Speaker 1: Beyond the Beauty is a production of I Heart Radio.
Speaker 1: I'm your host Bobby Brown. I was really excited to
Speaker 1: interview Kesha today for this podcast because even though we're
Speaker 1: talking to people in beauty and founders, here is this
Speaker 1: well known talented songwriter singer with these crazy hits, but
Speaker 1: she also has a makeup line that she's really involved with.
Speaker 1: So I was just really interested in what the correlation
Speaker 1: of the two and how she marries the two. And
Speaker 1: I also know her as her pretty out there style
Speaker 1: from glitter to all things rainbows to color, and I
Speaker 1: wanted to just really figure out what she thinks about
Speaker 1: when she's creating this makeup line. Her makeup line called
Speaker 1: Kesha Rose, which is also her name is um it's
Speaker 1: new on the market and I think it's very very cool,
Speaker 1: and so I wanted to hear what went into making it. Hey, Kesha,
Speaker 1: nice to meet you, So nice to meet you. You're
Speaker 1: a legend. Oh my god, that just makes me sound old. No,
Speaker 1: you're okay, Yeah, iconics a little better. Well, your iconic.
Speaker 1: You're a legend, you're famous. So you know, it's it's
Speaker 1: always nice to talk to someone else that you know
Speaker 1: has has made something and is somewhere, and it seems
Speaker 1: like you're going a lot of places these days. Oh girl,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure it out like the rest of us.
Speaker 1: But you know what, you never quite figure it out,
Speaker 1: and that's the good news. And once you have figured
Speaker 1: it out, you just want to do something completely different.
Speaker 1: So it's I think it's part of the creative process.
Speaker 1: I you know, I was talking to somebody. I forget
Speaker 1: who it was, um, maybe myself. But I'm thinking that
Speaker 1: everyone has the capability of being an artist. It's just
Speaker 1: whether or not you decide to apply yourself to the creation,
Speaker 1: because I feel like the hardest step is just trying
Speaker 1: to make the thing that you want to make. Yes,
Speaker 1: I think that certainly everyone has the ability to be creative.
Speaker 1: Two of the things I do not have the ability
Speaker 1: to do that I would love to be able to do,
Speaker 1: and one of them is to be able to sing.
Speaker 1: Because when I sang in fifth grade, I thought I
Speaker 1: was doing a great job, and my music teacher asked
Speaker 1: me to mouth the words, so oh yeah, and you
Speaker 1: know what, when I drink tequila, I sing fine. But anyways,
Speaker 1: so I can't sing, and you know what, I love
Speaker 1: to dance, and I can't dance well I in my opinion,
Speaker 1: it's just my humble opinion. I think everybody I sound
Speaker 1: like else, like um welfare all else. But everybody can
Speaker 1: sing and everybody can dance. You don't have to do
Speaker 1: it well to be able to do it. You just
Speaker 1: got to do it. Okay, Well, if you're really bored
Speaker 1: one day, you can go on YouTube and google me
Speaker 1: dancing with flow Ride on stage the one, one moment
Speaker 1: I had this opportunity. And trust me, short Jewish women
Speaker 1: cannot dance, which is why. Yeah, but but it's okay.
Speaker 1: I enjoyed it. That's all that matters. I think that's
Speaker 1: the most important part of making art, is like whether
Speaker 1: it's dancing or cooking, which I can't cook, like I
Speaker 1: can't boil water, so like, oh you can like an art,
Speaker 1: it's such an art. But the creation of anything, it's
Speaker 1: like to enjoy it is the best thing ever. And
Speaker 1: that's why I've loved making makeup. And I just got
Speaker 1: your product, and I love the packaging and I love
Speaker 1: that I can just tell there's such well intentions behind it.
Speaker 1: So you're making this beauty product, which, as someone else
Speaker 1: here is just like I'm in the baby stages, like
Speaker 1: learning how to also make beauty products. But there's so
Speaker 1: much thought put into it, and I think it's so
Speaker 1: fucking awesome. Thank you. That's my creation and that's my art.
