1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:04,840 Speaker 1: Welcome to Fitness Disrupted, a production of My Heart Radio. 2 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 1: I am Tom Holland, and this is Fitness Disrupted. I 3 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:19,439 Speaker 1: can't tell you how amped up, how angry I am 4 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 1: right now, but I just did, and you're gonna hear 5 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:27,159 Speaker 1: it in the show. You are going to hear it 6 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 1: in the show. What is so crazy about my life 7 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 1: is that on a day like today, I read an 8 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 1: article early this morning, as I tend to do, as 9 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 1: how we start my day, reading the articles on exercise, 10 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 1: and just went berserk, went berserk. I feel bad for 11 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 1: my wife and and my one son who was there 12 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 1: at the time, because I am so angry and got 13 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 1: so angry, and I jumped in my car and I 14 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 1: drove straight to the studio. Luckily, my studio is close 15 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 1: to where I live. And sometimes I actually take a 16 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 1: moment when I'm this amped up to calm down. And 17 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 1: I think that's wrong. And you've heard other shows I 18 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 1: have done in this state of mind, and I think 19 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 1: I'm going to do many more. I hope I don't 20 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 1: have to because of the subject matter, but I feel 21 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 1: I will and I'm not gonna. I don't think I'm 22 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 1: going to. Wait, what am I talking about? Article in 23 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:33,480 Speaker 1: the New York Times Intense strength training does not ease 24 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 1: ny pain, study fines. That's the headline. You know, that's 25 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 1: not a big deal. You're right in and of itself 26 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 1: that that headline is not the big deal. But it 27 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:49,559 Speaker 1: goes much further, and it contradicts ridiculously. And I'm gonna 28 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: do something I've never done on this podcast, just a 29 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 1: new format. I'm gonna read from the article about half 30 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 1: of the article, and then i'm gonna get the study. 31 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 1: I have the study. I'm gonna read to you the 32 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 1: study and what the study actually found, and you're gonna 33 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 1: be shocked and how misinterpreted, how how how it was spun. 34 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 1: And this is why I tell you over and over 35 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 1: on this show that yes, I look at the studies. Yes, 36 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 1: that's my job for you to do the homework that 37 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 1: you're not gonna do, and and even if you could, 38 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:26,080 Speaker 1: you're not gonna understand much of it, depending on your 39 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 1: background and exercise science. But this is insane. And let 40 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 1: me say this, I try really hard not to use 41 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 1: names on this show, and I'm not going to. I'm 42 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:39,799 Speaker 1: not gonna you can figure it out really easily, but listen, 43 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 1: this is the New York Times. And this is an 44 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 1: article that is out in the New York Times, and 45 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 1: it is something that will literally hurt people. I know 46 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 1: that the term literally is totally abused, but in this case, 47 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 1: it is what applicable. So we literally hurt people. Now, 48 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:00,639 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna give you a little more history. I'm 49 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 1: gonna take a deep breath, and then we're gonna get 50 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 1: into it. I'm gonna get angrer again. I actually have 51 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 1: a history with this author, well known history, well not history. 52 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:17,399 Speaker 1: But let me say this. Many years ago, many many 53 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 1: years ago, and I was just starting out in the business, 54 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 1: and and you know, I had been doing, you know, 55 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 1: various things in the industry. There was an article in 56 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 1: the New York Times that talked about non responders to exercise, 57 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:30,359 Speaker 1: that there were literally people that, no matter what they do, 58 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 1: saw no results. And I as I am right now 59 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: to show you how passionate I am about what I 60 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 1: do and how long I have been this passionate decades ago, 61 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 1: and I had the same reaction, and I sat down 62 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 1: and I wrote a letter to the New York Times 63 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 1: and it was published, and it gist was this goes 64 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 1: against everything I have studied and experienced in my lifetime 65 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 1: in the business the overload Prince. If you challenge your body, 66 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 1: it changes, it adapts, It can't not. Now, are there 67 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 1: varying levels and all this, Yeah, sure, but this article 68 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 1: basically said there are people that don't respond at all 69 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:18,159 Speaker 1: to exercise. Ridiculous same author. And then there was another. 