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Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome back to Movie Mike's Movie Podcast. I

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Speaker 1: am your host, Movie Mike, and well, well, well we've

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Speaker 1: reached the end of another year. Looking back my top

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Speaker 1: sometimes people just say that, like all it means the

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Speaker 1: world to me. It legit means so much to me

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Speaker 1: that you listen to this podcast. As of now, I

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Speaker 1: have been doing this podcast for five years. Hey, five

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Speaker 1: year anniversary. I didn't even think about it. I don't

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Speaker 1: about it because I just keep moving, I keep rolling.

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Speaker 1: But it was December twenty nineteen when I did the

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Speaker 1: first ever episode of Movie Mike's Movie Podcast, and now

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Speaker 1: five years later, I think like two hundred and sixty

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Speaker 1: has been. I go back and listen to those first

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Speaker 1: early episodes where I was just screaming, not knowing what

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Speaker 1: I was talking about. I love movies. Then, I've always

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Speaker 1: loved movies. I just didn't really know how to do

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Speaker 1: a podcast about myself. And how this podcast has grown

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Speaker 1: because of you listening. I'm talking about my day ones

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Speaker 1: who have been there since episode one back in twenty nineteen.

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Speaker 2: You guys know.

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Speaker 1: Who you are, and over the course of these years

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Speaker 1: we've developed this movie crew. I feel like we have

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Speaker 1: this bond of just people who enjoy talking about movies.

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Speaker 1: You're not always going to agree with me, but I

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Speaker 1: can always see in the comments, the emails, the views,

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Speaker 1: or the downloads, everything means a lot to me. So

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Speaker 1: it genuinely does, and it affects my well being of

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Speaker 1: something that is just me, then I can appreciate and

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Speaker 1: look back at like, oh I did something there and

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Speaker 1: connected with people. That is what this podcast is. So

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Speaker 1: I think whenever I'm feeling a little like I don't

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Speaker 1: even know what I'm doing at this point, I go

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Speaker 1: to this podcast because I feel it's where I'm the

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Speaker 1: most comfortable and where I've really wanted to do in

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Speaker 1: my life what I've set out to do. So really

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Speaker 1: means a lot to me. When you say you're subscribed

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Speaker 1: to everybody who listens every single week, specifically everybody who

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Speaker 1: listens every single Monday when episodes get released, I know

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Speaker 1: who you guys are because I see those come I

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Speaker 1: see those messages flood in. So before I look back

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Speaker 1: on these fun interviews I've been able to do this year,

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Speaker 1: which I would love to do more coming in twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty five. That's always my goal with this podcast is

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Speaker 1: to grow it and growed and grow it. And there's

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Speaker 1: this podcast. I think at the end of this I'll

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Speaker 1: give my bucket list interviews, not just the twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: Enough of that, let's get into the top five interviews

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Speaker 1: number five, I really enjoyed The First Omen. I think

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Speaker 1: I haven't done an interview like this before, so I'm

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Speaker 3: Am I selling your wife?

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Speaker 4: It's you know, Neil is on set every single day,

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Speaker 1: You were mentioning some of the hard things that, you know, Neil,

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Speaker 1: I think it's also sometimes in just the Omen franchise,

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Speaker 1: also the authoritative figures in the movie.

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Speaker 1: Part of this, of Margaret rebelling against the authority there.

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Speaker 1: Once you see that read come true and you can

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Speaker 1: tell somebody, hey, I have a movie out in theaters

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Speaker 1: right now, you can go watch it. They were super

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Speaker 1: proud of it. I really enjoyed this movie because I

445
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Speaker 1: didn't have a whole lot of expectations going into it.

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Speaker 1: I also love me a good thriller where you're like

447
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Speaker 1: yelling at the screen like no, why would you do that?

448
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Speaker 1: So at number four, I have Carrie in Summer Blessa

449
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Speaker 1: talking about Amber Aller. I feel like a lot of

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Speaker 1: being a filmmaker, being an artist is observing the world

451
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Speaker 1: around you. I feel like that's really the thing that

452
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Speaker 1: defines like somebody who's actually going to follow through with

453
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Speaker 1: it is you observe it, also write it down and

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Speaker 1: then execute it. Like you've been talking about the filmmaking process,

455
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Speaker 1: just like the inspiration of this movie, it came from

456
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Speaker 1: seeing the Ambreller and thinking, WHOA that should be a movie?

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Speaker 1: Are you constantly observing things and writing things down? Because

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Speaker 1: the other day, like I was on a flight and

459
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Speaker 1: I sat down on the exit road and they're like, hey,

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Speaker 1: if you know something to do that whole thing of

461
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Speaker 1: something goes wrong, like are you willing to help? And

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Speaker 1: I just you know, willing to say, ah, yeah, thinking

463
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Speaker 1: in that moment of like what if I actually had

464
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Speaker 1: something actually went down and I was put in that

465
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Speaker 1: situation of I actually have to do something now, and

466
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Speaker 1: I was like, hey, that could be something. Are you

467
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Speaker 1: constantly observing things like that?

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Speaker 2: I made it.

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Speaker 9: I definitely, Yeah, truth does a lot more interesting than fiction.

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Speaker 9: Just reading the news, I mean I have a whole

471
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Speaker 9: little bookleted news art culset are just freezing for me personally.

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Speaker 9: I like things that should possibly happen and that are real.

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Speaker 10: How about you?

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Speaker 11: Oh, I mean I feel like I tend to go

475
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Speaker 11: more in the fantasy or the romance brow and calm

476
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Speaker 11: world burns less. I mean, it's still human nature, it's

477
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Speaker 11: still based on you know, relationships, but maybe the less

478
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Speaker 11: less news driven or reality, or I like.

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Speaker 9: Observing it seeing things I'm like, oh that might have

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Speaker 9: to be all filmed. But like what you're talking about

481
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Speaker 9: is like it's like some type of little scene there

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Speaker 9: or set up.

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Speaker 2: You know, you just gotta write it.

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Speaker 12: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: The next step as a filmmaker, what would be my

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Speaker 1: next on that idea? Is it writing a title, writing

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Speaker 1: a synopsis? What is that when you sit down to

488
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Speaker 1: like you just have this idea? What is that next

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Speaker 1: step to flesh out a script?

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Speaker 9: You just need to put it in the paper? Like everything.

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Speaker 9: I mean that that's the hardest thing is just getting

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Speaker 9: and even if you don't have the entire film down,

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Speaker 9: or you just might have a scene, write the scene,

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Speaker 9: you know, if you have a first act, right, the

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Speaker 9: first act, I just think and it's still difficult to

496
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Speaker 9: like sit down, you know, a blank piece of paper.

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Speaker 9: It can be so overwhelming and so but it's just

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Speaker 9: it's just couldn't in the work.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, no one will make a film of just an idea.

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Speaker 11: So you need to have eventually it flushed out into

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Speaker 11: a full script and then you can share it and

502
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Speaker 11: have people give you insight and hopefully up people who

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Speaker 11: are like, yeah, I see the vision too, let's go

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Speaker 11: think it.

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Speaker 1: That leaves me to my final two questions. We're sitting

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Speaker 1: here the night before the premiere here in Nashville. Are

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Speaker 1: you feeling the overwhelming joy of it finally being out

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Speaker 1: at for ten years? Or are you feeling nervous about

509
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Speaker 1: people are going to react to it this week because

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Speaker 1: I know, as somebody who deals with reading the comments,

511
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Speaker 1: reading getting all the messages, I don't see the ones

512
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Speaker 1: they say, hey, and that was a great episode you did,

513
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Speaker 1: that was a great interview. I see the ones they

514
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Speaker 1: say this sucks, like why did you put this hell?

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Speaker 1: Like I used to feel terrible.

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Speaker 9: The positive things and then something Dong says, you suck, Yeah,

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Speaker 9: and you just focus.

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Speaker 13: We feel it so hard. Yeah, it's definitely him the nature.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think that.

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Speaker 9: Would be the old wise man that I am that

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Speaker 9: I don't read comments. I read comments and before I

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Speaker 9: remember specifically a long time ago, and like the comments

523
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Speaker 9: made me feel like I was like the graded I

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Speaker 9: was Spielberg. You know, these people are like this so bazy.

