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Speaker 1: heavy Wednesday. Everybody hope all you guys are having a
Speaker 1: great week. We are starting a series of videos today
Speaker 1: that I'm going to be doing over the next two weeks,
Speaker 1: not every day, but just kind of mixed in throughout
Speaker 1: the next two weeks where I'm going to be covering
Speaker 1: the trade deadline. I'm going to be zeroing in on
Speaker 1: specific teams, talking about what they have going on at
Speaker 1: this point in the season and what I expect the
Speaker 1: trade deadline to look like for them. As we are
Speaker 1: now just a few weeks out. I believe it's January sixth,
Speaker 1: so less than three weeks away at this point. The
Speaker 1: three teams we're hitting today are the Milwaukee Bucks, the
Speaker 1: Denver Nuggets, and the Golden State Warriors. I'm going to
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Speaker 1: can hit them in our Friday mail bags throughout the
Speaker 1: rest of the season. All right, let's talk some basketball,
Speaker 1: and you know important disclaimer here. You know, every time
Speaker 1: we're talking about trades, everything is unlikely. Trades are hard
Speaker 1: to make, especially under the new CBA. Any of you
Speaker 1: guys who are fans of a team understand that when
Speaker 1: we discuss trades, everything is unlikely. All the guys that
Speaker 1: I'm mentioning today, lots of teams want them. Every team
Speaker 1: could benefit from having Cam Johnson on their team. Every
Speaker 1: team could benefit from having Zach Lavine if it wasn't
Speaker 1: for the salary implications, right, and there are some teams
Speaker 1: where it still makes sense, and there may be a
Speaker 1: few teams that are interested. Same thing goes for Jimmy Butler.
Speaker 1: Same thing goes for all of these backup centers. You
Speaker 1: know how many teams want a backup centers. Like if
Speaker 1: all of you guys want Mark Williams, only one of
Speaker 1: you guys might get Mark Williams, right. So, like, again,
Speaker 1: just a disclaimer off the top, We're gonna be talking
Speaker 1: about a lot of scenarios. I'm aware that they are
Speaker 1: long shots, but I want to try to just zoom
Speaker 1: in on each individual team and what they should try
Speaker 1: to accomplish as we head into this trade deadline. So
Speaker 1: starting with the Milwaukee Bucks, a little quick recap of
Speaker 1: their season. They're currently sitting at twenty one to seventeen.
Speaker 1: That's tied for the ninth best record in the NBA.
Speaker 1: They are thirteenth in offense and eleventh in defense. Since
Speaker 1: November twelfth, since their ugly start, they are nineteen and nine.
Speaker 1: Technically twenty and nine if you count their end season
Speaker 1: tournament win over the Oklahoma City Thunder, they are thirteenth
Speaker 1: in offense and sixth in defense. And for all to
Speaker 1: talk about their defense last year, which was the primary
Speaker 1: point of contention, their ability to defend at the point
Speaker 1: of attack, their ability to hang with foot speed. In transition,
Speaker 1: they actually have built a pretty solid foundation on that end.
Speaker 1: They've been a good defense for a long time now.
Speaker 1: Brooke and Giannis are defending the back line at an
Speaker 1: extremely high level. On most nights they've had their ugly knights,
Speaker 1: like they got just eviscerated by the New York Knicks
Speaker 1: the other day, but like on most nights, they're defending
Speaker 1: at a really high level. Andre Jackson, Gary Trent Junior
Speaker 1: and AJ Green have provided some stability at the point
Speaker 1: of attack at that two guard spot. Depending on the night,
Speaker 1: there's different guys that can go with different combinations of
Speaker 1: traits that they need. And one of the things they've
Speaker 1: done to help them in transition is they've just abandoned
Speaker 1: attacking the offensive glass. They just straight up don't do it,
Speaker 1: which has given them a better transition defense than you
Speaker 1: would expect given the lack of foot speed they have
Speaker 1: on the roster. So I actually think hunting for a
Speaker 1: defensive upgrade wouldn't do much for this team because they've
Speaker 1: kind of found schematically the best version of this that
Speaker 1: they can be at this point in the season without
Speaker 1: compromising their offensive identity. Right, So if there was an
Speaker 1: upgrade to be made, it would be a talent play.
Speaker 1: Be a talent play on the offensive end of the floor.
Speaker 1: I do think it would need to be in a
Speaker 1: certain context though, so obviously you can't include dam Or Janis.
Speaker 1: The other guy I think you can't include is Brook Lopez.
Speaker 1: I think Brook, next to Jannis, is vital to your
Speaker 1: defensive floor in the regular season, and I think he's
Speaker 1: vital for specific matchups in the postseason. He's what allows
Speaker 1: Giannis to operate as a low man as much as
Speaker 1: he does. He's what operates. It allows Giannis offensively to
Speaker 1: have more space to operate because of his ability to
Speaker 1: operate on the perimeter on offense. I just don't think
Speaker 1: you can include Brook Lopez. So it kind of handcuffs
Speaker 1: you a little bit in the type of guys that
Speaker 1: you have to include and puts you into a little
Speaker 1: bit of a predicament at the backup center spot. But
Speaker 1: let's look get some potential examples. The two that have
Speaker 1: been bouncing around the last couple of days are Jimmy
Speaker 1: Butler and Zach Lavine as like just big swing talent
Speaker 1: upgrades for the Milwaukee Bucks. Complicated because the Bucks are
Speaker 1: a second apron team, so they would have to get
Speaker 1: under the second apron as part of a trade. But
Speaker 1: they can effectively do that by bringing a third team.
Speaker 1: And essentially it has to do with their ability to
Speaker 1: aggregate salaries their second apron team right now, so they
Speaker 1: can't aggregate salaries, but if they structure the trade in
Speaker 1: a certain way then they can, right And so it's complicated.
Speaker 1: It's a long shot. I'm not trying to sit here
Speaker 1: and pretend like this is a sure thing, but these
Speaker 1: are actual possible deals under certain machinations in the CBA.
