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Speaker 1: Two SIPs of coffee and I'm already feeling chatty.

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Speaker 2: What are you gonna do?

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Speaker 1: A good mornings? Were and welcome to the No Dumps

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Speaker 1: Podcast on the Athletic Network. It's Monday, November twenty fifth,

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. I'm jay E Skeats here in the

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Speaker 1: Classic Factory and alongside me as always Task Mellis.

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Speaker 3: Podcast last series YouTube viewers, this one's for you.

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Speaker 1: Next to him, it's the Bearded One, a tough shot boy,

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Speaker 1: Trike Kirbie, Hey Yo, and over Yonder making the magic happen.

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Speaker 1: Super producer JD. Hello, there he is here.

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Speaker 3: We are.

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Speaker 1: Shout out to everyone joining us live on YouTube. Hit

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Speaker 1: the like button, subscribe podcast listeners, five star ratings and reviews,

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Speaker 1: please please please. We got a new crap of NBA

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Speaker 1: weekend winners.

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Speaker 2: And losers this crop.

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Speaker 1: But before we get into that, Task and JD. Late

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Speaker 1: last week making the trip up to Washington, DC to

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Speaker 1: go to the White House for the Celtic Championship celebration.

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Speaker 3: They let us in.

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Speaker 1: How did it go?

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Speaker 3: They let us in so positive? That was fantastic? Weren't

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Speaker 3: because you.

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Speaker 1: Weren't one hundred percent convinced? Especially JD? Was gonna be

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Speaker 1: allowed in.

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Speaker 4: It's the White House here, you never know. Security was

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Speaker 4: very interesting. Actually. The first checkpoint was you gotta be

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Speaker 3: Okay. Second checkpoint a.

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Speaker 4: Secret memember, the Secret Service scans your ID. Third checkpoint,

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Speaker 4: remember the secret surface. Another remember the Secret Service scans

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Speaker 4: your ID. Fourth point, each individual had to go into

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Speaker 4: the building, stand on yellow footprints and get sniffed by

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Speaker 4: a dog.

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Speaker 5: And then yeah, and they had fans, yeah, blowing your

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Speaker 3: Yeah, which is very strange.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I was confused by that because they had this sort

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Speaker 4: the fans were blowing the window was okay, yeah.

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Speaker 3: And the dog behind like a screen. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So the dog was the final checkpoint. He's another one one,

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Speaker 3: Ray? Then you're in.

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Speaker 4: And then we saw so many members of the military

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Speaker 4: and the army greeting us very nicely. We had the

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Speaker 3: Was the the we've got video of this. I didn't

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Speaker 3: Let me let me get the door from.

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Speaker 1: Security looks pretty lax right now.

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Speaker 4: Yes, oh yeah, we're by five check at this point,

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Speaker 4: and so we see the unit the United States Marine.

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Speaker 4: I guess the band marand Marie Cornbay. Yeah, they're playing

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Speaker 3: They were fantastic. They're playing Queen Black Eyed Peas just

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Speaker 3: whatever it wow, just whatever they're killing.

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Speaker 5: And then also I feel pretty, so pretty.

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Speaker 3: That's you know, it's okay.

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Speaker 1: So hold on the celebration itself. I guess with Joe Biden,

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Speaker 1: President Joe Biden and the Celtics. That was not in

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Speaker 1: the White House. It was out on the lawn.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, was the scene when we oh, here we go.

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Speaker 5: We walked in and then they immediately ushered us outside.

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Speaker 4: Oh, I see, it was all outside because there were

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Speaker 4: hundreds of people that were there.

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Speaker 4: We're obviously we were hoping that would be indoors because

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Speaker 4: the last one was the Warriors were the last ones there.

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Speaker 4: That one was indoors. But I guess number one it

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure. We're not sure why it was outside.

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Speaker 4: But also the Celtics just had hundreds and hundreds and

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Speaker 5: There was what would you say, six hundred people there

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Speaker 3: Was a lot a lot of people.

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Speaker 1: Yes, could you see everything? Really cute?

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Speaker 5: Well, here's the scene when the Celtics started filing in

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Speaker 5: and we were at the back.

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Speaker 3: We were at the back, being quite respectful behind the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, even he's on his tiptoes.

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Speaker 4: Been Really you have a video, kady, What did you

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Speaker 4: The Celtics also were supposed to meet with a lot

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Speaker 1: Because they waited around for whatever this took. How long

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Speaker 4: Well, they got there, they got their period and wanted

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Speaker 3: Obviously, they met.

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Speaker 4: Part owner Steve Pagliuca did a little press afterwards. Mike

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Speaker 4: the offensive rating record.

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Speaker 3: No one's ever done it. Mike Sara loved it.

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Speaker 4: I mean I got to get close to Al Horford,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's as close as we really is.

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Speaker 1: It a chilly day there and in Washington. Yeah, it

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Speaker 5: It was a gorgeous day, but very very cool, and

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Speaker 3: Anyways, that's why we thought we may get in as well.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was the tease of you going in the

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Speaker 2: Its damn it.

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Speaker 5: I rolling that whole time because it was literally, welcome

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Speaker 2: We were just leaving.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well we were the last ones to leave.

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Speaker 5: We were literally the Marines are like, you guys, gotta

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Speaker 4: They're quite assertive, thanks for coming, polite, Yes, here, go

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Speaker 6: They did very well. Did the band play like a

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Speaker 5: Celtics are filing and as soon as Biden starts coming in,

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Speaker 3: Could see even less. And then just where we happened

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Speaker 5: As soon as Biden started talking, He's like, everybody, sit down,

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Speaker 3: I was like, finally we're going to see Biden. And

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Speaker 3: this was the view of Biden.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 5: The teleprompter was literally covering his face where we were,

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Speaker 3: People were pumped. Man, people were pumped.

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Speaker 1: That's great. I was How was Washington? I know it

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Speaker 3: I loved it. I'd love to go back.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a fun city.

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Speaker 4: It was phenomenal just walking around the city was great.

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Speaker 4: That we got there super early. I know GD was

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Speaker 4: We had hours and hours and hours just to walk around.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I did. I was suited and booted.

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Speaker 1: Wow, so you you saw all the hits suited and booted,

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Speaker 1: well yeah, Lincoln Memorial No oh no, we saw the Capital.

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Speaker 5: We watched okay, you know we didn't really see that,

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Speaker 5: you know them all?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that the big stretch there, the big stretches.

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Speaker 3: So where the treasury gets done. Got out of that.

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Speaker 5: Actually this is classic test amount money, Melie outside the treasury.

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Speaker 4: Oh, I forgot about the statue and then this and

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Speaker 4: this is this is a task of course classic all right.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, it sounds like it was worth it.

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Speaker 3: Of course it was worth It was one hundred percent

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Speaker 3: Actually at the airport, did you notice, j D.

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Speaker 4: it and make a local call anywhere in the US

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Speaker 3: See that called Daniel to call my wife. What Virginia, Arlington, Virginia?

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Speaker 1: The Airport's I thought you're going to say, save the

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Speaker 1: How was the bus in the sky?

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Speaker 1: Uh, there it is. JD's tripped away. I like they

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Speaker 1: had some videos and clips there for us really paint

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Speaker 1: the picture. Good stuff. Well, let's get into it. We

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Speaker 1: was involved the Bulls again, TJ. I know, Adam Amin

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Speaker 1: giving you another show out gave the entire No Ducks

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Speaker 1: crew a shadow to the podcast, so appreciate that. Adam

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Speaker 1: number nine on the season, and we went without a

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Speaker 1: leggie for the rest of the days over the weekend.

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Speaker 1: So the pace has dipped below fifty for the season.

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Speaker 1: the weekend.

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Speaker 2: Real one.

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Speaker 1: NBA Weekend winners will do a few rounds of this

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Speaker 1: and we'll pivot to losers. TK get a started. Who's

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Speaker 1: your big winner?

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Speaker 2: The Bucks are back.

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Speaker 7: I got the Milwaukee Bucks as a winner. They beat

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Speaker 7: the Pacers on Friday, they beat the Hornets on Saturday.

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Speaker 7: That's four straight wins for Milwaukee. They won six of

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Speaker 7: their last seven. Not the toughest competition, Okay, the Raptors,

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Speaker 7: the Pistons, the Rockets, the Bulls, the Pacers and the Hornets.

