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Speaker 1: Is the Dallascowboys dot Com Draft Show, your war room

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Speaker 1: for insider news and draft analysis from deep within the

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Speaker 1: confines of Cowboys headquarters at the Star Infrasco.

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Speaker 2: Now your hosts Botch Lombardy, Nick Harris, Bobby Belt, Tommy Yarish,

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Speaker 2: and Kyle Yeomans.

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Speaker 3: Today is Tuesday, March third, twenty twenty six, and we

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Speaker 3: are fifty one days away from the NFL Draft in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 3: Welcome into the Draft Show presented by Milu Light, the

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Speaker 3: only beer of the Dallas Cowboys. Yes, we are all

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Speaker 3: back in the SWBC studios with Fach Lombardi, Nick Harris,

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Speaker 3: Tommy Rrish, Bobby Belt, Chris Beam. In the back, I'm

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Speaker 3: Kyle Yellman's. Everybody is back in town, whether it be

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Speaker 3: from the Super Bowl, the Senior Bowl, the Combine. Now

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Speaker 3: it's the final push to the NFL Draft. Gentlemen, it's

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Speaker 3: good to be back in studio.

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Speaker 4: How's it going, Nick, It's going fantastic. Man, what a

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Speaker 4: week last week? Right, Combine is the busiest week on

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Speaker 4: the NFL calendar. Last year was no different and it

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Speaker 4: was a lot of fun. I'm excited to dive into

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Speaker 4: what we what we got out there.

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Speaker 3: I thought Tommy did a great job on Dallas Cowboys

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Speaker 3: dot com. He wrote a wrap up article where it's

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Speaker 3: all the bullet points of like the storylines from the

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Speaker 3: Cowboys and the storylines from the draft and things of

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Speaker 3: the sort that are all easily digestible. So if you

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Speaker 3: missed anything last week, one, go listen to the three

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Speaker 3: shows that we recorded on radio roll please. But then two,

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Speaker 3: go ahead and check that out too, because it's a

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Speaker 3: good roadmap. But there's a lot of interesting tidbits and

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Speaker 3: information that worked out there from the combine last week.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well, first of all, thank you. Second of all,

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Speaker 5: read all of our work here. Nick Nick did a

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Speaker 5: good job too out there, Bobby Nick, watch fotch and

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Speaker 5: I guess Kyle is there too, Watch but no.

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Speaker 6: Watch watch there you go.

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Speaker 5: No, there was, you know, especially all the roster right

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Speaker 5: now right like franchise tagging George Pickens, which we knew

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Speaker 5: was going to happen. It was only a matter of time.

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Speaker 5: You think about the moves that players have made. Marris Leeve,

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Speaker 5: I was going outside linebacker. Donovan Azaraku is an outside

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Speaker 5: linebacker now, so that kind of gives you an idea

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Speaker 5: of what they're thinking about there, and then just hearing about,

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Speaker 5: you know, some of the young players that this team

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Speaker 5: is really high on, like as a rock gup Savone

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Speaker 5: Revel's name came up a lot, Jayden blues name came

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Speaker 5: up a lot while we were out there, So kind

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Speaker 5: of gives you an idea of how this team is

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Speaker 5: looking forward with some of these younger players. And also

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Speaker 5: the you know, the amount of defensive formal meetings that

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Speaker 5: we saw there and that.

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Speaker 6: Prospects were telling us they had with the Cowboys.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, seven prospects, the.

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Speaker 6: Eight seven formal meetings that definitely all happened. So frustrated, Yeah,

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Speaker 6: poor poor kids.

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Speaker 4: Can I give a little bit of a glimpse behind

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Speaker 4: the scenes there, Yeah, go ahead, And so for like

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Speaker 4: the first two days, we are working our butts off

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Speaker 4: trying to figure out who these formal meetings are. And

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Speaker 4: basically the situation is they rotate in by position groups.

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Speaker 4: So like I guess Wednesday was d LINE or Thursday

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Speaker 4: was DBS, right, Yeah, and then they stagger them every

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Speaker 4: twenty minutes, and so you have eight going at a

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Speaker 4: and I typically last about four hours, so myself, Tommy,

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Speaker 4: a few others.

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Speaker 8: Nicole Hudgson was in that group.

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Speaker 4: There are a lot of people in that group that

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Speaker 4: we basically split podiums up and we're trying to just

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Speaker 4: ask everybody, Hey, do you have a form meeting with

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Speaker 8: Formal meeting with cowboys?

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Speaker 4: We're like, man, the first day were like, man, we

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Speaker 4: So yeah, take that formal meeting list of a grain

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Speaker 4: of salt. But I think there were some ones that

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Speaker 6: Go ahead, you got it.

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Speaker 7: It happens every year.

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Speaker 9: It happens every year.

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Speaker 5: It's that you know, some of these players, they don't

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Speaker 5: know the difference between an informal or formal meeting, or

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Speaker 5: there's so much gray area where it's like if you

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Speaker 5: talk to NFC scout for with the Seahawks, for example,

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Speaker 5: for ten minutes in an elevator, do you consider that

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Speaker 6: And you know they're asking all.

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Speaker 8: Us stuck in the elevator.

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Speaker 6: But that's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: From a player's standpoint, right, how many of them? How

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Speaker 5: many of them were?

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Speaker 6: Okay?

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Speaker 7: Thanks guy?

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Speaker 9: Thanks guy.

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Speaker 7: It was a big building.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, it was a big building, a lot of stories.

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Speaker 6: Four hundred and seventy six floors.

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Speaker 5: But no, if you don't know the correct definitions of

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Speaker 5: ins and outs, and from an agent standpoint too, if

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Speaker 5: you're telling these players like, hey, if you say you

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Speaker 5: have a fe meeting with this team, it doesn't hurt

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Speaker 9: I don't think this is that I had this. This

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Speaker 9: think typically been players not understanding necessarily what the definition

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Speaker 9: of it is. It's it's such a specific thing. A

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Speaker 9: lot of guys can go like, yeah, I talked to

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Speaker 9: formal right, Like a lot of them just didn't know.

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Speaker 9: Somebody on the beat had suggested that was like what

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Speaker 9: if agents are just coaching players? And I went that

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Speaker 9: or I heard that wouldn't master around, And I heard like, yeah,

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Speaker 9: most agents are telling their place if you get asked,

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Speaker 9: did you have a formalistn yep, because the team's generally

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Speaker 9: not going to circle back around and correct you if

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Speaker 9: you're wrong, and it can only be good for you that.

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Speaker 9: Look at all this buzz you're generating.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And he just asked that on the Draft Show.

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Speaker 3: It was our second episode of the Draft Show last

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Speaker 3: week when we kind of started seeing it, and that

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Speaker 3: was the question, was is it an influence from your representation? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: because it's not necessarily a negative, right.

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Speaker 9: No, there's no negative to saying you're meeting with every

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Speaker 9: team in the NFL formally. That sounds really good for you.

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Speaker 9: And so yeah, isn't it bad to lie?

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Speaker 7: Though?

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Speaker 10: Yeah?

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Speaker 9: I mean not always. You know, then you just say

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Speaker 9: you just say that, Yeah, you didn't understand the definition

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Speaker 9: of it, So I thought, it's plausible deniability. It's technicalities, you.

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Speaker 7: Know, yeah, you know.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So if with that being said, does the list

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Speaker 3: completely get thrown out the window or is this something

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Speaker 4: That If you want to ask me about names individually,

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Speaker 4: I have a pretty good grasp one who actually was

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Speaker 4: and who wasn't. At this point Caleb Downs was yes,

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Speaker 4: but there is not a next year. I will not

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Speaker 4: be doing the same thing. You're not going to the podium,

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Speaker 4: not doing the podium. I'm gonna chase it.

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Speaker 9: A different way. And so the Archer way.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the archery or I show up at ten and

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Speaker 4: what's all respect to Archer, that's how he could do it.

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Speaker 3: Can I have the can you just give me the list, like,

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Speaker 3: let's just like save some time here. But now forty

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Speaker 3: five meetings is what they're allowed to have, and then

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Speaker 3: a lot of informal meetings watch based on your digestion

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Speaker 3: of the of the combat. Yeah, but you you were

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Speaker 3: at it, and you were you were a spirit.

