WEBVTT - BobbyCast Presents: Unsigned & Independent: Samica - It all Started with a Viral Video 0:00:10.440 --> 0:00:13.720 Welcome to Unsigned and Independent. And so this is a 0:00:13.760 --> 0:00:16.520 show where Kickoff Kevin goes and talks to artists who 0:00:16.560 --> 0:00:18.320 you think they have something going on, they just haven't 0:00:18.360 --> 0:00:20.600 been discovered yet, right correct. And a lot of them 0:00:20.680 --> 0:00:23.680 are spending their own money to fund their career until 0:00:23.720 --> 0:00:26.560 somebody steps in to help them in whatever way that is. Yeah. 0:00:26.600 --> 0:00:28.160 Would you say most are looking for like a record 0:00:28.200 --> 0:00:29.960 deal or a publishing deal or most that you talk 0:00:30.000 --> 0:00:31.240 to have one or both. 0:00:31.560 --> 0:00:35.240 I would say most are not like searching and seeking 0:00:35.280 --> 0:00:37.400 for it unless the right opportunity comes along. 0:00:37.440 --> 0:00:40.080 Thing that must be awesome, Yeah, because I was always 0:00:40.080 --> 0:00:42.519 seeking for money. Yeah. I was like, I'll do anything. 0:00:42.760 --> 0:00:43.440 What do you want me to be? 0:00:43.720 --> 0:00:45.839 Yeah, So tell me about Samika. 0:00:45.920 --> 0:00:49.120 Samika has got the social media thing dialed down where 0:00:49.159 --> 0:00:52.000 she has a couple outlets, a YouTube show and she 0:00:52.040 --> 0:00:54.600 went viral for yeah show like a cooking kind of 0:00:54.600 --> 0:00:57.800 like a funny little show. It's like little clips. 0:00:57.520 --> 0:00:57.920 Here and there. 0:00:57.960 --> 0:00:59.760 And then she went viral when she first moved to 0:00:59.840 --> 0:01:03.160 thatville for cooking or for music, No, for music. She 0:01:03.160 --> 0:01:04.440 made a video in her car where she went to 0:01:04.480 --> 0:01:06.639 the store and this guy said something to her, Welcome 0:01:06.680 --> 0:01:09.039 to America. Because she came from LA and it was 0:01:09.040 --> 0:01:10.959 just a funny video. You've probably seen him before actually, 0:01:11.000 --> 0:01:12.320 so and then she went viral. That's how I came 0:01:12.319 --> 0:01:13.840 across her. So she's got the whole thing down. 0:01:13.959 --> 0:01:15.960 She is a first generation Indian America and moved to 0:01:16.000 --> 0:01:19.160 Nashville earlier this year to pursue her music career. And again, 0:01:19.400 --> 0:01:22.479 this is very much about being good but marketing yourself 0:01:22.560 --> 0:01:25.800 through social media through different ways, and all with the 0:01:25.840 --> 0:01:27.639 idea of leading people to her music. 0:01:27.760 --> 0:01:28.280 Exactly. 0:01:28.400 --> 0:01:30.160 Even if she's cooking a keysh it's to get people 0:01:30.200 --> 0:01:31.720 to her music, exactly. I don't even know if she 0:01:31.760 --> 0:01:32.520 cooks keish. 0:01:32.959 --> 0:01:34.600 It's probably been on there, but I just. 0:01:34.520 --> 0:01:37.400 Said cooking akish. That's alliteration almost. 0:01:37.520 --> 0:01:38.840 I don't even really know what Akeisha is. 0:01:39.400 --> 0:01:39.720 You know what. 0:01:39.760 --> 0:01:41.720 I've had some and I don't either. That's the thing 0:01:41.840 --> 0:01:44.720 all right. Here she is unsigned and independent. It is 0:01:44.880 --> 0:01:47.680 Samika here with kickoff Kevin Samika. 0:01:47.680 --> 0:01:48.160 How are we doing? 