WEBVTT - LISTEN | Bart Scott on Jets-Chiefs (10/27)

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to another edition of the Official Jets Podcast powered

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<v Speaker 1>by Amazon Web Services. Ethan Greenberg, Eric Allen here in

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<v Speaker 1>the bet MGM studio will be joined by Bart Scott

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<v Speaker 1>later in the episode for our Vics Tornox Swiss Army

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<v Speaker 1>Knife player of the Game segment as did Jets prepare

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<v Speaker 1>to face the defending Super Bowl champion Kansas City Chiefs

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<v Speaker 1>And before we talk anything Jets Chiefs with Bart Scott,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's week eight of the season, which is crazy

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<v Speaker 1>with this season has flown by. It seemed like yesterday

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<v Speaker 1>that we were here inside the bed MGM studio for

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<v Speaker 1>the first time doing training camp live show, and now

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<v Speaker 1>we're eight weeks into the NFL season, which is just amazing,

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<v Speaker 1>it really is. But you know, for the Jets right now,

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<v Speaker 1>you saw some positive steps the previous Sunday against the

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<v Speaker 1>Buffalo Bills, but that challenges It is a tall task

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<v Speaker 1>going to Kansas City anytime, much less. Wow, this is

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<v Speaker 1>the defending Super Bowl champions and you're just a team

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<v Speaker 1>just looking for his first win. And any team too,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean any time, any team going to Kansas City.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe they allow fans also in Kansas City. I

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<v Speaker 1>could be wrong. On that, but I'm almost positive they do,

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<v Speaker 1>so there's gonna be some form of crowd element there also, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and you get somewhat of a break that

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<v Speaker 1>there's not seventy people arrowhead. But this team, you can

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<v Speaker 1>make the argument that they have the most valuable player

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<v Speaker 1>in the National Football League lead that offensive, Patrick Mahomes,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's got so many weapons on the offensive side

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<v Speaker 1>of the ball, and defense plunk playing well as well.

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<v Speaker 1>So listen, any team going into Kansas City is a

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<v Speaker 1>tough challenge and the Jets are going to be up

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<v Speaker 1>against it. Let's see if they can find a way

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<v Speaker 1>to get to the fourth quarter and just give yourself

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<v Speaker 1>a chance. The Jets did that very well against the

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<v Speaker 1>Buffalo Bills. Just passed Sunday, held the Bills out of

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<v Speaker 1>the end zone multiple times, including times where you thought, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe the Bills are finally gonna get one, like when

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<v Speaker 1>Josh Allen hits Tyler Croft down the left sideline, they're

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<v Speaker 1>in the red zone. The Jets held back to back possessions,

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<v Speaker 1>gave the offense a chance. But one player on defense,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think we should highlight because I think he's

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<v Speaker 1>played well, maybe a little under the radar over the

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<v Speaker 1>first seven games quinnin Williams, and he has three sacks

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<v Speaker 1>so far on the season, and right now, I would

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<v Speaker 1>say that he's definitely shown progress from that year one

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<v Speaker 1>to year two jump that you'd like to see for

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<v Speaker 1>all rookies. Well, first off, he's got to clean up

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<v Speaker 1>the flags. We know that, and he would probably be

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<v Speaker 1>the first one to tell you that. But from an

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<v Speaker 1>interior position, he's been very solid against the run. And

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<v Speaker 1>you mentioned the sect totals. This is a guy continues

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<v Speaker 1>to press the pocket up the middle and quarterbacks don't

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<v Speaker 1>like that. And we often forget that quinnin Williams is

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<v Speaker 1>just in his second season here. So let's say he

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<v Speaker 1>gets another sack, maybe he gets Mahomes down this weekend,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're hoping that happens if you're a Jets fan.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you're getting an interior rusher who has eight sacks,

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<v Speaker 1>who's very good against the run, who's often drawing double teams,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what you were looking for when you drafted Quinn

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<v Speaker 1>and Williams the previous April. So I think signs arrows

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<v Speaker 1>are pointing up with this guy. I like his motor,

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<v Speaker 1>he's got unique athletic ability. We always talk about how

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<v Speaker 1>low to the ground he is built, and he's explosive

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<v Speaker 1>off the ball, and I would say he's got a

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<v Speaker 1>really quick first step. Also that you've seen him burst

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<v Speaker 1>through the line a couple of times. He had two

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<v Speaker 1>sacks against the Niners in Week two. He had one

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<v Speaker 1>yesterday against the Bills. And I think that Quinn and

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<v Speaker 1>Williams is a player. You mentioned the sack total. If

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<v Speaker 1>he were to get eight sacks, let's say, right, just

