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Speaker 1: And That's what You Really Missed with Jenna.

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Speaker 2: And Kevin an iHeartRadio podcast.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to and That's What You Really miss Podcast. Today,

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Speaker 1: we have a very special episode Stacked. It's so interesting

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Speaker 1: because these two guests that we have were so integral

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Speaker 1: and so prominent in our experience, yet so far, so

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Speaker 1: distant and far away from our experience as well. Today

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Speaker 1: we have two amazing session singers who were guide singers

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Speaker 1: for the lead vocals and also are all of the

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Speaker 1: vocals that you hear in all of our songs, all

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Speaker 1: the backgrounds, any background any ooh, any ah, any da,

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Speaker 1: any anything that's them.

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Speaker 2: There are some of the most incredibly talented, gifted people

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Speaker 2: on the planet. There's a whole team of them that

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Speaker 2: worked on the show throughout the years. These are just

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Speaker 2: to I mean, the amount of people who worked on

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Speaker 2: the show and shared their like talents in this way

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Speaker 2: is like unfathomable almost, And I'm just so excited to

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Speaker 2: get into some of the specifics and show you guys

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Speaker 2: what it takes to, you know, do this part of

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Speaker 2: making Glee and just how they're so so good and

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Speaker 2: I can't believe we got this many talented people, you know,

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Speaker 2: singers to work on the show in this way. So

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Speaker 2: first up, we have the incredible Nikki leanti By.

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Speaker 1: Hello, everybody, thank you so much for doing this. We're

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Speaker 1: so excited to talk with you.

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Speaker 3: I'm excited.

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Speaker 4: I was already just kind of looking through some files

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Speaker 4: and peeking through that time in my life and.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, that was so great. It was such

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Speaker 3: a great time.

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Speaker 1: No, truly, I can't wait to hear about it, because, like,

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Speaker 1: I feel like you guys were living a totally different

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Speaker 1: Glee life than we were. So can you first just

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Speaker 1: tell us like who you are and like how you

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Speaker 1: kind of got into the industry and what your career

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Speaker 1: has looked like.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely.

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Speaker 4: So I signed a record deal when I was thirteen

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Speaker 4: years old, and I was in the like gospel world,

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Speaker 4: touring all over the world, doing that till I was eighteen,

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Speaker 4: and so I was a Christian singer on the radio

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Speaker 4: who got pregnant as a teenager. And so you can't

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Speaker 4: you can't really do that. They took my songs off

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Speaker 4: the radio and off my records off the shelfs I'm like,

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Speaker 4: the whole thing. So that's how I got into session

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Speaker 4: singing is because I lost all my work and I

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Speaker 4: didn't know what I was going to do. And so

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Speaker 4: I started singing in Nashville for different country singers, and

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Speaker 4: I toured with Carrie Underwood for a couple of years

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Speaker 4: as her background.

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Speaker 3: Singer, and then that led me to LA.

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Speaker 4: I signed a record deal with Warner Brothers at that

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Speaker 4: point with a group I had called Nikki and Rich

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Speaker 4: and I thought that was gonna be like the redeeming

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Speaker 4: choice that you know, makes everything okay. And we were

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Speaker 4: on all the late night shows and Ellen and they're like,

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Speaker 4: new management came into Warner Brothers and took over, and

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Speaker 4: then about fifty percent of the roster got dropped.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god.

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Speaker 4: And so that leads me to Tim Davis, who while

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Speaker 4: I was in I was living in West Hollywood. He

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Speaker 4: calls me up, is like, hey, I know you know

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Speaker 4: you're going through a lot. You lost your record deal.

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Speaker 3: Will you sing? Can you sing in Spanish?

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Speaker 4: And I was like, I have sing in Spanish because well,

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Speaker 4: you know, I'd already done something.

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Speaker 3: I already did say a little prayer for you for.

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Speaker 4: One of the episodes like this, in particular, this is

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Speaker 4: a Lady Gaga song Americano and will you come in

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Speaker 4: And I said yes, yes, see see I.

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Speaker 4: And I knew that I knew from the singers that

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Speaker 4: And so I'm like, well, I need to go nail

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Speaker 2: Right, Well, there's no way you wouldn't nail it. Also, like,

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Speaker 2: And I feel like you guys, the people who could

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Speaker 2: every different genre right Like we're only seeinginging to what

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Speaker 1: These are terrifying guys, you're like, okay.

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Speaker 2: Because anyone who knows, like if you, like you were

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Speaker 2: on tour with Carrie Underwood, like the background singers are

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Speaker 2: so much is asked of you and you either can

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 4: And I will say not on behalf of me, but

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Speaker 4: on all the singers that did these.

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Speaker 3: Songs on Glee. I agree with you.

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Speaker 4: It's really hard and even like you know, singing with

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Speaker 4: It like you have to have like major versatility and chops.

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Speaker 4: But it also makes it very hard for a session

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Speaker 4: because you're being paid to Hey, I want you to

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Speaker 3: Doing that too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.

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Speaker 1: So can you tell us, like what the process is

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Speaker 1: like Americana? You know, you go in, do you learn

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Speaker 4: Okay, Well, most of the songs that I did for Glee,

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Speaker 4: a lot of them'd walk in and they're like, this

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Speaker 4: You never knew, you know, And so it was all

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Speaker 4: And other days we'd walk in I remember, I think

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Speaker 4: this background part, and like they're like, you get to

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Speaker 3: Hour workday this week. That's that's life. Paying you back,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and then would they tell you like who you were,

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Speaker 1: whose guide you were, like which character did you learn?

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Speaker 4: Working today, singing really hard today and you know, yeah,

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Speaker 4: Marlee Marley's character and even some of the guest actresses

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Speaker 4: and even towards the end Sue Sylvester's you know, her character,

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Speaker 3: And I have a voice that can go older as well.

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Speaker 4: Wow.

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Speaker 3: And you know Adam anders had he did a show,

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Speaker 2: You know she has the range, she has the range. Wow. Wow,

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Speaker 2: when you were doing when you were going into record

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Speaker 4: Your character too, you kind of get into that role

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Speaker 3: So you kind of start learning what each person needs

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Speaker 4: Tim did so much and his brother alex Anders did

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Speaker 3: He exactly what he wanted and so did Tim.

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Speaker 4: So it was all just like a really great experience.

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Speaker 2: How much time did you get to do these things?

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Speaker 2: Luke or somebody, I started getting like videos like how

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Speaker 1: Stop.

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00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:33,680
Speaker 3: You know, I'm serious, I said, Nikki, go home.

446
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:36,680
Speaker 2: I'm good.

447
00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:39,640
Speaker 1: I'm good, I'm here, I'm here.

448
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:45,040
Speaker 6: Needs this exactly, exactly want to miss it?

449
00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:50,159
Speaker 1: I got it. Before we let you go, I have

450
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,920
Speaker 1: a question for you. We have a question for you.

451
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:58,200
Speaker 1: What is the feeling that Glee leaves you with your experience?

452
00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:04,040
Speaker 4: It's in my career is so crazy, like we said,

453
00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:06,359
Speaker 4: and diverse and wild.

454
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:11,439
Speaker 3: It was such a special time for me.

455
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:15,639
Speaker 4: I think it was we had our own group of

456
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:19,480
Speaker 4: people and friendships that were happening behind the scenes. That

457
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:23,760
Speaker 4: was just such a big deal. Seeing the show take

458
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:28,639
Speaker 4: off and be this It changed TV at the time,

459
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:31,399
Speaker 4: you know, it changed everything. Like it we were a

460
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:39,320
Speaker 4: part of this growing, expanding, exploding situation that made us

461
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:44,040
Speaker 4: all excited of like these opportunities and the possibilities and

462
00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:46,720
Speaker 4: what that was like. We were experiencing that in the

463
00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:50,919
Speaker 4: background too, as you guys were the faces and voices

464
00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 4: of this. We got to experience some of that excitement

465
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:58,159
Speaker 4: and it's something I'll never forget. It was like, you know,

466
00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:01,800
Speaker 4: your your high school or college experience. You know, you

467
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 4: go back and you have these friends, and we had

468
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 4: our final day where we're singing the big anthem.