0:01:48.360 --> 0:01:49.400 I'm good? How are you? 0:01:49.560 --> 0:01:51.760 I'm good? Good. I want to start this off with 0:01:51.880 --> 0:01:54.920 how I came across you. Yes, of course, like so 0:01:55.000 --> 0:01:58.840 many other things nowadays, it's social media. I had a 0:01:58.880 --> 0:02:02.480 friend actually and me a video of yours. He's from 0:02:02.800 --> 0:02:05.680 I grew up in California like yourself, which we'll get 0:02:05.680 --> 0:02:08.519 into a little bit. But I knew him from California 0:02:08.919 --> 0:02:10.799 and he sent me this video because you posted a 0:02:10.880 --> 0:02:14.120 video about how you just moved to Nashville. Yeah. I 0:02:14.160 --> 0:02:16.600 don't know how he came across it, and he's like, hey, 0:02:16.600 --> 0:02:18.280 this video is funny. And it was a video of 0:02:18.360 --> 0:02:21.760 you talking about moving to Nashville and somebody says, like 0:02:21.840 --> 0:02:23.920 you came, or you said I came from California and 0:02:23.960 --> 0:02:25.840 somebody said what do they say? How did it feel 0:02:25.880 --> 0:02:27.639 to like be free or something like that. 0:02:27.720 --> 0:02:28.360 Yeah, he said. 0:02:29.360 --> 0:02:31.080 So. It was at a thrift shop and I just 0:02:31.440 --> 0:02:33.800 I told the guy I was really excited that I 0:02:33.880 --> 0:02:36.200 was here, and I was like, hey, I just moved 0:02:36.200 --> 0:02:41.200 here from la And then he said, oh, Laurel, Alabama, 0:02:41.240 --> 0:02:42.640 like I heard it's real nice. 0:02:42.480 --> 0:02:45.720 Down there, Like, no, it's from California. 0:02:45.880 --> 0:02:48.880 But and then anyway, he just said welcome to America, 0:02:48.919 --> 0:02:51.239 and I said thank you know, thanks sir. 0:02:52.280 --> 0:02:54.280 But yeah, that video, that's so funny. 0:02:54.320 --> 0:02:57.880 That video went so crazy and I really had no 0:02:58.000 --> 0:03:02.280 expectation of it, and then it started something on social 0:03:02.320 --> 0:03:03.960 media and how. 0:03:03.760 --> 0:03:06.560 Many views have what's your latest number on that? 0:03:06.919 --> 0:03:11.000 Honestly, I posted it everywhere, so I think on Instagram 0:03:11.040 --> 0:03:14.160 it had like three and a half million. On TikTok 0:03:14.240 --> 0:03:17.240 it was at three and a half almost four, and 0:03:17.280 --> 0:03:22.400 then on YouTube some politician reposted it and it became 0:03:22.480 --> 0:03:25.280 his most viewed video, and then I think that one 0:03:25.320 --> 0:03:27.280 has like five or six million. 0:03:27.480 --> 0:03:30.800 No way, I know. It was so wild, So you 0:03:30.880 --> 0:03:32.200 post that obviously it was. 0:03:32.160 --> 0:03:35.040 Like a really nice, warm, welcome to Nashville. But yeah, 0:03:35.080 --> 0:03:35.840 it's crazy, but. 0:03:36.200 --> 0:03:39.960 You post that without expecting it to do what it did. Yeah, 0:03:40.000 --> 0:03:42.000 So when did you, like, was it one of those 0:03:42.040 --> 0:03:43.600 you hear about where you post this video, you go 0:03:43.600 --> 0:03:44.840 to bed and you wake up next day and you're like, 0:03:44.840 --> 0:03:47.120 holy crap, this has got over a million views. Was 0:03:47.160 --> 0:03:48.760 it one of those or did you see it kind 0:03:48.800 --> 0:03:51.320 of coming together or did it take a while like 0:03:51.360 --> 0:03:53.320 some people just it kept going. 0:03:53.360 --> 0:03:55.800 Like I went to the DMV the other day literally 0:03:56.040 --> 0:03:58.360 I posted that video. I've been here for almost like 0:03:58.400 --> 0:04:01.520 three months, and at the DMV, the lady at the 0:04:01.600 --> 0:04:03.680 DMV was like, I just saw you on TikTok really 0:04:03.920 --> 0:04:06.720 like this is a DMV. I don't look nice, Like, 0:04:07.400 --> 0:04:08.080 don't say that. 0:04:08.360 --> 0:04:10.880 Yeah, okay, So how many people have noticed you from 0:04:10.880 --> 0:04:14.440 that video? Like so many, especially in Nashville. 