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<v Speaker 1>to put things into personally, it's possible. Let's just say

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<v Speaker 1>that right now, he's got three sacks through seven games,

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<v Speaker 1>that is quite possible that he can end the year

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<v Speaker 1>finishing with that kind of sector. Right, So with that

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<v Speaker 1>in mind, if he were to finish with eight sacks,

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<v Speaker 1>eight sacks is but Jordan Jenkins led the Jets with

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<v Speaker 1>last season, so to get that kind of production from

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<v Speaker 1>up the middle is very impressive. And there's another very

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<v Speaker 1>impressive defensive tackle the Jets will see this weekend, Chris Jones,

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<v Speaker 1>who has four and a half sacks, which is crazy

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<v Speaker 1>to think from an interior position, but he's a great player.

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<v Speaker 1>Quinnin Williams, you know one and a half sacks back

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<v Speaker 1>through seven games, not too shabby. No, Jones is a

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<v Speaker 1>great player, so the Jets offensive line is gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>to uh take care of him. I don't know how

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<v Speaker 1>many times he can go single against him. You're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have to double him a lot. But what Williams is

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be able to do, It's gonna take the pressure

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<v Speaker 1>off the outside guys because if you have somebody you

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<v Speaker 1>have to account for in the middle, then those guys

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<v Speaker 1>on the outside they just gotta win their one on

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<v Speaker 1>one matchups. And the other guy who's been pretty good

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<v Speaker 1>I think for the Jets in another name out of

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<v Speaker 1>the radars, John Franklin Myers. He came up with the

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<v Speaker 1>fumble recovery when Terrell Basham got the corner on I

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<v Speaker 1>believe right tackle Darryl Williams and the Buffalo Bills and

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<v Speaker 1>he knocked the ball out of Josh Allen's hands, and

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<v Speaker 1>Franklin Myers was right there. He comes up with the

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<v Speaker 1>fumble recovery. But those are two guys who I think

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<v Speaker 1>have been bringing bringing it on the interior. The question

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<v Speaker 1>for the Jets over the years has always been who's

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<v Speaker 1>the guy threatening you on the outside, So it's It's

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<v Speaker 1>good to see bash getting them in the backfield, and

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<v Speaker 1>he's made some plays the last couple of weeks. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>Tarrell Basham two sacks in as many weeks. He had

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<v Speaker 1>one against the Bills forced fumble and one against the Dolphins,

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<v Speaker 1>his first of the two thousand twenty season. And when

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<v Speaker 1>you look at this Jets roster, we talked about guys

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<v Speaker 1>throughout the season like Joe Flaccol and Frank Gore, who

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<v Speaker 1>are obviously and the latter halves or third or they're

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<v Speaker 1>close to the end of their career right respectively. So

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<v Speaker 1>you would assume I'm not gonna put that out there.

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<v Speaker 1>I realized that, as I said, Gore is the kind

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<v Speaker 1>of guy you wouldn't be surprised if he's playing fifty.

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<v Speaker 1>But with knowing those two guys are old for NFL years, right,

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<v Speaker 1>We've talked about them a lot, But the Jets have

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of young players throughout the roster that I

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<v Speaker 1>think of been at least somewhat productive for the team

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<v Speaker 1>when their numbers called. I mean, the first guy that

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<v Speaker 1>comes to mind when I said that is like Jeff

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<v Speaker 1>Smith in Week four, comes off of I R. He

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<v Speaker 1>immediately has a good game, and then against the Bills,

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<v Speaker 1>Denzel Mims comes off of I R Saturday and he

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<v Speaker 1>has forty yards in the first half. Granted, you'd like

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<v Speaker 1>to see more from Denzel Mims in the second half

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<v Speaker 1>in the offense as a total, I mean totally four

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<v Speaker 1>yards in the second half. You've got to be better

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<v Speaker 1>than that. But I think that you liked what you

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<v Speaker 1>saw out of MIM's at least in his first NFL action.

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<v Speaker 1>Can I go back to the defensive side of the

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<v Speaker 1>ball real quick? I gotta get props to Bryce Off,

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<v Speaker 1>undrafted free agent a Memphis who had his first career

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<v Speaker 1>sack against the Miami Dolphins. And then Sunday, the Bills

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<v Speaker 1>were running, Isaiah Mackenzie crossed the line of scrimmage and

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<v Speaker 1>the A four mentioned Tyler Croft was coming over to

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<v Speaker 1>block half in half read. Dad out snuffed it from

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<v Speaker 1>the get and got him down. Mackenzie down in the backfield.