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Speaker 9: I don't ever read comments.

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Speaker 13: You take it with the great to take it with

527
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Speaker 13: a grain of salt.

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Speaker 9: Like I love what we do, and I love this

529
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Speaker 9: path that we've chosen his career, but I just love

530
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Speaker 9: so many other things in life that bring me joy

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Speaker 9: that no one's going to take us down over some

532
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Speaker 9: comments that you're not doing.

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Speaker 11: You know, yeah, you're not going to make everybody happy

534
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Speaker 11: with every film. Yeah, you know, there's films that we

535
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Speaker 11: love that changed our lives that some people don't like.

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Speaker 11: At the end of the day, that's we just want

537
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Speaker 11: to make something that's entertaining, to make it people thinking and.

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Speaker 9: Talking, and we're like risk takers and gamblers. I'd rather

539
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Speaker 9: you absolutely hate my film and talk about it and

540
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Speaker 9: be so passionate about your disdain instead of just making

541
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Speaker 9: something that they're like, uh, it's okay, like it was

542
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Speaker 9: like forgettable. But yeah, we're we're excited to just get

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Speaker 9: it out there and hear what people think and their response.

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Speaker 9: And we're very confident in the film too. We think

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Speaker 9: it's a great film. The feedback's been really good, and

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Speaker 9: I think.

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Speaker 13: People are really going to enjoy seeing Hayden and Tyler

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Speaker 13: and yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah it's Tyler like I've really never seen it, Like

550
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Speaker 1: I've been watching one Avid Elementary and it's like, oh,

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Speaker 1: this is a totally different side of it.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, he's a killer, Like he's just so locked in.

554
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Speaker 9: It's so good, so insightful. And Haten too, like they

555
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Speaker 9: were just like we're the perfect people at the right

556
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Speaker 9: time to have this, you know.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, they both brought such humanity to the rules and

558
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Speaker 13: personality and it was really really fun to work with

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Speaker 13: them and see what you know, their perspectives on their

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Speaker 13: characters and they they s brought so much.

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Speaker 1: And my final question is why Louisville, Kentucky. I'll give

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Speaker 1: you why I think you picked it. After watching the movie,

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Speaker 1: I feel like that city which I've been to you,

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Speaker 1: I love Louisville. It makes it feel so much more real,

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Speaker 1: like you could happen to anybody. If you said this

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Speaker 1: movie in La it would feel like, oh, it's just

567
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Speaker 1: another movie in LA where crazy things happen all the time,

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Speaker 1: or in New York. But for me, like just seeing them,

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Speaker 1: like at the beginning, they just had a random.

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Speaker 2: Park and that's where it happens.

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Speaker 1: Is that the reason why it's in Louisville or is

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Speaker 1: it just I just want to say, Litville, Kentucky is awesome,

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Speaker 1: great people. Our crew was like we missed those those people.

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Speaker 1: They were so awesome and just like genuine down.

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Speaker 9: The earth and they kind of knew our story, like

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Speaker 9: that we've been hustling for ten years, that we were

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Speaker 9: gonna make it that we were no one was gonna

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Speaker 9: let us, and they just like got behind us like

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Speaker 9: family and really helped us make an amazing film.

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Speaker 11: As the producer, I will say was because of there

581
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Speaker 11: was a few different places that have great test incentives

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Speaker 11: that we were debating over. And I think exactly what

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Speaker 11: you said though, is you know, one of the strengths

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Speaker 11: of the film is that it could be anywhere except

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Speaker 11: maybe la but in general, like this happens all over

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Speaker 11: the country.

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Speaker 9: And it was originally written in Phoenix, Arizona, because Phoenix

588
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Speaker 9: is the kidnapping capital of the country.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, we wanted to make sure it didn't feel like

590
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Speaker 13: it could be anybody, yes, and.

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Speaker 9: So we just kind of tweaked it a little and

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Speaker 9: it was couldn't I couldn't imagine anywhere else now. And

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Speaker 9: I love the lushness, the beautiful degree, Like I mean,

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Speaker 9: I do want to fight a lot with the rain.

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Speaker 9: Then we had to day. We didn't shoot for a

596
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Speaker 9: whole morning because the rain that you know, it was.

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Speaker 9: There were some challenges, but it works out.

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Speaker 1: Worked out.

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Speaker 2: At number three. This guy was a delight. Paul King.

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Speaker 1: He is the director of Wonka, which came out last year.

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Speaker 1: Around this time last year, I was just walking around

602
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Speaker 1: singing there chocolate and there's chocolate. If you haven't seen

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Speaker 1: Wonk at this point, it is on Max. Timothy Challamet

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Speaker 1: is a great Wonka and Paul King is a great director.

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Speaker 2: He is also the director of the Paddington movies.

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Speaker 1: And you have Paddington three coming out next year, which

607
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Speaker 1: looks just as good as Paddington two, which is one

608
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Speaker 1: of the best family movies of all time. I need

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Speaker 1: to do a rewatch of one and two going into three.

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Speaker 1: That looks fantastic. Paul King was actually out doing press

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Speaker 1: for that movie, and he said that Wonka two is

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Speaker 1: in development. Didn't say if Timothy Chalomey is coming back,

613
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Speaker 1: but he did say he wants it to be more

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Speaker 1: like the books, which is.

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Speaker 2: Kind of what Wonka was.

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Speaker 1: And I think a lot of people who had problems

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Speaker 1: with the Willy Wonka from back in the day wanted

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Speaker 1: it to be more like the book because I think

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Speaker 1: the book is a little bit more whimsical, so maybe

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Speaker 1: he could get back to that. But he seemed like

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Speaker 1: a genuinely nice guy. He loves musicals, and I become

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Speaker 1: now an adopter of loving musicals.

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Speaker 2: So at number three, I have Paul King.

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Speaker 10: Harry Paul, I'm really good thank you. How are you?

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Speaker 2: I am great good to get to talk to you.

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Speaker 1: The original Willi Wonka is one of my top ten

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Speaker 1: favorite movies of all time, so I hold it very

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Speaker 1: precious and after seeing Wonka, I completely loved it, and

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Speaker 1: I'd have to imagine it was such a hard thing

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Speaker 1: to do. And the thing I want to start with

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Speaker 1: first is I love the way Timothy shallow May portrayed Wonka.

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Speaker 1: Did you have that vision first before he was cast?

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Speaker 2: Or was he cast and then that vision happened and

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Speaker 2: it came to life.

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Speaker 10: Well that's a really good question. Thank you.

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Speaker 14: That means a huge amount to me because the original

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Speaker 14: Willy Wonker is is right up there for me too,

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Speaker 14: and it's a daunting experience to kind of walk in

639
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Speaker 14: those footsteps. I think when I started working on the movie,

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Speaker 14: i'd been fortunate enough to meet Timothy in that kind

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Speaker 14: of year where he did call.

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Speaker 10: Me by your name, and Lady Burden knew what.

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Speaker 14: A wonderful actor he was, and I really wanted to

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Speaker 14: write something for him, and so pretty much from the

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Speaker 14: second David Haymees suggested a young Willy Wonka film to me,

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Speaker 14: I was like, well, that could be Timothy shaller Mate.

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Speaker 14: So there's obviously never a guarantee that you're going to

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Speaker 14: get the actor that you want. But in my head

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Speaker 14: I sort of went, well, him or someone like him,

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Speaker 14: I don't know who there is like him would be

651
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Speaker 14: absolutely wonderful in this world because he feels so sort

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Speaker 14: of mercurial, but he's also emotionally grounded and slightly unknowable,

653
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Speaker 14: and he has that whole sort of range. And I

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Speaker 14: felt that he could feel like a younger Willi Wonker

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Speaker 14: or you know, Geene Marder twenty years before the events

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Speaker 14: of that movie. Like it felt like there's a sort

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Speaker 14: of kinshit there somehow, but without doing an impression. And

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Speaker 14: you know, once we'd written the script and sort of

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Speaker 14: sent it to him, it's a nerve wracking moment because

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Speaker 14: you sort of go, if it's not you, I really

661
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 14: don't know who it could have been.

