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Speaker 2: Something real loud, but most importantly, start this puppy off

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Speaker 2: guest Jamie Kennedy.

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Speaker 1: I Am Rapport Stereo Podcast.

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Speaker 3: My man from illadelf Philadelphi, The Illa, the Ihiladelphis, Jamie Kennedy, who.

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Speaker 2: Every now and then people think I was in Malibu's

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Speaker 2: Most Wanted. But the person that I get recognized and

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Speaker 2: mistaken for the most is I understand why although it's

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Speaker 2: so far out, is Woody Harrelson from White Man Kintum.

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Speaker 4: I don't know why. It's not what Hey Harrelson from

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Speaker 5: Wow, It's just sometimes people go Malibu's Most Wanted to me, dude,

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Speaker 5: it's from the association from basketball, which I believe the

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Speaker 5: first time I met you, Jamie No, I just remember

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Speaker 5: the first time I met you.

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Speaker 2: But you used to also correct me if I playing

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Speaker 2: the Celebrity Basketball League here.

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Speaker 3: Bro, this hurts me. We were on the same team.

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Speaker 3: We were on the same team.

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Speaker 4: There's nothing memorable about my game or nothing memorable ball your.

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Speaker 3: Game, yo, Raja. Yes, so he used to run practices,

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Speaker 3: remember that. Yes, we used to do that, but we

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Speaker 3: were never It wasn't always.

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Speaker 1: We were there sometimes and sometimes people were working.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, we had a good season. The Celebrity All

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Speaker 3: Star Brian McKnight always would drain from the.

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Speaker 4: Heat, but he would drain from three.

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Speaker 2: But if you're shooting thirty five shots, yeah, you're gonna

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Speaker 2: catch fire at a certain point.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: And Brian McKnight he could play, yeah, but he also

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Speaker 2: would He just didn't care about passing.

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Speaker 3: He really didn't know what that was at all.

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Speaker 1: And like I said, he would get hot.

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Speaker 2: But if you're shooting thirty five shots, you might go

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Speaker 2: on like an eight shot streak, yeah, and then miss

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Speaker 2: seven and then get on another like seven shot streak.

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Speaker 3: You were always go for about eight and twelve.

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Speaker 4: I would say, ain't twelve fouls?

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Speaker 1: Wait? But you know it's I got in.

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Speaker 3: I would come in second, third string, get a couple

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Speaker 1: Maybe one, you know, put back. I was so much.

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Speaker 3: Fun, dude, the best, like legit and legit, like Pooky Poky.

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Speaker 1: Pooky was like the king of the league.

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Speaker 3: Yes, and so we had legit ballers, yes, and then

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Speaker 3: we had actors. But who do you remember that could play?

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Speaker 3: Oh well, obviously Brian, but really you keep going to

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Speaker 3: Brian mcnack. I'm gonna give I'm gonna give you two.

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Speaker 1: Are you ready?

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Speaker 3: Who taught me how to have a left was Mark Blucas.

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Speaker 3: He could plays, he was legit because he's fucking wake

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Speaker 3: Forest Tim.

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Speaker 1: He played with Tim Duncan. He didn't count and uh,

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Speaker 1: Dean Kane. Dean Kane could play. He could play.

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Speaker 3: He also told me how to do a little crossover.

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Speaker 2: You know who could play before he started making a

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Speaker 2: and I tell him to say his face. Kevin Hart

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Speaker 2: used to be like one of those quick really Kevin

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Speaker 2: Hart used to be able to play play. He would

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Speaker 3: He he could play before he he was not in

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Speaker 2: He was no, he was in it. He was in

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Speaker 2: Because it was like you'd see people that had game,

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Speaker 2: Will Ferrell, like you're out there with him, you don't

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Speaker 1: It's so funny.

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Speaker 2: Boratt would be out there sometimes you're like, I can't

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Speaker 2: take this. Toby Maguire plays like he's on fire, like

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, but it was just a hard defender Toby, right,

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Speaker 3: he's always swatting the ball.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because he doesn't know if he's like yeah, but

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Speaker 2: that's it just still Timberlake had some game ish.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's when we first met. Like oh, it was

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Speaker 2: Which which you already know, like the competitiveness goes down here.

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Speaker 1: Well, everybody thought they were so good.

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Speaker 4: Because also they'd give us real uniforms.

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Speaker 2: We all have dope sneakers on, like a Lakers jersey,

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Speaker 2: like it's the real jersey, the real weight.

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Speaker 4: They're why they were taping our ankles before it. I

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Speaker 4: have no idea.

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Speaker 3: Don't stretch you, bro. We had but dude, we had practices.

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Speaker 3: We we had a practice in Wheel and you were

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Speaker 1: I don't think you remember, you're like all right, layups.

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Speaker 1: We were running drills.

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Speaker 3: But why did somebody and Baron Davis shout out, who

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Speaker 2: Why would they pay somebody to tape people ankles that

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Speaker 1: Going at half a stead little bow. Wow, yeah bow.

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Speaker 1: He ran a lot. He ran a lot. Another one

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Speaker 1: didn't like to pass. He didn't love to pay.

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Speaker 2: Jamie Fox, who I'm so happy you're feeling good. Yes,

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Speaker 2: so happy you're feeling out. I remember Jamie Fox played

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Speaker 2: the morning of the Oscars before he won the Oscar

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Speaker 2: for Ray. We had a game and I was like,

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Speaker 2: I was like, he didn't pass, And I was like,

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Speaker 2: if I got nominated for Best Actor, I'm not passing yeady. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: Like I'm just this is like it's a game, but

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Speaker 1: Yeah. He literally played on the morning of Ray. Were

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Speaker 3: I wasn't, but I remember that that was crazy.

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Speaker 2: He played that Sunday morning before the Oscars and then

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Speaker 2: won the Oscar the same.

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Speaker 3: Night, legend and probably won the game.

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Speaker 2: No, No, I'm so glad he's feeling good. But I

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Speaker 2: has no game, but big stars, so he's in. He's

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Speaker 2: able to shoot. And when you're Oscar Nominee and the

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Speaker 2: oscars of that, you're gonna shoot as much as you want.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're gonna let him shoot. Let him fly. Who

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Speaker 1: was a sneaky guy? Who?

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Speaker 3: Who was good? Besides the people I named.

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Speaker 2: It was always it was always the guys that you

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Speaker 2: wouldn't like. Wood Harris was good. Yes, Wood could play.

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Speaker 3: Yes, Oh, Dean kan Blucas.

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Speaker 1: Those guys were good.

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Speaker 3: Uh, Homie the Steve Howie was nice. Yeah, how he

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Speaker 3: Howie Howie was good. I think he played in college

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Speaker 2: He's big and he talks ship and he's young and

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Speaker 2: he could play. And he's another one like to shoot,

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Speaker 2: got in the zone and was nutty. But he was

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Speaker 3: He was the like to who's the dude from the

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Speaker 1: Like Steve Adams. Yeah, he was a Steve Adams type.

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Speaker 2: Yes, but he could play flex Flex could play too.

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Speaker 1: And Bill belliie, Nope, no.

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Speaker 3: No, I tell Bill Bill's Bill. We came on clean, crazy,

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Speaker 2: Looked like he should be able to play. Couldn't play.

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Speaker 2: I tell him this also. I tell him this also,

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Speaker 2: Flex could play Bill Bellamie couldn't play, but look like

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Speaker 3: Wow Flex past. But you had to make it. If

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Speaker 4: The Queens would come out him. I think he's from

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Speaker 2: Jamie Kennedy, we've been friends. You got your podcast. You

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Speaker 2: also when I started doing stand up about five years ago,

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Speaker 2: you were encouraging to start doing stand up for me,

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Speaker 2: like to get back into it. You've had a great career.

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Speaker 2: Do you feel like you've have a great career. Because

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Speaker 2: I'll be honest, I see you sometimes on social media.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, Yo, you've had a lot of fucking dope shit.

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Speaker 2: And also I'm like, I feel like sometimes I feel

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Speaker 2: I feel like sometimes I get the sense that I'm like,

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Speaker 2: you're not done. I hope you don't think, yeah, no,

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Speaker 2: and there's thirty five forty more years knock on wood that.

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Speaker 1: You could keep rocking.

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Speaker 2: But do you like, how do you feel about your

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Speaker 2: career at this point in your life when you look

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Speaker 2: you've done a.

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Speaker 3: Lot of shit.

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Speaker 1: I'm blessed, you know what I mean, Like, I have

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Speaker 3: And I think about that and I don't like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I hope I do still have a lot of juice

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Speaker 1: A lot of in the tank.

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Speaker 3: But it's like I'm trying, you know, we're out there

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Speaker 3: and we're right, and I think about some of the

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Speaker 3: shit I've done, like I've been in Three Kings, David o'

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Speaker 3: russell and Tony Scott, will Smith, you know, Enemy of

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Speaker 3: the State, you know, Bowfinger. I've been so blessed and

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Speaker 3: then I got to do my own stuff right, and

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Speaker 3: it's like the business is so different, it's so wild

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Speaker 3: right now, and I think there's a lot of underutilized

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Speaker 3: assets that a lot of us that have a lot

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Speaker 3: of good careers, you know what I mean, you were

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Speaker 3: I'm very happy with what I've done, but I'm also like, yo,

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Speaker 3: I could do a little more.

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Speaker 1: Of course, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: We're all reading for this Katherine Heigel movie and none

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Speaker 4: You were involved, Katherine Heigel, She's the girl.

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Speaker 4: It, and and you go into it was nine am.

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Speaker 3: Five pages of fucking massive dialogue were like a cop,

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Speaker 2: But I saw because I was going through some of

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Speaker 4: You on social media. Appreciate that at Jamie.

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Speaker 1: Who else is read? You know? And I remember it

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Speaker 2: The director's a problem, like you don't know what you

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Speaker 2: If you want to have coffee, meet us all separately

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Speaker 1: To be graace with all of our presence, Like who

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Speaker 3: So he's done a million of David's done. He's sick,

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Speaker 3: He's incredible. So you saw the clip. Okay, so but

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Speaker 3: like Baz Lurement All Tour, they were to wrestle All Tour,

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Speaker 3: they're making this. When they shoot it, it's done. They

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Speaker 3: it's just you. It was me, him and Mary Renew

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Speaker 3: and David's the goat.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 3: So you go in and I'm on the Warner Brothers

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Speaker 3: the first thing I say is to Cia, no disrespect

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Speaker 3: He's like, mmmm, yeah, you gotta work on a little bit.

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Speaker 3: work on it, come back again. Yes, So you had

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Speaker 3: And it was the one, probably the greatest casting I've

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Speaker 3: and Mary's like, yeah, he likes you, Jamie, and just

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Speaker 3: and he's like okay, But did I know I had

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Speaker 1: Did I feel like I had the job yet?

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Speaker 3: Like dude, I went in with the different part, read

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Speaker 3: just that's what the business is not anymore. People can

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Speaker 3: he's an artist. Yeah, Mary's an artist. When I went

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Speaker 3: in with Scream, I wasn't even off book for people

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Speaker 3: that don't know what that is, meaning know your lines.

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Speaker 3: I knew half of my lines and they were like, okay,

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Speaker 1: Now. I went in I'll never forget this, like.

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Speaker 3: Four years ago, five years ago, right before shut I

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Speaker 1: Like you said, they know what it is. You know

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Speaker 3: Maybe a little out of the box with me because

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Speaker 3: I'm playing like like you said, like a little crazier character.

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Speaker 3: what was that fucking show, some kind of tant door

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Speaker 3: bro probably twelve people in the room looking at me

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Speaker 3: and analyzing it, then said, Jamie, you skipped the line

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Speaker 3: can you come back? Probably did it four times? They

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Speaker 3: said yeah, we like them. It was Oh, it was

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Speaker 3: It was like perfect right. It was like three episodes

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Speaker 3: but they really liked it and.

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Speaker 1: Really like it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and then don't you resent the idea for sure?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're gonna you really like you.

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Speaker 2: Just had you start to feel like you're like you're

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Speaker 1: Of course, you really like you just got a free show. Motherfucker. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: But then was great. It made me feel good. Was

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Speaker 3: Lucifer and I was like, oh, it's nice. He just said, Yo,

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Speaker 3: here's a role boom. So it's like, that's the way

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Speaker 3: I think it should roll for us, you know, definitely you.

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Speaker 3: I think me too, Like I tell people, I'm like

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Speaker 3: bounce fabric softener. You know me, I'm on the shelf.

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Speaker 3: You know what I can do. Some days I'm hot,

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Speaker 3: some days I'm not.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 3: Like, there's a bunch of us in this town, Jay yourself,

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Speaker 3: Harlan that have these careers that people kind.

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Speaker 1: Of don't know what to do with.

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Speaker 3: Then the business change. So but we're gonna keep going.

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Speaker 3: But yes, the nineties the early two thousands was a

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Speaker 3: a vibe. Now it's like, if you just want you

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Speaker 2: And then will zoom if you had to zoom or

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Speaker 2: this year. Yeah, I haven't done it yet.

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Speaker 1: I fucking did that.

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Speaker 4: I haven't done it in FORO. I hope I don't

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Speaker 3: My career was buffering, you know what I mean, dude,

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Speaker 3: It's just a different world.

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Speaker 1: And I don't want to take it personally. But you

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Speaker 3: You've done scenes, what you done scenes on the mirror,

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Speaker 3: You've done scenes with Eddie Murphy, You've done I mean, it's.

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Speaker 1: Zoom or you're just singing? Is wild?

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Speaker 4: I know it's not cool for any level of actor.

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Speaker 1: Do you self tape?

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Speaker 4: I fortunately, Jamie, I haven't had to do it yet.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to do it anymore.

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Speaker 2: If I'm going to self tape, I'm not gonna do

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Speaker 1: Like in the room.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna be humiliated, Like if I have to self

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Speaker 2: tape for something like if it's like a cop, or

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Speaker 2: if it's like a robber, or if it's like a banker,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna go into the and I'm gonna be like,

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Speaker 2: you know, yeah, and it'll be a better tape.

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean, Because it's just it just

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Speaker 2: But like it just seems like because you're out on

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Speaker 4: You're experience worked. What was it like David Russell?

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Speaker 2: You know he's had mythic sort of uh these flare

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Speaker 2: ups with Mark Wahlberg, for with Lily Tomlin. What was

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Speaker 3: I absolutely love them. I love him to this day.

