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Speaker 1: It is Monday, October twenty seven.

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Speaker 4: of the Jacksonville Jaguars. We've got Pete Briscoe and Austin

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Speaker 4: Lane coming up. The Jaguars beginning the stretch run this week.

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Speaker 4: Ten games to go after the bye week. Offensive questions

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Speaker 4: coming out of the by defensive injury updates. The coach

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Speaker 4: didn't give much today, but they were out there practicing

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Speaker 4: a little bit, some guys off the side. We'll keep

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Speaker 4: it real as always. Fan questions on social media and

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Speaker 4: we'll go around the National Football League. Well, former Jack's

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Speaker 4: defense been Austin Lane and studio with Think you to

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Speaker 4: see you.

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Speaker 1: I think the show for like a month. I know

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Speaker 1: man we haven't seen each other in a while. It's

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Speaker 1: been a minute. Peter from South Florida.

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Speaker 2: You got Wally Pitt last week?

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Speaker 4: I know, I heard the ratings were through the roof.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean you're not here. Me and Austin are

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Speaker 5: holding down the ford. I was in there and and

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Speaker 5: my god.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what are we doing? I don't know, man, I.

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Speaker 5: Mean you're Wally gagging all over London having a great

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Speaker 5: old time and we're actually.

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Speaker 1: Working jolly old England.

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Speaker 4: Hey, it's what it was. The flight schedules, you know,

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Speaker 4: couldn't get back, Pete.

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Speaker 2: That's what it is, and get on that team plane

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Speaker 2: JP or JP Shadwick.

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Speaker 1: Don't they know that I have I just work here, Pete.

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Speaker 1: Oh so you didn't fight out the team? No? Oh wow, okay, no,

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Speaker 1: I got flooring with the team. You don't have the show. Yeah, ok,

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Speaker 1: that's true. That's true. Alas here we.

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Speaker 2: Are, you're JP.

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Speaker 1: No, what are we doing?

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Speaker 6: First class wasn't available on the team planes. That what happened.

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Speaker 4: My contract says has certain levels and status that we

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Speaker 4: have to adhere to.

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Speaker 5: You need to put that contract. You need to be

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Speaker 5: on the team playing in London. That's what you need

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Speaker 5: to do.

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Speaker 4: It's all right, Hey we're back and that we're refreshed

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Speaker 4: after the bye week. You know, we've self scouted some

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Speaker 4: things Austin. That's just on this show. So then of

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Speaker 4: course the team has done the same thing, Pete, And

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Speaker 4: it's what.

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Speaker 1: The bye week's about? What? All right?

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Speaker 4: What is the number one concern or issue going into

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Speaker 4: the buy that needs to be cleaned up coming out

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Speaker 4: of the buyos?

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Speaker 6: You know, I think me and Pete kind of addressed

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Speaker 6: this on the last Happy Hour show, But I think

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Speaker 6: it's got to be this offense in Trevor Lawrence, right.

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Speaker 6: I mean you can break down a lot of things,

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Speaker 6: the offensive line, the running game and everything, but to me,

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Speaker 6: it starts with the quarterback, and it starts with the

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Speaker 6: confidence of the quarterback throwing the football. So I think

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Speaker 6: in terms of you know it, get to elevate Travis

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Speaker 6: Hunter to a more prominent role, whatever the case may be,

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Speaker 6: to give Trevor some more confidence.

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Speaker 1: But I think that is the major hole right now.

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Speaker 5: Turn it loose, Turn it loose. You gotta turn it loose.

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Speaker 5: You can't be afraid to throw interceptions. I mean, you

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Speaker 5: look at his interception numbers. What are they they're nothing.

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Speaker 5: Rights isn't thrown. Yeah, And so when you look at

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Speaker 5: the way he's playing, it's not to win games, is

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Speaker 5: to play.

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Speaker 2: It safe, and I don't like that.

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Speaker 5: And we highlighted a bunch of plays from the game

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Speaker 5: from the old twenty two last week, and the reality

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Speaker 5: is there were shots down the field he didn't take,

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Speaker 5: and there's been shots down the field he hasn't taken

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Speaker 5: all season.

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Speaker 4: We've said that from week one there were shots that

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Speaker 4: he didn't take well.

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Speaker 2: And in this game there they ran one play down

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Speaker 5: They ran post corner routes on both sides, and he

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Speaker 5: checked it down.

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Speaker 2: The ball was tipped at the line of scrimmage. The

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Speaker 5: He's got Travis Hunter standing there, and that was you know,

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Speaker 5: I think it was a run pass check if I'm

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Speaker 5: not mistaken, and he's that's who he's got to throw

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Speaker 5: it to in that check and he's wide open.

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Speaker 2: He doesn't even look at him. I don't know what

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Speaker 2: he was looking at. He looked like he was looking

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Speaker 2: for Thomas to come open. And that's not the read.

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Speaker 2: The read is Travis Hunter.

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Speaker 1: Five yards wide open, five yards down the field. Just

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Speaker 1: throw it.

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Speaker 2: On the first play of the game.

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Speaker 6: But this is also kind of the story I feel

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Speaker 6: like of this offense right now, where if you watch this,

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Speaker 6: you know, obviously a guy comes scott free and makes

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Speaker 6: it difficult on Trevor. But if you have this snap decisiveness,

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Speaker 6: you make that throw right now, and then we're not

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Speaker 6: talking about the offensive line, you know, giving up a

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Speaker 6: sack right So to me, it goes hand in hand

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Speaker 6: where you have to feel confident in the pocket, you

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Speaker 6: have to be decisive and you have to make your move.

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Speaker 5: That was Mcarrey that got beat on that play right

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Speaker 5: from the get go, if I'm not mistaken, And and

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Speaker 5: he struggled the last couple of weeks, and if you

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Speaker 5: hear that, he's banged up a little bit. But again,

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Speaker 5: you're on the field, you're accountable, and he's just not

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Speaker 5: playing very well.

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Speaker 2: I don't think they're gonna make a chain, but he's

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Speaker 2: not playing very well.

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Speaker 4: So what it is right now. Of course, we'll dig

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Speaker 4: into some more of the issues coming up. But as

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Speaker 4: always around this time, you were closing in on the

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Speaker 4: trade deadline, so the Jaguars were involved in some of

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Speaker 4: the rumors over this.

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Speaker 1: By weekend and.

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Speaker 2: The rumors, dirty rumors.

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Speaker 1: Brian sources, Yeah, not really sources.

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Speaker 4: Brian Thomas Junior was one of those rumors that he

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Speaker 4: could be on the move. Of course, Liam Cohen today

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Speaker 4: addressed it and said, no, we are not moving Brian

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Speaker 4: Thomas Junior, even though he is you know, he's fighting

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Speaker 4: through and working through some stuff here. So no no

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Speaker 4: action at least in that department. Now other things. Who

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Speaker 4: knows what else do they need?

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Speaker 1: Is the question?

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Speaker 5: Well, I think that report gets done this way. Somebody

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Speaker 5: we called on Brian Thomas, and then they put it

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Speaker 5: out there that the Jaguars were interested in listening on

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Speaker 2: That's I think happened on that. And the reality is

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Speaker 2: they're not gonna move Brian tom nor should they.

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Speaker 5: By the way, he's his second year player. He's not

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Speaker 5: even halfway through his second season.

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Speaker 2: We saw potentil.

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Speaker 5: Star you know ability last year, and you're gonna move

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Speaker 2: That would be the dumbest thing you could do. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: don't you need to get out of his bunk?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, But you don't move you don't give up on him.

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Speaker 6: Yet do you think and I agree, like this wasn't

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Speaker 6: James Gladstone a tony of a selling thing. Hey, you know,

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Speaker 6: like I got a scoop for you guys. You know,

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Speaker 6: take this and roll with it like that. That didn't

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Speaker 6: happen that There's no way, but Pete, could you see

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Speaker 6: in a world was maybe the agent of Brian Thomas

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Speaker 6: Junior's agent trying to you know, like maybe a team

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Speaker 6: because like so sometimes the job of an agent is

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Speaker 6: to make sure that obviously your your player is feeling

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Speaker 6: you know, the love and everything. And I think in

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Speaker 6: Jackson right now it has had It's been a hard

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Speaker 6: matrimony between Brian Thomas Junior and the Jaguars right now.

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Speaker 6: Whose fault it is we can go back and forth

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Speaker 6: with that, but like this season, it hasn't been the

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Speaker 6: best showcase for either side. So could this be a

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Speaker 6: case of an agent maybe trying to jump up a

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Speaker 6: little interest, not saying he's trying to move him, but

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Speaker 6: just get people talking about Brian Thomas Junior in a

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Speaker 5: I think it's more of the team the other teams

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Speaker 5: if I'm the Pittsburgh Steelers and I need a wide receiver,

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Speaker 5: clearly i'd put it out there.

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Speaker 2: If I'm the Buffalo Bills and I need a wide.

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Speaker 5: it down right away. No, they're not doing that, and

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Speaker 5: rightfully so. Now having said that, this kid needs to

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Speaker 5: start playing like he did a year ago or close

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Speaker 5: to it, and for whatever reason, and we talked about it.

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Speaker 2: A lot, it hasn't happened.

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Speaker 5: He's dropping balls, he doesn't look like he wants to

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Speaker 2: And I think all that combined has led to the

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Speaker 5: miss were we too high on the kid? Maybe he

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Speaker 5: just wasn't as good as we all thought he was.

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Speaker 5: He had drop problems at LSU. He double caught a

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Speaker 5: lot of balls last year, and so maybe we rushed

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Speaker 6: No, I mean, I think we all did. But I

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Speaker 6: think where the intrigue came from last year was his

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Speaker 6: whole thing out of college was this guy can only

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Speaker 6: run one route right. He's fast, he's tall, he can

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Speaker 6: run a go route, go up and get a jump ball,

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Speaker 6: on the go route right, and like that was what

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Speaker 6: he was known for. He comes to Jacksonville and gets

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Speaker 6: Trevor gets hurt, the mac Jones comes in and all

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Speaker 6: of a sudden, Okay, this guy can run the route

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Speaker 6: to showcase, well, can you run every single route in

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Speaker 6: the book, And he showed last year that he could.

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Speaker 6: Now we can go back and watch the film and say, okay, well,

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Speaker 6: maybe the hands weren't perfect, maybe he did bobble some balls,

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Speaker 6: but he still caught him. So, like you know, we

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Speaker 6: kind of lost that in translation. But I think his

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Speaker 6: biggest knock last year he showcased he can handle. Now

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Speaker 6: we enter this year and once again expected to run

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Speaker 6: the entire route tree because you're a wide receiver one.

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Speaker 6: And for the most part, I think he can still

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Speaker 6: do that. It's just the fact that you can't catch

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Speaker 6: the ball.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I don't remember a lot of over the middle short

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Speaker 2: He said, ho, ho, I can be that.

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Speaker 5: He's not catching the ball, he's not using his hands,

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Speaker 5: Well, it's also there's a school of thought that being

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Speaker 5: In training, can't be looked around that receiver room a

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Speaker 2: He's been a pro, he's done things the right way.

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Speaker 2: But what does he do when he gets on the field. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: Guys react to production. They react to what you can do.

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Speaker 5: You can be the greatest leader in the world. You're

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Speaker 2: He's what I should be following. He gets one catch

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Speaker 1: Up no takeaways last two weeks.

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Speaker 4: A little different feel when you don't have Devin Lloyd

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Speaker 1: So early leads helped this team early.

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Speaker 4: So where you know, where are they defensively right now?

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Speaker 1: I think right now if you look at.

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Speaker 1: The other half are still waiting to have theirs.

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Speaker 6: The Jacksonville Jaggars are dead last right now in quarterback sacks,

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Speaker 6: and I understand, like that's a number that sometimes gets

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Speaker 6: have to get the quarterback down. It's as simple as that.

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Speaker 6: If you see the teams right now in the end,

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Speaker 1: On defense, It's getting after the quarterback.

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Speaker 2: No interior pressure at all usually. I mean, that's the problem.

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Speaker 1: You'll see the Austin Johnson as well sometimes is in there.

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Speaker 5: But yeah, but they're not consistent enough to push the

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Speaker 2: I'm with you. You can talk all you want about pressures.

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Speaker 5: They always the analytics guys, well, pressures are more just

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Speaker 2: No, they're not.

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Speaker 5: There's nothing more demoralizing to an offense than throwing the

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Speaker 1: Absolutely? Are you getting paid off quarterback pressures? Absolutely not.

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Speaker 2: But here's the other part of that, Austin.

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Speaker 5: If you were getting five pressures and you were pressuring

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Speaker 5: you know, but where the Josh Hanes Allen's getting pressures

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Speaker 2: So it's it's not working.

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Speaker 4: They pressured into some arrant throws early in the season

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Speaker 5: So right, they haven't taken the ball away and sometimes

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Speaker 1: I was busy walking around London.

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Speaker 4: We're back in a moment. That's enough out of you

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Speaker 1: That's an important piece of what they do.

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Speaker 7: You look at the end of the last game against

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Speaker 4: and the Jaguars this week head to Las Vegas to

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Speaker 1: I think he's gonna have to handle more.

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Speaker 6: things like that, that has to get cleaned up. And

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Speaker 6: I think the more time he spends this offense, that

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Speaker 6: will be cleaned up. But it's apparent to me that

445
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Speaker 6: this is your wide receiver one going forward, this is

446
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Speaker 6: gonna be the guy that's gonna help out Trevor Lawrence,

447
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Speaker 6: I think, and give him a new sense of confidence.

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Speaker 2: I agree with you one hundred percent. It's his offense.

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Speaker 5: Now build it around him getting the ball. I love

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Speaker 5: this play getting them down the field.

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Speaker 2: They we haven't seen much of that. You know, a

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Speaker 2: lot of quick.

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Speaker 5: Stuff with him getting him in some one on one situations.

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Speaker 5: It's hard to cover him in one on one situations.

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Speaker 5: He's fluid, he knows how to run, and you're right,

456
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Speaker 5: the lining up and all that. The presnap penalties, he's

457
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Speaker 5: got to be better with that, as do a lot

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Speaker 5: lot of guys. But he's the now, he's the number

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Speaker 5: one offense and going forward, I think he will be

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Speaker 5: the focal point of the offense. But having said that,

461
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Speaker 5: and you said we'll talk about the defense later, I

462
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Speaker 5: think he should be playing more corner too.

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Speaker 1: Do both just play it all, Just go play.

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Speaker 2: It all, play it all. He's their best corner. He's

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Speaker 2: the best. He's their best receiver.

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Speaker 5: And I don't think there's any question when he plays

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Speaker 5: corner and he covers a guy and man the man,

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Speaker 5: he's damn good at it, so so why not play

469
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Speaker 5: him at both? All we'd heard all offseason was always

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Speaker 5: gonna play both?

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Speaker 2: Was so far he hasn't played both. Well, now's that.

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Speaker 2: Now you're it after the bye week.

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Speaker 5: Now's the time he has to be on the field

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Speaker 5: playing both. Starting corner, starting wide receiver, number one wide receiver,

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Speaker 5: number one corner.

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Speaker 2: That's who he is.

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Speaker 6: To kind of echo what Pete was saying about this defense,

478
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Speaker 6: where when you get turnovers that can mask a lot

479
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Speaker 6: of things, I think the same thing can be said

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Speaker 6: when you're winning football games. I think it masked a

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Speaker 6: little bit of what Travis Hunter was doing right because, okay,

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Speaker 6: this is your first round pick. You give up another pick,

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Speaker 6: another first round pick next year to get this guy.

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Speaker 6: And granted, maybe he hasn't been the most productive in

485
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Speaker 6: terms of an offense, but you're running football game, so

486
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Speaker 6: it was an issue. Now we see, okay, well this

487
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Speaker 6: offense is stagnant, this defense is giving up some big plays.

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Speaker 1: You have to use them on both sides of the ball.

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Speaker 1: But before you had the luxury of saying, okay, we're

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Speaker 1: winning football games. This is a marathon, not a sprint.

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Speaker 1: As long as we're winning, let's let's keep them under

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Speaker 1: raps a little bit. Let's slowly bring them along. Well,

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Speaker 1: you've lost two games now. In those two games that.

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Speaker 6: You've lost, they weren't your best showing, and now you

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Speaker 6: I think this is a must win game against the Raiders. Win,

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Speaker 6: must win, must after a bye week, especially against the

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Speaker 6: team that you're supposed to be.

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Speaker 1: This is a must win game, I think for the.

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Speaker 6: Morale in that locker room, but also for in terms

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Speaker 6: of wanting to go to the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: You gotta beat the Raiders.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't want to.

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Speaker 5: Here we go again, crap promiate in that locker room.

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Speaker 5: And so I'm in agreement with Austin on that. I

505
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Speaker 5: think this is definitely a must win. But back to

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Speaker 5: Travis Hunter, when you look at it on the grand

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Speaker 5: big you know, the big picture, you could have drafted

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Speaker 5: a wide receiver in that spot, Pat McMillan, Abuka or

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Speaker 5: whatever they would have been starting.

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Speaker 2: You would have been happy with him.

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Speaker 5: They would have been a good player, and you still

512
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Speaker 5: would have had your pick next year if you wanted

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Speaker 5: to draft a cornerback high corner, and they both would

514
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Speaker 5: in two years. Next year, they both would have been

515
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Speaker 5: started playing one will play corner, one will play wide receiver. Well,

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Speaker 5: you opted to go get a guy who is a unicorn,

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Speaker 5: as he calls himself, because you gave up those picks

518
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Speaker 5: to do it. Well, now he's got to play both.

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Speaker 5: Enough with the charades, it's over. He's the number one

520
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Speaker 5: wide receiver, he's the number one corner. He wants to

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Speaker 5: play both. He thinks he can play both. He showed

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Speaker 5: he could play both.

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Speaker 2: Go play both. Don't take him out not play.

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Speaker 1: I agree with you, Pete.

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Speaker 6: But also the argument's going to be, well, they weren't

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Speaker 6: asking for a corner at all during this past season.

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Speaker 1: Is draft right?

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Speaker 6: Like everyone said, okay, wide receiver, possibly, defensive tackle possibly,

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Speaker 6: But I didn't see a lot of people were reporting

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Speaker 6: that Jay was another cornerback because well they had Tyson

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Speaker 6: Campbell at the time. I think we all thought Tyson

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Speaker 6: Campbell could take a step forward.

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Speaker 2: One on the other side.

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Speaker 6: Well, I mean you bring in Lewis, which I thought,

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Speaker 6: you know, free agency, Yeah, make a corner, but like I.

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Speaker 4: Think Jorian might take a step at least.

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Speaker 1: I was pretty comfortable there.

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Speaker 6: I knew, Okay, if you get Travis Hunter, yeah we'll

539
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Speaker 6: see how he fits in on that defense and everything.

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Speaker 6: But people were expecting, I think a lot more from

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Speaker 6: Tyson Campbell and he didn't deliver. He gets traded away

542
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Speaker 6: and now we'll see what Newsom can do. But nobody

543
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Speaker 6: was really clamoring for that first round cornerback in last

544
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Speaker 6: year's you know, in this past season's draft, it was

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Speaker 6: all about wide receiver. Now I agree with you, though,

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Speaker 6: When if you're James Gladstone and one of the first

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Speaker 6: things you say about your first round pick is he's

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Speaker 6: going to change the game. You gotta change the game.

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Speaker 4: Was that going to change the game sitting on the

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Speaker 4: bench on defense?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Right?

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Speaker 5: I mean if I deal scenario right now, their cornerback positions.

553
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Speaker 5: You take the field starting cornerback, he's playing outside, Lewis

554
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Speaker 5: is playing the inside, and Newsom's playing outside. That's their

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Speaker 5: ideal scenario right there. That's what they should play. Just

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Speaker 5: play it that way.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you have, okay, you what's your other option?

558
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Speaker 2: Play Jones?

