WEBVTT - A Look Back: Hannah Ann Interview 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:03.239 Hey, Happy Hour listeners. I hope you enjoyed these throwback 0:00:03.279 --> 0:00:06.400 episodes of Happy Hour. We'll be back with new episodes 0:00:06.519 --> 0:00:07.000 very soon. 0:00:09.280 --> 0:00:11.160 I don't even know where to start with this one, 0:00:11.200 --> 0:00:12.879 so first of all, I just have to announce that 0:00:12.920 --> 0:00:15.640 we are coming to you live from backstage at. 0:00:15.360 --> 0:00:18.920 After the final rows. I mean, how do we. 0:00:18.880 --> 0:00:21.759 Sum this up into one word? Becka, I mean, barbs 0:00:21.840 --> 0:00:24.919 what I've been saying, But I'm a speechless you guys, 0:00:24.960 --> 0:00:27.000 we have so much to get into, so much to 0:00:27.000 --> 0:00:29.640 talk about, Bacher Nation, Bacher Happy Hour listeners. 0:00:29.640 --> 0:00:30.840 I know you were upset that we didn't have. 0:00:30.800 --> 0:00:34.280 A podcast yesterday, but my god, was it not worth 0:00:34.320 --> 0:00:36.680 the wait? Were we not all waiting for what was 0:00:36.720 --> 0:00:40.040 going to happen tonight? We have a special guest with 0:00:40.120 --> 0:00:41.879 us in the studio today. But first I just have 0:00:41.920 --> 0:00:43.720 to say that I'm so happy that I am not 0:00:43.800 --> 0:00:46.360 doing this alone like I had to at Women's tell All, 0:00:46.400 --> 0:00:48.960 I have my wonderful co host with me Becca Koper 0:00:49.120 --> 0:00:50.040 is in the building. 0:00:50.960 --> 0:00:51.800 Back. 0:00:52.159 --> 0:00:52.680 I'm back. 0:00:52.840 --> 0:00:55.480 I am here off the road, taking a break from 0:00:55.520 --> 0:00:57.240 the tour for a couple of days. 0:00:57.240 --> 0:00:59.760 And Rachel, as you said, I mean, obviously we. 0:00:59.680 --> 0:01:01.440 Could have I've had a podcast today, but there was 0:01:01.480 --> 0:01:03.920 so much that was left inside that we had to 0:01:03.960 --> 0:01:07.120 see go down. So now you're getting the full gist 0:01:07.440 --> 0:01:09.520 of everything that we saw in the past two days, 0:01:09.520 --> 0:01:12.480 which I mean, this entire season was a crazy wild ride, 0:01:12.720 --> 0:01:16.520 and this evening just really I think summed everything that 0:01:16.560 --> 0:01:18.840 we've seen in the past ten weeks up in one night. 0:01:18.920 --> 0:01:21.240 And my mind is I mean, I feel like I'm 0:01:21.319 --> 0:01:22.760 kind of shaking right now. My mind is still a 0:01:22.760 --> 0:01:23.440 little bit blown. 0:01:23.560 --> 0:01:26.640 Yeah, And I think what's so great is, I'll be honest, 0:01:26.680 --> 0:01:29.440 we didn't get a lot of answers tonight. I feel 0:01:29.480 --> 0:01:31.360 like we heard a lot of talking, and there was 0:01:31.400 --> 0:01:33.839 a lot of talking in circles except for one person 0:01:33.840 --> 0:01:36.720 who I'm so thankful we get to talk to tonight. A 0:01:36.720 --> 0:01:39.840 lot of circular talking. And I think that what's going 0:01:39.880 --> 0:01:42.759 to be so great about our podcast tonight is that 0:01:42.800 --> 0:01:46.120 we're going to unravel exactly what happened. 0:01:46.160 --> 0:01:47.200 We're going to get down to it. 0:01:47.200 --> 0:01:49.160 We're going to ask the hard questions that weren't asked 0:01:49.160 --> 0:01:50.760 on stage, and we're going to make sure we get 0:01:50.760 --> 0:01:51.680 those answers. 0:01:51.360 --> 0:01:52.720 That we know Bacher Nation needs. 