Speaker 1: So let's start with Jimmy Butler. There's a lot of
Speaker 1: posturing going on in Miami with like who Jimmy's willing
Speaker 1: to play for, things along those lines. I saw a
Speaker 1: report that said that there's nothing that says Jimmy wouldn't
Speaker 1: want to play with the Bucks, So like, it is
Speaker 1: a possibility that I think is worth exploring. What would
Speaker 1: the deal look like. It would involve a third team,
Speaker 1: and it would involve Chris Middleton, Bobby Portis, and probably
Speaker 1: Pat Connitton going out in the deal. And again there's
Speaker 1: multiple steps there. That'd be draft compensation, there'd be bringing
Speaker 1: the third team. It'd be complicated, but that would be
Speaker 1: the gist of the outgoing salary for the Bucks Chris Middleton,
Speaker 1: Bobby Portis, and Pat content That would leave you with
Speaker 1: if you pulled off that deal, if you send out
Speaker 1: those three guys and got back Jimmy Butler through all
Speaker 1: of the machinations, your starters. If you're gonna start Jimmy Butler,
Speaker 1: he's been a good catch and shoot guy for a
Speaker 1: few years now, but he's not a hyper aggressive catch
Speaker 1: and shoot guy. He's not like a what I would
Speaker 1: consider to be an off ball score. He's kind of
Speaker 1: just like a guy who will take him sometimes when
Speaker 1: he feels like it, when he's got lots of space.
Speaker 1: And so with that being the case, I think i'd
Speaker 1: prefer to have Jimmy next to at that two to
Speaker 1: three spot, another elite catch and shoot guy. So I
Speaker 1: don't think i'd start Andre Jackson next to Jimmy Butler
Speaker 1: for that reason. I think you could have some spacing issues.
Speaker 1: I'd either go with Jimmy at the two next to
Speaker 1: Torrean Prince and just have those guys kind of pick
Speaker 1: perimeter defense responsibilities based on the matchup, or I'd start
Speaker 1: AJ Green, who's been shooing shit out the basketball, and
Speaker 1: I would just put Jimmy Butler at the three next
Speaker 1: to AJ, knowing that Jimmy can take at least certain
Speaker 1: types of perimeter defense defense assignments that AJ Green would
Speaker 1: struggle with, and AJ's jump shooting would just be really
Speaker 1: valuable in that context. So let's call it AJ Green.
Speaker 1: Your starting lineup at that point becomes Damian Lillard, AJ Green,
Speaker 1: Jimmy Butler Johannisontena, Antenna Kompo, and Brook Lopez. I don't
Speaker 1: really have concerns with that lineup. I just think that's
Speaker 1: an awesome lineup with a lot of defensive talent, with
Speaker 1: still quite a bit of shooting. Again, Jimmy's the guy
Speaker 1: you can't leave wide open at least Dames lights out
Speaker 1: shooting aj Green's lights out shooting Brook Lopez again, Like,
Speaker 1: if you leave him open, that could get your beat.
Speaker 1: I like that kind of structure. It's the bench where
Speaker 1: things get a little tricky, and it's not the perimeter.
Speaker 1: You actually have a pretty decent amount of perimeter talent there.
Speaker 1: Torrian Prince, solid bench wing. Andre Jackson Junior. We know
Speaker 1: what he can do at the point of attack. Gary
Speaker 1: Trent Junior. That's a solid bench guard piece. You still
Speaker 1: have Delon Wright, you still have Ryan Rollins. A bunch
Speaker 1: of guards, right, But losing Bobby Portis puts you in
Speaker 1: the predicament of having to stagger Giannis in Brook at center.
Speaker 1: You're gonna have groups that just have Brook at center,
Speaker 1: just have Giannis as center, not as many as many
Speaker 1: groups with the two of them playing together. You might
Speaker 1: have to look at making a separate deal for a
Speaker 1: backup center or in the buyout market, something along those lines.
Speaker 1: So there's definitely a downside in terms of depth at
Speaker 1: the center position and in terms of just what things
Speaker 1: could look like in terms of energy. A big downside
Speaker 1: someone might point out is like, Hey, an injury to
Speaker 1: Brook Lopez, all of a sudden, nuke's your season. And
Speaker 1: I don't disagree, but I would say that was already
Speaker 1: the case regardless of whether or not you make a trade,
Speaker 1: Like if you don't do anything this deadline and you lose,
Speaker 1: if you lose Brook Lopez and you start having to
Speaker 1: start Bobby Portis, you're gonna run into similar issues down
Speaker 1: the line. So I don't really think that makes that
Speaker 1: much of a difference, and I think it undercuts the
Speaker 1: real upside. I still think Jimmy Butler in a playoff
Speaker 1: context is one of the highest impact players in the league.
Speaker 1: He'd be a force multiplier for the Bucks defense if
Speaker 1: you layer him with Brooke and Giannis. There's just a
Speaker 1: lot of physicality that but you can see in that
Speaker 1: specific spot. Like one of my recent playoffs, the last
Speaker 1: time I watched Jimmy Butler to play playoff basketball was
Speaker 1: him doing a pretty damn good job guarding Jamal Murray
Speaker 1: in the NBA Finals, at least at stretches. I mean,
Speaker 1: he was a big part of how they won Game
Speaker 1: two in that series. So, like Jimmy Butler is still
Speaker 1: such a useful defensive player on the perimeter, but also
Speaker 1: in off ball situations. I think there's just a lot
Speaker 1: of upside on the defensive end of the floor, and
Speaker 1: then he just gives the Bucks another option for half
Speaker 1: course shot creation an interesting kind of ball handler slash
Speaker 1: two man game partner with Damian Lillard. One three pick
Speaker 1: and roll is one of the most difficult actions to
Speaker 1: defend in the league when you've got a really good
Speaker 1: pull up shooting guard that can beat people off the dribble.
Speaker 1: We saw this with Stephen kd Because you need to
Speaker 1: guard these big, matchup attacking forwards with a certain type
Speaker 1: of guy, and you need to guard these quick pull
Speaker 1: up shooters with a certain type of guy. And there's
Speaker 1: not a lot of translatability between those two types of defenders,
Speaker 1: and so if you get any of them switched, there's
Speaker 1: just a lot of opportunities to attack on either side
Speaker 1: of that action. That's you know why inverted ball screens
Speaker 1: work so well in any contact even when Giannis runs
Speaker 1: them right, So like there's there's and it doesn't even
Speaker 1: necessarily have to be inverted. Even if Jimmy is just
Speaker 1: screening for Dame. There's a lot of good that can
Speaker 1: come from that if Jimmy's defender lingers and he gets
Speaker 1: an opportunity to drive, or if he gets a switch
Speaker 1: that he can exploit. He also just has a certain
Speaker 1: level of translatability to the playoffs because he's a big,
Speaker 1: physical wing who thrives when things get nastier and more physical.
