 1290 01:04:40,280 --> 01:04:41,840 Speaker 6: about it, and I think that's a big reason why 1291 01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:43,920 Speaker 6: here in Pittsburgh they're excited to see what he can 1292 01:04:43,920 --> 01:04:44,920 Speaker 6: do once the season starts. 1293 01:04:45,040 --> 01:04:47,120 Speaker 1: What's been the early feedback from guys you've talked to 1294 01:04:47,120 --> 01:04:53,960 Speaker 1: about the new dynamic kickoff. Yeah right, Yeah, they know 1295 01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:54,560 Speaker 1: what to think. 1296 01:04:55,560 --> 01:04:58,360 Speaker 6: When you watch it, you're still I mean watching it 1297 01:04:58,360 --> 01:05:01,760 Speaker 6: on TV. The referees are and even comfortable with this day. Yeah, 1298 01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:03,800 Speaker 6: you see the players, they're looking at it and it's 1299 01:05:03,880 --> 01:05:07,160 Speaker 6: just awkward. And I feel like whenever there is change, 1300 01:05:07,320 --> 01:05:09,480 Speaker 6: you know you're going to go through this phase. I'm 1301 01:05:09,520 --> 01:05:12,240 Speaker 6: just trying to give it time to potentially grow on 1302 01:05:12,400 --> 01:05:15,960 Speaker 6: me because I call myself a football like snob and 1303 01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:18,280 Speaker 6: a purist, and I'm just so accustomed to what it 1304 01:05:18,320 --> 01:05:20,680 Speaker 6: looked like growing up, even back when you were playing 1305 01:05:20,680 --> 01:05:23,640 Speaker 6: out there, Steve, So for me, that's one of the 1306 01:05:23,640 --> 01:05:27,240 Speaker 6: parts where I'm just kind of like, we'll see, hopefully 1307 01:05:27,320 --> 01:05:28,880 Speaker 6: it gets better sooner rather than later. 1308 01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:32,880 Speaker 2: Though, Arthur, appreciate the time, Enjoy the game on Saturday. 1309 01:05:32,920 --> 01:05:34,680 Speaker 2: I'm sure we'll catch up with you down the line here. 1310 01:05:34,800 --> 01:05:35,520 Speaker 3: Enjoy the season. 1311 01:05:36,840 --> 01:05:38,880 Speaker 6: No, without a doubt, man, I appreciate you as always. 1312 01:05:38,920 --> 01:05:39,240 Speaker 3: All Right. 1313 01:05:39,280 --> 01:05:43,040 Speaker 2: That's Arthur Motes, former Bills and Steelers linebacker and host 1314 01:05:43,120 --> 01:05:45,880 Speaker 2: of the Arthur Motes podcast Experience. 1315 01:05:47,720 --> 01:05:48,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's interesting. 1316 01:05:48,520 --> 01:05:50,840 Speaker 2: I wanted to kind of get a feel for some 1317 01:05:50,880 --> 01:05:53,760 Speaker 2: of the young talent on the Steelers' roster and really 1318 01:05:53,800 --> 01:05:56,280 Speaker 2: beinging Bishop has been a tremendous story for them. You know, 1319 01:05:56,320 --> 01:05:58,880 Speaker 2: you go from undrafted to starting nickel right now. I mean, 1320 01:05:58,880 --> 01:06:02,120 Speaker 2: that's that's not easy to do in a in a 1321 01:06:02,760 --> 01:06:05,040 Speaker 2: in an environment where it's all about earning it, and 1322 01:06:05,080 --> 01:06:07,640 Speaker 2: that's how Tomlin runs stuff there. And yeah, he's definitely 1323 01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:11,760 Speaker 2: made a fantastic impression to be ahead, you know of 1324 01:06:12,240 --> 01:06:15,440 Speaker 2: you know a veteran player like a Cameron Sutton for example, 1325 01:06:15,640 --> 01:06:18,200 Speaker 2: you know, guys like that, he's doing really well. 1326 01:06:18,600 --> 01:06:20,480 Speaker 1: We've seen it happen here in Buffalo with you know, 1327 01:06:20,560 --> 01:06:24,520 Speaker 1: Christian Benford to be for one of them and others, 1328 01:06:24,640 --> 01:06:29,600 Speaker 1: and heck Levi Wallace came in and earned that spot 1329 01:06:29,640 --> 01:06:31,760 Speaker 1: like that. It's difficult to do, but I think that 1330 01:06:32,120 --> 01:06:35,600 Speaker 1: we've seen it more often in that position group than 1331 01:06:35,640 --> 01:06:39,919 Speaker 1: any other because well, I've said, you know, because there's 1332 01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:42,520 Speaker 1: athletes everywhere, and if you get an athlete and all 1333 01:06:42,560 --> 01:06:44,440 Speaker 1: of a sudden he gets into the right environment and 1334 01:06:44,440 --> 01:06:47,960 Speaker 1: starts to thrive, he can thrive quickly and can build 1335 01:06:47,960 --> 01:06:50,040 Speaker 1: on what he's learned in the past and and have 1336 01:06:50,160 --> 01:06:53,440 Speaker 1: it stack up really well. For a guy lines up, 1337 01:06:54,440 --> 01:06:56,400 Speaker 1: they take pretty good reps, and all of a sudden, 1338 01:06:56,400 --> 01:06:59,080 Speaker 1: they find themselves starting on Week one of the NFL 1339 01:06:59,160 --> 01:07:01,600 Speaker 1: as a as a guy nobody knew about six six 1340 01:07:01,600 --> 01:07:02,200 Speaker 1: months before. 1341 01:07:02,360 --> 01:07:06,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, he has been able to take advantage in part 1342 01:07:06,400 --> 01:07:09,200 Speaker 2: because some of the Steelers dbs. 1343 01:07:08,800 --> 01:07:09,520 Speaker 3: Are on IR. 1344 01:07:10,760 --> 01:07:13,160 Speaker 2: But hey, someone's got to fill in. He did it, 1345 01:07:13,200 --> 01:07:16,560 Speaker 2: and he's done a pretty good job. So I read 1346 01:07:16,600 --> 01:07:19,600 Speaker 2: a story about him last week, and you know, we 1347 01:07:19,680 --> 01:07:22,720 Speaker 2: hear coach McDermott talk all the time about Bill's DNA. 1348 01:07:23,640 --> 01:07:26,120 Speaker 3: They talk about Beanie Bishop. 