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<v Speaker 1>That was a veteran type play. So he's a guy

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<v Speaker 1>who we have to continue to watch because SAC against

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<v Speaker 1>Miami a big play in the defense an offensive backfield,

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<v Speaker 1>So what is his next steps? But on offensive side

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<v Speaker 1>of the ball, I just want to say one thing

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<v Speaker 1>about Huff is you would assume he'd get more playing time,

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<v Speaker 1>right with Kyle Phillips now out for the season with

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<v Speaker 1>the ankle injury. And that's another young player that was

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<v Speaker 1>an undrafted free agent in two thousand nineteen. He led

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<v Speaker 1>the team in tackles for loss and then he started

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<v Speaker 1>pretty well and then he gets hurt and then yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and then Bryce Huff to your point, you would assume

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<v Speaker 1>he might be in the mixture. See more snapped. And

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<v Speaker 1>another guy I think we're gonna talk about this on

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<v Speaker 1>practice today this week is that Jabari z Aninga. And

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<v Speaker 1>now I remember that two thousand twenty draft class. So

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<v Speaker 1>Steve McLennan and Tampa, now Quinn and Williams. We're seeing

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<v Speaker 1>um him developed in front of our eyes. He always

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<v Speaker 1>had the natural raw athletic ability. I think that he

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<v Speaker 1>was slowed by injury last year. But quinnin is a

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<v Speaker 1>guy who he was flashing. John Franklin Myers is a

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<v Speaker 1>guy you picked up off of waivers from the Rams.

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<v Speaker 1>He's showing his talent. Bryce hoff starting to come on

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<v Speaker 1>um and then Uh, Jabari z Aninga is a guy

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<v Speaker 1>the Jets really liked. They drafted the four round out

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<v Speaker 1>of Florida and explosive player who is not an edge

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<v Speaker 1>but he's a defensive alignment, So how is he going

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<v Speaker 1>to work into the rotation as well? And then the

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<v Speaker 1>other defensive player to think about is the other Bryce

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<v Speaker 1>is Bryce Hall, because he's in that designated to practice

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<v Speaker 1>window now off of the non football injury list. And

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<v Speaker 1>if he's let's say he's on the same Bless Austin path,

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<v Speaker 1>which is you get activated after week ten, maybe you

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<v Speaker 1>get your feet wet, depending on the situation and the

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<v Speaker 1>numbers at corner. I think that's another guy that when

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<v Speaker 1>the Jets drafted Bryce Hall, a lot of fans and

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of pundit's we're thinking, well, that could be

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<v Speaker 1>a guy down the road because he dealt with that

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<v Speaker 1>pretty brutal ankle leg injury at Virginia. But that's this

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<v Speaker 1>was a guy that led the nation in past defenses

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<v Speaker 1>the year before he got hurt. He can find a

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<v Speaker 1>football and the Jets knew it was going to be

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<v Speaker 1>a slow process with him when they drafted him. But

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<v Speaker 1>like you said, hopefully he can get on the field

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<v Speaker 1>here quickly because I'm sure if he can get up

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<v Speaker 1>to speed on the practice field, and I wonder if

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<v Speaker 1>he has a similar path through Denzel Mims, meaning scout

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<v Speaker 1>team first and then get some team reps and let's

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<v Speaker 1>see what you have. But his ball skills, he is

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<v Speaker 1>at natural in terms of finding the football. And you

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned what a productive season he added in Virginia's last

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<v Speaker 1>healthy year in college. So he is a guy who

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<v Speaker 1>you'd like to see out there on field in the

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<v Speaker 1>back half of the season. But sorry to get us

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<v Speaker 1>off track. That's how MIM's you know, range of pores.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's like a snowball that turns into the avalanche.

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<v Speaker 1>How about Mims. Uh, he saw a lot of trade

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<v Speaker 1>Avious White. Trade Avious White is a top five corner

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<v Speaker 1>in the league, maybe top three corner in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 1>He had those four receptions, a couple of crossing routes.

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<v Speaker 1>I really thought that one of his most impressive plays

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<v Speaker 1>was taking care of treyde Davis White in the end

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<v Speaker 1>zone on la Michael p Ryans first touchdown in the

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<v Speaker 1>National Football League. Everybody talks about MIM's being explosive in

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<v Speaker 1>and out of his routes, big guy, good catch radius. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>So he performed well in Game one. Yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 1>what stood out to me was what Mim said after

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<v Speaker 1>the game. I interviewed him after the game from MetLife

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<v Speaker 1>Stadium as I was up in my sweet and he

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<v Speaker 1>was outside and to go home. But Denzel Mims said,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I know I can do a lot more

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<v Speaker 1>and I can do a lot better in the future.