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Speaker 9: You know.

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Speaker 10: I lean on y'all. Y'all my guys. I love y'all.

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Speaker 10: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 11: So I wasn't ready to take it seriously until Nick

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Speaker 11: Hare says, hey, I saw such and such walk around

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Speaker 11: the Star, or they was looking at the grays, or

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Speaker 11: somebody's having food over in that section. When we when

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Speaker 11: we hear people doing that, I go, oh, well, they're

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Speaker 11: having lunch at the Star, Like that's more important to

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Speaker 11: me right, you know, as opposed to I bumped into

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Speaker 3: But in terms of the Combine itself, what were some

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Speaker 3: of the takeaways that you had from Combine week and

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Speaker 3: some of the rumors that you had maybe heard or

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Speaker 10: I'll tell you this, Kyle Jomes.

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Speaker 11: I never really cared about Combine in that way because

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Speaker 11: I'm not media dude like y'all. So I thought Combine

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Speaker 11: was just we gonna show up and watch people run.

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Speaker 11: The good mess happened at the Combine, like with the

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Speaker 11: bumping into people and talking to you know, talking into

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Speaker 11: I would have loved to have bumped into somebody and

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Speaker 11: loved to have been part of that because I like information,

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Speaker 11: good mess and just learning stuff. I don't necessarily care

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Speaker 11: film anyway, you know what I'm saying. So even if

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Speaker 11: I see Sonny Styles run around real fast, I knew

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Speaker 11: Sonny Styles was big and he run around real fast.

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Speaker 11: I din't think it was gonna jump the high but

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Speaker 10: Right. But if I'd about to say a bad.

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Speaker 11: Joke, but look if but when the mess happens and

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Speaker 11: Bobby go, hey Man, you know, I just bumped into

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Speaker 11: Christian Park and he said, that's what I found valuable.

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Speaker 10: So I want to go to Combine mixt time.

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Speaker 9: You you should go to Comma because it is the

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Speaker 9: It's such a it is the greatest hub of information

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Speaker 9: that exists in the NFL offseason, not just for draft

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Speaker 9: like that's the for people who are explicitly draft focused,

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Speaker 9: it's great. Then there's the I heard Hellman talking about

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Speaker 9: this a little bit with Dane. Like Dane is he's

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Speaker 9: focused on the draft, Hellman focuses on everything. So Hellman's

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Speaker 9: week is split up much differently in terms of what

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Speaker 9: he's trying to run down and run around and who's trying.

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Speaker 10: To talk to.

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Speaker 9: Dane is still taking up, like focusing on a lot

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Speaker 9: of this, You really run into a lot of that

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Speaker 9: while you're out there just trying to manage your time

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Speaker 9: of how to to go around, how to find certain

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Speaker 9: things and The great thing about Indie is that you

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Speaker 9: will just you don't even have to ask. Sometimes you're

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Speaker 9: just standing somewhere when bigger information's like, oh it's right there,

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Speaker 9: that's significant. Okay, it's just right here while you're sitting

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Speaker 9: at dinner and it happens to be the next table over,

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Speaker 9: and so it's it's a great experience. You'd love it.

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Speaker 5: It's like spring break for the NFL, spring break for

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Speaker 5: coaches executives.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, scout's gone.

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Speaker 10: Well yeah, see, I didn't want to say it because

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Speaker 9: But no, just I mean, it's a wild week. There's

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Speaker 9: a lot of people talking, there's a lot of things

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Speaker 3: Combine standouts and storylines. I put it in the in

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Speaker 11: You can't hate when I have questions, but you can

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Speaker 10: That's crazy.

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Speaker 11: I'll say it is, man, we're all cowboy people, and

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Speaker 11: and being like, hey man, I just don't feel right

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Speaker 11: I feel like Jerma McCoy would be there, and hey man,

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Speaker 10: You know.

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Speaker 11: It may be a gamble, but I feel good about

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Speaker 11: On my tape, he's five on my board, just all

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Speaker 11: At twelfth overall, he say, I don't feel good after

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Speaker 8: You know what I'm saying, He tourt in January twenty

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it don't don't expect the Cowboys to swing on

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Speaker 8: A couple of guys that go ahead.

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Speaker 10: So is little hurt cool but just not rich shirt

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Speaker 8: I guess that's where the nuance draft room.

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Speaker 4: But if you look last year, whenever you know Ryan

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Speaker 9: Just bombing them.

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Speaker 11: Wire receiver has always been weird people, and that's after

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Speaker 11: all y'all, but I'm locked in. Yeah, Sonny's like locked in.

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Speaker 11: But you know what I'm saying, You just so cool

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Speaker 10: So da da da.

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Speaker 11: You had an interview, you know what I'm saying, whether

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Speaker 10: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 11: And it could be the pickings thing, right, Like, can

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Speaker 11: I really count on you to be like a locked

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Speaker 11: case is with Lemon. I wasn't in the room, but

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Speaker 11: I do think in that setting, I want players. I

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Speaker 11: would want players to lock in and take this thing seriously.

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Speaker 9: It's it's probably not fair. I'm not saying it's fair. Yeah,

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Speaker 9: well know, No, I'm saying I've learned enough over being

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Speaker 9: around covering the draft almost like ten years now. If

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Speaker 9: scouts or college coaches describe you as a weird dude, yeah,

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Speaker 9: they never mean that in a good way. Never. There's

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Speaker 9: never anything good about that. So when they're like he's weird,

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Speaker 9: like they mean that of like I don't know that

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Speaker 9: he fits, but like that might be odd. So when

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Speaker 9: you start hearing people in that circle say weird again,

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Speaker 9: fair or not. I'm not calling MacKaye Lemon weird, but

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Speaker 9: I'm saying if there are people in the league who

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Speaker 9: that's how they feel about him, that's that's something that

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Speaker 9: will undoubtedly mess with your stock a little bit because

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Speaker 9: you're always looking at fit and different things like that.

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Speaker 9: Well McLeay told us last week. We're like, what's the

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Speaker 9: I ask him, what's the biggest thing we get wrong?

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Speaker 9: And he's like, true fit. He's like whether like in

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Speaker 9: terms of just a the true way that a player

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Speaker 9: fits into what you're trying to do, and weird can

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Speaker 9: throw it off. Weird isn't always good. But I will

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Speaker 9: say you're you're lucky that the Kansas City Chiefs picked

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Speaker 9: three spots ahead of you, because that seems like one

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Speaker 9: organization that if they just think you're talented enough to like, yeah,

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Speaker 9: sure whatever, you can be a little weird, we'll throw

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Speaker 9: him in here.

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Speaker 3: So it's a couple of those guys on the roster already.

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Speaker 10: Yeah yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 11: To Nick's point, though, the weirdness of the interview, in

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Speaker 11: my mind, isn't as bad as you not paying attention

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Speaker 11: to the drid A's in front of you, Like that's

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Speaker 11: the worst, right, Or he.

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Speaker 9: Just has trouble with fractions, like it may just be

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Speaker 9: like he doesn't understand one fourth instead of three to

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Speaker 9: be part.

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Speaker 3: Of understood it.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, my education and let.

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Speaker 9: Like, oh, you wanted me to run three quarters a week,

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Speaker 9: not take three quarters off like that could have been

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Speaker 9: what he thought it was. But no, I think that

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Speaker 9: there's also it's it's double sided. There's another side that

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Speaker 9: we'll look at it and go yeah, but like he's

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Speaker 9: he's kind of weird this way and is he focusing

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Speaker 9: all the way and he was still that good? Like

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Speaker 9: he's still a bolitan, a cough guy. Well, I can,

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Speaker 9: it's it's the it's the dating fallacy. I can fix him.

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Speaker 3: I can.

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Speaker 9: I can fix this guy and it'll be all right.

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Speaker 9: There's enough redeeming traits. I can fix this. You just

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Speaker 9: need somebody to fall in love like that.