Speaker 1: So I want to talk about your style first of all,
Speaker 1: like how would you describe your beauty style? I feel
Speaker 1: like I like to challenge any said rules that there are.
Speaker 1: I really like to challenge, and I think that makes
Speaker 1: me sometimes it challenging, like person to consume or I
Speaker 1: don't know, so like you either kind of love me
Speaker 1: or hate me, is what I've gathered from the research
Speaker 1: I've done. But I think you're wrong. People love you.
Speaker 1: I never heard anyone not loving you. Well, you're very sweet,
Speaker 1: but I've checked my Instagram comments one time too many.
Speaker 1: But I just think that I like to challenge what
Speaker 1: like beauty is. I like to challenge what the definition
Speaker 1: of beauty is and why it is that way, and
Speaker 1: I think that it really comes back to what we
Speaker 1: learned or up and what we saw. And then I
Speaker 1: also am in this process of trying to be more
Speaker 1: open to like color, like of course, classic black and
Speaker 1: red lips like those are such classic beauty staples. But
Speaker 1: I also love I just as I sound like a
Speaker 1: five year old, But I fucking love rainbows and I
Speaker 1: love color and it makes me really happy. And I
Speaker 1: feel like when I'm walking around, I don't feel like
Speaker 1: a person. I feel like I'm just like blue Tiger.
Speaker 1: That's what I kind of like. I would say identify
Speaker 1: as a blue Tiger. So, well, you're a You're a
Speaker 1: full on creative being and that's what you do. And
Speaker 1: so it's almost like I get it, but do you
Speaker 1: think you got into music first or or beauty first
Speaker 1: when you were a kid. Always went hand in hand.
Speaker 1: It was weird. When I was growing up, I always
Speaker 1: gravitated towards looking at people like t Rex, like Mark
Speaker 1: Folan and Iggy Pop specifically Zicky started era like this
Speaker 1: very gender bending, very sparkly, theatrical and like very cool.
Speaker 1: But it just so happened that they were also men.
Speaker 1: So I love the kind of gender bending. And I
Speaker 1: always loved anything that sparkled, like I'm like a like
Speaker 1: a I forget what kind of fish it is, like
Speaker 1: a barracuda or or raccoon, Like anything that sparkles like
Speaker 1: I can't help it. I'm just attracted to it. So
Speaker 1: and were you the kid that wore it to school
Speaker 1: like in high school? Oh? Yeah, it was it was
Speaker 1: a train wreck. I was not a train wreck. It
Speaker 1: was an exploration and I love to see those pictures.
Speaker 1: We're still exploring. I think life is one. But it
Speaker 1: kind of wently under the hand to me because I
Speaker 1: thought the visual side of things was so cool when
Speaker 1: you would see this man and then it covered in
Speaker 1: glitter in a one leg jumpsuit, and I just thought
Speaker 1: it was the coolest thing ever, especially some of the
Speaker 1: iconic face painting moments, David Bowie moments, like they're just
Speaker 1: like burned into my mind as the coolest thing ever,
Speaker 1: like where he just looks like a creature from space.
Speaker 1: So I got into both at the same time because
Speaker 1: to me, they go hand in hand. It's like the
Speaker 1: internal expression and then the external expression of oneself to
Speaker 1: kind of go with each other. But how did you
Speaker 1: get into music? In the beginning, music was just kind
Speaker 1: of part of the narrative because my mom is a songwriter,
Speaker 1: and she wrote songs for Johnny Cash and Dolly Parton
Speaker 1: sang the song, and Merle Haggard just all these classic
Speaker 1: country icon legend like people that are just you know,
Speaker 1: next level amazing, And so I was just always around music,
Speaker 1: so it kind of was like it was, weirdly just
Speaker 1: part of our lives. Like on Christmas, our family would
Speaker 1: just play music together. It sounds so weird because I
Speaker 1: know that's really different than other people's Christmas experience, but
Speaker 1: that was our way of bonding and like our communication
Speaker 1: style almost was making music together. And then when did
Speaker 1: you put music and makeup together? Like what part of
Speaker 1: your career? Um? I think I've tried my whole life
Speaker 1: to kind of put them together, and some have been
Speaker 1: more successful attempts than others. But I think that's kind
Speaker 1: of part of the fun is that I also learned
Speaker 1: from a really early age like if you're gonna do
Speaker 1: weird ship, you're gonna have opinions. So just get used
Speaker 1: to some people liking it and some people not liking it,
Speaker 1: including myself. Like sometimes I think I look fucking fierce
Speaker 1: and fabulous, and then I see a picture of it
Speaker 1: and I'm like, that is not what I thought it
Speaker 1: looked like. So what what what was your worst makeup
Speaker 1: memory where you're like, did I really do that? Oh?
