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We have pinned the link at 96 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 1: the top of the chat. 97 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 2: Uh. 98 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:35,600 Speaker 1: We are back in start and we're taking but we're 99 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: only taking pre orders. 100 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 2: We're gonna feel me up. 101 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 1: We're fulfilling the orders that will had ordered uh January February. 102 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 1: We're fulfilling those orders uh and December orders. But we 103 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:50,040 Speaker 1: should have enough if you were to order, we should 104 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 1: have enough to fulfill your order. So thank you guys 105 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 1: for doing a great job of selling out that. Oh 106 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:56,919 Speaker 1: cho let's jump right into it. Our first segment of 107 00:04:56,960 --> 00:05:05,600 Speaker 1: the night is a news Cap got the NFL will 108 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:09,279 Speaker 1: will not propose the band the Toush will not propose 109 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 1: band for the Toush Plus in twenty twenty four. NFL 110 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 1: executive Troy Benson reiterated today that the Tousch push will 111 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 1: remain in legal play for the twenty twenty fourth season. 112 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 1: Is it best to say, let's just leave it alone. 113 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:25,600 Speaker 1: Somebody stop it? Yep, Yeah, that's all. 114 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 5: Somebody stop it, because if you think about it, there's 115 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 5: only one team that's very efficient at the tousbush anyway, 116 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 5: and that's the Eagles, right, They're the only team that 117 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 5: seemed to be able to get it. So team need 118 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 5: to figure out a way to stop the touch push, 119 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 5: or don't allow them to have short distance. You stop 120 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:40,599 Speaker 5: them on first and second, you won't have to worry 121 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:42,040 Speaker 5: about third and one, you won't have to worry about 122 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 5: fourth and one. But listen, now, the only team that 123 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:46,919 Speaker 5: are really good at it, there's no need to stop it. 124 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 5: It's a part of the game. It's a part of football. 125 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:50,840 Speaker 5: And if we start, if we start making rules to 126 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:54,799 Speaker 5: stop some of the small nuances that other team struggle 127 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 5: to stop, then they're gonna start nickpicking and finding other 128 00:05:57,279 --> 00:05:58,279 Speaker 5: ways to stop other plays. 129 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 3: That people do as well. Ain't that big of a deal. 130 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 1: I understand why people because Oho, before you couldn't aid 131 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:07,479 Speaker 1: the runner, which means you couldn't push him. 132 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 2: Now they say you can push him, you just can't 133 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:10,600 Speaker 2: pull it. 134 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 1: You remember, before the guy get close to the end zone, 135 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 1: his offensive linel put. 136 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 3: In the lineman pull. 137 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 1: You can't do that, but you can get behind him 138 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 1: and shove him. And so that's basically what the touch 139 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 1: push is. But Jalen Hurts squad six hundred pounds, he 140 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 1: has tremendous leg drive. The offensive lineman they get low 141 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 1: and then you know, sometimes he hits the hole right 142 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 1: behind the center of the a gap. Sometimes he goes 143 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:37,719 Speaker 1: a little further off and he had somebody in behind 144 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 1: him that's giving him a shove. So I agree with you, Ojo. 145 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 1: I think teams need to come up with a way 146 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 1: to try and stop it. Good luck with that, because 147 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts has such a leg drive that it's really 148 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:51,600 Speaker 1: hard for teams to stop him. And they've done a 149 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 1: great job. They mastered it. They were the first team 150 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 1: that we saw do this. They've gotten really, really good 151 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:58,719 Speaker 1: at it. We've seen a lot of teams try to 152 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 1: replicate it, but none of them to the success of. 153 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:05,040 Speaker 2: What this Josh Allon is about that. But Josh Allen 154 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 2: is sixty five, two hundred and fifty five. 155 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 1: Pounds, so it's fifty pounds. So good luck trying to 156 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 1: stop that. But I think they're gonna leave it alone. 157 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 1: I mean, they've tried this, what the third year in 158 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 1: the row that they've had discussions about stopping it and 159 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 1: they haven't come up with They haven't said, now, we're 160 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 1: gonna leave it in one more year. 161 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 3: Listen, listen. 162 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 5: It's part of the game, man, It's part of the game. 163 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 5: It's football. And defensively, just listen. Crowd the box, crowded box, 164 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 5: even more, showlder pad is showlder Pad, low Man wins 165 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 5: leverage that that's all this. You just got to fire off. 166 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 1: And then guess what happened now they low Man, they 167 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 1: figured into the line that pop up, they throw the 168 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 1: pass down the field. 169 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 3: You know. 170 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 1: But being on with Jason Kelsey retiring the All Pro Center, 171 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 1: the All World Center for the Eagles, will it still 172 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:51,679 Speaker 1: be to have the same effectiveness? 173 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 3: You know what, I'm not sure. I'm not sure. 174 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 5: I mean, I'm sure there would be somewhat of a 175 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 5: drop off from with Jason Kelsey leaving in another center 176 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 5: coming in. But obviously you got to learn the technique. 177 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 5: You got to learn the technique to keep that keep 178 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 5: the show going. 179 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's tough. 180 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 1: I mean, he's he was so good at getting low 181 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 1: and you know, crawling and rooting people up out of 182 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 1: there getting that because at first your center can't get 183 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 1: stigny because if he gets tigny, where does the quarterback go? 184 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 1: So he has to get some exactly exactly, so he 185 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 1: has to get some momentum. He did a great job 186 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 1: of that, and the only thing you can do is 187 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:31,239 Speaker 1: try to guess the snapcount, try to jump the snap, 188 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 1: but then that's when they get you off side and 189 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 1: they get a free five yards and so you don't 190 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 1: even have to use the to push. 191 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 2: It's a very difficult play to stop. 192 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 1: The Egos have done a great job of the technique 193 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 1: clearly is something that you can tell kind of like 194 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:46,680 Speaker 1: a rugby scrum that they've mastered in which they get 195 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 1: the low man wins and they know the snap count. 196 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 2: So kudos for them for coming up with something. 197 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 1: But I'm glad they don't stop this play because somebody's 198 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 1: gonna say, well, you know what, hey, Patrick Mahone's throwing 199 00:08:57,320 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 1: for ten touchdowns on this one play. 200 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 5: We can't let it do that. So where where do 201 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:05,680 Speaker 5: we stop? So Steve got a jorder line. At some 202 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 5: point you have to join the line. At some point 203 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 5: they've already handicapped the game. Enough, let's let's let's slow 204 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 5: it down. 205 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 1: There they about to have they about to have that, 206 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 1: about to handicap the game again. NFL ev P Troy 207 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 1: Vincent also reiterated the hip drop tackle is something we 208 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 1: want to get out of our game. He added, the 209 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 1: greatest asset for any athlete is durability and availability. When 210 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 1: you have a play that has twenty five twenty to 211 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:31,680 Speaker 1: twenty five times the injury rate, it doesn't allow you 212 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 1: to fulfill your dreams. Now, I told you this, old Joe, 213 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 1: I said, they gonna get that a lot of them. 214 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 2: I said, because the injury is too great. 215 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:41,960 Speaker 1: You rarely see somebody get that tackle and come back 216 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 1: the same the next play. They always memp off the field. 217 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 1: We've seen Tony Poller get injured. We've seen Patrick Mahone 218 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:51,080 Speaker 1: get injured that play. We've seen so many guys. Dak 219 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 1: Prescott got injured. With the hip hip drop tackle. I 220 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 1: just knew because the high rate of injury, that they 221 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 1: were gonna do up them with it. 222 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, most definitely, I knew you were right. Obviously. 223 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 5: I think one of the things I think about, I'm 224 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:10,079 Speaker 5: just thinking about physics, the laws of gravity. If you 225 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 5: have someone pulling you down, I would just go with 226 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 5: the fall. Now, that's the way to counter it. If 227 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:19,440 Speaker 5: they didn't, If they didn't ban the hip drop tackle, 228 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 5: if you feel that pressure, just let it go. Is 229 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:24,679 Speaker 5: when you try to fight it, when you try to 230 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 5: continue to get more yards after. But again, it's a 231 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 5: great call for them, I mean for Troy Vincent and 232 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 5: the NFL Competition Committee excuse me to ban the hip 233 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 5: drop tackle because a lot of players, for one, that 234 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 5: have gotten hurt. Some have recovered. Patrick Mahomes obviously, Yeah 235 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 5: it took it to seem to Super Bowl, but he 236 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 5: did have a bad angle. He had a bad off 237 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 5: of that drop tackle. So but again it's a good 238 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:53,839 Speaker 5: thing again for the defenders. The defenders, now you're going 239 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 5: to have to be a little bit more disciplined on 240 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 5: your angles when you tackle. Now if somebody, if somebody 241 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:02,320 Speaker 5: is getting away from you, I think It's an advantage 242 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 5: of the offensive players as well, because as you tend 243 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:06,679 Speaker 5: to break away, if you're a little bit, if you're 244 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 5: a little bit faster than the person that's chasing you, 245 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 5: he damn they're gonna have to just let you go. 246 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:14,439 Speaker 5: You're gonna have to let you go, even if he's 247 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 5: in arm right, if he's in arms length to be 248 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:18,719 Speaker 5: able to reach and grab now you can. 249 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 3: I think that if you think about it, o. 250 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 1: Jo, I think the thing what happened is is that 251 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 1: they've seen this when I don't remember this now, it 252 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 1: might have happened because I was looking at the tackle. 