1 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 1: Welcome to Unsigned and Independent. And so this is a 2 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: show where Kickoff Kevin goes and talks to artists who 3 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:18,320 Speaker 1: you think they have something going on, they just haven't 4 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:20,600 Speaker 1: been discovered yet, right correct. And a lot of them 5 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 1: are spending their own money to fund their career until 6 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 1: somebody steps in to help them in whatever way that is. Yeah. 7 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 1: Would you say most are looking for like a record 8 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 1: deal or a publishing deal or most that you talk 9 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 1: to have one or both. 10 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:35,240 Speaker 2: I would say most are not like searching and seeking 11 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 2: for it unless the right opportunity comes along. 12 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 1: Thing that must be awesome, Yeah, because I was always 13 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 1: seeking for money. Yeah. I was like, I'll do anything. 14 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 3: What do you want me to be? 15 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:45,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, So tell me about Samika. 16 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 2: Samika has got the social media thing dialed down where 17 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 2: she has a couple outlets, a YouTube show and she 18 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 2: went viral for yeah show like a cooking kind of 19 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 2: like a funny little show. It's like little clips. 20 00:00:57,520 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 1: Here and there. 21 00:00:57,960 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 2: And then she went viral when she first moved to 22 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 2: thatville for cooking or for music, No, for music. She 23 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 2: made a video in her car where she went to 24 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:06,639 Speaker 2: the store and this guy said something to her, Welcome 25 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:09,039 Speaker 2: to America. Because she came from LA and it was 26 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:10,959 Speaker 2: just a funny video. You've probably seen him before actually, 27 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:12,320 Speaker 2: so and then she went viral. That's how I came 28 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 2: across her. So she's got the whole thing down. 29 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:15,960 Speaker 1: She is a first generation Indian America and moved to 30 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 1: Nashville earlier this year to pursue her music career. And again, 31 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:22,479 Speaker 1: this is very much about being good but marketing yourself 32 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 1: through social media through different ways, and all with the 33 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:27,639 Speaker 1: idea of leading people to her music. 34 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 2: Exactly. 35 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 1: Even if she's cooking a keysh it's to get people 36 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 1: to her music, exactly. I don't even know if she 37 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 1: cooks keish. 38 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 2: It's probably been on there, but I just. 39 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:37,400 Speaker 1: Said cooking akish. That's alliteration almost. 40 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 2: I don't even really know what Akeisha is. 41 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 4: You know what. 42 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 1: I've had some and I don't either. That's the thing 43 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 1: all right. Here she is unsigned and independent. It is 44 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 1: Samika here with kickoff Kevin Samika. 45 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 2: How are we doing? 46 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 3: I'm good? How are you? 47 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 2: I'm good? Good. I want to start this off with 48 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 2: how I came across you. Yes, of course, like so 49 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 2: many other things nowadays, it's social media. I had a 50 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 2: friend actually and me a video of yours. He's from 51 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 2: I grew up in California like yourself, which we'll get 52 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:08,519 Speaker 2: into a little bit. But I knew him from California 53 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:10,799 Speaker 2: and he sent me this video because you posted a 54 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 2: video about how you just moved to Nashville. Yeah. I 55 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 2: don't know how he came across it, and he's like, hey, 56 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 2: this video is funny. And it was a video of 57 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 2: you talking about moving to Nashville and somebody says, like 58 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:23,920 Speaker 2: you came, or you said I came from California and 59 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 2: somebody said what do they say? How did it feel 60 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:27,639 Speaker 2: to like be free or something like that. 61 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:28,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, he said. 62 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:31,080 Speaker 4: So. It was at a thrift shop and I just 63 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 4: I told the guy I was really excited that I 64 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 4: was here, and I was like, hey, I just moved 65 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 4: here from la And then he said, oh, Laurel, Alabama, 66 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 4: like I heard it's real nice. 67 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 3: Down there, Like, no, it's from California. 68 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 4: But and then anyway, he just said welcome to America, 69 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:51,239 Speaker 4: and I said thank you know, thanks sir. 70 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 3: But yeah, that video, that's so funny. 71 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 4: That video went so crazy and I really had no 72 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 4: expectation of it, and then it started something on social 73 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 4: media and how. 74 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 2: Many views have what's your latest number on that? 75 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 4: Honestly, I posted it everywhere, so I think on Instagram 76 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 4: it had like three and a half million. On TikTok 77 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 4: it was at three and a half almost four, and 78 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 4: then on YouTube some politician reposted it and it became 79 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 4: his most viewed video, and then I think that one 80 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 4: has like five or six million. 81 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:30,800 Speaker 2: No way, I know. It was so wild, So you 82 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 2: post that obviously it was. 83 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 3: Like a really nice, warm, welcome to Nashville. But yeah, 84 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 3: it's crazy, but. 85 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 2: You post that without expecting it to do what it did. Yeah, 86 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 2: So when did you, like, was it one of those 87 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 2: you hear about where you post this video, you go 88 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 2: to bed and you wake up next day and you're like, 89 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 2: holy crap, this has got over a million views. Was 90 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 2: it one of those or did you see it kind 91 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 2: of coming together or did it take a while like 92 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 2: some people just it kept going. 