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Speaker 1: Done, done, but i'm supposed to. I mean Andrew told

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Speaker 1: it was up fifteen Yeah, Episode seventy five, Hi, Episode

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Speaker 1: two hundred and thirty four. God, and I have some

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Speaker 1: ideas of stuff that I want to do. So, first

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Speaker 2: Ass, burn them.

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Speaker 1: Okay, he deserves it. Today we have one of our

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Speaker 1: security guys here at the office, Chris, Officer Chris. He's awesome.

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Speaker 1: He keeps us safe. You won't really see him, but

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Speaker 1: I will say he did come to my art show,

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Speaker 1: and he did bring a security team with him, none

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Speaker 1: But that's fine, really well, because here was the thing

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Speaker 1: I was like, you know what, Okay, there are X

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Speaker 2: I'm just trying to I'm recking my brain at this point.

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Speaker 2: I just remember those margarita's and yes.

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Speaker 1: Shout out to our boys at Gringoes and Jersey City

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Speaker 1: for providing the Margarita's and Tacos. Who right, We're gonna

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Speaker 2: Just no, I'm not paying you to do something I

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Speaker 1: But oh really, you're gonna show up. You're gonna just

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Speaker 2: Done that before. Oh twenty four hours is a long time.

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Speaker 1: I can't say, can't say that was it someone you

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Speaker 2: Oh what I've done it for my friends? You need me,

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Speaker 1: I've done some creepy stuff with friends before, and never

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Speaker 1: bring in Chris. Chris. Chris Chris. He is a former

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Speaker 3: Joining me, Thank you for having me?

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Speaker 1: Gandhi, are you nervous? Goodness? Should have been? You make

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Speaker 1: So I don't even know where I want to start

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Speaker 3: You know? The truth? I did have. That show Cops

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Speaker 3: Yeah, now that's true. Growing up for me was more

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Speaker 1: But back to being a police officer in New York City.

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Speaker 1: What are some of the craziest things that you have

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Speaker 3: This story goes well in the bar with a glass

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Speaker 1: Oh like a little bit of the like in your mouth?

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Speaker 4: That's gonna make me split piece soup.

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Speaker 1: That's just one of I'm sure many things to say.

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Speaker 3: You're correct, it was twenty five years of this and

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Speaker 3: It was so rigmortous that under the couch the dog

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Speaker 3: Her arm fell off. I know the dog pulled it

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Speaker 1: And this is your I tell this story at a

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Speaker 3: This could be a killer You just got to know

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Speaker 3: Assaults, domestic was. Yeah, it was one of your heaviest

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Speaker 3: neighbor disputes. Obviously, with all these buildings in all these boroughs,

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Speaker 1: Now, shootings and stabbings. Shootings in the city at least

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Speaker 1: So let's talk about the city. Now, we all know

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Speaker 1: How do you feel about this city right now?

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Speaker 3: It's it's tough. It has changed. I'm certainly one hundred

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Speaker 3: to quality alife. There's a policy where you can't really

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Speaker 3: and you definitely they definitely had to do something about it.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you can't just flood the system with quality

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Speaker 1: So being someone on the inside of all of this,

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Speaker 1: But what.

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Speaker 3: Do you do? Great question, and I truthfully have to

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Speaker 3: I think is good because if you have older cops

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Speaker 3: days of you can lock them up and that's it

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Speaker 3: and let the courts deal with it. Those guys are

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Speaker 3: you need a young mind, You need a nice young

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Speaker 3: deal with this more. I would say with honey.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely though I mean I clearly am not a politician.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how the money works. But it would

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Speaker 3: That's a great, good point. I would have disagreed a

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Speaker 3: and you commit the crime. That's it. You gotta you know,

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Speaker 3: And let's face it, the truth of the matter is

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Speaker 3: my daughter says that all the time. Who has crippling anxiety?

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah.

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Speaker 3: But the truth of the matter is there's a guy

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Speaker 3: I have a situation where there's a reoccurring event of

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Speaker 3: know him. It's the best way because I can't go

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Speaker 3: And if I walk into the priests and say, hey,

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Speaker 3: me too bad. So I can't physically harm them, nor

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Speaker 3: I mean, these guys are just mentally ill, and they

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Speaker 3: on how do we get this taken care of? It's

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Speaker 3: it's good, it's gonna be tough.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's a good thing that you are a retired

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well that's it. That's right.

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Speaker 1: It's crazy thinking that you're retired too, because when I

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Speaker 3: But okay, fight apartment. You get to do twenty years

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Speaker 3: York City police pension. How's that That only lasted about

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Speaker 1: now you are a private investigator. Yes, now you get

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Speaker 3: Following there is a lot of domestic and the biggest

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Speaker 3: I'm not just going to find out something and give

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Speaker 3: You I kill the person. So I like to a

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Speaker 3: And in New York State there is no such thing

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Speaker 3: I've worked out with people filming them. They had no idea.

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Speaker 1: Oh, because they're like disabled or there's something horrible that

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Speaker 3: Oh. I have insurance companies that reach out to me

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Speaker 1: I didn't know insurance companies did that. This explains where

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Speaker 3: There's all it's workmen's comp. This comp is big, so interesting.

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Speaker 1: So do any of the people that you're investigating find

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Speaker 3: Yeah, usually it's funny. I always think that too. I

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Speaker 3: everything because I assure you discreet, I will never ever

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Speaker 3: this was the attorney reached out to me to find

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Speaker 3: The husband's attorney said, my wife, you know, to find

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Speaker 1: I feel like that happens so much.

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Speaker 3: saying everything your iPhone. Those I get that a lot,

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Speaker 3: at least at least three occasions when they get hit

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Speaker 1: It's got to be I mean, could you imagine, have

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Speaker 3: To be a mystery person. Get some shots. And that's

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Speaker 3: me and said, hey, my boyfriend's cheating on me. My

437
00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:14,760
Speaker 3: husband's cheating on me. I live with him, no lawyer's involved.

