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Speaker 3: look over our left shoulder, my left shoulder, maybe you're
Speaker 3: right shoulder.
Speaker 2: That is a blazing.
Speaker 3: Sun in the western sky. It's in the eastern sky,
Speaker 3: but on the west coast. That's right there.
Speaker 2: You go. We would have a real scoop if it
Speaker 2: was coming up.
Speaker 4: With the worst like every day.
Speaker 2: Here is a chamber of commerce day. Really Where to God,
Speaker 2: I walked out yesterday. They was in a cloud in
Speaker 2: the sky.
Speaker 4: It was blue.
Speaker 2: It was nice and windy, nice and I should say
Speaker 2: not windy, and I just went, Son of a God.
Speaker 2: These people live like this, you know what.
Speaker 3: My sister and her husband lived in La Jolla for
Speaker 3: several years and now and for the last twenty five
Speaker 3: years they've lived in Austin. The reason they left La
Speaker 3: Jolla is he got boring. They wanted to change the seasons,
Speaker 3: and so they moved to Austin. Like Austin has.
Speaker 2: La Joia is like one of my favorite cities in
Speaker 2: the United States.
Speaker 4: Oh my lord.
Speaker 3: But she said, after a while, you know, when you
Speaker 3: grow up in Texas and her husband in Oklahoma, you know,
Speaker 3: after a while you.
Speaker 2: Want to change a season, so it gets boring. I'll
Speaker 2: tell you what that One year the Cowboys practiced for
Speaker 2: three or four.
Speaker 4: Days against San Diego. We stayed in La Joya.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh my. The Chargers used to train in La Joya.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: All right, So here we are, and it is it's
Speaker 2: day number five for us here. If we're going to
Speaker 2: we're gonna count the travel day. On Monday. We had
Speaker 2: practice number two yesterday. We'll have a walk.
Speaker 3: Through number three today in practice number three tomorrow, and
Speaker 3: then a day off on Friday because we all need
Speaker 3: rest on Sunday.
Speaker 2: On Sunday because we all need rest. Absolutely, So yeah, geez,
Speaker 2: just what two more? Well, kind of one and a
Speaker 2: half more days of these mini camp practices. Today's kind
Speaker 2: of a walk through type deal. They'll get the usually
Speaker 2: try to get the big guys off their feet after
Speaker 2: a two day grueling practices out here. By the way, if.
Speaker 3: You are in the area, there is there are no
Speaker 3: fans here. Today, Tomorrow's the big day, the opening ceremony.
Speaker 2: Opening ceremony, and then a day off and then put
Speaker 2: the pads on on Monday. So so far, so good, although,
Speaker 2: as Brad Sham says, we come to training camp to
Speaker 2: find out who gets hurt, and the Cowboys have already
Speaker 2: suffered at least one serious injury with Donovan Wilson.
Speaker 4: It's a.
Speaker 2: It was explained to me that your calf has two
Speaker 2: muscles and he sprained one of them up high where
Speaker 2: it connects behind your knee and sounds like multiple weeks.
Speaker 2: I've been told two to four probably for sure. So
Speaker 2: it's a serious sprain or strain, however you want to
Speaker 2: call it. Kind of similar to what happened to Joe
Speaker 2: Burrow yesterday, who's angling for a new contract and he
Speaker 2: suffers a calf'sper boy, When I saw a video of that,
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, that's his achilles, just because it
Speaker 2: was a non contact and he grabbed the back of
Speaker 2: his leg, but I think they've it could have been
Speaker 2: worse for Joe Burrow, yes, said it's a calf straight.
Speaker 2: So Donovan Wilson out Israel and Mkwamu has a hamstring
Speaker 2: so he's going to be out a couple more days.
Speaker 4: So Yeah.
Speaker 2: Unfortunately, Matt Willsco has an illness and he's missed the
Speaker 2: first two days of practice. So from an injury standpoint, yeah,
Speaker 2: the Cowboys, I mean, I.
Speaker 4: Know you.
Speaker 2: Know I'm gonna suffer injuries, but you hate to suffer
Speaker 2: them when it's non context. And then Trayvon Diggs was
Speaker 2: on the side yesterday, so he must be doing his
Speaker 2: own personal ramp up.
Speaker 4: They must not.
Speaker 2: Have liked whatever shape he showed up in and make
Speaker 2: sure that he's ready to go. So he didn't do
Speaker 2: much the first day after he signed his contract and
Speaker 2: did rehab type stuff yesterday, So we'll see where that goes.
Speaker 2: But again with those guys, that give us some young guys.
Speaker 4: An opportunity to get out there and get more snaps.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and even with all the injuries, no matter the
Speaker 3: severity of it, at this point, when you're so early
Speaker 3: in training camp, you're going to and especially for players
Speaker 3: that have been on the roster before, You're going to
Speaker 3: take the time to make sure that it's right before
Speaker 3: they go back out there.
Speaker 2: Now, for guys on the bottom of the roster, they
Speaker 2: got to play through.
