WEBVTT - This is Dramatic: MENOPAUSE

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<v Speaker 1>This is the most dramatic podcast ever and iHeartRadio podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Harrison here coming to you from the home office

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<v Speaker 1>in Austin, Texas. I am unbelievably excited about the show today,

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<v Speaker 1>And when I tell you what the subject matter is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be, You're maybe going to be scratching your head.

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<v Speaker 1>But the entire show today is dedicated to menopause, something

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<v Speaker 1>that every woman who walks this earth is going to

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<v Speaker 1>go through. But it's something that as I have kind

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<v Speaker 1>of dove into this, have realized that a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people don't know a lot about it. They don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what to look for when it's coming, what it means, why,

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<v Speaker 1>And it is kind of astounding to me and shocking

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<v Speaker 1>and terrible that we all don't know more men and women.

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<v Speaker 1>But I know you might be thinking, Chris, you're a

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<v Speaker 1>middle aged man, you're going to be talking about menopause. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I am, because I know my audience and I know

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<v Speaker 1>this is an important topic. And there are a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people that go on social media and they talk

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<v Speaker 1>like they're nutrition experts, they talk as if they know

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<v Speaker 1>and these people kind of get passed off as experts. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I made sure that we had the foremost expert. This

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<v Speaker 1>woman is active on social media, but she is BORED

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<v Speaker 1>certified obgyn has practiced for many years. She is also

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<v Speaker 1>a mom, also a wife. She is a published author.

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<v Speaker 1>She has an incredible book called The Galveston Diet. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>talking about doctor Mary Claire Haver, and she was nice

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<v Speaker 1>enough to join us so we could dive in and

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<v Speaker 1>allow me to ask everything about menopause, joining me now

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<v Speaker 1>from her home in South Texas, just down the road

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<v Speaker 1>from where I am here in Austin. Doctor Mary Claire

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<v Speaker 1>have thank you so much for joining me.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks for having me now.

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<v Speaker 1>I know you do a lot of this now between

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<v Speaker 1>social media, TV, you name it. You probably don't sit

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<v Speaker 1>down with a lot of middle aged men to discuss menopause.

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<v Speaker 2>Not very often occasionally, but it's one of the most

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<v Speaker 2>enlightening conversations for me because I really get to see

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<v Speaker 2>it from your perspective and it really helps me guide

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<v Speaker 2>you know, fifty percent of the population, because you are

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<v Speaker 2>affected just as much as we are. Because everything's changing

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<v Speaker 2>in our bodies, in our minds and how we're you know,

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<v Speaker 2>interacting with the world through this menopause process, and that's

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<v Speaker 2>affecting your relationships as well.

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<v Speaker 1>And while I know just enough to be dangerous, I

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<v Speaker 1>will admit that I have cheated because I am engaged

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<v Speaker 1>to a beautiful woman, Lauren Zema, I am raising a

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful woman, Taylor, my daughter. They gave me some very

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<v Speaker 1>important questions that they wanted to ask. And my team

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<v Speaker 1>here at iHeart on the most dramatic podcast ever, is

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<v Speaker 1>probably ninety five percent women, so they had questions. It

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<v Speaker 1>was amazing when we started talking about menopause doctor, how

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<v Speaker 1>many women were lining up that had questions. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>something they're all going to go through. It's something you

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<v Speaker 1>think that we would all, but especially women, would be

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<v Speaker 1>so knowledgeable about, and we're not. Why is that?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, there's several reasons, everything from society, to medical

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<v Speaker 2>education and training to you know, asism, and so if

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<v Speaker 2>you look at in medicine, which is you know what

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<v Speaker 2>I'm an expert in, I can tell you from my

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<v Speaker 2>own obgi N residency training, which was amazing, I've learned

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<v Speaker 2>so many important things. But there was a just a

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<v Speaker 2>sliver of time spent on menopause and I thought nothing

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<v Speaker 2>of it at the time, to be honest, And there's

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<v Speaker 2>also that little bit well a lot of of it's

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<v Speaker 2>kind of in her head. You know, like when a

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<v Speaker 2>woman and a man with the exact same symptoms walk

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<v Speaker 2>into the er, say with chest pain, shortens of breath,

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<v Speaker 2>some classic symptoms of a heart attack, she's much more

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<v Speaker 2>likely to have a delayed diagnosis and to be thought,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, have a mental health diagnosis rather than a

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<v Speaker 2>heart attack. And that is just kind of how we're trained,

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<v Speaker 2>and so that that's a problem. Number Two. We have

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<v Speaker 2>the kind of classically medically recognized symptoms of menopause, hoplaches

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<v Speaker 2>and night sweats, you know, changes in the female anatomy,

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<v Speaker 2>et cetera. But what we're learning now is that there

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<v Speaker 2>are probably forty plus symptoms that can raise their head

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<v Speaker 2>in menopause and they're not recognized as being classically menopausal

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<v Speaker 2>from a society standpoint. You know, look at the Golden Girls.

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<v Speaker 2>They are my age, you know, I love that show.

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<v Speaker 2>They were amaze. I mean, Blanche was still teaching right,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's like they were old ladies in my head,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the haircut, the outfits and the way they

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<v Speaker 2>approached life and health. I mean, they were wonderful. But

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<v Speaker 2>just this kind of dismissal of this is the end

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<v Speaker 2>of your life when we're going to spend a third

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<v Speaker 2>of our lives a third, we're going to live thirty

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<v Speaker 2>to forty years in this menopausal state, and there's so

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<v Speaker 2>much we can do to improve our lifespan and our

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<v Speaker 2>health span throughout it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, what I found interesting is you mentioned going through

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<v Speaker 1>med school, and you are a board certified obgyn. You

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<v Speaker 1>have practiced for many many years, worked with women, delivered babies,

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<v Speaker 1>you name it. But from what I understand of your story,

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't until you went through menopause that you realize

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<v Speaker 1>that the advice that you had been giving all those

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<v Speaker 1>many years probably not the best. Is that fair?

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<v Speaker 2>That is very fair. If someone came in with severe

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<v Speaker 2>hot flashes, I knew what to do, okay, format, therapy, conversation,

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<v Speaker 2>et cetera. But most of the patients, the number one

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<v Speaker 2>complaint that they had in my office, and when I

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<v Speaker 2>talked to other menopause specialists and looked at, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>thousands of years of patient data, the number one complaint

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<v Speaker 2>really is weight gain and body composition changes like new

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<v Speaker 2>weight gain in places you never had it before, and

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<v Speaker 2>you really haven't changed your diet and exercise. So the

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<v Speaker 2>advice that I'd been taught to give, that I gave

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<v Speaker 2>for years was work out more weight less. We slowed

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<v Speaker 2>down a little as we get older. I mean I

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<v Speaker 2>cringe when I think of the things that came out

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<v Speaker 2>of my mouth, and then it happened to me so embarrassingly. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>my entry into this menopause world, into doing more research

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<v Speaker 2>and trying to understand what's going on and why do

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<v Speaker 2>I have such a gap in my education was around

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<v Speaker 2>pretty cosmetic reasons of just some unwanted weight gain that

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<v Speaker 2>was making me unhappy. But what I didn't realize, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean it was just the tip of the iceberg. And

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<v Speaker 2>when I when I you know, cracked over in the

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<v Speaker 2>top and started, you know, ice diving, I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>wait a minute, there's so many things here, cardiovascular disease risk,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, neurodegenerator these like Alzheimer's and dementia, and hip pain,

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<v Speaker 2>bone pain, joint pain, every organ system and our bodies

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<v Speaker 2>affected by this.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it makes sense. It makes sense that we are,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, one kind of living organism and everything is

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<v Speaker 1>tied together in our bodies. Of course it's going to

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<v Speaker 1>all be affected. I mean, it would be crazy not

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<v Speaker 1>to and it's going to affect people in different ways.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I'm right. I'm glad that not only you

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<v Speaker 1>had this awakening, but now that there is And don't

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<v Speaker 1>get me started on social media. There's plenty of bad

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<v Speaker 1>things out there, but people like yourself that are knowledgeable,

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<v Speaker 1>that can now speak out and just normalize this conversation

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<v Speaker 1>that we're having.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like the biggest contribution I've made to this

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<v Speaker 2>menopause conversation is trying to normalize it and just validating people.

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<v Speaker 2>My DMS just blow up with and I can't give

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<v Speaker 2>personal medical advice, you know, it's against the law. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean to practice medicine in another state, and so but

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just trying to calm people down, like, yes, this

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<v Speaker 2>absolutely could be could be related to your menopause. Here's

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<v Speaker 2>the questions you can ask your health care, here's the

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<v Speaker 2>you know, medications you might want to think about. Here's

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<v Speaker 2>some supplements that might help, you know. Just trying to

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<v Speaker 2>get everybody on an equal playing field so that they

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<v Speaker 2>can make an informed choice.

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<v Speaker 1>I was looking at I was trying to find because

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<v Speaker 1>I wrote it down, I can't remember where it was.

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<v Speaker 1>The quote you just posted on your social media about

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<v Speaker 1>the validation of what you're going through, if you're going

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<v Speaker 1>through menopause, having those symptoms validated, And I love the

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<v Speaker 1>quote that you put up.

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<v Speaker 2>Like every woman deserves to have validation of what she's

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<v Speaker 2>going through is real. And then in a decision whether

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<v Speaker 2>she chooses or not to pursue certain pharmaceutical options, that's

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<v Speaker 2>that's up to her. But you know, so much of

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<v Speaker 2>that's being taken off the table for so many women

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<v Speaker 2>for at least the last twenty years.

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<v Speaker 1>So what I'm going to do today is think of

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<v Speaker 1>me as the arbitrary voice for all the amazing women

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<v Speaker 1>in my life. And so they lined up, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>pages of questions. So I'm going to jump in with

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<v Speaker 1>the most important women in my life, vers all my

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful fiance Lauren Zema. She asked, what is para menopause?