1349 01:07:25,840 --> 01:07:31,600 Speaker 2: Like, yeah, he's a fit on a Steelers defense, just 1350 01:07:31,680 --> 01:07:34,440 Speaker 2: like what Steelers defenses are traditionally known for. He plays 1351 01:07:34,440 --> 01:07:37,720 Speaker 2: that way, blue collar mentality, tough, you know, sticks his 1352 01:07:37,760 --> 01:07:41,640 Speaker 2: nose in tough spaces, even though he's not the biggest guy. 1353 01:07:42,360 --> 01:07:44,760 Speaker 2: Didn't hear anything about Peyton Wilson if you remember him 1354 01:07:44,800 --> 01:07:48,240 Speaker 2: in the draft, the linebacker at NC State, I mean, 1355 01:07:48,480 --> 01:07:49,840 Speaker 2: super duper athlete. 1356 01:07:49,840 --> 01:07:51,720 Speaker 3: He killed it at the combine. I think he ran 1357 01:07:51,800 --> 01:07:53,320 Speaker 3: like a four to three eighty. 1358 01:07:53,320 --> 01:07:56,240 Speaker 1: He's a six four guy, and yeah, he's like super. 1359 01:07:56,080 --> 01:07:58,320 Speaker 2: Runs like a deer, huge, but he's buried on the 1360 01:07:58,320 --> 01:08:00,800 Speaker 2: depth jar behind Patrick Queen. They're free agent pickup from 1361 01:08:00,840 --> 01:08:05,560 Speaker 2: Baltimore h and A land And Roberts. So I'm curious 1362 01:08:05,600 --> 01:08:07,880 Speaker 2: to see because he's gonna get run on Saturday. I 1363 01:08:07,880 --> 01:08:11,240 Speaker 2: want to see if the speed he displayed in college. 1364 01:08:11,200 --> 01:08:12,440 Speaker 3: Translates to the NFL. 1365 01:08:12,480 --> 01:08:14,400 Speaker 2: I don't know if there's any reason I think it wouldn't, 1366 01:08:15,240 --> 01:08:16,880 Speaker 2: but I liked him a lot coming out in the draft. 1367 01:08:16,960 --> 01:08:20,439 Speaker 2: He had a bad injury history at shoulder surgeries, knee surgeries, 1368 01:08:20,479 --> 01:08:23,599 Speaker 2: and that's what dropped him to the third round. But 1369 01:08:23,720 --> 01:08:25,280 Speaker 2: you know, I think some people failed him. 1370 01:08:25,400 --> 01:08:28,200 Speaker 1: It's not the physics not catastrophic that Patrick Queen and 1371 01:08:28,320 --> 01:08:30,160 Speaker 1: Landon Roberts are ahead of him. I mean, you think 1372 01:08:30,439 --> 01:08:32,720 Speaker 1: that's where it's be hard to unless one of those 1373 01:08:32,720 --> 01:08:35,400 Speaker 1: guys stumbles or takes it heart to days off hard 1374 01:08:35,439 --> 01:08:38,479 Speaker 1: to unseat them. So he's got to feel the steep. 1375 01:08:38,479 --> 01:08:42,240 Speaker 1: Team's got to feel okay about that right now. I 1376 01:08:42,280 --> 01:08:45,960 Speaker 1: think for them, you said it, some of these guys, 1377 01:08:46,280 --> 01:08:48,800 Speaker 1: they scour these guys injury history and they and they 1378 01:08:49,120 --> 01:08:52,160 Speaker 1: if the guy can stay healthy, they feel good about it. 1379 01:08:52,200 --> 01:08:54,759 Speaker 1: But they're not. They're watching them like a hawk. And 1380 01:08:54,880 --> 01:08:57,679 Speaker 1: you can see that the Bills have you know, they've 1381 01:08:57,680 --> 01:09:00,360 Speaker 1: been hit by that this preseason and the Steeler same 1382 01:09:00,360 --> 01:09:06,000 Speaker 1: way in certain spots. But we'll see it's hard to 1383 01:09:06,120 --> 01:09:09,280 Speaker 1: unseat guys who have done it, particularly a guy like 1384 01:09:09,360 --> 01:09:15,400 Speaker 1: Patrick Queen who comes over from Baltimore. I mean that guy. 1385 01:09:15,439 --> 01:09:20,320 Speaker 1: They've been around it. Like you said, like this, the 1386 01:09:20,360 --> 01:09:25,400 Speaker 1: guy de Marvin Leal, this is coming into his third year. 1387 01:09:25,479 --> 01:09:27,360 Speaker 1: Last year he took a step back. We've talked a 1388 01:09:27,360 --> 01:09:29,479 Speaker 1: ton about how hard it is for guys come in 1389 01:09:29,479 --> 01:09:32,200 Speaker 1: as rookies. They're just they're just trying to tread water. 1390 01:09:32,720 --> 01:09:35,960 Speaker 1: And then the second year they come back and they 1391 01:09:35,960 --> 01:09:38,439 Speaker 1: still they didn't quite get their off season set up right. 1392 01:09:38,479 --> 01:09:40,360 Speaker 1: There is their their brand new and then and they 1393 01:09:40,400 --> 01:09:42,160 Speaker 1: take a step back on the field as a pro 1394 01:09:42,360 --> 01:09:44,479 Speaker 1: because they couldn't get it together in the off season. 1395 01:09:44,560 --> 01:09:48,240 Speaker 1: They're still kind of struggling with their personal life getting 1396 01:09:48,280 --> 01:09:50,760 Speaker 1: it to fit with their pro life. Then finally in 1397 01:09:50,800 --> 01:09:53,599 Speaker 1: their third year, like this Leal, we'll see, let's see 1398 01:09:53,640 --> 01:09:56,400 Speaker 1: if le Leal comes out. You know, like some of 1399 01:09:56,439 --> 01:09:58,120 Speaker 1: the bills we've seen in their third year, all of 1400 01:09:58,120 --> 01:10:00,000 Speaker 1: a sudden, it's like, okay, they got this, now here 1401 01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:04,240 Speaker 1: we go. We'll see. But that's still worth the cusp 1402 01:10:04,280 --> 01:10:06,040 Speaker 1: of some of these third year guys on both the 1403 01:10:06,040 --> 01:10:09,880 Speaker 1: Steelers and the Bills saying, Okay, here we go. Now 1404 01:10:09,880 --> 01:10:11,720 Speaker 1: they're going to play as a pro instead of a 1405 01:10:11,760 --> 01:10:14,000 Speaker 1: college guy trying to make it as a pro. And 1406 01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:16,640 Speaker 1: it's a big It sounds like a subtle difference, but 1407 01:10:16,680 --> 01:10:20,120 Speaker 1: it really is a big difference, and it shows more 1408 01:10:20,160 --> 01:10:24,479 Speaker 1: so in the everyday prep and practice and workouts, and 1409 01:10:24,520 --> 01:10:27,360 Speaker 1: then of course because of that, it shows on the field. 1410 01:10:27,400 --> 01:10:29,599 Speaker 1: On Sundays, there. 