253 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:32,439 Speaker 1: I do remember the horse collar tackle happening, But there 254 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 1: was not a whole lot this. This player has come 255 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 1: in say heavily, like the last five years. This wasn't 256 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 1: in there when you first got to the league. You 257 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:41,679 Speaker 1: didn't see a whole lot of tackles like this. So Joe, 258 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 1: I don't remember seeing a whole lot of tackles when 259 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 1: I got into the league, and even when I was 260 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:48,320 Speaker 1: exited at the end of two thousand and three. But 261 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:51,840 Speaker 1: over the last five years, you see, you've seen a 262 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:54,840 Speaker 1: guy at Ojo. I knew that I could put my 263 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 1: helmet on the guy me a certain way that I 264 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:00,440 Speaker 1: can injure it. I know that you know what's gonna 265 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:02,560 Speaker 1: happen when you when you drop all of your weight 266 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:06,319 Speaker 1: eight if you a dB whatever your weight is one 267 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 1: eight of the two oh five. If you alignebacker, you 268 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 1: two thirty to two fifty, you drop all your dead 269 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 1: weight on a man that standing up right. Yeah, you 270 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 1: already know what's gonna happen to get to get in 271 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 1: other yep. 272 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:22,680 Speaker 5: That's why I said the only counter offensively for players. 273 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 5: I mean, if you, if you're smart and you feel 274 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:26,840 Speaker 5: the force of someone with they wait on you to 275 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 5: just go with it, just flow with. 276 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 3: It and then prevent injury. 277 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 5: But again this is the right call by the NFL 278 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:35,839 Speaker 5: Committee and the Competition Committee and Troy Vincon because the 279 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 5: luck again defensive players again yet again are at a disadvantage. 280 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 1: Well they's what they've said is that in games scoring 281 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:47,719 Speaker 1: have gone a game, the game scoring has dropped the 282 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 1: last three season. They want to see upticking. That that's 283 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 1: why they that's why they instituted the rules to begin with. 284 00:12:55,120 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 1: The defenseless receiver, the quarterback, you know, not not hitting 285 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:04,679 Speaker 1: the defensives, quarterback driving the quarterback into the turf. Uh 286 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 1: incidental contact. They're trying, they won't scoring. The fans have 287 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:12,559 Speaker 1: already spoken as much as they say, Oh it's flag football. 288 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:16,079 Speaker 1: You love that. You love the thirty five to thirty 289 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:18,440 Speaker 1: eight ball game. You love the forty one thirty eight 290 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 1: ball games. You love the overtime ball game that end 291 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:24,680 Speaker 1: thirty one to twenty eight. You got tired of the 292 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 1: ten sevens. You got tired of that. You got tired 293 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 1: of seven sets. It's just like baseball. Oh, the purists 294 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:35,319 Speaker 1: lack a game two one. But the fan, the purists, 295 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 1: they're not enough purists that was going to the game, 296 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 1: that was watching the game, So they wanted to see 297 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 1: a nine to eight ball game in baseball. 298 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:44,959 Speaker 5: They want yet, they want to see they want to 299 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 5: see the home runs basketball. 300 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 2: You see what they did. They made the Lotter route, 301 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 2: They spaced the floor. 302 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 1: Now they the three point shot and nine teams are 303 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 1: getting up and down the court. And you see in 304 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 1: one thirty one, thirty eight to one, thirty five, one 305 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:01,199 Speaker 1: to one thirty the game a couple of weeks, a 306 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:03,679 Speaker 1: couple of months ago, one fifty three to one fifty one. 307 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:06,199 Speaker 1: That's what fans like to see. I don't want to 308 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:08,200 Speaker 1: and I'm not lying. I don't want to see. If 309 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 1: I go to a basketball game, I don't want to see. No, damn, 310 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 1: seventy eight to seventy one. 311 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:13,199 Speaker 3: Well, I have a question. 312 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:16,599 Speaker 5: If you have teams in basketball scoring at such a 313 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 5: high rate, does that mean there's a lack of defense 314 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 5: as well? 315 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 2: It is a lack of defense. 316 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 1: But they they the rules they called I think they 317 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 1: call a little bit more ticket attack. 318 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 2: Gil was saying that the hand check. 319 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 1: They stopped the hand check, but he said the handshack 320 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 1: have always been banned below the free throw line. 321 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 2: But back back. 322 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 1: When, back in the eighties or not, they are on 323 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 1: bar you They're like, nah, you ain't you ain't. You 324 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 1: ain't backing me down. But right, fans like scoring, no 325 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 1: matter what the sport is, be a hockey, uh, soccer, baseball, basketball, football, 326 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 1: people like scoring. 327 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 3: They know what that is. 328 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 1: They they the ball goes into the net, somebody cross 329 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 1: the ars on ojoe, they know what that is. 330 00:14:58,240 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 2: That's universal. 331 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:00,080 Speaker 3: Yeah. 332 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know who we were. I don't know 333 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:07,119 Speaker 2: who it was. Hey got Taylor swill Taylor will say yes, yes. 334 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 3: We winning? 335 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 2: Who is we? 336 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 1: I don't know if somebody's scoring, right, everybody else standing up. 337 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 1: I'm standing up too, So that's what we're gonna have. 338 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 1: So the tush push stays at least for another year, 339 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 1: and Tory Business reiterates that something has to happen with 340 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 1: the hill drop tackle. So I'm not gonna be surprised 341 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 1: if they have. If that's gonna be a penalty, and 342 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 1: you could imagine a fine that's coming with that, that's 343 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 1: gonna be a thirty even a first defense final gona 344 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 1: probably be somewhere right. 345 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 3: It's thirty thousand, yeah, most definitely. 346 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 5: Obviously it's fifteen yards if you if you have to 347 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 5: hip hip, if you have to execute the hip drop 348 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 5: tackle to make a play. But also I think the fine, 349 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 5: I think it'll start off for five thousand. Oh no, 350 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 5: I think it's started from five thousand. 351 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 1: No, you because the horse collar tackle is about thirty 352 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 1: about twenty five thousands? What's the what's the flag? Can 353 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 1: we look at U requickation? Oh yeah, I'm gonna help 354 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 1: ask look it up too. Oh no, no, no, hell now? 355 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 5: But faith hold on twenty twenty five, thirty thousand for 356 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 5: a first offense. Yeah, I'm shit, I'm had i'ma have 357 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 5: to peel that. I'm gonna have to peel last, and 358 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 5: we need to work something out. 359 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 1: What you got an apple or orange? Because that's the 360 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 1: only thing you're gonna peel. You ain't gonna get that fireation. 361 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 5: Hey, well they may may I give him a check 362 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 5: post post date, post date. 363 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 3: Don't cast it yet? 364 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 1: Uh sixteen out sixteen thousand, three hundred four first. 365 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 5: Offense Okay, okay, okay, I mean with the money they 366 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 5: making today, that's not bad. I'm stuck in my time. 367 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 5: That's why I'm still thinking first offense is gonna be 368 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 5: five thousands. Hell now, yeah, they don'et went up. 369 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 3: They don't went up. 370 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, it ain't. 371 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 1: Mm hm no, hell now, Oh, Joe, I mean, bro 372 00:16:57,360 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 1: when you mean what you thought of? 373 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 2: Broh, You've been retired a decade. You keep you, you 374 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:07,119 Speaker 2: keep telling that the cost of living the cost of 375 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 2: living keep increasing? 376 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, keep increasing? 377 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 1: Right? 378 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:10,159 Speaker 5: Right? 379 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:10,400 Speaker 2: Right? 380 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 5: Oh, so so so does the fine money. Okay, Okay, 381 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 5: that's that's why I said that. With the money they 382 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:15,920 Speaker 5: making today. Okay, you're right, you're right, you're right. 383 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:19,360 Speaker 3: Hey. The fact that what I've been retired the whole decade, what. 384 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 1: You don't it don't e four. So you did you 385 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 1: play into twenty thirteen? You've been you've been going to 386 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:31,120 Speaker 1: decade the leaves right, God damn. You came in two 387 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:33,639 Speaker 1: thousand and one. You say you played, I came in. 388 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:35,919 Speaker 1: I came into two time in two thousands. 389 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:38,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. 390 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:42,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, what was your last year in the league? Shoot 391 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:45,919 Speaker 3: twenty one? Because I played in I played in Canada 392 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 3: and I played in Mexico. 393 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:51,359 Speaker 2: Twenty eleven with your last year, So yeah, you've been 394 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 2: going to decade? 395 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, God, leave man, And you know it's funny. 396 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, bought a decade. Yeah, twenty elevel with your last year. 397 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 1: So you've been gone by thirteen years. Because I've been going. 398 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 1: I've been going two decades. 399 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:05,119 Speaker 3: Damn. 400 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 5: Ain't know it's funny about that. I've been going for 401 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 5: a decade. And I can still play Madden. 402 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 3: No, I ain't. No, I ain't talk about mad like. 403 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 5: I can still go out there and play right now 404 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 5: because I'm in such elite shapes still, because I just 405 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 5: never know when that called my card. 406 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 3: I never know. I stay ready because if you stay ready, 407 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 3: ain't got to get ready. 408 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:29,119 Speaker 2: Shapes pair eggs, those are shapes. You ain't taking this 409 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:31,880 Speaker 2: I'm just telling your. 410 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:34,160 Speaker 1: Spidery sis, don't tingle anymore because they've been the team 411 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 1: down too long. 412 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:37,880 Speaker 5: Now they ain't been down because I've been doing other 413 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 5: things that keep them things intact. My spikey point, last 414 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 5: time you play a football. 