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Speaker 3: I love him, I love but here's the difference. I

437
00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:21,040
Speaker 3: also love George, I love Mark. You know Cube that

438
00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:26,720
Speaker 3: was a cast man Nora Dunn, Cube, George, Mark Spike

439
00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:29,920
Speaker 3: and insane.

440
00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:33,360
Speaker 1: Where did you shoot that? Uh? Sayid right?

441
00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:36,760
Speaker 3: Cliff Cliff Curtis like, Yo, it was dope, right, it

442
00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:37,359
Speaker 3: was a mix.

443
00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:41,119
Speaker 1: We shot it in Uh. I think Chandler, Arizona. Okay.

444
00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:45,160
Speaker 3: We all stayed at some shout out Barbara Worth holiday

445
00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:45,960
Speaker 3: and resort.

446
00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:48,480
Speaker 1: Here's what it is for me. It's like, look, dude,

447
00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:49,200
Speaker 1: I'm young.

448
00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:52,119
Speaker 3: I told people you pretty much like the way it

449
00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:54,479
Speaker 3: is today, and you're gonna know what I'm saying, Like

450
00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:57,200
Speaker 3: you could pretty much trip me, spit in my face.

451
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Speaker 1: Shank me.

452
00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:01,160
Speaker 3: If I'm on film, I'm good, you know what I mean,

453
00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:04,560
Speaker 3: Like the goal is to be on film, right, So

454
00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:07,520
Speaker 3: I've had Have I ever seen any crazy shit?

455
00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:08,720
Speaker 1: Just fights?

456
00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:11,560
Speaker 3: Not in life, I've seen a lot of that's the

457
00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:14,320
Speaker 3: creative spot, right, So things gonna happen. But like I

458
00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:16,800
Speaker 3: have a big tolerance, so I can put up with

459
00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:20,960
Speaker 3: anything because to me, at the end of the day,

460
00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:24,600
Speaker 3: it's about the film. So so I'll try to tell

461
00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:28,200
Speaker 3: you is basically he you know, I don't mean, I

462
00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:30,280
Speaker 3: don't know what I can say, but him and George

463
00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:31,719
Speaker 3: had a different style.

464
00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:33,639
Speaker 1: You know, I'm one for me to speak on it,

465
00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:36,680
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to get gospel, but I was like.

466
00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:38,399
Speaker 3: Seventh on the call sheet, so it's not for me

467
00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:41,680
Speaker 3: to speak. But in a nutshell, you know, he has

468
00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:42,480
Speaker 3: one way of working.

469
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Speaker 1: Is he a screamer or was he a screamer on

470
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Speaker 1: that set?

471
00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:51,240
Speaker 3: I'm I mean, like we were outside, so he's trying

472
00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:54,520
Speaker 3: to make Yeah, it's like yo shuit in the fucking desert.

473
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Speaker 1: Bro. It might be like our first a d was hilarious.

474
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Speaker 3: I forget I think it was named is jus a

475
00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:04,040
Speaker 3: legend doue and legend guy and we had there was

476
00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:05,960
Speaker 3: a scene. I don't know if you remember milk all

477
00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:09,520
Speaker 3: this milk. Something happened and all the refugees and they

478
00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:12,320
Speaker 3: were finally like got milk and it was like a

479
00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:15,000
Speaker 3: big deal because they were didn't have food.

480
00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:18,840
Speaker 1: Also, who's in it is the girl from Oh God,

481
00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:21,200
Speaker 1: she's a legend. She's she was a.

482
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Speaker 3: Little girl and now she was on uh the mo

483
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Speaker 3: It'll come back, dude, five G when my brain. She

484
00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:32,200
Speaker 3: was on the show with Michael, Sarah and Bateman Arrest

485
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Speaker 3: of development.

486
00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:34,360
Speaker 1: Yes, but she was a little girl.

487
00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:36,679
Speaker 3: Maybe her name is maybe on the show, but she's brilliant.

488
00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:39,919
Speaker 3: So anyway, we're doing all this stuff and there's like

489
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Speaker 3: one hundred extras and we're giving them milk and all

490
00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:45,080
Speaker 3: this white liquid comes and Julian like the a d

491
00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:48,760
Speaker 3: The people weren't active enough, so he's got the thing

492
00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:52,320
Speaker 3: and the ad is like trying to get them going.

493
00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:55,600
Speaker 3: He's like shouting and then he goes bathing it.

494
00:22:56,760 --> 00:23:00,560
Speaker 1: It's Holy Walt like and they said it's bathing and

495
00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:02,680
Speaker 1: so that was a bit. It was hilarious.

496
00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:06,199
Speaker 3: People were fucking taking stuff, putting it on themselves. So

497
00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:09,600
Speaker 3: was he a screamer, No, just he was. He was

498
00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:12,720
Speaker 3: a dude that wanted to make we were making it

499
00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:17,639
Speaker 3: very hostile, a movie about a hostile thing in hostile

500
00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:21,080
Speaker 3: conditions with X amount of time. Ah, but you know,

501
00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:23,760
Speaker 3: fights are gonna happen, dude, I could tell you fights

502
00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:24,679
Speaker 3: on every set I've been on.

503
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Speaker 2: See I haven't seen that many fights are like you know,

504
00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:31,120
Speaker 2: the sort of cliche Hollywood fights, you know, where it's

505
00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:33,639
Speaker 2: you know, I haven't seen that many. Like if I

506
00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,760
Speaker 2: was like, say, if you ask me, I go, yeah,

507
00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,199
Speaker 2: maybe one I had one with it one director, you know,

508
00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:40,960
Speaker 2: but I haven't seen that much. And a lot of

509
00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,119
Speaker 2: people outside of show Bus would be like, you know,

510
00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:45,240
Speaker 2: who's an asshole or who's the biggest I hate that,

511
00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:49,200
Speaker 2: but I'm always like, you know me, you know, maybe

512
00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,880
Speaker 2: like you know, no, but but I haven't seen that many,

513
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:52,520
Speaker 2: Like I haven't.

514
00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:55,000
Speaker 4: I personally haven't seen that much of it.

515
00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:58,440
Speaker 1: You know, it's you know, whether it's the disagreements.

516
00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:01,520
Speaker 2: I've seen disagreements, but where it's worth mentioning, like you

517
00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:03,840
Speaker 2: see you know, like where it's like you know this

518
00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,360
Speaker 2: one got into this or you know, like the Christian

519
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,520
Speaker 2: Bale moment that got caught on camera. I'm like First

520
00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:10,639
Speaker 2: of all, that was a certain kind of thing, and

521
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:13,399
Speaker 2: we've you know, people like they're fascinated by that, but

522
00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:16,320
Speaker 2: if you contextualize it, it's just sort of somebody didn't

523
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:19,080
Speaker 2: shut up, you know, but a movie start doing it?

524
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:21,520
Speaker 6: Podcast?

525
00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:37,280
Speaker 4: What was your experience on Bowfinger?

526
00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:41,000
Speaker 2: One of the most I mean, such an iconic film,

527
00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:46,439
Speaker 2: such an incredible cast. Steve Martin, Eddie Murphy like at

528
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:50,080
Speaker 2: that time in his career, was sick. You must have

529
00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:52,360
Speaker 2: been amped, because I'm sure you grew up in Eddie Murphy, Fann.

530
00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:54,080
Speaker 2: I'm sure you grew up with Steve Martin, Fanny. When

531
00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,879
Speaker 2: you look back on that, what were your days like

532
00:24:56,880 --> 00:25:00,040
Speaker 2: on that's it? How pumped were you and when? And

533
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,639
Speaker 2: you've been on these sets with these people that you

534
00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 2: grew up loving. Because I still to this day at

535
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,760
Speaker 2: fifty three, like I'm still like oh shit, Like I

536
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:09,880
Speaker 2: can't there's a part of me that's still like, oh shit.

537
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:11,480
Speaker 2: Like I got to work with Steve Martin on Only

538
00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:13,680
Speaker 2: Murders in the Villain, I was like fucking out off him,

539
00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:16,280
Speaker 2: Like I was like, yeah, fucking Steve Morton. But when

540
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:18,399
Speaker 2: you're younger, it's closer to when you were out of

541
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:20,480
Speaker 2: the business. What was your experience like working on that

542
00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:21,439
Speaker 2: film with those people?

543
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:26,160
Speaker 1: Dude, it was icon. It was insane. Think about this, bro.

544
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:29,600
Speaker 3: When I went in for my final audition, it was

545
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:37,359
Speaker 3: Steve Okay, Brian Grazer, and Frank Oz and if you

546
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:39,359
Speaker 3: and Frank Oz is a legend just as a director,

547
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:40,640
Speaker 3: but people don't realize.

548
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:43,480
Speaker 1: He's Yoda, right, He's Fazi Bear right.

549
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:47,159
Speaker 3: And Brian produced you know, billions of movies, you know,

550
00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:49,200
Speaker 3: from a beautiful mind on up, you know what I mean.

551
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:52,679
Speaker 3: So working with Steve was pretty much I was his

552
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:56,359
Speaker 3: assistant on the movie, and so I was like it

553
00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:58,360
Speaker 3: was the greatest like college summer ever.

554
00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:01,200
Speaker 1: I was like literally his you know what I mean.

555
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:02,880
Speaker 3: So I was like Dean, you know what I mean,

556
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:08,359
Speaker 3: Like I was just fucking soaping up everything being with him.

557
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:10,880
Speaker 3: I was every day we would be in a scene together,

558
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:15,560
Speaker 3: we would eat lunch together, and then Eddie would come

559
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,399
Speaker 3: out when we had scenes, and so it was like

560
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:23,280
Speaker 3: being in probably the greatest PhD program of really comedy

561
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:27,080
Speaker 3: and Hollywood. It was like, I'm still can't believe how

562
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 3: blessed that was.

563
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:32,360
Speaker 2: What was the Eddie Murphy process experience like, especially him

564
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:35,240
Speaker 2: doing that character because he was like, you know, this

565
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,120
Speaker 2: nerd and then he would slip, you know, go into

566
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 2: like what we expect from Eddie murphfy, Like what do

567
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:40,720
Speaker 2: you remember of watching him work?

568
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:44,439
Speaker 3: It's just brilliant, basically in a nutshell that some of

569
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:48,080
Speaker 3: the best stuff that you saw is him improvising. So

570
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:50,240
Speaker 3: he would go he would play two characters. He would

571
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 3: play Kit, who was the flamboyant you know, wildcat brother,

572
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:57,880
Speaker 3: and then the nerdy character. And once those braces went on,

573
00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:01,440
Speaker 3: and once those glasses went on, like well, I mean

574
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 3: he just we would just point the camera and just

575
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 3: shoot and he would just go off and it was

576
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:11,479
Speaker 3: just brilliant, dude, brilliant, brilliant, like just insane. Like Steve,

577
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 3: who's brilliant, was also like this is brilliant. I mean

578
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:18,239
Speaker 3: it was just like watching two maestros. But Eddie just

579
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 3: he would come in, kill the scene and then bounce.

580
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, Eddie Murphy, that.

581
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 4: Level of talent is not common.

582
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,879
Speaker 2: I mean, his thing is is brilliant, and it's easy

583
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 2: to say that, but when you're watching it in real life,

584
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:34,600
Speaker 2: you're like, oh shit, dude.

585
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 3: I would just sit there and I would just absorb it.

586
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 3: I would just be like it was just he was

587
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:41,200
Speaker 3: never he just tried.

588
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:42,200
Speaker 1: He would just but.

589
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,679
Speaker 3: He he didn't plain that though. What you mean by tried, well,

590
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 3: you know, really it's never done right. Like the whole

591
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:51,359
Speaker 3: process is a work in progress. You could talk to

592
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:53,679
Speaker 3: any filmmaker and they'll go, oh, I wish I'd changed this,

593
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:56,640
Speaker 3: even when it was a successful movie. This whole thing

594
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:58,920
Speaker 3: that we're doing is a try, you know what I mean.

595
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,920
Speaker 3: We're looking for moments and you can't. It's never gonna

596
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:05,920
Speaker 3: be perfect. So Eddie is brilliant, not because just because

597
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 3: he's so talented and can do so many things, it's

598
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:12,159
Speaker 3: so versatile, but he's fearless. He just goes and he

599
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 3: tries and he trusts in his instrument that is going

600
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 3: to be beautiful, right, and that's what.

601
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 1: He and we're gonna get to the beauty.

602
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:23,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's encouraging because you're just like, okay, just

603
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 3: like I'm not him, I can never be him, but

604
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:28,679
Speaker 3: I can do my own version of trying.

605
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:29,159
Speaker 1: You know.

606
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 3: It's like on stage, you try a joke, hopefully it hits.

607
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 3: If not, I got another one, right. So it's it's

608
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:36,360
Speaker 3: really about trusting your process.

609
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 2: I agree, and also being in an environment where you

610
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 2: can try things because you know you're going back to

611
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 2: you know what it was like, or this director or

612
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 2: that director.

613
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 1: You know.

614
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 2: I think that when you feel trusted, when you feel safe,

615
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 2: when you feel like you can fuck up, or you

616
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 2: can feel like you're you're off rhythm or not getting

617
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 2: it right, but you're not feeling like you're like doing

618
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 2: something wrong, that's when you're at your best to go.

619
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 3: What you're saying is this is think about this. All

620
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:07,720
Speaker 3: the movies you name are made by brilliant minds, right,

621
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 3: and they were the freest sets, and they're the ones

622
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 3: that I've made. I have about nine things I think

623
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 3: on my career throughout the decades that are what I

624
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 3: call pop culture staples. And then the hardest shit I

625
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,240
Speaker 3: ever shot, the shit you never heard of, is like

626
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 3: this ship that I was micromanaged into the fucking dust

627
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 3: and I couldn't have fun.

628
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 2: When you walk on a set at this point, I've

629
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 2: always had this gift and my wife, who I've known

630
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 2: for your shield, validate every single time I've known before

631
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 2: the camera starts, when it's gonna be a piece of shit,

632
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:46,959
Speaker 2: and I'll I fold and I put it on record,

633
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,480
Speaker 2: this is a piece of shit. This is gonna really well,

634
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 2: maybe this is gonna be a piece I'm gonna work,

635
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 2: I'm gonna give it my hole every day, but this

636
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 2: is gonna be a piece of shit.

637
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 3: Why do you do it? Just get a little paycheck?

638
00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 7: No, you don't know, you get you don't know until

639
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 7: you get there because the bullshit and the smoking mirrors

640
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:07,240
Speaker 7: and the talking and the everything.