0:04:14.840 --> 0:04:17.320 Yeah, especially in Nashville and New York. I went to 0:04:17.360 --> 0:04:17.800 New York. 0:04:19.040 --> 0:04:22.159 Yeah, it just really helped people kind of also just 0:04:22.200 --> 0:04:24.800 come to the page and see that I make music 0:04:24.960 --> 0:04:26.840 and all of the other things that I do. 0:04:26.960 --> 0:04:28.800 So it was pretty crazy, though. 0:04:28.839 --> 0:04:30.560 Yeah, because that's how I always It came to you, 0:04:30.600 --> 0:04:33.360 like I said, and then I saw your musician, listen 0:04:33.440 --> 0:04:36.000 to your music and watching your videos, and we'll get 0:04:36.040 --> 0:04:38.560 into some of your other stuff too. You make all 0:04:38.640 --> 0:04:42.000 kinds of videos and all kinds of and it's intriguing. 0:04:42.040 --> 0:04:43.479 I mean, you do a great job at it. You 0:04:43.600 --> 0:04:46.039 have what over one hundred and ninety thousand followers on 0:04:46.080 --> 0:04:48.800 TikTok one hundred ninety thousand on Instagram. I mean, you're 0:04:48.880 --> 0:04:51.960 up there. And with all that being said, you've been 0:04:51.960 --> 0:04:53.520 here for a few months, you said, three months, And 0:04:53.520 --> 0:04:54.680 how is America? 0:04:54.720 --> 0:04:58.919 What they say America? It's been good, you know. 0:04:59.200 --> 0:05:02.200 I first when he said that, I didn't really understand, 0:05:02.360 --> 0:05:04.280 and then now that I've been here, I'm like, Okay, 0:05:04.320 --> 0:05:08.000 I had a little bit of a culture shock, and 0:05:08.279 --> 0:05:11.120 I actually really like it though, everybody's been so nice 0:05:11.160 --> 0:05:14.760 and so warm. Southern hospitality, as I'm sure you know, 0:05:14.880 --> 0:05:18.520 is a real thing. So it's been good. It's it's 0:05:18.560 --> 0:05:21.000 starting to feel a little more like home, which we love. 0:05:21.520 --> 0:05:25.040 Yeah. Did you move out here by yourself? I basically yeah, yeah, 0:05:25.080 --> 0:05:27.520 And you live by yourself and you're doing everything by yourself. 0:05:27.520 --> 0:05:30.159 You're an independent artist obviously, that's why you're on here. 0:05:30.279 --> 0:05:30.799 Yeah. 0:05:30.839 --> 0:05:33.960 What's the Nashville scene musically been like for you in 0:05:34.000 --> 0:05:36.400 comparison to LA And how long were you in LA? First, 0:05:36.480 --> 0:05:36.760 let's go on. 0:05:36.920 --> 0:05:41.880 I was in LA for about six years, seven years, 0:05:42.440 --> 0:05:44.720 and I was there. 0:05:44.960 --> 0:05:46.279 I was from the I'm from the Bay. 0:05:46.279 --> 0:05:48.120 And then I moved to LA for six seven years 0:05:48.120 --> 0:05:51.240 and I was doing the whole music thing and then Yeah, 0:05:51.279 --> 0:05:52.760 it's been interesting. 0:05:52.360 --> 0:05:56.200 Out here, Yeah, interesting way, just. 0:05:56.200 --> 0:05:58.560 Music wise, it's been really nice. I mean in LA, 0:05:58.839 --> 0:06:01.680 I I was working with a lot of people that 0:06:02.400 --> 0:06:04.640 it was hard to find people that kind of made 0:06:04.640 --> 0:06:08.320 the same music I did. And I find it a 0:06:08.320 --> 0:06:10.120 lot easier here to find. 0:06:10.080 --> 0:06:10.720 People like that. 0:06:11.000 --> 0:06:11.919 What kind of music is that? 0:06:12.560 --> 0:06:15.719 Just more live music because Nashville is kind of the 0:06:15.760 --> 0:06:21.960 capital of live music, so it helps to have commonality 0:06:21.960 --> 0:06:23.880 with the people who are making music. I think LA 0:06:24.000 --> 0:06:29.000 is