Speaker 4: You got to power through it, right.
Speaker 2: Yeahs, As I've always been told, especially by the trainers,
Speaker 2: you're not winning the Super Bowl on July twenty eighth, right,
Speaker 2: so make sure you don't extend the injuries anymore by
Speaker 2: rushing them back. But yeah, you're exactly right. Young guys
Speaker 2: need to power through. And then the only two other
Speaker 2: guys not practicing second round draft choice Luke scoon Maker
Speaker 2: still dealing with his foot injury and Jordan Lewis is
Speaker 2: on Pop trying to recover from his foot surgery.
Speaker 3: So how much of a setback do you think it
Speaker 3: is for Luke's Schoonmaker being a rookie here. You know,
Speaker 3: I'm watching him yesterday and as they were basically going
Speaker 3: through walk through type drills at the end of practice yesterday.
Speaker 3: But he you know, you can see him back behind
Speaker 3: the offense and he is mimicking everything that the tight
Speaker 3: end does on a certain play, right, So he's getting
Speaker 3: those you can see how he is in tune.
Speaker 2: He's focused, he is.
Speaker 3: Engaged in every drill mentally, and to the point that
Speaker 3: he's actually sort of slow motion mimicking exactly what the
Speaker 3: tight end is doing on the play.
Speaker 2: But how far does it setting back that he's not here?
Speaker 2: I think anytime young guys like that aren't out there,
Speaker 2: I mean, he needs to get out there. I don't
Speaker 2: know if it's a type of thing where he can
Speaker 2: kind of because it's plant our fasci itis, power through
Speaker 2: it or what. But you know, when I'm watching practice,
Speaker 2: Sean McEwan, who had been thought to be.
Speaker 4: The the uh.
Speaker 2: What the fourth fourth right with third ride receiver, fourth
Speaker 2: wide receiver, is soon screw tight end.
Speaker 4: Sorry.
Speaker 2: Uh, you know he's starting to step up, and they
Speaker 2: got another guy that's got his hand up in the air.
Speaker 2: And I know it's only two days, but John Stevens
Speaker 2: from Louisiana Lafayette made a nice catch in team drill
Speaker 2: for a touchdown, and I've heard that he's caught their attention.
Speaker 2: So if nothing else, you know, you don't know if
Speaker 2: he makes the team. Obviously he can only keep so
Speaker 2: many tight ends. Uh, but at least the practice squad,
Speaker 2: So uh, that was a good sign when you, like
Speaker 2: you said, other guys get an opportunity.
Speaker 4: Uh and he's taken advantage of his.
Speaker 3: And uh So when you look at that depth chart,
Speaker 3: Peyton enders shots the other guy that's in there on
Speaker 3: that depth chart at tie end. But I would think
Speaker 3: with a guy like Schoonmaker, him being a second round
Speaker 3: draft pick, in contrast to what we just said about
Speaker 3: young players got to power through, Right, that's different when
Speaker 3: you're a draft pick, especially second round draft pick, they're
Speaker 3: gonna they're gonna take their time make sure he's right,
Speaker 3: because he is a valuable asset.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, no doubt.
Speaker 2: But you know, that was a position I think people
Speaker 2: were worried about because they didn't or I should say,
Speaker 2: Dalton Schultz didn't want to re sign with the Cowboys.
Speaker 2: As Stephen Jones pointed out in the opening press conference,
Speaker 2: they offered him a long term deal, but he was
Speaker 2: still butt hurt that he had to play on the
Speaker 2: franchise tag the previous season. Butt hurt he he made
Speaker 2: like ten million dollars, right, goodness, gracious.
Speaker 3: And well, speaking of injuries, you look elsewhere around the league,
Speaker 3: and not only did the Joe Burrow injury, but then
Speaker 3: Jalen Ramsey goes down right in the Dolphins camp. You know,
Speaker 3: the Dolphins, they're kind of the hot pick around the
Speaker 3: NFL world this year that you know, they make that
Speaker 3: acquisition of Jalen Ramsey and here it is the first
Speaker 3: week of camp and Ramsey's lost until December.
Speaker 2: It looks like, yeah, boy, that's that's tough, especially when
Speaker 2: you're in these non contact drills. But again, I still
Speaker 2: I mean, I understand why they do it, do it,
Speaker 2: but I don't get it. You do all that work
Speaker 2: in the off season, then you give guys five weeks
Speaker 2: off and then you come to camp and expect them
Speaker 2: to just pick up where they left off. Well, if
Speaker 2: guys aren't diligent and get back on their own a
Speaker 2: week early and start working out again. That's what happens
Speaker 2: with these soft tissue injuries. Anything catch your eye the
Speaker 2: first couple of yeah, let me look here on my
Speaker 2: little notepad from practice yesterday. You know, in the press conference,
Speaker 2: Mike McCarthy talked about not using Tony Pollard and Terrence
Speaker 2: Steele when they went eleven on eleven. Well, early in
Speaker 2: practice they were out there eleven on eleven and so
Speaker 2: that's another good sign that they can kind of push
Speaker 2: those guys a little bit.
