1 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:05,160 Speaker 1: Beyond the Beauty is a production of I Heart Radio. 2 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 1: I'm your host Bobby Brown. I was really excited to 3 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 1: interview Kesha today for this podcast because even though we're 4 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 1: talking to people in beauty and founders, here is this 5 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 1: well known talented songwriter singer with these crazy hits, but 6 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 1: she also has a makeup line that she's really involved with. 7 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 1: So I was just really interested in what the correlation 8 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:40,559 Speaker 1: of the two and how she marries the two. And 9 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 1: I also know her as her pretty out there style 10 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 1: from glitter to all things rainbows to color, and I 11 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 1: wanted to just really figure out what she thinks about 12 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 1: when she's creating this makeup line. Her makeup line called 13 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 1: Kesha Rose, which is also her name is um it's 14 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 1: new on the market and I think it's very very cool, 15 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:09,839 Speaker 1: and so I wanted to hear what went into making it. Hey, Kesha, 16 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 1: nice to meet you, So nice to meet you. You're 17 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 1: a legend. Oh my god, that just makes me sound old. No, 18 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: you're okay, Yeah, iconics a little better. Well, your iconic. 19 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 1: You're a legend, you're famous. So you know, it's it's 20 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:28,040 Speaker 1: always nice to talk to someone else that you know 21 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 1: has has made something and is somewhere, and it seems 22 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 1: like you're going a lot of places these days. Oh girl, 23 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure it out like the rest of us. 24 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 1: But you know what, you never quite figure it out, 25 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 1: and that's the good news. And once you have figured 26 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 1: it out, you just want to do something completely different. 27 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 1: So it's I think it's part of the creative process. 28 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 1: I you know, I was talking to somebody. I forget 29 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: who it was, um, maybe myself. But I'm thinking that 30 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 1: everyone has the capability of being an artist. It's just 31 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:10,079 Speaker 1: whether or not you decide to apply yourself to the creation, 32 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 1: because I feel like the hardest step is just trying 33 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 1: to make the thing that you want to make. Yes, 34 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:19,920 Speaker 1: I think that certainly everyone has the ability to be creative. 35 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 1: Two of the things I do not have the ability 36 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 1: to do that I would love to be able to do, 37 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 1: and one of them is to be able to sing. 38 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:31,800 Speaker 1: Because when I sang in fifth grade, I thought I 39 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:34,640 Speaker 1: was doing a great job, and my music teacher asked 40 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 1: me to mouth the words, so oh yeah, and you 41 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 1: know what, when I drink tequila, I sing fine. But anyways, 42 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 1: so I can't sing, and you know what, I love 43 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 1: to dance, and I can't dance well I in my opinion, 44 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 1: it's just my humble opinion. I think everybody I sound 45 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:55,799 Speaker 1: like else, like um welfare all else. But everybody can 46 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 1: sing and everybody can dance. You don't have to do 47 00:02:58,360 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: it well to be able to do it. You just 48 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:02,519 Speaker 1: got to do it. Okay, Well, if you're really bored 49 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 1: one day, you can go on YouTube and google me 50 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 1: dancing with flow Ride on stage the one, one moment 51 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 1: I had this opportunity. And trust me, short Jewish women 52 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 1: cannot dance, which is why. Yeah, but but it's okay. 53 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:20,359 Speaker 1: I enjoyed it. That's all that matters. I think that's 54 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 1: the most important part of making art, is like whether 55 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 1: it's dancing or cooking, which I can't cook, like I 56 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 1: can't boil water, so like, oh you can like an art, 57 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 1: it's such an art. But the creation of anything, it's 58 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 1: like to enjoy it is the best thing ever. And 59 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:40,119 Speaker 1: that's why I've loved making makeup. And I just got 60 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 1: your product, and I love the packaging and I love 61 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 1: that I can just tell there's such well intentions behind it. 62 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 1: So you're making this beauty product, which, as someone else 63 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 1: here is just like I'm in the baby stages, like 64 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 1: learning how to also make beauty products. But there's so 65 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 1: much thought put into it, and I think it's so 66 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 1: fucking awesome. Thank you. That's my creation and that's my art. 67 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 1: So I want to talk about your style first of all, 68 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 1: like how would you describe your beauty style? I feel 69 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 1: like I like to challenge any said rules that there are. 70 