641
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 2: But when you get there and you start blocking or

642
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 2: you start reading through, you go he's just like, I.

643
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 1: Know, more in TV or more in film.

644
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:22,240
Speaker 2: The times when it was really apparent were films, and

645
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 2: they were the bigger films, and it was like, really,

646
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 2: I've never been in a big, big like where it's

647
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,880
Speaker 2: like all poping, big film where it's big money and.

648
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 4: You know the films that you know, they've been like

649
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 4: the smaller ones.

650
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 2: But when it's like a lot of money and a

651
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 2: lot of to me, it's like from my experiences, I'm

652
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 2: sure there's ones where it goes good, but it's just

653
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 2: a sense it's just kind of a like go over

654
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 2: there kind of thing, and how do you know I

655
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 2: should go over there? Like it's just that kind of

656
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 2: like thing where you're like, go over there, all right, well,

657
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 2: you know, like what we just got here?

658
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 1: Man? Like, what are you talking about? Yeah? One time

659
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 1: I did? I did? You know?

660
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:01,120
Speaker 3: I think for me TV is a little bit more

661
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 3: and I love it, but it's just so micromanaged.

662
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 1: Yes, oh my god, and the butts, the who's dude?

663
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 3: After you do like six of the movies we're talking about,

664
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 3: and then you know, your agents send you, you know,

665
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 3: got you a pilot and you're like, why am I

666
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 3: doing a pilot? And then you realize, you know, because

667
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 3: it's a good gravy train if it worked, and at

668
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 3: the time in late nineties, early two thousands, they want

669
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 3: you to get on that TV. So I do this pilot.

670
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 3: And then I had that moment for you. It was

671
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 3: about the night before taping and each day you know,

672
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 3: they were rewriting and rewriting, and you know they were

673
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 3: doing that thing that we all love to hear, is energy, right,

674
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 3: more energy or faster?

675
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 7: Right?

676
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 1: It's like, what that's not a direction? Right? Right?

677
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 3: So the night before we stayed light really late. They're

678
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 3: rewriting the script. Dude pulls out half a bottle of

679
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 3: fucking I don't know, rum or some shit jack and

680
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 3: pours a little glass.

681
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 1: I'm like, what is that?

682
00:31:57,040 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 3: And he goes funny juice, juice.

683
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 1: You need a little juice, right.

684
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 3: I was like, I took a shot, but he took

685
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 3: a shot. The good news is he took a shot too,

686
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 3: because it gets one of the right funnier ship. But

687
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 3: I'm like, that are pilot's coming down to a fucking glass.

688
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 1: This is where we are.

689
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 3: We're hitting half a shot of j D or whatever.

690
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 3: It was hilarious, that's funny.

691
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 1: But I was, but I'm like, I don't think this

692
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 1: pilot's gonna go now. It's going nowhere.

693
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 2: You know, you know, funny juice, Yeah, you know you

694
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 2: need a little funny.

695
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 1: We got a little little funny juice in here in

696
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 1: the eighties.

697
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 3: You know that was probably a funny bump exactly right,

698
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 3: a funny bump, right. But I mean it's all it's

699
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 3: a try, Yeah, it's a try. I find some of

700
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 3: the best ship we do though, is the unmanaged ship.

701
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 3: You know what I mean, like when it's not up ass.

702
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, speaking of unmanaged, when you did your Jamie,

703
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 2: because when I look at the clips now and again,

704
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 2: I see it mostly on your page when you post

705
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 2: like the Jamie Kennedy experiment, Like, I don't want to

706
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 2: say it was ahead of it.

707
00:32:57,840 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 1: It wasn't ahead of its time.

708
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 2: I want to say it's the first second or but

709
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 2: it was like you were doing some crazy shit.

710
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 1: Do you miss?

711
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 2: First of all, how did that show come about? Jamie

712
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 2: kenny experiment?

713
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 1: Like did it come to you? Did you pitch it?

714
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 3: Back in the day, we had something called holding deals.

715
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 3: I'm sure you grabbed a few of them. Yes, And

716
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 3: they were fucking amazing money and basically would pay you

717
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 3: for a year of your life not to do anything.

718
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 3: So for you had I had to deal with Fox,

719
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 3: and I couldn't do nothing but just meet with Fox people.

720
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 3: So one of the shows I met on was a

721
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 3: was a cartoon pilot called Family Guy went Deep, didn't

722
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 3: get it right, seth h. And then the second one,

723
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 3: I met with a guy by the name of Greg

724
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 3: Daniels and he had a show and then he had

725
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 3: created the Office. So but I met tons of people,

726
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 3: but those are just two that became these, you know, monoliths.

727
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 3: So you meet with everybody on the lot, you try

728
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 3: to do some shit, You do guest spots and did

729
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 3: a couple of guest spots on shows and then at

730
00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 3: the end of the year, nothing happened. W He then

731
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 3: gave me another deal for the next year.

732
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 1: Did it.

733
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 3: At the end of my deal, they extended it for

734
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 3: three more months and they said, you know, we like you.

735
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 3: There's something here and I just basically long story born

736
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 3: as an audition for SNL twice never got it. Had two

737
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 3: sides of me. People knew me from movies and just

738
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 3: kind of acting. And then I had all these characters

739
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:25,760
Speaker 3: from stand up. Met with the creators of Mad TV

740
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 3: at the last minute. It was an eleventh hour play.

741
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 3: They came up with some stuff. I did, my characters.

742
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 3: We put it together. They said to Jamie kinn experiment.

743
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 3: We pitched it to Jordan, He's like, I love it.

744
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 3: He was a young beautiful and Susanne Daniels, who is

745
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:43,799
Speaker 3: Greg's wife, they both ran the network. They said, we

746
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:48,240
Speaker 3: just loved this idea pilot. As we shot the pilot,

747
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 3: they're like, we love it.

748
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 1: And they went they didn't give us nine. They gave

749
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 1: us seven.

750
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:54,800
Speaker 3: So but it was enough and we were made outside

751
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 3: of the box, kind of like this alternative programming tons

752
00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 3: of I mean, I have to tell you ten hours

753
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 3: of development and back and forth, but eventually we got

754
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:05,719
Speaker 3: it because it was so weird. They didn't know what

755
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:07,759
Speaker 3: it was, but they just loved it. And it was

756
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 3: really because of creative executives and a president who would

757
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 3: see me.

758
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:15,279
Speaker 2: He would see me at the laugh Factory doing comedy. Yes,

759
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 2: a lot of people don't know that you started as

760
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 2: a comic.

761
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 3: As a comic, yes, and an extra. And he would say,

762
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 3: you're the funniest when you bomb. Ah.

763
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 1: This is another example of tries right. So I would bomb.

764
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:32,280
Speaker 3: I remember any Dick went up and killed and Sarah's

765
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 3: oberman killed, and I went up and did this character,

766
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 3: and I just ate Dick and I was so mad

767
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,319
Speaker 3: and I would react and he goes, you're hilarious because

768
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 3: you get so mad when you bomb, and then it

769
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 3: becomes really funny. So he, because I bombed in a

770
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 3: funny way, liked me. And then when he was a

771
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:49,759
Speaker 3: junior executive, when he became the president network, that's how

772
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:50,359
Speaker 3: I got a deal.

773
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:51,800
Speaker 1: Was this before Screamer?

774
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 3: After Scream I was bombing much before scream Then I

775
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:57,760
Speaker 3: had about five years and he moved up the executive

776
00:35:57,840 --> 00:35:59,799
Speaker 3: ranks to president and I moved up to you know,

777
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 3: coming known thing.

778
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 1: But you had done screaming then, Jamie Kinny Experiment.

779
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, all I did about five years of movies, okay,

780
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:08,719
Speaker 3: and then I was like really close and I was

781
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 3: up for this movie called Mission the Mars and I

782
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:13,359
Speaker 3: was so mad. I was like, I really wanted that

783
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 3: movie and I didn't get it. What was that movie

784
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 3: that was a big briand to Palmel movie Jerry O'Connell,

785
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:21,399
Speaker 3: Val Kilmer, Val Kilmer and yeah, Tom Sizemore, I think

786
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 3: Tom god Rest the Soul and a Bam dude. And

787
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 3: then I was like because that was like I was

788
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:29,360
Speaker 3: always you know you how you are a cop or

789
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 3: a drug dealer. I was always like the sidekick, right,

790
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 3: like what women want. I went in like four times

791
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:38,400
Speaker 3: for that. I thought I was gonna get that Furstine.

792
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 1: He's the man.

793
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:40,840
Speaker 3: He got it. So I was always like kind of

794
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 3: standing next to these humongous stars, you know, like Bowfinger

795
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 3: and stuff. So I had about four years of that

796
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:49,759
Speaker 3: and then it's just I stopped getting those roles and

797
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,400
Speaker 3: so the Maiden is like TV. So Jamie kin Experiment.

798
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:53,880
Speaker 3: After all that, how many years did you do?

799
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 2: Jamie Kinny Experiment, three and explain to the viewers or

800
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 2: explain to me.

801
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 4: Also, you're like in the wild.

802
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 2: This is before cell phones, this is before everything, like

803
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 2: this is when you could do shit like that. Yea,

804
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 2: Like now it's you know, Eric Andre killed it with

805
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 2: his movie.

806
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 1: Did you see it? I heard It's amazing.

807
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 2: You know he bugged it's bugged out, especially in this

808
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 2: day and age that and he's a famous person.

809
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like it's good. But would you call it a

810
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 1: prank show?

811
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 4: Like what would you how would you describe it?

812
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 1: Dude?

813
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 3: I call a psychological experiment to me. To me, it

814
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:28,360
Speaker 3: was always a mix between cannon camera. Alan font was

815
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:31,320
Speaker 3: a hero and Eddie Murphy was mother hero. So it

816
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 3: was like doing Eddie Murphy type of characters in the wild.

817
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,400
Speaker 3: So people really believed it. And of course I thought

818
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 3: the town would like it because they would go, oh,

819
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 3: he's a good actor, right, because he put on prosthetics

820
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:47,239
Speaker 3: and stuff. But the tallenges would say, I like your

821
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 3: little prank show. It's really funny, But there's a whole story.

822
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 3: I have it because Nicole.

823
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 4: Social media would have served that show really well.

824
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 1: Dude, you're telling me.

825
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:58,439
Speaker 2: Social if we had social media would have served that show. Really,

826
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 2: I just it would have really served we Obviously we

827
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 2: didn't have that.

828
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:03,879
Speaker 3: I can't say it now, but dude, people would pass

829
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 3: around the tapes. They would literally record the tape and

830
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 3: pass That's where we were, right.

831
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 1: So I remember when Nicole Kidman won for Cole Mountain.

832
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 3: I'm like, that's the same prosthetic nose I wear. But

833
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 3: since it's a drama, she gots it. But since I'm.

834
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 1: Doing a like, I'm like, because.

835
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:27,840
Speaker 3: Because it's funny, people don't take it seriously, right, which

836
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 3: is a whole deeper conversation. We could talk to your stepfather,

837
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 3: which first Mark told me that back in the day,

838
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 3: how we should have our own category.

839
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:38,320
Speaker 1: So to do the show though, dude, because on movies

840
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:38,840
Speaker 1: I tell.

841
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 3: People this and you know this, it's like we're getting

842
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:44,279
Speaker 3: picked up, We're doing a town car, We're doing you know,

843
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:47,279
Speaker 3: you're doing a press in like Paris, you're living, You're

844
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 3: at the Four Seasons, you're living, right, we don't have

845
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:52,759
Speaker 3: to think the first episode we do with the Jimi

846
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 3: Kanks permit, I knew it was gonna be great creatively,

847
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:58,800
Speaker 3: but I'm literally hiding in a closet with a fake nose,

848
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:03,279
Speaker 3: with a on in some fucking tight ass wardrobe with

849
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:05,759
Speaker 3: a weird prop and there's a real lady out there,

850
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:09,840
Speaker 3: and I'm in Glendale and I'm like, this ain't the

851
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 3: movie business anymore.

852
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 1: And I'm like I'm done.

853
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 3: I'm a fucking I'm a loser, and I'm like, this

854
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 3: has gotta work.

855
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 1: So I go out.

856
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 3: We do the first prank and it fucking goes crazy.

857
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:24,439
Speaker 3: It was fucking I could hear the producers just dying

858
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 3: laughing in my ear. And once we did that, it

859
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:30,360
Speaker 3: was just on and it became a different thing. But

860
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:32,440
Speaker 3: I had to get used to it not being a movie.

861
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 3: I had to get used to this being this wild

862
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:36,400
Speaker 3: sketch show in the wild.

863
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that's not just doing TV.

864
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 1: No, that's not.

865
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 2: And it's also I mean it could have been a movie,

866
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:44,279
Speaker 2: but that's a different kind of it was performing. I

867
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:47,880
Speaker 2: never know, you're scared, and you're so you're a compassionate person,

868
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 2: and you're like, you know, because I felt bad, I

869
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 2: couldn't do it.

870
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be able to do it. I wouldn't. I

871
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:56,880
Speaker 1: don't think i'd why you would break No, I just would.

872
00:39:58,040 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 1: I mean I would be able to do it. To

873
00:39:59,200 --> 00:39:59,799
Speaker 1: a certain point.

874
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 2: But I feel like because you're tricking people in a way,

875
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 2: you know what, like, and that would And as much

876
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 2: as it's like I'm hard and you know, I talk

877
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 2: my ship like, I would bug out off of that,

878
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:11,280
Speaker 2: Like I think I could do it in certain circuss

879
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 2: but like when you're saying a woman you're in Glenda,

880
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 2: I'm like, what do you what did you.

881
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 1: Do to her? Fire? Hard attick?

882
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:22,279
Speaker 3: My ship was always sweet, but like you would get

883
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 3: exactly like I never wanted to be mean.

884
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:25,919
Speaker 1: I don't think I was ever mean, right.

885
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:31,399
Speaker 3: My whole thing was do a character that was cool, right,

886
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 3: so that was really believable, have a scenario that was crazy,

887
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 3: and then have a mark that was really gullible. So

888
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 3: I did one called jaw Man. I don't even know

889
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:41,399
Speaker 3: if you remember that, So this is exactly what you're

890
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 3: talking about. You and I would do this whole interview

891
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 3: with him and they were like, he just had some

892
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 3: jaw surgery, but don't mind. And then I was like,

893
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 3: and it was like long story board, you have to

894
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 3: watch it, but I'm drooling and all this shit, and

895
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 3: the lady was so sweet, and they're like, so you're

896
00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:59,319
Speaker 3: gonna be taking notes and then and then I was

897
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 3: giving her thing.