662
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 10: And I thank my lucky stars.

663
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 1: He said, yes, you mentioned Gen Wilderlier And I got

664
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 1: to imagine when you're you know, had this vision of

665
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 1: this movie in your head, there's all these things you

666
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 1: want to pull from the original. Was there anything that

667
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 1: you didn't get to put into this movie that you

668
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 1: wanted you from the original, either it was too expensive,

669
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 1: or it just didn't work, or it just didn't make sense.

670
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 14: There was one bit we tried to do the forward

671
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 14: role and the pop up thing, and it felt it

672
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 14: just felt a little shoehorned into the moment. It was

673
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 14: felt like kind of an Easter egg for the sake

674
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 14: of an Easter egg. And and we didn't do it

675
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 14: in the end because it felt like it was it

676
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 14: was there for fans rather than because it didn't serve

677
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 14: the story.

678
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 10: So I think.

679
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 14: But what was so funny was how much kind of

680
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 14: went in and some of it where it went in,

681
00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 14: and I'd kind of forgotten where it had come from.

682
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,480
Speaker 14: But you know, obviously I sort of imbibed the original

683
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 14: so much that it was sort of like would come

684
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 14: out and you sort of go just little bits of

685
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,720
Speaker 14: choreography and little gestures, and we always kind of were

686
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 14: aware of it on set, where you go, oh, you

687
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 14: could do the cane thing, and you could do the

688
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 14: step thing, and and this is the coin and the

689
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 14: storm draining, and I think some of the kind of

690
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 14: building blocks. It was kind of really looking at that

691
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 14: movie and the original book and go, here's the kind

692
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 14: of this is like the playground.

693
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 10: You're in, now, go play with the toys.

694
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 1: I think my favorite shot out of the entire movie,

695
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 1: Like I'm just a stickler for cinematography, and when I

696
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 1: see a great shot, I just make a note of it.

697
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 1: The one shot I made a note of it's whenever

698
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 1: there's that great silverware to Timothy Shell. May you really

699
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 1: just see like the shadows on his face and the

700
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 1: outline of the hair, how much time goes into just

701
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 1: getting there one shot?

702
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 14: Probably too much for that shot that was. I mean,

703
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 14: I love that shot so much, but it was it

704
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 14: was it was actually a find on the quite near

705
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 14: like on the day, I think that we had the

706
00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 14: shot of him from behind with the behind the was

707
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 14: like when he opens the door and walks out, and

708
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 14: that was going to be our hero shot. And we

709
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 14: were setting it and went, oh, there's a lovely there's

710
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 14: a found that there was this lovely profile and chunking

711
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:14,719
Speaker 14: Chung like incredible cinematographer. We then went, this is a

712
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 14: lovely angle. But we kind of wanted to get both

713
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 14: and we were sort of trying to get it and

714
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 14: then we were Okay, we're gonna have to stop everything

715
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 14: and get this silhouette perfect because it could be the

716
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 14: shots of the movie. And I do remember we filmed

717
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 14: it and it was like we sortaly didn't whe where

718
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 14: he goes, here we go Mama, and I was like,

719
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 14: that's definitely how the Treasure's going to start. And then

720
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 14: there it is.

721
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 1: The thing about this movie is that it feels oddly

722
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 1: nostalgic for me here and I was born in the nineties,

723
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 1: so even the original came out was before my time.

724
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 2: But there are so many different generations of Willie Wanka fan.

725
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 1: Do you have the people who discovered it maybe in

726
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 1: the two thousands, the people who love the original, and

727
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 1: then it's a family movie at the same time, How

728
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 1: do you want that line of making a movie that's

729
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 1: appealing to kids but also appealing to the adults who

730
00:33:58,200 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 1: are just lifelong fans.

731
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 14: Yeah, it's it's It's funny how that it is interesting,

732
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 14: because it's definitely I think most kind of like known

733
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 14: characters and known through one iteration, you know, like you

734
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:13,439
Speaker 14: sort of go iron Man, say you go. Most people

735
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 14: will have come to it through the Robert Downey junior

736
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:17,399
Speaker 14: iron Man, you know.

737
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 10: Or you sort of gore.

738
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:19,919
Speaker 14: There will be some comic book fans, but you sort

739
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 14: of go, there's one kind of hero iteration. Willi Wanka

740
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:24,880
Speaker 14: really isn't like that, as you say, because there's the book,

741
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:26,920
Speaker 14: which has an army of fans around the world, one

742
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:28,800
Speaker 14: of the best selling childrens book of all time. You

743
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:33,760
Speaker 14: got two absolutely beloved movies, and it's it's really tricky

744
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 14: to kind of to to sort of walk that line.

745
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 14: And I guess what I realized early on was you

746
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 14: sort of have to pick your hero references. And for me,

747
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 14: it was like the book first and foremost, because that's

748
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 14: the kind of the mothership, and I didn't want to

749
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 14: do anything that wouldn't kind of sit comfortably with that.

750
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 14: And then the the g Model movies. So in my DNA,

751
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:56,320
Speaker 14: I mean, I was born in the seventies, but I

752
00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,360
Speaker 14: really grew up with that movie as my Willy Wonka.

753
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:02,359
Speaker 14: So and there were so many iconic choices they made

754
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 14: that I kind of wanted to honor in terms of

755
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 14: like balancing kids and grown ups. I sort of, for me,

756
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:13,360
Speaker 14: my favorite family movies and my favorite movies probably in general,

757
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,879
Speaker 14: movies that can can appeal to everyone. And I never

758
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 14: really try and go, here's a bit for the kids,

759
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:20,319
Speaker 14: and here's a bit for the grown ups. Just try

760
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 14: and make something that's this exciting and fun for everyone.

761
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:27,880
Speaker 14: You know. It's kind of I think my co writers

762
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 14: Simon and I we're trying to make each other laugh

763
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 14: and find things that we find emotional or funny or

764
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 14: silly or eccentric or you know, touching, and if it works,

765
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 14: pray that there are enough people out there with our

766
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:41,880
Speaker 14: sense of humor and sentiment.

767
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 1: Well, I think it's such a great job and appealing

768
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:47,799
Speaker 1: to everybody. The thing I was surprised about is a

769
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 1: lot of people somehow did it realize they were going

770
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 1: into a musical. Well, it's such a big part of

771
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 1: the first one, it's such a big part of the

772
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 1: second one. The music is like the foundation of the movie,

773
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 1: Like it's a musical. Were you surprised just about that

774
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 1: and people saying, ah, I had no idea as a musical, Yeah, well,

775
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 1: I think it was.

776
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 10: It's tricky because it's sort of.

777
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 14: A lot of the promotional materials didn't really have any

778
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:11,320
Speaker 14: singing in them, or that you know, there would be

779
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 14: a shot. But it's a and I know there's a

780
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:17,799
Speaker 14: sort of larger conversation about how musicals are sold, which

781
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,359
Speaker 14: is is a really tricky thing to do because.

782
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,400
Speaker 1: It's almost like a bad word to say it's a musical,

783
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 1: like somebody's not gonna go watch it.

784
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 2: That's what it feels like to me.

785
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 14: I think I think that is true, and I think

786
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 14: some some people. The thing is some people will immediately

787
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 14: just go, I don't like a musical, and and that's

788
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 14: the end of their conversation. But I always kind of go, really,

789
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:37,320
Speaker 14: when I meet somebody says they don't like musicals, and

790
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:38,759
Speaker 14: you know, you don't like singing in.

791
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,719
Speaker 10: The rain, and they I like seeing the rain. What

792
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,279
Speaker 10: about sounding music? Well, obviously sound of music's good.

793
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 14: Well you don't like you like all of those? Yeah, yeah,

794
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:54,840
Speaker 14: I think it's I think it's more that so yeah, hopefully, hopefully.