415 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 3: Game, oh two days ago? Oh no, I play, I play. 416 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:51,160 Speaker 3: I tell you I play rugby. 417 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:52,160 Speaker 2: That's a different type. 418 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:54,639 Speaker 1: The spider says, Hey, that's a different that's a different 419 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:57,680 Speaker 1: type of week. Hold on, you told you just told, 420 00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 1: like Chad earlier season, you get it in shape of 421 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:04,120 Speaker 1: football by playing football. Now you say you sharpen your 422 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 1: senses doing other things. 423 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, you can listen, stay with me. 424 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 5: Now, there's a way to work on all your senses 425 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 5: without actually having to play the game. There are other 426 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:20,640 Speaker 5: things that can substitute and keep your spidy senses intact. 427 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 5: That's something that I've always done just in case. Listen, 428 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 5: I would never play football again. But I'm just playing. 429 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:29,200 Speaker 5: I'm just saying, in general, I do other things to 430 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 5: give me that same madrinion rush, that same the unknown, 431 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 5: the same butterflies. 432 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:40,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's my life. You You took the words 433 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:41,120 Speaker 3: right out of my mouth. 434 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:45,719 Speaker 5: A roller coaster boxing playing tennis like doing things, but 435 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 5: at at at somewhat of a high level, as high 436 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 5: as I. 437 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 3: Can get and keep it keeps my senses going. 438 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 1: How do you and how do you heighten your sense 439 00:19:53,640 --> 00:20:09,199 Speaker 1: of taste without tasting? M hm, how do you? Oh, 440 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 1: I'll be I'll be tasting. I know you be taking 441 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 1: and you know you're saying sty. 442 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 3: Well, it depends, it depends. She showed we. 443 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 2: Were moving on. Well he's talking about that because you know. 444 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:23,639 Speaker 5: Okay, okay, ain't nothing roll a little tart man, you know, 445 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:25,639 Speaker 5: little tart Let twain to it. 446 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:27,679 Speaker 3: But go ahead. See I already know. 447 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:32,439 Speaker 1: But before Reil came along, you know you was. 448 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 2: Looking at talking about damn good that they taste like 449 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:35,120 Speaker 2: late text. 450 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 8: Man, don't Joe Man see you got me look put 451 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:50,680 Speaker 8: my hair off, man, put my hair, Let me put 452 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 8: my hair wrists back on and move this compensational lorde man, 453 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:55,200 Speaker 8: Bear's Jayleen. 454 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 1: Mad my bad, my bad, my bad bad, Bear's Jayleen, 455 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 1: John said Caleb Williams. Camp brings down Hollywood stuff. Let's 456 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 1: take a listen to the side where Jalen told k Adams. 457 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 4: Honestly, you just you just humble yourself coming in the building. 458 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:08,160 Speaker 2: I thought. 459 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:09,440 Speaker 4: It's one of those things where it's like you can't, 460 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:11,920 Speaker 4: like you said, you can't bring that Hollywood stuff into 461 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:14,400 Speaker 4: the building, especially now with guys who played this game 462 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 4: I thought at a high level for for consecutive years 463 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:20,680 Speaker 4: in the league. It's just something that guys like myself, 464 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:24,679 Speaker 4: guys like Tremaine TJ. I mean, just the vets now, 465 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:26,879 Speaker 4: Keenan Allen, I mean you just adding certain guys in 466 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:27,400 Speaker 4: the locker room. 467 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 2: I fight you, We're gonna, We're gonna see through. 468 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 4: And it's like, na, that what you did in college, 469 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:34,440 Speaker 4: the Hollywood, It's like now that that that you got 470 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:37,920 Speaker 4: to pool yourself. 471 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:41,399 Speaker 5: Come on, Jayalen, I mean, look, come on, Jayalen. You 472 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 5: can't stereotype the man because he went to USC. Baby, 473 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:46,200 Speaker 5: I mean you got you got the Jaylen. 474 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 3: You got to know. 475 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:49,640 Speaker 5: You got to know Caleb Williams personally before you make 476 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 5: the assumption that he is Hollywood. I understand that's where 477 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 5: he played. He played at USC, but he's given me 478 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 5: no reason to think that he's coming to the NFL 479 00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:00,920 Speaker 5: for this old Hollywood approach, you know, But I don't. 480 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:02,919 Speaker 3: I don't think it's a slight on Cayler Williams. 481 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 5: I understand what Jalen Johnson is talking about, just coming 482 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 5: in being yourself, you know, and just just playing ball, 483 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 5: doing what you did at USC but at the highest level. 484 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:15,200 Speaker 5: I just you gotta get get a man a chance. Yes, 485 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 5: get a man of chance. Let him come in. That's 486 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:20,439 Speaker 5: that's that's your quarterback, that's that's your leader, you know. So, 487 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:22,440 Speaker 5: I mean, I don't think he was trying to be rude, 488 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:25,440 Speaker 5: to be mean, because I don't think he knows Caleb 489 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:29,159 Speaker 5: Willim personally. To make that assumption, that's Hollywood based off 490 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:30,119 Speaker 5: the school he went to. 491 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:35,440 Speaker 1: What's understood doesn't need to be spoken. We understand everyone. 492 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 1: You come in there and have to earn his stripes. 493 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 1: We didn't say anything, but you ad better believe if 494 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:41,880 Speaker 1: you want an a war and we want to see 495 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 1: why you. 496 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:42,879 Speaker 2: Won that award. 497 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 1: Be a Buckeye, be at the Heisman, be at the Thorp, 498 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:47,639 Speaker 1: be at the Mackie. 499 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 3: It didn't matter. We needed to see. 500 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,239 Speaker 1: When we got the camp, we put those fans on 501 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 1: why he won that award. There was nothing, there's nothing 502 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 1: need to be saying. What's understood doesn't need to be said. 503 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 1: So I think Caleb with I don't like I said, 504 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 1: I don't know Caleb. I know who he is, I 505 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 1: don't know him from a candapaign, but I think he 506 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 1: comes in there with the right attitude showing that Okay, 507 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:14,120 Speaker 1: yes I'm a rookie, I'm gonna have to earn being 508 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:14,680 Speaker 1: number one. 509 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 2: That don't make you the leader. 510 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 1: Now you're gonna have to commit because you're gonna have 511 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 1: to convince a lot of those guys that have been 512 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 1: in the league five years, seven years, eight years, nine years, 513 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:27,920 Speaker 1: TENU League years that you can lead them. Yeah, that's 514 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:29,880 Speaker 1: what you're gonna That's what you're gonna have to convince. 515 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:33,440 Speaker 1: That's why it's so important for the quarterback to be 516 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 1: because he's the guy that you're gonna be asking to 517 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 1: lead your offense man. 518 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 3: And a lot of. 519 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:41,880 Speaker 1: Times the quarterback, for the most part, is probably one 520 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:44,919 Speaker 1: of the youngest, especially in today's time, because the day 521 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 1: we ain't got no thirteen fourteen year quarterbacks in the league. 522 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 3: Not many, not many. 523 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:54,359 Speaker 2: And so I get what Jalen Johnson is saying, but 524 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 2: I agree with you. You got to. 525 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 1: Give the man the benefit of the doubt until he 526 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 1: shows you otherwise, then you could say roll pulling to 527 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 1: the sides. 528 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 2: Of a bro. 529 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 1: Hey, hey, they're in Hollywood. That what you do and 530 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:06,880 Speaker 1: what you did in the USCA that the ain't gonna 531 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:07,199 Speaker 1: cut it. 532 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:08,879 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. You know. 533 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,120 Speaker 5: The funny thing about it is, even when you say 534 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:16,199 Speaker 5: what he did at USC, I have seen nothing that 535 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:19,639 Speaker 5: would say, you know what, God damn man, his mannerism, 536 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:22,920 Speaker 5: the way he act, oh man, he Hollywood. All all 537 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 5: I can base stuff off of is what the fuck 538 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 5: out saw on film. And if I were Jalen Johnson, Hell, 539 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 5: if I was God damn keenan Allen or received on 540 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,880 Speaker 5: that goddamn team. Oh man, I'm hype because I understand 541 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:33,920 Speaker 5: what I got it to Helm that's getting ready to 542 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:37,400 Speaker 5: lead us, oh man. And listen, buddy, is the real deal. 543 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:39,960 Speaker 5: We talk about any immense talent. We talked about a 544 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 5: generational talent. If if the Bears organization do what they 545 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 5: need to do to make sure they don't fail this 546 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,359 Speaker 5: young kid like them the rest of the quarterbacks that 547 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:50,639 Speaker 5: have come through that organization. 548 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:53,679 Speaker 1: I think the thing is is that you look and 549 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:56,679 Speaker 1: it's being reported that his last two years at USC, 550 00:24:56,880 --> 00:25:01,200 Speaker 1: he made north of ten million dollars in nil right, 551 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 1: he got you know what because he's that boy. Yes, 552 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:07,359 Speaker 1: and so you look like bro, you drive around Hollywood 553 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,879 Speaker 1: and you got a lambod Ferrari and you know you 554 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 1: got all these deals. Bro, don't come in here with 555 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 1: that because you start from scratch. Because what we ask 556 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:19,400 Speaker 1: you gotta do. Whatever whatever you had at college, we're 557 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:20,120 Speaker 1: gonna leave that there. 558 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:20,360 Speaker 3: Yeah. 559 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 5: Yeah started, Yeah, you started from you started on, you 560 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 5: start a new Yeah. 561 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 1: That's hey, that's supposedly how we do in a relationship. Right, oh, cho, 562 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 1: No matter what whatever whatever he heard about you, whatever 563 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:35,199 Speaker 1: you heard about her, we decided to come together. 564 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:39,199 Speaker 3: We're starting a new Yeah. That was a new me, 565 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:40,680 Speaker 3: new year. Knew me every time. 566 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 5: And then I told I told real, hey, listen, put 567 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 5: a band aid on. When you come to me, you 568 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:50,479 Speaker 5: better come here. Yeah, yeah, come to me, Come come here, honey. 