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Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Official Jets Podcast powered

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Speaker 1: by Amazon Web Services. Ethan Greenberg, Eric Allen here in

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Speaker 1: the bet MGM studio will be joined by Bart Scott

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Speaker 1: later in the episode for our Vics Tornox Swiss Army

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Speaker 1: Knife player of the Game segment as did Jets prepare

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Speaker 1: to face the defending Super Bowl champion Kansas City Chiefs

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Speaker 1: And before we talk anything Jets Chiefs with Bart Scott,

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Speaker 1: it's it's week eight of the season, which is crazy

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Speaker 1: with this season has flown by. It seemed like yesterday

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Speaker 1: that we were here inside the bed MGM studio for

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Speaker 1: the first time doing training camp live show, and now

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Speaker 1: we're eight weeks into the NFL season, which is just amazing,

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Speaker 1: it really is. But you know, for the Jets right now,

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Speaker 1: you saw some positive steps the previous Sunday against the

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills, but that challenges It is a tall task

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Speaker 1: going to Kansas City anytime, much less. Wow, this is

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Speaker 1: the defending Super Bowl champions and you're just a team

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Speaker 1: just looking for his first win. And any team too,

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Speaker 1: I mean any time, any team going to Kansas City.

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Speaker 1: I believe they allow fans also in Kansas City. I

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Speaker 1: could be wrong. On that, but I'm almost positive they do,

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Speaker 1: so there's gonna be some form of crowd element there also, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, and you get somewhat of a break that

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Speaker 1: there's not seventy people arrowhead. But this team, you can

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Speaker 1: make the argument that they have the most valuable player

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Speaker 1: in the National Football League lead that offensive, Patrick Mahomes,

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Speaker 1: and he's got so many weapons on the offensive side

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Speaker 1: of the ball, and defense plunk playing well as well.

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Speaker 1: So listen, any team going into Kansas City is a

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Speaker 1: tough challenge and the Jets are going to be up

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Speaker 1: against it. Let's see if they can find a way

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Speaker 1: to get to the fourth quarter and just give yourself

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Speaker 1: a chance. The Jets did that very well against the

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills. Just passed Sunday, held the Bills out of

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Speaker 1: the end zone multiple times, including times where you thought, oh,

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Speaker 1: maybe the Bills are finally gonna get one, like when

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen hits Tyler Croft down the left sideline, they're

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Speaker 1: in the red zone. The Jets held back to back possessions,

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Speaker 1: gave the offense a chance. But one player on defense,

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Speaker 1: and I think we should highlight because I think he's

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Speaker 1: played well, maybe a little under the radar over the

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Speaker 1: first seven games quinnin Williams, and he has three sacks

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Speaker 1: so far on the season, and right now, I would

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Speaker 1: say that he's definitely shown progress from that year one

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Speaker 1: to year two jump that you'd like to see for

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Speaker 1: all rookies. Well, first off, he's got to clean up

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Speaker 1: the flags. We know that, and he would probably be

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Speaker 1: the first one to tell you that. But from an

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Speaker 1: interior position, he's been very solid against the run. And

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Speaker 1: you mentioned the sect totals. This is a guy continues

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Speaker 1: to press the pocket up the middle and quarterbacks don't

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Speaker 1: like that. And we often forget that quinnin Williams is

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Speaker 1: just in his second season here. So let's say he

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Speaker 1: gets another sack, maybe he gets Mahomes down this weekend,

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Speaker 1: and you're hoping that happens if you're a Jets fan.

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Speaker 1: But if you're getting an interior rusher who has eight sacks,

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Speaker 1: who's very good against the run, who's often drawing double teams,

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Speaker 1: that's what you were looking for when you drafted Quinn

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Speaker 1: and Williams the previous April. So I think signs arrows

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Speaker 1: are pointing up with this guy. I like his motor,

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Speaker 1: he's got unique athletic ability. We always talk about how

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Speaker 1: low to the ground he is built, and he's explosive

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Speaker 1: really quick first step. Also that you've seen him burst

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Speaker 1: through the line a couple of times. He had two

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Speaker 1: sacks against the Niners in Week two. He had one