70 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:21,159 Speaker 1: One of the first times I was on national TV 71 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:25,839 Speaker 1: was to debunk yet another article in the New York 72 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 1: Times but how to cool yourself down and then how 73 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 1: pouring water on your head was the dumbest thing you 74 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 1: could do that that not only didn't cool you your 75 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:37,919 Speaker 1: yourself down, but it would actually heat you up. And 76 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 1: these articles are well written, and they are researched, and 77 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 1: they have studies. I would argue, in my experience, in 78 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 1: my opinion professional opinion, cherry pick the articles, cherry pick 79 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 1: data and spin it. And I'm gonna give you the 80 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 1: I'm gonna show you exactly how, and it's not hard 81 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:00,120 Speaker 1: to do. But most people are not going to read 82 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 1: past what I'm gonna read you. Let me just give 83 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:07,160 Speaker 1: you the picture literally second time. But I am it's 84 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 1: a picture. So here's the I readie the headline Intense 85 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 1: strength training does not ease knee pain study fines. Then 86 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 1: if you scroll down, there's a picture of I would 87 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 1: argue and will a an elderly gentleman doing squats with 88 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 1: kind of poor form, poor form, and under the guy 89 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:33,239 Speaker 1: squatting with poor form? Is this quote? The verdict appeared 90 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 1: in a new study published this week Strength training does 91 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 1: not seem to help knee pain? Are you if I 92 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 1: swore kidding me? I canna get angry and my heart 93 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 1: rate is you know what I should do? Actually, I 94 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:49,839 Speaker 1: should put a hard rate monitor on when I do 95 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 1: a show like this. Wait a minute, did we just 96 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:56,160 Speaker 1: go from intense strength training does not ease knee pain 97 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:59,559 Speaker 1: study fines to the verdict appeared in a new study 98 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:02,479 Speaker 1: published this week, strength training does not seem to help 99 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 1: me pain? And of people aren't going to read pass 100 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 1: that they're scrolling. I'm going to I'm gonna read to 101 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 1: you from the article, and then I'm gonna read to 102 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:19,480 Speaker 1: you from the actual study. And this is just one. 103 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:23,159 Speaker 1: And I was going to actually give you many other 104 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:26,720 Speaker 1: studies to refute, and they're in my book, by the way, 105 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 1: the micro workout Plan. Study after study about strength training 106 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 1: and osteo arthritis. Then we're gonna talk about, as I 107 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 1: do every show, the common sense, and it's actually in 108 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 1: the study itself. It's there, and it's also in the article. 109 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:44,839 Speaker 1: And what's amazing about this is that these type of authors, 110 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:47,039 Speaker 1: they don't care. They just want the eyes on the article. 111 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 1: The iconoclast. Crunches are bad for you, squats are bad 112 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 1: for you. Come on, all right, I need a break, 113 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 1: quick break. When we come back, I'm gonna get amped up. 114 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 1: We'll be right back talking about what are we talking about? 115 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 1: The very reason I do this show. And I would 116 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 1: argue the very reason I am uniquely qualified to do 117 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 1: this show because I've studied it. I've done it, and 118 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 1: I walked the walk I exercise and coming struggling not 119 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 1: to go deeper into what I know. Let's just say this. 120 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 1: Even these top writers, they're great writers, better better writers 121 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 1: than I. Little to no education in exercise science. Let 122 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 1: me read to you the subtitle. I'm gonna read you 123 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 1: the title again, article Intense strength training does not ease 124 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 1: ny paints. He finds subtitle, millions of patients with the 125 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 1: osteo arthritis are told to exercise. A new study cast 126 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 1: out on what sort of exercise is helpful. Still not horrible, 127 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 1: not horrible. But you scroll a half an inch more 128 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 1: and what jumps out of you a picture. You're gonna 129 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 1: see that picture, and underneath the picture, I'm gonna read 130 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 1: it again. Because most people won't even read the first 131 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 1: sentence of this article. The verdict appeared in a new 132 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 1: study published this week. Strength training does not seem to 133 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 1: help me pain. That is so egregiously offensive to me. 134 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 1: It's just I'm at a loss for words, which isn't 135 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:41,079 Speaker 1: good when you're doing a podcast. Let me just get 136 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 1: right into it. Let me get into it all right again. 