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Speaker 5: Play Monterrek Brown and look, Monterrek Brown fights, fights and battles.

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Speaker 5: I love the way the kid plays, but he's limited.

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Speaker 5: He doesn't run very well, and so there's a limit there.

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Speaker 5: And by the way, you have a safety in the

563
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Speaker 5: middle of the field doesn't run at all, and so

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Speaker 5: you know that's a problem when you have two guys

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Speaker 5: that don't run that well. And that's why I think

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Speaker 5: Travis Hunter needs to be on the field you need.

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Speaker 2: If you play.

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Speaker 5: Travis Hunter, you could play man the man in some

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Speaker 5: situations on that side of the field. You can bring

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Speaker 5: Winger down because he should be down more than he

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Speaker 5: should be in the middle of the field.

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Speaker 2: And then you could.

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Speaker 5: Play Murray in the middle of the field and you

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Speaker 5: could on the other side. That's what he gives you.

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Speaker 5: You know, Lewis could cover Manda Man. He could cover

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Speaker 5: Manda Man.

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Speaker 2: Those two guys give you and any help on the

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Speaker 2: other side, new someone needs help. I just think they

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Speaker 2: need to let him play both.

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Speaker 5: And now is the time you play him every snap

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Speaker 5: on defense and every snap on offense going forward.

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Speaker 4: Jaguars defensive talk, including Devin Lloyd, Trayvon Walker what their

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Speaker 4: status could be this week, we'll look around the AFC South.

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Speaker 7: Pass rush and coverage in terms of limiting explosives, but

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Speaker 7: also getting home a little bit more as well. So

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Speaker 7: you look at all those things and so much of

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Speaker 7: it goes into it. These guys did a lot of

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Speaker 7: work as a staff from a report and communicating that

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Speaker 7: now to the players and some of those things that

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Speaker 7: you want to end up getting maybe tweaked, but we're

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Speaker 7: not going to go and reinvent the wheel.

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Speaker 4: Se Liam Cohen, Jaguars head coach, coming out of the

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Speaker 4: bye week, met with a media earlier today and welcome back.

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Speaker 4: It is Jaguars Happy Hour presented by Jet Home Loans

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Speaker 4: from the Hyundai Studios the Middle of Electric Center, JP

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Speaker 4: Shadwick with Austin Lane, Pete Prisco down in South Florida

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Speaker 4: after the bye week the Jaguars head to Vegas. Four

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Speaker 4: out of the next five games are on the road

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Speaker 4: for the Jaguars. That happens with the London part of

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Speaker 4: the schedule sometimes when you have some home games, including

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Speaker 4: that one lumped together. This will be the long road

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Speaker 4: trip portion month month and a half or so for

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Speaker 4: the Jags coming up. And he was talking about defense

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Speaker 4: there and you said it earlier takeaways might mask some

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Speaker 4: of the issues that the Jaguars were having on defense.

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Speaker 4: We talked a little bit about that and Liam Cohen

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Speaker 4: mentioned it there. Pass rush could get home a little

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Speaker 4: bit more. What else on defense? Do you need to

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Speaker 4: see more out of this group?

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Speaker 1: Like?

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Speaker 2: What what?

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Speaker 4: But beyond the pass rush? Yeah, like what is what

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Speaker 4: are they missing?

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Speaker 2: See?

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Speaker 1: I mean I think we talked about.

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Speaker 4: I'm missing there. They've had a good year. I think,

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Speaker 4: oh no, no, for sure.

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Speaker 6: I think we talk about a defense like are they

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Speaker 6: physical and they have the right attitude right, And I

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Speaker 6: think when you have those those phrases, you look strictly

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Speaker 6: at what can they stop the run? I think they've

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Speaker 6: done a pretty dang good job of stopping the run,

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Speaker 6: So that's not an issue like last year that was

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Speaker 6: an issue, right, this year, it seems to be that

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Speaker 6: they know what they're doing there in the trenches, so

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Speaker 6: like that's not the issue. So I think that the

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Speaker 6: back part of it's got to be communication and it's

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Speaker 6: got to be giving up the big plays. Because if

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Speaker 6: you look at like that Rams game, and we talked

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Speaker 6: about this with me and p and everything, like, that

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Speaker 6: game could have been a lot worse than what it was, right, Like,

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Speaker 6: I think I think Sean McVay not saying took it

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Speaker 6: easy because you know, it's the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Everyone's got to do their thing.

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Speaker 6: But like, I think they could have threw the kitchen

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Speaker 6: sink a little more and it could have been a

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Speaker 6: fifty burger. On this defense, they were just they were

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Speaker 6: that in tuned and the defense was just giving up

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Speaker 6: too much when.

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Speaker 4: They came up in thirteen personnel to start the game,

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Speaker 4: and every run in three tight ends at I'm ben

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Speaker 4: throwing it to all of them.

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Speaker 6: I mean, but you know, when there's a minute left

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Speaker 6: in the half and you get a nine yard game

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Speaker 6: and then you chose to take a knee.

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Speaker 1: Let it go right, that doesn't happen.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was almost the mercy knee. Ye, Like the

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Speaker 2: old Lions in nineteen ninety five, did do it when it.

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Speaker 1: Was stick to somebody else?

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Speaker 2: You know, you're playing video games that jp.

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Speaker 4: T something else. So all right, that's one. Yeah, what

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Speaker 4: about it, Pete, what do you think?

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Speaker 5: Well, the secondary has had a lot of bus and

663
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Speaker 5: you know it was when Campbell was here, he had

664
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Speaker 5: some boss when you.

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Speaker 2: Know, getting winger the last two weeks.

666
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 5: Look, you remember I I praised him early in the

667
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 5: season as one of the most improved players on the team.

668
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 2: Well, the last two weeks he's been one of the worst.

669
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Speaker 2: He doesn't right, he's limited, and so they got to

670
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Speaker 2: do a better job of hiding them.

671
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Speaker 5: You know, you look at these plays and this one,

672
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 5: that one was not a penalty, but that.

673
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 2: Was a trouble call. But we could we could show

674
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Speaker 2: his plays where the tight end ran by.

675
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Speaker 5: Him a couple of different times where I mean, he

676
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:32,960
Speaker 5: can't allow that to happen.

677
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Speaker 1: I mean, look and for it, yeah, for him to

678
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 1: be wide open. That was another penalty.

679
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Speaker 6: But then there's another play where he gets kind of

680
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 6: brought up a little too much, thinks it's going to

681
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Speaker 6: be a run.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the tight end goes right by him in

683
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 1: the pass and he doesn't have happened the week before.

684
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Speaker 5: To remember, they got him in the week Seattle got

685
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 5: him with the tight end on the on the on

686
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Speaker 5: the over. So look, the bottom line is, we know

687
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Speaker 5: he's limited. That's it's just who he is. I mean,

688
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 5: he plays hall. He's a good player near the line

689
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 5: of scrimmage. He's a good blitzer when they blitz him.

690
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 5: He's a good solid run player. But he's limited athletically.

691
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 5: And when you're limited, that shows up and they attack him.

692
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 5: They've attacked him, Let's be real, that's what they've done.

693
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Speaker 5: They've isolated him and they've attacked him a little bit.

694
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Speaker 5: So I think that's one.

695
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Speaker 2: Of the bigger concerns on the back end.

696
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Speaker 5: And you know, where's Murray because Murray looked dinged up

697
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 5: in that game.

698
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Speaker 2: You know, he looked like he got a little dingdonite.

699
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Speaker 4: He was one that in the open media time today

700
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Speaker 4: was not out there either. So whatever that means would

701
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 4: add there will not be an official injury report today

702
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 4: that'll begin on Wednesday this week.

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Speaker 5: But there was Antonio Johnson in that spot.

704
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Speaker 1: He was out there today at least in the.

705
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Speaker 2: Open but he would be the one that would probably go.

706
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Speaker 1: Into the lineup, that's my guess. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, See this goes back to preseason when they lost

708
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Speaker 5: the rookie because they thought he might be starting.

709
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Speaker 1: Killing.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they thought Ransom might be starting, and you lose

711
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 5: him and then wingerd starts.

712
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 2: Out and plays well and then hadn't played as well.

713
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 5: And now with Murray, if Murray can't play, then you

714
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 5: got concerns there and Antonio Johnson has to go in.

715
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 2: So yeah, there's there's.

716
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Speaker 5: Concerns at that and Savage they said packing because he

717
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 5: was playing in concrete.

718
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 2: But that's a whole other issue, right.

719
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 4: Certainly on the defensive side, Devin Lloyd not in there

720
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 4: after the impact he had made early in the season.

721
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 4: That changed some things in the last couple of weeks.

722
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 4: And then we already talked about Treyvon Walker with the

723
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 4: one hand, Lloyd was off to the side in the

724
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Speaker 4: open media time today working with athletic trainers. I believe

725
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:38,480
Speaker 4: Treyvon Walker was out there at the time we were there,

726
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 4: which is a good sign. But we'll see what happens

727
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 4: because with a calf injury, I mean that thing, you

728
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 4: just don't know and you can't take any chances with her.

729
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, and they're definitely missing him too, because we want

730
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,720
Speaker 6: to talk about interior pressure and everything, like they've been

731
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 6: diving up some great blitzes with Devin Lloyd.

732
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Speaker 1: You know, I've seen him around a couple of games.

733
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Speaker 6: He ran with Trayvon Walker, Trevon Walker got home and

734
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 6: that's what he does well, right, That's what this defense

735
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 6: has to be about. We just talked about Dewey and

736
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 6: everything playing on the back end, Like, you know, I

737
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 6: think what Dewey does well is he does well stack

738
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 6: in the box and playing physical, right, Like, That's that's

739
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 6: what he does. That's his game. What Devin Lloyd does

740
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 6: well is this guy's not afraid to blitz. He's not

741
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 6: afraid to show off some pass rush moves. And he's

742
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 6: done a commendable job in terms of pass coverage as well,

743
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 6: being in the right spot at the right time and

744
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 6: making good on those interceptions and everything.

745
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 1: Now, not thirty yards down the field, but he was

746
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 1: last year. That's the difference. Yeah, Yeah, exactly, he's been better.

747
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 5: He's been a better player this year that he's been,

748
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 5: no question about it.

749
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,720
Speaker 2: But I'll say this, he still doesn't play the run.

750
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 5: As well as Miller's better against the run. I mean,

751
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 5: I think and even in the Chiefs game, Lloyd made

752
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 5: that play, but it wasn't a great game by him, you.

753
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 2: Know what I mean. But he's he's better than he was.

754
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 5: But I think we you know, I think people got

755
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 5: to slow the role on defensive played in the ear

756
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 5: and all that stuff was pace.

757
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 6: So Pete, the numbers are going to speak for themselves, Ryan,

758
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 6: like whether or not. Like, Okay, there's a bad throw

759
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 6: by the quarterback.

760
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 2: He's still he's been good.

761
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 5: But but you know, come on, Miles Garrett had five

762
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 5: sacks yesterday, winning Defensive Player of.

763
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 2: The Year over that guy. So I mean, but he's

764
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 2: been good.

765
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 5: He's been better, but he's still not great to get

766
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 5: He's still not a great run player.

767
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 2: He's you know, he's a.

768
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Speaker 5: Benro Miller played the run good the other day when

769
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Speaker 5: he played he played the run well, I thought, And

770
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Speaker 5: and they you know, if they had a comblo of

771
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 5: the two of them, the hell of a flair, right,

772
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 5: you could get Devin Lloyd and ventrom Miller together, Boy,

773
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 5: that would be a run thumper and a guy who

774
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 5: could call you know, run and chase and blitz. That

775
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 5: would be a perfect linebacker, but that's not who they are.

776
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Speaker 1: Could build a player.

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00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 2: Him there.

778
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Speaker 5: I don't think not having Devin Lloyd in there hurts

779
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 5: him as much as having a club on Trayvon Walker's arm.

780
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Speaker 4: Okay, the one armed the one armed defensive end. That's

781
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:02,479
Speaker 4: a tough one.

782
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 2: H he's a shell of himself.

783
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's you. You have one hand. I mean,

784
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:08,840
Speaker 1: you do one hand with anything.

785
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 6: It can be difficult, especially play in a professional football game.

786
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 5: You know, and you play you played in so talk

787
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 5: us through what what's that mean?

788
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:17,399
Speaker 2: Where you have one here?

789
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:19,240
Speaker 1: So the only time I've had to use a club

790
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 1: was in college.

791
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 6: That was my sophomore year, had some tendon issues in

792
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:24,320
Speaker 6: my thumb, had a club it up and everything.

793
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Speaker 1: And yeah, I mean you're you're essentially you're a.

794
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 6: Shell of yourself because it's so ingrained in you as

795
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:33,799
Speaker 6: a defensive lineman, hand placement, hand violence, ripping, shedding, all

796
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:34,400
Speaker 6: this stuff.

797
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:37,360
Speaker 1: When you put a club on, that goes out the window.

798
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Speaker 6: So it's almost like you're learning how to play the

799
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:43,399
Speaker 6: position over again what you've been ingrained in yourself since

800
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 6: you're in Pop Warner, Like you learn how to like

801
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 6: walk again basically, So yeah, it's it's obviously I think

802
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 6: it's hampering him a little bit. I was optimistic because

803
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:55,239
Speaker 6: he does possess power, and when you have when you're

804
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 6: a power rusher, I feel like the club can be

805
00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 6: a little beneficial as opposed to like working all these

806
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 6: different kind of moves and everything. But you are seeing

807
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 6: like he's he's not the same type of player at

808
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 6: that club.

809
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 2: On yeah and back.

810
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:09,239
Speaker 5: You know, twenty years, twenty five, thirty years ago, he

811
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 5: would have been able to use that club to hit

812
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 5: somebody across the head and get in rushed to pass.

813
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 2: So you can't do that anymore either. But you know,

814
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:18,360
Speaker 2: like he looped on one play and still got a little.

815
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 5: Power, and you show you saw his power. But once

816
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 5: he got there with the power, normally he'd be able

817
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 5: to get a guy off of him. But he doesn't

818
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:28,400
Speaker 5: have that hand to do it, and so that's a problem.

819
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Speaker 6: Well, and I think a question you could ask then

820
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 6: if he's having trouble on the edge of generating a

821
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:33,959
Speaker 6: pass rush move to get home.

822
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Speaker 1: I always felt like.

823
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:37,720
Speaker 6: Guys with clubs they did it a lot better playing

824
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:40,360
Speaker 6: a three technique or nose. Just the action happens that

825
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 6: much quicker, you can get around a little easier as

826
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:45,320
Speaker 6: opposed to a three step drop where it's one thousand

827
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Speaker 6: and one, one thousand and two, one thousand. Okay, pass

828
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:50,720
Speaker 6: rush move when you're playing defensive tackle, it happens quicker.

829
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:55,800
Speaker 6: So could you in theory use his speed, use his athleticism.

830
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 6: Hopefully he can turn his hips around and just you know,

831
00:35:57,960 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 6: hit a rip move or something and then get after

832
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 6: the quarterback because I feel like, go ahead, Yeah, we.

833
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,400
Speaker 5: Thought he could play inside there on certain downs anyways,

834
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 5: and he's big enough, he's powerful enough, he could do that.

835
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:11,719
Speaker 2: I'm not against that. I think you're onto something. You

836
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 2: gotta get him on the field because he's one of

837
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:15,760
Speaker 2: the few guys that can push the pocket.

838
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:19,759
Speaker 4: Right elite player club if you put him in the

839
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 4: right spot. Certainly we got plenty of head We're back

840
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:24,400
Speaker 4: in a moment AFC South and.

841
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 1: The kicking game. Some questions there over the last few weeks.

842
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 4: Another miss from Cam Little will get dig into that

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Speaker 1: By Jet Home Loans.

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00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 4: Welcome back in this Jaguars Happy Hour our JP Shadwick,

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Speaker 4: Pete Prisco, Austin Lane. Our First Hour presented by Jet

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Speaker 4: coming up in the second hour in about fifteen minutes.

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Speaker 1: Fan questions.

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00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:15,280
Speaker 4: Keeping it real, we'll go around the National Football League

855
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Speaker 4: as well. Let's get some special team thoughts as we're

856
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 4: going through kind of each each side of the football here.

857
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:24,320
Speaker 4: Coming out of the bye week, Self Scout the Happy

858
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 4: Hour Self Scout Edition field goal kicking. Another miss in

859
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:32,760
Speaker 4: London for Cam Little is fourth miss of the season.

860
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 4: I think that's tied for the second most of any

861
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:38,360
Speaker 4: kicker in the NFL. They said they're not bringing anybody

862
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:40,759
Speaker 4: in to compete. They're gonna go with Cam. That's what

863
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 4: it is, Pete.

864
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 2: But just miss this week, and I guarantee you they're

865
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 2: bringing somebody here.

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Speaker 1: I think, so huh.

867
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Speaker 4: I know your mantra with kickers all the time is

868
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:50,360
Speaker 4: just make your damn kicks.

869
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:55,400
Speaker 5: Right, But I get I get why you're reluctant to

870
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Speaker 5: make a change.

871
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:59,759
Speaker 2: The kid has an enormous leg, and so you see

872
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 2: the potential there.

873
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 5: And by the way, we've seen this play out all

874
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 5: across the league.

875
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:04,720
Speaker 2: Over the course of history.

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00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:06,919
Speaker 5: A guy has a big leg, This is a couple

877
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 5: of kicks, team sends a packing. Next thing, you know,

878
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 5: he ends up on another team and he's a good kicker.

879
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Speaker 5: I mean, Jason.

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00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 1: Myers say the same thing, absolutely.

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Speaker 5: And remember when Lambeau came from the Chargers. He had

882
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 5: a good year for Jacksonville that one year and he

883
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 5: was going bad in.

884
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 2: With the Chargers. So it's happened before, so you're reluctant

885
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 2: to do it.

886
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 5: But you go to Vegas this week and he yanks

887
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:34,360
Speaker 5: an extra point or misses a field goal, then I

888
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:35,759
Speaker 5: think you got to bring somebody in.

889
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 2: And I think he you know, And we talked about this.

890
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:43,279
Speaker 5: Last week Austin about how the seventy yard field.

891
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,800
Speaker 2: Goal might have been the curse and the blessing.

892
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:49,439
Speaker 5: It's great he made one, didn't count, didn't count at all,

893
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:53,240
Speaker 5: but he got the ball in Canton. But now everybody

894
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:55,359
Speaker 5: automatically assumes he's going out there to the bang home

895
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 5: sixty yarders. Fifty five yards with regularity and he's not

896
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:01,919
Speaker 5: doing it. So I think this is a big week

897
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 5: for one Cam Little. And by the way you talk

898
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:07,320
Speaker 5: special teams, the punter had been very good either.

899
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:11,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's usually a little more you know, accurate down

900
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 4: getting him inside the ten yard line and that hasn't happened.

901
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:19,240
Speaker 1: A lot, so, you know, without a doubt.

902
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 6: So with Cam Little, I am a little surprised that

903
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 6: they didn't bring somebody just for competition, right, because if

904
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 6: you go to that Rams game when it's fourth and seven,

905
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:31,439
Speaker 6: they had an opportunity to get points with the field

906
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 6: goal and they opted to go for it. Now, you know,

907
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 6: Liam Cogan said that was always the plan to go

908
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 6: for it with Trevor, but I don't think that was

909
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 6: the case. I think you had a kicker right now

910
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:42,839
Speaker 6: who isn't very confident and you're trying to make up

911
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 6: for it, and you're trying to do him a service

912
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:47,719
Speaker 6: by not putting him back out there when he's not confident, right,

913
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:49,759
Speaker 6: because if you keep on kicking and it keeps going bad,

914
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:53,359
Speaker 6: you just dig yourself deeper and deeper. At some point, though,

915
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 6: he has to get out of it, and at some

916
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:58,279
Speaker 6: point you're not going to be able to rely on

917
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 6: your offense to convert first down because let's be honest,

918
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:03,319
Speaker 6: that doesn't look great right now. So if you have

919
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:04,840
Speaker 6: to get points and you're gonna be playing it in

920
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:06,920
Speaker 6: close games like say the Raiders, or say that the

921
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:08,840
Speaker 6: Charters coming a town a couple weeks, that'll be a

922
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:09,319
Speaker 6: huge game.

