Speaker 1: What's up. It's sauce on the side. Episode fourteen. I
Speaker 1: know at some point I'm supposed to stop counting, but
Speaker 1: I don't care. I'm not there yet. I think you
Speaker 1: should stop counting now. Why fourteen is a weird place
Speaker 1: to stop counting.
Speaker 2: Because it's just like you're gonna stop eventually. Just now
Speaker 2: the fact that you just said I'm supposed to stop counting.
Speaker 1: Done, done, but i'm supposed to. I mean Andrew told
Speaker 1: me to stop doing it. Now that you both told
Speaker 1: me not to, I think I will can't wait till
Speaker 1: it was up fifteen Yeah, Episode seventy five, Hi, Episode
Speaker 1: two hundred and thirty four. God, and I have some
Speaker 1: ideas of stuff that I want to do. So, first
Speaker 1: of all, excited about the guest today. I'm always excited
Speaker 1: about our guests. I think if I have a guest
Speaker 1: i'm not excited about, you just won't hear it because
Speaker 1: it won't be fun. And yes, there are some that
Speaker 1: I've recorded that will never see the light of day.
Speaker 1: Oh God, but ooh, and I gotta get Andrew in
Speaker 1: here later for the burn books. I'm gonna burn his.
Speaker 2: Ass, burn them.
Speaker 1: Okay, he deserves it. Today we have one of our
Speaker 1: security guys here at the office, Chris, Officer Chris. He's awesome.
Speaker 1: He keeps us safe. You won't really see him, but
Speaker 1: if you try to mess with one of us, he
Speaker 1: will be around the corner take you out. That's what
Speaker 1: I tell myself. I don't think he actually keeps an
Speaker 1: eye on us. I feel like, eh, he's always there.
Speaker 1: I will say he did come to my art show,
Speaker 1: and he did bring a security team with him, none
Speaker 1: of whom helped me out. They were helping everyone else.
Speaker 1: But that's fine, really well, because here was the thing
Speaker 1: at my art show. The entire show was there. So
Speaker 1: I was like, you know what, Okay, there are X
Speaker 1: amount of security people. We need one at the VIP
Speaker 1: area just to keep people from stealing purses or whatever
Speaker 1: because we didn't know what was going on. And then
Speaker 1: I would like somebody with Danielle, and I would like
Speaker 1: somebody with Elvis so that they don't get harassed the
Speaker 1: entire time.
Speaker 2: I'm just trying to I'm recking my brain at this point.
Speaker 2: I just remember those margarita's and yes.
Speaker 1: Shout out to our boys at Gringoes and Jersey City
Speaker 1: for providing the Margarita's and Tacos. Who right, We're gonna
Speaker 1: have to do another show at some point. But Officer
Speaker 1: Chris is going to come in because he is not
Speaker 1: only a retired police officer for the NYPD and he
Speaker 1: has a lot of great stories. He also now is
Speaker 1: a private eye. And I have to get to the
Speaker 1: bottom of whatever I can. And I know there's probably
Speaker 1: not a lot he can specifically say, but I want
Speaker 1: to find out some things. I don't trust it. Why
Speaker 1: I don't trust it, You'll trust it never. You don't
Speaker 1: trust me private eyes? You know?
Speaker 2: Just no, I'm not paying you to do something I
Speaker 2: could do myself. I'm nosy.
Speaker 1: But oh really, you're gonna show up. You're gonna just
Speaker 1: sit outside someone's apartment for twenty four hours?
Speaker 2: Done that before. Oh twenty four hours is a long time.
Speaker 2: But now I need to get to the bottom of
Speaker 2: that twenty four minutes. Yes, who have you rolled up on?
Speaker 1: I can't say, can't say that was it someone you
Speaker 1: were dating? Someone someone else was dating? Oh not?
Speaker 2: Oh what I've done it for my friends? You need me,
Speaker 2: call me, girl, call me, beat me if you want
Speaker 2: to reach me. It's gone down. It's going down.
Speaker 1: I've done some creepy stuff with friends before, and never
Speaker 1: for myself. Now for my friends, I'm like, yeah, hold on,
Speaker 1: let me put on this hat and glasses and roll
Speaker 1: up Long Island. I love it. It's so fun. And
Speaker 1: just watch let me just watch where they're going. That's all.
Speaker 1: That's it. So we got to get to Chris. Let's
Speaker 1: bring in Chris. Chris. Chris Chris. He is a former
Speaker 1: police officer now private investigator in our security and I
Speaker 1: have so many things that I want to ask you.
Speaker 1: So Chris, thank you for.
Speaker 3: Joining me, Thank you for having me?
Speaker 1: Gandhi, are you nervous? Goodness? Should have been? You make
Speaker 1: me feel nice, nice and easy, lull you into it
Speaker 1: and then.
Speaker 3: Get it's that energy.
Speaker 4: You're good, Okay, excellent.
Speaker 1: So I don't even know where I want to start
Speaker 1: with you, because you have so many stories from the
Speaker 1: time that you are a police officer to now working
Speaker 1: in private investigation. And I'm sure just around these offices alone,
Speaker 1: you've seen a lot, You've done a lot, you smelled
Speaker 1: a lot. Where do we start?
Speaker 3: I've been here six years?
Speaker 4: Can you believe that you've been here longer than me?
Speaker 3: Where's the time going? What well, the police officer. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I started. Now I'm going to show you my age
Speaker 3: nineteen ninety four.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 3: I started in the South Bronx by the Yankee Stadium area,
Speaker 3: the forty fourth precinct, A rough area, A good place
Speaker 3: to start that you really want to learn policing. I mean,
Speaker 3: you're gonna get your cherry popped right away.
Speaker 1: What made you want to become a police officer? Because
Speaker 1: I feel like things are very different now. So in
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety four, what was the allure?
Speaker 3: You know? The truth? I did have. That show Cops
Speaker 3: was popular in the late eighties watching.
Speaker 1: That, But truth you wanted to wrest a bunch of
Speaker 1: people without their shirts on.
Speaker 3: Yeah, now that's true. Growing up for me was more
Speaker 3: like take every civil service exam and see who calls you.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 3: So I was very happy the NYPD called me and
Speaker 3: I made a twenty five year career out of it.
Speaker 3: I got into private security halfway there. I did it
Speaker 3: on the side, and after my journey with the MYPD,
Speaker 3: I opened up my own private investigation protection business.
Speaker 1: And how's that been going?
Speaker 3: Excellent?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know you did security at my art show.
Speaker 3: That's true, and you guys, I was on one of
Speaker 3: my more exciting events. That was great. That was so fun.
Speaker 1: I'm glad you had a good time. We had a
Speaker 1: good time too. So it was very chaotic, there were
Speaker 1: so many people, but it was awesome.
Speaker 3: You rallied through. You did it.
Speaker 1: Come to work the next day, baby, this is how
Speaker 1: we do it morning. Yeah. Chris by the way is
Speaker 1: definitely our dude because he will warn us if there's
Speaker 1: something sketchy going on outside. He will walk us to
Speaker 1: and from our cars. He's always looking out for us,
Speaker 1: and we love you for that.
Speaker 4: So thanks my pleasure.
Speaker 1: But back to being a police officer in New York City.
Speaker 1: What are some of the craziest things that you have
Speaker 1: encountered and been part of?
Speaker 3: This story goes well in the bar with a glass
Speaker 3: of wine.