0:01:52.760 --> 0:01:55.520 So we're going to talk to some people tonight, but 0:01:55.720 --> 0:01:59.440 I am so excited that we are talking wit. 0:01:59.560 --> 0:02:01.160 Let me give you a drumm roll. We need a 0:02:01.240 --> 0:02:03.840 drum roll for the person. 0:02:04.040 --> 0:02:08.359 Only one person one tonight, and that person is Hannah Ann. 0:02:08.800 --> 0:02:11.080 Hannah Ann, welcome to Ba's for Happy Hour. 0:02:17.919 --> 0:02:19.920 Thank you guys having me. 0:02:20.480 --> 0:02:24.320 Well we I mean I needed personally first say, when 0:02:24.320 --> 0:02:26.640 I first met you five seconds ago, you often and 0:02:26.880 --> 0:02:29.320 I was hugging you, and I felt like I wanted 0:02:29.360 --> 0:02:32.560 to just take you under my wing because throughout this 0:02:32.720 --> 0:02:35.400 entire journey that I've had for years, there's probably only 0:02:35.440 --> 0:02:37.800 one other person who has now experienced things like I 0:02:37.880 --> 0:02:41.560 have experienced, and that is you. And let me first 0:02:41.560 --> 0:02:43.600 start by saying, yes, we're so excited to have you. 0:02:43.639 --> 0:02:45.560 We can't wait to dive in and get your side 0:02:45.560 --> 0:02:46.120 of everything. 0:02:46.600 --> 0:02:49.679 But the way you handle things when. 0:02:49.480 --> 0:02:53.240 Peter ended things and even tonight on stage, it was 0:02:53.280 --> 0:02:55.840 with so much grace and dignity. But I looked up 0:02:55.840 --> 0:02:57.360 to you in a way you said the things that 0:02:57.400 --> 0:02:59.480 you had to say, and when I was in your position, 0:02:59.520 --> 0:03:03.040 I was so I think blinded and nervous and anxious 0:03:03.080 --> 0:03:06.880 and feeling like so constricted that it was finally nice 0:03:06.919 --> 0:03:10.000 to see a badass woman stand up there and say 0:03:10.040 --> 0:03:12.320 what she needed to say to put Peter in his place. 0:03:12.480 --> 0:03:14.919 And as Rachel said, I really do feel like. 0:03:14.919 --> 0:03:17.160 You are the winner of tonight because you handled it 0:03:17.160 --> 0:03:18.160 with so much dignity. 0:03:18.200 --> 0:03:19.400 I'm so happy that you're here. 0:03:20.160 --> 0:03:23.120 And I think I speak on behalf of all of 0:03:23.200 --> 0:03:25.320 veterination when I say our hearts broke for you. I 0:03:25.320 --> 0:03:28.880 mean we were watching backstage and I truly felt how 0:03:28.919 --> 0:03:31.840 I felt years ago, and so thank you for being here. 0:03:31.840 --> 0:03:36.240 Thank you for putting your heart and everything, your love 0:03:36.240 --> 0:03:39.320 life on the line. You know, it's a weird it's 0:03:39.360 --> 0:03:42.400 a weird world when it's for other people's entertainment, but 0:03:42.440 --> 0:03:45.760 you handled everything beautifully, and I keep saying with so 0:03:45.840 --> 0:03:46.720 much grace, but thank you. 0:03:46.920 --> 0:03:48.440 I was thank you, guys. 0:03:48.560 --> 0:03:49.160 It was great. 0:03:49.400 --> 0:03:51.680 And I like the whole time that we were watching 0:03:51.720 --> 0:03:53.320 what happened tonight, Becca and I just. 0:03:53.440 --> 0:03:56.000 Kept like chatting like two little girls. 