923
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, it may be a three point game.

924
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:15,880
Speaker 6: You can't revolve your offense and your philosophy around Well,

925
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 6: let's just make sure Cam Little is confident enough now

926
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 6: that he can make this right, Like, let's help him out.

927
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:23,239
Speaker 6: Like you can't have a football team like that, Like

928
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 6: you have a job to do. You have to make

929
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 6: your kicks and either you can make them or you can't.

930
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:30,279
Speaker 6: But I'm not opposed to bring a competition in because

931
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 6: I think James Gladstone said it like every week's in

932
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,920
Speaker 6: evaluation and if someone doesn't fit this scheme, if someone's

933
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:39,239
Speaker 6: not up to the standard, they'll bring somebody else in.

934
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:42,400
Speaker 6: So why Cam Little got a pass? Maybe because he

935
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 6: had a seventy yarder and they're like, Okay, let's let's

936
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 6: invest in this guy a little more. That might be

937
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 6: the case, but at some point you gotta go hey,

938
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:50,279
Speaker 6: let's have a competition here.

939
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm with you, femises this week it is there's

940
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 5: no doubt that they have to bring somebody in next week.

941
00:40:57,920 --> 00:40:59,919
Speaker 5: But here's the other part of it. Not like good

942
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:01,239
Speaker 5: kickers are just sitting out there.

943
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:03,839
Speaker 2: It's at least they say that.

944
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 5: And I'm a big believer. You can find kickers. You

945
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:08,879
Speaker 5: can find them, you know, and just hope you get

946
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:10,920
Speaker 5: one that gets hot. You know what I mean, You

947
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:12,400
Speaker 5: just hope you get one that gets hot.

948
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 2: JP. Did you look up the putting stats because his

949
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 2: numbers are down too.

950
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 1: Yeah.

951
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 4: Logan Cook gross average this year is forty eight yards,

952
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 4: so that's fourteenth best in the league. He's seventh in

953
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:25,440
Speaker 4: net average right now at forty three point three, and

954
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:27,440
Speaker 4: he already has four touchbacks this year. There was a

955
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 4: year where he had like one the whole season, so

956
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 4: there's some of that. And the and the gross are

957
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 4: both down from his because he's usually right there at

958
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 4: the time.

959
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:39,360
Speaker 5: Deep snapper deep snapper has had some issues at times.

960
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:40,399
Speaker 2: He hadn't been as good.

961
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 5: They all went to did they all go to the

962
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:43,840
Speaker 5: Pro Bowl?

963
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 2: There's a couple.

964
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 4: I mean, there's like jerseys down there from all pro

965
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:50,239
Speaker 4: stuff for the long snapper too, So yeah, yes, yeah,

966
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:50,719
Speaker 4: there's that.

967
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 2: Those guys all got to be better. And here's the

968
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 2: weird thing about it. We talked about this last week.

969
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 2: It's the same special teams coach. Yes, so you know

970
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 2: what's going on on.

971
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 5: The one bright special teams thing that I think has

972
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:06,759
Speaker 5: happened is is Parker Washington's return. I mean, have one

973
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 5: called back that's never been called that should have never

974
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 5: been a block in the back.

975
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:12,479
Speaker 1: Whole block in the back. Sorry, yeah, yeah, yeah, yea.

976
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, it should have never been. He barely even blew

977
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 2: on him and they should have let that go.

978
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 5: And and uh, he's been good. But that that's about

979
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:22,320
Speaker 5: it though, right.

980
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 2: I mean, what what else are you getting? The special

981
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:25,719
Speaker 2: teams have not been what you thought they would be.

982
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 2: You thought that'd be a strength kickoff team.

983
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:29,840
Speaker 1: You haven't. It doesn't really stick out to you in

984
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 1: terms of, you know, pitting a team in the thirty

985
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 1: or twenty five usually coming out. So yeah, I agree

986
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 1: much teams have been down.

987
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:41,400
Speaker 5: And and the return game of kickoff return, what's what's

988
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:44,319
Speaker 5: uh what's his returns in the kickoff game.

989
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 2: He's had a couple of good ones, hasn't he Parker?

990
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he's been really like he's.

991
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 5: Here's what I can't figure out, though, Why did they

992
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 5: change that? Didn't they change the returners in the last game?

993
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 4: Well remember earlier in the year, it was it was

994
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:04,400
Speaker 4: a tank, big B, Yeah, big.

995
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:07,320
Speaker 5: B and somebody else because you have two back there. Yeah,

996
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:09,959
Speaker 5: but then the who had the return kickoff return?

997
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:14,319
Speaker 4: They put Brown and London that's right, correct, Yeah, and

998
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 4: he actually had a.

999
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 1: Couple of returns on kickoffs.

1000
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:18,719
Speaker 5: It was all right, it was, but who wasn't it

1001
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:20,879
Speaker 5: was Theammy Brown and who? Because look at the if

1002
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 5: you have the stash sheet there, who who returned to

1003
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 5: kick because it wasn't just him it was they changed them.

1004
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:28,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know Diami had a couple of decently long ones.

1005
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 1: I remember that. I'll find it, I'll find it.

1006
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1007
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 5: But again, these teams have started using running backs as

1008
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:38,799
Speaker 5: return man because they think the play looks more like

1009
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 5: a running play than a kickoff return.

1010
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 2: I hate that. I hate it. I don't think running.

1011
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 5: Backs have a natural feel for being returners, and a

1012
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,839
Speaker 5: running back by popped through the majority of the time,

1013
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:54,320
Speaker 5: the running back's not going to rip.

1014
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 2: It for a long return.

1015
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:57,279
Speaker 5: You know what I mean, he's gonna pop through and

1016
00:43:57,280 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 5: give you twenty five, ain't popping it and give you seven.

1017
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 5: So I'm a big believer in these teams. Got to

1018
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:04,800
Speaker 5: get away from the running back as return.

1019
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:09,719
Speaker 4: Then well we'll see what happens moving ahead. And maybe

1020
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 4: that's another self scout after the bye week, we'll see

1021
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:14,359
Speaker 4: what they throw out there in Las Vegas this week.

1022
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 4: Let's take a look at the AFC South standings after

1023
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:22,759
Speaker 4: yesterday's action. Now, the Jaguars, all right, they are still

1024
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 4: in second. But Indy at seven and one, two and

1025
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 4: zero in the division, they haven't lost in the conference yet.

1026
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:33,279
Speaker 4: It's a runaway train and Indiana Jones is leading the way, just.

1027
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 6: Like everybody predicted. I'll say this about Indianapolis. I feel

1028
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 6: like week by week everyone wants to say, okay, well

1029
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 6: wait till they play the Chargers. Well, they played the

1030
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 6: Chargers and they curb stopped the Chargers right like that.

1031
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:45,719
Speaker 6: There's going to be a point where you have to

1032
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:47,799
Speaker 6: give your flowers and your props to the Colts and

1033
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 6: say they're a solid team. And I think when you

1034
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 6: have arguably the best running back in the NFL right now,

1035
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 6: an offensive line that's playing very well, a rookie tight

1036
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:59,760
Speaker 6: end that is a mismatched nightmare, and some wide receivers

1037
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:01,440
Speaker 6: that are think are a little underrated in terms of

1038
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 6: their capabilities, and a competent quarterback that can lead them.

1039
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:07,239
Speaker 1: They have the makings to be.

1040
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 2: Uh.

1041
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 6: I think a pretty dang solid team that can make

1042
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 6: a run. And I think it's telling if you take

1043
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:16,440
Speaker 6: that Titans game on Sunday. They're supposed to beat the Titans,

1044
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:18,840
Speaker 6: like I'm sure Vegas had that what you know, supposed

1045
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 6: to beat the.

1046
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 1: Titans, but they blew out the Titans. And that's what

1047
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:24,239
Speaker 1: a good football team does. Like that.

1048
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 6: There's so much parody in the NFL where sometimes you

1049
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 6: play a team that you're supposed to crush and it's

1050
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 6: a competitive game.

1051
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 1: The Colts haven't really had that, like the teams that

1052
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:33,440
Speaker 1: they're supposed to be.

1053
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 2: The Cardinals game is the one they had, remember.

1054
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:36,840
Speaker 6: But yeah, but also I think that I think the

1055
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:39,800
Speaker 6: Arizona Cardinals is like they're they're a tough, physical team,

1056
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:42,359
Speaker 6: like on paper, they don't necessarily.

1057
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 2: Murray in that game. It wasset.

1058
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:46,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, the backup court, you should blow them out

1059
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:48,279
Speaker 5: and they ended up being in a game. But you're right,

1060
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 5: normally they've been blowing. They blow the bad teams out.

1061
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:53,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, And to be fair, that that Rams game.

1062
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 6: I'm sure Colts fans think about that Rams game like

1063
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 6: the Jaguars think about the the Bengals game. Like the

1064
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:01,560
Speaker 6: Colts should have won that MS game. To set aside

1065
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:04,319
Speaker 6: for Mitchell, you know, having the two bonehead plays, but

1066
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 6: the colt should be undefeated right now.

1067
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 4: I mean, the yeah, score two touchdowns in the last

1068
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:08,719
Speaker 4: four minute.

1069
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 5: Remember on the field goal that was they called for leaping,

1070
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 5: so you can.

1071
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:17,400
Speaker 2: But they beat up on a lot of bad teams.

1072
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:20,760
Speaker 5: But to your point, though, Austin, they beat that daylights

1073
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 5: out of those bad teams. They score and you know

1074
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:25,880
Speaker 5: when you score a lot of points, you know what

1075
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:29,279
Speaker 5: that does. It makes your pass rushers better. It makes

1076
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:32,840
Speaker 5: your pass rush better. I mean they're getting after the quarterback.

1077
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:36,320
Speaker 5: You know, Buckner on the interior has been good rushing

1078
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:36,960
Speaker 5: the quarterback.

1079
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 2: The edge guys are good and you can cover.

1080
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:41,719
Speaker 5: Up some things on the back end when you can

1081
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:43,879
Speaker 5: do that. So playing with the leads important. They're gonna

1082
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:46,760
Speaker 5: be a tough team to beat. The Texans look good

1083
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:50,919
Speaker 5: on Sunday against the forty nine ers. We know they're

1084
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:52,800
Speaker 5: good defensively. No matter who they play, they're gonna be

1085
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:56,480
Speaker 5: good defensively. But they got the offense going without Nico

1086
00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 5: Collins against the forty nine ers and.

1087
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:01,359
Speaker 4: The Jags get them in two weeks as well. Coming

1088
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 4: up on the road down in Houston, one hour down,

1089
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:07,399
Speaker 4: one hour to go. We've got fan questions, keeping it real,

1090
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:09,879
Speaker 4: we'll go around the league. All that set to come

1091
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 4: up in hour number two. This is Jaguars Happy Hour

1092
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 4: presented by Jet Home Loans.

1093
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:37,960
Speaker 7: There's an openness now to learn and grow from the mistake,

1094
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 7: and everybody can learn from that mistake. You're not correcting

1095
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:46,480
Speaker 7: the player, you're correcting the play, and ultimately everybody can

1096
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:49,719
Speaker 7: learn something from that. And then I thought Sean did

1097
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Speaker 7: a nice job of it as well when I was

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Speaker 7: in LA in terms of like, yeah, there's a standard

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Speaker 7: of execution that we hold and that we have and

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Speaker 7: that everybody is hell two and we're no different as

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Speaker 7: coaches and so we I just think that when you

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00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 7: can put a little bit on yourself and show like

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00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 7: guys like I got to you know, this isn't good

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Speaker 7: enough by me either, it continues to hold each other

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Speaker 7: accountable welcome back.

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Speaker 4: It is our number two of Jaguars Happy Hour. Of course,

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Speaker 4: that said coach Liam Cohen, and our second hour is

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Speaker 4: presented by mister Chubby's Wings before the game, after the game,

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00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:28,799
Speaker 4: and during the game. We're on ten TENEXL Jaguars dot

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Speaker 4: Com Jaguars YouTube. Coming off the bye week JP Shadwrick

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00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 4: with you. Here's the opening drive for Hour two, presented

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Speaker 4: by Target zero. Let's get everyone home safely. Of course,

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Speaker 4: the Jags coming off the buye. The Jaguars now currently

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Speaker 4: the seventh seed in the AFC playoffs. If they started

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00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 4: right now, it's before Monday Night football.

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Speaker 1: The Chiefs play tonight.

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Speaker 4: Looking inward at the bye week, that's what Liam Cohen

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00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 4: was talking about there. The Jaguars are among the league

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00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 4: leaders in penalties and drops on offense and offensively the

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Speaker 4: approach for Lawrence and the offense. Moving in ahead, we'll

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Speaker 4: get into that again coming up shortly. Can the Jags

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00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 4: defense get to the quarterback and can they get back

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00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 4: to taking the football away? Travis Hunter usage could be

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Speaker 4: going up down the stretch on both sides of the football,

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Speaker 4: and the stretch tron is year ten games to go

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Speaker 4: for the Jacksonville, Jaguars, Austin Lane, Pete Prisco with us

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00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:23,319
Speaker 4: as always here on Jaguars Happy Hour the Second Hour

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00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 4: presented by mister Chubbies.

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Speaker 1: So I liked what Liam Cohen said there about the

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00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 1: accountability part. Yeah, because there was a video clip of

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00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:31,759
Speaker 1: a team meeting right before.

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00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 4: The bye week that came out that was what was

1133
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:36,279
Speaker 4: referenced there today and he said, yeah, you know, I

1134
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 4: could have made a better play call here and showed

1135
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:40,640
Speaker 4: the play. One of the players, rookie running back, tried

1136
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:43,080
Speaker 4: to chime in, Coach, I could have done this. No, no, no,

1137
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:45,840
Speaker 4: that's fine. I appreciate it that this is on me.

1138
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 4: So shot out to the Jaguars fil peeling behind.

1139
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:49,319
Speaker 6: The curtain a little bit and showing us that we've

1140
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 6: been talking about the access.

1141
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:51,360
Speaker 1: It's great.

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00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 6: And listen, I've been an every single team that i'd

1143
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 6: been on, lines, Bears, Chiefs and everything. Like those conversations

1144
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:01,759
Speaker 6: have been had before, right where a coach gets in

1145
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:03,239
Speaker 6: front of his team and says, I got to call it.

1146
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:05,800
Speaker 1: Up better what I've never seen before.

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00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 6: And this is why I bin into what Liam Cohen's

1148
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:11,279
Speaker 6: selling here in terms of accountability. I've never seen a

1149
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 6: player speak in front of the room like that and

1150
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:15,719
Speaker 6: say I gotta do a better job.

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00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 1: And that was Allen quickly to the Quinn Allen.

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00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, And I've been in those meeting rooms where you

1153
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:23,360
Speaker 6: don't have a good game and you almost want to

1154
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:25,560
Speaker 6: sit down and say, like, don't don't show it, don't

1155
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:28,160
Speaker 6: show it right like you you want to hide, you

1156
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 6: don't want to like make yourself known. The fact that

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00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 6: you got a rookie there who it's his first year

1158
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 6: in the NFL goes you know what, I'm gonna take

1159
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:37,320
Speaker 6: accountability for myself and say I have to do a

1160
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:38,839
Speaker 6: better job than you know. It's like a moment where

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00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 6: Colin's like, I appreciate it whatever. Yeah, But like I

1162
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:44,319
Speaker 6: think it speaks volumes. When you have a rookie who's

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Speaker 6: still learning his way in the NFL to stand up

1164
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:48,279
Speaker 6: in front of the team and say I gotta do

1165
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:50,640
Speaker 6: a better job, that means that the message is getting through.

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Speaker 6: I've never in any NFL locker I've been in, I've

1167
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:55,239
Speaker 6: heard the coach say a million times, I got to

1168
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 6: call up better, I gotta do a better job in

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Speaker 6: the film room.

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Speaker 1: Never seen a player speak.

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Speaker 5: Up, though, I will say and you know, I said

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00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:06,240
Speaker 5: this before the season, we didn't know how he would

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00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 5: handle being a head coach, And as we come out

1174
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:12,720
Speaker 5: of the bye week, I could say with one hundred

1175
00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:15,279
Speaker 5: percent certainty from observing him.

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Speaker 2: Talking to people in that building, I think he's nailing it. Okay,

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Speaker 2: I really do.

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Speaker 5: I have been and I've been around this league a

1179
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:25,560
Speaker 5: long time, and I've been around a lot of coaches,

1180
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:27,480
Speaker 5: and there's a lot of bs that comes out of

1181
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:30,840
Speaker 5: coaches mouths, and they all try to be things they're not.

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00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 5: The one thing you can tell with Liam Cohne he's

1183
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 5: being true to himself, which is the number one priority,

1184
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:39,439
Speaker 5: because you know that Austin players will look right through

1185
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:42,080
Speaker 5: your garbage. You'll know it right away you're trying to

1186
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:46,480
Speaker 5: be somebody else. But two, the way he handles himself

1187
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Speaker 5: in situations. And I said last week on the show JP,

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Speaker 5: when you were here, the next two weeks we're going

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00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:52,480
Speaker 5: to be the most important.

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Speaker 2: Weeks of Liam Cohen being the head coach. The bye

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Speaker 2: week and the Vegas.

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00:51:57,200 --> 00:52:01,319
Speaker 5: Game, because you had two bad losses, you felt good

1193
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:03,960
Speaker 5: about yourself. You were the number one seed for about

1194
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 5: a sneeze, and we've seen that game around here.

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00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:09,000
Speaker 2: Before and then now you're not, and so I think

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Speaker 2: it's important. But the way he handles.

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Speaker 5: Himself comes across as genuine and he gets it now.

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Speaker 5: I love the access that the Jaguars give is better

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Speaker 5: than any team in the league, by the way, and

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Speaker 5: why shouldn't it be.

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Speaker 2: There are no secrets out there.

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Speaker 4: Just put it out there, the game plan out there,

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00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:30,160
Speaker 4: but everything a team meeting.

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00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:32,120
Speaker 5: Right, you're not going to put the game plan out there,

1205
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:36,360
Speaker 5: but everything else team meetings when it's not detail oriented,

1206
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:38,520
Speaker 5: you're not giving away plays and who to attack and

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Speaker 5: everything out.

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Speaker 2: That's fine.

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Speaker 5: Now having said all that, I love the accountability, but

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Speaker 5: now you're gonna get Prisco accountability. Oh boy, the Dann

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00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:54,839
Speaker 5: field goal. Liam Right, it was fourth and seven. You're

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Speaker 5: down twenty one to nothing. You've been flailing around doing nothing.

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Speaker 2: Why don't you kick the feat to make it twenty

1214
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Speaker 2: one to three?

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Speaker 5: And people said, well, maybe he didn't trust your kicker.

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Speaker 5: If you don't trust your.

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Speaker 2: Kicker to make a thirty five yard field goal, then

1218
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Speaker 2: you should have caught him after the game.

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Speaker 5: So there's my accountability on that.

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Speaker 2: He should have kicked the field goal.

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Speaker 6: Listen, And we talked about this last week. I mean,

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Speaker 6: I thought I wasn't going to do it.

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Speaker 1: I swore in front of my son on that play,

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Speaker 1: I'm in the fourth and seven, you drop the curse?

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00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:24,800
Speaker 1: I had to.

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00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:27,480
Speaker 6: How could you not? It's fourth and seventy. He decided

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00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:30,439
Speaker 6: to go over a quarterback run and didn't work out right.