Speaker 4: Talking to Terren Steele, I was asking him.
Speaker 2: I said, so, when you think you're kind of ready
Speaker 2: to get out there full time play some football when
Speaker 2: the pads come on, and he said, well, it's probably
Speaker 2: a couple of weeks, maybe you know, a month. So
Speaker 2: but he felt really good of about where he's at.
Speaker 2: He talked about how he changed his diet and and
Speaker 2: it's not that he's lost weight, he said, he's read
Speaker 2: distributed his weight. And somebody asked him, so, what did
Speaker 2: you do? He goes, well, I kind of like sweet,
Speaker 2: so I decided can't eat that.
Speaker 4: And the guy said what else?
Speaker 2: He goes pizza? I just can't stop eating pizza. He goes,
Speaker 2: but I've decided that those things aren't good for me,
Speaker 2: especially when I was rehabbing the ACL injury.
Speaker 4: So he looks good, he's moving good.
Speaker 2: And without Zach Martin here, So when they get the
Speaker 2: first team offensive line out there, it's Tyron Smith, Tyler
Speaker 2: Smith be oddish, Josh Ball has taking Zach Martin's spot,
Speaker 2: and then Terren Steele is out at right tackle.
Speaker 3: You know what strikes me about these offensive linemen, They
Speaker 3: are some big guys. I mean, you can see the
Speaker 3: draft profile that the scouting department has on these offensive linemen.
Speaker 2: I'm tall, not just big, but tall, rangy, big.
Speaker 3: Guys you know, with size as well, which reminds me
Speaker 3: when Jerry Jones bought the team in nineteen eighty nine,
Speaker 3: I think he said there were four play offensive linemen
Speaker 3: in the league that weighed over three hundred pounds thirty
Speaker 3: four years ago.
Speaker 2: Well, you won't find four offensive linemen under three hundred
Speaker 2: pounds in any camp now. If you think back to
Speaker 2: the mid eighties, Tom Landry didn't want his offensive lineman
Speaker 2: much heavier than like two seventy right, two sixty. And
Speaker 2: that's why when Nate Newton showed up the kitchen, who,
Speaker 2: by the way, is supposed to show up and be
Speaker 2: with us next week on mix shots, he shows up
Speaker 2: at about three forty and it was like, oh my gosh,
Speaker 2: wew big this guy is. And that was a change
Speaker 2: for Tom to have an offensive lineman that big. So
Speaker 2: the other thing with when Steel wasn't out there full
Speaker 2: time at right tackle, uh, Chuma Adgo was out there,
Speaker 2: uh And I was watching U the second team offensive line,
Speaker 2: and they had a Doga at left tackle. They had
Speaker 2: Matt Farniac at left guard, and then the center was
Speaker 2: brock Hoffman. T J. Bass, who they really like, was
Speaker 2: at right guard, and Alex Taylor Preolu pre preol Prelo
Speaker 2: was at right tackle. So, uh, that's kind of how
Speaker 2: they were lining up the backup. And you know what,
Speaker 2: somebody to say, well, why is that important? Well, they
Speaker 2: get they're gonna need some backups, right, and they're gonna
Speaker 2: need some backup interior guys. So it bodes well to
Speaker 2: kind of keep an eye on some of those guys.
Speaker 3: You know, you mentioned John Stevens Junior earlier. One thing
Speaker 3: about out him. You know, he is the son of
Speaker 3: a former NFL running back, the late John Stevens, who
Speaker 3: played with the New England Patriots. Did not know that
Speaker 3: he also is the brother of Sloan Stevens. The yes,
Speaker 3: really and he went to TCU, but he wound up
Speaker 3: at Louisiana Lafayette. But he first was recruited to TCU
Speaker 3: as a wide receiver, a big wide receiver, two hundred
Speaker 3: and thirty pounds out of high school in Louisiana.
Speaker 4: What is he now?
Speaker 2: He's whether they listen you okay, yeah, six six. Yeah.
Speaker 2: He's a big, rangy guy.
Speaker 3: I mean, and you can tell that the coaches really
Speaker 3: like him just the way that they're using. It's kind
Speaker 3: of one of those things if the coach is talking
Speaker 3: to you, right, they feel like they got a.
Speaker 2: Use for you, at least they know you come off.
Speaker 3: If you get your one rep and you come off
Speaker 3: the field and they kind of ignore you, that's not
Speaker 3: so good. Well with him, they're talking to him, and
Speaker 3: so I think they like what they see out of him.
Speaker 3: He's going to be a fun guy to watch during
Speaker 3: preseason game.
Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you what he move well and when
Speaker 2: he runs that kind of pattern down the slot, that's
Speaker 2: a big man moving down the slot against little guys
Speaker 2: trying to cover, which is what you're looking for in
Speaker 2: this league. Absolutely matches.