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 1: I really like to challenge, and I think that makes 71 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 1: me sometimes it challenging, like person to consume or I 72 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 1: don't know, so like you either kind of love me 73 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:31,839 Speaker 1: or hate me, is what I've gathered from the research 74 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 1: I've done. But I think you're wrong. People love you. 75 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:39,239 Speaker 1: I never heard anyone not loving you. Well, you're very sweet, 76 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 1: but I've checked my Instagram comments one time too many. 77 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 1: But I just think that I like to challenge what 78 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:52,280 Speaker 1: like beauty is. I like to challenge what the definition 79 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 1: of beauty is and why it is that way, and 80 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 1: I think that it really comes back to what we 81 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 1: learned or up and what we saw. And then I 82 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 1: also am in this process of trying to be more 83 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:10,840 Speaker 1: open to like color, like of course, classic black and 84 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 1: red lips like those are such classic beauty staples. But 85 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 1: I also love I just as I sound like a 86 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 1: five year old, But I fucking love rainbows and I 87 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 1: love color and it makes me really happy. And I 88 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:25,360 Speaker 1: feel like when I'm walking around, I don't feel like 89 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 1: a person. I feel like I'm just like blue Tiger. 90 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 1: That's what I kind of like. I would say identify 91 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 1: as a blue Tiger. So, well, you're a You're a 92 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 1: full on creative being and that's what you do. And 93 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 1: so it's almost like I get it, but do you 94 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 1: think you got into music first or or beauty first 95 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:49,279 Speaker 1: when you were a kid. Always went hand in hand. 96 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 1: It was weird. When I was growing up, I always 97 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:54,720 Speaker 1: gravitated towards looking at people like t Rex, like Mark 98 00:05:54,760 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 1: Folan and Iggy Pop specifically Zicky started era like this 99 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:09,719 Speaker 1: very gender bending, very sparkly, theatrical and like very cool. 100 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:13,159 Speaker 1: But it just so happened that they were also men. 101 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 1: So I love the kind of gender bending. And I 102 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:19,599 Speaker 1: always loved anything that sparkled, like I'm like a like 103 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 1: a I forget what kind of fish it is, like 104 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 1: a barracuda or or raccoon, Like anything that sparkles like 105 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 1: I can't help it. I'm just attracted to it. So 106 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:30,840 Speaker 1: and were you the kid that wore it to school 107 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 1: like in high school? Oh? Yeah, it was it was 108 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 1: a train wreck. I was not a train wreck. It 109 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 1: was an exploration and I love to see those pictures. 110 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 1: We're still exploring. I think life is one. But it 111 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:47,720 Speaker 1: kind of wently under the hand to me because I 112 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:50,040 Speaker 1: thought the visual side of things was so cool when 113 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 1: you would see this man and then it covered in 114 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 1: glitter in a one leg jumpsuit, and I just thought 115 00:06:57,920 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 1: it was the coolest thing ever, especially some of the 116 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 1: iconic face painting moments, David Bowie moments, like they're just 117 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 1: like burned into my mind as the coolest thing ever, 118 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 1: like where he just looks like a creature from space. 119 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 1: So I got into both at the same time because 120 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 1: to me, they go hand in hand. It's like the 121 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 1: internal expression and then the external expression of oneself to 122 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 1: kind of go with each other. But how did you 123 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 1: get into music? In the beginning, music was just kind 124 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 1: of part of the narrative because my mom is a songwriter, 125 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 1: and she wrote songs for Johnny Cash and Dolly Parton 126 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 1: sang the song, and Merle Haggard just all these classic 127 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 1: country icon legend like people that are just you know, 128 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 1: next level amazing, And so I was just always around music, 129 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 1: so it kind of was like it was, weirdly just 130 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 1: part of our lives. Like on Christmas, our family would 131 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 1: just play music together. It sounds so weird because I 132 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 1: know that's really different than other people's Christmas experience, but 133 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 1: that was our way of bonding and like our communication 134 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 1: style almost was making music together. And then when did 135 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 1: you put music and makeup together? Like what part of 136 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 1: your career? Um? I think I've tried my whole life 137 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 1: to kind of put them together, and some have been 138 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 1: more successful attempts than others. But I think that's kind 