469
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 3: You know, no one's going to see us doing.

470
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:15,160
Speaker 4: That in this room, but we're swaying like we're graduating

471
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 4: and having this our own, you know, goodbye moment of

472
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:21,920
Speaker 4: something that changed.

473
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:24,760
Speaker 3: All of our lives. It really did. As singers. It

474
00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 3: changed us. It was special.

475
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:30,480
Speaker 4: And you know, even though we were a little distanced

476
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:34,160
Speaker 4: from you guys, all of what you guys went through

477
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,840
Speaker 4: affected us, and all of the things during the show

478
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:40,600
Speaker 4: affected us behind the scenes and our hearts. Our hearts

479
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:44,719
Speaker 4: were always interconnected with the process, even though we were

480
00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:47,840
Speaker 4: all doing it in separate spaces. It was a real

481
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:49,400
Speaker 4: like family experience.

482
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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you are just like the most talented person

483
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:58,440
Speaker 2: on the planet. Thank you for spending time with us

484
00:26:58,640 --> 00:26:59,720
Speaker 2: sharing your experience.

485
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:01,200
Speaker 1: It was so nice to.

486
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:04,200
Speaker 3: Hear I love this. I was like, I wonder where

487
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:07,440
Speaker 3: this is going to go? So many I was thinking.

488
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 4: I was like, do you have any crazy stories? And

489
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 4: I was like, the only one I could think of

490
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:14,480
Speaker 4: is when I accidentally got a Frank Ocean song taken

491
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:17,280
Speaker 4: off of the Glee. But it would have happened anyway.

492
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 2: Wait what I was in the.

493
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:25,040
Speaker 4: My old managers managed Frank Ocean, and I was sitting

494
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,359
Speaker 4: in the booths getting ready to sing one of his

495
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 4: big songs.

496
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 3: What was a beautiful song unrequired Loves.

497
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,920
Speaker 2: Easy Religion, bad Religion.

498
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 4: I was singing that and it was like a really

499
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:42,199
Speaker 4: intricate song and like a couple of lines in and

500
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 4: I'm texting his manager, who's like was one of my

501
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,840
Speaker 4: good friends, Like, I'm so excited of doing a Frank

502
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:51,119
Speaker 4: Ocean song today, And she said, what the hell you know?

503
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:58,360
Speaker 3: And so and like within five minutes, Nikki, you're done

504
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 3: for the day. That the man that had just reached

505
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:02,720
Speaker 3: out that they didn't clear this.

506
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 7: Song or whatever.

507
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 3: They never knew that happened. Adam doesn't know that happened.

508
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:12,880
Speaker 3: But we're far enough out that.

509
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 2: I ye, it would have happened anyway anyway. That was

510
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 2: ever gonna.

511
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 6: Clear just saved you some time. You know what, I

512
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:27,439
Speaker 6: do remember that being in the script. I completely forgot

513
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,479
Speaker 6: about that, and I remember being so upset that I

514
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 6: wasn't singing it. It's such a good he's my favorite.

515
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I love that song.

516
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 3: I was so excited.

517
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 2: That was funny.

518
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 1: That's really funny.

519
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 2: That's hilarious.

520
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 3: Wow, like Nikki get out.

521
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 4: I'm like, well, I still get paid because I sang

522
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 4: two lines on the literally it's sag it's union.

523
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 2: Oh that's wild.

524
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. Well, thank you so much for taking

525
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 1: the time to chat with us. Really we appreciate it.

526
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 1: And it was so good to see your face and

527
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 1: like she's just so chalented. Good luck with everything.

528
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:13,240
Speaker 3: Thank you all so much.

529
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 1: Well, well, well some tea right there.

530
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,480
Speaker 2: The things I would have done to get Frank Ocean's

531
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 2: music on the show so upset.

532
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 1: I know, I remember. I vaguely remember this because you

533
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 1: were very excited.

534
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 2: I'm also being surprised that it was happening, but it didn't.

535
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:35,720
Speaker 1: Right, Maybe you were surprised because you were surprised that

536
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 1: was happening and then it didn't happen, because.

537
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was short lived. But I love Nikki like

538
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 2: also like saying for so many different people on the show,

539
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 2: it's crazy. I love that she loved doing the musical

540
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 2: theater songs. I know, the most challenging for her was

541
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 2: the most fun. Yeah, you can just tell she's a sponge.

542
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 7: Like.

543
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 2: The things she can do with her voice.

544
00:29:56,480 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 1: Is just I mean, these people were special creatures and

545
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 1: their skill set is special creature. Yeah, thank you, Nikki, Yeah,

546
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:17,720
Speaker 1: thank you Nikki. We have the one and only Luke

547
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 1: Edgemond who did my guide vocals for like half the show,

548
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 1: and he's one of the best singers I've ever heard

549
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 1: in my entire life.

550
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 2: And here he is, Luke.

551
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 7: Wa hell, this is wild.

552
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:46,320
Speaker 2: How are you.

553
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 5: I'm good. It's so good to see you.

554
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 2: Guys, It's so good to see you. I hate you

555
00:30:54,240 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 2: because you are so stupidly gifted. To be on the

556
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 2: receiving end of one of your demos is cruel. It's

557
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 2: so mean because it really lets you know that you

558
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 2: are never going to be good enough.

559
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,239
Speaker 5: I appreciate that, but you too, right.

560
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 2: No, No, I am not full of shit. You are

561
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 2: so good that Okay, so Luke would do at some

562
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 2: point I don't remember what season it happened. Do you

563
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 2: remember what season happened?

564
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 5: I think it was for oddly.

565
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 2: Because I got comfy.

566
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 5: You know.

567
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 2: It's like I had like two or three rotating like

568
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 2: demo singers, all very very good. Sure, and then Luke

569
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 2: comes in right it starts running like it's a marathon,

570
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 2: and like doing all these you'll hear like if anyone

571
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 2: you know has really paid attention to like I guess

572
00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 2: what Artie is singing. It's changes like quite dramatically, and

573
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 2: I just I'm so thankful for you. I will back

574
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 2: it up because I could go on like this senior

575
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 2: prises all day. But Luke, how did this all like

576
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 2: happen for you? How did this start?

577
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 5: It's wild because I met a few people from like Adamanders,

578
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 5: Tim Davis just through moving to La trying to hit it,

579
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 5: and they were like, you have to sing on the show.

580
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 5: But unfortunately it's like already in the game. The continuity

581
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 5: is really intense, and so they have guide vocalists who

582
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 5: are assigned to the actors and we've already got basically

583
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 5: everybody assigned, but like, we really want you to be

584
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 5: a part of it, and I'm just thinking, oh, whatever

585
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 5: you want. And that was in season two and they

586
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:51,479
Speaker 5: were putting the Warblers together and so they were like,

587
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 5: we're just gonna get you in front of Brian any

588
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 5: way we can, so just can you step touch? And

589
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 5: I was like fuckh like I can't. I can'tnot like no, no,

590
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 5: no no, Like you have me, you have me gunning

591
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 5: for the person who sits down to sing for the

592
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:12,479
Speaker 5: right reason, Like I'm like super scared, like not not

593
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 5: part yes, And Tim was like you have to do

594
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 5: this because this is going to be your end, and

595
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 5: I just I have a feeling. So I did a

596
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 5: few episodes and then they did the Britney two point

597
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 5: zero episode and I do the backgrounds on the boyfriend

598
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 5: song Think, and then after that I was just in.

599
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 5: I had to. Like the Warblers were getting weirdly.

600
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 8: Like like they were getting hired to appear places like

601
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 8: off the show and ship like it was so odd

602
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 8: and I was like this makes me.

603
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 5: I don't know, it really made me uncomfortable, but it

604
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 5: just super weird and like we were going places in

605
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 5: the jackets and like walking carpets and I was like

606
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 5: this is not like I want to sing, Like I

607
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 5: have no idea what And so thankfully they were like

608
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 5: one day they needed to book a guide vocal and

609
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 5: a warbler taping and I was like, no, please take

610
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:22,279
Speaker 5: me to the thing inside, and so they replaced me

611
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:26,920
Speaker 5: and that was the take for that song and somebody

612
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:29,240
Speaker 5: else did your guide vocal? Shout out to Jerid Scott,

613
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:33,839
Speaker 5: so yeah, like so good. But then after that I

614
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 5: was just in and basically never left and like was

615
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:38,440
Speaker 5: hitched to the wagon.

