WEBVTT - #221 - OT The Real 0:00:00.040 --> 0:00:02.440 Fu leg Cap podcast. We have a special guest in here. 0:00:02.480 --> 0:00:06.200 My guys album just dropped. He just did that BET 0:00:06.360 --> 0:00:09.280 side for y'all saw it. Man, my friend. A lot 0:00:09.320 --> 0:00:12.840 of people think that we could be cousins, but we're 0:00:12.880 --> 0:00:15.400 indeed not related, not that I know of. Oh t 0:00:15.560 --> 0:00:19.680 the real what welcome, sir, welcome, it's good man. First 0:00:19.680 --> 0:00:22.840 of all, Man, things been moving. Congratulations on the BT. 0:00:23.000 --> 0:00:26.279 Look yeah man, big, big moves real great for me 0:00:26.320 --> 0:00:27.840 able to be part of that. How did that whole 0:00:27.880 --> 0:00:31.040 thing come about? Like I know you said, Snoop reposting 0:00:31.120 --> 0:00:33.199 your shit kind of helped with that, right, Yeah, you know, 0:00:33.760 --> 0:00:35.879 we believe, so you know what I'm saying. But you know, 0:00:35.960 --> 0:00:39.920 for the most part, we've just been consistently dropping videos 0:00:40.280 --> 0:00:43.680 and they've been getting placed on BT, shut Out, Breeze, 0:00:44.479 --> 0:00:48.120 connecting the bridges on that making everything connect and yeah, 0:00:48.360 --> 0:00:50.480 you know, they hit us up this year and said 0:00:50.479 --> 0:00:54.720 come on and here we are today. So for people 0:00:54.760 --> 0:00:56.640 who don't know, man, give me a little bit of 0:00:56.640 --> 0:00:58.200 your background, because I think a lot of people know 0:00:58.280 --> 0:00:59.920 you as like a Philly rapper, even though you're not 0:01:00.040 --> 0:01:04.800 necessarily from Philly. Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely, I'm from mass 0:01:04.959 --> 0:01:06.880 If you watch some of my other interviews, and shit, 0:01:07.720 --> 0:01:10.559 it goes real into like, you know, I left mass 0:01:10.600 --> 0:01:14.360 you know, part of my criminal life that I had 0:01:14.400 --> 0:01:16.800 when I was younger, and I ended up in Philly 0:01:16.800 --> 0:01:19.039 and that's when you know, I went to prison for 0:01:19.080 --> 0:01:20.920 a while. When I came home, that's when you know 0:01:20.959 --> 0:01:23.479 I started to push the music and uh, yeah, here 0:01:23.520 --> 0:01:26.560 we are. How how long were you in prison? Like 0:01:27.040 --> 0:01:30.360 five and a half. That's a serious bid, man. Some 0:01:30.480 --> 0:01:33.760 would say, uh being like you being a car So 0:01:33.800 --> 0:01:39.240 obviously there's like politics are different in all prisons everywhere California. 0:01:39.480 --> 0:01:42.959 I believe it's definitely different. Yeah. I think that the 0:01:43.000 --> 0:01:47.319 Peckerwoods and the South Siders are together, and then I 0:01:47.319 --> 0:01:51.000 think blacks and the others. And what is like when 0:01:51.040 --> 0:01:52.840 you were locked up? Because you obviously are a hip 0:01:52.880 --> 0:01:55.400 hop artist, you got flavored like do the whites stay 0:01:55.440 --> 0:01:57.000 with the whites in prison? Where you were at? Like, 0:01:57.040 --> 0:02:00.600 how was like your prison experience? Man? I remember when 0:02:00.600 --> 0:02:03.400 I was The first prison I was in was Boston. 0:02:03.400 --> 0:02:05.640 I've been in like six joints. The first joint I 0:02:05.720 --> 0:02:08.919 was in was was Massachusetts. Was what's the house? He 0:02:09.000 --> 0:02:13.000 was just saying, and in what's the house? I remember. 0:02:13.040 --> 0:02:16.200 I remember I was. I was seventeen getting tried as 0:02:16.200 --> 0:02:19.240 an adult, so I really have no business being in there. 