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<v Speaker 2>That's a wonderful question. So most, you know, most people

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<v Speaker 2>women men will understand that menopause represents kind of the

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<v Speaker 2>end of your fertility. You're not gonna have periods anymore,

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<v Speaker 2>and you're something about hormones might stop functioning like they

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<v Speaker 2>used to. So when in actuality what happens. There are

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<v Speaker 2>three kind of phases of this menopause journey. We have perimenopause,

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<v Speaker 2>we have menopause, and then we have post menopause, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'll well, let me define those for your followers. So

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<v Speaker 2>menopause is really just one day in your life. It's

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<v Speaker 2>kind of that you go up and then you go down.

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<v Speaker 2>And so menopause represents the last day that your ovaries

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<v Speaker 2>will ever function. There's no more estrogen to be produced.

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<v Speaker 2>There you've run through all of the eggs that you

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<v Speaker 2>were born with and there's you know, nothing. Everything after

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<v Speaker 2>that point is postmenopause, got it. Menopause represents a seven

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<v Speaker 2>to ten year time period when that function doesn't just

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<v Speaker 2>shut down overnight. It is kind of a degradation. So

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<v Speaker 2>we're born with all of our eggs, right you guys,

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<v Speaker 2>aren't you know? If you're born with the opposite gonads,

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<v Speaker 2>you make your stuff fresh every day. Good for you?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, ask Robert de Niro, who's still making babies at

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<v Speaker 1>a one hundred and four.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And we are born with all of our our

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<v Speaker 2>gonads are set. We're done, locked and loaded, ready to go,

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<v Speaker 2>and we start losing eggs at about five months in utero,

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<v Speaker 2>so we start, you know, So we're born with a

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<v Speaker 2>certain amount. By the time we're thirty, we're down to

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<v Speaker 2>about ten percent of what we were born with, and

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<v Speaker 2>then when we're forty, we're down to about three percent.

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<v Speaker 2>And those germ cells represent the ovarian production of estrogen, progesterone,

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<v Speaker 2>and some testosterone as well. And so perimenopause is when

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<v Speaker 2>you become symptomatic from this choo choo train that's getting

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<v Speaker 2>harder and harder to chug to get those last few

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<v Speaker 2>eggs you know, on market, so to speak. And the

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<v Speaker 2>quality of those eggs is decreasing as well, which is

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<v Speaker 2>why we see more down syndrome and other chromosome latinormalities

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<v Speaker 2>as a one gets older and has children. So perimenopause,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, if the average age of menopause in the

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<v Speaker 2>US is somewhere around fifty one, okay, but it's still

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<v Speaker 2>very normal between forty five to fifty five fifty six

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<v Speaker 2>two for that to be normal, And then you do

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<v Speaker 2>the math backing that seven to ten years back. So

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<v Speaker 2>somewhere between thirty five and forty five, a woman will

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<v Speaker 2>probably start noticing. She may not put her finger on

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<v Speaker 2>it or recognize it as perrymenopause, but something is changing

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<v Speaker 2>in her body without any rule, increase in stress, no nutrition, diet,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like everything's going, She's living her best life.

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<v Speaker 2>And then you know, outside of just aging, which does

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<v Speaker 2>its own magic to us, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>That it does. So this Laura and I very much

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<v Speaker 1>believe in kind of preventive medicine. Have taken care of yourself,

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<v Speaker 1>your diet, gut health, et cetera. And I had this

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<v Speaker 1>question a couple of times from not only Lauren, but

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<v Speaker 1>my young producer Kendall, who's on the line with us

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<v Speaker 1>right now, and they both kind of ask the same

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<v Speaker 1>question of what do I need to be doing for

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<v Speaker 1>my hormones while I am in my mid twenties, while

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<v Speaker 1>I am in my young thirties. Are there things I

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<v Speaker 1>can do that will help alleviate or just help me

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<v Speaker 1>get through menopause later?

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, so, how you show up in perimenopause, your baseline

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<v Speaker 2>health status, those habits that you are locking in the place,

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<v Speaker 2>is going to determine for most women, how much, how

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<v Speaker 2>many symptoms you have, how serious your menopause is, how

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<v Speaker 2>life disruptive it is, as well as attenuate some of

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<v Speaker 2>those cardiovascular risks that seem to accelerate and neurodegenitive risks

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<v Speaker 2>as we get older. So for my children, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>my girls are nineteen and twenty two. They live and

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<v Speaker 2>breed this stuff unfortunately because they're you know, my kids,

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<v Speaker 2>but they understand that they need to lock these health

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<v Speaker 2>habits and now so that it's much easier, they'll have

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<v Speaker 2>an easier menopause. We can't. We haven't figured out yet

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<v Speaker 2>how to prolong the shelf life of the ovaries, like

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<v Speaker 2>if when that happens, and there's some research being done

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<v Speaker 2>for that to delay menopause.

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<v Speaker 1>Interesting, that's probably.

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<v Speaker 2>The thing that will improve quality of life, lifespan and

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<v Speaker 2>health span and a female more than anything else, is

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<v Speaker 2>if we can delay menopause.

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<v Speaker 1>You're already outlasting us anyway. How much longer do you

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<v Speaker 1>want to be exactly?

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<v Speaker 2>You know for evolutionists or life maybe this happened so

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<v Speaker 2>that we didn't outlive men for so long. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>we already outlived five to seven years, but take away menopause,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll live forever.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't doubt that. Okay, So the last question

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<v Speaker 1>from l Z and again remember where this is coming from.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to read it in her voice. Doctor, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>afraid is my vagina going to dry up? Will I

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<v Speaker 1>be vadryina?

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<v Speaker 2>That's awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>That is a medical term that LZ invented by vagarina.

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<v Speaker 2>More than likely, yes, so, but it's absolutely preventative. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it's preventable, preventable. So we we have our vagina, our vulva,

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<v Speaker 2>our all of our you know, bladder, all that tissue

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<v Speaker 2>you know, basically from the pubic bone to the to

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<v Speaker 2>the spinal cord is all super estrogenized. And when our

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<v Speaker 2>estrogen levels began declining in perimenopause, some more than others,

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<v Speaker 2>we will see a decrease in the amount of mucus

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<v Speaker 2>we produce, the amount of mucus we produce with relations,

0:14:32.080 --> 0:14:35.200
<v Speaker 2>as well as loss of elasticity. The tissue gets really

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<v Speaker 2>thin and really irritated, and for a lot of women,

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<v Speaker 2>probably forty to fifty percent, you will have severe atrophy

0:14:42.200 --> 0:14:46.359
<v Speaker 2>with you know, dramatic pain and being uncomfortable with relations

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<v Speaker 2>to the point where libido goes out the window because

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<v Speaker 2>it hurts and you don't want to do it. Fortunately,

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<v Speaker 2>there are safe, efficacious, and reasonably priced medication that can

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<v Speaker 2>absolutely prevent that, and that is vaginal estrogen. And so

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<v Speaker 2>we just put we'll give you back the water you

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<v Speaker 2>were drinking, and we put it in the vagina where

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<v Speaker 2>you need it. And there's no that's the one. There's

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<v Speaker 2>no increased versus of blood clots breast cancer at People

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<v Speaker 2>with a blood clot with breast cancer can absolutely safely

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<v Speaker 2>use this formulation of estrogen to keep that area healthy.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the number one most effective treatment for recurrent bladder

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<v Speaker 2>infections in menopause, not antibiotics, vaginal estrogen.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably because of Hollywood and you know, just the old

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<v Speaker 1>you know scene we've seen, whether it was Golden Girls

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<v Speaker 1>or every movie with middle aged women. You think hot

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<v Speaker 1>flashes and menopause. So I want to dive into this

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit because my daughter, actually Taylor, who's nineteen,

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<v Speaker 1>had a very interesting question. She's heard about hot flashes,

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<v Speaker 1>but how much does your body temperature actually rise?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that's such a good question, Thank you, Taylor. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so it's about one to three degrees okay, like fever.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, think about it. We're ninety eight point

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<v Speaker 2>six is the average, you know, tent right, and then

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<v Speaker 2>if we get up to one hundred, one hundred, one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and one, one hundred point six is a fever.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's a solid fever. If you're at one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>hundred one, basically have.

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<v Speaker 2>A short term fever, and then your body, in an

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<v Speaker 2>effort to cool itself, will dilate all the blood vessels

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<v Speaker 2>of the skin, usually in a hot flash scent, typically

0:16:20.240 --> 0:16:24.240
<v Speaker 2>the central area, so the head, the next, shoulders, chest, back, groin,

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<v Speaker 2>and dilate those blood vessels, which just drives the heat

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<v Speaker 2>out and you just sweat like crazy, and then you're

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<v Speaker 2>freezing because you're so wet. You know, your temperature goes

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<v Speaker 2>back to normal, but you're soaking wet. So yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 2>about one to three degrees.

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<v Speaker 1>Danielle an amazing woman who works with me. Why does

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<v Speaker 1>your body go through this? Why are you having hot

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<v Speaker 1>flashes with menopause? What's actually happening?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So there's a thermoregulatory center in our brain that

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<v Speaker 2>controls our body temperature, and that's the mechanism by which

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<v Speaker 2>we have a fever, which is a physiologic response to

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<v Speaker 2>an infection or medication, you know, adverse reaction whatever. We

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<v Speaker 2>don't know exactly how it happens, but there's something to

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<v Speaker 2>do with declining estrogen levels. Estrogen kind of stabilizes that

0:17:12.280 --> 0:17:16.600
<v Speaker 2>temperature center, and when you take that estrogen away that

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<v Speaker 2>it just becomes erratic and starts going off on its

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<v Speaker 2>own without the usual chemical signal.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw in your social media. Sorry to be uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, peeping on you, but you were talking about

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<v Speaker 1>this nightgown that you created because your hot flashes have stopped.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but I'm still hot.

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<v Speaker 1>Your body's still hot. So is that something you have

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<v Speaker 1>to worry about? Once the hot flashes stop, your your

0:17:38.880 --> 0:17:41.480
<v Speaker 1>body temperatures is still like cooked.