Speaker 3: All right, we're just getting started on this edition of
Speaker 3: Mixed Shots. We got much more to cover. Well, we've
Speaker 3: noticed down here on the field the first couple of
Speaker 3: days and what we can look forward to and they
Speaker 3: put on the pads on Monday when Mix Shots returns.
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Speaker 3: Dak Prescott met with the media yesterday. He did what
Speaker 3: did you take from what Dak had to say?
Speaker 2: You know, the one thing I guess he kind of
Speaker 2: poked fun at himself when he said he was in
Speaker 2: the meeting room. I guess I don't know if it
Speaker 2: was the offense or just the wide receivers running back,
Speaker 2: but they were talking and someone was someone brought up
Speaker 2: who was the oldest guy in the room, and Dak said,
Speaker 2: his head down, you know it was it was? He
Speaker 2: said it was when they were on their retreat.
Speaker 3: On the treat took the seventeen teammates receivers, tight ends
Speaker 3: and running backs outside Atlanta for a little their getaway
Speaker 3: and they're bonding their.
Speaker 2: Right football fishing, little fellowship. Yeah, there you go. It was.
Speaker 2: I wish I would have thought of this when I
Speaker 2: wrote the story last night on the air. I needed
Speaker 2: another f in there. It was football fishing and fellows
Speaker 2: there what it was?
Speaker 3: And uh and so he was he was sitting there
Speaker 3: and someone, uh, you mentioned that thirty year old or
Speaker 3: who's the oldest guy in the right in the room
Speaker 3: and he had his head down taking notes. I guess
Speaker 3: he brought in speakers and stuff they did.
Speaker 2: They had somebody, I don't know organization the organization that
Speaker 2: was there, which is great. Uh, And he had his
Speaker 2: head down in the room kind of got silent and
Speaker 2: there it's it's you deck.
Speaker 3: Yeah right, but he and he turns thirty tomorrow, right,
Speaker 3: and so he's been kidded by Uh. It was funny
Speaker 3: yesterday Ceedee Lamb did his interview with all the assembled
Speaker 3: media out on the field after practice yesterday and people
Speaker 3: were asking him if if he's easing Dak about turning
Speaker 3: thirty and see he said, he got a broad smile
Speaker 3: on his face. Is that's all he's been doing, He's
Speaker 3: been teasing about it. Then Brandon Cook said that he's
Speaker 3: got he's got Dak's back because he's about in that
Speaker 3: sad he's twenty nine and closed he's closing in on
Speaker 3: for he's a couple of months behind Dak on it.
Speaker 3: So yeah, absolutely, And may you think of Brandon Cook's
Speaker 3: as being older than that?
Speaker 4: I thought so too. It just seems like, well he's
Speaker 4: been in the league, what is this his tenth year?
Speaker 4: Am I right?
Speaker 3: He was first round draft pick number twenty overall in
Speaker 3: twenty fourteen?
Speaker 2: So is it is his tenth season? Actually, this thing
Speaker 2: says it's his eleventh season. He's going into his eleven
Speaker 2: What year did you say he came out? Maybe I
Speaker 2: brought wrote it down wrong. I'm not sure.
Speaker 3: Fourteen and New Orleans picked him twentieth overall in twenty Fourteen's.
Speaker 2: What I've got? That should be ten r Yeah, going
Speaker 2: into tenth season? Man? Speaking of that, Wow, you think
Speaker 2: he can run good?
Speaker 3: You know there's some players that switch teams because they
Speaker 3: are a malecontent, right, you know, and he's been on
Speaker 3: a number of teams. They don't get along with players,
Speaker 3: or maybe they don't. There's not a professionalism about him
Speaker 3: that is that is not Brandon Cooks. Brandon Cooks is
Speaker 3: exactly what you want on a football team.
Speaker 2: Pussly, a veteran guy that's not afray. He's comfortable in
Speaker 2: his own skin, he doesn't feel threatened. He's helping the
Speaker 2: young guys out. Just go talk to any of them
Speaker 2: and how much Brandon Cooks is you know, whatever they want,
Speaker 2: ask questions and he helps him out, especially Jalen Tolbert,
Speaker 2: who I thought had another nice day catching the ball yesterday.
Speaker 3: More on Jalen just second, Brandon. I remember when Brandon
Speaker 3: came out of Oregon State, and he's one of those
Speaker 3: guys in my Big Green Notebook where I just just
Speaker 3: watching videos of him.
Speaker 2: I just couldn't stop watching him.
Speaker 3: And there were some workout videos that he had that
Speaker 3: were posted showing him working out at Oregon State, which
Speaker 3: was reflected by the way at the scouting combine when
Speaker 3: he ran a four to three three forty at a
Speaker 3: thirty eight vertical and a six seventy six cone drill.
Speaker 2: I mean, this kid, this.
Speaker 3: Guy can really fly and now approaching his thirtieth birthday, right,
Speaker 3: he can still fly, he says, and I believe him
Speaker 3: that he hasn't lost any of his speed.