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<v Speaker 1>So I said, well, what do you mean by that?

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<v Speaker 1>And he says, well, my blocking. First off, he said

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<v Speaker 1>that blocking gets him going like mentally and in the

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<v Speaker 1>involved in the game. And hey, I know that all

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<v Speaker 1>NFL fans want to see the four three eight guy

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<v Speaker 1>just like catch and run and just take one seventy

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<v Speaker 1>yards and show off the burners. But Denzel Mims takes

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<v Speaker 1>pride in his blocking. And I think that the La

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<v Speaker 1>Michael p Ryan touchdown there's a great example of that.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that speaks to who Denzel Mims is

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<v Speaker 1>as a guy. I think he's a little tougher than

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<v Speaker 1>maybe you would think because receivers kind of get that

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<v Speaker 1>diva label, maybe unjustly. Well, yeah, you go back to Baylor.

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<v Speaker 1>You know this. You did a lot of work on

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<v Speaker 1>the previous draft here said. They used to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>the way he approached practice every day and he loves

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<v Speaker 1>being part of the run game. So but Anthony backset

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<v Speaker 1>it after your interview by the way, on Jets over time, Hey, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>that's great that the receiver wants to be a blocker,

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<v Speaker 1>but we need to catching touchdown passes, the catching basses

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<v Speaker 1>down the field. And den deel Mims, to be fair,

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<v Speaker 1>at college was the only n c A a receiver

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<v Speaker 1>with at least eight touchdown castes catches and at least

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<v Speaker 1>three seasons and three and three consecutive seasons. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he got it on inside the red zone. And he

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<v Speaker 1>was asked to run a lot of vertical routes at

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<v Speaker 1>Baylor UM, but the Jets said early on he picked

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<v Speaker 1>up the route tree and he can do a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of different things. So, uh, he's the guy who you

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't anticipate is going to continue to get better, and

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<v Speaker 1>you love who he's being coached up by. You're not

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<v Speaker 1>only shown Jefferson, but you got hines Ward in there

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<v Speaker 1>as well, of course, and hines Ward was very much

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<v Speaker 1>known for his blocking, so I'm sure he'll pick up

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<v Speaker 1>a thing or two learning from him. In terms of

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of the receiving corps, you mentioned jeff Smith,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean he gotta hope that Prescott Powerman is healthy

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<v Speaker 1>because we'll see what the deal is with Jamison Crowder.

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<v Speaker 1>But you're hoping for this upcoming week and the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of the season. You're receiving Corps Powerman, Mims and Crowder.

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<v Speaker 1>And yesterday the Jets had two out of the three.

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<v Speaker 1>Brasen Burrios was starting in place of Crowder. How about

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<v Speaker 1>the third and twenty where is Sam Donald through one

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<v Speaker 1>of one of the most impressive passes of his three

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<v Speaker 1>year career, gets burials in a crazy window for twenty

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<v Speaker 1>two yards. And that was a great example what Sam

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<v Speaker 1>can do from the pocket because I know a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of times we talked about his improvisation skills and what

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<v Speaker 1>he can do when a play breaks down, But here

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<v Speaker 1>he is on the money and a tough situation. Third

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<v Speaker 1>and twenty he finds burials. But you're right Greenis you're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about the Jets and Adam Gates referred to him

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<v Speaker 1>as three dudes. The three dudes. The three dudes has

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<v Speaker 1>yet to play together. And we're at the NFL midway point,

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<v Speaker 1>So Jameson Crowder not in the lineup when Denzel Mims

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<v Speaker 1>back and then Brashot Perriman. He took that big pop

0:14:12.120 --> 0:14:15.760
<v Speaker 1>the sideline. I think that was Jordan Poyer, right player

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<v Speaker 1>or high Yeah, I think it was Micah Hyde. It

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<v Speaker 1>was hide okay, so I don't remember who the safety was.

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<v Speaker 1>It was one of those bank bang plays where damn,

0:14:26.200 --> 0:14:28.040
<v Speaker 1>he really took a shot on the sideline. So the

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<v Speaker 1>concussion protocol. So we have to hope for the best

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<v Speaker 1>with him. Again, we talked about the speed at the

0:14:32.760 --> 0:14:37.400
<v Speaker 1>receiver position, but uh, work in progress because Mims gets

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<v Speaker 1>out there for the first time now, the Perriman is

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<v Speaker 1>dealing with an injury. And every time Crowder has been

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<v Speaker 1>on the field, he's been productive. Burials has done some

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<v Speaker 1>nice things in filling in for him. But the Jets,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought, offensively great plan early and they moved to football.