really good if you're into more like house music, 0:06:29.600 --> 0:06:32.960 more DJ vibes, R and B hip hop, like, it's 0:06:33.000 --> 0:06:35.679 really good for there. I was just told to write 0:06:35.680 --> 0:06:38.080 over beats over there. But here I get to take 0:06:38.120 --> 0:06:40.760 my songs that I wrote on guitar and kind of 0:06:40.800 --> 0:06:43.000 create something with other people here. 0:06:43.160 --> 0:06:46.039 So what moment did it hit you in LA where 0:06:46.040 --> 0:06:47.840 you said I think I need to move to Nashville. 0:06:48.279 --> 0:06:49.440 Did you visit here before? 0:06:49.480 --> 0:06:49.839 I was. 0:06:49.960 --> 0:06:53.800 I was coming out here every few weeks and for 0:06:53.960 --> 0:06:56.880 weeks at a time, so it kind of was pretty 0:06:57.000 --> 0:07:00.920 natural just to make the move. It was supermanous and 0:07:01.720 --> 0:07:04.280 it just I was here all the time, so it 0:07:04.360 --> 0:07:05.200 kind of felt right. 0:07:05.640 --> 0:07:08.080 Yeah, And you haven't looked back since and three minuts. 0:07:08.120 --> 0:07:09.200 I haven't looked back since. 0:07:09.240 --> 0:07:11.320 I've been going to New York a lot, just because 0:07:11.360 --> 0:07:13.160 a lot of my best friends live out there and 0:07:13.240 --> 0:07:15.280 it feels a little more homy sometimes. 0:07:15.360 --> 0:07:19.240 But yeah, I haven't gone back to California yet, So. 0:07:19.280 --> 0:07:19.760 Not at all. 0:07:20.240 --> 0:07:21.080 No, not yet. 0:07:21.200 --> 0:07:24.280 Okay, you miss it. I do your family in the 0:07:24.320 --> 0:07:25.920 Bay or in the Bay, Okay. 0:07:25.960 --> 0:07:26.200 Yeah. 0:07:26.200 --> 0:07:29.560 And then all of my best friends that I made 0:07:29.560 --> 0:07:32.440 in LA, they're all still in LA so that way, 0:07:32.480 --> 0:07:35.760 it's been hard to kind of meet or create close 0:07:35.800 --> 0:07:38.240 friends here, but that's comes with just moving new a 0:07:38.240 --> 0:07:38.880 new place. 0:07:38.920 --> 0:07:40.680 And you talk about that on some of your videos 0:07:40.680 --> 0:07:44.560 that you have on YouTube. So what's uh, well, you know, 0:07:44.600 --> 0:07:46.160 a first, let's talk about a few things that you do. 0:07:46.200 --> 0:07:48.600 You do a lazy girl series. Yeah, is that your 0:07:49.480 --> 0:07:51.280 what started? First? You have a lazy Girl we'll first 0:07:51.320 --> 0:07:52.400 explain the Lazy Girl series. 0:07:52.560 --> 0:07:55.360 Yeah, it's so random. Thanks. 0:07:55.960 --> 0:07:59.960 So basically, I was posting all this music stuff online 0:08:00.120 --> 0:08:04.080 and I realized that people don't really go online all 0:08:04.120 --> 0:08:06.800 the time just to listen to music. So I was like, okay, 0:08:06.840 --> 0:08:09.840 maybe I should start telling stories and doing other things 0:08:09.840 --> 0:08:13.760 that I like. And I just posted one video on TikTok. 0:08:13.800 --> 0:08:15.720 It was a lazy Girl doll. So it was an 0:08:15.720 --> 0:08:20.480 easy way to make Indian food and it's just like 0:08:20.560 --> 0:08:23.400 super chaotic cooking. I was burning food on the internet 0:08:23.440 --> 0:08:26.480 and it just did really well and people really related. 0:08:26.680 --> 0:08:29.120 And then I was like, okay, what else can I make? 0:08:29.200 --> 0:08:31.240 And I didn't know how to make anything, and that's 0:08:31.240 --> 0:08:36.600 why it's so chaotically wild cooking. But I do that, 0:08:36.800 --> 0:08:40.840 and yeah, it's crazy that that kind of started blowing up. 0:08:41.240 --> 0:08:43.880 No, where did that inspiration come from for you? Or 0:08:43.880 --> 0:08:45.080 was it just kind of winging it or. 0:08:45.280 --> 0:08:46.640 It was one of my cousins. 