0:02:19.280 --> 0:02:21.480 They just they figured they'd keep me for the last 0:02:21.520 --> 0:02:23.320 two months till I turned eighteen, so they put me. 0:02:23.600 --> 0:02:26.040 I was in population, but I was so young and 0:02:26.080 --> 0:02:28.960 so scrawny that nobody bothered me at all. They like, 0:02:29.040 --> 0:02:30.760 I looked like your kid. They were like, what the 0:02:30.760 --> 0:02:32.640 fuck are you doing here. I remember showing my papers 0:02:32.680 --> 0:02:35.360 to people and being like, no, look, I'm seventeen, and 0:02:35.400 --> 0:02:37.799 people would be like, yo, see how what the fuck Like, Yo, 0:02:38.280 --> 0:02:40.720 you need anything here? Man? They were like looking out 0:02:40.720 --> 0:02:42.280 for you. It was like that. That's how it was 0:02:42.480 --> 0:02:44.680 in what's the house where I landed at that time. 0:02:44.720 --> 0:02:47.280 It wasn't you know, whoever had it under control, It 0:02:47.320 --> 0:02:49.240 was under control. It was all right. But I remember 0:02:50.040 --> 0:02:52.679 two Irish kids came to my cell, older guys, and 0:02:52.720 --> 0:02:55.200 they were like, hey, Bud, you got your paperwork And 0:02:55.240 --> 0:02:56.919 I was like, what the fuck is that? You know 0:02:56.960 --> 0:02:58.800 what I mean, like all the paperwork from you getting 0:02:58.880 --> 0:03:01.440 rested and shit. So I was like, yeah, he said, look, 0:03:01.480 --> 0:03:04.480 you know, if you you know, if you got any 0:03:04.480 --> 0:03:06.400 problems or anything, you come see us. You know, what 0:03:06.400 --> 0:03:08.200 I'm saying for like a black dude or a Puerto 0:03:08.280 --> 0:03:09.840 Rican dude, or you go at it with one of them. 0:03:10.080 --> 0:03:11.520 You don't go at it with them. You just come 0:03:11.560 --> 0:03:14.320 see us and we'll go. And I wasn't having problems 0:03:14.360 --> 0:03:15.800 with no one, So I was like all right, you 0:03:15.800 --> 0:03:17.480 know what I mean. I was like looking at him, 0:03:17.520 --> 0:03:19.760 like the fuck. They're like, yeah, you're good, look at 0:03:19.800 --> 0:03:22.240 my paperwork, and left. So I seem like that there 0:03:22.280 --> 0:03:24.680 was some type of order, but you know, I didn't 0:03:24.680 --> 0:03:27.320 really you know, I had so much other shit going on. 0:03:27.360 --> 0:03:29.680 I couldn't really focus on it. But like and then 0:03:29.760 --> 0:03:33.480 I remember like hitting the Delaware prison, like the joints 0:03:33.520 --> 0:03:36.200 I was in Delaware, Like you weren't allowed to sleep. 0:03:37.040 --> 0:03:39.320 What I'm saying, like you couldn't sleep. I seen, I 0:03:39.360 --> 0:03:41.720 see some crazy shit down there in Delaware. It's nasty 0:03:41.760 --> 0:03:43.840 down there. You could you could do your time in 0:03:43.880 --> 0:03:46.440 the prison, or if your short time, you can choose 0:03:46.480 --> 0:03:50.840 to go across the parking lot to the VOP Center, 0:03:51.920 --> 0:03:55.120 you know, which is a punishment camp. So like there 0:03:55.160 --> 0:03:57.200 like boot camp, ta oh yoh, my man. They wake 0:03:57.240 --> 0:03:59.720 you up four am, five am, just reading last names. 0:03:59.720 --> 0:04:03.400 Put your boots on put your boots on, so that 0:04:03.440 --> 0:04:05.920 would like excel your settence. So yeah, it would like 0:04:05.960 --> 0:04:07.480 it would be like if you do a program in 0:04:07.560 --> 0:04:09.920 the in the VOP center, you know, it might be 0:04:10.000 --> 0:04:12.040 like six months less than your two years or something. 0:04:12.040 --> 0:04:14.520 So it was worth it. But you weren't allowed to sleep. 0:04:14.640 --> 0:04:17.479 Did you do that? You did the VOP. Yeah, but 0:04:17.560 --> 0:04:21.760 I had to do VOP because you know, I left 0:04:21.800 --> 0:04:24.000 Massachusetts on the run and I went to Delaware, and 0:04:24.080 --> 0:04:27.280 I remember I like served the undercover cop and Massachusetts 0:04:27.320 --> 0:04:30.120 wouldn't come get me, so Delaware put me on probation, 0:04:30.240 --> 0:04:33.000 and probation gets me and they're like, they're like, all right, 0:04:33.040 --> 0:04:35.880 you're nineteen. You never finished high school. Go back to 0:04:35.960 --> 0:04:38.800 high school. So they put me into high school up 0:04:38.800 --> 0:04:40.520 the street from the house that I was trapping out of. 0:04:40.560 --> 0:04:42.040 I had my own house, so I was going to 0:04:42.080 --> 0:04:45.440 school during the day to appease probation. So you're on 0:04:45.560 --> 0:04:48.640 probation trapping out of your own crib at nineteen, and 0:04:48.640 --> 0:04:50.960 then Friday night, Friday nights, I had to report to 0:04:51.000 --> 0:04:53.839 the VOP center and go to prison from Friday to Sunday, 0:04:54.120 --> 0:04:56.159 and I get out Sunday night and go back to school. 