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Speaker 7: But when you start as poorly as the Bucks did,

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Speaker 7: every win matters. They're beating the teams they should beat

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Speaker 7: some honest brilliance in these two wins. Thirty seven, ten rebounds,

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Speaker 7: eleven assists against the Pacers. He had thirty two, eleven

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Speaker 7: Collective this morning they're talking about Victor Webbin Yama. But

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Speaker 7: suddenly Brian Vindhorst is telling me about Yanis taking the

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Speaker 7: highest percentage of his shots at the rim this season.

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Speaker 2: He's leading the league in scoring.

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Speaker 2: They are clearly building chemistry here.

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Speaker 7: They're almost over five hundred. They're eight and nine. They

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Speaker 4: The interesting part is the depth that you're alluding to there,

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Speaker 4: He is so good obviously the three ball shooter that

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Speaker 1: I was happy you gave a little love to h

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Speaker 7: Sometimes he's too important, yeah, problem, And like Bobby, when

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Speaker 1: All right, tasks, Who do you have for an NBA

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Speaker 4: I want to give some love to the LA Clippers

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Speaker 4: I'm talking about Norm Powell. Norm Powell has been out

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Speaker 1: Part of it. Nobody would it'd be a much bigger

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Speaker 1: Yeah. And it's the defense. Like you said, they held

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Speaker 7: I give a lot of credit to Tylu and Lawrence

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Speaker 7: The Clippers are ninth in forcing turnovers, eleventh in deflections

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Speaker 1: the zero point twenty eight rebound game with the Spurs.

440
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Speaker 1: What a sick, oh lie, that is zero points twenty

441
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Speaker 1: eight boards. But cling in here, man, he did all

442
00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:09,520
Speaker 1: this in twenty five minutes too. And this was a

443
00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:12,160
Speaker 1: back to back situation against the Rockets. The first game

444
00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:15,000
Speaker 1: that Houston won, he got in foul trouble, couldn't stay

445
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Speaker 1: on the floor. This one a little bit better, but

446
00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:20,240
Speaker 1: really made an impact. I thought on Elprin Chngun, he

447
00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:23,639
Speaker 1: made like very difficult. This guy's huge. He's huge, and

448
00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:26,600
Speaker 1: sheng Gun, who's not a slight small dude. This looks

449
00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:30,879
Speaker 1: like just small in comparison with that super long wingspan

450
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Speaker 1: from Klingon. And he's also like a I think like

451
00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:36,960
Speaker 1: basketball IQ high. He communicates for a young guy really

452
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Speaker 1: well on the back line and helped him get that victory.

453
00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:43,000
Speaker 1: So he's playing really well here. In his last six games,

454
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Speaker 1: which are all starts because of the injury to eight

455
00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:48,560
Speaker 1: and because of you know, management, load management with Robert Williams.

456
00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:51,679
Speaker 1: Klingon's averaging about eight ten and three point two blocks

457
00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:54,320
Speaker 1: over his last six games, so good stuff from here.

458
00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:56,000
Speaker 1: I'm not going to say he's the front runner for

459
00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:58,000
Speaker 1: Rookie of the Year. That would be a lie, but

460
00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:00,760
Speaker 1: he's at least on some sort of Rookie of the

461
00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:03,000
Speaker 1: Year ladder with how he's been playing here. Now, give

462
00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:04,480
Speaker 1: somewhat of an opportunity.

463
00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:07,440
Speaker 7: You gotta be able to score. You gotta score, man.

464
00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:09,600
Speaker 7: I went back to the butcher shop on this one.

465
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Speaker 7: I watched all nine of his offensive rebounds because you've

466
00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:15,240
Speaker 7: got seven to two. You're getting nine offensive rebounds, you

467
00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:17,480
Speaker 7: should score a basket some of them. He's catching the

468
00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:19,399
Speaker 7: ball with his back to the hoop. Yeah, like batting

469
00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:21,800
Speaker 7: it out, no big deal. Had a couple of controlled

470
00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:24,280
Speaker 7: tips missed him. Had one wide open layup that he

471
00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:27,480
Speaker 7: SMO watched. Yeah, but honestly, you gotta dunk g it, bro.

472
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Speaker 7: He's got to step up his athleticism because unfortunately I

473
00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:33,600
Speaker 7: haven't thought about it. Omar Ashik is a great comp

474
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Speaker 7: for this guy. Oshik was an awesome defender, like that's

475
00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:38,200
Speaker 7: how he stayed in the league. He could not do

476
00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:41,480
Speaker 7: anything on offense because he was very slow and unfortunately

477
00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:43,159
Speaker 7: that's a little bit what I see with Klinging right

478
00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:46,639
Speaker 7: and how like zero points only four attempts just go

479
00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:48,800
Speaker 7: up and get fouled. Man Like, Yeah, he's got to

480
00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:51,480
Speaker 7: be better offensively, but he definitely brings it on the

481
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Speaker 7: defensive end.

482
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Speaker 1: Oh for sure, he's not going to play tonight against

483
00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,000
Speaker 1: the Grizzlies. He did spring his left knee in this

484
00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:59,560
Speaker 1: game a couple times and then he came back with

485
00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:01,160
Speaker 1: the knee race. But they're going to keep him out.

486
00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:05,160
Speaker 1: Which he's having an impact at least offensively on even

487
00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:07,040
Speaker 1: the Blazer success here. I mean they've actually won some

488
00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:08,920
Speaker 1: games over the six game stretch where he started. I

489
00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:11,960
Speaker 1: think they went four and two, and he is important

490
00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:13,960
Speaker 1: piece in those twenty five minutes or so that he gets.

491
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Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't disagree.

492
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Speaker 2: You got a score man, don't get good guy.

493
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Speaker 1: I mean you're huge. He's a massive, dude. He's the

494
00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:22,840
Speaker 1: last player or excuse me, shows say last player to

495
00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:25,159
Speaker 1: pull down at least nineteen boards in twenty five or

496
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Speaker 1: fewer minutes. Steven Adams did it in twenty twenty two.

497
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Speaker 1: So yeah, you can see some comps here with clinging

498
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Speaker 1: to these guys. But any thoughts there on Kling Kong,

499
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Speaker 1: I'm not.

500
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Speaker 4: Super pumped about that, but it is it's crappy that

501
00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:43,520
Speaker 4: you don't get to see him against Zach Edy again

502
00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:46,680
Speaker 4: against the Grizzly because he played eighty well in the

503
00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:51,560
Speaker 4: NCAA tournament. He fought because he is really good defend.

504
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Speaker 1: He's a smart defender in addition to being just a

505
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,240
Speaker 1: giant dude that love. I love seeing him talk on

506
00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:59,520
Speaker 1: the back line. That's tough, like rookies don't do a

507
00:22:59,560 --> 00:22:59,840
Speaker 1: lot of that.

508
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Speaker 3: It's a good defender.

509
00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:01,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, eaty out two.

510
00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,399
Speaker 1: Though, Yeah, yeah, the big man are down.

511
00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:05,879
Speaker 2: That'd be nice to see him shake hands.

512
00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:09,880
Speaker 1: Nice photo, All right, let's do another round. A weekend winner.

513
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Speaker 7: So he got oh, speaking of the Grizzlies, I got

514
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Speaker 7: Scotty Pippen Junior Scotti with a y thirty and ten

515
00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:18,800
Speaker 7: in a win against the Bulls in the United Center.

516
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Speaker 7: One of the best cherry picked stat graphics I've ever

517
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Speaker 7: seen in my life. The broadcast threw out a last

518
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Speaker 7: player with twenty five points, eight assists, eighty plus percent

519
00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:34,280
Speaker 7: field goal shooting in the United Center was Scottie Pippen's singer.

520
00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:37,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, Scottie Pippen with an Ie. Incredible stuff.

521
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,720
Speaker 7: Last season, my dad retired, I flew home, went to

522
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Speaker 7: a Bulls Grizzlies game in the United Center, and I

523
00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:47,560
Speaker 7: was excited to see Scotty Pippen score one basket in

524
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:49,280
Speaker 7: that game. He was like an end of the bench dude.

525
00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:51,080
Speaker 7: Somehow the Bulls won this game by forty because the

526
00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:53,840
Speaker 7: Grizzlies had nobody playing. But he was barely a bit

527
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Speaker 7: player this season. A nice thirty piece, very fundamental. If

528
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Speaker 7: it was an open jumper, I'll knock it down. He

529
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Speaker 7: went five for eight on jumpers. If there's an open guy,

530
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Speaker 7: I'm gonna pass it to him.

531
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Speaker 2: Eight of his ten.