Speaker 1: He's just a kind of guy who thrives in that
Speaker 1: type of environment. Again, the downsides you understand, an injury
Speaker 1: to brook nukesture season Jimmy Butler also comes with several
Speaker 1: other considerations, like his attitude and willingness to accept a role.
Speaker 1: I'm personally not super concerned about that, but that's something
Speaker 1: that's at least worth bringing up. The desire for a
Speaker 1: new deal is where I would get concerned, Like, he's
Speaker 1: gonna want a multi year, fifty million dollar plus deal, right,
Speaker 1: and so even with the projected ten percent annual increases
Speaker 1: in the cap that we're going to see through the
Speaker 1: end of the decade, as they've smoothed the new TV
Speaker 1: deal into the picture, that's still a lot too account for.
Speaker 1: So to me, Jimmy Butler represents your best chance to
Speaker 1: win the title in the short term, but probably represents
Speaker 1: an all in type of move that within a year
Speaker 1: or two could end to this entire deal, this entire
Speaker 1: roster being blown up. Right, So let's say you try
Speaker 1: this year, and you try next year, and even if
Speaker 1: you do win the title, but let's just say for
Speaker 1: the sake of argument, you don't win the title. You'd
Speaker 1: go for it for two years, and you're sitting at
Speaker 1: it the summer of twenty twenty six and you're like,
Speaker 1: what do we do. Jimmy would be thirty six by
Speaker 1: the start of next season, thirty seven by the start
Speaker 1: of the following season. Dame thirty five the start of
Speaker 1: next season, thirty six the start of the following season.
Speaker 1: Both players next year would still have multiple years left
Speaker 1: on their deal if Jimmy signed a new deal, right,
Speaker 1: and both deals would be pretty difficult to trade as
Speaker 1: stars that have had injury concerns in the late part
Speaker 1: of their career, and you're also just left with little
Speaker 1: in the way of assets. If you lose Dame and
Speaker 1: Jimmy to retirement, that trades, whatever it is you lose,
Speaker 1: then they get out of the picture. You just don't
Speaker 1: have a lot with which to pivot around Yiannis for
Speaker 1: another phase. Because remember, Yiannis is thirty, so like there's
Speaker 1: still a lot of time for Yannis to be playing
Speaker 1: at extremely high level. Jannis, in my opinions, playing the
Speaker 1: best basketball of his career right now. So like, if
Speaker 1: you do make a Jimmy Butler trade, it's by far
Speaker 1: the most aggressive. I think it also gives you the
Speaker 1: best chance to win the title. But the flip side
Speaker 1: is is it's like it is the gamble of all
Speaker 1: gambles because if it works, in the next two years,
Speaker 1: you have a second title with Yannis. Yannis cements himself
Speaker 1: as an all time great, the Bucks cement themselves as
Speaker 1: an ultra successful NBA franchise. All of that's there, and
Speaker 1: that's just the thing that makes it all worth it.
Speaker 1: But no matter what, if you win or lose either
Speaker 1: next summer or the summer after, you're likely blowing things
Speaker 1: up because you're not gonna have the assets to rebuild
Speaker 1: around Yiannis, which is going to force you to likely
Speaker 1: have to trade him and start from scratch. This is
Speaker 1: why I see a guy like Zach Levigne as more
Speaker 1: of a long term, viable type of move. He's twenty
Speaker 1: nine years old and he's playing some of the best
Speaker 1: basketball of his career, if not the best basketball of
Speaker 1: his career. Yes, he's had some injury concerns, but I
Speaker 1: do think they're a little bit overblown. He only played
Speaker 1: in twenty five games last year, that's true, but he
Speaker 1: averaged sixty five games played in his previous five seasons,
Speaker 1: which is not terrible. I mean, he's missing seventeen games
Speaker 1: a year, but nothing insane. Insane, right, And he played
Speaker 1: in seventy seven games last year or the year before
Speaker 1: he got hurt. Excuse me, So he played in twenty
Speaker 1: five games last year, he played in seventy seven games
Speaker 1: a year before, and he's only missed five games so
Speaker 1: far this year, so sandwiched around that nasty season last year,
Speaker 1: he's actually been very available. He's missed ten games total
Speaker 1: in both and basically a season and a half, so
Speaker 1: I would argue his availability is better than his reputation
Speaker 1: would lead you to believe. Another way to look at
Speaker 1: it for Bucks fans would be like this, Chris Middleton
Speaker 1: has averaged fifty seven games played in his last five season,
Speaker 1: so you'd be effectively turning one injury concern in Chris
Speaker 1: Middleton into another. It was Zach Lavine, except for Zach
Speaker 1: Lavine is currently healthy. Chris is playing, but Zach is
Speaker 1: currently healthy, playing at a higher level than Chris, a
Speaker 1: substantially higher level than Chris. The trade would look in
Speaker 1: terms of the machinations, roughly the same as the Butler trade.
Speaker 1: You're still sending out Portis and content. You're still sending
Speaker 1: out Chris Middleton right still involves a third team. Still,
Speaker 1: probably there's draft compensations. Probably not quite as crazy was
Speaker 1: zachly Levine's deal, but it still is a similar type
Speaker 1: of machinations in order to make the trade work, Except
Speaker 1: for the Bucks would save a little bit more money.