Speaker 1: There's so many which I don't even think, well, on SNL,
Speaker 1: I decided to the first time I ever played Saturday
Speaker 1: Night Live, I it was like, I very much I
Speaker 1: don't feel like I'm from this planet, so I want
Speaker 1: to look as much like a space creature as possible.
Speaker 1: So I wanted to do all day glow makeup, and
Speaker 1: I believe at the time it was something they've never
Speaker 1: done before, so it was like a bit of a
Speaker 1: challenge to successfully like pull it off. And when I
Speaker 1: look back at that, I'm like, you know what, good
Speaker 1: for you, But it's not exactly what I thought it
Speaker 1: was gonna look like. Sounds so cool. Do you share
Speaker 1: these pictures on any of your socials, all of these
Speaker 1: makeup memories? You know what? I should do some more
Speaker 1: of that, because yeah, I like my TVT Throwback Thursday.
Speaker 1: I totally should. There's also a time where I had
Speaker 1: like a mohawk and blue lipstick on and it was
Speaker 1: just all stuff that like you're not supposed to do,
Speaker 1: and I was like, well, I have to do it,
Speaker 1: And what did you do something on Jimmy Fallon? Did
Speaker 1: you do makeup on Jimmy Fallon? Or you I did?
Speaker 1: I made him put on blue lipsticks, So I like,
Speaker 1: basically bought out the Max Store of this like blue eyeliner,
Speaker 1: and it's kind of the color I feel like reflects
Speaker 1: probably what my aura has always looked like, just like
Speaker 1: my favorite color of like turquoise blue. And so I
Speaker 1: put it on as lipstick for like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: three years, and then I when I went on Jimmy,
Speaker 1: I do get what it was, I think, and I
Speaker 1: made Jim put it on. I'm pretty applied it to
Speaker 1: him or somebody else applied it to him. But good
Speaker 1: for him for being a good sport. Knows that's so cute.
Speaker 1: And talk to me about your makeup artist, because I
Speaker 1: know you have a close relationship with him. Does he
Speaker 1: always do your makeup? And for how long? Oh? God?
Speaker 1: Ideally yes, he always does my makeup because for me,
Speaker 1: like my makeup style is either I'm pretty all or
Speaker 1: nothing kind of gal. So if I'm which is why
Speaker 1: I'm really excited about your makeup. Actually, it's because it
Speaker 1: seems very much like nothing. No, It's like it just
Speaker 1: feels good for your skin, it feels nourishing. It doesn't
Speaker 1: feel like it's going to Like a lot of times
Speaker 1: when I do stage makeup, it's like really really intense
Speaker 1: and thick, and there's a lot of makeup happening, and
Speaker 1: this is makeup that seems really wearable and seems really
Speaker 1: healthy for your skin, which it is. It's all clean,
Speaker 1: it's a clean brand and that was really important to me,
Speaker 1: and um, I wanted it to feel as good as
Speaker 1: it looks. And I, you know, it's funny because I
Speaker 1: was looking through your Instagram and I stopped at this
Speaker 1: picture of you with red lipstick and freckles, and I
Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, how adorable is that picture?
Speaker 1: Do you do that? Sometimes on stage we're not really
Speaker 1: like no makeup and just something, you know what I
Speaker 1: makeup is a little bit part of like the the
Speaker 1: superpower that like, well, before I go on stage, there's
Speaker 1: this whole ritual of putting on, like I do full
Speaker 1: make up and then I usually have some crazy wig
Speaker 1: down to my ass and a cape. So it's kind
Speaker 1: of part of like putting on the putting on the thing.