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00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:33,200
Speaker 2: No, it actually was a pass and he scrambled.

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00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 6: Remember oh okay, yeah, correction, it was a pass. But

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00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:37,480
Speaker 6: he just had to scramble and you could tell from

1231
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:38,640
Speaker 6: the get go that he wasn't going.

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Speaker 1: To get there.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but he also kind of ran live at the

1234
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 4: end instead of diving the headlong.

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Speaker 5: Well no, but he also could have pulled up and

1236
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:48,560
Speaker 5: thrown to the ten who came uncovered on that play,

1237
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:49,759
Speaker 5: and he didn't throw it to him.

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00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:50,560
Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I mean, at the end of the day, whether or

1240
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:54,360
Speaker 6: not he was trying to stick up for Cam Little

1241
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:57,040
Speaker 6: and take some of the burden off of him.

1242
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Speaker 1: But Pete, I completely agree with you.

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Speaker 6: Where if we're talking about thirty five yard kicking, we're

1244
00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:04,800
Speaker 6: tailoring game plans now to try to make a kicker

1245
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:05,400
Speaker 6: feel better.

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00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:09,359
Speaker 1: I mean, what are we talking about thirty five yards?

1247
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:11,960
Speaker 5: I mean, and if you talk to Limb about it.

1248
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:13,960
Speaker 5: I bet he privately, I bet he was saying, I

1249
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:17,359
Speaker 5: didn't trust my dam kicker in that situation. But if

1250
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:19,480
Speaker 5: that's the case, then he can't be your kicker.

1251
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Speaker 1: You're stressing with that, then he's not gonna be kicking extra.

1252
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Speaker 6: Points because they're thirty three years There's plenty of kids

1253
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:26,080
Speaker 6: on college game made that are more than feasible.

1254
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:29,520
Speaker 4: I feel like, I mean, let's let's keep a place

1255
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:31,759
Speaker 4: about the same now too.

1256
00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 1: If you make one. Yeah, jeez, but he is.

1257
00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:37,720
Speaker 5: But I love the way he handles himself with the team,

1258
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:40,239
Speaker 5: and by the way, he also handles himself.

1259
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:41,080
Speaker 2: Very well with the media.

1260
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:47,279
Speaker 5: You know, he explains things, he's not stand offish with

1261
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:50,320
Speaker 5: the questions, and he doesn't get angry with the questions

1262
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:52,360
Speaker 5: even if they're coming in a direction where he probably

1263
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:55,000
Speaker 5: doesn't want him coming from. And I think he's smart

1264
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:56,759
Speaker 5: that way. But I think he's also smart the way

1265
00:54:56,760 --> 00:54:59,839
Speaker 5: he handles his team. And I didn't know that about him.

1266
00:54:59,840 --> 00:55:01,720
Speaker 5: You you never know until the guy's in that position.

1267
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:07,160
Speaker 5: What I've seen so far I am impressed with as

1268
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:09,400
Speaker 5: a coach who handles this team.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and it comes down to being genuine and now

1270
00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:14,919
Speaker 6: listen to talk to him in four or five years

1271
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:16,319
Speaker 6: and then let's see if he wants to give the

1272
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:18,040
Speaker 6: full access in everything, or let's see if he's a

1273
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 6: little burnt out by doing that. I mean, time will tell.

1274
00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:22,680
Speaker 6: But as far as your your first year is concerned,

1275
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:24,640
Speaker 6: And I said this one one of the very first

1276
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:25,799
Speaker 6: happy hour shows, Like.

1277
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Speaker 1: When you're winning, everything's fine.

1278
00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:29,759
Speaker 6: When you're losing, you're gonna find out what type of

1279
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:32,640
Speaker 6: coach who are really quickly, and I think so far

1280
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 6: his ability to stay genuine. And I think as the

1281
00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:36,720
Speaker 6: players will respond to that, because I'm gonna be honest,

1282
00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 6: it doesn't matter if you're a hard nosed, old school

1283
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:41,320
Speaker 6: throwback type of coach who wants to cuss all the time,

1284
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:44,040
Speaker 6: or you're more of a player's coach, Like players don't

1285
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:45,799
Speaker 6: care about that, Like they're all grown men at the.

1286
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:46,319
Speaker 1: End of the day.

1287
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Speaker 6: But what players are gonna see through is when you're

1288
00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:50,959
Speaker 6: not being genuine, when you're acting a certain way one

1289
00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:54,040
Speaker 6: day and then the next day you're acting differently, that's

1290
00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:56,160
Speaker 6: when players call you out. I mean, I've seen it firsthand,

1291
00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:58,040
Speaker 6: not in Jackson, but I've seen in other teams where

1292
00:55:58,200 --> 00:55:59,719
Speaker 6: players have no problem calling.

1293
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:01,600
Speaker 1: A coach out. If he's not being genuine, and I

1294
00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:03,400
Speaker 1: think so far, Liam Cohen's doing great.

1295
00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:05,080
Speaker 4: Examples, give us some examples.

1296
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:10,160
Speaker 6: Well, I mean I spent some time in Detroit. The

1297
00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:13,800
Speaker 6: coach of Detroit at the time wasn't doing the best.

1298
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:17,160
Speaker 2: And what was his name?

1299
00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:18,240
Speaker 1: Oh it was Jim Schwartz.

1300
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:22,279
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well Jim. Let me see if I could

1301
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:23,719
Speaker 2: describe Jim over the years.

1302
00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:28,200
Speaker 5: When I know Jim, Jim's ego sometimes doesn't fit the room.

1303
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:34,680
Speaker 5: M and you know he invented the game, right, it's

1304
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:39,760
Speaker 5: never his fault. Yeah, right, Well, I mean that's Jim Schwartz.

1305
00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:42,399
Speaker 5: Jim Schwartz is a good football coach, but as a

1306
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:44,960
Speaker 5: head coach, I can imagine if you're playing for him,

1307
00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:46,960
Speaker 5: it would be there'd be some annoyance to that.

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00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:49,600
Speaker 6: Listen, And I was only there for a short amount

1309
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:51,799
Speaker 6: of time, right, So I just kind of I came

1310
00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:54,959
Speaker 6: in the middle of the season, right, and we lose

1311
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:56,759
Speaker 6: to Tampa, Who's a team that we're supposed to beat.

1312
00:56:56,880 --> 00:56:59,760
Speaker 6: We get beat by Mike Glennon like you know, shreds,

1313
00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:03,960
Speaker 6: so like giant upset. Everyone's already ticked off. I remember

1314
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:07,680
Speaker 6: just going to the locker room and you know, my

1315
00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:10,200
Speaker 6: time there. Before that game, I felt like Jim was

1316
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:11,960
Speaker 6: more like a kind of a player's coach, kind of.

1317
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:14,719
Speaker 1: Like an easy going guy. And then we get in

1318
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:17,240
Speaker 1: the locker room and you know, there's waters being thrown

1319
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:20,120
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. And I won't speak on who

1320
00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:20,600
Speaker 1: the player was.

1321
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:23,040
Speaker 6: I'll respect the privacy of the player, but one player

1322
00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:24,240
Speaker 6: spoke out and said.

1323
00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:26,000
Speaker 1: You're not gonna do that anymore. If you do that again,

1324
00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:29,160
Speaker 1: we're gonna have problems, and like that that was kind

1325
00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:29,520
Speaker 1: of a rift.

1326
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:31,800
Speaker 6: This is just means being a bystander like hey, I

1327
00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:34,560
Speaker 6: just got I'm just right here and I'm and I'm

1328
00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:37,040
Speaker 6: coming to a family that seems a little dysfunctional, right,

1329
00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:39,320
Speaker 6: So like once that happened to kind of open my

1330
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:42,320
Speaker 6: eyes and seeing like, okay, you know, like if if

1331
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:44,200
Speaker 6: you're gonna try to act up and try to make

1332
00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:46,160
Speaker 6: a statement, it better come from being a place of

1333
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 6: genuine because if it's not.

1334
00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:49,800
Speaker 1: These these are grown men we're talking about.

1335
00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:51,920
Speaker 6: These These aren't college kids who you got to take

1336
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:54,120
Speaker 6: by the hand and going to class a certain time,

1337
00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:57,080
Speaker 6: like no, these are guys with families who won't be

1338
00:57:57,120 --> 00:57:58,120
Speaker 6: talked to like that, you know.

1339
00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:00,640
Speaker 2: See, And I think Liam will call out players if

1340
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:01,080
Speaker 2: need be.

1341
00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:03,919
Speaker 5: I mean, he might not do it publicly, but he'll

1342
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:06,920
Speaker 5: he'll do it, and he need you know, I mean

1343
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:09,440
Speaker 5: I think he's he's called it. Basically, he called out

1344
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:13,120
Speaker 5: Brian Thomas' training camp. Remember he did Miami.

1345
00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:15,440
Speaker 2: You were there, JP. He called him out on the

1346
00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:17,560
Speaker 2: podium over there when he was standing on the podium.

1347
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 2: So this is the this is the Brian.

1348
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:21,360
Speaker 5: Thomas we thought we'd see. We hadn't seen it so far.

1349
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:23,760
Speaker 5: It was nice to see basically called him out.

1350
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:24,840
Speaker 1: Anton Harrison as well.

1351
00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:27,000
Speaker 6: I think got a little bit of that treatment during

1352
00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:32,200
Speaker 6: the pres Yes, did you.

1353
00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:34,520
Speaker 2: Know it's a little different than like certain other guys

1354
00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:37,320
Speaker 2: have done, like Tom was, you know, you know that

1355
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:38,440
Speaker 2: was Coughlin, he was.

1356
00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:40,560
Speaker 5: It was not no subtle jab. That was just a

1357
00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:43,560
Speaker 5: right cross to your forehead, you know. And you know

1358
00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:47,120
Speaker 5: Tom called out. Tom called out Mark Brunell on the

1359
00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:49,760
Speaker 5: podium once and it led to a real problem. I

1360
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:51,880
Speaker 5: mean that that and then he called him out in

1361
00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:55,520
Speaker 5: private too, So there's ways to do it. I think

1362
00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:57,080
Speaker 5: so far Liam has done a good job. But you're

1363
00:58:57,160 --> 00:59:00,400
Speaker 5: right when it really like for example, if they were

1364
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:02,160
Speaker 5: to lose, and I don't think they will lose this week,

1365
00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:04,480
Speaker 5: But if they were to lose to the Raiders, then

1366
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:07,880
Speaker 5: we're gonna see what he's really made of for that

1367
00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:10,240
Speaker 5: kind of thing, because you're right, Austome, When it really

1368
00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:13,000
Speaker 5: starts going bad, that's when you test the real metal

1369
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:13,600
Speaker 5: of the head coach.

1370
00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:16,360
Speaker 4: By the way, did do we get like a sense

1371
00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:17,160
Speaker 4: of a lock there?

1372
00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:19,760
Speaker 1: Pete? You were trying to go down that road?

1373
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:23,920
Speaker 2: Hey, I don't like really locking road games. You know?

1374
00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:32,040
Speaker 2: Did I locked? I locked the Chiefs before before?

1375
00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:33,680
Speaker 1: We didn't have a do we have a show for

1376
00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:35,400
Speaker 1: the the week before we did?

1377
00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:37,120
Speaker 2: The week before I locked the Chiefs?

1378
00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:39,440
Speaker 6: Did you lock the Rams game? No, you didn't lock

1379
00:59:39,480 --> 00:59:42,840
Speaker 6: the Ram He locked Carolina for sure.

1380
00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:45,360
Speaker 2: And I locked the Chiefs. That was my second I

1381
00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:46,480
Speaker 2: go ahead and lock it.

1382
00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:49,120
Speaker 4: Well, why don't you be bold? And it's a new

1383
00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:52,600
Speaker 4: era of Jaguars football, Pete? I mean be bold and

1384
00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:53,880
Speaker 4: make bold moves.

1385
00:59:54,680 --> 00:59:56,760
Speaker 5: Is that really that bold to lock a team on

1386
00:59:56,800 --> 00:59:59,960
Speaker 5: the road against the Raiders the game?

1387
01:00:01,480 --> 01:00:03,360
Speaker 1: You said you don't lock road games.

1388
01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:06,240
Speaker 2: Well, because the road is did you see what I mean?

1389
01:00:06,560 --> 01:00:08,680
Speaker 5: You can see what happens in the history in the

1390
01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:11,960
Speaker 5: on the West Coast, they bucked the trend against the Niners.

1391
01:00:12,480 --> 01:00:15,280
Speaker 2: But does Vegas count as the West Coast?

1392
01:00:15,680 --> 01:00:17,600
Speaker 4: I believe it's in the Pacific time zone.

1393
01:00:18,600 --> 01:00:20,680
Speaker 5: When when they use their stats of how bad they've

1394
01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:22,040
Speaker 5: been in the Pacific time zone.

1395
01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:23,760
Speaker 1: Count I think that falls in it.

1396
01:00:24,040 --> 01:00:27,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, So that's why I'm not gonna lock it.

1397
01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:30,480
Speaker 5: Just just if you lock it, then you could, can't

1398
01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:35,680
Speaker 5: You just see Crosby like getting two strip sacks and

1399
01:00:35,720 --> 01:00:38,360
Speaker 5: they turn into touchdown off.

1400
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:41,280
Speaker 1: Right right, Well, I'm gonna tell you right now.

1401
01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:44,720
Speaker 6: You know, Halloween's coming up and everything, and I don't

1402
01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:47,480
Speaker 6: know candy to give out, so I'll be locking.

1403
01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:49,200
Speaker 1: The door and I'll be locking this pic.

1404
01:00:50,440 --> 01:00:56,120
Speaker 6: Wow, this this is a must win game for the

1405
01:00:56,200 --> 01:00:57,280
Speaker 6: Jacksonville Jaguars.

1406
01:00:57,440 --> 01:00:59,320
Speaker 2: And I hear the sound effects on that. I didn't

1407
01:00:59,320 --> 01:00:59,520
Speaker 2: hear this.

1408
01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:04,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, they were there. They're there in in audio. Yeah,

1409
01:01:04,120 --> 01:01:07,840
Speaker 1: and surround sound. This is your first ever happy hour lock.

1410
01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:10,280
Speaker 1: This is my first ever happy hour lock.

1411
01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:12,640
Speaker 6: I've had some good times in Vegas, had some forgettable

1412
01:01:12,680 --> 01:01:15,360
Speaker 6: times in Vegas, but I'm gonna lock this one in

1413
01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:16,480
Speaker 6: and say, this is a must.

1414
01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:17,840
Speaker 1: Win game for the Jacksonville Jaguars.

1415
01:01:17,880 --> 01:01:19,600
Speaker 5: If, by the way, the other guy that used to

1416
01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:21,400
Speaker 5: sit in that seat with lock games and they would

1417
01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:21,960
Speaker 5: be rotten.

1418
01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:24,440
Speaker 2: So I'm worried about it. Now I'm worried about.

1419
01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:25,640
Speaker 1: I can bring that mo Joe man.

1420
01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:29,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, there you go, break the trend, break the mold.

1421
01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:30,080
Speaker 1: Try and break the trend.

1422
01:01:30,120 --> 01:01:32,720
Speaker 4: You're locking the door at Halloween. You don't have candy.

1423
01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:36,120
Speaker 1: Well of those people, I'm gonna be all getting Kenny

1424
01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:40,480
Speaker 1: with my son. We're time. Oh yeah, but I'm not

1425
01:01:40,480 --> 01:01:42,480
Speaker 1: gonna be around there. I mean I'm gonna be out

1426
01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:43,400
Speaker 1: there trick or treat with.

1427
01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:46,400
Speaker 6: My son, who's got this this giant t Rex costume

1428
01:01:46,440 --> 01:01:47,440
Speaker 6: that lights up and everything.

1429
01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:49,280
Speaker 1: We went all out this year, Like he's what are

1430
01:01:49,280 --> 01:01:50,520
Speaker 1: you dressing this nothing? Man?

1431
01:01:50,560 --> 01:01:52,680
Speaker 6: This is this is his time, right. We have a

1432
01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:54,760
Speaker 6: we have an understanding of he's going to get Rece's

1433
01:01:54,760 --> 01:01:57,240
Speaker 6: peanut butter cups. He has to reach his quota, right

1434
01:01:57,320 --> 01:01:59,800
Speaker 6: Like there's they're in the lane household. You have to

1435
01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:02,880
Speaker 6: give me ten things that reaches peanut butter comes ten.

1436
01:02:03,160 --> 01:02:05,160
Speaker 6: That's the that's the tax eat nose.

1437
01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:06,080
Speaker 2: Now are you eat those?

1438
01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:06,240
Speaker 5: Now?

1439
01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:07,120
Speaker 2: Are you still training?

1440
01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:11,920
Speaker 6: I mean, hey, training, I'm trying to trim I'm I'm

1441
01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:12,600
Speaker 6: trimming weight.

1442
01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:15,320
Speaker 1: But at the same time, I can indulge every once

1443
01:02:15,320 --> 01:02:15,720
Speaker 1: in a while.

1444
01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:18,200
Speaker 4: I clearly don't know how it works.

1445
01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:20,440
Speaker 1: You know, you don't know how it works, you know, but.

1446
01:02:20,640 --> 01:02:22,920
Speaker 5: You wouldn't think like four reasons because you ain't. You're

1447
01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:24,480
Speaker 5: not just eating one of those Austin.

1448
01:02:25,160 --> 01:02:29,320
Speaker 1: I mean, I can have to and be Okay, come on, now.

1449
01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:31,160
Speaker 2: You know what. You know what he's going to justify it.

1450
01:02:31,160 --> 01:02:33,040
Speaker 2: It's peanut butter. He gets a protein that's a.

1451
01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:36,520
Speaker 6: Good point, healthy fats, some chocolate, you know.

1452
01:02:36,640 --> 01:02:41,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, wow, I love it all right.

1453
01:02:41,680 --> 01:02:44,600
Speaker 1: Hey, So the lock is in from Austin.

1454
01:02:44,280 --> 01:02:49,760
Speaker 4: First, Austin first, one nning. We'll see if it pays

1455
01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:53,200
Speaker 4: off this week in Las Vegas. By the way, mister

1456
01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:55,600
Speaker 4: Chubby's wings before the game, after the game. During the game,

1457
01:02:55,680 --> 01:02:58,120
Speaker 4: chre on the Jags as they visit Las Vegas and

1458
01:02:58,160 --> 01:03:01,439
Speaker 4: face the Raiders this Sunday at the official away game

1459
01:03:01,480 --> 01:03:04,520
Speaker 4: watch party. It takes place in mister Chubby's West Side

1460
01:03:05,160 --> 01:03:10,120
Speaker 4: location this Sunday, four o'clock kickoff time, four o five.

1461
01:03:10,280 --> 01:03:11,600
Speaker 2: What do you do? What do you eat?

1462
01:03:11,600 --> 01:03:11,880
Speaker 1: Today?

1463
01:03:12,040 --> 01:03:14,160
Speaker 4: So they had for the production staff they have case

1464
01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:19,040
Speaker 4: of dias. They had boneless garlic wings, had a couple

1465
01:03:19,040 --> 01:03:24,960
Speaker 4: of those and they had potato wedges. Nice. Yeah, they

1466
01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:27,920
Speaker 4: always have a great setup. It smelled delicious walking in here.

1467
01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:28,880
Speaker 4: Did you grab some of those?

1468
01:03:29,040 --> 01:03:31,640
Speaker 1: I did not. No, I'm trying.

1469
01:03:32,360 --> 01:03:33,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's good.

1470
01:03:33,560 --> 01:03:33,920
Speaker 1: I'll be.

1471
01:03:35,720 --> 01:03:37,840
Speaker 2: Halloween night, but he's.

1472
01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:39,479
Speaker 1: Gonna give me two Halloween cops.

1473
01:03:39,520 --> 01:03:43,080
Speaker 6: Everybody for it before we're going for I'm taking it out.