Speaker 1: I think you'd save about ten million dollars on that
Speaker 1: deal in their current cap situation. I actually like the
Speaker 1: offensive fit with Zach Lavine a bit better. I think
Speaker 1: Zach would be able to more seamlessly transition between off
Speaker 1: ball and on ball scoring roles. I could see entire
Speaker 1: games in the postseason where he functions as just a
Speaker 1: hyper aggressive spot up player, but they can. I also
Speaker 1: see entire games where it's like Dame has a rough matchup,
Speaker 1: entire series where Dame has a rough matchup. Zack has
Speaker 1: a better matchup and you lean on him more in
Speaker 1: shot creation responsibilities. But Zach is just not in the
Speaker 1: same stratosphere as Jimmy Butler as a defender. Now there's
Speaker 1: some tree, there's some different stuff there. Like I think
Speaker 1: you could get away with playing in Andre Jackson Junior
Speaker 1: next to Zach Lavine, so that still gives you the
Speaker 1: Andre Jackson Jannis Brook kind of foundation defensively, but certainly
Speaker 1: not the level of playoff defense that you could reach
Speaker 1: with Jimmy Butler in the picture. He also is just
Speaker 1: not anywhere near his experience as Jimmy Butler. Jimmy Butler's
Speaker 1: played in the NBA Finals twice, He's been in so
Speaker 1: many big playoff moments. He's gone toe to toe with
Speaker 1: some of the best players in NBA history in a
Speaker 1: postseason series. So like all of that needs to be addressed.
Speaker 1: But again, I think Zach Levine unlocks the ability to
Speaker 1: play more of a defensive minded player at the two.
Speaker 1: I also think Dame and Giannis's playoff experience and their
Speaker 1: ability to kind of be comfortable in those situations will
Speaker 1: help Zach in those situations. So I'm not overly concerned.
Speaker 1: So like, I don't think this deal has quite the
Speaker 1: champ being ship potential is the Jimmy Butler deal, But
Speaker 1: I just think it's more prudent while still giving you
Speaker 1: a legitimate upgrade and improving your chances to win the
Speaker 1: title in the short term, it's prud in the long
Speaker 1: term because let's look at it this way. We talked
Speaker 1: earlier about the what it would look like if if
Speaker 1: you traded for Jimmy Butler and things went south right,
Speaker 1: and just how you'd probably have to blow things up
Speaker 1: if you let's say you've made a trade for Zach
Speaker 1: Lavine and you flamed out bad in the postseason this year,
Speaker 1: and you're like, Okay, we just need to just completely
Speaker 1: revamp this thing. You could probably trade Dame this summer
Speaker 1: for a pretty decent haul of role players and picks,
Speaker 1: and then you could rebuild around Zach Lavine and Giannis
Speaker 1: and Tenacumpo, who would both be in their early thirties.
Speaker 1: That is a potentially viable path to pivot while still
Speaker 1: maintaining enough belief from Giannis that he's not gonna want
Speaker 1: to run out the door. Right, Like, if Zach continues
Speaker 1: to play at this level, it's he's playing a lot
Speaker 1: closer to the Dame Lillard's of the world than a
Speaker 1: lot of these other shot creators around the world around
Speaker 1: the league. Right. So, like, I just i'd be lying
Speaker 1: if I didn't say, I just want to see what
Speaker 1: it looks like to see Jimmy Butler in Milwaukee. I
Speaker 1: think it'd be so much fun. But I think Levine
Speaker 1: is the more prudent option if they're looking for a
Speaker 1: big swing talent upgrade on the offensive end of the four.
Speaker 1: I've seen a lot of talk about trading for a
Speaker 1: backup center. I keep saying the same exact thing with
Speaker 1: this sort of thing with Bobby Portis, and like, I
Speaker 1: get it. I've watched Bobby Portis a lot, and his
Speaker 1: defense can be so abominably bad at times that it's
Speaker 1: destructive to what a team is trying to accomplish. But
Speaker 1: he also legitimately does a lot of good and he
Speaker 1: has nights where it functions better defensively. That is the
Speaker 1: backup center experience. Guys backup centers in the league are
Speaker 1: backup centers for a reason because they're too inconsistent or
Speaker 1: they have too many weaknesses to function as a starting
Speaker 1: center in this league. So I'm going to say the
Speaker 1: same thing about the backup center spot that I would
Speaker 1: say about anyone. Let's say you don't make that hyper
Speaker 1: aggressive trade and you're just looking to upgrade Bobby. Or
Speaker 1: let's say you make the up the massive trade, Bobby's
Speaker 1: out of the off the roster now and you need
Speaker 1: to find someone to anchor that spot. I'm gonna say
Speaker 1: the same thing I would say about any other team
Speaker 1: in the league. I would not give up real assets
Speaker 1: for a backup center. If you can get into the
Speaker 1: picture where you find a decent like whether it's a
Speaker 1: Mark Williams, or it's a Dayron Sharp, or it's a
Speaker 1: Robert Williams, or it's a Jonas valanceiunas, and I don't
Speaker 1: like Jonas. I don't think he could play in the playoffs.
Speaker 1: But like, if you can get a guy like that
Speaker 1: without having to give up much, by all means, jump
Speaker 1: on it. I just think that sort of thing it
Speaker 1: needs to be more of a trade of circumstance, a
Speaker 1: trade of opportunity rather than like we're hunting for a
Speaker 1: backup center when push comes to shove, especially on a
Speaker 1: team with Brooke and Giannis, who are both capable of
Speaker 1: anchoring units as a center, I just don't think it's
Speaker 1: worth giving any sort of asset return for. And frankly,
Speaker 1: the options that we've been presenting I don't think are
Speaker 1: that materially better than Bobby. They are materially better than
Speaker 1: Bobby on defense, but not materially better than Bobby as
Speaker 1: overall basketball players, because they're backup centers that come with
Speaker 1: flaws and that's just the reality of that position group
Speaker 1: another way to look at it, Guys like I feel
Speaker 1: like Christian KloCo for the Lakers has been doing a
Speaker 1: pretty decent job at backup center, and I've seen a
Speaker 1: lot of Lakers fans that are like, we should go
Speaker 1: get this guy, we should go get that guy, and like,
Speaker 1: I'm not saying they shouldn't if the opportunity presents itself,
Speaker 1: but like the gap between Christian KloCo as like a
Speaker 1: guy they signed off the street and another traded for
Speaker 1: backup center is pretty small in my opinion, and certainly
Speaker 1: not big enough to justify the price in a lot
Speaker 1: of these cases. So again, if there's a trade to
Speaker 1: be made for Milwaukee, I think it's a big swing
Speaker 1: for a perimeter talent to try to get up into
Speaker 1: the talent level that you see at the top of
Speaker 1: the Eastern Conference. All right, let's look at the Denver
Speaker 1: Nuggets big win in Dallas last night. Jamal Murray had
Speaker 1: his best game of the season. Just an absolute shot
Speaker 1: making display, really really impressive stuff from Jamal. Looked really comfortable,
Speaker 1: was hunting aggressively from the three point line early. I
Speaker 1: had the mid range shot going at his tough shot,
Speaker 1: makee going. It was just it was beautiful to watch.
