WEBVTT - Soviet Psychotronics

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<v Speaker 1>From UFOs two, Ghosts and government cover ups. History is

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<v Speaker 1>riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or

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<v Speaker 1>learn the stuff they don't want you to now. Hello everyone,

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<v Speaker 1>and welcome back to the show. My name is Matt

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<v Speaker 1>the the Actually my real name is Ben, and I

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<v Speaker 1>promise I won't do that accent anymore. Uh, Matt, I

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<v Speaker 1>can always tell when things are about to get serious

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<v Speaker 1>on our shows, whether it's our video or audio, because

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<v Speaker 1>you've got the uh e, you've got the E smoke going.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah, sorry about that. No, it's cool. It

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<v Speaker 1>reminds me of the caterpillar in Alice in Wonderlands. Oh wow,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the look. I'm going for. Caterpillar with a hookah?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that the That's that explains so much about our

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<v Speaker 1>profile picks that we're working on. Uh. We are talking

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<v Speaker 1>today about two of my favorite subjects, government secrets and

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<v Speaker 1>the search for psychic powers or just fringe science. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>we're fans that anything on the fringe. You and I

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<v Speaker 1>grew up loving The X Files, loving Twilight Zone, Outer Limits. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we even sat through a couple of the downer seasons

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<v Speaker 1>of Fringe. Yeah it happened. I'm on the fifth season.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, how are you still watching it? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of finished it. Okay, Well, please don't spoil it.

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<v Speaker 1>I won't tell me. Hey, I you know what, the

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<v Speaker 1>writers did a good job, good enough job spoiling our help.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't tell me that. Oh no, I'm kidding. It's it's

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<v Speaker 1>one man's opinion. But when we are talking about these things,

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<v Speaker 1>we naturally go to one of the coolest subjects we've

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<v Speaker 1>talked about in a while, which was the Soviet version

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<v Speaker 1>of mk Ultra. I mean, that's what we call it

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<v Speaker 1>on the show, right, Yeah, Well, it's also the Soviet

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<v Speaker 1>version of Project Stargate. Yeah, it's it's got a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of similarities to the weirdness that our own the U.

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<v Speaker 1>S Government was doing. Now, what was Project Stargate. Project

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<v Speaker 1>Stargate was basically, again trying to make psychic soldiers in

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<v Speaker 1>the US, trying to figure out a way to unlock

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<v Speaker 1>this weird mind body connection that was considered pseudoscience by

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<v Speaker 1>even a lot of people who were doing it. But

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<v Speaker 1>but they wanted to make sure that it wasn't real,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, so that perhaps we talked about in the

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<v Speaker 1>episode that if if it is real and we just

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<v Speaker 1>aren't spending the money to research it and one of

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<v Speaker 1>our enemies does, then we're in a whole heap of trouble. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And when we were talking about psychic powers, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know about you guys, I like specifics were specifically talking

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<v Speaker 1>about UM. One of one of the biggest things they

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<v Speaker 1>researched on the u S side was out of body experience.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it possible to train people to train soldiers or

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<v Speaker 1>intelligence operatives to travel remotely and to somehow perceive things

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<v Speaker 1>thousands of kilometers away viewing man? That was one of

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest pushes. Yeah, that's the term remote viewing. Ingo

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<v Speaker 1>Swan one of the biggest guys in this UM, and

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<v Speaker 1>I used to when I was a kid. I had

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<v Speaker 1>those Time Life mystery books that talked about Ingo Swan

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<v Speaker 1>at length. And it's interesting because Swan maintains that he

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<v Speaker 1>really has a legitimate ability to do this, and other

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<v Speaker 1>people have worked with him have argued the same thing,

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<v Speaker 1>but not all of them, And quite a few people

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<v Speaker 1>have said, well, the reason that this was shut down

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<v Speaker 1>is because ultimately we just found out that there was

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<v Speaker 1>no real ability to do this, or that even if

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<v Speaker 1>this ability existed, it was not applicable or used bow. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and it wasn't accurate enough, right, which is kind of

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<v Speaker 1>what um Sony was it. Sony kind said when they

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<v Speaker 1>shut down, there's their ESP program. Yep, true story. You guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Sony had an ESP program. That's the story for another day,

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<v Speaker 1>and they used it in in all of their CD technologies.

