1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,280 Speaker 1: And now it's way more diverse at which I love, 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 1: and it's so beautiful and there's like groups that are 3 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:10,160 Speaker 1: performing that are all black women or all Latina women, 4 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: or it's like so many brown like colorful faces in 5 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 1: the scene. And yeah, I think I think there's like 6 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:21,440 Speaker 1: more space being made for that, and I'm glad the 7 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 1: times are changing in a way that's trending up, wording up, 8 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 1: warding up. 9 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 2: The think about improv. In my opinion, it's extremely difficult 10 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:31,320 Speaker 2: and when I meet someone who can do it at 11 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 2: a high level, I'm always impressed. This is why I 12 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:37,200 Speaker 2: think you guys will enjoy this edition of Naked, which 13 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 2: Saser Tomato. 14 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:51,880 Speaker 3: It's the greatest suspersion entertainment can Naked win Every champion. 15 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 4: And carry Champion is to be a champion. 16 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 3: A champion, they carry Champion, Champion, they carry chappion, they 17 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 3: carry chat be greatest suspion work. 18 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 2: Today on the Naked Podcast we have comedian actress and 19 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 2: writers Sashi Zamada. 20 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 5: You may know her from. 21 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:09,319 Speaker 2: Her work on Saturday Night Live or for one of 22 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 2: her roles on ABC's Home Economics or Hulus Woke. Shashier 23 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 2: is releasing a brand new special entitled The First Woman 24 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 2: on August fifteenth, and this is the first special that 25 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 2: she has produced. She has total control and she talks 26 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 2: about it here today on the podcast, You're going to 27 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 2: hear about her background, how she developed her comedy Chops, 28 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:30,039 Speaker 2: and so much more. 29 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 5: Here is Shashi Zameida and her Naked. 30 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:37,040 Speaker 4: True Champion and Cared Chepian and care with Chevy. 31 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:39,320 Speaker 5: I am excited to have you here. 32 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 2: I think that is interesting when I get the opportunity 33 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:46,119 Speaker 2: to interview comedians, people who are writers. I've been able 34 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 2: to throughout the years in the business develop friendships with 35 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 2: different folks. I want to know what inspired you to 36 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 2: say this is what I want to do. Was there 37 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 2: a moment in your childhood where you watched a certain 38 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 2: show or a fan of a certain person and said, 39 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 2: this is the career I would like to pursue. 40 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 1: Oh, I was a fan of so much comedy. I 41 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:11,919 Speaker 1: watched Mad TV, SNL Whose Line is it Anyway? Late 42 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 1: Night with Conan O'Brien. I just watched so much comedy 43 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 1: and the person who probably inspired me the most was 44 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 1: Deborah Wilson from Mad TV. She's huh hilarious and her 45 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 1: impressions were so spot on she's a killer Whitney Houston. 46 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 1: But seeing a black woman doing sketch, I was like, Ooh, 47 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 1: that's a possibility. I didn't know. And even though I 48 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:36,399 Speaker 1: thought all those people were hilarious, I didn't know how 49 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 1: they got jobs doing that. I didn't really think of 50 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 1: it like an actual possibility for me. But then when 51 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:46,799 Speaker 1: I got to college, I started doing improv, and then 52 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 1: started doing improv in New York and started realizing, Oh, 53 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 1: the people that I admire are taking the same route 54 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 1: that I'm just taking because I wanted to take it, 55 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 1: because I was having fun doing this thing. And the 56 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 1: more I performed improv and sketch, the more people took 57 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 1: notice of me. And then I started booking commercials and 58 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 1: booking TV gigs here and there, and yeah, kind of 59 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 1: tumbled into a full career. 60 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 2: When you say you started taking improv in college, I 61 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:17,080 Speaker 2: often wonder what that means. For the lay man. Improv 62 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 2: would be improvisational classes. But how does one stumble upon 63 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 2: that in school and say, oh, I want to do that. Yeah, 64 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 2: and I want to learn how to improv. It's so foreign. 65 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 2: It's a foreign concept to me. 66 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's well, there's many different ways to get into it. 67 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 2: It. 68 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 1: Actually the first time I saw improv was in middle school. 69 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 1: There was a improv team in downtown Indianapolis called Comedy Sports, 70 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 1: and they do a lot of short form games where 71 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 1: the last the audience for a suggestion and then just 72 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 1: like come up with things off the dome and like 73 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 1: play these games. And I was like, oh my god, 74 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 1: like this is magic. I can't believe they're just like 75 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 1: making it up on the spot. And I actually did 76 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 1: audition for my high school improv t and made it, 77 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 1: but then I quit because it was the same. The 78 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 1: rehearsals are the same time as my show a choir rehearsals, 79 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 1: and so acchoir as my life. At the time, I 80 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 1: couldn't give that up. And then when I got to college, 81 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:18,279 Speaker 1: there was an improv team and one of my musical 82 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 1: directors was like, oh, you should audition for the improv 83 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 1: team because you're so funny. And I auditioned and did 84 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 1: not get cast. But then I created my own improv 85 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 1: team that's still going at the college and now there's 86 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 1: two or at least two, I don't know how many 87 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:36,720 Speaker 1: there are now. And then when I moved to New York, 88 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:39,159 Speaker 1: there's a school for it. There's a school called the 89 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:44,840 Speaker 1: Upright Citisens Brigade Theater and they have classes in improv sketch, 90 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 1: character classes, writing classes, and I found kind of a 91 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 1: community of people that I liked there and stayed there 92 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 1: for years and got a lot of opportunities from it. 93 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 2: U se be Upright Citizens Brigade has a lot of 94 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 2: famous alumni I know from my understanding. Some of the 95 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 2: people who are great actors I know were a part 96 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 2: of said entity. Is it hard to get into or 97 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 2: is it something where you have to audition or if 98 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 2: you have the money, you can do it. 99 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 1: If you have the money, anyone can take a class. 100 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:22,599 Speaker 1: They're like, we also accept anyone's money, please, but you 101 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 1: do have to ugue green works here, Yes, exactly, well, 102 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 1: the color we like is green, but they do accept. 