795
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:57,360
Speaker 14: And I think what's difficult with a musical with original

796
00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 14: songs like we have is that you sort of go

797
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:02,839
Speaker 14: They're hard to get into promotional materials because people don't

798
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 14: know them, and you sort of go, it's hard to

799
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:07,440
Speaker 14: kind of so it was easier for the to lean

800
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 14: on something like pure imagination, where you go, people know

801
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 14: that one, they know the young Plumpus tune, and it's

802
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:15,720
Speaker 14: kind of a there's a sort of recognition, but hopefully

803
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 14: people have enjoyed the songs when they got some eventually.

804
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 2: I mean I had a song stick in my head.

805
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 2: I was leaving the theater singing scrub scrub.

806
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 10: Yeah, me too.

807
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 1: So you've succeeded at telling which I love that this

808
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:30,719
Speaker 1: was a companion piece and not a remake, not a sequel.

809
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 1: You've succeeded at the young Willie Wanger story. I feel

810
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:37,760
Speaker 1: like there's another story there because you really showed Wanco

811
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:39,719
Speaker 1: and he was like bright eyed and bushy tail before

812
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 1: he had any level of cynicism which we saw in

813
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,319
Speaker 1: the nineteen seventy one version. Do you think there's a

814
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 1: story there where he kind of starts to turn his

815
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 1: perspective a little bit, becomes a little bit more jaded.

816
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 14: Yes, I do, Yes, I think there's absolutely a story there.

817
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 14: I think it's I think it's a real challenge with

818
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 14: the story where you feel he becomes more cynical and

819
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 14: jaded to sort of find an ending that is satisfactory.

820
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:05,240
Speaker 14: And I think one of the things that liberated us

821
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 14: for this movie was to go, We're not going to

822
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 14: try and take him all the way to the chocolate

823
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:11,439
Speaker 14: factory because he seems quite a sort of damaged soul

824
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 14: at the beginning of the Chocolate Bat. You know, he's

825
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:15,320
Speaker 14: rettly reclusive and needs to retreat it behind the walls.

826
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:18,279
Speaker 14: So I think there could absolutely be other Willing Won

827
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:21,439
Speaker 14: stories that could work, and I would love to find one.

828
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:22,479
Speaker 10: But they're hard.

829
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:24,760
Speaker 14: They're hard to find, and in a way, the closer

830
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 14: you get to the beginning of Charlie that the harder

831
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 14: it gets, you know, to find a movie that works

832
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:30,720
Speaker 14: as a story.

833
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 10: But we'll certainly give it a go.

834
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 2: Well, I'm in a prayer, my tickets already. I'm already

835
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 2: in for it.

836
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 10: If you make it great, thank you.

837
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 2: I appreciate it. Paul's great. Good to talk to you,

838
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 2: good to toy to you too, Thanks so much.

839
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 1: And number two, I have the director of the original

840
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:48,880
Speaker 1: Twister Yondabond, and I talked to him actually before Twisters

841
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:51,279
Speaker 1: came out, which I didn't really feel the need to

842
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:52,919
Speaker 1: ask him about it, like, hey, how do you feel

843
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 1: that they're rebooting the franchise with a non Dirigg sequel.

844
00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 1: I would have to imagine, especially after talking to him

845
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 1: in this interview, that he thinks it's probably a movie

846
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 1: that didn't need to be made.

847
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:05,920
Speaker 2: I love one. I've seen it so many times.

848
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 1: We talk about that, and I love two, so I

849
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 1: didn't want to have those two opinions conflict with me.

850
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 1: I think it was blown away by how many times

851
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 1: I've seen this movie. And I think you could tell

852
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 1: that I was a genuine fan because he really got

853
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:22,800
Speaker 1: into talking to me about all my dumb questions about Twisters.

854
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 1: So at number two, I have yondemont. Hey, it is

855
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:27,360
Speaker 1: Mike from a movie Mike's Moet Podcast.

856
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 8: How are you?

857
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:29,720
Speaker 2: I am great.

858
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 1: I just want to say that Twister is one of

859
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:33,840
Speaker 1: my favorite movies of all time. It is the only

860
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:37,360
Speaker 1: film out of any movie that I've seen over fifty times.

861
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:38,839
Speaker 2: I make a point to read Wow.

862
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 1: Since I was a kid, I watched this movie and

863
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:42,759
Speaker 1: the reason I have such a bond with it is

864
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 1: I grew up in a trailer park and I was

865
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 1: terrified of tornadoes and by watching Twister, because if a

866
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:50,920
Speaker 1: tornado came through the trailer park, we were done for.

867
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 1: So I was always freaked out watching the news. I

868
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:55,840
Speaker 1: just had all this anxiety and I would watch Twister

869
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 1: because it almost helped me deal with that anxiety. If

870
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 1: I can literally watch the worst possible scenario of what

871
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:03,200
Speaker 1: could happen.

872
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 2: It kind of helped me work through that. So that

873
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:07,280
Speaker 2: is why I've seen it so many times.

874
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:10,319
Speaker 15: Oh wow, wow, wow, that's amazing. I mean, I mean

875
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 15: I never heard somebody seeing it for fifty times, but

876
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:15,720
Speaker 15: that must.

877
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 6: Be a record bike that us be. The funny thing

878
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 6: is that it is still a very watchable movie. They

879
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 6: still feels like it could happen today, and the way

880
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:28,879
Speaker 6: it is filmed, the excitement and the cast they all

881
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:32,240
Speaker 6: like still today's people. They're not like from a different period,

882
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 6: even though thirty years ago. I think that's why it's

883
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 6: so relatable. It's very relatable this movie. I mean, everybody

884
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 6: can see themselves more or less being a storm chaser,

885
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 6: being want to be that everybody likes danger and to

886
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:49,360
Speaker 6: some degree, and that both wouldn't want to go that

887
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:52,840
Speaker 6: far bad people who are really willing to go on

888
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:57,359
Speaker 6: cars and drive towards that's pretty insane situation. But they

889
00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 6: exist and they are they are They love it, but

890
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 6: also they love the science line it too.

891
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 8: I was fine someone that match a lot of them.

892
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 8: That is not only the fact.

893
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:11,399
Speaker 6: It's not only the adrenaline that that it creates, it's

894
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 6: also really like we really want to see and photograph

895
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 6: it that Joe to people, and that was really pretty

896
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 6: surprising to.

897
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 8: To really to really see that happen. It's really good.

898
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 1: And I think the other thing is it's not just

899
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 1: a movie about people chasing tornadoes. It's also a story

900
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:30,399
Speaker 1: of all these people who are just friends, but also

901
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 1: the story of Bill and Joe of going there to

902
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 1: get the paper signed. That's the whole reason he shows

903
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:36,799
Speaker 1: up back there, and you have that threat throughout the

904
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 1: entire movie, of the tension between them. I think it's

905
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 1: something I probably didn't appreciate as a kid, but as

906
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 1: an adult I understood it and how that was really

907
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 1: that was the story. You could almost make a movie

908
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 1: where you take away the twisters and it's just Bill

909
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 1: and Joe.

910
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 6: You could make a movie like that. That wouldn't be

911
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:57,840
Speaker 6: as exciting, I think. But no, but of course that

912
00:41:57,960 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 6: is that is true.

913
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:01,760
Speaker 15: Of course that's all that whole idea of that team

914
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:04,760
Speaker 15: and how they get along and the relationship to Bill

915
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:07,880
Speaker 15: and and and and and talent that was like, that

916
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 15: was that was the story, That was the plot, and

917
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 15: and how that kind of they started in intermingle more

918
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 15: and more and more and and and because seeing that happen,

919
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 15: that's also because they got closer again, of course, and

920
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:25,279
Speaker 15: youvolve and it wasn't in danger and other people have

921
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 15: to come and help you.

922
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 8: It is it's changed relationships and shave bond.

923
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 1: So when it comes to just the camaraderie that you

924
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 1: feel from the cast, I think the best example of

925
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 1: that is the breakfast scene where everybody's just they're having

926
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:41,799
Speaker 1: literally what looks like the best meal ever, and you

927
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 1: just feel that bond between everybody. Everybody gets their moment

928
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 1: to shine, everybody's getting in their jokes. What was it

929
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 1: like filming that scene? Was it a much larger scene

930
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 1: that was cut down to what we saw in the

931
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 1: movie or was it all on the page?