93 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 4: Like I went to the DMV the other day literally 94 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 4: I posted that video. I've been here for almost like 95 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 4: three months, and at the DMV, the lady at the 96 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 4: DMV was like, I just saw you on TikTok really 97 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 4: like this is a DMV. I don't look nice, Like, 98 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 4: don't say that. 99 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, So how many people have noticed you from 100 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 2: that video? Like so many, especially in Nashville. 101 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, especially in Nashville and New York. I went to 102 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 3: New York. 103 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:22,159 Speaker 4: Yeah, it just really helped people kind of also just 104 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 4: come to the page and see that I make music 105 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:26,840 Speaker 4: and all of the other things that I do. 106 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 3: So it was pretty crazy, though. 107 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, because that's how I always It came to you, 108 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 2: like I said, and then I saw your musician, listen 109 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 2: to your music and watching your videos, and we'll get 110 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 2: into some of your other stuff too. You make all 111 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 2: kinds of videos and all kinds of and it's intriguing. 112 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:43,479 Speaker 2: I mean, you do a great job at it. You 113 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:46,039 Speaker 2: have what over one hundred and ninety thousand followers on 114 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 2: TikTok one hundred ninety thousand on Instagram. I mean, you're 115 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 2: up there. And with all that being said, you've been 116 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 2: here for a few months, you said, three months, And 117 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 2: how is America? 118 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:58,919 Speaker 3: What they say America? It's been good, you know. 119 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 4: I first when he said that, I didn't really understand, 120 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:04,280 Speaker 4: and then now that I've been here, I'm like, Okay, 121 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 4: I had a little bit of a culture shock, and 122 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 4: I actually really like it though, everybody's been so nice 123 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 4: and so warm. Southern hospitality, as I'm sure you know, 124 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 4: is a real thing. So it's been good. It's it's 125 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 4: starting to feel a little more like home, which we love. 126 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:25,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. Did you move out here by yourself? I basically yeah, yeah, 127 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 2: And you live by yourself and you're doing everything by yourself. 128 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:30,159 Speaker 2: You're an independent artist obviously, that's why you're on here. 129 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:30,799 Speaker 3: Yeah. 130 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 2: What's the Nashville scene musically been like for you in 131 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 2: comparison to LA And how long were you in LA? First, 132 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 2: let's go on. 133 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 4: I was in LA for about six years, seven years, 134 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:44,720 Speaker 4: and I was there. 135 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:46,279 Speaker 3: I was from the I'm from the Bay. 136 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 4: And then I moved to LA for six seven years 137 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 4: and I was doing the whole music thing and then Yeah, 138 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 4: it's been interesting. 139 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 2: Out here, Yeah, interesting way, just. 140 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 4: Music wise, it's been really nice. I mean in LA, 141 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 4: I I was working with a lot of people that 142 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 4: it was hard to find people that kind of made 143 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 4: the same music I did. And I find it a 144 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 4: lot easier here to find. 145 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:10,720 Speaker 3: People like that. 146 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:11,919 Speaker 2: What kind of music is that? 147 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:15,719 Speaker 4: Just more live music because Nashville is kind of the 148 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 4: capital of live music, so it helps to have commonality 149 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 4: with the people who are making music. I think LA 150 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 4: is really good if you're into more like house music, 151 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 4: more DJ vibes, R and B hip hop, like, it's 152 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:35,679 Speaker 4: really good for there. I was just told to write 153 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 4: over beats over there. But here I get to take 154 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 4: my songs that I wrote on guitar and kind of 155 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 4: create something with other people here. 156 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:46,039 Speaker 2: So what moment did it hit you in LA where 157 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:47,840 Speaker 2: you said I think I need to move to Nashville. 158 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 2: Did you visit here before? 159 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:49,839 Speaker 3: I was. 160 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 4: I was coming out here every few weeks and for 161 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 4: weeks at a time, so it kind of was pretty 162 00:06:57,000 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 4: natural just to make the move. It was supermanous and 163 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:04,280 Speaker 4: it just I was here all the time, so it 164 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 4: kind of felt right. 165 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, And you haven't looked back since and three minuts. 166 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 3: I haven't looked back since. 167 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 4: I've been going to New York a lot, just because 168 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 4: a lot of my best friends live out there and 169 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 4: it feels a little more homy sometimes. 170 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 3: But yeah, I haven't gone back to California yet, So. 171 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 1: Not at all. 172 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 3: No, not yet. 173 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 2: Okay, you miss it. I do your family in the 174 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 2: Bay or in the Bay, Okay. 175 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 3: Yeah. 176 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 4: And then all of my best friends that I made 177 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 4: in LA, they're all still in LA so that way, 178 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 4: it's been hard to kind of meet or create close 179 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 4: friends here, but that's comes with just moving new a 180 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 4: new place. 