569 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 5: I ain't got time to play, but listen, goddamn listen, 570 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:56,359 Speaker 5: chat y'all, excuse me. 571 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 3: What I'm about to say. 572 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:02,200 Speaker 5: I have a feeling, based on the talent that Caleb 573 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 5: Williams is that he can have the same effect on 574 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 5: the Bears organization the city of Chicago, the same way 575 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 5: Patrick ma Holmes heading the Kansas City Chiefs. 576 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 3: If they do. 577 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:16,640 Speaker 5: Right by him and building around that young fellow man. 578 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:20,720 Speaker 5: He's different, He's he's a phenomena. He's a phenomenon. He's 579 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 5: a come here, he's a phenomenal talent. Look look at it, Listen, 580 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 5: look at look at my Caleb Williams. 581 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,440 Speaker 3: I'm doing makeup challenge. 582 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 2: Let rail sit down right quick. 583 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:38,640 Speaker 3: I'm taking over a night care. What's how you feeling today? 584 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:40,160 Speaker 6: I'm feeling amazing. 585 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 1: They say, the Chat say, we need you to feel. 586 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 1: We need to have you on a couple of times 587 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:45,439 Speaker 1: a week sitting in. 588 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:47,480 Speaker 3: I'm ready. 589 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 6: You just got to send me my note, be prepared. 590 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:53,399 Speaker 6: I'm gonna let Chat take over to day. But you know, 591 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 6: I can't embarrass because I heard. 592 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 1: What is what made you decide that you wanted to 593 00:26:57,600 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 1: go make up free for the next several days or 594 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 1: weeks or how long you want to do this challenge? 595 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 3: Honestly, I'm I'm joking. 596 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:08,119 Speaker 6: I'm I just did it because Karesha has a song 597 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:13,160 Speaker 6: that's coming out. It's no makeup, no filters challenge. You're 598 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 6: pretty well no make up. So I just did it 599 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:19,240 Speaker 6: on TikTok and she just reposted it. But I feel 600 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 6: I hate wearing makeup. 601 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 1: Oh do you man? He hey, he did it? Get out? 602 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:28,159 Speaker 3: Get out this ship rail. I feel I feel like 603 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,240 Speaker 3: make up at ten years on? 604 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 6: Really mm hmm see I look, you know I look good, 605 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:37,879 Speaker 6: don't we don't hate her, don't be hated. 606 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:39,120 Speaker 5: He over here, I hated. 607 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 3: He trying to take. 608 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,479 Speaker 2: Away what he said you need make up. 609 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:47,480 Speaker 3: No he didn't say that, but he's just hating. 610 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,359 Speaker 1: Right, Oh Joe, get your hand off your hips. May 611 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:52,280 Speaker 1: get your hand off your heads. 612 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 3: Get out of the camera, man, rail over. Let the chance 613 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:57,919 Speaker 3: be reil shine man? Who man? 614 00:27:58,000 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 2: Who you? 615 00:27:58,320 --> 00:27:59,960 Speaker 3: Who you paying? You're paying me a hot man? 616 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:03,200 Speaker 1: Come on, man, we're about to break cut railer check too. 617 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:09,480 Speaker 6: That's right, but I'm serious. Make up, it's just it does. 618 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 6: Put it on, take it off. 619 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:15,239 Speaker 3: And men don't like women, not a whole lot of it. 620 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:17,240 Speaker 2: But they some of them put too much on the rail. 621 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 2: I mean some of them. 622 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,960 Speaker 1: They yeah, some of them have it like you spread 623 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:23,680 Speaker 1: that on what they use the butter knife to put 624 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 1: that makeup on. I mean, that's that's too that's too much. 625 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, it's kind of like when you 626 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 1: were in the high school of college and you kissed 627 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:33,920 Speaker 1: the girl in the whole side of your face was like. 628 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 3: Or when you yeah, white. 629 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 1: Man? 630 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 2: Oh you play for this dry cleaning? 631 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 3: Right, It's good. 632 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 7: I love y'all all right, man, Yeah damn you got 633 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 7: you man, You got her stealing the shine and take 634 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:56,360 Speaker 7: them a show man. 635 00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 3: It's bad enough. 636 00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 5: Everywhere I go in public now they talking about hey boy, 637 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 5: ah you ain't you dude? That day real. I'm like, 638 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 5: come on, man, stop trying me. Man, Yeah, we gotta 639 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 5: say we listen. We got to Simba down on that man. 640 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 5: We gotta Simba down. She can't be like it's like 641 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:14,560 Speaker 5: it's like nah, but I'm just saying they be embarrassed. 642 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 5: I mean, like in public they be disrespecting me, like, 643 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 5: ain't you dude? 644 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 3: What you mean? 645 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 1: Man? 646 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 3: You know my name? Chad Man? What you mean? Ain't 647 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 3: you dude? 648 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 5: Come on, come on, man, we gotta slow down, no more, 649 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 5: no more. She ain't she ain't get she ain't get 650 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 5: sheen coming on this ship. 651 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 2: You know, well you get real. We're gonna see railer camera. 652 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 1: Reial go be another rule while you at one room 653 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 1: rail of the other Papa water screen. 654 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 5: Nah nah, because now she's getting a little bit more 655 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 5: more attention than I am. 656 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 3: And now it's putting me on the back burn. 657 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 1: Okay, hold up, oh Joe, don't you want your woman 658 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 1: to shine? 659 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 3: Yeah? I wanted to shine? But how her light gonna 660 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 3: be bright in the mound? What it is? I'm supposed 661 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 3: to be leading, I'm supposed to believe? How I'm e 662 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 3: lade if she right now? 663 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:56,960 Speaker 2: You're an eclipse right now? I mean dark? 664 00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 3: You is? 665 00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 2: You know. 666 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 3: That's all that is? 667 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 6: Man? 668 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 2: So check us out, O Joe. Yeah. 669 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson released the new workout video, New Team, New 670 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 1: Workout Us from Russ Yeah. This one showed him working 671 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 1: out on his footwork while wearing sunglasses, which led to 672 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 1: a lot of jokes from the NFL fans. Jameis Winston 673 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 1: almost posted the video if him taking snaps on the 674 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 1: center in a full suit. Oh Joe, why do guys 675 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 1: feel they need to post their videos their workout video? 676 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 3: Ain't nothing wrong with that, hey, I like it. 677 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 5: I like the fact that he's posting his workouts, letting 678 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 5: people know he's locked in and staying on top of 679 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 5: what he needs to do. Technique, basic fundamentals, dropping back, pocket, 680 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 5: moving pocket presence, throwing the ball, staying on points. So 681 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 5: when he does get the camp. I'm sure Russell Wilson 682 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:46,480 Speaker 5: gonna hit the off season program. He gonna hit the 683 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 5: off season program running letting them boys. No, listen, I'm 684 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 5: coming here to lead us to you nowhere to make 685 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:55,240 Speaker 5: sure we're in contention. I like that they're posting this 686 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:57,640 Speaker 5: to let people know what he's doing and that. 687 00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:59,200 Speaker 3: He's Are you doing it for people? Are you doing 688 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:00,120 Speaker 3: it for you? 689 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 5: Well, hey, listen, it's the same thing when I when 690 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:05,719 Speaker 5: I was when I was playing, I didn't have access 691 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:07,920 Speaker 5: to social media, but I upload the video of the 692 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 5: YouTube of myself working ab Santana Moss, Andre Johnson, like 693 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,120 Speaker 5: old stuff you can see. So this is what they 694 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 5: do today in today's era of the you know, during 695 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 5: the social media era, you know, you upload some of 696 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 5: the stuff you're doing and it lets people into your 697 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 5: life outside of the game of football. 698 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 1: You don't like it, I mean each you own. I 699 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,760 Speaker 1: mean that's I mean, like you said, this is where 700 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,840 Speaker 1: we are now. Ojo got uploading a lot of their 701 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 1: workout stuff. 702 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 2: I don't. 703 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 1: I don't really have a problem with it. Uh hey 704 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 1: look at Jamis. Okay, so what's this, Hey, Jamis? 705 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 2: Jamis? 706 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 5: Jamis working on his snap. Hey, but he had a 707 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:48,960 Speaker 5: full trench coat. Hey, Jami dressed like Colombo. Damon dressed 708 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 5: like Colombo. Get hey, listen, I love dude, man, I 709 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:54,920 Speaker 5: want you know, I wanted this. Jamis understand or does 710 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 5: he even realize how unintentionally funny he is? 711 00:31:58,840 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 2: I don't. 712 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,480 Speaker 3: And he's funny without even trying to be funny. 713 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 1: I mean, man, come on with dif right here. You 714 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 1: know the kind of reaction that you was gonna get. 715 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:09,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it ain't. 716 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,160 Speaker 1: It'll be like you out there catching footballs in the 717 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 1: tough seed though. You know the reaction that you're gonna get. 718 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 2: So to say that. 719 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,960 Speaker 5: I ain't, no, you knew, Yeah, I mean it's a 720 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 5: good but it's nothing bad. You know, he just just 721 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:25,959 Speaker 5: getting the feel for the pig skin. You know, it's 722 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 5: it's been it's been a long time. He just signed 723 00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 5: with the Browns. 724 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 3: You know, let me let me touch it a little bit, 725 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 3: Let me touch a little bit, you know, get that snapping, 726 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,480 Speaker 3: Gonna take it, gonna take in a top coat. 727 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 5: None, none, But I would hate for him to have 728 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 5: to put on some Browns geared just to take one snap. 729 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:48,080 Speaker 5: You know, ain't nothing wrong, right, But he was there 730 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:49,720 Speaker 5: to sign his contract, so he ain't gonna be in 731 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:50,480 Speaker 5: short and show. 732 00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:51,960 Speaker 2: So he signed contract. 