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Speaker 1: the night is a news Cap got the NFL will
Speaker 1: will not propose the band the Toush will not propose
Speaker 1: band for the Toush Plus in twenty twenty four. NFL
Speaker 1: executive Troy Benson reiterated today that the Tousch push will
Speaker 1: remain in legal play for the twenty twenty fourth season.
Speaker 1: Is it best to say, let's just leave it alone.
Speaker 1: Somebody stop it? Yep, Yeah, that's all.
Speaker 5: Somebody stop it, because if you think about it, there's
Speaker 5: only one team that's very efficient at the tousbush anyway,
Speaker 5: and that's the Eagles, right, They're the only team that
Speaker 5: seemed to be able to get it. So team need
Speaker 5: to figure out a way to stop the touch push,
Speaker 5: or don't allow them to have short distance. You stop
Speaker 5: them on first and second, you won't have to worry
Speaker 5: about third and one, you won't have to worry about
Speaker 5: fourth and one. But listen, now, the only team that
Speaker 5: are really good at it, there's no need to stop it.
Speaker 5: It's a part of the game. It's a part of football.
Speaker 5: And if we start, if we start making rules to
Speaker 5: stop some of the small nuances that other team struggle
Speaker 5: to stop, then they're gonna start nickpicking and finding other
Speaker 5: ways to stop other plays.
Speaker 3: That people do as well. Ain't that big of a deal.
Speaker 1: I understand why people because Oho, before you couldn't aid
Speaker 1: the runner, which means you couldn't push him.
Speaker 2: Now they say you can push him, you just can't
Speaker 2: pull it.
Speaker 1: You remember, before the guy get close to the end zone,
Speaker 1: his offensive linel put.
Speaker 3: In the lineman pull.
Speaker 1: You can't do that, but you can get behind him
Speaker 1: and shove him. And so that's basically what the touch
Speaker 1: push is. But Jalen Hurts squad six hundred pounds, he
Speaker 1: has tremendous leg drive. The offensive lineman they get low
Speaker 1: and then you know, sometimes he hits the hole right
Speaker 1: behind the center of the a gap. Sometimes he goes
Speaker 1: a little further off and he had somebody in behind
Speaker 1: him that's giving him a shove. So I agree with you, Ojo.
Speaker 1: I think teams need to come up with a way
Speaker 1: to try and stop it. Good luck with that, because
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts has such a leg drive that it's really
Speaker 1: hard for teams to stop him. And they've done a
Speaker 1: great job. They mastered it. They were the first team
Speaker 1: that we saw do this. They've gotten really, really good
Speaker 1: at it. We've seen a lot of teams try to
Speaker 1: replicate it, but none of them to the success of.
Speaker 2: What this Josh Allon is about that. But Josh Allen
Speaker 2: is sixty five, two hundred and fifty five.
Speaker 1: Pounds, so it's fifty pounds. So good luck trying to
Speaker 1: stop that. But I think they're gonna leave it alone.
Speaker 1: I mean, they've tried this, what the third year in
Speaker 1: the row that they've had discussions about stopping it and
Speaker 1: they haven't come up with They haven't said, now, we're
Speaker 1: gonna leave it in one more year.
Speaker 3: Listen, listen.
Speaker 5: It's part of the game, man, It's part of the game.
Speaker 5: It's football. And defensively, just listen. Crowd the box, crowded box,
Speaker 5: even more, showlder pad is showlder Pad, low Man wins
Speaker 5: leverage that that's all this. You just got to fire off.
Speaker 1: And then guess what happened now they low Man, they
Speaker 1: figured into the line that pop up, they throw the
Speaker 1: pass down the field.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: But being on with Jason Kelsey retiring the All Pro Center,
Speaker 1: the All World Center for the Eagles, will it still
Speaker 1: be to have the same effectiveness?
Speaker 3: You know what, I'm not sure. I'm not sure.
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm sure there would be somewhat of a
Speaker 5: drop off from with Jason Kelsey leaving in another center
Speaker 5: coming in. But obviously you got to learn the technique.
Speaker 5: You got to learn the technique to keep that keep
Speaker 5: the show going.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's tough.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's he was so good at getting low
Speaker 1: and you know, crawling and rooting people up out of
Speaker 1: there getting that because at first your center can't get
Speaker 1: stigny because if he gets tigny, where does the quarterback go?
Speaker 1: So he has to get some exactly exactly, so he
Speaker 1: has to get some momentum. He did a great job
Speaker 1: of that, and the only thing you can do is
Speaker 1: try to guess the snapcount, try to jump the snap,
Speaker 1: but then that's when they get you off side and
Speaker 1: they get a free five yards and so you don't
Speaker 1: even have to use the to push.
Speaker 2: It's a very difficult play to stop.
Speaker 1: The Egos have done a great job of the technique
Speaker 1: clearly is something that you can tell kind of like
Speaker 1: a rugby scrum that they've mastered in which they get
Speaker 1: the low man wins and they know the snap count.
Speaker 2: So kudos for them for coming up with something.
Speaker 1: But I'm glad they don't stop this play because somebody's
Speaker 1: gonna say, well, you know what, hey, Patrick Mahone's throwing
Speaker 1: for ten touchdowns on this one play.
Speaker 5: We can't let it do that. So where where do
Speaker 5: we stop? So Steve got a jorder line. At some
Speaker 5: point you have to join the line. At some point
Speaker 5: they've already handicapped the game. Enough, let's let's let's slow
Speaker 5: it down.
Speaker 1: There they about to have they about to have that,
Speaker 1: about to handicap the game again. NFL ev P Troy
Speaker 1: Vincent also reiterated the hip drop tackle is something we
Speaker 1: want to get out of our game. He added, the
Speaker 1: greatest asset for any athlete is durability and availability. When
Speaker 1: you have a play that has twenty five twenty to
Speaker 1: twenty five times the injury rate, it doesn't allow you
Speaker 1: to fulfill your dreams. Now, I told you this, old Joe,
Speaker 1: I said, they gonna get that a lot of them.
Speaker 2: I said, because the injury is too great.
Speaker 1: You rarely see somebody get that tackle and come back
Speaker 1: the same the next play. They always memp off the field.
Speaker 1: We've seen Tony Poller get injured. We've seen Patrick Mahone
Speaker 1: get injured that play. We've seen so many guys. Dak
Speaker 1: Prescott got injured. With the hip hip drop tackle. I
Speaker 1: just knew because the high rate of injury, that they
Speaker 1: were gonna do up them with it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, most definitely, I knew you were right. Obviously.
Speaker 5: I think one of the things I think about, I'm
Speaker 5: just thinking about physics, the laws of gravity. If you
Speaker 5: have someone pulling you down, I would just go with
Speaker 5: the fall. Now, that's the way to counter it. If
Speaker 5: they didn't, If they didn't ban the hip drop tackle,
Speaker 5: if you feel that pressure, just let it go. Is
Speaker 5: when you try to fight it, when you try to
Speaker 5: continue to get more yards after. But again, it's a
Speaker 5: great call for them, I mean for Troy Vincent and
Speaker 5: the NFL Competition Committee excuse me to ban the hip
Speaker 5: drop tackle because a lot of players, for one, that
Speaker 5: have gotten hurt. Some have recovered. Patrick Mahomes obviously, Yeah
Speaker 5: it took it to seem to Super Bowl, but he
Speaker 5: did have a bad angle. He had a bad off
Speaker 5: of that drop tackle. So but again it's a good
Speaker 5: thing again for the defenders. The defenders, now you're going
Speaker 5: to have to be a little bit more disciplined on
Speaker 5: your angles when you tackle. Now if somebody, if somebody
Speaker 5: is getting away from you, I think It's an advantage
Speaker 5: of the offensive players as well, because as you tend
Speaker 5: to break away, if you're a little bit, if you're
Speaker 5: a little bit faster than the person that's chasing you,
Speaker 5: he damn they're gonna have to just let you go.
Speaker 5: You're gonna have to let you go, even if he's
Speaker 5: in arm right, if he's in arms length to be
Speaker 5: able to reach and grab now you can.
Speaker 3: I think that if you think about it, o.
Speaker 1: Jo, I think the thing what happened is is that
Speaker 1: they've seen this when I don't remember this now, it
Speaker 1: might have happened because I was looking at the tackle.