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Speaker 5: So here's my investigative journalism work of the week. Mikayle

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Speaker 5: Lemon is a communication major at USC Folks. As a

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Speaker 5: fellow communication major, I also am not good at math,

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Speaker 5: so Makai, I can sympathize with you on that.

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Speaker 6: But I think this is one of.

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Speaker 5: Those cases where I'm a watch that the not listening

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Speaker 5: to the If you're not paying attention in that setting,

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Speaker 5: that's obviously a turn off. And I think this is

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Speaker 5: an important one where if your scouts and if your

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Speaker 5: personnel departments, you're calling Lincoln Riley, you're calling Dennis Simmons

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Speaker 5: the wide receivers coach at USC and you're saying, Hey,

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Speaker 5: what's this guy like in the locker room?

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Speaker 6: What what are we really getting here?

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Speaker 5: And that's going to be the most important part of

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Speaker 5: the process, because I mean, he wanted the blittinic golf

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Speaker 5: like that you see on film, that the talent's there,

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Speaker 5: that he can be a good player in the slot.

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Speaker 5: But like Will was talking about with you, guys, if

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Speaker 5: it's not a fit, then that could.

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Speaker 6: Cause a bunch of trouble.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, does it bother you just to turn your own

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Speaker 3: question on yourself.

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Speaker 4: The the clip of him directly being told and him

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Speaker 4: not even staring at the coach and then getting the

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Speaker 4: drill rest when everyone else got it right, that was.

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Speaker 9: The worst part. Yeah, I'm with Fudge there.

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Speaker 10: Yeah. Plus, I don't I don't.

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Speaker 11: I don't think he's that good to be a loof

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Speaker 11: like that.

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Speaker 10: No, you know what I'm saying, Like, if.

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Speaker 3: He's not the number one prospect by far headed shoulders, right.

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Speaker 11: If you was a guy, you got a little more

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Speaker 11: room to be a loof. And look, Limons could be

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Speaker 11: still be a first round pick somewhere, first drafted in

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Speaker 11: the first round somewhere, But I don't think he's like

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Speaker 11: a guy like that to where teams go, hey man,

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Speaker 11: he's weird.

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Speaker 10: We can't pass on this guy.

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Speaker 4: This isn't Caleb Williams paints his nails. This is yeah,

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Speaker 4: this is this is I think it's something actually.

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Speaker 9: No, but and again I also think it's different. But

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Speaker 9: I mean George pickinsh's here now. George Pickens went where

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Speaker 9: he did because people felt like he's a little different,

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Speaker 9: like and and that's the thing is that it's again

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Speaker 9: it's not fair because weird doesn't always mean bad. Those

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Speaker 9: weird there's like, I don't know that it jibes, don't

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Speaker 9: know that it fits, don't know that that's something that's

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Speaker 9: going to click into place with us.

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Speaker 10: And so.

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Speaker 9: Look, I mean guys have had really bad interview processes,

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Speaker 9: have have gotten dinged with this before and been just fine.

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Speaker 9: Pickens got dinged with it. Chauncey Gardner Johnson years ago,

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Speaker 9: was one of the worst interviews you'll ever hear teams

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Speaker 9: talk about ended up being just fine at the NFL level,

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Speaker 9: and so it's it's not a death sentence, but I

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Speaker 9: think it definitely caused some teams to go all right,

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Speaker 9: slow down.

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Speaker 8: Lash Awk question after the break, damn in.

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Speaker 9: The break and we can prepare so yeah, maybe maybe

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Speaker 9: later in.

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Speaker 10: The show you can ask him to happen.

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Speaker 9: So we'll get Mike, We'll get it in wed Kyle there, it.

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Speaker 3: Is all right. When we come back, it's Twitter on

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Speaker 3: the twenty maybe eighty nine, including Vacha's question. It's got

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Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, he was excited.

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Speaker 7: He's been a week. That was a Ruben Bank get off.

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Speaker 3: I mean that was just before the snap even happened.

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Speaker 7: He was already in the backfield.

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Speaker 10: Can I say something about Uben Bank?

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Speaker 3: You just asked the Twitter on the twenty question.

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Speaker 11: His appearance is like the opposite of what we talking about. Limit,

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Speaker 11: you know what I'm saying, Like he looks like a

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Speaker 11: no nonsense bro. I didn't even I ain't dressed up

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Speaker 11: for this line. I didn't put no cologne on. I

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Speaker 11: ain't take a shot. I'm here to do football stuff.

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Speaker 9: Gotta be with those arms.

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Speaker 11: I like, I love I love those kind of guys.

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Speaker 11: I just want to say it about Ruben Bank and

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Speaker 11: hopefully he'll fall to twel because teams suck a drafting.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, that would be nice. Please all right?

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Speaker 3: Vax Lombardi on Twitter wants to know he had to

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Speaker 3: just go right back to it. I'm sorry you're not

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Speaker 3: gonna say, like, what's up? Watch?

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Speaker 10: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: We always talk about blinking lights that will make you

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Speaker 3: take an offensive player at twelve overall? Are there any

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Speaker 3: offensive blinking lights? At one fourteen.

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Speaker 4: Possibly that one's a little bit more fluid, right because

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Speaker 4: who there's a lot of names that are more in

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Speaker 4: the mix, and round two, round three then would be

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Speaker 4: in like the top eleven, you know. So I mean

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Speaker 4: you could look at uh, you could look at like

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Speaker 4: Jadarian Price, like if he somehow slips out a day two.

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Speaker 11: But people ask me this all right, like like is

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Speaker 11: there a tight end or running back or like a receiver.

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Speaker 9: All right, if you want to go right tackle impressive

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Speaker 9: player had a good week, but also like maybe has

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Speaker 9: some skeletons in the closet, is also undersized, different things

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Speaker 9: like that, Like somebody who like who feasibly could and

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Speaker 9: I don't think he will, but who feasibly could get

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Speaker 9: to the fourth round because of whatever thing is that,

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Speaker 9: Then I'd be like, yeah, I'll take Zachary Branch. I

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Speaker 9: don't think Zachary Branch is getting to the fourth round,

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Speaker 9: but there's enough in his background. They're like, Okay, maybe

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Speaker 9: there's a bunch of other receivers in this draft. It's

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Speaker 9: such a top heavy draft with receivers. Maybe there are

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Speaker 9: just enough guys that he kind of slips through the cracks.

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Speaker 9: If teams are like we're gonna break the tie with

657
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 9: we don't like this or we don't like that, then yeah,

658
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 9: like if that happens, which I don't think, well, I

659
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 9: think Zacharie Branch goes in the second round, but if

660
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:56,840
Speaker 9: for some reason he were there at one fourteen, yeah,

661
00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:00,640
Speaker 9: I you know, needs be damned. I'm picking zach Ry Branch.

662
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 9: I love zach Ry Branch absolutely.

663
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:03,600
Speaker 10: Yeah.

664
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,480
Speaker 3: Second question, thank you Bouch for your phenomenal question.

665
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:07,880
Speaker 7: Thanks as always.

666
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:11,919
Speaker 3: Dustin wants to know, with the additional context and insight

667
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 3: from the combine and knowing that we need immediate day

668
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 3: one starters, who does that remove from the Cowboys board

669
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,639
Speaker 3: at twelve and twenty or is anybody moving up the

670
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 3: board for a possibility there anybody that sticks out as

671
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 3: somebody completely off the board day one starter?

672
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,399
Speaker 5: I think off the board completely. I think is Jermald

673
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,159
Speaker 5: mccaffe at least it in the first round. Yeah, in

674
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 5: the first round, I think absolutely, with Jerry is saying

675
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,640
Speaker 5: that they need contributors now moving up.

676
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 9: So this is just basically who are the most pro

677
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 9: ready players?

678
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 6: Yeah?

679
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 15: Yeah, immediate startouns yes, okay, yeah, pro ready, plug and

680
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 15: play I mean or non injured if if Rubin Bain

681
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 15: finds a way to fall there, I think he would

682
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 15: be one montsour de Laine I think would be plug

683
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 15: and play immediately, maybe back at twenty.

684
00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 6: I think CJ.

685
00:28:58,160 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 5: Allen is a guy that you could easily put in

686
00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:01,240
Speaker 5: there and have him play early.