Speaker 2: Talk to the wide receiver coaches and they'll tell you, you know, he.
Speaker 4: Still can scoot.
Speaker 2: And don't get a misconception that five ten he's just
Speaker 2: a slot receiver. He can play outside and that's the
Speaker 2: beauty of both he and Ceedee Lamb inside outside, And
Speaker 2: there's trying to develop Jalen Tolbert into that same type
Speaker 2: of receiver along with Michael Gallup, because the top three
Speaker 2: guys are pretty interchangeable, so teams don't know where they're
Speaker 2: gonna be and the beauty of it is and I
Speaker 2: noticed this in some of the off season drills when
Speaker 2: they got two guys to one side and one to
Speaker 2: the other. When they're three wide, they can put either
Speaker 2: of the two guys in motion and move to the
Speaker 2: other side, and I think that's going to cause some
Speaker 2: headaches for some defenses out there.
Speaker 3: Jalen Tolbert, what is it that you've noticed about him
Speaker 3: in the first couple of days and maybe compared to
Speaker 3: what you saw at the beginning of camp last year.
Speaker 2: When he first well, you know, the beginning of camp,
Speaker 2: we were pretty impressed with him, and then it seemed
Speaker 2: like when the lights come on.
Speaker 4: He got a little bit overwhelmed.
Speaker 2: But number one, when sitting there talking to him back
Speaker 2: at at the mini camp, I was just physically, he's
Speaker 2: he's developed. You know how guys make that big jump
Speaker 2: from their first year to second year when all they
Speaker 2: have to do is work out in the offseason. I
Speaker 2: think he's stronger. The other thing, I think he's mentally
Speaker 2: tougher and he seems to be more comfortable running routes
Speaker 2: and knowing what he has to do, but most of
Speaker 2: all catching the ball, and he's made some really nice
Speaker 2: catches along the sideline. And boy, if he can continue
Speaker 2: to develop and they have four wide receivers like that,
Speaker 2: they're going.
Speaker 4: To be pretty potent on offense.
Speaker 2: You know, it's interesting.
Speaker 3: You talk about competition, and obviously the top three receivers
Speaker 3: are set with Lamb Cooks in Gallop, but the competition
Speaker 3: for the fourth and fifth receivers spots on this team
Speaker 3: is really pretty.
Speaker 2: Open, right, so you know they're expecting Semi Fijoko to
Speaker 2: step up. Unfortunately, I think they would like to have
Speaker 2: a role for Turpin right and he's not here yet.
Speaker 2: It was back home the birth of his child. Uh,
Speaker 2: they would, yeah, absolutely, because they can talk about how
Speaker 2: they can, you know, fit him into the office more
Speaker 2: than just a gimmick. And if you remember when they
Speaker 2: signed him out of the USFL, he was the most
Speaker 2: valuable offensive player in the league last year.
Speaker 4: And it wasn't just because of his returns.
Speaker 2: He was one of the leading wide receivers in the
Speaker 2: league even at his size.
Speaker 3: Because what you have to look at too, is that
Speaker 3: you know, Noah Brown has been a part of this team,
Speaker 3: what for five years or so, right, and now he's
Speaker 3: a Houston, Texan, and so there's a there's an opening
Speaker 3: at that in that wide receiver depth chart, right, you
Speaker 3: know about number seventeen out there, Dennis Houston.
Speaker 4: I was just going to bring him up.
Speaker 3: And Dennis Houston, you know, he was the talk of
Speaker 3: camp last year. And the reason he was the talk
Speaker 3: of camp last year was because Dak Prescott was talking
Speaker 3: about Rice Houston so much.
Speaker 4: Last and he and he was performing.
Speaker 3: Was performing, and what Dak liked about him was his
Speaker 3: work ethic.
Speaker 2: He'd been the right spot, you know.
Speaker 3: And and he's out here, I'm sure doing the same
Speaker 3: stuff this year. And he having been on the practice
Speaker 3: squad throughout the year, he's been in the system. You know,
Speaker 3: he's he's been with he's been here with him for
Speaker 3: another year. And so I don't discount Dennis Houston. If
Speaker 3: he can contribute on special teams and take on that
Speaker 3: kind of a wide receiver role that Noah Brown had
Speaker 3: on special teams, that's where that's.
Speaker 2: Going to be one of the keys in deciding who
Speaker 2: right who emerges there. And if you remember he was
Speaker 2: a starter in season opener last year because Michael GalF
Speaker 2: wasn't ready right, And if you think about how the
Speaker 2: Cowboys started this season last year, it was Ceedee Lamb,
Speaker 2: Noah Brown and Dennis Houston. You think they've improved the
Speaker 2: wide receiver room now that Michael Gallup looks like he's
Speaker 2: back to being Michael Gallup. That's what. When we were
Speaker 2: doing your your deal yesterday, the three guys walked by, right,
Speaker 2: and I said, okay, I've named them the new Triplets.