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<v Speaker 2>So you're inspiring me for my next TikTok, Like, here

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<v Speaker 2>are the things that hormone therapy did not help me with? Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>And definitely my hot flashes, the ones that woke me

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<v Speaker 2>up at night, that pulled me out of a meeting

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<v Speaker 2>that you know, embarrassed me in public, are gone. But

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just in general hotter all the time, And so

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<v Speaker 2>I was always freezing, freezing, bundled up under the covers,

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<v Speaker 2>going to bed with sweatpants. My husband's very excited. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not wearing a sweatpants to bed anymore. And that I

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<v Speaker 2>like have this great nightgown I've worn for years, and

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<v Speaker 2>I just cut the arms out of it, like wear

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<v Speaker 2>it like a trucker because I was so hot at night. Still, so,

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<v Speaker 2>hormon replacement therapy can do so many wonderful things for

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<v Speaker 2>our bodies, but it's not I can't give you back

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<v Speaker 2>your twenty five year old ovaries, right, you know that,

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<v Speaker 2>And that's okay. I think most women are fine with that.

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<v Speaker 2>They're not expecting that, but they just want to be

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<v Speaker 2>able to sleep and get on with their lives.

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<v Speaker 1>Hannah asked, how do you know when you are actually

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<v Speaker 1>in menopause?

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<v Speaker 2>That's a really good question. So if you were a normal,

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<v Speaker 2>regularly menstruating person, Okay, yeah, period every month and suddenly

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<v Speaker 2>that stops. If you're over the age of forty five

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<v Speaker 2>and you have not had a cycle when it was

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<v Speaker 2>regular before for a year, that is the definition of menopause.

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<v Speaker 2>As far as using clinical symptoms to make the diagnosis, now,

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<v Speaker 2>say you've had a hysterectomy or an ablation or some

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<v Speaker 2>procedure or surgery where you don't have periods anymore. Well,

0:19:18.359 --> 0:19:21.080
<v Speaker 2>sometimes just on the symptoms we can make the diagnosis

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<v Speaker 2>and your age. You know, clinically, there is a blood

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<v Speaker 2>test that we can use to diagnose complete menopause, that

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<v Speaker 2>postmenopausal state but because hormones fluctuate so wildly in pery menopause,

0:19:34.600 --> 0:19:37.280
<v Speaker 2>we don't really have good blood you'urine saliva tests to

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<v Speaker 2>diagnose that. It's a clinical diagnosis. So you need a

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<v Speaker 2>menopause friendly provider who knows what they're doing, who's willing

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<v Speaker 2>to talk to you, help untangle some of the other

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<v Speaker 2>diseases that kind of look like perimenopause, like hypodiroidism or

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<v Speaker 2>an autoimmune disease. You know, when I'm doing blood work,

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<v Speaker 2>hormones is not the first thing I check in a

0:19:54.480 --> 0:19:59.040
<v Speaker 2>perimenopausal woman. It's thyroid, it's nutritional deficiencies. It's a blood

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<v Speaker 2>count to look for a name, you know, based on.

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<v Speaker 1>Her symptoms, you're speaking of a normal period. Blair asked

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<v Speaker 1>a very interesting question. Does the age you get your

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<v Speaker 1>period effect when you start menopause? For example, if you

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<v Speaker 1>started your period very late in life, does that mean

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<v Speaker 1>menopause will come later.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, it's not a huge contributor, but we do see

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<v Speaker 2>that women who go through and I think it's before

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<v Speaker 2>the age of eleven, tend to have earlier menopause than

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<v Speaker 2>women who don't, and then therefore going through later. Because

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<v Speaker 2>again we're born with the finite amount of eggs, and

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<v Speaker 2>so if you kind of let them sleep for longer,

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<v Speaker 2>you'll have more that'll last you in your mix. Sure

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<v Speaker 2>it's not huge. There's a lot of environmental things that

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<v Speaker 2>go into what you know, genetics, exposure to certain chemicals,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, different things that affect when we go through menopause.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you talk about that exposure to chemicals and just

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<v Speaker 1>different foods and how our foods have changed. And again

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a big believer in diet and gut health and

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<v Speaker 1>all that young. Can you start menopause and have you

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<v Speaker 1>seen that number change over the years, like, for example,

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<v Speaker 1>I went through this with my daughter. Is like, girls

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<v Speaker 1>are hitting puberty quicker. You know, whether it's the milk,

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<v Speaker 1>whether or whatever you want to say, it is things

0:21:15.440 --> 0:21:17.000
<v Speaker 1>have changed and they're happening faster.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a good question. So we definitely know that women

0:21:22.359 --> 0:21:26.280
<v Speaker 2>girls are going through menarchy or puberty earlier than they

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<v Speaker 2>did one hundred years ago. Isn't that is a fact.

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<v Speaker 2>We think it's improved nutrition actually, so like one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>years ago, you know, the famine and all those things,

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<v Speaker 2>and then they're also have more body fat now and

0:21:38.440 --> 0:21:41.600
<v Speaker 2>that is leading to higher estrogen levels, which is contributing

0:21:41.680 --> 0:21:46.480
<v Speaker 2>to this earlier puberty. So we think on the back end,

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<v Speaker 2>we haven't seen that age of menopause change quite yet.

0:21:52.119 --> 0:21:56.399
<v Speaker 2>They're kind of driven by two different things. So we

0:21:56.480 --> 0:21:59.040
<v Speaker 2>know that smokers go through menopause early. So that's a

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<v Speaker 2>definite something that we know is not good for us

0:22:02.440 --> 0:22:03.160
<v Speaker 2>and attacks our.

0:22:03.080 --> 0:22:07.160
<v Speaker 1>Body reason six thousand, seven ninety two not to smoke, definitely.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, surgery is a risk factor, radiation, chemotherapy, those

0:22:11.000 --> 0:22:14.360
<v Speaker 2>are all risk factors for earlier menopause. I've seen menopause

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<v Speaker 2>in their twenties and it's rare, but you have certain

0:22:17.680 --> 0:22:20.399
<v Speaker 2>autoimmune conditions that will attack the o reason destroy them

0:22:20.440 --> 0:22:26.000
<v Speaker 2>before their time. So premature menopause is before the age

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<v Speaker 2>of forty, and that's about two percent of the population.

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<v Speaker 1>And is that a reason for concern? Is it? Obviously

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<v Speaker 1>you would get it checked out.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, estrogen is a protective hormone in so

0:22:37.520 --> 0:22:40.080
<v Speaker 2>many organ systems in our bodies. Definitely in our brains

0:22:40.080 --> 0:22:42.920
<v Speaker 2>and our hearts and the blood vessels of the heart

0:22:43.119 --> 0:22:46.880
<v Speaker 2>and our bones, and you know our female organs. When

0:22:46.920 --> 0:22:49.600
<v Speaker 2>you go through menopause earlier and you are not replaced

0:22:49.640 --> 0:22:52.640
<v Speaker 2>with hormone replacement therapy. You have a much higher risk

0:22:52.720 --> 0:22:59.520
<v Speaker 2>of cardiovascular disease, stroke, diabetes, inflammatory conditions, osteoporosis than a

0:22:59.560 --> 0:23:03.160
<v Speaker 2>woman who went through five ten years later. So those

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<v Speaker 2>it's really serious. If any of your listeners have gone

0:23:06.240 --> 0:23:09.359
<v Speaker 2>through premature menopause, they have got to see a physician

0:23:09.400 --> 0:23:12.640
<v Speaker 2>who knows what they're doing and get on hormone replacement therapy.

0:23:13.080 --> 0:23:15.360
<v Speaker 2>You know, there's definitely there's risks of being on any

0:23:15.440 --> 0:23:18.240
<v Speaker 2>medication correct and we've all known about the breast cancer

0:23:18.280 --> 0:23:20.280
<v Speaker 2>risk and that's been walked back. It's a very small

0:23:20.359 --> 0:23:22.359
<v Speaker 2>risk and it's really up to the patient and her

0:23:22.400 --> 0:23:26.080
<v Speaker 2>family history, et cetera. But they're a risk of not

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<v Speaker 2>being on hormone replacement therapy, which is the conversation I'm

0:23:29.600 --> 0:23:31.600
<v Speaker 2>trying to bring to the table interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone to know does menopause because you hear a lot

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<v Speaker 1>about this. It's right up there with I would say,

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<v Speaker 1>just if hot flashes are one, sex drive would be two.

0:23:42.119 --> 0:23:46.399
<v Speaker 1>That everybody talks about. It's the old cliche, does menopause

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<v Speaker 1>affect your sex drive?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, we definitely see one of the cardinal symptoms of menopause,

0:23:54.200 --> 0:23:56.399
<v Speaker 2>and it's not for everyone, but it is much more common,

0:23:56.600 --> 0:23:59.840
<v Speaker 2>is less sexual feelings is the way that we kind

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<v Speaker 2>of describe it. So this is probably a topic that

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<v Speaker 2>most of your followers will be interested in. So when

0:24:05.480 --> 0:24:09.879
<v Speaker 2>we talk about sexual function in a woman, there's usually

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<v Speaker 2>five buckets of areas that she is going to have issues,

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<v Speaker 2>and they can overlap. So the first is a relationship issue.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you're not happy, you don't feel supported, you

0:24:20.160 --> 0:24:22.919
<v Speaker 2>feel like whatever, you know, you're not happy with the partner.

0:24:23.119 --> 0:24:26.200
<v Speaker 2>That's normal that you're not going to want to have sex. Okay.