Speaker 1: I do remember the horse collar tackle happening, But there
Speaker 1: was not a whole lot this. This player has come
Speaker 1: in say heavily, like the last five years. This wasn't
Speaker 1: in there when you first got to the league. You
Speaker 1: didn't see a whole lot of tackles like this. So Joe,
Speaker 1: I don't remember seeing a whole lot of tackles when
Speaker 1: I got into the league, and even when I was
Speaker 1: exited at the end of two thousand and three. But
Speaker 1: over the last five years, you see, you've seen a
Speaker 1: guy at Ojo. I knew that I could put my
Speaker 1: helmet on the guy me a certain way that I
Speaker 1: can injure it. I know that you know what's gonna
Speaker 1: happen when you when you drop all of your weight
Speaker 1: eight if you a dB whatever your weight is one
Speaker 1: eight of the two oh five. If you alignebacker, you
Speaker 1: two thirty to two fifty, you drop all your dead
Speaker 1: weight on a man that standing up right. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: already know what's gonna happen to get to get in
Speaker 1: other yep.
Speaker 5: That's why I said the only counter offensively for players.
Speaker 5: I mean, if you, if you're smart and you feel
Speaker 5: the force of someone with they wait on you to
Speaker 5: just go with it, just flow with.
Speaker 3: It and then prevent injury.
Speaker 5: But again this is the right call by the NFL
Speaker 5: Committee and the Competition Committee and Troy Vincon because the
Speaker 5: luck again defensive players again yet again are at a disadvantage.
Speaker 1: Well they's what they've said is that in games scoring
Speaker 1: have gone a game, the game scoring has dropped the
Speaker 1: last three season. They want to see upticking. That that's
Speaker 1: why they that's why they instituted the rules to begin with.
Speaker 1: The defenseless receiver, the quarterback, you know, not not hitting
Speaker 1: the defensives, quarterback driving the quarterback into the turf. Uh
Speaker 1: incidental contact. They're trying, they won't scoring. The fans have
Speaker 1: already spoken as much as they say, Oh it's flag football.
Speaker 1: You love that. You love the thirty five to thirty
Speaker 1: eight ball game. You love the forty one thirty eight
Speaker 1: ball games. You love the overtime ball game that end
Speaker 1: thirty one to twenty eight. You got tired of the
Speaker 1: ten sevens. You got tired of that. You got tired
Speaker 1: of seven sets. It's just like baseball. Oh, the purists
Speaker 1: lack a game two one. But the fan, the purists,
Speaker 1: they're not enough purists that was going to the game,
Speaker 1: that was watching the game, So they wanted to see
Speaker 1: a nine to eight ball game in baseball.
Speaker 5: They want yet, they want to see they want to
Speaker 5: see the home runs basketball.
Speaker 2: You see what they did. They made the Lotter route,
Speaker 2: They spaced the floor.
Speaker 1: Now they the three point shot and nine teams are
Speaker 1: getting up and down the court. And you see in
Speaker 1: one thirty one, thirty eight to one, thirty five, one
Speaker 1: to one thirty the game a couple of weeks, a
Speaker 1: couple of months ago, one fifty three to one fifty one.
Speaker 1: That's what fans like to see. I don't want to
Speaker 1: and I'm not lying. I don't want to see. If
Speaker 1: I go to a basketball game, I don't want to see. No, damn,
Speaker 1: seventy eight to seventy one.
Speaker 3: Well, I have a question.
Speaker 5: If you have teams in basketball scoring at such a
Speaker 5: high rate, does that mean there's a lack of defense
Speaker 5: as well?
Speaker 2: It is a lack of defense.
Speaker 1: But they they the rules they called I think they
Speaker 1: call a little bit more ticket attack.
Speaker 2: Gil was saying that the hand check.
Speaker 1: They stopped the hand check, but he said the handshack
Speaker 1: have always been banned below the free throw line.
Speaker 2: But back back.
Speaker 1: When, back in the eighties or not, they are on
Speaker 1: bar you They're like, nah, you ain't you ain't. You
Speaker 1: ain't backing me down. But right, fans like scoring, no
Speaker 1: matter what the sport is, be a hockey, uh, soccer, baseball, basketball, football,
Speaker 1: people like scoring.
Speaker 3: They know what that is.
Speaker 1: They they the ball goes into the net, somebody cross
Speaker 1: the ars on ojoe, they know what that is.
Speaker 2: That's universal.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know who we were. I don't know
Speaker 2: who it was. Hey got Taylor swill Taylor will say yes, yes.
Speaker 3: We winning?
Speaker 2: Who is we?
Speaker 1: I don't know if somebody's scoring, right, everybody else standing up.
Speaker 1: I'm standing up too, So that's what we're gonna have.
Speaker 1: So the tush push stays at least for another year,
Speaker 1: and Tory Business reiterates that something has to happen with
Speaker 1: the hill drop tackle. So I'm not gonna be surprised
Speaker 1: if they have. If that's gonna be a penalty, and
Speaker 1: you could imagine a fine that's coming with that, that's
Speaker 1: gonna be a thirty even a first defense final gona
Speaker 1: probably be somewhere right.
Speaker 3: It's thirty thousand, yeah, most definitely.
Speaker 5: Obviously it's fifteen yards if you if you have to
Speaker 5: hip hip, if you have to execute the hip drop
Speaker 5: tackle to make a play. But also I think the fine,
Speaker 5: I think it'll start off for five thousand. Oh no,
Speaker 5: I think it's started from five thousand.
Speaker 1: No, you because the horse collar tackle is about thirty
Speaker 1: about twenty five thousands? What's the what's the flag? Can
Speaker 1: we look at U requickation? Oh yeah, I'm gonna help
Speaker 1: ask look it up too. Oh no, no, no, hell now?
Speaker 5: But faith hold on twenty twenty five, thirty thousand for
Speaker 5: a first offense. Yeah, I'm shit, I'm had i'ma have
Speaker 5: to peel that. I'm gonna have to peel last, and
Speaker 5: we need to work something out.
Speaker 1: What you got an apple or orange? Because that's the
Speaker 1: only thing you're gonna peel. You ain't gonna get that fireation.
Speaker 5: Hey, well they may may I give him a check
Speaker 5: post post date, post date.
Speaker 3: Don't cast it yet?
Speaker 1: Uh sixteen out sixteen thousand, three hundred four first.
Speaker 5: Offense Okay, okay, okay, I mean with the money they
Speaker 5: making today, that's not bad. I'm stuck in my time.
Speaker 5: That's why I'm still thinking first offense is gonna be
Speaker 5: five thousands. Hell now, yeah, they don'et went up.
Speaker 3: They don't went up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it ain't.
Speaker 1: Mm hm no, hell now, Oh, Joe, I mean, bro
Speaker 1: when you mean what you thought of?
Speaker 2: Broh, You've been retired a decade. You keep you, you
Speaker 2: keep telling that the cost of living the cost of
Speaker 2: living keep increasing?
Speaker 3: Yeah, keep increasing?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 5: Oh, so so so does the fine money. Okay, Okay,
Speaker 5: that's that's why I said that. With the money they
Speaker 5: making today. Okay, you're right, you're right, you're right.
Speaker 3: Hey. The fact that what I've been retired the whole decade, what.
Speaker 1: You don't it don't e four. So you did you
Speaker 1: play into twenty thirteen? You've been you've been going to
Speaker 1: decade the leaves right, God damn. You came in two
Speaker 1: thousand and one. You say you played, I came in.
Speaker 1: I came into two time in two thousands.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, what was your last year in the league? Shoot
Speaker 3: twenty one? Because I played in I played in Canada
Speaker 3: and I played in Mexico.
Speaker 2: Twenty eleven with your last year, So yeah, you've been
Speaker 2: going to decade?
Speaker 3: Yeah, God, leave man, And you know it's funny.
Speaker 1: Yeah, bought a decade. Yeah, twenty elevel with your last year.
Speaker 1: So you've been gone by thirteen years. Because I've been going.
Speaker 1: I've been going two decades.
Speaker 3: Damn.
Speaker 5: Ain't know it's funny about that. I've been going for
Speaker 5: a decade. And I can still play Madden.