1411 01:10:29,640 --> 01:10:34,439 Speaker 2: Was a Steelers transaction. One of their backup defensive backs, 1412 01:10:34,520 --> 01:10:38,120 Speaker 2: grayln Arnold, went to ir today with a calf injury 1413 01:10:38,720 --> 01:10:42,639 Speaker 2: and they signed he Andre Thomas to replace him on 1414 01:10:42,680 --> 01:10:46,320 Speaker 2: the roster. I doubt he's practicing today as he just 1415 01:10:46,360 --> 01:10:50,799 Speaker 2: got there. Whether or not he'll even play on Saturday 1416 01:10:50,840 --> 01:10:55,000 Speaker 2: against the Bills remains to be seen. But the Steelers 1417 01:10:55,040 --> 01:10:57,800 Speaker 2: dealing with their own injuries. You know, people, I think 1418 01:10:57,800 --> 01:11:00,800 Speaker 2: a lot of times Bills fail when they see a 1419 01:11:00,840 --> 01:11:03,280 Speaker 2: serious injury. They're like, oh my gosh, it's always injuries 1420 01:11:03,280 --> 01:11:05,680 Speaker 2: with us. It's it's always injuries with everybody. 1421 01:11:06,120 --> 01:11:08,639 Speaker 3: Football is a one hundred percent injuries four percent. 1422 01:11:09,160 --> 01:11:13,120 Speaker 2: So don't think that just because you've got your ear 1423 01:11:13,200 --> 01:11:14,759 Speaker 2: to the ground on the Bills, because you're a Bills 1424 01:11:14,760 --> 01:11:16,799 Speaker 2: fan that the Bills are the only team dealing with injuries. 1425 01:11:16,880 --> 01:11:17,920 Speaker 3: Everybody's dealing with them. 1426 01:11:17,920 --> 01:11:21,040 Speaker 2: The Steelers have about six guys on IR right now, 1427 01:11:21,600 --> 01:11:26,320 Speaker 2: so it happens everywhere. It's unfortunate, you know what's happened 1428 01:11:26,360 --> 01:11:29,680 Speaker 2: to Milano here. But hopefully, some way, somehow he can 1429 01:11:29,720 --> 01:11:31,799 Speaker 2: get back towards the end of the season and provide 1430 01:11:31,800 --> 01:11:34,080 Speaker 2: this team with what could be a much needed boost 1431 01:11:34,080 --> 01:11:34,880 Speaker 2: at that time of the year. 1432 01:11:34,960 --> 01:11:39,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, and maybe maybe we'll see. 1433 01:11:39,200 --> 01:11:43,760 Speaker 3: Yeah it's a hard maybe, I get it. Yeah, but 1434 01:11:43,800 --> 01:11:45,000 Speaker 3: you let us know what you think. 1435 01:11:45,640 --> 01:11:49,200 Speaker 2: How does the Matt Mulano injury impact your hopes for 1436 01:11:49,280 --> 01:11:52,840 Speaker 2: the Bills defense this season? Eight oh three, five point 1437 01:11:52,840 --> 01:11:56,240 Speaker 2: fifty one, eighty eight, five fifty two, five fifty those. 1438 01:11:56,080 --> 01:11:57,479 Speaker 3: Are the numbers to get on board. We do have 1439 01:11:57,520 --> 01:11:58,400 Speaker 3: open lines for you. 1440 01:11:58,920 --> 01:12:01,559 Speaker 2: We started on the two and we'll continue there for 1441 01:12:01,680 --> 01:12:06,760 Speaker 2: now where Shack says this sucks. Hoping Dorian Williams hits 1442 01:12:06,800 --> 01:12:09,840 Speaker 2: that second year stride. Bills tend to develop their picks, 1443 01:12:09,880 --> 01:12:12,160 Speaker 2: so hopefully he has what it takes. I think he 1444 01:12:12,240 --> 01:12:15,320 Speaker 2: has the requisite physical skill set. I don't even think 1445 01:12:15,320 --> 01:12:18,799 Speaker 2: that's a question. Some might even argue He's even faster 1446 01:12:18,920 --> 01:12:21,280 Speaker 2: on the field than Matt Milano, which is pretty dang fast. 1447 01:12:23,080 --> 01:12:25,880 Speaker 2: I'm not sure his instincts are there yet in terms 1448 01:12:25,880 --> 01:12:27,080 Speaker 2: of Milano's level. 1449 01:12:27,320 --> 01:12:29,559 Speaker 1: But he's gonna make plays. 1450 01:12:30,000 --> 01:12:30,920 Speaker 3: He runs and hits. 1451 01:12:30,960 --> 01:12:33,719 Speaker 2: Man, you're gonna notice Dorian Williams when he's on the field, 1452 01:12:33,960 --> 01:12:34,840 Speaker 2: like it's hard not to. 1453 01:12:36,280 --> 01:12:38,800 Speaker 1: Yes, he is. He's really and he's kind of like 1454 01:12:38,880 --> 01:12:41,080 Speaker 1: particularly in the run game and when they try to 1455 01:12:41,080 --> 01:12:43,519 Speaker 1: get why certainly Chicago had a chance and they did 1456 01:12:43,520 --> 01:12:45,800 Speaker 1: that a little bit against the Bills this last weekend. 1457 01:12:46,800 --> 01:12:49,760 Speaker 1: But Williams can go sideline to sideline and get there 1458 01:12:49,800 --> 01:12:51,439 Speaker 1: at the line of scrimmage and set of five or 1459 01:12:51,479 --> 01:12:53,800 Speaker 1: six yards down the field that he is, he goes 1460 01:12:53,840 --> 01:12:57,360 Speaker 1: and gets it, and I think a little bit of 1461 01:12:57,439 --> 01:12:59,200 Speaker 1: him and the things you see it are a little 1462 01:12:59,200 --> 01:13:01,320 Speaker 1: bit like you did with Kai when they go zone. 1463 01:13:01,439 --> 01:13:04,960 Speaker 1: Kyer's not as comfortable when they go when you drop 1464 01:13:05,920 --> 01:13:08,719 Speaker 1: Dorian into coverage in space and z, he's not quite 1465 01:13:08,720 --> 01:13:11,720 Speaker 1: as comfortable. But man, when somebody's got the ball in 1466 01:13:11,760 --> 01:13:14,240 Speaker 1: their hands and it's his job to tackle him, he's 1467 01:13:14,240 --> 01:13:18,040 Speaker 1: on them and it's fun to watch when it when 1468 01:13:18,040 --> 01:13:22,439 Speaker 1: it goes his way. But hopefully over lost off season. 1469 01:13:22,439 --> 01:13:24,240 Speaker 1: In this training camp, they've talked to him about it 1470 01:13:24,280 --> 01:13:25,600 Speaker 1: that he sees it as well as they do, and 1471 01:13:25,640 --> 01:13:27,679 Speaker 1: they work on it and he gets a different mindset 1472 01:13:27,720 --> 01:13:31,680 Speaker 1: in those positions where he can just play better and 1473 01:13:31,720 --> 01:13:34,479 Speaker 1: be more comfortable doing it. Really, basically is what it means. 