532
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Speaker 7: Assists were for three pointers. He would get in the lane,

533
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:10,000
Speaker 7: Scottie Pippen Junior would and keep his dribble. It looked

534
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Speaker 7: like he was always getting one extra dribble on the

535
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Speaker 7: balls which would lead to a shot or finding somebody

536
00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:16,159
Speaker 7: out on the perimeter.

537
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Speaker 2: It's really good stuff.

538
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Speaker 7: There is not an NBA player's son who has a

539
00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:23,520
Speaker 7: game that is less similar than Scotty Pip and Junior.

540
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Speaker 7: I would have to say maybe Tim Hardaway Junior. He

541
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Speaker 7: doesn't really play like Tim Hardaway Senior, I would say,

542
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:28,560
Speaker 7: though they are both scorers.

543
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Speaker 2: I don't know.

544
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:32,600
Speaker 7: But Scotty Pippen Senior was like lockdown defender on the wing,

545
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:35,160
Speaker 7: very tall, and then you got like the shortest dude

546
00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:37,159
Speaker 7: on the court in Scottie Pippen Junior.

547
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Speaker 2: But he's been solid.

548
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Speaker 7: You know, he's averaging twelve four and six, shooting forty

549
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,240
Speaker 7: eight from the field, forty from three to seventy eight

550
00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:46,280
Speaker 7: at the line. He doesn't really take three pointers. They

551
00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:48,600
Speaker 7: were giving him jumpers in this one. But Grizzlies are

552
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Speaker 7: five and three with Pip as a starter.

553
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Speaker 2: It's okay.

554
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:53,200
Speaker 1: Call him Pip. You think little Pip.

555
00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:54,760
Speaker 2: A little Pip, that's cool.

556
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,080
Speaker 7: Yeah, lit a little Pip and the Grizzlies look at him.

557
00:24:57,119 --> 00:25:00,399
Speaker 7: Eighth and offense, sixth in defense, sixth in def and

558
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:02,600
Speaker 7: sixth in net rating. And that's with John Morant missing

559
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:04,920
Speaker 7: half the season. Great stuff from Scotty Pippen Junior.

560
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,119
Speaker 1: And the deub he was on the Lakers, wasn't he?

561
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,240
Speaker 1: He was a Laker for a second, yeah, right, two way,

562
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:10,679
Speaker 1: I guess with the Lakers, and then they waved up.

563
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:11,960
Speaker 1: Then he was too way with the Grizzlies and then

564
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:13,760
Speaker 1: obviously turned that into a contract. I mean, he's on

565
00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,000
Speaker 1: a bargain deal if he's gonna give you this, yeah

566
00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:18,680
Speaker 1: and start and stuff like that. Yeah, good stuff from

567
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Speaker 1: Scotti with a why.

568
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:23,439
Speaker 2: It's still weird. Yeah, but it's cause they messed up

569
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:25,000
Speaker 2: Scotty no II way back when.

570
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Speaker 4: I know.

571
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Speaker 1: But then it's like, now you can't even picture Scottie

572
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:31,480
Speaker 1: Pippen with a y like the og definitely, like it

573
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:33,359
Speaker 1: just feels like would be completely wrong.

574
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Speaker 2: He's got a bust at the United Center. I know,

575
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:35,520
Speaker 2: it says I E.

576
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,840
Speaker 7: Yeah, they changed his name and they're like, that's how

577
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:41,480
Speaker 7: your name's spelled them. Yeah, changed it for the better,

578
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:43,680
Speaker 7: the long the long come. He's like, fine, I'll have

579
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:45,760
Speaker 7: a son. He'll make the NBA in thirty years and

580
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:46,400
Speaker 7: you'll see.

581
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Speaker 1: And he'll have a why.

582
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:48,440
Speaker 2: He'll have a why.

583
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,440
Speaker 1: Any thoughts on Pip, Little Pip or the grizz.

584
00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:52,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, it is uh.

585
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:56,399
Speaker 4: Unfortunately, just in terms of us talking about Rookies of

586
00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:58,560
Speaker 4: the Year, the fact that he played the last couple

587
00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:00,640
Speaker 4: of years, because if this was his rookie year, he'd

588
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:02,600
Speaker 4: have a legitimate chance of being Rookie of the Year.

589
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:04,080
Speaker 2: I think if you honest was a rookie, he'd be

590
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Speaker 2: Rookie of the Year.

591
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Speaker 4: Well, come on, it's just a little different. Oh yeah,

592
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:10,520
Speaker 4: you know, Scottie Pippen hasn't been around.

593
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's played like yeah, he played like twenty five

594
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:15,480
Speaker 1: total games before this year.

595
00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:18,480
Speaker 3: I think, right, yeah, clo closer to that. Yeah, but

596
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 3: he played. He's balling, he's balling.

597
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 4: It is fun to just go look at his page

598
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:26,320
Speaker 4: and see, yes, Scottie Piven with an Ie and his cousin,

599
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:28,920
Speaker 4: cave On Pippen. I don't know that Pippin you know

600
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:33,560
Speaker 4: played at Southland's Southern Illinois rookie.

601
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess so big fan.

602
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:39,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, never made the NBA. Okay, that makes sense, Kivan.

603
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,639
Speaker 1: It's a cool name too, Scottie with a y good

604
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:43,399
Speaker 1: stuff winning the weekend task. Who you got?

605
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Speaker 4: Andrew Wiggins deserve some love because we're seeing the old

606
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,159
Speaker 4: Andrew Wiggins, the Andrew Wiggins that help.

607
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:48,880
Speaker 3: Him win a championship.

608
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,840
Speaker 4: He looks very, very similar to the Golden State Wars

609
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:56,120
Speaker 4: twenty twenty two Andrew Wiggins. The numbers are so similar.

610
00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:58,879
Speaker 4: Remember that year he made an All Star That was

611
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:00,800
Speaker 4: the year. I mean those numbers are are really similar.

612
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 4: This weekend it got even better. He played the Pelicans.

613
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 4: He dropped thirty on the Pelicans, had that beautiful old

614
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 4: school spin move that Andrew Wiggins pulls out from the perimeter,

615
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,639
Speaker 4: gets into his defender and spins and scores. That was

616
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 4: his first thirty point night in more than a year.

617
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 4: He's got some consistency twenty on Saturday versus the Spurs.

618
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:23,399
Speaker 4: So that's four straight games of twenty or more, multiple

619
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,480
Speaker 4: threes in each game, fifty seven percent from the floor

620
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 4: for those four games.

621
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Speaker 3: And the aggression. This is a guy that he couldn't

622
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,240
Speaker 3: question his athleticism coming into the season. It's twenty nine.

623
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 3: He still has his athleticism.

624
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 4: So if he can overcome all the off court things

625
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 4: that have bothered him, he would be athletic. And he

626
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 4: showed it against the Pels nine of nine from the

627
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 4: free throw line. So you got aggression, you got shooting.

628
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:47,920
Speaker 2: This is the guy.

629
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:50,719
Speaker 4: And so that's a long time that he hasn't hit

630
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,440
Speaker 4: nine free throws, spent years and years since twenty twenty

631
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:55,680
Speaker 4: one where he hit nine free throws. He's getting aggressive.

632
00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:59,120
Speaker 4: Over his fourteen games to start this season, seventeen point

633
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,359
Speaker 4: four points per game, forty eight from the floor, forty

634
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 4: one from three, similar numbers to when he was a champ, Wiggins,

635
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:08,359
Speaker 4: but even more efficient to be honest. And now the Warriors,

636
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 4: we might see them in Las Vegas for the NBA

637
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:14,680
Speaker 4: Cup Finals because they are the first team to get

638
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:19,640
Speaker 4: to the elimination round into the NBA Cup quarterfinals. They're

639
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:21,360
Speaker 4: the only three to OH teams to this point. They've

640
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:24,160
Speaker 4: won three games by really close games, are really fun,

641
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,440
Speaker 4: five or less for all three games. So maybe we'll

642
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 4: see them in Vegas. We'll be in Vegas for the

643
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 4: Semis and the finals.

644
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:32,720
Speaker 1: So they are confirmed through to the knockout round because

645
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:35,880
Speaker 1: they won their ground. Yeah, yeah, there you go, yeah Wiggins,

646
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 1: I mean, this is it's a different team. When he

647
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 1: plays with this aggression. You just hope he can sustain

648
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 1: it for a long time and not do his thing

649
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 1: where he's like here and there for weeks at time,

650
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 1: because it's been his entire career to me, or he

651
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 1: looks great for a little bit and then disappears. Now,

652
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 1: the one time when they won the championship because of him,

653
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 1: he timed it well to play very aggressive and strong

654
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. But yeah, This is good for

655
00:28:58,760 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 1: the for the Warriors.