181 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 2: And you talk about that on some of your videos 182 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 2: that you have on YouTube. So what's uh, well, you know, 183 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 2: a first, let's talk about a few things that you do. 184 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 2: You do a lazy girl series. Yeah, is that your 185 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 2: what started? First? You have a lazy Girl we'll first 186 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 2: explain the Lazy Girl series. 187 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's so random. Thanks. 188 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 4: So basically, I was posting all this music stuff online 189 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 4: and I realized that people don't really go online all 190 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 4: the time just to listen to music. So I was like, okay, 191 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 4: maybe I should start telling stories and doing other things 192 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 4: that I like. And I just posted one video on TikTok. 193 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 4: It was a lazy Girl doll. So it was an 194 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 4: easy way to make Indian food and it's just like 195 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 4: super chaotic cooking. I was burning food on the internet 196 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 4: and it just did really well and people really related. 197 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 4: And then I was like, okay, what else can I make? 198 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 4: And I didn't know how to make anything, and that's 199 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 4: why it's so chaotically wild cooking. But I do that, 200 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:40,840 Speaker 4: and yeah, it's crazy that that kind of started blowing up. 201 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 2: No, where did that inspiration come from for you? Or 202 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 2: was it just kind of winging it or. 203 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 3: It was one of my cousins. 204 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 4: I was visiting my cousin and I told her, like, 205 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:52,679 Speaker 4: I just I feel like I'm finally an adult, Like 206 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 4: I just realized how to make doll like one thing. 207 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 4: And she asked me how to do it, and I 208 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 4: was like, oh, don't worry, I'll make a video for you. 209 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 4: And then I made a video and yeah, I sent 210 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:02,679 Speaker 4: it to her and I'm like, here you go. 211 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:05,959 Speaker 2: And it does very well. I mean, when, like I said, 212 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 2: when I came across your page and I saw those 213 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 2: videos and I was like, oh, she does more than music, 214 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 2: and you see these cooking videos and then obviously you 215 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:14,959 Speaker 2: post quite a bit of those, so it's a whole series. 216 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 2: And they do they do well for you and they're funny. 217 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:20,200 Speaker 2: They're funny, So can you actually cook or is it 218 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 2: just winging things? 219 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 3: Honestly? 220 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:24,959 Speaker 4: Sometimes they come out good. I mean actually at the 221 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:27,200 Speaker 4: end there all is good. I kind of fix it. 222 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 3: But it's like a mess just the whole time. So 223 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 3: I don't even know at. 224 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 2: This point, And do you have somebody help you out 225 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 2: with those as far as filming and production. Yeah, yeah, okay, 226 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 2: that's funny. Go check out that's all on YouTube and 227 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 2: your Instagram. You can follow out Samika music. We'll get 228 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 2: to as well. Going back to music here, who were 229 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:49,080 Speaker 2: some of your inspirations growing up? I mean, did your 230 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 2: was your family involved in music? Is that where it 231 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 2: started at a young age. 232 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 4: So, my grandma's from my mom's side and my dad's 233 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:59,319 Speaker 4: side both sing, so I was always and my sister 234 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 4: sing super super well, my older sister, and so music 235 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:05,719 Speaker 4: was always a thing in our household. My mom was 236 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 4: an Indian classical dancer growing up. She did this dance 237 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:12,959 Speaker 4: called Gutuck, and we kind of grew up in dance 238 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 4: studios with Indian music all around. And then just being 239 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 4: raised in America, born and raised here, we grew up 240 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 4: with you. 241 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:22,959 Speaker 3: Know, normal radio station music as well. 242 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 4: So it was always around, and I just listened to 243 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 4: all different kinds of music, and so I think that 244 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 4: kind of translates into the music that I make now too. 245 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 3: It's a little bit of everything. 246 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 2: Did you have a certain artist or group that you 247 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 2: wanted to or that you admired as a child. 248 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 4: I loved like Avril Lavine, Kelly Clarkson, Taylor Swift when 249 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 4: she first came out, just all of so many different people, 250 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 4: and then there was like Green Day, Simple Plan, Good Charlotte, 251 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 4: all these boy bands, you know, like emo bands that 252 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 4: would come onto the scene, and so yeah, it was 253 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 4: a bit all over. 254 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:05,079 Speaker 2: Really yeah, and that's kind of what your music reflects. 255 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know where to really put. 256 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 3: I don't know either. People always ask. 257 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:11,439 Speaker 2: Me, right, which is a good thing. I mean, I mean, 258 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 2: it really is a good thing. It's good especially nowadays. 