733 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 1: Somehow he found the Center in the weight room and 734 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:55,360 Speaker 1: say hey, let you boyetah. 735 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:56,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, they listen. 736 00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 5: I guarantee you that was the first time him in 737 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,240 Speaker 5: the center met and the center might have been out 738 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 5: working on some snaps and say, man, let me snap 739 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 5: what I'm saying for you real, let me get a 740 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:06,040 Speaker 5: feel for has gonna be. 741 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 1: Ain't wrong with that, It's just different now, Joe. I 742 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:15,840 Speaker 1: just think, yeah, sometimes I think guys it's more for 743 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 1: for for show than yeah. 744 00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 5: I mean, ain't nothing wrong, But I said you you 745 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,640 Speaker 5: are a little bit more closed off in general with 746 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:27,360 Speaker 5: your personal life and your public life. So I think 747 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:32,720 Speaker 5: you're one who really doesn't see the reason for posting 748 00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:35,560 Speaker 5: any and everything. And I kind of like it, Like 749 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:37,280 Speaker 5: I want to see what the receivers are doing in 750 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:40,959 Speaker 5: the off season, justin Jefferson, Chase, the dB, Saft Guardener, 751 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 5: all them boys. I want to see videos because hell, 752 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:46,040 Speaker 5: I'm gonna be joining up. 753 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 3: I'm gonna be joining them in the off seat in 754 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:47,920 Speaker 3: the train. 755 00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:51,840 Speaker 2: Somebody tweeted, I love you, Kyle, but run it. 756 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:54,600 Speaker 5: Uh. 757 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,520 Speaker 1: Somebody tweeted about four hours ago. I love you, Kyle, 758 00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,320 Speaker 1: but running and throwing in short catching past his pointless 759 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 1: when the only thing that matters is what you put 760 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,280 Speaker 1: on film. Everybody looks good in shorts on air against 761 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:07,000 Speaker 1: no competition. 762 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:08,719 Speaker 3: Who tweeted right, that was me? 763 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:09,200 Speaker 2: That was me? 764 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:09,960 Speaker 3: That was me. 765 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:15,840 Speaker 5: That that was that was That was about Marvin Harrison 766 00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,360 Speaker 5: Junior working out of the pro day in front of the 767 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:21,040 Speaker 5: NFL scouts when the NFL scouts have three years worth 768 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:23,359 Speaker 5: the footage of him at Ohio State where it makes 769 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:24,839 Speaker 5: no sense what he has to do. 770 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:28,880 Speaker 3: Russell Wilson throwing did you with me? Me? Finished? 771 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:30,279 Speaker 2: Did you have? 772 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:35,560 Speaker 5: I wasn't Marvin Harrison Junior coming out either question. I 773 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:38,719 Speaker 5: was also I was a wait. I was also a 774 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:41,799 Speaker 5: one for one, so I had no choice but one. 775 00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:45,239 Speaker 3: I only only. I was on the Division one level 776 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:48,319 Speaker 3: for one year. You forgot, you forgot then roll. I 777 00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 3: mean they saw you a seven monicle. No, they ain't 778 00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:53,400 Speaker 3: see me. But I want nobody there. I mean, I 779 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:54,280 Speaker 3: want to listen. 780 00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,359 Speaker 5: I made my grand entries at Oregon State. I got there, 781 00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:58,960 Speaker 5: and I got there in August, and I was going 782 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:02,799 Speaker 5: to December. Four months. That's all I had. My back 783 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:04,520 Speaker 5: was against the wall, so I had no choice but 784 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:06,160 Speaker 5: to go and do what I need to do in 785 00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:07,400 Speaker 5: front of these folks and let them know. 786 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:07,719 Speaker 3: Listen. 787 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:09,920 Speaker 5: I might have bounced around from school to school. I 788 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,200 Speaker 5: might have got thrown out from school to school. My 789 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 5: grades might might not have been what they should to 790 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:18,120 Speaker 5: be at a four year institution. But there's one thing 791 00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:21,239 Speaker 5: I can do. I can play some motherfucking ball. I 792 00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:23,359 Speaker 5: can play some ball. So I had to showcase that. 793 00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:26,400 Speaker 5: When it comes to Margaret Harrison junior, there is nothing 794 00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,600 Speaker 5: that he has to showcase on his pro date or 795 00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:32,560 Speaker 5: at the NFL combined because there's enough film, which is 796 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:35,319 Speaker 5: the only thing that matters, not what he does. And 797 00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:36,560 Speaker 5: god damn shorts and shirt. 798 00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:39,520 Speaker 1: I think the thing, if they had classroom on the 799 00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:40,759 Speaker 1: football field, you might have been good. 800 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:42,960 Speaker 2: So they should have started U about fifty on the 801 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:44,680 Speaker 2: football field, I. 802 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,279 Speaker 5: Think, Oh, listen, listen. When I was in school, I 803 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:49,200 Speaker 5: was I was brilliant. I was a four point zero student. 804 00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:51,560 Speaker 5: The problem was you couldn't get me to go to 805 00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 5: class because I was worried about playing football. 806 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:54,640 Speaker 3: That was my issue. 807 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:59,080 Speaker 5: My grandma already told me, boy listen, listen, stop focusing 808 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:03,120 Speaker 5: on football and get your goddamn education, because if football 809 00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:05,319 Speaker 5: doesn't work out, you got to have something to fall 810 00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:05,680 Speaker 5: back on. 811 00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,000 Speaker 3: And what you think my heart head at my hard 812 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:08,640 Speaker 3: head ass did? 813 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:09,320 Speaker 2: Yeah? 814 00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:13,640 Speaker 5: Focus on football, Focus on football, Focus on football, focus 815 00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:17,000 Speaker 5: on football. Get in trouble fighting here fight. I'm at 816 00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:21,319 Speaker 5: Langsty University for one Langsy diversit. I get thrown up 817 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:25,920 Speaker 5: for fighting. Rest in peace of doctor Ernest Holloway. I 818 00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:28,359 Speaker 5: come back to my grandma. My grandma like man, listen, baby, 819 00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:31,200 Speaker 5: I've done all I can with you. I'm tired of talking. 820 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:35,719 Speaker 5: I'm tired. I wash my hands. She shipped me to 821 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,239 Speaker 5: my mom in La. First time I lived with my 822 00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:42,279 Speaker 5: mama obviously. Nineteen ninety seven, I enrolled at Center Monica 823 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:46,719 Speaker 5: Junior College. First thing, I'm focused on football. Yeah, ask 824 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:47,840 Speaker 5: me how many classes I went to. 825 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:53,120 Speaker 1: Well, when you say ask, that means none. 826 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:54,160 Speaker 3: Listen, Billy showed U. 827 00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:56,319 Speaker 5: Because I'm out there practicing, I'm doing I'm working out, 828 00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:59,760 Speaker 5: I'm doing all the stuff. I'm doing everything I'm supposed 829 00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,239 Speaker 5: to be doing one except go to goddamn class. Sh 830 00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:06,440 Speaker 5: had ninth come nineteen ninety eight. Unk, I'm ineligible. Boom, 831 00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:08,480 Speaker 5: I got summer classes that go to all kinds of 832 00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:10,560 Speaker 5: classes to make sure I'm eligible to play in nineteen 833 00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:13,560 Speaker 5: ninety nine. Mini, that's this is three years down now, 834 00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:20,759 Speaker 5: so my fourth year of eligibility is goddamn yeah, Oregon State. 835 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,680 Speaker 5: So I obviously I got myself eligible to play in 836 00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:27,799 Speaker 5: ninety eight, No ninety nine and that one for one 837 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:31,240 Speaker 5: at Oregon State. Dennis Arison, I'll never forget. Thank you, Denny, 838 00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:32,120 Speaker 5: if you see this. 839 00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:32,959 Speaker 3: He gave me a shot. 840 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:35,279 Speaker 5: You know they don't pass out, no, give nobody, no 841 00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:37,239 Speaker 5: for a scholarship for no one year. 842 00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:38,879 Speaker 1: Man. 843 00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:39,760 Speaker 3: He gave me a shot. 844 00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:40,240 Speaker 1: Man. 845 00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:43,040 Speaker 3: I went to Oregon State and showed the f out 846 00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:44,320 Speaker 3: and I ain't looked back since. 847 00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:46,600 Speaker 5: So when it comes to the combine and having to 848 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:48,919 Speaker 5: perform in front of people and no shorts and shirts 849 00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:49,840 Speaker 5: that we're talking about. 850 00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,160 Speaker 3: I had no choice. I ain't had no choice. There 851 00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:55,520 Speaker 3: was too many red flags behind me for me not to. 852 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:02,600 Speaker 2: Look. I looked. 853 00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:04,759 Speaker 1: I took a different approach to you, o Joe. I 854 00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:07,279 Speaker 1: looked at like, Okay, I'm here at college. Help, I 855 00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:09,440 Speaker 1: might as well get a degree. I'm gonna be here 856 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:12,839 Speaker 1: four years. Nobody was going early. I think my year 857 00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:15,600 Speaker 1: was the first year that guys started like really Leaven early, 858 00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:18,839 Speaker 1: you know, and men and Lamar Lath and we had 859 00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:20,719 Speaker 1: several guys that left early, I mean, and they were 860 00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:22,799 Speaker 1: you know, high draft picks, but for the most part, 861 00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,040 Speaker 1: you stayed four years. And I didn't want to be 862 00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:27,480 Speaker 1: one of those guys that I was further away from 863 00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:30,319 Speaker 1: graduation when I left after four years than when I 864 00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:32,719 Speaker 1: was when I got there four years earlier. So I 865 00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:36,000 Speaker 1: was like, Hey, I'm gonna get this degree because people 866 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:37,359 Speaker 1: didn't think I could do a lot of people didn't 867 00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:38,600 Speaker 1: think I could do it. I know I could do it. 868 00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:41,120 Speaker 1: I just needed to apply myself. I bull jib around, 869 00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:42,200 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I wanted to be the 870 00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:44,839 Speaker 1: class clent. I wanted to be funny, and plus I 871 00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:48,200 Speaker 1: was a superior athlete to everyone else. I was like, Hey, 872 00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:50,600 Speaker 1: somebody gonna give me an opportunity. It might not be 873 00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:52,160 Speaker 1: where I want to go, but somebody gonna give me 874 00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:56,000 Speaker 1: a chance because the football skill, the basketball skill, the 875 00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:59,160 Speaker 1: track skill is too great for somebody to say, nah, 876 00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:02,600 Speaker 1: he can't do nothing for our university. So it was 877 00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:05,160 Speaker 1: sa battle State coach Davis. Bill Davis rest his soul. 878 00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:08,279 Speaker 1: He like son, I would be honest with you. If 879 00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:10,799 Speaker 1: I was drafted and I had the number one pick 880 00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:12,759 Speaker 1: of all the kids that's coming out of college, I'll 881 00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:13,520 Speaker 1: take you number. 