438
00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:17,639
Speaker 3: I just want to know. I personally, I would recommend

439
00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:20,200
Speaker 3: somebody for you. It'll take your money. I don't want

440
00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:21,679
Speaker 3: to get involved in that because I don't know what

441
00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:23,040
Speaker 3: you're going to do if I come back and give

442
00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:23,879
Speaker 3: you all the footage.

443
00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:27,159
Speaker 1: I bet I. So I have a theory about cheating,

444
00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:30,840
Speaker 1: going through phones, hiring investigators. I think once it gets

445
00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:32,840
Speaker 1: to that point where you feel the need to pick

446
00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:35,679
Speaker 1: up somebody's phone and go through it, it's over. Just

447
00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:39,400
Speaker 1: call it thank you, Because even if I'm the type

448
00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:41,000
Speaker 1: of person, you can never prove a negative right. You

449
00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:43,600
Speaker 1: can never prove something did not happen. You can only

450
00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:46,280
Speaker 1: ever prove that it did happen. So just because you

451
00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:48,479
Speaker 1: don't find something, in my head, if you come back

452
00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:50,359
Speaker 1: and you're like, listen and I follow this person around,

453
00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:53,520
Speaker 1: I never found anything, then I'm thinking, Okay, it doesn't

454
00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:55,240
Speaker 1: mean it didn't happen. You just didn't find anything.

455
00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:55,720
Speaker 3: That's right.

456
00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:58,280
Speaker 1: The trust is gone at that point, it's broken. Just

457
00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:00,480
Speaker 1: move on. There's something wrong, whether it's the whether it's

458
00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:02,240
Speaker 1: to you, whether it's the two of you together. Once

459
00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:04,560
Speaker 1: you get to that point, I just can't imagine ever.

460
00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:08,120
Speaker 3: Actually I have a GPS. Now that's also very interesting.

461
00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:11,520
Speaker 3: You can't just legally GPS. There's a whole system on

462
00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:13,280
Speaker 3: how you have to do that on somebody's car.

463
00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:15,359
Speaker 1: Oh really? Yes, I've watched a lot of Breaking Bad.

464
00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:18,800
Speaker 3: Are you sure that's it? Breaking Back the Chicken Polo places?

465
00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:23,199
Speaker 3: Putting it on Walter, that's it because of that episode.

466
00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:25,520
Speaker 3: I have so many friends with Kai Bardi GPS you have.

467
00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:26,920
Speaker 3: I just want to see where my girl is going.

468
00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:29,280
Speaker 3: I want the tracker if you're feeling that way like

469
00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:32,040
Speaker 3: and then I come from the maybe the old school,

470
00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:34,360
Speaker 3: and don't want to say I'm tougher, but I don't

471
00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:37,800
Speaker 3: want to know. No happy I'm in my relationship. I'm happy,

472
00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:40,800
Speaker 3: we're happy. If that's something that's going on, I don't

473
00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:43,240
Speaker 3: want to investigate. If it's I'm gonna know if you're

474
00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:45,119
Speaker 3: really gonna do it throughout our relationship. I think I'm

475
00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:46,399
Speaker 3: gonna see some tail signs.

476
00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:48,159
Speaker 1: So that was gonna be my question. How does this

477
00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:52,080
Speaker 1: translate into your personal life. Are you constantly looking around

478
00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:53,800
Speaker 1: and observing things, or do you try to keep them

479
00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:56,640
Speaker 1: separate and say, yeah, I'm not gonna poke around. I'm

480
00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:57,880
Speaker 1: just gonna live this separate life.

481
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Speaker 3: It never ever affects me. I actually look at it.

482
00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:02,120
Speaker 1: Like, because you're married, right right, I'm.

483
00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:04,840
Speaker 3: Married a long time. We were like high school sweethearts,

484
00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:07,480
Speaker 3: so yeah, we're at that point. I think now my

485
00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:11,080
Speaker 3: wife actually, long as her bills are paid, she would

486
00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:17,600
Speaker 3: just throw me out of house. Marriage long marriage. As

487
00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:19,840
Speaker 3: you get older, there's less and less people checking you out.

488
00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:31,919
Speaker 1: I don't know about that, all right, all right, my

489
00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:34,439
Speaker 1: boyfriend and I will I can't even say argue. But

490
00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:36,800
Speaker 1: I'm not jealous at all. I just think, oh, I

491
00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:38,760
Speaker 1: think you're cute, so I assume other people are gonna

492
00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:40,600
Speaker 1: think you're cute. And we were at a resort not

493
00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:42,359
Speaker 1: too long ago, and this woman swam up to him

494
00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:43,960
Speaker 1: and I was standing right next to him, and she

495
00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:46,560
Speaker 1: starts going on and on about he's handsome and look

496
00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:48,159
Speaker 1: at these tattoos, asking about.

497
00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:51,399
Speaker 3: I met him at the tattoo gallery. He's a handsome.

498
00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:52,520
Speaker 3: He's a handsome boy.

499
00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:55,520
Speaker 1: Pain in my ass, But you know, this woman's talking

500
00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:58,199
Speaker 1: to him. So I just swam away because I was like,

501
00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:00,800
Speaker 1: you know what, and go ahead do your thing. She

502
00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,760
Speaker 1: saw me standing here. She gives no fucks, so I'm

503
00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:05,719
Speaker 1: not your security. So I just swam off and let

504
00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:08,399
Speaker 1: them finish talking. And he said, how could you do that?

505
00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:10,240
Speaker 1: I can't believe you would just leave me there. First

506
00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:12,040
Speaker 1: of all, you're a grown man. You can take care

507
00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:14,119
Speaker 1: of yourself with this woman. But I didn't want to

508
00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:18,040
Speaker 1: be the person in their cod blocking and it's hot, thanks.