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<v Speaker 1>They were in good rhythm and what I liked is

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<v Speaker 1>offensive line was blowing the Bills defenders off the ball early. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think the Jets. It's really a tale of two

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<v Speaker 1>halves for the Jets offense. I mean, on six of

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<v Speaker 1>the team's total yards came in the first half, and

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<v Speaker 1>you saw the offense start to put things together, and

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<v Speaker 1>you hope that the offense can take whatever happened in

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<v Speaker 1>that first half and they could apply it to four

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<v Speaker 1>quarters worth of football throughout the course of the season.

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<v Speaker 1>And on a positive note, Michael p Ryan's stats aren't

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<v Speaker 1>I popping, but he did get his first career touchdown. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And we talked about the run and it's like a

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<v Speaker 1>stretch and he showed his explosion there because I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if a lot of the guys would have been

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<v Speaker 1>able to get to the edge, and the Jets have

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<v Speaker 1>talked about him being a home run hitter. No, that

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<v Speaker 1>was not a long game per se, but he got

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<v Speaker 1>to the corner where nobody could get to him, No

0:15:52.480 --> 0:15:54.360
<v Speaker 1>Bills defender could get to him. So he showed his

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<v Speaker 1>speed there. And he did have a twenty yard run

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<v Speaker 1>in the first half, blocked up well and he hit it.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's the explosion he can bring to the table.

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<v Speaker 1>Or that's this big playability because I know we're always

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<v Speaker 1>thinking in terms of, hey, chunk plays come in the

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<v Speaker 1>passing game, Well you can get chunk plays in the

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<v Speaker 1>run game as well. And the Michael p Right, I

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<v Speaker 1>think did a really nice job of getting skinny and

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<v Speaker 1>extending the ball over the pylon. From my vantage point,

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<v Speaker 1>I was about the thirty or forty yard line, and

0:16:29.400 --> 0:16:32.040
<v Speaker 1>the Jets were going to the opposite direction, like to

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<v Speaker 1>my left, and he almost like, is he gonna get it?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, and then it almost looked like he

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<v Speaker 1>ran out of bounds. And then he did a very

0:16:40.320 --> 0:16:43.520
<v Speaker 1>nice job of he's jumping and extending. He certainly did.

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<v Speaker 1>And that was like a veteran move right there, getting

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<v Speaker 1>it over the pieline and getting into the end zone,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Jets had It's had nothing lead. And this

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<v Speaker 1>was the first time in a long time since Week

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<v Speaker 1>four against the Broncos, where the Green and White gave

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<v Speaker 1>themselves a chance to win in the fourth quarter and

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<v Speaker 1>as small steps right now. And I know fans are

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<v Speaker 1>unhappy and everybody inside the building is unhappy with the

0:17:08.880 --> 0:17:11.520
<v Speaker 1>Jets record, There's no doubt about that. But you do

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<v Speaker 1>have to take things in play by play, watch them

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<v Speaker 1>back correct the mistakes, and the Jets gave themselves a

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<v Speaker 1>chance to win. It would be really something if they

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<v Speaker 1>give themselves a chance to win against the Chiefs, because

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<v Speaker 1>they just faced a Buffalo team that was scuffling the

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<v Speaker 1>last couple of weeks. And I still think they're feeling

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<v Speaker 1>their own way Defensively, you saw the Bills take that

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<v Speaker 1>game over in the second half with a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>their pressure packages, and I thought Sam Donald was right,

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<v Speaker 1>they made adjustments. Now what are we gonna do as

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<v Speaker 1>far as making adjustments as well to counter those adjustments.

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<v Speaker 1>So I like defensively that third down were great. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>the Bills were three of eleven. That was comes on

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<v Speaker 1>the heels of a game against the Miami Dolphins when

0:17:58.040 --> 0:18:00.720
<v Speaker 1>they Miami was just one of nine. So you're getting

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<v Speaker 1>off the field on third down zero five in the

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<v Speaker 1>red zone. I guess the other point of that is

0:18:06.840 --> 0:18:10.000
<v Speaker 1>the Bills controlled the ball throughout that game after the

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<v Speaker 1>first quarter. Yeah, it's very odd because the Bills all

0:18:15.520 --> 0:18:18.320
<v Speaker 1>their eighteen points came off field goals, but they also

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<v Speaker 1>didn't punt. So it's the epitome of bend. But don't break.

0:18:23.119 --> 0:18:24.960
<v Speaker 1>If you give up eighteen, you're gonna have a chance

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<v Speaker 1>to win. Everybody, that's right, I mean, but you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to Kansas City, and shoot, most teams are playing Kansas City.