Speaker 1: This is your party story.
Speaker 3: This is my party. They're rated R version. I'm a
Speaker 3: rookie learning the job. I'm on training. So there's two
Speaker 3: veteran cops that have me in the backseat of the
Speaker 3: police car teaching me the job. I mean, this is
Speaker 3: literally my first week and they get a nine one
Speaker 3: one call. It's a four to twelve shift, so that's
Speaker 3: four to twelve midnight. It was the end of the night.
Speaker 3: And in those days, stay used to call it four
Speaker 3: to fours because you want to get out at midnight,
Speaker 3: but you want to go to the bar to four
Speaker 3: in the morning.
Speaker 4: Oh okay, so it's a four to four.
Speaker 3: The young guy's job, especially the night shift, it's more
Speaker 3: for the young single guys. Everybody wants to get out
Speaker 3: and go have a cocktail. So when the nine one
Speaker 3: one call comes in of a suspicious odor, oh god.
Speaker 3: The two veterans who know they went up, this ain't
Speaker 3: going to be good and it's in the shift, so
Speaker 3: it's going to be yours, rookie, because we're going out.
Speaker 3: So we go up this walk up building where the
Speaker 3: call was. It's like the second floor of a foul
Speaker 3: odor inside of the apartment. Knock on the door, nobody's answering.
Speaker 3: You can hear TV blasting inside the apartment. So I go. Well.
Speaker 3: The procedure by the police academy is called emergency service.
Speaker 3: They're like the swat guys for the NYPD. They come
Speaker 3: in with a battering ram and they'll break the door.
Speaker 3: They laugh and say, now that don't work here, kid,
Speaker 3: You're not in the academy, and we're in the streets,
Speaker 3: knock on a neighbor's door. Neighbors says, oh, it's a
Speaker 3: single lady that lives and there. We haven't seen in
Speaker 3: a while. We were the ones they called it's just
Speaker 3: the stench. Oh god, the stench.
Speaker 4: Was really bad.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's gonna get worse. So the veteran cops say,
Speaker 3: really easy, go up to the roof, walk down the
Speaker 3: fire skate so it's six stories, come down to the
Speaker 3: second floor, break the window, get in and unlock the door.
Speaker 3: We handle things our way. You know, we don't go
Speaker 3: outside resources. Welcome to the job, kid, breaking and entering.
Speaker 1: Let's figure this out.
Speaker 3: Basically, I go up to the roof. And here's the
Speaker 3: part I didn't tell you, Gandhi when I said I
Speaker 3: was taking every civil service exam, the only one I
Speaker 3: wouldn't take was the fire department because I'm scared of heights.
Speaker 1: Ah okay.
Speaker 3: Now I'm on this rooftop, huge building, like the Yankee Stadium, Ario,
Speaker 3: all those buildings, and I looked down and I'm like,
Speaker 3: oh no. I put one step on the fire scape
Speaker 3: and you could feel the fire scape moving and you
Speaker 3: could see the dust coming out of the screws like
Speaker 3: I'm so old. Yeahs.
Speaker 1: Then there's another stench because you shit yourself.
Speaker 3: Well, I got blotches, I discovered. I never knew this
Speaker 3: that I created blotches all over my neck. And I'm like,
Speaker 3: oh no, what a pussy. Battle through it. Walk down,
Speaker 3: Get to this kitchen window. Take my flashlight. Back in
Speaker 3: those days, they were big mag lights. Break the window.
Speaker 3: Try to open it. First, it wouldn't open, it was locked.
Speaker 3: Break the window. Climb in because at the end of
Speaker 3: the day, your job is to make sure somebody is
Speaker 3: not in need. So you got to get in there.
Speaker 3: And there's this little chuala and he's biting my caf
Speaker 3: come down in the kitchen and I hear the TV blasting.
Speaker 3: Happened to be the TV show Cheers. Okay, to this day,
Speaker 3: if I see Cheers, I'll always remember this story. The
Speaker 3: stench is so bad. What I did. I kept putting
Speaker 3: my nose in my armpit to smell my right card
Speaker 3: to try to get a relief. As I'm walking to the.
Speaker 4: Front door, I would have thrown really bad.
Speaker 3: It's really bad. Now, it's really really bad. And obviously
Speaker 3: this is a call that more than likely by the veterans.
Speaker 3: Was da dead on arrival, which is a summertime, which
Speaker 3: could be a really bad smell. But I see a
Speaker 3: corpse on the couch. Oh, and it has what looks
Speaker 3: appears to be a fetus, and the fetus has maggots. Ew,
Speaker 3: so tells me this is an old had to be
Speaker 3: there a few days.
Speaker 1: So my feet is do you mean that she had
Speaker 1: given birth or somebody ripped a baby out of her?
Speaker 3: The end of the investigation with the Emmy and the
Speaker 3: detective squads, Yes, she turned out she had a heart disease.
Speaker 3: She was alone and died giving birth right on her couch.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, horrible poor thing.
Speaker 1: Did you vomit?
Speaker 3: I didn't vomit, but I definitely up chucked. Whatever is that?
Speaker 3: How you say that?
Speaker 1: Oh like a little bit of the like in your mouth?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Correct? You tasted your dinner at seven people.
Speaker 4: That's gonna make me split piece soup.
Speaker 3: At this great Jewish deli on a hund sixty Yankee
Speaker 3: court court deli. I don't know if they're still there.
Speaker 1: Did it ruin the split peace soup?
Speaker 3: For yeah? Oh it the split piece soup and cheers?
Speaker 1: Never again.
Speaker 3: I don't know if you're ever going to get me
Speaker 3: to watch it out and watched tears and.
Speaker 1: That's just one of I'm sure many things to say.
Speaker 3: You're correct, it was twenty five years of this and
Speaker 3: that particular body. By the way, the arm was missing.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, she didn't have an arm.
Speaker 1: And how's that?
Speaker 3: It was so rigmortous that under the couch the dog
Speaker 3: had her arm.
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, yeah, wait the chihuahua.
Speaker 4: Correct, so are nasty workman?
Speaker 3: Her arm fell off. I know the dog pulled it
Speaker 3: off because of how deceased the Bible was and it
Speaker 3: was under the couch. Had to watch on it. You
Speaker 3: never forget that image and the dog was playing with it.
Speaker 1: And this is your I tell this story at a
Speaker 1: bar story. Oh yeah, and people love it.
Speaker 3: This could be a killer You just got to know
Speaker 3: it's a killer story.
Speaker 1: I have to say. I know my audience a little bit,
Speaker 1: and I think they're going to have really I can't
Speaker 1: say enjoy it because it's disturbing, but we'll be interested
Speaker 1: in it. How about that?
Speaker 3: That's fine.
Speaker 1: As a police officer in the nineties into the two thousands,
Speaker 1: what is the most common that you see here in
Speaker 1: the city?
Speaker 3: Assaults, domestic was. Yeah, it was one of your heaviest
Speaker 3: I used to say Cupid's bad arrow maybe, But there
Speaker 3: was a lot of domestic halls, a lot of disputes,
Speaker 3: neighbor disputes. Obviously, with all these buildings in all these boroughs,
Speaker 3: neighborly dispute is just like every five minutes. Well, I'm
Speaker 3: calling nine one one on you. Two people can't get along,
Speaker 3: and I'm gonna call nine one. I'm gonna call namb one.
Speaker 3: We're gonna call nine one one. Then your big crimes
Speaker 3: like felonies of assaults with injury.