509
00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:22,360
Speaker 3: It's a turn on, a turn off. And I have

510
00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:24,760
Speaker 3: one an older school, high school sweet art type wife

511
00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:27,160
Speaker 3: where she would look at me in the background shaking

512
00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:29,800
Speaker 3: her head like nice. As I'm engaged in the conversation

513
00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:31,520
Speaker 3: where I'm like, all right, can we do this later.

514
00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:32,720
Speaker 3: It's like way to Rockey.

515
00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:34,400
Speaker 1: I don't even care if people are flirting. I think

516
00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:36,760
Speaker 1: go ahead, have fun, enjoy yourself. We'll see where you

517
00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:37,359
Speaker 1: go this evening.

518
00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:39,800
Speaker 3: I'm flirty, you are flirt with It's it's just more

519
00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:42,199
Speaker 3: good energy, right. You just know the level. I know

520
00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:44,360
Speaker 3: the level. It ends at the bottom.

521
00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:47,960
Speaker 1: So, speaking of that level working in private investigation, is

522
00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:51,479
Speaker 1: there a common thread that you notice before you actually

523
00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:55,000
Speaker 1: catch someone in the act a behavior that you're like, yeah,

524
00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:55,679
Speaker 1: they're cheating.

525
00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:57,920
Speaker 3: Ah, yeah, what is it? Yeah?

526
00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:01,920
Speaker 4: Two cell phones phones is without a doubt.

527
00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:05,360
Speaker 3: You know, if you, if you, if you're significant other

528
00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:07,439
Speaker 3: has two cell phones and it's not a work phone.

529
00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:09,800
Speaker 3: But then again, it can be a work phone. They

530
00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:13,600
Speaker 3: can utilize it. Yep, two cell phones is. I'll say

531
00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:15,560
Speaker 3: half the time, let's not because now I'm going to

532
00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:18,080
Speaker 3: start fights with all these people that two cell phones.

533
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:24,359
Speaker 3: Two cell phones is one after dinner disappearing. If I

534
00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:26,080
Speaker 3: gotta take a ride, I gotta run out and get

535
00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:29,520
Speaker 3: something from the store, I forgot something that usually could

536
00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:31,800
Speaker 3: be that, like I got to make that quick phone call. Hey,

537
00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:33,320
Speaker 3: you know what's going on the.

538
00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:35,240
Speaker 1: Majority of your clients are they men? Are they women?

539
00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:36,040
Speaker 1: Or is it split?

540
00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:39,160
Speaker 3: You know, it's it's it was in the beginning when

541
00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:43,560
Speaker 3: I started this. Obviously it's more men, but it's women

542
00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:47,160
Speaker 3: are catching up. Yeah, yeah, they're they're coming around, they're

543
00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:47,760
Speaker 3: coming around.

544
00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:50,720
Speaker 1: Wait, so the clients are men or the clients are women?

545
00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:56,440
Speaker 3: Are more female clients catching the men? But that has changed? Really? Yeah?

546
00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:59,399
Speaker 1: That do you think it's because women are getting stupid

547
00:23:59,440 --> 00:23:59,960
Speaker 1: or they're cheating?

548
00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:04,600
Speaker 3: I have my theory. I think tell us, Bravo, okay,

549
00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:09,080
Speaker 3: TV shows women see moore of being exposed Internet just

550
00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:11,480
Speaker 3: more of that kind of gossip type. And then they're like,

551
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:13,240
Speaker 3: you know what, I do like that guy in the gym,

552
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:14,840
Speaker 3: he is cute. You know what, I'm gonna live my

553
00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:15,359
Speaker 3: best life?

554
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:18,760
Speaker 1: Or so you think social media has made people TV

555
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:21,600
Speaker 1: and social media has made people more apt to cheat.

556
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:23,720
Speaker 4: Sure, Now let me ask you this, Chris.

557
00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:27,159
Speaker 1: You have two daughters to their adults. Yes, they're dating. Yes,

558
00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:29,440
Speaker 1: you meet the dude they're dating, or the girl they're dating,

559
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:32,560
Speaker 1: whatever it is. You don't do some snooping. Come on, man, So.

560
00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:35,080
Speaker 3: This is funny. I'm meeting my daughter, my older it's

561
00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:38,760
Speaker 3: their name's Jessica. She's gonna be twenty five, meeting her

562
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:42,200
Speaker 3: boyfriend for the first time this Friday. She's been dating

563
00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:44,159
Speaker 3: him for a few months and now it's time to

564
00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:47,080
Speaker 3: But how do I say a confession I have when

565
00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:47,960
Speaker 3: we're on air?

566
00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:52,200
Speaker 1: But go ahead, I run them, Yes, as you should.

567
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:53,479
Speaker 1: I want to run them. And I'm not even a cop.

568
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:54,560
Speaker 1: I don't know how you don't do it.

569
00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:57,440
Speaker 3: Love clients to come to me and they want a

570
00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:01,159
Speaker 3: general comprehensive run and people go, that's horrible. No, it

571
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 3: ain't fuck that. Why would you want to know about

572
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 3: some I want to know his probably work history. Yes,

573
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:09,040
Speaker 3: I want to know if he was arrested.

574
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:10,800
Speaker 1: Credit score and I wouldn't and I'd.

575
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:15,000
Speaker 3: Have no problem credit score. Leans, that's right. I want

576
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:18,560
Speaker 3: to know everything about this person. So yeah, that answers

577
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:19,200
Speaker 3: that for sure.

578
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 1: Okay, So let me ask you, this got a lot

579
00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 1: of interesting personalities in this building. You run them.

580
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:26,720
Speaker 3: I have not run anybody in.

581
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,120
Speaker 1: This You haven't. I don't even believe that. I don't

582
00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:30,000
Speaker 1: even believe that for a second.

583
00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:35,040
Speaker 3: I have not run anybody in this building.