Speaker 3: No, I ain't. No, I ain't talk about mad like.
Speaker 5: I can still go out there and play right now
Speaker 5: because I'm in such elite shapes still, because I just
Speaker 5: never know when that called my card.
Speaker 3: I never know. I stay ready because if you stay ready,
Speaker 3: ain't got to get ready.
Speaker 2: Shapes pair eggs, those are shapes. You ain't taking this
Speaker 2: I'm just telling your.
Speaker 1: Spidery sis, don't tingle anymore because they've been the team
Speaker 1: down too long.
Speaker 5: Now they ain't been down because I've been doing other
Speaker 5: things that keep them things intact. My spikey point, last
Speaker 5: time you play a football.
Speaker 3: Game, oh two days ago? Oh no, I play, I play.
Speaker 3: I tell you I play rugby.
Speaker 2: That's a different type.
Speaker 1: The spider says, Hey, that's a different that's a different
Speaker 1: type of week. Hold on, you told you just told,
Speaker 1: like Chad earlier season, you get it in shape of
Speaker 1: football by playing football. Now you say you sharpen your
Speaker 1: senses doing other things.
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, you can listen, stay with me.
Speaker 5: Now, there's a way to work on all your senses
Speaker 5: without actually having to play the game. There are other
Speaker 5: things that can substitute and keep your spidy senses intact.
Speaker 5: That's something that I've always done just in case. Listen,
Speaker 5: I would never play football again. But I'm just playing.
Speaker 5: I'm just saying, in general, I do other things to
Speaker 5: give me that same madrinion rush, that same the unknown,
Speaker 5: the same butterflies.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's my life. You You took the words
Speaker 3: right out of my mouth.
Speaker 5: A roller coaster boxing playing tennis like doing things, but
Speaker 5: at at at somewhat of a high level, as high
Speaker 5: as I.
Speaker 3: Can get and keep it keeps my senses going.
Speaker 1: How do you and how do you heighten your sense
Speaker 1: of taste without tasting? M hm, how do you? Oh,
Speaker 1: I'll be I'll be tasting. I know you be taking
Speaker 1: and you know you're saying sty.
Speaker 3: Well, it depends, it depends. She showed we.
Speaker 2: Were moving on. Well he's talking about that because you know.
Speaker 5: Okay, okay, ain't nothing roll a little tart man, you know,
Speaker 5: little tart Let twain to it.
Speaker 3: But go ahead. See I already know.
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Speaker 2: Looking at talking about damn good that they taste like
Speaker 2: late text.
Speaker 8: Man, don't Joe Man see you got me look put
Speaker 8: my hair off, man, put my hair, Let me put
Speaker 8: my hair wrists back on and move this compensational lorde man,
Speaker 8: Bear's Jayleen.
Speaker 1: Mad my bad, my bad, my bad bad, Bear's Jayleen,
Speaker 1: John said Caleb Williams. Camp brings down Hollywood stuff. Let's
Speaker 1: take a listen to the side where Jalen told k Adams.
Speaker 4: Honestly, you just you just humble yourself coming in the building.
Speaker 2: I thought.
Speaker 4: It's one of those things where it's like you can't,
Speaker 4: like you said, you can't bring that Hollywood stuff into
Speaker 4: the building, especially now with guys who played this game
Speaker 4: I thought at a high level for for consecutive years
Speaker 4: in the league. It's just something that guys like myself,
Speaker 4: guys like Tremaine TJ. I mean, just the vets now,
Speaker 4: Keenan Allen, I mean you just adding certain guys in
Speaker 4: the locker room.
Speaker 2: I fight you, We're gonna, We're gonna see through.
Speaker 4: And it's like, na, that what you did in college,
Speaker 4: the Hollywood, It's like now that that that you got
Speaker 4: to pool yourself.
Speaker 5: Come on, Jayalen, I mean, look, come on, Jayalen. You
Speaker 5: can't stereotype the man because he went to USC. Baby,
Speaker 5: I mean you got you got the Jaylen.
Speaker 3: You got to know.
Speaker 5: You got to know Caleb Williams personally before you make
Speaker 5: the assumption that he is Hollywood. I understand that's where
Speaker 5: he played. He played at USC, but he's given me
Speaker 5: no reason to think that he's coming to the NFL
Speaker 5: for this old Hollywood approach, you know, But I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't think it's a slight on Cayler Williams.
Speaker 5: I understand what Jalen Johnson is talking about, just coming
Speaker 5: in being yourself, you know, and just just playing ball,
Speaker 5: doing what you did at USC but at the highest level.
Speaker 5: I just you gotta get get a man a chance. Yes,
Speaker 5: get a man of chance. Let him come in. That's
Speaker 5: that's that's your quarterback, that's that's your leader, you know. So,
Speaker 5: I mean, I don't think he was trying to be rude,
Speaker 5: to be mean, because I don't think he knows Caleb
Speaker 5: Willim personally. To make that assumption, that's Hollywood based off
Speaker 5: the school he went to.
Speaker 1: What's understood doesn't need to be spoken. We understand everyone.
Speaker 1: You come in there and have to earn his stripes.
Speaker 1: We didn't say anything, but you ad better believe if
Speaker 1: you want an a war and we want to see
Speaker 1: why you.
Speaker 2: Won that award.
Speaker 1: Be a Buckeye, be at the Heisman, be at the Thorp,
Speaker 1: be at the Mackie.
Speaker 3: It didn't matter. We needed to see.
Speaker 1: When we got the camp, we put those fans on
Speaker 1: why he won that award. There was nothing, there's nothing
Speaker 1: need to be saying. What's understood doesn't need to be said.
Speaker 1: So I think Caleb with I don't like I said,
Speaker 1: I don't know Caleb. I know who he is, I
Speaker 1: don't know him from a candapaign, but I think he
Speaker 1: comes in there with the right attitude showing that Okay,
Speaker 1: yes I'm a rookie, I'm gonna have to earn being
Speaker 1: number one.
Speaker 2: That don't make you the leader.
Speaker 1: Now you're gonna have to commit because you're gonna have
Speaker 1: to convince a lot of those guys that have been
Speaker 1: in the league five years, seven years, eight years, nine years,
Speaker 1: TENU League years that you can lead them. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: what you're gonna That's what you're gonna have to convince.
Speaker 1: That's why it's so important for the quarterback to be
Speaker 1: because he's the guy that you're gonna be asking to
Speaker 1: lead your offense man.
Speaker 3: And a lot of.
Speaker 1: Times the quarterback, for the most part, is probably one
Speaker 1: of the youngest, especially in today's time, because the day
Speaker 1: we ain't got no thirteen fourteen year quarterbacks in the league.
Speaker 3: Not many, not many.
Speaker 2: And so I get what Jalen Johnson is saying, but
Speaker 2: I agree with you. You got to.
Speaker 1: Give the man the benefit of the doubt until he
Speaker 1: shows you otherwise, then you could say roll pulling to
Speaker 1: the sides.
Speaker 2: Of a bro.
Speaker 1: Hey, hey, they're in Hollywood. That what you do and
Speaker 1: what you did in the USCA that the ain't gonna
Speaker 1: cut it.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. You know.
Speaker 5: The funny thing about it is, even when you say
Speaker 5: what he did at USC, I have seen nothing that
Speaker 5: would say, you know what, God damn man, his mannerism,
Speaker 5: the way he act, oh man, he Hollywood. All all
Speaker 5: I can base stuff off of is what the fuck
Speaker 5: out saw on film. And if I were Jalen Johnson, Hell,
Speaker 5: if I was God damn keenan Allen or received on
Speaker 5: that goddamn team. Oh man, I'm hype because I understand
Speaker 5: what I got it to Helm that's getting ready to
Speaker 5: lead us, oh man. And listen, buddy, is the real deal.
Speaker 5: We talk about any immense talent. We talked about a
Speaker 5: generational talent. If if the Bears organization do what they
Speaker 5: need to do to make sure they don't fail this
Speaker 5: young kid like them the rest of the quarterbacks that
Speaker 5: have come through that organization.