687
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 6: That would be a theenem in. I mean, we can't

688
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 6: I can't say enough about him.

689
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 7: Mm hmm.

690
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:09,719
Speaker 9: Yeah. I mean the guy that really pops of just

691
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 9: like the idea of just not ready to go potentially

692
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 9: would be Jermad McCoy. If you're talking about outside of

693
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 9: that where you're like gonna need some season and gonna

694
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 9: need some time. Brandon sees likes is not the Colton

695
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 9: Hood coland I think could be a little more ready

696
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 9: to contribute than Sesay. Yeah, I agree, just because the

697
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 9: run game stuff I think is he can be valuable

698
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 9: in the box a little bit. But yeah, I don't

699
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 9: think there's a whole lot of guys where it's like

700
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 9: just they need a little bit of seasoning. I guess

701
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 9: if you wanted to say, which I don't think he's

702
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 9: in play at twenty anyway. But I mean, if you're

703
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 9: talking about someone who's like you need to figure them

704
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 9: out a little bit like Keante. Scott's another one who

705
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 9: teams are probably trying to figure out. You may not

706
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 9: have a great plan right away for him, but otherwise no,

707
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 9: I mean, I think that most of this draft, the

708
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 9: big strength of this draft is not like super top

709
00:29:58,120 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 9: and talent, It's that it feels like a lot of

710
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 9: these guys guys or guys who are ready to play

711
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 9: football right now.

712
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:04,480
Speaker 4: I can't Tey Scott's better be ready to play FOOTBA

713
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 4: right now. He's gonna be twenty.

714
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 9: Five on he's ready to I think he's ready to play.

715
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 9: I don't know if teams have figured out what they

716
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 9: want to how they want to use him, yet it's.

717
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 7: A good point.

718
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 3: Any any stock in that same question, same mindset into

719
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 3: the rumor around Caleb Downs that's out there right now.

720
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, the rumor is that he has a partially torn

721
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 4: meniscus and a potentially degenerative acl which, as I said

722
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 4: in our group chat last night, fellows, he could have

723
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 4: an amputated left ankle.

724
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 8: I'm still taking twelve.

725
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 7: So it doesn't you're not taking any stock into it.

726
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 9: I mean, you take stock into it and just assess

727
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 9: risk management with where your team's at what.

728
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 3: Does that mean that let's talk about that for a

729
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 3: little bit degenerative a cl.

730
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 9: Bobby would have a bet degenerative al.

731
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 7: I like.

732
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 9: So it's split on how people have had it described

733
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 9: for but one guy who previously had it described this

734
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 9: way was Todd Gurley and then Todd Gurley's out of

735
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 9: the NFL after five years. But it's it's it's this

736
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 9: is similar to Broadus has told the story before that

737
00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 9: when they were assessing picking Jeremiah Trap out of college,

738
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 9: that he had a degenerative knee condition that they were

739
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 9: a little concerned about, and he had asked the doctors like,

740
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 9: can we can we take him? And so the doctor

741
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 9: told him was like, Brian, he may play ten games

742
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 9: or ten years, I don't know. He's like, it could

743
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 9: go really quickly. He could hang around to be fine.

744
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 9: And Jeremi Trotter did hang around the NFL for a

745
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 9: long time and had a successful career. I think the

746
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 9: fact that somebody may have dgginged him this way, which

747
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 9: the way it's reported is potentially degenerative asal It's not

748
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 9: even not even that whoever, whatever doctor would have looked

749
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 9: at this didn't even say with certainty there's a degenerative

750
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 9: ACL there. It's like there could be an issue there.

751
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 9: I know that if you look at thirty two doctors

752
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 9: around the NFL, they're going to look at it all differently.

753
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 9: So so their team doctors will look at differently. It's

754
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 9: going to come down to do you trust your team

755
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 9: doctor's evaluation of it? Yeah, And so it was like like,

756
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 9: I mean, just what do you trust on your medical

757
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 9: checks with your team? And if you feel comfortable with it,

758
00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 9: then then you're going to rock I after Nick had

759
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 9: mentioned this, and it kind of like, you know, started

760
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 9: chugging along a little bit, just poking around and asking

761
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 9: some some people I don't I didn't get since that

762
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 9: a lot of teams have red flags up about it.

763
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 7: That's good.

764
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 9: Like, from from what I can tell, I think it's

765
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 9: definitely on the radar for some people specifically, though I

766
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 9: think it's more the meniscous part of it of just like, hey,

767
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 9: that maybe something that needs to be managed or addressed.

768
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 9: But I think it's it's a little bit more up

769
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 9: to interpretation and opinion on the degenerative state of the ACL.

770
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 4: Let me ask you, if you're you're in the Cowboys

771
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 4: War room, and it has been determined that, hey, you

772
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 4: can draft Caleb Downs at twelve, but this tormentiscus situation,

773
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 4: it's probably gonna end up be in a red shirt situation.

774
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 4: You're taking them. Wow, y'all are taking too long? The

775
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 4: answers yes, the answers yes for me, yell wore take

776
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 4: it already.

777
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 10: I want to tell you why. I would like to

778
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 10: give you why.

779
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 9: If he falls to twelve at that point, I can

780
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 9: probably trade down and take him, and so I would

781
00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 9: move and try to pick up extra cap. I'm what

782
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 9: this team's trying to do right now. There's a little

783
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 9: bit of a misnomer I think for some people where

784
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 9: they say, like is Dallas win now, they're like, well,

785
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 9: it's seven nine and one. You can't call him when no, No, okay, fine,

786
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 9: they weren't good enough to lesson, but they are rapidly

787
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 9: trying to open a window to be win ap. Yeah,

788
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 9: that's what they're trying to do, and that's the things that.

789
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 8: We're going to really find out next week.

790
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 9: So if that's if I'm if I'm being told as

791
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 9: part of like roster wilding, Hey, this is what we're

792
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 9: trying to do. We're trying to open up this three

793
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 9: year window where Dak is like at his peak before

794
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 9: we reach decline because of age. Then I'd say, right,

795
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 9: if that's the the end goal, No.

796
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 7: I think I'm right there with you.

797
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 9: I think that I think at that point I'd rather

798
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 9: take somebody twelve and try to get fenam innut the twelve.

799
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 3: It goes against everything you've you've talked about, everything you've

800
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 3: you've contemplated over the last couple of years.

801
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 7: I get it.

802
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 3: He's the best non quarterback, even the best, I would

803
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 3: venture to say, most talented, safest player in the draft

804
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty six.

805
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 9: Yeah, if I'm building for a decade, yeah.

806
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 3: Safe, Yeah, you know that's that's where. Yeah, if your

807
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 3: window was going to be twenty seven, twenty eight, twenty nine,

808
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 3: then maybe you can do that and you're you're gonna

809
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 3: take it a roll with it.

810
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 9: But your window, I'm trying to but I'm trying to.

811
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 3: Earn us of it. But you're trying to open the

812
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:09,920
Speaker 3: window this Shay.

813
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 9: I'm trying to open a window that in theory about

814
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 9: three years should expire before I'm even making the decision

815
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 9: on his fifth year option.

816
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 7: Yeah.

817
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:23,399
Speaker 9: So like it's it's so much now that I'm like, yeah,

818
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 9: he's great, and if we're building for ten years, I'm

819
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:29,320
Speaker 9: all over it. But it's the same thing that would

820
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:32,400
Speaker 9: like remove McCoy from it. It's like I'm out on

821
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 9: this because I need I need guys now. So I

822
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:35,479
Speaker 9: turned to theenem in at that point.

823
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 11: So to that point, right, wouldn't your twenty twenty seven

824
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 11: and twenty eight rosters be also like factored into that

825
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:44,719
Speaker 11: or whatever? Like yeah, Like we're not just like the

826
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 11: cob was not trying to win a Super Bowl in

827
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 11: twenty six, like right now, they're not trying to do it, right.

828
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:51,280
Speaker 9: They're always trying to They're always trying.

829
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 11: To win a Super Bowl, right, But they're looking at

830
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 11: the next three years, like you said, right, so if

831
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 11: you could say, hey man, downs Man, he may not

832
00:34:57,640 --> 00:34:59,879
Speaker 11: be here now, but in twenty seven and twenty eight

833
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 11: will be.