1474 01:13:34,720 --> 01:13:39,160 Speaker 1: He's got the physical set, school physical skill set to 1475 01:13:39,240 --> 01:13:43,120 Speaker 1: play and play extremely well. Most of what you're talking 1476 01:13:43,120 --> 01:13:46,439 Speaker 1: about at this level is the guy just feeling comfortable 1477 01:13:46,439 --> 01:13:49,439 Speaker 1: and turning it loose and going. He does that in 1478 01:13:49,479 --> 01:13:52,280 Speaker 1: the run game, not so much in the in the 1479 01:13:52,360 --> 01:13:53,280 Speaker 1: zone passing game. 1480 01:13:53,640 --> 01:13:57,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, we are going to take a break here when 1481 01:13:57,120 --> 01:13:58,759 Speaker 2: we come back, more of your thoughts on the tweet 1482 01:13:58,800 --> 01:14:01,240 Speaker 2: sheet and your phone calls Ato three oh five fifty. 1483 01:14:01,280 --> 01:14:01,760 Speaker 3: How does the. 1484 01:14:01,680 --> 01:14:04,920 Speaker 2: Matt Milano injury news impact your hopes. 1485 01:14:04,600 --> 01:14:06,040 Speaker 3: For the Bills defense this season? 1486 01:14:06,080 --> 01:14:08,280 Speaker 2: Ato three oh five fifty one eight eight eight five 1487 01:14:08,400 --> 01:14:10,880 Speaker 2: fifty two five point fifty your phone calls and tweets. 1488 01:14:10,920 --> 01:14:13,200 Speaker 2: Next here on One Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health, 1489 01:14:13,200 --> 01:14:30,000 Speaker 2: It's Buffalo Bill's RADI All right back here on One 1490 01:14:30,080 --> 01:14:33,000 Speaker 2: Bill's Live, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you on a Thursday. 1491 01:14:33,680 --> 01:14:35,880 Speaker 3: Steve and I after the show will be headed down. 1492 01:14:35,840 --> 01:14:40,080 Speaker 2: To Pittsburgh ourselves and as we begin preparations for Saturday's 1493 01:14:40,080 --> 01:14:43,800 Speaker 2: preseason game. Steve on the television side, which will be 1494 01:14:43,840 --> 01:14:47,160 Speaker 2: airing on WIVB TV, ME on the radio side, which 1495 01:14:47,240 --> 01:14:50,320 Speaker 2: locally here will be heard on the Bill's flagship station, 1496 01:14:50,920 --> 01:14:55,559 Speaker 2: WGR five fifty. So we're kind of going through some 1497 01:14:55,840 --> 01:14:58,240 Speaker 2: comments on the tweet sheet, but we are gonna go 1498 01:14:58,320 --> 01:15:00,720 Speaker 2: check over on the phone lines at A three five 1499 01:15:00,880 --> 01:15:03,719 Speaker 2: fifty one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty 1500 01:15:03,720 --> 01:15:05,200 Speaker 2: where we do have some open lines for you, and 1501 01:15:05,280 --> 01:15:06,920 Speaker 2: we check in with Ken on a sale. 1502 01:15:06,920 --> 01:15:07,960 Speaker 3: What do you got for his Ken? 1503 01:15:08,680 --> 01:15:08,880 Speaker 1: Oh? 1504 01:15:09,000 --> 01:15:13,840 Speaker 12: Yes, uh, let von Miller cook and the Bills will 1505 01:15:13,840 --> 01:15:16,960 Speaker 12: do the rest of the next man will do the rest. 1506 01:15:18,040 --> 01:15:20,080 Speaker 2: Oh, so you're not worried, You're not terribly worried about 1507 01:15:20,120 --> 01:15:20,960 Speaker 2: the Milano injury. 1508 01:15:21,520 --> 01:15:25,280 Speaker 12: Oh hope hopefully, you know, I'm hoping he's back. You know, 1509 01:15:25,720 --> 01:15:28,040 Speaker 12: when he's back, they get you know who, he comes back, 1510 01:15:28,080 --> 01:15:31,920 Speaker 12: and we'll be uh, you know, we'll have still the 1511 01:15:32,360 --> 01:15:35,280 Speaker 12: you know who could get him back and go hope 1512 01:15:35,320 --> 01:15:36,800 Speaker 12: for that playoff push. 1513 01:15:36,920 --> 01:15:39,880 Speaker 2: Okay, fair enough, Ken, thanks for the call, and I 1514 01:15:39,880 --> 01:15:43,240 Speaker 2: think people hopefully have seen enough of Dorian Williams to 1515 01:15:43,320 --> 01:15:47,600 Speaker 2: at least give him an opportunity to quell their concerns. 1516 01:15:48,280 --> 01:15:52,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, well they The good part of it, and the 1517 01:15:52,640 --> 01:15:54,080 Speaker 1: bad part of it too, is the fact that they 1518 01:15:54,080 --> 01:15:56,640 Speaker 1: had to play twelve games last year without Milano at 1519 01:15:56,680 --> 01:15:59,120 Speaker 1: all and they still got the playoffs. One of the 1520 01:15:59,120 --> 01:16:02,120 Speaker 1: playoff game, and then it was more injuries after that 1521 01:16:02,120 --> 01:16:04,519 Speaker 1: that really derailed him in the In the game against 1522 01:16:04,600 --> 01:16:08,519 Speaker 1: Kansas City, they had four starters out, you know, so 1523 01:16:09,640 --> 01:16:12,719 Speaker 1: you know, they were really crippled last year by injuries, 1524 01:16:12,760 --> 01:16:14,760 Speaker 1: and then now you see Malona come back and now 1525 01:16:14,800 --> 01:16:18,400 Speaker 1: he's out again. It's it's pretty frustrating. But this is 1526 01:16:18,400 --> 01:16:20,960 Speaker 1: a roster that should be, particularly at this point of 1527 01:16:21,000 --> 01:16:23,840 Speaker 1: the season, should be able to mend to you know, 1528 01:16:24,160 --> 01:16:28,160 Speaker 1: to smooth over that gap that left by Matt Malona's 1529 01:16:28,200 --> 01:16:32,880 Speaker 1: absence like it did last year. We'll see, it's not 1530 01:16:32,920 --> 01:16:35,599 Speaker 1: gonna be It's not gonna be easier without Matt Milono, 1531 01:16:35,720 --> 01:16:38,960 Speaker 1: that's for sure, but certainly now with a ninety man 1532 01:16:39,160 --> 01:16:42,960 Speaker 1: roster and enough tools in the toolbox, they should be 1533 01:16:43,000 --> 01:16:45,519 Speaker 1: able to smooth it over somewhat easier than they did 1534 01:16:45,560 --> 01:16:48,160 Speaker 1: even last year. In Week five when he had they 1535 01:16:48,160 --> 01:16:49,759 Speaker 1: had to start going without him. Yeah. 1536 01:16:50,520 --> 01:16:50,680 Speaker 7: Uh. 1537 01:16:50,760 --> 01:16:54,559 Speaker 2: Let's check back on the tweetsheet here where we have 1538 01:16:56,720 --> 01:17:00,600 Speaker 2: Eric Next, who on the Milano injuries says he's not 1539 01:17:00,680 --> 01:17:03,639 Speaker 2: a replaceable player, but at least we have more time 1540 01:17:03,680 --> 01:17:05,960 Speaker 2: to prepare for it as opposed to replacing him mid 1541 01:17:06,000 --> 01:17:08,639 Speaker 2: season last year. More than anything, though, I just feel 1542 01:17:08,680 --> 01:17:12,040 Speaker 2: sad for Milano. Dude, eat sleeps and breeze football. It's 1543 01:17:12,040 --> 01:17:13,040 Speaker 2: flat out unfair. 