Speaker 1: It's like going on stage with all this makeup on,
Speaker 1: and I enjoy it because it's part of the extremes
Speaker 1: of my personality. It's like it's it's like I'm either
Speaker 1: at home with this beautiful bomb on my face and
Speaker 1: the Master era or I'm like full face of makeup
Speaker 1: with stars glued to my forehead and glitter everywhere and
Speaker 1: turquoise and lashes, and I haven't really done fully. If
Speaker 1: I'm being totally honest, I've never on like full naked
Speaker 1: face on stage because that sounds like it's so vulnerable. God,
Speaker 1: but you look so freaking pretty thin. I just have
Speaker 1: to say, I love your freckles, so thank you. Well,
Speaker 1: it's kind of like you're saying in fifth grade when
Speaker 1: you were like singing and someone told you to not
Speaker 1: sing and it traumatized you into thinking you can't sing.
Speaker 1: I on my very first album cover, I took all
Speaker 1: the pictures. I thought I looked so cute that all
Speaker 1: my freckles are blazing. And then I got like the
Speaker 1: picture back from I don't know who did it, to
Speaker 1: be honest, but I got the picture back and they
Speaker 1: had blurred out all of my freckles and I was like, oh, okay,
Speaker 1: so that because that was back then, right and back then. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I once hired a model with a gap in her
Speaker 1: teeth and they filled it in. I was like, why,
Speaker 1: that was like made her so interesting? So they did
Speaker 1: the same thing with freckles. Yeah, I think I kind
Speaker 1: of like have grown to now it's like a badge
Speaker 1: of honor my freckles, and maybe one day I'll be
Speaker 1: able to go out fully naked faced. But it sounds
Speaker 1: a little bit scary. But my makeup artist, what's his name,
Speaker 1: Vittorio Toreo Missekia, and I have to say, he's like
Speaker 1: one of my closest friends and has been with me
Speaker 1: for like years and years, and we've grown so much
Speaker 1: together as people and just in the beauty department. It's
Speaker 1: so much fun because we take risks and it's exciting
Speaker 1: and it just feels like it's a really safe place.
Speaker 1: And I trust him with my face, like he knows
Speaker 1: my face like the back of his hand, and so
Speaker 1: I could fall asleep or I could be crying hysterically,
Speaker 1: and I just know that he's going to make sure
Speaker 1: that the outside looks okay, even if the inside is struggling,
Speaker 1: like he makes sure the outside looks great. And I
Speaker 1: just love having that trust with somebody. I feel like
Speaker 1: it's really rare. So is the process where you come
Speaker 1: up with the ideas and you explain what you're thinking
Speaker 1: and he translates them or do you do it together.
Speaker 1: It's really collaborative, like they'll be some days where like
Speaker 1: yesterday he was like, how do you want to look?
Speaker 1: And I was like, I want to look like the
Speaker 1: ocean on a beautiful day, Like I want to be
Speaker 1: a sparkle ocean lady. And he's got it and so
Speaker 1: he'll interpret that into a way that makes sense on
Speaker 1: my face. And then we kind of tweak it together
Speaker 1: and we take risks together, like it's kind of fun,
Speaker 1: like it's like, well, wait, should we like tie tye
Speaker 1: this wig? And I'm like, a slutely, we should. So
Speaker 1: it's really like it's really nice to have like um yeah, totally,
Speaker 1: that's just like ready to get weird. But then also
Speaker 1: can stop you from yourself and be like okay, it's done,
Speaker 1: Like you're done. It's good. And how involved is he
Speaker 1: and your brand? He when in the first round I
Speaker 1: ran everything by him because I wanted to make sure
Speaker 1: it's something he would use on my face, anything that
Speaker 1: I ever put out. I want to make sure I
Speaker 1: stand behind I will wear it. I'll wear it on stage,
Speaker 1: I'd wear it off stage. I want to put it
Speaker 1: on my face. It's not tested on animals. It's clean
Speaker 1: like your brand, which I so appreciate. Like when brands
Speaker 1: are clean and not test on animals, it's like that's
Speaker 1: a deal breaker for me. So just knowing, like the
Speaker 1: integrity behind the brand is there and then you can
Speaker 1: just have fun with the product after you check, like
Speaker 1: make sure the integrity is there, and then you just
Speaker 1: you know, do whatever the funk you want and that's
Speaker 1: the fun part. So he did. I did make sure
Speaker 1: with him, like everything I did he would use on
Speaker 1: my face. But I did do the designing, from the
Speaker 1: packaging to every single little color. I was such a
Speaker 1: pain in the ass about it, which I'm kind of
Speaker 1: curious to you as like a creator of iconic makeup
Speaker 1: for like years now, how involved are you in it?