0:24:26.800 --> 0:24:29.440
<v Speaker 2>Then there is pain, if it hurts, we got to

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<v Speaker 2>fix that, you know before we address So then there

0:24:31.880 --> 0:24:37.879
<v Speaker 2>leaves desire, arousal, and orgasm. So desires what happens in

0:24:37.880 --> 0:24:42.560
<v Speaker 2>the brain. Arousal is the physiologic response to a stimulus,

0:24:42.600 --> 0:24:44.960
<v Speaker 2>so all the things that happen in the pelvis to

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<v Speaker 2>get you ready, the things elongate, blood gets engorged, just

0:24:48.080 --> 0:24:52.760
<v Speaker 2>like in a man. And then there is orgasm. So

0:24:52.760 --> 0:24:54.359
<v Speaker 2>so we kind of address each of those. They have

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<v Speaker 2>different treatment options. Most women who are in a nice relationship,

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<v Speaker 2>they love their partner, they want this, you know, they

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<v Speaker 2>miss it. They want to go back to the level

0:25:02.760 --> 0:25:05.600
<v Speaker 2>that they were. They're just feeling really sad about it.

0:25:05.760 --> 0:25:08.120
<v Speaker 2>That's a pure desire issue. And so there's a couple

0:25:08.160 --> 0:25:13.040
<v Speaker 2>of medications that can be helpful. Again, it's a complicated pathway.

0:25:13.119 --> 0:25:15.679
<v Speaker 2>There's some great books out there and great podcasts on

0:25:15.720 --> 0:25:19.240
<v Speaker 2>this whole subject. But Addie and va Lasi. Again I'm

0:25:19.240 --> 0:25:21.959
<v Speaker 2>not paid by these people, but are two medications at

0:25:21.960 --> 0:25:26.320
<v Speaker 2>increase dopamine in the brain. They are FT approved and

0:25:26.920 --> 0:25:29.080
<v Speaker 2>but they are pretty expensive and not covered by insurance.

0:25:29.080 --> 0:25:31.520
<v Speaker 2>But some patients go that route. And then testosterone can

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<v Speaker 2>actually be helpful, especially in postmentopause, for a woman, to

0:25:34.720 --> 0:25:38.760
<v Speaker 2>help her be more reactive to the stimulus that she

0:25:38.880 --> 0:25:40.920
<v Speaker 2>wants and get that part of her life back.

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<v Speaker 1>Because I guess so another one of my I won't

0:25:44.160 --> 0:25:45.480
<v Speaker 1>I won't name her because I don't know if she

0:25:45.480 --> 0:25:48.040
<v Speaker 1>wants her name on this one, but she said, you know,

0:25:48.119 --> 0:25:51.800
<v Speaker 1>it feels like I can't orgasm as easily anymore. And

0:25:52.720 --> 0:25:54.720
<v Speaker 1>obviously this is if you're if you're to that point

0:25:54.760 --> 0:25:56.600
<v Speaker 1>and you're and you know you're just not orgasm and

0:25:56.640 --> 0:25:59.840
<v Speaker 1>clearly you are wanting this, you're stimulated, and you're just

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<v Speaker 1>reaching that right.

0:26:02.400 --> 0:26:06.200
<v Speaker 2>And so that's a whole different class and different medications.

0:26:06.240 --> 0:26:08.120
<v Speaker 2>What happens is a lot of people are like, oh

0:26:08.119 --> 0:26:09.680
<v Speaker 2>my gosh, give me to saucer and I just need

0:26:09.680 --> 0:26:12.119
<v Speaker 2>that to fix me, and that's not going to help

0:26:12.440 --> 0:26:15.440
<v Speaker 2>in certain conditions. So I always have that conversation with

0:26:15.440 --> 0:26:18.960
<v Speaker 2>my patients. And there's a wonderful book called Come as

0:26:19.000 --> 0:26:23.800
<v Speaker 2>You Are by doctor Emily Nagowski, who really does a

0:26:23.800 --> 0:26:27.040
<v Speaker 2>deep dive on this subject. So any person who's struggling

0:26:27.080 --> 0:26:30.159
<v Speaker 2>with this and wants that back in their life and

0:26:30.280 --> 0:26:33.120
<v Speaker 2>is feeling kind of broken, then that's a wonderful book

0:26:33.160 --> 0:26:35.000
<v Speaker 2>to read because it really helps lay out what your

0:26:35.000 --> 0:26:37.920
<v Speaker 2>treatment options are and really makes you feel.

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<v Speaker 1>Like you're not alone. Whatever publicist came up with the

0:26:40.800 --> 0:26:45.400
<v Speaker 1>title of that book's yeah, well done. Come as you Are.

0:26:47.280 --> 0:26:51.639
<v Speaker 1>Diet is so important. So I just went to this

0:26:51.720 --> 0:26:54.160
<v Speaker 1>medical conference. Again I'm a bit of a nerd, and

0:26:54.200 --> 0:26:56.520
<v Speaker 1>I was listening to these doctors who are kind of

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<v Speaker 1>rearranging the way they're thinking about medicine instead of you know,

0:27:00.920 --> 0:27:04.280
<v Speaker 1>you get sick, you do this, you get cancer, you

0:27:04.320 --> 0:27:07.080
<v Speaker 1>do this, trying to look ahead of all this and

0:27:07.080 --> 0:27:10.000
<v Speaker 1>obviously gut health and diet is a huge part of it.

0:27:10.200 --> 0:27:12.800
<v Speaker 1>What I found interesting is what you said about menopause

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<v Speaker 1>and doctors and students only getting about an hour's worth

0:27:15.960 --> 0:27:19.440
<v Speaker 1>of knowledge. They said the same thing about diet.

0:27:19.480 --> 0:27:20.480
<v Speaker 2>Nutrition. Yeah.

0:27:20.560 --> 0:27:25.600
<v Speaker 1>Nutrition shocked me and stunned me that they just back

0:27:25.640 --> 0:27:27.919
<v Speaker 1>in the day and even now maybe are still just

0:27:28.000 --> 0:27:31.520
<v Speaker 1>not spending much time on nutrition and how huge that is.

0:27:31.600 --> 0:27:35.480
<v Speaker 1>And so my question is are there things that women

0:27:35.520 --> 0:27:38.800
<v Speaker 1>could be eating, drinking? What can they be doing that

0:27:38.880 --> 0:27:42.280
<v Speaker 1>will help the inflammatory issues?

0:27:42.920 --> 0:27:45.160
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely? And I wrote a whole book about it.

0:27:45.160 --> 0:27:47.720
<v Speaker 1>It's called The Galveston Diet. Everybody, Just so you know.

0:27:48.800 --> 0:27:51.240
<v Speaker 2>I went back to school. I was so frustrated with

0:27:51.280 --> 0:27:54.320
<v Speaker 2>my lack of knowledge and so hungry from no pun

0:27:54.359 --> 0:27:58.040
<v Speaker 2>intended for more information and wanted to better myself. You know,

0:27:58.080 --> 0:28:00.679
<v Speaker 2>I just felt pulled and drawn to do like on

0:28:00.760 --> 0:28:04.639
<v Speaker 2>my own dime. I found this culinary medicine program at

0:28:04.680 --> 0:28:08.959
<v Speaker 2>Tulane and you know, enrolled and it took about eighteen

0:28:09.000 --> 0:28:10.840
<v Speaker 2>months and I had to like fly around to go

0:28:10.880 --> 0:28:13.520
<v Speaker 2>do different labs and different coursework, and it just was

0:28:13.600 --> 0:28:15.560
<v Speaker 2>the best thing ever. And I was like, gosh, we

0:28:15.600 --> 0:28:17.879
<v Speaker 2>should have taught this at medical school. You know, this

0:28:17.920 --> 0:28:19.919
<v Speaker 2>would really really help, and so much of it is

0:28:20.000 --> 0:28:23.120
<v Speaker 2>preventative and really putting a framework around nutrition. We might

0:28:23.240 --> 0:28:27.440
<v Speaker 2>get an hour of nutrition you know, lectures in our

0:28:28.280 --> 0:28:32.600
<v Speaker 2>medical school and residency training. My daughter started med school

0:28:32.640 --> 0:28:35.040
<v Speaker 2>a couple of weeks ago and her undergrad degree is

0:28:35.080 --> 0:28:38.520
<v Speaker 2>in nutrition science. So like, honey, you're doing it right, you.

0:28:38.480 --> 0:28:41.440
<v Speaker 1>Know, I mean, especially what we know now, I mean,

0:28:41.480 --> 0:28:43.440
<v Speaker 1>I get it. You know. Ten twenty years ago, we

0:28:43.480 --> 0:28:45.719
<v Speaker 1>all thought it was about medicine and pharma and all that.

0:28:45.760 --> 0:28:48.520
<v Speaker 1>But now right now we know it is so linked

0:28:48.560 --> 0:28:50.320
<v Speaker 1>to our nutrition in our gut health.

0:28:50.720 --> 0:28:55.600
<v Speaker 2>Right. So like top tips for someone in perimenopause and

0:28:55.640 --> 0:28:58.240
<v Speaker 2>menopause are look at how much fiber you're getting in

0:28:58.280 --> 0:29:01.240
<v Speaker 2>your diet, you know. And one way to do that,

0:29:01.440 --> 0:29:04.520
<v Speaker 2>and it's pretty effective is download a free nutrition tracker.

0:29:04.840 --> 0:29:07.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm not trying to you know, stress anyone out or

0:29:07.920 --> 0:29:10.920
<v Speaker 2>give them, you know, neurosis about it if this is

0:29:10.920 --> 0:29:12.960
<v Speaker 2>going to trigger something and you don't do it. But

0:29:13.840 --> 0:29:15.880
<v Speaker 2>so many of us it's like using cash instead of

0:29:15.920 --> 0:29:17.800
<v Speaker 2>a credit card. You don't really know what you're eating.

0:29:17.840 --> 0:29:19.440
<v Speaker 2>You think you're eating healthy, and I thought I was

0:29:19.480 --> 0:29:21.360
<v Speaker 2>eating healthy for a long time. It said healthy on

0:29:21.400 --> 0:29:26.760
<v Speaker 2>the bag. So okay, So track your fiber intake, how

0:29:26.840 --> 0:29:29.960
<v Speaker 2>much you really getting through your food. And we should

0:29:29.960 --> 0:29:32.160
<v Speaker 2>be getting at least twenty five grams of fiber in

0:29:32.200 --> 0:29:34.120
<v Speaker 2>our diet per day, and a mix of soluble and

0:29:34.160 --> 0:29:37.480
<v Speaker 2>insoluble fiber. You know, insoluble fiber is what bulks up

0:29:37.720 --> 0:29:40.240
<v Speaker 2>our stool and makes it kind of run through quicker.