834
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 9: So I'm opening up my light. Like if you look

835
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 9: at the way they're they're already making some financial decisions.

836
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:08,879
Speaker 9: I think when you talk about the three years, it's

837
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 9: more how you're trying to control your budget and your

838
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 9: cap You're trying to create a cap a situation where

839
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:17,359
Speaker 9: you may in three years potentially be looking at CAP.

840
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 9: Situations are not great. We're gonna start making some decisions

841
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:21,919
Speaker 9: because we opened up this window and it didn't work out,

842
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 9: and so I think it's less about the talent and

843
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 9: huh or did or did? Yeah, and it could work out.

844
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 9: But if you're talking about now, it's a two year

845
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 9: window you get you don't get three. Yeah, because he

846
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:34,279
Speaker 9: that begest piece of CAP.

847
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 4: I would take two years of Caleb Downs over three

848
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 4: years of anyone else. That's the question we're asking at

849
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 4: the end of the day. I'm taking two years of

850
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:43,360
Speaker 4: Caleb Downs over right.

851
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:46,879
Speaker 9: What if I tell you Bain and Yep, you'll take

852
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:48,360
Speaker 9: You'll take downs over Bane and Penemon.

853
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 4: I would take two years of Downs over three years

854
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,760
Speaker 4: of Bane or three years of Theenemon.

855
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 3: But that would ald No, I mean that come twenty six.

856
00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:58,879
Speaker 3: That would call twenty twenty six a wash.

857
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:00,319
Speaker 10: B It's he's a washing.

858
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:01,239
Speaker 9: That's how to watch it all.

859
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 4: You go spending free agency and get your guy.

860
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 3: But you're wanting to build your defense around the guy

861
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 3: that's gonna.

862
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:10,720
Speaker 4: Read you still have another first round pick at twenty

863
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 4: I get it, but get you go, get you go,

864
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:17,360
Speaker 4: get downs and Phenemn because well.

865
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 3: We can talk about it and then they're the pair

866
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 3: for the future.

867
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:23,280
Speaker 9: Exactly, Like I mean I talk that they're they're going

868
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 9: to the benefit of having free agency before is you

869
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 9: can kind of get a handle on what are what

870
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:32,280
Speaker 9: are we looking at here? Like what is is left?

871
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 9: And and what do we need to do to structure things?

872
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:39,240
Speaker 9: But I mean he is Downs is the perfect player

873
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:43,799
Speaker 9: for what I think we believe Christian Parker wants to do. Absolutely,

874
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:48,320
Speaker 9: It's just I don't know that anybody feels like they've

875
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 9: got time to cut this window by a third.

876
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 10: What what makes me sid me?

877
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:56,799
Speaker 11: But like not all the way is like I'm thinking

878
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 11: about this draft in particular, if it's Bank, I'm taking

879
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:01,759
Speaker 11: Bank over Downs. If Downs is hurt, I'm taking Bang

880
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:04,840
Speaker 11: over Downs. But thinking about this draft, It'll make me

881
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:07,440
Speaker 11: sick if I go, all right, is it Downs or

882
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:10,799
Speaker 11: like Coldenhood is it Downs? Or like cash is Howe

883
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:12,799
Speaker 11: or something like that? And I would make myself sick

884
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 11: if I say I'll take these dudes over Downs minus

885
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 11: one year. You know what what I'm saying, If like

886
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:21,240
Speaker 11: this ain't some year where if you don't get Michael,

887
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,400
Speaker 11: you get Rashaun Slater. You know what I'm saying, Like,

888
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 11: once you on the board at twelve, Downs might be

889
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:27,840
Speaker 11: your last guy that you smiling about, you know what

890
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 11: I'm saying. So I don't want to be to a

891
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 11: point where I'm missing on Downs, but I'll take this

892
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 11: second round grated player at twelfth. Overall, that'll make me

893
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 11: take Downs, be like, all right, just sit down one

894
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 11: year and just come back in twenty seven twenty.

895
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:39,399
Speaker 10: Yeah.

896
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 9: I mean, look, if Downs is on the board and

897
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 9: they don't really have anybody left that skratening the first round,

898
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 9: which I don't think would be the case, But if

899
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,400
Speaker 9: that is the case, then yeah, I think at that

900
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 9: point they would just say, all right, well we'll pick whoever,

901
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 9: and we're gonna treat it as though we have two

902
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 9: first round picks next year.

903
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 7: Yeah.

904
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:58,839
Speaker 3: The I think the number one thing to remember here

905
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 3: for everybody at home, this is just to hypothetical. Were

906
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 3: just not out for the twenty twenty six season.

907
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:03,319
Speaker 9: Right, yeah?

908
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:06,319
Speaker 3: Correct? And even if it's a partially torn meniscaus, that's

909
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 3: probably not there's.

910
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 9: Yeah, there's there's no chatter that he would that I've

911
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:11,760
Speaker 9: heard that he would be out for the lost.

912
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:12,880
Speaker 3: I just want to be clear on that, so that

913
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:16,360
Speaker 3: way nobody knows. We're just bringing up a hypothetical situation.

914
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 11: Bobby, would you take Keldric Falk over Downs if Downs

915
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:19,799
Speaker 11: couldn't play this year?

916
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:20,279
Speaker 9: No?

917
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 10: Okay, okay, we're gonna have to push No.

918
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 9: No, I would not take Keldrick Falk.

919
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 3: Max wants to know who is a guy who is

920
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 3: well known that the Cowboys like and are interested in.

921
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 3: Examples twenty twenty three. You remember mentioning that they liked

922
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:37,280
Speaker 3: Mazzie Smith and they had interest in Tyler Guidon.

923
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:38,280
Speaker 7: Then there's the.

924
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 3: Last season they had the tech ncmill and stuff. Anybody

925
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:43,719
Speaker 3: that they are interested in after the combine that you've so.

926
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 9: If you just rewind the last three minutes, Yeah, they

927
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:48,759
Speaker 9: like Caleb Downes.

928
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:49,360
Speaker 8: Sonny Styles.

929
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:51,240
Speaker 10: Yeah.

930
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 9: Yeahs as is sometimes the case with everything in life.

931
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 9: Sometimes what you're pursuing, you're you might be falling in

932
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 9: love with someone who's outside your your range is just

933
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:05,359
Speaker 9: the problem, because I mean, Sunny Styles is at this point,

934
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:06,840
Speaker 9: I don't think it's going to be there. Yeah, but

935
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:08,799
Speaker 9: I do think they love Sonny Styles. I think they

936
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 9: they love Caleb downs And just now it would be

937
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 9: a question of how comfortable are they with downs medical

938
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:17,400
Speaker 9: how comfortable was the rest of the league with Downs'

939
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 9: medicals where they could even potentially push him down to you.

940
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:25,360
Speaker 3: In past years, the Cowboys have taken Tank Lawrence because

941
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:27,839
Speaker 3: this is from Jake by the way, Tank Lawrence because

942
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 3: they were at least he was the last one available

943
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 3: at their position of need. What position would they most

944
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:36,840
Speaker 3: likely sacrifice value to get a position because of the

945
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 3: lack of a day to pick?

946
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 4: So this is a So I want to bring up

947
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 4: a fascinating situation where you're wiped up, wiped out at

948
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 4: twelve and you have the guys that we've been talking

949
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 4: about off the board, Caleb Down, Sonny Styles, Monsieur Delaine,

950
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 4: which is Bailey Bay possible.

951
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 8: Jeremiah Love.

952
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:55,439
Speaker 4: They're all off the board, right and we've we've talked

953
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 4: about that situation enough.

954
00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 8: Dylan Theneman, just take him at twelve. I'm okay with it.

955
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 10: Theenemon or how thee canemon or malanoa theenemon, Oh you're

956
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 10: just talking about little hesitating.

957
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 11: What were you just talking about? Like, were you just

958
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 11: talking about defensive player? See that's where okay with me.