1544 01:17:13,960 --> 01:17:14,360 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1545 01:17:14,520 --> 01:17:16,960 Speaker 3: I mean, it's a stark reminder that. 1546 01:17:16,960 --> 01:17:21,840 Speaker 2: There are no guarantees in pro football, and it does 1547 01:17:22,160 --> 01:17:25,719 Speaker 2: suck for Milano, for the team, for Bills fans. 1548 01:17:26,400 --> 01:17:27,880 Speaker 1: But you are right about this. 1549 01:17:29,080 --> 01:17:32,680 Speaker 2: There is runway here before the regular season to make 1550 01:17:32,720 --> 01:17:36,559 Speaker 2: the required adjustments and to feel good that you have 1551 01:17:36,760 --> 01:17:40,040 Speaker 2: enough time to get Dorian Williams ready for a starting 1552 01:17:40,120 --> 01:17:45,000 Speaker 2: role now as opposed to a third linebacker base defense role. 1553 01:17:45,640 --> 01:17:50,719 Speaker 1: They've got a chance to get used to a new normal, 1554 01:17:51,400 --> 01:17:53,120 Speaker 1: which is what you know a new player would be. 1555 01:17:53,200 --> 01:17:54,920 Speaker 1: You know, they got to get a chance to get 1556 01:17:54,960 --> 01:17:57,400 Speaker 1: ready for Dorian Williams to be the guy they are 1557 01:17:57,520 --> 01:18:00,479 Speaker 1: used to playing with, and that'll make it difference. 1558 01:18:02,200 --> 01:18:07,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think Dorian feels miles ahead of where 1559 01:18:07,920 --> 01:18:08,880 Speaker 2: he was last year. 1560 01:18:08,720 --> 01:18:10,080 Speaker 3: In this system. 1561 01:18:10,960 --> 01:18:12,880 Speaker 2: I don't know about you, but what I saw at 1562 01:18:12,960 --> 01:18:16,200 Speaker 2: training camp from Dorian Williams was a far more confident player. 1563 01:18:18,320 --> 01:18:21,000 Speaker 2: And when he's playing confident and he is more well 1564 01:18:21,080 --> 01:18:25,559 Speaker 2: versed in the system, I think that allows his physical 1565 01:18:25,600 --> 01:18:29,320 Speaker 2: gifts to really shine because now he's playing faster because 1566 01:18:29,360 --> 01:18:31,000 Speaker 2: he's not thinking, he's. 1567 01:18:30,880 --> 01:18:37,120 Speaker 1: Just going Yeah. The problem is you need him to 1568 01:18:37,200 --> 01:18:40,120 Speaker 1: play faster in more and more defenses, and more and 1569 01:18:40,160 --> 01:18:43,360 Speaker 1: more adjustment packages, and more and more complex situations and 1570 01:18:43,400 --> 01:18:46,600 Speaker 1: more and more completely different situations than he has in 1571 01:18:46,640 --> 01:18:49,320 Speaker 1: the past. You know, we'll see, and I'm sure he is. 1572 01:18:49,400 --> 01:18:51,519 Speaker 1: I mean, he doesn't have the kind of training camp 1573 01:18:51,560 --> 01:18:56,440 Speaker 1: he has had so far without playing better in every situation. 1574 01:18:56,760 --> 01:19:00,360 Speaker 1: He has played markedly better this training camp, and that's 1575 01:19:00,400 --> 01:19:02,960 Speaker 1: because he's more comfortable in all these other situations. So 1576 01:19:03,000 --> 01:19:08,360 Speaker 1: we'll see. Certainly, nobody looked great against Chicago last week, 1577 01:19:10,120 --> 01:19:12,120 Speaker 1: but plenty more football to be played, in a lot 1578 01:19:12,160 --> 01:19:13,920 Speaker 1: of lessons to be learned. We'll see if if he 1579 01:19:13,960 --> 01:19:14,559 Speaker 1: can show up. 1580 01:19:15,080 --> 01:19:19,160 Speaker 2: Team AC on the tweets sheet says devastating this team's done. 1581 01:19:19,240 --> 01:19:22,559 Speaker 2: He's Josh Allen of our defense, game wrecker, game changer, 1582 01:19:22,640 --> 01:19:24,920 Speaker 2: and we're done without him. Terrible news. The only thing 1583 01:19:24,920 --> 01:19:28,040 Speaker 2: gets worse is losing Josh. Oh boy, that's come back, 1584 01:19:28,160 --> 01:19:29,960 Speaker 2: come back from the Ledge team at. 1585 01:19:29,800 --> 01:19:32,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, but that was you, like two hours ago. Was 1586 01:19:32,120 --> 01:19:33,680 Speaker 1: not that you were pretty bad? 1587 01:19:34,200 --> 01:19:36,519 Speaker 3: I was I wasn't that bad. 1588 01:19:36,600 --> 01:19:38,639 Speaker 1: Brownie was slapping the desk and he. 1589 01:19:38,640 --> 01:19:42,400 Speaker 3: Was so disappointed, Oh so frustrated. 1590 01:19:42,960 --> 01:19:45,519 Speaker 1: Yeah, I get it, man, And I'll say this too, 1591 01:19:47,479 --> 01:19:49,280 Speaker 1: not not for nothing. I mean, this is a This 1592 01:19:49,320 --> 01:19:51,360 Speaker 1: is one of the smaller aspects of this man. Fans 1593 01:19:51,400 --> 01:19:52,720 Speaker 1: love seeing the guy, but you want to see your 1594 01:19:52,720 --> 01:19:55,200 Speaker 1: guy play for your team. Yeah, you know, the guy's 1595 01:19:55,240 --> 01:19:56,920 Speaker 1: a great player. He's one of the you know, and 1596 01:19:56,920 --> 01:19:59,800 Speaker 1: in this era, he has been a bigger name and 1597 01:19:59,840 --> 01:20:02,320 Speaker 1: a as big a part of the success of this 1598 01:20:02,360 --> 01:20:05,280 Speaker 1: Team's any other name out there, maybe ectid of Josh. 1599 01:20:05,520 --> 01:20:08,479 Speaker 1: I mean, Milano has been in the mix. I mean, 1600 01:20:09,280 --> 01:20:11,760 Speaker 1: think of how excited we were when he's fifth round 1601 01:20:11,840 --> 01:20:14,160 Speaker 1: draft pick Boston College. All of a sudden he's starting 1602 01:20:14,320 --> 01:20:16,719 Speaker 1: and he's like, Wow, he's really good, and then wow 1603 01:20:16,960 --> 01:20:19,719 Speaker 1: he's an All Pro, not a pro bowler and all Pro. 1604 01:20:20,479 --> 01:20:25,040 Speaker 1: It's like, dude, we got a guy, and now we're 1605 01:20:25,120 --> 01:20:26,519 Speaker 1: gonna be two years in a row where we're not 1606 01:20:26,520 --> 01:20:28,679 Speaker 1: even going to see him play Joseph. 