616
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 2: You change my life.

617
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 1: Kevin would get these guys. We would get these guides,

618
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 1: and Kevin's jaw would be on the ground and he said,

619
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 1: I'm texting Luke.

620
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 2: Because the first few times I didn't have his number,

621
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,399
Speaker 2: I didn't know who he was. And I'm like, first

622
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:54,960
Speaker 2: of all, this is a new person, and why do

623
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 2: they think I'm capable of doing this? Like what was

624
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 2: Alex thinking letting this like get through because there's no

625
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:05,759
Speaker 2: way we have such limited time in the studio, right

626
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 2: And I was like, I don't have time for this,

627
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 2: Like I'm already on the verge of a meltdown every

628
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 2: time I go into the recording studio. And I just

629
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:18,399
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, they really gave him freedom. They said,

630
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:20,400
Speaker 2: you do you okay?

631
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:23,839
Speaker 5: You would think so because the way we started out

632
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 5: every song was we have to do this also as

633
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:29,359
Speaker 5: fast I'm sure as you guys had too, but we

634
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 5: have to do this exactly like the record, and then

635
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:36,440
Speaker 5: you're going to have like two little spots to just

636
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:39,279
Speaker 5: go off. But they told me they wanted it to

637
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 5: be like you, and you're gonna kill me for this.

638
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:46,239
Speaker 5: But I already knew your boys, so we don't have

639
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 5: to discuss how. But you know, you know, but I

640
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 5: was a fan. I knew your ones, I knew the

641
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 5: type of music you listened to, just from like knowing

642
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 5: your voice from years before. It makes sense, so I

643
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 5: was I thought I was being you a little bit

644
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 5: like I don't know when it kind of started morphing

645
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:15,840
Speaker 5: into artie. I don't know that it ever did that.

646
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:17,880
Speaker 5: I was trying to be you when they were saying

647
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 5: that give it a little second, because I often did

648
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 5: guides for like Darren and Pord and I never was

649
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 5: given those moments because they didn't sing like that. So

650
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:32,400
Speaker 5: I feel like, you know, I appreciate your accolades, but

651
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 5: I was emulating you the whole time. I mean, or

652
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 5: at least what I thought your voice was, or what

653
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 5: it was to me.

654
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 2: You know, I love that my voice sounded like that

655
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 2: in your head.

656
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:47,400
Speaker 5: I wish I.

657
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 2: Wish my voice sounded like But I have to say

658
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 2: you made me I think a much better singer where

659
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 2: I think I started to sound like you in a

660
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 2: good way, like because I just wanted. The first couple

661
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 2: of sessions, it was meltdown city of I can't do this.

662
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 2: He is too good for me, like I don't. I

663
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 2: can't keep up with him. And also your tone is insane,

664
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 2: and it's it's like you know when Sea writes a song,

665
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:19,440
Speaker 2: and you know when Sia has written the song for

666
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 2: somebody else because everyone's trying to do see it because

667
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 2: her tone is so cool, totally or beyond like your

668
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:31,839
Speaker 2: technical ability, which is wild. Your tone is unreal. And

669
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 2: so I go in there, I'm like, well, I'm a

670
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:37,839
Speaker 2: fan of this person now right, and I just want

671
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 2: to hear their version of like I just want to

672
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:43,799
Speaker 2: And so there was so often I was like, how

673
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:46,799
Speaker 2: do I get that rasp on this word? Or like

674
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:49,800
Speaker 2: you were certainly throwing these like oh, like he is

675
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 2: Michael Jackson. He's like, oh, yes, that's what I've been

676
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:53,840
Speaker 2: wanting to do for years but never allowed me to

677
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 2: do them.

678
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:59,720
Speaker 5: Yo, Okay. Somewhere in the last few seasons, Adam made

679
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 5: a like just cut of two minutes, two minute and

680
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 5: a half, two minutes of just in the end of

681
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 5: phrases so bad and also I was so bad at talking.

682
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 5: I hated when you had to talk?

683
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:21,440
Speaker 2: Why did I always have to talk? And songs oh, like, oh,

684
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 2: it's my least favorite thing in the world.

685
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 5: Made my skin crawl. And Adam every day was like,

686
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:29,360
Speaker 5: if you didn't sing like this, I would fire you

687
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 5: for the talking part, like this sucks, this sucks. And

688
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 5: there were several times I guarantee you several times that

689
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:38,920
Speaker 5: Tim or Adam were doing the talking parts in my

690
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 5: yeah often I know. Uh the Robin Thick song definitely

691
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 5: didn't speak in that at all.

692
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 2: Just said that was Yeah, I'm so glad you felt

693
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 2: that way too. I had to really, it was one

694
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 2: of those songs like I had to pull up. I'm like,

695
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 2: this is my job. I'm getting paid to do this. Yeah,

696
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:04,319
Speaker 2: I have to ignore how uncomfortable and how much my

697
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 2: skin is crawling in this moment, likeyt like, hey girl,

698
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:12,240
Speaker 2: let me run away, please, let me run into traffic

699
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:14,759
Speaker 2: uptown fun Oh my god.

700
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, skin crawl.

701
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,239
Speaker 5: The whole thing is just jin.

702
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:24,920
Speaker 2: The song is the worst. It's actually the worst happened

703
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 2: so often. Had you done much session singing before Glee?

704
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:32,840
Speaker 5: No, not a lot. I learned so much about session

705
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:37,839
Speaker 5: singing during that, and every session post Lee has been

706
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 5: a breeze because I mean, y'all know, we're on two

707
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 5: hundred in those sessions, and the amount of stuff that

708
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 5: those producers and musicians and singers and engineers and vocalists,

709
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 5: the amount of stuff that happens in twenty four hours

710
00:39:55,200 --> 00:40:00,319
Speaker 5: takes weeks or months sometimes and we were all going

711
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:04,239
Speaker 5: one hundred miles an hour. I don't know how you

712
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 5: guys did it being on camera as well, because just

713
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 5: the off camera side of guides and backgrounds. I mean,

714
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:16,359
Speaker 5: I was in the studio in near Adam's house in

715
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 5: like sixty eighty hours a week often, and I mean

716
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 5: there were times we did that. It was a meat

717
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 5: loaf song, Paradise by the dashboard, that's twenty four hours,

718
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 5: and slept in East West on sunset. People had sleeping bags,

719
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 5: people brocks. Like Tim was like, bring your jammis it's

720
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:39,320
Speaker 5: going to be a long night. Left at six am,

721
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:42,920
Speaker 5: I mean, and it was I mean that was normal

722
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 5: for many years, and so I don't know. I don't

723
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 5: know how y'all did it.

724
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:54,359
Speaker 2: I was saying. The difference is is like you're also

725
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:58,240
Speaker 2: having to sing. It's like you get tired. You're different.

726
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 2: Like I feel like the voice it's impacted by all

727
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 2: those things so easily. Maybe not you guys because you're

728
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:06,839
Speaker 2: all like experts, but like a good gust of wind

729
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 2: break messes up my voice.

730
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. Yeah, hours forget.

731
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:14,360
Speaker 5: It right every now and then I go through that.

732
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 5: But for the most part, I think there was just

733
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 5: a certain part of my range that was just used

734
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:25,239
Speaker 5: and abused for so many hours of every day of

735
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:26,880
Speaker 5: every week, and so it was kind of a muscle

736
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 5: memory thing. At some point, like we felt the fatigue.

737
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 5: But when we were coming in the studio, Tim was like,

738
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 5: y'all need a steroid, We're gonna get the nurse up here,

739
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:38,400
Speaker 5: or like there was no there was no time.

740
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 2: To Yeah, we around.