259 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:15,679 Speaker 2: I feel like with the social media and with the 260 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 2: people you're able to reach without even a radio play, 261 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 2: where as long as you put what you want to 262 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 2: put out there, people will come across your videos and 263 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 2: your music and whether it's with a lazy curl and 264 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 2: then they get onto your music kind of thing. How 265 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 2: has that been for you, just being able to use 266 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 2: social media to put the music that you want to 267 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 2: put out there. 268 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 4: Honestly, I've been doing everything myself independently, so it's really 269 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 4: freeing to use social media and decide when I want 270 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 4: to release a song and what content I want to 271 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:47,080 Speaker 4: create around it, and nobody's really telling me how to 272 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 4: do it, and I've gone through a lot of trial 273 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 4: and error to figure out what works and what doesn't, 274 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 4: and it's been really nice. Social Media is definitely the 275 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:01,079 Speaker 4: only way that I've been able to start to break through, 276 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 4: and I really don't know how anybody else did it before, 277 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 4: but it's been really helpful for me. 278 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:13,560 Speaker 2: Have you had any influences since you've been in Nashville yet? 279 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 2: People you've looked up to worked with it so far? 280 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 2: I know you're still fairly new. But the great thing 281 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:22,599 Speaker 2: about the city is I feel like if you make connections, 282 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 2: a lot of people are willing to help you out here. 283 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot of people and a lot of people 284 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:30,079 Speaker 4: are just so nice and just like as you said, 285 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 4: just willing to help and they know a guy who 286 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 4: knows a guy you know, and so all of that 287 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:37,320 Speaker 4: kind of starts, and that has started for me. So 288 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 4: it's been really good. 289 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 2: Are you playing anywhere out here right now? 290 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 3: I am. 291 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 4: I'm gonna play Whiskey jam nice And so I hit 292 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 4: up Ward who's like the guy in charge, and sent 293 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 4: him some of my stuff and he's like, okay, cool, 294 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 4: here's an open date for you. 295 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:55,320 Speaker 3: So yeah, it'll be fun. 296 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:57,440 Speaker 2: How does that go about then for you for an 297 00:12:57,440 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 2: independent artist, like reaching out to somebody local, because I mean, 298 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 2: Whiskey Jam is a local, national thing, but they're getting 299 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:07,080 Speaker 2: i mean pretty nationwide now. They're traveling with Luke Combs. Yeah, 300 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:09,679 Speaker 2: you know, doing opening acts for him. Do you just 301 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 2: literally just email or message war So. 302 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 4: I emailed a bunch of different venues to play and 303 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 4: nobody responded. Then I messaged Whiskey Jam on Instagram and 304 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 4: then they responded and it was a yeah ward. So 305 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 4: he was like here, text me, here's my number, and 306 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 4: so I just hit him up and but yeah, just 307 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 4: again all on social media crazy. 308 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 2: That's awesome. And then just welcome you with open arms, 309 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 2: like I said, just giving you a shot. Yeah, is 310 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 2: really cool of him to do Whiskey Jam. I mean 311 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 2: they're great. Everybody knows all their their stuff is really good. 312 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 2: Have you had a moment, not even here in national 313 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:50,319 Speaker 2: because it's very new, maybe in LA where you thought, 314 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:53,079 Speaker 2: I don't know, music is something I want to do anymore. 315 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 4: I never had a moment of I don't want to 316 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 4: do it anymore. It was almost like, why is it 317 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 4: not happening for me right now? It was never a 318 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 4: moment of it's not going to happen. It's just like, oh, 319 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 4: I'm just not at the place where I need to 320 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 4: be yet. So I kind of but I've really tried 321 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 4: to shift out of that mindset, and I think the 322 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:18,680 Speaker 4: minute I kind of let go and let things like 323 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 4: I never thought that these story videos are a cooking 324 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 4: video was gonna be the way that somebody would find 325 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 4: me and listen to my music. But it just comes 326 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 4: to show like you just have to try everything and 327 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 4: just keep at it, and you never know how it's 328 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 4: going to happen. 329 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 3: But as long as you know that it will, it 330 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 3: eventually will. 331 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 2: How long did it take you to build up that 332 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 2: social media following? 333 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 4: So I've been doing it for years, as you know, 334 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 4: just as all of us kind of have been on 335 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 4: social media now. But really it's blown up the past 336 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 4: year and a half. I'd say maybe just a year 337 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 4: just about yeah really still really new. Yeah, yeah, it's 338 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 4: pretty exciting. 339 00:14:56,920 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 3: Still, it's not old yet. 340 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 2: You've got to be exhausting, right, I've talked about this 341 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 2: a couple of times on the pat on This podcast, 342 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 2: and me personally, like I I don't post every day 343 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 2: because it's just exhausting. But for an artist like yourself, 344 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 2: like you kind of have to to remain relevant and 345 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 2: to people will move on to the next thing if 346 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 2: you don't post for a week or whatever it is. Yeah, 347 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 2: that's got to be exhausting. 