0:04:56.160 --> 0:04:58.880 Monday morning. So every every weekend they put me on 0:04:58.920 --> 0:05:01.039 a different pod because they wouldn't want me to go 0:05:01.080 --> 0:05:02.600 back to the same part and bring a pack, you 0:05:02.640 --> 0:05:04.800 know what saying, and bring a bomb in, right, So 0:05:04.960 --> 0:05:07.320 like people would be dying trying to get me to 0:05:07.360 --> 0:05:09.200 bring a bomb in, Like everybody be trying to know 0:05:09.360 --> 0:05:11.040 you're a weekend because they had to stay. They were 0:05:11.040 --> 0:05:12.800 all doing for people. Don't know what to a bond 0:05:13.120 --> 0:05:15.960 that's like drug yeah whatever, Yeah, you know that would 0:05:15.960 --> 0:05:18.640 be something to put up your I don't know about that, 0:05:18.720 --> 0:05:21.920 you know. I mean, I'm just scared. That's that's how 0:05:22.040 --> 0:05:24.000 some cast, some casts might do it. I don't know, 0:05:24.480 --> 0:05:26.240 you know, when you're coming in from the streets, you 0:05:26.279 --> 0:05:28.320 know what I'm saying. I almost got himmed up in 0:05:28.320 --> 0:05:30.679 a situation down there one time because of that, because 0:05:30.680 --> 0:05:32.520 you had something money and a bunch of week Me 0:05:32.560 --> 0:05:34.440 and a bunch of weekenders were all in the cell 0:05:34.480 --> 0:05:37.240 and they put us on the cell together, had us 0:05:37.279 --> 0:05:39.560 all stripping, like everybody take your shirts off, and I 0:05:39.600 --> 0:05:41.240 remember I like, I don't know what happened, but I 0:05:41.279 --> 0:05:44.440 heard something hit the ground like that. It wasn't you. 0:05:44.720 --> 0:05:47.000 It might have been, but I looked down and there 0:05:47.040 --> 0:05:49.120 and there was a bag and ship, and I was 0:05:49.200 --> 0:05:51.400 and I'm looking and like no one sees it where 0:05:51.520 --> 0:05:53.600 everyone's still getting undressed and ship. So I kind of 0:05:53.640 --> 0:05:57.440 step on it through the swipe wow, notices it. And 0:05:57.480 --> 0:05:59.440 then when they're cleaning it out, they're like, yo, hold 0:05:59.520 --> 0:06:01.400 on what is and all the other weekend to start 0:06:01.480 --> 0:06:03.880 ratting on me right away. They're like this fucking young 0:06:03.920 --> 0:06:05.680 prick because they're all you know, they're all you know, 0:06:06.000 --> 0:06:07.600 they had it with me. I'm going in this small 0:06:07.720 --> 0:06:10.720 like straight gas taking living a life. Yeah, like look 0:06:10.760 --> 0:06:12.880 at this fucking high school. I'm like a nineteen year 0:06:12.920 --> 0:06:16.880 old junior in high school. Jesus, It's like Billy Madison. Yeah, 0:06:16.960 --> 0:06:19.800 what a trapper. It was like it was something crazy. 0:06:19.800 --> 0:06:22.680 So like we kept getting I kept getting raided, and 0:06:22.800 --> 0:06:24.560 you know, there was nothing to do down there, you 0:06:24.600 --> 0:06:26.760 know what I'm saying. So I was I was hunted 0:06:26.760 --> 0:06:29.039 down there in Delaware. You know, I feel like sneaking 0:06:29.040 --> 0:06:32.359 a balloon of drugs inside of your orifices of any capacity, 0:06:32.360 --> 0:06:34.360 it's just dangerous because what if the bus opened, Like 0:06:34.440 --> 0:06:36.080 you ever know somebody, but not even that You're going 0:06:36.080 --> 0:06:38.159 in there with your sneakers though. I mean, I'm not 0:06:38.160 --> 0:06:39.719 even talk about you. I just mean like you always 0:06:39.720 --> 0:06:42.200 hear like like chicks will go visit dudes and like 0:06:42.240 --> 0:06:44.040 sneak shit inside of them, Like you know, I'm like, 0:06:44.080 --> 0:06:45.599 I wonder if that ever goes left, Like if the 0:06:45.600 --> 0:06:47.599 balloon pops open inside of a chick and then she 0:06:47.760 --> 0:06:51.080 fucking overdoses. She died. People all the time you heard 0:06:51.080 --> 0:06:53.320 of that. I got a homie who tried the stuff. 