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<v Speaker 1>As we see, it's crazy it actually says ESP on

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<v Speaker 1>there you remember that having that No, that's perfect. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a good point because it's it's uh, it's strange.

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<v Speaker 1>We that's one of the things that you and I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't believe when we first started reading it. We were

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<v Speaker 1>convinced that ESP stood for some other acronym, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like Electronic Sound provider or something like that. Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 1>this this one was a real ESP program, and the

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<v Speaker 1>US of course had them as well. Uh, the Soviet

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<v Speaker 1>ideas were very friends. Um. Now, a lot of this

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<v Speaker 1>that comes to us comes from recently to classify documents,

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<v Speaker 1>and they are just the the tip of a red

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<v Speaker 1>iceberg here. Huh, you know, but they are. I just

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<v Speaker 1>I wrote it down earlier, so I wanted to try

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<v Speaker 1>it out. Uh. But these these programs, um, if the

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<v Speaker 1>information we're getting can be trusted began in nineteen seventeen,

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<v Speaker 1>which is the year of the Russian Revolution, so it

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<v Speaker 1>predates the USSR, and that's interesting to continue to two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand three officially, which is even more interesting to me.

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<v Speaker 1>And they did research in a different way. Their research

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<v Speaker 1>was meant to be a little more quantitative rather than qualitative, right,

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<v Speaker 1>so they measured the UM. They they wanted to walk

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<v Speaker 1>away with concrete numbers and compare and compile and realize, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>these pieces of data so that they could figure out

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<v Speaker 1>if there was really something going on. And a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of their experiments focused not so much on remote viewing

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<v Speaker 1>as they did on UM the idea of electro magnetic

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<v Speaker 1>or electrochemical fields. Yeah, yeah, exactly. That it's that that

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<v Speaker 1>free energy that's been searched for since we figure since

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<v Speaker 1>man has figured out that there is energy or there's

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<v Speaker 1>some kind of electricity or power that you can harness

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<v Speaker 1>in the environment, and there's so many people who have

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<v Speaker 1>looked for it and failed to find it, at least

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<v Speaker 1>in my opinion, Tesla arguing, yeah, and uh, we we

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<v Speaker 1>know that the we know that the government of the

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<v Speaker 1>time in the USSR was on board with a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of this stuff. And you can see some fascinating photographs

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<v Speaker 1>of devices that people have built with the idea that

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<v Speaker 1>they would harness this energy through things called serpan um

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<v Speaker 1>strange looking things. They look like thermos is almost. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>They had their cylindrical with these handles, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of them were strapped two people. Some of them

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<v Speaker 1>were simply held, uh. The idea being that if all

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<v Speaker 1>living things emanate this field in some way, then we

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<v Speaker 1>could build something that would aggregate and apply or direct

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<v Speaker 1>this energy. And they were directing it with the with

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<v Speaker 1>the hope of doing things like um, having plants grow

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<v Speaker 1>faster was one producing neurological effects, so having someone's brain

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<v Speaker 1>function be affected in some way, which is frighteningly vague. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, yeah, oh man, but that that would be

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<v Speaker 1>great if you could somehow really send out in an

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<v Speaker 1>enhancing intelligence ray with some device that was strapped onto you.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess you need a group of people and if

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<v Speaker 1>it worked the way they thought it would work, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they did think it was a cumulative effect. Um. But

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<v Speaker 1>they also they also focused on you know, this was

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<v Speaker 1>one of their most interesting areas of focus and something

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<v Speaker 1>that the US wasn't really focused on. They also used

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<v Speaker 1>these torsion generators. We do have to point out that

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<v Speaker 1>the Russians, or rather the Soviets at this time, did

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<v Speaker 1>have UH psychics that they would conduct tests on, and

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<v Speaker 1>those tests would be some of the same stuff we

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<v Speaker 1>hear in the United States. You know, Uh, the idea

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<v Speaker 1>of whether or not clairvoyance existed, which was not proven satisfactorily.

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<v Speaker 1>The idea whether or not there would be UM an

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<v Speaker 1>ability to predict the future also not proven very well.