Speaker 1: A big question that the Nuggets have to confront before
Speaker 1: they do anything with the trade deadline is what to
Speaker 1: do with the starting lineup because you have this situation
Speaker 1: here right Russell Westbrook has slotted into the starting lineup
Speaker 1: as Aaron Gordon has been out with his calf injury,
Speaker 1: and Russ has looked great, and the team has looked great.
Speaker 1: Right Like. They're thirteen and five since December eighth. That's
Speaker 1: the fifth best record in basketball. They're second in offense
Speaker 1: and eleventh in defense. Over that span, the Nuggets are
Speaker 1: playing really good basketball. Aaron Gordon, though, is one of
Speaker 1: your most important and best players on the team, one
Speaker 1: of your best players. He's got to eventually start. I
Speaker 1: think that the defensive back line simply needs him out there.
Speaker 1: Not the Dallas game last night, but the previous Dallas game. Guys,
Speaker 1: remember the one Denver almost lost. There was a lot
Speaker 1: of like these possessions where Jokic was coming out to
Speaker 1: the level and Lively was rolling. And when he was
Speaker 1: rolling and getting the catches, they were tagging him from
Speaker 1: the weakside, but they were tagging in with smaller players,
Speaker 1: and Lively was able to quickly go to post moves
Speaker 1: and just easily finish over those guys on the top.
Speaker 1: That's where Aaron Gordon is so valuable. Aaron Gordon is
Speaker 1: the defensive anchor that makes Jokic viable in the big
Speaker 1: picture context of contending with the best teams in the league.
Speaker 1: So I think that Aaron Gordon's got to be out there.
Speaker 1: So it gets complicated. I would continue to start Russell
Speaker 1: Westbrook though, meaning I would move Christian Brown out of
Speaker 1: the starting lineup, and I'd go Jamal Russ. Michael Porter
Speaker 1: junior Aaron Gordon, Nicole Yokich. The reason why is, like
Speaker 1: Russ is playing the best basketball. He's by far the
Speaker 1: best basketball he's played since giving up that top tier
Speaker 1: superstar role when he left the Washington Wizards, Right Like,
Speaker 1: he struggled so much with so many different things over
Speaker 1: the last few years on so many different teams, and
Speaker 1: it seems to be clicking for him right now. He's
Speaker 1: hitting the open jump shot at a substantially higher rate
Speaker 1: than he has in any recent season. He's finishing at
Speaker 1: the rim at a substantially higher rate than he has
Speaker 1: in any other season, specifically doing really well with Jokic.
Speaker 1: Right So, there's some lightning in a bottle there that
Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to mess with if I was a nugget,
Speaker 1: if I was in the Nuggets organization. I also think
Speaker 1: Christian Brown's pro without an ego. Who will be accepting
Speaker 1: of event role, who's played an event roll before, And
Speaker 1: you can adjust down the line. If you stick with
Speaker 1: starting Russ and it falls apart, you can always move
Speaker 1: Russ back to the bench. But while this lightning in
Speaker 1: the bottle is captured, I would try to stick with
Speaker 1: as much Russ in the starting lineup as possible to
Speaker 1: continue to just kind of breed that continuity and try
Speaker 1: to just further explore that concept. So again, I would
Speaker 1: just move Aaron Gordon in, I'd move Christian Brown out,
Speaker 1: and I'd keep Russell Westbrook in the starting lineup. Now,
Speaker 1: what about the deadline again, Verse twenty four and fifteen.
Speaker 1: So far this season, they have seventh best record in
Speaker 1: the NBA, fourth best offense, sixteenth best defense since December eight,
Speaker 1: thirteen to five, fifth best record in basketball, second and offense,
Speaker 1: eleventh in defense. I am completely out on the Nuggets
Speaker 1: making a big swing trade for an offensive star. Frankly,
Speaker 1: I think it's just unnecessary. They've been the second best
Speaker 1: offense in all of basketball for almost six weeks now.
Speaker 1: They have a one to twenty six Clutch offensive rating,
Speaker 1: which is absurd, and we all know that their offense
Speaker 1: scales well to the postseason because Jamal Murray shot making
Speaker 1: works in the postseason, Nikola Jokich best player in the
Speaker 1: world that works in the postseason. Everything about what Denver
Speaker 1: does works in the postseason. So I just trust that
Speaker 1: group to score the basketball when it matters. End of story.
Speaker 1: I do not think that there is a reason to
Speaker 1: make a big swing trade for an offensive star. So
Speaker 1: if there is a play to make, it's a smaller
Speaker 1: trade for bench depth, right, But any perimeter based player
Speaker 1: will lead to issues with the important context of the
Speaker 1: big picture for Denver, which is making sure you continue
Speaker 1: to get reps for guys like Julian Strawther, for guys
Speaker 1: like Peyton Watson. So, for instance, let's say if you
Speaker 1: were like, we just need a rock solid, you know,
Speaker 1: perimeter guard to come in to help the situation, right,
Speaker 1: Like if you were like, oh, let's go get Josh
Speaker 1: Green or something along those lines, like just a just
Speaker 1: a solid bench guard, and that that's gonna eat into
Speaker 1: Julian Strather's minutes, That's gonna potentially eat into a Peyton
Speaker 1: Watson's minute. So like, I I think those guys need reps.
Speaker 1: So I wouldn't miss mess with that, especially when you're
Speaker 1: gonna just scale up the starter's minutes when you get
Speaker 1: into the postseason anyway, and those guys will probably play less, right,
Speaker 1: at least straw there will probably play less, right, So
Speaker 1: I think you got to go for a low salary
Speaker 1: point your high salaries Jokic, Murray, Gordon, and MPJ. None
Speaker 1: of those I can afford to be traded in my pay,
Speaker 1: and so pretty much comes down to Zeke Naji and
Speaker 1: Dario sarch which is roughly about fourteen million dollars worth
Speaker 1: of salary. Zeke Nagi's Contract's gonna be somewhat tough to
Speaker 1: trade because he has three years left on his deal.