Speaker 4: I mean, that's that. That's some serious.
Speaker 2: Speed out with all due respect to yeah rightlets Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's a triplet position triplet.
Speaker 3: But but there is another guy in that wide receiver
Speaker 3: room that the scouts and coaches probably targeted back in
Speaker 3: April that this might be our Noah Brown. And that
Speaker 3: is the seventh round draft pick, Jalen Brooks, right and
Speaker 3: uh and Noah Brown was the seventh round the.
Speaker 2: Guy I looked up and I said, oh, that guy
Speaker 2: is huge.
Speaker 4: No, that's not him.
Speaker 2: There was somebody else that they caught my eye. But yeah,
Speaker 2: Jalen Brooks sixty one two oh three. Uh and and
Speaker 2: he has uh at times shown up in these first
Speaker 2: two practices now again, we always have to qualify it
Speaker 2: because they're not in pads yet. You're there's no uh,
Speaker 2: no jeopardy of getting hit catching the ball over the middle.
Speaker 4: So uh, we'll see how that works.
Speaker 3: Well, here's the other thing on Jalen Brooks and why
Speaker 3: I bring this up as a guy who would be
Speaker 3: and maybe scouts looked at him as a guy who
Speaker 3: might be that Noah Brown type that can play special
Speaker 3: teams and also wide receiver when he went well, he
Speaker 3: was at South he was at South Carolina, but prior
Speaker 3: to that, he was at North Carolina and he was
Speaker 3: a converted linebacker, no way linebacker to wider. So he
Speaker 3: has experienced tackling football players.
Speaker 4: Well, and that will be important and you know they'll.
Speaker 2: Tell you even in the running back room, right, special
Speaker 2: teams is going to be very important to figure out
Speaker 2: how many of those guys, uh, they can keep, especially
Speaker 2: for the full back Luke Luke. I can't say it
Speaker 2: Lepke is hunter Lepke hunter Lepke. I mean he to
Speaker 2: make it as a fullback and create another spot in
Speaker 2: that running back room. He's got to be pretty good
Speaker 2: in specialty. Yeah, that's right.
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Speaker 2: me clarify on Jalen Brooks because I.
Speaker 3: Misspoke from what my notes which I couldn't read in
Speaker 3: my book here. He went to Wingate University in North.
Speaker 2: End, North Carolina, not UNC got to tar Heels, which
Speaker 2: is a Division two school, or he was converted linebacker,
Speaker 2: and then he transferred to Tarleton State. After that, he
Speaker 2: spent a year at Tarleton State on Stephenville, which is
Speaker 2: near the Dallas Fort Worth area, before transferring to South
Speaker 2: Carolina for his senior and Super Senior seasons. So there's there.
Speaker 3: You go on Jalen Brooks, All right, opening ceremonies tomorrow
Speaker 3: here right, Well, you don't have to get here early
Speaker 3: because you're already living on the premises here. But I
Speaker 3: remember last year and in previous years opening ceremonies because
Speaker 3: I'm in a hotel off campus, and.
Speaker 2: Typically Mosey over here.
Speaker 3: You know, if McCarthy's having his press conference at ten
Speaker 3: forty five, I like to get here by about nine
Speaker 3: or so nine thirty, you know, an hour or so
Speaker 3: ahead of time.
Speaker 2: Not like when you show up at the Star and
Speaker 2: show up for like two minutes eleven o'clock show.
Speaker 4: He shows up at ten fifty eight.
Speaker 3: He ever, I know, I could be pretty confident that
Speaker 3: I can get in the building, get everything fine there.
Speaker 3: I'm telling you, the line of cars on Saturday opening
Speaker 3: ceremonies morning is unbelievable out here on what would be
Speaker 3: Ventura Right Boulevard out here. I mean, they don't open
Speaker 3: the gate, the parking lot gate probably until you know,
Speaker 3: ten o'clock in the morning. And I'm told that they
Speaker 3: start lining up before the sun comes up in the morning.
Speaker 3: But and actually I did a little Twitter video of
Speaker 3: it as I was driving. I just pulled my iPhone
Speaker 3: out and as I was driving, I fortunately the media
Speaker 3: we get to go around that we don't have to
Speaker 3: stand in right the line that the line had to
Speaker 3: stretch at least a mile down the road. I mean,
Speaker 3: it was unbelievable how many people are.
Speaker 2: Just when they put the pads on Bill and I
Speaker 2: take my morning bike ride and if I go that way,
Speaker 2: and when i'm coming back and it's like seven thirty eight,
Speaker 2: the gates don't open till like ten thirty. I count
Speaker 2: the cars that I passed because they're pulled over on
Speaker 2: the side of the road waiting to get in. And
Speaker 2: even when I go out, and when I go out
Speaker 2: it's like six thirty, there's five or six cars there
Speaker 2: and they're tailgating breakfast out there. I went by one
Speaker 2: morning and it was at least two or three out,
Speaker 2: probably three hours before the gates opened, and I counted
Speaker 2: like twenty five cars already lined up, and they're all
Speaker 2: out there talking to each other because it's like they're
Speaker 2: like tailgating before we get yeah, and they want to
Speaker 2: be the first ones in so when they get the
Speaker 2: prime position.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, and you do that for you can get
Speaker 3: in prime position, whether it be in the grand stand.