656
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 7: Huge for the Warriors because withd Anthony Melton going out, Wiggins'

657
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 7: job becomes even harder. I think you heard on the

658
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 7: broadcast against the Pelicans that they were excited having Melton

659
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 7: around because it would save Wiggins' body a little bit.

660
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 7: He doesn't have to guard the number one perimeter option.

661
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 7: But that's kind of going to be the case right

662
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 7: now because Pajemski's really struggling. He went oh for six

663
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:20,480
Speaker 7: from three this weekend. I think he was just oh

664
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 7: for one in their game on Saturday. Looks a little

665
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 7: hesitant to shoot it because he'shooting eighteen point five percent

666
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 7: from three this season. So it's tough to keep him

667
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 7: on the court alongside Draymond, for instance, because he's not

668
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 7: a shooter either. So Wiggins is going to have to

669
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 7: bring it defensively and he's gonna have to keep doing

670
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 7: what he's doing offensively because he's been a huge part

671
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 7: of the Warriors success early in this season, being basically

672
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 7: their second go to guy. I would say, you know, buddy,

673
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 7: heel might be outscoring him from the field. I haven't

674
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 7: looked lately, but Curry's obviously the driver there, but Buddy

675
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 7: Heald's more of a support player than Wiggins. Wiggins is

676
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 7: a guy you can give the ball, say go score

677
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 7: us a basket, and he's actually doing it thirty and twenty.

678
00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 2: I'm loving what I'm seeing.

679
00:29:58,400 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 1: A few other sorry, go ahead.

680
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 3: I don't know the fact that he's.

681
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 4: Stopped any headlines of Jonathan Kuminga coming off the bench

682
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 4: is it's because he's just playing so damn good.

683
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 3: So yes, he is the second guy, there's no doubt

684
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 3: about that.

685
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 4: And even the Brandon Pajemski has, as you said, eighteen

686
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 4: point five percent from three, he's just struggling in his

687
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 4: sophomore year. And Draymond has talked about it. It's hard

688
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 4: to have a great rookie year and then be bad

689
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 4: in your and be good again in your second year.

690
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 4: And yeah, so there would be headlines for what is

691
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 4: this Pajemski, What is Jonathan Coman coming off the bench

692
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 4: not contributing? If Andrew Wiggins wasn't helping so much, this

693
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 4: team is Yeah, they look like that, that twenty two team.

694
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 3: You can't deny it.

695
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 1: A couple other winners of the weekend just quickly. Jimmy Butler,

696
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 1: I thought had an incredible game on Sunday versus the

697
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 1: Dallas Mavericks. They won in overtime. He had the game

698
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 1: tying dunk. He probably got fouled on that as well.

699
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:53,320
Speaker 1: I know lifely got a piece of the ball, but

700
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 1: there's a lot of contact well play drawn up by

701
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 1: Spoe to get Jimmy Butler. That looked great pass from

702
00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:00,720
Speaker 1: Duncan Robinson on the sidelines that bounds play and he

703
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 1: was just having a great game. He had a season

704
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 1: high thirty three for Jimmy Butler, So I'll slip that

705
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 1: in there. Yo Kic returned. They lost and then won.

706
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 1: They just owned the Lakers like the Nuggets have beaten them.

707
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 1: What it's like, fourteen out of the last fifteen, thirteen

708
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 1: out of the last fourteen when you include the postseason.

709
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 1: They just have their number. And Yo kicch is making

710
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 1: the rounds for an insane shot attempt he took at

711
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 1: the end of the third quarter. Did you see this

712
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 1: task where they you know, there's point three on the clock,

713
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 1: end of the third quarter, point three on the clock.

714
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 1: They're inbounding it from their own baseline and so Yokich knows,

715
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 1: you know, I can't grab the ball and shoot, it

716
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 1: won't get that off in time, so he just decides to,

717
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 1: like volleyball, spike it some seventy feet. It counted in

718
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 1: the play by play rundown like they counted it as

719
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 1: a three point at ten. I mean it wasn't. It

720
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 1: didn't hit the rim from seventy feet, but it wasn't

721
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 1: that far off. Ring guy made a bi ca. Yeah,

722
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 1: he made it go to the point where you're like, god, damn,

723
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:59,719
Speaker 1: it wouldn't that kill your hand. Basketball is a lot

724
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 1: heavy than a volleyball, but three point.

725
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 2: Jump shot from seventy one feet awesome.

726
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 1: He just slapped it down and he had a good

727
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 1: game too. But I want to give it to Jalen Brown.

728
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 1: Let's throw him on the lower third. There just a

729
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 1: fun start to the game on Sunday between the Wolves

730
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 1: and the Celtics, and the Celtics survived a tough challenge

731
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 1: from the Wolves there they got the one oh seven

732
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 1: to one oh five victory came down to really the

733
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 1: final possession from Minnesota, which Jalen Brown was involved in defensively.

734
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 1: But the first few minutes of this game, it was

735
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 1: all JB for three. As they say in the arena,

736
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 1: there He scored the Celtics first fifteen points on five

737
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 1: consecutive three pointers. It was awesome. I was like, that's

738
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 1: a cool way to start a game if you just

739
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 1: went out to a Sunday afternoon game see the Wolves

740
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 1: and the Celtics, and like the crowd was so hyped

741
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 1: as you would be. Once the guy hits his third,

742
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 1: and then his fourth, and then the fifth was he's

743
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 1: got Rudy out on an island and you know he's

744
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 1: shooting it and he knocked it down to the erupted.

745
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 1: This was in the first like three and a half

746
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 1: minutes of the game, and then he cooled off after

747
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 1: that white hot start. But he had a good game overall,

748
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 1: and he hit probably the biggest play with about one

749
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 1: point fifteen. He hit another three in transition that pushed

750
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 1: a two point lead to five, and then, like I said,

751
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 1: he was involved defensively on the final play. He loves

752
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 1: getting up for games against Anthony Edwards, so fellow Georgian boy.

753
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 1: So he guarded him, you know, did a little pre

754
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 1: switching to stay on him. Anthony Edwards drove Jylen Brown

755
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 1: there though, making it difficult. Anthony Edwards kicked it to

756
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 1: McDaniels in the corner. It was a bad pass. If

757
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 1: it was a good pass with Daniels probably shoots it

758
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 1: and said he sort of had to like get it

759
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 1: over to Nasried and there wasn't really enough time on

760
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 1: the clock. I don't even know if it would have

761
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 1: counted if it went in, but he missed anyway, So

762
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 1: good little defensive play there by Jillen Brown and the Celtics.

763
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 1: It was a good game. It was a good fight

764
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 1: from Minnesota to get back into it because they were

765
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 1: down quite a bit. But I'll give it to jb

766
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 1: Any thoughts.

767
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 7: I like watching these two teams play against each other.

768
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 7: They played two overtime games last year. The first one

769
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 7: was it was in Minnesota, right. It ended up making

770
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 7: it in the Netflix series Starting five, Tatum and Anthony

771
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,279
Speaker 7: Edwards going head to head against each other in the

772
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 7: overtime period. So yeah, were they ever to meet in

773
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:14,360
Speaker 7: the finals, we might have a classic on our hands.

774
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 7: It's a long way to look ahead, but they do

775
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 7: play each other well. They got good like matchups both ways,

776
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 7: with like the Timberwolves have enough athleticism on the wing

777
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:23,400
Speaker 7: to be able to hang with.

778
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:24,240
Speaker 1: Tatum and Brown.

779
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:25,839
Speaker 2: It's just a fun game to watch.

780
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 3: I'm with you.

781
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:28,719
Speaker 7: That was a huge momentum play the Jalen Brown three,

782
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,239
Speaker 7: because the Timberwolves had a wide open look at it.

783
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 7: There's a little bit of a miscommunication between I think

784
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 7: it was Tatum and Drew Holliday up top. McDaniels sets

785
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:41,320
Speaker 7: a screen. Tatum probably should have stayed with McDaniels. Hech

786
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 7: who knows what happens. Edwards gets a wide open look,

787
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 7: just really short clanks it outlet to Derek White, almost

788
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:49,400
Speaker 7: goes out of bounds. Somehow he beat Anthony Edwards to

789
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:51,440
Speaker 7: the ball. I think that should have been Ant's ball.