Speaker 1: Now, shootings and stabbings. Shootings in the city at least
Speaker 1: now are not as high as other people would assume
Speaker 1: that they would be for New York City, right, because
Speaker 1: it's hard to get a gun here. Am I wrong
Speaker 1: about this? Or am I right about this?
Speaker 3: Yeah? It depends. I mean, if you have the resources
Speaker 3: like a gang banger, and guy, really I do, really,
Speaker 3: you go the gang banger. They have those resources and
Speaker 3: a lot of it comes from the South. It's a
Speaker 3: big thing of course, driving down there and you know
Speaker 3: there is plenty of guns. But you're right, the common person,
Speaker 3: the resource of just getting a firearm, I would imagine
Speaker 3: it is difficult.
Speaker 1: So let's talk about the city. Now, we all know
Speaker 1: the city has definitely changed. The pandemic, a lot of
Speaker 1: stuff got weird. People were let out of jail. Bail
Speaker 1: reform has been would we call it bail reform? Yeah?
Speaker 1: How do you feel about this city right now?
Speaker 3: It's it's tough. It has changed. I'm certainly one hundred
Speaker 3: percent proof because I have a security business and a
Speaker 3: lot of my clients are now hiring me just to
Speaker 3: protect their homes in the city because of the changes
Speaker 3: on their blocks. It could just be as simple as
Speaker 3: drug users or somebody who uses their front stairs or
Speaker 3: underneath their brownstone as a porter party. Oh, being a
Speaker 3: New Yorker, you know, born and raised here, my issues
Speaker 3: to quality alife. There's a policy where you can't really
Speaker 3: police that right now, the urine eating and you know,
Speaker 3: all the little petty things that sounds like it's nonsense,
Speaker 3: and you definitely they definitely had to do something about it.
Speaker 3: I mean, you can't just flood the system with quality
Speaker 3: of life. But now now it seems like it went
Speaker 3: too far the other way.
Speaker 1: So being someone on the inside of all of this,
Speaker 1: do you think that there is a fix. What is
Speaker 1: the solution? Because they're right, you can't flood the prisons,
Speaker 1: But what.
Speaker 3: Do you do? Great question, and I truthfully have to
Speaker 3: say I don't know. Part of it is younger cops.
Speaker 3: I think is good because if you have older cops
Speaker 3: like myself, where you've been on the job during the
Speaker 3: days of you can lock them up and that's it
Speaker 3: and let the courts deal with it. Those guys are
Speaker 3: burnt out because the new way, you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: you need a young mind, You need a nice young
Speaker 3: guy to come in and have to know how to
Speaker 3: deal with this more. I would say with honey.
Speaker 1: Absolutely though I mean I clearly am not a politician.
Speaker 1: I don't know how the money works. But it would
Speaker 1: seem as though a lot of these people who were
Speaker 1: let out of jail, prison, whatever it was, have mental
Speaker 1: issues and there needs to be some sort of mental
Speaker 1: help and a facility for people who do not have jobs,
Speaker 1: who are homeless, who are on the street, who are
Speaker 1: the people shitting underneathone's brownstone or pissing on the side
Speaker 1: of the road.
Speaker 3: That's a great, good point. I would have disagreed a
Speaker 3: few years ago. I would have said, no, that's bullshit,
Speaker 3: and you commit the crime. That's it. You gotta you know,
Speaker 3: doing what I do now to security at against somebody's blocks.
Speaker 3: And let's face it, the truth of the matter is
Speaker 3: the blocks I'm doing are people that probably are a
Speaker 3: little more privileged because they could afford secure Of course,
Speaker 3: my daughter says that all the time. Who has crippling anxiety?
Speaker 3: She goes, Oh, god, Dad, I wish I had one
Speaker 3: hundred dollars an hour to pay some guy to stand
Speaker 3: in front of my house all day, I would sleep amazing.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah.
Speaker 3: But the truth of the matter is there's a guy
Speaker 3: I dealt with, and what I tried to do. If
Speaker 3: I have a situation where there's a reoccurring event of
Speaker 3: somebody annoying the neighborhood, I do try to get to
Speaker 3: know him. It's the best way because I can't go
Speaker 3: to the distation attorney. I can't go to that local priest.
Speaker 3: And if I walk into the priests and say, hey,
Speaker 3: this guy's shitting on the street, they're gonna laugh at
Speaker 3: me too bad. So I can't physically harm them, nor
Speaker 3: would I. So the one or two cases I had,
Speaker 3: I mean, these guys are just mentally ill, and they
Speaker 3: really are. I don't think they wake up in the
Speaker 3: morning and say I just want to hang out, run
Speaker 3: up and down the block and do drugs and use
Speaker 3: it as a bathroom. So I don't know the answer
Speaker 3: on how do we get this taken care of? It's
Speaker 3: it's good, it's gonna be tough.
Speaker 1: Well, it's a good thing that you are a retired
Speaker 1: police officer now, so you don't have to worry about that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well that's it. That's right.
Speaker 1: It's crazy thinking that you're retired too, because when I
Speaker 1: hear retired, I think somebody who's like in their sixties
Speaker 1: maybe seventies, and you're obviously too young for that.
Speaker 3: But okay, fight apartment. You get to do twenty years
Speaker 3: and get out not anymore, and now it's more but
Speaker 3: my day, So you're right. I retired at forty eight
Speaker 3: forty seven and a half years old. People are like,
Speaker 3: you can't retire. Funny. I thought I could live in
Speaker 3: golf for the rest of my life on my New
Speaker 3: York City police pension. How's that That only lasted about
Speaker 3: a year, And I really that ain't happening. Okay, you
Speaker 3: got to go out and get a second living.
Speaker 1: Word to the wise. Now let's talk about your second living. Yes,
Speaker 1: now you are a private investigator. Yes, now you get
Speaker 1: to see all the juicy stuff. And in my head
Speaker 1: when I think private investigator, I think somebody sitting in
Speaker 1: their car with a hat and glasses, following cheaters around.
Speaker 1: What is the majority of.
Speaker 3: Your work, magnum p I right, the Hollywood part of
Speaker 3: get to travel around and drive a Ferrari. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 3: that's that's not happening.
Speaker 1: Because who would notice a Ferrari?
Speaker 3: Following there is a lot of domestic and the biggest
Speaker 3: thing with domestic first, when you get a call from
Speaker 3: a client, I really tend to just only do it
Speaker 3: if I get a call from an attorney. If I'm
Speaker 3: not dealing with an attorney, then it's like, well wait,
Speaker 3: I'm not just going to find out something and give
Speaker 3: you the information. I don't know what you're gonna do.
Speaker 3: You I kill the person. So I like to a
Speaker 3: good private eye or a smart private eye usually just
Speaker 3: wants to deal with an attorney for like a divorce case.
Speaker 3: And in New York State there is no such thing
Speaker 3: as adultery. It's not going to work for court. No,
Speaker 3: it's just a moral thing. Maybe there's kids involved, Maybe
Speaker 3: mom wants to say your dad was a cheater, or
Speaker 3: wants to say your mom was a cheater. Because it's
Speaker 3: going to get ugly now. And this is why. There's
Speaker 3: a lot of reasons why. And let's face it, you
Speaker 3: want to know the other jobs. Occasional insurance jobs are big.
Speaker 3: I've worked out with people filming them. They had no idea.