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Speaker 1: yesterday against the Bills. And I think that Quinn and

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Speaker 1: Williams is a player. You mentioned the sack total. If

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Speaker 1: he were to get eight sacks, let's say, right, just

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Speaker 1: to put things into personally, it's possible. Let's just say

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Speaker 1: that right now, he's got three sacks through seven games,

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Speaker 1: that is quite possible that he can end the year

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Speaker 1: finishing with that kind of sector. Right, So with that

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Speaker 1: in mind, if he were to finish with eight sacks,

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Speaker 1: eight sacks is but Jordan Jenkins led the Jets with

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Speaker 1: last season, so to get that kind of production from

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Speaker 1: impressive defensive tackle the Jets will see this weekend, Chris Jones,

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Speaker 1: who has four and a half sacks, which is crazy

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Speaker 1: to think from an interior position, but he's a great player.

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Speaker 1: Quinnin Williams, you know one and a half sacks back

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Speaker 1: many times he can go single against him. You're gonna

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Speaker 1: have to double him a lot. But what Williams is

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Speaker 1: one matchups. And the other guy who's been pretty good

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Speaker 1: I think for the Jets in another name out of

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Speaker 1: the radars, John Franklin Myers. He came up with the

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Speaker 1: fumble recovery when Terrell Basham got the corner on I

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Speaker 1: believe right tackle Darryl Williams and the Buffalo Bills and

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Speaker 1: he knocked the ball out of Josh Allen's hands, and

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Speaker 1: Franklin Myers was right there. He comes up with the

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Speaker 1: fumble recovery. But those are two guys who I think

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Speaker 1: have been bringing bringing it on the interior. The question

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Speaker 1: for the Jets over the years has always been who's

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Speaker 1: the guy threatening you on the outside, So it's It's

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Speaker 1: good to see bash getting them in the backfield, and

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Speaker 1: he's made some plays the last couple of weeks. Now,

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Speaker 1: Tarrell Basham two sacks in as many weeks. He had

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Speaker 1: one against the Bills forced fumble and one against the Dolphins,

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Speaker 1: his first of the two thousand twenty season. And when

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Speaker 1: you look at this Jets roster, we talked about guys

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Speaker 1: throughout the season like Joe Flaccol and Frank Gore, who

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Speaker 1: I realized that, as I said, Gore is the kind

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Speaker 1: of guy you wouldn't be surprised if he's playing fifty.

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Speaker 1: But with knowing those two guys are old for NFL years, right,

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Speaker 1: We've talked about them a lot, But the Jets have

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Speaker 1: a lot of young players throughout the roster that I

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Speaker 1: think of been at least somewhat productive for the team

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Speaker 1: when their numbers called. I mean, the first guy that

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Speaker 1: Denzel Mims comes off of I R Saturday and he

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Speaker 1: has forty yards in the first half. Granted, you'd like

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Speaker 1: to see more from Denzel Mims in the second half

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Speaker 1: in the offense as a total, I mean totally four

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Speaker 1: That was a veteran type play. So he's a guy

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Speaker 1: who we have to continue to watch because SAC against

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Speaker 1: Miami a big play in the defense an offensive backfield,

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Speaker 1: So what is his next steps? But on offensive side

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Speaker 1: an undrafted free agent in two thousand nineteen. He led

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Speaker 1: now I remember that two thousand twenty draft class. So

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Speaker 1: Steve McLennan and Tampa, now Quinn and Williams. We're seeing

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Speaker 1: had the natural raw athletic ability. I think that he

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Speaker 1: was slowed by injury last year. But quinnin is a

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Speaker 1: He's showing his talent. Bryce hoff starting to come on

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Speaker 1: um and then Uh, Jabari z Aninga is a guy

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Speaker 1: the Jets really liked. They drafted the four round out

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Speaker 1: the Jets drafted Bryce Hall, a lot of fans and

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Speaker 1: a lot of pundit's we're thinking, well, that could be

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Speaker 1: he has a similar path through Denzel Mims, meaning scout

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Speaker 1: see what you have. But his ball skills, he is

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Speaker 1: You know, it's like a snowball that turns into the avalanche.