Speaker 1: I think the thing is is that you look and
Speaker 1: it's being reported that his last two years at USC,
Speaker 1: he made north of ten million dollars in nil right,
Speaker 1: he got you know what because he's that boy. Yes,
Speaker 1: and so you look like bro, you drive around Hollywood
Speaker 1: and you got a lambod Ferrari and you know you
Speaker 1: got all these deals. Bro, don't come in here with
Speaker 1: that because you start from scratch. Because what we ask
Speaker 1: you gotta do. Whatever whatever you had at college, we're
Speaker 1: gonna leave that there.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah started, Yeah, you started from you started on, you
Speaker 5: start a new Yeah.
Speaker 1: That's hey, that's supposedly how we do in a relationship. Right, oh, cho,
Speaker 1: No matter what whatever whatever he heard about you, whatever
Speaker 1: you heard about her, we decided to come together.
Speaker 3: We're starting a new Yeah. That was a new me,
Speaker 3: new year. Knew me every time.
Speaker 5: And then I told I told real, hey, listen, put
Speaker 5: a band aid on. When you come to me, you
Speaker 5: better come here. Yeah, yeah, come to me, Come come here, honey.
Speaker 5: I ain't got time to play, but listen, goddamn listen,
Speaker 5: chat y'all, excuse me.
Speaker 3: What I'm about to say.
Speaker 5: I have a feeling, based on the talent that Caleb
Speaker 5: Williams is that he can have the same effect on
Speaker 5: the Bears organization the city of Chicago, the same way
Speaker 5: Patrick ma Holmes heading the Kansas City Chiefs.
Speaker 3: If they do.
Speaker 5: Right by him and building around that young fellow man.
Speaker 5: He's different, He's he's a phenomena. He's a phenomenon. He's
Speaker 5: a come here, he's a phenomenal talent. Look look at it, Listen,
Speaker 5: look at look at my Caleb Williams.
Speaker 3: I'm doing makeup challenge.
Speaker 2: Let rail sit down right quick.
Speaker 3: I'm taking over a night care. What's how you feeling today?
Speaker 6: I'm feeling amazing.
Speaker 1: They say, the Chat say, we need you to feel.
Speaker 1: We need to have you on a couple of times
Speaker 1: a week sitting in.
Speaker 3: I'm ready.
Speaker 6: You just got to send me my note, be prepared.
Speaker 6: I'm gonna let Chat take over to day. But you know,
Speaker 6: I can't embarrass because I heard.
Speaker 1: What is what made you decide that you wanted to
Speaker 1: go make up free for the next several days or
Speaker 1: weeks or how long you want to do this challenge?
Speaker 3: Honestly, I'm I'm joking.
Speaker 6: I'm I just did it because Karesha has a song
Speaker 6: that's coming out. It's no makeup, no filters challenge. You're
Speaker 6: pretty well no make up. So I just did it
Speaker 6: on TikTok and she just reposted it. But I feel
Speaker 6: I hate wearing makeup.
Speaker 1: Oh do you man? He hey, he did it? Get out?
Speaker 3: Get out this ship rail. I feel I feel like
Speaker 3: make up at ten years on?
Speaker 6: Really mm hmm see I look, you know I look good,
Speaker 6: don't we don't hate her, don't be hated.
Speaker 5: He over here, I hated.
Speaker 3: He trying to take.
Speaker 2: Away what he said you need make up.
Speaker 3: No he didn't say that, but he's just hating.
Speaker 1: Right, Oh Joe, get your hand off your hips. May
Speaker 1: get your hand off your heads.
Speaker 3: Get out of the camera, man, rail over. Let the chance
Speaker 3: be reil shine man? Who man?
Speaker 2: Who you?
Speaker 3: Who you paying? You're paying me a hot man?
Speaker 1: Come on, man, we're about to break cut railer check too.
Speaker 6: That's right, but I'm serious. Make up, it's just it does.
Speaker 6: Put it on, take it off.
Speaker 3: And men don't like women, not a whole lot of it.
Speaker 2: But they some of them put too much on the rail.
Speaker 2: I mean some of them.
Speaker 1: They yeah, some of them have it like you spread
Speaker 1: that on what they use the butter knife to put
Speaker 1: that makeup on. I mean, that's that's too that's too much.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, it's kind of like when you
Speaker 1: were in the high school of college and you kissed
Speaker 1: the girl in the whole side of your face was like.
Speaker 3: Or when you yeah, white.
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 2: Oh you play for this dry cleaning?
Speaker 3: Right, It's good.
Speaker 7: I love y'all all right, man, Yeah damn you got
Speaker 7: you man, You got her stealing the shine and take
Speaker 7: them a show man.
Speaker 3: It's bad enough.
Speaker 5: Everywhere I go in public now they talking about hey boy,
Speaker 5: ah you ain't you dude? That day real. I'm like,
Speaker 5: come on, man, stop trying me. Man, Yeah, we gotta
Speaker 5: say we listen. We got to Simba down on that man.
Speaker 5: We gotta Simba down. She can't be like it's like
Speaker 5: it's like nah, but I'm just saying they be embarrassed.
Speaker 5: I mean, like in public they be disrespecting me, like,
Speaker 5: ain't you dude?
Speaker 3: What you mean?
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 3: You know my name? Chad Man? What you mean? Ain't
Speaker 3: you dude?
Speaker 5: Come on, come on, man, we gotta slow down, no more,
Speaker 5: no more. She ain't she ain't get she ain't get
Speaker 5: sheen coming on this ship.
Speaker 2: You know, well you get real. We're gonna see railer camera.
Speaker 1: Reial go be another rule while you at one room
Speaker 1: rail of the other Papa water screen.
Speaker 5: Nah nah, because now she's getting a little bit more
Speaker 5: more attention than I am.
Speaker 3: And now it's putting me on the back burn.
Speaker 1: Okay, hold up, oh Joe, don't you want your woman
Speaker 1: to shine?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I wanted to shine? But how her light gonna
Speaker 3: be bright in the mound? What it is? I'm supposed
Speaker 3: to be leading, I'm supposed to believe? How I'm e
Speaker 3: lade if she right now?
Speaker 2: You're an eclipse right now? I mean dark?
Speaker 3: You is?
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: That's all that is?
Speaker 6: Man?
Speaker 2: So check us out, O Joe. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson released the new workout video, New Team, New
Speaker 1: Workout Us from Russ Yeah. This one showed him working
Speaker 1: out on his footwork while wearing sunglasses, which led to
Speaker 1: a lot of jokes from the NFL fans. Jameis Winston
Speaker 1: almost posted the video if him taking snaps on the
Speaker 1: center in a full suit. Oh Joe, why do guys
Speaker 1: feel they need to post their videos their workout video?
Speaker 3: Ain't nothing wrong with that, hey, I like it.
Speaker 5: I like the fact that he's posting his workouts, letting
Speaker 5: people know he's locked in and staying on top of
Speaker 5: what he needs to do. Technique, basic fundamentals, dropping back, pocket,
Speaker 5: moving pocket presence, throwing the ball, staying on points. So
Speaker 5: when he does get the camp. I'm sure Russell Wilson
Speaker 5: gonna hit the off season program. He gonna hit the
Speaker 5: off season program running letting them boys. No, listen, I'm
Speaker 5: coming here to lead us to you nowhere to make
Speaker 5: sure we're in contention. I like that they're posting this
Speaker 5: to let people know what he's doing and that.
Speaker 3: He's Are you doing it for people? Are you doing
Speaker 3: it for you?
Speaker 5: Well, hey, listen, it's the same thing when I when
Speaker 5: I was when I was playing, I didn't have access
Speaker 5: to social media, but I upload the video of the
Speaker 5: YouTube of myself working ab Santana Moss, Andre Johnson, like
Speaker 5: old stuff you can see. So this is what they
Speaker 5: do today in today's era of the you know, during
Speaker 5: the social media era, you know, you upload some of
Speaker 5: the stuff you're doing and it lets people into your
Speaker 5: life outside of the game of football.
Speaker 1: You don't like it, I mean each you own. I
Speaker 1: mean that's I mean, like you said, this is where
Speaker 1: we are now. Ojo got uploading a lot of their
Speaker 1: workout stuff.
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't really have a problem with it. Uh hey
Speaker 1: look at Jamis. Okay, so what's this, Hey, Jamis?
Speaker 2: Jamis?