Speaker 3: I have like hidden body cameras and they're not supposed
Speaker 3: to be in the gym working out.
Speaker 1: Oh, because they're like disabled or there's something horrible that
Speaker 1: has caused a workman's comp injury.
Speaker 3: Oh. I have insurance companies that reach out to me
Speaker 3: and I'll join the gym for a month and I'll
Speaker 3: walk in literally say hey, can I work in with you?
Speaker 3: We're both lifting weights and you're getting video.
Speaker 1: I didn't know insurance companies did that. This explains where
Speaker 1: all the money's going.
Speaker 3: There's all it's workmen's comp. This comp is big, so interesting.
Speaker 1: So do any of the people that you're investigating find
Speaker 1: out that you are investigating?
Speaker 3: Yeah, usually it's funny. I always think that too. I
Speaker 3: had an adultry case. Here's one and I yeah, this
Speaker 3: is a here. This is a good one with changing
Speaker 3: everything because I assure you discreet, I will never ever
Speaker 3: give up any kind or speak about any client. But
Speaker 3: this was the attorney reached out to me to find
Speaker 3: this couple that was dating, and it was for the husband.
Speaker 3: The husband's attorney said, my wife, you know, to find
Speaker 3: his wife out on a date. So we had a
Speaker 3: night on the town and they had a concert in
Speaker 3: Lower Manhattan, one of these small venues which she wasn't
Speaker 3: aware of. The iPhone but she didn't know is married
Speaker 3: to the iPad.
Speaker 1: I feel like that happens so much.
Speaker 3: Out there. Clean your shit up. Your iPad might be
Speaker 3: saying everything your iPhone. Those I get that a lot,
Speaker 3: at least at least three occasions when they get hit
Speaker 3: with that. If however, they do it like aha, look
Speaker 3: at what we got. I always think back, like the
Speaker 3: expression of their faces. It's got to be horrible.
Speaker 1: It's got to be I mean, could you imagine, have
Speaker 1: you so you've never had somebody figure out that it
Speaker 1: was you and then confront you about it later during
Speaker 1: you try.
Speaker 3: To be a mystery person. Get some shots. And that's
Speaker 3: why better people that taught me this job try to
Speaker 3: deal with like a third party attorney, have no point
Speaker 3: of contact in and out. Now, if you came to
Speaker 3: me and said, hey, my boyfriend's cheating on me. My
Speaker 3: husband's cheating on me. I live with him, no lawyer's involved.
Speaker 3: I just want to know. I personally, I would recommend
Speaker 3: somebody for you. It'll take your money. I don't want
Speaker 3: to get involved in that because I don't know what
Speaker 3: you're going to do if I come back and give
Speaker 3: you all the footage.
Speaker 1: I bet I. So I have a theory about cheating,
Speaker 1: going through phones, hiring investigators. I think once it gets
Speaker 1: to that point where you feel the need to pick
Speaker 1: up somebody's phone and go through it, it's over. Just
Speaker 1: call it thank you, Because even if I'm the type
Speaker 1: of person, you can never prove a negative right. You
Speaker 1: can never prove something did not happen. You can only
Speaker 1: ever prove that it did happen. So just because you
Speaker 1: don't find something, in my head, if you come back
Speaker 1: and you're like, listen and I follow this person around,
Speaker 1: I never found anything, then I'm thinking, Okay, it doesn't
Speaker 1: mean it didn't happen. You just didn't find anything.
Speaker 3: That's right.
Speaker 1: The trust is gone at that point, it's broken. Just
Speaker 1: move on. There's something wrong, whether it's the whether it's
Speaker 1: to you, whether it's the two of you together. Once
Speaker 1: you get to that point, I just can't imagine ever.
Speaker 3: Actually I have a GPS. Now that's also very interesting.
Speaker 3: You can't just legally GPS. There's a whole system on
Speaker 3: how you have to do that on somebody's car.
Speaker 1: Oh really? Yes, I've watched a lot of Breaking Bad.
Speaker 3: Are you sure that's it? Breaking Back the Chicken Polo places?
Speaker 3: Putting it on Walter, that's it because of that episode.
Speaker 3: I have so many friends with Kai Bardi GPS you have.
Speaker 3: I just want to see where my girl is going.
Speaker 3: I want the tracker if you're feeling that way like
Speaker 3: and then I come from the maybe the old school,
Speaker 3: and don't want to say I'm tougher, but I don't
Speaker 3: want to know. No happy I'm in my relationship. I'm happy,
Speaker 3: we're happy. If that's something that's going on, I don't
Speaker 3: want to investigate. If it's I'm gonna know if you're
Speaker 3: really gonna do it throughout our relationship. I think I'm
Speaker 3: gonna see some tail signs.
Speaker 1: So that was gonna be my question. How does this
Speaker 1: translate into your personal life. Are you constantly looking around
Speaker 1: and observing things, or do you try to keep them
Speaker 1: separate and say, yeah, I'm not gonna poke around. I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna live this separate life.
Speaker 3: It never ever affects me. I actually look at it.
Speaker 1: Like, because you're married, right right, I'm.
Speaker 3: Married a long time. We were like high school sweethearts,
Speaker 3: so yeah, we're at that point. I think now my
Speaker 3: wife actually, long as her bills are paid, she would
Speaker 3: just throw me out of house. Marriage long marriage. As
Speaker 3: you get older, there's less and less people checking you out.
Speaker 1: I don't know about that, all right, all right, my
Speaker 1: boyfriend and I will I can't even say argue. But
Speaker 1: I'm not jealous at all. I just think, oh, I
Speaker 1: think you're cute, so I assume other people are gonna
Speaker 1: think you're cute. And we were at a resort not
Speaker 1: too long ago, and this woman swam up to him
Speaker 1: and I was standing right next to him, and she
Speaker 1: starts going on and on about he's handsome and look
Speaker 1: at these tattoos, asking about.
Speaker 3: I met him at the tattoo gallery. He's a handsome.
Speaker 3: He's a handsome boy.
Speaker 1: Pain in my ass, But you know, this woman's talking
Speaker 1: to him. So I just swam away because I was like,
Speaker 1: you know what, and go ahead do your thing. She
Speaker 1: saw me standing here. She gives no fucks, so I'm
Speaker 1: not your security. So I just swam off and let
Speaker 1: them finish talking. And he said, how could you do that?
Speaker 1: I can't believe you would just leave me there. First
Speaker 1: of all, you're a grown man. You can take care
Speaker 1: of yourself with this woman. But I didn't want to
Speaker 1: be the person in their cod blocking and it's hot, thanks.
Speaker 3: It's a turn on, a turn off. And I have
Speaker 3: one an older school, high school sweet art type wife
Speaker 3: where she would look at me in the background shaking
Speaker 3: her head like nice. As I'm engaged in the conversation
Speaker 3: where I'm like, all right, can we do this later.
Speaker 3: It's like way to Rockey.
Speaker 1: I don't even care if people are flirting. I think
Speaker 1: go ahead, have fun, enjoy yourself. We'll see where you
Speaker 1: go this evening.
Speaker 3: I'm flirty, you are flirt with It's it's just more
Speaker 3: good energy, right. You just know the level. I know
Speaker 3: the level. It ends at the bottom.
Speaker 1: So, speaking of that level working in private investigation, is
Speaker 1: there a common thread that you notice before you actually
Speaker 1: catch someone in the act a behavior that you're like, yeah,
Speaker 1: they're cheating.