584
00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:37,280
Speaker 1: I would never do that. There have to be some

585
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:41,199
Speaker 1: interesting people around here doing some interesting shit. Yeah, and

586
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:42,320
Speaker 1: you're not allowed to talk about.

587
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:44,760
Speaker 3: It, are you? No? No? But yeah, it's a colorful building,

588
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:45,320
Speaker 3: that's for sure.

589
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:45,879
Speaker 1: I bet it is.

590
00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:48,440
Speaker 3: We have all shapes and sizes as far as.

591
00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:50,439
Speaker 1: The colorful Okay, can you say this, as far as

592
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:54,720
Speaker 1: the colorful people go? Right, which station gives you the

593
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:56,880
Speaker 1: most to deal with? I think I know it?

594
00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 3: Right?

595
00:25:57,600 --> 00:25:59,720
Speaker 1: But which? Because you only walk you know certain people

596
00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:00,480
Speaker 1: out of this building?

597
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:05,879
Speaker 3: Right? Right? Well? Right? Power definitely has more people looking

598
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:10,400
Speaker 3: to get with them. We've had that from time to time.

599
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:12,959
Speaker 1: Well, they're also a lot more controversial. There you go,

600
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 1: they're out there, they start shit. We don't really start

601
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 1: shit over here.

602
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,840
Speaker 3: WR. I've had three Oh yeah, they start too here

603
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 3: you go. I've had three cases with WOLR. We had

604
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,840
Speaker 3: to do again power in WLR. We had to do

605
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:27,080
Speaker 3: a super like get a whole team out here and

606
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 3: just beyond high alert.

607
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:30,960
Speaker 1: What's the craziest thing you've seen happen around here?

608
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 3: We had a guy in Tribeca who came by looking

609
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 3: for one of our talent, and he was out here

610
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,400
Speaker 3: at four o'clock in the morning. So that alone alarms

611
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:41,320
Speaker 3: me because that's motivation.

612
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:43,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, you're up early waiting.

613
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:46,199
Speaker 3: That shows some good motivation. We asked him if he

614
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:48,600
Speaker 3: needed anything. The security at the front desk. You know,

615
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 3: it's a suit. We call that a suit because it

616
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:52,960
Speaker 3: shows the first sign of authority. You got a suit

617
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:55,040
Speaker 3: on the lobby security. Hi, is there anything I can

618
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:56,960
Speaker 3: help you with? Because he's standing right at the window

619
00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:57,879
Speaker 3: and it's four o'clock.

620
00:26:57,640 --> 00:26:59,200
Speaker 1: In These guys are the first ones out.

621
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:02,719
Speaker 3: There twenty four hours. So the guy on the midnight

622
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:04,199
Speaker 3: shift would be the one that will alert me.

623
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 1: Oh for Anthony, here you go.

624
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,440
Speaker 3: And this was at this time was in Tribeca, which

625
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,960
Speaker 3: was Steve Sure And Anthony, by the way, is amazing,

626
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:11,959
Speaker 3: he really is.

627
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 1: He was great too.

628
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was funny. I got a call from Anthony

629
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:17,920
Speaker 3: this morning for something like he's just so good. They're great.

630
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 3: The guy said to the overnight security guy at four

631
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 3: o'clock in the morning, Fuck you, free country. I'm out here.

632
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,440
Speaker 3: Don't tell me what I got to do. Mind you business.

633
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 3: Then I have to roll up and again just stand here.

634
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 3: And now I'm not going to engage with him, because

635
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 3: He's right, it's a free country. You could stand in

636
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:36,119
Speaker 3: front of a building at four o'clock in the morning.

637
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 3: So now the job details where I have to stand

638
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:41,560
Speaker 3: there to try not to make it like I'm watching him,

639
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:44,200
Speaker 3: but I'm watching him to wait to see. As far

640
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 3: as our procedures, we will just have talents stay home

641
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 3: that day, really work from home.

642
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:51,960
Speaker 1: There you go. There are so many times, because you know,

643
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 1: we all walk in from different places all the time,

644
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:55,720
Speaker 1: so you never even know where somebody's coming from, or

645
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:58,240
Speaker 1: if they're coming up through the basement whatever. But every

646
00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:00,640
Speaker 1: now and then at the old building would see somebody

647
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 1: looking outside and we would just walk by and be like, hey, Steve,

648
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 1: I think someone's here for Charlotta Magne. This is always like,

649
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 1: I know you said some shit yesterday and here yeah, yeah, yeah,

650
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:11,440
Speaker 1: here it goes.

651
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 3: I love it.

652
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:17,639
Speaker 1: That's funny. So nothing nothing too crazy with the people here.

653
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:19,399
Speaker 1: And if it was, you wouldn't even be able to

654
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:21,920
Speaker 1: tell me anyway. That's right, we'll talk off the air, Chris,

655
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,119
Speaker 1: what about celebrities like you have to again? I know

656
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 1: you are Yeah, you can't see that because this is

657
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 1: a podcast, but Chris has a big old grint on

658
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 1: his face. I will find out. But I can't tell

659
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 1: you how about celebrities because I know that you've done

660
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,439
Speaker 1: with deal dealt with a lot of them. Yeah, yes,

661
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 1: without using a name. Are you allowed to say some

662
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 1: crazy things that you have seen within the celebrity world,

663
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 1: like a page six type of thing.

664
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:46,480
Speaker 4: Sure, blind item.

665
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 3: Right, blind item? Celebrities. Uh. Even my experience in the

666
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 3: police department before I was doing private security, we caught

667
00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 3: one celebrity in the meat past area, which is in

668
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 3: Lower Manhattan, performing oral sex on the prostitute. Oh a

669
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 3: male prostitute.

670
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 1: Fascinating.

671
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, in his suv with his driver was out getting coffee.

672
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 1: So that was quick.