348 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 4: It's super exhausting and it takes it's hard to balance 349 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 4: creating music and creating content, and you have to realize 350 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 4: that that's just the age we live in. And when 351 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 4: you get over that hump in your mind, then you 352 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 4: kind of realize, well, the only way people are going 353 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 4: to listen to the music that I want people to 354 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 4: listen to is if I do the work, which is 355 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 4: to create the content kind of thing. 356 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 2: So, yeah, it's funny that you say that, because a 357 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 2: few people have said that one here where they're like 358 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 2: it just they just kept doing it and doing it 359 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 2: and doing It's kind of getting out of your comfort zone. 360 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 2: And then once you realize like it's okay, then you 361 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 2: kind of just get used to it and it turns 362 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 2: into a routine almost. 363 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 4: Yeah. 364 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, and obviously. 365 00:15:57,200 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 4: Start to think in terms of you know, just I 366 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 4: have to record this video today and you have like 367 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 4: a schedule and it's like a whole thing. 368 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 2: What does it you come up with all the ideas. 369 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 2: I mean, are you laying there, are you waking up 370 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 2: in the middle of the night, kind of like songwriting, 371 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 2: where you wake up with this idea and you're like, 372 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 2: I got to film this tomorrow. 373 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, Like I'll get an idea and I'll write it down. 374 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 4: It's like a I don't. I'm not a very organized person. 375 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 4: So I have like one note with like a million ideas, 376 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 4: and half of. 377 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 3: Them I don't even know what I was saying. So 378 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 3: probably a lot of missed opportunities. 379 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 4: But yeah, just kind of anything that you think of, 380 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 4: anything that I think of, I just write it down 381 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 4: and if I want to do it, I do. If not, 382 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 4: then no, it's a good try move. 383 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 2: What do you enjoy more making music or cooking videos? 384 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 3: Oh gosh, no, definitely making music. 385 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 2: It's just making sure. 386 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, No, definitely music. I mean I do have to eat, 387 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 3: you know, you got to eat, so might as well 388 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 3: record it. 389 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 2: That's the one thing with food is like everybody can 390 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 2: relate to food. Yeah, find of like music, but in 391 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 2: a different way, right, totally different way. You're feeding your 392 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 2: soul in a different way, I guess. Yeah. Exactly, what 393 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 2: are some of your goals out here? Then like your 394 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 2: mindset coming in, what was your mindset coming in from LA? 395 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:09,160 Speaker 2: I'm moving to Nashville, and this is what I want 396 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 2: to do, Like, what is that thing that you want 397 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:11,919 Speaker 2: to do or make it? 398 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 4: I think for me, I moved out here because again, 399 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:19,919 Speaker 4: like what I was saying a bit earlier, the people 400 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 4: that I was working with out here just kind of 401 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 4: got it, and I've kind of struggled. 402 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:25,920 Speaker 3: At least in LA. 403 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 4: I was writing songs on my guitar and I would 404 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 4: take them to producers and kind of say like, this 405 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 4: is what can we create something around it? And they 406 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 4: would say, you know, it's it sounds great acoustic, you 407 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:40,200 Speaker 4: should just put it out the way that it is. Like, well, 408 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:42,399 Speaker 4: I don't want to just put out, you know, just 409 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 4: me and the guitar. I want to actually build something 410 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 4: kind of epic around it. But at least for me here, 411 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:53,960 Speaker 4: I just want to meet a bunch of great songwriters 412 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:56,399 Speaker 4: producers and just work with as many people as I 413 00:17:56,440 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 4: can and really grow my craft and feel like when 414 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 4: I do walk into the room that you know, I 415 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 4: can hold my own and be at that level of 416 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:08,399 Speaker 4: just making great music. 417 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 3: That's definitely a goal of mine. 418 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 2: Do you write all your songs I do. Yeah, Okay, 419 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 2: where does that? Does that come from? Life experiences? 420 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 3: Yeah? 421 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 4: Just and also like dreams like you were saying, just 422 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:23,119 Speaker 4: like dreaming out songs. Yeah, a lot of life experiences 423 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:27,360 Speaker 4: a lot of just different things, you know, friends, stories 424 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:30,360 Speaker 4: that they tell me, kind of turn it into something. 425 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 3: Just all over really. 426 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:35,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. And do you wake up every or not every day, 427 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:37,920 Speaker 2: but you wake up different days and with some type 428 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 2: of inspiration and you know, kind of like a video 429 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:42,440 Speaker 2: content where you're just talking about and you start writing 430 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 2: stuff down. Yeah, is that where your songwriting kind of 431 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 2: comes from? 432 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 3: Yeah? It definitely. 433 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:50,640 Speaker 4: It just comes from sitting down and sometimes it'll come 434 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:52,120 Speaker 4: out in like thirty seconds. 435 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 3: Sometimes it'll come out in three hours. 