Speaker 5: Jamis working on his snap. Hey, but he had a
Speaker 5: full trench coat. Hey, Jami dressed like Colombo. Damon dressed
Speaker 5: like Colombo. Get hey, listen, I love dude, man, I
Speaker 5: want you know, I wanted this. Jamis understand or does
Speaker 5: he even realize how unintentionally funny he is?
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 3: And he's funny without even trying to be funny.
Speaker 1: I mean, man, come on with dif right here. You
Speaker 1: know the kind of reaction that you was gonna get.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it ain't.
Speaker 1: It'll be like you out there catching footballs in the
Speaker 1: tough seed though. You know the reaction that you're gonna get.
Speaker 2: So to say that.
Speaker 5: I ain't, no, you knew, Yeah, I mean it's a
Speaker 5: good but it's nothing bad. You know, he just just
Speaker 5: getting the feel for the pig skin. You know, it's
Speaker 5: it's been it's been a long time. He just signed
Speaker 5: with the Browns.
Speaker 3: You know, let me let me touch it a little bit,
Speaker 3: Let me touch a little bit, you know, get that snapping,
Speaker 3: Gonna take it, gonna take in a top coat.
Speaker 5: None, none, But I would hate for him to have
Speaker 5: to put on some Browns geared just to take one snap.
Speaker 5: You know, ain't nothing wrong, right, But he was there
Speaker 5: to sign his contract, so he ain't gonna be in
Speaker 5: short and show.
Speaker 2: So he signed contract.
Speaker 1: Somehow he found the Center in the weight room and
Speaker 1: say hey, let you boyetah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they listen.
Speaker 5: I guarantee you that was the first time him in
Speaker 5: the center met and the center might have been out
Speaker 5: working on some snaps and say, man, let me snap
Speaker 5: what I'm saying for you real, let me get a
Speaker 5: feel for has gonna be.
Speaker 1: Ain't wrong with that, It's just different now, Joe. I
Speaker 1: just think, yeah, sometimes I think guys it's more for
Speaker 1: for for show than yeah.
Speaker 5: I mean, ain't nothing wrong, But I said you you
Speaker 5: are a little bit more closed off in general with
Speaker 5: your personal life and your public life. So I think
Speaker 5: you're one who really doesn't see the reason for posting
Speaker 5: any and everything. And I kind of like it, Like
Speaker 5: I want to see what the receivers are doing in
Speaker 5: the off season, justin Jefferson, Chase, the dB, Saft Guardener,
Speaker 5: all them boys. I want to see videos because hell,
Speaker 5: I'm gonna be joining up.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be joining them in the off seat in
Speaker 3: the train.
Speaker 2: Somebody tweeted, I love you, Kyle, but run it.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 1: Somebody tweeted about four hours ago. I love you, Kyle,
Speaker 1: but running and throwing in short catching past his pointless
Speaker 1: when the only thing that matters is what you put
Speaker 1: on film. Everybody looks good in shorts on air against
Speaker 1: no competition.
Speaker 3: Who tweeted right, that was me?
Speaker 2: That was me?
Speaker 3: That was me.
Speaker 5: That that was that was That was about Marvin Harrison
Speaker 5: Junior working out of the pro day in front of the
Speaker 5: NFL scouts when the NFL scouts have three years worth
Speaker 5: the footage of him at Ohio State where it makes
Speaker 5: no sense what he has to do.
Speaker 3: Russell Wilson throwing did you with me? Me? Finished?
Speaker 2: Did you have?
Speaker 5: I wasn't Marvin Harrison Junior coming out either question. I
Speaker 5: was also I was a wait. I was also a
Speaker 5: one for one, so I had no choice but one.
Speaker 3: I only only. I was on the Division one level
Speaker 3: for one year. You forgot, you forgot then roll. I
Speaker 3: mean they saw you a seven monicle. No, they ain't
Speaker 3: see me. But I want nobody there. I mean, I
Speaker 3: want to listen.
Speaker 5: I made my grand entries at Oregon State. I got there,
Speaker 5: and I got there in August, and I was going
Speaker 5: to December. Four months. That's all I had. My back
Speaker 5: was against the wall, so I had no choice but
Speaker 5: to go and do what I need to do in
Speaker 5: front of these folks and let them know.
Speaker 3: Listen.
Speaker 5: I might have bounced around from school to school. I
Speaker 5: might have got thrown out from school to school. My
Speaker 5: grades might might not have been what they should to
Speaker 5: be at a four year institution. But there's one thing
Speaker 5: I can do. I can play some motherfucking ball. I
Speaker 5: can play some ball. So I had to showcase that.
Speaker 5: When it comes to Margaret Harrison junior, there is nothing
Speaker 5: that he has to showcase on his pro date or
Speaker 5: at the NFL combined because there's enough film, which is
Speaker 5: the only thing that matters, not what he does. And
Speaker 5: god damn shorts and shirt.
Speaker 1: I think the thing, if they had classroom on the
Speaker 1: football field, you might have been good.
Speaker 2: So they should have started U about fifty on the
Speaker 2: football field, I.
Speaker 5: Think, Oh, listen, listen. When I was in school, I
Speaker 5: was I was brilliant. I was a four point zero student.
Speaker 5: The problem was you couldn't get me to go to
Speaker 5: class because I was worried about playing football.
Speaker 3: That was my issue.
Speaker 5: My grandma already told me, boy listen, listen, stop focusing
Speaker 5: on football and get your goddamn education, because if football
Speaker 5: doesn't work out, you got to have something to fall
Speaker 5: back on.
Speaker 3: And what you think my heart head at my hard
Speaker 3: head ass did?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Focus on football, Focus on football, Focus on football, focus
Speaker 5: on football. Get in trouble fighting here fight. I'm at
Speaker 5: Langsty University for one Langsy diversit. I get thrown up
Speaker 5: for fighting. Rest in peace of doctor Ernest Holloway. I
Speaker 5: come back to my grandma. My grandma like man, listen, baby,
Speaker 5: I've done all I can with you. I'm tired of talking.
Speaker 5: I'm tired. I wash my hands. She shipped me to
Speaker 5: my mom in La. First time I lived with my
Speaker 5: mama obviously. Nineteen ninety seven, I enrolled at Center Monica
Speaker 5: Junior College. First thing, I'm focused on football. Yeah, ask
Speaker 5: me how many classes I went to.
Speaker 1: Well, when you say ask, that means none.
Speaker 3: Listen, Billy showed U.
Speaker 5: Because I'm out there practicing, I'm doing I'm working out,
Speaker 5: I'm doing all the stuff. I'm doing everything I'm supposed
Speaker 5: to be doing one except go to goddamn class. Sh
Speaker 5: had ninth come nineteen ninety eight. Unk, I'm ineligible. Boom,
Speaker 5: I got summer classes that go to all kinds of
Speaker 5: classes to make sure I'm eligible to play in nineteen
Speaker 5: ninety nine. Mini, that's this is three years down now,
Speaker 5: so my fourth year of eligibility is goddamn yeah, Oregon State.
Speaker 5: So I obviously I got myself eligible to play in
Speaker 5: ninety eight, No ninety nine and that one for one
Speaker 5: at Oregon State. Dennis Arison, I'll never forget. Thank you, Denny,
Speaker 5: if you see this.
Speaker 3: He gave me a shot.
Speaker 5: You know they don't pass out, no, give nobody, no
Speaker 5: for a scholarship for no one year.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 3: He gave me a shot.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 3: I went to Oregon State and showed the f out
Speaker 3: and I ain't looked back since.
Speaker 5: So when it comes to the combine and having to
Speaker 5: perform in front of people and no shorts and shirts
Speaker 5: that we're talking about.
Speaker 3: I had no choice. I ain't had no choice. There
Speaker 3: was too many red flags behind me for me not to.
Speaker 2: Look. I looked.
Speaker 1: I took a different approach to you, o Joe. I
Speaker 1: looked at like, Okay, I'm here at college. Help, I
Speaker 1: might as well get a degree. I'm gonna be here
Speaker 1: four years. Nobody was going early. I think my year
Speaker 1: was the first year that guys started like really Leaven early,
Speaker 1: you know, and men and Lamar Lath and we had
Speaker 1: several guys that left early, I mean, and they were
Speaker 1: you know, high draft picks, but for the most part,
Speaker 1: you stayed four years. And I didn't want to be
Speaker 1: one of those guys that I was further away from
Speaker 1: graduation when I left after four years than when I
Speaker 1: was when I got there four years earlier. So I
Speaker 1: was like, Hey, I'm gonna get this degree because people
Speaker 1: didn't think I could do a lot of people didn't
Speaker 1: think I could do it. I know I could do it.