Speaker 1: He's just not a very good NBA player, and teams
Speaker 1: will be hesitant to take on that type of long
Speaker 1: term commitment under the circumstances. So without being the case
Speaker 1: like Zeke's deal is just gonna be really difficult to offload.
Speaker 1: You're almost gonna have to include more draft compensation just
Speaker 1: to do that. So what I look at is the
Speaker 1: best option for Denver to be exploring in this deadline
Speaker 1: is packaging just Dario Sarche or maybe Dariosarch in a
Speaker 1: minimum something like that for a backup center, because that
Speaker 1: takes minutes away from the Dariosarge DeAndre Jordan group without
Speaker 1: affecting the Julian Strawther Peyton Watson group, while not messing
Speaker 1: with the offensive continuity that we talked about with some
Speaker 1: sort of big aggressive swing. Right. So with that being
Speaker 1: the case, the first guy I look at his guy
Speaker 1: like Nick Richard's out of Charlotte, really nice fit salary
Speaker 1: for salary. Both make five million dollars right Yonas valentiunis.
Speaker 1: I think one he makes too much and then two,
Speaker 1: I don't think he can play in the playoffs, so
Speaker 1: I'm like completely out on him. The Lakers have been
Speaker 1: really high on Yonas Valentunas. I don't understand that either.
Speaker 1: Walker Kessler is an interesting option. He'd be expensive, like,
Speaker 1: he probably costs you the twenty thirty one first round
Speaker 1: pick and a couple of second round picks, and it's
Speaker 1: just a lot of money or excuse me, a lot
Speaker 1: of compensation to spend on a guy that would just
Speaker 1: be Yoki's backup. It also handcuffs your ability to make
Speaker 1: trades in the future because you wouldn't have any other
Speaker 1: first round picks to trade. But there's real upside there.
Speaker 1: He's the best player out of all the guys that
Speaker 1: have listed so far at that center spot. He gives
Speaker 1: you a legit chance to anchor a real and competent
Speaker 1: bench group, and he has a team option for five
Speaker 1: million dollars next year, so by the time you have
Speaker 1: to pay him, you could very well see a twenty
Speaker 1: percent increase in the salary cap. But as intriguing as
Speaker 1: a Walker Kessler type of deal is, I still think
Speaker 1: the Nuggets should stay cheap, stay as cheap as possible.
Speaker 1: I think this window they're in is relatively short, but
Speaker 1: Jokic will be the best player in the world for
Speaker 1: several years after that, so I think there is some
Speaker 1: form of more substantial pivot for the Nuggets that is
Speaker 1: coming down the line in like a year or two,
Speaker 1: and when that happens, I think they'll be glad they
Speaker 1: have that extra first round pick, especially since a guy
Speaker 1: like Walker Kessler doesn't materially affect their chances of winning
Speaker 1: the title this season. So if I had to pick one,
Speaker 1: I think i'd go with Mark Williams. He's averaging twenty
Speaker 1: three points and fourteen rebounds per thirty six minutes, so
Speaker 1: he's really active in his minutes. He's been excellent at
Speaker 1: finishing as a role man this year. He is pretty
Speaker 1: decent touched when he gets a few feet away from
Speaker 1: the rim. I think he's a really nice fit. But
Speaker 1: I also would not trade a first round pick for
Speaker 1: him with all these backup center trades. As I said,
Speaker 1: I don't think it's worth including real substantial draft compensation,
Speaker 1: so like as I kind of zoom out. Even with
Speaker 1: even if the Nuggets don't make a single trade this year,
Speaker 1: I still like them as a rock solid second tier
Speaker 1: championship contender with a real chance to beat anybody. They
Speaker 1: currently on DraftKings have the fifth best odds to win
Speaker 1: the title. I used to look at it as you know, Boston, Cleveland, OKC,
Speaker 1: and then a small gap and then Dallas was my
Speaker 1: next team. But with the back injury for Kyrie and
Speaker 1: Lucas still being out, I think Denver probably has a
Speaker 1: better case there. So I'd say off the top tier,
Speaker 1: Denver's probably the most likely team to win the championship.
Speaker 1: So there's a real solid foundation regardless. But if you're
Speaker 1: gonna do something at this deadline, I think it would
Speaker 1: be a sarch centered deal without any first round draft
Speaker 1: compensation for a backup center if it's possible. But it's
Speaker 1: very possible that a guy like Mark Williams gets that
Speaker 1: you just get out bid for it, and maybe that's
Speaker 1: what happens. But if I was to look to make
Speaker 1: a deal for Denver this year, that'd be what I'd
Speaker 1: be looking at Golden State. Both Draymond Green and Steph
Speaker 1: Curry went off in recent interviews will interview postgame pressers
Speaker 1: about how they don't want to make some sort of
Speaker 1: hyper aggressive deal, that it would be irresponsible to do it,
Speaker 1: and they got kind of dramatic about it like that.
Speaker 1: I can't remember whether it was Steph or Draymond, but
Speaker 1: one of them talked about like how they'd be giving
Speaker 1: up draft control for seven years or some shit like that, Like, honestly,
Speaker 1: that's just a massive exaggeration. From what I understand, the
Speaker 1: Warriors control all of their first round draft picks except
Speaker 1: for the twenty thirty first rounder, and they have four
Speaker 1: second round picks available between now and the twenty thirty draft,
Speaker 1: So you have six first round picks in the next
Speaker 1: seven drafts and four second round picks in the next
Speaker 1: seven drafts from what I understand, if I'm reading the
Speaker 1: tea leaves properly, so you could include two first round
Speaker 1: picks in a trade and still have four first round
Speaker 1: picks between now and twenty thirty one, not even counting
Speaker 1: any first round picks you could get in return from
Speaker 1: sending out players after you decide to rebuild, and so
Speaker 1: When I hear things like, oh, it could mortgage the
Speaker 1: next seven years of the draft, It's like, yeah, there
Speaker 1: are occasionally star trades out there that asks for three
Speaker 1: first round picks and three picks and crazy stuff like that,
Speaker 1: But aside from like Kevin Durant, there's not really a
Speaker 1: deal like that out there. The Jimmy Butler's and the
Speaker 1: Zach Levines and the Cam Johnson's, like, that group isn't
Speaker 1: gonna pull an insane hall of like three picks three swaps.