103 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:33,839 Speaker 1: And then to get on stage there to like perform regularly, 104 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:36,839 Speaker 1: you do have to audition for that. And I auditioned 105 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:39,919 Speaker 1: for a house team like when I first got there, 106 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 1: and I didn't make it, And then I guess kind 107 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:44,279 Speaker 1: of the same thing as I did in college. I 108 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:48,279 Speaker 1: just created my own team with Nicole Byer and Keisha Zaller, 109 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 1: who are two hilarious black women and we kind of 110 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 1: like made waves of the New York improv scene when 111 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 1: we were coming up, and then eventually the theater thought 112 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:01,280 Speaker 1: we were great. They agree with the audience and they 113 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 1: thought we were great, and then they ended up giving 114 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:05,280 Speaker 1: us our own night at the theater, which was actually 115 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 1: better than auditioning and just making a team. We created 116 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:12,040 Speaker 1: our own thing and they were like, oh, this is undeniable, 117 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 1: you have to perform here. 118 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 2: That's a wonderful feeling to be recognized for what you 119 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:19,160 Speaker 2: love to do. I wonder and you mentioned being one 120 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 2: of a few black women in improv, and you saw 121 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 2: a black woman in improv growing up, and once you 122 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:24,840 Speaker 2: see it, you can believe it and you know you 123 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 2: can do it. Is that a rare space for black 124 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 2: women improvisation? 125 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 1: It definitely was when I was coming up. I feel 126 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 1: like I saw like maybe two black people on that 127 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 1: stage at the UCB stage when I was starting. And 128 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 1: now it's way more diverse at which I love, and 129 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 1: it's so beautiful, and there's like groups that are performing 130 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 1: that are all black women or all Latina women, or 131 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:52,160 Speaker 1: it's just like so many brown, like colorful faces in 132 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 1: the scene. And yeah, I think there's like more space 133 00:06:57,160 --> 00:07:01,480 Speaker 1: being made for that. Glad the times are changing in 134 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 1: a way that's trending upward. 135 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:04,280 Speaker 5: What is it? 136 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 2: I think what I guess what I'm asking is what 137 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 2: is it about that, especially when you were coming up, 138 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 2: that you felt like you couldn't see a lot of us, 139 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 2: Like when you were you're like, oh, black women doing improv? 140 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 2: Is that a space that is avoided, not welcoming, unfamiliar, 141 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 2: not traditional? What is it about that space that made 142 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 2: it rare at the time? 143 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 1: I think because black women. Yeah, I think because it 144 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 1: was so white and so male. A lot of the 145 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 1: humor and references that were being made on stage were 146 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 1: that we're very white and male. Like I've definitely been 147 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 1: with black women at improv shows where they're like I 148 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 1: don't get it, Like I don't understand do I actually 149 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 1: just to watch Star Wars to understand all these jokes? 150 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 1: Like yeah, yeah, So it's like it it doesn't feel 151 00:07:56,040 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 1: like a place where you can like get in into 152 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 1: because you're like, I don't even know if we have 153 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:05,679 Speaker 1: a basic understanding of things, because when you're doing improv, 154 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 1: all you're doing is pulling from your life, like you're 155 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 1: pulling from your past, your experiences, your your lived life, 156 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 1: and like trying to make humor out of it. And 157 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 1: if you're you're a person who has a life that's 158 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 1: maybe very different from another person you're on stage with, 159 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 1: you might have a hard time trying to match that humor. 160 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 1: It's not impossible, And like, the beauty of improv is 161 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 1: that you can smash all your differences together and make 162 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 1: something really really cool. It's just like a roll of 163 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 1: the dice. But I think I can see why a 164 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 1: lot of black people or other people of color would 165 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:43,559 Speaker 1: go to a show and be like, this is not 166 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 1: for me, this is not my environment. 167 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 5: You can see, Oh that's good, Okay, good, that's fair. 168 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 5: That's fair. Okay. 169 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 2: So then then once you once you are undeniable your words, 170 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 2: and I love that when people are recognizing the talent 171 00:08:56,840 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 2: that you're creating and you're allowing yourself. I really truly 172 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 2: honor anybody who's passionate about something, because, believe it or not, 173 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 2: it's hard to find your passion. Yeah, most people don't 174 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 2: know what that is. And you are fortunate and so 175 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 2: so blessed to know what you do and why you 176 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 2: were placed on this place called planet Earth. Do you 177 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 2: now know as you look at your career, and I'm 178 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 2: going to go over some of the highlights that I 179 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:23,199 Speaker 2: know of, do you now know that this was what 180 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 2: you have been meant and designed to do? Beginning with 181 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 2: being on SNL. You made history. There were headlines and 182 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 2: people said, wow, this is the first regular that is 183 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 2: a black woman. And I've talked to Sam Jay, I've 184 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:38,439 Speaker 2: talked to Jay Farrell. I've talked to a lot of 185 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 2: black alumni except for Eddie Murphy but Chris rock right, 186 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 2: those of the two. I haven't talked to you, no kidding, 187 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 2: but they all talk about that experience and it's how 188 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 2: tough it is to do that in that particular environment. 189 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 2: I describe your journey while they are and with all 190 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 2: this pressure or perhaps self impost pressure of being the first. 191 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 1: Well, I actually wasn't the first. I was the fifth. 192 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:11,559 Speaker 1: There was Yvonne Hudson, the meetra Vance. 193 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 5: What did I What didn't I read that said you 194 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 5: were the first to do? Though? Was you weren't a 195 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 5: first regular? 196 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 4: M M. 197 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 1: I think I think some headlines are saying like I 198 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 1: was the first since maya rootoph or something. I'm not sure. 199 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 1: They probably cobbled some words together because people love having 200 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:34,199 Speaker 1: the first in their head exactly, the first natural. 201 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 2: How about one of the first, first, one of the first, 202 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 2: one of the first, that'll be better than correction. 203 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I mean yeah, actually I'd probably be one 204 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:49,479 Speaker 1: of the first, but also definitely don't want to overlook 205 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 1: the other women who've come before me. 206 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 5: The great the other one who can of course of course. 