0:03:56.120 --> 0:03:58.280 And Becca kept saying that she understood you and what 0:03:58.320 --> 0:04:00.280 you went through. And I know that we're gonna, you know, 0:04:00.360 --> 0:04:03.440 dive into that even further into the podcast. But this 0:04:03.520 --> 0:04:05.640 is the first podcast that you've done, as you said, 0:04:05.680 --> 0:04:07.800 so thank you so much for doing our podcast first 0:04:08.480 --> 0:04:09.240 and you. 0:04:09.160 --> 0:04:10.200 Can stop after that. 0:04:13.280 --> 0:04:16.040 Because no one has talked to you, and then the 0:04:16.080 --> 0:04:17.920 first time we really heard you speak, I really want 0:04:17.960 --> 0:04:20.920 to get start from the beginning because we saw you 0:04:20.960 --> 0:04:23.320 one way and then we do not. It's one of 0:04:23.400 --> 0:04:24.760 the things that we did not get the answer to, 0:04:25.200 --> 0:04:27.320 even with you talking and standing up for yourself, we 0:04:27.400 --> 0:04:30.080 did not understand how it got to where it did, 0:04:30.160 --> 0:04:32.599 and we're so help hoping to get those answers tonight. 0:04:33.160 --> 0:04:35.200 So I really want to get into it because I 0:04:35.240 --> 0:04:40.360 feel like you have been unfairly judged, and I'll even 0:04:40.360 --> 0:04:42.480 say that I did it as well. 0:04:42.920 --> 0:04:43.160 You know. 0:04:43.279 --> 0:04:45.320 I first time we talked to Peter and I saw 0:04:45.360 --> 0:04:47.840 you still him so many times. I compared you to 0:04:47.920 --> 0:04:50.320 Luke p I was like, is she a little bit 0:04:50.880 --> 0:04:52.000 Luke peish? 0:04:52.080 --> 0:04:54.719 And he said, no, she's not, and he was like 0:04:54.800 --> 0:04:55.560 really defensive. 0:04:55.560 --> 0:05:00.600 So I was like, Okay, we got it. She's going 0:05:00.680 --> 0:05:01.320 some places. 0:05:01.760 --> 0:05:05.840 No. But I feel like one one theme in y'all 0:05:05.920 --> 0:05:09.040 season is that there was a lack of communication and 0:05:09.080 --> 0:05:12.440 people weren't really communicating their feelings and their thoughts, and 0:05:12.520 --> 0:05:14.239 you got a lot of heat for it as well, 0:05:14.279 --> 0:05:17.120 But tonight you put all that to rest. So let's 0:05:17.200 --> 0:05:19.880 kind of start from the beginning with you know, you 0:05:19.960 --> 0:05:23.359 getting the first impression Rows and how that night went down, 0:05:23.560 --> 0:05:26.120 and so I guess one, did you think you were 0:05:26.120 --> 0:05:28.440 going to get it? And did you feel like you 0:05:28.520 --> 0:05:30.720 had a target on your back? And this is pre 0:05:31.000 --> 0:05:34.520 Champagne gay, Let's just not well yeah. 0:05:34.240 --> 0:05:38.520 Yeah, So the first night, you know, getting the first impression, 0:05:38.800 --> 0:05:39.800 I you know, there's a lot. 0:05:39.760 --> 0:05:42.360 Of girls around, and I wanted you. 0:05:42.279 --> 0:05:43.560 Know, I was excited to see Peter. 0:05:43.760 --> 0:05:46.440 You know, we film all night long, hours and hours 0:05:46.440 --> 0:05:48.800 and hours, so the times that I would go up 0:05:48.839 --> 0:05:50.880 and see him again hours had passed. 0:05:51.320 --> 0:05:52.800 I'm like, of course I want to go see him again. 0:05:52.839 --> 0:05:55.480 If I get the opportunity, I want to go speak 0:05:55.480 --> 0:05:55.920 with him again. 0:05:55.920 --> 0:05:58.320 I mean, I've been waiting to like speak with him, 0:05:58.400 --> 0:06:02.240 and I'm here for purpose. My words have a purpose 0:06:02.240 --> 0:06:05.159 and meaning behind them, and I I was excited to 0:06:05.160 --> 0:06:07.479 get to know him. Plus, if I'm taking the time 0:06:07.600 --> 0:06:11.280 to start this journey, I want to be sure if 0:06:11.320 --> 0:06:14.440 we even have a connection. You know, I enjoyed spending 0:06:14.480 --> 0:06:16.440 time with the other girls, but at the forefront of 0:06:16.440 --> 0:06:18.919 my mind was always going to be Peter and seeing 0:06:18.960 --> 0:06:22.479 if