436 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 4: But as long as you just sit there and kind 437 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:59,919 Speaker 4: of not fight it, it'll eventually it'll eventually happen. 438 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 2: Okay. And I want to go back to your family 439 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 2: a little bit here Indian heritage, Yes, And can you 440 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:10,879 Speaker 2: kind of explain that more because you know, Nashville you 441 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 2: got to be a different scene for sure. 442 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:12,640 Speaker 3: Yeah. 443 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 2: You're from the Bay, like you said, then, La, So 444 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:16,639 Speaker 2: what are your I mean, what's your parents? Your family are? 445 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 2: They're very supportive of you. 446 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, they are. 447 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 4: You know, I've been really lucky, I think because growing 448 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:24,960 Speaker 4: up my parents were always I was always a really 449 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 4: confused child on what I wanted to do because I 450 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:29,920 Speaker 4: told them when I was a kid that I wanted 451 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 4: to do music. And obviously, you know, what are you 452 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 4: going to do with a kid that wants to sing. 453 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:37,439 Speaker 4: It's like any parent would be like, Okay, well go 454 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:40,680 Speaker 4: back to class, you know, go do your homework, as 455 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:43,639 Speaker 4: they probably should. But yeah, I think they always kind 456 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 4: of knew that I wanted to do music, and I 457 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:48,880 Speaker 4: really felt like it was one of the only things 458 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 4: that I felt really good at and I knew it 459 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:54,120 Speaker 4: could be a thing. And I think when they saw 460 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 4: me take it into my own hands and kind of 461 00:19:57,720 --> 00:19:59,919 Speaker 4: do the work, it wasn't just me with a dream 462 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:02,919 Speaker 4: telling people. It was more like, oh, she's actually, you know, 463 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:07,399 Speaker 4: in her room writing songs and performing and putting up 464 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:09,960 Speaker 4: YouTube videos, you know, once a week, all of that. 465 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:14,120 Speaker 4: Then they kind of were more on board, and I've 466 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 4: been really blessed that they're super supportive. 467 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that always helps. Did you have a moment 468 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:19,879 Speaker 2: when you were a kid, like I've had people in 469 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:22,159 Speaker 2: here tell me a talent show maybe or something like that. 470 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 2: Did you ever have a talent show where you're but 471 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:26,879 Speaker 2: you entered and you're like, yeah, this is what I 472 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 2: really want to do and maybe a humbled you or 473 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:29,159 Speaker 2: anything like that. 474 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 3: You know, I did not a talent show. 475 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 4: But that's so funny that you asked me, because I 476 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:36,920 Speaker 4: actually I just am remembering this memory, but it was. 477 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 4: I was in a really private school up until seventh grade, 478 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 4: and it was just academic focused. It was not for me, 479 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 4: and I ended up going to a public school in 480 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 4: the middle of seventh grade where we moved towns and 481 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:55,199 Speaker 4: then there was choir for the first time, so I 482 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 4: joined choir and I was a really really shy kid. 483 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 4: So every Friday you would have to at least you 484 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 4: would have to at least sing a song alone once 485 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 4: and every Friday we would have opportunity to do that, 486 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 4: and for months I pushed it off until finally the 487 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 4: teacher was like, Okay, you have to, you know, sing 488 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:16,359 Speaker 4: your song in front of the class. And I sang, 489 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 4: and for months nobody even looked at me. And then 490 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 4: after I sang, everyone was like, whoa, you can actually sing, 491 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:27,199 Speaker 4: like you actually should be in this class. And that 492 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:29,359 Speaker 4: was my aha moment. I was like, oh, okay, I 493 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 4: think I'm like a good singer. 494 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:33,400 Speaker 2: Well, did you have doubts going into that, like did 495 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 2: you know or believe in yourself or did you need 496 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 2: to hear? 497 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 4: I think I was just like a kid and I 498 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:43,200 Speaker 4: always loved singing, but my sister was the one who 499 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 4: was really the singer of the family, and she had 500 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:49,199 Speaker 4: no fear, and so I was always kind of in 501 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 4: the back, like singing harmony with her, but she was 502 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:55,399 Speaker 4: always the one to sing in front of everybody, so 503 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:57,159 Speaker 4: I don't I think it was the first time that 504 00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 4: I was singing alone though, I was like, oh, okay, really 505 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 4: do that older sister? 506 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:01,639 Speaker 3: Older? 507 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:04,199 Speaker 2: Older? Okay, how has she been an inspiration for you 508 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:05,879 Speaker 2: or or mentor maybe? 509 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely she's still she sings, but not professionally in 510 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:14,399 Speaker 4: any way. She does at like family events and everyone 511 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 4: always bugs her to sing, but she's great. So yeah, 512 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 4: she's the first person that I always send every song 513 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 4: to and ask for her opinion because I know she'll 514 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 4: be brutally honest. So so it's good to have someone 515 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 4: who's like, yeah, you probably shouldn't release that one. 516 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:33,440 Speaker 3: So yeah, she's great. 