137 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 1: Rare that I will read you this much from an article, 138 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 1: but this this needs reading. You need to, you know, 139 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 1: saving you and and then gonna show you, saving you 140 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 1: the time, and they're gonna show you how the spin 141 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 1: is done. Ridiculous. Okay, here go article and I quote. 142 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 1: The idea made so much sense that it was rarely questioned. 143 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 1: Exercise to strength and muscles around the knee helps patients 144 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 1: with osteo arthritis, making it easier and less painful to 145 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 1: move the inflame joint. Nearly of Americans over five have 146 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 1: knee osteo arthritis, and tens of millions of patients have 147 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:23,199 Speaker 1: been instructed to do these exercises. Indeed, the American College 148 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:27,680 Speaker 1: of Rheumatology and the Arthritis Foundation routinely advised strength training 149 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 1: to improve symptoms. You could see the tone if you're 150 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 1: actually gonna read this far, what is the tone saying 151 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 1: they're wrong? You feel it right. Stephen Messier, a professor 152 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 1: of biomechanics at Wake for It's University, believed in the guidance. Again, 153 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 1: believed in oh so it's wrong, but he decided to 154 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 1: put the prescription to the test in a rigorous eighteen 155 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 1: month clinical trial involving three seventy seven participants. The verdict 156 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 1: appeared in a study published this week in Jamma. Strength 157 00:09:57,120 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 1: training did not seem to help knee pain. Now, if 158 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 1: you were the two who read past the picture to 159 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 1: that final sentence of the third paragraph, strength training did 160 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 1: not seem to help knee paint. That is not what 161 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 1: the headline says, and that is not what the study says. 162 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 1: I want to just jump to the study, but I'm not. 163 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 1: We need to read more of this article. That's not 164 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:32,200 Speaker 1: what did the headline say. Intense strength training does not 165 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:35,679 Speaker 1: ease knee pain. And actually that's not what the study 166 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 1: says either so contradicts the headline and then contradicts the study. 167 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:47,320 Speaker 1: Let's continue on. Dr Messier had expected that the group 168 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 1: performing the heavy lifting would fare best and that the 169 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:53,560 Speaker 1: participants who received only counseling. Oh let me, let me 170 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 1: back up. I broke it down for you. So there 171 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 1: were three groups. One group lifted heavyweights three times a week, 172 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 1: another group tried moderate strength training, and a third group 173 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:08,319 Speaker 1: was counseled on healthy living and given instructions on foot care, nutrition, managing, medications, 174 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 1: and better sleep practices. Okay, one group lifted heavy another 175 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 1: group tried moderate strength training, third group counseling. Now I'm 176 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:19,960 Speaker 1: not even gonna get into the specific exercises which are 177 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 1: so important, because it doesn't matter. It just serves to 178 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 1: to make this show longer, and it is unnecessary because 179 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:30,440 Speaker 1: the point is about strength training and pain and about garbage. There. 180 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 1: I went there articles on exercise and nutrition and healthy living, 181 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 1: and these articles are I'm gonna stop, all right, I'm 182 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 1: gonna gather myself. So now you know the three groups. 183 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 1: So here we go. Dr Messier had expected that the 184 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 1: group performing the heavy lifting would fare best, and that 185 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:55,680 Speaker 1: the participants who received only counseling would see no improvement 186 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:57,959 Speaker 1: in need pain, but the outcomes were the same in 187 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 1: all three groups. Everyone report worded slightly less pain. Excuse me, 188 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:08,200 Speaker 1: maybe a hundred people read this far? What did what? 189 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 1: Everyone reported slightly less pain everyone, the ones who lifted heavy, 190 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 1: the ones who lifted moderately, and the ones who received counseling. 