207 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. And then and it was I was auditioning 208 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 1: for the show before that point, like I think my 209 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 1: first audition was maybe twenty eleven or twelve, and then 210 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 1: into twenty thirteen is when the media started shaming the 211 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:18,320 Speaker 1: show for their lack of diversity, and the show wanted 212 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 1: to have a very public response to that, and so 213 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 1: they kind of put together a audition with black female comics. 214 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 1: And also it was like it was kind of just 215 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 1: cool to also see all the other women who were auditioning, 216 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 1: because I was like, damn, look at us, like, look 217 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 1: at all of us killing it like that we all 218 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 1: are here, We're all at this level and all hilarious, 219 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 1: and yeah, that was nice to see. And then I 220 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 1: got hired and Leslie got hired. Leslie Jones got hired 221 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 1: as a writer that year. In the next year, Yeah, 222 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 1: got cast as a cast member, and yeah, I was 223 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 1: just glad to be on the show. It was a 224 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:56,960 Speaker 1: strange way to get casts on the show, but I 225 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:59,200 Speaker 1: was definitely glad to be there. That was like my 226 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 1: dream since I was a child. And yeah, and just 227 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 1: being on the show also was like true boot camp. 228 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:10,680 Speaker 1: Like everyone has to write. I don't think everyone knows that, 229 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 1: Like if you're a performer on the show, you also 230 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:15,839 Speaker 1: have to write for yourself. And I feel like by 231 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 1: the time I left, like I was a better writer, 232 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 1: I was a better collaborator. I was a better communicator 233 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 1: of my ideas. I could advocate for myself, like they 234 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 1: really trains you for anything. And I left feeling like 235 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 1: I could do anything. And anything else I've done has 236 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 1: been like cake in comparison to that show. 237 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 5: How much pressure? How much pressure is that? 238 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 4: Meaning? 239 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:39,680 Speaker 2: Like you have to write for yourself, so you have 240 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 2: to sit at a table. I don't know, you just 241 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 2: hear the stories and you read the story. You sit 242 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 2: at a table and you have to present what you 243 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:50,320 Speaker 2: think is funny and oftentimes maybe oh, I remember listening 244 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 2: to an interview and I don't know if Janet was 245 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 2: guest hosting, but it's like, impress me, make me laugh 246 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 2: if you want, if this to for this sketch to 247 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:01,440 Speaker 2: go through. Which pressure is that to sit there and 248 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 2: be like, all right, make me laugh, you know, in 249 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 2: a room full of people who are trained to be 250 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 2: like I don't know if that's funny, you know, or 251 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:12,199 Speaker 2: really that's the the hazing of it all. When you're 252 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 2: learning is did you feel like Jev not in your 253 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:17,680 Speaker 2: stomach or were you excited for the moment when it 254 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:20,359 Speaker 2: came your turn, or were you like, here we go, 255 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 2: I gotta make this work. 256 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 1: I mean, I was excited. And I also think there's 257 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:28,080 Speaker 1: like everyone had a low level of anxiety just from 258 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 1: being there. But I don't think the show intentionally was 259 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:35,560 Speaker 1: trying to like haze anyone or like, I don't know, 260 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 1: make anyone pay their dues. Everyone wants you there, like 261 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 1: they hire They hire you because I think you're funny 262 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 1: and they want you to do a good job. So 263 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 1: I did feel like generally people want you to win. 264 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 1: There are some weeks where you're not going to and 265 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 1: there's many factors as to why you wouldn't, but and 266 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:55,959 Speaker 1: I don't even know half of them, but they do 267 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 1: want you to do good, and they do want you 268 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:00,160 Speaker 1: there for a reason. They're out there to just like 269 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 1: torture you. 270 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 2: So I guess, well, that's good to know, right, Torturing 271 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 2: is not our thing. Okay, So so for four years 272 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 2: this is your your life experience. Did your family and 273 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 2: friends think you were really rich? And did they ask 274 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 2: you for like five dollars? Do were people like, hey, 275 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 2: you got to get dinner. Now you're on Saturday Night Live. 276 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 2: We don't have any money? Tell me that because you 277 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 2: it's it, literally is a role that is coveted by 278 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 2: so many, especially in the profession that you get. 279 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 5: So people are thinking she's made it, She's rich. At 280 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 5: least that's what I'm saying. 281 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, my family definitely thought I made it and 282 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 1: definitely asked for way more than five dollars. And what 283 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 1: they don't know is that SML is one of the 284 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 1: worst paying jobs. It just is. And I was like, 285 00:14:56,400 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 1: I made it question Mark TV, but it didn't feel. 286 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 5: Like it clearly that means I'm rich. I want TV. 287 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, don't you know we're all rich? 288 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 5: Yeah. 289 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 1: I think I think they were like, it's an honor, so, 290 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 1: you know, rich with honor not so much. 291 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 2: Hey, everybody who gotta pay some bills. You know, it's 292 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 2: often that we have to do this on this show. 293 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 2: So you can fast forward and press that little fifteen 294 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 2: second button until it's done. 295 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 5: Thank you for listening, and we'll be right back. 296 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 3: Every Champion and carry Champions to be a champion outa Champion, 297 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 3: and Cary Chappion and carry Chappy out a Champion and 298 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:42,359 Speaker 3: carry Chappion and Carrie. 299 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 4: Chppy Entertainment can make it work. 300 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 3: Kerry Champion and Carrie Chappion is to be a Championta 301 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 3: Champion and Carrie Chappion got a champion, and carry Chappion 302 00:15:59,480 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 3: and Carrie. 303 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 2: Hey, everybody, thank you for fast forwarding past those commercials. 304 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 2: We still have just year Zamda here on the podcast. 305 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 2: She's an actress, she's a writer, she's a comedian. She 306 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 2: has her own comedy special that she produced coming out 307 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 2: and a couple of weeks, so make sure you support it. 308 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 2: But more importantly, listener, she talks about the writers' strike 309 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 2: and they and the fact that it is really truly 310 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 2: disturbing what's happening for actors and writers in this moment 311 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 2: in Hollywood, and how you can't support you leaves an L. 312 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 2: I always think of that. I liken it to my 313 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 2: time at ESPN. It definitely it was for me. I 314 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 2: describe it as hazing for me. I describe it as 315 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 2: the best job that I could ever have, and it 316 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 2: made me best. It made me great in all things. 