139 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 1: of part of the fun is that I also learned 140 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 1: from a really early age like if you're gonna do 141 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 1: weird ship, you're gonna have opinions. So just get used 142 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 1: to some people liking it and some people not liking it, 143 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 1: including myself. Like sometimes I think I look fucking fierce 144 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 1: and fabulous, and then I see a picture of it 145 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 1: and I'm like, that is not what I thought it 146 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 1: looked like. So what what what was your worst makeup 147 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 1: memory where you're like, did I really do that? Oh? 148 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 1: There's so many which I don't even think, well, on SNL, 149 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 1: I decided to the first time I ever played Saturday 150 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:03,439 Speaker 1: Night Live, I it was like, I very much I 151 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 1: don't feel like I'm from this planet, so I want 152 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 1: to look as much like a space creature as possible. 153 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 1: So I wanted to do all day glow makeup, and 154 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:15,959 Speaker 1: I believe at the time it was something they've never 155 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 1: done before, so it was like a bit of a 156 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 1: challenge to successfully like pull it off. And when I 157 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:25,960 Speaker 1: look back at that, I'm like, you know what, good 158 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:29,680 Speaker 1: for you, But it's not exactly what I thought it 159 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:32,679 Speaker 1: was gonna look like. Sounds so cool. Do you share 160 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 1: these pictures on any of your socials, all of these 161 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 1: makeup memories? You know what? I should do some more 162 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 1: of that, because yeah, I like my TVT Throwback Thursday. 163 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 1: I totally should. There's also a time where I had 164 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 1: like a mohawk and blue lipstick on and it was 165 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:50,320 Speaker 1: just all stuff that like you're not supposed to do, 166 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 1: and I was like, well, I have to do it, 167 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 1: And what did you do something on Jimmy Fallon? Did 168 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 1: you do makeup on Jimmy Fallon? Or you I did? 169 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:03,200 Speaker 1: I made him put on blue lipsticks, So I like, 170 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:07,319 Speaker 1: basically bought out the Max Store of this like blue eyeliner, 171 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 1: and it's kind of the color I feel like reflects 172 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 1: probably what my aura has always looked like, just like 173 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:16,679 Speaker 1: my favorite color of like turquoise blue. And so I 174 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 1: put it on as lipstick for like, I don't know, 175 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 1: three years, and then I when I went on Jimmy, 176 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 1: I do get what it was, I think, and I 177 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:29,679 Speaker 1: made Jim put it on. I'm pretty applied it to 178 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:32,080 Speaker 1: him or somebody else applied it to him. But good 179 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 1: for him for being a good sport. Knows that's so cute. 180 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:38,560 Speaker 1: And talk to me about your makeup artist, because I 181 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 1: know you have a close relationship with him. Does he 182 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 1: always do your makeup? And for how long? Oh? God? 183 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 1: Ideally yes, he always does my makeup because for me, 184 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 1: like my makeup style is either I'm pretty all or 185 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 1: nothing kind of gal. So if I'm which is why 186 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 1: I'm really excited about your makeup. Actually, it's because it 187 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:04,680 Speaker 1: seems very much like nothing. No, It's like it just 188 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:08,079 Speaker 1: feels good for your skin, it feels nourishing. It doesn't 189 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 1: feel like it's going to Like a lot of times 190 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 1: when I do stage makeup, it's like really really intense 191 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 1: and thick, and there's a lot of makeup happening, and 192 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 1: this is makeup that seems really wearable and seems really 193 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:25,079 Speaker 1: healthy for your skin, which it is. It's all clean, 194 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 1: it's a clean brand and that was really important to me, 195 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 1: and um, I wanted it to feel as good as 196 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 1: it looks. And I, you know, it's funny because I 197 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 1: was looking through your Instagram and I stopped at this 198 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 1: picture of you with red lipstick and freckles, and I 199 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:42,200 Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, how adorable is that picture? 200 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 1: Do you do that? Sometimes on stage we're not really 201 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 1: like no makeup and just something, you know what I 202 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 1: makeup is a little bit part of like the the 203 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:56,960 Speaker 1: superpower that like, well, before I go on stage, there's 204 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:59,680 Speaker 1: this whole ritual of putting on, like I do full 205 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:02,439 Speaker 1: make up and then I usually have some crazy wig 206 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 1: down to my ass and a cape. So it's kind 207 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 1: of part of like putting on the putting on the thing. 