898
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 1: And I was like, do you dictate?

899
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 3: And she's like, I'm sorry, I can't understand it. And

900
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 3: then she started getting sad and then I was like no, no, no.

901
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 3: So we got the bid and then we were like

902
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:13,759
Speaker 3: it's okay, it's okay. But she felt bad for me.

903
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:16,359
Speaker 3: So that was like what you say when people feel bad.

904
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:19,759
Speaker 3: But I was never fucking mean, I hope not a

905
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 3: golf guy. That's another story. Threw a putter at me.

906
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:24,319
Speaker 3: That was the angrist one, the angriest one of all

907
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:26,880
Speaker 3: time was a golfer. Who are the angry fucking people?

908
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:31,799
Speaker 3: So we do that show and it was just a

909
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 3: wild time. But once we did this playback on Friday nights,

910
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 3: we would have the playback for the studio audience and

911
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:40,759
Speaker 3: that's when we would see if all the last were

912
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 3: real and then we see if the bits worked. And

913
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 3: once the first weekend happened, it was fucking insane. The

914
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 3: playback was incredible. The audience loved it. We went to Morton's.

915
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 3: We would get that back room in Burbanks day fucking

916
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:59,840
Speaker 3: all night, multiple bottles, and it was just a beautiful juice.

917
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 1: And it was just a beautiful time to be alive, right, right.

918
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 1: They would send me to Vegas.

919
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 3: I would go to babies, remember babies, Yes, And I

920
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:09,400
Speaker 3: would just do promotion giveaways.

921
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 1: I'd go to the pool. I would go to the

922
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:11,800
Speaker 1: palms pool.

923
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 3: I'll go to the heart it was. I'd go to

924
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:14,800
Speaker 3: fucking Fort Lauderdale.

925
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 1: I would go to spring break. It was a time, right,

926
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 1: and it was.

927
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 3: But it was a great time, and it introduced me

928
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 3: as a comedic person. Before I was just an actor,

929
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 3: but then I was at that time and you were

930
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 3: doing it too. I was trying to become a funny entity.

931
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:32,279
Speaker 3: And it's like, if it worked, then you get your

932
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 3: ten million dollar movies and roll them over.

933
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 1: Uh huh. How conscious were you?

934
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 2: You know one thing that I wasn't conscious of, Man,

935
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 2: I wasn't really conscious. I didn't get conscious of this.

936
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 2: It's so late to be and I'm being totally honest

937
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 2: of commodity.

938
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 7: You know.

939
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:47,279
Speaker 1: I always wanted my money.

940
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:50,279
Speaker 2: But I never looked at myself as like, this is

941
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 2: gonna do this this year, and this is gonna do that.

942
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:54,239
Speaker 2: I didn't think that way, and it was an any

943
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 2: I didn't have the people that were sort of sort of,

944
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 2: and if they did, I'd be like, I'm just trying

945
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 2: to be real, you know, I didn't look at.

946
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 1: My despian mode.

947
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, well yeah, like in New York, you know,

948
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 3: you kept a gully, yeah, gangster.

949
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 2: But even in my thing, it was like, you know,

950
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:11,880
Speaker 2: it goes almost like a rapper mentality, you know, like

951
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:14,800
Speaker 2: I wasn't like in a business mentality. But how conscious

952
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:18,320
Speaker 2: were you of yourself as a commodity and the business

953
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:20,840
Speaker 2: of Jamie Kennedy and the business of being an actor,

954
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:22,840
Speaker 2: and or when did you get conscious of it?

955
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 1: At what age or what point?

956
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:26,239
Speaker 2: It sounds like you were probably a little bit more

957
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:27,719
Speaker 2: conscious of it earlier than I was.

958
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 3: Well, I would say I started getting in the movies.

959
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:33,720
Speaker 3: I mean, my first movie ever was Romeo and Juliet,

960
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:36,239
Speaker 3: which was an insane intro. Before that, I just did

961
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:39,360
Speaker 3: some guest spots and it did commercials. So then I

962
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:43,360
Speaker 3: remember when I started getting in the business, the whole

963
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:46,880
Speaker 3: thing was was a movie going to make a hundred million, right,

964
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:50,719
Speaker 3: And the second movie I ever did was Scream And

965
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:53,720
Speaker 3: then the third movie was Screamed too. So every movie

966
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:55,759
Speaker 3: I was doing an Enemy of the State and both

967
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 3: finger so I was in a string of like five

968
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:01,839
Speaker 3: or six million dollar movies. So it's something. But now

969
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 3: I'm not I'm not the lead. Leo's the lead or

970
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 3: George Kloon's the lead on Mark's the lead.

971
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:09,719
Speaker 1: But I was like part of these.

972
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:13,240
Speaker 3: I got an amazing ride along, right, So then I'm like, okay,

973
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 3: so let's keep this moving. So I wanted to try

974
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:17,839
Speaker 3: to get my indie. You know, you get your son

975
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 3: dance roll. I did a couple of those indies that

976
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:23,439
Speaker 3: didn't go like La Film first Monitor.

977
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 1: I remember that, but for a.

978
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 3: Minute, that was like a spot where you could kind

979
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:29,319
Speaker 3: of and they those didn't really pop. So then my

980
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 3: agents were like, you gotta do TV. And like I said,

981
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:35,879
Speaker 3: so I had these development deals. They're like, you're funny,

982
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 3: you should blow up as a comedian like in movies

983
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:43,440
Speaker 3: and TV, and then you're gonna be able to call

984
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 3: your shots for something gotcha dramatic. So I would say

985
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 3: probably two thy ninety nine.

986
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 2: You where you started putting like looking at it, cause

987
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:52,759
Speaker 2: when you're young. How old were you when when you

988
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 2: did Romeo and Juliet twenty five? Shit, yeah, we're so

989
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 2: fucking young and so stupid, I know.

990
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 1: I mean I was like, dude, I mean they look

991
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 1: at all. It was just I was literally.

992
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 3: Just you're tripping because you're like, yeah, well Leo was

993
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 3: about to become Leo.

994
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 1: Leg Wasama was one of my idols. You know.

995
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 3: Paul Rodd was just popping, but you know he's gonna Dash,

996
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 3: I mean, so I was like I would always hang

997
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 3: with Dash and he kind of like trained me on

998
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:17,319
Speaker 3: like what's house set is?

999
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:17,919
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.

1000
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 3: So it was I'm just happy to be there. For

1001
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:23,240
Speaker 3: the first four or five years, I got you're happy

1002
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 3: to me. I got you you're standing in a room

1003
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 3: with Will Smith, you know what I mean. So once

1004
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 3: I started realizing and people started saying you're funny, and

1005
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:32,800
Speaker 3: I started seeing the feedback, and you go to screenings

1006
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:34,319
Speaker 3: and your man's Chinese and your a movie thing.

1007
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 1: You hear a laugh, you know, you all changes.

1008
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 3: So yeah, I thought, you know, my agents had Will

1009
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:41,359
Speaker 3: Ferrell and so I was like, okay, they had all

1010
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:42,360
Speaker 3: different funny people.

1011
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 1: So I was like, okay, I could do.

1012
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 3: At the time, people don't remember this, my agent had

1013
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:53,360
Speaker 3: Matt Listeners, he had mal LeBlanc, George Lopez, Will Ferrell, me,

1014
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:57,839
Speaker 3: David Cross and Chappelle. Wow, probably more. That's just off

1015
00:45:57,880 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 3: the top of my head. And people don't remember the

1016
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 3: Chappelle was doing a fuck to the movies. He was

1017
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:05,920
Speaker 3: doing Blue Streak, he was doing Nunny Professor, he was

1018
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:07,280
Speaker 3: doing so many movies.

1019
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 1: And that's that was our thing, right.

1020
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 3: We were like, yeah, you're doing comedy, but really you

1021
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 3: got to blow up in the movie, right, So it

1022
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:17,440
Speaker 3: was we were all our lane was at eight to

1023
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:20,720
Speaker 3: ten million dollars Robert Simon's get in one of those movies,

1024
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 3: make a hit, do another one, Roll It Over podcast.

1025
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 2: You said you auditioned for SNL twice. What was that

1026
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:49,839
Speaker 2: process like? Was it as weird as everybody says? And

1027
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:53,160
Speaker 2: what was your highlight and low light of that time

1028
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 2: doing it? And does your audition tape live somewhere you

1029
00:46:57,680 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 2: have it because you see like pop, you know, like

1030
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:01,759
Speaker 2: you know this person will be like, you know, like

1031
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 2: audition tape beauty first time in life.

1032
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 1: So talk to me about those experiences.

1033
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:09,399
Speaker 3: Like I said, I was doing a ton of stand up,

1034
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:13,840
Speaker 3: wasn't getting anywhere, and then I was doing you know,

1035
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 3: I started getting commercials in some guest boss so but

1036
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:18,239
Speaker 3: I had enough characters.

1037
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:21,400
Speaker 1: You go, you meet Lauren Michaels.

1038
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:23,560
Speaker 3: He has a deal on the lot and you go

1039
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 3: on a lot, which lot paramount and they have that

1040
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 3: whole Broadway video and so they say, you know, you

1041
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:33,439
Speaker 3: may wait a little bit when you go to meet him.

1042
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 3: You wait, you know what I mean, he's got a

1043
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:37,319
Speaker 3: lot going on. So I think I got there at

1044
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 3: like one, and I probably waited till like six.

1045
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 1: Shit, that's a long time. Yeah, there's no cell phone.

1046
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 3: No, it was ninety four shit, And he was he

1047
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:52,360
Speaker 3: comes at the end, I'll try to do the impression.

1048
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 3: And he literally had gone in and out all day

1049
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:56,480
Speaker 3: doing different meetings.

1050
00:47:56,480 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 1: Is there other people audition? No, nobody was audition that

1051
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 1: I know of. It was.

1052
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:06,359
Speaker 3: This was just the original meeting. And so he had

1053
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:08,680
Speaker 3: productions going on and all the different things. And then

1054
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:10,799
Speaker 3: he came out like at the end of the day

1055
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:13,239
Speaker 3: and he goes, I'll try to do him what He's like.

1056
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:16,440
Speaker 1: I hear you do a lot of characters.

1057
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 3: And I was like yeah, and he goes, would you

1058
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 3: like to go to New York?

1059
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:23,359
Speaker 1: Bam? And that was it. That's what you waited five

1060
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 1: hours for. You got a wait? You got away, bro,

1061
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 1: you're twenty three years old.

1062
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 3: You gotta wait so that I go in and I

1063
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:37,800
Speaker 3: go to I want to say Gotham or the Seller,

1064
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 3: one of them.

1065
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:41,360
Speaker 1: I auditioned. I do a bunch of different characters.

1066
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:42,919
Speaker 3: But it was in a comedy club, which was cool

1067
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 3: because I thought, okay, I didn't do Groundings, but I

1068
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:47,800
Speaker 3: knew Sandler popped off of comedy. Obviously, Eddie was always

1069
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:51,360
Speaker 3: a comedian, but at that time they were taking more

1070
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:56,760
Speaker 3: comedians just as many as Groundings had a pretty good set.

1071
00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:58,919
Speaker 3: Wasn't killer, but wasn't bad.

1072
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:01,359
Speaker 1: Is there a crowd there? Yeah? Or it's not an

1073
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 1: empty room.

1074
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:04,240
Speaker 2: No, it's like you see some Okay, so you're doing okay,

1075
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:07,799
Speaker 2: So you're doing your Saturday Life audition. Yeah, it's a

1076
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:10,439
Speaker 2: stand up as a stand up. Yes, and you're doing

1077
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:12,920
Speaker 2: straight up characters. There's not no crowd work.

1078
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:15,880
Speaker 3: No, no, no, you got like six minutes and so

1079
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 3: I'm just doing from character to fact. They're like, this

1080
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 3: is blah blah something you know, this is blah blah.

1081
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 3: And I didn't have a I did it pretty good,

1082
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:25,480
Speaker 3: but I didn't kill, but I didn't die.

1083
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:28,360
Speaker 1: But I know that he has always been able to

1084
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:28,920
Speaker 1: look at you.

1085
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:34,080
Speaker 3: I've heard and mold you, and Molly Shannon was there

1086
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:40,400
Speaker 3: and she killed and then before I get on the plane,

1087
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 3: which was like, my managers like, I don't want to

1088
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 3: ruin your plane ride, but it's not going any further.

1089
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 1: And I was like why and I'm like.

1090
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:50,720
Speaker 3: They said, you don't do enough political impressions and I said,

1091
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:51,839
Speaker 3: but I was twenty three.

1092
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 1: I didn't even know what politics was.

1093
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 3: I was like, tell me who to do you want

1094
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:56,399
Speaker 3: me to do like Dick Cheney or what He wasn't

1095
00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:57,840
Speaker 3: even around them, and he want me to do fucking,

1096
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:01,319
Speaker 3: you know, fucking Bush Like I was day this thing right?

1097
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 3: So I fly back to New York.

1098
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:06,719
Speaker 1: I must have spin a shitty flight. Oh bro, this

1099
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:09,360
Speaker 1: we only first class, like one of my first first class.

1100
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 1: And then that was it.

1101
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:14,839
Speaker 3: I had a good agent and then I didn't. I

1102
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:17,919
Speaker 3: was like buma. And then I talked on Molly and

1103
00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:21,200
Speaker 3: Molly didn't get it either, and I was like, wow,

1104
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:24,560
Speaker 3: this is wild, like she killed it too, and I

1105
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:27,360
Speaker 3: had no idea what to do, and my manager, Pam Thomas,

1106
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 3: was like, well, you just you gotta start auditioning. So

1107
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 3: I remember standing in front of the comedy store was

1108
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:34,759
Speaker 3: nineteen ninety four. It was like this summer of ninety four,

1109
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 3: I was not in there at all. I would do

1110
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 3: like potluck and I would get those please allow because

1111
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:44,799
Speaker 3: I was becoming a known in town. So I'd get

1112
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:47,879
Speaker 3: like a five minute and I just stood out there

1113
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:50,360
Speaker 3: and I was like, literally, you know that corner And

1114
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:51,759
Speaker 3: I was like, what am I gonna do? Why am

1115
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 3: I doing stand up? Because I didn't really want to

1116
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:56,080
Speaker 3: be a comedian, I used it as a showcase and

1117
00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:57,719
Speaker 3: I'm like, what the fuck am I going to do?