959
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 4: Okay, let's say it's a Theenemon versus malanoa situation that's

960
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 4: exactly what he's talking about there, where it's like you

961
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:21,239
Speaker 4: take the last guy at a position of need, maybe

962
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 4: over someone you valued a little bit more. Because I do,

963
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 4: I will finish with Malon gooo with a higher grade

964
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:28,400
Speaker 4: than Dylan Thenaman. Dylan Thinaman is such a baller, and

965
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 4: you need him at a position of need. I think

966
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:31,799
Speaker 4: he could play nickel two, and I think he has

967
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:33,799
Speaker 4: the athleticism of physicality to step up.

968
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 8: And affect the backfield.

969
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 4: I would take him at twelve, and I'd be just

970
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 4: fine with Would it be ideal? Probably not, but I'd

971
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:40,279
Speaker 4: take him at twelve.

972
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:43,280
Speaker 9: Just to have them. I think it's you're you're looking

973
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 9: at coming out of Indy. One of the big things

974
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,880
Speaker 9: I came away with was I felt like twelve or

975
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:49,839
Speaker 9: twenty one of them is going to be a defensive back.

976
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 9: Like I don't think that. I don't think it's a

977
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 9: thing where it's like, oh, okay, Sunny Styles gets to

978
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 9: us a twelve, there's our linebacker. I think that they're

979
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:00,400
Speaker 9: looking at twenties like a defensive back at all costs,

980
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 9: Like it did. I think at that point they might

981
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 9: say all right, this edge rusher might be a little

982
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:07,880
Speaker 9: bit ahead of this, this corner whatever, but like we

983
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 9: need piece there. That seems to be the area that

984
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:13,880
Speaker 9: they are most concerned with right now is the secondary.

985
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:15,880
Speaker 4: But again, I think we're gonna we're gonna find out

986
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 4: a lot more next year.

987
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 7: Flourish yours, Tommy.

988
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:20,359
Speaker 6: I'm with Nick.

989
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 5: I think if you're wiped and Theeneman's there at twelve,

990
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:24,759
Speaker 5: I got no problem with that.

991
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:26,319
Speaker 6: I got no problem with that.

992
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:26,759
Speaker 1: He can be.

993
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 5: He can be the kind of player that Christian Parker

994
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 5: was talking about in terms of the nickel corner that

995
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:34,719
Speaker 5: can kind of do everything because you're gonna have so

996
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 5: much responsibility. There's so many guys I think in this

997
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 5: class that they're nickel guys like I can't say Scott,

998
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:43,240
Speaker 5: I think is a great example from Miami nickel corner

999
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:45,400
Speaker 5: who is kind of limited in what he can do

1000
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 5: in coverage. Whereas you get Dylan Theenaman, and he can

1001
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 5: check every box for you. You can cover, he can play

1002
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:51,360
Speaker 5: in the box, and he can get.

1003
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 9: After the quarterback.

1004
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:53,760
Speaker 5: Those are the three things that you want your nickel

1005
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:56,399
Speaker 5: to do, right, and I think that Theenamon fits that one.

1006
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 5: I think Caleb Downs is the pristine example of doing

1007
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 5: all those things at a high level. But I think

1008
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 5: theeneman does a good job of that as well, just

1009
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 5: as good, uh you know, I wouldn't say better, but

1010
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 5: good enough to where you can still get a really

1011
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 5: good player that can be the heartbeat of your defense.

1012
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 9: So what's wiped? Like when you say like you'll take

1013
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:14,400
Speaker 9: thena minute twelve if you're wipe, so who has to

1014
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 9: come off the board for you to say it?

1015
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:17,239
Speaker 8: Just that was just what was just walked through.

1016
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 10: But like both the linebackers Delanye is both your corners. Sorry,

1017
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 10: so so.

1018
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 9: It'd be Reese Bailey Bane, Reese Bailey Banks or including

1019
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 9: Bane and that Delane.

1020
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 11: We're not mentioning McCoy because he's heard Downs.

1021
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 9: I'm thinking more and more Bane's going to be there

1022
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 9: at twelve. Just the more you hear people.

1023
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 11: It's starting to sound like that, Well, we're about to

1024
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 11: have a damn party if that's the case.

1025
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:44,440
Speaker 9: But this is like if ban ban, maybe they're at thirteen.

1026
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:50,440
Speaker 11: If teams somehow got good at what the cowboys with

1027
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:53,840
Speaker 11: with the Cowboys not, are the Cowboys gonna suck at

1028
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 11: drafted because.

1029
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:55,719
Speaker 10: Bank no arms and short.

1030
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:58,319
Speaker 9: No, no, no, I'm just saying, like I'm saying, you have

1031
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:00,320
Speaker 9: no idea what the board would look like. Maybe somebody's

1032
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 9: falling there that you're looking at, and you know, no,

1033
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:02,400
Speaker 9: I'd rather have that over you.

1034
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 11: See Bane differently, if you had to make a board,

1035
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:06,720
Speaker 11: you would say Bane is like a fifteen top ten.

1036
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:09,399
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, yeah, fifteen, But like, I don't like, he's

1037
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:12,400
Speaker 9: like five for me. They brought that up, Sewan and

1038
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 9: r J brought that up yesterday where they were like, hey,

1039
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 9: if he uh, if he somehow a prayer is answered

1040
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 9: and he falls through twelve, I'm like him falling to

1041
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:22,799
Speaker 9: twelve doesn't feel like prayer to me, like or a

1042
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 9: prayer answered, twelve feels like about where he should go.

1043
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:27,360
Speaker 3: I had like, I feel like twelfth player.

1044
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 9: Yeah, I feel like he's twelve to fifteen. Yeah, like

1045
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 9: I would say, I don't think it's tags touching with

1046
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 9: Baine and Bailey, like a lot of people have talked about,

1047
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 9: I think Bailey is significantly better.

1048
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 10: If the Cowboys pig Bane, does he play four I

1049
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 10: or does he play Liamdbacker.

1050
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 9: All Right, that's a good question. I think probably four I.

1051
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:50,319
Speaker 3: All right, that does it for Twitter on the twenty

1052
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:52,239
Speaker 3: and had a lot of questions, great questions. I may

1053
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 3: even ask a couple of these in the next segment,

1054
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 3: because when we come back word waited it yourself, I'm

1055
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 3: gonna tweet it.

1056
00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 7: Yeah, there you go.

1057
00:43:57,880 --> 00:43:59,959
Speaker 3: When we come back, I want to continue having common

1058
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:03,439
Speaker 3: versations about maybe the options for Dallas and positions of need.

1059
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 3: Has that shifted a little bit now with the Christian

1060
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 3: Parker conversation and what we heard even this past week

1061
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:11,439
Speaker 3: about what his scheme is going to look like as

1062
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:13,520
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Speaker 3: Final segment here of the Draft Show. On a Tuesday,

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Speaker 3: the week following the NFL combine, had a lot of

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Speaker 3: great questions on Twitter on the twenty on the tweet today.

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Speaker 3: So I want to ask a couple more of these,

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Speaker 3: and this is kind of what we already were looking

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Speaker 3: at in this segment going into it. But Sam wanted

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Speaker 3: to know with each position of need, what round caliber

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Speaker 3: of player would be an upgrade over what the Cowboys

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Speaker 3: have on the roster already. So we can just go

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Speaker 3: position by position. We'll start with linebacker. What caliber of

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Speaker 3: round grade would be an upgrade over what Dallas has

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Speaker 3: at linebacker?

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Speaker 11: Linebacker, Yes, somebody we're not overshown, but like anybody in

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Speaker 11: the top three or four rounds probably.

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Speaker 9: Been in Yeah, anything, I mean legitimately, anybody who could

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Speaker 9: go on the top one fifty, Yeah, might be. It

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Speaker 9: would be just because over shown was coming back from

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Speaker 9: an injury where it looked like he was The question

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Speaker 9: there is just like is this just a new norm

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Speaker 9: or is there rust that he was knocking off? And

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Speaker 9: so until that questions answered, if you just go by

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Speaker 9: the guys who had all season, like Kenneth Murray, I

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Speaker 9: would take any linebacker that's draftable over Kenneth Murray.

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Speaker 8: I will say.

