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This is a paid advertisement. 19 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 1: I should get overtime pay for staying up tonight and 20 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:20,399 Speaker 1: talking about this awful Seattle six to three went over 21 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 1: the Chicago Bears. You know, first of all, just a 22 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 1: broad comment. Caleb Williams has thrown for over three hundred 23 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: yards four times this season. That's more than Patrick Mahomes. 24 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 1: That's remarkable. And tonight he had an interception for the 25 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 1: first time and forever. Nobody could have succeeded with this 26 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 1: team in this season. I mean, they're using a basically 27 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 1: their third different person is sort of assembling the game 28 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 1: plan this year. It's just a circus. It is an 29 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 1: absolute circus. He's still the youngest quarterback in the NFC. 30 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 1: He's got boundless talent. He made a couple of really 31 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 1: nice throws tonight. I mean Gino smith Is, I mean 32 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 1: just a ham and egger. Caleb's got all sorts of talent. 33 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 1: But there's just nothing you can do with this franchise. 34 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 1: There's nothing I like about it. Like even bad franchises. 35 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 1: Let's let's let's take a franchise, you know, like the Jets. 36 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:22,079 Speaker 1: They had Robert Sola for years, an excellent defensive coach. 37 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:25,799 Speaker 1: Joe Douglas whipped on a quarterback in a COVID year, 38 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 1: But that roster is a bunch of Joe Douglas draft picks, 39 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 1: it's very good. He also went and got Davonte Adams 40 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 1: before he got fired, and Deavante and Aaron are connecting. 41 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 1: Take a franchise like the Carolina Panthers. They went out 42 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 1: and got an excellent young offensive coach who looks like 43 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 1: he has turned Bryce Young from a bust to a decent, mobile, athletic, 44 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 1: accurate starter. There's nothing about the Bears outside of Caleb Williams. 45 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 1: I mean, it's I don't trust the ownership. You know, 46 00:02:57,200 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 1: Kevin Warren, the president, has a reputation is more Paula 47 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 1: Titians and football expert Ryan Poles, you know, I mean, listen, 48 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 1: keep him fine, move off him fine. I don't think 49 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 1: he's done a terrible job last year. Four picks. He 50 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 1: took a punter. That's not what I would have done. 51 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:20,080 Speaker 1: They could have, you know, made more moves, eber flues. 52 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:20,800 Speaker 2: The staff. 53 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: It's a mess. I mean, it's just nothing that's redeemable 54 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:26,919 Speaker 1: about the franchise outside of Caleb Williams and a couple 55 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 1: of players Montes Sweat, Jalen Johnson, DJ Moore. You know, 56 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 1: they've got a couple of players I like, But everybody 57 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 1: in the NFL's got a couple of players. It's just 58 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 1: nobody could have succeeded here. You know, tonight it was 59 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 1: an unwatchable mess. And all the fears that Kayleb Williams 60 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 1: had privately going to Chicago. I mean I reported this 61 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 1: last year. I got pushedback on it, but people in 62 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 1: his camp were worried this franchise. I mean, look at 63 00:03:56,040 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 1: Chicago's ports right now, White Sox, Blackhawks, Bears. I don't 64 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 1: have any ability to decipher why not great ownership is 65 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 1: a place to start, but I feel I feel sad 66 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 1: for the kid because and you can see the talent. 67 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:18,479 Speaker 1: I mean you you would have to be trying to 68 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:20,559 Speaker 1: make an argument to say you can't see his talent. 69 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 1: I mean last night or tonight was the first interception 70 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 1: he's had in forever. I think it was like since Halloween. 71 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 1: And that's why this idea that you can just go 72 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 1: out and get some you know, Ben Johnson and he's 73 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 1: going to change the world. You know, that guy's never 74 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:40,160 Speaker 1: been a head coach at the high school level. There 75 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:46,919 Speaker 1: are so many hurdles to overcome in this organization. I 76 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:49,239 Speaker 1: don't think there's a good job right now in the NFL, 77 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 1: I really don't. I don't think any of these jobs 78 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 1: are good. And if Oz Mike Frable, I'd sit it 79 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 1: out for a year because I think next year you 80 00:04:56,720 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: could possibly have the Cowboys, Bengals and Joe Burrow would 81 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 1: be available. You know, there's a couple of opportunities out 82 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 1: there next year. Keep your eye on. If Sean McDermott 83 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 1: does not win in Buffalo, I think Sean McDermott, a 84 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 1: good coach, could be in trouble. So though, those are 85 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 1: really good opportunities, and there's only been three great coaching 86 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 1: opportunities in the last eight years, Green Bay Matt Lafleur, 87 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 1: I think Mike McCarthy and Dallas and getting Justin Herbert 88 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 1: with a Chargers. Those are really high end coaching opportunities. 89 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 1: I wouldn't want the Chicago job, despite Caleb's talent. I 90 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:33,599 Speaker 1: wouldn't want it. That's how bad it is. My other 91 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 1: takeaway in this game, it's funny the number one position 92 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 1: in the NFL over the last twenty years that has 93 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 1: been the biggest bust rate in the first round is 94 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:47,159 Speaker 1: wide receiver, And obviously, you know wide receivers can make 95 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 1: dynamic plays. But the Seahawks have Smith and Jigba first rounder, 96 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 1: DK Metcalf, second rounder, a good tight end, and Noah 97 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:59,720 Speaker 1: Fant excellent running back Charboney who's their second back. But 98 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 1: equality Gino Smith can't play. You're eight, nine, nine and 99 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:06,160 Speaker 1: eight with Gino Smith. That's just what it is, you know, 100 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 1: Roma Dunza, what can you do? They've been better off 101 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:13,840 Speaker 1: going out and getting an available offensive tackle. Instead, they 102 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 1: went in later rounds and got some prospect I think 103 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 1: from Yale, and you know, can he play? We'll see. 104 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 1: You know, you look at the Chargers who are going 105 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:27,839 Speaker 1: to make the playoffs. They could have had a wide receiver. 106 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 1: They looked at Brian Thomas. They went and got Joe 107 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:32,599 Speaker 1: Alt from Notre Dame. They're going to make the playoffs. 108 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 1: They have two of the best young tackles offensive tackles 109 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 1: in the NFL. Yeah. I was just watching it tonight 110 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 1: and I'm looking at all these first round wide receiver 111 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:44,720 Speaker 1: talents and DJ Moore and Roma Dunzae and DK Metcalf 112 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:47,840 Speaker 1: second rounder in Smith and Jigbin. What's it matter if 113 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 1: you have a bad organization or like in Seattle, you 114 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:52,480 Speaker 1: have a mediocre quarterback and I like John Snyder as 115 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 1: general manager for the Seahawks. He's mostly not a good job, 116 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 1: but I think he made a major mistake last year 117 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 1: in the year before not afting a quarterback. And I 118 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 1: said it at the time. I'm not you know, I'm 119 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 1: not looking through the rear view mirror here. I said it. 120 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 3: Last year. 121 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 1: Seattle's roster is really solid d line, solid skilled positions, 122 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 1: good corners, linebackers that are mobile and move. They're just 123 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 1: mediocre quarterback. So it was a tough watch tonight. And 124 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 1: you know, I just Chicago fans al Michael's touched on this. 125 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 1: I mean, they are being handed just tire fires and 126 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 1: all their sports and come out tonight and pack that stadium. 127 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 1: Is you know, it's a tip of the cap to 128 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 1: one of the great American cities and sports cities because 129 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 1: fans in that city are getting ripped off. The quality 130 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 1: is awful. It's always been a very political city and 131 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 1: it feels like the same with the Bears. It just 132 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 1: feels like a kind of a political hot mess. So again, 133 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 1: I think my first choice would be vable. I don't 134 00:07:55,680 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 1: know if he'd accept it. I have real reservations about 135 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 1: all these hot shot offensive coordinators a year ago, Bobby 136 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 1: Slowick Houston OC was a genius. Houston can't score this year. 137 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 2: C J. 138 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 1: Stroud has regressed badly. Uh you know the Cliff Kingsbury, 139 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 1: who I like a lot, but he struggled as a 140 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 1: head coach college and pro. You gotta be careful. I mean, 141 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 1: there was a time when everybody was bragging about Shane 142 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 1: Waldron and rehabbing Geno Smith. Shane Waldron, you know, I 143 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 1: don't even know where he's at now. He got booted 144 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:33,719 Speaker 1: out of the Bears organization. So I think when when 145 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 1: a franchise is broken, you got to you got to 146 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 1: get a culture changer. Dan Campbell, Detroit harbab Mike Framele. 147 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 1: That's what it feels like to me. It's a mess. 148 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 3: You know. 149 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 1: I thought it was interesting this week before we get 150 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 1: to Chad Millman with our sharpened Square segment. I think 151 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 1: one of the things that is a pretty good sign 152 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 1: that you're going to solve a problem is when you 153 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 1: admit you have a problem. I think anytime a sport 154 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 1: or a business gets defensive about an issue, it just 155 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 1: signals you're not going to solve the issue. Kevin Durant, 156 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:14,080 Speaker 1: Lebron James Joe Missoula and Adam Silver have all acknowledged 157 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 1: in the last ten days that the NBA esthetically has 158 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 1: a problem. Now they've got very nice ratings. You know, 159 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 1: Lebron and Steph just get ratings period. It doesn't matter 160 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 1: if they've play together in the Olympics, the finals are 161 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:30,079 Speaker 1: on Christmas. Lebron and stephf get numbers. They still carry 162 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 1: the league from a TV rating standpoint. But I think 163 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 1: I like the idea that all the top stars, you're 164 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:41,079 Speaker 1: Katie Lebron, the Celtics coach, and Adam Silver acknowledge, Yeah, 165 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 1: we got ninety three's a game. It's just it's homogeneous, 166 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 1: it's monotonous, it's cookie cutter. And you know, a lot 167 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 1: of people are trying to take this issue and anybody 168 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 1: that's critical of the league, well, you know, you're an 169 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 1: old head. You're romanticizing the past. I have said ten 170 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:01,560 Speaker 1: times on the air minimum the Pacers Nicks free throw 171 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:04,959 Speaker 1: shooting contests, Reggie Miller against Spike Lee is the most 172 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 1: overrated finals of my life. It was one of the 173 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 1: team they were scoring in the seventies. It was awful. 174 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:14,080 Speaker 1: I mean, like seven to eight of the ten starters 175 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:18,319 Speaker 1: couldn't shoot. You know, it was all these romanticized tough 176 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 1: guys that really couldn't handle the ball or shoot. It's 177 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:24,679 Speaker 1: not that I've always been an NBA fan, and playoff 178 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 1: basketball is always better because the mid range game comes back. 179 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 1: But it's very much I would liken it to baseball, 180 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:33,560 Speaker 1: and that Rob Manfred has never has raised the ire 181 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 1: of curists. But he listened, and he went to the 182 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:39,680 Speaker 1: minor leagues and they tried this pitch clock, and it worked. 183 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 1: Did it for a couple of years. They brought it 184 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 1: to the bigs. There's no question I watched more baseball, 185 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 1: no question I watched more baseball last year. And they 186 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 1: got rid of the defensive shift because he wanted more 187 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 1: stars on the bases, not in the dugout after lining 188 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:55,439 Speaker 1: out to right field where the second basement was standing. 189 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:58,960 Speaker 1: So these criticisms, the fact that the biggest stars in 190 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 1: the NBA and and the commissioner are acknowledging, yeah, there's 191 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 1: just too many guys that shouldn't be shooting threes. Shooting threes. 192 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 1: I think that's good for the game. I think these discussions, 193 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 1: when you make them actionable, are great for the NBA 194 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:14,679 Speaker 1: because listen, it's some of the world's greatest athletes. Playoff 195 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 1: basketball can be a lot of fun. The league sometimes 196 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:19,439 Speaker 1: has dipped its toe in politics, and that's turned off 197 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 1: a lot of people in the country. 198 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 3: And I get it. 199 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:24,319 Speaker 1: I'd love to see Jimmy Butler go to a team 200 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:26,599 Speaker 1: and add some juice to a team like the Warriors. 201 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:29,959 Speaker 1: But I've always loved pro basketball, and I've always loved 202 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 1: basketball in general. But I thought this week was a 203 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:38,200 Speaker 1: really healthy, not divisive, really healthy discussions about the future 204 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 1: of the game. Baseball made changes completely paid off within 205 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 1: a year and really paid off within two years. So 206 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:50,679 Speaker 1: people can argue on the internet. It's almost like the 207 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 1: NIL and transfer portal. I'm for both, but you need guidelines. 208 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 1: Miami's basketball coach you know just retired, said, you know, 209 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 1: NIL has no guardrails. I'm out, And of course people 210 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 1: jump on jim Larnega and say Miami Hurricanes goes, well, well, 211 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:09,560 Speaker 1: you moved, you were at George Mason, you moved. Yes, 212 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 1: coaches of Boa has moved and they'll continue to move, 213 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:15,959 Speaker 1: and players will continue to move. But when like eight 214 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:20,680 Speaker 1: guys of your thirteen on scholarship bail and you have 215 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:24,959 Speaker 1: a good program, You're spending so much time recruiting your 216 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:30,080 Speaker 1: own players forget other high schoolers and AAU stars, that 217 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 1: it makes the game daunting. It's just a you need relentless, 218 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 1: youthful energy to keep up. I mean, Jay Wright should 219 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 1: be coaching now. It just wears you out, and so 220 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 1: if you want to retain your best coaches and have 221 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:47,440 Speaker 1: more continuity, I don't think the NIL or transfer portal 222 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 1: are ruining the sport. 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I suspect. I suspect 268 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 1: going forward the second round will be reseeded. That would 269 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 1: be my guess. It will expand to fourteen or sixteen teams. 270 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 1: I think there's been a bit of an overreaction to 271 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 1: the tournament. What say you? 272 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, totally. I feel like two things out of this one. 273 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 4: The first point you just made every year in March madness. 274 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 4: The first round has you know, sixteen fourteen blowouts and 275 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 4: two great games, and then like but everyone remembers the 276 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 4: great games, the argument will expand the field, and then 277 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 4: all of a sudden, you're going to span the field 278 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 4: and there's going to be a MAC team that beat 279 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 4: upsetting a Big ten team at twelve to five scenario. 280 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 3: You're going to have that in college football one day. 281 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 3: I don't worry about it. 282 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 4: Also, two, you could have predicted before Tennessee played Ohio State, 283 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 4: after Notre Dame had beat up on Indiana and after 284 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 4: SMU was getting it handed to them by Penn State. 285 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 4: I was in a tech chain with a bunch of 286 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 4: IU buddies, right and I was saying, you can guarantee 287 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 4: right now, next year, over correction for SEC and strength 288 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 4: of schedule, you get seven SEC teams. You'll get two 289 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 4: Big ten teams chosen from Penn State, Michigan, Ohio State. 290 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 4: You'll get Clemson out of the ACC, you'll get who 291 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 4: Cares out of the Big twelve, and you'll get Boise State. Right, 292 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 4: because you won't get the at large team. You won't 293 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 4: get the third Big ten team because now the committee 294 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 4: is too scared because of all these blowouts. 295 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:04,920 Speaker 3: So you're now you're going to get just. 296 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:07,399 Speaker 4: The sec and when those teams are blown out in 297 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 4: the first round, then you expand and you're like, ask, 298 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 4: We're just going to let everybody in and hopefully we 299 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 4: get some upsets sometime down the road. 300 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 3: That's my take, all. 301 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 1: Right, So we'll have some college football picks. We'll start 302 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:21,640 Speaker 1: with the NFL Broncos plus three and a half head 303 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:24,440 Speaker 1: coach Sean Payton with extra time. They played on Thursday. 304 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:28,399 Speaker 1: Cincinnati's defense is atrocious. I think people are overreacting to 305 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 1: just how good Joe Burrow is. They can't stop people 306 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 1: offensive coach extra time. Listen, they outplayed the Chargers for 307 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:38,639 Speaker 1: the first half, and you know then Justin Herbert just 308 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 1: did what great quarterbacks do. He took the game over. 309 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:45,119 Speaker 1: This one jumped out to me as an overreaction. Broncos 310 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 1: plus three and a half sharper square. 311 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 3: So it's totally sharp. You nailed it about Joe Burrow. 312 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 4: The Browns were in the Bengals backfield the entire game. 313 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 4: Joe Burrow had no choice but to look brilliant and 314 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:06,439 Speaker 4: make brilliant plays like he's Superman because he was going 315 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 4: to get sacked. He's purouetting into full on dives and 316 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:14,359 Speaker 4: throwing touchdown passes because his offensive line is so bad 317 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 4: that he had no choice but to look like someone 318 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:20,119 Speaker 4: who everybody wants to bet on. Joe Burrow kind of 319 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:23,200 Speaker 4: holds the ball. That's kind of his mo. He wants 320 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 4: to throw the ball downfield. He wants to get it 321 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:27,879 Speaker 4: to Higgins, he wants to get it to Jamar Chase. 322 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 4: I would want to do that too, So it's not 323 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:33,720 Speaker 4: entirely his fault. He's playing into what he thinks will 324 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 4: get them the best opportunity to win. But the Broncos 325 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:40,200 Speaker 4: have as good a pass rush as Cleveland, and they 326 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:43,359 Speaker 4: don't have Dorian Thompson Robinson, who, by the way, almost 327 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 4: got the Browns to cover that game. That's how bad 328 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 4: the Bengals defense is. So let me give you some 329 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:51,719 Speaker 4: stats about bow Nicks that should make you feel more 330 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 4: comfortable about this, because I betted at three and a 331 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 4: half bow Nicks against bad defenses. So defense is below 332 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 4: the fifty percent threshold across a variety of metrics in 333 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 4: the NFL, of which the Bengals are won seven or 334 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 4: zero straight up and against the spread twenty nine points 335 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 4: per game thirteen touchdowns two interceptions. The Broncos are ranked 336 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 4: as a better team than the Bengals across the board 337 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 4: in all DVA metrics, Like it's over inflation on the 338 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 4: Broncos losing in prime time and the Bengals Joe Burrow 339 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:23,439 Speaker 4: looking like a superhero. 340 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 1: Literally another game that jumped out to me. I don't 341 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 1: like to bet. I don't like to bet bad teams. 342 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 1: But the Saints probably the worst humiliation in the league 343 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 1: this year, a standalone Monday night football game didn't score 344 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:42,440 Speaker 1: and it almost looked like they quit. Now they're at 345 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:46,479 Speaker 1: home getting a point against the horrible Raiders team Sharper Square. 346 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:50,639 Speaker 3: I don't even know what to say, Colin. 347 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 4: In all the years we've been doing this, I will 348 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 4: come on this show, whether it was at ESPN or 349 00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 4: here and try to get you to bet the ugly 350 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 4: team in the worst game, and you're like, no, not 351 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:06,639 Speaker 4: betting a game I don't want to watch, not betting 352 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 4: a bad quarterback. I was going through my notes before 353 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:11,399 Speaker 4: we came on the show, and I was thinking, all right, 354 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 4: what game am I going to get him to bet 355 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 4: that He's like, I haven't asked about it. It was 356 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 4: the Saints. I'm going to have to work on the 357 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 4: fly and think of a new game. Of course, we're 358 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 4: betting the Saints here like they're getting They just got 359 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:24,119 Speaker 4: blown out in prime. 360 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 3: Time, humiliated historically. 361 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 4: Historically, you bet that team blindfolded. It doesn't matter that 362 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:33,880 Speaker 4: they're playing JV players, it doesn't matter who their quarterback is, 363 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 4: they're at home, they're as as a dog. They just 364 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:41,640 Speaker 4: got blown out. Every sort of trend says you play 365 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 4: that team. On the other side, the Raiders. Look, they 366 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:47,639 Speaker 4: beat up on the Jags, but let's not be fooled. 367 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 4: They had a ten game losing streak and the Jags 368 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:52,160 Speaker 4: kept turning the ball over. 369 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 3: So I wouldn't be too. 370 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 4: Anxious to bet on the Raiders as road favorites in 371 00:20:58,200 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 4: this spot. 372 00:20:59,080 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 3: Give me the Saints. 373 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:02,640 Speaker 4: Now, I gotta scramble and think of what my other 374 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 4: game I'm going to try to get you to bed 375 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 4: is well. 376 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 1: I like the Falcons plus floor the Commanders, and the 377 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 1: reason I like it is, I mean, Jaden Daniels was 378 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 1: a hero at the end, but he just tried to 379 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:16,440 Speaker 1: give that thing away early. I think Michael Pennix is 380 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:18,640 Speaker 1: really good. I think they have a good offensive line 381 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 1: will hold the Commander's pass rush off four points is 382 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 1: a lot. I do not I think the Falcons are 383 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 1: gonna be competitive. Listen, they're playing for a division title, 384 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 1: all right. This is a big game for them. So 385 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 1: this is not like the Commander and the Commanders aren't 386 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 1: gonna get home field advantage. The Falcons can win home 387 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 1: field advantage with these wins down the stretch. It just 388 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:43,120 Speaker 1: seems to me, again, it wasn't that they just beat 389 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 1: the Giants. It's not just that, but Pennix's accuracy. Greg 390 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 1: Cosell talked about it this week. This this kid has 391 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 1: an arm. I don't care if it's windy. I like 392 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 1: the Falcons plus four sharper square, totally sharp. 393 00:21:57,840 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 4: Wise, guys, bet this down from four and a half too, 394 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 4: or I'd be surprised if it isn't a three and 395 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:05,200 Speaker 4: a half or lower by the game. A lot of 396 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:09,880 Speaker 4: the reasons you just indicated, Michael Pennix had a lot 397 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 4: of fans into the draft, A lot of professional betters 398 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 4: don't forget. 399 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 3: The draft has become a huge betting event. 400 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:20,639 Speaker 4: Professional betters are digging into game film from college the 401 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 4: same way they're digging into game film on a week 402 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 4: to week basis now because there's a money making opportunity. 403 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 3: There's a market, right. Michael Penix is one of those guys. 404 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:33,119 Speaker 4: Not dissimilar from Jayden Daniels, not dissimilar from bow Knicks, 405 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 4: not that dissimilar from Caleb Williams. 406 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 3: A ton of film on the guy. 407 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:40,680 Speaker 4: He played a lot of college football, and some of 408 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 4: the reasons why these guys who are coming in and 409 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:47,200 Speaker 4: having successes because they played so many games. We saw 410 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:50,200 Speaker 4: how accurate he could be. I love watching Penicks throw 411 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:53,919 Speaker 4: like I think his ball is so pretty. And also 412 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 4: I don't think in a primetime game he is someone 413 00:22:57,640 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 4: who would be cowed by the lights the way other 414 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 4: rookies might. He's played in massive games. Talk about college 415 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 4: football National Championship. That's a big game. I don't care 416 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:10,679 Speaker 4: if it's in college like that has huge steaks. So 417 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 4: he's been in spots. He's older. 418 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 3: I like it too. 419 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 1: A couple of favorites that jump out to me. The 420 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 1: Bills slip walked, sleepwalk through their win over New England, 421 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 1: so you get those when you're a dominant team. The 422 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 1: Jets outplayed the Rams, had a horrible fourth quarter. Now 423 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 1: you've got Aaron Rodgers is not sure he's coming back. 424 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 1: There's more noise than ever. Aaron's had a good last 425 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:47,200 Speaker 1: six to eight weeks. But I think Buffalo is a 426 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 1: significantly better team. Jetstro a little dinged up. Garrett Wilson 427 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 1: is unhappy with his targets. I think Buffalo flexes here. 428 00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 1: I think Buffalo also watched the Ravens and the chief 429 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 1: Yief's flex and play brilliantly. As favorites, there's a separation. 430 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,479 Speaker 1: You know, I don't like big favorites. I'm gonna take 431 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 1: Buffalo minus eight and a half off all horrible winning 432 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 1: performance Sharper square. 433 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 3: So it's a little square. 434 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 4: The numbers moved, you know, it's moved in the Jets direction. 435 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:20,879 Speaker 4: I can't fault you if you want to do this. 436 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 4: Everything you just said is are all the reasons why 437 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 4: I was on the Bills last week. 438 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:28,359 Speaker 3: I thought they'd want to flex. 439 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 4: I thought they'd want to respond to Lamar Jackson throwing 440 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 4: five touchdowns against the Giants and put Josh Allen back 441 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 4: in the leadership position and get a stranglehold on that MVP. 442 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 4: It didn't happen right Drake may was running, he was 443 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 4: throwing accurately. Obviously different scenario, I lean into the Bills again. 444 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 4: To be honest, I feel like everything you just said 445 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:56,200 Speaker 4: about the Jets is true, which is why I would 446 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:59,200 Speaker 4: want to back the Bills. Aaron Rodgers had been healthy 447 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 4: for the past three weeks. He's now got a minor 448 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:05,880 Speaker 4: MCL issue on his knee. This team is a train wreck. 449 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 4: I was all over the Jets last week. Whise guys 450 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 4: were in the Jets last week. You cannot count in 451 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:16,239 Speaker 4: the Jets because the decision making of jeff Olbrick is 452 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 4: so bad. He does not seem to understand the basic 453 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 4: constructs of when to go fourth and fourth down, situational 454 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 4: play clock management. If the Jets kick a field goal, 455 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:31,680 Speaker 4: I'm fourth and four from the Rams twelve yard line. 456 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 4: Last week, they're up twelve to six, and that's the ballgame, 457 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:38,919 Speaker 4: Like the Rams were not doing anything. Instead, he twice 458 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:40,919 Speaker 4: went fourth and fourth downs and that's basically when the 459 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 4: Rams won the game. So it's hard to bet on 460 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 4: the Jets because jeff Elbrick is just so bad at. 461 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:53,200 Speaker 1: This one more NFL game, This line's moved back and forth. 462 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:57,159 Speaker 1: Panthers getting seven and a half division game at the 463 00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:00,080 Speaker 1: Bucks Tampa is the better team. But all make the 464 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 1: argument in the last month, Bryce Young is playing like 465 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 1: a number one pick and c. J. Stroud's playing like 466 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 1: a number two pick. The Panthers can move the ball. 467 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:12,160 Speaker 1: They've got a good coach. They can move the ball. 468 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:18,440 Speaker 1: Tampa's dinged up. I think they'll win, but division game 469 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 1: a hot quarterback, it kind of feels like an easy one. 470 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:27,640 Speaker 4: Sharper square, totally sharp. I haven't understood this line all week. 471 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 4: The wise guys haven't either. It was at eight and 472 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:32,679 Speaker 4: a half, it went down to eight. Now it's at 473 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,160 Speaker 4: seven and a half because money has been coming under 474 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:37,199 Speaker 4: the Panthers. I think you're good until seven. You know, 475 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:40,399 Speaker 4: at seven you just sort of leave it alone. You 476 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 4: want to get the hook off of that key number. 477 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:44,159 Speaker 4: A lot of games end on seven. That's when we 478 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 4: talk about key numbers three, seven, those are the biggest ones. 479 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:55,120 Speaker 4: What's interesting about this game is a month ago they 480 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 4: played it in Carolina, Tampa was a six and a 481 00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:00,880 Speaker 4: half point favorite on the road, one in overtime because 482 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 4: Tuba Hubbard fumbled the ball in field goal. 483 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:04,359 Speaker 3: Range for the Bucks. 484 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:08,919 Speaker 4: Right, So now you take this game to Tampa, Tampa 485 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:10,959 Speaker 4: is only a point and a half better. When the 486 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 4: line came out went from six and a half to eight, right, 487 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:17,359 Speaker 4: Normally home field is three points. What that's telling you 488 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:21,680 Speaker 4: is two things. One, bookmakers have generally regraded the Panthers. 489 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:24,160 Speaker 4: They started off one and seven against the spread. Bryce 490 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 4: Young was terrible. Professional betters had been betting, betting betting 491 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 4: the Panthers. I'm sure listeners remember early in the year. 492 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 4: I was all over the Panthers. Bryce Young two point 493 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:36,119 Speaker 4: zero is everything you just said. He's rolling out of 494 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:40,479 Speaker 4: the pocket using his legs, incredibly accurate, standing in the pocket, 495 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 4: taking really hard hits. He's been great. He's been a 496 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:47,359 Speaker 4: really good quarterback, much better than CJ. Stroud, Like you said, 497 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 4: so bookmakers have adjusted to that. To me, eight was 498 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 4: still a little too high. Wise, guys agree, you're sharp. 499 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 1: Take the Panthers a college football line that jumps out 500 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 1: to me. I don't believe you can win a national 501 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,680 Speaker 1: championship with a bad defense. That's why I think Texas 502 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 1: and Ohio State probably play for the Natty, and I 503 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 1: do think Georgia and Notre Dame are at least in 504 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:14,400 Speaker 1: play to play for the national championship. Oregon's defense is bad. 505 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 1: Boise State ran on it, Ohio State did whatever they 506 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 1: wanted on it. Penn State did whatever they wanted against 507 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:28,439 Speaker 1: the Ducks. I'm trying to forget the Tennessee game because 508 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 1: it was in Columbus, but Ohio State has played in 509 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 1: the Rose Bowl before. Whether it's not a factor. I 510 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 1: said before the season, Oregon's going to beat Ohio State 511 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 1: at Otson. Ohio State will beat them in the rematch. 512 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:46,240 Speaker 1: It's under a field goal. I'd take the Buckeye sharper square. 513 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 3: Yeah. 514 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 4: Look, that's the sharp side right now, right, and that's 515 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 4: where the money is. And when you see money, and 516 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 4: sort of any platform you're looking at, you can usually 517 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 4: get betty percentages and money percentages. Money right now is 518 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 4: on Ohio State. And look, you wouldn't expect Ohio State, 519 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 4: which locks to Michigan lost to Oregon, has had a 520 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 4: lot of drama, questions about Ryan Day, the fact they 521 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 4: beat up Tennessee the way they did. Oregon has been 522 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 4: out of the spotlight for a little bit. There's a 523 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 4: lot of sentiment about the Buckeyes defense, like you just said, 524 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 4: So that's the way the money has been going in 525 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 4: this game. Look, it's fascinating, it's rare. 526 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 1: You're going to. 527 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 4: Get the second ranked, third ranked whatever it is team 528 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 4: to be the favorite of the number one ranked team. 529 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:35,720 Speaker 4: But that's the spot we're in because of everything you 530 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 4: just said. 531 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 1: All right, there's a game I want you to kind 532 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 1: of explain to me. So the Cardinals are missing both 533 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 1: their offensive tackles. They have nothing to play for. The 534 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:59,480 Speaker 1: Rams are on a heater. The line starts at like six, 535 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:02,720 Speaker 1: it's now six and a half. Arizona doesn't travel well, 536 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 1: so from time to time the Rams can feel like 537 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 1: a road team at home. This won't be one of 538 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 1: these times. I get the better quarterback, the better coach. 539 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 1: The Rams now are completely healthy. I feel like they're 540 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 1: better than the line. That Jets game was built for 541 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 1: them to lose early game, cold weather, good defense, and 542 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 1: they played a brilliant fourth quarter. I feel like it's 543 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:27,480 Speaker 1: six to six and a half. I have to bet 544 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 1: the Rams. I know it's divisional sharper square if I 545 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 1: like the Rams. 546 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 4: Well, it's totally sharp if you like the Rams. But 547 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,880 Speaker 4: this is sort of the nuance of the betting business 548 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 4: is getting the best of the number. This game on 549 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:47,880 Speaker 4: Sunday night opened Rams at minus four, So I'll do 550 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 4: the favorites with professional better Simon Hunter on Sunday night 551 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 4: on the Volume podcast network. We'll do it go on 552 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 4: air at seven thirty. 553 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 3: We'll do it live. We're off air before the Sunday 554 00:30:58,200 --> 00:30:58,600 Speaker 3: night game. 555 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 4: The timing is relevant here because we will preview the 556 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:06,560 Speaker 4: games that we like the most first glance, you know, 557 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 4: gut instinct, not having done any research for the following week. 558 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,720 Speaker 4: This game stood out immediately. We started talking about the 559 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:18,240 Speaker 4: Rams minus four. Why is this number? 560 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:19,480 Speaker 3: Solow? 561 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 4: The Rams just got out of a trap game against 562 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 4: the Jets, and they won. The week before, they got lucky, 563 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 4: the Niners dropped a couple interceptions. They beat the Niners 564 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 4: in a monsoon. Now they're going home, chance to clinch 565 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 4: the division against a team that is down. James Connor injured. 566 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 4: We saw him practicing but still limping. Offensive linemen injured. 567 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 4: Not a very good defense. A coach who doesn't know 568 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 4: how to keep his team up yet the way they 569 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:50,760 Speaker 4: say Sean McVay would, or even Mike McCarthy did with 570 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 4: the Cowboys against the Bucks. The number during that show 571 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:58,160 Speaker 4: went from four to four and a half to five 572 00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 4: to five and a half. Thirty minutes, it moved a 573 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:06,320 Speaker 4: point and a half. By Monday morning it was six. 574 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 4: And so when you're talking about why isn't it sharp 575 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:12,719 Speaker 4: to bet the Rams now, because the wise guy's been 576 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:15,120 Speaker 4: betting it since it was at four, four and a half, five, 577 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 4: five and a half, and a little bit at six 578 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:19,440 Speaker 4: until it got to six and a half. It got 579 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 4: to seven, and wise guys started betting the Cardinals at seven. 580 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 3: Again, the Rams are the right side, but if. 581 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:31,320 Speaker 4: You want to win as a better long term then 582 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:34,160 Speaker 4: you have to have enough discipline to choose the best 583 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 4: of the number and then walk away. If you don't 584 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,080 Speaker 4: feel like you're getting it. You can still bet the 585 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 4: Rams at six and a half. You'll probably end up winning, 586 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 4: but it's not going to be a sharp side at 587 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 4: six and a half. All right. 588 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:49,719 Speaker 1: I gotta tell you I've had a lousy year betting, 589 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 1: but so far I've got seven of eight division winners. 590 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 1: I picked a surprise playoff team every year. It was 591 00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 1: the Washington Commanders. I pick a team that will double 592 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:02,440 Speaker 1: the Vegas win told it was the Denver Broncos. I 593 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 1: said this on the air today on TV on FS one. 594 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:07,880 Speaker 1: There's the old saying with kids, the days are long, 595 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 1: but the years fly by, and I feel like with 596 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,960 Speaker 1: the NFL week to week it's crazy, but over the 597 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 1: course of a season, it's very predictable. So I've had 598 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:20,480 Speaker 1: a terrible year betting because I tend to take underdogs 599 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:24,520 Speaker 1: and value. You know, I'm always seeking value over favorites, 600 00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 1: but a lot of favorites. Of one is I'm trying 601 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:32,240 Speaker 1: to think. I missed badly on the Jacksonville Jaguars badly, 602 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 1: but I'm proudest on my commander's pick. If I said 603 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 1: to you, give me your width and the one you'll 604 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:43,960 Speaker 1: plant the flag and as you're really proud of this year. 605 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:50,960 Speaker 4: Oh, it's It's interesting. The Width started as the Panthers, 606 00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:53,680 Speaker 4: just because I loved him. I just thought this team, 607 00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:57,120 Speaker 4: this coach, this quarterback, this offensive line. More than anything, 608 00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:00,000 Speaker 4: I just thought they were going to be much much better. 609 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,720 Speaker 4: It ended up being a whit because they started off 610 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:07,480 Speaker 4: so badly and I lost so much on them early 611 00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:10,960 Speaker 4: in the year. I'll take a little bit credit that 612 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,359 Speaker 4: they got better, and so I'm glad about that. 613 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:14,799 Speaker 3: To me, the. 614 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:19,040 Speaker 4: One I'm most proud of is the Chargers. I love 615 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:22,360 Speaker 4: Jim Harbaugh and we didn't even talk about that game. 616 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:25,960 Speaker 4: I think he's a football savant, and I think that 617 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:30,040 Speaker 4: what he did against the Broncos is the exact reason 618 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:35,000 Speaker 4: why his teams turn around so quickly no matter the 619 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:38,759 Speaker 4: talent level. He knows the rules, he knows strategy, he 620 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:43,560 Speaker 4: knows clock management so well. What he did at the 621 00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:46,200 Speaker 4: end of that first half against Sean Payton, who's a 622 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:48,719 Speaker 4: brilliant coach, was a masterclass. 623 00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:49,080 Speaker 3: Right. 624 00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:52,400 Speaker 4: He takes the time out so they have to punt. 625 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:56,720 Speaker 4: The punk leads to the roughing the returner, the personal 626 00:34:56,760 --> 00:35:00,560 Speaker 4: file that leads to the free kick leads to the 627 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:03,760 Speaker 4: Chargers having momentum and they win that game going away. 628 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:07,319 Speaker 4: That's good decision making, and you don't see That's what 629 00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:09,080 Speaker 4: you don't see from Jeff Albrook. It's what you're not 630 00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:12,279 Speaker 4: seeing from Jared Mayo, like you see the difference there. 631 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,000 Speaker 4: So to me, I'm most proud of the Chargers because 632 00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:19,040 Speaker 4: I thought they'd be good this year and I played 633 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:20,640 Speaker 4: it that way. By the way, I'll also tell you 634 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:23,040 Speaker 4: that the bet that I always love the most, which 635 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:26,160 Speaker 4: I'm still in play for, I always do sort of 636 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:30,440 Speaker 4: a round robin on the teams that are at twelve 637 00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:34,719 Speaker 4: to one or shorter to win the Super Bowl, and 638 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:38,360 Speaker 4: I will bet them in Super Bowl matchups because you 639 00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:41,760 Speaker 4: can usually get those at like between twenty and thirty 640 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:44,880 Speaker 4: five to one. So you bet the Chiefs and the Allions, 641 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,760 Speaker 4: you bet the Chiefs and the Eagles, you bet the 642 00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,160 Speaker 4: Ravens and the Lions, you bet the Ravens and the Eagles, 643 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:53,040 Speaker 4: and you bet the Bills and et cetera, et cetera, 644 00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:57,960 Speaker 4: et cetera. I'm still alive with that. Even with the Bengals. 645 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,040 Speaker 4: I'm alive with that if they made the playoffs. So 646 00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:02,799 Speaker 4: I always like that bet and feel good now that 647 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:09,799 Speaker 4: the Chiefs and the Ravens at least are two of 648 00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:12,040 Speaker 4: the teams that I most heavily favored at the beginning 649 00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:14,080 Speaker 4: of the year, along with the Eagles and the Lions, 650 00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:17,240 Speaker 4: and I feel good that those matchups are still in play. 651 00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:20,120 Speaker 1: Chargers minus four at New England. As long as we're 652 00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:23,960 Speaker 1: talking about Harbaugh tend to like teams favored. JK. Dobbins 653 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:27,839 Speaker 1: should play Gus Edwards out which side of a leen? Oh? 654 00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:29,080 Speaker 3: I totally lean Chargers. 655 00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:34,759 Speaker 4: And this is a walking into a hornet's nest. Like 656 00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:38,040 Speaker 4: in any other year, you mentioned the favorites, right in 657 00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:42,040 Speaker 4: any other year, We're playing the Patriots here we're playing 658 00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:46,399 Speaker 4: a team that's out of it at home more than 659 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:50,840 Speaker 4: a field goal underdog, a team traveling that's fighting to 660 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:55,600 Speaker 4: make the playoffs. Every trend will tell you against the 661 00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:59,280 Speaker 4: spread in this scenario, the underdog is the right play. 662 00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:03,080 Speaker 4: But for what we just talked about, I think Harbaugh's 663 00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:06,640 Speaker 4: a brilliant coach. I think that teams are making more 664 00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:09,640 Speaker 4: aggressive decisions, so they're scoring more points. 665 00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:11,360 Speaker 3: I think that the fact. 666 00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:14,719 Speaker 4: That the most teams are starting field position at the 667 00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:17,759 Speaker 4: thirty yard line is getting them closer to scoring in 668 00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:19,719 Speaker 4: the other side of the field and making them more 669 00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:23,439 Speaker 4: comfortable on fourth and four from the forty going forward 670 00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:24,759 Speaker 4: instead of kicking a field goal. 671 00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,600 Speaker 3: And so I think that's one of the reasons. 672 00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:30,840 Speaker 4: Why we're seeing underdogs lose so much this year and 673 00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:35,520 Speaker 4: favorites win is there's more opportunity for them to score 674 00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:39,800 Speaker 4: at a higher rate in bigger chunks, and it's impacting betting, 675 00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:42,120 Speaker 4: Like betters are not having a great year. You know, 676 00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:46,640 Speaker 4: favorites have gone seventy one percent straight up this year, 677 00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:50,239 Speaker 4: just winning straight up. That's the most profitable season since 678 00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:55,520 Speaker 4: two thy thirteen teams getting over sixty percent at the spread. 679 00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:58,360 Speaker 4: So we talk about fading the public. We want to 680 00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:01,640 Speaker 4: be contrarian because the public doesn't know anything. Teams getting 681 00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:05,080 Speaker 4: over sixty percent of the spread, covering fifty six percent 682 00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:11,200 Speaker 4: this year against the spread, home underdogs forty three percent 683 00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:15,960 Speaker 4: against the spread this year. That'll be the third least 684 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:20,400 Speaker 4: profitable season since nineteen ninety. So for people like you, 685 00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:22,880 Speaker 4: people like me, I want to fade the public. I 686 00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,520 Speaker 4: want to bet home underdogs. That's usually where the value is. 687 00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:27,279 Speaker 4: It's been a rough go of it. 688 00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:33,320 Speaker 1: Man Chad Melman, co host of The Favorites. Good luck, Buddy, 689 00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:38,120 Speaker 1: good luck to all of us. The volume