Speaker 3: Ah, yeah, what is it? Yeah?
Speaker 4: Two cell phones phones is without a doubt.
Speaker 3: You know, if you, if you, if you're significant other
Speaker 3: has two cell phones and it's not a work phone.
Speaker 3: But then again, it can be a work phone. They
Speaker 3: can utilize it. Yep, two cell phones is. I'll say
Speaker 3: half the time, let's not because now I'm going to
Speaker 3: start fights with all these people that two cell phones.
Speaker 3: Two cell phones is one after dinner disappearing. If I
Speaker 3: gotta take a ride, I gotta run out and get
Speaker 3: something from the store, I forgot something that usually could
Speaker 3: be that, like I got to make that quick phone call. Hey,
Speaker 3: you know what's going on the.
Speaker 1: Majority of your clients are they men? Are they women?
Speaker 1: Or is it split?
Speaker 3: You know, it's it's it was in the beginning when
Speaker 3: I started this. Obviously it's more men, but it's women
Speaker 3: are catching up. Yeah, yeah, they're they're coming around, they're
Speaker 3: coming around.
Speaker 1: Wait, so the clients are men or the clients are women?
Speaker 3: Are more female clients catching the men? But that has changed? Really? Yeah?
Speaker 1: That do you think it's because women are getting stupid
Speaker 1: or they're cheating?
Speaker 3: I have my theory. I think tell us, Bravo, okay,
Speaker 3: TV shows women see moore of being exposed Internet just
Speaker 3: more of that kind of gossip type. And then they're like,
Speaker 3: you know what, I do like that guy in the gym,
Speaker 3: he is cute. You know what, I'm gonna live my
Speaker 3: best life?
Speaker 1: Or so you think social media has made people TV
Speaker 1: and social media has made people more apt to cheat.
Speaker 4: Sure, Now let me ask you this, Chris.
Speaker 1: You have two daughters to their adults. Yes, they're dating. Yes,
Speaker 1: you meet the dude they're dating, or the girl they're dating,
Speaker 1: whatever it is. You don't do some snooping. Come on, man, So.
Speaker 3: This is funny. I'm meeting my daughter, my older it's
Speaker 3: their name's Jessica. She's gonna be twenty five, meeting her
Speaker 3: boyfriend for the first time this Friday. She's been dating
Speaker 3: him for a few months and now it's time to
Speaker 3: But how do I say a confession I have when
Speaker 3: we're on air?
Speaker 1: But go ahead, I run them, Yes, as you should.
Speaker 1: I want to run them. And I'm not even a cop.
Speaker 1: I don't know how you don't do it.
Speaker 3: Love clients to come to me and they want a
Speaker 3: general comprehensive run and people go, that's horrible. No, it
Speaker 3: ain't fuck that. Why would you want to know about
Speaker 3: some I want to know his probably work history. Yes,
Speaker 3: I want to know if he was arrested.
Speaker 1: Credit score and I wouldn't and I'd.
Speaker 3: Have no problem credit score. Leans, that's right. I want
Speaker 3: to know everything about this person. So yeah, that answers
Speaker 3: that for sure.
Speaker 1: Okay, So let me ask you, this got a lot
Speaker 1: of interesting personalities in this building. You run them.
Speaker 3: I have not run anybody in.
Speaker 1: This You haven't. I don't even believe that. I don't
Speaker 1: even believe that for a second.
Speaker 3: I have not run anybody in this building.
Speaker 1: I would never do that. There have to be some
Speaker 1: interesting people around here doing some interesting shit. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: you're not allowed to talk about.
Speaker 3: It, are you? No? No? But yeah, it's a colorful building,
Speaker 3: that's for sure.
Speaker 1: I bet it is.
Speaker 3: We have all shapes and sizes as far as.
Speaker 1: The colorful Okay, can you say this, as far as
Speaker 1: the colorful people go? Right, which station gives you the
Speaker 1: most to deal with? I think I know it?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 1: But which? Because you only walk you know certain people
Speaker 1: out of this building?
Speaker 3: Right? Right? Well? Right? Power definitely has more people looking
Speaker 3: to get with them. We've had that from time to time.
Speaker 1: Well, they're also a lot more controversial. There you go,
Speaker 1: they're out there, they start shit. We don't really start
Speaker 1: shit over here.
Speaker 3: WR. I've had three Oh yeah, they start too here
Speaker 3: you go. I've had three cases with WOLR. We had
Speaker 3: to do again power in WLR. We had to do
Speaker 3: a super like get a whole team out here and
Speaker 3: just beyond high alert.
Speaker 1: What's the craziest thing you've seen happen around here?
Speaker 3: We had a guy in Tribeca who came by looking
Speaker 3: for one of our talent, and he was out here
Speaker 3: at four o'clock in the morning. So that alone alarms
Speaker 3: me because that's motivation.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, you're up early waiting.
Speaker 3: That shows some good motivation. We asked him if he
Speaker 3: needed anything. The security at the front desk. You know,
Speaker 3: it's a suit. We call that a suit because it
Speaker 3: shows the first sign of authority. You got a suit
Speaker 3: on the lobby security. Hi, is there anything I can
Speaker 3: help you with? Because he's standing right at the window
Speaker 3: and it's four o'clock.
Speaker 1: In These guys are the first ones out.
Speaker 3: There twenty four hours. So the guy on the midnight
Speaker 3: shift would be the one that will alert me.
Speaker 1: Oh for Anthony, here you go.
Speaker 3: And this was at this time was in Tribeca, which
Speaker 3: was Steve Sure And Anthony, by the way, is amazing,
Speaker 3: he really is.
Speaker 1: He was great too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was funny. I got a call from Anthony
Speaker 3: this morning for something like he's just so good. They're great.
Speaker 3: The guy said to the overnight security guy at four
Speaker 3: o'clock in the morning, Fuck you, free country. I'm out here.
Speaker 3: Don't tell me what I got to do. Mind you business.
Speaker 3: Then I have to roll up and again just stand here.
Speaker 3: And now I'm not going to engage with him, because
Speaker 3: He's right, it's a free country. You could stand in
Speaker 3: front of a building at four o'clock in the morning.
Speaker 3: So now the job details where I have to stand
Speaker 3: there to try not to make it like I'm watching him,
Speaker 3: but I'm watching him to wait to see. As far
Speaker 3: as our procedures, we will just have talents stay home
Speaker 3: that day, really work from home.
Speaker 1: There you go. There are so many times, because you know,
Speaker 1: we all walk in from different places all the time,
Speaker 1: so you never even know where somebody's coming from, or
Speaker 1: if they're coming up through the basement whatever. But every
Speaker 1: now and then at the old building would see somebody
Speaker 1: looking outside and we would just walk by and be like, hey, Steve,
Speaker 1: I think someone's here for Charlotta Magne. This is always like,
Speaker 1: I know you said some shit yesterday and here yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: here it goes.
Speaker 3: I love it.
Speaker 1: That's funny. So nothing nothing too crazy with the people here.
Speaker 1: And if it was, you wouldn't even be able to
Speaker 1: tell me anyway. That's right, we'll talk off the air, Chris,
Speaker 1: what about celebrities like you have to again? I know
Speaker 1: you are Yeah, you can't see that because this is
Speaker 1: a podcast, but Chris has a big old grint on
Speaker 1: his face. I will find out. But I can't tell
Speaker 1: you how about celebrities because I know that you've done
Speaker 1: with deal dealt with a lot of them. Yeah, yes,
Speaker 1: without using a name. Are you allowed to say some
Speaker 1: crazy things that you have seen within the celebrity world,
Speaker 1: like a page six type of thing.