Speaker 2: Or along the fence right where you can be in
Speaker 2: position to get your autographs or.
Speaker 4: Or parking up clothes.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it is amazing, and uh, you know, and they've
Speaker 3: made it now here where it's it's very fan friendly as.
Speaker 2: Far as you know.
Speaker 3: They've got a stage set up back there, and when
Speaker 3: Nate gets here, he'll hold court back by the stage
Speaker 3: or on the other side of the grand stand over there,
Speaker 3: and uh, you know, they've got concession stands, souvenir stands
Speaker 3: set up and there's uh so it becomes a pretty
Speaker 3: good little place to bring the kids and a social
Speaker 3: setting as well. So you know, I get people back
Speaker 3: home they say, you know, oh, you're going out to
Speaker 3: training camp.
Speaker 2: I need to bring the family out there. Whatever.
Speaker 3: And I would highly recommend it because because I think
Speaker 3: there's something for everyone to enjoy coming out here, and
Speaker 3: it's a laid back and it's not just football.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's free yeah right, unless you're coming over here,
Speaker 2: unless you want to get in the big platform they
Speaker 2: set up against the wall there. One year and I'd
Speaker 2: been coming out here for all those years.
Speaker 4: I believe it was summer of twenty sixteen.
Speaker 2: Came out here for a week vacation before training camp,
Speaker 2: just because I wanted to do all the stuff you
Speaker 2: can do that we can't get a way to do
Speaker 2: during during training camp. It's a great area. And by
Speaker 2: the way, I need two shoutouts. One my sunglasses fell
Speaker 2: off the door knob on the tile floor and cracked
Speaker 2: one of the arms right, and I tried balancing it
Speaker 2: right and it just wouldn't work.
Speaker 4: So I ended up at Sam's.
Speaker 2: It went to their opticle and said, is there any
Speaker 2: chance you've got frames that will fit my prescription lenses
Speaker 2: because I've got a doctor's appoint when I get back,
Speaker 2: and I didn't want to get new lenses.
Speaker 4: And then they say, oh, we're changing the prescription.
Speaker 2: So the lady pulled a couple of them off the
Speaker 2: wall and tried fitting them in there. They didn't work.
Speaker 4: She goes, just give me a second.
Speaker 2: She made one phone call, She made another phone call
Speaker 2: and found a store that had the same brand as sunglasses.
Speaker 4: And I was like, well, how nice is that?
Speaker 2: Right? And I just told her you just went beyond
Speaker 2: and then I went and got them and now.
Speaker 4: I'm back in business.
Speaker 2: The other thing is my first day here, took my
Speaker 2: first back ride, had a flat tire, flat tire, and
Speaker 2: we had the show right, I had to walk back
Speaker 2: and I got back about twenty minutes before we started
Speaker 2: the show. Craig Miller at the ticket. Here's a big cyclist,
Speaker 2: a huge cyclist. He goes, oh, go get a go
Speaker 2: get a tube and I'll change it in five minutes.
Speaker 4: And I said, what do you mean?
Speaker 2: I said, it takes longer, and he goes, I'll change
Speaker 2: it in five minutes. So yesterday I brought it over
Speaker 2: and uh, in their break at the crosstalk, he started
Speaker 2: changing my tire. Wow, and he about finished before they
Speaker 2: got off the air. So he was on the air
Speaker 2: doing an in service on changing a flat tire.
Speaker 3: So Craig is one of those types. I mean he he,
Speaker 3: I mean he's rode in events right.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Well when he comes out here. There's a
Speaker 2: road that goes up off the one oh one to
Speaker 2: o Hi. It's kind of up elevation. He rides up it.
Speaker 2: When I did it, I went up and I rode down.
Speaker 3: He went one year he went to France, Yeah, and
Speaker 3: just wrote a bike around France like he was in
Speaker 3: the French Open.
Speaker 2: He takes it to Europe a couple of nothing, yeah,
Speaker 2: the French French and then he played tennis. He went
Speaker 2: to Rolling Garls to front the French Open. Friend. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so he probably went to Rolling Garrols and went on
Speaker 2: the clay court as well. He's such an avid biker
Speaker 2: that he's got all the tools changing tire too.
Speaker 4: So shout out to Craig.
Speaker 3: All right, all right, shout out in our final five
Speaker 3: minutes here to what's gonna happen. Uh, come Monday when
Speaker 3: they put the pads on. You're gonna have your eye
Speaker 3: on when they put the pads on on Monday.
Speaker 4: The kicking competition.