1474
01:03:43,960 --> 01:03:45,720
Speaker 5: By the way, I saw they have one now that

1475
01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:48,160
Speaker 5: has oreo in it.

1476
01:03:49,160 --> 01:03:50,640
Speaker 2: With the Oreo in it? Did you see that? They

1477
01:03:50,680 --> 01:03:53,720
Speaker 2: don't wonder if that's any good wine? Why mess with perfection?

1478
01:03:53,840 --> 01:03:57,000
Speaker 4: There's there's only one way to find out feat and

1479
01:03:57,000 --> 01:03:58,920
Speaker 4: that's we're.

1480
01:03:58,800 --> 01:03:59,440
Speaker 1: Back in a moment.

1481
01:03:59,480 --> 01:04:02,840
Speaker 4: We will keep kee bit real on penalties for the Jags.

1482
01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:06,760
Speaker 4: Too many Jaguars Happy Hour presented by mister Chubby's.

1483
01:04:06,400 --> 01:04:16,440
Speaker 7: Wings, especially offensively, are on schedule. Usually good things have occurred,

1484
01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:20,120
Speaker 7: and when you're off schedule, it's tough sledding. And we've

1485
01:04:20,160 --> 01:04:23,640
Speaker 7: got a couple, you know, different tweaks of how we

1486
01:04:23,680 --> 01:04:25,840
Speaker 7: want to try to get guys the ball and get

1487
01:04:25,840 --> 01:04:27,840
Speaker 7: the get our best players of the ball in space,

1488
01:04:27,960 --> 01:04:31,920
Speaker 7: and how to stay a little bit better ahead of

1489
01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:35,680
Speaker 7: the chains and executing first and second down a little

1490
01:04:35,680 --> 01:04:37,560
Speaker 7: bit better so that third downs are a little bit

1491
01:04:37,600 --> 01:04:38,360
Speaker 7: more manageable.

1492
01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:42,840
Speaker 4: That's the head coach, Liam Cohen self scouting on offense

1493
01:04:42,920 --> 01:04:45,480
Speaker 4: during the bye week for the offensive coaching staff and

1494
01:04:45,520 --> 01:04:48,520
Speaker 4: welcome back. It's Jaguars Happy Hour JP Shadrick, Austin Lane

1495
01:04:48,640 --> 01:04:53,800
Speaker 4: and Pete Prisco and Leonard Skinnard is coming home. Celebrate

1496
01:04:53,880 --> 01:04:56,680
Speaker 4: Southern rock and American pride with skinnered rocks, the Red, White,

1497
01:04:56,680 --> 01:04:59,600
Speaker 4: and Blue. A special night to support Saint Michael Soldiers

1498
01:04:59,600 --> 01:05:02,320
Speaker 4: and the brave men and women of the US Armed Forces. Saturday,

1499
01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:06,000
Speaker 4: November eighth, Coming up soon at Daily's Place. Go to

1500
01:05:06,080 --> 01:05:08,400
Speaker 4: Daily'splace dot com or cold nine oh four six three

1501
01:05:08,480 --> 01:05:09,480
Speaker 4: three two thousand.

1502
01:05:09,960 --> 01:05:14,200
Speaker 1: Excited for that SKINNERD nice man, always fun I gave uh.

1503
01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:16,080
Speaker 1: I used to drive Uber just because I was bored

1504
01:05:16,480 --> 01:05:19,600
Speaker 1: back when I retired from the NFL. Yeah, and uh

1505
01:05:19,920 --> 01:05:21,640
Speaker 1: I gave I don't know, it was like a niece

1506
01:05:21,800 --> 01:05:24,880
Speaker 1: of one of like the SKINNERDS. I gave a ride.

1507
01:05:24,920 --> 01:05:27,320
Speaker 1: So like she Yeah, I mean she really really cool person.

1508
01:05:27,320 --> 01:05:29,120
Speaker 6: I forgot her name or anything, but like she she

1509
01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:31,120
Speaker 6: was going like to the family unions and stuff, talking

1510
01:05:31,120 --> 01:05:32,920
Speaker 6: to me like all the stories with Leonard Skinner, like

1511
01:05:32,960 --> 01:05:35,360
Speaker 6: it was it was one of the best, uh you know,

1512
01:05:35,640 --> 01:05:38,080
Speaker 6: drives I ever had in terms of driving somebody pretty funny.

1513
01:05:38,080 --> 01:05:40,200
Speaker 1: Oh, I have a bunch of stories with that, I bet.

1514
01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:42,120
Speaker 2: You I would love to hear them day.

1515
01:05:42,160 --> 01:05:45,440
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, Pete reminding the next time we're hanging out together, man, Yeah,

1516
01:05:45,520 --> 01:05:47,680
Speaker 6: I got ten in the chamber that they are gonna

1517
01:05:47,680 --> 01:05:49,919
Speaker 6: blow your mind in terms of people that I've given

1518
01:05:50,040 --> 01:05:52,600
Speaker 6: rides to and just stories of revolving those of those rides.

1519
01:05:52,760 --> 01:05:54,240
Speaker 1: Pete, you're gonna come up for skinnered or not?

1520
01:05:55,280 --> 01:05:55,360
Speaker 2: No?

1521
01:05:55,680 --> 01:05:58,160
Speaker 1: Uh no, you've never seen Spinner.

1522
01:05:59,840 --> 01:06:03,360
Speaker 2: I scene Leonards. No, I'm not. I don't.

1523
01:06:03,680 --> 01:06:05,920
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm not a big Southern rock guy, but

1524
01:06:06,000 --> 01:06:08,320
Speaker 5: i like some of the songs, so I would, you know,

1525
01:06:08,320 --> 01:06:09,600
Speaker 5: but I wouldn't go see a show.

1526
01:06:09,680 --> 01:06:11,080
Speaker 1: Probably fair enough.

1527
01:06:11,560 --> 01:06:14,600
Speaker 4: Well, uh, we'll give a full report after that concert

1528
01:06:14,680 --> 01:06:15,040
Speaker 4: to you though.

1529
01:06:15,040 --> 01:06:15,280
Speaker 2: People.

1530
01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:16,280
Speaker 1: We'll let you know how it was.

1531
01:06:17,000 --> 01:06:18,120
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, I can't wait.

1532
01:06:18,760 --> 01:06:21,880
Speaker 4: It seems like you can't wait time now for keeping

1533
01:06:21,920 --> 01:06:23,760
Speaker 4: it real presented by nobody.

1534
01:06:23,880 --> 01:06:30,440
Speaker 1: Still amazing, that's what it is at this point. Amazing.

1535
01:06:30,560 --> 01:06:32,640
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's that's over selling it. Are

1536
01:06:32,680 --> 01:06:33,760
Speaker 1: trying to grow their business, huh.

1537
01:06:33,840 --> 01:06:36,840
Speaker 8: Just people are satisfied if they.

1538
01:06:36,760 --> 01:06:38,840
Speaker 5: Had, if they had won the last two games, it'd

1539
01:06:38,840 --> 01:06:40,520
Speaker 5: probably be somebody lining.

1540
01:06:40,280 --> 01:06:44,240
Speaker 1: Up to do. Hey, but there's seventh seed right now.

1541
01:06:44,120 --> 01:06:47,320
Speaker 2: Still after tonight, they won't be there if the Chiefs win.

1542
01:06:47,680 --> 01:06:49,000
Speaker 1: Chiefs are gonna lose tonight.

1543
01:06:49,520 --> 01:06:50,040
Speaker 2: No, they're not.

1544
01:06:53,600 --> 01:06:57,920
Speaker 1: I'm not locking them. They had one day. No no, no, no.

1545
01:06:58,200 --> 01:07:01,480
Speaker 1: They they found lightning in a bottle once with Marcus.

1546
01:07:01,520 --> 01:07:02,280
Speaker 1: That might be enough.

1547
01:07:03,480 --> 01:07:06,120
Speaker 2: No, but they're the Commander's defense is tirible. We'll talk

1548
01:07:06,120 --> 01:07:08,360
Speaker 2: more about getting Monday night football. But they're not good

1549
01:07:08,480 --> 01:07:08,840
Speaker 2: all right?

1550
01:07:09,360 --> 01:07:13,120
Speaker 4: Keeping it real penalties the Jaguars, because they had the

1551
01:07:13,160 --> 01:07:15,920
Speaker 4: bye week, they are now fourth in the league in

1552
01:07:16,120 --> 01:07:19,320
Speaker 4: accepted penalties. I believe there's second in total penalties called

1553
01:07:19,360 --> 01:07:20,480
Speaker 4: against them.

1554
01:07:20,840 --> 01:07:22,440
Speaker 1: So there you have it.

1555
01:07:22,680 --> 01:07:25,240
Speaker 4: If you're watching us on Jaguars dot Com. Sixty five

1556
01:07:25,400 --> 01:07:30,920
Speaker 4: accepted penalties through Sunday of Week eight, so that's one

1557
01:07:30,960 --> 01:07:33,280
Speaker 4: game less than all the other teams above them. It's

1558
01:07:33,320 --> 01:07:36,680
Speaker 4: like eighty three total penalties called last week, eighteen flags

1559
01:07:36,680 --> 01:07:40,919
Speaker 4: on the ground, thirteen of those accepted. And a week

1560
01:07:40,960 --> 01:07:45,040
Speaker 4: after they talked about hey, the game wrecker. Are the

1561
01:07:45,160 --> 01:07:49,320
Speaker 4: Jaguars not the other teams players? It was the highest

1562
01:07:49,560 --> 01:07:53,720
Speaker 4: water mark in penalties this entire season. So now what

1563
01:07:53,960 --> 01:07:56,720
Speaker 4: I mean? Some of these are okay, aggressive football penalties.

1564
01:07:56,760 --> 01:08:00,439
Speaker 4: Those happened, like PI happens from time to time. There's

1565
01:08:00,880 --> 01:08:03,560
Speaker 4: things holding right if you're if you're getting beat, sometimes

1566
01:08:03,640 --> 01:08:05,640
Speaker 4: you held and things happen right.

1567
01:08:07,040 --> 01:08:07,240
Speaker 1: Now.

1568
01:08:07,320 --> 01:08:09,720
Speaker 4: Some of them have we've talked about throughout the season,

1569
01:08:09,800 --> 01:08:13,200
Speaker 4: or are mental issues like the aligning up off side

1570
01:08:13,240 --> 01:08:16,680
Speaker 4: on offense twice, the throwing the ball pass the line

1571
01:08:16,720 --> 01:08:18,559
Speaker 4: of scrimmage twice this year.

1572
01:08:18,720 --> 01:08:20,240
Speaker 1: There's the lay of game.

1573
01:08:20,280 --> 01:08:22,200
Speaker 2: They've had the lay of games right there.

1574
01:08:22,240 --> 01:08:24,720
Speaker 4: So on that screen we're looking at on Jaguars dot Com,

1575
01:08:24,720 --> 01:08:26,120
Speaker 4: there's so many more.

1576
01:08:26,240 --> 01:08:29,240
Speaker 1: That didn't make it. It's just there's only one screen here.

1577
01:08:29,320 --> 01:08:31,400
Speaker 1: So it's like we, you know, UH should make it

1578
01:08:31,439 --> 01:08:34,000
Speaker 1: so small. It's like Times New Roman twelve right now?

1579
01:08:34,080 --> 01:08:37,519
Speaker 1: Are you trying to go to eight? Right? Way?

1580
01:08:37,840 --> 01:08:41,559
Speaker 5: By the way on our shows on Sunday, I came

1581
01:08:41,680 --> 01:08:45,840
Speaker 5: up with in the green room the other day. I

1582
01:08:45,960 --> 01:08:48,040
Speaker 5: call them and I would never do this, but if

1583
01:08:48,080 --> 01:08:50,160
Speaker 5: I was a head coach, I would think about it.

1584
01:08:50,320 --> 01:08:54,360
Speaker 5: I call those penalties the chokables because you want to

1585
01:08:54,439 --> 01:08:55,760
Speaker 5: choke a damn guy for doing it.

1586
01:08:56,800 --> 01:09:01,719
Speaker 2: And so a legal shift the lay of game, not.

1587
01:09:01,640 --> 01:09:07,960
Speaker 5: Getting set, you know, jumping off side, fall start, fall, start.

1588
01:09:08,560 --> 01:09:13,640
Speaker 5: Those to me are chokables. The other one I call

1589
01:09:13,720 --> 01:09:18,280
Speaker 5: him chokables. The other one is personal fouls away from

1590
01:09:18,320 --> 01:09:19,000
Speaker 5: the action.

1591
01:09:19,840 --> 01:09:20,719
Speaker 2: That's a chokeable.

1592
01:09:21,640 --> 01:09:25,360
Speaker 5: Now, if you get a pass interference penalty, fine, you

1593
01:09:25,400 --> 01:09:27,479
Speaker 5: get a holding penalty, you gonna get a call for holding.

1594
01:09:28,120 --> 01:09:28,439
Speaker 2: Fine.

1595
01:09:28,760 --> 01:09:32,200
Speaker 5: It's in the context of the game, like when WINGERD

1596
01:09:32,240 --> 01:09:37,080
Speaker 5: got the hit in the end zone, bad call.

1597
01:09:37,640 --> 01:09:39,200
Speaker 2: Even if it was a good call, you're.

1598
01:09:39,040 --> 01:09:42,280
Speaker 5: Not really that upset about it. But all the pre

1599
01:09:42,439 --> 01:09:45,559
Speaker 5: snap stuff drives me up well. And it's not just

1600
01:09:45,640 --> 01:09:48,479
Speaker 5: in Jacksonville, it's everywhere. And by the way, if you

1601
01:09:48,520 --> 01:09:50,360
Speaker 5: look at that list of the most penalized teams in

1602
01:09:50,400 --> 01:09:54,479
Speaker 5: the league, three of them are first new coaches. New

1603
01:09:54,479 --> 01:09:57,000
Speaker 5: England's a new coach, Dallas is a new coach, and

1604
01:09:57,040 --> 01:09:58,200
Speaker 5: Liam Cohne's a new coach.

1605
01:09:58,280 --> 01:10:00,160
Speaker 2: So you might have some of that going on on

1606
01:10:00,280 --> 01:10:00,839
Speaker 2: as well.

1607
01:10:01,760 --> 01:10:05,120
Speaker 5: The other part of that is Trevor Lawrence doesn't do

1608
01:10:05,160 --> 01:10:08,960
Speaker 5: a great job with the play call, coming in, getting

1609
01:10:09,000 --> 01:10:12,360
Speaker 5: to a line of scrimmage, getting everybody set and going.

1610
01:10:12,640 --> 01:10:14,040
Speaker 2: And how many times do we see.

1611
01:10:13,960 --> 01:10:16,439
Speaker 5: Him whether the guy's lined up right or not, you

1612
01:10:16,439 --> 01:10:18,080
Speaker 5: see him motioning that guy or whatever.

1613
01:10:18,280 --> 01:10:21,320
Speaker 2: If the playcock gets down, you can't change the play.

1614
01:10:21,520 --> 01:10:26,200
Speaker 2: Yeah he's out, or run it, run the plane.

1615
01:10:26,840 --> 01:10:28,559
Speaker 5: It might be a bad play, but it's better than

1616
01:10:28,600 --> 01:10:30,080
Speaker 5: getting a five yard delay a game.

1617
01:10:30,479 --> 01:10:32,880
Speaker 2: Run the play. And I think you've seen a lot

1618
01:10:32,880 --> 01:10:33,160
Speaker 2: of that.

1619
01:10:33,400 --> 01:10:35,639
Speaker 5: I put a lot of it on the play call

1620
01:10:35,760 --> 01:10:39,040
Speaker 5: coming in, Trevor Lawrence not getting.

1621
01:10:39,080 --> 01:10:41,360
Speaker 2: A feel for that's a feel if you're.

1622
01:10:41,200 --> 01:10:43,360
Speaker 5: A quarterback and the play comes in and you're breaking

1623
01:10:43,360 --> 01:10:46,280
Speaker 5: the huddle with fifteen seconds or fourteen second.

1624
01:10:46,120 --> 01:10:48,800
Speaker 2: You know you got to go. You can't stand there

1625
01:10:48,800 --> 01:10:50,719
Speaker 2: and line him up and then try and change the play.

1626
01:10:50,800 --> 01:10:52,439
Speaker 2: So there's a lot of things that play.

1627
01:10:52,439 --> 01:10:54,080
Speaker 5: But they got to clean that up because you can't

1628
01:10:54,120 --> 01:10:55,599
Speaker 5: work behind the sticks all the time.

1629
01:10:55,640 --> 01:10:57,280
Speaker 2: It's just you're not going to have a good offense.

1630
01:10:57,439 --> 01:11:00,320
Speaker 6: So you've seen like teams like the Patriots run that list.

1631
01:11:00,320 --> 01:11:02,800
Speaker 6: The Broncos are on that list. They have the team

1632
01:11:02,880 --> 01:11:04,280
Speaker 6: set in place where that they can make up for

1633
01:11:04,280 --> 01:11:08,559
Speaker 6: those penalties. The Jaguars can't right now, like they can't

1634
01:11:08,800 --> 01:11:11,280
Speaker 6: handle to the sufflicted wounds. And especially when you talk

1635
01:11:11,320 --> 01:11:13,400
Speaker 6: about like if you go back to that Rams game.

1636
01:11:13,640 --> 01:11:15,360
Speaker 6: It seemed like when the Jaguars went up tempo a

1637
01:11:15,400 --> 01:11:18,200
Speaker 6: little bit, there was a little more rhythm with Trevor Lawrence,

1638
01:11:18,240 --> 01:11:21,200
Speaker 6: there was a little more confidence. Nothing kills confidence and

1639
01:11:21,280 --> 01:11:24,439
Speaker 6: rhythm more than penalties, especially pre snap penalties. Right, So

1640
01:11:24,560 --> 01:11:26,880
Speaker 6: if you want to put two and two together and say, okay,

1641
01:11:26,880 --> 01:11:29,320
Speaker 6: well Trevor doesn't you know, he's not confident, he's not

1642
01:11:29,360 --> 01:11:32,000
Speaker 6: poisoned the pocket. Well, when you're dealing with the the

1643
01:11:32,120 --> 01:11:34,920
Speaker 6: pre snap penalties, that's gonna throw off the rhythm. That's

1644
01:11:34,960 --> 01:11:37,479
Speaker 6: gonna throw off the drive. So that goes hand in hand.

1645
01:11:40,040 --> 01:11:42,360
Speaker 5: And you know, the illegal shift has been an emphasis

1646
01:11:42,360 --> 01:11:44,120
Speaker 5: this year and they've got caught with that a bunch

1647
01:11:44,120 --> 01:11:46,080
Speaker 5: of different times where two guys are moving and they

1648
01:11:46,120 --> 01:11:46,559
Speaker 5: don't set.

1649
01:11:46,680 --> 01:11:49,080
Speaker 4: Well, they had what five or six in one game

1650
01:11:49,360 --> 01:11:52,120
Speaker 4: that that one game and like five or declined because

1651
01:11:52,120 --> 01:11:53,439
Speaker 4: they didn't do anything with it either.

1652
01:11:53,560 --> 01:11:58,200
Speaker 5: So it's yeah, not knowing the offense, you know, and

1653
01:11:58,200 --> 01:12:00,640
Speaker 5: and and fair you know, it's it's all overwhelming for

1654
01:12:00,640 --> 01:12:02,639
Speaker 5: a young rookie to be learning both sides of the ball.

1655
01:12:03,040 --> 01:12:06,360
Speaker 5: But you gotta get you gotta get into a rhythm,

1656
01:12:06,360 --> 01:12:09,120
Speaker 5: and those penalties are like a sack to me, you

1657
01:12:09,160 --> 01:12:13,720
Speaker 5: know we talk about first and fifteen or second and thirteen.