Speaker 4: Sure, blind item.
Speaker 3: Right, blind item? Celebrities. Uh. Even my experience in the
Speaker 3: police department before I was doing private security, we caught
Speaker 3: one celebrity in the meat past area, which is in
Speaker 3: Lower Manhattan, performing oral sex on the prostitute. Oh a
Speaker 3: male prostitute.
Speaker 1: Fascinating.
Speaker 3: Yeah, in his suv with his driver was out getting coffee.
Speaker 1: So that was quick.
Speaker 3: My thing is like, you got all this money in
Speaker 3: the world, get a room. Another one was fun was
Speaker 3: I was called at the Ritz Calton on Central Park
Speaker 3: back with a certain celebrity. You can guess it. I'll
Speaker 3: shake my head. I didn't work for him, so I
Speaker 3: didn't sign to an NDA so I could say it
Speaker 3: during the Was it Denise.
Speaker 1: Richardson Charlie Sheena?
Speaker 3: That incident was an incident of like an assault. Charlie
Speaker 3: Sheen had an issue in a hotel room. I wasn't working,
Speaker 3: but the manager told me, you know he was at
Speaker 3: There was nine one one calls. Yeah, and then there
Speaker 3: was a celebrity who loved prostitution coming to his room.
Speaker 3: He would stay, of course I can't say his name.
Speaker 3: He would hire security and he would rent the whole
Speaker 3: floor just so nobody else was up there and just
Speaker 3: have escorts come like all weekend. And that was Central
Speaker 3: Park Hotel.
Speaker 1: Sounds like a party.
Speaker 3: It's a party.
Speaker 1: Speaking about NDAs, I have some questions about this. So
Speaker 1: with a lot of the Diddy and Cassie stuff that
Speaker 1: we have seen when it comes to an NDA, even
Speaker 1: take him out of it. Just in general, when it
Speaker 1: comes to an NDA. How protected is somebody by an
Speaker 1: NDA if they're committing a crime, Like, are you never
Speaker 1: supposed to talk about it? Do you get in trouble
Speaker 1: if you blow the whistle on somebody because they're doing
Speaker 1: something horrible and you've signed an NDA.
Speaker 3: I mean the legal answer to that is if you're
Speaker 3: subpoena or authorities are questioning you, now the NDA's out.
Speaker 3: If it's the commission of a crime, you're not sup
Speaker 3: If you're professional, I'm not going to go to a
Speaker 3: barbecue and say I was just out with so and so,
Speaker 3: because it's just going to get out and it comes
Speaker 3: back to me and then I'm not going to get
Speaker 3: work right. So I'm going to assure you so discreet
Speaker 3: any of my clients. So if it's in a commission
Speaker 3: of a crime and now you're working with the authorities,
Speaker 3: you're gonna you're not gonna get sued. You still might
Speaker 3: get sued, but you're gonna win.
Speaker 1: Now, what if the authorities don't come to me but
Speaker 1: say I sign an NDA and I'm out partying with
Speaker 1: We'll say Diddy because he's the one that's all over
Speaker 1: the news. Right now, I sign an NDA. I'm hanging
Speaker 1: out with him. I see him commit a crime. Right
Speaker 1: Nobody has come to me and asked me did this happen.
Speaker 1: I go to the authorities and say, hey, I saw
Speaker 1: this happen. Do I get in trouble.
Speaker 3: By the NDA standards? Now you'll win that you will.
Speaker 3: He could still make your life miserable and ssue you,
Speaker 3: bring you into depositions in court paid attorney, so he
Speaker 3: could still make your life a pain in the ass
Speaker 3: because you're gonna have the lawyer up and now it's
Speaker 3: going to hit your pocket. But in the end, there's
Speaker 3: nobody gonna find you guilty for that, because it's the
Speaker 3: moral of the right thing to do. It's a crime.
Speaker 1: Because I'm just wondering, you know how so many people
Speaker 1: now are coming forward and saying, oh, we knew this,
Speaker 1: we saw this, it was all going on, but you
Speaker 1: didn't have shit to say. Then now you have a
Speaker 1: bunch to say. And I feel like it's not the
Speaker 1: flex people think it is.
Speaker 3: I think it's the domino effect on the on the
Speaker 3: one side of it, where let's say it did happen,
Speaker 3: what these people are saying. I think it's the ritual.
Speaker 3: You always need a leader, You always need that one
Speaker 3: person to come out, kind of like in the classroom,
Speaker 3: we all wanted to say something, nobody wouldn't. Then the
Speaker 3: one kid say, speaks his mind, Now we all want
Speaker 3: to talk. I think there's that, and then I think
Speaker 3: there's people, of course capitalizing on sure nonsense.
Speaker 1: There's a little bit of cloud chasing, for sure, But
Speaker 1: I'm getting a little irritated at some of these celebrities
Speaker 1: who are like, oh, we knew that we been knew that,
Speaker 1: we knew that it had happened, blah blah blah. Well
Speaker 1: where the fuck were you?
Speaker 3: Then?
Speaker 1: Why did you say anything?
Speaker 3: Then why didn't you want to do the right thing? Yeah,
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, that's that's the problem in this
Speaker 3: world is everybody just kind of has the shuggers on.
Speaker 3: They do know a lot of bad things going on,
Speaker 3: nobody wants to get involved.
Speaker 1: Do you ever have to do security detail for somebody
Speaker 1: that while you guys are doing it, you're like, you know,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't really hate it if you accidentally got punched
Speaker 1: in the face by someone because you're so terrible. Absolutely, Yes,
Speaker 1: who Chris who.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you wouldn't lose sleep, that's for sure if it happened.
Speaker 3: But the job is to protect them, Yeah, the fullest.
Speaker 3: So you're going to make sure that doesn't happen. But yeah,
Speaker 3: and nine out of ten, it's always good. It's quick
Speaker 3: in and out, get him safe for tonight. It's an
Speaker 3: honor if I'm known at one of many former cops
Speaker 3: as the New York City connection for who's coming in
Speaker 3: from La Miami. We need a guy biggest human beings
Speaker 3: if we need that kind of job, or just again
Speaker 3: the guy that just keeps you out.
Speaker 1: Of trouble, you're gonna have to hire you for some
Speaker 1: more things.
Speaker 3: You get the friends and family right there.
Speaker 1: Hey, and you guys are great, and you always treat
Speaker 1: us well and always be nice to the security because
Speaker 1: they're the ones that are going to help you.
Speaker 4: Smile, not give me a shake, be happy.
Speaker 3: I sure you your accounter won't be as bad.
Speaker 1: That's a good. So okay, let's talk about that. Give
Speaker 1: us tips to make an encounter with a police officer
Speaker 1: less shitty, because, let me tell you, scary does something
Speaker 1: that I don't agree with at all. But as soon
Speaker 1: as he gets pulled over. He just immediately starts dropping.
Speaker 1: I'm on the radio on the Elvis stor In Morning show.
Speaker 1: I'm on the radio.
Speaker 3: I'm like, do you know who I am?