we had that connection, and if I didn't ever 0:06:22.760 --> 0:06:24.880 feel that, I would have parted ways. 0:06:25.360 --> 0:06:28.640 You know, weren't you worried about being that girl, that 0:06:28.760 --> 0:06:30.880 girl who's going to be the one stealing him because 0:06:30.880 --> 0:06:31.279 you didn't know. 0:06:31.279 --> 0:06:33.320 You were going to get the first impression of usk? Yeah, 0:06:33.360 --> 0:06:34.880 So does that not cross your mind at all? 0:06:34.880 --> 0:06:36.560 Because I know at one point you said, I'm not 0:06:36.640 --> 0:06:38.920 typically like this, but we couldn't tell. 0:06:39.000 --> 0:06:41.520 Right right, And I think in the beginning I came 0:06:41.560 --> 0:06:45.039 off completely like the wrong way, and looking back on 0:06:45.080 --> 0:06:47.479 and I'm like, oh my goodness, like that was not 0:06:47.839 --> 0:06:50.479 what I wanted to come across as. But I was 0:06:50.560 --> 0:06:54.240 just focused on me and Peter and tried to keep 0:06:54.240 --> 0:06:56.440 that at the forefront of my mind at all times, 0:06:56.480 --> 0:07:00.479 and enjoyed the entire process, even if meant, you know, 0:07:00.480 --> 0:07:03.000 spending time with the girls. But at the end of 0:07:03.040 --> 0:07:05.400 the day, when I was there Peter and Peter only 0:07:05.520 --> 0:07:08.320 and trying to figure out and give our give us 0:07:08.360 --> 0:07:08.919 the best shot. 0:07:09.240 --> 0:07:10.960 Well, and I will say because we did sit down 0:07:10.960 --> 0:07:12.840 with Peter at the very beginning and I asked him, 0:07:12.840 --> 0:07:14.840 I was like, did you like that that haim An 0:07:14.960 --> 0:07:15.840 stole you so many times? 0:07:15.840 --> 0:07:17.560 And he did. He was all for it. 0:07:17.640 --> 0:07:18.920 Yeah, he said he was wanting to talk to me 0:07:19.000 --> 0:07:19.560 more that night. 0:07:19.800 --> 0:07:22.040 Yea, okay, so he liked it. So clearly it was 0:07:22.080 --> 0:07:23.480 reciprocated on both ends. 0:07:23.560 --> 0:07:25.840 It wasn't like he was like, who's this crazy girl 0:07:25.840 --> 0:07:26.800 who keeps stealing me? 0:07:26.960 --> 0:07:27.200 Yeah? 0:07:27.240 --> 0:07:29.080 I know it might seem like I was pressing myself 0:07:29.080 --> 0:07:30.840 on him, but he was telling me he wanted to 0:07:30.840 --> 0:07:33.560 talk to me more that night, you know, and opportunities 0:07:33.600 --> 0:07:36.200 were presented to me to talk to him. And it's 0:07:36.200 --> 0:07:38.280 been a couple of hours. I'm like, sure, Yeah, he 0:07:38.800 --> 0:07:40.240 told me to talk to him again, so I'm like, 0:07:40.280 --> 0:07:43.760 I'm going to So feelings were, you know, on both 0:07:43.800 --> 0:07:45.800 sides wanting to communicate and talk more. 0:07:46.120 --> 0:07:49.120 Yeah, it were. It did, It clearly did. And then 0:07:49.160 --> 0:07:51.720 we go on to I mean fast forward a little bit. 0:07:51.800 --> 0:07:53.120 This whole champagne gait. 0:07:53.040 --> 0:07:55.760 Which was champagne was such a common theme. I feel 0:07:55.760 --> 0:08:00.760 like throughout what was your take? Because when we recapped 0:08:00.800 --> 0:08:04.760 that week, I was saying, you know, there's clearly the 0:08:04.800 --> 0:08:07.040 show does certain things. They set up certain things to 0:08:07.280 --> 0:08:09.800 you know, stir the pot and to cause that drama. 