Speaker 1: I just needed to apply myself. I bull jib around,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I wanted to be the
Speaker 1: class clent. I wanted to be funny, and plus I
Speaker 1: was a superior athlete to everyone else. I was like, Hey,
Speaker 1: somebody gonna give me an opportunity. It might not be
Speaker 1: where I want to go, but somebody gonna give me
Speaker 1: a chance because the football skill, the basketball skill, the
Speaker 1: track skill is too great for somebody to say, nah,
Speaker 1: he can't do nothing for our university. So it was
Speaker 1: sa battle State coach Davis. Bill Davis rest his soul.
Speaker 1: He like son, I would be honest with you. If
Speaker 1: I was drafted and I had the number one pick
Speaker 1: of all the kids that's coming out of college, I'll
Speaker 1: take you number.
Speaker 3: One m And I like that.
Speaker 2: I like I was gone. He couldn't come in the
Speaker 2: house though.
Speaker 1: You know, we had that car that we had a
Speaker 1: We had that confege, we had that conversation to the
Speaker 1: driveway because when I talked about signed with him, obviously,
Speaker 1: you know, it was like it was like like three weeks,
Speaker 1: oh Joe before we had to go to camp. So
Speaker 1: I was just sitting around like okay. I was like, man,
Speaker 1: I'm goin to go to the I'm and to go
Speaker 1: to the Air Force. Because my brother called me. He
Speaker 1: came down, talked to me and said, the Savanna State
Speaker 1: still have that scholarship for you. I said, yeah, Coach
Speaker 1: Davis sent any time I need. If I wanted a scholarship,
Speaker 1: he would take me. He said, well, call Coach Davis
Speaker 1: and tell him you coming go for a year and
Speaker 1: if you don't like it, saying I went for a
Speaker 1: year foot you know college. It wasn't for me. I
Speaker 1: called Coach David. They had to be like nine that night.
Speaker 1: I said coach, I want to come to Savannah State.
Speaker 1: He said, all right, home, God damn, I'm gonna put
Speaker 1: my clothes on him. Coming down. I said, Nah, Coach,
Speaker 1: I'm good. He said, hell Noah Son, somebody else gonna
Speaker 1: come down there and sign.
Speaker 2: You under me.
Speaker 1: I said, coach, I give you my word. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: sign with Savannah State.
Speaker 2: Man. Coach you at my house about eight o'clock in
Speaker 2: the morning. I had went out.
Speaker 1: I had went out the night before O Joe, and
Speaker 1: I had some money in my pocket.
Speaker 2: I was like, damn, i'd've lost my money. Come to
Speaker 2: find out the money was.
Speaker 3: Hold on how much? How much you held?
Speaker 1: How much you had forty eight fifty dollars, but you
Speaker 1: know that a lot of money back in nineteen oh yeah,
Speaker 1: and my circumstances. So Coach David came. He said, son,
Speaker 1: I appreciate this. I'm gonna take care of you. My grandma.
Speaker 1: My grandma never came out to the house. He just
Speaker 1: ate and that's kind of that's kind of how she
Speaker 1: handled it. Oho, you know stuff like that. I remember
Speaker 1: when I got when my homeboy, Ricky Thomas, he went
Speaker 1: to the same school. He was my quarterback in high school.
Speaker 1: He went to the same school that I went. He
Speaker 1: went to Savannah State, and I remember he blew the
Speaker 1: horn that uh that August heading down there. My grandmother
Speaker 1: was in the bed. My grandma ain't never get up a,
Speaker 1: never got out of the bed. She ain't a because
Speaker 1: she felt she had done done all she could in
Speaker 1: eighteen years. Giving me another five ten minutes speech before
Speaker 1: I walked out the door.
Speaker 2: She said, it wasn't gonna do no good now, no good.
Speaker 1: I walked down. I left us. I left as a boy.
Speaker 1: Remember looking back at that Remember looking back at the house. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I knew what I was leaving behind, and I knew
Speaker 1: I knew what the mission was, o Cho. When I
Speaker 1: got in that car, it's just like, okay, go get
Speaker 1: it done. Now, go get it done.
Speaker 3: See see you were you was locked in.
Speaker 5: It took me to understand what the mission was after
Speaker 5: I hitmer goddamn head and fell multiple times at Langston.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 5: First year at Santa Monica, got myself together the all
Speaker 5: a year where I was in eligible. I had to
Speaker 5: get my grades right then it hit me like, hey man, boy,
Speaker 5: that window of opportunity is by this big.
Speaker 3: Either get it done.
Speaker 5: Now or the chances in your childhood dreams are down
Speaker 5: the dream and I had locked in and I did it.
Speaker 5: My grandma waited for the first time, and the first
Speaker 5: time I actually listen to what she had to say.
Speaker 5: Listen to what she had to say. Look, what the
Speaker 5: hell happened?
Speaker 3: Oh Joe.
Speaker 1: I tell my kids all the time, I say, sometimes
Speaker 1: you have to bump your own head to realize how
Speaker 1: much it is. See me telling you I did something
Speaker 1: similar and bump my head. You didn't feel it. So
Speaker 1: sometimes my grandma said, boy, sometimes you got to bump.
Speaker 2: Your own head.
Speaker 1: Because we can do all we can to protect them,
Speaker 1: give them. They have access to things we never had
Speaker 1: access to. Yeah, but at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: they're gonna have to fall down and skin their own neither.
Speaker 3: You got.
Speaker 1: You got stuff on your sins, your needs from falling
Speaker 1: down as a child, things that we tried to protect
Speaker 1: our own kids from. So think about it, little Joe,
Speaker 1: what you tried to do. You try to protect your
Speaker 1: kids from all of that.
Speaker 3: Blow it.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be. Okay, don't cry, man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, my grandma ain't never saying now one time, Okay,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be. It's gonna be okay. But my grandma
Speaker 1: ain't blow nothing. Put some alcohol on it. Now, So
Speaker 1: now I'm preevious. You know, you don't see nothing. You
Speaker 1: don't see nothing of white meat. And she poured alcohol
Speaker 1: on it.
Speaker 8: I'm like what, oh.
Speaker 3: So?
Speaker 2: And that that was the thing.
Speaker 1: And so for me, O Joe, I didn't want to
Speaker 1: let her down because she had done everything that she
Speaker 1: possibly could to raise her nine and my mom's three.
Speaker 1: And so I knew when she didn't get up out
Speaker 1: of that bed and say, Son, I remember, don't drink.
Speaker 1: Son said, don't get out, go out late. Son, ain't
Speaker 1: your clothes in the morning, Son, be respectful. I knew
Speaker 1: when she didn't give me that speech, because he had
Speaker 1: been giving me that speech for eighteen years. She said, man,
Speaker 1: ten more minutes, ain't gonna do nothing for here, and
Speaker 1: either he got it, don't don't. Yeah, I walked out
Speaker 1: the highlok. I was different.
Speaker 2: I was.
Speaker 1: I was never the same. I was never the same, Ohoe.
Speaker 1: When I left that house, I was, I was a
Speaker 1: different person. And I remember my brother. My brother's like
Speaker 1: he he could see it. My sister will tell you
Speaker 1: I was. I was a different person. I wasn't the same.
Speaker 3: I never.
Speaker 1: I was never that same person that left Rocked four
Speaker 1: bucks three eighty five on that August day in nineteen
Speaker 1: eighty six. Even when I came back a month or
Speaker 1: two later, when we had a bye week, I wasn't
Speaker 1: the same I was.
Speaker 2: There was a focus, O shoe. There was a focus.
Speaker 1: And I couldn't believe because now I go from showering
Speaker 1: morning night, you know.
Speaker 2: Practice, I would shower before I go to practice. I
Speaker 2: would shower after practice.
Speaker 1: I was shot because you know, we practicing twice a day,
Speaker 1: So I'm going three showers a day, going to the
Speaker 1: bathroom inside.
Speaker 2: I come home, guess what, gotta wash in a tub?