932
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:56,840
Speaker 8: And it was most of it was on the page.

933
00:42:56,920 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 6: And also quite a bit was improvised because I told them,

934
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:02,840
Speaker 6: but I said, this is okay. If you step on

935
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 6: somebody's line, if you want to say, just jump in

936
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 6: and then you can come back to that later.

937
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:11,319
Speaker 8: And I let that all happen. And when you have

938
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:13,400
Speaker 8: a bunch of people that get along really.

939
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 6: Well, they are fine with that. They wouldn't get mad

940
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 6: as you just tap on somebody's line. They would just

941
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 6: come back later, and so I really wanted that to happen.

942
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 6: And don't be afraid it's a fun scene. It has

943
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:27,279
Speaker 6: to be a fun scene. Well, you guys having a

944
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:29,759
Speaker 6: great time, you having a really great meal after being

945
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 6: in the field, not eating anything or just cookies whatever what.

946
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:35,399
Speaker 8: You have in the truck.

947
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:38,719
Speaker 6: But this is like a really a scene in which

948
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 6: showcase of friendship and the friendship in a way that

949
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 6: everybody accepts the sort of witnesses and strengths and it

950
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:50,439
Speaker 6: becomes like one one group. The whole scene is based

951
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 6: but the group and nothing else. And I agree, I

952
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:57,840
Speaker 6: love that scene. I really totally, really really excites me.

953
00:43:58,160 --> 00:43:59,799
Speaker 6: Still it's still fun to us.

954
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:02,720
Speaker 1: Was that your philosophy throughout the other parts of making

955
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 1: the movie, aside from that of letting people improvise? Since

956
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 1: you do have these just huge personality Bill Pax and

957
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:12,400
Speaker 1: Philipinore Hoffman and they're doing these scenes together, were you

958
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:14,719
Speaker 1: okay with them just throwing different lines in there that

959
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 1: were in the script.

960
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, but only only if they still would would move

961
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:20,400
Speaker 6: the movie forward.

962
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 15: I mean sometimes it came up with sentences or I

963
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 15: mean never long sentences, so that that actually would help

964
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:30,279
Speaker 15: to see and then I definitely let them do it.

965
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 6: I mean that the screenplay is like based a little

966
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:38,400
Speaker 6: bit how storm Chases talk. You know, we we listened

967
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 6: to them many times and it met them, and so

968
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:43,920
Speaker 6: it has had to resemble that.

969
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 8: So and does people stalk, no to stop?

970
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 10: Basically all of them they all talk at once.

971
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 6: And and then and you pick up something that you

972
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 6: pick up something him or her.

973
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 8: So it is it is. It is a little bit

974
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:59,279
Speaker 8: like the same way as they would would act in

975
00:44:59,320 --> 00:44:59,759
Speaker 8: real life.

976
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:02,359
Speaker 6: And and Bill, if they would have if this would

977
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 6: be all will storm Chases, they wouldn't talk a much different.

978
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 1: Being that I have seen the movie over fifty times.

979
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 1: I know every single scene down to the every single line.

980
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:13,399
Speaker 1: And for me, there was nothing, there's nothing I would

981
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:15,320
Speaker 1: change about the movie. I think it is a perfect film.

982
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:17,839
Speaker 1: But for you, now, almost thirty years since it's been out,

983
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:19,319
Speaker 1: how often do you rewatch it?

984
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 2: And is there anything you would change?

985
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:24,400
Speaker 15: It's a question that I've been asked many times. Is

986
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:28,799
Speaker 15: going to be director Scott? I was asking directors to

987
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:32,399
Speaker 15: what do you mean? Well, I'm really big director makes directors.

988
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:35,319
Speaker 15: Now everything is in a movie. This is my movie.

989
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 15: I don't have anything. I don't want to put any

990
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 15: deleted scenes in. We work really hard to make this

991
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:43,400
Speaker 15: and this works perfect. Why would you, as seen or

992
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:47,359
Speaker 15: take things out that either already work and change it

993
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 15: with something else.

994
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:51,400
Speaker 8: I mean, there was at one point there's some studious

995
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 8: for worried.

996
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:57,400
Speaker 15: About about that the audience would not understand the idea

997
00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:00,840
Speaker 15: of getting those little balls in the air, the little.

998
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 8: Power, and they had to be explained except they see it.

999
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:05,880
Speaker 8: They don't have to. You don't have to explain. They

1000
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 8: can't see god damn happening.

1001
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 6: So why would you really really really haven't seen and

1002
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 6: people explaining that? And I had to film it, but

1003
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 6: then also most of it from back out again because

1004
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:20,279
Speaker 6: it was completely redundant, and because the whole thing is

1005
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 6: a little bit It is not only a movie.

1006
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 8: Told by sentences, by by dialogue. It's about the whole

1007
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 8: physical reaction to of all the people towards what they

1008
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 8: what they encounter. It's there to get inness. It's there.

1009
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 6: That being upset or angry at disorder and then getting

1010
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 6: changing again. That was that was my wholecal I didn't

1011
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 6: want any anything that looked like a real movie, like

1012
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 6: a regular movie, as you'd see not a real movie

1013
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 6: like a regular by people sit down and talk. It's

1014
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 6: like even that. That's why they scene on the tape

1015
00:46:57,120 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 6: because if they sit around the table, but he said

1016
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 6: up and I was sent up and he grasps over

1017
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:01,959
Speaker 6: the table.

1018
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:04,719
Speaker 8: Give me some of that. So they're almost doing things

1019
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:08,240
Speaker 8: while they're having this discussion. Just funny discussion. And that's

1020
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 8: I love that. I think it's so good.

1021
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 2: So there's nothing you would change.

1022
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 1: But what was the most physically or not physically, but

1023
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 1: just the most the hardest scene to just tackle that

1024
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 1: had maybe a lot of production elements to it, or

1025
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 1: it were just so time consuming. You're like, that almost

1026
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:25,399
Speaker 1: killed us, but we got it in there.

1027
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 8: Actually just quite a few of those things.

1028
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:30,839
Speaker 2: Because there was a lot of practical effects too.

1029
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:33,719
Speaker 6: It was at the special effects like for instance, like

1030
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 6: when the combiness fall from the air and the tractors

1031
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 6: fell from the air to really catch a timing lid

1032
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 6: best a helicopter really flying close over the cars and

1033
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 6: this Helen and Build driving the car and they had

1034
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 6: to maneuver that way around. I mean the thing would

1035
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:56,440
Speaker 6: fall down and it could fall down there and they

1036
00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:58,719
Speaker 6: quickly would have to react and response to that. So

1037
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:02,040
Speaker 6: I was filmed them at the same time as that

1038
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:04,640
Speaker 6: as when it as when it happened, so that I

1039
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:05,239
Speaker 6: would have the.

1040
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 8: Responses to the real action in front of them.

1041
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:11,799
Speaker 15: And of course we I had such good relationship and

1042
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 15: with special effects, I knew it was gonna be okay,

1043
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 15: especially the pilot and I communicate with them, but I

1044
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:19,879
Speaker 15: was sat in the car.

1045
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:21,400
Speaker 8: With them too, by the way, but it's happened.

1046
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 15: So you sit in the car and and you measure

1047
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 15: and now, and then I knew how many seconds it

1048
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 15: would take to hit the ground, and then I let so.

1049
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:32,760
Speaker 15: And when Bill heard me say now, they knew something

1050
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:34,719
Speaker 15: was going to happen, but not exactly what YE had.

1051
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:38,279
Speaker 15: And that boom that the combined a filet and those

1052
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 15: things I was really cumbersome to set up and really

1053
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 15: have with so many moving parts, and that was tough,

1054
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:48,840
Speaker 15: and I was so happy that that was done. Ultimately, Yeah, I.

1055
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 2: Really appreciate the time.

1056
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 1: I'm now going to go watch it for a fifty

1057
00:48:52,080 --> 00:49:00,239
Speaker 1: first time, so thanks for talking to me. Okay, Out

1058
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 1: School one of my favorite movies of all time, and

1059
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:05,680
Speaker 1: Nanny the other year that probably would have made it

1060
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 1: in at number one.