517 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 2: She so who's a better singer. You know, I got 518 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:36,200 Speaker 2: to ask that. 519 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:39,160 Speaker 4: And I think we both have really different voices, which 520 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 4: is a very diplomatic answer, but it is very true, 521 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 4: and I know she would say the same. But hers 522 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 4: is like like, if you want like a Whitney Houston covered, 523 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:52,119 Speaker 4: that's just like pure belt and epic. She's your girl 524 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:55,880 Speaker 4: and I can do that, but it's not like at 525 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:57,439 Speaker 4: that you know, that level. 526 00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 3: But yeah, I think we balance each other out really well. 527 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 2: Okay, good. It's it's funny because you say that your 528 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 2: sound is a lot more soft quiet, and like you said, 529 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 2: you're all you don't have like a necessarily like oh 530 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:14,480 Speaker 2: I'm gonna sound country, I'm going to sound rock. Yeah, 531 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:16,879 Speaker 2: you have different sounds for each song, which is awesome too. 532 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:18,439 Speaker 2: And we're going to talk about an album that was 533 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:20,680 Speaker 2: just released. I want to play one track real quick 534 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:24,880 Speaker 2: called Red Ferrari and then we'll talk about its. 535 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 3: Tassara joun this. 536 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:33,679 Speaker 4: And re. 537 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 2: Okay, so Red Ferrari drove right up the sound in 538 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 2: Red Ferrari? What's that about? 539 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 4: Red Ferrari is a song about just kind of running 540 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:50,440 Speaker 4: away from your problems really and just. 541 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:53,680 Speaker 3: Kind of just leaving everything behind. 542 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:57,639 Speaker 4: And and being excited about the future and leaving small 543 00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:02,639 Speaker 4: town at home and kind of realizing that there's greater 544 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 4: things to come, and just living in that dream state really. 545 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 2: And speaking of leaving and greater things that come. The 546 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 2: album name is Laurel Canyon, Yes, which is in La. Yes, right, Yeah, 547 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 2: so I know that if you know, if you're from La, 548 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 2: if you know anything about LA, you'll know that. But 549 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 2: that's obviously on purpose. Yeah, you're done with LA, and 550 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 2: then red Ferrari. Is that you're leaving in a Red 551 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:29,199 Speaker 2: Ferra from LA to Nashville or what's going on? Why not? 552 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 4: Like, Yeah, I named it Laurel Canyon because all the 553 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:38,440 Speaker 4: songs I wrote were all in Laurel Canyon. And as 554 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 4: you probably know you just drive through the drive through 555 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 4: Laurel Canyon is one of a kind and and the 556 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,920 Speaker 4: history of Laurel Canyon is so iconic too, musically and 557 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,360 Speaker 4: in the seventies, and I felt like the music that 558 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 4: I made for the project really kind of fit that time. 559 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 4: It had like some sort of nostalgic era and sense 560 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:00,719 Speaker 4: to it, So it just made sense to name it that. 561 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:03,640 Speaker 3: And yeah, it was like an ode to Laurel Canyon. 562 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 2: In La in a good way though, right, Yeah, not 563 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 2: necessarily in a bad blood thing. 564 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 3: No, not at all. 565 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 4: It was it was more like just the place and 566 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:14,200 Speaker 4: time for where I was, and that it just made 567 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 4: sense to time stamp it to that. 568 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:18,399 Speaker 2: And did you record that out here though? Like you 569 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:20,160 Speaker 2: said you wrote, I recorded. 570 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:23,360 Speaker 3: Half of it out here and half of it in LA. 571 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 2: How do you? I mean, this is me just being 572 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 2: totally dumbfounded the whole thing. I'm not embarrassed to say that, Like, 573 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,120 Speaker 2: how do you record half of an album in one 574 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 2: studio and then another half in totally different state? Yeah, 575 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 2: so that's you obviously just buying out or getting time 576 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 2: or whatever in a studio to record this album somewhere 577 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:47,359 Speaker 2: and then a totally different state. Is that hard to do? 578 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 4: I don't know, yeah, I mean so that's why it 579 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 4: was kind of the EP first Laurel Canyon EP, and 580 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 4: that was all done in LA And I recorded that 581 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 4: with one of my friends, Luke Kylo and who's a 582 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:03,880 Speaker 4: producer out there, and we just we recorded all those 583 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,679 Speaker 4: songs and then we just never were able to reconnect. 584 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 4: I mean, he was always out of town at the 585 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 4: same time I was, and we just never had a 586 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 4: chance to finish out the rest of the songs. So 587 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 4: I kind of had to reach out to other people. 588 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:19,640 Speaker 4: And I had been dying to come to Nashville because 589 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:21,120 Speaker 4: I just heard so much about it. 590 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 3: And this was when I had no following. 591 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 4: Like I think I had maybe like nine thousand followers 592 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 4: or ten thousand on Instagram, which is still, you know, 593 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,680 Speaker 4: a good amount, but not anything compared to. 594 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:34,960 Speaker 2: Now, not one hundred and ninety two thous Yeah. 595 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:38,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, so a lot of people, know, nobody responded to me. 596 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,719 Speaker 4: To be honest, I messaged about like one hundred people 597 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 4: and honestly, just one one guy responded, yeah it's different now, 598 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 4: which you know, I don't know if I love or hate, 599 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:54,119 Speaker 4: but yeah, so this guy Ross, he responded and he 600 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,880 Speaker 4: I just I came out here and I just did 601 00:26:57,880 --> 00:26:59,639 Speaker 4: one the first song we did. 602 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 3: I it was like, okay, great, you. 603 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 4: Completely understand what I'm going for, and we were able 604 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 4: to finish the rest of the album. 