1607 01:20:28,720 --> 01:20:30,920 Speaker 2: On the tweet, he says, it's frustrating, but at the 1608 01:20:30,920 --> 01:20:32,679 Speaker 2: same time, never knew what he was going to look 1609 01:20:32,720 --> 01:20:34,439 Speaker 2: like coming off that bad lank injury. 1610 01:20:34,479 --> 01:20:35,920 Speaker 3: We didn't have him most of last year. 1611 01:20:35,960 --> 01:20:37,439 Speaker 2: But now I have much better depth with a lot 1612 01:20:37,479 --> 01:20:41,519 Speaker 2: of starting experience, so I think we will be fine. 1613 01:20:42,240 --> 01:20:46,439 Speaker 2: Beach Bump says, significantly impacts my hopes for the defense. 1614 01:20:46,600 --> 01:20:48,679 Speaker 2: Might be time to think about his replacement in twenty 1615 01:20:48,720 --> 01:20:51,800 Speaker 2: twenty five. He's missing almost two full seasons and he 1616 01:20:51,840 --> 01:20:54,559 Speaker 2: can't stay on the field. The lack of linebackers in 1617 01:20:54,600 --> 01:20:59,040 Speaker 2: the playoffs killed us last year. It's not wrong about that. Yeah, 1618 01:20:59,120 --> 01:21:02,600 Speaker 2: it was detrimental to their ability to just play defense. 1619 01:21:02,240 --> 01:21:05,720 Speaker 1: That's right. I mean they I don't know Sean McDermott 1620 01:21:05,720 --> 01:21:07,320 Speaker 1: never alluded to this, but you got to think the 1621 01:21:07,360 --> 01:21:10,920 Speaker 1: menu of defenses they were happy, you know, willing to run, 1622 01:21:11,080 --> 01:21:13,519 Speaker 1: was a little bit hampered by the fact that anybody with. 1623 01:21:13,400 --> 01:21:15,960 Speaker 2: Some reps well, I mean, I will say this though, Steve, 1624 01:21:16,120 --> 01:21:20,639 Speaker 2: when Milano went out, McDermott employed a dime defense. Bernard's 1625 01:21:20,680 --> 01:21:22,800 Speaker 2: the only linebacker on the field. Taylor Rapp was the 1626 01:21:22,840 --> 01:21:27,080 Speaker 2: third safety and Poyer was used closer to the line 1627 01:21:27,080 --> 01:21:30,360 Speaker 2: of scrimmage. Now I realized the makeup of the roster 1628 01:21:30,400 --> 01:21:33,000 Speaker 2: has changed dramatically here, But part of the reason they 1629 01:21:33,040 --> 01:21:36,960 Speaker 2: played that was because they didn't trust Dorian Williams yet 1630 01:21:37,000 --> 01:21:40,680 Speaker 2: as a rookie to come in and be, for all 1631 01:21:40,680 --> 01:21:45,960 Speaker 2: intents and purposes in Milano's role. From a coverage perspective, especially. 1632 01:21:45,800 --> 01:21:46,920 Speaker 3: I think that's different now. 1633 01:21:47,920 --> 01:21:50,840 Speaker 2: I don't know that they'll necessarily have to resort to 1634 01:21:50,920 --> 01:21:55,200 Speaker 2: that three safety dime package in obvious passing situations because 1635 01:21:55,200 --> 01:21:57,320 Speaker 2: I think Dorian Williams has the athletic skill. 1636 01:21:57,080 --> 01:21:59,480 Speaker 3: Set to play. 1637 01:21:58,560 --> 01:22:01,280 Speaker 2: A coverage role, and I think he's you got enough 1638 01:22:01,280 --> 01:22:03,519 Speaker 2: experience last year and is well versed enough in the 1639 01:22:03,600 --> 01:22:06,360 Speaker 2: system to play a coverage role and stay on the 1640 01:22:06,400 --> 01:22:08,120 Speaker 2: field and be a three down player. 1641 01:22:08,360 --> 01:22:10,479 Speaker 1: Right. And I'll say this too, I mean, you've got 1642 01:22:10,479 --> 01:22:15,000 Speaker 1: some guys like Dion Jones and Nick Morrow are not 1643 01:22:15,720 --> 01:22:18,799 Speaker 1: chopped Liver. They've got some experience, and they they they're 1644 01:22:19,280 --> 01:22:22,280 Speaker 1: they're the aj Klein of this season. But I think 1645 01:22:22,280 --> 01:22:25,120 Speaker 1: they're in a better place in their career. Yes, obviously, 1646 01:22:25,680 --> 01:22:28,400 Speaker 1: so they do have better depth than they did a 1647 01:22:28,479 --> 01:22:30,439 Speaker 1: year ago. But man o, man, it's a short list. 1648 01:22:30,800 --> 01:22:33,200 Speaker 1: I mean, I like the quality of guys they've got. 1649 01:22:35,120 --> 01:22:39,080 Speaker 1: But man o, man, you and I seeing Lao show 1650 01:22:39,120 --> 01:22:43,160 Speaker 1: back out there, Eddie Utafox show, we'll see that gives 1651 01:22:43,160 --> 01:22:45,479 Speaker 1: me some hope. He's exactly the kind of player Milana 1652 01:22:45,560 --> 01:22:49,080 Speaker 1: was when he came out fifth round draft pick. Let's 1653 01:22:49,120 --> 01:22:51,559 Speaker 1: see what you got. Yeah, and they watch him develop, 1654 01:22:51,760 --> 01:22:52,160 Speaker 1: We'll see. 1655 01:22:52,240 --> 01:22:53,880 Speaker 3: He doesn't play the will as much. He plays a 1656 01:22:53,880 --> 01:22:55,960 Speaker 3: little bit more of than Mike wher Packer. But that Yeah, 1657 01:22:56,000 --> 01:22:56,400 Speaker 3: you're right. 1658 01:22:58,200 --> 01:23:00,640 Speaker 2: Jason on the tweets sheet says mass blow to the 1659 01:23:00,640 --> 01:23:03,200 Speaker 2: Bills d missed his playmaking ability and leadership on the 1660 01:23:03,200 --> 01:23:06,200 Speaker 2: field last year. This is devastating to hear, not just 1661 01:23:06,240 --> 01:23:08,839 Speaker 2: for the Bills, but for Matt, who worked his tailoff 1662 01:23:08,920 --> 01:23:10,759 Speaker 2: to be one of the best linebackers in the NFL. 1663 01:23:11,080 --> 01:23:13,840 Speaker 2: I think there's I don't know, you tell me. I 1664 01:23:13,920 --> 01:23:16,760 Speaker 2: just get this sense that there is such an appreciation 1665 01:23:17,040 --> 01:23:21,120 Speaker 2: for what Matt Mulano made of his NFL career. I 1666 01:23:21,200 --> 01:23:23,920 Speaker 2: think when you have guys that are at the back 1667 01:23:24,000 --> 01:23:27,559 Speaker 2: end of the draft that maximize their potential and get 1668 01:23:27,640 --> 01:23:29,960 Speaker 2: to the top of the league at their respective position, 1669 01:23:30,000 --> 01:23:33,200 Speaker 2: which he did in twenty twenty two and was continuing 1670 01:23:33,200 --> 01:23:34,960 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty three before the injury. 