0:08:46.720 --> 0:08:48.880 I was visiting my cousin and I told her, like, 0:08:49.200 --> 0:08:52.679 I just I feel like I'm finally an adult, Like 0:08:52.720 --> 0:08:55.360 I just realized how to make doll like one thing. 0:08:55.440 --> 0:08:56.640 And she asked me how to do it, and I 0:08:56.640 --> 0:08:58.400 was like, oh, don't worry, I'll make a video for you. 0:08:58.520 --> 0:09:01.400 And then I made a video and yeah, I sent 0:09:01.520 --> 0:09:02.679 it to her and I'm like, here you go. 0:09:03.720 --> 0:09:05.959 And it does very well. I mean, when, like I said, 0:09:06.000 --> 0:09:08.080 when I came across your page and I saw those 0:09:08.160 --> 0:09:10.200 videos and I was like, oh, she does more than music, 0:09:10.240 --> 0:09:12.240 and you see these cooking videos and then obviously you 0:09:12.280 --> 0:09:14.959 post quite a bit of those, so it's a whole series. 0:09:15.000 --> 0:09:17.480 And they do they do well for you and they're funny. 0:09:17.679 --> 0:09:20.200 They're funny, So can you actually cook or is it 0:09:20.320 --> 0:09:21.160 just winging things? 0:09:21.280 --> 0:09:21.760 Honestly? 0:09:22.120 --> 0:09:24.959 Sometimes they come out good. I mean actually at the 0:09:25.080 --> 0:09:27.200 end there all is good. I kind of fix it. 0:09:27.240 --> 0:09:30.880 But it's like a mess just the whole time. So 0:09:31.679 --> 0:09:32.720 I don't even know at. 0:09:32.559 --> 0:09:34.040 This point, And do you have somebody help you out 0:09:34.080 --> 0:09:37.240 with those as far as filming and production. Yeah, yeah, okay, 0:09:38.000 --> 0:09:40.480 that's funny. Go check out that's all on YouTube and 0:09:40.640 --> 0:09:43.080 your Instagram. You can follow out Samika music. We'll get 0:09:43.120 --> 0:09:47.160 to as well. Going back to music here, who were 0:09:47.200 --> 0:09:49.080 some of your inspirations growing up? I mean, did your 0:09:49.240 --> 0:09:51.000 was your family involved in music? Is that where it 0:09:51.000 --> 0:09:52.040 started at a young age. 0:09:52.120 --> 0:09:55.200 So, my grandma's from my mom's side and my dad's 0:09:55.200 --> 0:09:59.319 side both sing, so I was always and my sister 0:09:59.400 --> 0:10:03.160 sing super super well, my older sister, and so music 0:10:03.240 --> 0:10:05.719 was always a thing in our household. My mom was 0:10:05.800 --> 0:10:09.760 an Indian classical dancer growing up. She did this dance 0:10:09.800 --> 0:10:12.959 called Gutuck, and we kind of grew up in dance 0:10:13.000 --> 0:10:17.480 studios with Indian music all around. And then just being 0:10:17.640 --> 0:10:20.040 raised in America, born and raised here, we grew up 0:10:20.080 --> 0:10:20.480 with you. 0:10:20.440 --> 0:10:22.959 Know, normal radio station music as well. 0:10:23.440 --> 0:10:27.400 So it was always around, and I just listened to 0:10:27.400 --> 0:10:29.400 all different kinds of music, and so I think that 0:10:29.520 --> 0:10:31.880 kind of translates into the music that I make now too. 0:10:31.920 --> 0:10:33.800 It's a little bit of everything. 0:10:34.200 --> 0:10:36.160 Did you have a certain artist or group that you 0:10:36.559 --> 0:10:38.400 wanted to or that you admired as a child. 0:10:40.120 --> 0:10:45.360 I loved like Avril Lavine, Kelly Clarkson, Taylor Swift when 0:10:45.400 --> 0:10:49.800 she first came out, just all of so many different people, 0:10:49.840 --> 0:10:53.840 and then there was like Green Day, Simple Plan, Good Charlotte, 0:10:54.040 --> 0:10:58.640 all these boy bands, you know, like emo bands that 0:10:58.679 --> 0:11:01.600 would come onto the scene, and so yeah, it was 0:11:01.760 --> 0:11:02.840 a bit all over. 0:11:02.679 --> 0:11:05.079 Really yeah, and that's kind of what your music reflects. 