741
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:42,880
Speaker 5: The type of money we were making, the type of

742
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:45,239
Speaker 5: hours we were putting in to make that money was

743
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:47,319
Speaker 5: unheard of in the session world at the time, and

744
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 5: I'm pretty sure that it has not been the same since.

745
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:55,239
Speaker 5: I mean, those the rates were insane. The amount of

746
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 5: time I've never been in the studio that long.

747
00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 2: Good though, That's very good to hear though, Like because

748
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:02,400
Speaker 2: you guys yeah, oh yeah, they.

749
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 5: Yeah, they they It was a huge blessing and I

750
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 5: you know, we worked, we worked for what we made,

751
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 5: but it was like it was it was lovely to

752
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 5: be a part, but like you said, it was exhausting.

753
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 5: I mean, but I mean, I don't know at the

754
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 5: same time it was I don't know how it was

755
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:28,280
Speaker 5: on the the on camera side, but in our world

756
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:32,280
Speaker 5: it was so murky, like there were.

757
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:38,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, let it out, let it out.

758
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:42,880
Speaker 5: I just feel like there was glee or nothing. And

759
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 5: if you didn't, like if you didn't follow the religion

760
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:52,400
Speaker 5: of it all, like if you didn't hitch yourself to

761
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 5: that wagon and no other wagon. I mean, the amount

762
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 5: of time that we got fired and rehired as singers,

763
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 5: outlandish amounts and for nothing, like because we would take

764
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 5: another session, or because we were, you know, at home

765
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 5: for our brother's wedding and didn't want to come back

766
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:14,760
Speaker 5: and Okay, we're replacing you. Somebody else is doing somebody

767
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:16,799
Speaker 5: else is doing guides for already now it's fine, or

768
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:22,360
Speaker 5: you know, I'm I mean many times and for silly things,

769
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:25,279
Speaker 5: and it was just I didn't realize it at the time.

770
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:28,400
Speaker 5: I think it took looking back after everything was over,

771
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 5: how yes, hectic, how inappropriate that was. There was a

772
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 5: lot of I was twenty two, twenty one, I think

773
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:43,880
Speaker 5: when I started creeping into the warbler world, and then

774
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 5: a few years.

775
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:47,280
Speaker 2: Were seeing that at twenty one, Oh.

776
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 5: My god, you're the same age as me. You realize that, right, Yeah, so.

777
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 2: You're sorry?

778
00:43:56,560 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 5: Nope, please, no, So I was. I was a kid

779
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:05,440
Speaker 5: in many ways and took a lot of shit that

780
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:09,759
Speaker 5: I wouldn't take now. And not to not to diss

781
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 5: anybody who was a part of it, like we all, yeah,

782
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 5: we all take responsibility for how subservient we were to

783
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 5: the beast that was the Glee music machine. And you know,

784
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:27,719
Speaker 5: we've all got the plaques and the accolades and the

785
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 5: exciting things to show for it. And honestly, it is

786
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:36,319
Speaker 5: the most intense training into being a background vocalist being

787
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:39,879
Speaker 5: involved in television production that I like, no one will

788
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:42,719
Speaker 5: ever be able to have that experience for me, that's invaluable.

789
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:48,439
Speaker 5: But I definitely, yeah, I had I had some time

790
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 5: with a therapist specifically for my time involved in being

791
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:54,880
Speaker 5: involved in that afterwards, it.

792
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:59,320
Speaker 1: Was you know, grueling. Yeah, yeah, we had similar No,

793
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:01,839
Speaker 1: we definitely had similar experiences where I think there were

794
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 1: times where it was like, you're expendable, we can you know,

795
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:10,279
Speaker 1: the whole is bigger than you, which it is, but

796
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 1: it made you feel very small in the machine of

797
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 1: it all.

798
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:16,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like a small cog in the machine.

799
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:20,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, might be exactly totally.

800
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 5: And for me personally, I was hearing you know, oh

801
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:28,719
Speaker 5: my god, nobody sings like this, or you know, this

802
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 5: is crazy. You know, you're you're so blessed or you're

803
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:35,360
Speaker 5: whatever whatever, And by design, you know, my parents are

804
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 5: Southern Ministers, so like I'm I'm taught to like, oh,

805
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:42,760
Speaker 5: you know for that, and like, you know, I'm blessed,

806
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:45,839
Speaker 5: and I do feel that way, but to hear those

807
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:49,959
Speaker 5: things constantly. But then also if I took too long

808
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:52,480
Speaker 5: doing a take or they didn't like the talking shit

809
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 5: and they had to have somebody come in and talking,

810
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 5: We'll fucking get rid of you because we can get

811
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:58,840
Speaker 5: somebody else in here. And I'm like, okay, but literally

812
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 5: twenty seconds ago, you were so I from that that

813
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 5: back and forth. For me, I didn't realize the toll

814
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 5: that was sticking on me until after we were done,

815
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:12,799
Speaker 5: because once I started, I didn't stop until.

816
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 7: Yeah.

817
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:15,719
Speaker 2: There's no moment to reflect. You just have to like

818
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:18,360
Speaker 2: go yeah.

819
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 5: And that was heavy for me, but it also it

820
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:23,319
Speaker 5: also helped. There's not been a single studio I've walked

821
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 5: in since then that has thrown me anything in any way,

822
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:31,919
Speaker 5: whether right, whether it be musical or personality wise or

823
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:36,719
Speaker 5: clashing of anything. There's just that because I went through

824
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 5: the Ringer.

825
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:37,920
Speaker 4: Yeah.

826
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 2: Also think it's just a testament to like how big

827
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 2: of a beast the production of the show was, because

828
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:47,239
Speaker 2: you know, I think what people see is such a

829
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 2: small fraction of what it takes to actually make the thing.

830
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:53,440
Speaker 2: As I get you see the musical numbers, you get

831
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:56,799
Speaker 2: to see the production design, the choreography, the sets, the

832
00:46:56,840 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 2: camera work, the actors, all of that, but behind it

833
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:04,800
Speaker 2: is twenty four hours of work a day by dozens

834
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 2: of session singers and music producers in Sweden and rousers here,

835
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 2: and like there's people who are having health issues, like

836
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:16,239
Speaker 2: Adam Manners was talking about, like where like there's no

837
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 2: time for anybody to do anything else, And yeah, there's

838
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:22,400
Speaker 2: a bunch of bitches in line who would cut you

839
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 2: down to try to get it to be a part

840
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 2: of that totally. So it's like this really weird dichotomy

841
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:30,279
Speaker 2: of I'm grateful to be part of this thing. I'm

842
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:32,400
Speaker 2: grateful to be part of this family of friends, like

843
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 2: the best friends I've ever made in the world and

844
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 2: have some of the best like working memories I've ever

845
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 2: made in the world. Totally, but at the same time,

846
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 2: like this can't be good for me physically or emotionally.

847
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:47,280
Speaker 8: Totally.

848
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, And it's crazy that you said that about the

849
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 5: Sweden thing, because I'm reminded of the timing and the

850
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:57,319
Speaker 5: process of how it all works, because Sweden would do

851
00:47:57,360 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 5: the music like twelve to fifteen hours before we would

852
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 5: go in, and we would go in like you know,

853
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:06,239
Speaker 5: fifteen or twenty four before. You guys would go in

854
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 5: to cut your leads, and then you guys would record

855
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 5: what you just or sorry, filmed what you just recorded

856
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 5: the next day, and so it was like a five

857
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:19,760
Speaker 5: day process for one song. And you guys never stopped exactly,

858
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 5: and no one really did. But I mean you guys

859
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 5: who were there all the time. I'm just like contient

860
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:30,000
Speaker 5: applause because I you know, I can tiny violin and

861
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:31,759
Speaker 5: what was me all day? But you guys had it

862
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 5: twice as hard. I just it's it's wild.

863
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:36,799
Speaker 1: I mean in some ways, yeah, but we were we

864
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:39,440
Speaker 1: were rotating, right, Like when you guys were working on

865
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 1: the songs that we were about to work on, we're

866
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:44,359
Speaker 1: working on the ones that you guys worked on. It

867
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 1: was really crazy. It was really crazy, you know, and

868
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:50,759
Speaker 1: then Sweden's working on it overnight while we're sleeping, and

869
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 1: then they're producing in and sometimes we would actually have

870
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 1: to record or shoot the musical numbers to your guides.