1671 01:23:36,200 --> 01:23:38,439 Speaker 1: I think there's there's. 1672 01:23:38,320 --> 01:23:41,840 Speaker 2: Genuine they hurt for the guy, yeah, because of what 1673 01:23:41,960 --> 01:23:45,960 Speaker 2: he made of his career and to see it all 1674 01:23:46,000 --> 01:23:48,320 Speaker 2: go up and smoke with another injury for the second 1675 01:23:48,360 --> 01:23:51,040 Speaker 2: straight season, I think I think they feel for the guy, 1676 01:23:51,640 --> 01:23:52,920 Speaker 2: Bills fans feel for the guy. 1677 01:23:53,120 --> 01:23:58,519 Speaker 1: Plus, I mean, that's a trajectory that turns a guy 1678 01:23:58,600 --> 01:24:02,760 Speaker 1: into an all time great, an all time great, Yeah, 1679 01:24:04,240 --> 01:24:06,160 Speaker 1: coming out as a fifth rounder and all of a sudden, 1680 01:24:06,160 --> 01:24:08,320 Speaker 1: he's an All Pro and he's making plays all over 1681 01:24:08,320 --> 01:24:09,920 Speaker 1: the field, and all of a sudden, it's like, how 1682 01:24:09,920 --> 01:24:12,400 Speaker 1: did this guy? Where was you know? A fifth round 1683 01:24:12,439 --> 01:24:16,000 Speaker 1: draft pick? Are you kidding me? When Milano has been 1684 01:24:16,040 --> 01:24:21,200 Speaker 1: on the field and healthy, that guy's a monster, and 1685 01:24:21,240 --> 01:24:23,599 Speaker 1: he's now he's gone. He's been gone now going on 1686 01:24:23,680 --> 01:24:25,240 Speaker 1: and it's going to be a bulk of two full 1687 01:24:25,280 --> 01:24:29,400 Speaker 1: seasons and that just stinks. It absolutely stinks. 1688 01:24:30,640 --> 01:24:32,960 Speaker 2: Dave on the tweets, he says this season is all 1689 01:24:32,960 --> 01:24:36,639 Speaker 2: on the offense outscoring everyone, but it's still a huge 1690 01:24:36,680 --> 01:24:39,599 Speaker 2: loss and just sucks. Yeah. I mean, Steve was saying it. 1691 01:24:40,320 --> 01:24:43,240 Speaker 2: He said it on the show before. The offense may 1692 01:24:43,280 --> 01:24:45,120 Speaker 2: have to carry this team through the first month of 1693 01:24:45,160 --> 01:24:48,880 Speaker 2: the season. That was before the Milatto injury because of 1694 01:24:48,920 --> 01:24:50,920 Speaker 2: all the change on that side of the ball, which 1695 01:24:51,000 --> 01:24:55,040 Speaker 2: is more far reaching than it is on the offensive side. 1696 01:24:55,760 --> 01:25:00,320 Speaker 2: And I think it's even more accentuated now. You're gonna 1697 01:25:00,360 --> 01:25:03,080 Speaker 2: need this offense to put up points early in this 1698 01:25:03,160 --> 01:25:06,080 Speaker 2: season because the defense is gonna be fined in itself 1699 01:25:06,400 --> 01:25:10,000 Speaker 2: and trying to put all the pieces together and fit seamlessly. 1700 01:25:10,280 --> 01:25:14,439 Speaker 2: Because now you've you've added what amounts to another new 1701 01:25:14,520 --> 01:25:17,880 Speaker 2: starter in your lineup for all intents and purposes, Dorian 1702 01:25:17,880 --> 01:25:20,360 Speaker 2: Williams is gonna be your starter at the linebacker level, 1703 01:25:20,840 --> 01:25:24,160 Speaker 2: alongside to Rel Bernard. You're gonna have two new starters 1704 01:25:24,240 --> 01:25:27,800 Speaker 2: at safety, and you're gonna have potentially a new starter 1705 01:25:27,880 --> 01:25:30,760 Speaker 2: at defensive end, and knowing Von Miller's probably a pass 1706 01:25:30,840 --> 01:25:32,120 Speaker 2: rush specialist. 1707 01:25:31,640 --> 01:25:35,280 Speaker 1: And a potentially new defensive first time play caller, right, 1708 01:25:35,960 --> 01:25:37,000 Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's a lot. 1709 01:25:37,520 --> 01:25:39,840 Speaker 2: They're gonna be growing pains. No matter how much you 1710 01:25:40,000 --> 01:25:43,080 Speaker 2: prepare for the regular season. It's not all gonna be perfect. 1711 01:25:43,360 --> 01:25:46,240 Speaker 1: It's and I get it too. Mcdermot's gonna be standing 1712 01:25:46,320 --> 01:25:47,720 Speaker 1: right there, and if it starts to go bad with 1713 01:25:47,760 --> 01:25:49,920 Speaker 1: the defensive play calling all that, he can just step in, 1714 01:25:50,280 --> 01:25:52,240 Speaker 1: slide over him do it. Yeah, he did it last 1715 01:25:52,320 --> 01:25:55,880 Speaker 1: year and didn't and was masterful at it. But it's 1716 01:25:55,920 --> 01:25:58,920 Speaker 1: something he I'm I think he hasn't said this or 1717 01:25:59,320 --> 01:26:01,920 Speaker 1: but I think he like to set that aside and let. 1718 01:26:02,040 --> 01:26:04,240 Speaker 3: I think in the grands he really I think he 1719 01:26:04,360 --> 01:26:05,440 Speaker 3: really wants. 1720 01:26:06,800 --> 01:26:10,840 Speaker 1: Babbage to be good at it. Yeah, that would be 1721 01:26:10,880 --> 01:26:13,120 Speaker 1: the ideal, even if even if it means Babbage gets 1722 01:26:13,160 --> 01:26:14,840 Speaker 1: a head coaching job because of it, you know what 1723 01:26:14,920 --> 01:26:18,240 Speaker 1: I mean, he really wants that off his plate. We'll 1724 01:26:18,280 --> 01:26:19,439 Speaker 1: see if it happens. 1725 01:26:19,960 --> 01:26:23,880 Speaker 2: Let's squeeze Jim and Rochester in here before the break. Jim, 1726 01:26:23,920 --> 01:26:25,360 Speaker 2: what do you got first? Here on One Bill's Live. 1727 01:26:26,760 --> 01:26:29,000 Speaker 12: Hi, guys, I'm not convinced that season ending. 1728 01:26:29,439 --> 01:26:35,760 Speaker 7: Yeah, wasn't Aliciano uh three or four years ago, right 1729 01:26:35,880 --> 01:26:37,719 Speaker 7: in July, right when they started practice. 