0:06:53.400 --> 0:06:55.599 Half a half ounce a crack in his ass and 0:06:55.640 --> 0:07:00.600 he died. Police serious and serious amount of crack to 0:07:00.600 --> 0:07:05.400 try to find your book. I'm just saying the amount 0:07:05.480 --> 0:07:09.920 of loop needed for that, that's two gay for sure. 0:07:10.000 --> 0:07:12.120 It probably just matters how many layers of bag or 0:07:12.160 --> 0:07:15.800 in between that, you know, because it's your body's acidic. 0:07:15.800 --> 0:07:17.320 You got acids in you. Yeah, it should be like 0:07:17.440 --> 0:07:19.040 you should at least it's like when you got to 0:07:19.040 --> 0:07:20.520 put it in a corner and like wrap it into 0:07:20.560 --> 0:07:22.760 another corner. Right, It's like if you vacuum seal a 0:07:22.800 --> 0:07:24.160 pack and put it in the mail, you should at 0:07:24.240 --> 0:07:26.600 least do it three times allegedly. I mean, you know, 0:07:26.640 --> 0:07:29.240 once you start, once that machine gets the buzzing, you 0:07:29.240 --> 0:07:30.520 know you might just do it. You just got to 0:07:30.560 --> 0:07:32.400 make sure you get you're good with the poke test. 0:07:32.440 --> 0:07:34.120 You know, I don't I wouldn't know anything about that, 0:07:34.160 --> 0:07:35.800 but I've heard. I don't know, but yeah, yeah that 0:07:35.880 --> 0:07:38.040 is so. Look, so you're nineteen years old, so just 0:07:38.080 --> 0:07:41.040 so we can rewind this because this is pretty crazy. 0:07:41.720 --> 0:07:44.920 So you get locked up at seventeen, you get out, Well, 0:07:45.000 --> 0:07:46.720 I turned eighteen in jail and I got on the 0:07:46.760 --> 0:07:49.360 ankle brace and I cut it off, so I slipped, 0:07:49.360 --> 0:07:51.200 So I was I've been on the run forever. Like, 0:07:51.320 --> 0:07:53.360 so you're on the run pretty much my whole life 0:07:53.440 --> 0:07:55.560 until I've just maxed out my prison sentence just now, 0:07:55.680 --> 0:07:58.280 like two years ago. I basically it's been like a 0:07:58.360 --> 0:08:01.800 niceade and a half. So you cut off your ankle 0:08:01.840 --> 0:08:04.440 bracelet at eighteen, you end up getting back into the 0:08:04.480 --> 0:08:06.800 system to the point where they make you go back 0:08:06.800 --> 0:08:09.320 to high school. Yeah, like they were like, Yo, Massachusetts 0:08:09.320 --> 0:08:11.360 won't extradite you. They're not they won't pay to get 0:08:11.400 --> 0:08:13.480 you extradited, So we're not going to hold you on 0:08:13.560 --> 0:08:16.080 that case. This is in Delaware. Yeah, so Delaware is like, 0:08:16.080 --> 0:08:17.640 we're just going to charge you with your case is here. 0:08:17.680 --> 0:08:19.120 We're just gonna make sure you go back to school. 0:08:19.200 --> 0:08:21.920 And then and I got raided down there again, and 0:08:21.960 --> 0:08:24.600 I bailed out before probation could put the detainer on me, 0:08:24.800 --> 0:08:27.200 and I ran, I left Delaware. So now I'm twenty 0:08:27.840 --> 0:08:30.760 and I'm in Philly. What I'm saying so for a 0:08:30.800 --> 0:08:33.760 certain I just you're a nineteen year old junior in 0:08:33.840 --> 0:08:39.560 high school Monday through Friday. My birthday. Man, it's your 0:08:39.600 --> 0:08:41.839 birthday and birthday. Hey, think about it. How many years 0:08:41.880 --> 0:08:45.760 ago were you in prison celebrating this day. There's some 0:08:46.080 --> 0:08:51.560 ashtrays and some lighters. Yeah, of