1061
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:09,319
Speaker 2: Because he's somebody that I just never thought I would

1062
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:09,600
Speaker 2: talk to.

1063
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:14,799
Speaker 1: But taking the top spot in my top five interviews

1064
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:18,959
Speaker 1: of twenty twenty four, I have Robert England and Heather

1065
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:24,800
Speaker 1: Langenkamp aka Freddy Krueger and Nancy from the original Nightmare

1066
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:27,680
Speaker 1: on Elm Street. They were out talking about the fortieth

1067
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 1: anniversary of this movie. I think the thing that stuck

1068
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:34,720
Speaker 1: out to me going into this interview as they thought

1069
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:39,000
Speaker 1: that nobody would care that they would be out promoting,

1070
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:41,839
Speaker 1: is that they thought that nobody would care about this,

1071
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:45,440
Speaker 1: that it'd be the fortieth anniversary, they'd agree to do

1072
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:49,359
Speaker 1: some interviews, and they were so surprised at the overwhelming

1073
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 1: response that they got of how many people like me

1074
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 1: wanted to talk to them about this movie forty years later.

1075
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:59,239
Speaker 1: And like I was talking about earlier, whether Kasha Stevenson

1076
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:00,920
Speaker 1: and Nel Tiger free health.

1077
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:01,960
Speaker 2: They have a great friendship.

1078
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:05,359
Speaker 1: You can tell by talking to Robert and Heather that

1079
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 1: they have remained friends over the years and still after

1080
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:13,040
Speaker 1: decades about talking about this movie, like how many times

1081
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 1: can you be asked about the bathtub scene and about

1082
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:20,800
Speaker 1: Freddie that they still enjoy getting together and talking about

1083
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 1: this movie and if ken year old me knew that

1084
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 1: someday he would be talking to Freddy Krueger. He would

1085
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 1: run away in terror. But at number one, I have

1086
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:33,440
Speaker 1: Robert England and Heather Langenkamp as my number one interview.

1087
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:36,880
Speaker 1: So I want to do a buy the numbers interview.

1088
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:38,920
Speaker 1: We're gonna see how many number of related questions we're

1089
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 1: here to get in here, starting off with forty. It's

1090
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 1: been forty years since the movie came out. I want

1091
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:46,320
Speaker 1: to know after the movie came out, as a result

1092
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:48,120
Speaker 1: of it, when was the first time each of you

1093
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 1: felt famous.

1094
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 12: Gosh, I felt famous, probably way after Robert, but people

1095
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:59,360
Speaker 12: continuously mispronounced my name. But when like, somebody really pronounced

1096
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:01,800
Speaker 12: my name correct act at one of the wonderful autograph

1097
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:04,360
Speaker 12: shows that I go to and there were a bunch

1098
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:06,319
Speaker 12: of people there in the audience, I kind of felt

1099
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:08,440
Speaker 12: that was the first time I felt famous.

1100
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 16: I was in Milan, Italy to receive an award for

1101
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:16,360
Speaker 16: Best Supporting Actor or Ensemble I can't remember which, for

1102
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:20,560
Speaker 16: a TV series I was in. And we pulled up

1103
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:25,520
Speaker 16: and I was in a rented tuxedo and I got

1104
00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:30,600
Speaker 16: out and the audience, the people in the piazza the

1105
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:34,920
Speaker 16: plaza in front of the scholar started chanting Freddie, Freddie,

1106
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:35,560
Speaker 16: and they.

1107
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:38,640
Speaker 17: Literally picked me up and passed, you know.

1108
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:42,799
Speaker 16: And that's when I knew Freddie was international and that

1109
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:45,600
Speaker 16: Freddie had taken off. And I was just beginning to

1110
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:50,400
Speaker 16: enjoy fame from the TV series, which was science fiction.

1111
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 17: But it's that moment in time when audience has put

1112
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:56,920
Speaker 17: your name to your face. That's true fame, you know.

1113
00:51:57,040 --> 00:52:00,279
Speaker 16: And for me, it was a combination of that, and

1114
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:03,439
Speaker 16: I became an international actor overnight, and.

1115
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:04,479
Speaker 17: That's just a great gift.

1116
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:06,399
Speaker 16: They never teach you that in school or what that's

1117
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 16: going to be like, but it's just this great adventure

1118
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:12,400
Speaker 16: that becomes like a parallel to your career in Hollywood.

1119
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:14,320
Speaker 2: The next number is thirteen.

1120
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 1: That's the number of times Freddy says bitch throughout the

1121
00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:21,200
Speaker 1: entire franchise. I heard Jalil White recently, who played Erkele,

1122
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:25,280
Speaker 1: saying that doing that voice has damaged his vocal cords.

1123
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:26,480
Speaker 2: It's shredded because of that.

1124
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:30,720
Speaker 1: For you, doing the Freddie voice over those movies hasn't

1125
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:31,920
Speaker 1: messed with your real voice.

1126
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:35,440
Speaker 17: Well, here's the thing. When I do the movies, I

1127
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:37,080
Speaker 17: might only have one line a day.

1128
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:41,440
Speaker 16: You know, when I do these junkets like I'm doing

1129
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:45,240
Speaker 16: here with you, or when I do morning radio shows

1130
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:47,719
Speaker 16: and things like that, they want me to talk like

1131
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:50,439
Speaker 16: Freddy a lot. And if I'm doing a lot of those,

1132
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:54,720
Speaker 16: I can heard my voice. But playing Freddy, I probably

1133
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:56,839
Speaker 16: only have one or two lines a day, if any,

1134
00:52:57,040 --> 00:52:58,759
Speaker 16: because Freddy doesn't talk that much.

1135
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 17: So it never bought rcle. He can't stop chatting.

1136
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:04,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, talking about the time.

1137
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:07,000
Speaker 1: That's the whole episode of the whole series. The next

1138
00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:09,880
Speaker 1: number is thirty two. The entire movie was filmed in

1139
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:13,000
Speaker 1: thirty two days. Heather, what was your favorite day on set?

1140
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:13,359
Speaker 14: Oh?

1141
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:15,760
Speaker 12: Gosh, Probably the days I didn't have a big makeup

1142
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:18,480
Speaker 12: I mean a big stunt or something. I know, the

1143
00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:22,080
Speaker 12: day with Johnny when we're walking across the bridge in Venice,

1144
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:26,000
Speaker 12: or the day with Amanda where we're at the party

1145
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:29,680
Speaker 12: and where you know, first talking about Freddy. Those days

1146
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:32,880
Speaker 12: were really luxurious because there wasn't a lot of tension

1147
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:34,960
Speaker 12: acting and I could just hang out with everybody and

1148
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:38,200
Speaker 12: have a great time. Most other days when we did

1149
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:41,560
Speaker 12: do like the bathtub scene or chase scenes, all of

1150
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:44,239
Speaker 12: those were really you know, you don't have a lot

1151
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:45,360
Speaker 12: of time. You have to be on your mark, you

1152
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:47,640
Speaker 12: have to know exactly what you're doing. A lot more pressure,

1153
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:49,960
Speaker 12: a lot less time to hang out and just kind

1154
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:52,520
Speaker 12: of have a great time on set with my co stars.

1155
00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:56,040
Speaker 16: Any day when I'm getting the makeup off, yeah that's happy.

1156
00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:59,239
Speaker 16: But I got the makeup off one day and it

1157
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:02,040
Speaker 16: was a couple of you know, Freddie Booger's hanging from

1158
00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:06,279
Speaker 16: my ears and underneath my chin, and Heather and I

1159
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:10,799
Speaker 16: wanted to see the revolving room and this was going

1160
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:14,080
Speaker 16: to be the shot of Johnny Depp's bed exploding with

1161
00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:16,840
Speaker 16: all the blood coming out in a gusher like Old Faithful.

1162
00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:18,479
Speaker 17: And they had this.

1163
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:21,600
Speaker 16: Great revolving room and it was the same room they

1164
00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:25,520
Speaker 16: used for Amanda on the ceiling, for Tina on the ceiling,

1165
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:28,400
Speaker 16: but they had redressed it to become Johnny Depp's bedroom.