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Speaker 4: You know, you've hear Jerry and Steven talking about spending

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Speaker 4: a little bit more in free agency than they have

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Speaker 4: in the past. I think you're going to see that

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Speaker 4: show up at linebacker the most hm, So you know,

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Speaker 4: probably revisit this next week.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, once we kind of see what they're doing, all right?

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Speaker 3: What about uh Edge Rusher, same kind of.

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Speaker 10: Thing you all got to bes James?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, good enough. So we're saying good enough to be

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Speaker 9: a top to somebody who would start for them.

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Speaker 7: Upgrade over what you've got.

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Speaker 9: Do we include Clowny in that who's a free agent? No,

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Speaker 9: don't include clown Probably not, okay, so we would say

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Speaker 9: Houston and as a Rocky right now.

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Speaker 11: As at this moment, I think most of these guys

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Speaker 11: in the first and second rounds would play over Houston.

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Speaker 6: I was gonna say day two and up.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, it's a top one hundred first two days. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 9: once you once you get into fourth round. I mean,

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Speaker 9: James Houston played well for stretches last year, so I

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Speaker 9: don't want to just completely throw him under the bus.

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Speaker 7: Cornerback a tough.

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Speaker 9: One, healthy health corners healthy who's ready to play, because

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Speaker 9: corners are so inconsistent in terms how ready to play

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Speaker 9: they are at the NFL.

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Speaker 4: As a bland and Revel both are not healthy than

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Speaker 4: the top five rounds.

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Speaker 8: I think, yeah, I think it stretches that far.

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Speaker 4: But let's say Bland and Revel one hundred percent healthy.

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Speaker 4: You're looking for a nickel and you're trying to do

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Speaker 4: better than Kaylan Carson top four rounds.

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Speaker 3: So even when you're at one fourteen, you're going into

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Speaker 3: the fourth round, you feel pretty.

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Speaker 7: Good about what you're going to get.

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Speaker 4: I'll say I have a guy that can compete absolutely

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Speaker 4: that one fourteenth spot. It should be talked about. I

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Speaker 4: get that there's two first round picks that one fourteenth spot.

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Speaker 4: If you hit it right, you can find another defense.

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Speaker 3: They've got a good track record of fourth round picks,

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Speaker 3: you know.

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Speaker 9: Not just not based on talent, based solely on how

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Speaker 9: quick corners usually are ready to play at the NFL level.

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Speaker 9: Then I would say top two rounds, wouldn't. I wouldn't

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Speaker 9: all the way to four just because I think there

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Speaker 9: will be guys in the third round who are more

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Speaker 9: talented than guys like Kaylan Carson. But to me, it's

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Speaker 9: like they are. There's always such a curve with rookie corners.

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Speaker 9: They get picked on so consistently at the NFL level

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Speaker 9: that I would just I need to see like real

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Speaker 9: top tier talent. That's why I honestly would if you're

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Speaker 9: gonna talk about a dressing corner other than the nickel

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Speaker 9: safety hybrid stuff, I'd rather do some of that in

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Speaker 9: free agency.

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Speaker 11: I think you can get into round four, assuming that

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Speaker 11: the draft helps you out a little bit. You know,

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Speaker 11: just like what if like Kyle Lewis is there before

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Speaker 11: he probably won't, but like what if Halsey probably won't

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Speaker 11: be there, But what if Genesis Smith, he you know,

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Speaker 11: could be But what if? You know, I think I

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Speaker 11: think you can find a safety that can come in

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Speaker 11: and play for you because I don't think the what

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Speaker 11: the Cowboys might put some money on safety, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Give me names or schools off of the Jenner.

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Speaker 10: Smith saved from Arizona.

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Speaker 11: I said Kyle Kyle Lewis linebackers safety type dude from

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Speaker 11: a pit and I mentioned the Halsey who probably wouldn't.

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Speaker 11: But some teams may look at Hoss and be like,

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Speaker 11: I don't know if you're gonna run that fast because

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Speaker 11: you that big from LSU. He might fall to the

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Speaker 11: fourth round or something like that.

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Speaker 3: Final one that will do And then we'll move on.

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Speaker 4: But safety, Oh, I just yeah, his safety classes. This

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Speaker 4: is the year of the safety man. So I'd say

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Speaker 4: four rounds and potentially even they stretch into the fifth.

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Speaker 9: I think it's going to be great. Yeah, if you're

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Speaker 9: talking about two open spots, you probably go four rounds. Now,

1214
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Speaker 9: we're just talking about Hooker, Like, I mean, I think

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Speaker 9: Hooker is a good player. I think Hooker catches a

1216
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Speaker 9: bad rap a lot of times. I could basically first

1217
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Speaker 9: round with safeties when it comes to Hooker, But like,

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Speaker 9: knowing there's two open spots, you could go four to probably.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Tommy, you had a couple of conversations last week

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Speaker 3: with Christian Parker and around the defensive staff specifically, But

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Speaker 3: did you get any kind of feeling on where they

1222
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Speaker 3: value certain position groups in the draft based off of

1223
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Speaker 3: what you heard from a new scheme change kind of

1224
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Speaker 3: their thought process.

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Speaker 5: Well, I think the nickel corner spot is one that

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Speaker 5: he's been very open about. But I think I really

1227
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Speaker 5: think that this group wants to win at the line

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Speaker 5: of scrimmage and get after the quarterback. I think you're

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Speaker 5: good at defensive tackle. They feel good about the three

1230
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Speaker 5: guys they've got there. They feel good about the ability

1231
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Speaker 5: to create that interior pressure. But where is this pass

1232
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Speaker 5: rush going to come from? Like, who are the outside

1233
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Speaker 5: linebackers that they're going to trust to close from the

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Speaker 5: outside and turn that corner and put the quarterback in

1235
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Speaker 5: a box. Who are those guys they move Marris Leaf

1236
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Speaker 5: out outside linebacker. I'm on the fence about that. I

1237
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Speaker 5: don't know if I'm super confident that that's gonna work out.

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Speaker 5: Donovan Azaraku, I could see that working out, but you know,

1239
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Speaker 5: we do, like we just talked about, if James Houston

1240
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Speaker 5: and Jadavian Clowney are your next best options, then I

1241
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Speaker 5: don't think you're going to have a very good pass rush.

1242
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Speaker 5: So you know, maybe it is a Bane coming into

1243
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Speaker 5: the defensive line that they feel like at twelve is

1244
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Speaker 5: a home run. And you know, why is he sitting here?

1245
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Speaker 5: I've got him at six on my board, or you know,

1246
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Speaker 5: any one of these pass rushers at twenty if somebody

1247
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Speaker 5: slips like a Zion Young from Missouri, or if teams

1248
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Speaker 5: are sold on the tape from our Mason Thomas and

1249
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Speaker 5: can kind of put aside the testing numbers, you know,

1250
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Speaker 5: is that where they're looking to go early because that

1251
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:48,719
Speaker 5: position in the draft is so much more important or

1252
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Speaker 5: high value, I should say, is that pass rusher it's

1253
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Speaker 5: harder to hit on. But is that where they go

1254
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Speaker 5: in the first round while filling out linebacker like you

1255
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Speaker 5: guys talked about in free agency, or filling out corner

1256
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Speaker 5: in freegency because you get a more veteran, experienced player

1257
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Speaker 5: that maybe doesn't have as high of a chance to get

1258
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Speaker 5: picked on. So maybe that's where this team's looking. And

1259
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Speaker 5: that's kind of where what I got the impression of.

1260
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Speaker 5: You know that that's certainly more of a possibility then

1261
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Speaker 5: you would think it just depends on who's there, because

1262
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Speaker 5: I mean, Bailey is the best guy in the class

1263
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Speaker 5: and he's going to go top seven.

1264
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Speaker 6: Or you could always trade for somebody, or you could

1265
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Speaker 6: always trade for somebody.

1266
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Speaker 7: Anybody in your conversation's there too.

1267
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Speaker 4: Last week, I would look at you're talking about for

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Speaker 4: top twelve, yeah.

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Speaker 3: Or just in general, like where they could be looking

1270
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Speaker 3: for first round talent, that kind of thing.