790
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 7: You talk about fifty fifty balls. If he gets that,

791
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 7: we might be looking at a different game instead. Derek

792
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:57,400
Speaker 7: White runs it down, keeps it in bounds, and then

793
00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 7: Jalen Brown hit that three. It was a six point

794
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 7: swing in a very very close game. That's what the

795
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:03,400
Speaker 7: margins are between these two teams.

796
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's like, I do love the like the

797
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 1: shit talking between Anthony Edwards and like Brown, maybe Tatum

798
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 1: less extent, but you know, it's like all in good nature.

799
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 1: But you know, they talk a lot of junk and

800
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:16,759
Speaker 1: they even addressed it after the game, and they do

801
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:19,879
Speaker 1: play really entertaining games, these two teams. So Jayleen Brown

802
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 1: starting that game hot and ending it in style. Let's

803
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 1: go to weekend losers, TK when you get started? Where

804
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:26,759
Speaker 1: are you going?

805
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:28,840
Speaker 7: I got Fred Van Vliet as a loser of the

806
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 7: weekend because he's going to be losing some money and

807
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:35,280
Speaker 7: maybe some games. And epic ran from Fred van Vliet

808
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:39,920
Speaker 7: after being ejected Saturday against the Portland Trailblazers. The Rockets

809
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 7: are down by five four and a half seconds left,

810
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 7: Van Vliet is like on the top side of your screen.

811
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 7: He's trying to cut to the lower side of the

812
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:48,320
Speaker 7: screen to getch a ball on the sidelines out of

813
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:50,759
Speaker 7: bomb play. He gets called for an offensive foul for

814
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 7: trucking to Moni Kamara. Definitely a foul and he is heated,

815
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:57,839
Speaker 7: pointing at all the rest You suck, you suck. Then

816
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:00,320
Speaker 7: he starts swearing at him, calling him bad name. And

817
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 7: he almost pointed in a guy's face very.

818
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:07,439
Speaker 3: Close, like boom, you got that very close to my face.

819
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, and if the camera was behind you, it would

820
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 2: look like.

821
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 1: I hit you, because it did look like he hit

822
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 1: him from the one angle.

823
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 7: Yeah, how do you see the other accle, but it

824
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:16,880
Speaker 7: is like a very close to hitting his face. Nonetheless

825
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 7: a Kelly oubre esque rant I thought from Fred van Vliet.

826
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 7: We saw it last year with Ubrey, you know, insulting

827
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,239
Speaker 7: families of referees before he got toss. If you're a

828
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:29,720
Speaker 7: Bulls fan, joke you Noah had one of these. Always

829
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 7: hilarious when you're pointing at each in every referee. And

830
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:35,399
Speaker 7: then I love the sad removal of his shooting.

831
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 2: Scene as he left the cord, it like took off,

832
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:38,239
Speaker 2: it threw it down.

833
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,320
Speaker 7: That was great, bad game for VanVleet, eight points on

834
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:44,279
Speaker 7: four of thirteen shooting, went oh of six from three

835
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 7: and then postgame the refs admitted that they had missed

836
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 7: the call with Van Vleet handling the ball at the

837
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 7: top of the key he got fouled by I think

838
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 7: it was too many Kamara as well. It wouldn't have

839
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:55,840
Speaker 7: been shots, but it would have been a foul. And

840
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 7: then on the next play like VanVleet trucks and they're like,

841
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 7: come on man, So of course he's upset. Yeah, having

842
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 7: played like that and having an incorrect call go against him,

843
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 7: he was absolutely heated. But when you sign a contract

844
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 7: like Fred vanvlee This is what it's all about. Man,

845
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 7: it'll pay off down the line. Sure, you're gonna get

846
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:16,799
Speaker 7: fined whatever, one hundred thousand dollars, probably miss a game

847
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 7: for getting this close to the referees. But maybe you'll

848
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:22,279
Speaker 7: shoot ten free throws the next time.

849
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:25,319
Speaker 1: You think so. Well, like when when Fred van Leek

850
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 1: gets tossed or like has an issue with referees, he

851
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 1: really goes for it, like he makes it worthwhile because

852
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 1: for the most part he's fairly even keeled, like he's

853
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 1: a pro and doesn't get all that rattled. But we've

854
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 1: seen this before. There's been incidents tasks where he's like

855
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 1: done his postgame rants about officials. Was it Ben Taylor?

856
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 3: Was that the.

857
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, Do you think he'll get a game suspension

858
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 1: for this? Obviously getting fine we'll probably find out today

859
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 1: right after we go off the air.

860
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 3: But you know time the rest made a mistake. Yeah,

861
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:58,319
Speaker 3: you know, so it's kind of like just a fine.

862
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:00,400
Speaker 1: I think, just just a fine just because he didn't

863
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 1: touch him. I mean it's a threatening obviously a threatening point. Yeah,

864
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:06,320
Speaker 1: he will you break it suspended? I don't remember, I

865
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:09,919
Speaker 1: don't know, I don't remember, So yeah, eventfleet, it's gonna

866
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 1: be a little lighter in the wallet.

867
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:15,840
Speaker 4: For he was struggling from awesome. He's struggling from threes.

868
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 4: Been struggling all season from three. That's the interesting thing

869
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 4: for me is if fred van Vliet stays with this

870
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 4: team throughout the season, whether or not the Rockets pay

871
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 4: him next year because it's a team option. Are you

872
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:31,479
Speaker 4: gonna keep him around? Because he is a great leader

873
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 4: on this team, there is no doubt about that. But

874
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:37,359
Speaker 4: Freddie is getting a little older. It's gonna be thirty

875
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:40,439
Speaker 4: one for next season. I'm sure they're in talks about

876
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 4: trading him out with the depth that they have at

877
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 4: guard with Reed Shepherd coming. So it is interesting if

878
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 4: you continue to pay him at that forty mil contract

879
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 4: that they sided. Well, you said it was a good contract.

880
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:55,360
Speaker 4: It was a good contract in that they just have

881
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 4: to pay him for two years and move on at

882
00:38:58,000 --> 00:38:59,359
Speaker 4: some point when they want to get younger.

883
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,240
Speaker 1: Who do you have as a loser the weekend, Well.

884
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 3: I got to get into the Zion Williams and stuff.

885
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 4: Unfortunately, Zion Willimson is out for several more weeks. He's

886
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 4: been out for a few weeks with the hamshring injury

887
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 4: and then Sean Shrining reporting this weekend that it ain't

888
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 4: anywhere close, and so they expected him to be out

889
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 4: four to six weeks, but he's gone through multiple treatments

890
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:24,880
Speaker 4: and it could be even longer than that. And so

891
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 4: coming into this season, everybody's saying this could be his

892
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 4: healthiest season. After playing seventy games last year, he looked

893
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:35,279
Speaker 4: like he was in his best shape and coming off

894
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:39,359
Speaker 4: the most games he's played last year, well you can

895
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 4: say he's not going to reach that this season. There's

896
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:43,839
Speaker 4: no doubt about that at this point. So he's out,

897
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:46,919
Speaker 4: everybody is out, and the Pelicans are the first team

898
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:49,279
Speaker 4: eliminated from the NBA Cup.

899
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 3: I remember last year they were there.

900
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 4: Last year we got through the quarterfinal, Scott to Vegas

901
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 4: for the semis and that Lakers game.

902
00:39:56,719 --> 00:40:00,400
Speaker 3: Are they there's chatter they felt good brandon ingram Zion.

903
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:02,759
Speaker 4: But everybody's hurt on this team, and I think it's

904
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:04,800
Speaker 4: fair to say you want to make the argument that

905
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 4: their season is done, that they're not going to make

906
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:10,800
Speaker 4: the playoffs. At four and thirteen, you look up and

907
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:12,920
Speaker 4: down the Western Conference. To make the play in you

908
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 4: have to be a five hundred team. So you know,

909
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 4: we're just we're just guestimating here. But to get to

910
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 4: five hundred, you gotta be twenty and ten over your

911
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 4: next thirty. You know, you've got to have a really

912
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:27,439
Speaker 4: good streak. And so adding boting well here getting close

913
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 4: to the quarterway mark with not only Zion's injury, but

914
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 4: so many other guys injuries, and you know there's other

915
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 4: drama with Zion. He's split with his CAAA agent. No

916
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 4: telling what his next who is next representative is going

917
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 4: to be? No one knows has not been made to

918
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:45,759
Speaker 4: the public at this point. And then and then the

919
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:51,360
Speaker 4: video of Zion getting his tattoo this weekend, that monstrous

920
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:54,279
Speaker 4: tattoo on his back, and people say he's getting a

921
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 4: tattoo mid season. No, no, no, no, it is from

922
00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 4: the preseason. There's no doubt that the Mountain Zion on

923
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 4: top of his back. It says mount Zion on top

924
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:05,880
Speaker 4: of his back. And then it is a mask inspired

925
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 4: by the anime story of Ujiro and Baki. Hanma had

926
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:10,320
Speaker 4: to go research.