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Speaker 1: How about Mims. Uh, he saw a lot of trade

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Speaker 1: He had those four receptions, a couple of crossing routes.

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Speaker 1: I really thought that one of his most impressive plays

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Speaker 1: and out of his routes, big guy, good catch radius. Um,

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Speaker 1: So he performed well in Game one. Yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: what stood out to me was what Mim said after

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Speaker 1: was outside and to go home. But Denzel Mims said,

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Speaker 1: you know, I know I can do a lot more

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Speaker 1: So I said, well, what do you mean by that?

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Speaker 1: And he says, well, my blocking. First off, he said

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Speaker 1: You know you guys are talking about McKay Beckton. I

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Speaker 1: So if I were to hand you the keys to

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Speaker 1: the playbook, Bart, how do you defend this Chief's offense?

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Speaker 1: And in particular, Patrick Mahomes. We have to understand one.

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Speaker 1: You have to keep Mahomes offend the pocket. You know,

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Speaker 1: if you're gonna beat us, it's gonna be because you

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Speaker 1: run for three hundred yards. And um, you hope that

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Speaker 1: those running backs, you know, get tired of pull a

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Speaker 1: letting my own kill you with one one place strikes

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Speaker 1: you make you know, Clyde Edwards a layer, you know,

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Speaker 1: make sure that he had holds onto the ball. You

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Speaker 1: make sure when you get there, you get there angry,

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Speaker 1: But you know, it's like dying a slow death, supposed

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Speaker 1: and then hopefully they get behind the sticks and then

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Speaker 1: that's where you can you can get putts. And you

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Speaker 1: know we've seen that, we've seen you know, the the

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Speaker 1: We've seen the strategy of what teams will trying to do.

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Speaker 1: We've seen the Chargers and what they was able to

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Speaker 1: sure they're just attacking with four people because if you

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Speaker 1: because you're gonna have one on one with so many

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Speaker 1: and give a cushion. Well, my homes has learned how

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Speaker 1: stay disciplined and stick with the game plan, no matter

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Speaker 1: if he had success or not. I think you're exactly right.

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Speaker 1: You gotta make the Chiefs kick field goals if possible.

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Speaker 1: The Jets have been better defensively on third down in

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Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks the Dolphins one and nine,

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Speaker 1: City is a completely different animal. Bart just want to

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Speaker 1: ask you real quickly. On the other side of the ball,

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Speaker 1: we both put McKay Beckton under the spotlight. But what

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Speaker 1: do the Jets do against the pressure that teams are

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Speaker 1: going to continue to throw against them? Like the Bills

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Speaker 1: get anything going offensively. You know, you know, you know

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Speaker 1: edge and they've been giving up you know, defensive backs

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Speaker 1: I said, the hardest thing to do is to do

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Speaker 1: do term protection where you put the you know, the

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Speaker 1: Beckton and he's there to get all the leakers. But

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Speaker 1: you're expecting it not to be a lot of leakers

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Speaker 1: because back is that way, and you slide and you

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Speaker 1: turn the protection. You turn the protection. Instead of people

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Speaker 1: facing forward, they face slightly this way so that somebody's

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Speaker 1: coming they can just ear hold them and knock them

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Speaker 1: out their face. And if they got to squeeze to

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Speaker 1: a hole if everybody's turned like a fence this way

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Speaker 1: and you stack it up, and it's the hardest defense

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Speaker 1: to get through. Usually to be termed protecting, you have

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Speaker 1: natural hole. But that's the whole, almost like punt punt um.

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Speaker 1: It's almost like punt um protection where you see the

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Speaker 1: personal protector off to a side and everybody else slides

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Speaker 1: and him and beck him be on the back side.

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Speaker 1: That way. It allows, you know, you to be able

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Speaker 1: to see everything coming and nothing can get through the middle.

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Speaker 1: It has to come, you know, it has to come

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Speaker 1: from the outside. They have to find the short side.

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Speaker 1: And the short side I just gonna be McKay beckman

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Speaker 1: side and you hope that he could hold up better

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Speaker 1: than trying to act those individuals in the middle center

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Speaker 1: guard and guard to hold up all right. That was

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Speaker 1: Army Knife Player of the Game segment Jets Chiefs Week

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