Speaker 1: Yes? Yes, which I always say. If you have to
Speaker 1: say do you know who I am? You lost because
Speaker 1: either they know and they don't give a shit, or
Speaker 1: they don't know and they don't give a shit, And
Speaker 1: now you're just sitting here looking like an idiot. Like
Speaker 1: in the history of do you Know Who I Am?
Speaker 3: Does it ever work nowadays? Remember the cop is on camera,
Speaker 3: so anything you say is going to be on his camera.
Speaker 3: So you might not want too much because those cameras,
Speaker 3: even even the police camera, I'm sad to say, end
Speaker 3: up leaking out and end up on these TV shows. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I remember Reese Witherspoon getting pulled over for duy and
Speaker 1: she pulled a do you know who I Am?
Speaker 4: Thing?
Speaker 1: And it looked awful.
Speaker 3: A police encounter is public.
Speaker 1: I think it should be.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess yeah. I would be more like, I
Speaker 3: don't show that. What is that going to do? But
Speaker 3: they have to now show their side of what they encounter.
Speaker 3: You know, we've seen bad things on the other side.
Speaker 3: I'm not naive. We know that it happens. With that said,
Speaker 3: here's what I told my kids when they drove. When
Speaker 3: a cop, especially in the dark, gets out, he pulls
Speaker 3: you over on the traffic stop and he's walking to
Speaker 3: your car, I assure you he's as scared as you
Speaker 3: that first moment when he's walking to that car. He
Speaker 3: don't know what he's especially when there's multiple bodies like
Speaker 3: you and your friends are hanging out, you get pulled
Speaker 3: over this three heads that he sees as he's coming up.
Speaker 3: So my thing with my my own children was, well,
Speaker 3: I don't know this cop, and I don't know if
Speaker 3: he's a little bit of a loose cannon or had
Speaker 3: a bad day, or has a PI and his wife's
Speaker 3: cheating on him. I don't know what is coming to
Speaker 3: that car to engage with my children, and he does
Speaker 3: have a firearm. My theory is, listen to me, put
Speaker 3: the freaking light on, put your hands on the steering wheel,
Speaker 3: and just answer the questions. I'm very, very confident that
Speaker 3: he's there because of the traffic steps. I'm not making
Speaker 3: it now like I'm against the police, because I'm not.
Speaker 3: I'm a police officer, but I know safety, if you
Speaker 3: move the wrong way and it's dark, or just go
Speaker 3: forbit your friend does something stupid. You just never know.
Speaker 1: So let's say you do have a bad encounter with
Speaker 1: a police officer who was acting out of line, who
Speaker 1: did something he should or she should not have done. Okay,
Speaker 1: what is your recourse? How do people reford? What do
Speaker 1: you do?
Speaker 3: What I would do? I would shut up and let
Speaker 3: him win. He's gonna win on the scene, and lawyer
Speaker 3: up and have your day later.
Speaker 1: But even from that point, like say, okay, you win.
Speaker 1: Now you're searching my car illegally or for no reason,
Speaker 1: whatever it is is, or now you've physically harmed me,
Speaker 1: where do you go from there? Like, yes, you get
Speaker 1: a lawyer. What if you can't afford a lawyer? What's
Speaker 1: your first course of action?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 1: Who do you tell?
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, they have a whole process. There's like a
Speaker 3: civilian complaint. And at the moment at the scene, I
Speaker 3: would eat it. Yeah really, and I have. I've had,
Speaker 3: you know, an issue. I had an issue down south
Speaker 3: once when I was pulled over and I didn't agree
Speaker 3: with where it was going. But I ate it. I
Speaker 3: just ate it. You want to take a look and
Speaker 3: I just did because I'm just for that moment, live
Speaker 3: for that moment. You know it could be. I don't
Speaker 3: want it to become combative.
Speaker 1: It's really tough though, because you know, people are so
Speaker 1: scared now because you are seeing these videos of people
Speaker 1: who were complying, people who were not acting out of
Speaker 1: line to get the treatment that they then got. So
Speaker 1: it's it's a tough one.
Speaker 3: Especially Well, we were talking about short and we were
Speaker 3: talking about this before. Like the media, it's so much
Speaker 3: pounding the social media. If you just search it once,
Speaker 3: it's going to keep coming on your phone.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, they like the.
Speaker 3: Police department has so many great stories going on with
Speaker 3: their doing in the community. Especially again I said, this
Speaker 3: new way of policing I'm for with these young cops,
Speaker 3: cops and kids boxing softball, and it's not on that
Speaker 3: social media like that one.
Speaker 1: Well, police needs a better pr then that's where we
Speaker 1: need to fix it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, beat it up, Gandhi, get in there. I'll get
Speaker 3: you some resources.
Speaker 1: Let's go all right. I don't want to only highlight
Speaker 1: the bad shit that happens. I mean there is a lot.
Speaker 1: We know that there's a lot. I do want to
Speaker 1: highlight the good things that happen. And I do want
Speaker 1: to give people recourse if they feel helpless, because I
Speaker 1: think that that's a big part of what's really setting
Speaker 1: everybody off. Just in general. It feels like a powder
Speaker 1: keg right now, exactly. And I think it's because people
Speaker 1: feel helpless in so many different areas, whether it's how
Speaker 1: much money you're making, insurance companies, doctors' offices, dealing with
Speaker 1: police officers. People don't know where to go and what
Speaker 1: to do to actually affect change. And I think that
Speaker 1: that's what's really stressing a lot of people out. So
Speaker 1: if we can give them answers, I love it. If
Speaker 1: we can highlight the good, I'm always on board for that.
Speaker 3: I think it's great.
Speaker 1: So when you have these great stories or things that
Speaker 1: are happening community, Chris, you got to tell me yeah,
Speaker 1: so now I can talk about it.
Speaker 3: I love it. I will.
Speaker 1: Now you don't expect me to go do research, do you.
Speaker 3: I'll put you in touch with somebody I know in
Speaker 3: the NYPD with that they do a lot in the community.
Speaker 1: So Chris, you also, and I will wrap it up
Speaker 1: with this, You're not just a former police officer in
Speaker 1: our security and own a private investigation business. Yes, you
Speaker 1: also have a.
Speaker 4: Bar, Yes, a wine bar.
Speaker 3: Yes. My family, my brother and I, we have a
Speaker 3: wine bar in Bronxville, New York called Ernie's Wine Bar.
Speaker 1: Where's Bronxville, Bronxfield's in.
Speaker 3: Lower Lower Westchester. It's one of the first stops coming
Speaker 3: out of the city, out of the bronx What's called
Speaker 3: Ernie's Ernie's Wine Bar.
Speaker 1: So if you want to see Chris, are you there?
Speaker 3: Off it? I will always be there. Just just let
Speaker 3: me know who's coming ex for Chris and I'll get
Speaker 3: over there.
Speaker 1: Ernie's Wine Bar in Bronxville. Chris, our lovely security guard,
Speaker 1: and I think we can call you security guard, our
Speaker 1: lovely security security and private investigator. Chris.
Speaker 4: We love you, Thank you, thank you for having me.
Speaker 1: Of course, if people can people find you online or
Speaker 1: do you not want to drop that information?
Speaker 3: Oh sure, shoot me. Let's give you a few emails.
Speaker 1: Well you have a few emails. One he's got three
Speaker 1: phones for emails. Nothing he's doing is sketchy.
Speaker 3: Chris Consulting at gmail dot com.
Speaker 1: Chrisconsulting at gmail dot com. If you have some issues
Speaker 1: that you would like to be solved or looked at.