191 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? And this is the problem. Well, 192 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 1: the first problem is people don't read. The second problem 193 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 1: is they lie. They just outright lie to get people 194 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 1: to read the article. And that's fine if you're writing 195 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 1: entertainment news people. I find it so egregiously offensive when 196 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 1: it's about people's pain, looking better, feeling better, living longer. Offensive. 197 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 1: We're not done. Everyone reported slightly less pain, including those 198 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 1: whould receive going counseling. A simple placebo effect might explain 199 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 1: why they felt better, he said, or could be something 200 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 1: scientists call a regression to the mean. Our threatst symptoms 201 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:07,440 Speaker 1: tend to surge and subside, and people tend to seek 202 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 1: out treatments when the pain is at its peak. When 203 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 1: it declines, as it would have anyway, they ascribed the 204 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:17,320 Speaker 1: approvement to the treatment. Uh yeah, I'm not gonna do 205 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 1: a deep dive into this either. But that happens with 206 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 1: just about every type of study like this shoulder pain. 207 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:31,319 Speaker 1: Just people seek out treatment when it said it worre 208 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 1: so you have a cold. By the time you take 209 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 1: that remedy, whatever it is, he may have run its course, 210 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 1: but you ascribe the solution to whatever you did the intervention. 211 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:48,320 Speaker 1: So the fact that that's given as the reason because 212 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 1: the control group felt better, they all felt better. We 213 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 1: go on and by the way, what happens six months 214 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:03,080 Speaker 1: from then? My s is, my guess is the strength 215 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:05,319 Speaker 1: training group will feel better than the group that doesn't. 216 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 1: That's my gas based on innumerable studies as well and 217 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 1: common sense, which we will get to. The article goes 218 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 1: on the natural history of osteoarthritis of the knee includes 219 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:18,439 Speaker 1: waxing and waning of symptoms, said Dr Adolph Yates, vice 220 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 1: chair of orthopedic surgery at the University of Pittsburgh School 221 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 1: of Medicine, who was not associated with the study. It's 222 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 1: what makes studying osteoarthritis of the knee interventions difficult, No, 223 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 1: it's it's what makes studying anything difficult. But you don't 224 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 1: come out with the conclusions that you did here, which 225 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 1: makes studying any intervention difficult, especially exercise and nutrition. Article 226 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 1: goes on. Patients tend to resist advice to exercise at all, 227 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 1: said Dr Robert Marks, a professor of orthopedic surgery at 228 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 1: while Cornell Medical College in New York City. They want 229 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 1: a reason not to exercise, asking will it make my 230 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 1: authritis better? Will it make my X rays better? Yes? 231 00:14:56,320 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 1: And this author loves giving reasons not to exercise. Don't 232 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 1: do it because you're a non responder. You're not seeing results. 233 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 1: Because you're a nonresponser, you're not going to see results. Impossible, 234 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 1: impossible to not see. And I'll throw a negative like 235 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 1: not respond to exercise. No, it's articles like this that 236 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 1: give people a reason not to exercise. The article goes on, 237 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 1: though here we go point number two, refuting the article 238 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 1: supremis in and of itself. He tells them that the 239 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 1: answer to the questions is no. But the exercise stabilizes 240 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 1: the joints. Although it is not as effective against pain 241 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 1: as anti inflammatory drugs, it is one piece of our 242 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:49,119 Speaker 1: thrightist treatment. Excuse me. Although it is not as effective 243 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 1: against pain as anti inflammatory drugs, it is one piece 244 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 1: of our thris treatment. And guess what the anti inflammatory 245 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 1: drug is feeling with the symptoms, not the causes. Dr David, 246 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 1: that was my line. By the way, the article goes on. 247 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 1: Dr David Felson, a professor of medicine at Boston University, 248 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 1: argued that the study did not find strength training was useless. 