1166
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 17: And they had been working.

1167
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:32,120
Speaker 16: All night and they had it all ready to go,

1168
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 16: and Heather and I walked out to watch it, you know,

1169
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 16: and I was still wiping some of my makeup off,

1170
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:40,280
Speaker 16: and Heather was in her little pajamas, and I remember

1171
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:43,040
Speaker 16: standing out there and they spun it the wrong way,

1172
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:46,640
Speaker 16: and Wes and Jacques Heiken, our cinematographer, were inside in

1173
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 16: these Volkswagen bucket seats with the camera mounts, so they

1174
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:53,319
Speaker 16: would be upside down while the thing they erupted and

1175
00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:56,480
Speaker 16: came down so it would look using gravity to make

1176
00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:58,400
Speaker 16: it look like it exploded. That's how they did it.

1177
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 16: They got the idea from the shine. Anyway, they spun

1178
00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:03,239
Speaker 16: it the wrong way and all the blood came out

1179
00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:05,640
Speaker 16: of the windows of Johnny Depp's bedroom and out the

1180
00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:08,640
Speaker 16: door of Johnny Depp's bedroom and covered west and Jacques

1181
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:11,879
Speaker 16: Heiken and I remember standing with you and we saw

1182
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:14,520
Speaker 16: this puddle coming at us. And I looked down and

1183
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:17,840
Speaker 16: if you know anything about movie sound stages in Hollywood,

1184
00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:23,000
Speaker 16: they're all cables, electrical cables everywhere, plugged in. And I said,

1185
00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:26,239
Speaker 16: this doesn't look good of us. The two of us

1186
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:27,719
Speaker 16: ran all the way back to the Baker.

1187
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:29,160
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1188
00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:32,120
Speaker 16: Yeah, but we didn't get to But that's like, I

1189
00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:34,480
Speaker 16: really remember that. I remember that, yeah, because I was.

1190
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 16: I really thought something terrible was going to happen.

1191
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:38,440
Speaker 2: The next number is seven.

1192
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:40,840
Speaker 1: That's the total number of minutes that Freddy was on

1193
00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:45,120
Speaker 1: screen in the first movie Robert, based on your relationship.

1194
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:46,880
Speaker 2: With wesb Seven minutes in Heavens seven minutes.

1195
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:49,560
Speaker 1: Based on your relationship with Wes Craven, do you think

1196
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:52,439
Speaker 1: that was more by design because he wanted to keep

1197
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:55,440
Speaker 1: Freddy mysterious or was it more based on the budget

1198
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:55,920
Speaker 1: of the movie.

1199
00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:58,759
Speaker 17: No, I'll tell you what I think their true truth was,

1200
00:55:58,960 --> 00:55:59,880
Speaker 17: and it's because.

1201
00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:03,240
Speaker 16: I I got access to this right at the last minute.

1202
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:07,200
Speaker 16: With the final makeup tests and wardrobe tests. Both Robert

1203
00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:14,759
Speaker 16: Shay and Wes were petrified about lighting the makeup. The

1204
00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:17,720
Speaker 16: makeup look great, but they were worried about the lighting.

1205
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:21,080
Speaker 16: And what we discovered almost immediately, because I think I

1206
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:26,040
Speaker 16: had a scene with Heather pretty quickly, is that I

1207
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:29,879
Speaker 16: could not step into the kids lighting. They were lit

1208
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:35,120
Speaker 16: traditionally and attractively. If I went in there, I became

1209
00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:38,279
Speaker 16: to my makeup look too white or too pink, and

1210
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:41,840
Speaker 16: so we had to light me. And it was incumbent

1211
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:45,760
Speaker 16: upon Heather and Johnny Depp and Amanda Whist and everyone

1212
00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:49,600
Speaker 16: to step into my lighting and which was more dramatic

1213
00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:52,799
Speaker 16: and darker. And that's how they solved that. But they

1214
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:56,759
Speaker 16: were so nervous about the makeup and what it would

1215
00:56:56,800 --> 00:56:59,239
Speaker 16: look like, and they hadn't started seeing dailies yet or

1216
00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:03,880
Speaker 16: rushes yet that I think they just had minimized my

1217
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:07,560
Speaker 16: screen time because of that, and there came a probably

1218
00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:09,760
Speaker 16: came a point where they probably wish they just shot more.

1219
00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:14,200
Speaker 16: But there's nothing in Nightmare one that I shot that's

1220
00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:17,480
Speaker 16: not in the movie except maybe a little bit on

1221
00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:20,520
Speaker 16: the ceiling dragging Amanda.

1222
00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:23,600
Speaker 12: And also with Ronnie at the end in that burn scene,

1223
00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:27,160
Speaker 12: I know that. That's yeah, it's pretty short, much shorter

1224
00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:28,280
Speaker 12: than I think what was shot.

1225
00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:30,680
Speaker 16: Yeah. I think I went in there and substituted at

1226
00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:33,000
Speaker 16: the beginning, and then Tony went in to stunt my

1227
00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:35,080
Speaker 16: stunt Noble went in and did the flame stuff.

1228
00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:37,240
Speaker 17: But I know there, yeah, because I remember being in

1229
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:39,840
Speaker 17: that room. So I must have been doing something with Ronnie.

1230
00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:42,160
Speaker 16: I think I you know, I might have kissed her

1231
00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:45,240
Speaker 16: or pinned her down or whispered something in her ear

1232
00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 16: and leaned up and then I combusted, and I think

1233
00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:50,560
Speaker 16: they substituted the stunt man in then that was a

1234
00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:52,080
Speaker 16: famous fire stunt at the time.

1235
00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:55,160
Speaker 17: But yeah, that except for that though, I got all

1236
00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:57,480
Speaker 17: the screen time that was there. But you know, no

1237
00:57:57,600 --> 00:57:59,280
Speaker 17: small parts, only small actors.

1238
00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:01,840
Speaker 1: The next time is seventy nine, that is the total

1239
00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:05,360
Speaker 1: number of kills Freddy has throughout the entire franchise, out.

1240
00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:06,880
Speaker 2: Of this movie or out of any movie.

1241
00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:09,680
Speaker 1: What is each of your favorite kills that Freddy has done, Heather,

1242
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:10,720
Speaker 1: what's your favorite?

1243
00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:14,880
Speaker 12: I have to say the most unique and disgusting kill

1244
00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:18,959
Speaker 12: was when he kills brook These in Nightmare four Who's

1245
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:22,040
Speaker 12: the cockroach and she turns into the cockroach, And that

1246
00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:25,680
Speaker 12: one just is funny and disgusting and grotesque, and it's

1247
00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:27,840
Speaker 12: also one of my best friends getting killed.

1248
00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:34,160
Speaker 16: Besides, it's also very Pafka esque, which really serves the surrealism.

1249
00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:35,120
Speaker 17: And the Nightmare mayor thing.

1250
00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:35,400
Speaker 6: I think.

1251
00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:38,560
Speaker 16: I like the boy with the hearing aid that was

1252
00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:41,600
Speaker 16: brutal part in part Yeah, in part six is so

1253
00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:45,840
Speaker 16: politically incorrect. And I always like Amanda on the ceiling.

1254
00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:48,160
Speaker 16: The ceiling that's so disorienting.

1255
00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:50,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's so unexpected too, the way it starts

1256
00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:52,480
Speaker 1: the movie, like you don't see that coming.

1257
00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:56,280
Speaker 17: I remember she's the janetly sacrificial lamb. Yeah, that's why

1258
00:58:56,320 --> 00:58:59,000
Speaker 17: the lamb's in there in that corridor school corridor.

1259
00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:02,160
Speaker 1: And two thousand and three is the next number. That

1260
00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:04,720
Speaker 1: was the last Freddy movie that came out with you, Robert,

1261
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:07,520
Speaker 1: when is the actual last time that you put on

1262
00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:09,720
Speaker 1: the costume? Just have you ever just been hanging out

1263
00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:11,600
Speaker 1: in your house like I want to feel like Freddy today.