882 00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:17,160 Speaker 3: One m And I like that. 883 00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:21,239 Speaker 2: I like I was gone. He couldn't come in the 884 00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:21,680 Speaker 2: house though. 885 00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:23,320 Speaker 1: You know, we had that car that we had a 886 00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:25,759 Speaker 1: We had that confege, we had that conversation to the 887 00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:30,080 Speaker 1: driveway because when I talked about signed with him, obviously, 888 00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:33,600 Speaker 1: you know, it was like it was like like three weeks, 889 00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:35,600 Speaker 1: oh Joe before we had to go to camp. So 890 00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:37,799 Speaker 1: I was just sitting around like okay. I was like, man, 891 00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:38,960 Speaker 1: I'm goin to go to the I'm and to go 892 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:42,120 Speaker 1: to the Air Force. Because my brother called me. He 893 00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:43,799 Speaker 1: came down, talked to me and said, the Savanna State 894 00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:45,920 Speaker 1: still have that scholarship for you. I said, yeah, Coach 895 00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,279 Speaker 1: Davis sent any time I need. If I wanted a scholarship, 896 00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:50,600 Speaker 1: he would take me. He said, well, call Coach Davis 897 00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:52,960 Speaker 1: and tell him you coming go for a year and 898 00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:54,320 Speaker 1: if you don't like it, saying I went for a 899 00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:57,279 Speaker 1: year foot you know college. It wasn't for me. I 900 00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:00,560 Speaker 1: called Coach David. They had to be like nine that night. 901 00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:02,759 Speaker 1: I said coach, I want to come to Savannah State. 902 00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:04,719 Speaker 1: He said, all right, home, God damn, I'm gonna put 903 00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:06,399 Speaker 1: my clothes on him. Coming down. I said, Nah, Coach, 904 00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:09,160 Speaker 1: I'm good. He said, hell Noah Son, somebody else gonna 905 00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:10,160 Speaker 1: come down there and sign. 906 00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:10,800 Speaker 2: You under me. 907 00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:13,879 Speaker 1: I said, coach, I give you my word. I'm gonna 908 00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:14,839 Speaker 1: sign with Savannah State. 909 00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:17,200 Speaker 2: Man. Coach you at my house about eight o'clock in 910 00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:19,600 Speaker 2: the morning. I had went out. 911 00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:22,640 Speaker 1: I had went out the night before O Joe, and 912 00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:23,840 Speaker 1: I had some money in my pocket. 913 00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:26,040 Speaker 2: I was like, damn, i'd've lost my money. Come to 914 00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:26,840 Speaker 2: find out the money was. 915 00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:28,600 Speaker 3: Hold on how much? How much you held? 916 00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:31,520 Speaker 1: How much you had forty eight fifty dollars, but you 917 00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:35,280 Speaker 1: know that a lot of money back in nineteen oh yeah, 918 00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:40,080 Speaker 1: and my circumstances. So Coach David came. He said, son, 919 00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:43,960 Speaker 1: I appreciate this. I'm gonna take care of you. My grandma. 920 00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:46,799 Speaker 1: My grandma never came out to the house. He just 921 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,640 Speaker 1: ate and that's kind of that's kind of how she 922 00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:52,160 Speaker 1: handled it. Oho, you know stuff like that. I remember 923 00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:54,759 Speaker 1: when I got when my homeboy, Ricky Thomas, he went 924 00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:56,760 Speaker 1: to the same school. He was my quarterback in high school. 925 00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:58,799 Speaker 1: He went to the same school that I went. He 926 00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:02,000 Speaker 1: went to Savannah State, and I remember he blew the 927 00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:06,400 Speaker 1: horn that uh that August heading down there. My grandmother 928 00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:08,360 Speaker 1: was in the bed. My grandma ain't never get up a, 929 00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:11,640 Speaker 1: never got out of the bed. She ain't a because 930 00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:14,880 Speaker 1: she felt she had done done all she could in 931 00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:18,160 Speaker 1: eighteen years. Giving me another five ten minutes speech before 932 00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:18,960 Speaker 1: I walked out the door. 933 00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:22,040 Speaker 2: She said, it wasn't gonna do no good now, no good. 934 00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:26,760 Speaker 1: I walked down. I left us. I left as a boy. 935 00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:32,000 Speaker 1: Remember looking back at that Remember looking back at the house. Yeah, 936 00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:35,759 Speaker 1: I knew what I was leaving behind, and I knew 937 00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:39,680 Speaker 1: I knew what the mission was, o Cho. When I 938 00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:45,160 Speaker 1: got in that car, it's just like, okay, go get 939 00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:47,000 Speaker 1: it done. Now, go get it done. 940 00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:49,400 Speaker 3: See see you were you was locked in. 941 00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:52,239 Speaker 5: It took me to understand what the mission was after 942 00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:56,160 Speaker 5: I hitmer goddamn head and fell multiple times at Langston. 943 00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:57,120 Speaker 1: Uh. 944 00:41:57,239 --> 00:42:00,120 Speaker 5: First year at Santa Monica, got myself together the all 945 00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:02,120 Speaker 5: a year where I was in eligible. I had to 946 00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:06,520 Speaker 5: get my grades right then it hit me like, hey man, boy, 947 00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:09,680 Speaker 5: that window of opportunity is by this big. 948 00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:11,240 Speaker 3: Either get it done. 949 00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:14,080 Speaker 5: Now or the chances in your childhood dreams are down 950 00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:16,560 Speaker 5: the dream and I had locked in and I did it. 951 00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:18,480 Speaker 5: My grandma waited for the first time, and the first 952 00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:20,719 Speaker 5: time I actually listen to what she had to say. 953 00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:23,400 Speaker 5: Listen to what she had to say. Look, what the 954 00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:24,120 Speaker 5: hell happened? 955 00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:24,880 Speaker 3: Oh Joe. 956 00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:28,200 Speaker 1: I tell my kids all the time, I say, sometimes 957 00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:31,239 Speaker 1: you have to bump your own head to realize how 958 00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:34,240 Speaker 1: much it is. See me telling you I did something 959 00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:39,000 Speaker 1: similar and bump my head. You didn't feel it. So 960 00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:41,600 Speaker 1: sometimes my grandma said, boy, sometimes you got to bump. 961 00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:41,919 Speaker 2: Your own head. 962 00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:44,439 Speaker 1: Because we can do all we can to protect them, 963 00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:48,319 Speaker 1: give them. They have access to things we never had 964 00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:51,600 Speaker 1: access to. Yeah, but at the end of the day, 965 00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,960 Speaker 1: they're gonna have to fall down and skin their own neither. 966 00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:56,040 Speaker 3: You got. 967 00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:59,680 Speaker 1: You got stuff on your sins, your needs from falling 968 00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:02,480 Speaker 1: down as a child, things that we tried to protect 969 00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:06,080 Speaker 1: our own kids from. So think about it, little Joe, 970 00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:08,160 Speaker 1: what you tried to do. You try to protect your 971 00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:09,080 Speaker 1: kids from all of that. 972 00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:09,880 Speaker 3: Blow it. 973 00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:12,919 Speaker 2: It's gonna be. Okay, don't cry, man. 974 00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:16,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, my grandma ain't never saying now one time, Okay, 975 00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:18,720 Speaker 1: it's gonna be. It's gonna be okay. But my grandma 976 00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:21,960 Speaker 1: ain't blow nothing. Put some alcohol on it. Now, So 977 00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:24,640 Speaker 1: now I'm preevious. You know, you don't see nothing. You 978 00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:27,040 Speaker 1: don't see nothing of white meat. And she poured alcohol 979 00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:27,360 Speaker 1: on it. 980 00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:28,840 Speaker 8: I'm like what, oh. 981 00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:30,600 Speaker 3: So? 982 00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:32,839 Speaker 2: And that that was the thing. 983 00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:35,000 Speaker 1: And so for me, O Joe, I didn't want to 984 00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:38,360 Speaker 1: let her down because she had done everything that she 985 00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:41,520 Speaker 1: possibly could to raise her nine and my mom's three. 986 00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:44,080 Speaker 1: And so I knew when she didn't get up out 987 00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:46,720 Speaker 1: of that bed and say, Son, I remember, don't drink. 988 00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:49,600 Speaker 1: Son said, don't get out, go out late. Son, ain't 989 00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:52,320 Speaker 1: your clothes in the morning, Son, be respectful. I knew 990 00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:54,480 Speaker 1: when she didn't give me that speech, because he had 991 00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:57,560 Speaker 1: been giving me that speech for eighteen years. She said, man, 992 00:43:57,600 --> 00:43:59,200 Speaker 1: ten more minutes, ain't gonna do nothing for here, and 993 00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:03,279 Speaker 1: either he got it, don't don't. Yeah, I walked out 994 00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:05,200 Speaker 1: the highlok. I was different. 995 00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:05,799 Speaker 2: I was. 996 00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:09,200 Speaker 1: I was never the same. I was never the same, Ohoe. 997 00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:11,520 Speaker 1: When I left that house, I was, I was a 998 00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:14,799 Speaker 1: different person. And I remember my brother. My brother's like 999 00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:18,399 Speaker 1: he he could see it. My sister will tell you 1000 00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:21,560 Speaker 1: I was. I was a different person. I wasn't the same. 1001 00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:22,759 Speaker 3: I never. 1002 00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:25,359 Speaker 1: I was never that same person that left Rocked four 1003 00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:28,040 Speaker 1: bucks three eighty five on that August day in nineteen 1004 00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:30,840 Speaker 1: eighty six. Even when I came back a month or 1005 00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:33,080 Speaker 1: two later, when we had a bye week, I wasn't 1006 00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:34,160 Speaker 1: the same I was. 1007 00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:36,680 Speaker 2: There was a focus, O shoe. There was a focus. 1008 00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:40,280 Speaker 1: And I couldn't believe because now I go from showering 1009 00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:43,359 Speaker 1: morning night, you know. 1010 00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:45,719 Speaker 2: Practice, I would shower before I go to practice. I 1011 00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:47,320 Speaker 2: would shower after practice. 1012 00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:49,600 Speaker 1: I was shot because you know, we practicing twice a day, 1013 00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:52,040 Speaker 1: So I'm going three showers a day, going to the 1014 00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:53,160 Speaker 1: bathroom inside. 1015 00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:56,280 Speaker 2: I come home, guess what, gotta wash in a tub? 1016 00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:58,040 Speaker 1: Gotta go back to the you know, got to go 1017 00:44:58,080 --> 00:44:59,919 Speaker 1: back to the woods to go to the bathroom again. 