0:11:05.080 --> 0:11:07.240 I mean, I don't know where to really put. 0:11:07.080 --> 0:11:09.040 I don't know either. People always ask. 0:11:08.960 --> 0:11:11.439 Me, right, which is a good thing. I mean, I mean, 0:11:11.480 --> 0:11:14.040 it really is a good thing. It's good especially nowadays. 0:11:14.080 --> 0:11:15.679 I feel like with the social media and with the 0:11:15.679 --> 0:11:18.400 people you're able to reach without even a radio play, 0:11:18.720 --> 0:11:20.120 where as long as you put what you want to 0:11:20.160 --> 0:11:23.600 put out there, people will come across your videos and 0:11:23.640 --> 0:11:25.880 your music and whether it's with a lazy curl and 0:11:25.880 --> 0:11:28.040 then they get onto your music kind of thing. How 0:11:28.040 --> 0:11:30.040 has that been for you, just being able to use 0:11:30.080 --> 0:11:32.360 social media to put the music that you want to 0:11:32.360 --> 0:11:32.880 put out there. 0:11:33.559 --> 0:11:38.120 Honestly, I've been doing everything myself independently, so it's really 0:11:38.160 --> 0:11:41.520 freeing to use social media and decide when I want 0:11:41.559 --> 0:11:43.800 to release a song and what content I want to 0:11:43.840 --> 0:11:47.080 create around it, and nobody's really telling me how to 0:11:47.120 --> 0:11:49.120 do it, and I've gone through a lot of trial 0:11:49.160 --> 0:11:52.760 and error to figure out what works and what doesn't, 0:11:53.920 --> 0:11:57.920 and it's been really nice. Social Media is definitely the 0:11:57.960 --> 0:12:01.079 only way that I've been able to start to break through, 0:12:01.720 --> 0:12:05.040 and I really don't know how anybody else did it before, 0:12:05.120 --> 0:12:06.920 but it's been really helpful for me. 0:12:11.280 --> 0:12:13.560 Have you had any influences since you've been in Nashville yet? 0:12:13.720 --> 0:12:15.480 People you've looked up to worked with it so far? 0:12:15.520 --> 0:12:19.080 I know you're still fairly new. But the great thing 0:12:19.080 --> 0:12:22.599 about the city is I feel like if you make connections, 0:12:22.760 --> 0:12:24.360 a lot of people are willing to help you out here. 0:12:24.480 --> 0:12:27.320 Yeah, a lot of people and a lot of people 0:12:27.360 --> 0:12:30.079 are just so nice and just like as you said, 0:12:30.160 --> 0:12:32.640 just willing to help and they know a guy who 0:12:32.640 --> 0:12:34.720 knows a guy you know, and so all of that 0:12:34.840 --> 0:12:37.320 kind of starts, and that has started for me. So 0:12:38.480 --> 0:12:39.320 it's been really good. 0:12:39.520 --> 0:12:41.000 Are you playing anywhere out here right now? 0:12:41.080 --> 0:12:41.400 I am. 0:12:41.440 --> 0:12:47.240 I'm gonna play Whiskey jam nice And so I hit 0:12:47.360 --> 0:12:50.360 up Ward who's like the guy in charge, and sent 0:12:50.440 --> 0:12:52.400 him some of my stuff and he's like, okay, cool, 0:12:52.440 --> 0:12:54.000 here's an open date for you. 0:12:54.120 --> 0:12:55.320 So yeah, it'll be fun. 0:12:55.360 --> 0:12:57.440 How does that go about then for you for an 0:12:57.440 --> 0:12:59.960 independent artist, like reaching out to somebody local, because I mean, 0:13:00.000 --> 0:13:03.520 Whiskey Jam is a local, national thing, but they're getting 0:13:03.760 --> 0:13:07.080 i mean pretty nationwide now. They're traveling with Luke Combs. Yeah, 0:13:07.240 --> 0:13:09.679 you