1264
00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:16,680
Speaker 16: Well, I did one appearance in Europe and one appearance

1265
00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:21,560
Speaker 16: in Chicago for the fans, and I wanted to make

1266
00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:23,480
Speaker 16: sure it was me, so I didn't wear the costume,

1267
00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:25,120
Speaker 16: just the makeup.

1268
00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:28,080
Speaker 17: And then uh so that was like you got to

1269
00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:30,040
Speaker 17: have your picture taken with Robert.

1270
00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:32,760
Speaker 16: England, the actor that played Freddy Krueger as Freddy Krueger

1271
00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:35,840
Speaker 16: as opposed to just being a Freddie impersonator. And then

1272
00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:39,760
Speaker 16: I did do My agent's favorite TV show was The Goldbergs,

1273
00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:44,440
Speaker 16: and I got a beautiful five page letter from Adam

1274
00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:47,800
Speaker 16: Goldberg telling me this true story about how he had

1275
00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:49,680
Speaker 16: to watch The Nightmare and elm Street movies next door

1276
00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:50,720
Speaker 16: in his neighbor's house.

1277
00:59:51,240 --> 00:59:54,680
Speaker 17: And I love that actress Wendy on that show.

1278
00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:58,920
Speaker 16: I've loved her since Arino nine one one, and so

1279
00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:02,120
Speaker 16: I want to work with her because she's so funny.

1280
01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:05,840
Speaker 16: And we worked it out that we wouldn't make too

1281
01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:08,480
Speaker 16: much fun of the Freddie character, we just you know,

1282
01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:11,840
Speaker 16: balance him out. So I did finally break my rule

1283
01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:15,080
Speaker 16: and take Freddy out of the series and do that show.

1284
01:00:15,120 --> 01:00:17,000
Speaker 16: But it was the right show because it was a

1285
01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:20,200
Speaker 16: celebration of the nineteen eighties. It was a celebration of

1286
01:00:20,320 --> 01:00:21,360
Speaker 16: Nightmare on Elm Street.

1287
01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:22,480
Speaker 10: It was a true.

1288
01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:26,080
Speaker 16: Story, and it was my agent's favorite TV show that

1289
01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:27,040
Speaker 16: he shared.

1290
01:00:26,720 --> 01:00:29,160
Speaker 17: With his family. He and his family would sit down

1291
01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:30,840
Speaker 17: and watch it together. So I sort of had to

1292
01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:31,479
Speaker 17: do it for him.

1293
01:00:31,880 --> 01:00:35,120
Speaker 1: And finally, ten minutes was the runtime of this interview.

1294
01:00:35,160 --> 01:00:37,440
Speaker 1: Thank you for making my childhood nightmare come true.

1295
01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:40,440
Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you so much. That's wonderful. Thank you

1296
01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:41,840
Speaker 2: lot of math in that interview.

1297
01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:45,720
Speaker 1: There I go, and that is the list, and that

1298
01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:48,200
Speaker 1: is the episode. I told you guys, I would tell

1299
01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:52,320
Speaker 1: you who is on my bucket list my dream interviews,

1300
01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:54,960
Speaker 1: not even of next year, but just of all time.

1301
01:00:55,160 --> 01:00:59,600
Speaker 1: I'll do one director and one movie star director. First,

1302
01:00:59,680 --> 01:01:02,520
Speaker 1: I think it comes down to two people, Quentin Tarantino

1303
01:01:02,640 --> 01:01:05,760
Speaker 1: and Jordan Peele. I love both of them for very

1304
01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:10,840
Speaker 1: different reasons, and overall I would go with Quentin Tarantino

1305
01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:13,640
Speaker 1: only because I believe he is on the tail end

1306
01:01:14,200 --> 01:01:16,720
Speaker 1: of his career now that he's saying that he has

1307
01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:18,800
Speaker 1: a set number of films that he's going to do.

1308
01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:22,560
Speaker 1: I believe that the next one is going to be

1309
01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:24,440
Speaker 1: his last one, even though he was gonna do that

1310
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Speaker 1: movie Critic movie, and that movie has now been scrapped.

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Speaker 1: So I don't know if you're going to come back

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Speaker 1: to that have an entirely different movie, or if still

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Speaker 1: the next movie he does will be his last movie.

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Speaker 1: But I feel like I have a limited time to

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Speaker 1: talk to Quentin Tarantino, and there'd be so many things

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Speaker 1: to get into with him, And I think the hard

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Speaker 1: thing about doing that is I.

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Speaker 2: Feel he is so particular.

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Speaker 1: And it's so easy to set him off that if

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Speaker 1: you ask him the wrong question, I feel like he

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Speaker 1: could turn on you. I saw him recently talking about

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Speaker 1: Yellowstone going off on that. He just knows what do

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Speaker 1: you like. He knows what is good, and he's not

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Speaker 1: afraid to say what is bad. And that would be

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Speaker 1: a tough one to do it. I'd have to do

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Speaker 1: a lot of homework. I had to come in just

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Speaker 1: prep solid, because he is somebody who can't really screw

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Speaker 1: around with. So I would be really intimidated, really nervous

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Speaker 1: to do that one. And I don't really get nervous

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Speaker 1: to do interviews. But that would be a really cool

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Speaker 1: one because I mean just the legacy of films that

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Speaker 1: he has, that would be my bucket list director actor,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go big. I would call Leonardo DiCaprio just

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Speaker 1: because he doesn't miss it anymore. And I would really want

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Speaker 1: to know how he just approaches roles now and how

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Speaker 1: particular he has to be in what movies he says

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Speaker 1: yes to, not even getting into his just crazy history

1338
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Speaker 1: of banger after banger from dudes in Titanic, The Departed, Inception,

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Speaker 1: Shutter Island. I mean, you think of movie star, and

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Speaker 1: you think of Leonardo DiCaprio, and also somebody who doesn't

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Speaker 1: really do interviews anymore, and that of all the celebrities

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Speaker 1: that still have some kind of mystery about him, he

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Speaker 1: is on that short list that not on social media,

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Speaker 1: you don't really see a whole lot of him outside

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Speaker 1: of him partying on yachts with twenty year olds. But

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Speaker 1: I would like to know more about his career and

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Speaker 1: what he thinks are his best movies, what movies he

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Speaker 1: thinks ah, I probably should have said not of that one,

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Speaker 1: and more importantly, why he told Timothy Shallow made to

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Speaker 1: never do a superhero movie. I gotta know why. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I kind of know why, but I would like to

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Speaker 1: know it from him. So bucket list interviews of all

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Speaker 1: time Quentin Tarantino, Leonardo DiCaprio. But those are my two

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Speaker 1: and that is the episode for this week. If you're

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Speaker 1: listening to this on release week, still on vacation. But

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Speaker 1: I will be back next week with a brand new episode.

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Speaker 2: Hopefully you got some time off too. It's still holidays.

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Speaker 1: We're in that time where right now where we don't

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Speaker 1: really know what day it is. We're kind of in

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Speaker 1: limbo when New Year's coming up and then it's like, oh,

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Speaker 1: I gotta go back to work. I'm in this haze, man,

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Speaker 1: I gotta get Peggett to a routine. So we're still

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Speaker 1: all living in that. Hopefully you got some rest ate,

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Speaker 1: some good food, got to watch a bunch of movies.

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Speaker 2: That is what I've been doing this entire break.

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Speaker 1: If you need to know, probably seen it on me

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Speaker 1: posting on Instagram or TikTok. That's all I've been doing.

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Speaker 1: So I'll come back next week. I will do my

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Speaker 1: episode where I talk about my top ten films of

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Speaker 1: the year for twenty twenty four. I wanted to wait

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Speaker 1: this year because so many new movies come out over Christmas.

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Speaker 1: It's like four big ones coming out, and whenever I

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Speaker 1: do that episode early, I always kind of neglect those

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Speaker 1: movies because they come out towards the end of the year.

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Speaker 2: But it's a big time for movies.

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Speaker 1: So this time I wanted to wait until I saw

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Speaker 1: all those and could weigh them against what is currently

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Speaker 1: on my list of the best movies of the year.

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Speaker 1: So we'll come back next week with that episode, and

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Speaker 1: until next time, go out and watch good movies, and

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Speaker 1: I will talk to you later.