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<v Speaker 1>You probably got to score and the high twenties at

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<v Speaker 1>a very at the ultimate minimum. Right, You saw the

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<v Speaker 1>Bills Monday Night Football where they said we're gonna play

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<v Speaker 1>small ball. We're gonna keep everything in front of us,

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<v Speaker 1>and they just gassed them on the grounds. Yeah, like

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<v Speaker 1>your poison against Kansas City. It is. It's almost like

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<v Speaker 1>when you when you talk to Coach Gaze on the

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<v Speaker 1>Adam Gay Show about DeAndre Hopkins, You're like, you almost

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<v Speaker 1>you almost know that he's gonna get his but how

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<v Speaker 1>much can you contain him? It's like the same thing

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<v Speaker 1>for the offense though of the Chiefs, right, It's like

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<v Speaker 1>you know they're gonna do something somehow, but how how

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<v Speaker 1>do you want to defend? Do you want to make

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<v Speaker 1>you wanted to be Clyde Edwards, Hilaiir? Do you want

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<v Speaker 1>to be Patrick Mahomes and Tyree Hill and Travis Kelsey

0:19:22.920 --> 0:19:25.800
<v Speaker 1>and all those guys. I think you gotta take the hand,

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<v Speaker 1>take the ball out of his hands. You know. I

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<v Speaker 1>know the Bills got crushed for it because they got

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<v Speaker 1>just they got ripped apart on the ground. But they

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<v Speaker 1>did have a chance to win in the fourth quarter.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, if Tyreek Hill is going over your head,

0:19:44.240 --> 0:19:48.800
<v Speaker 1>that scoreboard's gonna be lightening up like the fourth of July. Yeah,

0:19:49.040 --> 0:19:50.800
<v Speaker 1>and they have a great they have a great pass

0:19:50.840 --> 0:19:56.440
<v Speaker 1>catching tight end two and Kelsey and Hartman and tremendous speed,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know it's just and Andy Reichs play hon ers,

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<v Speaker 1>tremendous yes. And speaking of the Kansas City Chiefs, let's

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<v Speaker 1>check in with Bart Scott for our Victor Knox Swiss

0:20:08.320 --> 0:20:11.280
<v Speaker 1>Army Knife Player of the Game segment. Bart, the Jets

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<v Speaker 1>face the Chiefs in Kansas City. I'm sure you could

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<v Speaker 1>go in a number of different directions, but who is

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<v Speaker 1>your player or what is your matchup to watch Sunday.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, for me, it's always McKay Beckton because he's

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<v Speaker 1>such a dominant player. He's the most dominant player I

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<v Speaker 1>believe on the Jets. Him matching up against maybe Frank

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<v Speaker 1>Clark or whoever they decided to go over there, it's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be a show because now that I think that

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<v Speaker 1>they can believe that and confirm what they what they

0:20:36.520 --> 0:20:39.000
<v Speaker 1>always believe that this guy was one of the best

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<v Speaker 1>to have the potential to be a Hall of Fame player,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're gonna put the pressure on him. He can

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<v Speaker 1>take the pressure and he's only getting better. I love

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<v Speaker 1>the the te that they had with the receiver and

0:20:48.840 --> 0:20:51.639
<v Speaker 1>him pulling around and you know, watching everybody that was

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<v Speaker 1>on the train tracks. You know, make a business decision,

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<v Speaker 1>and you gotta lean to him not only in the

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<v Speaker 1>run game, but also in the passing game, giving everybody

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<v Speaker 1>else help because you're starting to get a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>interior pressure, so you can turn the protection, which makes

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<v Speaker 1>it hard to blitz in the middle. But it leaves

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<v Speaker 1>Beckton on an island. I think he's ready to have

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<v Speaker 1>Backton Island, you know, put him up there with some

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<v Speaker 1>of these seriously, to put him up there with some

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<v Speaker 1>of the other greats that were able to have islands.

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<v Speaker 1>And we know what I'm talking about in Derrell Rivas Hey,

0:21:20.960 --> 0:21:25.240
<v Speaker 1>I got Rivas Island here, I got mad Backer Island

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<v Speaker 1>over here, and good minds thinking like I can't believe

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<v Speaker 1>you're aligned with me today. I'm taking McKay back in

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<v Speaker 1>verse Frank Clark. Frank Clark can get after the quarterback.