673
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 3: My thing is like, you got all this money in

674
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 3: the world, get a room. Another one was fun was

675
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 3: I was called at the Ritz Calton on Central Park

676
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 3: back with a certain celebrity. You can guess it. I'll

677
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 3: shake my head. I didn't work for him, so I

678
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:34,960
Speaker 3: didn't sign to an NDA so I could say it

679
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 3: during the Was it Denise.

680
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 1: Richardson Charlie Sheena?

681
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 3: That incident was an incident of like an assault. Charlie

682
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 3: Sheen had an issue in a hotel room. I wasn't working,

683
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 3: but the manager told me, you know he was at

684
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:54,240
Speaker 3: There was nine one one calls. Yeah, and then there

685
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 3: was a celebrity who loved prostitution coming to his room.

686
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 3: He would stay, of course I can't say his name.

687
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 3: He would hire security and he would rent the whole

688
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 3: floor just so nobody else was up there and just

689
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 3: have escorts come like all weekend. And that was Central

690
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:12,320
Speaker 3: Park Hotel.

691
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 1: Sounds like a party.

692
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 3: It's a party.

693
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 1: Speaking about NDAs, I have some questions about this. So

694
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 1: with a lot of the Diddy and Cassie stuff that

695
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 1: we have seen when it comes to an NDA, even

696
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 1: take him out of it. Just in general, when it

697
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 1: comes to an NDA. How protected is somebody by an

698
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 1: NDA if they're committing a crime, Like, are you never

699
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 1: supposed to talk about it? Do you get in trouble

700
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 1: if you blow the whistle on somebody because they're doing

701
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 1: something horrible and you've signed an NDA.

702
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 3: I mean the legal answer to that is if you're

703
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 3: subpoena or authorities are questioning you, now the NDA's out.

704
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 3: If it's the commission of a crime, you're not sup

705
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 3: If you're professional, I'm not going to go to a

706
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 3: barbecue and say I was just out with so and so,

707
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 3: because it's just going to get out and it comes

708
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 3: back to me and then I'm not going to get

709
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 3: work right. So I'm going to assure you so discreet

710
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 3: any of my clients. So if it's in a commission

711
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 3: of a crime and now you're working with the authorities,

712
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 3: you're gonna you're not gonna get sued. You still might

713
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 3: get sued, but you're gonna win.

714
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 1: Now, what if the authorities don't come to me but

715
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 1: say I sign an NDA and I'm out partying with

716
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 1: We'll say Diddy because he's the one that's all over

717
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 1: the news. Right now, I sign an NDA. I'm hanging

718
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 1: out with him. I see him commit a crime. Right

719
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 1: Nobody has come to me and asked me did this happen.

720
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:21,480
Speaker 1: I go to the authorities and say, hey, I saw

721
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 1: this happen. Do I get in trouble.

722
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 3: By the NDA standards? Now you'll win that you will.

723
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:29,239
Speaker 3: He could still make your life miserable and ssue you,

724
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 3: bring you into depositions in court paid attorney, so he

725
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 3: could still make your life a pain in the ass

726
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 3: because you're gonna have the lawyer up and now it's

727
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:40,720
Speaker 3: going to hit your pocket. But in the end, there's

728
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 3: nobody gonna find you guilty for that, because it's the

729
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 3: moral of the right thing to do. It's a crime.

730
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 1: Because I'm just wondering, you know how so many people

731
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 1: now are coming forward and saying, oh, we knew this,

732
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 1: we saw this, it was all going on, but you

733
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 1: didn't have shit to say. Then now you have a

734
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 1: bunch to say. And I feel like it's not the

735
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 1: flex people think it is.

736
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 3: I think it's the domino effect on the on the

737
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 3: one side of it, where let's say it did happen,

738
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 3: what these people are saying. I think it's the ritual.

739
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 3: You always need a leader, You always need that one

740
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 3: person to come out, kind of like in the classroom,

741
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 3: we all wanted to say something, nobody wouldn't. Then the

742
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 3: one kid say, speaks his mind, Now we all want

743
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 3: to talk. I think there's that, and then I think

744
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 3: there's people, of course capitalizing on sure nonsense.

745
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 1: There's a little bit of cloud chasing, for sure, But

746
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 1: I'm getting a little irritated at some of these celebrities

747
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 1: who are like, oh, we knew that we been knew that,

748
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 1: we knew that it had happened, blah blah blah. Well

749
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 1: where the fuck were you?

750
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 3: Then?

751
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 1: Why did you say anything?

752
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 3: Then why didn't you want to do the right thing? Yeah,

753
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:29,719
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, that's that's the problem in this

754
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 3: world is everybody just kind of has the shuggers on.

755
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 3: They do know a lot of bad things going on,

756
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 3: nobody wants to get involved.

757
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 1: Do you ever have to do security detail for somebody

758
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 1: that while you guys are doing it, you're like, you know,

759
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 1: I wouldn't really hate it if you accidentally got punched

760
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 1: in the face by someone because you're so terrible. Absolutely, Yes,

761
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 1: who Chris who.

762
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, you wouldn't lose sleep, that's for sure if it happened.

763
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 3: But the job is to protect them, Yeah, the fullest.

764
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 3: So you're going to make sure that doesn't happen. But yeah,

765
00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 3: and nine out of ten, it's always good. It's quick

766
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 3: in and out, get him safe for tonight. It's an

767
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 3: honor if I'm known at one of many former cops

768
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 3: as the New York City connection for who's coming in

769
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 3: from La Miami. We need a guy biggest human beings

770
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 3: if we need that kind of job, or just again

771
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 3: the guy that just keeps you out.

772
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 1: Of trouble, you're gonna have to hire you for some

773
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 1: more things.

774
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 3: You get the friends and family right there.

775
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 1: Hey, and you guys are great, and you always treat

776
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 1: us well and always be nice to the security because

777
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 1: they're the ones that are going to help you.

778
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 4: Smile, not give me a shake, be happy.

779
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 3: I sure you your accounter won't be as bad.