208 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 1: It's like going on stage with all this makeup on, 209 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 1: and I enjoy it because it's part of the extremes 210 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:18,080 Speaker 1: of my personality. It's like it's it's like I'm either 211 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:20,840 Speaker 1: at home with this beautiful bomb on my face and 212 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 1: the Master era or I'm like full face of makeup 213 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 1: with stars glued to my forehead and glitter everywhere and 214 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 1: turquoise and lashes, and I haven't really done fully. If 215 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 1: I'm being totally honest, I've never on like full naked 216 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 1: face on stage because that sounds like it's so vulnerable. God, 217 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 1: but you look so freaking pretty thin. I just have 218 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:47,560 Speaker 1: to say, I love your freckles, so thank you. Well, 219 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 1: it's kind of like you're saying in fifth grade when 220 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 1: you were like singing and someone told you to not 221 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 1: sing and it traumatized you into thinking you can't sing. 222 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 1: I on my very first album cover, I took all 223 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:02,679 Speaker 1: the pictures. I thought I looked so cute that all 224 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:05,440 Speaker 1: my freckles are blazing. And then I got like the 225 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 1: picture back from I don't know who did it, to 226 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 1: be honest, but I got the picture back and they 227 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 1: had blurred out all of my freckles and I was like, oh, okay, 228 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 1: so that because that was back then, right and back then. Yeah. 229 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 1: I once hired a model with a gap in her 230 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 1: teeth and they filled it in. I was like, why, 231 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 1: that was like made her so interesting? So they did 232 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 1: the same thing with freckles. Yeah, I think I kind 233 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:31,559 Speaker 1: of like have grown to now it's like a badge 234 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 1: of honor my freckles, and maybe one day I'll be 235 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 1: able to go out fully naked faced. But it sounds 236 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 1: a little bit scary. But my makeup artist, what's his name, 237 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:45,679 Speaker 1: Vittorio Toreo Missekia, and I have to say, he's like 238 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 1: one of my closest friends and has been with me 239 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 1: for like years and years, and we've grown so much 240 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 1: together as people and just in the beauty department. It's 241 00:13:56,880 --> 00:13:59,320 Speaker 1: so much fun because we take risks and it's exciting 242 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:02,680 Speaker 1: and it just feels like it's a really safe place. 243 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:04,840 Speaker 1: And I trust him with my face, like he knows 244 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 1: my face like the back of his hand, and so 245 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:10,199 Speaker 1: I could fall asleep or I could be crying hysterically, 246 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 1: and I just know that he's going to make sure 247 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 1: that the outside looks okay, even if the inside is struggling, 248 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 1: like he makes sure the outside looks great. And I 249 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 1: just love having that trust with somebody. I feel like 250 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 1: it's really rare. So is the process where you come 251 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 1: up with the ideas and you explain what you're thinking 252 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 1: and he translates them or do you do it together. 253 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 1: It's really collaborative, like they'll be some days where like 254 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 1: yesterday he was like, how do you want to look? 255 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 1: And I was like, I want to look like the 256 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 1: ocean on a beautiful day, Like I want to be 257 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 1: a sparkle ocean lady. And he's got it and so 258 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 1: he'll interpret that into a way that makes sense on 259 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 1: my face. And then we kind of tweak it together 260 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 1: and we take risks together, like it's kind of fun, 261 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 1: like it's like, well, wait, should we like tie tye 262 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 1: this wig? And I'm like, a slutely, we should. So 263 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 1: it's really like it's really nice to have like um yeah, totally, 264 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 1: that's just like ready to get weird. But then also 265 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 1: can stop you from yourself and be like okay, it's done, 266 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 1: Like you're done. It's good. And how involved is he 267 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 1: and your brand? He when in the first round I 268 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 1: ran everything by him because I wanted to make sure 269 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 1: it's something he would use on my face, anything that 270 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 1: I ever put out. I want to make sure I 271 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 1: stand behind I will wear it. I'll wear it on stage, 272 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 1: I'd wear it off stage. I want to put it 273 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 1: on my face. It's not tested on animals. It's clean 274 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 1: like your brand, which I so appreciate. Like when brands 275 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 1: are clean and not test on animals, it's like that's 276 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 1: a deal breaker for me. So just knowing, like the 277 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 