Speaker 1: Like are you super anal about everything? Because I'm like
Speaker 1: I am I am um. Some people would call me difficult.
Speaker 1: I tend to call myself brilliant. Okay, there's a fine
Speaker 1: line between difficult and brilliant. It depends who is actually
Speaker 1: standing in front of you. And the people that get
Speaker 1: me would say I was brilliant. The people that didn't
Speaker 1: get me would say I was difficult. I wouldn't let
Speaker 1: them do this. I wouldn't let I'm like, okay, I
Speaker 1: wouldn't let you do it because you suck at what
Speaker 1: you do. But that's a whole another, a whole, another podcast. Well,
Speaker 1: we understand me. You would have to be a pain
Speaker 1: in the ass sometimes what you want. Yeah, well, you know,
Speaker 1: I also have a very you know, strong vision of
Speaker 1: what I want and my you know, the the hard
Speaker 1: part is getting people your team around you that shares
Speaker 1: your vision, understands it and is excited about it and
Speaker 1: so ready for your pain and the assess because they
Speaker 1: trust that the thing that will end up being will
Speaker 1: be worth it all. So why did you want to
Speaker 1: start a makeup brand? I think because my name has
Speaker 1: been so synonymous with like outrageous makeup, like you know,
Speaker 1: like I've said before, both looks that I think are
Speaker 1: just like so much fun and I'm so happy I
Speaker 1: did and some that I'm kind of like, whoa, it
Speaker 1: wasn't the best, but I was I was having fun,
Speaker 1: so you know whatever, um, and I just I think
Speaker 1: it's such a fun way to express how you feel
Speaker 1: on the inside and accentuate what you feel like makes
Speaker 1: you feel confident and what makes you feel beautiful. I'm
Speaker 1: really into not necessarily like, not perfection for me is
Speaker 1: not what I'm after. I'm after people just accentuating what
Speaker 1: makes them feel beautiful and what they want to accentuate. So,
Speaker 1: if you want to draw on your forehead with my eyeliner, like,
Speaker 1: I'm so here for that. But I also you can
Speaker 1: use it as a classic liquid liner. And I just like,
Speaker 1: I just want people to play. I think having fun
Speaker 1: with life and makeup and everything, like it shouldn't all
Speaker 1: be so serious. I think it's really important to have fun.
Speaker 1: I think it's important to dance even if you can't dance.
Speaker 1: I think it's important to saying even if you can't sing,
Speaker 1: because it's like those are the things that keep you
Speaker 1: young at heart. And so with my makeup, I wanted
Speaker 1: it to be really like joy inspiring and like fun
Speaker 1: and that feeling that I get when I'm about to
Speaker 1: do something kind of crazy, like glue a star on
Speaker 1: my forehead, the feeling of like should I do this?
Speaker 1: There's this too crazy? Like I want other people to
Speaker 1: feel that feeling of like should I wear this crazy
Speaker 1: green sparkly eyeshadow? Is it too crazy? And just try it?
Speaker 1: And if you don't like it. You know, you live
Speaker 1: and you learn. Yeah, well, your packaging is really beautiful
Speaker 1: and it looks very vintage. So where'd you get the
Speaker 1: inspiration for that? Thank you so much for saying that.