780
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 1: That's a good. So okay, let's talk about that. Give

781
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 1: us tips to make an encounter with a police officer

782
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 1: less shitty, because, let me tell you, scary does something

783
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:43,719
Speaker 1: that I don't agree with at all. But as soon

784
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 1: as he gets pulled over. He just immediately starts dropping.

785
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 1: I'm on the radio on the Elvis stor In Morning show.

786
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 1: I'm on the radio.

787
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 3: I'm like, do you know who I am?

788
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 1: Yes? Yes, which I always say. If you have to

789
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 1: say do you know who I am? You lost because

790
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 1: either they know and they don't give a shit, or

791
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:00,080
Speaker 1: they don't know and they don't give a shit, And

792
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 1: now you're just sitting here looking like an idiot. Like

793
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 1: in the history of do you Know Who I Am?

794
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 3: Does it ever work nowadays? Remember the cop is on camera,

795
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 3: so anything you say is going to be on his camera.

796
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 3: So you might not want too much because those cameras,

797
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:15,719
Speaker 3: even even the police camera, I'm sad to say, end

798
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:17,759
Speaker 3: up leaking out and end up on these TV shows. Yeah.

799
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 1: I remember Reese Witherspoon getting pulled over for duy and

800
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:21,359
Speaker 1: she pulled a do you know who I Am?

801
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 4: Thing?

802
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:22,400
Speaker 1: And it looked awful.

803
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:24,319
Speaker 3: A police encounter is public.

804
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:24,759
Speaker 1: I think it should be.

805
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:27,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess yeah. I would be more like, I

806
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:29,279
Speaker 3: don't show that. What is that going to do? But

807
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 3: they have to now show their side of what they encounter.

808
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,320
Speaker 3: You know, we've seen bad things on the other side.

809
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 3: I'm not naive. We know that it happens. With that said,

810
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:40,799
Speaker 3: here's what I told my kids when they drove. When

811
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,439
Speaker 3: a cop, especially in the dark, gets out, he pulls

812
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:45,800
Speaker 3: you over on the traffic stop and he's walking to

813
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 3: your car, I assure you he's as scared as you

814
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:51,719
Speaker 3: that first moment when he's walking to that car. He

815
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 3: don't know what he's especially when there's multiple bodies like

816
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 3: you and your friends are hanging out, you get pulled

817
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:58,879
Speaker 3: over this three heads that he sees as he's coming up.

818
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:01,760
Speaker 3: So my thing with my my own children was, well,

819
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:03,719
Speaker 3: I don't know this cop, and I don't know if

820
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:06,319
Speaker 3: he's a little bit of a loose cannon or had

821
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,720
Speaker 3: a bad day, or has a PI and his wife's

822
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 3: cheating on him. I don't know what is coming to

823
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 3: that car to engage with my children, and he does

824
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 3: have a firearm. My theory is, listen to me, put

825
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,400
Speaker 3: the freaking light on, put your hands on the steering wheel,

826
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 3: and just answer the questions. I'm very, very confident that

827
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 3: he's there because of the traffic steps. I'm not making

828
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:28,440
Speaker 3: it now like I'm against the police, because I'm not.

829
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 3: I'm a police officer, but I know safety, if you

830
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 3: move the wrong way and it's dark, or just go

831
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:35,799
Speaker 3: forbit your friend does something stupid. You just never know.

832
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:37,920
Speaker 1: So let's say you do have a bad encounter with

833
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 1: a police officer who was acting out of line, who

834
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 1: did something he should or she should not have done. Okay,

835
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:46,880
Speaker 1: what is your recourse? How do people reford? What do

836
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 1: you do?

837
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 3: What I would do? I would shut up and let

838
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 3: him win. He's gonna win on the scene, and lawyer

839
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 3: up and have your day later.

840
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:55,879
Speaker 1: But even from that point, like say, okay, you win.

841
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 1: Now you're searching my car illegally or for no reason,

842
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 1: whatever it is is, or now you've physically harmed me,

843
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 1: where do you go from there? Like, yes, you get

844
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:06,359
Speaker 1: a lawyer. What if you can't afford a lawyer? What's

845
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 1: your first course of action?

846
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:07,839
Speaker 3: Right?

847
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:08,359
Speaker 1: Who do you tell?

848
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:10,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, they have a whole process. There's like a

849
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 3: civilian complaint. And at the moment at the scene, I

850
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,720
Speaker 3: would eat it. Yeah really, and I have. I've had,

851
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 3: you know, an issue. I had an issue down south

852
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:21,800
Speaker 3: once when I was pulled over and I didn't agree

853
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,719
Speaker 3: with where it was going. But I ate it. I

854
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:26,319
Speaker 3: just ate it. You want to take a look and

855
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,799
Speaker 3: I just did because I'm just for that moment, live

856
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 3: for that moment. You know it could be. I don't

857
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 3: want it to become combative.

858
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,319
Speaker 1: It's really tough though, because you know, people are so

859
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 1: scared now because you are seeing these videos of people

860
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:40,920
Speaker 1: who were complying, people who were not acting out of

861
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 1: line to get the treatment that they then got. So

862
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:44,319
Speaker 1: it's it's a tough one.

863
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:47,279
Speaker 3: Especially Well, we were talking about short and we were

864
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 3: talking about this before. Like the media, it's so much

865
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:52,839
Speaker 3: pounding the social media. If you just search it once,

866
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:54,360
Speaker 3: it's going to keep coming on your phone.

867
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 1: Absolutely, they like the.

868
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 3: Police department has so many great stories going on with

869
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 3: their doing in the community. Especially again I said, this

870
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 3: new way of policing I'm for with these young cops,

871
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 3: cops and kids boxing softball, and it's not on that

872
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:10,919
Speaker 3: social media like that one.

873
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 1: Well, police needs a better pr then that's where we

874
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:13,759
Speaker 1: need to fix it.

875
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, beat it up, Gandhi, get in there. I'll get

876
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:16,880
Speaker 3: you some resources.