1118
00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 1: And then I started aut thish.

1119
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:03,920
Speaker 3: Somehow I got APA, I got a PA and they

1120
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 3: were like, we're gonna send you on an audition, so

1121
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 3: they did. And one of the first things I ever got,

1122
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:12,399
Speaker 3: God bless him is stan Lathan gave me a role

1123
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:16,560
Speaker 3: in his HBO pilot called The Corner, and it was

1124
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 3: he gave me one of my earliest breaks. And that

1125
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:22,920
Speaker 3: was because he had saw me at the store and

1126
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:25,839
Speaker 3: doing a five minute spot and he said he brought

1127
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:26,080
Speaker 3: me in.

1128
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:29,920
Speaker 4: You are still doing stand up? Where's your head at

1129
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:30,320
Speaker 4: with standam?

1130
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:30,480
Speaker 3: Now?

1131
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 1: Do you love it? Do you like you know?

1132
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 3: Doing weekends? And Molly got it the next year by

1133
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:37,920
Speaker 3: the way she could. She might when she came off.

1134
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1135
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 2: You, Like I said earlier, you encouraged me to, were like, Yo,

1136
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 2: you should do it, You'll have fun, you'll be great.

1137
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:46,400
Speaker 3: But I wait to go back to you, dude. People

1138
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:49,239
Speaker 3: don't realize that you kind of started as.

1139
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:51,040
Speaker 1: A stand up too. I did start as at People

1140
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:51,920
Speaker 1: don't realize.

1141
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:54,399
Speaker 3: That when I would walk in the improv, I would

1142
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:57,800
Speaker 3: fucking sign up and do those Mondays like I'm talking

1143
00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:02,279
Speaker 3: ninety ninety one. Yeah, and you were up there and

1144
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:05,280
Speaker 3: I was just starting. Yeah, but you were always around.

1145
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:07,640
Speaker 1: Yeah. I was always around. Then when you got zebra Head,

1146
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:10,239
Speaker 1: Everyone's like, yo, Mike just got zebra.

1147
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 3: And it was like and it was gone. It was like, yo,

1148
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:14,879
Speaker 3: you became like a fucking legit actor. Yeah.

1149
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:15,200
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1150
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:17,880
Speaker 3: So but you started as a stand up. Yes, I

1151
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:19,359
Speaker 3: didn't know that. You didn't keep doing it.

1152
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 4: I didn't keep doing it.

1153
00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:24,160
Speaker 2: And because I fell so deeply in love with acting

1154
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:29,480
Speaker 2: and it just came so easy to me, Like it's

1155
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 2: like the I didn't think about being an actor until

1156
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:33,400
Speaker 2: I like I got called in for an audition and.

1157
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:35,359
Speaker 1: I was like, this is what I'm gonna do, you know.

1158
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:36,879
Speaker 4: Because I grew up wanting to be a basketball player.

1159
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:39,480
Speaker 2: And this is you know shit I talk about all

1160
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 2: the time of my pockets whatever.

1161
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 1: But I wanted to be a basketball player. I knew

1162
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:43,320
Speaker 1: I was going to be a basketball player.

1163
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:47,120
Speaker 2: Like at fifteen sixteen, I was fucking around whatever. I

1164
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:50,480
Speaker 2: started doing stand up and I enjoyed it, but I

1165
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:52,840
Speaker 2: didn't it didn't come naturally. I didn't like the discipline

1166
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:55,239
Speaker 2: of it. I didn't like the repetitiveness of it. And

1167
00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:57,839
Speaker 2: then like the first audition I ever went, I was like,

1168
00:52:57,880 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 2: this is what I'm gonna do. I was like, it

1169
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:02,239
Speaker 2: was just like not to say, a beautiful mind, but

1170
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 2: I was like, this is what I'm fucking doing. I'm

1171
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:06,920
Speaker 2: doing this. There ain't no way I'm not doing this.

1172
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 2: I'm getting this fucking part. And you know it just

1173
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:11,160
Speaker 2: it made sense to me, you know what I mean.

1174
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:13,960
Speaker 2: And then I you know, just started you know, acting,

1175
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:17,719
Speaker 2: and now I love stand up now because of all

1176
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:20,759
Speaker 2: the things that we talked about in this interview in

1177
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:24,400
Speaker 2: this podcast that we don't like about being an actor,

1178
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 2: the constraints, the you know, when you're a stand up

1179
00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:31,760
Speaker 2: you're the actor, You're the director, You're you're the lighting person,

1180
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:35,840
Speaker 2: you're the editor, you're the wardrobe, you're everything. It's complete freedom.

1181
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:40,000
Speaker 2: Good bad, are indifferent, and it's also still a challenge

1182
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:42,279
Speaker 2: for me. And it's also you know, like such like

1183
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 2: an open playing field because as long as you're living,

1184
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:49,359
Speaker 2: there's things to talk about on stage. And I love

1185
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:52,760
Speaker 2: that aspect of it. I don't love the fifth show

1186
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:55,360
Speaker 2: of a weekend because you're like, did I say that already?

1187
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:55,560
Speaker 1: You know?

1188
00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 2: You're just like and I don't have you know, enough

1189
00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 2: material or the skill set to, you know, at the

1190
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:04,360
Speaker 2: fifth show to be like, I'm just gonna do something

1191
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:05,959
Speaker 2: totally different for this fucking hour.

1192
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 3: But every you don't do this. You don't do a

1193
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:09,319
Speaker 3: different hour every hour, do you?

1194
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:12,080
Speaker 1: Hell no? Yeah? So you do your hour? Yeah, or

1195
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:13,040
Speaker 1: you do mix it up.

1196
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:14,880
Speaker 2: I mix it up and I play around, you know

1197
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:17,239
Speaker 2: what I'm talking about When it's like you're like, did

1198
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 2: I say? Did I did I?

1199
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:19,360
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1200
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 2: Because you've done it. But like, what do you like

1201
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:24,560
Speaker 2: about stand up on the road? Because doing fifteen minutes

1202
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:28,480
Speaker 2: in town that's total freedom? Yeah, well except.

1203
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:29,680
Speaker 4: For because now everything's on blast?

1204
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:32,040
Speaker 1: Don't don't you have everything everything?

1205
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:34,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's weird. You can't work it out because you're

1206
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 3: being docus, not at the big show, not at you know,

1207
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:40,520
Speaker 3: because I gotta go to show with you and Harlan

1208
00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:43,160
Speaker 3: and Liza and Whitney. It's like the guns are.

1209
00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:46,080
Speaker 2: They're like, Luis c K, I know what the fuck

1210
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:48,160
Speaker 2: is going on here? Like people are coming, they want

1211
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:48,759
Speaker 2: to see a show.

1212
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:49,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know.

1213
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:51,440
Speaker 3: It's like you want to work out, but you're literally

1214
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:53,400
Speaker 3: doing you know, John Mulaney, you know what I mean.

1215
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:56,080
Speaker 2: At the other night, it's like John Mlaney, Uh you

1216
00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:58,279
Speaker 2: know Eliza Slessinger, Yeah, fucking this.

1217
00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:02,200
Speaker 1: I'm like you PIVN what ship? Yeah.

1218
00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:05,200
Speaker 3: And that's a compliment because we literally have to be

1219
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:06,879
Speaker 3: tight because that's like.

1220
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:09,759
Speaker 1: I'm on a Tuesday night with Louis c K. What

1221
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:10,520
Speaker 1: is that?

1222
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 2: That's not it shouldn't be publicized. Just come to get

1223
00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:17,080
Speaker 2: properly the laugh Actor Comedy Store. You're gonna get a

1224
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:19,400
Speaker 2: good show. But when it's like people come in to see.

1225
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:22,560
Speaker 3: A show, yeah, no, and it And what's crazy is

1226
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:25,719
Speaker 3: when you were not in the game, it was you

1227
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:30,719
Speaker 3: did one club. There was like the Fivictoms. Now, I

1228
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:33,760
Speaker 3: mean a couple of weeks ago, I did Improv Factory Store.

1229
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:35,839
Speaker 3: Every show was sold out. It was one of these

1230
00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:39,719
Speaker 3: like Avenger lineups, like you're saying, and it's like, you

1231
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:42,279
Speaker 3: gotta be on right, so you can't just work it out.

1232
00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:44,000
Speaker 4: Where do you work your sit out here now? And

1233
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:45,080
Speaker 4: where do you work out now?

1234
00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:47,160
Speaker 2: Like I mean when I work, if I work it

1235
00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:49,080
Speaker 2: out out, I mean when I'm saying it to I

1236
00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:51,799
Speaker 2: mean like practice. He's saying, practice, new ship. Yeah for

1237
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:52,919
Speaker 2: the very first time.

1238
00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:56,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know you can do it in the lab,

1239
00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:58,880
Speaker 3: which is good, but even those shows are passed like

1240
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:00,959
Speaker 3: and they're like Adam Sam in the what the fuck

1241
00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:01,680
Speaker 3: is going on here?

1242
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:01,920
Speaker 1: Yo?

1243
00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:05,319
Speaker 3: The belly room? But even those shows are packed. Uh

1244
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:07,839
Speaker 3: really ha ha. You can sneak at the Ha Hall

1245
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:10,960
Speaker 3: late at night and get some reps in ice house.

1246
00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:13,200
Speaker 3: But let me go back to what you were saying

1247
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:16,759
Speaker 3: about stand up totally different from me than it ever

1248
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:21,280
Speaker 3: was because it used to be become known.

1249
00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:23,920
Speaker 1: Right, here's the perfect thing is become known as a.

1250
00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:29,480
Speaker 3: Stand up, headline clubs, get a TV deal, become a

1251
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:32,959
Speaker 3: sitcom star, get a movie, become a movie star.

1252
00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:34,200
Speaker 1: It's a rap.

1253
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:42,320
Speaker 3: And then and like twenty fourteen, everything was everything I saw. Literally,

1254
00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:46,279
Speaker 3: people like Kevin Hart was like starring in Husbands of

1255
00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:50,080
Speaker 3: Hollywood had one hundred million dollar movie, and I saw

1256
00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:53,200
Speaker 3: that he did the Weekend at Flappers, and I'm like,

1257
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:57,400
Speaker 3: this dude, he literally like was like everywhere. And I'm like,

1258
00:56:57,440 --> 00:57:00,400
Speaker 3: you just played like Madison Square Garden and something happened

1259
00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:04,640
Speaker 3: where you just worked Like social media, there was a

1260
00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:06,160
Speaker 3: thing where you would do a certain level and you

1261
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:09,280
Speaker 3: didn't go back, and then something happened with social media

1262
00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:13,600
Speaker 3: where you started just going everywhere. Right, Like that's how

1263
00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:16,720
Speaker 3: you have these lineups. Like for ticket sales, those lineups

1264
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:19,720
Speaker 3: don't need to exist, meaning we all those people you're

1265
00:57:19,720 --> 00:57:22,000
Speaker 3: talking about could sell two thousand, most of them two

1266
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:24,320
Speaker 3: thousand tickets or more a night, Right, they don't need

1267
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:26,840
Speaker 3: to go and do a two hundred seater with you know,

1268
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:29,560
Speaker 3: and only do fifteen minutes. They're going to practice too, Yeah,

1269
00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:31,880
Speaker 3: but it's hard. But I think it's hard to practice

1270
00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:33,760
Speaker 3: because I think we all have to. For me, I

1271
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:36,000
Speaker 3: want to do good because yeah, we come around these

1272
00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:37,120
Speaker 3: amazing people.

1273
00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:38,320
Speaker 1: You don't want to suck with.

1274
00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:40,360
Speaker 2: Like I'm like, Luis cy K is like going on

1275
00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:42,480
Speaker 2: after me, Like I don't want to drop down. Like

1276
00:57:42,520 --> 00:57:45,520
Speaker 2: I had intentions one night to practice all new shit

1277
00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:48,920
Speaker 2: and I got there and like Loui's going after I'm like, fuck, man,

1278
00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:51,160
Speaker 2: I don't want to because I mean, just because I

1279
00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:54,000
Speaker 2: have reverenced for him, like one night sign Folk, I'm

1280
00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:55,360
Speaker 2: now he just popped in.

1281
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:57,160
Speaker 1: But I'm like, well, what the fuck man?

1282
00:57:57,400 --> 00:57:59,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know. So I remember that we did a

1283
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:01,200
Speaker 3: show in New York. It was me and you, it

1284
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:03,760
Speaker 3: was Chrissy, it was I think Tim Dillon pop.

1285
00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:04,240
Speaker 1: I mean it was.

1286
00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:07,000
Speaker 3: That's just a lot of heavy hitters. So it's a

1287
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:09,840
Speaker 3: good pressure to have. But I feel the pressure, yeah,

1288
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:11,800
Speaker 3: and it takes away. It takes Yeah, I know.

1289
00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:14,880
Speaker 1: Where you want to practice shit, because there's certain you.

1290
00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:18,440
Speaker 3: Have to if you want to practice, go to Flappers,

1291
00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:21,480
Speaker 3: sneaking Flappers on a Monday, anytime you can walk in.

1292
00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:22,400
Speaker 1: I'm sure they'll let you.

1293
00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:24,800
Speaker 3: But going back to what you're saying about the hot

1294
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:29,720
Speaker 3: about stand up more, I think more important than ever,

1295
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:33,160
Speaker 3: and I believe I'm more into it than ever. I

1296
00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:37,920
Speaker 3: only I do it now because it's like it's really

1297
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:40,600
Speaker 3: because it loves me, Like the community is very loving

1298
00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:44,000
Speaker 3: to me. And also I get to say what I want.

1299
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:47,840
Speaker 3: It's more important than ever to do and put the

1300
00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:51,200
Speaker 3: Like what you're doing right now, you know, is like

1301
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:53,479
Speaker 3: you're putting out fucking God's work.

1302
00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:54,520
Speaker 1: I'm serious.

1303
00:58:54,560 --> 00:58:58,040
Speaker 3: You're saying your opinion and believe, whether people believe you

1304
00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:01,320
Speaker 3: are not. You're a fucking gathering your tribe, and this

1305
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:04,160
Speaker 3: is your truth and you're not lying. That's how you believe.