Speaker 2: That's not what I was expecting. Sure they could do
Speaker 2: a kicking competition without pads on. No, because they're going
Speaker 2: to be behind the line. They're gonna use the deep snapper,
Speaker 2: the whole that that's new, by the way, the holder
Speaker 2: and then the two kickers, and uh, it's a very
Speaker 2: interesting story. Having signed on, I believe it was July tenth,
Speaker 2: Brandon Aubrey, a soccer player, played professional soccer, kind of
Speaker 2: burned out on soccer, told me he went kind of
Speaker 2: went home and decided he need to get a normal job.
Speaker 2: He had just gotten married. He said, I needed make
Speaker 2: some money to support my wife. And he said, within
Speaker 2: two months he got bored with this office job. Right.
Speaker 2: He was a software expert or whatever for a financial firm.
Speaker 2: And so he said he was sitting there watching football
Speaker 2: one day and his wife said, you know what you
Speaker 2: should try that you kick the ball, so well, you
Speaker 2: should try it. So he goes out and kind of
Speaker 2: messes around and he goes, you know what, maybe we
Speaker 2: get this. An opportunity calls around and he ends up
Speaker 2: going to the John Carne kicking camp. Right, so Carney
Speaker 2: ends up being his kicking coach. Well, here's how things
Speaker 2: work out. John Carney went to Notre Dame. That's where
Speaker 2: Aubrey went and played soccer. John Carney was there when
Speaker 2: Lou Holtz became the head coach at Notre Dame, and
Speaker 2: for one year his son, Skip Holtz, walked on to
Speaker 2: the football team. Wow, okay, now let's go forward. And
Speaker 2: when Aubrey couldn't find he tried out for a couple
Speaker 2: NFL teams on that kicking caravan. He ends up with
Speaker 2: a job in the USFL, the Birmingham Stallions. The head
Speaker 2: coach is Skip Holtz. Where's the walk on from Notre Dame? Right,
Speaker 2: So the connection between John Carney and Skip Holtz. When
Speaker 2: they overlapped one year at Notre Dame, Skip says, Okay,
Speaker 2: I need a kicker. Let's bring this guy in. So
Speaker 2: he gets his start in Birmingham. First year makes fourteen
Speaker 2: of fifteen, No the second year fourteen of fifteen.
Speaker 4: Uh and Chris Bonio.
Speaker 2: The Cowboys former kicking coach and kicker, was the coach,
Speaker 2: the kicking special teams coach.
Speaker 4: So all these connections.
Speaker 2: And then Darryl Johnston is the head of the league
Speaker 2: basically league right, and John Fossil said that, you know,
Speaker 2: I mean bone old Tommy Fossil came and scouted the game,
Speaker 2: and the Cowboys kept saying, We're gonna look everywhere, right,
Speaker 2: even other leagues. Well, in the back of their mind
Speaker 2: they knew they were going to sign this guy. And
Speaker 2: then when the US said.
Speaker 3: Way for a season, and of course they win the championship,
Speaker 3: they went away until July first.
Speaker 2: And so they got him signed and now here he
Speaker 2: is and it's for now. We should have been able
Speaker 2: to figure this out, Brandon, Yeah, right, you know when
Speaker 2: we go through Ota in the mini camp and they
Speaker 2: still haven't brought in a second kicker. And I've got
Speaker 2: these veteran guys out there, especially Sint's still out there, Bill.
Speaker 3: Right, especially since they did the same thing with Camante
Speaker 3: Turpin last year exactly who played in the USFL and
Speaker 3: was the MVP. And okay, so, and we even sat there,
Speaker 3: and I watched for a little bit the USF and
Speaker 3: it crossed my mind, I need to watch the kickers here.
Speaker 2: And I didn't even bother to do it right well,
Speaker 2: And I watched that championship game that he was kicking,
Speaker 2: and it didn't cross my mind, right, and John Fossil
Speaker 2: told me, he goes. We already had that. By the
Speaker 2: time that game was played. It was a done deal.
Speaker 2: It was just a matter of waiting and doing all
Speaker 2: the paperwork you have to do to sign guys out
Speaker 2: of the USFL.
Speaker 4: He likes them.
Speaker 2: He thinks, Number one, he's talented. Number two, he has
Speaker 2: the right demeanor to be a profes football kicker.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 2: So now it's a matter of just going out and
Speaker 2: competing and being able to deal with the pressure. And
Speaker 2: not only that, but the wind that blows at on
Speaker 2: this field. And they've created even a bigger wind tuttal
Speaker 2: with the.
Speaker 4: Construction next height two no no.
Speaker 2: I was watching it and somebody was pointing to me,
Speaker 2: you can see what it was doing to the trees
Speaker 2: way up high because you can't feel it on the field.
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Speaker 2: To join us next week.
Speaker 4: Next week, you'll be here right Nate Newton.
Speaker 3: On his way here to Oxnard because he doesn't care
Speaker 3: about any of this stuff until they put.
Speaker 2: The pads on.
Speaker 4: All he worries about.
Speaker 3: We'll put the pads on next week on mix shots.
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