0:29:40.280 --> 0:29:42.760
<v Speaker 2>But the soluble fiber is dissolvable, and that's what feeds

0:29:42.760 --> 0:29:46.200
<v Speaker 2>our gout microbiome and keeps it healthy. And so, and

0:29:46.240 --> 0:29:50.600
<v Speaker 2>when you're eating food sources, you know, from various foods,

0:29:51.200 --> 0:29:54.640
<v Speaker 2>then you're getting so many other vitamins, minerals and nutrients

0:29:54.720 --> 0:29:58.239
<v Speaker 2>you know that are part of that fiber package. So

0:29:58.400 --> 0:30:00.160
<v Speaker 2>make sure you're getting twenty five grams of five in

0:30:00.160 --> 0:30:03.080
<v Speaker 2>your diet per day. Number two, watch the added sugars

0:30:03.080 --> 0:30:05.440
<v Speaker 2>and food. So, I know, the whole keto movement kind

0:30:05.440 --> 0:30:08.400
<v Speaker 2>of threw all sugars. All sugars are bad. What fruits

0:30:08.400 --> 0:30:12.120
<v Speaker 2>and vegetables were you know, that's probably, you know, not

0:30:12.280 --> 0:30:14.880
<v Speaker 2>the healthiest way you better option. Sure it's a way

0:30:14.880 --> 0:30:18.040
<v Speaker 2>to lose weight, but at what cost. And so when

0:30:18.080 --> 0:30:21.400
<v Speaker 2>you lose fruits and vegetables, you were losing a tremendous

0:30:21.400 --> 0:30:26.720
<v Speaker 2>amount of nutrients. And so my nutrition professor is like, well,

0:30:26.760 --> 0:30:30.400
<v Speaker 2>Mary Claire, nobody got fat eat and blueberries, you know exactly.

0:30:30.840 --> 0:30:34.600
<v Speaker 2>It's kind of a cowboy. But you know that on

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<v Speaker 2>with me, like why are we demonizing fruits and vegetables

0:30:38.840 --> 0:30:42.120
<v Speaker 2>when we there's so many things in our diets that

0:30:42.160 --> 0:30:45.840
<v Speaker 2>we're eating routinely that could probably be you know, done

0:30:45.880 --> 0:30:49.320
<v Speaker 2>in very much moderation and replacing that with fruits and vegetables.

0:30:49.360 --> 0:30:52.760
<v Speaker 2>So added sugars are the sugars added in cooking and

0:30:52.800 --> 0:30:56.520
<v Speaker 2>processing and alcohol, and so limiting those to twenty five

0:30:56.560 --> 0:30:58.720
<v Speaker 2>grams per day or less. So that's not saying never

0:30:58.800 --> 0:31:01.400
<v Speaker 2>you can't have a cookie or no celebrate birthday or

0:31:01.400 --> 0:31:04.720
<v Speaker 2>however you want to do that. But women who consistently

0:31:05.120 --> 0:31:06.880
<v Speaker 2>less than twenty five grams of out of sugars per

0:31:06.920 --> 0:31:11.200
<v Speaker 2>day have less visceral fat, better menopause symptoms. You know,

0:31:11.360 --> 0:31:12.400
<v Speaker 2>everything is better in there.

0:31:12.360 --> 0:31:26.680
<v Speaker 1>Right two, diabetes, you name it, all of it. This

0:31:26.800 --> 0:31:30.360
<v Speaker 1>next question is kind of specific to their diet. Amy,

0:31:30.400 --> 0:31:32.600
<v Speaker 1>who I do know very well, dear friend of mine.

0:31:32.600 --> 0:31:37.040
<v Speaker 1>She's forty nine, breaking into that fifty club. Clearly going

0:31:37.040 --> 0:31:41.680
<v Speaker 1>through metopause. Eating etamammy salmon and having sex has helped

0:31:41.720 --> 0:31:43.680
<v Speaker 1>my Hot flashes is this normal.

0:31:44.560 --> 0:31:50.120
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, So the sex is optional and love it, do

0:31:50.240 --> 0:31:52.440
<v Speaker 2>it for sure. It's a great way to stress relief.

0:31:53.440 --> 0:31:59.240
<v Speaker 2>But atamammy is rich in phytoestrogens. And so we've looked

0:31:59.280 --> 0:32:03.360
<v Speaker 2>at women throughout the world and hot flushes specifically, and

0:32:03.440 --> 0:32:06.080
<v Speaker 2>women in Asia have less hot flashes than women who

0:32:06.080 --> 0:32:11.280
<v Speaker 2>are Eurocentric. Interesting, and we think it's because their diets

0:32:11.280 --> 0:32:15.440
<v Speaker 2>are so rich in phytoestrogens. So phyto estrogen is an

0:32:15.560 --> 0:32:18.640
<v Speaker 2>estrogen like compound found in foods, and so the soy

0:32:18.720 --> 0:32:21.040
<v Speaker 2>kind of got a bad rap because of, you know,

0:32:21.200 --> 0:32:24.480
<v Speaker 2>possible links to breast cancer that has never played out. Actually,

0:32:24.880 --> 0:32:27.480
<v Speaker 2>women who have diets rich in natural soy who eat

0:32:27.480 --> 0:32:30.600
<v Speaker 2>out of mammy or soybeans on occasion have lower risk

0:32:30.640 --> 0:32:31.120
<v Speaker 2>of breast.

0:32:30.960 --> 0:32:34.920
<v Speaker 1>Cancer and probably fatty fish with good oils and etcetera, exactly.

0:32:34.640 --> 0:32:38.560
<v Speaker 2>The omega threes. Definitely, the fatty fish with the good

0:32:38.640 --> 0:32:41.680
<v Speaker 2>oils is going to decrease your risk of hot flashes.

0:32:42.200 --> 0:32:45.360
<v Speaker 1>So a couple more symptom questions. Sadie brought this up

0:32:45.400 --> 0:32:49.480
<v Speaker 1>apparently a Beverly Hills housewife fan. She said, Erica Jane,

0:32:49.680 --> 0:32:53.760
<v Speaker 1>a Beverly Hills housewife, claims she lost weight thinks to menopause.

0:32:54.400 --> 0:32:57.440
<v Speaker 1>Is this the truth? And can menopause just as easily

0:32:57.440 --> 0:32:58.880
<v Speaker 1>make you lose weight as gain weight.

0:33:00.360 --> 0:33:04.720
<v Speaker 2>So here's what we know. Women tend to gain weight

0:33:04.760 --> 0:33:07.120
<v Speaker 2>as we age. It's more to do with getting older

0:33:07.240 --> 0:33:10.680
<v Speaker 2>and loss of muscle mass and replacement of that muscle

0:33:10.680 --> 0:33:14.520
<v Speaker 2>mass with fat. And so I don't talk about what

0:33:14.640 --> 0:33:16.160
<v Speaker 2>I try not to talk about weight in terms of

0:33:16.160 --> 0:33:19.120
<v Speaker 2>the scale. I talk about muscle mass and fat mass

0:33:19.480 --> 0:33:23.520
<v Speaker 2>and visceral fat to be specific. So subcutaneous fat is

0:33:23.520 --> 0:33:25.800
<v Speaker 2>the fat we've known our whole lives. It's under our skin.

0:33:25.920 --> 0:33:27.480
<v Speaker 2>It gives us curve cell you like. We don't like it.

0:33:27.480 --> 0:33:30.120
<v Speaker 2>It's cosmetically distressing, but it's really unless it's a lot,

0:33:30.200 --> 0:33:34.720
<v Speaker 2>it's not that dangerous. Visceral fat starts really expanding in menopause.

0:33:34.800 --> 0:33:37.400
<v Speaker 2>That is the fat inside of our abdomen, our momentum

0:33:37.480 --> 0:33:40.400
<v Speaker 2>rocks around our internal organs, and that fat is pro

0:33:40.480 --> 0:33:44.280
<v Speaker 2>inflammatory and linked to hypertengen, diabetes, stroke and all the

0:33:44.360 --> 0:33:47.600
<v Speaker 2>chronic diseases. It makes you feel terrible and look kind

0:33:47.600 --> 0:33:51.080
<v Speaker 2>of pregnant. And so so many women are seeing an

0:33:51.160 --> 0:33:55.360
<v Speaker 2>increase in their abdominal circumference where they never had it before.

0:33:55.680 --> 0:34:01.640
<v Speaker 2>You know, and that is causing in resistance, increasing inflammation levels.

0:34:01.760 --> 0:34:04.240
<v Speaker 2>And so some of those nutritional things I talked about,

0:34:04.280 --> 0:34:08.520
<v Speaker 2>the added sugars, the fiber, actually, probiotics and tumoric have

0:34:08.600 --> 0:34:11.759
<v Speaker 2>been shown to help bring that visceral fat level down

0:34:11.840 --> 0:34:13.360
<v Speaker 2>and decrease inflammation markers.

0:34:13.840 --> 0:34:15.799
<v Speaker 1>You mentioned something, you just said it right there, and

0:34:15.800 --> 0:34:18.279
<v Speaker 1>you also said this on social media. I found it

0:34:18.360 --> 0:34:21.840
<v Speaker 1>very interesting, again, just kind of being in this world

0:34:22.000 --> 0:34:26.080
<v Speaker 1>and loving this science behind it, especially with women, the

0:34:26.239 --> 0:34:34.160
<v Speaker 1>percentage of muscle you lose as you age, and correct

0:34:34.160 --> 0:34:35.680
<v Speaker 1>me if I'm wrong, But what you were saying is,

0:34:36.880 --> 0:34:39.799
<v Speaker 1>don't just worry about the scale, don't worry about how

0:34:39.880 --> 0:34:43.239
<v Speaker 1>much you weigh, don't just worry about jumping on a treadmill.