1: integrity behind the brand is there and then you can 278 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 1: just have fun with the product after you check, like 279 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 1: make sure the integrity is there, and then you just 280 00:15:57,440 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 1: you know, do whatever the funk you want and that's 281 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 1: the fun part. So he did. I did make sure 282 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 1: with him, like everything I did he would use on 283 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 1: my face. But I did do the designing, from the 284 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 1: packaging to every single little color. I was such a 285 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 1: pain in the ass about it, which I'm kind of 286 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 1: curious to you as like a creator of iconic makeup 287 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 1: for like years now, how involved are you in it? 288 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 1: Like are you super anal about everything? Because I'm like 289 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 1: I am I am um. Some people would call me difficult. 290 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 1: I tend to call myself brilliant. Okay, there's a fine 291 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 1: line between difficult and brilliant. It depends who is actually 292 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 1: standing in front of you. And the people that get 293 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 1: me would say I was brilliant. The people that didn't 294 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 1: get me would say I was difficult. I wouldn't let 295 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 1: them do this. I wouldn't let I'm like, okay, I 296 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 1: wouldn't let you do it because you suck at what 297 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 1: you do. But that's a whole another, a whole, another podcast. Well, 298 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 1: we understand me. You would have to be a pain 299 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 1: in the ass sometimes what you want. Yeah, well, you know, 300 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:05,639 Speaker 1: I also have a very you know, strong vision of 301 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 1: what I want and my you know, the the hard 302 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 1: part is getting people your team around you that shares 303 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 1: your vision, understands it and is excited about it and 304 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:20,120 Speaker 1: so ready for your pain and the assess because they 305 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 1: trust that the thing that will end up being will 306 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:44,399 Speaker 1: be worth it all. So why did you want to 307 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 1: start a makeup brand? I think because my name has 308 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 1: been so synonymous with like outrageous makeup, like you know, 309 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:57,920 Speaker 1: like I've said before, both looks that I think are 310 00:17:58,000 --> 00:17:59,920 Speaker 1: just like so much fun and I'm so happy I 311 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 1: did and some that I'm kind of like, whoa, it 312 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 1: wasn't the best, but I was I was having fun, 313 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 1: so you know whatever, um, and I just I think 314 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 1: it's such a fun way to express how you feel 315 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:16,920 Speaker 1: on the inside and accentuate what you feel like makes 316 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 1: you feel confident and what makes you feel beautiful. I'm 317 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 1: really into not necessarily like, not perfection for me is 318 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:28,439 Speaker 1: not what I'm after. I'm after people just accentuating what 319 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:31,679 Speaker 1: makes them feel beautiful and what they want to accentuate. So, 320 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 1: if you want to draw on your forehead with my eyeliner, like, 321 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 1: I'm so here for that. But I also you can 322 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 1: use it as a classic liquid liner. And I just like, 323 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:45,920 Speaker 1: I just want people to play. I think having fun 324 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:49,639 Speaker 1: with life and makeup and everything, like it shouldn't all 325 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:54,160 Speaker 1: be so serious. I think it's really important to have fun. 326 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:57,200 Speaker 1: I think it's important to dance even if you can't dance. 327 00:18:57,280 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 1: I think it's important to saying even if you can't sing, 328 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 1: because it's like those are the things that keep you 329 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:04,639 Speaker 1: young at heart. And so with my makeup, I wanted 330 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:09,439 Speaker 1: it to be really like joy inspiring and like fun 331 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 1: and that feeling that I get when I'm about to 332 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:14,679 Speaker 1: do something kind of crazy, like glue a star on 333 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:17,119 Speaker 1: my forehead, the feeling of like should I do this? 334 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:20,199 Speaker 1: There's this too crazy? Like I want other people to 335 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 1: feel that feeling of like should I wear this crazy 336 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 1: green sparkly eyeshadow? Is it too crazy? And just try it? 337 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:29,720 Speaker 1: And if you don't like it. You know, you live 338 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:33,120 Speaker 1: and you learn. Yeah, well, your packaging is really beautiful 339 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 1: and it looks very vintage. So where'd you get the 340 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:39,120 Speaker 1: inspiration for that? Thank you so much for saying that. 341 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 1: I'm like obsessed with packaging. Honestly, it's a mashup of 342 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:49,680 Speaker 1: there's gonna be a really weird reference just warning you. Um, 343 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:57,479 Speaker 1: I figured ahead. It's slightly inspired by Stanley Kubrick and 344 00:19:57,560 --> 00:20:03,119 Speaker 1: like the Shining the floor, the carpeting of the floor 345 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 1: of the movie The Shining, the Little Boy is writing 346 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 1: his tricycle on that was inspiring to the inside of 347 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:13,160 Speaker 1: the fact, like the outside and the inside of the packaging. 