know, doing opening acts for him. Do you just 0:13:09.960 --> 0:13:12.040 literally just email or message war So. 0:13:12.160 --> 0:13:16.160 I emailed a bunch of different venues to play and 0:13:16.200 --> 0:13:21.840 nobody responded. Then I messaged Whiskey Jam on Instagram and 0:13:21.880 --> 0:13:24.840 then they responded and it was a yeah ward. So 0:13:25.360 --> 0:13:27.360 he was like here, text me, here's my number, and 0:13:27.440 --> 0:13:30.760 so I just hit him up and but yeah, just 0:13:30.800 --> 0:13:33.480 again all on social media crazy. 0:13:33.320 --> 0:13:35.400 That's awesome. And then just welcome you with open arms, 0:13:35.440 --> 0:13:37.600 like I said, just giving you a shot. Yeah, is 0:13:37.960 --> 0:13:40.600 really cool of him to do Whiskey Jam. I mean 0:13:40.640 --> 0:13:43.760 they're great. Everybody knows all their their stuff is really good. 0:13:44.200 --> 0:13:46.880 Have you had a moment, not even here in national 0:13:46.920 --> 0:13:50.319 because it's very new, maybe in LA where you thought, 0:13:50.679 --> 0:13:53.079 I don't know, music is something I want to do anymore. 0:13:54.120 --> 0:13:56.400 I never had a moment of I don't want to 0:13:56.440 --> 0:13:59.520 do it anymore. It was almost like, why is it 0:13:59.800 --> 0:14:04.040 not happening for me right now? It was never a 0:14:04.200 --> 0:14:07.120 moment of it's not going to happen. It's just like, oh, 0:14:07.160 --> 0:14:09.520 I'm just not at the place where I need to 0:14:09.559 --> 0:14:13.520 be yet. So I kind of but I've really tried 0:14:13.559 --> 0:14:15.520 to shift out of that mindset, and I think the 0:14:15.600 --> 0:14:18.680 minute I kind of let go and let things like 0:14:18.800 --> 0:14:21.680 I never thought that these story videos are a cooking 0:14:21.760 --> 0:14:24.520 video was gonna be the way that somebody would find 0:14:24.560 --> 0:14:27.640 me and listen to my music. But it just comes 0:14:27.680 --> 0:14:30.120 to show like you just have to try everything and 0:14:30.360 --> 0:14:33.320 just keep at it, and you never know how it's 0:14:33.360 --> 0:14:33.960 going to happen. 0:14:34.040 --> 0:14:35.840 But as long as you know that it will, it 0:14:35.880 --> 0:14:36.600 eventually will. 0:14:37.120 --> 0:14:38.520 How long did it take you to build up that 0:14:38.760 --> 0:14:39.800 social media following? 0:14:40.200 --> 0:14:43.800 So I've been doing it for years, as you know, 0:14:44.040 --> 0:14:45.960 just as all of us kind of have been on 0:14:46.000 --> 0:14:49.880 social media now. But really it's blown up the past 0:14:49.960 --> 0:14:52.200 year and a half. I'd say maybe just a year 0:14:52.520 --> 0:14:56.080 just about yeah really still really new. Yeah, yeah, it's 0:14:56.120 --> 0:14:56.840 pretty exciting. 0:14:56.920 --> 0:14:58.600 Still, it's not old yet. 0:15:00.000 --> 0:15:01.640 You've got to be exhausting, right, I've talked about this 0:15:01.640 --> 0:15:03.840 a couple of times on the pat on This podcast, 0:15:03.880 --> 0:15:08.920 and me personally, like I I don't post every day 0:15:08.960 --> 0:15:11.680 because it's just exhausting. But for an artist like yourself, 0:15:11.760 --> 0:15:14.360 like you kind of have to to remain relevant and 0:15:14.440 --> 0:15:16.240 to people will move on to the next thing if 0:15:16.280 --> 0:15:18.280 you don't post for a week or whatever it is. Yeah, 0:15:18.320 --> 0:15:19.440 that's got to be exhausting. 