0:34:43.400 --> 0:34:46.839
<v Speaker 1>Think about gaining some muscle and keeping that sustaining that

0:34:46.920 --> 0:34:48.960
<v Speaker 1>muscle as you get older. And that is huge for

0:34:49.000 --> 0:34:49.400
<v Speaker 1>a woman.

0:34:50.000 --> 0:34:52.439
<v Speaker 2>That is one of the biggest lessons I've learned through

0:34:52.440 --> 0:34:55.240
<v Speaker 2>this whole journey that I've been on, you know, learning

0:34:55.360 --> 0:34:58.640
<v Speaker 2>nutrition classes, look at talking to other experts, you know,

0:34:59.280 --> 0:35:01.760
<v Speaker 2>figuring out what Peter A. T Is trying to say,

0:35:02.000 --> 0:35:05.200
<v Speaker 2>you know, and applying that to us as females. When

0:35:05.200 --> 0:35:09.000
<v Speaker 2>you add in the endocrine aging through menopause, and what

0:35:09.040 --> 0:35:13.200
<v Speaker 2>we see in menopause is acceleration of the muscle mass loss,

0:35:13.400 --> 0:35:16.719
<v Speaker 2>which is immediately replaced. You know, the scale may be

0:35:17.120 --> 0:35:19.759
<v Speaker 2>you know, whoever the housewife is. She may be like,

0:35:19.800 --> 0:35:23.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm doing great, I'm doing great. But if she's replacing,

0:35:23.719 --> 0:35:26.439
<v Speaker 2>you know, losing muscle mass and replacing it with fat,

0:35:26.480 --> 0:35:28.680
<v Speaker 2>she's not healthier. She won't live as long.

0:35:28.560 --> 0:35:30.120
<v Speaker 1>Because muscle weighs more than fat.

0:35:31.239 --> 0:35:35.200
<v Speaker 2>And so my own workouts have changed. For twenty five years,

0:35:35.280 --> 0:35:37.279
<v Speaker 2>thirty years, I worked out to be thin. That was

0:35:37.320 --> 0:35:39.000
<v Speaker 2>my goal. I wanted to look a certain way. I

0:35:39.000 --> 0:35:41.560
<v Speaker 2>wanted to fit in certain clothes. I had skinny privilege.

0:35:42.000 --> 0:35:44.360
<v Speaker 2>And now if I could do anything like your twenty

0:35:44.360 --> 0:35:47.399
<v Speaker 2>five year olds, your staffers, my kids are much better

0:35:47.400 --> 0:35:49.440
<v Speaker 2>about this than I was at that age. They are

0:35:49.440 --> 0:35:51.920
<v Speaker 2>not so focused on being thin. They know they need

0:35:51.960 --> 0:35:55.040
<v Speaker 2>to be strong. When they work out, they lift weights.

0:35:55.080 --> 0:35:57.560
<v Speaker 2>You know, they're not just running or doing aerobics or

0:35:57.600 --> 0:35:59.719
<v Speaker 2>doing something cardio. They know that that's part of it.

0:35:59.760 --> 0:36:02.720
<v Speaker 2>But they recognize the importance of muscle training and keeping

0:36:02.800 --> 0:36:03.279
<v Speaker 2>it up.

0:36:03.480 --> 0:36:05.319
<v Speaker 1>And ladies don't worry. Everyone says, oh, I don't want

0:36:05.320 --> 0:36:08.640
<v Speaker 1>to bulk up you're not gonna bulk not Arnold Schwarzenegger,

0:36:08.680 --> 0:36:10.520
<v Speaker 1>don't worry about it.

0:36:10.640 --> 0:36:13.400
<v Speaker 2>Well, bulk up. No, it's important.

0:36:13.520 --> 0:36:17.279
<v Speaker 1>Alexandra has a very interesting issue. She says, my hair

0:36:17.360 --> 0:36:20.839
<v Speaker 1>is thinning, but I'm also growing a beard. What's up

0:36:20.880 --> 0:36:22.640
<v Speaker 1>with that?

0:36:22.640 --> 0:36:25.080
<v Speaker 2>That is just one of the most common things that

0:36:25.120 --> 0:36:27.600
<v Speaker 2>I hear in menopause is you're losing hair from places

0:36:27.640 --> 0:36:30.160
<v Speaker 2>you want it, but it's popping up in new places

0:36:30.200 --> 0:36:31.080
<v Speaker 2>where you never had it.

0:36:31.120 --> 0:36:33.640
<v Speaker 1>I will say, this is where men and women are equal.

0:36:33.719 --> 0:36:35.640
<v Speaker 1>We typically I know I have a good head of

0:36:35.640 --> 0:36:38.239
<v Speaker 1>hair thanks to my mom, but typically we lose our

0:36:38.280 --> 0:36:40.880
<v Speaker 1>hair up top pretty early and then it just starts

0:36:40.880 --> 0:36:45.840
<v Speaker 1>going elsewhere back, so we'll talk about.

0:36:45.719 --> 0:36:47.759
<v Speaker 2>The chin hair and the hair the new hair that

0:36:47.800 --> 0:36:52.759
<v Speaker 2>we don't want. That's usually hormonal, and so as our

0:36:52.880 --> 0:36:57.200
<v Speaker 2>estrogen levels decline, our liver stops making something called steroid

0:36:57.200 --> 0:37:00.799
<v Speaker 2>hormone binding globulin. It's basically a protein carries our sex

0:37:00.840 --> 0:37:03.480
<v Speaker 2>hormones around, and when they're bound to the protein, they're

0:37:03.520 --> 0:37:06.000
<v Speaker 2>not active. And so even though your levels might be

0:37:06.040 --> 0:37:08.080
<v Speaker 2>the same, if you don't have as much as that protein,

0:37:08.160 --> 0:37:10.200
<v Speaker 2>the activity of some of those hormones is going to

0:37:10.200 --> 0:37:12.680
<v Speaker 2>be higher, and so we see in this transition, the

0:37:12.719 --> 0:37:15.960
<v Speaker 2>activity of our androgens gets higher, even though are levels

0:37:16.080 --> 0:37:19.440
<v Speaker 2>or maybe lower or the same, and that's leading to

0:37:19.960 --> 0:37:22.800
<v Speaker 2>new fun I have one right here that I always

0:37:22.920 --> 0:37:28.640
<v Speaker 2>do surveillance for on my chin, and so so there. Fortunately,

0:37:28.640 --> 0:37:30.640
<v Speaker 2>we have lots of cosmetic ways to rid ourselves with

0:37:30.719 --> 0:37:33.080
<v Speaker 2>those peskiers and or just pluck them and get on

0:37:33.120 --> 0:37:35.320
<v Speaker 2>with your day. But hair loss on your head is

0:37:35.320 --> 0:37:37.920
<v Speaker 2>a little more complicated because there's multiple things that can

0:37:37.960 --> 0:37:41.200
<v Speaker 2>cause that. We have genetic issues, nutritional issues, of course,

0:37:41.239 --> 0:37:44.520
<v Speaker 2>hormone issues. I have a YouTube video if anyone cares,

0:37:44.719 --> 0:37:47.040
<v Speaker 2>where I talk about all the ways women can lose

0:37:47.080 --> 0:37:49.919
<v Speaker 2>hair and all the different treatment options. Sometimes it takes

0:37:49.920 --> 0:37:51.919
<v Speaker 2>a visit to a dermatologist to figure out what's really

0:37:51.960 --> 0:37:52.319
<v Speaker 2>going on.

0:37:52.760 --> 0:37:57.400
<v Speaker 1>Another symptom that is often not talked about. But she asked,

0:37:57.560 --> 0:37:59.759
<v Speaker 1>I sometimes leak urine or can't make it to the

0:37:59.760 --> 0:38:01.640
<v Speaker 1>back through me in time. Is this something I just

0:38:01.719 --> 0:38:02.399
<v Speaker 1>have to live with?

0:38:02.920 --> 0:38:06.360
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely not, no. So Urinarian continence can be one of

0:38:06.400 --> 0:38:10.719
<v Speaker 2>the most devastating hallmarks of menopause because it's so life

0:38:10.719 --> 0:38:14.760
<v Speaker 2>disruptive and it's frankly embarrassing, and so there is basically

0:38:14.800 --> 0:38:19.200
<v Speaker 2>three buckets of incontinents. Again, one is stress in continence,

0:38:19.239 --> 0:38:22.239
<v Speaker 2>which is you cough, you laugh, you sneeze, you put

0:38:22.280 --> 0:38:24.480
<v Speaker 2>pressure on the bladder and it leaks where it used

0:38:24.520 --> 0:38:25.680
<v Speaker 2>to not. You used to be able to go out

0:38:25.719 --> 0:38:28.600
<v Speaker 2>with your girlfriends, laugh, tell a story and you wouldn't leak.

0:38:29.200 --> 0:38:32.480
<v Speaker 2>And that is an anatomic issue. You have overridden the

0:38:32.520 --> 0:38:37.200
<v Speaker 2>pressure valve that held the urethra up, and having babies, smoking,

0:38:37.400 --> 0:38:40.240
<v Speaker 2>being overweight, that's all contributing factors. And loss of hormones

0:38:40.239 --> 0:38:42.920
<v Speaker 2>from menopause. So for some patients, just getting them on

0:38:42.960 --> 0:38:45.880
<v Speaker 2>hormone therapy or putting estrogen back will help strengthen that

0:38:45.920 --> 0:38:48.240
<v Speaker 2>tissue back up where you can hold that valve back.

0:38:48.640 --> 0:38:53.480
<v Speaker 2>Then there's urging continents, which is an autonomic spasm of

0:38:53.520 --> 0:38:56.120
<v Speaker 2>the bladder. You're not telling your brain to do anything,

0:38:56.120 --> 0:38:57.960
<v Speaker 2>it just kind of sometimes it's a key in the

0:38:58.000 --> 0:39:00.360
<v Speaker 2>lock or there's some kind of a trigger, but you

0:39:00.400 --> 0:39:02.160
<v Speaker 2>feel like you have to go and you run to

0:39:02.200 --> 0:39:04.319
<v Speaker 2>the bathroom immediately and it's just running down your leg.