348 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:16,159 Speaker 1: There's a red velvet and a and a brown like 349 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 1: a brown orange almost petrified wood feeling, and I wanted 350 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 1: it to feel really vintage. And the actual physical packaging, 351 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:32,200 Speaker 1: I feel like I'm very much a child of the moon, 352 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 1: and I wanted it to feel ethereal as it could 353 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 1: physically feel. I wanted to feel so with you, really 354 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 1: and so special. I wanted to feel something you pulled 355 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:45,400 Speaker 1: out of your bag. Your friend would be like, what 356 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 1: is that? That is so cool? I want to touch it. 357 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 1: And when you are writing music, and thinking about, you know, 358 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 1: a new album or working on an album. How much 359 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 1: of the makeup inspiration do you kind of see together? Well, 360 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 1: I'm doing this now, and I could do this palette 361 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 1: because it reminds me of this. Is that very much 362 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 1: part of it? Oh? Absolutely? I think much like albums 363 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 1: are snapshots of how you're feeling in a particular time, 364 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 1: I think that the makeup packaging, the packaging and the 365 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:18,119 Speaker 1: makeup inside is a snapshot of where I'm at in 366 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:21,159 Speaker 1: my life and what my mood is and or what 367 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:23,119 Speaker 1: I want my mood to be. Like, I made the 368 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 1: palette really brightly colored, and there are parts that are shining, 369 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 1: their parts that are velvet. There's a tassel. It's like 370 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:35,639 Speaker 1: very extra because I feel like I'm a little bit extra. 371 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:39,879 Speaker 1: I don't know he gathered that, but I wanted to 372 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 1: just feel like extra different and extra special and just 373 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 1: something I haven't ever seen before. And I think that 374 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 1: the next round will look a little bit different and 375 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 1: it will be different, but at the heart of it, 376 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:58,480 Speaker 1: it's going to be myself, which is always going to 377 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 1: be probably just a little bit weird. So and you've 378 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:04,919 Speaker 1: been doing makeup on yourself on your YouTube channel. Is 379 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:08,199 Speaker 1: that true? Yes, I'm not like great at doing my 380 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 1: own makeup, so I have Victorio, my makeup artist. I 381 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 1: haven't kind of walking me through and teaching me how 382 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 1: to do makeup because through quarantine, I've been trying to, 383 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 1: you know, like the rest of us, figure out what 384 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 1: this new lifestyle means. And with your job as an artist, 385 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 1: it's it's you know, it's very different. I'm used to 386 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 1: being on the road. I was supposed to be on 387 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 1: Toril year and this here's obviously not gone the way 388 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:39,239 Speaker 1: we all thought it was going to go. So just 389 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:41,639 Speaker 1: trying to figure out how to do things for myself 390 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:44,359 Speaker 1: that I've never had to do before, like like a 391 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 1: full beat for a music video and then film the 392 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 1: music video, and like the music video and at the 393 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 1: music video, all these things I'm trying to learn how 394 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 1: to do on my own, which is it's been an 395 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:58,439 Speaker 1: interesting process. So now your this creator, are you also 396 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 1: getting involved in the business. Is that something you love 397 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 1: learning or are you happy for other people to deal 398 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:07,680 Speaker 1: with that. I'm really interested in learning how to apply 399 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:11,160 Speaker 1: the product to my own face, like I always wanted. 400 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:13,119 Speaker 1: I always only want to put out things that I 401 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:16,359 Speaker 1: would stand behind. And wear and pretty much since I 402 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 1: put out my palate, it's a lot of what I wear, 403 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 1: Like I wear it so much. It's not the only 404 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:25,920 Speaker 1: thing I wear, but I do wear it a lot, 405 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 1: so I can really stand behind it. But I the 406 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:33,640 Speaker 1: business side of things and like the promotional side of things, 407 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:38,399 Speaker 1: like I just am not as drawn to. But I 408 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:40,160 Speaker 1: do need to get better at that side of things 409 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:43,959 Speaker 1: because I do want to keep my makeup affordable and 410 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 1: also very special. So to do that, you have to 411 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 1: be more involved, which I'm realizing now because I just 412 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 1: put out my first my first round of my first line, 413 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:58,359 Speaker 1: and as I'm doing it, I'm realizing you don't just 414 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:02,120 Speaker 1: get to create it and then like like you don't 415 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 1: just get to birth the baby. Then you got to 416 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:05,879 Speaker 1: take care of the baby. You've got to feed the 417 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:14,680 Speaker 1: baby exactly exactly. So yeah, I will you have my 418 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:17,360 Speaker 1: get you my cell number if you have any questions. 