1658
01:12:13,800 --> 01:12:16,400
Speaker 5: Those are sacks. That's what those are. And you can't

1659
01:12:16,439 --> 01:12:16,960
Speaker 5: have that.

1660
01:12:17,479 --> 01:12:19,880
Speaker 1: You know, with those pre snap with emotions and everything.

1661
01:12:20,000 --> 01:12:22,320
Speaker 1: I get it. Maybe last year, you know, you get

1662
01:12:22,320 --> 01:12:23,519
Speaker 1: away with a lot more of those.

1663
01:12:23,720 --> 01:12:25,880
Speaker 6: This year, the NFL is cracking down, and it almost

1664
01:12:25,920 --> 01:12:27,679
Speaker 6: like it's like a police officer trying to crack down

1665
01:12:27,680 --> 01:12:29,840
Speaker 6: on like speaking tickets before Christmas, right, like you have

1666
01:12:29,880 --> 01:12:32,679
Speaker 6: to reach your quota. That's what these referees seem like now.

1667
01:12:33,000 --> 01:12:34,160
Speaker 6: But at the end of the day, like, if it

1668
01:12:34,200 --> 01:12:36,439
Speaker 6: happens one game, okay, let it be an anomaly and

1669
01:12:36,520 --> 01:12:36,960
Speaker 6: learn from it.

1670
01:12:37,000 --> 01:12:39,120
Speaker 1: But this has happened multiple games now.

1671
01:12:39,240 --> 01:12:41,479
Speaker 6: And it was almost the Kansas City game where we

1672
01:12:41,520 --> 01:12:43,559
Speaker 6: all praise this team because of what they had four

1673
01:12:43,560 --> 01:12:47,439
Speaker 6: penalties that game on primetime television Monday Night Football, right Like,

1674
01:12:48,560 --> 01:12:49,320
Speaker 6: that's what I thought.

1675
01:12:49,200 --> 01:12:51,720
Speaker 1: The Jaggers were gonna be. That's not who they are

1676
01:12:51,800 --> 01:12:52,200
Speaker 1: right now.

1677
01:12:52,600 --> 01:12:54,600
Speaker 6: Like if you if if you look at just the

1678
01:12:54,680 --> 01:12:58,479
Speaker 6: sample size, they are an undisciplined, you know, penalized team,

1679
01:12:58,640 --> 01:13:01,040
Speaker 6: and until that gets addressed, you can't expect to win

1680
01:13:01,080 --> 01:13:03,280
Speaker 6: a lot of close battles. Because you don't have the

1681
01:13:03,320 --> 01:13:06,120
Speaker 6: team makeup to overcome those types of mistakes.

1682
01:13:06,520 --> 01:13:08,000
Speaker 2: By the way, I thought it was at the end

1683
01:13:08,040 --> 01:13:11,840
Speaker 2: of the month. The police officers.

1684
01:13:11,960 --> 01:13:13,479
Speaker 1: I think it was like a holiday thing though, where

1685
01:13:13,520 --> 01:13:15,280
Speaker 1: they try to get it in before the holidays.

1686
01:13:15,320 --> 01:13:17,439
Speaker 4: Well, you know, I think they're out there around the

1687
01:13:17,439 --> 01:13:19,280
Speaker 4: holidays a whole lot more because there's a lot of

1688
01:13:19,280 --> 01:13:20,200
Speaker 4: people on the roads on them.

1689
01:13:20,320 --> 01:13:21,840
Speaker 2: It's the end of the month, right and.

1690
01:13:21,920 --> 01:13:23,759
Speaker 4: The end of the month, so it goes hand in hand.

1691
01:13:23,920 --> 01:13:25,320
Speaker 4: The end of the month, I think, is the thing.

1692
01:13:25,439 --> 01:13:27,080
Speaker 4: I don't know how true that is. That was never

1693
01:13:27,120 --> 01:13:27,519
Speaker 4: a cop.

1694
01:13:27,960 --> 01:13:29,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, neither was I.

1695
01:13:29,479 --> 01:13:32,160
Speaker 5: But I bet the police officers that would call in

1696
01:13:32,200 --> 01:13:34,200
Speaker 5: and say I would tell us, they would say, no.

1697
01:13:34,320 --> 01:13:34,880
Speaker 2: Not true.

1698
01:13:36,280 --> 01:13:37,720
Speaker 1: I never did that ever.

1699
01:13:38,800 --> 01:13:38,920
Speaker 2: Uh.

1700
01:13:38,960 --> 01:13:39,320
Speaker 1: There you have.

1701
01:13:39,400 --> 01:13:42,320
Speaker 4: It's keeping it real and we're back in a moment

1702
01:13:42,360 --> 01:13:44,599
Speaker 4: with fan questions social media.

1703
01:13:45,640 --> 01:13:47,400
Speaker 1: They got questions, We got answers.

1704
01:13:47,600 --> 01:13:53,840
Speaker 4: Maybe maybe we have answers. Pete has answers, whether you

1705
01:13:53,880 --> 01:13:55,840
Speaker 4: have questions or not, but we have them. Yeah, yeah,

1706
01:13:55,880 --> 01:13:57,479
Speaker 4: and he's got up no matter if there's a question

1707
01:13:57,640 --> 01:13:57,840
Speaker 4: or not.

1708
01:13:58,680 --> 01:13:59,280
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1713
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Speaker 7: We have no plans on moving Brian Thomas Jr.

1714
01:14:24,240 --> 01:14:25,519
Speaker 2: At all saw.

1715
01:14:25,320 --> 01:14:28,960
Speaker 7: Something about that over the weekend, but I mean I

1716
01:14:28,960 --> 01:14:31,200
Speaker 7: talked to him for a good amount of time this morning,

1717
01:14:31,600 --> 01:14:35,160
Speaker 7: and it's just a good reset for a lot of

1718
01:14:35,160 --> 01:14:39,120
Speaker 7: these guys to come in fresh four and three with

1719
01:14:39,200 --> 01:14:43,439
Speaker 7: everything ahead of us regardless, good batter and different what's

1720
01:14:43,479 --> 01:14:45,559
Speaker 7: happened in the first seven games. We all have an

1721
01:14:45,600 --> 01:14:49,160
Speaker 7: opportunity to write a narrative. We own the narrative, and

1722
01:14:49,280 --> 01:14:51,720
Speaker 7: so I got a lot of confidence in him. I

1723
01:14:51,760 --> 01:14:54,680
Speaker 7: really do believe that we can turn the corner and

1724
01:14:54,720 --> 01:14:56,160
Speaker 7: get better in the past game that way.

1725
01:14:56,560 --> 01:14:59,800
Speaker 4: William Cohen on Brian Thomas Junior and welcome back. It

1726
01:14:59,840 --> 01:15:02,599
Speaker 4: is Jaguars Happy Hour, our second hour presented by Mister

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01:15:02,720 --> 01:15:07,280
Speaker 4: Chubby's Wings, JP Shadrick, Pete Prisco Austin Lane ahead of

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01:15:07,280 --> 01:15:11,120
Speaker 4: the Jaguars and the Raiders coming up this Sunday from

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01:15:11,120 --> 01:15:16,479
Speaker 4: the Death Star in Vegas and let's let's get into

1730
01:15:16,640 --> 01:15:22,320
Speaker 4: our fan questions. Also available now for sponsorships by the way.

1731
01:15:22,560 --> 01:15:24,880
Speaker 2: Oh well, anything's available.

1732
01:15:24,439 --> 01:15:27,320
Speaker 1: Open for business. We're open. We are open for business.

1733
01:15:28,000 --> 01:15:30,840
Speaker 4: The uh we put the cat signal out on X

1734
01:15:30,840 --> 01:15:33,479
Speaker 4: earlier today. Either way, and here's the best we came

1735
01:15:33,560 --> 01:15:38,559
Speaker 4: up with today at lever Torrance. After the last two losses,

1736
01:15:38,600 --> 01:15:41,400
Speaker 4: the schedule head looks a lot more dawning. Still in

1737
01:15:41,400 --> 01:15:43,479
Speaker 4: the running for a wildcard spot. Is this weekend against

1738
01:15:43,479 --> 01:15:46,480
Speaker 4: the Raiders that must win for both standings and confidence

1739
01:15:46,920 --> 01:15:50,439
Speaker 4: moving forward. Well, you guys have both addressed this earlier, Pete,

1740
01:15:50,479 --> 01:15:52,120
Speaker 4: but we want to double down here.

1741
01:15:52,720 --> 01:15:54,519
Speaker 2: Yes, no question about it's a must win.

1742
01:15:54,520 --> 01:15:56,439
Speaker 5: If you're gonna have any chance to be a playoff team,

1743
01:15:56,920 --> 01:16:01,200
Speaker 5: you gotta win this game. Must Raiders team. The quarterbacks

1744
01:16:01,280 --> 01:16:03,640
Speaker 5: not playing well, they have all kinds of issues. The

1745
01:16:03,720 --> 01:16:06,920
Speaker 5: defense has actually played decent football. But if you block

1746
01:16:07,000 --> 01:16:09,439
Speaker 5: Max Crosby you'll beat them. That's easier said than done,

1747
01:16:09,439 --> 01:16:11,280
Speaker 5: but I think they'll they'll find a way to win

1748
01:16:11,320 --> 01:16:11,599
Speaker 5: the game.

1749
01:16:11,600 --> 01:16:13,920
Speaker 2: But it's a must win, no question about it.

1750
01:16:14,479 --> 01:16:17,479
Speaker 4: They're four and four if they lose with nine games

1751
01:16:17,479 --> 01:16:20,000
Speaker 4: to go, so you must win.

1752
01:16:20,479 --> 01:16:23,120
Speaker 6: It is a must win from the morale that locker room,

1753
01:16:23,320 --> 01:16:25,679
Speaker 6: where if you come off of your two ugliest games

1754
01:16:25,680 --> 01:16:28,559
Speaker 6: of the season so far with Seattle in LA. You

1755
01:16:28,600 --> 01:16:31,639
Speaker 6: go on your bye week, you're supposed to reset, come

1756
01:16:31,720 --> 01:16:34,599
Speaker 6: back in a new team, and you go out there

1757
01:16:34,600 --> 01:16:36,240
Speaker 6: and put on a performance that's going to lose to

1758
01:16:36,280 --> 01:16:38,080
Speaker 6: the Raiders, who are a team that you're supposed to beat.

1759
01:16:38,160 --> 01:16:40,400
Speaker 6: Then yeah, I'm gonna start to question, like what the

1760
01:16:40,439 --> 01:16:41,920
Speaker 6: players in that locker room are thinking.

1761
01:16:43,280 --> 01:16:45,280
Speaker 5: And then, by the way, you got the Texans the

1762
01:16:45,320 --> 01:16:48,559
Speaker 5: next week on the road, which is another tough one,

1763
01:16:48,600 --> 01:16:49,479
Speaker 5: and then you want the.

1764
01:16:49,479 --> 01:16:51,479
Speaker 1: Chargers that yeah, that's right.

1765
01:16:51,560 --> 01:16:55,559
Speaker 5: I mean you got to win one, maybe two at

1766
01:16:55,640 --> 01:16:56,799
Speaker 5: least of those games.

1767
01:16:58,920 --> 01:16:59,960
Speaker 1: Okay, it's fine.

1768
01:17:00,280 --> 01:17:02,120
Speaker 4: Well, I know one person who really believes in it,

1769
01:17:02,200 --> 01:17:04,720
Speaker 4: Auston Lane Heady locked it in.

1770
01:17:05,400 --> 01:17:06,479
Speaker 1: Play the sound, we have the sound.

1771
01:17:06,520 --> 01:17:09,200
Speaker 2: Start the way we strot a wet blanket on this team.

1772
01:17:09,280 --> 01:17:12,560
Speaker 5: Right. And if you before the season, you would have

1773
01:17:12,560 --> 01:17:15,200
Speaker 5: told everybody that they would have beat the Chiefs and

1774
01:17:15,240 --> 01:17:17,240
Speaker 5: the forty nine ers Chiefs at home in the forty

1775
01:17:17,320 --> 01:17:19,719
Speaker 5: nine ers of the road, and they would be where

1776
01:17:19,720 --> 01:17:23,240
Speaker 5: they are right now. I guarantee the entire city would

1777
01:17:23,240 --> 01:17:24,880
Speaker 5: have signed up for it, no doubt. Just how they

1778
01:17:24,920 --> 01:17:27,000
Speaker 5: got to it that they're not happy about.

1779
01:17:26,840 --> 01:17:29,960
Speaker 4: Right, four and three is still four and three at

1780
01:17:29,960 --> 01:17:31,639
Speaker 4: the bye week when a lot of people thought it'd

1781
01:17:31,680 --> 01:17:33,120
Speaker 4: be like two and five.

1782
01:17:32,880 --> 01:17:35,000
Speaker 2: With victories over the Chiefs and the Niners.

1783
01:17:35,000 --> 01:17:37,639
Speaker 5: On the road, you know, bucking trends to win that

1784
01:17:37,640 --> 01:17:40,360
Speaker 5: that they haven't done great on the road out there

1785
01:17:40,680 --> 01:17:41,400
Speaker 5: in their history.

1786
01:17:41,960 --> 01:17:43,440
Speaker 1: But you're not locking this one.

1787
01:17:43,720 --> 01:17:46,360
Speaker 2: No, hell no, I don't. I'm not locking the road game.

1788
01:17:46,920 --> 01:17:49,960
Speaker 1: Okay, are you gonna lock the Chargers game? See how

1789
01:17:50,000 --> 01:17:53,600
Speaker 1: they see how they play.

1790
01:17:52,520 --> 01:17:54,120
Speaker 2: Let me see how the quarterback plays in the next

1791
01:17:54,160 --> 01:17:54,599
Speaker 2: two weeks.

1792
01:17:54,840 --> 01:17:57,800
Speaker 4: Speaking up, that's their next question at job sixteen t

1793
01:17:58,080 --> 01:18:01,000
Speaker 4: Why is Trevor still hesitant to throw the ball down

1794
01:18:01,000 --> 01:18:01,519
Speaker 4: the field?

1795
01:18:04,120 --> 01:18:08,479
Speaker 5: Let me say this, there's a narrative out there, very

1796
01:18:08,479 --> 01:18:12,559
Speaker 5: misguided from what I've been told, that he's not first

1797
01:18:12,560 --> 01:18:14,600
Speaker 5: one in, last one out, doesn't put the work in,

1798
01:18:14,680 --> 01:18:15,880
Speaker 5: doesn't know the offense as well.

1799
01:18:16,040 --> 01:18:17,200
Speaker 2: Not true, none of it.

1800
01:18:19,280 --> 01:18:23,479
Speaker 5: Understands every bit about it, smart, lives it, works it.

1801
01:18:25,000 --> 01:18:26,680
Speaker 2: But something's happening.

1802
01:18:28,240 --> 01:18:30,640
Speaker 5: From the time he takes the snap to when the

1803
01:18:30,680 --> 01:18:35,599
Speaker 5: ball gets thrown. Now, is he hesitant for a reason?

1804
01:18:36,120 --> 01:18:38,679
Speaker 5: Why did he take a big shot last year?

1805
01:18:39,240 --> 01:18:41,479
Speaker 2: Sped him up? Because we know he took a big shot.

1806
01:18:41,520 --> 01:18:42,559
Speaker 2: Has he been sped up?

1807
01:18:43,280 --> 01:18:45,920
Speaker 5: Is he different than he's been because the mechanics have

1808
01:18:45,960 --> 01:18:48,760
Speaker 5: all been tweaked, the motion has been tightened.

1809
01:18:48,600 --> 01:18:50,040
Speaker 2: The footwork is better.

1810
01:18:50,840 --> 01:18:56,320
Speaker 5: But something from point A to here, the ball being

1811
01:18:56,360 --> 01:19:01,400
Speaker 5: thrown short circuits at some point and it's not natural

1812
01:19:01,439 --> 01:19:01,800
Speaker 5: for him.

1813
01:19:01,840 --> 01:19:03,880
Speaker 2: So I don't know why that is.

1814
01:19:04,479 --> 01:19:06,840
Speaker 5: But they better figure it out quickly, and he better

1815
01:19:06,880 --> 01:19:07,839
Speaker 5: figure it out quickly.

1816
01:19:08,200 --> 01:19:11,559
Speaker 2: I'm a big believer in his talent, but he's gotta.

1817
01:19:11,320 --> 01:19:13,479
Speaker 5: Start showing it by driving the ball down the field

1818
01:19:13,840 --> 01:19:16,679
Speaker 5: rather than taking the easy throw and the check downs

1819
01:19:16,680 --> 01:19:17,519
Speaker 5: and all that stuff.

1820
01:19:18,000 --> 01:19:18,200
Speaker 1: You know.

1821
01:19:18,400 --> 01:19:21,840
Speaker 6: I this is a couple of weeks ago I praised

1822
01:19:21,840 --> 01:19:24,280
Speaker 6: Trevor where he played within himself. You don't have to

1823
01:19:24,280 --> 01:19:26,680
Speaker 6: play outside yourself and try to be a gunslinger, just

1824
01:19:26,760 --> 01:19:27,559
Speaker 6: be who you are.

1825
01:19:28,320 --> 01:19:30,160
Speaker 1: Well, now it's starting to look like these past couple

1826
01:19:30,200 --> 01:19:32,160
Speaker 1: of games where he's trying to be a guy that's

1827
01:19:32,200 --> 01:19:34,120
Speaker 1: more of a game manager than actually try to take

1828
01:19:34,200 --> 01:19:36,880
Speaker 1: risks and win football games. It's one thing if you're

1829
01:19:36,920 --> 01:19:38,960
Speaker 1: running the football for you know, two hundred yards of

1830
01:19:39,000 --> 01:19:41,519
Speaker 1: pop and you have the legs of ETN, you have

1831
01:19:41,560 --> 01:19:44,479
Speaker 1: your defense causing turnovers and everything. Then as a quarterback.

1832
01:19:44,479 --> 01:19:45,920
Speaker 1: You can kind of put it in cruse control and say,

1833
01:19:45,920 --> 01:19:48,040
Speaker 1: all right, as long as I don't turn the football over,

1834
01:19:48,200 --> 01:19:51,280
Speaker 1: we're all good. But when you're losing by twenty one

1835
01:19:51,320 --> 01:19:54,240
Speaker 1: against the Rams, then it's time. I feel like you

1836
01:19:54,320 --> 01:19:56,479
Speaker 1: got to take the risks. And I feel like right

1837
01:19:56,479 --> 01:19:58,519
Speaker 1: now it might be a guy that's maybe a little

1838
01:19:58,520 --> 01:20:01,200
Speaker 1: afraid to turn the ball. I think you see that

1839
01:20:01,240 --> 01:20:03,640
Speaker 1: in the pocket in terms of taking quarterback sacks and

1840
01:20:03,680 --> 01:20:06,000
Speaker 1: not seeing the guy. I think you it's in terms

1841
01:20:06,000 --> 01:20:08,720
Speaker 1: of taking shots downfield. I think he's just trying to

1842
01:20:08,720 --> 01:20:11,040
Speaker 1: play within himself and not turn the football over.

1843
01:20:11,920 --> 01:20:14,040
Speaker 5: And they want him running more. You know, they said

1844
01:20:14,120 --> 01:20:17,400
Speaker 5: use your legs more. Okay, that's fine, but you have

1845
01:20:17,479 --> 01:20:20,439
Speaker 5: to that's running when there's pressure right down on you.

1846
01:20:21,080 --> 01:20:24,839
Speaker 5: Running then not not one and get out and two

1847
01:20:25,800 --> 01:20:26,960
Speaker 5: move to throw.

1848
01:20:28,160 --> 01:20:31,559
Speaker 2: If you've watch justin Herbert to Let when he's going

1849
01:20:31,600 --> 01:20:32,760
Speaker 2: on his best, what does he do.