course I would smoke 0:08:51.640 --> 0:08:53.520 with you, my man. Yeah, yeah, please do This thing 0:08:53.600 --> 0:08:56.600 might have clipped up my part, but if not, I 0:08:56.600 --> 0:08:58.319 got a box of drugs right there on top of 0:08:58.360 --> 0:09:02.120 the mortar kombat. So so yeah, you know, wait wait wait, 0:09:02.160 --> 0:09:06.080 So look you're nineteen. You're a nineteen year old junior 0:09:06.080 --> 0:09:08.200 in high school with his own house. Like ten, you're 0:09:08.240 --> 0:09:09.680 from the school. Okay, so you have your own house 0:09:09.760 --> 0:09:11.560 right next to the school that they're forcing you to 0:09:11.559 --> 0:09:14.200 go to. So the their officer, the their officers like 0:09:14.559 --> 0:09:16.560 stops me one day and he's like yo, He's like, 0:09:16.600 --> 0:09:18.520 I know what goes on at that house down the street. 0:09:18.679 --> 0:09:21.160 He's like, don't bring that ship in this school. And 0:09:21.480 --> 0:09:23.760 I'm just like, all right, right, I gonna argue with you. 0:09:24.000 --> 0:09:26.240 Was a young kid. So your your daily schedule, though, 0:09:26.360 --> 0:09:29.600 was going to school at night, You're doing your thing, 0:09:29.600 --> 0:09:31.880 you're getting your money, and then on the weekend you're 0:09:31.920 --> 0:09:34.120 going to this camp. I'm going to jail. Oh you're 0:09:34.120 --> 0:09:36.040 going to jail on the week straight prisons and that's 0:09:36.080 --> 0:09:38.560 not the VOP thing. No, the VP is the prison. 0:09:38.600 --> 0:09:40.840 So you're going to but you're doing the VOP program 0:09:40.840 --> 0:09:43.120 on the weekend. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yop shit. I'm getting 0:09:43.160 --> 0:09:46.320 out Sunday night. So I had like one weekend, one 0:09:46.320 --> 0:09:48.439 weekend left. It was on my second to last weekend, 0:09:49.040 --> 0:09:52.280 and that ship hit the floor and them cats are like, oh, 0:09:52.960 --> 0:09:55.440 that's hiss. He comes in here. Is that when you jetted? 0:09:55.679 --> 0:09:59.640 So no, no, So I'm in the fucking prison, fucking balls, naked, 0:09:59.679 --> 0:10:02.320 fucking getting accused of the drugs on the floor. They says, mind. 0:10:03.160 --> 0:10:04.880 I'm like that ain't fucking mind. They're like, who's this? 0:10:05.040 --> 0:10:06.760 I don't fucking know. But they can't prove it at 0:10:06.800 --> 0:10:08.600 that point. So then they're like look and they point 0:10:08.679 --> 0:10:11.400 there's a fucking camera. So I'm like, damn. So now 0:10:11.440 --> 0:10:14.120 I'm like, it ain't mine. Double down, you know what 0:10:14.120 --> 0:10:16.360 I'm saying, Fuck you ain't mind. Still I don't care 0:10:16.360 --> 0:10:19.679 what the camera says. I'm doubled down. And uh, you know, 0:10:19.720 --> 0:10:22.000 I was young. So Sunday night came and they read 0:10:22.000 --> 0:10:23.680 all the weekend his names to leave and they ain't 0:10:23.679 --> 0:10:28.360 read mine. So I'm like, yo, see yo one, that's 0:10:28.360 --> 0:10:32.079 school Tomorrowgo the fuck back to your rap man. What 0:10:32.400 --> 0:10:34.040 are you talking about? Man? They said you ain't you 0:10:34.040 --> 0:10:35.880 ain't going home. You're like, you're the one who brought 0:10:35.880 --> 0:10:39.560 the dope in. Everything's dope to them. Delaware is the South. 0:10:40.080 --> 0:10:42.840 It's the beginning of the South. What I'm saying, Once 0:10:42.880 --> 0:10:44.920 you hit Delaware, you're in the South. It's different than 0:10:44.920 --> 0:10:48.320 being in Pennsylvania. It's a whole different culture, I'm telling you, man, 0:10:48.360 --> 0:10:50.600 Like even the music motherfuckers was listening to, like Mike 0:10:50.679 --> 0:10:54.000 Jones and shipped down there, down there. Not nothing against them, 0:10:54.280 --> 0:10:56.000 Nothing against Mike Jones. I can use a couple of 0:10:56.040 --> 0:10:58.680 singles too. But I'm saying, like, you know, like there's 0:10:58.720 --> 0:11:06.839 a different vibe down there, and hold on happy birthday. Hey, 0:11:06.920 --> 0:11:09.439 this is this guy his birthday right here. Man, it's 0:11:09.440 --> 0:11:12.439 the hell of a birthday. Man. Bulet keV said, fly up, 0:11:13.000 --> 0:11:18.760 but uh where was I fuck it? You said that? Uh? 0:11:19.280 --> 0:11:23.080 They said you're staying. Oh yes, they said you're staying. 