0:08:09.880 --> 0:08:12.000 And I really truly was like, I don't think han 0:08:12.040 --> 0:08:12.840 Ann knew that that. 0:08:12.800 --> 0:08:14.640 One was Kelsey's. I think she just saw it was 0:08:14.680 --> 0:08:15.400 a cute set. 0:08:15.360 --> 0:08:16.880 Up for her and Peter, So we didn't think you 0:08:16.880 --> 0:08:19.360 did it maliciously. But what was your take when that 0:08:19.400 --> 0:08:20.000 all went down? 0:08:20.360 --> 0:08:24.400 Oh my goodness, when all that went down, I wastely 0:08:24.440 --> 0:08:26.160 blindsided by it and I. 0:08:26.120 --> 0:08:27.960 Didn't know how to handle it. 0:08:28.480 --> 0:08:32.720 And you know, in the end, me and Kelsey were 0:08:32.760 --> 0:08:34.840 able to like, you know, put aside our differences and 0:08:34.840 --> 0:08:36.760 become friends because we were like, hey, we have like, 0:08:37.000 --> 0:08:39.280 you know, a couple more weeks with each other, hopefully, 0:08:39.520 --> 0:08:41.440 like we have to pull you know, we have to 0:08:41.480 --> 0:08:43.120 put this bull crap aside. 0:08:42.760 --> 0:08:45.680 And like learn to you know, be friends or at 0:08:45.760 --> 0:08:47.200 least live like in the same house together. 0:08:48.240 --> 0:08:51.280 So when all that went down, I was like, oh crap, 0:08:51.360 --> 0:08:53.319 Like I've never had that conflict like this, Like how 0:08:53.320 --> 0:08:55.400 do I handle this? So like I was just trying 0:08:55.440 --> 0:08:57.400 to be as logical as possible and just be like, hey, 0:08:57.440 --> 0:08:59.920 I didn't steal your champagne, and like that came across 0:09:00.360 --> 0:09:03.280 maybe to some people as like cold hearted, but I 0:09:03.320 --> 0:09:05.840 was just trying to like be as straightforward and concise 0:09:05.880 --> 0:09:08.440 as possible and not let the emotions get to me. 0:09:08.520 --> 0:09:08.959 And it did. 0:09:09.040 --> 0:09:09.480 Upset me. 0:09:09.720 --> 0:09:10.679 I remember that night. 0:09:10.720 --> 0:09:12.800 I cried all night long, and I remember some of 0:09:12.800 --> 0:09:15.000 the girls in the house were like, you know, they 0:09:15.000 --> 0:09:17.640 can't ant like people like like the other girls need 0:09:17.679 --> 0:09:19.520 to see the side of you, Like they need to 0:09:19.559 --> 0:09:20.280 see that you're. 0:09:20.160 --> 0:09:22.640 Upset and see that you didn't mean that. 0:09:22.880 --> 0:09:24.199 But in the moment, I was just trying to be 0:09:24.280 --> 0:09:26.920 as clear as possible with her, so she knew that 0:09:26.960 --> 0:09:27.760 my point got across. 0:09:27.840 --> 0:09:30.680 I did not steal your champagne. That's where you know I'm. 0:09:30.559 --> 0:09:34.120 Not just champagne, because I was just trying to like, 0:09:34.240 --> 0:09:35.959 you know, we'll let her know that. 0:09:36.040 --> 0:09:37.720 And I get it. I mean I never was in 0:09:37.760 --> 0:09:41.480 a sorority. I mean, I have a big group of girlfriends. 0:09:41.480 --> 0:09:42.360 But when you're. 0:09:42.600 --> 0:09:46.360 Living with twenty plus people from all across the country, 0:09:46.400 --> 0:09:48.320 people that you don't know, you don't know how they interact, 0:09:48.400 --> 0:09:51.200 how they process things, it's a really scary thing. And 0:09:51.240 --> 0:09:54.120 I and I think you handled it well. I will say, 0:09:54.120 --> 0:09:55.559 I mean I would have probably done the same. I 0:09:55.559 --> 0:09:57.839 would have been like, look, I can't feel this fire 0:09:57.960 --> 0:09:59.760 so much. I'll say what I have to sail confronted. 