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<v Speaker 1>UH telekinesis, which as much as I wanted to be real,

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<v Speaker 1>was not proven. Um. Again, if you believe that any

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<v Speaker 1>of those things truly are real right now listening to

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<v Speaker 1>this podcast, um. And I don't mean to sound like

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<v Speaker 1>an extreme skeptic, because I'm certainly not. As soon as

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<v Speaker 1>I have evidence that shows me that any of those

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<v Speaker 1>things are real, I'm down because I I want to believe,

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<v Speaker 1>just like the old X Files. But you should really

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<v Speaker 1>talk to or listen to James Randy because the guy

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<v Speaker 1>makes some really great points just about how he's offering

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<v Speaker 1>crabloads of money to anybody that can prove this stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that's right, Yes, the famous one million dollars for

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<v Speaker 1>proof of any uh psychic parapsychological or paranormal phenomenon by

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<v Speaker 1>James Randy and it's a little bit controversial. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd like to do a podcast on that maybe in

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<v Speaker 1>the future. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm gonna be totally honest

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<v Speaker 1>with you, though this is a part where we might differ.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that it is quite possible that in the

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<v Speaker 1>future we will come to understand a scientific x nation

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<v Speaker 1>or what we perceive, um occasionally to be psychic powers.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what I don't. I don't think somebody's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna go, oh, telekinesis is real and we just discovered

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<v Speaker 1>it in I think that's preposterous, but could be some

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<v Speaker 1>kind of fourth dimensional time distortion. Right. We understand so

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<v Speaker 1>little about the nature of consciousness, the nature of physics,

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<v Speaker 1>especially at a very small and very large level that

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<v Speaker 1>we are we we don't even we don't even have

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<v Speaker 1>gravity figured out. I mean, if you think about the

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<v Speaker 1>potential span of human history, my friend, we are still

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<v Speaker 1>in the dark ages. So I think I'm gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>a little more optimistic about it. We don't we don't

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<v Speaker 1>have the tools yet to discover the explanations behind a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of these things. Um, or the explanations behind a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of these reports. We do know that there are

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<v Speaker 1>quite a few mundane things that can explain stuff like

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<v Speaker 1>the feeling of deja vu. Has a fairly there's a

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<v Speaker 1>fairly solid theory of what happens in our brain that

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<v Speaker 1>makes us perceive that. Right. They didn't have this when

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<v Speaker 1>they were doing a lot of these Cold War experiments, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, they had some enemies we talked about the

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<v Speaker 1>Academy of Russian Scientists hated these programs because they, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>this was centralized funding. So they said, you government are

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<v Speaker 1>taking funding for real science and applying it to pseudo science. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>But there's a I think there was a bit of

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<v Speaker 1>cynicism in some of these programs. We do know that

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<v Speaker 1>the Soviets also sent people to UH Shanger Law to

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<v Speaker 1>out out to search the UH the steps in and

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<v Speaker 1>uh comb through Tibet for UM. I think propaganda purposes

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<v Speaker 1>more than anything else. I don't think they were really

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<v Speaker 1>out to discover some ancient secrets so much as they

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<v Speaker 1>were to discover some brilliant marketing. Yeah. That would have

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<v Speaker 1>been just a little icing on the cake if they

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<v Speaker 1>had actually discovered something crazy. Yeah, And there's an interesting

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<v Speaker 1>part here when we talk about this, uh, when we

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<v Speaker 1>talk about what they did discover, because here's the weird part.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't know remember any idea. Isn't that always man?

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<v Speaker 1>That is the case so often with us, just because

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<v Speaker 1>we there's so much information that's withheld uh from everyone

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<v Speaker 1>that we kind of get up against this wall. And

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<v Speaker 1>just for if you're a new listener perhaps to the show,

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<v Speaker 1>we really try to not speculate as much as give

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<v Speaker 1>you the information that is there and then you know,

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<v Speaker 1>go maybe a couple of inches over that line, just

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<v Speaker 1>to let you know what we think. There's uh yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And in this respect, there are some things that we

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<v Speaker 1>can say about Russian UM or Soviet research in these fields.

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<v Speaker 1>We know that, for instance, we know that both a

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<v Speaker 1>former defense minister and UH Prutin himself have talked about

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<v Speaker 1>the future of unconventional weapons. We also know that in

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<v Speaker 1>the West research on these directed energy weapons UH is occurring.