Speaker 1: I'm like obsessed with packaging. Honestly, it's a mashup of
Speaker 1: there's gonna be a really weird reference just warning you. Um,
Speaker 1: I figured ahead. It's slightly inspired by Stanley Kubrick and
Speaker 1: like the Shining the floor, the carpeting of the floor
Speaker 1: of the movie The Shining, the Little Boy is writing
Speaker 1: his tricycle on that was inspiring to the inside of
Speaker 1: the fact, like the outside and the inside of the packaging.
Speaker 1: There's a red velvet and a and a brown like
Speaker 1: a brown orange almost petrified wood feeling, and I wanted
Speaker 1: it to feel really vintage. And the actual physical packaging,
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm very much a child of the moon,
Speaker 1: and I wanted it to feel ethereal as it could
Speaker 1: physically feel. I wanted to feel so with you, really
Speaker 1: and so special. I wanted to feel something you pulled
Speaker 1: out of your bag. Your friend would be like, what
Speaker 1: is that? That is so cool? I want to touch it.
Speaker 1: And when you are writing music, and thinking about, you know,
Speaker 1: a new album or working on an album. How much
Speaker 1: of the makeup inspiration do you kind of see together? Well,
Speaker 1: I'm doing this now, and I could do this palette
Speaker 1: because it reminds me of this. Is that very much
Speaker 1: part of it? Oh? Absolutely? I think much like albums
Speaker 1: are snapshots of how you're feeling in a particular time,
Speaker 1: I think that the makeup packaging, the packaging and the
Speaker 1: makeup inside is a snapshot of where I'm at in
Speaker 1: my life and what my mood is and or what
Speaker 1: I want my mood to be. Like, I made the
Speaker 1: palette really brightly colored, and there are parts that are shining,
Speaker 1: their parts that are velvet. There's a tassel. It's like
Speaker 1: very extra because I feel like I'm a little bit extra.
Speaker 1: I don't know he gathered that, but I wanted to
Speaker 1: just feel like extra different and extra special and just
Speaker 1: something I haven't ever seen before. And I think that
Speaker 1: the next round will look a little bit different and
Speaker 1: it will be different, but at the heart of it,
Speaker 1: it's going to be myself, which is always going to
Speaker 1: be probably just a little bit weird. So and you've
Speaker 1: been doing makeup on yourself on your YouTube channel. Is
Speaker 1: that true? Yes, I'm not like great at doing my
Speaker 1: own makeup, so I have Victorio, my makeup artist. I
Speaker 1: haven't kind of walking me through and teaching me how
Speaker 1: to do makeup because through quarantine, I've been trying to,
Speaker 1: you know, like the rest of us, figure out what
Speaker 1: this new lifestyle means. And with your job as an artist,
Speaker 1: it's it's you know, it's very different. I'm used to
Speaker 1: being on the road. I was supposed to be on
Speaker 1: Toril year and this here's obviously not gone the way
Speaker 1: we all thought it was going to go. So just
Speaker 1: trying to figure out how to do things for myself
Speaker 1: that I've never had to do before, like like a
Speaker 1: full beat for a music video and then film the
Speaker 1: music video, and like the music video and at the
Speaker 1: music video, all these things I'm trying to learn how
Speaker 1: to do on my own, which is it's been an
Speaker 1: interesting process. So now your this creator, are you also
Speaker 1: getting involved in the business. Is that something you love
Speaker 1: learning or are you happy for other people to deal
Speaker 1: with that. I'm really interested in learning how to apply
Speaker 1: the product to my own face, like I always wanted.
Speaker 1: I always only want to put out things that I
Speaker 1: would stand behind. And wear and pretty much since I
Speaker 1: put out my palate, it's a lot of what I wear,
Speaker 1: Like I wear it so much. It's not the only
Speaker 1: thing I wear, but I do wear it a lot,
Speaker 1: so I can really stand behind it. But I the
Speaker 1: business side of things and like the promotional side of things,
Speaker 1: like I just am not as drawn to. But I
Speaker 1: do need to get better at that side of things
Speaker 1: because I do want to keep my makeup affordable and
Speaker 1: also very special. So to do that, you have to
Speaker 1: be more involved, which I'm realizing now because I just
Speaker 1: put out my first my first round of my first line,
Speaker 1: and as I'm doing it, I'm realizing you don't just
Speaker 1: get to create it and then like like you don't
Speaker 1: just get to birth the baby. Then you got to
Speaker 1: take care of the baby. You've got to feed the
Speaker 1: baby exactly exactly. So yeah, I will you have my
Speaker 1: get you my cell number if you have any questions.