1730 01:26:37,720 --> 01:26:38,960 Speaker 12: Didn't he have a tour bicep? 1731 01:26:39,120 --> 01:26:40,360 Speaker 3: Return he to his. 1732 01:26:42,520 --> 01:26:46,120 Speaker 1: Not a bicep? But yeah, I mean you've already you've 1733 01:26:46,160 --> 01:26:50,240 Speaker 1: already got internet doctors coming on saying it's not really catastrophic. 1734 01:26:50,320 --> 01:26:53,080 Speaker 1: He may come back and and maybe he maybe, but 1735 01:26:53,120 --> 01:26:55,040 Speaker 1: it's yeah, it's gonna be three months. 1736 01:26:56,680 --> 01:26:57,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, with. 1737 01:26:58,840 --> 01:26:59,519 Speaker 12: Tour bicept. 1738 01:26:59,600 --> 01:27:01,160 Speaker 3: Also he had a peck. 1739 01:27:03,160 --> 01:27:06,160 Speaker 2: Oh okay, Yeah, those two guys had torn pectoral muscles. 1740 01:27:06,720 --> 01:27:07,519 Speaker 1: Yeah, no problem. 1741 01:27:08,080 --> 01:27:12,040 Speaker 2: They had torn pectoral muscles which required long rehabilitations. Also, 1742 01:27:15,120 --> 01:27:20,280 Speaker 2: biceps is not necessarily season ending. But we're talking December 1743 01:27:20,800 --> 01:27:27,519 Speaker 2: at the earliest. Yeah, so he's missing fifteen games at minimum. 1744 01:27:27,560 --> 01:27:30,160 Speaker 2: So yeah, it's it's the bulk of the season, and 1745 01:27:30,200 --> 01:27:31,679 Speaker 2: it's it's tough one, There's no. 1746 01:27:31,600 --> 01:27:33,120 Speaker 3: Doubt about it. I got to take a break here. 1747 01:27:33,320 --> 01:27:34,639 Speaker 3: Some final thoughts on the tweet sheet. 1748 01:27:34,680 --> 01:27:36,600 Speaker 2: When we return here on One Bill's Live, presented by 1749 01:27:36,640 --> 01:27:53,720 Speaker 2: Colida Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right, back here 1750 01:27:53,760 --> 01:27:56,280 Speaker 2: on one Bill's Live. Some final thoughts on the tweet sheet. 1751 01:27:56,320 --> 01:28:01,519 Speaker 2: As we've been asking you, what does milano injury do 1752 01:28:01,800 --> 01:28:05,000 Speaker 2: for your hopes for the Bills defense this season? Joshua 1753 01:28:05,040 --> 01:28:06,760 Speaker 2: on the tweet he says, it's a big blow. Is 1754 01:28:06,800 --> 01:28:09,840 Speaker 2: Milano's talent and play will be difficult to replace. I 1755 01:28:09,880 --> 01:28:12,320 Speaker 2: remain optimistic, but I would feel better if the Bill's 1756 01:28:12,320 --> 01:28:15,280 Speaker 2: brought in a veteran replacement like Kwan Alexander or Shaq 1757 01:28:15,400 --> 01:28:18,000 Speaker 2: Leonard to help shoulder some of the load along with 1758 01:28:18,080 --> 01:28:22,240 Speaker 2: Dorian Williams. Look, I think this is a team that 1759 01:28:22,520 --> 01:28:25,080 Speaker 2: made the decision at the end of the year last 1760 01:28:25,160 --> 01:28:29,120 Speaker 2: year to go with a youth movement, and I don't 1761 01:28:29,160 --> 01:28:30,840 Speaker 2: know that they're going to deviate from that. And this 1762 01:28:31,040 --> 01:28:34,559 Speaker 2: is this is a valuable veteran that you're losing. But 1763 01:28:36,360 --> 01:28:37,360 Speaker 2: I think they're going youth. 1764 01:28:37,439 --> 01:28:40,240 Speaker 1: There's no question. Milano shakes your confidence in the defense 1765 01:28:40,280 --> 01:28:43,040 Speaker 1: ability to just incorporate all the new faces and make 1766 01:28:43,080 --> 01:28:45,439 Speaker 1: it work. Because Milano was a little bit of a 1767 01:28:45,680 --> 01:28:47,800 Speaker 1: Josh Allen on defense because he was an racer man. 1768 01:28:47,960 --> 01:28:50,280 Speaker 1: Guy was a playmaker, right, so we knew that about him. 1769 01:28:50,320 --> 01:28:54,920 Speaker 1: So that takes that away, or at least Milano away. 1770 01:28:55,400 --> 01:28:57,679 Speaker 1: Maybe Dorian Williams will come in, maybe he and Bernard 1771 01:28:57,680 --> 01:29:00,160 Speaker 1: are gonna click even better or just as well. Well, 1772 01:29:00,200 --> 01:29:02,679 Speaker 1: who knows, but that see, now you're talking hope. Hope 1773 01:29:02,720 --> 01:29:05,320 Speaker 1: is not a plan. No, Hope is not a plan. 1774 01:29:05,960 --> 01:29:09,559 Speaker 1: Milana is a plan. You know that guy's on it. 1775 01:29:09,600 --> 01:29:11,960 Speaker 1: He's an all pro for a reason. So that in 1776 01:29:12,000 --> 01:29:14,559 Speaker 1: and of itself shakes your confidence in the defensive ability. 1777 01:29:14,600 --> 01:29:16,360 Speaker 1: And we have always said on this show, at least 1778 01:29:16,400 --> 01:29:18,760 Speaker 1: I have on this show. You think the offense is 1779 01:29:18,760 --> 01:29:21,600 Speaker 1: gonna have to carry him for a minute. That bolsters 1780 01:29:21,640 --> 01:29:22,560 Speaker 1: that assertion. 1781 01:29:22,760 --> 01:29:23,920 Speaker 3: Right, I think. 1782 01:29:23,960 --> 01:29:27,679 Speaker 2: At the same time, to his point, they are gonna 1783 01:29:27,720 --> 01:29:29,559 Speaker 2: have to add at the position because it's not just 1784 01:29:29,680 --> 01:29:33,240 Speaker 2: Milana who's down indefinitely. You've got Specter who's out for 1785 01:29:33,360 --> 01:29:36,479 Speaker 2: probably a week maybe more with a calf injury, and 1786 01:29:36,600 --> 01:29:39,280 Speaker 2: Nicholas Moro isn't back yet. How far away is he 1787 01:29:39,320 --> 01:29:42,840 Speaker 2: could prompt another move. You're gonna get a roster opening 1788 01:29:42,880 --> 01:29:46,040 Speaker 2: with Milano presumably going to IR designated to return, to 1789 01:29:46,040 --> 01:29:48,360 Speaker 2: give him the hope of returning in December. But you 1790 01:29:48,400 --> 01:29:51,559 Speaker 2: got to add somebody, so right, that's it for us today, 1791 01:29:51,640 --> 01:29:55,439 Speaker 2: Steve and I will be out in Pittsburgh broadcasting remotely. 1792 01:29:55,479 --> 01:30:09,920 Speaker 2: We'll see you tomorrow at one sh