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Speaker 1: Rob Shooter. It's a Monday morning. Garrett's off today for

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Speaker 1: the holiday, so it's just us naughties. But don't worry here,

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Speaker 1: we've got a ton of gossip to get to. Before

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Speaker 1: big story at the top of the show. So over

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Speaker 1: the weekend. On Friday, Vanity Fair dropped this bombshell report

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Speaker 1: on Harry and Meghan. It's a cover story. It's about

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Speaker 1: nine thousand words, which will take you about an hour

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Speaker 1: to read. It's sort of like three four chapters of

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Speaker 1: a novel. It's outrageous. Some of the stuff in it

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Speaker 1: really surprised me. We think we know everything about this couple.

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Speaker 1: Some of it I think we've heard before, and it

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Speaker 1: it is really new and really shocking. So first and off.

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Speaker 1: First off, they are saying that Meghan has been branded

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Speaker 1: really awful environment. Almost Ellen like her Sawce said the

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Speaker 1: following quote. When you are not in, you are to

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Speaker 1: be thrown to the wolves at any given moment. The

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Speaker 1: source added that when you first meet Meghan, she's warm

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Speaker 1: and she undermines her staff by gossiping, by talking behind

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Speaker 1: girls teenage behavior, and it really can be upsetting. All

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Speaker 1: the gossip and the backhanded comments. Now, if you remember

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Speaker 1: to Meghan has made it very clear that she was

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Speaker 1: never ever asked by the Palace to sign a non

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Speaker 1: disclosure She can talk about anything she wants. She chooses

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Speaker 1: not fair because we all had to sign non disclosure agreements.

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Speaker 1: Now I knew this. There is a non disclosure agreement.

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Speaker 1: People I know who have gone to work for Megan

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Speaker 1: or Harry or the Royals often sign non disclosure agreements.

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Speaker 1: They do that for celebrities too, So if you work

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Speaker 1: sign a non disclosure agreement. So I don't think that's

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Speaker 1: such a bombshell Megan being difficult. This is complicated, isn't it.

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Speaker 1: So it feels like we're piling on here, and we

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Speaker 1: certainly wouldn't call a man difficult if he was as

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Speaker 1: that she very much is the boss. Can she sometimes

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Speaker 1: be a little bit too direct, Yes, but that's her way.

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Speaker 1: That doesn't make her the B word, that doesn't make

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Speaker 1: her an awful person. And so I think here it's

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Speaker 1: This is something that's happened in my career. I've met

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Speaker 1: people who really really want to be my best friend,

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Speaker 1: source claimed that the book would focus on Meghan's life

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Speaker 1: after a potential split from Harry, not her first husband.

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Speaker 1: book was not about what it's like to go through

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Speaker 1: a divorce and then find love again. No, this book

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Speaker 1: it really gives you details, this is a specific detail.

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Speaker 1: Now some people are saying that isn't quite how it happened.

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Speaker 1: There were there was some talk about a divorce book.

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Speaker 1: But publishers approached Meghan. She did not approach anybody. Her

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Speaker 1: both live. What is there, a source told Vanity Fair.

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Speaker 1: Outside of playing polo, I don't know who Harry is.

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Speaker 1: So it is reported in Vanity Fair on a new

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Speaker 1: Justin Baldoni from It Ends with Us claims that his

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Speaker 1: Today is Martin Luther King Junior Day, the official birthday

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Speaker 1: Luther King Junior said the following quote. Darkness cannot drive

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