419 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 1: I I learned honestly. I I never went to business school, 420 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:24,680 Speaker 1: and I learned most things about business and cosmetics actually 421 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 1: having a job and working and learning from the people 422 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:30,880 Speaker 1: around me. But I also didn't have like this giant 423 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:34,439 Speaker 1: singing career, you know, I had nothing else except a family. 424 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:51,879 Speaker 1: You know, kids in a family. So, just because this 425 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 1: is a beauty podcast, I ask everyone and I know 426 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,119 Speaker 1: the answer, but I'm going to ask you anyways, what 427 00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 1: does beauty mean to you? I'm so curious what you 428 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 1: think my answer is going to be, but I'll answer 429 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 1: it first, really curious what you think it's going to be. 430 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:13,679 Speaker 1: Beauty to me? Is we think about that? Such cheesy answer, 431 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 1: but it really is how I feel beauty is happiness 432 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 1: and confidence and acceptance, and I I really just want 433 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 1: to encourage amplifying that with my beauty line and not 434 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:37,920 Speaker 1: changing or perfecting or focusing on what makes one insecure. 435 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 1: I want to make people feel more beautiful because they 436 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:46,880 Speaker 1: feel confident and radiant in what makes them unique. That's 437 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:48,960 Speaker 1: a wonderful answer, better than I was gonna say. I 438 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 1: was gonna say rainbows and glitter. So no, that's a 439 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:56,200 Speaker 1: really good, really good What is your favorite cocktail? Oh? 440 00:25:56,240 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 1: My favorite cocktail? Well, I know the whole world thinks 441 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:03,439 Speaker 1: I brush my teeth with Jack Daniels probably still to 442 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:08,159 Speaker 1: this day, but um, I will say that my favorite 443 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:14,880 Speaker 1: cocktail is I like a good martini vodka, Urgin vodka. 444 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:20,719 Speaker 1: Oh really? Oh no, I'm a vodka drinker. Yeah, I 445 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 1: am a vodka drinker. Yes I am. So what's the 446 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 1: craziest thing you've ever done? Just for fun, not for work, 447 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:30,199 Speaker 1: just for fun, just for fun. Okay, I have a 448 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,439 Speaker 1: couple of things. I think I'm an adrenaline junkie. So 449 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 1: just for fun my main thing I do just for fun. 450 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 1: That's purely just like feed my soul. Is I love 451 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 1: to swim with whales. M hm. So I go to 452 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 1: like in the middle of nowhere. It takes like three 453 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:50,639 Speaker 1: days to get there, and I swim for a week 454 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:55,200 Speaker 1: with whales, and um, it's the most beautiful thing in 455 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 1: the entire world and also terrifying and exciting and fun 456 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 1: and cold and uncomfortable, and it's my favorite thing in 457 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 1: the whole world. Is that why you named the palette? Wt? Wait? 458 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 1: What wtf W? So it's fine, it's fine the whales 459 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:16,440 Speaker 1: or it's fun the world, whichever one you preferred. And um, 460 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:19,400 Speaker 1: I also want to talk about your podcast, yes, so 461 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:22,679 Speaker 1: tell me about the podcast. Now, we are both, you know, 462 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 1: I heart harders. We are, ye, how well? So I 463 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 1: just began my podcast and I don't know how you're 464 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:34,880 Speaker 1: finding it, as I'm a. I'm new to it. Yeah, 465 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 1: it's my second season. These guys are the best. Heart 466 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 1: is the best. Oh, they're great. I'm speaking more just 467 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:43,479 Speaker 1: like when you do something you've never done before. For me, 468 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,400 Speaker 1: I was a little bit nervous at first, and like 469 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:52,479 Speaker 1: technology is not necessarily my strong suit. Um, so I 470 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 1: had like the the cameras were falling all over the 471 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:57,680 Speaker 1: place and that was going about so I had to 472 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:02,879 Speaker 1: work out some kinks. But I am loving talking to 473 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,919 Speaker 1: people because I have a podcast. It's called Kesha and 474 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 1: the Creepies, and it's really just talking and shooting the 475 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 1: ship with anybody who has ever experienced anything kind of 476 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 1: unexplainable or people that are skeptics of the unexplainable. It's 477 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 1: really kind of a segue for me to get to 478 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 1: people's spirituality and what you think is out there and 479 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:30,000 Speaker 1: what you can't explain. Because to me, that's what makes 480 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 1: life really magical is the stuff that I can't really explain. 