Speaker 1: It'll mostly be about matching salary. Maybe Cam Johnson gets
Speaker 1: two first round picks Jimmy and Levine, who knows, Like
Speaker 1: the Levine's contract, it might be no draft compensation. With Jimmy's.
Speaker 1: It might be one maybe two. Like the I don't
Speaker 1: think it's gonna reach that level of expense. So frankly,
Speaker 1: the idea that the Warriors would be mortgaging their future
Speaker 1: with an aggressive trade at the deadline is just inaccurate.
Speaker 1: And like, if you did do it for a guy
Speaker 1: like KD, I think he immediately vaults you into contention,
Speaker 1: makes you bigger, it makes you better defensively, he fixes
Speaker 1: your offense. That's a no brainer. So let's just explore
Speaker 1: what Kevin Durantea would look like. The Sons are obviously
Speaker 1: still hemorrhaging the loss again to the Hawks last night,
Speaker 1: So let's say things get super nasty for those Sons
Speaker 1: and the blow things up at the deadline. What would
Speaker 1: Kevin Durant to the Warriors deal look like? It would
Speaker 1: look something like Kevin Durant Osoigadaro heading to the Warriors
Speaker 1: with Andrew Wiggins, Jonathan Kaminga, Buddy Healed, and Gary Payton
Speaker 1: the second heading back to the Suns and again sending
Speaker 1: out Kaminga and Wiggins I think actually would help lessen
Speaker 1: the draft compensation issues because of their value. Like Kaminga
Speaker 1: obviously is a prospect in this league with some upside,
Speaker 1: and I think Andrew Wiggins is a good player at
Speaker 1: his salary, Like I take him at that number in
Speaker 1: a heartbeat as the Lakers rooting for the Lakers right
Speaker 1: like especially moving forward, like the cap is going to
Speaker 1: keep increasing by about ten percent a year moving forward,
Speaker 1: Like Andrew Wiggins is deal. It's just a really good
Speaker 1: player at that number. So that might soften the soften
Speaker 1: the draft compensation element of it. But let's say you
Speaker 1: make that deal. So again, Katie and OsO Agudaro are
Speaker 1: coming back, Wiggins Kaminga healed, and Gary Payton all heading
Speaker 1: out to the Suns. You'd be left with Steph Curry,
Speaker 1: Dennis Schroeder, Kevin Durant, Raymond Green, Trace Jackson Davis as
Speaker 1: your starting lineup. There's a version of that where you
Speaker 1: move Trace Jackson out and you move in, take a
Speaker 1: guy like Moses Moody or a third guard and put
Speaker 1: him in the lineup, but I think they'd probably start
Speaker 1: big and off the bench, you'd still have Kyle Anderson,
Speaker 1: Kevon Looney, Moses Moody, Brandon Pajemski, Lindy Waters, Gie Santos
Speaker 1: and Ohso Guitar. You have two guys who can play
Speaker 1: backup Big minutes. You have two guys who can play
Speaker 1: backup Ford minutes, and Kyle Anderson and Moses Moody, And
Speaker 1: you've got guards like Brandon Pajemski and Lindy Waters. Gizanto's
Speaker 1: can play some backup Ford. He's been playing some decent
Speaker 1: minutes as of late. So like you're just you're still
Speaker 1: pretty deep. And then like you have Dennis that can
Speaker 1: help with backup ball handling. You can stagger Stephan KD,
Speaker 1: so your offense is more stable throughout the game. Kevin
Speaker 1: Durant is just an he still this year, some of
Speaker 1: the most impressive defensive sequences I've seen have come from
Speaker 1: Kevin Durant as he cleans up messes on that garbage
Speaker 1: Phoenix Suns. Team like KD would instantly anchor your defensive
Speaker 1: front line alongside Draymond and make you a real championship
Speaker 1: level defensive front line. And you still have plenty of
Speaker 1: perimeter defense. Dennis Schroeder can guard on the perimeter, Moses
Speaker 1: Moody can guard on the perimeter. Podit Pozemski's not bad
Speaker 1: out there. Draymond and KD can guard on the perimeter,
Speaker 1: plenty of length on the back line. I think that
Speaker 1: would immediately vault the Warriors into the same tier with
Speaker 1: Dallas and Denver with a real shot to win the title.
Speaker 1: And I don't want to count on Steph Curry and
Speaker 1: Kevin Durant in the big playoff series, would you. I
Speaker 1: think if you could do that deal, you do it
Speaker 1: ten times out of ten. Now it's a long shot.
Speaker 1: KAD might not even want it after some of the
Speaker 1: hang ups he has, after he left the Warriors. Matt
Speaker 1: Eshpia may have no desire to trade him at all whatsoever.
Speaker 1: It's a long shot, but if you can make that deal,
Speaker 1: I think you'd do it any day of the week.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about some smaller, more prudent moves, though. This
Speaker 1: idea of getting Cam Johnson without Jonathan Kamina has been
Speaker 1: something that I've been intrigued with a little bit. There's
Speaker 1: different variations of that. I would also try to get
Speaker 1: Dayon Sharp in the deal. You guys want a backup center.
Speaker 1: I think he's a decent option there that shouldn't cost much.
Speaker 1: So if you got Cameron Johnson and Dayron Sharp, you'd
Speaker 1: have to send out something like Kyle Anderson, Buddy Heeld,
Speaker 1: Kevon Looney, Kylie Anderson, Buddy Heeld, Gary Payton second, something
Speaker 1: along those lines. I still think i'd want Gary Payton
Speaker 1: in my playoff rotation, so I think I'd go with
Speaker 1: like a Kyle Anderson, Buddy Heeld, Kavan Looney type of deal.