871
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 1: Oh so so the demo. Every once in a while,

872
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 1: the song wasn't ready, the song wasn't camped yet, and

873
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:10,400
Speaker 1: so we would be doing the version that you we

874
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:15,120
Speaker 1: would get to guide the demo oh okay, which was

875
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:19,760
Speaker 1: pretty crazy because to some level, like we were pretty

876
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:22,720
Speaker 1: they were pretty strict about us staying to the guide,

877
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:25,759
Speaker 1: right because that's that was the original, that's what you

878
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 1: guys had put down. But to some extent, it's like

879
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 1: we also like had to put our own and the

880
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:33,360
Speaker 1: character on it and our own spin on it. And

881
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 1: so you're like, I don't know, if I held that

882
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 1: a little longer, or if I did this a little differently.

883
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:45,239
Speaker 1: So it's so it was such a wild machine. It's

884
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 1: such a wild experience totally. Did you feel the pressure

885
00:49:56,840 --> 00:50:02,399
Speaker 1: of like having to perform and a produce in such

886
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:03,840
Speaker 1: a short amount of time.

887
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 5: Every now and then, I feel like when the scenes

888
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:12,840
Speaker 5: would be more emotional and the entirety of the song

889
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:17,040
Speaker 5: would be less important, Yeah, there would be more pressure

890
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:19,319
Speaker 5: on us as a vocalist because sometimes they would give

891
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:22,399
Speaker 5: us sides and have us read, you know, what's going

892
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:23,240
Speaker 5: on in this scene?

893
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:26,279
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, coud. You guys can get a lot of

894
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:27,759
Speaker 1: context of what was happening in.

895
00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:30,440
Speaker 5: The hardly ever, and so that when we did get

896
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:33,440
Speaker 5: those moments, there was a lot of oh okay, they

897
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:37,760
Speaker 5: really because you know, I knew I sang for Artie, yeah,

898
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:40,720
Speaker 5: a few other people, but Artie was like my person,

899
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:44,000
Speaker 5: and so I knew the sound to emulate the you know,

900
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 5: I would watch him sing a lot, because the way

901
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 5: I blend with other singers is to watch their mouth,

902
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 5: because you know, my tone is a distinct tone. But

903
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 5: I can blend if I watch how you pronounce things.

904
00:50:57,120 --> 00:50:59,239
Speaker 5: And so I would watch videos of him, whether they

905
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:02,440
Speaker 5: be you know, early lead stuff or some NLT stuff,

906
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:06,400
Speaker 5: and I would just watch how he said words, and

907
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:10,439
Speaker 5: so that would be how I honed in on him.

908
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 5: But if ever, they said, you know, it didn't really

909
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:17,640
Speaker 5: happen with Kevin much. But if ever there was a

910
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:20,680
Speaker 5: time where a character really needed to like sing to

911
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:23,360
Speaker 5: convey a message in the scene versus like having to

912
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:27,360
Speaker 5: do with this song they bring, bring us you know,

913
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:29,880
Speaker 5: script and kind of explain what's going on. You know

914
00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:32,879
Speaker 5: that that would add some The first thing that comes

915
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:36,480
Speaker 5: to mind is not while I'm around. They were super

916
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 5: serious about that, and they had already had some like

917
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:43,239
Speaker 5: preliminary video of like Kurt laying there, and so they

918
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 5: like showed it to us and like this is what

919
00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 5: the scene's going to look like. And so I remember

920
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:51,440
Speaker 5: that day was really heavy. Also, I was the only

921
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 5: gay every now and then there was another gay storm

922
00:51:56,520 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 5: and he was incredible lovely, yes, But other than that,

923
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:08,000
Speaker 5: it was very tight knit, very Christian, very that group

924
00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:11,359
Speaker 5: in the singing world. And so when that subject matter

925
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:13,759
Speaker 5: came up that day or remember a lot of the

926
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:16,080
Speaker 5: other singers like are you okay? Are you okay? And

927
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:19,759
Speaker 5: I'm like yes, like okay, like it's heavy. It is

928
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:22,279
Speaker 5: a heavy topic, but like it's fictional, guys, and like

929
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:25,480
Speaker 5: you know, it didn't it hasn't happened to me, Thank god.

930
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 1: It's just so fascinating, like the context of which you

931
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 1: guys are trying to be your own person, emulate be

932
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:40,680
Speaker 1: an artist, to create something, and then also trying to

933
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:46,520
Speaker 1: impersonate if you will, to a level like do you

934
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:51,160
Speaker 1: feel like you lost like Luke sound ever in that time?

935
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:55,560
Speaker 5: Absolutely, And it was so great that at the beginning

936
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 5: of this conversation that Kevin said that about my tone,

937
00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:01,919
Speaker 5: because I know that I have a pretty distinct sound

938
00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:06,520
Speaker 5: and in productions that it doesn't call for that I

939
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:11,160
Speaker 5: have to work harder to mask it versus where other

940
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:15,320
Speaker 5: people might have to try harder to make this sound correct.

941
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:20,000
Speaker 5: And as I worked for, you know, singing for Artie,

942
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:23,880
Speaker 5: they I was kind of trying to be more straight

943
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:27,600
Speaker 5: toned and like clearer, and they kind of let me

944
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:32,480
Speaker 5: work it in as time went on. But it was

945
00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:36,479
Speaker 5: a mind fuck for sure, because you know, I moved

946
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 5: here and met Tim because he was like some kind

947
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:44,480
Speaker 5: of religious guidance for the American Idol team. When I

948
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:47,520
Speaker 5: auditioned and didn't make it past Hollywood Week and he

949
00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:50,440
Speaker 5: was like, well, you have to move here, like I

950
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:52,719
Speaker 5: could hire you. And so that to me was like

951
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:55,759
Speaker 5: my oh my god, this is my Jesus, you know

952
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:59,799
Speaker 5: what I mean. So there was never anything that was

953
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:04,759
Speaker 5: you know, setting Stone. I just met him and he

954
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:08,359
Speaker 5: was like, I could I could make me rich out

955
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 5: of right. And so when I came here, you know,

956
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:13,840
Speaker 5: he hired me on like a video game session and

957
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:18,120
Speaker 5: then like like a jingle session for KTLA and then

958
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:22,719
Speaker 5: they then he was like, Okay, this war war thing

959
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 5: is going to happen, like I'm going to try to

960
00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:28,319
Speaker 5: get you in here. But during that time, I still

961
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:32,200
Speaker 5: thought like I still had the American idle mindset, you know,

962
00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:34,600
Speaker 5: like I'm going to be an artist. I'm going to

963
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 5: be a singer. I'm gonna, yeah, my own singer. And

964
00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:46,640
Speaker 5: I definitely lost a lot of that individuality and who

965
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:49,320
Speaker 5: I thought I was, And in some ways it was

966
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:51,840
Speaker 5: a good thing. There was a lot of pompous, confident

967
00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:55,320
Speaker 5: like big fish in a small pond vibes coming out here,

968
00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:57,600
Speaker 5: and I definitely needed to be knocked off my high

969
00:54:57,600 --> 00:55:04,080
Speaker 5: horse being in in you know, being a small cog

970
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:07,719
Speaker 5: in the machine that this was right. That knocked me

971
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:13,759
Speaker 5: off real fucking facts. Ye sure, but I don't know,

972
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:18,719
Speaker 5: honestly if the good parts of that person and that

973
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:23,000
Speaker 5: individual have fully been found yet. And I don't know

974
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:25,400
Speaker 5: how you guys deal with it, because I mean, you

975
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:30,160
Speaker 5: guys took on a full on living character. I was

976
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:36,000
Speaker 5: emulating that person doing that character, So I can't imagine

977
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 5: what it did to your brain into your heart because

978
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 5: you're never not Tina, you know what I mean exactly.

979
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:47,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, for a really long time in audition rooms, like

980
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:52,879
Speaker 1: it was very hard to shake Tina, and it's very

981
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:56,600
Speaker 1: hard to shake people to not see me as Tina forever.