0:10:00.440 --> 0:10:03.520 Hopefully it dies. But it's a really people I don't 0:10:03.520 --> 0:10:06.080 think realize how scary that first week is, Like it's 0:10:06.120 --> 0:10:08.320 all aknown so you have no idea what to expect 0:10:08.360 --> 0:10:12.679 with the lead, with the production aspect, with living with 0:10:12.720 --> 0:10:15.880 so many people, and so it's it's unturned territory that 0:10:16.160 --> 0:10:18.720 no one, no one should actually know how to handle that. 0:10:19.040 --> 0:10:19.560 Right, right. 0:10:19.559 --> 0:10:21.800 And me and Kelsey didn't know each other at that point, 0:10:21.840 --> 0:10:25.280 so we didn't kind of know, you know, how we 0:10:25.320 --> 0:10:27.640 both you know, how we both respond to situations are 0:10:27.720 --> 0:10:28.240 very different. 0:10:28.280 --> 0:10:29.640 But what I know now about her and what she 0:10:29.679 --> 0:10:30.599 knows now about. 0:10:30.320 --> 0:10:32.040 Me, it would have been completely different. 0:10:32.040 --> 0:10:34.560 I mean that was like day five based yea, so 0:10:34.600 --> 0:10:36.920 we didn't know each other at all, which would have changed, 0:10:36.960 --> 0:10:39.040 you know, both of our responses to the situation. 0:10:39.360 --> 0:10:41.320 I think what was hard for people to handle is 0:10:41.360 --> 0:10:43.920 you were so cool, calm and collected. 0:10:43.440 --> 0:10:44.160 In your response. 0:10:44.160 --> 0:10:45.920 And I remember saying, I was like, I probably would 0:10:45.960 --> 0:10:49.840 have responded the same way that it came across as nonchalant, right, And. 0:10:50.240 --> 0:10:52.679 I was like, I think that it's being misunderstood because 0:10:52.720 --> 0:10:54.800 I got it. I was like, kudos to her. It's like, 0:10:55.080 --> 0:10:57.120 I don't even think I could have handled it that well. 0:10:57.440 --> 0:10:59.000 I think the one thing was that I think you 0:10:59.040 --> 0:11:01.440 said it was bullying her, and I think it's a 0:11:01.440 --> 0:11:03.480 word that we throw out around too often. 0:11:03.800 --> 0:11:07.800 She definitely cursed you out, which was wrong. She was 0:11:07.840 --> 0:11:09.280 wrong and how she handled. 0:11:08.960 --> 0:11:12.880 It for sure, But I think the way you handled it, 0:11:12.920 --> 0:11:14.800 I didn't think you needed to cry and match her 0:11:14.800 --> 0:11:17.240 emotion in that. I thought that the way that you 0:11:17.320 --> 0:11:20.720 handled it kind of diffuse the situation and it didn't 0:11:20.760 --> 0:11:22.880 create a Fanasco. 0:11:23.160 --> 0:11:24.280 Can talk about. 0:11:24.080 --> 0:11:30.400 Masco, Yes she is, and what happened. 0:11:30.600 --> 0:11:32.960 This whole season has been a Fanasco and that is 0:11:33.000 --> 0:11:34.640 my cap on the whole entire season. 0:11:35.120 --> 0:11:37.200 I was actually gonna do you know the right word? Right? 0:11:37.360 --> 0:11:38.480 Yeah, fanasco. 0:11:38.760 --> 0:11:41.720 Can't you say the right word fiasco? 0:11:41.840 --> 0:11:42.400 Fiasco? 0:11:43.480 --> 0:11:44.440 I was trying to give you. 0:11:44.760 --> 0:11:46.680 I was trying to give you a chance. 0:11:46.800 --> 0:11:49.559 You know what I like to say, fanasco. 0:11:50.400 --> 0:11:53.600 But for the record, you do know it's fiasco. 0:11:53.840 --> 0:11:58.680 Yes, but you should trademark fanasco. 0:11:59.160 --> 0:12:00.000 I should. 