1306
00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:06,840
Speaker 3: And we might believe a lot of same stuff. We

1307
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:09,760
Speaker 3: might believe some different stuff, but you're saying what you

1308
00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:12,560
Speaker 3: want and it's I mean, tell me if I'm wrong.

1309
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:15,680
Speaker 3: But I think it's helpful to the world to share

1310
00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:18,600
Speaker 3: your truth. I agree, And as an actor, as much

1311
00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:21,320
Speaker 3: as I love it, we're just fucking pawns in the game.

1312
00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:27,040
Speaker 3: And with podcasting, with social media, with clips, A, your

1313
00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:29,800
Speaker 3: career can blow up just off a clip, and B

1314
00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:33,360
Speaker 3: it's a way for people to really know you. Yes, yes,

1315
00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:35,320
Speaker 3: so I think it's more important than ever. And you

1316
00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:37,360
Speaker 3: can go to Montana and sell a thousand tickets you

1317
00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:40,680
Speaker 3: didn't even know we're there, and also talk about real shit.

1318
00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:43,400
Speaker 1: You can become your own fucking Carlin.

1319
00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:49,680
Speaker 2: Do you find now because your stuff on YouTube, your

1320
00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:53,760
Speaker 2: stuff on your podcast has leaned into politics. I never

1321
00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:58,800
Speaker 2: gave a shit about politics. Literally, I mean literally, I

1322
00:59:58,840 --> 01:00:02,440
Speaker 2: didn't give a fuck. I mean not zero point zero, bro,

1323
01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:03,880
Speaker 2: I couldn't tell you anything.

1324
01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:06,240
Speaker 1: Bro, you were on the Ones and twos.

1325
01:00:06,640 --> 01:00:09,800
Speaker 3: You were fucking fucking KRS one and I was like

1326
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:13,440
Speaker 3: following you like we were hip hop, we were breakdancing,

1327
01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:16,320
Speaker 3: we were ball That's all it was. That was fun, right,

1328
01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:20,560
Speaker 3: pop bottles get can't say bitches women?

1329
01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:21,720
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Can you say?

1330
01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:22,000
Speaker 3: You know?

1331
01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:25,840
Speaker 1: Have fun? Right? Right? That's what That's what my space

1332
01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:27,080
Speaker 1: was in entertainment.

1333
01:00:27,720 --> 01:00:31,240
Speaker 2: How did your sort of point of view change? Or

1334
01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:33,360
Speaker 2: you get interested in you get frustrated by it.

1335
01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:34,800
Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you, and then I want to hear

1336
01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:37,120
Speaker 3: how you did it? OK, Because, like I tell people,

1337
01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:38,840
Speaker 3: this is a joke. I don't really have it written yet,

1338
01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:41,160
Speaker 3: but I'm like, this is how bad politics is.

1339
01:00:41,800 --> 01:00:42,960
Speaker 1: I'm talking about.

1340
01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:47,360
Speaker 3: It fucking right, Like yo, be read. I should be

1341
01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:50,560
Speaker 3: fucking rapping and Malibu. I should be doing a break dance.

1342
01:00:50,640 --> 01:00:54,400
Speaker 3: Like the fact that I'm talking about it is fucking nuts.

1343
01:00:54,880 --> 01:00:59,360
Speaker 3: I've said something similar, right, No, total bro, like we're

1344
01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:02,160
Speaker 3: fucking that's not I was in.

1345
01:01:02,280 --> 01:01:03,880
Speaker 1: Doctor Doolittle, I you know what I mean.

1346
01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:07,720
Speaker 3: I played a raccoon and you me for your politics

1347
01:01:07,760 --> 01:01:10,920
Speaker 3: like you were in give me one of your funniest movies.

1348
01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:12,360
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. Like, no, I was the

1349
01:01:12,440 --> 01:01:13,439
Speaker 1: Doctor Dolittle too.

1350
01:01:13,520 --> 01:01:18,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, went both to do little. What did you play?

1351
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:21,520
Speaker 3: I think you played a raccoon. I played the dog.

1352
01:01:21,560 --> 01:01:22,479
Speaker 3: I played the stray dog.

1353
01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:23,000
Speaker 1: That's right.

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01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:24,960
Speaker 3: You were you you were in too, Yes, I was

1355
01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:28,160
Speaker 3: a wreck sactly. We're both in Doctor Doolittle and so

1356
01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:32,680
Speaker 3: the So well, here's what happened. I just listen. I

1357
01:01:32,720 --> 01:01:34,360
Speaker 3: don't even want to talk to you about this. I'm

1358
01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:38,880
Speaker 3: gonna go gently you. You whatever you believe, you believe,

1359
01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:41,360
Speaker 3: and whatever I believe, I believe. And the beauty of

1360
01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:44,160
Speaker 3: us is that we can respect each other and still

1361
01:01:44,200 --> 01:01:48,320
Speaker 3: love each other, and we fucking get down. But I

1362
01:01:48,360 --> 01:01:52,120
Speaker 3: think because the biggest thing with me is hypocrisy, and

1363
01:01:52,200 --> 01:01:55,920
Speaker 3: I see a lot of hypocrisy on I don't I

1364
01:01:56,000 --> 01:01:59,920
Speaker 3: never was anything. I wouldn't even care about voting you,

1365
01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:02,080
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like George Carlin didn't vote

1366
01:02:02,080 --> 01:02:04,000
Speaker 3: for the longest time. So I was if you want

1367
01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:06,040
Speaker 3: to say I was anything, I was an independent, you

1368
01:02:06,040 --> 01:02:07,600
Speaker 3: know what I mean. I was like, do what you

1369
01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:10,280
Speaker 3: want in your private life, love who you love. Just

1370
01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:12,280
Speaker 3: let me keep my money, you know what I mean.

1371
01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:15,120
Speaker 3: And if there's policies and to help the homeless. Of

1372
01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:18,040
Speaker 3: course I'll pay into that. I'm very fortunate. But I

1373
01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:23,880
Speaker 3: think when people just I started seeing this crazy hypocrisy

1374
01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:26,960
Speaker 3: and I started going, this is so weird. And then

1375
01:02:27,120 --> 01:02:32,320
Speaker 3: COVID hit and there was a lot of fucking shady shit,

1376
01:02:32,760 --> 01:02:36,520
Speaker 3: and then I started just kind of putting my fucking

1377
01:02:36,520 --> 01:02:38,440
Speaker 3: two cents in there. And people seem.

1378
01:02:38,240 --> 01:02:38,840
Speaker 1: To like it.

1379
01:02:39,160 --> 01:02:41,560
Speaker 3: But I try to say it with the kind of

1380
01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:45,320
Speaker 3: informed mind, like I talk about this, bro Like people

1381
01:02:45,360 --> 01:02:47,320
Speaker 3: hate the term do your own research, they hate the

1382
01:02:47,400 --> 01:02:50,880
Speaker 3: term fucking looking at whatever. But if you're gonna buy

1383
01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:53,640
Speaker 3: a house right now, and you're gonna fucking go over

1384
01:02:53,640 --> 01:02:56,160
Speaker 3: here on Sunset and Librea and you're gonna look for

1385
01:02:56,200 --> 01:02:58,959
Speaker 3: a fucking house, aren't you gonna look at comparables. Aren't

1386
01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:00,760
Speaker 3: you gonna look at the neighborhoo? Aren't you gonna look

1387
01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:03,760
Speaker 3: at the school? You'd be called an informed fucking chopper.

1388
01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:05,840
Speaker 3: Right We do that with a lot of other ship

1389
01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:06,280
Speaker 3: right now.

1390
01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:11,439
Speaker 1: We're called conspiracy theories. So it's like to me, that's

1391
01:03:11,440 --> 01:03:13,480
Speaker 1: what we do. That's all you do all every day

1392
01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:14,680
Speaker 1: is ask questions.

1393
01:03:14,520 --> 01:03:16,320
Speaker 4: Do you con see yourself Republican? What do you con

1394
01:03:16,360 --> 01:03:17,080
Speaker 4: see yourself now.

1395
01:03:17,080 --> 01:03:23,640
Speaker 3: Honestly, dude, I was an independent and now I'm not

1396
01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:28,760
Speaker 3: registered as anything. But I people have put me down

1397
01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:30,040
Speaker 3: as this kind of Republican.

1398
01:03:30,080 --> 01:03:34,040
Speaker 2: Yes, I'm sure on social media you're like like, they're like,

1399
01:03:34,040 --> 01:03:35,160
Speaker 2: you're one of the cool ones.

1400
01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:38,120
Speaker 3: It's like or no, I'm not like they call me

1401
01:03:38,240 --> 01:03:39,640
Speaker 3: like I should live in Florida.

1402
01:03:40,080 --> 01:03:41,120
Speaker 1: I'm right wing.

1403
01:03:41,400 --> 01:03:45,880
Speaker 3: But yo, they've also said this about Russell Brand that's crazy, right.

1404
01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:48,760
Speaker 3: So it's like, yeah, I consider myself an independent, but

1405
01:03:48,800 --> 01:03:51,439
Speaker 3: probably I'm gonna be considered a Republican. But there's ship

1406
01:03:51,520 --> 01:03:53,720
Speaker 3: about Republicans I like, and there's shit about it. I

1407
01:03:53,720 --> 01:03:57,440
Speaker 3: hate just the same with Democrats. Just with liberals too.

1408
01:03:58,320 --> 01:03:58,960
Speaker 3: There's liberals.

1409
01:03:59,000 --> 01:03:59,400
Speaker 1: I love them.

1410
01:03:59,400 --> 01:04:02,720
Speaker 2: The liberals, I'm like, yo, you're nuts.

1411
01:04:03,520 --> 01:04:04,680
Speaker 1: There should be more teams.

1412
01:04:04,840 --> 01:04:07,880
Speaker 2: That's the that's the biggest problem is that there's it's

1413
01:04:07,880 --> 01:04:09,680
Speaker 2: like as if you can only choose the Yankees and

1414
01:04:09,720 --> 01:04:11,360
Speaker 2: the Dodgers and that's it.

1415
01:04:11,800 --> 01:04:12,240
Speaker 1: That's it.

1416
01:04:12,360 --> 01:04:14,200
Speaker 2: You got to pick one of those two teams and

1417
01:04:14,240 --> 01:04:16,120
Speaker 2: there's nowhere else to go, and we could talk to

1418
01:04:16,120 --> 01:04:17,640
Speaker 2: this independent Green party ship.

1419
01:04:17,880 --> 01:04:19,560
Speaker 1: At the end of the day, you need to pick

1420
01:04:19,560 --> 01:04:20,640
Speaker 1: the Yankees and the Dodgers.

1421
01:04:20,680 --> 01:04:23,840
Speaker 2: Because there is no Red Sox, there's no twins, there's

1422
01:04:23,880 --> 01:04:24,760
Speaker 2: no nothing, no.

1423
01:04:24,800 --> 01:04:27,280
Speaker 6: But you're saying that's how it is now. I know,

1424
01:04:27,400 --> 01:04:29,400
Speaker 6: but there should be more. There should be more teams

1425
01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:31,560
Speaker 6: to pick from. There's a lot of levels in that.

1426
01:04:31,680 --> 01:04:33,440
Speaker 6: I know they are too loyal to the strike. I

1427
01:04:33,520 --> 01:04:36,600
Speaker 6: know it's not good. It's it's not good, and I

1428
01:04:36,640 --> 01:04:38,640
Speaker 6: don't know if it's never gonna change. I don't think

1429
01:04:38,680 --> 01:04:39,760
Speaker 6: that's going to ever change.

1430
01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:42,600
Speaker 2: That Democrat Republican and that being the two teams to

1431
01:04:42,640 --> 01:04:44,280
Speaker 2: pick from, it's pathetic.

1432
01:05:01,600 --> 01:05:03,840
Speaker 1: Since you've articulated your opinion.

1433
01:05:03,640 --> 01:05:09,400
Speaker 2: On politics, on social issues, have your shows the people

1434
01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:12,040
Speaker 2: that come to your live shows, your stand up shows,

1435
01:05:12,200 --> 01:05:12,840
Speaker 2: has it changed?

1436
01:05:12,920 --> 01:05:15,760
Speaker 1: Is the temperature changed? Is it people that want to.

1437
01:05:15,760 --> 01:05:18,000
Speaker 2: See and it's might It must be because people want

1438
01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:22,080
Speaker 2: to see scream Jamie Kennedy, Jamie Kennedy, experiment, a mass

1439
01:05:22,120 --> 01:05:25,280
Speaker 2: to Jamie Kennedy who know nothing about your political stuff.

1440
01:05:25,400 --> 01:05:31,400
Speaker 2: And then there's people like talk your shit right, And

1441
01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:35,480
Speaker 2: do you feel a pressure to serve because when for me,

1442
01:05:35,640 --> 01:05:38,080
Speaker 2: when people come to see you in Kansas City, Chicago, whatever,

1443
01:05:38,120 --> 01:05:40,120
Speaker 2: like you want to give them the best show possible. Yes,

1444
01:05:40,760 --> 01:05:43,120
Speaker 2: And you know if you get the divide like now,

1445
01:05:43,440 --> 01:05:45,320
Speaker 2: like I like talking shit about Trump.

1446
01:05:45,560 --> 01:05:46,960
Speaker 1: I like talking about Biden.

1447
01:05:48,080 --> 01:05:51,000
Speaker 2: But what's funny When I talk shit about Biden, no

1448
01:05:51,040 --> 01:05:54,200
Speaker 2: one cares no, And I talk a lot.

1449
01:05:54,040 --> 01:05:55,880
Speaker 1: Of shit about Biden. You do, do you do?

1450
01:05:56,320 --> 01:05:59,600
Speaker 2: I bang on that motherfucker? But but but I really

1451
01:05:59,600 --> 01:06:00,520
Speaker 2: bang on Trump.

1452
01:06:00,400 --> 01:06:02,800
Speaker 4: Because you I just don't like this motherfucker.

1453
01:06:03,040 --> 01:06:07,040
Speaker 2: But when you're at your shows, do you feel like

1454
01:06:07,080 --> 01:06:09,560
Speaker 2: the audience has changed in the last few years, Like

1455
01:06:09,600 --> 01:06:11,200
Speaker 2: they want to hear you talk to your shit, And

1456
01:06:11,280 --> 01:06:14,360
Speaker 2: how do you sort of compartmentalize it service them because

1457
01:06:14,360 --> 01:06:18,080
Speaker 2: their customers, their fans, Like is it confusing to you?