982
00:55:57,440 --> 00:56:00,319
Speaker 1: I mean, any kind of juggernaut phenomenon that you see

983
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:03,200
Speaker 1: characters like John Stainless, even though he was on our show,

984
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:06,480
Speaker 1: he will always be Uncle Jesse. Like they're just characters

985
00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:09,680
Speaker 1: and it will never leave you. But you know, you

986
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:11,920
Speaker 1: hope with time you can shake that at least. So

987
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:14,480
Speaker 1: I don't care. I can't control what other people see.

988
00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:17,360
Speaker 1: I understand that, but you know, for me, it's like

989
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:19,360
Speaker 1: I feel like I've gotten to shake her, and I

990
00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:23,759
Speaker 1: feel like this podcast has given us a chance to reimagine,

991
00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:27,520
Speaker 1: or like therapy is like what we're what we've been

992
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:31,360
Speaker 1: through and to really heal, you know, in a different way,

993
00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:35,040
Speaker 1: because it was it was really hard to shake for

994
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:38,279
Speaker 1: a really long time, and your worth is all wrapped.

995
00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:41,880
Speaker 5: Up in it, totally totally. I mean for X amount

996
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:45,080
Speaker 5: of years, everything you did was about this person. It's

997
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:49,080
Speaker 5: how you made money, it's how you appeared, it's how anytime,

998
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:51,800
Speaker 5: even in your off time, you're thinking about Like like

999
00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:54,640
Speaker 5: I was watching videos with Kevin, Like I whenever I

1000
00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:57,319
Speaker 5: saw Kevin, I felt like I knew him way better

1001
00:56:57,400 --> 00:57:02,080
Speaker 5: than I did. So anytime we've hung out and I'm like,

1002
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:04,239
Speaker 5: I know I'm acting like your best friend, and I

1003
00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:07,080
Speaker 5: know that that's weird, but he gets it, I'm sure,

1004
00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:12,480
Speaker 5: because it's just it's a fully experience.

1005
00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:24,520
Speaker 1: And totally totally so fascinating. Are there any songs that

1006
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:29,080
Speaker 1: stick out to you that you loved doing, maybe particularly

1007
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:32,760
Speaker 1: arty songs or work especially hard for you?

1008
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:37,680
Speaker 5: Okay, I really got to go off on applause.

1009
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:45,200
Speaker 2: I yes, I'm so thankful to you for that. Like

1010
00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:52,240
Speaker 2: that felt like an orgasm of a vocal. Everything so

1011
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:58,200
Speaker 2: much fun doing it, Your musicality, your understanding of like you,

1012
00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:01,360
Speaker 2: I don't know how you find these and you picked

1013
00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:04,760
Speaker 2: them out, and it feels so right to sing them

1014
00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:09,160
Speaker 2: and I hadn't never experienced anything like that, and like applause,

1015
00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:12,800
Speaker 2: just felt like they were yelling, like doing things that

1016
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:15,160
Speaker 2: you never think you would do on the song and

1017
00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:17,160
Speaker 2: it's I go and listen to that all the time

1018
00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:19,040
Speaker 2: because of what you did.

1019
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:22,320
Speaker 5: I too, listened to it all the time. I loved

1020
00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:26,560
Speaker 5: that session. I also loved Let's Wait a While. That's

1021
00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:28,040
Speaker 5: maybe one of my favorites.

1022
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:31,840
Speaker 2: That was really hard. I never really got it.

1023
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:35,920
Speaker 5: I was. I loved it. You guys sounded I listened

1024
00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:39,120
Speaker 5: to both the I have okay, a lot of the

1025
00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:41,640
Speaker 5: songs that I did that I like, I have the

1026
00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:44,320
Speaker 5: cast version and then the guide version and so like

1027
00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:47,920
Speaker 5: they'll play back to back on things I show that

1028
00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:52,520
Speaker 5: it's so it's exact. You can't tell me you.

1029
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:55,120
Speaker 2: Didn't get it, No, I well they they you know,

1030
00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:57,240
Speaker 2: gave me a little extra love. And on the melodime

1031
00:58:57,520 --> 00:59:01,080
Speaker 2: that because there was it was that and at last

1032
00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:05,880
Speaker 2: where your voice is higher than we like, you can

1033
00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:07,720
Speaker 2: just hang up there more than I can't, like I

1034
00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:13,120
Speaker 2: can visit you can like park And so those both

1035
00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:16,160
Speaker 2: of those songs, like sat in a really uncomfortable place

1036
00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:19,680
Speaker 2: in my voice, and I was like, I can't do it.

1037
00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:23,160
Speaker 2: I don't know how to do it. So he like

1038
00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:27,440
Speaker 2: they really those two songs in particular really just did

1039
00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:29,120
Speaker 2: some magic on me, and I was very thankful.

1040
00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:32,400
Speaker 5: I loved at last. That ending was so cool.

1041
00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:37,760
Speaker 2: You know what stupid you did a thing on You

1042
00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:40,120
Speaker 2: always do it in songs too, where you wouldn't expect it.

1043
00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:43,440
Speaker 2: On the one hundredth episode version of Loser Like Me,

1044
00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:49,720
Speaker 2: you do this run at the end that is so insane.

1045
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:52,919
Speaker 2: Have to listen to it, and it's tucked so low,

1046
00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:55,640
Speaker 2: but if anybody goes and listens to it, it's like

1047
00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:59,480
Speaker 2: right at the very the last hook of Loser Like Me,

1048
00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:02,640
Speaker 2: and and it's like if you're singing those lyrics so seriously,

1049
01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:06,600
Speaker 2: it's hilarious. Right, But then you have Luke doing this

1050
01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:11,720
Speaker 2: like beautiful like run in there that is just like

1051
01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:14,520
Speaker 2: complimenting the harmonies that are going on, and they're just

1052
01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:18,680
Speaker 2: like tucked underneath there also Breakaway, like oh god, oh

1053
01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:21,120
Speaker 2: what a great song, A.

1054
01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:23,320
Speaker 5: Hard one was addicted to love, remember that one.

1055
01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:26,480
Speaker 2: I listened to that recently because I forgot about it,

1056
01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:31,040
Speaker 2: and what Yeah, yeah.

1057
01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:32,000
Speaker 5: That was crazy. But I mean, that was one of

1058
01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:34,000
Speaker 5: the ones where there weren't any ad libs and it

1059
01:00:34,040 --> 01:00:36,040
Speaker 5: was just like a musical outro for like a minute

1060
01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:38,960
Speaker 5: and a half and so yes, Adam during only during

1061
01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:42,200
Speaker 5: those times was he like, just do whatever you want.

1062
01:00:42,560 --> 01:00:48,200
Speaker 5: And during that Alex often was like, Okay, you're you're

1063
01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:51,000
Speaker 5: doing a little much and you know, rein it back

1064
01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:52,760
Speaker 5: in And that was one of those days. But he

1065
01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:54,440
Speaker 5: was like, honestly, let's.

1066
01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:56,760
Speaker 2: Just put all these in and just yeah, needs it.

1067
01:00:57,280 --> 01:01:01,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, and he it's just looked at me when we

1068
01:01:01,120 --> 01:01:02,720
Speaker 5: were done company and he was like, Kevin is going

1069
01:01:02,760 --> 01:01:03,720
Speaker 5: to be so mad at you.

1070
01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:07,680
Speaker 2: I was, but I got your number eventually.

1071
01:01:07,760 --> 01:01:11,640
Speaker 5: Then I remember the very first time it happened American Boy,

1072
01:01:12,200 --> 01:01:14,720
Speaker 5: I was doing a guide for and I remember you

1073
01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:16,600
Speaker 5: texting me. I can't remember what song you were doing,

1074
01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:19,360
Speaker 5: but all it said was I hate you and I

1075
01:01:20,200 --> 01:01:21,000
Speaker 5: know this person.

1076
01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:25,240
Speaker 2: I think it was probably I would least suspect it

1077
01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:29,840
Speaker 2: on this song. But why, like, why in the world

1078
01:01:30,040 --> 01:01:32,200
Speaker 2: would you go so hard on footloose?