0:12:00.080 --> 0:12:02.120 It's just like, and you know what's so funny is 0:12:02.160 --> 0:12:04.400 that in the moment I said that, and I had 0:12:04.480 --> 0:12:07.360 no idea that I even like misspoke, Like I had 0:12:07.400 --> 0:12:09.920 no idea and like that'sn't even like a word that 0:12:10.000 --> 0:12:11.599 I had used in the bath, So I don't know. 0:12:17.000 --> 0:12:18.760 I had no idea where that came from. 0:12:18.920 --> 0:12:21.360 Look, your brain was shumbled that first week. 0:12:21.400 --> 0:12:23.120 A lot went down. I would have been making them. 0:12:23.400 --> 0:12:25.480 I do still make up my own words, So I 0:12:25.480 --> 0:12:28.360 don't blame you for that. So we go on. 0:12:28.600 --> 0:12:30.360 Well, of course we see you form friendships like you 0:12:30.400 --> 0:12:31.160 and Kelsey seem. 0:12:31.360 --> 0:12:34.360 Yeah, she's a really sweet girl, you guys. She doesn't 0:12:34.360 --> 0:12:35.680 have a mean bone in her body. 0:12:35.800 --> 0:12:38.599 She's very very just had to get past the champagne. 0:12:39.720 --> 0:12:39.960 Women. 0:12:40.040 --> 0:12:40.920 Tell she was cool. 0:12:41.000 --> 0:12:43.760 I didn't steal your champagne. After that, she became like. 0:12:43.720 --> 0:12:46.480 A really great friend, honestly, and you're still friends. Yeah, 0:12:46.520 --> 0:12:48.880 we are, all right, she's a really nice person. 0:12:48.800 --> 0:12:54.640 So let's jump. Let's just just move on. Well, you 0:12:54.640 --> 0:12:55.920 know you got roses. 0:12:56.320 --> 0:12:58.520 We were We knew you were a front runner, you know, 0:12:58.640 --> 0:13:00.880 after you won the modeling thing, which totally should have 0:13:01.040 --> 0:13:02.640 or how are those is that revolved that you're wearing? 0:13:02.640 --> 0:13:03.920 Are the Revolt clothes working for? 0:13:04.200 --> 0:13:05.480 Does not to point that out? 0:13:05.559 --> 0:13:07.680 Like a girl's dream, right, like, just to be able 0:13:07.760 --> 0:13:10.880 to get twenty five twenty four thousand dollars worth whatever 0:13:10.880 --> 0:13:11.559 it was worth. 0:13:11.360 --> 0:13:14.760 Of clothes the closet No, it is not, and it should. 0:13:15.160 --> 0:13:16.480 That's a good problem to happen. 0:13:16.960 --> 0:13:19.760 So I want to just just get right to Fantasy 0:13:19.800 --> 0:13:23.840 Suites because you have a meme that's going around where 0:13:24.000 --> 0:13:25.760 you're looking and I wish you guys. 0:13:25.840 --> 0:13:28.000 You guys know that's what happy our listeners. 0:13:28.000 --> 0:13:31.200 You know what I'm talking about, where you're like, it's 0:13:31.200 --> 0:13:33.800 the best meme ever with the brown and the squinty 0:13:33.800 --> 0:13:36.360 guys like, say what now, that's that's. 0:13:36.160 --> 0:13:37.040 What the face is. 0:13:37.720 --> 0:13:39.720 So we learn in the Fantasy suite. We all know 0:13:39.760 --> 0:13:41.960 what goes down to Fantasy Suite. Nobody, whether you've watched 0:13:42.000 --> 0:13:44.400 Bouts or or not, you know what Fantasy Suite is about. 0:13:44.640 --> 0:13:48.280 And in this Fantasy this week, you guys all stay together, right, 0:13:48.320 --> 0:13:49.160 which is crazy. 0:13:49.360 --> 0:13:53.960 But you learn about Madison. You learn her thoughts. 0:13:53.640 --> 0:13:56.000 About Fantasy sueet week, which at that point she had 0:13:56.000 --> 0:13:58.960 shared with you, but she hadn't shared with Peter himself, right, 0:13:59.880 --> 0:14:01.120 And then it became this. 0:14:01.120 --> 0:14:03.559 Whole ultimatum thing. Was it an ultimatum? 0:14:03.640 --> 0:14:03.960 Was it not? 0:14:04.240 --> 0:14:06.040 I'm asking you? Was it an ultimatum? 0:14:06.280 --> 0:14:07.200 Was it an ultimatum? 