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<v Speaker 1>He's got three sacks so far this year. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think for the Jets to stay in the ball game,

0:21:41.600 --> 0:21:45.359
<v Speaker 1>Bart they got to possess the ball. Let's see if

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<v Speaker 1>they can get that run game going. I thought the

0:21:47.520 --> 0:21:50.840
<v Speaker 1>game plan was very good early against the Buffalo Bill's

0:21:50.880 --> 0:21:54.000
<v Speaker 1>Frank Gore got on track and so did La Michael

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<v Speaker 1>p Ryan and the big ticket as he is called,

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<v Speaker 1>McKay backed and get now to the second level. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to see that. I don't want to see Tyrand

0:22:04.520 --> 0:22:08.600
<v Speaker 1>Matthew coming up with interceptions and being such a menace

0:22:09.359 --> 0:22:13.040
<v Speaker 1>for Jets quarterbacks. I want to see him maybe matched

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<v Speaker 1>up with McKay Beckton a time or two. You know

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<v Speaker 1>you can do that. Or you have to do is

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<v Speaker 1>force force him to step up and step and replace

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<v Speaker 1>crack replaced because if you take this guy but black

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<v Speaker 1>a big because we have the big receivers and ma'am's

0:22:26.000 --> 0:22:28.080
<v Speaker 1>and you have the big receiver impairment. Let's see if

0:22:28.080 --> 0:22:30.080
<v Speaker 1>he's gonna be available. But if he comes down and

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<v Speaker 1>he hits a defensive end or he hits a linebacker

0:22:32.720 --> 0:22:35.359
<v Speaker 1>and that forced the edge supporter to come up and

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<v Speaker 1>have to you know, the force defender to come up

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<v Speaker 1>and have to set the edge and um, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>let's see if you can set the edge against you know,

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<v Speaker 1>against Beckton and if he decided you know, the thing

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<v Speaker 1>about Beckton been so big, if you decide to cut him,

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<v Speaker 1>you can just fall on top of you, which is

0:22:47.800 --> 0:22:50.440
<v Speaker 1>a reverse pancake. And if you if not, you stand

0:22:50.440 --> 0:22:52.679
<v Speaker 1>the training tracks. He can hurt your felis because you

0:22:52.720 --> 0:22:54.840
<v Speaker 1>think you know Derrick Henry has a stiff arm. He

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<v Speaker 1>has a six inch punch. You know, arrival by Bruce Lee.

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<v Speaker 1>You know you guys are talking about McKay Beckton. I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like I have to mention Patrick Mahomes here and

0:23:04.920 --> 0:23:08.000
<v Speaker 1>this judge defense gonna be facing Patrick Mahomes. But it's

0:23:08.040 --> 0:23:11.159
<v Speaker 1>not just Patrick Mahomes, It's Tyreek Kale, It's me, Cole Hardman,

0:23:11.200 --> 0:23:15.600
<v Speaker 1>Sammy Watkins to Marcus Robinson, Travis Kelsey, Clyde Edwards, a

0:23:15.640 --> 0:23:18.560
<v Speaker 1>layer in the backfield. So for me, it's how is this?

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<v Speaker 1>Did you purposely leave one out? He hasn't been there

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<v Speaker 1>a while. I feel like he needs a couple of

0:23:24.960 --> 0:23:27.720
<v Speaker 1>games to get to get acclimated to the offense. He

0:23:27.800 --> 0:23:30.439
<v Speaker 1>only at thirty some yards in his debut. But I

0:23:30.520 --> 0:23:34.040
<v Speaker 1>understand the point. But here's my thing, Bart, if you're

0:23:34.240 --> 0:23:36.840
<v Speaker 1>the Jets defense, if you're Greg Williams, it's almost like

0:23:36.880 --> 0:23:39.920
<v Speaker 1>a pick your poison type of matchup for this defense.

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<v Speaker 1>So if I were to hand you the keys to

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<v Speaker 1>the playbook, Bart, how do you defend this Chief's offense?

0:23:45.160 --> 0:23:48.160
<v Speaker 1>And in particular, Patrick Mahomes. We have to understand one.

0:23:48.200 --> 0:23:50.240
<v Speaker 1>You have to keep Mahomes offend the pocket. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>he actually has more accord outside the pocket than he

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<v Speaker 1>is in the pocket. And what you want to make

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<v Speaker 1>sure that you do is you make sure that you

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<v Speaker 1>double everybody. You keep too high safeties. And you said,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're gonna beat us, it's gonna be because you

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<v Speaker 1>run for three hundred yards. And um, you hope that

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<v Speaker 1>those running backs, you know, get tired of pull a

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<v Speaker 1>hamstring for all the yards. You've given up a poster

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<v Speaker 1>letting my own kill you with one one place strikes

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<v Speaker 1>you make you know, Clyde Edwards a layer, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>make sure that he had holds onto the ball. You

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<v Speaker 1>make sure when you get there, you get there angry,

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<v Speaker 1>and you make sure that you you send him a message.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, it's like dying a slow death, supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to die to fast room. And you hope that during

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<v Speaker 1>that process, you know, somebody jumps off side, somebody has

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<v Speaker 1>a holding call. You forced him to have to block you,

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<v Speaker 1>and then hopefully they get behind the sticks and then

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<v Speaker 1>that's where you can you can get putts. And you

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<v Speaker 1>know we've seen that, we've seen you know, the the

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<v Speaker 1>We've seen the strategy of what teams will trying to do.