317 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 2: It really did. Whether it was you know, under fire 318 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 2: or just because of it was lack of experience. I 319 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 2: just learned so much and I'm really I always stay 320 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 2: grateful for those experiences. But when I when I left, 321 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 2: I felt very free. What was your what was your 322 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 2: revelation when you moved on for NL? Oh? 323 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I also felt very very free and and yeah, 324 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:08,920 Speaker 1: and really felt like I'm just ready for the next thing. 325 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 1: And I didn't have a plan. It's not like I 326 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 1: left and I was like all right, thank god, I 327 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 1: have this on the back burner. I just left and 328 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:20,359 Speaker 1: like jumped off a cliff and was like, I hope 329 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:24,919 Speaker 1: something catches me. But what I'm glad for is that 330 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 1: SNL did propel me to a level where people could 331 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 1: recognize me and and also recognized my talent. So it 332 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 1: didn't take very long before other shows were like, oh, 333 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 1: she's available, and then started casting me in things and 334 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 1: doing indie movies, and yeah, it ended up being a 335 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 1: great few years since I've been on that show. And yeah, 336 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 1: am I I'm doing well? Thanks, are feeling really nice? 337 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 5: You're doing okay? You can pay for dinner. 338 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:54,439 Speaker 1: I can't pay for dinner. 339 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 2: Yes, can I get an appetizer? This is how I 340 00:17:58,359 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 2: can determine you guys, you made it? 341 00:17:59,880 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 1: Like, can we start start way to got appetizer money? 342 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 2: Can we start with an appetizer? I had hasen minhaja 343 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 2: my show. He goes, look, hey, look you want to 344 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 2: go to Chipotle. I'm okay with guacamole, Like I'm feeling 345 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 2: good about where I am in mya. And that's how 346 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:20,640 Speaker 2: you determine, and yes, like, that's how you like, I'm good. 347 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 2: We can get a quawk if you want a side 348 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:24,119 Speaker 2: of this, go ahead, go ahead, it's on me. 349 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 5: It's on me. 350 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 2: So you leave, and you feel this freedom, and you 351 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 2: have financial freedom. You're very rich, So I say, there's 352 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 2: guacamole for everyone. And then you start doing all this 353 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 2: different work and people have recognized you. You ultimately get 354 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:43,359 Speaker 2: ready to have this podcast with your best friend. And 355 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 2: I'm fast forwarding a few years, skipping TV shows and 356 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:49,159 Speaker 2: things of that nature. But what ultimately made you want 357 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 2: to get into the podcast space. 358 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 1: Well, I do it with Nicole Buyer, and she's my 359 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 1: best friend and we've been friends since we both started 360 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 1: at UCB in two thousand and nine, and she's the 361 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:04,880 Speaker 1: only person that I can hang out with all day 362 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 1: and still talk to at night, like she's so easy 363 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 1: to talk to. And there was a moment in time 364 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:14,399 Speaker 1: when we were both living in New York where we 365 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 1: go to the same commercial auditions we go to UCB, 366 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:21,640 Speaker 1: take a class, or have a rehearsal, go eat something, 367 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 1: go see a show, go do a show, and then 368 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 1: like part and then call each other on the phone 369 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 1: when we're like back at home. And that's a rare thing. 370 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 1: And so I think in general, people like our dynamic 371 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:38,919 Speaker 1: were good, like comedic foil for each other, and we 372 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:40,920 Speaker 1: wanted to do something where we could talk to each 373 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:44,640 Speaker 1: other all the time like we always do. And our 374 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:48,159 Speaker 1: podcast is kind of a representation of our friendship and 375 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 1: it's really fun and we talk about our friendship, we 376 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 1: talk about friendship in general. People ask friendship questions that 377 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 1: they like don't know how to deal with, which is 378 00:19:57,840 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 1: fun because I feel like there's so many shows that 379 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 1: deal with like romantic relationships or parenthood or something, but 380 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:08,200 Speaker 1: not a lot talking about like adult friendship and how 381 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 1: valuable that is. And I'm glad people are listening and 382 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 1: relating to it. 383 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:17,399 Speaker 2: I think best friends by definition has really become a 384 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 2: very overused word. And the way you describe your relationship 385 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 2: with Nicole is clear that she is your best friend. 386 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 2: Do you feel here's I need this advice? 387 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 5: Now? 388 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 2: Do you feel that word is I mean bestie, this 389 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:28,639 Speaker 2: bestie that I hear it all the time, even when 390 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 2: people call me their bestie. I'm like, I'm really not sure, 391 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 2: But do you feel like that word is overused? 392 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, it's other people have different definitions of it. 393 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 1: I only have a handful of friends, so when I 394 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 1: say best friend, I mean best friend, and some people 395 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 1: say best friend about like the waiter, which is actually 396 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:50,400 Speaker 1: what Nicole does. Nicole will say, oh, that's my best 397 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:52,359 Speaker 1: friend because I gave her a soda, and I'm like, wait, 398 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 1: the criteria has lowered. Why they're your best friend too? 399 00:20:57,240 --> 00:21:04,479 Speaker 2: What about me? Or I have a best friend who 400 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:06,920 Speaker 2: always is calling someone else her best friend on Instagram 401 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:08,359 Speaker 2: and I feel a way about it of course, you 402 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 2: guys say questions of how territorial best friends are best 403 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:12,440 Speaker 2: friends are territorial? 404 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 1: I am territorial. Yes. She was a bridesmaid in someone's wedding, 405 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 1: and I was like, who is this? Who is this? 406 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 1: I don't know this person is? You're that close all 407 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 1: of a sudden? 