0:14:08.320 --> 0:14:11.439 You know, for me, me and Madison are just two 0:14:11.480 --> 0:14:14.120 different people and we make different decisions, and I felt 0:14:14.160 --> 0:14:17.079 completely uncomfortable that entire weekend that I even knew, you. 0:14:17.000 --> 0:14:19.240 Know, the conversations that she was wanting to have with Peter. 0:14:19.360 --> 0:14:21.200 I was just wanting to focus on me and him 0:14:21.520 --> 0:14:23.560 and not let anything. 0:14:24.520 --> 0:14:25.520 Distract me from that. 0:14:26.000 --> 0:14:29.680 So thinking that it's an ultimatum between Madison and Peter, 0:14:31.880 --> 0:14:33.320 not necessarily because I. 0:14:33.280 --> 0:14:37.360 Think Madison was doing what was best for her, But that's. 0:14:37.120 --> 0:14:39.920 Not an ultimate that's not the definition of an. 0:14:39.400 --> 0:14:43.480 Ultimatum is like if you do this, then this, Yes, 0:14:44.120 --> 0:14:46.840 It's like, doesn't matter your motive behind because it's not 0:14:46.920 --> 0:14:49.080 wrong to believe what you believe and to feel that. 0:14:49.120 --> 0:14:51.880 No, but nobody's a judged her for that. I never 0:14:52.000 --> 0:14:54.160 judged her for that. Was I taken back by it? 0:14:54.680 --> 0:14:56.800 Yes, because I didn't want to be involved in it. 0:14:56.840 --> 0:15:00.640 I don't want to have these conversations with anyone, you know, 0:15:00.720 --> 0:15:02.800 about them and Peter. I was focused on me, and 0:15:02.840 --> 0:15:05.240 so when she was telling me, you know, she felt 0:15:05.280 --> 0:15:08.440 like he couldn't do certain things for her to move 0:15:08.440 --> 0:15:09.920 forward with him, I was just kind of like gave 0:15:09.920 --> 0:15:12.280 her a look of a what were. 0:15:12.200 --> 0:15:13.520 You close with her in the house? 0:15:13.760 --> 0:15:16.920 Yeah, yeah, we I was, Yeah, I was close with her. 0:15:17.800 --> 0:15:20.240 I wanted to know did she talk because we didn't 0:15:20.280 --> 0:15:23.480 see her bring up this conversation with Peter until the 0:15:23.600 --> 0:15:24.800 very end, the very end. 0:15:24.920 --> 0:15:26.880 And was this something because I feel like when I 0:15:27.000 --> 0:15:28.520 was on ra season. 0:15:28.240 --> 0:15:29.840 With all the girls, we talked about a lot, like 0:15:29.880 --> 0:15:31.040 everything was out in the open. 0:15:31.240 --> 0:15:32.920 There wasn't many secrets between us. 0:15:32.960 --> 0:15:34.960 So was this something that was brought up in the 0:15:35.200 --> 0:15:37.040 in the house with all of the girls beforehand, or 0:15:37.080 --> 0:15:39.000 was that the first time you were hearing about it too? 0:15:39.840 --> 0:15:42.920 I think when we sat down, we you know, had 0:15:42.960 --> 0:15:46.560 to have that conversation about her telling Peter her standards 0:15:46.560 --> 0:15:47.000 and stuff. 0:15:47.040 --> 0:15:48.920 You know, I gave that look because I was kind 0:15:48.920 --> 0:15:49.920 of taken back by it. 0:15:50.000 --> 0:15:51.000 So you hadn't heard it before? 0:15:51.080 --> 0:15:55.320 No, I was thinking in my I knew, you know, 0:15:55.520 --> 0:15:58.680 she had certain lifestyle values and I knew that they 0:15:58.680 --> 0:15:59.800 didn't line up with Peter's. 0:16:00.120 --> 0:16:01.880 But I was thinking that they might have had that 0:16:01.880 --> 0:16:05.120 conversation weeks before and its prior. 0:16:06.800 --> 0:16:08.640 But my face is kind of like, oh gosh, I 0:16:08.680 --> 0:16:11.080 don't want to get involved in this, like you know 0:16:11.160 --> 0:16:14.080 you do you know, for me, I was never intending 0:16:14.120 --> 0:16:16.560 to give Peter a hall pass of you do whatever 0:16:16.560 --> 0:16:19.440