1079
01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:35,040
Speaker 3: Yo?

1080
01:01:35,600 --> 01:01:36,280
Speaker 5: That was so.

1081
01:01:38,280 --> 01:01:41,160
Speaker 2: Was the meat. That was cruel, Luke. It was cool.

1082
01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:43,400
Speaker 2: I love it. I go and listen to it all

1083
01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:45,240
Speaker 2: the time because I'm like how did how did I

1084
01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:48,160
Speaker 2: get some of those? Because it is just one run?

1085
01:01:48,320 --> 01:01:51,800
Speaker 2: You were just running, You're doing that, you're doing like

1086
01:01:52,520 --> 01:01:58,400
Speaker 2: on footloose. That what just because you can also do.

1087
01:01:58,320 --> 01:02:03,920
Speaker 5: You remember your bridge moment in wishing and hoping you

1088
01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:06,919
Speaker 5: got to listen.

1089
01:02:08,600 --> 01:02:13,280
Speaker 2: I love because you because you did it. Like there

1090
01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:15,080
Speaker 2: were times before you came on that I would try

1091
01:02:15,120 --> 01:02:17,880
Speaker 2: to sneak in a little thing like that or like

1092
01:02:17,920 --> 01:02:21,440
Speaker 2: a whale, and they're like, no, no, no, that's not

1093
01:02:21,640 --> 01:02:25,160
Speaker 2: uncalled for, and it probably was uncalled for because like

1094
01:02:25,560 --> 01:02:27,960
Speaker 2: your musicality is so good, like you put it in

1095
01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:31,200
Speaker 2: the right places of where it actually works, and because

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Speaker 2: you were doing it, it was such a gift to

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01:02:33,320 --> 01:02:35,280
Speaker 2: be like, ah, I can finally get to try to

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01:02:35,320 --> 01:02:37,520
Speaker 2: like use this part of my voice that I've wanted

1099
01:02:37,560 --> 01:02:40,440
Speaker 2: to that I don't really know what to do with.

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01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:44,479
Speaker 2: And then because you did it, then I could try

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01:02:44,520 --> 01:02:46,480
Speaker 2: to do it in like a less good way, but

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01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:48,200
Speaker 2: I'd still going to try to do it. And it

1103
01:02:48,280 --> 01:02:51,480
Speaker 2: was so and so it really was like I can't

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01:02:52,480 --> 01:02:56,240
Speaker 2: like overstate how much, especially when you've been doing this

1105
01:02:56,320 --> 01:03:00,400
Speaker 2: thing for four years and you've gone through all of it.

1106
01:03:00,440 --> 01:03:04,280
Speaker 2: I lost my voice because I had gotten sick I

1107
01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:06,000
Speaker 2: doing songs. It was like, I don't know if I

1108
01:03:06,120 --> 01:03:08,560
Speaker 2: like this version of this song. I hope the artist

1109
01:03:08,720 --> 01:03:12,200
Speaker 2: likes it, and you're tired and blah blah blah blah blah.

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01:03:12,240 --> 01:03:15,000
Speaker 2: And then you show up and it's like this really

1111
01:03:15,040 --> 01:03:17,720
Speaker 2: like juicy thing that all of a sudden I get

1112
01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:20,600
Speaker 2: to like learn something new about myself that broke sort

1113
01:03:20,600 --> 01:03:23,320
Speaker 2: of the rhythm of what I had been used to

1114
01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:25,240
Speaker 2: that I hadn't felt since the very beginning of the show.

1115
01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:29,800
Speaker 2: And once I stopped resisting it, and it was just like, Okay,

1116
01:03:29,880 --> 01:03:32,520
Speaker 2: here's another Luke vocal. Yeah, let me see. Then it

1117
01:03:32,520 --> 01:03:35,480
Speaker 2: became a competition where I was so put of it

1118
01:03:35,600 --> 01:03:37,680
Speaker 2: in that booth and Alex knew. I was like, let

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01:03:37,680 --> 01:03:41,000
Speaker 2: me figure out how I can at least get close.

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Speaker 2: Like my goal was to always just get close to

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01:03:43,560 --> 01:03:45,400
Speaker 2: what you're doing, Like if I can get eighty five

1122
01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:48,520
Speaker 2: percent of what you've given me, I'll feel good about myself.

1123
01:03:48,600 --> 01:03:49,680
Speaker 2: And so that was always.

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Speaker 5: After a while, Alex would start to text me and say, oh,

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01:03:53,880 --> 01:03:58,640
Speaker 5: he's coming for you. No, yeah, because he knew he

1126
01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:01,120
Speaker 5: knew we were competing, so he was like, oh, this

1127
01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:05,360
Speaker 5: is getting fun and he's during season six, he was like, man,

1128
01:04:05,560 --> 01:04:08,000
Speaker 5: like the closer we got to the end, the wilder

1129
01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:11,280
Speaker 5: we got, and so he was just like, man, this sucks.

1130
01:04:11,280 --> 01:04:13,400
Speaker 5: We should have been we should have been competing for

1131
01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:14,320
Speaker 5: this long at all.

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01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:17,480
Speaker 1: Before we let you go, we have one more question

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01:04:17,640 --> 01:04:21,080
Speaker 1: for you. Can you tell us what the feeling that

1134
01:04:21,160 --> 01:04:22,280
Speaker 1: Glee leaves you with?

1135
01:04:23,960 --> 01:04:28,600
Speaker 5: Glee leaves me feeling happy because of things like this,

1136
01:04:29,320 --> 01:04:36,080
Speaker 5: I got so attached to being a moving part of

1137
01:04:36,120 --> 01:04:39,040
Speaker 5: a machine that often I took for granted what was

1138
01:04:39,080 --> 01:04:43,000
Speaker 5: happening in the moment, whether it be you know, twenty

1139
01:04:43,040 --> 01:04:47,400
Speaker 5: four hour sessions or just seeing people walk in like

1140
01:04:48,040 --> 01:04:52,200
Speaker 5: Sarah Jessica Parker to sing a lead vocal. It's like, okay,

1141
01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:56,920
Speaker 5: thank John, and you forget that those things are happening.

1142
01:04:57,160 --> 01:05:02,080
Speaker 5: And so I just have the happiest, warmest feelings about

1143
01:05:02,280 --> 01:05:06,080
Speaker 5: those times, even the times that we're filled with struggle

1144
01:05:06,600 --> 01:05:13,640
Speaker 5: or no sleep, because it family is often dysfunctional, and

1145
01:05:13,720 --> 01:05:16,919
Speaker 5: so I just always think of it as family. And

1146
01:05:17,760 --> 01:05:21,720
Speaker 5: I still talk to those singers even though we don't

1147
01:05:21,720 --> 01:05:25,760
Speaker 5: sing together much anymore on a daily basis, And you know,

1148
01:05:25,960 --> 01:05:28,400
Speaker 5: I feel like like I felt like I knew you

1149
01:05:28,520 --> 01:05:31,480
Speaker 5: so much better than I actually do. And every time

1150
01:05:31,520 --> 01:05:33,520
Speaker 5: I've seen each other, I'm like, this is my best

1151
01:05:33,520 --> 01:05:39,200
Speaker 5: friend over yeah, Like but truth is, it's this process

1152
01:05:39,240 --> 01:05:41,920
Speaker 5: that brought us together. And I feel the same way

1153
01:05:41,960 --> 01:05:46,440
Speaker 5: about Amber, And you know, I'm just so blessed to

1154
01:05:46,600 --> 01:05:49,400
Speaker 5: know her and to have her in my corner. And

1155
01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:54,960
Speaker 5: she's always, you know, at the most opportune, god driven times,

1156
01:05:55,080 --> 01:05:58,800
Speaker 5: she's always dropping into a text or a DM checking

1157
01:05:58,840 --> 01:06:02,360
Speaker 5: on me or you know, parting something that I did

1158
01:06:02,480 --> 01:06:05,480
Speaker 5: or you know, those those things don't have to happen.