1018 00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:02,720 Speaker 3: The bathrooms. Yeah yeah, And now I'm. 1019 00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:05,399 Speaker 1: Thinking to myself, how many in my teammates have ever 1020 00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:08,600 Speaker 1: had to go to the bathroom in the woods. Oh Joe, 1021 00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:13,000 Speaker 1: I'm eighteen, Oh Joe, I'm nineteen. Oh cho I'm twenty 1022 00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:17,719 Speaker 1: years old going to the bathroom in the woods. I'm 1023 00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:20,840 Speaker 1: still taking a shower in a foot tub, warming the 1024 00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:22,839 Speaker 1: water up. We would, I mean, when I would work, 1025 00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:24,880 Speaker 1: we put water in a number two wash tub. I 1026 00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:27,560 Speaker 1: don't know if anybody from the country. You can google it, 1027 00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:30,600 Speaker 1: look up a number two washtub. I would put water 1028 00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:33,160 Speaker 1: in the washtub when I was working. I come home 1029 00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:35,520 Speaker 1: at noon, we got an hour to eat. I would 1030 00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:37,719 Speaker 1: put water in the washtub and leave it in the 1031 00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:40,600 Speaker 1: sun so the sun would heat it up. So that's 1032 00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:42,319 Speaker 1: my warm water when I come up when I get 1033 00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:44,359 Speaker 1: off work to take a bath in. So I'm taking 1034 00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:48,000 Speaker 1: a bath and a foot in a wash tub. Yeah yeah, 1035 00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:51,280 Speaker 1: I'm drawing water. So we drawing water out of a whale. 1036 00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:54,080 Speaker 1: We got a whale ochoe, I'm talking about this nineteen 1037 00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:57,919 Speaker 1: eighty six, nineteen eighty seven, nineteen eighty eight, nineteen eighty 1038 00:45:58,080 --> 00:45:59,120 Speaker 1: My brother would pro in eighty eight. 1039 00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:02,480 Speaker 3: So I'm drawing water. We drinking water from a whale. 1040 00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:06,560 Speaker 1: I'm drawing my water to the putting the sunder out 1041 00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:09,680 Speaker 1: of the sticket to take a bath in. Now, many 1042 00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:12,399 Speaker 1: times my brother would take a bath first. We used 1043 00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:16,880 Speaker 1: that same water. Yeah yeah, I know about taking a bad. 1044 00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:18,000 Speaker 2: First us that water. 1045 00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:21,799 Speaker 1: So I remember going home after being at Savannah State 1046 00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:25,239 Speaker 1: and showering three times a day, going to the bath 1047 00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:26,920 Speaker 1: through any time I want you and I have to 1048 00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:30,279 Speaker 1: worry about grabbing bugspray to spread around me because the 1049 00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:34,040 Speaker 1: mosquitoes tear me up. Or it's told at night and 1050 00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:35,920 Speaker 1: I got a big old jacket on and I'm out 1051 00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:38,800 Speaker 1: there in the wood going to the bathroom. 1052 00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:41,239 Speaker 2: I mean, I say, this ain't for. 1053 00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:44,319 Speaker 5: Me, said, you know, you know, it's funny you got 1054 00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:46,920 Speaker 5: you got you got people at times that come from 1055 00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:51,520 Speaker 5: different circumstances. But I think your focus was a little 1056 00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:56,200 Speaker 5: bit different because of you coming from Hormoguinas. Obviously Grandma 1057 00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:59,000 Speaker 5: and and and what she instilled in you, you know, 1058 00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:01,759 Speaker 5: throughout your tenure as an adolescent. But then when you 1059 00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:04,600 Speaker 5: get to somewhere like Savannah State, you have an appreciation 1060 00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:09,719 Speaker 5: for the atmosphere and the many these that you never 1061 00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:12,839 Speaker 5: really had before. So your focus was just different. Yeah, 1062 00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:15,960 Speaker 5: because of the access that you had once you got 1063 00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:18,680 Speaker 5: to college, and you know, youn't you weren't going back 1064 00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:20,840 Speaker 5: to that, you weren't going back, So it made it 1065 00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:23,200 Speaker 5: even that much easier for you to focus, as opposed 1066 00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:26,520 Speaker 5: to somebody that comes from a silver spoon play out 1067 00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:29,120 Speaker 5: and they wouldn't really a pretty they wouldn't they wouldn't 1068 00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:32,839 Speaker 5: really appreciate being away from home in college, because there's 1069 00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:35,120 Speaker 5: something that you've always got throughout your whole life. 1070 00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:38,040 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh and I remember, oh yo and all 1071 00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:41,120 Speaker 1: my I think I had one friend, Stacey, my homeboy. 1072 00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:43,480 Speaker 1: His birthday minded the twenty sixth to Junie, he is 1073 00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:45,560 Speaker 1: the twenty seventh. He was the only person that's ever 1074 00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:48,880 Speaker 1: been inside my house that was a friend. Because we 1075 00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:51,080 Speaker 1: didn't have no indoor plumbing, we didn't have no running water, 1076 00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:53,360 Speaker 1: so if somebody had to go use the bathroom, you know, 1077 00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:54,880 Speaker 1: you'd have to tell them a lie. Well, you know, 1078 00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:58,480 Speaker 1: the toilet broke, you're gonna have to go outside. So 1079 00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:03,080 Speaker 1: bad for me, o Joe, that was I couldn't. I 1080 00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:09,319 Speaker 1: couldn't see myself, my sister's age, my grandmother's age, having 1081 00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:11,000 Speaker 1: to go to the woods to continue to go to. 1082 00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:12,799 Speaker 3: The bathroom my grandma and up. 1083 00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:15,560 Speaker 1: My grandma ended up in a forties, in a fifty 1084 00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:18,480 Speaker 1: six old granted, and so that was eighty six. Granny 1085 00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:24,359 Speaker 1: was born in twenty three. So you know, nah nah 1086 00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:26,879 Speaker 1: nah nah nah nah. That wasn't That wasn't gonna work 1087 00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:29,000 Speaker 1: for me. That wasn't gonna work for me, Ojoe and 1088 00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:34,759 Speaker 1: eating what we ate, you know, I see I remember see, 1089 00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:38,360 Speaker 1: and people were saying, you lying, asked my brother. I 1090 00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:41,080 Speaker 1: remember we had a well, I grew up on a farm. 1091 00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:44,279 Speaker 1: So my grandfather would go get from to go to 1092 00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:46,840 Speaker 1: the grocery stores. And you know, the rotten fruit they 1093 00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:48,840 Speaker 1: got a rotten spot on it, they throw in that. 1094 00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:52,359 Speaker 1: All the bananas that got that's partially rotten, they throw 1095 00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:56,080 Speaker 1: that in the thing. So my grandfather threw it away. 1096 00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:58,799 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, oh nah, let me get let me get them, let. 1097 00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:02,399 Speaker 2: Me let me get it. So you don't know, oh joe. 1098 00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:03,560 Speaker 2: So we had hogs. 1099 00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:05,600 Speaker 1: So my grandfather was getting the cabbage and the stuff, 1100 00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:09,719 Speaker 1: all the produce for the hogs. I jumping in. I 1101 00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:12,239 Speaker 1: jump in the kneedy mother. See when people say needy, 1102 00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:14,239 Speaker 1: you know how your boy being there, I'll be. 1103 00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:16,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with you. 1104 00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:17,680 Speaker 2: That's where the term comes with. 1105 00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:19,000 Speaker 3: I be that needy. 1106 00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:20,960 Speaker 1: So I say, hog, you're not going to get this apple, 1107 00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:24,120 Speaker 1: You're not gonna get great many I get better. I 1108 00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:27,480 Speaker 1: go over there and get get apples, get great, get bananas, 1109 00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:30,600 Speaker 1: cut the browns off and eat it, wash it off, 1110 00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:30,960 Speaker 1: eat it. 1111 00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:32,120 Speaker 3: Yeah yeeah. 1112 00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:36,000 Speaker 1: So that was my thought process. I said, Lord, if 1113 00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:40,040 Speaker 1: I'm fortunate enough and I have kids. My kids couldn't 1114 00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:42,279 Speaker 1: live like this, I said. My kids ain't built like 1115 00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:42,880 Speaker 1: I'm built. 1116 00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:44,120 Speaker 3: They can't. 1117 00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:49,040 Speaker 1: They couldn't stay in one hour, let alone a day 1118 00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:51,320 Speaker 1: or a month or a year in my life. 1119 00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:55,279 Speaker 3: So I mean, that's the whole point. 1120 00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:57,160 Speaker 5: When you do have kids, you always want to make 1121 00:49:57,239 --> 00:49:58,920 Speaker 5: life easier for them so they don't have to go 1122 00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:01,520 Speaker 5: through the things you win through, because I don't think 1123 00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:04,040 Speaker 5: the kids in our era would be able to survive 1124 00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:07,759 Speaker 5: in the past, and based on what we had to 1125 00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:08,080 Speaker 5: go through. 1126 00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:11,480 Speaker 3: It's different. It's different, so many different. 1127 00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:17,040 Speaker 5: Rules are inclined to appease them, as opposed to one 1128 00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:19,160 Speaker 5: small rule being able to being able to. 1129 00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:22,000 Speaker 3: Discipline your child. You can't even do that anymore. 1130 00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:22,600 Speaker 2: You can't. 1131 00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:26,000 Speaker 3: You can't. Oh, you can't. Man, Listen, it was a day. 1132 00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:28,359 Speaker 3: It was a time. I know. I'm not sure how 1133 00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:31,560 Speaker 3: it was where you from, but I know where I'm from. Now. 1134 00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:33,719 Speaker 5: If your parents are, if your mama, if your parents 1135 00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:35,640 Speaker 5: ain't home, my grandma, my granddaddy wasn't now and I 1136 00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:38,359 Speaker 5: messed up, and I did. Somebody had no business. All 1137 00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:41,600 Speaker 5: the neighbors had the right to be my ass Oh yeah, 1138 00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:44,560 Speaker 5: And then when they get home and the neighbors. 1139 00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:47,399 Speaker 3: Tell my grandma, my granddaddy what I did. I get 1140 00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:51,759 Speaker 3: my ass again? You have community ass whippings. Oh yeah, 1141 00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:54,280 Speaker 3: because to the village. That was my grandma favorite. 1142 00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:57,839 Speaker 5: It takes the village and we're gonna make sure if 1143 00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:00,319 Speaker 5: you mess up, I want you all to make sure 1144 00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:02,239 Speaker 5: y'all beat his ass, and when he get them me, 1145 00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:02,800 Speaker 5: I'm gonna. 1146 00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:03,120 Speaker 3: Beat him again. 1147 00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:05,640 Speaker 1: That's exactly how it was, O Yoe. There was a 1148 00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:08,000 Speaker 1: respect level for all the people, all the adults in 1149 00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:11,480 Speaker 1: the community. All that sassing and talking back. You don't 1150 00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:13,799 Speaker 1: tell me what to do. I don't remember talk back 1151 00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:16,320 Speaker 1: to Oh you mama, you don't tell me what to do. 1152 00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:17,040 Speaker 2: Man. 1153 00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:19,080 Speaker 1: They tear you up and say, boy, hey Mary, you 1154 00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:20,840 Speaker 1: know I had to cut that boy tail. He was 1155 00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:22,400 Speaker 1: up there sass and he was doing this. 1156 00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:27,759 Speaker 3: Listen. Did you see some of them clips with them 1157 00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:30,000 Speaker 3: kids talking back? 1158 00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:31,520 Speaker 2: I would have never made it. 1159 00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:32,160 Speaker 3: You already know what to. 1160 00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:35,439 Speaker 5: Talk about, talking back, talking about their mama, talk about 1161 00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:37,600 Speaker 5: I don't feel like it. 1162 00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:41,520 Speaker 3: I don't want to get off the gate man ship. 1163 00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:45,879 Speaker 2: Man, you can be in there watching you my girl 1164 00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:47,239 Speaker 2: say hey, y'all get outside and play. 1165 00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:48,439 Speaker 1: We watch the TV. 1166 00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:59,759 Speaker 3: Hey, it wasn't though. Hey, they hey hot out there. 