1850
01:20:33,200 --> 01:20:35,200
Speaker 5: He gets outside the pocket, keeps his head up and

1851
01:20:35,240 --> 01:20:37,880
Speaker 5: fires a shot down the field. Strebor needs to do

1852
01:20:37,880 --> 01:20:40,240
Speaker 5: a better job of that, and I think he can,

1853
01:20:40,360 --> 01:20:43,320
Speaker 5: and we've seen him do it before. But I think

1854
01:20:43,680 --> 01:20:46,519
Speaker 5: all that's in play and I think he can get

1855
01:20:46,520 --> 01:20:49,000
Speaker 5: to it, But it's just a matter of something's being

1856
01:20:49,080 --> 01:20:52,360
Speaker 5: short circuited from the play coming in to him getting

1857
01:20:52,400 --> 01:20:56,320
Speaker 5: under center. Because he knows it, he understands it, he's

1858
01:20:56,360 --> 01:20:57,000
Speaker 5: good at it.

1859
01:20:57,760 --> 01:21:00,599
Speaker 2: Just run it, run the play. Play his best drive

1860
01:21:00,640 --> 01:21:01,040
Speaker 2: of the year.

1861
01:21:01,400 --> 01:21:02,880
Speaker 5: If you had to say his best drive of the year,

1862
01:21:02,920 --> 01:21:05,840
Speaker 5: what would it be? Not the end, not the touchdown,

1863
01:21:05,880 --> 01:21:08,400
Speaker 5: but the best drive of the year. He's the Chiefs

1864
01:21:08,400 --> 01:21:11,640
Speaker 5: game when shot to the sideline to Thomas, then he

1865
01:21:11,720 --> 01:21:14,320
Speaker 5: get back and fired a shot over on the other sideline. Yeah,

1866
01:21:14,320 --> 01:21:16,719
Speaker 5: and then I mean he got passed in the fierst penalty,

1867
01:21:16,760 --> 01:21:18,360
Speaker 5: but still the run doesn't cout.

1868
01:21:18,400 --> 01:21:21,160
Speaker 2: But those two throws he was going, yet they go.

1869
01:21:21,800 --> 01:21:23,880
Speaker 2: I still think he plays at his best when he

1870
01:21:23,960 --> 01:21:24,559
Speaker 2: has to go.

1871
01:21:25,400 --> 01:21:27,519
Speaker 6: And you mentioned justin Herbert too, like if you watch

1872
01:21:27,560 --> 01:21:29,559
Speaker 6: his last game, like it's not like that offensive line

1873
01:21:29,600 --> 01:21:31,719
Speaker 6: is playing really well right now either, Like Herbert's running

1874
01:21:31,720 --> 01:21:33,800
Speaker 6: for his life. But I think the difference right now

1875
01:21:33,880 --> 01:21:36,160
Speaker 6: between Herbert and Lawrence is that Herbert has like the

1876
01:21:36,160 --> 01:21:38,719
Speaker 6: maximum feel for the pocket where if it breaks down

1877
01:21:39,080 --> 01:21:41,439
Speaker 6: and he's under pressure, he's gonna get you five or

1878
01:21:41,439 --> 01:21:43,559
Speaker 6: six yards and go out of bounds and be smart

1879
01:21:43,560 --> 01:21:44,000
Speaker 6: about it.

1880
01:21:44,360 --> 01:21:44,800
Speaker 1: Right like.

1881
01:21:45,360 --> 01:21:48,639
Speaker 6: That's that to me is the ultimate confident quarterback, where

1882
01:21:48,640 --> 01:21:50,160
Speaker 6: you know, if it's breaking down, all right, I'm not

1883
01:21:50,160 --> 01:21:51,840
Speaker 6: gonna get a first down on this play, but I'm

1884
01:21:51,840 --> 01:21:54,160
Speaker 6: gonna put my offense in a position to win by

1885
01:21:54,160 --> 01:21:56,240
Speaker 6: getting that five six yard gain every single post.

1886
01:21:56,400 --> 01:21:58,759
Speaker 5: It's it's funny because there was a play where Herbert

1887
01:21:58,880 --> 01:22:02,559
Speaker 5: scrambled for a first down and it kind of opened up.

1888
01:22:02,840 --> 01:22:04,719
Speaker 5: But if you look at it, if he just steps

1889
01:22:04,800 --> 01:22:06,840
Speaker 5: up and he had a shot over the top for

1890
01:22:06,880 --> 01:22:08,320
Speaker 5: a touchdown and he didn't, I don't know if you

1891
01:22:08,360 --> 01:22:09,840
Speaker 5: guys remember that, but he didn't take it.

1892
01:22:10,479 --> 01:22:13,400
Speaker 2: I still think being able to move is a blessing.

1893
01:22:13,960 --> 01:22:17,600
Speaker 2: Being able to move and throw is a true.

1894
01:22:17,360 --> 01:22:21,040
Speaker 5: Blessing because nobody wants your quarterback running around like a

1895
01:22:21,080 --> 01:22:23,559
Speaker 5: mad man. But if he could move to throw and

1896
01:22:23,640 --> 01:22:27,600
Speaker 5: hit some shots down the field, that's that just devastates

1897
01:22:27,600 --> 01:22:28,240
Speaker 5: a defense.

1898
01:22:29,360 --> 01:22:33,160
Speaker 4: Next question at the six seeing is how other teams

1899
01:22:33,160 --> 01:22:35,599
Speaker 4: are hurting for cornerback help. Do you think the Jags

1900
01:22:35,600 --> 01:22:37,840
Speaker 4: are sellers on the back end of the defense?

1901
01:22:38,200 --> 01:22:38,400
Speaker 1: What?

1902
01:22:39,680 --> 01:22:42,639
Speaker 5: No, No, they don't have They do not have enough cornerbacks.

1903
01:22:42,640 --> 01:22:46,240
Speaker 5: As it is, White Travis underneath the play be a starting.

1904
01:22:45,880 --> 01:22:47,720
Speaker 1: Corner right now.

1905
01:22:47,760 --> 01:22:50,439
Speaker 4: This I mean, especially Steam is not a selling team,

1906
01:22:50,520 --> 01:22:52,480
Speaker 4: by the way, they might be a buying team.

1907
01:22:52,479 --> 01:22:54,800
Speaker 1: Especially in the secondary, right, that's the last position you

1908
01:22:54,840 --> 01:22:55,200
Speaker 1: want to sell.

1909
01:22:55,280 --> 01:22:58,840
Speaker 5: I feel like, I mean, if I was buying, I'd

1910
01:22:58,840 --> 01:23:02,920
Speaker 5: be looking around for a defensive tackle and maybe uh

1911
01:23:03,360 --> 01:23:06,599
Speaker 5: some a tight end depending on when strangers coming back

1912
01:23:06,600 --> 01:23:08,080
Speaker 5: because they miss him in the worst way.

1913
01:23:08,720 --> 01:23:10,679
Speaker 2: And then also if there's.

1914
01:23:10,520 --> 01:23:13,320
Speaker 5: A wide receiver around floating around. Those are the three

1915
01:23:13,360 --> 01:23:14,360
Speaker 5: spots I would look for.

1916
01:23:14,640 --> 01:23:16,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not selling any time soon.

1917
01:23:16,640 --> 01:23:18,479
Speaker 6: I think a drug testing agency would be a great

1918
01:23:18,479 --> 01:23:19,879
Speaker 6: sponsor for this segment.

1919
01:23:19,920 --> 01:23:20,720
Speaker 1: With questions like.

1920
01:23:20,680 --> 01:23:23,479
Speaker 6: That, wow, well, I mean, I mean, what are we

1921
01:23:23,520 --> 01:23:26,600
Speaker 6: talking about, Like, is there even in the secondary that

1922
01:23:26,600 --> 01:23:28,360
Speaker 6: you want to be like, hey, you know, this guy's

1923
01:23:28,520 --> 01:23:30,960
Speaker 6: a hot topic that's going and south Like, I don't think.

1924
01:23:30,920 --> 01:23:34,880
Speaker 1: He's already sold. They already traded one away Tyson Campbell. Yeah,

1925
01:23:35,080 --> 01:23:36,800
Speaker 1: I don't think there's anybody you can really sell.

1926
01:23:36,880 --> 01:23:39,120
Speaker 2: And they're not going to trade away the guy they

1927
01:23:39,160 --> 01:23:39,920
Speaker 2: just traded fo.

1928
01:23:40,240 --> 01:23:42,000
Speaker 1: No, he's yeah.

1929
01:23:42,080 --> 01:23:45,479
Speaker 4: And and they're four and three and feel like okay,

1930
01:23:45,600 --> 01:23:48,080
Speaker 4: especially if they get this game against Las Vegas, then

1931
01:23:49,080 --> 01:23:49,840
Speaker 4: they're right there in the.

1932
01:23:50,360 --> 01:23:53,959
Speaker 2: Speaking of trades. One, mister Bigsby went over one hundred yesterday?

1933
01:23:54,320 --> 01:23:54,960
Speaker 1: Did he really?

1934
01:23:55,600 --> 01:23:55,840
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1935
01:23:56,400 --> 01:23:59,760
Speaker 1: Wow for him? Yeah, yep?

1936
01:24:00,120 --> 01:24:05,760
Speaker 5: On Chase, I mean, I mean you could go Josh

1937
01:24:05,840 --> 01:24:07,439
Speaker 5: Oliver's blogging like a man man.

1938
01:24:08,840 --> 01:24:10,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that works sometimes, all right?

1939
01:24:11,040 --> 01:24:14,400
Speaker 4: Next and final one at Eric Harrison, what value is

1940
01:24:14,439 --> 01:24:17,240
Speaker 4: a self scouting tool? Might close relationship with Sean McVay

1941
01:24:17,240 --> 01:24:19,320
Speaker 4: hold since they won't play again this year with McVeigh

1942
01:24:19,439 --> 01:24:21,080
Speaker 4: share Rams observations?

1943
01:24:21,320 --> 01:24:22,679
Speaker 1: Do things like this happen?

1944
01:24:24,920 --> 01:24:26,360
Speaker 2: Yes, they do happen.

1945
01:24:27,320 --> 01:24:29,679
Speaker 5: And if you have a trusting relationship with the guy

1946
01:24:29,720 --> 01:24:32,559
Speaker 5: and you're playing a team you know they played, they

1947
01:24:32,600 --> 01:24:34,639
Speaker 5: call on they share information.

1948
01:24:34,880 --> 01:24:36,559
Speaker 2: They might never admit it, but they do.

1949
01:24:38,200 --> 01:24:42,719
Speaker 1: Would you, Yeah, right, yes, any kind of source.

1950
01:24:45,000 --> 01:24:46,640
Speaker 5: I'm trying to figure out who they have left that

1951
01:24:46,680 --> 01:24:48,519
Speaker 5: they that the Rams have on their schedule.

1952
01:24:50,080 --> 01:24:53,960
Speaker 1: They'd have, I mean everybody on the division, right, it's the.

1953
01:24:54,040 --> 01:24:58,479
Speaker 5: Rams, well, the Colts, but you pretty much know the

1954
01:24:58,479 --> 01:25:00,800
Speaker 5: Colts better than the Rams know the you play them

1955
01:25:00,800 --> 01:25:01,439
Speaker 5: in the division.

1956
01:25:02,120 --> 01:25:07,120
Speaker 4: Let's see, the Rams have obviously the division teams Niners, Seahawks, Panthers.

1957
01:25:07,520 --> 01:25:10,600
Speaker 5: But but you've played them all already, I'm saying not

1958
01:25:10,760 --> 01:25:14,400
Speaker 5: McVeigh leaning on Cone Cone, leaning on McVay.

1959
01:25:14,800 --> 01:25:18,599
Speaker 1: They played the Charger. Oh they the Colts.

1960
01:25:18,680 --> 01:25:22,880
Speaker 2: Have the Colts play the Rams?

1961
01:25:23,080 --> 01:25:27,200
Speaker 1: No? Yeah, they they beat them the only loss. Yeah, yeah,

1962
01:25:28,160 --> 01:25:29,000
Speaker 1: the Chargers.

1963
01:25:29,240 --> 01:25:31,160
Speaker 2: But you should know the Colts better than the Rams

1964
01:25:31,160 --> 01:25:33,719
Speaker 2: know the Colts. They shouldn't have to lean on on him. Okay,

1965
01:25:33,720 --> 01:25:35,679
Speaker 2: who else that's about?

1966
01:25:35,680 --> 01:25:38,640
Speaker 1: I mean, they've already played the Niners once, they.

1967
01:25:38,200 --> 01:25:41,759
Speaker 4: Played the Seahawks, Titans.

1968
01:25:41,040 --> 01:25:42,720
Speaker 2: Once, Cardinals. Don't they play the.

1969
01:25:42,640 --> 01:25:46,000
Speaker 1: Cardinals, Titans, and Texans. They played the Cardinals like late

1970
01:25:46,080 --> 01:25:47,000
Speaker 1: though late last.

1971
01:25:47,479 --> 01:25:49,880
Speaker 2: The Cardinals is the one TV you might lean on.

1972
01:25:49,880 --> 01:25:50,879
Speaker 1: They're both in December.

1973
01:25:51,680 --> 01:25:54,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, give mc call early December. Find out what they got.

1974
01:25:55,400 --> 01:25:58,760
Speaker 1: Merry Christmas. By the way, tell us about this quarterback.

1975
01:26:00,840 --> 01:26:03,160
Speaker 2: Keep Kyler Murray in the pocket. You'll win the games

1976
01:26:03,479 --> 01:26:05,240
Speaker 2: you want. I can give him that information.

1977
01:26:05,400 --> 01:26:07,000
Speaker 4: That's just all you gotta do is turn on the

1978
01:26:07,080 --> 01:26:10,240
Speaker 4: radio and we'll tell you. That's it for our fan

1979
01:26:10,400 --> 01:26:13,160
Speaker 4: questions this week. Plenty more ahead. In a moment, we'll

1980
01:26:13,200 --> 01:26:17,000
Speaker 4: go round the National Football League And this is Jaguars

1981
01:26:17,080 --> 01:26:19,360
Speaker 4: Happy Hour, presented by mister Chubby's.

1982
01:26:18,960 --> 01:26:33,760
Speaker 8: Wings Dropping Its Trevor fired it deep downfield, that balls

1983
01:26:33,800 --> 01:26:34,800
Speaker 8: caught by Travis Hunter.

1984
01:26:34,840 --> 01:26:36,400
Speaker 1: He's into the ends on touchdown.

1985
01:26:38,880 --> 01:26:41,680
Speaker 4: That is the call the game, Frank Franzi presented by

1986
01:26:41,800 --> 01:26:43,599
Speaker 4: Coyle Fenceince nineteen twenty seven.

1987
01:26:43,640 --> 01:26:46,400
Speaker 1: They've been around the block and fenced it too. That's

1988
01:26:46,439 --> 01:26:48,200
Speaker 1: the touchdown for Travis Hunter.

1989
01:26:48,520 --> 01:26:51,000
Speaker 4: Late in the game. The first career score for the

1990
01:26:51,080 --> 01:26:54,800
Speaker 4: first round draft pick wide receiver and corner and welcome

1991
01:26:54,840 --> 01:26:57,040
Speaker 4: back is Jaguars Happy Hour presented by Mister.

1992
01:26:56,920 --> 01:26:59,439
Speaker 1: Chubby's Wings j P.

1993
01:26:59,560 --> 01:27:04,280
Speaker 4: Shadrick, Pete Prisco, Austin Lane and for twelve years, Dreamfinders

1994
01:27:04,320 --> 01:27:07,200
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1995
01:27:07,240 --> 01:27:10,840
Speaker 4: of the Jacksonville Jaguars. Visit dreamfinders homes dot com for

1996
01:27:10,920 --> 01:27:14,679
Speaker 4: all the available inventory and go Jags.

1997
01:27:15,920 --> 01:27:18,040
Speaker 1: That's the important part. Got to have that in there,

1998
01:27:18,200 --> 01:27:22,000
Speaker 1: Go Jags. Let's go around the National Football League.

1999
01:27:22,000 --> 01:27:26,280
Speaker 4: Six teams on a bye this week, the Cardinals, Raiders, Lions, Rams, Seahawks,

2000
01:27:26,320 --> 01:27:31,080
Speaker 4: and yes, your Jacksonville Jaguars. Thursday, the Chargers over the

2001
01:27:31,160 --> 01:27:35,000
Speaker 4: Vikings thirty seven to ten. We talked about that Chargers team,

2002
01:27:35,120 --> 01:27:37,479
Speaker 4: but they're coming in here in three weeks.

2003
01:27:37,479 --> 01:27:38,439
Speaker 1: Pete, how'd they look?

2004
01:27:39,720 --> 01:27:39,880
Speaker 2: Well?

2005
01:27:39,960 --> 01:27:42,040
Speaker 5: They look good, I mean, herb, They still don't run

2006
01:27:42,080 --> 01:27:43,160
Speaker 5: the ball well enough though.

2007
01:27:43,600 --> 01:27:46,240
Speaker 2: That's a problem. But Herbert spun it and spun it well.

2008
01:27:46,280 --> 01:27:48,760
Speaker 5: I mean, they got playmakers down the field too, and

2009
01:27:49,200 --> 01:27:51,320
Speaker 5: Ronda Gas and the rookie tight end is starting to.

2010
01:27:51,280 --> 01:27:52,679
Speaker 2: Make plays all over the place too.

2011
01:27:52,760 --> 01:27:54,320
Speaker 5: So it's gonna be a tough That's gonna be a

2012
01:27:54,360 --> 01:27:55,880
Speaker 5: tough game for the defense for sure.

2013
01:27:56,360 --> 01:27:59,320
Speaker 6: Thoughts and prayers go out to Carson Wentz's elbow as well,

2014
01:27:59,320 --> 01:28:00,920
Speaker 6: who's at the looked like it was ready to fall

2015
01:28:00,960 --> 01:28:01,960
Speaker 6: off like that.

2016
01:28:02,040 --> 01:28:04,320
Speaker 1: Dude was like bandage together that game.

2017
01:28:04,360 --> 01:28:04,519
Speaker 5: Man.

2018
01:28:04,560 --> 01:28:06,240
Speaker 2: They put him on injured reserve today.

2019
01:28:06,600 --> 01:28:10,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Was McCarthy going to be back or

2020
01:28:10,400 --> 01:28:11,160
Speaker 1: what was his deal?

2021
01:28:11,200 --> 01:28:13,840
Speaker 2: He's supposed to be back. Yeah, he'll be back this week.

2022
01:28:13,920 --> 01:28:14,160
Speaker 1: Okay.

2023
01:28:14,479 --> 01:28:17,000
Speaker 5: And by the way, before you get into every each

2024
01:28:17,040 --> 01:28:18,839
Speaker 5: and every game, it was one of the worst Sundays

2025
01:28:18,840 --> 01:28:20,439
Speaker 5: that I've ever had watching games.

2026
01:28:20,439 --> 01:28:22,240
Speaker 2: It was all this schedule was terrible.

2027
01:28:22,240 --> 01:28:24,839
Speaker 1: Oh, the schedule, the games, and the games were awful.

2028
01:28:25,120 --> 01:28:27,559
Speaker 4: Maybe had a bad setup at Fort CBS.

2029
01:28:27,680 --> 01:28:31,519
Speaker 6: Look at the games about Bengals nail back.

2030
01:28:34,240 --> 01:28:36,360
Speaker 1: What do we got that's yours? We'll get to that.

2031
01:28:36,479 --> 01:28:40,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, Dolphins over the Falcons at thirty four to ten,

2032
01:28:41,160 --> 01:28:44,200
Speaker 4: and I saw pee. People were giving you grief on

2033
01:28:44,240 --> 01:28:48,160
Speaker 4: Twitter that you were bashing the Falcons rolling given Vjon

2034
01:28:48,200 --> 01:28:50,160
Speaker 4: the ball what nine times in the game.