0:39:04.800 --> 0:39:07.640
<v Speaker 2>And so that is treated with medication to relax the

0:39:07.640 --> 0:39:10.280
<v Speaker 2>walls of the bladder. And then there's a neurogenic bladder.

0:39:10.320 --> 0:39:14.920
<v Speaker 2>Pretty rare, usually in diabetics or spinal cord injuries where

0:39:15.080 --> 0:39:18.400
<v Speaker 2>you lose the ability your brain cannot get the signal

0:39:18.440 --> 0:39:20.520
<v Speaker 2>that the bladder's full and you need to be And

0:39:20.600 --> 0:39:23.400
<v Speaker 2>so most women have stress or urge, your combination of

0:39:23.440 --> 0:39:26.880
<v Speaker 2>the two. And there's fortunately EU rogoncologists who can help you.

0:39:27.040 --> 0:39:28.799
<v Speaker 2>They're a specialist and what I did and they did

0:39:28.800 --> 0:39:31.879
<v Speaker 2>more training to help you kind of figure out what's

0:39:31.880 --> 0:39:33.360
<v Speaker 2>going on and get you the right treatment.

0:39:33.800 --> 0:39:37.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure if this came with the hot flash issue,

0:39:37.760 --> 0:39:40.480
<v Speaker 1>but Lisa asked, what can I do if I have

0:39:40.600 --> 0:39:44.000
<v Speaker 1>trouble sleeping, which is something else that probably comes with

0:39:44.040 --> 0:39:45.280
<v Speaker 1>the hot flashes and everything.

0:39:45.840 --> 0:39:49.200
<v Speaker 2>Yes, sleep disruption is one of the top complaints more

0:39:49.200 --> 0:39:54.000
<v Speaker 2>than hot flashes and so, and it's complicated definitely. If

0:39:54.000 --> 0:39:58.040
<v Speaker 2>your hot flashes are waking you up, then sleep then

0:39:58.280 --> 0:40:01.440
<v Speaker 2>you know, hormone replacement therapy really really helpful for you.

0:40:02.719 --> 0:40:05.120
<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of you know, environment things that you

0:40:05.160 --> 0:40:07.520
<v Speaker 2>can do, like cooling the room and things that I

0:40:07.600 --> 0:40:09.960
<v Speaker 2>kind of took for Randa before that. I absolutely have

0:40:10.040 --> 0:40:11.719
<v Speaker 2>to have the right pillow, the right blanket, the right

0:40:11.840 --> 0:40:14.960
<v Speaker 2>night down, the right you know. I also my alcohol

0:40:15.000 --> 0:40:20.880
<v Speaker 2>tolerance in menopause has gone away, and one glass of

0:40:20.920 --> 0:40:23.080
<v Speaker 2>wine and I will not sleep. And that is a choice.

0:40:23.080 --> 0:40:25.840
<v Speaker 2>If I choose to drink, I'm choosing to not sleep.

0:40:25.880 --> 0:40:27.480
<v Speaker 1>And you know what's coming.

0:40:28.520 --> 0:40:31.960
<v Speaker 2>I know what's coming. And so you have to prioritize

0:40:31.960 --> 0:40:34.360
<v Speaker 2>your sleep and menopause. Like you have to prioritize your muscle.

0:40:34.719 --> 0:40:36.680
<v Speaker 2>You have to prioritize your sleep or it's going to

0:40:36.719 --> 0:40:39.919
<v Speaker 2>go away. And so hormon therapy can go a long way.

0:40:40.000 --> 0:40:42.920
<v Speaker 2>I sleep beautifully now as long as I don't drink.

0:40:43.200 --> 0:40:45.799
<v Speaker 2>But again, sleep's more complicated. There's you know, you have

0:40:45.840 --> 0:40:48.000
<v Speaker 2>to make sure you have all the sleep hygiene things

0:40:48.040 --> 0:40:52.160
<v Speaker 2>done same bedtime. You know. I did a podcast with

0:40:52.160 --> 0:40:53.720
<v Speaker 2>a sleep specialist and.

0:40:53.880 --> 0:40:57.359
<v Speaker 1>Especially treatise like we are children when you have kids, right,

0:40:57.480 --> 0:40:59.719
<v Speaker 1>you swear by that schedule, do not get off the

0:40:59.719 --> 0:41:00.440
<v Speaker 1>scale schule.

0:41:00.719 --> 0:41:02.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I swear by the schedule lab at.

0:41:02.600 --> 0:41:03.080
<v Speaker 1>The same time.

0:41:03.560 --> 0:41:05.040
<v Speaker 2>Baby. I mean that's us.

0:41:05.120 --> 0:41:10.719
<v Speaker 1>Now it all comes full circle, doesn't it. Okay? Can

0:41:10.760 --> 0:41:12.279
<v Speaker 1>I be a guy for two seconds?

0:41:12.480 --> 0:41:12.680
<v Speaker 2>Sure?

0:41:13.680 --> 0:41:17.759
<v Speaker 1>Do men go through a similar yeah, menopause.

0:41:18.760 --> 0:41:25.400
<v Speaker 2>So I've looked at this data and the main way

0:41:25.560 --> 0:41:28.000
<v Speaker 2>that we make to sascer one, both men and women

0:41:28.880 --> 0:41:31.400
<v Speaker 2>about fifty percent and a woman is from the adrenal

0:41:31.400 --> 0:41:34.719
<v Speaker 2>glands for androgens, and then we make out some in

0:41:34.760 --> 0:41:39.399
<v Speaker 2>about half or in the ovaries, and so men it's

0:41:39.480 --> 0:41:44.000
<v Speaker 2>mostly from the testicles and then some from precursors from

0:41:44.000 --> 0:41:48.040
<v Speaker 2>the adrenal glands as well. We see your peak for

0:41:48.160 --> 0:41:51.840
<v Speaker 2>men at about nineteen and then it kind of gently

0:41:51.920 --> 0:41:55.160
<v Speaker 2>drifts down to about forty, and for the vast majority

0:41:55.200 --> 0:41:58.560
<v Speaker 2>of men from forty till death it remains about the same.

0:41:59.120 --> 0:42:03.120
<v Speaker 2>What happens is is a very large intervariability of taesoscer

0:42:03.320 --> 0:42:07.040
<v Speaker 2>levels between men. Where normal is two hundred and I

0:42:07.040 --> 0:42:10.239
<v Speaker 2>think fifty six to about one thousand. Okay, most men

0:42:10.280 --> 0:42:13.680
<v Speaker 2>don't feel okay till they're about four hundred, so that's

0:42:13.680 --> 0:42:18.400
<v Speaker 2>still a pretty wide window for sure variability. And so

0:42:19.719 --> 0:42:22.520
<v Speaker 2>aging does a lot to us. And so you're kind of,

0:42:22.560 --> 0:42:24.440
<v Speaker 2>you know, living your best life going about and then

0:42:24.480 --> 0:42:27.760
<v Speaker 2>the aging factors kicked in. You know, you're getting older,

0:42:27.800 --> 0:42:31.879
<v Speaker 2>things are slowing down. Sometimes a little extra testosterone can

0:42:31.960 --> 0:42:36.520
<v Speaker 2>help you improve performance, feel better, you know, muscle, performance, brain,

0:42:37.000 --> 0:42:37.880
<v Speaker 2>all the things.

0:42:37.880 --> 0:42:38.960
<v Speaker 1>Like estag everything.

0:42:39.520 --> 0:42:43.360
<v Speaker 2>There are testosterone receptors throughout our body. And so this

0:42:43.480 --> 0:42:46.560
<v Speaker 2>is not my area of expertise, So there's not a manopause. No,

0:42:46.760 --> 0:42:49.040
<v Speaker 2>we do see a gentle decline and then a kind

0:42:49.040 --> 0:42:52.480
<v Speaker 2>of a stabilization about age forty. But for some men,

0:42:52.600 --> 0:42:58.799
<v Speaker 2>testosterone supplementation in physiologic ranges can be really helpful to

0:42:58.840 --> 0:43:01.080
<v Speaker 2>help them feel better and perform and function better.

0:43:01.760 --> 0:43:03.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to say he deserves a book, but

0:43:04.120 --> 0:43:06.719
<v Speaker 1>if you could go back and write your husband a

0:43:06.760 --> 0:43:12.279
<v Speaker 1>pamphlet how to guide to help you and be there

0:43:12.320 --> 0:43:15.160
<v Speaker 1>for you as you're going through menopause, are there some

0:43:15.239 --> 0:43:18.040
<v Speaker 1>things that you would tell other men that, gosh, are

0:43:18.080 --> 0:43:20.520
<v Speaker 1>going to be going through this with their significant other.

0:43:21.080 --> 0:43:25.680
<v Speaker 2>That's such a good question. I went through So I

0:43:25.719 --> 0:43:29.440
<v Speaker 2>was on birth control pills for most of my perimenopause,

0:43:29.480 --> 0:43:31.600
<v Speaker 2>so mine was kind of mass okay, and then I

0:43:31.640 --> 0:43:35.160
<v Speaker 2>came off. And then if you read my book, one

0:43:35.200 --> 0:43:37.520
<v Speaker 2>of my brothers passed away, and so I was going

0:43:37.560 --> 0:43:42.120
<v Speaker 2>through this like horrific life event and perimenopausal. I was

0:43:42.160 --> 0:43:44.480
<v Speaker 2>gaslighting myself. He didn't know what the hell to do

0:43:44.520 --> 0:43:47.920
<v Speaker 2>with me. I mean I was not sleeping, sweating, flashing,

0:43:48.120 --> 0:43:51.360
<v Speaker 2>crying dramatic. I mean everything. My brother died in and

0:43:51.400 --> 0:43:53.279
<v Speaker 2>I was like crying all the way home. From work,

0:43:53.320 --> 0:43:55.799
<v Speaker 2>I go to clinic and patch myself together and take

0:43:55.840 --> 0:43:57.759
<v Speaker 2>care of patients and go be the you know, then

0:43:57.800 --> 0:44:00.719
<v Speaker 2>come home and move the whole way home. And I

0:44:00.760 --> 0:44:04.200
<v Speaker 2>didn't even recognize my own perim. I thought I was

0:44:04.200 --> 0:44:07.360
<v Speaker 2>a dang. I just thought I was crazy and grieving.