249 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 1: Oh thank goodness. But instead the trial showed that very 250 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 1: aggressive strength training was not helpful and might actually be harmful, 251 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 1: he said, especially with the arthritic needs our abode inward 252 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 1: or outward. As his comment, I'm gonna read you the 253 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 1: quick findings, the abstract and the conclusions and things like that. 254 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 1: But to put a line and and it refutes most 255 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 1: of that, that's a stretch. But argued that the study 256 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 1: did not find strength training was useless. Um, how about 257 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 1: excessive moderation? Can we go there? How about bad form 258 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:59,359 Speaker 1: I have seen see. Can't even get into the exercises 259 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:05,920 Speaker 1: involved in this study, the weightlifted, the people overseeing these exercises, 260 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:11,200 Speaker 1: the fitness level of the people to begin with. You 261 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:13,959 Speaker 1: know that doesn't make a difference in a study like, 262 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 1: Yes it does, but it's not talked about. All right, 263 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:22,920 Speaker 1: I'm gonna read you a couple more paragraphs here, we 264 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 1: go for Dr Messier, who has been researching our thrace 265 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 1: and exercise for over thirty years. The new findings are 266 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 1: a bit of a departure, a departure from what a 267 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 1: departure from his research? Okay, His first study, published in GM, 268 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:36,400 Speaker 1: found that exercise groups had less pain in the end 269 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:41,680 Speaker 1: than the control group. This is this is this is amazing. 270 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 1: Ye deep breath, I'm gonna read it again. Finish the paragraph. 271 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:49,879 Speaker 1: He found that exercise groups had less been in the 272 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:51,879 Speaker 1: end than the control group. But that was not really 273 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:55,439 Speaker 1: because the participants improved. It was because those in the 274 00:17:55,440 --> 00:18:00,879 Speaker 1: control group got worse. Are you at split of kidding me? 275 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 1: What does get better mean? So if I'm reading this correctly, 276 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:14,639 Speaker 1: so it's saying it prevented it from getting worse, But 277 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 1: that's not important. What does it get better mean? And 278 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 1: if we're living five and the studies, by the way, 279 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 1: average age in the study, So again, you're not even 280 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:34,879 Speaker 1: talking about the levels of austri arthritis. Obviously this is 281 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:37,160 Speaker 1: controlled for with the pain scales they use and things 282 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:43,359 Speaker 1: like that. But there's so much going on here. Those 283 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:47,679 Speaker 1: in the control group got worse, so the people who didn't. 284 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:50,679 Speaker 1: You just refute that it doesn't help with stability of 285 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 1: the knee. And actually I left out so much here 286 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 1: because it doesn't need to confuse you. The control group 287 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 1: of people who didn't exercise got worse. Oh okay, let's 288 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 1: go on. He also noticed that half of the participants 289 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:07,440 Speaker 1: in his study were overweight or obese. What if we 290 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:11,359 Speaker 1: added weight loss to exercise? Oh, you mean, carrying around 291 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 1: excess weight twenty four hours a day might be worse 292 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 1: than doing a couple of squads or running three miles. 293 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:24,639 Speaker 1: Carrying around significant excess weight might be tough on the joints. 294 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 1: But he had long wondered whether the intensity of strength 295 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 1: training matter, and in previous studies, participants had used weights 296 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:32,200 Speaker 1: that fell far short of what they could actually lift. 297 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:35,640 Speaker 1: The trials lasted six to twenty four weeks, and patients 298 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:40,680 Speaker 1: showed only modest improvements in pain and functioning. Wait. Wait, wait, 299 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 1: modest improvements in pain and functioning. Wait, pain and functioning. Now, 300 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 1: let me we go back. I'm gonna bore you to death. 301 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:49,639 Speaker 1: Let me read the quote under the picture. The verdict 302 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 1: appeared in new study published this week. Strength training does 303 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 1: not seem to help me pain. How many times is 304 00:19:57,040 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 1: the author themselves, refuting themselves and and serving to confuse you. 305 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:09,159 Speaker 1: I mean, listen, I love doing what I do, but 306 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 1: I get really tired of this, especially in something that 307 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 1: is highly regarded media outlet. A lot of people are 308 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 1: going to see patients showed only modest Oh gosh, so 309 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:28,920 Speaker 1: modest improvement. That doesn't help modest improvement. Despite the new 310 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:36,199 Speaker 1: unexpected results, Dr Messier still urges patients to exercise. What 311 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 1: why would we do it? You told us it doesn't 312 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter, it doesn't help, it doesn't Why are 313 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 1: we going to do something that you told us doesn't help? 314 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 1: Strength training does not seem to help me pain. Why 315 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 1: were you to do something that doesn't help? We're busy people. 