1458
01:06:18,080 --> 01:06:20,320
Speaker 2: Do you feel like you're being pressured into sort of

1459
01:06:20,640 --> 01:06:22,760
Speaker 2: leaning one way? Like how do you sort of make

1460
01:06:22,800 --> 01:06:23,280
Speaker 2: sense of it?

1461
01:06:23,680 --> 01:06:25,400
Speaker 3: Oh, it's a lot there. I'm gonna try to give

1462
01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:28,040
Speaker 3: simple answers. It used to be when you would go

1463
01:06:28,120 --> 01:06:30,760
Speaker 3: let's say I would go to tempionprov right, and so

1464
01:06:30,840 --> 01:06:34,560
Speaker 3: you do six shows and it's Jamie Kennedy and it's

1465
01:06:34,600 --> 01:06:36,240
Speaker 3: the thing. So you know, I'm from the movies, you

1466
01:06:36,280 --> 01:06:39,880
Speaker 3: know from experiment, you know from this people pretty much

1467
01:06:40,280 --> 01:06:43,960
Speaker 3: before COVID and really when social media took off, they

1468
01:06:44,240 --> 01:06:46,959
Speaker 3: they think they're getting b read. For a while, people

1469
01:06:47,040 --> 01:06:48,640
Speaker 3: just thought I was gonna come out as a character.

1470
01:06:48,760 --> 01:06:50,920
Speaker 3: I'm sure you get that too. They they think you're gonna know, but.

1471
01:06:50,880 --> 01:06:51,720
Speaker 1: You your characters are.

1472
01:06:51,840 --> 01:06:54,000
Speaker 2: Your character game is strong, which is something I wanted

1473
01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:55,160
Speaker 2: to ask you about ship, but I don't know if

1474
01:06:55,160 --> 01:06:56,880
Speaker 2: we're going to get to it. Like your your characters

1475
01:06:56,920 --> 01:07:00,800
Speaker 2: are like I consider like your strongest shit. I mean,

1476
01:07:00,880 --> 01:07:03,560
Speaker 2: I you're character actor to me, like truly, and I

1477
01:07:03,600 --> 01:07:06,160
Speaker 2: don't mean that it looks or in the second guy

1478
01:07:06,400 --> 01:07:07,960
Speaker 2: like you go into the character.

1479
01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:10,439
Speaker 1: I try, man, thank you. It means a lot coming

1480
01:07:10,480 --> 01:07:10,840
Speaker 1: from you.

1481
01:07:10,840 --> 01:07:13,400
Speaker 4: You're you're on that shit. You know, it's a different thing.

1482
01:07:13,520 --> 01:07:15,520
Speaker 2: You know, it's not as I don't do that as much,

1483
01:07:15,560 --> 01:07:18,560
Speaker 2: and it's a different skill set and it's a great

1484
01:07:18,560 --> 01:07:19,600
Speaker 2: skill set that I respect.

1485
01:07:19,600 --> 01:07:21,520
Speaker 4: But I don't want to go down that much. If

1486
01:07:21,560 --> 01:07:22,400
Speaker 4: we can, we'll double back.

1487
01:07:22,440 --> 01:07:26,760
Speaker 3: I appreciate that. It's basically they think they're coming in

1488
01:07:26,800 --> 01:07:27,480
Speaker 3: to see that guy.

1489
01:07:27,520 --> 01:07:28,600
Speaker 1: So it's fun. It's late.

1490
01:07:28,680 --> 01:07:31,680
Speaker 3: That's kind of my mo, right, Like I'm fun, lovable,

1491
01:07:31,800 --> 01:07:34,920
Speaker 3: everybody laugh, have a good time. Kind of like you know,

1492
01:07:35,320 --> 01:07:37,760
Speaker 3: we're gonna like fuck around and I'm gonna take you

1493
01:07:37,800 --> 01:07:39,840
Speaker 3: to the edge, but it's not gonna be like too

1494
01:07:39,840 --> 01:07:43,040
Speaker 3: offensive posts COVID.

1495
01:07:42,640 --> 01:07:44,080
Speaker 1: During COVID and stuff.

1496
01:07:43,800 --> 01:07:48,480
Speaker 3: And me being online, people are more. They're like they

1497
01:07:48,640 --> 01:07:51,800
Speaker 3: I would probably say twenty five percent now come in

1498
01:07:52,280 --> 01:07:52,880
Speaker 3: that are like.

1499
01:07:53,280 --> 01:07:57,640
Speaker 1: Speak your truth, brother, You're doing God's work. And they're like,

1500
01:07:57,720 --> 01:07:58,280
Speaker 1: you're brave.

1501
01:07:58,480 --> 01:08:01,480
Speaker 3: And I was like, oh, I'm not mad, come on,

1502
01:08:01,640 --> 01:08:03,040
Speaker 3: give me something sho.

1503
01:08:03,440 --> 01:08:06,840
Speaker 1: And I like it. I'm about it. You know, I'm

1504
01:08:06,880 --> 01:08:07,640
Speaker 1: not gonna lie to you.

1505
01:08:07,720 --> 01:08:07,880
Speaker 7: Bro.

1506
01:08:08,000 --> 01:08:10,240
Speaker 3: I get some fucking red, white and blues in there,

1507
01:08:10,280 --> 01:08:12,520
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, and nobody hat they'll buy.

1508
01:08:12,360 --> 01:08:16,320
Speaker 1: The shirt, they'll buy and so listen.

1509
01:08:16,600 --> 01:08:18,639
Speaker 3: I get a lot of different people in my crowd,

1510
01:08:18,680 --> 01:08:20,240
Speaker 3: but I also have I saw a.

1511
01:08:20,240 --> 01:08:21,240
Speaker 1: Girl like a couple weeks ago.

1512
01:08:21,360 --> 01:08:23,600
Speaker 3: She had a big ass pink streak and I was

1513
01:08:23,640 --> 01:08:25,879
Speaker 3: going into some gender shit and she laughed.

1514
01:08:26,280 --> 01:08:28,080
Speaker 1: So you can't judge a book by its cover.

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01:08:28,240 --> 01:08:31,200
Speaker 3: I agree with that, alsong, And so you know, at

1516
01:08:31,240 --> 01:08:34,000
Speaker 3: La Joya, I had a good and how much store.

1517
01:08:34,040 --> 01:08:36,160
Speaker 3: I had a great mix of people. And at the

1518
01:08:36,240 --> 01:08:38,000
Speaker 3: end of the day, here's what I want to say.

1519
01:08:38,920 --> 01:08:42,040
Speaker 3: I want to only go more and more for my

1520
01:08:42,200 --> 01:08:45,200
Speaker 3: shit talk, like you you know, a baby you of,

1521
01:08:45,360 --> 01:08:48,160
Speaker 3: like I started a podcast just because I didn't want

1522
01:08:48,200 --> 01:08:50,679
Speaker 3: to be the dinner entertainment for the Friday night late show.

1523
01:08:50,880 --> 01:08:53,280
Speaker 3: Like I don't want to be the guy that happens

1524
01:08:53,280 --> 01:08:55,720
Speaker 3: to be playing Applebee's. And what I mean by that

1525
01:08:55,880 --> 01:08:57,200
Speaker 3: is a lot of people will come in and just

1526
01:08:57,240 --> 01:08:59,400
Speaker 3: buy tickets sometimes to the place and even not even

1527
01:08:59,439 --> 01:09:01,679
Speaker 3: really be invested in who they're seeing.

1528
01:09:02,320 --> 01:09:05,400
Speaker 1: And so I want people to know what I'm about

1529
01:09:05,520 --> 01:09:07,400
Speaker 1: so they come and buy because I don't want to

1530
01:09:07,439 --> 01:09:10,720
Speaker 1: do an uncomfortable show. But I obviously feel it out.

1531
01:09:10,760 --> 01:09:12,200
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, I'd like to

1532
01:09:12,240 --> 01:09:14,519
Speaker 1: be the most truthful, pushing.

1533
01:09:14,600 --> 01:09:17,479
Speaker 3: But there's times though that people get bummed out and

1534
01:09:17,520 --> 01:09:20,080
Speaker 3: you start talking and I feel bad. They paid twenty

1535
01:09:20,080 --> 01:09:22,479
Speaker 3: five thirty bucks a ticket, so I'll pull it back

1536
01:09:22,840 --> 01:09:25,599
Speaker 3: and then I'll go and try to make them laugh more.

1537
01:09:25,600 --> 01:09:28,280
Speaker 3: But there's other times where they're just about it. And

1538
01:09:28,360 --> 01:09:32,400
Speaker 3: obviously it's different places. You know, Florida has a rep. Dude,

1539
01:09:32,479 --> 01:09:33,840
Speaker 3: it ain't exactly what people say.

1540
01:09:33,920 --> 01:09:37,280
Speaker 1: I agree. I love doing shows in Florida. Absolutely, you

1541
01:09:37,360 --> 01:09:40,240
Speaker 1: heard it right here. One hundred thousands in Florida. Like

1542
01:09:40,360 --> 01:09:42,280
Speaker 1: every time I go down there, I'm like this is dope.

1543
01:09:42,320 --> 01:09:44,479
Speaker 1: All day shows are dope. People are dope.

1544
01:09:45,120 --> 01:09:48,160
Speaker 3: Do you go to Tampa? Brian runs it right and

1545
01:09:48,240 --> 01:09:51,679
Speaker 3: it dude, he's got as many liberals as he's got hundred,

1546
01:09:51,720 --> 01:09:57,880
Speaker 3: Like it's a mix and guess what it's what they

1547
01:09:57,960 --> 01:10:00,960
Speaker 3: say about is not true. I agree, and so that

1548
01:10:01,400 --> 01:10:04,320
Speaker 3: like size splitters, a beautiful club, beautiful room, you can

1549
01:10:04,360 --> 01:10:07,200
Speaker 3: work it out and at the end of the day, yeah,

1550
01:10:07,200 --> 01:10:08,720
Speaker 3: I want people who fuck with me, but I have

1551
01:10:08,920 --> 01:10:12,320
Speaker 3: multiple facets day. But so just like you, you're very political,

1552
01:10:12,760 --> 01:10:16,200
Speaker 3: but you're also just funny without being political. But do

1553
01:10:16,280 --> 01:10:18,479
Speaker 3: I want to grow it into my real voice, my

1554
01:10:18,560 --> 01:10:19,160
Speaker 3: adult voice?

1555
01:10:19,240 --> 01:10:19,400
Speaker 1: Yes?

1556
01:10:19,439 --> 01:10:19,640
Speaker 3: I do.

1557
01:10:20,280 --> 01:10:23,040
Speaker 4: Where do you think? Where are you at?

1558
01:10:23,880 --> 01:10:28,040
Speaker 2: How concerned are you about our strike, sack strike, Writer's

1559
01:10:28,080 --> 01:10:28,679
Speaker 2: guild strike?

1560
01:10:29,960 --> 01:10:32,000
Speaker 4: Like, what do you think is going to happen here?

1561
01:10:33,600 --> 01:10:33,760
Speaker 1: Bro?

1562
01:10:34,160 --> 01:10:36,120
Speaker 3: I can tell you some shit because I just got

1563
01:10:36,160 --> 01:10:38,519
Speaker 3: had a good conversation with somebody about this and I

1564
01:10:38,520 --> 01:10:39,840
Speaker 3: don't know what I can say, but I'm going to

1565
01:10:39,880 --> 01:10:42,040
Speaker 3: try to say it. First of all, I love Fran.

1566
01:10:42,360 --> 01:10:44,519
Speaker 3: I worked with fran what'd you work with her on?

1567
01:10:44,600 --> 01:10:47,400
Speaker 3: I did a show called Living with Frank. I was

1568
01:10:47,400 --> 01:10:50,400
Speaker 3: one of the creators of it. Me I named Dave

1569
01:10:50,439 --> 01:10:53,800
Speaker 3: Garrett Josh Edding, and it was beautiful, and a guy

1570
01:10:53,840 --> 01:10:56,800
Speaker 3: named Ryan McPartland was her lover in it, and it

1571
01:10:56,880 --> 01:11:01,320
Speaker 3: was about baby, basically about a cougar. And so I

1572
01:11:01,400 --> 01:11:05,599
Speaker 3: love Jolie Fisher. I work with her, So I think

1573
01:11:05,640 --> 01:11:08,320
Speaker 3: we're in great hands. But I think there's a lot

1574
01:11:08,400 --> 01:11:10,640
Speaker 3: going on that people don't realize. First of all, the

1575
01:11:10,640 --> 01:11:13,000
Speaker 3: strike is not gonna end in twenty twenty three. There's

1576
01:11:13,000 --> 01:11:15,799
Speaker 3: no way. There's no way, dude. I went by Warner

1577
01:11:15,840 --> 01:11:18,439
Speaker 3: Brothers yesterday. You know the triangle where you see the

1578
01:11:18,439 --> 01:11:23,280
Speaker 3: three posters. Yeah, empty with like old blue stick tape.

1579
01:11:23,360 --> 01:11:28,280
Speaker 3: It looks like fucking a fucking forty second and fucking

1580
01:11:28,400 --> 01:11:29,560
Speaker 3: Broadway billboard.

1581
01:11:29,640 --> 01:11:30,519
Speaker 1: There's nothing on it.

1582
01:11:31,080 --> 01:11:34,679
Speaker 3: That's weird. Okay, this shit was empty. The studio doesn't

1583
01:11:34,720 --> 01:11:38,080
Speaker 3: look like there's any action going on. So I personally

1584
01:11:38,120 --> 01:11:41,400
Speaker 3: think the strike is not gonna stop until twenty twenty four.

1585
01:11:41,840 --> 01:11:44,800
Speaker 3: I also think that people don't realize there's a lot

1586
01:11:44,800 --> 01:11:48,000
Speaker 3: of stuff from page twenty three to twenty seven in

1587
01:11:48,040 --> 01:11:50,840
Speaker 3: the agreement that they have not read. So do you

1588
01:11:50,880 --> 01:11:54,639
Speaker 3: know this one point that if you do a TV

1589
01:11:54,720 --> 01:11:58,840
Speaker 3: show and you, let's say basic TV shows are six episodes. Now,

1590
01:11:58,920 --> 01:12:01,680
Speaker 3: let's say, first dreamer, do you know they have the

1591
01:12:01,800 --> 01:12:06,200
Speaker 3: right to hold you up to thirty six months, including

1592
01:12:06,240 --> 01:12:07,920
Speaker 3: from the day of you start production.