481 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,720 Speaker 1: So I love just talking to people about the weirdest 482 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 1: and creepiest ship they've ever seen. Oh, I cannot wait 483 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 1: to listen to it sounds super interesting. But I also 484 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 1: last question, I want to ask you, what's next for 485 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 1: the makeup Lind, like, what do you you know? Are 486 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 1: you have any ideas or new products or new launches 487 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:56,320 Speaker 1: that you're thinking about? Yes, I am. I'm currently being 488 00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 1: as you would call it, brilliant and or difficult and 489 00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 1: or a clean and snuff Yes. About the next round 490 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 1: of product I'm putting out I have. I don't really 491 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 1: know what I'm allowed to talk about, so I'll just 492 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 1: tell you, um, because you're fucking Bobby Brown, but I 493 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:22,040 Speaker 1: love making clean makeup, as we talked about, and cruelty free. 494 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 1: And then on top of it, I just really want 495 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 1: to make like the highlighter scent from Hell or Heaven 496 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:33,960 Speaker 1: or whatever, just something that is so luxurious and that 497 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 1: you just want to wear all over your entire body 498 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 1: and face. So I'm currently working on making that, and 499 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:47,720 Speaker 1: I also am working on making some more insane glitter 500 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 1: products because I feel like when people think of me, 501 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 1: they think of glitter and pumpose I like you are 502 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 1: saying earlier, So I've already covered the rainbow categories, so 503 00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 1: now I'm really pushing myself to the ends of the 504 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:04,520 Speaker 1: earth and what glitter can mean and get that to 505 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 1: the masses. Very cool, very cool, I'm really excited to 506 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 1: see what's next. I think you're so interesting and unique 507 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 1: and wonderful, and you know, one of these days, I'm 508 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:18,480 Speaker 1: going to do your makeup if you're if your makeup 509 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:22,480 Speaker 1: arts will allow me and just leave the freckles and 510 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 1: see where I could put the glitter and the red 511 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:29,960 Speaker 1: or something. But I'm so open to all of it, 512 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:32,960 Speaker 1: and like he the beautiful part about our relationship is 513 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:36,120 Speaker 1: that he would be like sitting and watching and like 514 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:39,080 Speaker 1: geeking out and smiling and be so excited to watch 515 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 1: you work because you're the same. Because then I then 516 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 1: I could watch him do his thing. I find that interesting. 517 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 1: But you know what, in life, you just never know, 518 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 1: and you just got to be open because you never 519 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 1: know what's gonna, you know, come your way. And I'm 520 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:55,960 Speaker 1: looking I am looking forward to seeing what you do next. 521 00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:58,600 Speaker 1: So just also, where could people they know where to 522 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 1: find you? You've got, you know, billions of viewers and listeners, 523 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 1: But tell people that are listening that maybe don't know 524 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 1: where the best place to find you. Okay, so my 525 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:12,040 Speaker 1: Instagram is not my name. I've decided to make it 526 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 1: really complicated for everyone. It's I is who I is, 527 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 1: which is a play on my song we Are Who 528 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:23,000 Speaker 1: We Are? And when I meet people there like is 529 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 1: who is? And I'm like, oh no, no, I is 530 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 1: who I is. If you go there, it'll send you 531 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:35,720 Speaker 1: to kesher Rose Beauty and that is where you can 532 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 1: get all of my makeup and play with it and 533 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:44,320 Speaker 1: have fun and explore and feel magical. Oh it's amazing, 534 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 1: good luck with everything. It was a pleasure. I'm making 535 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:51,479 Speaker 1: my I'm making my walking playlist only to your music. 536 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:55,160 Speaker 1: So um, I might maybe it'll get me dancing, but 537 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,160 Speaker 1: you girl, you gotta start dancing and singing even if 538 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 1: nobody's watching. It's so good. Yeah, oh I do when 539 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 1: no one when no one's watching, I absolutely do. But anyways, 540 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 1: it's a pleasure to meet you. Thank you, thank you, 541 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,719 Speaker 1: thank you, big kiss, big hog. You too much. All right, 542 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 1: by bye. Take care. For more podcasts from I Heart Radio, 543 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 1: visit the I Heart Radio app, Apple podcast, or wherever 544 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:21,800 Speaker 1: you listen to your favorite shows.