877
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:19,360
Speaker 1: Let's go all right. I don't want to only highlight

878
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:21,279
Speaker 1: the bad shit that happens. I mean there is a lot.

879
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 1: We know that there's a lot. I do want to

880
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 1: highlight the good things that happen. And I do want

881
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 1: to give people recourse if they feel helpless, because I

882
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 1: think that that's a big part of what's really setting

883
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 1: everybody off. Just in general. It feels like a powder

884
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 1: keg right now, exactly. And I think it's because people

885
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:39,279
Speaker 1: feel helpless in so many different areas, whether it's how

886
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 1: much money you're making, insurance companies, doctors' offices, dealing with

887
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,319
Speaker 1: police officers. People don't know where to go and what

888
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 1: to do to actually affect change. And I think that

889
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:50,279
Speaker 1: that's what's really stressing a lot of people out. So

890
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:52,239
Speaker 1: if we can give them answers, I love it. If

891
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 1: we can highlight the good, I'm always on board for that.

892
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 3: I think it's great.

893
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 1: So when you have these great stories or things that

894
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 1: are happening community, Chris, you got to tell me yeah,

895
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:01,239
Speaker 1: so now I can talk about it.

896
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:02,279
Speaker 3: I love it. I will.

897
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:04,319
Speaker 1: Now you don't expect me to go do research, do you.

898
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 3: I'll put you in touch with somebody I know in

899
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 3: the NYPD with that they do a lot in the community.

900
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 1: So Chris, you also, and I will wrap it up

901
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:14,399
Speaker 1: with this, You're not just a former police officer in

902
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 1: our security and own a private investigation business. Yes, you

903
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:18,759
Speaker 1: also have a.

904
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 4: Bar, Yes, a wine bar.

905
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 3: Yes. My family, my brother and I, we have a

906
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 3: wine bar in Bronxville, New York called Ernie's Wine Bar.

907
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:29,319
Speaker 1: Where's Bronxville, Bronxfield's in.

908
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 3: Lower Lower Westchester. It's one of the first stops coming

909
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 3: out of the city, out of the bronx What's called

910
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 3: Ernie's Ernie's Wine Bar.

911
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:37,319
Speaker 1: So if you want to see Chris, are you there?

912
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 3: Off it? I will always be there. Just just let

913
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 3: me know who's coming ex for Chris and I'll get

914
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 3: over there.

915
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:47,319
Speaker 1: Ernie's Wine Bar in Bronxville. Chris, our lovely security guard,

916
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 1: and I think we can call you security guard, our

917
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:53,279
Speaker 1: lovely security security and private investigator. Chris.

918
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 4: We love you, Thank you, thank you for having me.

919
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 1: Of course, if people can people find you online or

920
00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 1: do you not want to drop that information?

921
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 3: Oh sure, shoot me. Let's give you a few emails.

922
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:07,799
Speaker 1: Well you have a few emails. One he's got three

923
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 1: phones for emails. Nothing he's doing is sketchy.

924
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:14,280
Speaker 3: Chris Consulting at gmail dot com.

925
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:18,280
Speaker 1: Chrisconsulting at gmail dot com. If you have some issues

926
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:20,359
Speaker 1: that you would like to be solved or looked at.

927
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 1: That's how you get ahold of our Chris, and have

928
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 1: your lawyer reach out to him. If you want to

929
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 1: creep on a significant.

930
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:28,759
Speaker 3: Lawyer first please, I don't want no more anti domestic case.

931
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 1: Good job, Thank you, Chris, thanks for joining us, Thanks

932
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 1: for having me. Okay, pretty interesting. Chris has some things

933
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:47,400
Speaker 1: to say. I think I'm gonna have to talk to

934
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:49,439
Speaker 1: him off the air about some of the stuff he

935
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 1: was being very hesitant about. But anyway, let's get to

936
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 1: the other fun stuff because we need to get Andrew's

937
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 1: ass in here, because, like I said, I want to

938
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 1: burn him and we have to do and ask me anything.

939
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 1: So please hold on one second, Andrew, can you come here?

940
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 2: What he's such a victim's losing? H Well, go take

941
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:15,880
Speaker 2: the mic you deserve it today.

942
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 1: Oh wow, there he goes. There he goes learn something.

943
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 1: I'm out podcasting. Oh my god, he's gonna take out

944
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 1: a whole computer. Look at him.

945
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 5: Well, why would they put the arm of the computer

946
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,319
Speaker 5: where it could hit the computer? That's dumb.

947
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:28,439
Speaker 4: The computer hit the arm.

948
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:30,320
Speaker 1: Yes, this is a microphone.

949
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:31,920
Speaker 5: Yes, just what do you need?

950
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:35,319
Speaker 1: I'd like to burn you. Okay, do you have any

951
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 1: idea why I want to burn you.

952
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:44,920
Speaker 5: Because of the podcast being spoken over.

953
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:46,240
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he knows.

954
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm not going to burn me. I'm gonna burn you.

955
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:51,360
Speaker 1: Wait, how are you going to burn me for that?

956
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 4: Yeah? Hold on.

957
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:56,759
Speaker 1: So here's what happened. I had doctor Brad Schaeffer in

958
00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:59,800
Speaker 1: for actually what I thought was a really good episode, Diamond,

959
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:01,880
Speaker 1: you were in there for it. What did you think? Amazing?

960
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:06,279
Speaker 1: Amazing episode? And we got to a lot of really

961
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:08,439
Speaker 1: cool things. You talked about all kinds of stuff, and

962
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:10,880
Speaker 1: we had people come in, like guests come in. But

963
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 1: in the other studio recording what the hell were you recording?

964
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 5: It was a boll chat.

965
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:16,879
Speaker 4: You were recording a.

966
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:19,920
Speaker 1: Bowl chat for the serial Killers. Yes, Andrew and a

967
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:22,440
Speaker 1: guy named Ben were in the other studio. We love Ben,

968
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 1: He's very nice, like him a lot. Their entire podcast

969
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 1: recorded on top of my entire podcast. So Doctor Brad

970
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 1: was rendered unusable. But the serial Killer podcast just went

971
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 1: on to do this fucking bold chat. I hate you

972
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 1: for it? And why did I flame you?

973
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 5: I guess maybe learn how to use the board and

974
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 5: then it won't happen.

975
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 1: Oh really, wait a minute, because I'm pretty sure that

976
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:51,799
Speaker 1: you had something in your side that you one didn't

977
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:54,359
Speaker 1: know how to shut off, and two had you known

978
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 1: how to use the board, it would not have happened.

979
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 5: Well, to be honest with you, I am terrified of

980
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 5: the boards should because I am always afraid of them.

981
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 5: I do not touch the board unless it is in

982
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 5: studio I and I know how to use that because

983
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 5: I have written out instructions of what too press to

984
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:12,839
Speaker 5: make it work. I never touch Elvis's board. I never

985
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:16,360
Speaker 5: touched Scotty's board because I did my impression. I swear

986
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 5: on my life, I never touched it, and that was

987
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:20,920
Speaker 5: the problem. I didn't touch it because Scott's always like

988
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:24,319
Speaker 5: working radio, and I'm always under the impression that if

989
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:26,720
Speaker 5: I touch anything there, I could be on the radio

990
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:28,800
Speaker 5: at any second and shut everything down.

991
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 1: Worse, destroy an hour long podcast.

992
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 5: Well, I will say, I apologize.

993
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 1: Well, this isn't fun. I don't want an apology. I

994
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 1: want you to fight back.

995
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 5: But then when I fight back, it's, oh, look at

996
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 5: him playing the victim. Let's talk about that manipulation. I'm

997
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:43,479
Speaker 5: also so sorry I spit on your hat.

998
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 1: Sorry that.

999
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 5: I burn you.

1000
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 1: Okay, find Andrew, that was it? Whatever?

1001
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:56,359
Speaker 5: Well, I'm sorry. I mean, if you want, like, I'll

1002
00:42:56,360 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 5: fight you for something else. So apologizing is not good.

1003
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:03,880
Speaker 5: Now you're doing the thing. No, no, no, now, you

1004
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:06,759
Speaker 5: the one always got his pangle in arms up.

1005
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 1: He did just he just whipped up a little panglin

1006
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 1: arms though. Did you see it? He went like this,

1007
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:12,279
Speaker 1: You can't see what I'm doing, but it's kind of

1008
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 1: t rexy anyway. No, here's the problem.

1009
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 5: You know.

1010
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 1: I always say this, if people just take accountability for

1011
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:20,719
Speaker 1: what happened and say sorry, you have to move on.

1012
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:23,400
Speaker 1: You can't keep sucking them up. I was hoping for

1013
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 1: a lie or a pivot or it's not my fault

1014
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:29,400
Speaker 1: because I didn't get any of that. So when somebody

1015
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 1: just says like, oh I fucked up, let's move on,

1016
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:31,920
Speaker 1: then you gotta move on. Boo.

1017
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 5: Sorry, did I just ruin your show once again? Okay?

1018
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 1: Oops, that's fine. We'll have doctor Brad back in because

1019
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 1: he's cool.

1020
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 5: Ok sorry again, Okay, bye.

1021
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 1: See that little voice? Fuck you?

1022
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 3: Hey, bye.

1023
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:49,280
Speaker 1: Bye, Andrew.

1024
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:50,800
Speaker 3: I have a great podcast.

1025
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 1: Okay, let's get to the ask me anything since Andrew

1026
00:43:54,520 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 1: just ruined it all. Mama Mony Cat no, Mama Monica.

1027
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 1: T oh maybe that.

1028
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 2: Okay, anyway, Mama, she wants to know where is your

1029
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:11,279
Speaker 2: next vacation exotic destination.

1030
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 1: Ooh, that is a great question. Vacationing one of my

1031
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 1: favorite things to do. And as you hear this podcast,

1032
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:19,279
Speaker 1: our show is currently on vacation, which means I am

1033
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 1: in Mexico with my boyfriend and a bunch of his

1034
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:26,360
Speaker 1: friends and hopefully I'm having a good time. But who knows?

1035
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 1: These people are crazy? Well, I hope so what. There

1036
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 1: are two of his best friends from when he was

1037
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 1: in the military, and these dudes like tu Porta, and

1038
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:37,880
Speaker 1: they're bringing their significant others and I don't really know

1039
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:39,719
Speaker 1: any of them, so this is kind of gonna be

1040
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:41,799
Speaker 1: my first time meeting them. Pray for me, Diamond, Pray

1041
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:43,799
Speaker 1: for me. You're gonna have a good time. Are you

1042
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 1: a good time? I'm here? Why are you here?

1043
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:49,919
Speaker 2: Because I couldn't plan a trip around this time because

1044
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:51,360
Speaker 2: all of my friends are working, so I was like,

1045
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 2: I don't really know what to do. It's okay, don't

1046
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:53,400
Speaker 2: worry about it.

1047
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 1: So you're just gonna be making money.

1048
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:54,800
Speaker 3: Hello.

1049
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 1: You hear that sound? Diamond making money? It was very

1050
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 1: similar to your flame. Love it, okay? If they want

1051
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 1: to find you online, where do they find you?

1052
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 2: At Diamond Sincere and then on Twitter or x whatever

1053
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 2: at Diamond Sincere with an underscore.

1054
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 1: And I am at Baby Hot Sauce. Please feel free

1055
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:18,360
Speaker 1: ask any questions like, subscribe, follow, leave a review, but

1056
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 1: only if you like us, and we'll be back next week,

1057
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 1: hopefully with the podcast. Andrew has not ruined. Okay, bye

1058
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 1: bye