1593
01:12:08,120 --> 01:12:12,559
Speaker 1: Yes, I know that. And do you know that's without pay? Yes?

1594
01:12:13,439 --> 01:12:14,639
Speaker 1: And how do you feel about that?

1595
01:12:14,640 --> 01:12:16,479
Speaker 4: It's not dope at all?

1596
01:12:17,439 --> 01:12:18,960
Speaker 1: How many people know that?

1597
01:12:19,240 --> 01:12:21,960
Speaker 2: I think people in our business are becoming more and

1598
01:12:22,000 --> 01:12:23,160
Speaker 2: more informed about it now.

1599
01:12:23,320 --> 01:12:27,080
Speaker 3: They don't you do not get paid? And you know

1600
01:12:27,160 --> 01:12:32,240
Speaker 3: that if you do reshoots that they're you're not getting paid.

1601
01:12:32,320 --> 01:12:32,679
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1602
01:12:33,400 --> 01:12:35,000
Speaker 3: And do you know that if you get a new

1603
01:12:35,120 --> 01:12:37,599
Speaker 3: job and the reshoots that you're not getting paid for,

1604
01:12:38,040 --> 01:12:40,280
Speaker 3: they would be in first position to the pay.

1605
01:12:40,960 --> 01:12:43,960
Speaker 1: It's it's not good. No, shit needs to be fixed.

1606
01:12:44,000 --> 01:12:49,000
Speaker 3: And you know that also that this waiver is it

1607
01:12:49,000 --> 01:12:51,760
Speaker 3: it bess that people are out doing films. Yes, they

1608
01:12:51,800 --> 01:12:55,240
Speaker 3: agreed to the waiver that's on those pages now. So

1609
01:12:55,439 --> 01:12:59,000
Speaker 3: by doing these waiver films, I'm saying, go do your thing.

1610
01:12:59,680 --> 01:13:02,599
Speaker 3: You're a agreeing to this interim agreement, which a lot

1611
01:13:02,680 --> 01:13:06,360
Speaker 3: of people don't realize is in there. So there's also

1612
01:13:06,479 --> 01:13:11,679
Speaker 3: people's insurance are being fucked. Bro. It ain't good no,

1613
01:13:12,320 --> 01:13:15,439
Speaker 3: And so I A don't think people realize what certain

1614
01:13:15,479 --> 01:13:18,080
Speaker 3: points that we have that I don't realize that we

1615
01:13:18,160 --> 01:13:23,800
Speaker 3: might have conceded on. And b it's dude, the studios

1616
01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:27,320
Speaker 3: right now can fucking just make an AI of you

1617
01:13:27,479 --> 01:13:29,719
Speaker 3: as a background actor and they don't even.

1618
01:13:29,680 --> 01:13:33,400
Speaker 2: Need to scan the writers with the AI is more

1619
01:13:33,400 --> 01:13:36,960
Speaker 2: concerning to me, Oh that's happening. That shit is crazy,

1620
01:13:36,960 --> 01:13:39,639
Speaker 2: because you could take that's happening a Mockingbird one hundred

1621
01:13:39,640 --> 01:13:44,439
Speaker 2: percent literally, yeah, implemented into thing. Go give me a

1622
01:13:44,520 --> 01:13:47,479
Speaker 2: draft of To Kill a Mockingbird as a film. It's

1623
01:13:47,520 --> 01:13:50,519
Speaker 2: already been a film. But you could take To Kill

1624
01:13:50,520 --> 01:13:54,760
Speaker 2: a Mockingbird and it'll give you a draft which two

1625
01:13:54,800 --> 01:13:57,000
Speaker 2: writers could work off of to break that down.

1626
01:13:57,600 --> 01:14:01,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's wild, bro. You could put in Star Wars six.

1627
01:14:00,920 --> 01:14:02,800
Speaker 2: I know, and it'll give you a script and it

1628
01:14:02,840 --> 01:14:05,360
Speaker 2: don't need punch ups. Yeah, it don't even rewrite. Oh yeah,

1629
01:14:05,400 --> 01:14:06,080
Speaker 2: but it'll get you.

1630
01:14:06,720 --> 01:14:09,080
Speaker 1: The hardest thing is to crack ninety eight. It'll get

1631
01:14:09,080 --> 01:14:10,720
Speaker 1: you ninety eight pages. It'll get you.

1632
01:14:10,720 --> 01:14:12,759
Speaker 4: You can say, give me one hundred and fifty pages.

1633
01:14:13,040 --> 01:14:14,080
Speaker 1: It'll give you could.

1634
01:14:13,920 --> 01:14:16,040
Speaker 4: Say, give me a sequel to the Godfather.

1635
01:14:16,360 --> 01:14:19,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, dude, there's a company you gotta watch on TikTok.

1636
01:14:19,840 --> 01:14:23,000
Speaker 3: I don't know different. AI's not chat GGP where they

1637
01:14:23,080 --> 01:14:26,759
Speaker 3: somehow I'm not explaining it right. They took south Park,

1638
01:14:26,840 --> 01:14:29,519
Speaker 3: which other I think has let's say three hundred episodes,

1639
01:14:30,320 --> 01:14:33,519
Speaker 3: and they did something within South Park where they did

1640
01:14:33,560 --> 01:14:38,120
Speaker 3: an additional five hundred episodes within a week and new.

1641
01:14:38,040 --> 01:14:40,000
Speaker 1: Storylines all this shit.

1642
01:14:40,160 --> 01:14:42,559
Speaker 3: Put it out. It could be if they wanted it.

1643
01:14:42,560 --> 01:14:44,280
Speaker 3: They don't have the rights to it, but they just

1644
01:14:44,320 --> 01:14:45,960
Speaker 3: wanted to show the power of their tool.

1645
01:14:47,080 --> 01:14:51,320
Speaker 1: Do you understand what that is? That's not cool? Not cool? Cool?

1646
01:14:51,520 --> 01:14:55,679
Speaker 1: Oh cool? Bro? Those fucking that weekend That Helium ain't

1647
01:14:55,680 --> 01:14:58,000
Speaker 1: looking bad right like you might like?

1648
01:14:58,160 --> 01:15:02,599
Speaker 3: Yo, we got I mean I feel fortunate because I

1649
01:15:02,720 --> 01:15:05,439
Speaker 3: you know, I don't have one stream. I do many streams.

1650
01:15:05,479 --> 01:15:08,080
Speaker 3: But is acting going to be disrupted? One thousand?

1651
01:15:09,439 --> 01:15:12,080
Speaker 1: Do you still write? You're a writer? Yeah? You wrote

1652
01:15:12,120 --> 01:15:14,439
Speaker 1: Malibu's Most Wanted. I had a lot of help with Nick,

1653
01:15:14,479 --> 01:15:17,000
Speaker 1: my boy Nick's one. But you're you're a writer. I

1654
01:15:17,040 --> 01:15:17,960
Speaker 1: try to be Yeah.

1655
01:15:18,000 --> 01:15:20,800
Speaker 2: I mean, do you feel discouraged by what we just

1656
01:15:20,840 --> 01:15:23,920
Speaker 2: said and going forward to are you writing stuff outside

1657
01:15:23,920 --> 01:15:24,800
Speaker 2: of comedy right now?

1658
01:15:26,960 --> 01:15:29,559
Speaker 3: I'm not a typical writer. I probably a lot like you,

1659
01:15:29,640 --> 01:15:31,880
Speaker 3: and I'm not. That's not a this meaning like when

1660
01:15:31,880 --> 01:15:33,760
Speaker 3: I go on stage, I try some things off the

1661
01:15:33,800 --> 01:15:35,800
Speaker 3: top of my head. If they work, then I kind

1662
01:15:35,800 --> 01:15:37,479
Speaker 3: of write them and shape them as well. I could

1663
01:15:37,520 --> 01:15:39,160
Speaker 3: see probably that might be your process.

1664
01:15:39,280 --> 01:15:40,000
Speaker 1: But I'm a ranter.

1665
01:15:40,280 --> 01:15:44,000
Speaker 2: Like my strongest suit on stage is ranting, yes, And

1666
01:15:44,680 --> 01:15:46,920
Speaker 2: it depends on the rants, you know. Sometimes I'll play

1667
01:15:46,960 --> 01:15:48,760
Speaker 2: around with it and go on stage and with the

1668
01:15:48,800 --> 01:15:50,600
Speaker 2: whole thing written out, and sometimes I'll come up with

1669
01:15:50,640 --> 01:15:53,360
Speaker 2: an idea and then sort of go back. But I'm

1670
01:15:53,360 --> 01:15:56,320
Speaker 2: talking about like films and television. You're you've written, yeah,

1671
01:15:56,360 --> 01:15:59,200
Speaker 2: I have. You're an accomplished writer, well trying. I mean,

1672
01:15:59,280 --> 01:16:01,519
Speaker 2: I can never write by myself. I always have somebody

1673
01:16:01,520 --> 01:16:04,760
Speaker 2: helsey because it's hard to get it out. But I

1674
01:16:04,840 --> 01:16:06,519
Speaker 2: have three movies that I've written.

1675
01:16:06,520 --> 01:16:08,800
Speaker 3: I've been trying to make them for eight years, and

1676
01:16:08,880 --> 01:16:12,160
Speaker 3: one's a horror movie, one's a comedy, romantic comedy, and

1677
01:16:13,000 --> 01:16:15,320
Speaker 3: what is like an Edgier piece, and it's just it's

1678
01:16:15,320 --> 01:16:17,799
Speaker 3: a pain in the fucking ass. I raise the money.

1679
01:16:17,960 --> 01:16:20,479
Speaker 3: This fucking guy fell through that. We got five half

1680
01:16:20,560 --> 01:16:23,280
Speaker 3: a million dollars. My guy owns a Delian Kansas, So

1681
01:16:23,360 --> 01:16:25,240
Speaker 3: you know how it is. It's like the best money

1682
01:16:25,560 --> 01:16:28,200
Speaker 3: is outside of Hollywood, right, and then oh we got.

1683
01:16:28,120 --> 01:16:29,280
Speaker 1: Foreign pre sales and all the shit.

1684
01:16:29,400 --> 01:16:32,439
Speaker 3: So I was in the process of getting a couple

1685
01:16:32,479 --> 01:16:34,200
Speaker 3: of things going, but it's a fucking nightmare.

1686
01:16:34,280 --> 01:16:35,880
Speaker 1: So it's all discouraging.

1687
01:16:35,920 --> 01:16:38,400
Speaker 3: So that's why I just love doing my own shit,

1688
01:16:38,880 --> 01:16:41,240
Speaker 3: building up my shit this way and then try to

1689
01:16:41,240 --> 01:16:41,519
Speaker 3: put up.

1690
01:16:41,640 --> 01:16:43,519
Speaker 1: But where am I gonna what am I gonna put it?

1691
01:16:43,560 --> 01:16:45,760
Speaker 1: Make a movie and put it right on tub? Yeah?

1692
01:16:45,760 --> 01:16:48,760
Speaker 1: I mean, I love Touby, but no disrespect to no disrespect.

1693
01:16:48,800 --> 01:16:51,439
Speaker 3: But it's like, I know what I'm I don't even

1694
01:16:51,479 --> 01:16:53,960
Speaker 3: know what a CV series is right now.

1695
01:16:54,080 --> 01:16:55,840
Speaker 1: I don't know what a movie is.

1696
01:16:55,880 --> 01:16:59,320
Speaker 3: I think it's about our stand up, putting our clips

1697
01:16:59,360 --> 01:17:02,120
Speaker 3: out and just kind of building an army of people

1698
01:17:02,160 --> 01:17:04,639
Speaker 3: and then making the content for them and hopefully them

1699
01:17:04,680 --> 01:17:05,240
Speaker 3: getting it out.

1700
01:17:05,320 --> 01:17:11,240
Speaker 2: I agree, all right, Jamie Kennedy, banging career, Thank you,

1701
01:17:11,280 --> 01:17:13,200
Speaker 2: blow way more to give.

1702
01:17:13,560 --> 01:17:14,240
Speaker 1: It ain't over.

1703
01:17:15,760 --> 01:17:21,200
Speaker 2: Philly's Finest, Malibu's finest. On the road in the fall.

1704
01:17:21,720 --> 01:17:25,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I took off. I'm starting this weekend. I'm gonna

1705
01:17:25,080 --> 01:17:26,360
Speaker 3: be out at Schomberg.

1706
01:17:26,640 --> 01:17:29,200
Speaker 2: Where's your tickets? All, Jamie Kennedy dot Com. Jamie Cannon

1707
01:17:29,240 --> 01:17:31,760
Speaker 2: got and do your podcast. Hate to break it to you,

1708
01:17:31,840 --> 01:17:32,559
Speaker 2: Jamie Kennedy.

1709
01:17:32,960 --> 01:17:37,200
Speaker 1: Can't stop, won't stop. Never, My man, this was nope.

1710
01:17:37,200 --> 01:17:39,760
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Thank you. This was nope. Thank you,

1711
01:17:40,040 --> 01:17:46,120
Speaker 1: Peace peace boom.

1712
01:17:46,240 --> 01:17:49,759
Speaker 2: I want to thank my guest Jamie Kennedy for the time,

1713
01:17:50,080 --> 01:17:53,639
Speaker 2: for the insight for excellent iron.

1714
01:17:53,680 --> 01:17:55,120
Speaker 1: Rappaport Stereo podcast.

1715
01:17:55,200 --> 01:17:59,360
Speaker 2: Tell a friend to tell a friend to tickety tell

1716
01:17:59,640 --> 01:18:06,839
Speaker 2: a about the world wide phenomenon. I am Rappaport Stereo Podcast.

1717
01:18:06,880 --> 01:18:09,400
Speaker 2: Miles Jordan aked the Bleach Brothers aka.

1718
01:18:09,040 --> 01:18:10,160
Speaker 1: The Diggity Deaf Brothers.

1719
01:18:11,240 --> 01:18:13,200
Speaker 2: Take me out here with something real, Lanes, take me

1720
01:18:13,240 --> 01:18:15,120
Speaker 2: out of here with something real, lad, but most importantly,

1721
01:18:15,200 --> 01:18:18,200
Speaker 2: end this puppy with something real funky. See I am

1722
01:18:18,240 --> 01:18:19,679
Speaker 2: Rappaport Stereo Podcast.

1723
01:18:19,800 --> 01:18:20,240
Speaker 1: I'm out