Speaker 1: That's how you get ahold of our Chris, and have
Speaker 1: your lawyer reach out to him. If you want to
Speaker 1: creep on a significant.
Speaker 3: Lawyer first please, I don't want no more anti domestic case.
Speaker 1: Good job, Thank you, Chris, thanks for joining us, Thanks
Speaker 1: for having me. Okay, pretty interesting. Chris has some things
Speaker 1: to say. I think I'm gonna have to talk to
Speaker 1: him off the air about some of the stuff he
Speaker 1: was being very hesitant about. But anyway, let's get to
Speaker 1: the other fun stuff because we need to get Andrew's
Speaker 1: ass in here, because, like I said, I want to
Speaker 1: burn him and we have to do and ask me anything.
Speaker 1: So please hold on one second, Andrew, can you come here?
Speaker 2: What he's such a victim's losing? H Well, go take
Speaker 2: the mic you deserve it today.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, there he goes. There he goes learn something.
Speaker 1: I'm out podcasting. Oh my god, he's gonna take out
Speaker 1: a whole computer. Look at him.
Speaker 5: Well, why would they put the arm of the computer
Speaker 5: where it could hit the computer? That's dumb.
Speaker 4: The computer hit the arm.
Speaker 1: Yes, this is a microphone.
Speaker 5: Yes, just what do you need?
Speaker 1: I'd like to burn you. Okay, do you have any
Speaker 1: idea why I want to burn you.
Speaker 5: Because of the podcast being spoken over.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he knows.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm not going to burn me. I'm gonna burn you.
Speaker 1: Wait, how are you going to burn me for that?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Hold on.
Speaker 1: So here's what happened. I had doctor Brad Schaeffer in
Speaker 1: for actually what I thought was a really good episode, Diamond,
Speaker 1: you were in there for it. What did you think? Amazing?
Speaker 1: Amazing episode? And we got to a lot of really
Speaker 1: cool things. You talked about all kinds of stuff, and
Speaker 1: we had people come in, like guests come in. But
Speaker 1: in the other studio recording what the hell were you recording?
Speaker 5: It was a boll chat.
Speaker 4: You were recording a.
Speaker 1: Bowl chat for the serial Killers. Yes, Andrew and a
Speaker 1: guy named Ben were in the other studio. We love Ben,
Speaker 1: He's very nice, like him a lot. Their entire podcast
Speaker 1: recorded on top of my entire podcast. So Doctor Brad
Speaker 1: was rendered unusable. But the serial Killer podcast just went
Speaker 1: on to do this fucking bold chat. I hate you
Speaker 1: for it? And why did I flame you?
Speaker 5: I guess maybe learn how to use the board and
Speaker 5: then it won't happen.
Speaker 1: Oh really, wait a minute, because I'm pretty sure that
Speaker 1: you had something in your side that you one didn't
Speaker 1: know how to shut off, and two had you known
Speaker 1: how to use the board, it would not have happened.
Speaker 5: Well, to be honest with you, I am terrified of
Speaker 5: the boards should because I am always afraid of them.
Speaker 5: I do not touch the board unless it is in
Speaker 5: studio I and I know how to use that because
Speaker 5: I have written out instructions of what too press to
Speaker 5: make it work. I never touch Elvis's board. I never
Speaker 5: touched Scotty's board because I did my impression. I swear
Speaker 5: on my life, I never touched it, and that was
Speaker 5: the problem. I didn't touch it because Scott's always like
Speaker 5: working radio, and I'm always under the impression that if
Speaker 5: I touch anything there, I could be on the radio
Speaker 5: at any second and shut everything down.
Speaker 1: Worse, destroy an hour long podcast.
Speaker 5: Well, I will say, I apologize.
Speaker 1: Well, this isn't fun. I don't want an apology. I
Speaker 1: want you to fight back.
Speaker 5: But then when I fight back, it's, oh, look at
Speaker 5: him playing the victim. Let's talk about that manipulation. I'm
Speaker 5: also so sorry I spit on your hat.
Speaker 1: Sorry that.
Speaker 5: I burn you.
Speaker 1: Okay, find Andrew, that was it? Whatever?
Speaker 5: Well, I'm sorry. I mean, if you want, like, I'll
Speaker 5: fight you for something else. So apologizing is not good.
Speaker 5: Now you're doing the thing. No, no, no, now, you
Speaker 5: the one always got his pangle in arms up.
Speaker 1: He did just he just whipped up a little panglin
Speaker 1: arms though. Did you see it? He went like this,
Speaker 1: You can't see what I'm doing, but it's kind of
Speaker 1: t rexy anyway. No, here's the problem.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 1: I always say this, if people just take accountability for
Speaker 1: what happened and say sorry, you have to move on.
Speaker 1: You can't keep sucking them up. I was hoping for
Speaker 1: a lie or a pivot or it's not my fault
Speaker 1: because I didn't get any of that. So when somebody
Speaker 1: just says like, oh I fucked up, let's move on,
Speaker 1: then you gotta move on. Boo.
Speaker 5: Sorry, did I just ruin your show once again? Okay?
Speaker 1: Oops, that's fine. We'll have doctor Brad back in because
Speaker 1: he's cool.
Speaker 5: Ok sorry again, Okay, bye.
Speaker 1: See that little voice? Fuck you?
Speaker 3: Hey, bye.
Speaker 1: Bye, Andrew.
Speaker 3: I have a great podcast.
Speaker 1: Okay, let's get to the ask me anything since Andrew
Speaker 1: just ruined it all. Mama Mony Cat no, Mama Monica.
Speaker 1: T oh maybe that.
Speaker 2: Okay, anyway, Mama, she wants to know where is your
Speaker 2: next vacation exotic destination.
Speaker 1: Ooh, that is a great question. Vacationing one of my
Speaker 1: favorite things to do. And as you hear this podcast,
Speaker 1: our show is currently on vacation, which means I am
Speaker 1: in Mexico with my boyfriend and a bunch of his
Speaker 1: friends and hopefully I'm having a good time. But who knows?
Speaker 1: These people are crazy? Well, I hope so what. There
Speaker 1: are two of his best friends from when he was
Speaker 1: in the military, and these dudes like tu Porta, and
Speaker 1: they're bringing their significant others and I don't really know
Speaker 1: any of them, so this is kind of gonna be
Speaker 1: my first time meeting them. Pray for me, Diamond, Pray
Speaker 1: for me. You're gonna have a good time. Are you
Speaker 1: a good time? I'm here? Why are you here?
Speaker 2: Because I couldn't plan a trip around this time because
Speaker 2: all of my friends are working, so I was like,
Speaker 2: I don't really know what to do. It's okay, don't
Speaker 2: worry about it.
Speaker 1: So you're just gonna be making money.
Speaker 3: Hello.
Speaker 1: You hear that sound? Diamond making money? It was very
Speaker 1: similar to your flame. Love it, okay? If they want
Speaker 1: to find you online, where do they find you?
Speaker 2: At Diamond Sincere and then on Twitter or x whatever
Speaker 2: at Diamond Sincere with an underscore.
Speaker 1: And I am at Baby Hot Sauce. Please feel free
Speaker 1: ask any questions like, subscribe, follow, leave a review, but
Speaker 1: only if you like us, and we'll be back next week,
Speaker 1: hopefully with the podcast. Andrew has not ruined. Okay, bye
Speaker 1: bye