0:11:24.800 --> 0:11:27.040 So the next morning comes and they bring me out 0:11:27.640 --> 0:11:30.920 in front of a video court judge and I'm just like, 0:11:31.000 --> 0:11:34.760 y'all gotta double dere like, listen six month program starting today, 0:11:35.760 --> 0:11:37.800 or you could go catch this three piece for bringing 0:11:37.840 --> 0:11:41.680 drugs into jail. I'm like, nope, not nope, fuck that 0:11:41.960 --> 0:11:44.480 not mine. Nope, not mine. They're like, we got you 0:11:44.520 --> 0:11:46.280 on camera. I'm like, I want to see the camera. 0:11:46.320 --> 0:11:47.400 They said, well, we don't got to show it to 0:11:47.400 --> 0:11:48.760 you till we show it to the judge. You see 0:11:48.800 --> 0:11:51.040 it at the same time. So I was like, damn. 0:11:51.080 --> 0:11:54.080 So I remember calling home telling my mom and she's like, oh, 0:11:54.120 --> 0:11:55.600 you got to take the deal. But I know they're 0:11:55.600 --> 0:11:58.520 listening in Delaware. Is nasty. So I'm like, now I'm 0:11:58.520 --> 0:12:00.199 not taking the deal. Mom. I'm innocent, you know what 0:12:00.200 --> 0:12:01.839 I'm saying, because I know that this is all part 0:12:01.880 --> 0:12:03.440 of it and you probably can't get in trouble for 0:12:03.520 --> 0:12:06.000 kicking it. Yeah, kicking it under the bed or whatever. 0:12:06.040 --> 0:12:09.040 You know what I'm saying. Plausible deniability has gotten me 0:12:09.080 --> 0:12:11.120 out of some jams, what I'm saying, so you know 0:12:11.240 --> 0:12:14.160 they got approved. I'm saying nothing right, that shit ain't mine, 0:12:14.160 --> 0:12:15.760 you know what I'm saying. So they put me in 0:12:15.760 --> 0:12:17.560 front of the judge, and the judge is like on 0:12:17.559 --> 0:12:19.679 the screen, he asked the CEO, because the CEO is 0:12:19.720 --> 0:12:21.880 like acting like the fucking prosecute this shit is like 0:12:21.960 --> 0:12:25.199 fucking small town shit going on here, guys over my shoulder, 0:12:25.280 --> 0:12:29.080 like you're on it. We don't actually have those cameras recording. 0:12:30.200 --> 0:12:32.800 They're just there for monit's right. Probably. The judge is like, yo, 0:12:32.920 --> 0:12:34.520 let him go right now and get him back. I 0:12:34.520 --> 0:12:36.480 want him back in school by this afternoon. They let 0:12:36.520 --> 0:12:42.240 me back out. That's amazing. Went on a run. So 0:12:42.320 --> 0:12:44.800 you you were on the run for a how many 0:12:44.880 --> 0:12:46.520 years were you say that you were just kind of 0:12:47.080 --> 0:12:51.280 ducking the law before it caught up to you, from 0:12:51.320 --> 0:12:57.240 like two thousand and two to two thousand until till 0:12:57.280 --> 0:13:00.200 I went to prison in twenty ten, twenty eleven, and 0:13:00.240 --> 0:13:01.880 then and you say you were in for five and 0:13:01.920 --> 0:13:03.880 a half five and a half there. Yeah, So so 0:13:04.200 --> 0:13:05.920 it was on the run and then I got out 0:13:06.120 --> 0:13:08.560 and was on parole, so I was. I didn't max 0:13:08.600 --> 0:13:10.480 that out for another four years after that, so it 0:13:10.520 --> 0:13:14.240 was almost a twenty year run. Like well for people 0:13:14.240 --> 0:13:17.319 wh don't understand too, is like when you're on parole 0:13:17.400 --> 0:13:20.200 like that, it's almost like as close to being in 0:13:20.240 --> 0:13:22.000 prison as I mean. I don't know how your parole was. 0:13:22.040 --> 0:13:25.520 I guess everyone's Philly, Philly sweet. Like I suggest anybody 0:13:25.960 --> 0:13:28.400 who's on parole in like Jersey or something like that. 0:13:29.160 --> 0:13:32.480 Everybody's killing everybody in Philly, right, So like if you 0:13:32.480 --> 0:13:34.640 don't get caught shooting a gun at somebody, you know 0:13:35.800 --> 0:13:38.120 you're not going to just like like I would suggest 0:13:38.200 --> 0:13:41.040 you relocate to Philly if you put your if you 0:13:41.040 --> 0:13:43.360 put it, if you put your parole in Philly, they 0:13:43.360 --> 0:13:46.280 don't got time to come see you. Oh that's it. 0:13:46.320 --> 0:13:49.360 They don't got time, yo. So what was it that 0:13:49.480 --> 0:13:52.280 ended up happening where everything actually ended up catching up 0:13:52.280 --> 0:13:53.880 to you? Because I've got some friends that were on 0:13:53.960 --> 0:13:57.559 similar I got both in Philly. After you know, I 0:13:58.080 --> 0:14:03.800 landed in Philly, like oh seven, I found like fish Town, Kensington, 0:14:05.080 --> 0:14:07.320 built my little team up, had a little run to 0:14:07.440 --> 0:14:13.000 like twenty ten, got booked, got caught on someone else's shit, 0:14:13.160 --> 0:14:17.520 someone else's bullshit. I got pulled in, got grabbed, and 0:14:17.920 --> 0:14:22.360 people were telling they offered me a four to eight. 0:14:22.880 --> 0:14:25.800 I tapped real quick, because you know, I was over 0:14:25.840 --> 0:14:28.400 one hundred grams. Over one hundred grams for a convicted 0:14:28.400 --> 0:14:30.400 felon at the time was a mandatory seven and a 0:14:30.400 --> 0:14:32.920 half to fifteen. But the seven and a half and 0:14:32.960 --> 0:14:34.920 fifteen can be a back number. It doesn't got to 0:14:34.920 --> 0:14:36.640 be your front number. So you could get a four 0:14:36.680 --> 0:14:38.440 to eight and that falls in that seven and a 0:14:38.480 --> 0:14:40.920 half to fifteen. So I took the sweetest deal that 0:14:40.960 --> 0:14:44.840 they offered right away. When I went upstate, Delaware put 0:14:44.840 --> 0:14:47.320 a detainer on me, I said, what do you guys want? 0:14:47.360 --> 0:14:49.560 They said two and a half years plus the felling 0:14:49.600 --> 0:14:51.440 and conviction. I'm like, well, you running right now? They 0:14:51.480 --> 0:14:54.200 said yeah. I said boom. So I was like, no 0:14:54.680 --> 0:14:57.400 felling convictions, just adding no, the Massachusetts hits me up. 0:14:57.840 --> 0:15:00.200 Massachusetts tried to get it and we've been looking for him. Well, 0:15:00.240 --> 0:15:02.640 they put a detainer on me right away, and I 0:15:03.720 --> 0:15:05.760 got in the listen. I got in the dog program 0:15:06.080 --> 0:15:07.840 and in the jail I was at and people have 0:15:07.920 --> 0:15:10.160 a pet. Yeah, me and me and one one other 0:15:10.200 --> 0:15:12.400 dude were in a building where a bunch of dudes 0:15:12.400 --> 0:15:14.320 had like rooms like this size, but there was a 0:15:14.320 --> 0:15:16.720 crate for a dog. And you got these fucked up 0:15:16.760 --> 0:15:19.240 dogs and like you groom them and like walk them 0:15:19.240 --> 0:15:21.520 and if they'd get adopted after So it made you 0:15:21.560 --> 0:15:22.960 look good for when you saw the board and you 0:15:23.000 --> 0:15:24.400 were doing good. You know. It's like and you had 0:15:24.400 --> 0:15:25.920 a little friends and you had a fucking dog and 0:15:25.960 --> 0:15:27.720 you could go outside on the compound at any time 0:15:27.760 --> 0:15:29.520 and walk to any block because your dog had to 0:15:29.560 --> 0:15:31.120 piss and you were just walking around. So there's a 0:15:31.160 --> 0:15:33.440 lot of Yeah, it was a good jobs. People would 0:15:33.480 --> 0:15:35.840 hate on that show. You in the Dog Program, I'm like, fuck, 0:15:36.520 --> 0:15:39.080 you would take the dog too. How many dogs did 0:15:39.120 --> 0:15:41.880 you have? Well? Actually I didn't do good in the 0:15:41.880 --> 0:15:46.000 Dog Program really, but you know my dog died. That's 