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<v Speaker 1>We've seen the Chargers and what they was able to

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<v Speaker 1>do an accomplice with Herbert getting his first start. Make

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<v Speaker 1>sure they're just attacking with four people because if you

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<v Speaker 1>blitz him, he's gonna make you pay for the bliss

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<v Speaker 1>because you're gonna have one on one with so many

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<v Speaker 1>guys that can run fast. And then then the natural

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<v Speaker 1>instinct for the corners is gonna be able to playoff

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<v Speaker 1>and give a cushion. Well, my homes has learned how

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<v Speaker 1>to to give you death by a thousand paper cuts,

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<v Speaker 1>because he'll throw that tin yard fifteen yard comeback until

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<v Speaker 1>you dare to come up there, and then that's when

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<v Speaker 1>he's gonna try and go over your head. You gotta

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<v Speaker 1>stay disciplined and stick with the game plan, no matter

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<v Speaker 1>if he had success or not. I think you're exactly right.

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<v Speaker 1>You gotta make the Chiefs kick field goals if possible.

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<v Speaker 1>The Jets have been better defensively on third down in

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<v Speaker 1>the last couple of weeks the Dolphins one and nine,

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<v Speaker 1>the Bills three of eleven, and last week they were

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<v Speaker 1>great in the red zone. Buffalo zero or five. Kansas

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<v Speaker 1>City is a completely different animal. Bart just want to

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<v Speaker 1>ask you real quickly. On the other side of the ball,

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<v Speaker 1>we both put McKay Beckton under the spotlight. But what

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<v Speaker 1>do the Jets do against the pressure that teams are

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<v Speaker 1>going to continue to throw against them? Like the Bills

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<v Speaker 1>did in the second half where they got their safeties

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<v Speaker 1>involved defensive backs blitzing, and the Jets weren't able to

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<v Speaker 1>get anything going offensively. You know, you know, you know

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<v Speaker 1>that Tyrone Matthews is going to be coming off the

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<v Speaker 1>edge and they've been giving up you know, defensive backs

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<v Speaker 1>coming off the age shape and you know, really you

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<v Speaker 1>know and able to have success with that. So, like

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<v Speaker 1>I said, the hardest thing to do is to do

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<v Speaker 1>do term protection where you put the you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>you put the running back on the same side as

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<v Speaker 1>Beckton and he's there to get all the leakers. But

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<v Speaker 1>you're expecting it not to be a lot of leakers

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<v Speaker 1>because back is that way, and you slide and you

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<v Speaker 1>turn the protection. You turn the protection. Instead of people

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<v Speaker 1>facing forward, they face slightly this way so that somebody's

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<v Speaker 1>coming they can just ear hold them and knock them

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<v Speaker 1>out their face. And if they got to squeeze to

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<v Speaker 1>a hole if everybody's turned like a fence this way

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<v Speaker 1>and you stack it up, and it's the hardest defense

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<v Speaker 1>to get through. Usually to be termed protecting, you have

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<v Speaker 1>to try and loop all the way around to the

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<v Speaker 1>opposite side in between becking, because it's gonna become a

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<v Speaker 1>natural hole. But that's the whole, almost like punt punt um.

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<v Speaker 1>It's almost like punt um protection where you see the

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<v Speaker 1>personal protector off to a side and everybody else slides

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<v Speaker 1>and him and beck him be on the back side.

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<v Speaker 1>That way. It allows, you know, you to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to see everything coming and nothing can get through the middle.

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<v Speaker 1>It has to come, you know, it has to come

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<v Speaker 1>from the outside. They have to find the short side.

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<v Speaker 1>And the short side I just gonna be McKay beckman

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<v Speaker 1>side and you hope that he could hold up better

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<v Speaker 1>than trying to act those individuals in the middle center

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<v Speaker 1>guard and guard to hold up all right. That was

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<v Speaker 1>another edition of the Official Jets Podcast presented by AWS

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<v Speaker 1>Army Knife Player of the Game segment Jets Chiefs Week

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