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<v Speaker 1>We know that the technology exists to give people the

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<v Speaker 1>sensation that they are hearing voices, which is freaky, right.

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<v Speaker 1>You haven me to that one, Matt that gives me nightmares.

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<v Speaker 1>We we know it's it's fairly obvious that the actual

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<v Speaker 1>bleeding edge or cutting edge of technology is several years

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<v Speaker 1>at minimum ahead of what the public thinks it is.

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<v Speaker 1>Like one of the latest revelations that just came out,

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<v Speaker 1>which will be a few weeks old now when this publishes,

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<v Speaker 1>which we posted to our Facebook earlier today, was that

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<v Speaker 1>the n s A doesn't need an Internet connection to

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<v Speaker 1>hack a computer anymore, just a radio signal, just needs

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<v Speaker 1>a radio wave and a will gadget about the size

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<v Speaker 1>of a briefcase that some unsuspecting dude is carrying around.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh but don't worry, it's not in the United States, right,

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry everybody else. Yeah, but the but the point we're

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<v Speaker 1>making is that it is completely possible that some of

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<v Speaker 1>this fringe research into really crazy stuff lead to applicable results.

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<v Speaker 1>I like the comparison. I wanted to ask you what

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<v Speaker 1>you think about this comparison. Met um so in alchemy

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<v Speaker 1>right way back in the dark ages, right them, the

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<v Speaker 1>weird hippie uh cultish father of chemistry alchemy people were

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<v Speaker 1>conducting experiments to see what would happen to try to

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<v Speaker 1>create life with a homolocus or it might pronounce that

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<v Speaker 1>yes and uh, trying to explain magic in some ways

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<v Speaker 1>trying to change everything into gold and all that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of stuff. Um. And in most cases, these alchemists did

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<v Speaker 1>not discover what they thought they were discovering, but they

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<v Speaker 1>discovered other things because they were curious and they didn't

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<v Speaker 1>mind getting their hands a little dirty and gold leafed. Right. No, really, Ben,

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<v Speaker 1>we really just need more curiosity, I think, yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>So they discovered things, not necessarily what they meant to discover,

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<v Speaker 1>but they did find valuable innovations because they were curious

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<v Speaker 1>and they were attempting to be methodical. I think the

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<v Speaker 1>same thing could happen here. I mean, history is lousy

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<v Speaker 1>with examples of people who accidentally discovered something while they

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<v Speaker 1>were doing something else, Like the guy who invented the

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<v Speaker 1>microwave didn't mean to cook food with it. That chocolate

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<v Speaker 1>bar just melted. Yeah, and we have just a small

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<v Speaker 1>inkling of what is actually being discovered. And we know

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<v Speaker 1>we bring up the active denial system right in in

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<v Speaker 1>our video and uh, it's it's freaky, it's pain ray. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>We still don't know what Russia might have on the

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<v Speaker 1>other side. And it's strange that governments could change but

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<v Speaker 1>the same documents would remain classified. Isn't it. Yeah, And

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<v Speaker 1>essentially it's so weird to me the idea that a

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<v Speaker 1>government would change. But your your armed forces are going

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<v Speaker 1>to be fairly similar unless they're involved in whatever whatever

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<v Speaker 1>uprising occurs to change the government if an uprising occurs.

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<v Speaker 1>So if the KGB just took over, yeah, I'm it's

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<v Speaker 1>really interesting with thinking about Sorry, my brain just went

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<v Speaker 1>somewhere completely different. But just the changing of guard between

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<v Speaker 1>different governments. Um, how much of that underlying research or

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<v Speaker 1>that underlying uh technology would still exist? And and I

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<v Speaker 1>would say that it probably would. Oh yeah, we well

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<v Speaker 1>we know that, uh, we know that in the case

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<v Speaker 1>of nuclear technology, um, there were proliferating nukes, and know

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<v Speaker 1>how that we're spreading around as NATO and Russia self

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<v Speaker 1>work to stop the transmission of those um worked finger

0:17:25.840 --> 0:17:29.680
<v Speaker 1>quotes stop finger quotes, but you know they made the

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<v Speaker 1>plight noises. We wanted to let everybody know that there's

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<v Speaker 1>a there's this great document that we read, Unconventional research

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<v Speaker 1>in USS are in Russia A short overview. It's free

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<v Speaker 1>online right now. You can just go and google it.