1167 00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:02,320 Speaker 1: Oh Joe, we used to like try to play basketball, 1168 00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:05,719 Speaker 1: and that we were playing the basketball this summer. Whooa boy, 1169 00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:07,759 Speaker 1: it's too hot. Y'all will have a stroke. Come out 1170 00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:10,200 Speaker 1: there soon as the man come back for the truck 1171 00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:12,719 Speaker 1: to go in the fields. All right, boy, here, if 1172 00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:14,440 Speaker 1: it's too hot to play basketball, but it's not too 1173 00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:15,000 Speaker 1: hot to work. 1174 00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:15,360 Speaker 3: In the fields. 1175 00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:18,200 Speaker 1: B I said, what I'm looking at. I'm looking at 1176 00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:20,160 Speaker 1: this Saga Spagan looking at me. That's my brother, were 1177 00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:22,239 Speaker 1: looking at our cousins. Now, you just told us it's 1178 00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:24,560 Speaker 1: too hot to play basketball, but it ain't too hot 1179 00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:27,680 Speaker 1: to going down one hundred degree hey. Time time we 1180 00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:29,840 Speaker 1: hit the back of that pickup truck, you know, dragging 1181 00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:32,480 Speaker 1: our feet. I don't know you to have, but we 1182 00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:34,799 Speaker 1: dragging our feet on the road. All right, boys, y'all 1183 00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:38,160 Speaker 1: be careful, but oh your those for the time. Though, 1184 00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:45,320 Speaker 1: hard times make tough men, tough men make weak kids. 1185 00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:50,080 Speaker 1: M Now, people in the jack you'll understand what I'm 1186 00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:56,440 Speaker 1: talking about, Oh Joe. The Dodgers fire Show, hell Tany's 1187 00:52:56,480 --> 00:53:01,440 Speaker 1: interpreter interpreter over claims of massive faith show. He Tani's interpreter, 1188 00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:03,640 Speaker 1: I'm not going to try to say his name, has 1189 00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:06,719 Speaker 1: been accused of stealing four point five million from Otane's 1190 00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:10,719 Speaker 1: to pay down gambling debts from a California bookie who hey. 1191 00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:13,920 Speaker 1: The wire transfer came to light because the FBI was 1192 00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:17,480 Speaker 1: investigating a man named Matthew Bauer for running an ill 1193 00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:22,760 Speaker 1: illicit book making scheme, and Otani's name serviced in investigations. 1194 00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:26,799 Speaker 1: Two five hundred thousand dollars payments had been wired directly 1195 00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:30,640 Speaker 1: from show Hal Tani's bank account to Borrior. The Dodgers 1196 00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:36,279 Speaker 1: immediately fired Muzarahi, the interpreter, but it doesn't add up 1197 00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:41,120 Speaker 1: Otane's team, permitting the interpreter to sit for a ninety 1198 00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:44,800 Speaker 1: minute interview Tuesday night. The interpreter told ESPN that he 1199 00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:48,640 Speaker 1: started placing bets on credit with Barrier after meeting him 1200 00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:51,160 Speaker 1: at his San Diego poker game in twenty twenty one. 1201 00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:53,799 Speaker 2: Got big poker games going on out here. I still 1202 00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:54,359 Speaker 2: away from there. 1203 00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:59,680 Speaker 1: After grin to cover his losses, Otane thought the interpreter 1204 00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:03,920 Speaker 1: still might gamble money away, so he logged into the 1205 00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:07,520 Speaker 1: computer and sent it the bowyer himself. According to Miseraki, 1206 00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:12,719 Speaker 1: their close relationship had once been described as a brotherhood. 1207 00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:16,200 Speaker 1: It was only after the interpreter interview that Otani's represented 1208 00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:19,239 Speaker 1: it changed their tune. Now the claim was that he 1209 00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:22,520 Speaker 1: was a victim, that Otani was a victim of massive 1210 00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:25,520 Speaker 1: theft at the hands of the interpreter, and that he 1211 00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:27,440 Speaker 1: never tried to cover the gambling losses. 1212 00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:29,560 Speaker 2: It doesn't add up. It's not adding up. 1213 00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:29,920 Speaker 1: O Joe. 1214 00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:33,320 Speaker 2: Otani'sft claim makes a little bit more sin. 1215 00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:37,960 Speaker 3: So I'm compute. Okay, I'm confused. 1216 00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:42,000 Speaker 5: So is it theft on behalf of the interpreter and 1217 00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:45,120 Speaker 5: stealing money or is it Otani one that likes to 1218 00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:47,920 Speaker 5: gamble as well? Because if Otani likes to gamble, and 1219 00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:51,080 Speaker 5: we talked about baseball, we already know how they strike 1220 00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:53,200 Speaker 5: with the iron fish when it comes to gambling and baseball. 1221 00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:58,520 Speaker 1: What happened was what I believe happened because the interpreter 1222 00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:01,600 Speaker 1: and Otani has a very t relationship, is described as 1223 00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:09,279 Speaker 1: a brotherhood. The inn has a gambling problem. Okay, what's 1224 00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:13,160 Speaker 1: the likelihood of the interpreter having access directly to show 1225 00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:18,680 Speaker 1: Hazel Tani's account. Yeah, so that's not very much money 1226 00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:21,280 Speaker 1: was coming directly from Show Hazel Tani's account. 1227 00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:23,239 Speaker 2: To cover the gambling debt. 1228 00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:28,560 Speaker 1: Now this this, this, this ille illicit gambling ring is 1229 00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:35,359 Speaker 1: under federal investigation. So now show hell Tani. How many 1230 00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:37,680 Speaker 1: of them? Show hell Tana? You think in the United States? 1231 00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:38,359 Speaker 3: Just one? 1232 00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:41,040 Speaker 1: And is that one that plays that's not currently on 1233 00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:45,400 Speaker 1: the dodge? So now hold on, how's this tied to 1234 00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:48,960 Speaker 1: what's really going on? See it makes me sense. See 1235 00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:51,840 Speaker 1: what happened was I believe he was covering for his 1236 00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:55,280 Speaker 1: they're so close, they're like brothers because he's been as interpreter. 1237 00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:59,719 Speaker 1: He's covering the debt. It's a bad look because it's 1238 00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:02,760 Speaker 1: makes it seemed like shoe Hey knew and was covering 1239 00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:06,279 Speaker 1: the dead. So now once it comes to light, no, 1240 00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:09,080 Speaker 1: he was stealing money because we got to clear show hate. 1241 00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:13,160 Speaker 3: Oh okay, okay, okay, Well hold on, now what are 1242 00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:15,040 Speaker 3: we betting on? I know we're not betting on baseball. 1243 00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:17,320 Speaker 2: No, I don't think. I don't think he's taking baseball. 1244 00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:20,480 Speaker 1: I think he's probably betting on football, probably basketball, whatever 1245 00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:21,000 Speaker 1: the case may be. 1246 00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:21,840 Speaker 2: I don't know. 1247 00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:25,080 Speaker 5: But still in general, now this is something you're gonna 1248 00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:26,640 Speaker 5: have to educate me on because I don't know much 1249 00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:29,320 Speaker 5: about it now as an active baseball player, Are you 1250 00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:32,440 Speaker 5: allowed to bet on other things outside of baseball or 1251 00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:35,600 Speaker 5: is that still frowned upon in the baseball We're not sure. 1252 00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:37,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not sure. 1253 00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:41,400 Speaker 1: I know like golf, golf can bet on themselves, the golfers, 1254 00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:43,000 Speaker 1: like like Tiger could bet on himself. 1255 00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:44,480 Speaker 2: I bet a million dollars. 1256 00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:48,759 Speaker 1: That I'm gonna win the Masters, right, But as a 1257 00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:51,520 Speaker 1: football player, because there's so many things that there's a 1258 00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:55,399 Speaker 1: lot of moving parts, and because the money is so substantial. Now, 1259 00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:57,719 Speaker 1: that's what I couldn't understand what Calvin really, That's why 1260 00:56:57,719 --> 00:57:00,520 Speaker 1: I couldn't understand what some of those Lions player. Bro, 1261 00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:03,560 Speaker 1: you trying to win five hundred dollars and you make 1262 00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:06,760 Speaker 1: eleven million, you're selling your money. 1263 00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:11,640 Speaker 2: You're selling hundreds for five. It made no sense. 1264 00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:16,240 Speaker 1: Now when somebody back in the late like the Black 1265 00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:19,800 Speaker 1: Sox scandal, when they gonna give you, okay, they give 1266 00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:23,680 Speaker 1: you one thousand dollars and you making two hundred, now okay, okay, 1267 00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:24,880 Speaker 1: that makes a little sense. 1268 00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:27,720 Speaker 3: Or box would thought they would fixed the fight. 1269 00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:31,880 Speaker 1: But in today's game, why would a guy making thirty 1270 00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:36,920 Speaker 1: million fix a game fifty million and ruined everything? 1271 00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:42,240 Speaker 2: So it made no sense. What makes sense, is that 1272 00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:43,640 Speaker 2: the interpreter had a problem. 1273 00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:46,400 Speaker 1: He got in over his head and so, oh Joe, 1274 00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:48,960 Speaker 1: remember I told you I lose a hand, I double 1275 00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:49,560 Speaker 1: the next hand. 1276 00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:51,600 Speaker 2: Lose that head. Now you see how you can get it. 1277 00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:52,280 Speaker 3: Hold in the hole. 1278 00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:58,560 Speaker 1: So if you gambling, hey you have lost one hundred thousand, Hey, 1279 00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:00,840 Speaker 1: double it, And I want to pay this, this, this, 1280 00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:03,560 Speaker 1: this and this and so that one hundred thousand. Now 1281 00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:05,680 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, if you don't win, you're down 1282 00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:06,560 Speaker 1: eight hundred thousand. 1283 00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:14,400 Speaker 5: Because boy, yeah, boy, But I hope obviously Antonio is 1284 00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:18,240 Speaker 5: I mean and Shay hate show show, God damn it, 1285 00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:19,080 Speaker 5: show hate. 1286 00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:21,800 Speaker 3: Otani is a crazy talent. 1287 00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:25,400 Speaker 5: Obviously, I don't even watched baseball, but continuously seeing him 1288 00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:27,600 Speaker 5: on the news for what he's doing, obviously watching him 1289 00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:30,520 Speaker 5: on ESPN, I've come to learn about him through there, 1290 00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:34,320 Speaker 5: understanding how great he is as a pitcher, as a slugger, 1291 00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:39,040 Speaker 5: and I hope, I hope everything goes in his favor. 1292 00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:42,320 Speaker 5: I'm not sure about the rules as far as him 1293 00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:45,120 Speaker 5: being an active baseball player and betting on other sports. 1294 00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:47,040 Speaker 5: I'm not sure if that is frowned upon in the 1295 00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:49,080 Speaker 5: baseball world, but we will find out. 1296 00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:53,880 Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm someone that's wired large sums 1297 00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:59,040 Speaker 1: of money, and even when they're gonna call me mister 1298 00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:03,760 Speaker 1: sharp X came and wants to wire this summer money. 1299 00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:06,320 Speaker 2: Do we have your permission? 1300 00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:11,040 Speaker 1: Yes, So they're not just gonna be wiring five hundred 1301 00:59:11,080 --> 00:59:17,800 Speaker 1: thousand dollars from that account without without showing oh no, well. 1302 00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:20,520 Speaker 3: Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay okay. I see where 1303 00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:24,600 Speaker 3: you're going with it now, the volume