316 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? It goes on the last couple 317 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:58,879 Speaker 1: of lines. It can stave off an inevitable decline in 318 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:03,919 Speaker 1: muscle strength and mobility. Here's the kicker. I'm gonna end 319 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 1: here with reading the article because I get really angry. 320 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 1: This is in red in my notes, But now it 321 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 1: seems clear there is no particular advantage to strength training 322 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:20,399 Speaker 1: with heavy weights instead of moderate intensity routine with more 323 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:23,639 Speaker 1: repetitions and lighter weights. First of all, it is not 324 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 1: clear no scientists would ever go, oh, it's clear based 325 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 1: on this study that refutes so many others. But now 326 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 1: it seems clear there's no particular advantage of strengthening with 327 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 1: heavyweight But wait a minute. Now you're back to heavyweights. 328 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:42,639 Speaker 1: Before it was strength training. Period. I'm gonna read it 329 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 1: to you one more time. You're going to time. You're 330 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:46,920 Speaker 1: killing me. I don't care. Strength training does not seem 331 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 1: to help me pain. Oh no, but just to finish 332 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 1: the art because that this author is gonna pull it back, 333 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:58,400 Speaker 1: and I would argue smart enough to know that they've 334 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:01,119 Speaker 1: contradicted themselves over and over. Let's let's bring it all home. 335 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 1: Because no one's gotten to this part. No one's read 336 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:07,359 Speaker 1: this far. Why would you, says I should? You know, 337 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 1: no reason to strength train, but now it seems clear 338 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:13,200 Speaker 1: there's no particular advantage to strength training with heavy weights 339 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:16,399 Speaker 1: instead of modern intensity ways with more repertures. I got 340 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 1: one final sentence. I lied, here it is, but he 341 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:22,920 Speaker 1: added he believes the best non pharmaceutical intervention for knee 342 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:26,359 Speaker 1: arth threats pain is a ten percent weight loss and 343 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:33,879 Speaker 1: moderate exercise. Like, how dare these articles get printed? Okay, 344 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 1: you know what final break I'm gonna like take a 345 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 1: quick nap and calm down, and then I'm gonna read 346 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 1: you real quickly the study, and it's gonna show you 347 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:52,400 Speaker 1: why you're so confused, and it's not your fault. It's 348 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 1: not your fault, and shame on these people for writing 349 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:58,360 Speaker 1: these articles because they know better. Listen, there are many 350 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 1: people out there that don't know any better. I've done 351 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 1: probably of my shows or from people who are just 352 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 1: trying to make money and don't know any better. Some do, 353 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:09,719 Speaker 1: some know they're lying to you, but many actually get 354 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:11,880 Speaker 1: a little bit of science and they don't know how 355 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 1: to interpret it. They misinterpret it. Perfect example I'm using 356 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 1: all the time now is the exercising in the cold. 357 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:19,680 Speaker 1: Exercising the cold burns four times more calories. Will know 358 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 1: once you are warm enough, once you warm up from exercise, 359 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 1: once you go outside all bundled up, its meaningless. People 360 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:28,159 Speaker 1: you need to be shivering. That's a perfect example of 361 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 1: someone who actually has a little bit of information but 362 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 1: doesn't know how to interpret it. Quick break, we'll be 363 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 1: right back. Title of the study that this article cited 364 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 1: kind of is effect of high intensity strength training on 365 00:23:57,359 --> 00:24:01,200 Speaker 1: knee pain and knee joint compressive forces of adults with 366 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 1: n osteo arthritis. And I'm gonna go just right through 367 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:10,359 Speaker 1: the abstract for you because many of you, most of 368 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 1: you will never read something like this, and you don't 369 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:14,639 Speaker 1: have to listen to my show. Don't waste your time. 370 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:17,160 Speaker 1: I will do it for you. Okay, question they ask, 371 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:20,920 Speaker 1: is high intensity strength training more effective than low intensity 372 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:24,160 Speaker 1: strength training and attention control for the outcomes of knee pain? 373 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:29,200 Speaker 1: Blah blah blah. Findings in this randomized clinical trial involving 374 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 1: three and at seventy seven participants with the osteo arthritis, 375 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 1: high intensity strength training compared with low intensity strength training 376 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 1: and an attention control did not significantly improve knee pain 377 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 1: or need you do it? Compressive forces at eighteen months 378 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:46,679 Speaker 1: did not significantly didn't say it didn't work, And the 379 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:48,879 Speaker 1: meaning they have in this one is these findings do 380 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 1: not support the use of high intensity strength training over 381 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 1: all intensity strength training or attention control and adults within 382 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:58,399 Speaker 1: the osteo arthritis. Okay, how many times do I have 383 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 1: to throw the term excessive model ration out to you 384 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:09,159 Speaker 1: and risk reward with exercises? And I'm I'm not saying 385 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 1: high intensity strength training I'm not gonna get into the 386 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 1: specifics of the exercises for this show. I will in 387 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:18,880 Speaker 1: future shows because that's not what we need to focus on, 388 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 1: the misinformation, the twisting of the headline. But I'm gonna 389 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 1: throw in the excessive moderation. This is why when people say, Tom, 390 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 1: your workout routines are too easy. I don't want to 391 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 1: hurt myself. I want the benefit, the greatest benefit possible, 392 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:37,200 Speaker 1: with the least likelihood of injury. I still do high 393 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 1: intensity stuff. I throw plyometric jumps in. They're really important 394 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 1: at fifty two that I do them. I don't do 395 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 1: six foot boxes. I don't need to put that on Instagram. 396 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 1: But I do moderate intensity, high intent, whatever you want 397 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:55,719 Speaker 1: to call it. But I do it sparingly, progressively, and intelligently. Okay, 398 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 1: let me finish up this study. Uh we go. The 399 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 1: abstract importance importance. Thigh muscle weakness is associated with need 400 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:07,639 Speaker 1: discomfort and osteoarthritis disease progression. Let me read that to 401 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:11,119 Speaker 1: you again. Thigh muscle weakness is associated with new discomfort 402 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:18,359 Speaker 1: and osteo arthritis disease prevention. This is where common sense 403 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:20,400 Speaker 1: comes in. People, I will do it for you. If 404 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 1: you can't make that step. Strength training does what strengthens, 405 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,919 Speaker 1: So thigh muscle weakness is associated with needs comfort and 406 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:33,879 Speaker 1: osteo authritis. The less strength training you do, the weaker 407 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 1: you get, the more pain you have. Obscene obscene article 408 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 1: it goes on. Little is known about the efficacy of 409 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 1: high intensity strength training and patients they don't say glugle 410 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 1: is known about the efficacy of strength training. No high 411 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:50,160 Speaker 1: intensity strength training and whether it may worse than need symptoms. Yeah, 412 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 1: guess what if you have really bad osteoarthritis, let me 413 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 1: just go there, and your trainer on day one is 414 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 1: having you do really high box jumps and things like that. 415 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:06,400 Speaker 1: That's a problem. But the problem is not the exercise itself. 416 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 1: It's the progression, and it's the base of strength that 417 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:11,680 Speaker 1: you don't have yet and the mechanics to do it correctly. 418 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:15,440 Speaker 1: And this is why I get angry with trainers who 419 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,439 Speaker 1: push people too hard too soon. That's easy, people, the 420 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 1: world's toughest trainer I can do that to make you 421 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 1: do a hundred of something hundred burbes. So I'm keeping 422 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 1: how hard is that? You know? It's really hard is 423 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 1: to keep a client when you're charging a lot of money. 424 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:34,639 Speaker 1: What you're doing the basics, that's difficult, that's what works. 425 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:42,480 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, how it's like the results. Let me 426 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:48,920 Speaker 1: just go to the results among seven randomized participants mean 427 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 1: age sixty five years, pain scores at the eighteen month 428 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 1: follow up. We're not statistically significantly different between the high 429 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 1: intensity group and the control group. Not that strength training 430 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:12,160 Speaker 1: doesn't work, not that modern intensity strength training is better, 431 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:22,440 Speaker 1: but that the results were not statistically significantly different. Yeah, 432 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it one final time. Let me read 433 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 1: to you that line from under the picture of the 434 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:30,199 Speaker 1: guy squatting with bad form. The verdict appeared in a 435 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 1: new study published this week's strength training does not seem 436 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 1: to help need pain. How dare they? I mean, that's it. 437 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 1: I'm worked up, but I hope and I know that 438 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 1: this should show you. This is the New York Times. 439 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 1: Imagine what you're reading on a blog or from someone 440 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 1: who's got sixteen million in views, because they're the iconoclass 441 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 1: that says crunches are horrible for you. And I have 442 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:06,960 Speaker 1: these people reach out to me all the time. And 443 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 1: by the way, by the way, I am fighting the 444 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 1: urge to interview these people and maybe I do it 445 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 1: in the future. Bring them on. Do you want to 446 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:23,479 Speaker 1: hear that? You want me to bring these people on? 447 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 1: Because there are very few people again who have the 448 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 1: education experience that I have to be. You go, why 449 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 1: aren't they called out? Because to make a living and 450 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 1: doing what I do, it's not easy. There's no like 451 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,920 Speaker 1: high paying jobs for exercise physiologists. The amount invested in 452 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 1: time and then you have to fight this stuff. There's 453 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:47,239 Speaker 1: very few people. So I may do that too. And 454 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 1: I have a list of guests that I would love 455 00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 1: to have on and it's not about being antagonistic people, 456 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 1: it's just talking the science with them. And and I 457 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:04,240 Speaker 1: would love to do an interview like this. Good Why 458 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 1: don't you I also you know, story for another day? 459 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 1: Uh what do you think? That should blow you away? 460 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:15,960 Speaker 1: And that should show you exactly what this shows about 461 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:19,360 Speaker 1: and what I'm going to bring to you and how 462 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 1: important it is to get your information. Well, I was 463 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 1: gonna say from a reliable source to to it's getting 464 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 1: harder and harder. It's getting harder and harder because at 465 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 1: looks like The New York Times are competing against those 466 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 1: other sites and the iconoclastic article headline is the one 467 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 1: that's going to jump out at you. You're not going 468 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,960 Speaker 1: to read it, and even if you do, it's going 469 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:53,600 Speaker 1: to confuse you. This article is so contradictory on so 470 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,880 Speaker 1: many levels as I showed you, and you're certainly not 471 00:30:56,920 --> 00:31:02,479 Speaker 1: going to go read the study and to hake that study, 472 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:05,480 Speaker 1: and I won't read it to one more time, even 473 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:12,720 Speaker 1: though I want to. Strength training done efficiently and effectively 474 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 1: and progressively and intelligently makes the muscles around your joints stronger, 475 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 1: more stable. When they're stronger and more stable, it says 476 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:28,480 Speaker 1: it right there in the study, less pain, the bones 477 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:33,560 Speaker 1: are going to rub less people cartilage wearing it down. 478 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 1: People who run have a lower incidence of osteoar threats 479 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:42,120 Speaker 1: than people who don't. One of the first shows I 480 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:49,240 Speaker 1: did enough who Are That, was I'm Not a Marine? 481 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:55,720 Speaker 1: It just came out all right. If you have comments, questions, 482 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 1: or want me to start interviewing people like this, which 483 00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 1: maybe maybe the the way to go make me feel 484 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:07,280 Speaker 1: better or worse, reach out Tom h fit is Instagram 485 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 1: and Twitter. 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I don't want you 496 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 1: to listen to this information so that when you're nine 497 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 1: d you're in pain because you read this garbage. We 498 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:53,600 Speaker 1: control three things, how much we move, what we put 499 00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 1: into our mouths, and our attitudes. And let me say 500 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 1: this throwing a fourth one for today. We also control 501 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:04,800 Speaker 1: the information we take in. Be very careful the information 502 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:08,720 Speaker 1: you take in, question it and ask the right people 503 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 1: what they think about it. I am Tom Holland. This 504 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:20,560 Speaker 1: is Fitness Disrupted, Believe in Yourself. Fitness Disrupted is a 505 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,960 Speaker 1: production of I Heart Radio. 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