Speaker 1: You may even decide that you prefer Looney over Dayn
Speaker 1: Sharp and want to make some sort of different version
Speaker 1: of that deal, But there are versions of it where
Speaker 1: you can get Cam Johnson without including Jonathan Kaminga. I
Speaker 1: like that deal. It unquestionably makes you better. Cam is
Speaker 1: a high level offensive player. He's shooting forty three percent
Speaker 1: on jump shots this year, both off the catch and
Speaker 1: off the dribble, shooting sixty nine percent at the rim,
Speaker 1: which is excellent for a perimeter player. He's ran one
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty eight pick and rolls, ISOs and post
Speaker 1: ups including passes, for one hundred and sixty six points.
Speaker 1: That's one point zero five points per possession. That's good
Speaker 1: self creation. And that's with him getting the other team's
Speaker 1: best defender. As of late on the perimeter, his life
Speaker 1: is going to be easier next to Steph. Not just
Speaker 1: being guarded by lesser defenders, but he'll be less emphasized
Speaker 1: in the scheme action with Steph. That could be effective.
Speaker 1: There's just so much good there offensively, and he's become
Speaker 1: a really useful defensive player point of in his career.
Speaker 1: Most importantly, he addresses a very specific area of need
Speaker 1: and shot creation for the Warriors. I also just think
Speaker 1: he's very clearly a positive asset. His two more deals
Speaker 1: years on his deal with like we talked about ten
Speaker 1: percent increases in the cap He's only twenty eight years old.
Speaker 1: You could make a deal for Cam Johnson and you
Speaker 1: lose in the first round this year, and then turn
Speaker 1: around and trade him this summer and immediately get whatever
Speaker 1: you sent out back for him. One compromise your future
Speaker 1: in any way, and it would bring back a backup center,
Speaker 1: and that Darren Sharpropson, like we talked about, Darren Sharp's
Speaker 1: been getting sixteen points and thirteen rebounds per thirty six
Speaker 1: minutes this season. The one thing that I think would
Speaker 1: be absolutely foolish is a really tiny deal on the margin,
Speaker 1: something like let's just get a backup center. First of all,
Speaker 1: everybody wants them, but nobody wants to pay for them,
Speaker 1: so it's gonna be weird negotiation anyway. By the way,
Speaker 1: no one really should, as I've been talking about throughout
Speaker 1: these other segments today, and frankly, I just think trading
Speaker 1: for only a backup center would be embarrassing. It's the
Speaker 1: most two timelines move I've ever seen. Let's pretend to
Speaker 1: support the present while not actually giving them any capability
Speaker 1: to raise their ceiling, while still not having any real
Speaker 1: obvious future to speak of. All of these other teams,
Speaker 1: they're confronting it in different functions or different fashions because
Speaker 1: of where they're at in their development. If you have
Speaker 1: like this clear like two three years from now, we
Speaker 1: have this on the horizon, it's more complicated, right, But like,
Speaker 1: like for instance, when I look at Denver, you can't
Speaker 1: trade something that compromises the development of Julian straw the
Speaker 1: or Peyton wantson when Jokich is his age and probably
Speaker 1: still going to be the best player in the world
Speaker 1: for two or three more years, in a top five
Speaker 1: player for even longer after that, maybe even the best
Speaker 1: player in the world for longer. So like there's a
Speaker 1: real pivot that they're going to have in one to
Speaker 1: two years that they have to be super cognizant of
Speaker 1: the Warriors. There's nothing on the horizon. John can being
Speaker 1: a not leading a team to success in the Western Conference,
Speaker 1: not anytime soon. He's five plus years out from being
Speaker 1: able to like anchor a dominant Western Conference team at best.
Speaker 1: There's no future. So like, with there being no future
Speaker 1: and you being so far away in the present pretending
Speaker 1: to support the present with some little move on the
Speaker 1: side for a backup center, I think he's insulting Steph Curry,
Speaker 1: and it's just the most classic representation of their strategy
Speaker 1: over the last couple of years that they've been straddling
Speaker 1: these two timelines. Last thing I'm gonna say about the Warriors,
Speaker 1: you will not have a player like Steph for a
Speaker 1: long time. If ever, again, it's rare. Even through tanking,
Speaker 1: you're not guaranteed to go get a number one pick.
Speaker 1: Who's gonna be the best player in the league. Who
Speaker 1: are the best players in the league right now? Nicole
Speaker 1: Joki's second round pick, Giannest wasn't a top ten pick.
Speaker 1: Shay wasn't a top ten pick. Even Luca was passed
Speaker 1: on by two teams who didn't think he was a superstar.
Speaker 1: Like it's there's a lot of luck involved in this.
Speaker 1: You happen to have Steph Curry. He's a unicorn in
Speaker 1: NBA history. When you're lucky enough to have one of
Speaker 1: those guys, you should make the most of it while
Speaker 1: you can. Any competent organization can pivot through taking on
Speaker 1: bad money for draft compensation, drafting well, developing well, establishing
Speaker 1: a quality basketball culture that will quickly pivot you into
Speaker 1: a positive future while you wait for maybe getting one
Speaker 1: of those best guys. Trading a couple of first round
Speaker 1: picks to support Steph Curry while he still has a
Speaker 1: fighting chance is not going to affect materially your future.
Speaker 1: That is the fact. And so even beyond anything having
Speaker 1: to do with my feelings as a basketball fan wanting
Speaker 1: to watch Steph play in high leveraged basketball games, I
Speaker 1: would just argue that the discussion over like what you're
Speaker 1: giving up versus what you're getting in return, is so
Speaker 1: heavily focused in an inaccurate way on what you're giving up.
Speaker 1: It doesn't make any sense to me. We haven't even
Speaker 1: had like an honest conversation about what these price tags
Speaker 1: look like relevant to what the Warrior's future would look
Speaker 1: like in their asset trove, not to mention like anytime
Speaker 1: you decide to blow it up, it's like any quality
Speaker 1: role player you have can be moved for draft compensation
Speaker 1: to refill the troph So I don't think they should
Speaker 1: make some small move on the margins. I think they
Speaker 1: should go for the home run swing, because the home
Speaker 1: run swing is not three picks and four swaps. It's
Speaker 1: probably two picks, maybe one pick and a couple second
Speaker 1: round picks for a guy like Cam Johnson, and that
Speaker 1: guy can easily be turned around for the same return
Speaker 1: down the line. All right, guys, it's all I have
Speaker 1: for today is always sincerely appreciate you guys for supporting
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Speaker 1: on Saturday. But we'll have that coming later this week
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