Speaker 1: I I learned honestly. I I never went to business school,
Speaker 1: and I learned most things about business and cosmetics actually
Speaker 1: having a job and working and learning from the people
Speaker 1: around me. But I also didn't have like this giant
Speaker 1: singing career, you know, I had nothing else except a family.
Speaker 1: You know, kids in a family. So, just because this
Speaker 1: is a beauty podcast, I ask everyone and I know
Speaker 1: the answer, but I'm going to ask you anyways, what
Speaker 1: does beauty mean to you? I'm so curious what you
Speaker 1: think my answer is going to be, but I'll answer
Speaker 1: it first, really curious what you think it's going to be.
Speaker 1: Beauty to me? Is we think about that? Such cheesy answer,
Speaker 1: but it really is how I feel beauty is happiness
Speaker 1: and confidence and acceptance, and I I really just want
Speaker 1: to encourage amplifying that with my beauty line and not
Speaker 1: changing or perfecting or focusing on what makes one insecure.
Speaker 1: I want to make people feel more beautiful because they
Speaker 1: feel confident and radiant in what makes them unique. That's
Speaker 1: a wonderful answer, better than I was gonna say. I
Speaker 1: was gonna say rainbows and glitter. So no, that's a
Speaker 1: really good, really good What is your favorite cocktail? Oh?
Speaker 1: My favorite cocktail? Well, I know the whole world thinks
Speaker 1: I brush my teeth with Jack Daniels probably still to
Speaker 1: this day, but um, I will say that my favorite
Speaker 1: cocktail is I like a good martini vodka, Urgin vodka.
Speaker 1: Oh really? Oh no, I'm a vodka drinker. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: am a vodka drinker. Yes I am. So what's the
Speaker 1: craziest thing you've ever done? Just for fun, not for work,
Speaker 1: just for fun, just for fun. Okay, I have a
Speaker 1: couple of things. I think I'm an adrenaline junkie. So
Speaker 1: just for fun my main thing I do just for fun.
Speaker 1: That's purely just like feed my soul. Is I love
Speaker 1: to swim with whales. M hm. So I go to
Speaker 1: like in the middle of nowhere. It takes like three
Speaker 1: days to get there, and I swim for a week
Speaker 1: with whales, and um, it's the most beautiful thing in
Speaker 1: the entire world and also terrifying and exciting and fun
Speaker 1: and cold and uncomfortable, and it's my favorite thing in
Speaker 1: the whole world. Is that why you named the palette? Wt? Wait?
Speaker 1: What wtf W? So it's fine, it's fine the whales
Speaker 1: or it's fun the world, whichever one you preferred. And um,
Speaker 1: I also want to talk about your podcast, yes, so
Speaker 1: tell me about the podcast. Now, we are both, you know,
Speaker 1: I heart harders. We are, ye, how well? So I
Speaker 1: just began my podcast and I don't know how you're
Speaker 1: finding it, as I'm a. I'm new to it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's my second season. These guys are the best. Heart
Speaker 1: is the best. Oh, they're great. I'm speaking more just
Speaker 1: like when you do something you've never done before. For me,
Speaker 1: I was a little bit nervous at first, and like
Speaker 1: technology is not necessarily my strong suit. Um, so I
Speaker 1: had like the the cameras were falling all over the
Speaker 1: place and that was going about so I had to
Speaker 1: work out some kinks. But I am loving talking to
Speaker 1: people because I have a podcast. It's called Kesha and
Speaker 1: the Creepies, and it's really just talking and shooting the
Speaker 1: ship with anybody who has ever experienced anything kind of
Speaker 1: unexplainable or people that are skeptics of the unexplainable. It's
Speaker 1: really kind of a segue for me to get to
Speaker 1: people's spirituality and what you think is out there and
Speaker 1: what you can't explain. Because to me, that's what makes
Speaker 1: life really magical is the stuff that I can't really explain.