Speaker 1: Gotta go back to the you know, got to go
Speaker 1: back to the woods to go to the bathroom again.
Speaker 3: The bathrooms. Yeah yeah, And now I'm.
Speaker 1: Thinking to myself, how many in my teammates have ever
Speaker 1: had to go to the bathroom in the woods. Oh Joe,
Speaker 1: I'm eighteen, Oh Joe, I'm nineteen. Oh cho I'm twenty
Speaker 1: years old going to the bathroom in the woods. I'm
Speaker 1: still taking a shower in a foot tub, warming the
Speaker 1: water up. We would, I mean, when I would work,
Speaker 1: we put water in a number two wash tub. I
Speaker 1: don't know if anybody from the country. You can google it,
Speaker 1: look up a number two washtub. I would put water
Speaker 1: in the washtub when I was working. I come home
Speaker 1: at noon, we got an hour to eat. I would
Speaker 1: put water in the washtub and leave it in the
Speaker 1: sun so the sun would heat it up. So that's
Speaker 1: my warm water when I come up when I get
Speaker 1: off work to take a bath in. So I'm taking
Speaker 1: a bath and a foot in a wash tub. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm drawing water. So we drawing water out of a whale.
Speaker 1: We got a whale ochoe, I'm talking about this nineteen
Speaker 1: eighty six, nineteen eighty seven, nineteen eighty eight, nineteen eighty
Speaker 1: My brother would pro in eighty eight.
Speaker 3: So I'm drawing water. We drinking water from a whale.
Speaker 1: I'm drawing my water to the putting the sunder out
Speaker 1: of the sticket to take a bath in. Now, many
Speaker 1: times my brother would take a bath first. We used
Speaker 1: that same water. Yeah yeah, I know about taking a bad.
Speaker 2: First us that water.
Speaker 1: So I remember going home after being at Savannah State
Speaker 1: and showering three times a day, going to the bath
Speaker 1: through any time I want you and I have to
Speaker 1: worry about grabbing bugspray to spread around me because the
Speaker 1: mosquitoes tear me up. Or it's told at night and
Speaker 1: I got a big old jacket on and I'm out
Speaker 1: there in the wood going to the bathroom.
Speaker 2: I mean, I say, this ain't for.
Speaker 5: Me, said, you know, you know, it's funny you got
Speaker 5: you got you got people at times that come from
Speaker 5: different circumstances. But I think your focus was a little
Speaker 5: bit different because of you coming from Hormoguinas. Obviously Grandma
Speaker 5: and and and what she instilled in you, you know,
Speaker 5: throughout your tenure as an adolescent. But then when you
Speaker 5: get to somewhere like Savannah State, you have an appreciation
Speaker 5: for the atmosphere and the many these that you never
Speaker 5: really had before. So your focus was just different. Yeah,
Speaker 5: because of the access that you had once you got
Speaker 5: to college, and you know, youn't you weren't going back
Speaker 5: to that, you weren't going back, So it made it
Speaker 5: even that much easier for you to focus, as opposed
Speaker 5: to somebody that comes from a silver spoon play out
Speaker 5: and they wouldn't really a pretty they wouldn't they wouldn't
Speaker 5: really appreciate being away from home in college, because there's
Speaker 5: something that you've always got throughout your whole life.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh and I remember, oh yo and all
Speaker 1: my I think I had one friend, Stacey, my homeboy.
Speaker 1: His birthday minded the twenty sixth to Junie, he is
Speaker 1: the twenty seventh. He was the only person that's ever
Speaker 1: been inside my house that was a friend. Because we
Speaker 1: didn't have no indoor plumbing, we didn't have no running water,
Speaker 1: so if somebody had to go use the bathroom, you know,
Speaker 1: you'd have to tell them a lie. Well, you know,
Speaker 1: the toilet broke, you're gonna have to go outside. So
Speaker 1: bad for me, o Joe, that was I couldn't. I
Speaker 1: couldn't see myself, my sister's age, my grandmother's age, having
Speaker 1: to go to the woods to continue to go to.
Speaker 3: The bathroom my grandma and up.
Speaker 1: My grandma ended up in a forties, in a fifty
Speaker 1: six old granted, and so that was eighty six. Granny
Speaker 1: was born in twenty three. So you know, nah nah
Speaker 1: nah nah nah nah. That wasn't That wasn't gonna work
Speaker 1: for me. That wasn't gonna work for me, Ojoe and
Speaker 1: eating what we ate, you know, I see I remember see,
Speaker 1: and people were saying, you lying, asked my brother. I
Speaker 1: remember we had a well, I grew up on a farm.
Speaker 1: So my grandfather would go get from to go to
Speaker 1: the grocery stores. And you know, the rotten fruit they
Speaker 1: got a rotten spot on it, they throw in that.
Speaker 1: All the bananas that got that's partially rotten, they throw
Speaker 1: that in the thing. So my grandfather threw it away.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, oh nah, let me get let me get them, let.
Speaker 2: Me let me get it. So you don't know, oh joe.
Speaker 2: So we had hogs.
Speaker 1: So my grandfather was getting the cabbage and the stuff,
Speaker 1: all the produce for the hogs. I jumping in. I
Speaker 1: jump in the kneedy mother. See when people say needy,
Speaker 1: you know how your boy being there, I'll be.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with you.
Speaker 2: That's where the term comes with.
Speaker 3: I be that needy.
Speaker 1: So I say, hog, you're not going to get this apple,
Speaker 1: You're not gonna get great many I get better. I
Speaker 1: go over there and get get apples, get great, get bananas,
Speaker 1: cut the browns off and eat it, wash it off,
Speaker 1: eat it.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeeah.
Speaker 1: So that was my thought process. I said, Lord, if
Speaker 1: I'm fortunate enough and I have kids. My kids couldn't
Speaker 1: live like this, I said. My kids ain't built like
Speaker 1: I'm built.
Speaker 3: They can't.
Speaker 1: They couldn't stay in one hour, let alone a day
Speaker 1: or a month or a year in my life.
Speaker 3: So I mean, that's the whole point.
Speaker 5: When you do have kids, you always want to make
Speaker 5: life easier for them so they don't have to go
Speaker 5: through the things you win through, because I don't think
Speaker 5: the kids in our era would be able to survive
Speaker 5: in the past, and based on what we had to
Speaker 5: go through.
Speaker 3: It's different. It's different, so many different.
Speaker 5: Rules are inclined to appease them, as opposed to one
Speaker 5: small rule being able to being able to.
Speaker 3: Discipline your child. You can't even do that anymore.
Speaker 2: You can't.
Speaker 3: You can't. Oh, you can't. Man, Listen, it was a day.
Speaker 3: It was a time. I know. I'm not sure how
Speaker 3: it was where you from, but I know where I'm from. Now.
Speaker 5: If your parents are, if your mama, if your parents
Speaker 5: ain't home, my grandma, my granddaddy wasn't now and I
Speaker 5: messed up, and I did. Somebody had no business. All
Speaker 5: the neighbors had the right to be my ass Oh yeah,
Speaker 5: And then when they get home and the neighbors.
Speaker 3: Tell my grandma, my granddaddy what I did. I get
Speaker 3: my ass again? You have community ass whippings. Oh yeah,
Speaker 3: because to the village. That was my grandma favorite.
Speaker 5: It takes the village and we're gonna make sure if
Speaker 5: you mess up, I want you all to make sure
Speaker 5: y'all beat his ass, and when he get them me,
Speaker 5: I'm gonna.
Speaker 3: Beat him again.
Speaker 1: That's exactly how it was, O Yoe. There was a
Speaker 1: respect level for all the people, all the adults in
Speaker 1: the community. All that sassing and talking back. You don't
Speaker 1: tell me what to do. I don't remember talk back
Speaker 1: to Oh you mama, you don't tell me what to do.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: They tear you up and say, boy, hey Mary, you
Speaker 1: know I had to cut that boy tail. He was
Speaker 1: up there sass and he was doing this.
Speaker 3: Listen. Did you see some of them clips with them
Speaker 3: kids talking back?
Speaker 2: I would have never made it.
Speaker 3: You already know what to.
Speaker 5: Talk about, talking back, talking about their mama, talk about
Speaker 5: I don't feel like it.