927
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 1: Wow, well that's what that is.

928
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:12,799
Speaker 3: Yes, it's a mask.

929
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:17,800
Speaker 4: Anthony Michaels, who does his tattoos, stated that and stated

930
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 4: that it was done in the preseason. So people saying, whoa, whoa,

931
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 4: look at his body, he'll never play basketball, because you know,

932
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:28,840
Speaker 4: he does look big because he is shirtless. But you

933
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:31,239
Speaker 4: know the fact is he just may not be healthy

934
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:34,799
Speaker 4: enough to play basketball for a long period of time

935
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 4: because we were talking about a hamstring, the same injury

936
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 4: that he got to end last season when he looked

937
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:43,279
Speaker 4: good in that nd season tournament for three and then

938
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 4: three quarters quarters because it was close. I mean, he

939
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:47,840
Speaker 4: looked awesome until that.

940
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 7: He dominated in the fourth quarter of the play for sure,

941
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 7: But there's reporting that he's had two PRP injections for

942
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 7: the hamstring, which is not encouraging. They originally said what

943
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 7: two to four weeks, it's gonna probably four to six.

944
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 7: So it's at least going to be four probably more

945
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 7: on the sixth side, you would have to think. And yeah,

946
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 7: I mean, the Pelicans are so far behind right now,

947
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 7: last place in the Western Conference, four and thirteen.

948
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:12,719
Speaker 2: They just have so many possessions that end with Jeremiah

949
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 2: Robinson Earl.

950
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 7: I could not believe crunch time against the Warriors. It's like,

951
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:18,880
Speaker 7: how is this guy getting every single shot? But guess what,

952
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 7: that's what they're gonna give up because there's nobody else

953
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:21,839
Speaker 7: that's going to make them pay.

954
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 2: Brandon Ingram apparently switched.

955
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:24,919
Speaker 1: His agency as well.

956
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 7: So things are feeling very unsettled for the Pelicans, and

957
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 7: it's just hard. So you have another season go this way.

958
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:33,760
Speaker 7: You're a quarter of the way in and you're already

959
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:36,920
Speaker 7: thinking should we tank it away and try for Cooper

960
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:37,400
Speaker 7: Flag or.

961
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:39,759
Speaker 2: One of these other draft prospects. And once you start

962
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:40,400
Speaker 2: thinking about.

963
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 7: That, it's like, we're going to do this with Zion

964
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 7: again next year, right, his hamstrings are going to be

965
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:45,840
Speaker 7: better next season.

966
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is how bad it is. I heard the

967
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 1: Hoop Collective debating whether or not the Pelicans should actually

968
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 1: because of like these intriguing contract clauses in his deal,

969
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:59,759
Speaker 1: like look to waive Zion Williamson. Now that's I do

970
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 1: not think that's gonna happen at all. You know, if

971
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:05,359
Speaker 1: you're going to move away from the Zion experiment, you're

972
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 1: going to trade him and whatever. Maybe you don't get

973
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:09,760
Speaker 1: the sexiest return back, but you're gonna do that instead

974
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:11,840
Speaker 1: of waiving him to take them, you know, out of

975
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:13,880
Speaker 1: the remaining capit. But like, that's how bad it is.

976
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 1: Is my point here, that's like, oh, what is the

977
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:18,759
Speaker 1: contract say, Oh, they technically could wave him because of

978
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 1: all this like stipulations in there, because of his previous

979
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:26,279
Speaker 1: health issues. It's it's bad. It's very bad. It feels

980
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:27,880
Speaker 1: I'm with you task. It feels like the season is

981
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:29,759
Speaker 1: a complete wash. I guess good news is it sounds

982
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 1: like McCollum and de Jontay Murray might be returning somewhat soon.

983
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 1: Definitely makes you a better team. But like if they're

984
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:38,840
Speaker 1: in the East, yeah, you can probably get back into it.

985
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:41,800
Speaker 1: Not in the West, no way, Like even completely healthy,

986
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 1: it's not like a given lock. They're like man stamp

987
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:46,399
Speaker 1: them into the playoffs, like, no, it's gonna be a tough,

988
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 1: eighty two game season. And then they don't have anybody,

989
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:52,879
Speaker 1: so they're just like, yeah, Jeremiah Robinson earl so many

990
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 1: games I've watched, like it's Brandon Boston junior time, and

991
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 1: it's like, what what is going on? But they're forced

992
00:43:58,120 --> 00:43:59,360
Speaker 1: to do it because they have nobody.

993
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 4: Else that he's only played six games and it's going

994
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:04,759
Speaker 4: to be multiple weeks, multiple weeks till he comes back, so.

995
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 3: It's gonna be a long time. So he's not gonna

996
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:06,759
Speaker 3: play all that much.

997
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 4: You know, going back to his contract, it was surprising

998
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 4: when David Griffin signed him to this deal.

999
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 3: And yes, he's got these little caveats that if he.

1000
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:17,880
Speaker 4: Doesn't meet this body percentage or doesn't meet these games played,

1001
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:21,279
Speaker 4: that he doesn't get this certain amount of pay. But

1002
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 4: at the same time, I don't think it's crazy to

1003
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 4: say that they would release him. David Griffin will not

1004
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 4: do it because David Griffin won't have a job after that.

1005
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:32,880
Speaker 4: I mean, why would New Orleans keep going forward with

1006
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:37,319
Speaker 4: David Griffin if this contract that he signed isn't voting Well,

1007
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 4: I think you have to keep him if you're David Griffin.

1008
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:42,360
Speaker 4: But at the same time, what kind of package are

1009
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:45,240
Speaker 4: you getting for Zion. I know it's the worst possible

1010
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 4: time that his trade value could not get any lower

1011
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:52,320
Speaker 4: currently right here, right now, But we are watching a

1012
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 4: hamstring injury, as you mentioned, trade, the multiple treatments that

1013
00:44:56,239 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 4: he's getting. I mean, everything can be injured. It's just

1014
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:05,400
Speaker 4: it's just Yes, at this point, coming off that great season,

1015
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 4: it's supposed to be this healthiest season.

1016
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:08,880
Speaker 3: Yes, Oh my god, I don't know.

1017
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:11,719
Speaker 1: We were so pumped for the Pelicans obviously led by

1018
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 1: a healthy Zion. Maybe it was all the questions surrounding

1019
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:16,319
Speaker 1: them were just like, who are they going to trade

1020
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 1: Brandon Ingram to? How oh man they got to Janntiennah,

1021
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 1: that's a bit of an overlap. They'll probably have to

1022
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:22,760
Speaker 1: pivot off Ingram and they maybe still will and probably

1023
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 1: still should. But now it's like just like it's a

1024
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 1: season from hell. I mean it's it's I know a

1025
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 1: lot of people made the comparisons. It does feel very Grizzlies,

1026
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 1: like in a weird way to last season, which was like,

1027
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 1: oh crap, what a wash. Everybody's injured and maybe you

1028
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:39,239
Speaker 1: just like regroup. But a lot of these guys are

1029
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 1: paid a lot of money here on this Pelicans team,

1030
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:43,319
Speaker 1: and we've never even had a chance to see how

1031
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 1: it works because someone is always hurt, always hurt, always hurt.

1032
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:50,320
Speaker 1: NBA Weekend Loser for me got to give to the

1033
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:52,880
Speaker 1: Charlotte Hornets, and let me explain why there was a

1034
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:55,320
Speaker 1: real the good, the bad, and the ugly to the

1035
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 1: Hornets weekend. The good LaMelo ball scoring fifty, you said,

1036
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:01,759
Speaker 1: a TK versus the Bucks he only had ten points

1037
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 1: at halftime, exploded for twenty two in the third quarter

1038
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 1: eighteen in the fourth. Tried to rally the Hornets back

1039
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 1: into that game. They got to within five on LaMelo's

1040
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 1: final bucket, and then Brandon Miller hit a three, so

1041
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 1: it was even closer. Milwaukee hit free throws got the victory.