Speaker 1: So I love just talking to people about the weirdest
Speaker 1: and creepiest ship they've ever seen. Oh, I cannot wait
Speaker 1: to listen to it sounds super interesting. But I also
Speaker 1: last question, I want to ask you, what's next for
Speaker 1: the makeup Lind, like, what do you you know? Are
Speaker 1: you have any ideas or new products or new launches
Speaker 1: that you're thinking about? Yes, I am. I'm currently being
Speaker 1: as you would call it, brilliant and or difficult and
Speaker 1: or a clean and snuff Yes. About the next round
Speaker 1: of product I'm putting out I have. I don't really
Speaker 1: know what I'm allowed to talk about, so I'll just
Speaker 1: tell you, um, because you're fucking Bobby Brown, but I
Speaker 1: love making clean makeup, as we talked about, and cruelty free.
Speaker 1: And then on top of it, I just really want
Speaker 1: to make like the highlighter scent from Hell or Heaven
Speaker 1: or whatever, just something that is so luxurious and that
Speaker 1: you just want to wear all over your entire body
Speaker 1: and face. So I'm currently working on making that, and
Speaker 1: I also am working on making some more insane glitter
Speaker 1: products because I feel like when people think of me,
Speaker 1: they think of glitter and pumpose I like you are
Speaker 1: saying earlier, So I've already covered the rainbow categories, so
Speaker 1: now I'm really pushing myself to the ends of the
Speaker 1: earth and what glitter can mean and get that to
Speaker 1: the masses. Very cool, very cool, I'm really excited to
Speaker 1: see what's next. I think you're so interesting and unique
Speaker 1: and wonderful, and you know, one of these days, I'm
Speaker 1: going to do your makeup if you're if your makeup
Speaker 1: arts will allow me and just leave the freckles and
Speaker 1: see where I could put the glitter and the red
Speaker 1: or something. But I'm so open to all of it,
Speaker 1: and like he the beautiful part about our relationship is
Speaker 1: that he would be like sitting and watching and like
Speaker 1: geeking out and smiling and be so excited to watch
Speaker 1: you work because you're the same. Because then I then
Speaker 1: I could watch him do his thing. I find that interesting.
Speaker 1: But you know what, in life, you just never know,
Speaker 1: and you just got to be open because you never
Speaker 1: know what's gonna, you know, come your way. And I'm
Speaker 1: looking I am looking forward to seeing what you do next.
Speaker 1: So just also, where could people they know where to
Speaker 1: find you? You've got, you know, billions of viewers and listeners,
Speaker 1: But tell people that are listening that maybe don't know
Speaker 1: where the best place to find you. Okay, so my
Speaker 1: Instagram is not my name. I've decided to make it
Speaker 1: really complicated for everyone. It's I is who I is,
Speaker 1: which is a play on my song we Are Who
Speaker 1: We Are? And when I meet people there like is
Speaker 1: who is? And I'm like, oh no, no, I is
Speaker 1: who I is. If you go there, it'll send you
Speaker 1: to kesher Rose Beauty and that is where you can
Speaker 1: get all of my makeup and play with it and
Speaker 1: have fun and explore and feel magical. Oh it's amazing,
Speaker 1: good luck with everything. It was a pleasure. I'm making
Speaker 1: my I'm making my walking playlist only to your music.
Speaker 1: So um, I might maybe it'll get me dancing, but
Speaker 1: you girl, you gotta start dancing and singing even if
Speaker 1: nobody's watching. It's so good. Yeah, oh I do when
Speaker 1: no one when no one's watching, I absolutely do. But anyways,
Speaker 1: it's a pleasure to meet you. Thank you, thank you,
Speaker 1: thank you, big kiss, big hog. You too much. All right,
Speaker 1: by bye. Take care. For more podcasts from I Heart Radio,
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