2035
01:28:50,560 --> 01:28:52,559
Speaker 5: And they keep saying, well, the Dolphins try. I watched

2036
01:28:52,600 --> 01:28:54,840
Speaker 5: the tape today. The Dolphins did everything they could just stop.

2037
01:28:54,920 --> 01:28:55,160
Speaker 2: Look.

2038
01:28:55,680 --> 01:28:58,320
Speaker 5: V Jon Robinson gets the ball nine times against a

2039
01:28:58,360 --> 01:29:01,799
Speaker 5: defensive savage and five yard to carry per carry against

2040
01:29:02,200 --> 01:29:04,040
Speaker 5: There's something wrong with that plan. I don't care if

2041
01:29:04,080 --> 01:29:06,400
Speaker 5: you play all eleven in the box, you're gonna run

2042
01:29:06,439 --> 01:29:07,919
Speaker 5: the football with the Jon Robinson.

2043
01:29:08,160 --> 01:29:09,679
Speaker 2: Stupid decision by the Falcons.

2044
01:29:11,000 --> 01:29:14,560
Speaker 4: Ravens over the Bears thirty to sixteen. Big win for

2045
01:29:14,600 --> 01:29:16,559
Speaker 4: the Ravens. They needed it too to try to keep

2046
01:29:16,600 --> 01:29:17,439
Speaker 4: their season going.

2047
01:29:17,680 --> 01:29:19,440
Speaker 2: Survival. That was survival.

2048
01:29:19,520 --> 01:29:22,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, Bill's blasted the Panthers. They do what good teams

2049
01:29:22,840 --> 01:29:26,599
Speaker 4: do and blow out the opponent. We talked about that earlier. Hey, Austin, here's.

2050
01:29:26,360 --> 01:29:29,160
Speaker 1: Your game j thirty nine Bengals thirty eight. How to

2051
01:29:29,200 --> 01:29:30,120
Speaker 1: go Absolutely send him.

2052
01:29:30,120 --> 01:29:32,800
Speaker 6: I mean, you got Woody Johnson calling out your starting quarterback,

2053
01:29:32,840 --> 01:29:35,759
Speaker 6: you know, and everything, and Justin Field shows up, puts

2054
01:29:35,800 --> 01:29:40,000
Speaker 6: on a performance, but he gets the job done, and yeah,

2055
01:29:40,000 --> 01:29:42,600
Speaker 6: shout out to the Jets, finally not winless anymore, and

2056
01:29:42,600 --> 01:29:44,439
Speaker 6: Aaron Glenn lives to see another week.

2057
01:29:44,479 --> 01:29:46,800
Speaker 2: I feel like the Bengal should be embarrassed.

2058
01:29:46,840 --> 01:29:48,960
Speaker 5: You're all of a sudden you have life in that

2059
01:29:49,040 --> 01:29:51,559
Speaker 5: division and you give a five hundred and ten yards

2060
01:29:51,680 --> 01:29:55,280
Speaker 5: to the Jets seven point two per play.

2061
01:29:55,520 --> 01:29:56,759
Speaker 2: Wow, never should happen.

2062
01:29:57,240 --> 01:30:00,360
Speaker 4: Texan's over the forty nine ers twenty six to fifth team.

2063
01:30:00,520 --> 01:30:03,920
Speaker 4: Are the Texans real enough to get back in this thing?

2064
01:30:04,840 --> 01:30:06,840
Speaker 5: Well, they played the Broncos this week, so we'll know

2065
01:30:06,880 --> 01:30:08,120
Speaker 5: a lot more about him when that.

2066
01:30:08,320 --> 01:30:10,879
Speaker 2: Against the Broncos, the offense looked good. They didn't have Collins.

2067
01:30:10,880 --> 01:30:12,639
Speaker 5: They threw to a bunch of you know, those young

2068
01:30:12,680 --> 01:30:16,040
Speaker 5: players Noel and Higgins and Hutchinson, and they may play.

2069
01:30:16,200 --> 01:30:19,400
Speaker 2: So they're good on defense. We know that. Also, they're

2070
01:30:19,439 --> 01:30:21,040
Speaker 2: gonna be tough to be taking a week out.

2071
01:30:21,200 --> 01:30:22,920
Speaker 6: Also, Marx is starting to prove to be kind of

2072
01:30:22,920 --> 01:30:25,040
Speaker 6: like a dynamic running back as well. Man like you

2073
01:30:25,080 --> 01:30:27,080
Speaker 6: had Nick Chubb, who was kind of you know, he's

2074
01:30:27,120 --> 01:30:28,080
Speaker 6: on the back nine of his.

2075
01:30:27,960 --> 01:30:29,479
Speaker 1: Career, can do a couple of things good.

2076
01:30:29,800 --> 01:30:32,160
Speaker 6: It feels like now Marx is a great ball runner

2077
01:30:32,200 --> 01:30:34,080
Speaker 6: but also a great receiver. In that backfield as well,

2078
01:30:34,160 --> 01:30:36,400
Speaker 6: makes that offense a little more dynamic, much like Mixon

2079
01:30:36,479 --> 01:30:37,439
Speaker 6: did when he was.

2080
01:30:37,520 --> 01:30:40,320
Speaker 2: Up Hey, by the way, Austin back nine, he might

2081
01:30:40,320 --> 01:30:41,000
Speaker 2: be on eighteen.

2082
01:30:41,240 --> 01:30:44,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, he might go to the clubhouse man. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

2083
01:30:44,560 --> 01:30:47,760
Speaker 4: Patriots over the Browns thirty two thirteen Miles Garrett was

2084
01:30:47,960 --> 01:30:50,960
Speaker 4: a huge day and a losing effort didn't matter what

2085
01:30:51,040 --> 01:30:51,639
Speaker 4: in the world.

2086
01:30:52,040 --> 01:30:54,599
Speaker 2: I mean, Will Campbell couldn't block them. Nobody could block them.

2087
01:30:54,600 --> 01:30:58,920
Speaker 2: Five sacks, but they're so limited offensively, and Patriots are

2088
01:30:58,920 --> 01:31:00,599
Speaker 2: pretty good. I mean, Drake he's good.

2089
01:31:00,680 --> 01:31:02,679
Speaker 1: He's number one in the league in rating right now.

2090
01:31:03,600 --> 01:31:05,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's he's the right now.

2091
01:31:05,240 --> 01:31:07,000
Speaker 5: If you have to say who's the best quarterback in

2092
01:31:07,040 --> 01:31:10,560
Speaker 5: that class, including Daniels who's not played in most of

2093
01:31:10,600 --> 01:31:12,240
Speaker 5: the season, it's it's Drake May.

2094
01:31:13,200 --> 01:31:15,840
Speaker 6: Because its bonus that class as well. But no, I'm

2095
01:31:15,840 --> 01:31:18,080
Speaker 6: giving Drake May above Bucks right now.

2096
01:31:18,120 --> 01:31:20,240
Speaker 4: You have to tell you what bow Knicks made a

2097
01:31:20,240 --> 01:31:21,880
Speaker 4: couple throws in that game against Dallas.

2098
01:31:21,880 --> 01:31:23,160
Speaker 1: It was like, well, eye.

2099
01:31:22,920 --> 01:31:24,920
Speaker 2: Opening, that's playing against the air.

2100
01:31:26,160 --> 01:31:31,759
Speaker 4: Okay, fair, Eagles over the Giants thirty eight to twenty.

2101
01:31:32,000 --> 01:31:34,160
Speaker 4: Bucks over the Saints twenty three to three. In that

2102
01:31:34,200 --> 01:31:37,320
Speaker 4: Broncos game over the Cowboys forty four twenty four, the.

2103
01:31:37,280 --> 01:31:37,840
Speaker 1: One I'm reference.

2104
01:31:37,880 --> 01:31:40,599
Speaker 4: He's one right before halftime, Pete bo Knicks throws at back,

2105
01:31:40,680 --> 01:31:42,840
Speaker 4: left corner, and yeah, that was was.

2106
01:31:43,000 --> 01:31:44,880
Speaker 2: It's good to see him do that because he hadn't

2107
01:31:44,880 --> 01:31:47,479
Speaker 2: been doing it all year. He'd been inconsistent, so it's

2108
01:31:47,479 --> 01:31:48,320
Speaker 2: good for him.

2109
01:31:48,640 --> 01:31:51,120
Speaker 5: Well, I want to see him in that offense against

2110
01:31:51,120 --> 01:31:52,559
Speaker 5: that Texans defense this week.

2111
01:31:52,640 --> 01:31:54,280
Speaker 2: I think that that's gonna be a real test.

2112
01:31:54,120 --> 01:31:57,720
Speaker 4: For that Love that Colts over the Titans thirty eight

2113
01:31:57,760 --> 01:32:01,800
Speaker 4: to fourteen, the Packers over the Steamers thirty five twenty five,

2114
01:32:01,920 --> 01:32:06,040
Speaker 4: and the tight end Tucker Craft geez, oh my gosh.

2115
01:32:06,120 --> 01:32:08,639
Speaker 5: Well it's National tight Ends Day and they all had days.

2116
01:32:08,720 --> 01:32:11,000
Speaker 5: I mean a lot of tight ends called touchdown passes.

2117
01:32:11,040 --> 01:32:12,920
Speaker 5: But Jordan Love was phenomenal.

2118
01:32:12,960 --> 01:32:13,400
Speaker 1: By the way.

2119
01:32:13,880 --> 01:32:16,639
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean this is the Packers team I thought

2120
01:32:16,720 --> 01:32:18,439
Speaker 5: i'd see when I picked them to go to the

2121
01:32:18,439 --> 01:32:20,320
Speaker 5: Super Bowl, and by the way, I picked them before

2122
01:32:20,360 --> 01:32:24,760
Speaker 5: Michael Parsons got there. Because that offense is going and

2123
01:32:25,040 --> 01:32:28,280
Speaker 5: Golden didn't even do anything was right that you look

2124
01:32:28,320 --> 01:32:30,839
Speaker 5: at that offense. I get Watson back, he's a field stretcher.

2125
01:32:31,040 --> 01:32:32,680
Speaker 5: You got that tight end working in the middle of

2126
01:32:32,720 --> 01:32:35,639
Speaker 5: the field. Now you got those other Dobs and Golden

2127
01:32:35,720 --> 01:32:37,760
Speaker 5: and they can run the ball with Jacobs, and the

2128
01:32:37,800 --> 01:32:41,120
Speaker 5: offensive line is big and strong and Love is playing well.

2129
01:32:41,200 --> 01:32:44,040
Speaker 5: That team is for real. I said this in the

2130
01:32:44,080 --> 01:32:48,559
Speaker 5: top my power rank is for tomorrow. The games were awful,

2131
01:32:48,640 --> 01:32:51,519
Speaker 5: but three teams serve notice. On Sunday, Remember, all we

2132
01:32:51,560 --> 01:32:52,479
Speaker 5: heard about was what's.

2133
01:32:52,320 --> 01:32:54,080
Speaker 2: Wrong with the Bills. What's wrong with the Bills. The

2134
01:32:54,120 --> 01:32:56,519
Speaker 2: Panthers are so physical. Look how physical they are. They

2135
01:32:56,560 --> 01:32:57,639
Speaker 2: are not running anybody.

2136
01:32:57,720 --> 01:33:00,000
Speaker 5: The Bills beat them up across the board on Sunday,

2137
01:33:00,040 --> 01:33:04,000
Speaker 5: they beat the daylights out of them. Two the Eagles

2138
01:33:04,560 --> 01:33:07,719
Speaker 5: got back to Barkley running the football, right, Yeah, that's

2139
01:33:07,800 --> 01:33:10,800
Speaker 5: the Eagles show there. The Eagles and that Packers showed

2140
01:33:11,080 --> 01:33:13,200
Speaker 5: that they can score with anybody.

2141
01:33:13,200 --> 01:33:14,320
Speaker 2: And Love is legitimate.

2142
01:33:15,479 --> 01:33:18,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, being from Wisconsin here all the time about you know,

2143
01:33:18,400 --> 01:33:20,559
Speaker 6: the Packers this year and everything, it's just it's wild

2144
01:33:20,600 --> 01:33:24,080
Speaker 6: how they go from Brett Favre to Aaron Rodgers to

2145
01:33:24,080 --> 01:33:26,280
Speaker 6: now Jordan Love, which seems like, you know, he's taking

2146
01:33:26,280 --> 01:33:28,160
Speaker 6: the torch and doing his thing as well, Like that's

2147
01:33:28,160 --> 01:33:29,040
Speaker 6: not a football.

2148
01:33:28,720 --> 01:33:31,040
Speaker 1: Supposed to work. They're supposed to go back to back

2149
01:33:31,040 --> 01:33:31,519
Speaker 1: to back.

2150
01:33:31,880 --> 01:33:36,120
Speaker 6: Great quarterback play when you get a certain time and

2151
01:33:36,160 --> 01:33:39,599
Speaker 6: you know in the doll gyms a little bit, not.

2152
01:33:39,600 --> 01:33:41,559
Speaker 2: In Green Bay. Oh, by the way, you know this, Austin.

2153
01:33:41,600 --> 01:33:44,679
Speaker 5: If you could score those turning Micah Parsons been running

2154
01:33:44,800 --> 01:33:47,160
Speaker 5: Rashan Gary loose, that's gonna be a good defense no

2155
01:33:47,200 --> 01:33:48,200
Speaker 5: matter who's playing on the back.

2156
01:33:48,280 --> 01:33:48,479
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2157
01:33:48,479 --> 01:33:51,040
Speaker 1: Absolutely. Monday Night Football.

2158
01:33:51,120 --> 01:33:53,200
Speaker 4: It's a battle of playoff teams from a year ago,

2159
01:33:53,320 --> 01:33:56,840
Speaker 4: though Washington Commanders three and four. They're without quarterback Jaydon

2160
01:33:56,920 --> 01:33:59,400
Speaker 4: Daniels again as they had to Kansas City to take

2161
01:33:59,439 --> 01:34:02,439
Speaker 4: on Pantrick Mahomes and the four and three Chiefs.

2162
01:34:02,520 --> 01:34:04,280
Speaker 1: Oh, you got an arrow ahead to night.

2163
01:34:05,840 --> 01:34:08,840
Speaker 2: Oh, come on, you're taking Marcus Mariota. You can have

2164
01:34:08,920 --> 01:34:13,000
Speaker 2: Marcus Mariota. I'm taking batter Mahomes. The Chiefs, by the way,

2165
01:34:13,200 --> 01:34:15,240
Speaker 2: are now cooking. Rice is back.

2166
01:34:15,640 --> 01:34:18,920
Speaker 5: The line is good, they're cooking. I'm taking the Chiefs

2167
01:34:18,920 --> 01:34:21,400
Speaker 5: blowout City. And by the way, if they win, they

2168
01:34:21,400 --> 01:34:23,760
Speaker 5: will be the seventh seat, move ahead of Jacksonville by

2169
01:34:24,000 --> 01:34:24,840
Speaker 5: playing one more game?

2170
01:34:24,920 --> 01:34:28,439
Speaker 1: Correct? Correct? Is that a lock pete the Chiefs?

2171
01:34:30,240 --> 01:34:34,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a lot. Hell yeah, they're in a home

2172
01:34:34,400 --> 01:34:35,160
Speaker 2: so I can lock it.

2173
01:34:35,280 --> 01:34:37,240
Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, what do you think I mean? Can you

2174
01:34:37,280 --> 01:34:40,800
Speaker 6: go back to back locks in one segment? I mean, yeah,

2175
01:34:41,120 --> 01:34:46,160
Speaker 6: hit it one more time? Locking right here, boom my ears.

2176
01:34:46,200 --> 01:34:48,280
Speaker 1: I like it. I love that lock it in.

2177
01:34:48,479 --> 01:34:51,320
Speaker 4: The picks are in on Monday night football and they're

2178
01:34:51,320 --> 01:34:54,120
Speaker 4: both going with the Kansas City She's hey, Pete, your

2179
01:34:54,200 --> 01:34:56,720
Speaker 4: number one fan is celebrating his seventy.

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Speaker 1: Eighth birthday today.

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Speaker 4: By the way, who's that John Shadrick and Trustville, Alabama?

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Speaker 5: Oh, seventy eight today, Happy birthday, Papa Shadwick Chadrick is JP.

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Speaker 2: I got to tell you this to you.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I know how much your dad loves me because

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Speaker 5: I take away all your airtime.

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Speaker 4: It is he loves you, man, love you.

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Speaker 2: No, he does it, No, he does it.

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Speaker 5: He does now because I'd made a mockery of the

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Speaker 5: whole thing that he doesn't like me.

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Speaker 2: So he's now part of the show. So he loves me.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but I thought i'd throw that in there.

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Speaker 2: So seventy eight huh nice? Yeah, I hope he enjoys it.

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Speaker 2: By not. Did he spend it two hours listening to

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Speaker 2: this show?

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Speaker 1: I think he does it every Monday. Yeah, oh wow,

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Speaker 1: every Monday all two hours.

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Speaker 5: Well, happy birthday, pops about it, many many hopefully many

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Speaker 5: many more.

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Speaker 1: No doubt about it. He's doing great, all right.

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Speaker 4: So the Jags are on the practice field today, They're

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Speaker 4: off tomorrow, Tuesday, back at it Wednesday, and here we go.

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Speaker 4: The stretch run is upon us. Ten games to go

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Speaker 4: for the next five on the road. How you feeling

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Speaker 4: about these?

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Speaker 2: You know?

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Speaker 6: I mean, at the end of the day, it's gonna

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Speaker 6: be a tough stretch be on the road right that long.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be tough.

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Speaker 6: But it's one week at a time, right, And and

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Speaker 6: you can't look too far ahead, like this is me

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Speaker 6: and you have been saying this. This is the most

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Speaker 6: important game I think of the year, is this Raiders game.

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Speaker 1: And it's a game that you.

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Speaker 2: Locked it already.

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Speaker 6: So we're seeing two weeks difference.

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Speaker 1: To the show, to the whole deal. In Vegas. It's fine,

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Speaker 1: don't see a show, have fun, you know.

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Speaker 5: You know what, if you have a walker little you

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Speaker 5: gotta block back Crosby, who cares.

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Speaker 2: He locked it already.

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Speaker 1: That's fine. Ships playing or not. Probably he's gonna play.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, it's probably gonna play.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they'll chip him. It's Crosbie. They'll put le Quinn

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Speaker 4: Allen in his ribs a time or two.

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Speaker 2: He's a maniac. By the way. Crosby plays the game

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Speaker 2: like a madman.

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Speaker 5: From what I was told. He jumps outside a lot

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Speaker 5: of gaps and stuff. But he's allowed to.

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Speaker 2: Do whatever he wants. Did you know that he wants to.

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Speaker 6: If you watch him play, like, I feel like he

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Speaker 6: kind of has pre ran of that defense. I mean

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Speaker 6: he's he is the Raiders, like they've given him the money.

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Speaker 6: He kind of runs that town. Yeah, he does what

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Speaker 6: he wants.

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Speaker 2: I love watching him play.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, when you produce, you can do pretty much what

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Speaker 4: you want.

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Speaker 1: Uh, Pete will do it again next week? How about that?

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Speaker 5: After after the lock and if it doesn't work.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be a long month. I see you guys

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Speaker 1: in five weeks if that's the case.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Austin Lane, I'm j p sha thanks sorry time. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: old boy, indeed, that would be quite I hope we

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Speaker 4: don't have.

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Speaker 1: To go there.

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Speaker 6: We're gonna do a Jaggs pregame show, just shaking hoping

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Speaker 6: we can get this done.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's go.

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Speaker 4: Joe Fortunado, Brett Reeber, our entire crew. Thanks to you

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Speaker 4: for listening and watching. It's Jaguars Happy Hour.