1042
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 1: Ball joins Kemba Walker as the only players in Hornet's

1043
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 1: history with a fifty point game. Sort of cool. Ball

1044
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 1: is the fifth player this season to score fifty, joins Fox,

1045
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 1: Giannis Paolo, and Wemby. And Ball's previous career high was

1046
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 1: thirty eight, which sounds like a mistake that that guy

1047
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 1: never even eclipsed forty. But now he's got fifty. Okay,

1048
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 1: So that's the good. I mean, that's a hell of

1049
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 1: a game. The bad It required a lot of shots,

1050
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 1: a whole lot of LaMelo Bowl shots. I thought it

1051
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 1: was thirty eight total seventeen to three point attempts. He

1052
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:52,759
Speaker 1: did this in forty minutes of action to get to

1053
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:56,280
Speaker 1: the half century mark, and it all came in a loss.

1054
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 1: That's the other part of the bad here. LaMelo Ball,

1055
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:01,880
Speaker 1: though he is shooting a whole lot this season. He

1056
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:05,839
Speaker 1: is averaging twenty four shots per game and over half

1057
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 1: of them from three twelve point three three point attempts

1058
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:12,239
Speaker 1: per game. Over fifty percent of his attempts come from

1059
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 1: behind the line, which is astonishing. I mean, he's hitting

1060
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 1: a decent percentage, but that's a lot and it came

1061
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 1: in a loss. And then the ugly Hornets forward Grant

1062
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 1: Williams sustained season ending tears to the ACL meniscus and

1063
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:29,319
Speaker 1: associated ligaments in his right knee in the same game

1064
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:33,839
Speaker 1: on Saturday. Look gross right away. I mean he man,

1065
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:36,880
Speaker 1: he sort of popped up though, and tried to run

1066
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 1: it off and then was like, I can't run, had

1067
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 1: to be like sort of helped off. It looked bad.

1068
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:41,919
Speaker 3: It is bad.

1069
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:44,919
Speaker 1: He's out for the season, and that's a big loss,

1070
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 1: especially when you consider the Hornets don't have their other

1071
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:49,839
Speaker 1: Williams and Mark Williams. He hasn't played a game all season,

1072
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 1: He hasn't played in a year. Yeah, he's got the

1073
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:54,319
Speaker 1: foot injury. Nick Richards has only played in five games.

1074
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:57,359
Speaker 1: He has a rib injury. And Grant Williams like he's

1075
00:47:57,400 --> 00:47:59,320
Speaker 1: easy to clown on, Don't get me wrong, but like

1076
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 1: is a vet on that team has a relationship with

1077
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 1: Charles Lee from the Boston d's and he's done. Okay,

1078
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:07,279
Speaker 1: he's like average ten and five, but he's like really

1079
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 1: helped they're improvement on the defensive end. So now they

1080
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:12,880
Speaker 1: lose him. So that's the good, the bend, and the

1081
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 1: ugly for the Hornets this weekend.

1082
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 2: Well, I love the movie.

1083
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 7: I love the ugly character. Shout out to Tuco is

1084
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:20,440
Speaker 7: the funniest guy in the entire movie to me. But

1085
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:23,440
Speaker 7: unfortunately there's no tall guys left for the Hornets right now,

1086
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 7: because you mentioned Richards and.

1087
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 2: Williams are out.

1088
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:28,200
Speaker 7: Brandon Miller he is tally six nine, but he plays

1089
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 7: on the wing, so it's like Todd Gibson and Mussa Diabate.

1090
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:33,360
Speaker 2: One of the great offensive rebounders in the league right now.

1091
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:35,879
Speaker 2: This guy is a terror on the glass. But yeah,

1092
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 2: the Hornets, they're like a minor.

1093
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:41,000
Speaker 7: They got a minor in Pelicans, I think because they

1094
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 7: were banged up all last season. LaMelo, we know, hasn't

1095
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:45,319
Speaker 7: really been able to stay on the court. He's doing

1096
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:47,320
Speaker 7: a good job this season. I like the way he's playing.

1097
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:50,319
Speaker 7: He's definitely looking for his shot more often. Thirty seven

1098
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:53,319
Speaker 7: attempts is pretty sick. But what I think brandon Ingram

1099
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 7: Brandon Miller took twenty three shots in that game as well.

1100
00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:58,239
Speaker 7: They know where their bread is buttered, and these are

1101
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 7: our two scorers. So yeah, we preseason we thought maybe

1102
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:07,359
Speaker 7: the Hornets could challenge for a play and spot, maybe

1103
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:08,880
Speaker 7: they'd be in the mix for the ten seed. And

1104
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 7: maybe they will be, you know, because you don't need

1105
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 7: a lot of wins to be in the mix. But

1106
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:16,840
Speaker 7: I still think a kind of a disappointing start to

1107
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 7: the year for Charlotte.

1108
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, the similarities too to the Pelicans. To keep that

1109
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:23,920
Speaker 1: trend going. It's like there are flashes of brilliants. There

1110
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:25,879
Speaker 1: are flashes you catch them on the right night where

1111
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:28,959
Speaker 1: you're like convinced in them as a as a unit,

1112
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:31,319
Speaker 1: as a team moving forward, as young talent. And then

1113
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:34,280
Speaker 1: you know, again a lot of it is injury based.

1114
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:36,360
Speaker 1: Is just like, oh, it's so deflating, and you just

1115
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 1: don't get to see weeks of it at a time

1116
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 1: to see if it's real and to see really what

1117
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:42,799
Speaker 1: they have. So yeah, there are some similarities. Yeah, they're

1118
00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:45,759
Speaker 1: like that's the funny part, right, just because they're in

1119
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 1: the Eastern Conference. It's like it's not that bad. You know,

1120
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 1: they're six and ten. They're right there. Pelicans were saying

1121
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:55,120
Speaker 1: complete waste, the season's done, just like wave the white

1122
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:57,359
Speaker 1: Flag trade everybody, you're out of it in the West.

1123
00:49:57,400 --> 00:49:58,759
Speaker 1: But it's there's some truth to a test.

1124
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:02,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, and especially because LaMelo Ball, who hasn't been able

1125
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:04,880
Speaker 4: to stay healthy his whole career, is healthy and so

1126
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:07,800
Speaker 4: there's that part of it to him. And as showing

1127
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:10,839
Speaker 4: what Brandon Miller can be. I mean, those two guys

1128
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:14,719
Speaker 4: here are balled together. They look good offensively, Yeah, and

1129
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:16,920
Speaker 4: now they lost their heart of their defense, so that

1130
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:20,440
Speaker 4: bode's extremely bad for the rest of the season. But yeah,

1131
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 4: there's some really good games that they have where they

1132
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:24,400
Speaker 4: go head to head and they go to the end

1133
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:27,520
Speaker 4: of the game, but now they're missing there again, they're glue.

1134
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:31,479
Speaker 3: So that's yeah, for the rest of the season.

1135
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:33,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, another loser of the weekend. Two King's got to

1136
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:35,960
Speaker 1: be slipped in here. They got crushed by the Clippers

1137
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 1: in one of those games, and then they followed it

1138
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 1: up by losing to the Nets, and they are getting

1139
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 1: next to zero production from their bench, and I start

1140
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:45,480
Speaker 1: to wonder if the Kings are a team that need

1141
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:47,800
Speaker 1: to make some sort of trade and maybe get like

1142
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:50,000
Speaker 1: I don't know if they could get Dorian Phinney Smith.

1143
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 1: I think Kevin Herder would easily be included in any

1144
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 1: sort of deal. But that's a bad weekend from Sacramento,

1145
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:00,040
Speaker 1: just a frustrating team.

1146
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 4: Adventures is struggling. But Kevin her who's starting every single

1147
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 4: game coming back from his injury, and he hasn't made

1148
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:10,280
Speaker 4: it this season. No, that's a that's a huge problem.

1149
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 1: No, that's why they, I think, would gladly trade him.

1150
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 1: But Mike Brown really loves that guy too.

1151
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 7: That's why they need to trade him. Sometimes, Like there's

1152
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 7: a guy you play too much and you just got

1153
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 7: to get him out of here. Kevin Herder plays thirty

1154
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:23,799
Speaker 7: minutes a game's shooting twenty nine percent three and he's

1155
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:28,000
Speaker 7: out there for shooting. But it's also, you know, like

1156
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:30,359
Speaker 7: we're saying with Zion, tough to trade a guy when

1157
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 7: they're playing their absolute worse than play.