408 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:27,159 Speaker 2: When did they come in all of a sudden, all 409 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:29,199 Speaker 2: of a sudden? Never heard of this person? Ye, and 410 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:31,679 Speaker 2: you're in their wedding. Yeah, oh my god. Why do 411 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:34,879 Speaker 2: you think that is? Women have that, and women have 412 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 2: that in space. I don't necessarily know if men have that, 413 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:38,360 Speaker 2: But why do you think that is? 414 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, I think it's nice to 415 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 1: feel like part of a tribe or like part of 416 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:48,119 Speaker 1: like you belong to something or someone. So I don't know, 417 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 1: it's nice to be like, well, we have this secret 418 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:55,160 Speaker 1: special relationship with each other no one else has, which 419 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 1: can still be true even if they have other best friends. 420 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:04,120 Speaker 1: But something about hearing someone else's best friend exists. I don't. 421 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:06,359 Speaker 1: It's like I want to I want to be territorial. 422 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:09,639 Speaker 1: This is mine, she's mine. You don't know her like 423 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 1: I know? Please, and we love it, love it? Yeah, 424 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 1: and well it reminds you remember. Okay did you you 425 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:22,360 Speaker 1: obviously please? So I know you have seen Bridesmaids, right, yes, yeah, 426 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:24,440 Speaker 1: very Okay, do you remember my favorites? 427 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 2: Okay, it's legitimately that way. Yeah, like I that's how 428 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 2: women are in the scene. It's like, well, well, let 429 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 2: me remember that time when we were two. Remember we 430 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 2: can even speak and we were still speaking. You have 431 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:42,919 Speaker 2: to one up one other over and over again. So 432 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:45,119 Speaker 2: I love that you have that podcast, and I'm definitely 433 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:47,360 Speaker 2: going to start listening because it's so it's so near 434 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:49,719 Speaker 2: and dear to my heart. You also have a special 435 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:52,640 Speaker 2: coming up. Congratulations, tell me about it so much. 436 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is my second stand up special and I'm 437 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:58,439 Speaker 1: so so excited. Is the first one that I have produced. 438 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 1: And it's really exciting because I was very proud of 439 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:05,879 Speaker 1: my first special, Pizza Mine. But I did not have 440 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 1: as much control as I would have wanted. And what 441 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 1: does that mean. That means I didn't really know anything 442 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 1: about the budget. So like you know, when we're spending money, 443 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 1: like I was getting like yeses and nos for things 444 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:21,440 Speaker 1: but didn't actually know why. So this time around, it's like, well, 445 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 1: this is my money, so I know exactly where it's going. 446 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:26,200 Speaker 1: I can say how much we're spending and why we're 447 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 1: spending it, and that's that, like I am the one 448 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 1: who's deciding those things. And then as far as distribution, 449 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:38,120 Speaker 1: my special is on a lot of platforms, which is 450 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 1: wonderful for viewership, but also I didn't have a say 451 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:46,680 Speaker 1: as far as where it could go, and I don't 452 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:54,359 Speaker 1: like that. So now so now I do, and I 453 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 1: have full ownership of it. I get to have a 454 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:59,399 Speaker 1: say as to like who where I can sell it, to, 455 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 1: where I can put it, how the audience can receive it. 456 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 1: And I really like that feeling of being able to say, yeah, 457 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 1: this is my work and I know exactly what's happening 458 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 1: with it. 459 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:15,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's beautiful, and what can people expect. I'm curious, Like, 460 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:17,439 Speaker 2: you don't have to necessarily get into the details if 461 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:20,160 Speaker 2: you want. But we had Junia your Share on the show, 462 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:22,160 Speaker 2: and she was saying, and I'm pretty sure I pronounced 463 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 2: her name incorrectly, but she was saying that for a while, 464 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:28,679 Speaker 2: when she came from London here she would shoot her 465 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 2: own specials because that was the only way she could 466 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 2: make money. And she was hitting them out like mixtapes. 467 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:36,119 Speaker 2: She was like, hey, check this out and here's this. 468 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:40,360 Speaker 2: When you are doing it in a very I don't 469 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:44,359 Speaker 2: want to say, uh, get it out the you know, 470 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 2: gut her way. When you're doing it independently and you 471 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 2: don't have an entity, a big entity backing you, what 472 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:56,120 Speaker 2: goes into creating your own special I'm really really curious 473 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 2: because for those who are listening, the creatives who want 474 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 2: to know, can they and if can't, it is possible? 475 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean this is a I feel like I'm 476 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:08,200 Speaker 1: coming from a privileged place because I am a person 477 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 1: who has already been on TV. So it wasn't hard 478 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:14,879 Speaker 1: for me to like find a producer who was willing 479 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:18,400 Speaker 1: to work with someone doing this independently, and like that 480 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:21,679 Speaker 1: person finds the DP and the director and like, you know, 481 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 1: like I still had a producer working with me who 482 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 1: was helping me out. I still to pay them. But 483 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 1: like if I was someone who was newer and coming 484 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 1: up and like doing this really scrappy, I actually don't 485 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:38,160 Speaker 1: know how that would look. I didn't, thankfully have help, 486 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:42,200 Speaker 1: but yeah, I do feel like I had a really 487 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,639 Speaker 1: great team of people who understood what I was saying, 488 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:48,960 Speaker 1: and like I had a friend who helped artistically design 489 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:53,959 Speaker 1: the set and would watch it like, I'm so excited 490 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:56,359 Speaker 1: about I wanted to bring like the outdoors indoors, so 491 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:58,919 Speaker 1: we have like a lot of nature elements to it. 492 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 1: And yeah, it was just like really fun to be like, 493 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 1: I don't know, I think I want this, and then 494 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:07,200 Speaker 1: people be like, all right, let's try to figure out 495 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 1: how to make that, and then we do it and wow. 496 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 1: There was really no pushback ever, and and I really 497 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 1: loved the process of being able to create something from 498 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 1: the ground up. 499 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,640 Speaker 5: That's beautiful. And they you it's called the First Woman. 500 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:20,920 Speaker 1: Yeah? 501 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:22,159 Speaker 5: Correct? Is that correct? 502 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 1: That is correct? 503 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:24,960 Speaker 2: Maybe that's where I got the first That's where I 504 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 2: got the first from. Oh yeah, why that title? 505 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,479 Speaker 5: Hey, maybe that's where it came. Yeah, why that title. 506 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 1: I liked the title of The First Woman because this 507 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:37,719 Speaker 1: special is very woman heavy. I talk about I talk 508 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,200 Speaker 1: about myself throughout the whole thing, but I talk about 509 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 1: my experiences as a woman, like learning my sexuality, my body, 510 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:52,920 Speaker 1: some health stuff, women in general going through their own 511 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 1: health stuff, and like there's some history stuff in there. 