0:15:19.760 --> 0:15:23.200 It's super exhausting and it takes it's hard to balance 0:15:23.320 --> 0:15:27.400 creating music and creating content, and you have to realize 0:15:27.400 --> 0:15:29.760 that that's just the age we live in. And when 0:15:29.800 --> 0:15:33.600 you get over that hump in your mind, then you 0:15:33.720 --> 0:15:35.760 kind of realize, well, the only way people are going 0:15:35.800 --> 0:15:37.640 to listen to the music that I want people to 0:15:37.680 --> 0:15:39.800 listen to is if I do the work, which is 0:15:39.840 --> 0:15:41.320 to create the content kind of thing. 0:15:41.400 --> 0:15:43.400 So, yeah, it's funny that you say that, because a 0:15:43.440 --> 0:15:45.080 few people have said that one here where they're like 0:15:45.120 --> 0:15:46.920 it just they just kept doing it and doing it 0:15:46.960 --> 0:15:48.840 and doing It's kind of getting out of your comfort zone. 0:15:49.160 --> 0:15:52.320 And then once you realize like it's okay, then you 0:15:52.400 --> 0:15:53.640 kind of just get used to it and it turns 0:15:53.640 --> 0:15:54.800 into a routine almost. 0:15:55.040 --> 0:15:55.360 Yeah. 0:15:55.520 --> 0:15:57.600 Yeah, and obviously. 0:15:57.200 --> 0:16:00.520 Start to think in terms of you know, just I 0:16:00.600 --> 0:16:02.800 have to record this video today and you have like 0:16:02.840 --> 0:16:04.760 a schedule and it's like a whole thing. 0:16:05.880 --> 0:16:07.960 What does it you come up with all the ideas. 0:16:08.120 --> 0:16:09.520 I mean, are you laying there, are you waking up 0:16:09.560 --> 0:16:11.240 in the middle of the night, kind of like songwriting, 0:16:11.280 --> 0:16:13.120 where you wake up with this idea and you're like, 0:16:13.120 --> 0:16:14.240 I got to film this tomorrow. 0:16:14.760 --> 0:16:18.920 Yeah, Like I'll get an idea and I'll write it down. 0:16:19.120 --> 0:16:21.960 It's like a I don't. I'm not a very organized person. 0:16:22.080 --> 0:16:25.080 So I have like one note with like a million ideas, 0:16:25.080 --> 0:16:25.800 and half of. 0:16:25.760 --> 0:16:27.760 Them I don't even know what I was saying. So 0:16:28.520 --> 0:16:30.280 probably a lot of missed opportunities. 0:16:30.320 --> 0:16:33.640 But yeah, just kind of anything that you think of, 0:16:33.920 --> 0:16:35.680 anything that I think of, I just write it down 0:16:35.720 --> 0:16:37.400 and if I want to do it, I do. If not, 0:16:37.520 --> 0:16:39.920 then no, it's a good try move. 0:16:40.960 --> 0:16:43.280 What do you enjoy more making music or cooking videos? 0:16:43.360 --> 0:16:45.760 Oh gosh, no, definitely making music. 0:16:46.240 --> 0:16:47.160 It's just making sure. 0:16:47.360 --> 0:16:50.080 Yeah, No, definitely music. I mean I do have to eat, 0:16:50.200 --> 0:16:51.840 you know, you got to eat, so might as well 0:16:51.880 --> 0:16:52.320 record it. 0:16:52.560 --> 0:16:54.560 That's the one thing with food is like everybody can 0:16:54.600 --> 0:16:56.320 relate to food. Yeah, find of like music, but in 0:16:56.360 --> 0:16:58.680 a different way, right, totally different way. You're feeding your 0:16:58.680 --> 0:17:01.520 soul in a different way, I guess. Yeah. Exactly, what 0:17:01.640 --> 0:17:03.720 are some of your goals out here? Then like your 0:17:03.760 --> 0:17:07.240 mindset coming in, what was your mindset coming in from LA? 0:17:07.320 --> 0:17:09.160 I'm moving to Nashville, and this is what I want 0:17:09.200 --> 0:17:11.080 to do, Like, what is that thing that you want 0:17:11.119 --> 0:17:11.919 to do or make it? 0:17:13.720 --> 0:17:17.840 I think for me, I moved out here because again, 0:17:17.960 --> 0:17:19.919 like what I was saying a bit earlier, the people 0:17:20.040 --> 0:17:22.280 that I was working with out here just kind of 0:17:22.320 --> 0:17:25.040