Speaker 3: I don't want to get off the gate man ship.
Speaker 2: Man, you can be in there watching you my girl
Speaker 2: say hey, y'all get outside and play.
Speaker 1: We watch the TV.
Speaker 3: Hey, it wasn't though. Hey, they hey hot out there.
Speaker 1: Oh Joe, we used to like try to play basketball,
Speaker 1: and that we were playing the basketball this summer. Whooa boy,
Speaker 1: it's too hot. Y'all will have a stroke. Come out
Speaker 1: there soon as the man come back for the truck
Speaker 1: to go in the fields. All right, boy, here, if
Speaker 1: it's too hot to play basketball, but it's not too
Speaker 1: hot to work.
Speaker 3: In the fields.
Speaker 1: B I said, what I'm looking at. I'm looking at
Speaker 1: this Saga Spagan looking at me. That's my brother, were
Speaker 1: looking at our cousins. Now, you just told us it's
Speaker 1: too hot to play basketball, but it ain't too hot
Speaker 1: to going down one hundred degree hey. Time time we
Speaker 1: hit the back of that pickup truck, you know, dragging
Speaker 1: our feet. I don't know you to have, but we
Speaker 1: dragging our feet on the road. All right, boys, y'all
Speaker 1: be careful, but oh your those for the time. Though,
Speaker 1: hard times make tough men, tough men make weak kids.
Speaker 1: M Now, people in the jack you'll understand what I'm
Speaker 1: talking about, Oh Joe. The Dodgers fire Show, hell Tany's
Speaker 1: interpreter interpreter over claims of massive faith show. He Tani's interpreter,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to try to say his name, has
Speaker 1: been accused of stealing four point five million from Otane's
Speaker 1: to pay down gambling debts from a California bookie who hey.
Speaker 1: The wire transfer came to light because the FBI was
Speaker 1: investigating a man named Matthew Bauer for running an ill
Speaker 1: illicit book making scheme, and Otani's name serviced in investigations.
Speaker 1: Two five hundred thousand dollars payments had been wired directly
Speaker 1: from show Hal Tani's bank account to Borrior. The Dodgers
Speaker 1: immediately fired Muzarahi, the interpreter, but it doesn't add up
Speaker 1: Otane's team, permitting the interpreter to sit for a ninety
Speaker 1: minute interview Tuesday night. The interpreter told ESPN that he
Speaker 1: started placing bets on credit with Barrier after meeting him
Speaker 1: at his San Diego poker game in twenty twenty one.
Speaker 2: Got big poker games going on out here. I still
Speaker 2: away from there.
Speaker 1: After grin to cover his losses, Otane thought the interpreter
Speaker 1: still might gamble money away, so he logged into the
Speaker 1: computer and sent it the bowyer himself. According to Miseraki,
Speaker 1: their close relationship had once been described as a brotherhood.
Speaker 1: It was only after the interpreter interview that Otani's represented
Speaker 1: it changed their tune. Now the claim was that he
Speaker 1: was a victim, that Otani was a victim of massive
Speaker 1: theft at the hands of the interpreter, and that he
Speaker 1: never tried to cover the gambling losses.
Speaker 2: It doesn't add up. It's not adding up.
Speaker 1: O Joe.
Speaker 2: Otani'sft claim makes a little bit more sin.
Speaker 3: So I'm compute. Okay, I'm confused.
Speaker 5: So is it theft on behalf of the interpreter and
Speaker 5: stealing money or is it Otani one that likes to
Speaker 5: gamble as well? Because if Otani likes to gamble, and
Speaker 5: we talked about baseball, we already know how they strike
Speaker 5: with the iron fish when it comes to gambling and baseball.
Speaker 1: What happened was what I believe happened because the interpreter
Speaker 1: and Otani has a very t relationship, is described as
Speaker 1: a brotherhood. The inn has a gambling problem. Okay, what's
Speaker 1: the likelihood of the interpreter having access directly to show
Speaker 1: Hazel Tani's account. Yeah, so that's not very much money
Speaker 1: was coming directly from Show Hazel Tani's account.
Speaker 2: To cover the gambling debt.
Speaker 1: Now this this, this, this ille illicit gambling ring is
Speaker 1: under federal investigation. So now show hell Tani. How many
Speaker 1: of them? Show hell Tana? You think in the United States?
Speaker 3: Just one?
Speaker 1: And is that one that plays that's not currently on
Speaker 1: the dodge? So now hold on, how's this tied to
Speaker 1: what's really going on? See it makes me sense. See
Speaker 1: what happened was I believe he was covering for his
Speaker 1: they're so close, they're like brothers because he's been as interpreter.
Speaker 1: He's covering the debt. It's a bad look because it's
Speaker 1: makes it seemed like shoe Hey knew and was covering
Speaker 1: the dead. So now once it comes to light, no,
Speaker 1: he was stealing money because we got to clear show hate.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, okay, okay, Well hold on, now what are
Speaker 3: we betting on? I know we're not betting on baseball.
Speaker 2: No, I don't think. I don't think he's taking baseball.
Speaker 1: I think he's probably betting on football, probably basketball, whatever
Speaker 1: the case may be.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 5: But still in general, now this is something you're gonna
Speaker 5: have to educate me on because I don't know much
Speaker 5: about it now as an active baseball player, Are you
Speaker 5: allowed to bet on other things outside of baseball or
Speaker 5: is that still frowned upon in the baseball We're not sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not sure.
Speaker 1: I know like golf, golf can bet on themselves, the golfers,
Speaker 1: like like Tiger could bet on himself.
Speaker 2: I bet a million dollars.
Speaker 1: That I'm gonna win the Masters, right, But as a
Speaker 1: football player, because there's so many things that there's a
Speaker 1: lot of moving parts, and because the money is so substantial. Now,
Speaker 1: that's what I couldn't understand what Calvin really, That's why
Speaker 1: I couldn't understand what some of those Lions player. Bro,
Speaker 1: you trying to win five hundred dollars and you make
Speaker 1: eleven million, you're selling your money.
Speaker 2: You're selling hundreds for five. It made no sense.
Speaker 1: Now when somebody back in the late like the Black
Speaker 1: Sox scandal, when they gonna give you, okay, they give
Speaker 1: you one thousand dollars and you making two hundred, now okay, okay,
Speaker 1: that makes a little sense.
Speaker 3: Or box would thought they would fixed the fight.
Speaker 1: But in today's game, why would a guy making thirty
Speaker 1: million fix a game fifty million and ruined everything?
Speaker 2: So it made no sense. What makes sense, is that
Speaker 2: the interpreter had a problem.
Speaker 1: He got in over his head and so, oh Joe,
Speaker 1: remember I told you I lose a hand, I double
Speaker 1: the next hand.
Speaker 2: Lose that head. Now you see how you can get it.
Speaker 3: Hold in the hole.
Speaker 1: So if you gambling, hey you have lost one hundred thousand, Hey,
Speaker 1: double it, And I want to pay this, this, this,
Speaker 1: this and this and so that one hundred thousand. Now
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, if you don't win, you're down
Speaker 1: eight hundred thousand.
Speaker 5: Because boy, yeah, boy, But I hope obviously Antonio is
Speaker 5: I mean and Shay hate show show, God damn it,
Speaker 5: show hate.
Speaker 3: Otani is a crazy talent.
Speaker 5: Obviously, I don't even watched baseball, but continuously seeing him
Speaker 5: on the news for what he's doing, obviously watching him
Speaker 5: on ESPN, I've come to learn about him through there,
Speaker 5: understanding how great he is as a pitcher, as a slugger,
Speaker 5: and I hope, I hope everything goes in his favor.
Speaker 5: I'm not sure about the rules as far as him
Speaker 5: being an active baseball player and betting on other sports.
Speaker 5: I'm not sure if that is frowned upon in the
Speaker 5: baseball world, but we will find out.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm someone that's wired large sums
Speaker 1: of money, and even when they're gonna call me mister
Speaker 1: sharp X came and wants to wire this summer money.
Speaker 2: Do we have your permission?
Speaker 1: Yes, So they're not just gonna be wiring five hundred
Speaker 1: thousand dollars from that account without without showing oh no, well.
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay okay. I see where
Speaker 3: you're going with it now, the volume