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<v Speaker 1>The author's name is Serge Kernbach. That's S. E. R. G. E.

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<v Speaker 1>And in this document you'll find a list of the

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<v Speaker 1>stuff that we know they tried, a list of the

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<v Speaker 1>funding and some of the notable scientists. Um. That's where

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<v Speaker 1>the rabbit hole begins. That's your own surface. You can

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<v Speaker 1>find much more interesting stuff in my favorite part about

0:18:09.119 --> 0:18:12.520
<v Speaker 1>that article or the pictures. Yeah, because that's what I

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<v Speaker 1>deal with, and I was able to use a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of them in our episode. Yeah, we're able to find

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<v Speaker 1>the serpan exactly. Um. And we want your thoughts on this.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think that government's continue psychic research? Do you

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<v Speaker 1>think it was a big financial boom doggle and people

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<v Speaker 1>were just paranoid. Do you think that you have evidence

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<v Speaker 1>of psychic powers? Because if it checks out, we'll hope

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<v Speaker 1>you win that million dollars. Um. But what we should

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<v Speaker 1>also put up a link on our on our website

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<v Speaker 1>that has uh has some more information about the James

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<v Speaker 1>Randy Price. I have a blog post about it from earlier,

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<v Speaker 1>so you can check it out there. Um. And the

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<v Speaker 1>very last thing I have to do, Mett, could I

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<v Speaker 1>read you some listener mail? Oh? Please do, he says, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>Ben and Matt, my name's Hugh. First off, I want

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<v Speaker 1>to thank you for providing a superlative source of irudition

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<v Speaker 1>regarding stuff theyn't want you to know. Nice prodigious appropriation

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<v Speaker 1>for the wide range of topics addressed, as well as

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<v Speaker 1>the obvious in depth research conducted. Uh. That was interesting. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks for stepping it up vocabulary wise there you. Secondly,

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder if you'd be interested in covering their knowing

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<v Speaker 1>complicity IBM played in the annihilation of millions of Nazi

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<v Speaker 1>concentration camp prisoners during World War Two. Now, this is

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<v Speaker 1>something that you and I have talked about before, right Matt, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>yes we have, and uh it's a It's another one

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<v Speaker 1>of those heavy subjects. But I'm interested as much as

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<v Speaker 1>you is. I'd like to tackle it as well. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's a great suggestion. Hugh calls it a slam

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<v Speaker 1>dunk topic at the risk of being romantic, and he's

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<v Speaker 1>got some great citations here about books written UH many

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<v Speaker 1>by Edwin Black UM. One that might be interesting to

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<v Speaker 1>you listeners out there, IBM in the holocaust of the

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<v Speaker 1>strategic alliance between Nazi Germany America's most powerful corporation. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>one thing that we do know about this is that

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<v Speaker 1>the UM the role of private corporations in the rise

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<v Speaker 1>of the Nazi Party is an ugly part of history

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<v Speaker 1>that is also completely true. We also, though there are

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<v Speaker 1>merit there were American sympathizers with the Nazi Party who

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<v Speaker 1>weren't just in in um highly placed influential positions of corporations.

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<v Speaker 1>But we're also active politicians with popular support UM. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, to be completely fair, in many cases, especially

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of politicians cases, they had no idea what

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<v Speaker 1>the Nazi Party was going to become and later go

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<v Speaker 1>on to do. But this is an interesting topic and

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<v Speaker 1>we love digging into the historical stuff. They don't want

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<v Speaker 1>you to know. How what do you think, mat should

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<v Speaker 1>we check it out? I think we we should. And

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<v Speaker 1>we're coming right off the heels of talking about the

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<v Speaker 1>eugenics programs that some Americans, with the help of some

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<v Speaker 1>moneyed interests like basically set up in parts of Europe,

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<v Speaker 1>including Germany. Oh yeah, that's an interesting detail for everyone

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<v Speaker 1>who hasn't seen our introduction video on eugenics in America. Wow, nice,

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