1158
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:34,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, what are you getting back? But they need

1159
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:36,239
Speaker 2: a little a little spice, a little something.

1160
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 1: Yeh. All right, those are our winners and losers of

1161
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:41,080
Speaker 1: the NBA weekend. I know there's still a lot more

1162
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:42,719
Speaker 1: to pick from. Let us know, in the stream team

1163
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:44,280
Speaker 1: right now, let's know in the YouTube comments or tweet

1164
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:46,520
Speaker 1: him in at No dunk Sinc. All right, pick him

1165
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:49,680
Speaker 1: game for tonight. This is a short week being Thanksgiving,

1166
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:53,400
Speaker 1: so really only three nights left here in our November

1167
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:56,120
Speaker 1: pick a battle. The loser last place guy will have

1168
00:51:56,239 --> 00:52:01,520
Speaker 1: to eat a giant ass Costco pumpkin pie after Thanksgiving

1169
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:04,200
Speaker 1: is over, when you're already pumpkin pied out and it's

1170
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 1: tight tasks. It's like two games separate you in first

1171
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:10,200
Speaker 1: place and tray in last place. So it's a lot

1172
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:11,320
Speaker 1: can happen here still.

1173
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:14,440
Speaker 4: Right, and being that Thanksgiving, I thought, well, maybe all

1174
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:17,000
Speaker 4: the pumpkin pies will be gone at the beginning this week.

1175
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 4: But I think in Costco, Nah, I think Costco is

1176
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:26,880
Speaker 4: just a great, great department of pumpkin makers. They I

1177
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:28,719
Speaker 4: don't know how they pumped them out. They pump out

1178
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:32,360
Speaker 4: five dollars ninety nine cent pumpkin pies, just over and

1179
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 4: over and over. There's pumpkin cheesecake in there right now.

1180
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:37,359
Speaker 4: I don't know how they do it, how they sell

1181
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:39,120
Speaker 4: it so cheap, but people come in and buy them.

1182
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:42,440
Speaker 1: When are we buying ours for the pick and pay when.

1183
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:45,920
Speaker 3: It's fifty percent off after Thanksgiving, oh black credit.

1184
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:49,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, good thinking money Mills.

1185
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:53,240
Speaker 4: The Mavericks are visiting the Atlanta Hawks, the old Luca

1186
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:57,439
Speaker 4: trade matchup, but Luca will not be playing in this game.

1187
00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:00,160
Speaker 4: The Hawks are just a very small favorite, only one

1188
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 4: and a half, so you're basically picking out a pick them.

1189
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:06,839
Speaker 3: It's a pick the winner here and it's a split Sea.

1190
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:10,399
Speaker 4: Yeah, myself and Trey are taking the MAVs coming here

1191
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:13,160
Speaker 4: to Atlanta. They had won four in a row before

1192
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:16,240
Speaker 4: yesterday against the Miami Heat. When it went to overtime,

1193
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:19,640
Speaker 4: they almost wanted. Lots of great play at the end. Yeah,

1194
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 4: you got Spencer din weading blocking shots. What Yeah, Derk

1195
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:27,239
Speaker 4: Lively doing great things offensively coming to Atlanta here, who

1196
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:29,759
Speaker 4: just had a long trip, first game back from a

1197
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:33,160
Speaker 4: four game road trip, which I never get excited for

1198
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:35,160
Speaker 4: the first game and you start a little slowly. But

1199
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:38,239
Speaker 4: Skeets and esh are taking Atlanta in this one.

1200
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:40,560
Speaker 1: Yeah. PJ. Washington would have been in the running for

1201
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 1: Winter of the Weekend maybe had they pulled that one

1202
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:44,440
Speaker 1: out against the Heat there cue, I know we had

1203
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:46,560
Speaker 1: a good game prior to that with no Luca. Yeah,

1204
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:48,800
Speaker 1: taking the Hawks. No one loves to do that, but

1205
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:54,400
Speaker 1: close line, they're favored. Come on, Dallas, back to back situation,

1206
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:56,719
Speaker 1: third road game in four nights for the Gods and

1207
00:53:56,840 --> 00:53:57,880
Speaker 1: overtime included.

1208
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:01,239
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, geez, that's why I took thee looks like

1209
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 7: a game the Hawks should win.

1210
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:04,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, Unfortunately that's true. Unfortunately that's true, but we're split.

1211
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 1: So me and esh with the Hawks got to win

1212
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:09,239
Speaker 1: by two or more. You guys got the maths. Good

1213
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:11,000
Speaker 1: luck to everybody that's a big one tonight because there

1214
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:13,480
Speaker 1: will be two nights left after that for the month

1215
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:17,480
Speaker 1: of November. Tonight we will be live on playback around

1216
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:19,759
Speaker 1: nine pm Eastern. That's been working well for us, sort

1217
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:22,719
Speaker 1: of going live when we get into the second half

1218
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 1: and later action of those first games games starting at

1219
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:28,759
Speaker 1: seven and seven thirty, and we see those games through

1220
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 1: their entirety and sometimes stick around a little bit longer

1221
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:33,840
Speaker 1: for whatever the eight o'clock game is, depending on it.

1222
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:38,600
Speaker 1: But tonight Magic Hornets, Raps, Pistons, Pells, Pacers, Mavericks, Hawks,

1223
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:42,440
Speaker 1: Clip Celtics is seven thirty start there in Boston and

1224
00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:45,080
Speaker 1: Blazer's Grizzlies at eight, and then the later games are

1225
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:49,440
Speaker 1: Nick Nuggs Nets Warriors and thunder Kings. So see you

1226
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:53,080
Speaker 1: boys tonight in those playback streets, and I encourage you

1227
00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:54,920
Speaker 1: to join us. A lot of fun watching the games together.

1228
00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:59,640
Speaker 1: That link is in the show notes. Anything else or

1229
00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:00,560
Speaker 1: should we say goodbye?

1230
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:03,360
Speaker 3: Nothing for me?

1231
00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:08,600
Speaker 2: Nothing for me, Clipper Brooks, you heard it here first,

1232
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:12,040
Speaker 2: have a great time, turn up, love you guys awesome.

1233
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:15,640
Speaker 4: Thanks for joining us. And remember Zion Lynchton has a

1234
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:17,920
Speaker 4: tattoo on his back. I'm just reading the comments here.

1235
00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:22,279
Speaker 4: Some people are saying it it's weird. You guys like

1236
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:24,279
Speaker 4: that tattoo. I like, I like the mask.

1237
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:26,880
Speaker 1: I think it's Oh, it's our actual tattoo itself. You

1238
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:29,400
Speaker 1: mean it's weird. Okay, I thought you back tattoos in general,

1239
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:30,680
Speaker 1: but you know this one.

1240
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 3: People are saying it's weird. I liked it.

1241
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:35,200
Speaker 2: Frightening.

1242
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:36,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's intimidating.

1243
00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:40,040
Speaker 3: I guess it's good for a basketball player. I mean

1244
00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:43,160
Speaker 3: good for an athlete, Okay, So I.

1245
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:46,000
Speaker 1: Mean but he never plays, so I guess he has

1246
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:48,279
Speaker 1: to take his shirt off and turn around and sit

1247
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:51,480
Speaker 1: like he's, uh, I don't know, like a backstreet boy

1248
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 1: or something on his chair to show off his back tat.

1249
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:56,960
Speaker 4: While the game's going yeah, maybe you get it printed

1250
00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:01,400
Speaker 4: and get it printed and I'll let him be your

1251
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:05,600
Speaker 4: advertising on your jersey. Now that doesn't really make sense,

1252
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:08,080
Speaker 4: like get your tattoo printed and advertise that.

1253
00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:11,440
Speaker 1: Instead, they made LaMelo Ball cover up his tattoo by

1254
00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:15,200
Speaker 1: his ear because of branding. And then they were like, okay,

1255
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:17,880
Speaker 1: this sort of his name, it's his middle name, because

1256
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:19,560
Speaker 1: now he doesn't have to cover it anymore. I remember

1257
00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:21,040
Speaker 1: that it was like a couple of weeks ago, that

1258
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:24,120
Speaker 1: big blue tape on it. Yeah, all right, we will

1259
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 1: see you tonight on playback. Otherwise we'll see you here

1260
00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 1: in the Classic Factory tomorrow morning. Racing people,