0:44:07.440 --> 0:44:10.520
<v Speaker 2>And then one day, like the grief got better and

0:44:10.560 --> 0:44:13.200
<v Speaker 2>I was like, you know, I realized I wasn't a

0:44:13.280 --> 0:44:15.960
<v Speaker 2>sad whatever, but I was still miserable. I felt horrible.

0:44:16.400 --> 0:44:19.479
<v Speaker 2>That joint pain for me was like, Okay, I'm dying,

0:44:19.600 --> 0:44:23.120
<v Speaker 2>something is wrong, and he's just tiptoeing around, scheduling a

0:44:23.120 --> 0:44:25.120
<v Speaker 2>lot of you know, trips out of town.

0:44:25.560 --> 0:44:28.120
<v Speaker 1>You know, just like just scared to death. He's scared

0:44:28.120 --> 0:44:28.560
<v Speaker 1>to death.

0:44:29.600 --> 0:44:32.640
<v Speaker 2>So I think, I think the more we talk and

0:44:32.680 --> 0:44:34.719
<v Speaker 2>the more we educate, and the more women get on

0:44:34.800 --> 0:44:37.360
<v Speaker 2>board with being able to recognize their own symptoms and

0:44:37.400 --> 0:44:40.799
<v Speaker 2>empower and educate themselves, and then their partners getting on board,

0:44:40.840 --> 0:44:43.000
<v Speaker 2>I think it's going to make I really hope it's

0:44:43.000 --> 0:44:45.440
<v Speaker 2>going to decrease the divorce rate at this age, you know,

0:44:46.000 --> 0:44:49.240
<v Speaker 2>and so so much of divorces lack of communication and

0:44:49.480 --> 0:44:51.839
<v Speaker 2>not understanding where the other person's coming from. And so

0:44:52.280 --> 0:44:54.200
<v Speaker 2>I mean, there was also a really rough time in

0:44:54.239 --> 0:44:56.759
<v Speaker 2>our marriage as well. I'm sure we just weren't communicate.

0:44:56.880 --> 0:44:58.160
<v Speaker 1>It's like a stranger moves in.

0:44:59.280 --> 0:45:02.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, so he didn't know what to do. He's

0:45:02.280 --> 0:45:04.720
<v Speaker 2>just living his life. You know. Everything's fine.

0:45:05.480 --> 0:45:07.799
<v Speaker 1>So and some of this stuff can be embarrassing. So

0:45:07.840 --> 0:45:12.799
<v Speaker 1>maybe the takeaway is for both sides communicate, communicate, try.

0:45:12.920 --> 0:45:14.279
<v Speaker 2>But I think if you were to touch me on

0:45:14.320 --> 0:45:16.399
<v Speaker 2>the shoulder and said, could you be menopausal? I would

0:45:16.400 --> 0:45:20.000
<v Speaker 2>have killed him, you know, because of this negative stereotype

0:45:20.040 --> 0:45:21.440
<v Speaker 2>of menopause at the time.

0:45:21.480 --> 0:45:29.160
<v Speaker 1>I dare you, so, I guess your advice would be

0:45:29.200 --> 0:45:33.200
<v Speaker 1>keep your head down and playing a bunch of golf yourself.

0:45:33.400 --> 0:45:37.680
<v Speaker 2>You know, there's there's great books out there, you know.

0:45:37.880 --> 0:45:40.560
<v Speaker 2>Open the conversation. I think though, the conversation needs to

0:45:40.600 --> 0:45:43.120
<v Speaker 2>start with her and her saying something in my body

0:45:43.160 --> 0:45:45.400
<v Speaker 2>is changing. You know. I can't tell you. I have

0:45:45.440 --> 0:45:46.360
<v Speaker 2>a menopause clinic.

0:45:46.360 --> 0:45:46.520
<v Speaker 1>Now.

0:45:46.560 --> 0:45:48.960
<v Speaker 2>That's all I do. I don't do babies or surgery.

0:45:49.040 --> 0:45:52.080
<v Speaker 2>I just take care of menopause patients and probably fifteen

0:45:52.120 --> 0:45:54.120
<v Speaker 2>to twenty percent of them will bring in a loved one,

0:45:54.560 --> 0:45:57.640
<v Speaker 2>usually their partner, who just want to hear it. Who

0:45:57.800 --> 0:46:00.279
<v Speaker 2>just want to be part of this solution, who want

0:46:00.320 --> 0:46:02.920
<v Speaker 2>to be helpful, and it's really just touches me so

0:46:03.080 --> 0:46:03.839
<v Speaker 2>much to see that.

0:46:05.160 --> 0:46:07.400
<v Speaker 1>You mean, it's not like it, but I guess it's

0:46:07.480 --> 0:46:10.879
<v Speaker 1>somewhat like going through childbirth, where when you go through

0:46:10.920 --> 0:46:12.680
<v Speaker 1>it all together and you hear it all and you're

0:46:12.760 --> 0:46:16.360
<v Speaker 1>educated at the same time, it makes sense. Yeah, and

0:46:17.000 --> 0:46:21.680
<v Speaker 1>it probably allows the communication to flow a little bit better. Doctor.

0:46:21.760 --> 0:46:25.279
<v Speaker 1>I can't thank you enough. I have absolutely loved this,

0:46:25.360 --> 0:46:26.840
<v Speaker 1>believe it or not. I don't know if that's weird

0:46:27.320 --> 0:46:29.920
<v Speaker 1>or not, but I've really enjoyed our conversation.

0:46:31.360 --> 0:46:34.040
<v Speaker 2>Well, thank you. I love talking about this. It's my passion.

0:46:34.239 --> 0:46:37.040
<v Speaker 1>You are phenomenal at it the way you articulate it

0:46:37.080 --> 0:46:39.520
<v Speaker 1>and put it in these bite sized pieces. And by

0:46:39.520 --> 0:46:42.520
<v Speaker 1>the way, just if you don't want to just listen

0:46:42.520 --> 0:46:45.320
<v Speaker 1>to me, talk to the doctor. Find her on Instagram

0:46:45.360 --> 0:46:47.440
<v Speaker 1>because you put up so much good stuff. I know

0:46:47.480 --> 0:46:49.640
<v Speaker 1>you're on TikTok as well. I'm not, but find you

0:46:49.680 --> 0:46:53.440
<v Speaker 1>on TikTok. Clearly you have YouTube videos at doctor Mary

0:46:53.520 --> 0:46:58.480
<v Speaker 1>Clare on Instagram. You also have the book The Galveston Diet.

0:46:58.880 --> 0:47:00.919
<v Speaker 2>And our website is undiet dot com.

0:47:00.960 --> 0:47:04.720
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Galvestondiet dot com and are you working on another book?

0:47:05.239 --> 0:47:09.839
<v Speaker 2>I am. So it's called The New Menopause, and take

0:47:09.920 --> 0:47:12.320
<v Speaker 2>everything I just said in the last hour and expand

0:47:12.360 --> 0:47:15.160
<v Speaker 2>it times one hundred and I really want it to

0:47:15.200 --> 0:47:19.359
<v Speaker 2>be a critical resource guide for patients and partners and

0:47:19.520 --> 0:47:23.960
<v Speaker 2>loved ones to understand what's out there, what's available, what

0:47:24.000 --> 0:47:26.840
<v Speaker 2>the symptoms might be. It's something you would hand a

0:47:26.880 --> 0:47:29.960
<v Speaker 2>twenty thirty year old so she's ready, you know. Remember

0:47:30.000 --> 0:47:31.680
<v Speaker 2>that it's like what to expect when you're never going

0:47:31.719 --> 0:47:32.719
<v Speaker 2>to expect again. Right.

0:47:33.400 --> 0:47:35.600
<v Speaker 1>Uh. And by the way, what a great thing, because

0:47:35.600 --> 0:47:38.600
<v Speaker 1>it is as we started this whole conversation, it is

0:47:38.640 --> 0:47:41.320
<v Speaker 1>astounding to me that we don't do more to educate

0:47:41.400 --> 0:47:44.440
<v Speaker 1>women for something that you are all going to go

0:47:44.520 --> 0:47:48.240
<v Speaker 1>through and we just kind of blindly and hopefully maybe

0:47:48.239 --> 0:47:51.120
<v Speaker 1>your mom's mentioned something, and that's how you that's how

0:47:51.160 --> 0:47:53.680
<v Speaker 1>you get educated. So hopefully you are kind of breaking

0:47:53.719 --> 0:47:57.040
<v Speaker 1>down that barrier and knocking down that wall so at

0:47:57.120 --> 0:47:59.560
<v Speaker 1>least at the very least you can see what's coming

0:47:59.600 --> 0:48:03.600
<v Speaker 1>and underst stand it when it hits. That's it, doctor,

0:48:03.640 --> 0:48:05.680
<v Speaker 1>Thank you, thank you so much for the time, for

0:48:05.760 --> 0:48:09.439
<v Speaker 1>the knowledge, and we need to do this again, I'd

0:48:09.440 --> 0:48:11.840
<v Speaker 1>love to. We will continue this conversation because it is

0:48:11.840 --> 0:48:13.759
<v Speaker 1>incredibly important. So thank you so much.

0:48:14.320 --> 0:48:16.480
<v Speaker 2>Okay, take care, Thanks for listening.

0:48:16.680 --> 0:48:19.279
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0:48:19.719 --> 0:48:21.480
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