512 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,200 Speaker 1: And I feel like, once you watch it, you'll have 513 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 1: a better idea of why it's specifically the First Woman, 514 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 1: but I really just like the idea of like putting 515 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 1: it out there, like the First Woman. This is unabashedly 516 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:17,960 Speaker 1: a special for women and for everybody, but like it's 517 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 1: gonna be women heavy and you're gonna learn some stuff 518 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 1: and yeah, which is great. Yeah. 519 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:27,639 Speaker 5: So so how would you describe your comedy? 520 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 1: My comedy is very personal. It's like I like starting 521 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 1: from a personal place, like maybe a story of something 522 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 1: that happened to me or something that confuses me or 523 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 1: angers me, and then I kind of just go from 524 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:47,399 Speaker 1: there and hope people can relate to it. But I'm not, like, 525 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:51,399 Speaker 1: I've never been an observational comic. I can't like really 526 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:55,959 Speaker 1: like observe society and like comment on it or or 527 00:27:56,000 --> 00:28:01,120 Speaker 1: be political. I really am just like very inward and selfish. 528 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,719 Speaker 1: I guess I don't know. I like just talking about myself. 529 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 1: But so far it's worked. 530 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 5: It's about me. 531 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:08,439 Speaker 1: It's about me. 532 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 2: Yeah that's okay, be unapologetic about that. But it has 533 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 2: worked and people are interested. And why do you think 534 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:20,199 Speaker 2: people are interested? Obviously you're funny, but why is the 535 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:23,639 Speaker 2: combination of talking about me as opposed to other observational 536 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:25,640 Speaker 2: comedy working for you. 537 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 1: I think people can relate to human stories. I think 538 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:35,960 Speaker 1: people want to feel connection and want to feel like 539 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 1: they are being seen, and that can happen in multiple ways. 540 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 1: I did a show in DC a couple of years 541 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 1: ago where I was just talking about myself as usual, 542 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 1: and afterwards, some guy came up to me, pretty tipsy, 543 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 1: and he was like, I just want to you know, 544 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 1: I voted for Trump. And I was like, this is 545 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 1: a terrible way to start a conversation, and he was like, 546 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 1: and he was like, but I totally like understood what 547 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 1: you were saying, and I loved what you were saying. 548 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 1: I never felt alienated as an audience member. I didn't 549 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 1: feel unwelcome and like we are two very different types 550 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:17,479 Speaker 1: of people. But I still like got a lot and 551 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 1: laughed a lot at this show, which I love. And 552 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 1: it's not like I try to do that with my comedy. 553 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 1: I'm I'm not trying to be like we and we're 554 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 1: all just one right, Like that's not even my style. 555 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 1: But I'm glad that he was able to hear what 556 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 1: I was saying and relate because he was just like, 557 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 1: these are just funny stories and this is just a 558 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 1: funny person. And I even if I haven't exactly experienced 559 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 1: what she's saying, I still get it. And that's really 560 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:45,320 Speaker 1: all I want. 561 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 3: I want every champion and car every champion has to 562 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:51,120 Speaker 3: be a champion, a champion, and Cary champion, and carried 563 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 3: Chat Beata champion and Cary champion and Carrie Chat's great. 564 00:29:54,800 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 4: It's sports and entertainment can make it. We're going very champion. 565 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 3: They care me champion is to be a champion. A champion, 566 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 3: they care a champion. They got a champion, They care 567 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 3: me champion, They care with cha't be. 568 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 4: If they important? 569 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:15,680 Speaker 5: Is your comedy therapy for you? 570 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:21,800 Speaker 1: Therapy is therapy for me, But my comedy, I guess 571 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,120 Speaker 1: it does feel a little therapeutic. Sometimes I am able 572 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:30,680 Speaker 1: to get some stories out that feel like heavy or 573 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 1: something that like I haven't been able to get out 574 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:39,440 Speaker 1: for years. But yeah, it does feel like cathartics sometimes 575 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 1: to get some of this energy on stage, and also 576 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 1: just to have a connection, because I it's like a 577 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 1: symbiotic relationship, like the audience is getting something out of it, 578 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 1: but I'm also getting something out of their reaction. Like 579 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 1: I I like feeling like people can connect to me 580 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 1: on a level of just me being raw and honest, like, 581 00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 1: it's a really good feeling. It's a beautiful feeling. 582 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:03,800 Speaker 2: It's a beautiful feeling to know that someone is engaged 583 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:08,480 Speaker 2: and maybe not even understanding, but perhaps trying to understand 584 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 2: and feel as if there is something there that is special. 585 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:15,560 Speaker 2: And so, how can everyone watch said comedy special. 586 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 1: It's gonna be on the eight hundred pound Gorilla website, 587 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 1: which I think is just eight hundred pound goerilla dot 588 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 1: com August fifteenth, and it's going to be a pay 589 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 1: what you can model for two weeks, so if you 590 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 1: want to contribute to the creation of the special, you 591 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 1: can pay literally whatever you want, two dollars, five dollars, whatever, 592 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:38,720 Speaker 1: and then August twenty ninth, it'll be completely free on YouTube. 593 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:43,680 Speaker 5: Oh wow, that's great. On your page. It'll be on 594 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 5: the on your YouTube. 595 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 1: Page, no, because my YouTube page doesn't really exist, but 596 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 1: it'll be on the eight hundred pound Gorilla YouTube page. 597 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 1: But you can just sipe in since here's the made 598 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 1: of the first Woman, and it'll pop up. 599 00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, good, okay, that's all you have to do. Guys. 600 00:31:58,240 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 2: We just said make sure you do it that way. 601 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 2: I am definitely gonna watch. But I love this idea. Okay, 602 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,239 Speaker 2: so maybe I'm just not familiar with it and I'm 603 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:07,160 Speaker 2: too old school. So you can pay whatever you want. 604 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:08,920 Speaker 2: I can literally log in and be like, gro here's 605 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 2: two thousand dollars, and then they'll give it to me unlimited. 606 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:13,960 Speaker 1: If you yeah, yeah you want to pay that much, 607 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,240 Speaker 1: you can, but don't. 608 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 5: But I didn't want to say yeah, but I didn't 609 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,240 Speaker 5: want to say. I don't want to say, like two dollars. 610 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 2: I'm encouraging people to give us some the money, and 611 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 2: we like the stuff that jingles, but we want the 612 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:33,720 Speaker 2: stuff that we needers yeah right, I mean more appetizers 613 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 2: for us. I'm curious, and I know that we didn't 614 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 2: get into many of your TV shows and the things 615 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 2: that you've worked on in your films. 616 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,160 Speaker 5: Talk to me about how the writers strike the actors 617 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:45,840 Speaker 5: and the writers strike, because. 618 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:52,360 Speaker 2: You do both. How how in fact is this affecting 619 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:54,400 Speaker 2: the work that you do, meaning you're not working. 620 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:58,640 Speaker 1: I guess yeah, yeah, yes, no work has happening, No 621 00:32:58,760 --> 00:32:59,600 Speaker 1: work is happening. 622 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:03,640 Speaker 2: That's it, and that is nothing else. I'm really I'm confused, 623 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,320 Speaker 2: right because this is the first time ever it's ever happened. 624 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,400 Speaker 2: From my understanding, the writers and the actors have been 625 00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:09,360 Speaker 2: on strike at the same time. 626 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:09,960 Speaker 5: Is that correct? 627 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:12,360 Speaker 1: I feel like I think I heard someone say in 628 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:16,240 Speaker 1: the sixties the actors and writers have striking. But that's 629 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,160 Speaker 1: but that's a long time ago. That was like that's 630 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:22,120 Speaker 1: decades ago. Yeah, yeah, so what is that? 631 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:23,840 Speaker 5: What is that issue here? 632 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:28,800 Speaker 1: So there's a lot of issues with the residuals and 633 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 1: how they are calculated. Like TV is consistently changing. There 634 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:37,400 Speaker 1: was a time where we only had three channels on TV. 635 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:40,800 Speaker 1: Then we had cable, then we had satellite, and we 636 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:45,000 Speaker 1: had streaming, and I feel like the streaming boom was 637 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:50,760 Speaker 1: so fast there wasn't language to help with the transition 638 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 1: as far as like how to make contracts for this 639 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 1: kind of TV because people weren't considering it TV for 640 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:01,480 Speaker 1: so long. They're like, this kind of the internet? So 641 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:01,959 Speaker 1: is it? 642 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:03,640 Speaker 2: Is it? 643 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:04,080 Speaker 1: TV? 644 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:04,520 Speaker 5: Is there? 645 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:10,520 Speaker 1: What is it? So then studios started cutting corners and 646 00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:13,759 Speaker 1: they're like, oh, we can just hire people and just 647 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:17,319 Speaker 1: not try to figure out how to give them the 648 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:20,120 Speaker 1: same kind of residuals that they would get on TV. 649 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:24,080 Speaker 1: And so residuals are like you write for a show, 650 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:27,480 Speaker 1: or you shoot a show, you get paid for that job, 651 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:32,040 Speaker 1: and then every time that show airs, or that episode 652 00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:35,600 Speaker 1: airs or that movie airs, then you get paid again 653 00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 1: a lesser amount, but like you get paid again for 654 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,160 Speaker 1: the work that you did. And so some people could 655 00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:46,600 Speaker 1: sustain their lifestyle by like you booked a multi cam 656 00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:50,719 Speaker 1: sitcom on CBS and they had five seasons, you might 657 00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:52,839 Speaker 1: not need to work that much after because you can 658 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:54,960 Speaker 1: pay your rent because you're still getting residuals because they 659 00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:59,000 Speaker 1: keep airing the episodes. Now on streaming, there's no reruns, 660 00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 1: there's no like it's now still playing over and over 661 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:05,640 Speaker 1: and over again, So the way they calculate residuals is 662 00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:09,480 Speaker 1: much much different. And people are getting paid way less 663 00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:13,560 Speaker 1: than they were getting paid when their shows were on TV, 664 00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:18,920 Speaker 1: and that's for actors and writers. So trying to figure 665 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:25,840 Speaker 1: out a new way to appropriately pay creators for that. 666 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:30,120 Speaker 1: And then there's also a new threat of like technology 667 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:33,959 Speaker 1: and like there's now AI systems that can write full 668 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:39,120 Speaker 1: scripts and also take our voice or our likeness and 669 00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:43,799 Speaker 1: use them in other projects. So there needs to be 670 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:51,919 Speaker 1: some regulation on that before that becomes exploitative. We don't want, 671 00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:54,160 Speaker 1: like I don't want to sign off on something where 672 00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:57,080 Speaker 1: you scan my likeness and my voice and you're able 673 00:35:57,120 --> 00:36:01,359 Speaker 1: to use it in perpetuity on any Yeah, because then 674 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:04,600 Speaker 1: I'm not getting paid for that. So yeah, there's just 675 00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:07,720 Speaker 1: a lot of things that need to be rewritten, figure 676 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:11,600 Speaker 1: it out. Brought up because it was never an issue before, 677 00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:17,120 Speaker 1: and there are studios who don't even want to bother 678 00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:21,720 Speaker 1: talking about it because it's easier to just like hire 679 00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:26,120 Speaker 1: people who who who are fine signing off on something 680 00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:30,240 Speaker 1: and getting paid very little. So yeah, we're on strike. 681 00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:33,600 Speaker 1: We're hoping to get some sort of middle ground, not 682 00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:35,440 Speaker 1: even middle ground. We're hoping to get what we were, 683 00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:41,719 Speaker 1: what we deserve, and we will see what happens. 684 00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:45,040 Speaker 2: Many more posted this is how I get all my 685 00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:48,440 Speaker 2: information Instagram. Kidding, but she did post a picture of 686 00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:51,600 Speaker 2: one of her streaming residual checks and it was sense 687 00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,960 Speaker 2: It was since like it was literally since less, and 688 00:36:55,000 --> 00:37:01,640 Speaker 2: I was like, that's pretty disgusting. And you say there 689 00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:03,920 Speaker 2: are no reruns on streaming, I'm like, yeah, it is, 690 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:05,799 Speaker 2: like watch it all the time. That's a rerun to me. 691 00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:07,839 Speaker 2: If I could go on and look up every day 692 00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:10,759 Speaker 2: and see whomever I need to see, that to me 693 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:14,440 Speaker 2: is a rerun, and so I'm curious when you hear 694 00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:20,200 Speaker 2: about deals being done on HBO sold Insecure to Netflix. 695 00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:25,560 Speaker 2: Are the principal players and writers on that show getting 696 00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:28,480 Speaker 2: paid to be on Netflix all five seasons of the. 697 00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,239 Speaker 1: Show, because that was the first season. I don't know 698 00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:34,200 Speaker 1: what they're I don't think so. I don't think they're 699 00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:37,600 Speaker 1: part of that. Wow yeah wow. 700 00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:39,160 Speaker 5: Well that's just greedy. 701 00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:43,759 Speaker 2: And then where are we when it's so it's disgusting 702 00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:45,440 Speaker 2: because it's like, why are you being so greedy? 703 00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:46,160 Speaker 5: You have the money? 704 00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:50,359 Speaker 2: I wonder, Yeah, you're like, they have plenty of it. 705 00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:52,960 Speaker 2: Do you see an end in sight? Because if they 706 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,960 Speaker 2: are stuck on where they are stuck, there will be 707 00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:58,960 Speaker 2: more reality shows, you know. I think we'll see reality 708 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:02,640 Speaker 2: shows up the wazoo. We don't have to necessarily pay 709 00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:05,120 Speaker 2: those people the same way. And it's reality TV. It's 710 00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:08,720 Speaker 2: not script it's not scripted. So where do you see 711 00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:09,720 Speaker 2: this ending up? 712 00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:11,160 Speaker 5: Is this a long. 713 00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:14,359 Speaker 2: Strike in your opinion? Or will there be a Will 714 00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:15,840 Speaker 2: you guys be able to come to terms? 715 00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:19,880 Speaker 1: I think the networks will start feeling the pressure because 716 00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:24,399 Speaker 1: everything stopped, so eventually audiences aren't going to get their 717 00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:29,280 Speaker 1: favorite shows again. And when audiences get mad, the studios 718 00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:32,920 Speaker 1: have to listen. So I think eventually they're going to 719 00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:36,240 Speaker 1: run out of time and be like, oh, okay, oops, 720 00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,919 Speaker 1: we didn't realize how valuable the artists were because they're 721 00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:43,160 Speaker 1: the ones creating your product. And I think eventually they 722 00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:44,680 Speaker 1: do have to listen, like fine, we will make some 723 00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:48,960 Speaker 1: allowances or like we'll figure something out because people can 724 00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,600 Speaker 1: watch reality TV. But eventually people want to see the 725 00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:54,200 Speaker 1: art again. I do think. I do believe in the 726 00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:58,920 Speaker 1: in the crowd and the audience loving the art that 727 00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,600 Speaker 1: they've seen and want to more and wanting new things. 728 00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:05,000 Speaker 1: And so I don't think we'll be in a situation 729 00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:08,040 Speaker 1: where people are like, oh, I guess we're just done 730 00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:13,360 Speaker 1: with scripted stuff and we're just watching reality stuff. People 731 00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:15,719 Speaker 1: love seeing human stories. 732 00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:18,960 Speaker 5: I hope that it all works out. I really do. 733 00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:22,000 Speaker 2: I'm a member of SAD, but not really a member 734 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,000 Speaker 2: of SAD, so I too said that. I mean, I'm 735 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:27,360 Speaker 2: not an actress, but it doesn't necessarily affect our world, 736 00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:29,759 Speaker 2: but it does affect our world based on things that 737 00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:30,319 Speaker 2: I want to see. 738 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,359 Speaker 5: I got shows, I want to come back. I want 739 00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:33,240 Speaker 5: to see my shows. 740 00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:34,719 Speaker 2: I want to be able to live the life that 741 00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:36,720 Speaker 2: I want to live and be comfortable with streaming. 742 00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:39,000 Speaker 5: I think it's gross, I really do. I think it's disgusting. 743 00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:41,480 Speaker 2: So I'm sitting all the actors and writers so much 744 00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:43,920 Speaker 2: love and hopefully there aren't too many people who are 745 00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:48,080 Speaker 2: forced to lose their livelihood based on people just simply being. 746 00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:50,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, there's actually there is an entertainment fund that 747 00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,680 Speaker 1: people can donate too if they want to help support 748 00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:57,000 Speaker 1: people who are striking, because you know, it's not just 749 00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:59,880 Speaker 1: like the movie stars that you see who like have 750 00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,920 Speaker 1: millions of dollars. It's like working actors who are going 751 00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:05,120 Speaker 1: like month to month, or like crew members who aren't 752 00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:08,640 Speaker 1: working now because their things are shut down. So you 753 00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:10,560 Speaker 1: can go to the SAG website or the w g 754 00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:14,080 Speaker 1: w g A website and there's a link to a 755 00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:16,719 Speaker 1: fund that will help support people who need who are 756 00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:18,960 Speaker 1: in desperate need to paying their rent while they're striking. 757 00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:22,719 Speaker 1: If people want to contribute to and in the send 758 00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:23,560 Speaker 1: to those people. 759 00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:26,520 Speaker 5: And they give them the money the money, Oh that's great, 760 00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:27,399 Speaker 5: Oh that's great. 761 00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:29,520 Speaker 2: Okay, good to know. And you said it's w g A, 762 00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:31,880 Speaker 2: it's the website and it's it Entertainment Fund. 763 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,560 Speaker 1: I can't remember the exact name, but yes, I love that. Yeah, 764 00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:37,160 Speaker 1: some entertainment fund. 765 00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:41,520 Speaker 2: So she don't see me, don't send me to a scam, 766 00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:47,360 Speaker 2: don't see me to a fundy, and nobody I want to. 767 00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:49,719 Speaker 2: I want to help somebody pay a rent, a water 768 00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:50,239 Speaker 2: bill or two. 769 00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:59,480 Speaker 1: I do a my website and donate. 770 00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:06,680 Speaker 2: Whatever and I'll make sure they get it all. I 771 00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:09,759 Speaker 2: thank you so much for coming on the podcast. I 772 00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:12,880 Speaker 2: do want to say that again the first Woman. We 773 00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:16,080 Speaker 2: can go to the eight hundred Pound Gorilla website and 774 00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:18,840 Speaker 2: watch first two weeks August fifteenth. It is a donate 775 00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:21,840 Speaker 2: as you wish, and then after that it'll be on 776 00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:23,960 Speaker 2: the YouTube page and everyone can watch it. I want 777 00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:27,000 Speaker 2: everyone to support you, and I look forward to having 778 00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:28,560 Speaker 2: you back on. We can talk about all your TV 779 00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:29,479 Speaker 2: projects when the strike. 780 00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:30,840 Speaker 1: Yes, please, I would love that. 781 00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:33,160 Speaker 5: Yes, I would love it too. 782 00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:35,400 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for jo Thank you, thank you 783 00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:36,960 Speaker 1: for having me. 784 00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:38,920 Speaker 2: All right, guys, so we have to really support to 785 00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:42,600 Speaker 2: share that. That's a huge, huge undertaking. She produced her 786 00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:46,000 Speaker 2: very own comedy special. These are her dollars, these are 787 00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:48,360 Speaker 2: her visions, these are her friends helping her put it 788 00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:50,440 Speaker 2: all together. So again, we can go to eight hundred 789 00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:53,759 Speaker 2: pound Gorilla media dot com and donate anything you like 790 00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:56,400 Speaker 2: for the first two weeks beginning August fifteenth, and then 791 00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:58,920 Speaker 2: after that you can check it out on the YouTube page. 792 00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:01,520 Speaker 5: Really something special. 793 00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:05,760 Speaker 2: I love when I see us, our folks, black people 794 00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:08,880 Speaker 2: working in a space that traditionally is in ours because 795 00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:11,200 Speaker 2: once we get inside of that space, we take over 796 00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:13,480 Speaker 2: and we make it our own. And that's exactly what 797 00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:16,239 Speaker 2: she's been able to do. So again, go out and 798 00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:19,120 Speaker 2: support her to drop some gems and gave us some tips. 799 00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:21,680 Speaker 2: We thank you Sashi for being on the podcast today 800 00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:26,239 Speaker 2: and of course we'll see you guys next week.