0:15:46.000 --> 0:15:50.440 where that's what my dog died. You know. That's where 0:15:50.520 --> 0:15:52.360 like work ethic came in and shipped to where it 0:15:52.440 --> 0:15:55.360 was like I had like weight room and football games 0:15:55.400 --> 0:15:57.520 coming up and playing all these sports like you're playing 0:15:57.520 --> 0:16:00.600 football in prison. I played every sports that ball, ball man. 0:16:01.200 --> 0:16:09.440 How's so you're walking dogs. That's not going well, because 0:16:09.480 --> 0:16:11.320 you know it wasn't that you gotta they gotta sign 0:16:11.360 --> 0:16:13.160 out sheet on the wall every time you take the 0:16:13.160 --> 0:16:15.600 dog out to walk them. And this broad was running 0:16:15.600 --> 0:16:17.880 the programs like, you know, you're not bringing the dog 0:16:17.880 --> 0:16:19.720 out of there, you know, fucking and you're not taking 0:16:19.760 --> 0:16:22.040 them out for long enough periods of time. And after 0:16:22.040 --> 0:16:23.960 a while, I was like, listen, fucking cunt, I said, 0:16:23.960 --> 0:16:26.080 I'm trying to make fucking parole and go home and 0:16:26.280 --> 0:16:29.240 fucking live. I love the dogs, but like the dog, 0:16:29.320 --> 0:16:31.880 don't gotta go out nine times a day. The fucking 0:16:31.920 --> 0:16:33.880 dogs getting adopted and sitting in a cage while the 0:16:33.920 --> 0:16:39.920 people go to work. You got me, listen, bitch, I 0:16:39.920 --> 0:16:42.440 gotta game. I gotta game, Tom, you know what I mean. 0:16:43.160 --> 0:16:47.680 So you know, you know this is what happened. Okay, 0:16:47.720 --> 0:16:51.440 go ahead, go ahead. So so they let you take 0:16:51.440 --> 0:16:55.680 a picture with the dog. Fucked up, they let me 0:16:55.680 --> 0:16:57.640 take Let me put this down. They let me take 0:16:57.640 --> 0:17:00.560 a picture with the dog. Right, So I got a 0:17:00.560 --> 0:17:04.400 court date coming up in Massachusetts. Right, so I send 0:17:04.440 --> 0:17:07.200 the pictures of the dog to my mom. My mom 0:17:07.280 --> 0:17:10.119 goes on my behalf to Massachusetts. Right, We're we're just 0:17:10.119 --> 0:17:12.399 trying to get up, We're trying to plead guilty. So 0:17:12.400 --> 0:17:15.560 they start running the time while because the pia four 0:17:15.600 --> 0:17:17.800 and a half years going the other time is gonna 0:17:17.800 --> 0:17:21.680 get eaten up. So they're like, oh, the dude who 0:17:22.080 --> 0:17:25.399 was ahead of probation at the time was fucking working 0:17:25.400 --> 0:17:27.920 with adopting dogs at the Patriots games. He was putting 0:17:27.920 --> 0:17:29.879 the dog adopted dogs up on the screen at the 0:17:29.920 --> 0:17:32.159 Patriots game. So my mother holds the picture off of 0:17:32.240 --> 0:17:34.800 me fucking the dog in court. I guess they you know, 0:17:35.000 --> 0:17:36.560 talk and they're like, yeah, we'll give them, you know. 0:17:36.600 --> 0:17:39.000 I think it was another two years. Dogs saved you 0:17:39.080 --> 0:17:44.879 some time. Shout out another felony conviction adding up against me. 0:17:44.920 --> 0:17:46.600 But I was getting out of ship though, so I was, 0:17:46.640 --> 0:17:48.720 you know, shout out to the shout out to the dog. 0:17:48.720 --> 0:17:53.480 I think his name was Boozer. Boozer like Carlos, Yeah, overrated. 0:17:54.160 --> 0:17:55.879 He was a hound. He used to be like like 0:17:56.240 --> 0:17:59.920 like hound Howling and the Cells. It was crazy. Bro 0:18:00.800 --> 0:18:02.639 back to the football. How do you divvy up a 0:18:02.640 --> 0:18:06.440 football team? And because football draft draft, so you got 0:18:06.480 --> 0:18:08.720 to sign up a bunch of people sign up to 0:18:08.760 --> 0:18:12.119 be coaches. Every coach gets to freeze one player. So 0:18:12.160 --> 0:18:14.119 you got people going all over the jail trying to 0:18:14.160 --> 0:18:16.800 like buy buy a player to freeze with them Jesus. 0:18:16.920 --> 0:18:18.639