605 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 2: Is that tough to find a producer to you have 606 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:11,960 Speaker 2: to click with him obviously, And I watched some of 607 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 2: your YouTube stuff when you were still in LA. I 608 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:16,440 Speaker 2: can't remember the producer's name off the top of my head. 609 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:18,879 Speaker 2: But you went to his house and you have to 610 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 2: have a connection, right, I mean, I know, as a 611 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:23,199 Speaker 2: producer in radio or whatever, it may be, like, you 612 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:25,399 Speaker 2: can't just meet somebody in two seconds and be like, 613 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 2: let's make a song together. 614 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's like a very spiritual kind of thing 615 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 4: and you just have to exactly, you have to click 616 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,880 Speaker 4: and you know immediately when you don't, like, you don't 617 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:38,680 Speaker 4: have another session with that versus. 618 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 2: So do you leave there saying like, hey, thanks for note, 619 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 2: thanks or do you wait till like a bit. 620 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,399 Speaker 3: Like all right, Like that was fun. It it was 621 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 3: as fun. 622 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 4: But yeah, like it just depends if you ever see 623 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 4: him again. 624 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:52,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess it's nothing personal. Yeah, what have you 625 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 2: seen since your success? So you just said, you know, 626 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 2: you've messed all these people, you didn't hear anything, and 627 00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 2: then now it's different. So what do you mean by that? Ever, 628 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:01,960 Speaker 2: since you've gained this huge following, do you have people 629 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,720 Speaker 2: producers and people around town reaching out to you know? 630 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 3: Yeah? 631 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:10,160 Speaker 4: Actually, funny enough, that's exactly what it is. And I'm 632 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:14,040 Speaker 4: really really grateful because that was one of the hardest 633 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 4: things that I went through, was trying to find people 634 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 4: to work with that wanted to work with someone who 635 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 4: you know, I I know that I can sing, and 636 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 4: I know my songs are good, but how will somebody 637 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,679 Speaker 4: somebody else if I feel like sometimes people need to 638 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 4: be told what's good nowadays and so but that's just 639 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 4: how it is. 640 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 3: Now, I guess. 641 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's crazy how fastic can all change. 642 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:37,200 Speaker 4: Right, I know, and I'm not even nearly at the 643 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 4: level that I'm hoping to be and my goals, but yeah, 644 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 4: I am lucky that at least people are reaching out 645 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 4: now and really nice people, not like some people I 646 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 4: wouldn't work with really good ones. 647 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 2: Right, what are your goals in? 648 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 3: I just I really want to go on tour. 649 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 4: So that's a really big goal of mine and has 650 00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 4: been for a really long time. And I love performing 651 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 4: and so I think that's really what makes the music 652 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 4: worth creating, is when you perform it live. And now 653 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 4: that I'm kind of starting to create a bit of 654 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 4: a fan base and people relate, I mean, I just 655 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 4: want to have that moment where you know, you see 656 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 4: people singing your songs back and you're like. 657 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 1: Whoa you know? 658 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 2: And I imagine you were a big following, you have 659 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 2: people reaching out, Hey, when you come into my sne 660 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 2: I do. 661 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 4: I do? Yeah, So, but I want it to be 662 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 4: like really epic because now I've waited long enough that 663 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 4: I'm like, Okay, I'm gonna do it. 664 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 3: I want to do it right. 665 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. So if you listening to this, somebody to bring 666 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 2: out on tour, Yeah, says Mika's here for you. But 667 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 2: it's got to be epic. 668 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 3: It's got to be epic. 669 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:43,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. 670 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 2: Well, let's close out on this then real quick. Like 671 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:48,720 Speaker 2: I said, you have a new album. We listened to 672 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 2: Red Ferrari. Is there another song single that's coming out? 673 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 2: And then what's going on in the new year? Anything 674 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:56,040 Speaker 2: planned as of now? 675 00:29:56,680 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, I do have another song called never Ever, and 676 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,720 Speaker 4: I shot a music video for it with another person 677 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 4: who reached out just from that Nashville video and he's 678 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 4: super great, and so yeah, that's coming out the next year. 679 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 3: I have no idea. 680 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 4: I'm kind of in this place where I just are 681 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 4: letting things happen, so I couldn't tell yet keep. 682 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 2: Putting in the work, and it all happened exactly. 683 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 4: Well. 684 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:28,600 Speaker 2: Go follow her on TikTok, Instagram, Samika Music, Samica Music. 685 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:31,440 Speaker 2: She's great, Her cooking videos are great, her music is great. 686 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 2: Stream her Samika, thank you so much for coming. 687 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 3: In, Thank you so much for having me. 688 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 2: Of course, love this episode of The Bobby Cast. 689 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 1: Subscribe on iHeartRadio, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts.