1 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:11,639 Speaker 1: This is straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. What is up 2 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 1: straight Fire? F A M. It's me Jason McIntyre Straight 3 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 1: Fire for Monday, August Night. I hope everybody had just 4 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: the best weekend of the summer. I had another phenomenal weekend. Um, 5 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 1: coming off the Undisputed hosting all week Man, it was 6 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 1: good to do absolutely no work or one of those 7 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 1: rare weekends where I was not really on the computer. Um, 8 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 1: obviously it was updating my Instagram with irrelevant shit, but 9 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 1: I was not doing like any actual work. I did 10 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 1: some NFL previews to get ready because there's just never 11 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:47,160 Speaker 1: enough to dig into the NFL. But I finally got 12 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:49,879 Speaker 1: to like down shift. Uh. The wife and kids were 13 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 1: out of town over the weekend, and I just had 14 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 1: such a such a Jason McEntire weekend, Like basically, um, 15 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 1: my wife on listen to this, so I don't mind 16 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 1: saying it. We got our new TV that I mentioned 17 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 1: I think last week, and they have a free subscription 18 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 1: to Apple TV. So what do I do? I just 19 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:11,040 Speaker 1: I'll take the free script description and uh, I had 20 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 1: started watching the show The Morning Show. Uh, Jennifer Anniston, 21 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 1: Reese Witherspoon, Steve Carrell on a on a flight recently 22 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, I'll just watch that, and um, 23 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 1: I didn't realize every episode was an hour. But it's 24 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 1: a season ten episodes, and I think I finished the 25 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:29,479 Speaker 1: season over the weekend. And I never do that. I'm 26 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 1: not one of these binge watching guys. Um, but I 27 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 1: did that. Ted Lasso is next, by the way. I 28 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 1: keep hearing amazing things, so I'll have to check that out. Um. 29 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 1: But like I played pick up basketball, um Saturday morning 30 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 1: with kind of a new group of dudes, just because 31 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 1: I didn't know the radio show. And um, one of 32 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 1: the guys playing I had played against in the league before. 33 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 1: He played quarterback at Notre Dame. Uh, this guy by 34 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 1: the name of Dame Christ. He ended up transferring to 35 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 1: Kansas after I think for like his fifth year or whatever. 36 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 1: And you know, he's a big dude. Um. I think 37 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 1: he's like six four, and he was his playing weight 38 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 1: was like two thirty five, but he's now like two fifty. 39 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:10,920 Speaker 1: He's just a big, big guy. And um, you know, 40 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 1: this is an outdoor game and he's a huge dude. 41 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:16,920 Speaker 1: I don't like playing against big dudes outside. I'm not 42 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 1: taking charges I'm not fouling. I'm just letting a guy go. 43 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:21,920 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, you know, that's just that's how it is. 44 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 1: And I got switched onto him a couple of times, 45 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 1: and the second he would hesitate, I would just automatically 46 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 1: switch back to my guy and kind of laugh all 47 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 1: doing it, like dude, I'm not doing this. I'm not 48 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 1: I'm not getting an elbow in the face from this tank. Um. 49 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 1: And the best part was I you know, um, I 50 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 1: don't mind saying this. So my my new thing when 51 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 1: I do sports too, is I wear like a long 52 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 1: sleeve shirt over it, usually because it's sunny out here 53 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:48,239 Speaker 1: in California, and um, I warm up with like the 54 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 1: long sleeves. Then you take off the long sleeves and 55 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 1: it's usually I'm wearing a sleeveless shirt. Um, just because 56 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 1: I'm a loser. And Rob G is now laughing. Um, 57 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 1: so we're like splitting up teams and then I take 58 00:02:57,600 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 1: off the long sleeve shirt. They're like, whoa wait a minute, 59 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 1: wait a minute, We've we need to change things. And 60 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 1: I'm like, what I only knew like a couple of 61 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 1: the guys, and you know, they thought I was good 62 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:08,239 Speaker 1: because I like he has looked the part. So the 63 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 1: first couple of games, you know, I was all right, 64 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:14,080 Speaker 1: and finally I get into a groove at this crappy 65 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 1: outdoor court with the double rims, and I think I 66 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 1: made four threes in a row in one game and 67 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 1: we just start dominating and it ended up going really, 68 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 1: really well. It was a great workout, but its outdoors, 69 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 1: you know, on like a rough court, and man, my 70 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 1: legs were heavy the rest of the day. And then 71 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:30,920 Speaker 1: I played volleyball Sunday morning. So definitely a a weekend 72 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 1: of Jason. Not a lot of work done. Also, cable 73 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 1: guy came. I just thought I'd add that to the 74 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 1: docket of really really fun things. Now a couple of 75 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 1: house cleaning notes. Yes, we will get to um a 76 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 1: pretty insane NFL contract that just got signed. We may 77 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 1: may dive into the U S Gold Medal, although I 78 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 1: don't really care that much. I'm telling you right now, 79 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 1: I got nothing on the NFL Hall of Fame introductions. 80 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 1: I think I mentioned this last year at this time. 81 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 1: It just doesn't do it for me. I can't watch it. 82 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 1: No disrespect to the there's their amazing congrats on careers 83 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 1: and getting into the Hall of Fame and the jacket. 84 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 1: I just I don't care about the speeches. I can't 85 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 1: watch it does it does nothing for me? Um but 86 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 1: I want to and the Big Top. The other big 87 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 1: topic is this um NBA Summer Summer League over reaction season. 88 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 1: It is in full swing. I was off Twitter largely 89 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 1: on Sunday and then I go on you know, Sunday 90 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 1: night before uh starting to dig into some stuff from 91 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:29,160 Speaker 1: the weekend, and I'm like, people are freaking out because 92 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 1: Evan Mobley only had the twelve points. It's like, well, 93 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 1: all right, we'll get to that in a minute, but 94 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: I need to off the top. This show on Apple TV, 95 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:39,720 Speaker 1: The Morning Show, Rob. Have you seen The Morning Show 96 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:42,160 Speaker 1: with Steve Carrell and those guys? No? I have not. 97 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 1: Well do you have Apple TV or no? Okay, I know, 98 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 1: I know you are a high roller with those expensive 99 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 1: TVs and that extensive vehicle. I just assumed you had 100 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 1: Apple TV. So my brother has been telling me to 101 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:54,839 Speaker 1: get this for like two or three years now. Anyways, 102 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:57,719 Speaker 1: the Morning Show is awesome, and I probably like it 103 00:04:57,760 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 1: a little bit more than I should because I, you know, 104 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 1: five years ago, I moved out to l A for 105 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 1: this stuff, UM, and I'm you know, it's it's all 106 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:08,280 Speaker 1: like political stuff and dirty backstabbing and power place and 107 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:10,599 Speaker 1: I know that there's gonna be people watching that thinking 108 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 1: there's just no way that TV is really like that. Um, 109 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:18,160 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say some of that stuff happens. Okay, 110 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: it's very real, and I'm sure Rob's seen her on 111 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:24,280 Speaker 1: the radio side. Listen, man, it is kind of a 112 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 1: cutthroat business. And obviously this is a TV show. It 113 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 1: takes into the next level. Um, it's probably too much 114 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 1: drama for some of you guys, but the some of 115 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 1: the stuff I've seen, I felt like I skipped undergrad 116 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 1: not working in any other TV markets and then getting 117 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:43,839 Speaker 1: to FS one and I instantly jumped to grad school 118 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 1: and it was like, holy hell, I just learned a 119 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 1: ton in two years. Um, it's a good show. I 120 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:52,479 Speaker 1: would highly recommend it's called The Morning Show. UM in 121 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 1: related to television news, just because I'm on a tangent here. Um. 122 00:05:57,080 --> 00:05:58,919 Speaker 1: Rob G was not even born when this woman was 123 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:02,679 Speaker 1: starring in epic TV shows in the eighties. But UM 124 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 1: Marquis Post, who was on a TV show called night 125 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 1: Court and on a TV show called The Fall guy 126 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 1: passed away over the weekend, and I know rob G 127 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:14,919 Speaker 1: has no idea who she is, and she's like, all right, 128 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:18,280 Speaker 1: rob let's get it on, Jason, come on, keep moving. Um. 129 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:22,720 Speaker 1: It just makes me think of a different kind of 130 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:26,799 Speaker 1: era in television. And you know, I know everybody's stream 131 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 1: stuff now and you can watch it whenever, and that's great, 132 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 1: and you know you'd watch it on your phone and 133 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 1: that's great, but there isn't the old vibe. And I 134 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:36,599 Speaker 1: know I sound like a really old dude talking about it, 135 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 1: but like, hey, it's Thursday night. We've got to watch 136 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:42,239 Speaker 1: the Cosby Show and Family Ties, we've got to watch 137 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 1: a different world. And you know, I would watch some 138 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:47,599 Speaker 1: of the Thursday in that line up with my family 139 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:50,039 Speaker 1: mostly my mom. My dad was like an early to sleep, 140 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 1: wake up early guy, and my brother and I would 141 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 1: get shuttled off to brush our teeth right after the 142 00:06:57,240 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 1: show before night Court, which is Family Ties Alex P. Keaton, 143 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 1: great show, Oh my gosh, um, And so I would 144 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 1: like kind of beg my mom, well, we gotta watch 145 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:07,360 Speaker 1: the night Court theme song because it was a show 146 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 1: that took place in New York City and they had 147 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 1: like the new York City backdrop during the credits, and 148 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 1: I'm a dreamer. Guys, if you had to pick this 149 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 1: up following me on social media and my career in 150 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 1: this podcast, like, I'm a dreamer. And I think I 151 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 1: kind of get that from my mom, who I don't. 152 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 1: I think I've told that she left home when she 153 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 1: was a teenager. She was in and in South America 154 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 1: and they lived in the bourbs. Um, not the burbs 155 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 1: like America. I'm talking like, not the swamp, but the 156 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 1: burbs of of Guyana in South America. And she didn't 157 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 1: want to go through uh you know what the what 158 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 1: the kids were usually going through at that age, which 159 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:45,239 Speaker 1: is basically like, hey, we're gonna arrange a marriage for you. Um. 160 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 1: So she bolted to go to the city and live 161 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 1: with her friends and their parents are working at a 162 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 1: jewelry store. Um. And I think I got that like 163 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 1: dreamer mentality. I love New York City. I had a 164 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 1: couple of job offers after college too, for in journalism 165 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 1: in small cities in Michigan and um, Kentucky, and I 166 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 1: was like, no, what am I gonna do there? I'm 167 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 1: just gonna be unhappy. I'm gonna want to like be 168 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 1: around big stuff and cool, exciting stuff. And I took 169 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 1: a job outside New York City. Um, and it's like 170 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 1: I lived in New York and now I live in 171 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 1: l A. And I just think that's kind of like, 172 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 1: that's kind of in my d n A. I really 173 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 1: do like that. Um yeah, I don't want to go 174 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 1: off out of tangent, although I probably already have, but like, 175 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 1: you got one life and living in New York City awesome, 176 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 1: met the wife there, now we're out in l A, 177 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 1: equally awesome. Another show Marky post was on besides Night 178 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 1: Corp in New York was The Fall Guy, based in 179 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:42,440 Speaker 1: l A. Love The Fall Guy. I don't know if 180 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:45,319 Speaker 1: you guys have um YouTube that theme song, but look 181 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:49,560 Speaker 1: it up, okay, Lee Major's classics stuff. I mean, it's 182 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:52,320 Speaker 1: really a great show. Um. I there was a time 183 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 1: where I would check the Guide and I would search 184 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 1: on the TV for Fall Guy just to see if 185 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:01,719 Speaker 1: it was like on on any channel. And now we'll 186 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 1: just record the series and watch them like while I 187 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:05,679 Speaker 1: was doing work. Don't really do that anymore. Okay, it's 188 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 1: probably time to get to sports now, right Yeah, yeah, sorry, 189 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 1: you see Rob always on. It's great yeah, Rob, so uh, 190 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 1: I saw your tweet last night about Kate Cunningham taking 191 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 1: it taking a dig at the number one overall part 192 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:25,440 Speaker 1: and Rob and and then that's what got me thinking 193 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 1: of Summer League season is in full effect. You guys, 194 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 1: remember who was the guy I think his name was 195 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 1: Anthony Anthony Morrow of the Warriors forty seven in a 196 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 1: Summer League game. Oh, Anthony Morrow is gonna start. Oh 197 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:42,079 Speaker 1: my gosh, guy's amazing. And then Anthony Randolph also of 198 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 1: the Warriors. I think at forty two. People are like, ah, jeezus, 199 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 1: guys are incredible. Oh, he's gonna be like people go overboard, 200 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:55,559 Speaker 1: Marco bell Marco Bella, there you go. Um. And like 201 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:58,679 Speaker 1: Kate Cunningham didn't really have a great debut, Evan Mobley 202 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 1: played head to head again Jalen Green obviously not matched 203 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 1: up on one another, and defense is not going to 204 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 1: translate in Summer League, which there's no defense played. And 205 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 1: Evan mobile was like six of seventeen. He had five 206 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 1: turnovers and six baskets, and Calves fans went on social media, 207 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 1: oh gosh, what a waste. This is just not gonna 208 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 1: work out, like talk about like a nineties year old 209 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 1: kid in a summer league game. Okay, now, my guy, 210 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 1: Jalen Green went off. I mean, Jalen Green looked great. Obviously, 211 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:31,320 Speaker 1: it's gonna be spectacularly twenty three and the Rockets. One. 212 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 1: Rockets are gonna be fun. I'll just tell you this. 213 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 1: They may lead the league in fund next year. Not 214 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 1: wins obviously, um, but they are just gonna get Buckets 215 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 1: able to pull some big upsets. They will probably lose 216 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 1: games by thirty five and then upset you know, the Lakers, Um, 217 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 1: who else is gonna be getting? They probably upset the Nets. Like, 218 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 1: It's just gonna be a wacky season for the Rockets. 219 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 1: But Rob, what was the reaction? Did you get one 220 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 1: to the cave cunning Camp tweet? I felt it was 221 00:10:57,120 --> 00:11:00,319 Speaker 1: an unnecessary dick. That's exactly what people were taking it 222 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 1: as a necessary dig. And I mean, if I'm gonna 223 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:06,839 Speaker 1: say anything bad about Kate Cunningham, I probably have already 224 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 1: said it. You know where we're me saying. I don't 225 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 1: think he's the surefire number one pick, you know that 226 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 1: kind of thing. I don't think he's gonna be bad. 227 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 1: But it's just interesting to me as somebody who's been 228 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 1: lower on him all season, dating back to his days 229 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 1: at Oklahoma State. That in his last three games away 230 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 1: from the Big Twelve, he's fourteen and fifty one shooting. 231 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 1: That's just interesting to me. I'm not saying that that's indicative. 232 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 1: I don't even remember who then tournament games were against. 233 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 1: One of them was against Oregon State. Oh strong dejug 234 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 1: or not of Oregon. I think they made like the 235 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 1: Elite eight. By the way, um yeah, let's I think 236 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 1: you're it's an unnecessary dig. But he probably gained some 237 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 1: clout among Pistons fans. I'm sure they're angry you're on 238 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 1: their radar. Now, that's well done. I mean, look, I 239 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 1: think he has enough skills where I think he's gonna 240 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 1: be very good in the NBA. And I've said on 241 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:00,199 Speaker 1: this podcast, I've said on social media that I think 242 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 1: Evan Mobley was the guy I would have taken at 243 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 1: number one. And he didn't have a good game either, 244 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 1: So it's not like that you can really take much 245 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 1: either or Um. I just I'm one of those people 246 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 1: that if I have a take until i'm proving wrong, 247 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:17,559 Speaker 1: I'm gonna double and triple and quadruple down in my take. 248 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 1: But here's the thing with a lot of these takes, 249 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 1: you can't even be proven wrong because you would be like, oh, 250 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 1: it's early, yeah, exactly like lo Angelo ball, how many 251 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:26,839 Speaker 1: people he had like four threes and of course you 252 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 1: know social media is freaking out. He's gonna make the NBA. 253 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:34,199 Speaker 1: Lavore was right next. Fox Sports Radio has the best 254 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 1: sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our 255 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 1: shows at Fox Sports Radio dot com and within the 256 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 1: I Heart Radio app search f s R to listen live. 257 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:46,440 Speaker 1: So I get a text rob over the weekend, still 258 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:50,439 Speaker 1: related to NBA folks. One of the guys who plays 259 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:54,320 Speaker 1: in my Wednesday basketball game, This guy I I didn't 260 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 1: know him like two years ago, and then I got 261 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:58,200 Speaker 1: to know him, and like you know, initially my read 262 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:02,560 Speaker 1: was Jesus, guy's really good at basket ball. Um, And 263 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 1: I'll never forget the first comment he made to me. 264 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 1: I like, I would go to the gym and lift, 265 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:08,560 Speaker 1: And then I went over to the basketball court and 266 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 1: I saw like guys were playing three on three. I 267 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 1: was like, oh, I'll play, but I wasn't dressed, I 268 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 1: didn't have sneakers, and I walk on the court and 269 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 1: this guy, who you know, is we're in a backwards hat. 270 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 1: Um goes those are you gonna play basketball? Knows or 271 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 1: something along those lines. I was like, who is this prick? 272 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:28,440 Speaker 1: I was like, what the hell? Uh? And he turned 273 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 1: out he's a super cool guy. We're good buddies. And 274 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:36,319 Speaker 1: he sends me this text on Saturday, random out of 275 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:38,679 Speaker 1: the blue. By the way, he is one of the 276 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 1: people who was in the semi Simone Biles conversation that 277 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 1: I referenced here. Um, he sends me this text. His 278 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:48,320 Speaker 1: name is Derek. It goes, best version of themselves? Argument 279 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:52,200 Speaker 1: was lost by you? This is just that's all he says. 280 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 1: No like, no mention of hey on your pod or anything. 281 00:13:57,080 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 1: Just this is the best version of themselves? Argument was 282 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:03,719 Speaker 1: us by you and I right on the podcast. How 283 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 1: did I lose? And he goes and Rob G's gonna 284 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:09,680 Speaker 1: just want to take a victory lap. Yeah, the other 285 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 1: argument was better. And then I had to go back 286 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 1: and really listen to it. And I don't know, Rob, 287 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 1: for anybody who missed that better version of themselves conversation, NBA, 288 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 1: since you are the alleged victor in this subjective discussion, 289 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 1: Uh see, how you don't have to give credit um, 290 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 1: better version of themselves. So remind the people while we 291 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 1: were talking about guys playing alongside Lebron James, and your 292 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 1: argument was that if he's able to elevate you to 293 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 1: a championship level player, then you are he's getting the 294 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 1: best version out of yourself. And I'm arguing specifically its 295 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 1: relates to other superstars. What we're talking about other superstars 296 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 1: alongside Lebron. My argument was that in order to be 297 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 1: successful alongside Lebron, the other superstars usually have to take 298 00:14:57,680 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 1: a step back and they have to play a lesser 299 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 1: version of themselves in order to be successful alongside Lebron James. 300 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 1: That was the argument. I I just I think we 301 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 1: went back and forth over I think the word worse 302 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 1: was used. I don't know a couple of times. So like, 303 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 1: did Kevin Durant become sorry, Kevin Love becoming worse player? 304 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 1: Did they become worse players next to Lebron? Um? And 305 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 1: I definitely don't think they were worse, They were different, um. 306 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 1: And it reminded me so over the weekend, obviously I 307 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 1: gave it some more thought and this Steve Jobs had 308 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 1: said something, um just of course, because Steve Jobs is 309 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 1: a legend a players, hire A players and be players 310 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 1: higher ce players, A players. They're not threatened by anybody. 311 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 1: They want to work with the best. Lebron goes out 312 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 1: and gets a players Russell Westbrooks and a player he is. Well, 313 00:15:58,200 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 1: we don't love him. He's got a lot of faunts. 314 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 1: He's an a player. I mean basically everywhere he goes, 315 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 1: he gets to the playoffs. They may not go far 316 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 1: in the playoffs, but they get there. He's in a player. 317 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 1: Lebron wants to play with eight players, be high, be players, 318 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 1: hire sea players and think about this. At your job, 319 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 1: your task to go out and hire some folks. Hey, man, 320 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 1: we need this guy. Can we need a guy who 321 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 1: does this? Can you go get it? Do you want 322 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 1: to hire the best or do you want to hire 323 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 1: somebody who's gonna definitely be below you and not threaten 324 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 1: you and possibly pass you later. I think you want 325 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 1: to hire the best. Like when I go play pick 326 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 1: up basketball, I could easily say, man, I need to 327 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 1: find some tomato can so I can just light it up. 328 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 1: I don't want to do that. I only want to 329 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 1: play with players better than me. How else am I 330 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 1: gonna get better? I want to be around greatness. The 331 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 1: best players helped me raise my level. I mean, Lebron 332 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 1: could go out and say I don't want to play 333 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 1: with A's, I gotta get me some bees and sees 334 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 1: that's someone he's doing. He's getting the best because he 335 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 1: knows the best will adjust to be around him the best. 336 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:04,880 Speaker 1: I mean, Lebron is the best um of all time, 337 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 1: and so I don't know. I still it's just tough 338 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:13,639 Speaker 1: for me. Like, Okay, James Harden was how many MVPs 339 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 1: won one or two? The only has one? Okay, did 340 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 1: he become worse playing with the nets or different? I 341 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:23,639 Speaker 1: thought when he was playing with the nets, it was 342 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 1: the best he'd ever seen him play, even though his 343 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 1: stats were way yet because he was running point better 344 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:31,639 Speaker 1: than any point guard in the NBA, which is a 345 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:36,200 Speaker 1: point guard league right now. Okay, so they were the 346 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 1: best team in the league. Correct? How could you say 347 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 1: they're the best team in the lead. They only played 348 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 1: seven games together. They were favored the entire season. Okay, 349 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:48,680 Speaker 1: So when he was on the Rockets, were they ever 350 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:51,639 Speaker 1: the best team in the league? Uh? No, because the 351 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 1: Warriors existed, And that's that's not a good argument for you. Jason. 352 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:58,679 Speaker 1: They just happened to play in the era of the 353 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 1: greatest team argue le in NBA history. Yeah, but I 354 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:06,399 Speaker 1: guess pre Duranty they existed, but he wasn't what he 355 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:10,639 Speaker 1: was um he was, I mean hard. It wasn't like 356 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:14,879 Speaker 1: M V P caliber I think in like But I 357 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 1: think in seven team was when he raised his level? 358 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:20,880 Speaker 1: Right or was it sixteen? Now it's right around there. Okay, 359 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:24,199 Speaker 1: here here's a question, Chris Paul. Would you say that 360 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 1: the best version of Chris Paul before this season was 361 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 1: with those Rockets? Mm hmm m hm. Well, I mean 362 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:41,880 Speaker 1: they basically took what I think is the greatest team 363 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 1: in NBA history, Currie Durant Clay Draymond. They took him 364 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 1: to seven and they led three to I think that 365 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:54,679 Speaker 1: was a better accomplishment than what they did this playoffs 366 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:56,920 Speaker 1: when they beat up the Lakers when they were hurt, 367 00:18:57,320 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 1: and they beat the Nuggets without more and they beat 368 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:03,680 Speaker 1: the Clipper right. Would you so? I think better accomplishment 369 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 1: and best version of the players two different arguments. Yeah, 370 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:09,679 Speaker 1: I would need to look closer at the stats. But 371 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 1: aren't those things tied together? Rob Sometimes but sometimes they're not. 372 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 1: I mean Chris Bosh I think was I hate to 373 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 1: keep bringing back the Lebron guys, but Chris Bosh was 374 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:24,919 Speaker 1: really really good in Toronto. I mean he he was 375 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:31,159 Speaker 1: a fantastic player. To the Miami and he becomes a 376 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 1: pick and pop big man. He becomes Channing Fry with 377 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:40,640 Speaker 1: more defense, Like I know that he but instrumental. Wait, wait, 378 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 1: he's not Channing f I think he was an All star, 379 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 1: but that's how they used him. They used him as 380 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:49,399 Speaker 1: a pick and pop big man who played defense. Like, so, 381 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:51,439 Speaker 1: what do you think was used to the best of 382 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 1: his abilities? And eleven guy in Toronto? What was the 383 00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 1: best of his abilities? Twenty four and eleven guy in 384 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 1: Toronto out in the first or second round? Or pick 385 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 1: and pop seventeen and ten? Uh and winning titles Toronto? 386 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:11,440 Speaker 1: Really yes? Like, so it's weird you say that I 387 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:14,640 Speaker 1: would be willing to bet significant amounts of money Chris 388 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:21,879 Speaker 1: Bosh would say, um, Miami because they won. But that's 389 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 1: that's of course he's going to say that. You ask 390 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:27,920 Speaker 1: anybody else who's like objective outside of what they're doing 391 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 1: outside that team, and they're gonna say, yeah, Chris Bosh 392 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 1: was a monster in Toronto. When we got into to Miami, 393 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 1: it was a little bit clunky, so he had to 394 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 1: morph his game into this, this and this. It's still 395 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 1: a month. He's still capable of being a monster. He 396 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 1: just was a different monster, which also kind of bleeds 397 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:48,160 Speaker 1: to the USA basketball team. Right. Um, and I don't 398 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 1: know how much you watched this. It was Friday. It's 399 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 1: a bit dated now, but basically, Kevin Durant was incredible, 400 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 1: and Jayson Tatum was was also awesome. Um, Drew Holiday 401 00:20:57,359 --> 00:21:00,679 Speaker 1: was I thought maybe their second best player, and Damian 402 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:04,120 Speaker 1: Lillard was just thinking about Philadelphias to New York. I mean, 403 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:05,959 Speaker 1: he's not built for that. And you know what I'm 404 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna I rip Popovitch a cup for a while. 405 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:11,640 Speaker 1: I'm gonna defend him for a second. I don't think 406 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 1: Trey Young would have been a factor at the Olympics. 407 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:18,200 Speaker 1: The way it's officiated, Dude, they play so physical, they 408 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:21,920 Speaker 1: ride you hard. They don't call foul ton of fouls. 409 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 1: I mean, I know there were fouls called, but like 410 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:25,960 Speaker 1: you could have called a foul. Like every single time 411 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 1: somebody brought the ball at the court, they allowed tons 412 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 1: of contact. Damian Lillard even said, it's easier to score 413 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 1: in the NBA than it is the Olympics. They're not 414 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:35,359 Speaker 1: just giving up the whistle every time someone drives to 415 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 1: the hoop. I don't know. Did you like that, Robert No? 416 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:41,199 Speaker 1: I actually wish the NBA was officiated more like FIBA 417 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:44,440 Speaker 1: than it is currently. Really not all the way, because 418 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:45,879 Speaker 1: I think some of the things I'm not a big 419 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 1: fan of, Like I'm not a big fan of the 420 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 1: the zone where you just camp out guy in the paint, 421 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 1: But what about the knocking balls off the right? Like 422 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 1: that one? I like the if you'd make a foul 423 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 1: that is unnecessary, they call it like a some other 424 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:00,919 Speaker 1: like an unnecessary, unnecessary, a roughness kind of thing. They 425 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 1: give you a technical. I like that one. So if 426 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:05,680 Speaker 1: you see those Trey Young James Harden lean into a 427 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:07,359 Speaker 1: guy to try to draw foul, they'll call it on 428 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 1: the offense and give you a technical foul. I love that. Wow, 429 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:14,440 Speaker 1: I've gotta brought one. Glad you brought this up, because 430 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 1: I think Team USA is a good example of this 431 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 1: whole best version of your self discussion. I mean, Zach Levine, 432 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:24,400 Speaker 1: what was the six seventh guy on that team? I mean, um, 433 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 1: by the way, he had you know, my favorite moment 434 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:29,399 Speaker 1: of the Olympics. The final buzzer sounds us A wins 435 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 1: gold and Zach Levine just casually but he jumps up 436 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:36,399 Speaker 1: to dunk, pulls the ball between his legs and I 437 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 1: was like watching it. I'm like, oh my gosh, that 438 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,439 Speaker 1: was like my biggest moments for the Olympics. I was 439 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:44,439 Speaker 1: just like, dude, that is just so casual from Zach Levine. 440 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:47,159 Speaker 1: Did nobody noticed it? Yeah, no, there was like no 441 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:49,439 Speaker 1: big deal. The announcers didn't reference it. It It was just 442 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:52,719 Speaker 1: like business as usual. Zach Levine just greatest dunker in 443 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:54,440 Speaker 1: the league. I'm telling you, guys, he's a top five 444 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 1: dunker of all time. I swear to you, I will 445 00:22:57,000 --> 00:23:00,920 Speaker 1: put up Zach Levine's history of dunks with just about anybody. 446 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 1: I mean, he's probably a notch below Jordan and Vince Carter, 447 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:08,400 Speaker 1: but he's close. I'm telling you, Zach and dunks, he's 448 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:12,399 Speaker 1: more creative. I mean, he's he's just Jordan had his 449 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 1: story again, but that's because at the time nobody was 450 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:17,880 Speaker 1: doing that and now everybody like that, right, But even 451 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 1: like Jordan's baseline on Patrick Ewing is iconic dunk. Zach 452 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 1: Levine doesn't have that yet. He's got a basic Yeah. 453 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 1: I just love Zack. I'm just such a fan of 454 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:31,439 Speaker 1: the guy. Uh. He seems talented, very humble, Like he 455 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:33,159 Speaker 1: made the All Star Game and it was like videos 456 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:35,959 Speaker 1: of his family like talking to him about it and 457 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 1: like he was like almost crying. It was like it 458 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 1: just felt cool, you know, Like zachtly I I like him. 459 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 1: He's a good story. Um, but like I just felt 460 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 1: like Jayson Tatum could have taken over that game the 461 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:48,440 Speaker 1: same way duranted and just scored on anyone gets to 462 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 1: the room, any time, step back threes and he had 463 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:55,399 Speaker 1: to couch his game a little bit. Um, I don't know. 464 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 1: Is there a player that jumped out to you on 465 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 1: the gold medal team that that kind of pull back 466 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:04,159 Speaker 1: a little bit, because yes, Uh. After the gold medal game, 467 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 1: I put out a tweet that I thought it was 468 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:09,679 Speaker 1: fitting that the three players that I thought had the 469 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:13,160 Speaker 1: most impact on winning throughout the tournament outside of Durant 470 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:18,880 Speaker 1: where Draymond Drew and Devin Booker. And the reason being 471 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 1: is all three of those guys did everything that I 472 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:28,440 Speaker 1: had hoped that more players would do when the tournament started, 473 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,639 Speaker 1: because I thought their issue in the exhibition play was 474 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 1: that they were also used to playing this NBA high 475 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 1: pick and roll isolation basketball. So as soon as they 476 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 1: saw guys setting back picks, sooner they saw guys you know, 477 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:45,199 Speaker 1: moving without the ball, they had no idea what to do. 478 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 1: So the only way to come back that kind of 479 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:50,640 Speaker 1: situation is you have to have guys on your team 480 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:52,880 Speaker 1: that are willing to do the dirty work to set 481 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,679 Speaker 1: a screen, to move without the ball, to to float 482 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 1: to the open space and get the past, not to shoot, 483 00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:01,400 Speaker 1: but to make another pass. And of course Draymond Green 484 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:03,120 Speaker 1: did it because that's what he does for Golden States, 485 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 1: So that wasn't really shocking Drew Holiday. We saw him 486 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 1: do that throughout the postseason for Janice and Middleton at 487 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 1: various times, so I wasn't too surprised by that one. 488 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 1: But Devin Booker went from being option numbers one and 489 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 1: two for Phoenix throughout the playoffs two the guys you know, 490 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 1: getting the dirty block out for a rebound playing defense, 491 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:23,639 Speaker 1: and I was so impressed by what he did because 492 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 1: it shows such a maturity from his game that we 493 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 1: didn't see before this past season. Yeah, Booker. Wow, I'm 494 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:33,200 Speaker 1: looking at the box. Cort now, holy cow, are you 495 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 1: ready for this twenty two minutes? Oh? For for shooting 496 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 1: you would? And I mean, first of all, Devin Booker 497 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:44,160 Speaker 1: was wearing I think fifteen and he was wearing a headband. 498 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 1: And I kept looking and I'm like, that's just not 499 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:49,680 Speaker 1: Devin Booker. It just doesn't because you used to one. 500 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 1: And the hair up, you know, I guess he got 501 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 1: a haircut or whatever. It looks different. But yeah, he 502 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,400 Speaker 1: he was like basically a defensive guy, and like all 503 00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:00,159 Speaker 1: the shots went to Katie Drew Holiday and take um 504 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 1: Tatum was Oh gosh, I love I said this on 505 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,160 Speaker 1: on social media. As a guy born in New York, 506 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 1: I'm conditioned to dislike all Boston teams and athletes. I 507 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,680 Speaker 1: just say, am and Jason Tatum is like my favorite 508 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 1: Boston athlete ever. Um, I just I'm a huge fan. 509 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 1: I just love. No. I didn't not I was magic 510 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 1: all the way. Like I respected Bird obviously amazing, but 511 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 1: I didn't like like him or root for him like 512 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:30,640 Speaker 1: I root for Jayson Tatum. That guy's game is just unbelievable. Um. Anyways, 513 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 1: congrats the team USA, Fox Sports Radio has the best 514 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:36,639 Speaker 1: sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our 515 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:40,159 Speaker 1: shows at Fox Sports Radio dot com and within the 516 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:43,359 Speaker 1: I Heart Radio app search f s R to listen live. 517 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 1: I want to wrap up the pod with this Josh 518 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:52,359 Speaker 1: Allen contract. Um, this is insane. Okay, just two things 519 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 1: jump out on Josh Allen. I just want to remind 520 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 1: people he he's played in the league three years. Okay. 521 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 1: His completion percentage, if you put it on a graph, 522 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 1: it looks like the stock market sixty. His touchdowns also 523 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:23,399 Speaker 1: ten twenty thirty seven. His yards per attempt skyrocketing. I mean, basically, 524 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 1: in a year, Josh Allen turned into a top six 525 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:31,360 Speaker 1: quarterback in the league, top five, and the timing could 526 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 1: not have been better. Josh Allen just got a monster contract. 527 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 1: I almost could not believe this. I had to search 528 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 1: to read another story just to make sure it was true. 529 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:43,440 Speaker 1: So Patrick Mahomes got his monster deal. He got ten 530 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,920 Speaker 1: mills signing bonus, Josh Allen signing bonus sixteen and a 531 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:53,960 Speaker 1: half million. Patrick Mahomes fully guaranteed on his big Gass 532 00:27:53,960 --> 00:28:00,359 Speaker 1: deal sixty three mill, Josh Allen one million. By the 533 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,119 Speaker 1: time Mahomes got his deal, he had won a Super Bowl. 534 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 1: He had won an m v P and won a 535 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 1: Super Bowl m v P. Josh Allen has none of 536 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 1: those things. I'm not concerned. But in Josh Allen's contract, folks, 537 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 1: he makes more money than Mahomes. I think in the 538 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 1: first three years, by eight, by year eight they're virtually equal. 539 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 1: But of course Mahomes has a longer deal. Listen, I'm 540 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 1: not one to just take a dump on Josh Allen. 541 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 1: He was amazing last year. Prove me Hella wrong. Okay, 542 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 1: I kind of need to see him do it again. 543 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,159 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm stunned the Bills gave him that. But 544 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 1: finding a franchise quarterback is extremely difficult. And when you 545 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 1: got one, it's like when you got a good barber, 546 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 1: You're like, oh man, I got my barber. I'm I'm 547 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:47,960 Speaker 1: not leaving that guy. I'm always going to him. I'm 548 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 1: making sure I get my appointments in. Like, you don't 549 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 1: want to screw that up. You find somebody good to 550 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 1: um clean your house, work on your yard, you you 551 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 1: lock that person in babysitters speaking dad life language. Oh 552 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 1: my gosh, wait till Rob g is hunting for babysitters 553 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 1: and he's just like, this is brutal. They all want 554 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 1: twenty bucks out you find what you don't share their 555 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:14,320 Speaker 1: info with anybody. We actually we had had a babysitter, 556 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 1: but she had worked like kind of full time for 557 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 1: these people and she recently babysat for us and had 558 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 1: you know, the family doesn't need her anymore. And she's like, yeah, 559 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 1: I'm open, I'm looking for stuff. And my wife's like, oh, 560 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 1: we have some people, and I like nudged my wife. 561 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 1: I was like, just settle down. And then later I 562 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 1: was like, yo, what what are you doing? If we 563 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 1: give her to other families? You know there's gonna be 564 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 1: a we need her and we can't get her because 565 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 1: she's with this other family. So like, just be careful. 566 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 1: And I'm not being rude. Um, we want to help 567 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 1: this girl out. And ultimately my wife passed on the info. 568 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 1: But like a handshake deal was made. I'm not even kidding. 569 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 1: It was like a deal. Um like we get first 570 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 1: look on like Saturday nights or whatever. Um, not that 571 00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:59,720 Speaker 1: we have some busy shows you life during football season? 572 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 1: You got what? No, I do nothing, but I'm just 573 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 1: gonna put this out there. Rob Josh Allen opens this 574 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 1: season against three top ten defenses from last year Pittsburgh, Miami, Washington. Okay, 575 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,200 Speaker 1: then they play Houston, they'll win that by forty. Then 576 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 1: they play the Chiefs, and there is a legitimate chance 577 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 1: that Josh Allen opens one and four or two and three. 578 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 1: They went thirteen and three last year. Now listen, the 579 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:36,680 Speaker 1: schedule will gets super soft after that. I'm not a 580 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 1: believer in Tennessee, although you know, going to Tennessee could 581 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 1: be in trouble. Um they have, uh, the New York 582 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 1: Jets psyche, that's a joke. They have to play New England. Um, 583 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:53,480 Speaker 1: they have to go to Tampa in December. Um, they're 584 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 1: gonna be fine. They're gonna be a playoff team. I'm 585 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 1: just saying early, if Josh Allen struggles, and remember they 586 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:01,959 Speaker 1: kept Brian Dable, the offensive coordinator, who was incredible. That 587 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 1: was a massive win. I wonder if we're gonna hear something. 588 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:08,480 Speaker 1: Wait a minute, ag if Josh Allen how much money? 589 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 1: Because this schedule early is tough. If you're looking to 590 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 1: fade the Bills at all, they will struggle to move 591 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,320 Speaker 1: the football against Pittsburgh, Miami, and Washington. I'm not saying 592 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 1: they're gonna lose those games. But also just check the 593 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 1: Buffalo defensive. If the front four is not incredible, Uh, 594 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 1: the linebackers are good, secondary is very good. Um, we'll 595 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 1: see what happens early for the for the Buffalo Whills. 596 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,520 Speaker 1: Rob Any Deep thoughts on Josh Allen getting paid in 597 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:39,440 Speaker 1: the Escalade. Yeah, but they're not really tied to Josh 598 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:42,360 Speaker 1: Allen as much. I'm glad that you initially brought up 599 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:45,600 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes because I feel like that deal that Patrick 600 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 1: Mahomes brought up that you said that he talked about 601 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:50,760 Speaker 1: getting paid forever and you know, getting paid in the escalad, 602 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 1: I thought that he did a disservice the guys like 603 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:56,960 Speaker 1: Josh Allen coming up forward behind him. His decision to 604 00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:02,960 Speaker 1: lock himself up for twelve years, which I don't understand 605 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,160 Speaker 1: why you would do that in the NFL, considering the 606 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 1: cap is always going up and you can always renegotiate 607 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:11,280 Speaker 1: and they can always cut you. His decision to not 608 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:16,480 Speaker 1: ask for a fully guaranteed contract is something that I 609 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 1: was at the time very disappointed in. And now that 610 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 1: we know that Josh Allen guaranteed contract, I think it's 611 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 1: a hundred and fifty million and total guarantees. If Pat 612 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 1: Mahomes does what he's supposed to do a couple of 613 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:31,920 Speaker 1: years back, maybe Josh Allen gets a hundred and seventy 614 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:37,520 Speaker 1: million guaranteed. Maybe he gets four years, one sixty fully guaranteed. 615 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 1: That that's my that's my overwhelming thought on this whole situation. UM, 616 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:47,240 Speaker 1: I guess my only counter to that. So Pat Mahomes 617 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,200 Speaker 1: his dad, everybody knows his dad was a famous baseball player. 618 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:56,000 Speaker 1: UH spent eleven years in based in Major League Baseball, 619 00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,600 Speaker 1: played for Minnesota for four years. I was off the 620 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:06,520 Speaker 1: boss in York, Matt's, Texas, Chicago, Pittsburgh. I don't know 621 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,360 Speaker 1: how much of that Pat Mahomes was moving around with 622 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:11,200 Speaker 1: the family or they just set up a home base 623 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 1: and they stayed wherever. That can be tough on a 624 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 1: kid bouncing around. You know. Yeah, I'm sure you hear 625 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 1: about the military brat or the army brat or whatever 626 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:24,960 Speaker 1: it is. Um, But like, I just wonder how much 627 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:28,720 Speaker 1: security Pat Mahomes wanted, having seen his dad bounced around 628 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:32,080 Speaker 1: baseball and said, you know what, I'm a family guy. 629 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 1: I'm not looking to bounce around teams. I like this area. 630 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,800 Speaker 1: I think he bought into the Kansas City MLS soccer team. 631 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 1: I'm I don't have that in front of me, but 632 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:45,080 Speaker 1: I'm almost certain. And he's got the new girlfriend slash wife. 633 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:48,280 Speaker 1: I think they have a kid together, and like he's 634 00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:50,760 Speaker 1: putting down roots. He wants to set up shop. He 635 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:55,120 Speaker 1: loves Kansas City and frankly, this ain't the NBA, you know. Uh, 636 00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:58,360 Speaker 1: He's got a great coach in Andy Reid. And I 637 00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:01,760 Speaker 1: actually think that Tom Brady stuff helped him see the light. 638 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:05,520 Speaker 1: And Pat Mahomes is like, Yo, Brady took less. The 639 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:10,200 Speaker 1: Patriots kept a dynasty for two decades if I take less. 640 00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:14,759 Speaker 1: And remember Pat mahomes family. His dad had baseball money. Um, 641 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:16,840 Speaker 1: you know, I don't know how much money he actually 642 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,680 Speaker 1: made playing baseball, but I'm sure they were not hard 643 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:24,320 Speaker 1: up for money. Obviously in the nineties, you know, salaries 644 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:29,400 Speaker 1: were a little different, especially in baseball. But like, if 645 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:33,479 Speaker 1: you're the quarterback, as salaries are escalating and you take 646 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,239 Speaker 1: less so the team could get better, that's a hell 647 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,440 Speaker 1: of a good way to win. If you want to 648 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:41,440 Speaker 1: take all the money, that's fine too, but it's tougher 649 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,759 Speaker 1: to complain when you're getting the Lions share and oh, 650 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:48,399 Speaker 1: we can't pay the left tackle and we can't find 651 00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:51,080 Speaker 1: the defensive end in the cornerback and like, I mean, 652 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:52,879 Speaker 1: it's it's kind of an honorable thing to do. Like 653 00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:55,760 Speaker 1: and again I'm not looking in his pockets, but Rob, 654 00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:01,200 Speaker 1: what's the difference if you're Patrick Mahomes between sixty million 655 00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:05,440 Speaker 1: guaranteed and like, either way, as long as you're not 656 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:11,480 Speaker 1: burning through money, you know, and buying fifteen cars and nonsense, 657 00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:14,359 Speaker 1: like you're gonna be fine. Your family is gonna be fine. 658 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:16,319 Speaker 1: Your family, your kids, kids are gonna be fine. Like 659 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:18,680 Speaker 1: you've got generational wealth at sixty or eighty five. And 660 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:23,520 Speaker 1: if you value winning like patrickical Holmes does. Clearly, Um, 661 00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:30,960 Speaker 1: I think he did a good thing, a smart thing. Um, 662 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:34,319 Speaker 1: I would disagree on a couple of friends. Number one. 663 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,200 Speaker 1: I mean, sure, of course everyone wants to get money. 664 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:40,879 Speaker 1: But number one, the idea that Tom Brady took less 665 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,040 Speaker 1: so they coul build the dynasty around him is not true. 666 00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:44,960 Speaker 1: I know that that's the narrative that gets pushed out. 667 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,360 Speaker 1: But if you do dig a little deeper, which the 668 00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:51,399 Speaker 1: Boston Globe did, Um, seven of the ten years that 669 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:53,239 Speaker 1: Tom Brady, the last ten years that he was with 670 00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:56,400 Speaker 1: the Patriots, they spent below the league average in salary 671 00:35:56,440 --> 00:36:00,320 Speaker 1: cap so they were they were pocketing the money, is 672 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,640 Speaker 1: what they were doing, pocketing the money. Now here's my question. 673 00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:05,399 Speaker 1: Were they getting to the super Bowl during that time? 674 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:09,920 Speaker 1: So that I think that's probably why Brady wasn't complaining. 675 00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:11,799 Speaker 1: But his wife also was worth like five of them 676 00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:15,160 Speaker 1: exactly exactly that, and they always he they always had 677 00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:18,640 Speaker 1: guys around him, right, No, they always had a great defense. 678 00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:23,240 Speaker 1: Well he also I mean he made Welker and Edelman 679 00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:25,840 Speaker 1: and then one of the years that he took less, 680 00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:28,719 Speaker 1: the intention was to bring Walker back, and Walker left 681 00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:33,359 Speaker 1: that the Broncos from our money. So apparently taking less 682 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:36,520 Speaker 1: didn't really help him out that time, So that that's one. 683 00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:39,120 Speaker 1: But going back to pat Mahomes, look but wait, wait, 684 00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:41,120 Speaker 1: time out, time out, Brady does get the last laugh. 685 00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:44,800 Speaker 1: If like you're saying, they took a lot less but 686 00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,520 Speaker 1: according to the Boston Globe or they pocketed the money, 687 00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:49,799 Speaker 1: maybe that's one of the reasons. Brady was like, you 688 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:51,640 Speaker 1: know what, you guys have been pocketing my money all 689 00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:53,760 Speaker 1: these years, and look, you left me with this dogshit 690 00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:56,600 Speaker 1: team and I dragged us to the playoffs and then 691 00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:59,359 Speaker 1: we got our butts kicked. I'm at it that's fair, 692 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:01,440 Speaker 1: pot is it? I mean, I don't know if it's 693 00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:03,919 Speaker 1: If you look at the team that they had that year, 694 00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:06,719 Speaker 1: there was not a lot of good talent there, no, 695 00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:10,080 Speaker 1: not at all. Um. But going back to Pat Mahomes, 696 00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:11,600 Speaker 1: because I don't I don't want to get too far 697 00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:14,520 Speaker 1: off topic. Pat Mahomes has every right to do whatever 698 00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:15,879 Speaker 1: he wants, and like you said, he has a good 699 00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:17,600 Speaker 1: team around him. He's got Andy Reid. It's one of 700 00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:21,279 Speaker 1: the lay foundation in Kansas City that is completely respectable. 701 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:25,040 Speaker 1: There's nothing wrong with that. My only problem with it 702 00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:32,200 Speaker 1: is is the NFL Players Association is by far the 703 00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:35,160 Speaker 1: weakest in all of sports. Like it's not even close. 704 00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:41,480 Speaker 1: And in situations like Tom Brady, like Pat Mahomes, when 705 00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:45,239 Speaker 1: you have guys who legitimately have leverage to ask for 706 00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:49,839 Speaker 1: whatever they want and they did not take that opportunity 707 00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:54,080 Speaker 1: to ensure that higher percentages of the contracts were guaranteed 708 00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:57,880 Speaker 1: or fully guaranteed deals, that is what sets the precedent, 709 00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:02,040 Speaker 1: and that what leads to guys like Josh Allen signing 710 00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:09,000 Speaker 1: a contract which is only really worthy and until guys 711 00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:14,360 Speaker 1: like my Homes use their leverage. The NFL players are 712 00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:16,600 Speaker 1: always going to be stuck in this mud, and that 713 00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:20,279 Speaker 1: that's my thought on it. Yeah, but do you know 714 00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:24,839 Speaker 1: how much brushback they would take if, like, let's see 715 00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:27,080 Speaker 1: what happens with this dat contract. I mean, it sounds 716 00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:29,440 Speaker 1: like the um, the salary cap is gonna tick up 717 00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:31,680 Speaker 1: here in the next couple of years. Um, but let's 718 00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:34,319 Speaker 1: see what happens with this Dack deal. They're all they're 719 00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:36,239 Speaker 1: gonna be okay this year and I think next year, 720 00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:39,640 Speaker 1: but after that it balloons up into the forties. And 721 00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:41,560 Speaker 1: I'm just curious what kind of team they're gonna put 722 00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:44,320 Speaker 1: around because they will not be able to afford everything 723 00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:47,600 Speaker 1: they've got now in two years. Yeah, okay, Well here's 724 00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:49,840 Speaker 1: here's that. I think a better example. Kirk Cousins. He 725 00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:54,120 Speaker 1: got a fully guaranteed contract. The reason why the Minnesota 726 00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:56,600 Speaker 1: Vikings were not in the Super Bowl was not because 727 00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:59,560 Speaker 1: of the talent around him. It was because Kirk Cousins 728 00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:03,239 Speaker 1: just was as good as his contracts suggested. So you 729 00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:05,520 Speaker 1: mean to tell me that they couldn't give Pat Mahomes 730 00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:09,759 Speaker 1: four years a hundred and fifty million fully guaranteed and 731 00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:11,760 Speaker 1: they would still be able to fill out that roster 732 00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:15,000 Speaker 1: around him. Well, well hold up, pulled up. So the 733 00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:17,920 Speaker 1: kirk Cousins things weird. They didn't they lose Stefon Diggs 734 00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:19,799 Speaker 1: because they could not afford him because of the kirk 735 00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,480 Speaker 1: Cousins contract they didn't want, and the year before, but 736 00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:26,840 Speaker 1: the year before, I think I'm almost certain kirk Cousins 737 00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:29,840 Speaker 1: had them winning around in New Orleans as a big underdog, 738 00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:32,719 Speaker 1: and then they pushed San Fran before ultimately losing. San 739 00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:34,799 Speaker 1: Fran was like ten minutes away from winning the super Bowl. 740 00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:37,160 Speaker 1: So like that was the Kirk Cousins was good. By 741 00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:38,840 Speaker 1: the way, I'm off to Kirk Cousins train because his 742 00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:41,640 Speaker 1: anti fact ship. I didn't want to go there on 743 00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:43,760 Speaker 1: the pod, but oh my gosh, he's a freaking idiot. 744 00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:47,080 Speaker 1: Cheez um. And then the year after that they lose 745 00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:50,080 Speaker 1: Stefon Diggs and they lose like four starting defenders because 746 00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:53,520 Speaker 1: they can't afford anybody, and then they plumme it back. Now, 747 00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:56,040 Speaker 1: kirk Cousins was a career backup. He didn't get like 748 00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:59,000 Speaker 1: first round money like Mahomes or Alan. I think he's 749 00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:01,800 Speaker 1: a mid round pay um. And then he got tagged 750 00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:04,399 Speaker 1: twice by Washington, so he kind of needed his pay days. 751 00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:06,719 Speaker 1: So that's a little bit of a different story. But 752 00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:10,600 Speaker 1: these first round guys like Baker uh Lamar, like, if 753 00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:12,960 Speaker 1: you're a first round pick, you've already gotten a goodbye 754 00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:15,279 Speaker 1: to the apple taking less so you can have a 755 00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:18,440 Speaker 1: great team around you. I think that smart business. I 756 00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:21,560 Speaker 1: mean hurts the mid round guys, right, Russell Wilson's although 757 00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:25,479 Speaker 1: he's fine. Actually the mid round guys benefit more because 758 00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:29,200 Speaker 1: they're in the free agency sooner. Yeah, but they don't. 759 00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:31,160 Speaker 1: I mean, I think Russell Wilson was making like eight 760 00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:37,440 Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars he like, like like Lamar Jackson, I 761 00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:39,560 Speaker 1: think is going to be making a total during the 762 00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:44,279 Speaker 1: first five year of his contract, like less than twenty million. Yeah. 763 00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:46,960 Speaker 1: But if you're Russell Wilson in the first what three 764 00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:50,560 Speaker 1: years of year contract, you're making like four million, and 765 00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:52,800 Speaker 1: then you get to get that forty million dollars in 766 00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:56,239 Speaker 1: year five, assuming they don't franchise tag you like Kirk 767 00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:59,120 Speaker 1: Cousins got tagged twice, but you still get paid. But 768 00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:02,520 Speaker 1: it's the injury risk, right, Yes, and exactly the injury 769 00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:05,000 Speaker 1: risk is exactly why I want guys to get guarantee contracts, 770 00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:08,239 Speaker 1: even if they're shorter, if they're only two years, three 771 00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:11,600 Speaker 1: years versus the five years. But we all got Josh 772 00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:13,920 Speaker 1: Allen got a hundred million dollars guarantee. Now he got 773 00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:17,680 Speaker 1: a hundred and fifty a hundred signing hundred Oh I'm sorry, yes, 774 00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:19,960 Speaker 1: hundred signed. Imagine signing your name on a piece of 775 00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:22,400 Speaker 1: paper and someone immediately while why are you a hullion? 776 00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:26,640 Speaker 1: No? No No, sixteen point five million signing bonus one hundred 777 00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:30,080 Speaker 1: mill fully guaranteed according to Pro Football Talks. But either way, 778 00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:35,080 Speaker 1: a hundred million dollars Like Rob, I feel like I've 779 00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:37,080 Speaker 1: know you. I've known you for probably a five years, 780 00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:41,400 Speaker 1: four years down. If you got a deal that was 781 00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:46,919 Speaker 1: even I don't know, five million dollars guaranteed, I think 782 00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:49,040 Speaker 1: you would change a little bit. You would say you wouldn't, 783 00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:54,719 Speaker 1: but you would five milk guaranteed on signing. He got 784 00:41:54,719 --> 00:42:00,680 Speaker 1: a hundred hundred million. That is insanity. Now he has 785 00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:02,640 Speaker 1: an incentive to work because he hasn't won ship in 786 00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:06,040 Speaker 1: the NFL. Um But I'm the pressure is gonna be 787 00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:08,520 Speaker 1: on this year for Josh Allen. I don't know. I 788 00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:10,440 Speaker 1: I looked over the weekend at the bills under I'm 789 00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:13,319 Speaker 1: not I don't think it's actuable yet, but anyway, all right, 790 00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:16,759 Speaker 1: we've prattled on for over forty minutes. Now, UM, let's 791 00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:18,160 Speaker 1: wrap this bad boy up. We got a couple of 792 00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:21,080 Speaker 1: good guests lined up for this week. UM. It's fully 793 00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:23,520 Speaker 1: football season, folks. I don't know about you. I love it. 794 00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:27,000 Speaker 1: Um we'll be doing a lot of football, um pretty 795 00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:30,120 Speaker 1: much the rest of this month. And uh, if you 796 00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:32,319 Speaker 1: have any guests suggestions, Rob and I are taking him. 797 00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:34,680 Speaker 1: Uh we will. We will not be afraid to go 798 00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:37,439 Speaker 1: after players. Uh to bring on the pod. Players don't 799 00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:39,440 Speaker 1: always say good stuff, but it's worth a shot. If 800 00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:41,440 Speaker 1: you guys are regested, let us know. We'll talk to 801 00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:41,920 Speaker 1: you tomorrow.