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Speaker 4: Uh did Yeah, I would say edge for sure. I

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Speaker 4: mean absolutely, I'm going to be completely honest. I had

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Speaker 4: gotten a text and I kind of zoned out for

1274
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Speaker 4: a second. So what is the question here?

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Speaker 3: So Christian Parker specifically, Like with the scheme and with

1276
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Speaker 3: the change and what they've had based on your conversations

1277
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Speaker 3: last week, do you get a better idea now of

1278
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 3: where they could be looking to add in the draft? Yeah,

1279
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:01,719
Speaker 3: a position in need. I mean, we've talked about these

1280
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 3: position needs, but is there one that's starting to kind of.

1281
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Speaker 4: That's funny because the text is that what the text edge? Edge,

1282
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Speaker 4: I mean, it just makes a lot of sense. Edge

1283
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Speaker 4: does make a lot of sense.

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Speaker 11: Bobby Nick, Kyle Tommy based on how y'all feel the

1285
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:17,480
Speaker 11: level that the Cowboys are going to go in the

1286
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Speaker 11: free agency or trade market to fill.

1287
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Speaker 10: The edge room.

1288
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Speaker 11: If they draft an edge guy mellow height our Mason Thomas, whoever, bang,

1289
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Speaker 11: do you think that that rookie would be the third

1290
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Speaker 11: best rusher or the fourth best rusher.

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Speaker 9: I think if they go acquire a veteran edge rusher,

1292
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Speaker 9: your rookies your.

1293
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Speaker 10: Third Okay, Okay, that makes sense what I'm saying.

1294
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:42,960
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, you know, depending on who falls obviously, Like

1295
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:44,840
Speaker 9: if you view them as above as a rock, I

1296
00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:47,279
Speaker 9: think they're going to spend real capital because of that

1297
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Speaker 9: drusher here.

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Speaker 11: Because the Cowboys go like they'll be like, hey man,

1299
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Speaker 11: we feel really excited about what we did at Cornerback.

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Speaker 10: Daryl World is about to run out there and do it.

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Speaker 11: You know what I'm saying, Like, based on how you

1302
00:54:57,200 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 11: feel that they're going to attack edge, where is the

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Speaker 11: rookie fit?

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Speaker 10: Now? That is what I'm saying.

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Speaker 9: I know everybody says I'll believe it when I see it.

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Speaker 9: Whatever else, this whole bust. The budget line is I

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Speaker 9: feel like one hundred percent real. Okay, I think they're

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Speaker 9: spending I think so too.

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Speaker 13: Uh.

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Speaker 3: Final thing before we go usually out of Indianapolis, we

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Speaker 3: get a better idea of who might be flagged with

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Speaker 3: injuries or concerns across the board. That'll continue to go

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Speaker 3: out between now and the draft the next fifty one days.

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Speaker 8: We're going to learn more and more of that.

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Speaker 3: But Bobby, just kind of your league wide sources and

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Speaker 3: what you've seen. Have you heard of any other names

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Speaker 3: that have popped up? Mentioned Caleb Downs and I don't

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Speaker 3: want to knock anybody's draft stock, but just kind of

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Speaker 3: the murmurs that you're heard yet not.

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Speaker 9: Yet haven't heard murmurs about any murmurs like of anything

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Speaker 9: that was found out. Okay, No, I that you your start,

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Speaker 9: you're still having Like, for instance, there's I know one

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Speaker 9: person that I had reached out to about some of

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Speaker 9: the down stuff was the word back was we we

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Speaker 9: haven't even gotten through all of our stuff yet and

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Speaker 9: so still a little early. But I mean the two

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Speaker 9: that have popped downs with the rumor and then it

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Speaker 9: was announced yesterday by Tom pellisera was a mod Moses

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Speaker 9: at some U the safety who is going to have

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Speaker 9: fusion surgery and so that that's very similar to what

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Speaker 9: Demone Clark had when they found that at the Combent

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Speaker 9: and then obviously didn't work out as a player, but

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Speaker 9: was able to get back on the field and was

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Speaker 9: able to contribute the same year. So those are the

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Speaker 9: two big ones that we've started to hear about. But yeah,

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Speaker 9: it'll be more. Probably next week you'll start hearing a

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Speaker 9: little bit more chatter about guys who were medically flagged

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Speaker 9: for something that The big stuff you're hearing right now

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Speaker 9: is just interviews. You're hearing how people handled interviews and

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Speaker 9: how those went, and so like you're he in a

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00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:50,520
Speaker 9: lot about Sunny Styles. You're hearing some people talk really

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Speaker 9: highly of even though he didn't test. You're hearing some

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00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:56,040
Speaker 9: people talk highly of the way Jermad McCoy interviewed both

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Speaker 9: the Tennessee corners. Actually, Coultonhood and Jermad McCoy both apparently

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Speaker 9: interviewed well around the World League. And so that's that's

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00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:03,040
Speaker 9: some of the chatter that you're starting to hear right

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Speaker 9: now is just personality. How some guys came off.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, uh yeah, And there's a first round linebacker that

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Speaker 4: I'd be curious to know what comes of some injury

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Speaker 4: concerns that came out of Indy. I don't want to

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Speaker 4: throw it out there just yet because it's just one

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Speaker 4: person telling me this, but again, this is this injury

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Speaker 4: red flag stuff.

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Speaker 8: It affects everybody.

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Speaker 4: We already talked about Caleb Downs, but yeah, there's gonna

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Speaker 4: be some interesting names that we talk about in a

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00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:27,920
Speaker 4: couple of weeks, no doubt, got it. And when he

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Speaker 4: starty visits happen and they bring him here to the

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Speaker 4: Cowboy specifically, so they send him across the way here

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Speaker 4: to this Baylor, scot and White Athletic facility to get

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Speaker 4: them completely looked.

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Speaker 9: At, which that is a big part of the thirty visits.

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Speaker 9: By the way, if if you see them, bring in

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00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:43,120
Speaker 9: thirty visit guys. Sometimes it's super interest. Other times it's

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Speaker 9: just we don't have a medical on this guy and

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00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:45,600
Speaker 9: we need to get one.

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Speaker 10: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Do you feel like because of that, now that the

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Speaker 3: rumor is kind of out there and he was flagged,

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Speaker 3: they want to take another look at it. You're probably

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Speaker 3: going to see Caleb Downs as a thirty visit position

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Speaker 3: to need problem interest very well? Yeah, very well, get

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Speaker 3: a medical too.

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Speaker 9: Very well. Could have seen it with or without that,

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Speaker 9: just because of their interest level. But it's also funny, like,

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Speaker 9: I mean, this is a team and other teams have

1377
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:08,680
Speaker 9: done it before. They will sometimes use a thirty visit

1378
00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:11,320
Speaker 9: on somebody they're not even particularly interested in. It's with

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00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:14,000
Speaker 9: the motive tell them about your teammate, like, well, I

1380
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:15,960
Speaker 9: got you here. You want to start hearing about so

1381
00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:17,720
Speaker 9: you bring in an Ohio State player, like, tell me

1382
00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:19,760
Speaker 9: a little b about Caleb Downs. How did he run that?

1383
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:22,920
Speaker 9: You just start getting testimony from other guys. Yeah, all right.

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Speaker 3: We will be back on Thursday with more of the

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Speaker 3: Draft show eleven am Central Time. Hope you had some

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Speaker 3: fun with us over the last hour talking about the

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Speaker 3: NFL Combine, what we learned from it. We'll continue to

1388
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Speaker 3: get into some scouting reports. We're going to talk about

1389
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Speaker 3: a lot of film on Thursday. If y'all are cool

1390
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Speaker 3: with that, do it. We got a lot of news

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Speaker 3: and notes today, a lot of new information.

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Speaker 7: But let's start.

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Speaker 3: Adding some scouting reports to this show and we'll have

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Speaker 3: that on Thursday for you. For Voch Lombardi, Nick Harris,

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Speaker 3: Tommy Yarish, Bobby Belt, Chris Beam in the back of

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Speaker 3: Kyle Yemen saying so long from the draft show. We

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Speaker 3: will see you on Thursday.

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