1159
01:06:05,720 --> 01:06:11,000
Speaker 5: And so I'm filled with much happiness because of relationships

1160
01:06:11,040 --> 01:06:13,040
Speaker 5: like these and times like these, because you know, it

1161
01:06:13,120 --> 01:06:15,760
Speaker 5: was it was hard and groogling while it was going on,

1162
01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:18,600
Speaker 5: but being able to look back. You know a lot

1163
01:06:18,640 --> 01:06:21,320
Speaker 5: of people just assume that you remember the money, and

1164
01:06:21,360 --> 01:06:23,920
Speaker 5: that's honestly, like the last thing that I think about,

1165
01:06:24,880 --> 01:06:30,680
Speaker 5: whether these relationships are lifelong or not. I know that

1166
01:06:30,880 --> 01:06:34,160
Speaker 5: those memories will always be there, and so I, you know,

1167
01:06:35,280 --> 01:06:37,760
Speaker 5: probably wouldn't call you guys at three am there's something

1168
01:06:37,760 --> 01:06:40,160
Speaker 5: we're really going wrong. But I knew I could, you

1169
01:06:40,200 --> 01:06:40,840
Speaker 5: know what.

1170
01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:49,000
Speaker 1: I so grateful, Yes, exactly, Wow, Well, thank you so

1171
01:06:49,120 --> 01:06:52,560
Speaker 1: much for taking the time to come chat with us.

1172
01:06:52,600 --> 01:06:56,480
Speaker 1: We are so grateful and for your you know, honesty

1173
01:06:56,960 --> 01:07:00,040
Speaker 1: with you know, everybody's experience is so different with the

1174
01:06:59,880 --> 01:07:03,360
Speaker 1: show and yet so similar, and yet it bonded us

1175
01:07:03,440 --> 01:07:08,400
Speaker 1: because of there's so many things highs and lows within

1176
01:07:08,480 --> 01:07:11,520
Speaker 1: the show. So it was really just nice to connect

1177
01:07:11,560 --> 01:07:13,000
Speaker 1: with you safe.

1178
01:07:13,200 --> 01:07:15,520
Speaker 5: It was really great. Thank you guys.

1179
01:07:15,600 --> 01:07:17,840
Speaker 2: Thanks Liz seriously, thank you so much.

1180
01:07:18,120 --> 01:07:24,880
Speaker 1: Bye well, thank you Luke for spending all that time

1181
01:07:24,920 --> 01:07:28,800
Speaker 1: with us to chat about your experience. It just sounds

1182
01:07:28,800 --> 01:07:31,680
Speaker 1: like they had like a very similar experience two hours

1183
01:07:31,760 --> 01:07:35,919
Speaker 1: where they were bonded in a way in their own

1184
01:07:35,960 --> 01:07:38,840
Speaker 1: little family and their own little like bubble, you know,

1185
01:07:38,960 --> 01:07:39,440
Speaker 1: like us.

1186
01:07:39,920 --> 01:07:43,920
Speaker 2: There's just something about people coming together to make something

1187
01:07:43,920 --> 01:07:47,000
Speaker 2: that should be impossible to make, and because everybody pulls

1188
01:07:47,080 --> 01:07:49,320
Speaker 2: up and just does what they have to do, they

1189
01:07:49,320 --> 01:07:52,920
Speaker 2: make it work. And without any department not having that

1190
01:07:52,960 --> 01:07:55,680
Speaker 2: sort of mentality, the show never would have worked because

1191
01:07:55,680 --> 01:08:00,080
Speaker 2: it's a huge task. It's a huge ask of all

1192
01:08:00,120 --> 01:08:03,640
Speaker 2: these different departments to get it together at the same

1193
01:08:03,720 --> 01:08:06,439
Speaker 2: time to make it happen. I mean sometimes we did

1194
01:08:06,480 --> 01:08:08,800
Speaker 2: like seven songs or eight songs in an episode, like

1195
01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:09,880
Speaker 2: what how.

1196
01:08:10,400 --> 01:08:13,439
Speaker 1: I know it's it's actually book like we were talking

1197
01:08:13,440 --> 01:08:16,599
Speaker 1: about that, like the cycle by which they were working

1198
01:08:16,600 --> 01:08:18,240
Speaker 1: on the future songs while we were working on the

1199
01:08:18,280 --> 01:08:20,280
Speaker 1: songs they just finished, and it's just like a never

1200
01:08:20,439 --> 01:08:22,800
Speaker 1: ending cycle. But it was also sounds like a really

1201
01:08:22,880 --> 01:08:26,400
Speaker 1: lucrative and one of a kind experience for them, Like

1202
01:08:26,600 --> 01:08:28,080
Speaker 1: you know, some of the dancers that have come and

1203
01:08:28,120 --> 01:08:31,640
Speaker 1: chatted about it, it's like everybody wanted in because they knew

1204
01:08:31,840 --> 01:08:32,960
Speaker 1: it was consistent.

1205
01:08:33,520 --> 01:08:36,360
Speaker 2: I really love that everyone like felt that that it

1206
01:08:36,400 --> 01:08:39,439
Speaker 2: was And you never know, like you don't ask when

1207
01:08:39,479 --> 01:08:42,639
Speaker 2: you're doing this, like if people are getting paid well,

1208
01:08:42,680 --> 01:08:43,519
Speaker 2: like I don't know.

1209
01:08:43,400 --> 01:08:46,840
Speaker 1: You just hope, you hope, right, and like everybody is

1210
01:08:46,880 --> 01:08:50,240
Speaker 1: in a different union or different it's all a little

1211
01:08:50,280 --> 01:08:53,040
Speaker 1: bit different, so and you don't really talk about that.

1212
01:08:53,439 --> 01:08:56,479
Speaker 2: No, unluckily, like because you have unions like SAG because

1213
01:08:56,479 --> 01:08:59,240
Speaker 2: it was a SAG show, right that those type of

1214
01:08:59,320 --> 01:09:04,200
Speaker 2: people are compensated much better than they might be. Like

1215
01:09:04,240 --> 01:09:06,360
Speaker 2: even the people who like if you're watching the show

1216
01:09:06,360 --> 01:09:08,120
Speaker 2: and you hear people talking in the hallways, like in

1217
01:09:08,160 --> 01:09:10,520
Speaker 2: the background, those are people who come in to specifically

1218
01:09:10,560 --> 01:09:13,960
Speaker 2: record that and they were under SAD contracts, so they're

1219
01:09:14,120 --> 01:09:16,439
Speaker 2: also making a good amount of money. So it's it's

1220
01:09:16,479 --> 01:09:19,360
Speaker 2: amazing how these shows create like entire little economies for

1221
01:09:19,560 --> 01:09:22,240
Speaker 2: you know, everybody working on it and all these different departments.

1222
01:09:22,240 --> 01:09:26,400
Speaker 2: And yeah, it's good to hear that they should be.

1223
01:09:26,400 --> 01:09:30,000
Speaker 2: They're so talented and there's not a lot of shows

1224
01:09:30,600 --> 01:09:33,639
Speaker 2: that need singers in that way, and it's like, I'm

1225
01:09:33,720 --> 01:09:37,120
Speaker 2: just glad that that was a positive element of it.

1226
01:09:37,439 --> 01:09:40,280
Speaker 1: Well, thank you to Nikki and Luke, and I hope

1227
01:09:40,320 --> 01:09:42,720
Speaker 1: you guys enjoyed hearing about this like other whole other

1228
01:09:42,800 --> 01:09:47,240
Speaker 1: side of Glee and the music and all I know

1229
01:09:47,360 --> 01:09:50,320
Speaker 1: for sure, I love it all right, Well, thanks for joining.

1230
01:09:50,120 --> 01:09:53,439
Speaker 2: Us, and that's what you really missed. Thanks for listening

1231
01:09:53,720 --> 01:09:56,240
Speaker 2: and follow us on Instagram at and that's what you

1232
01:09:56,320 --> 01:09:58,559
Speaker 2: really miss pod. Make sure to write us a review

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01:09:58,640 --> 01:10:00,760
Speaker 2: and leave us five stars. See you next time.