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Speaker 2: It is a Tuesday. Can we top yesterday show?

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Speaker 1: Glad? We'll give it a try. The Herd, Hierarchy and

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Speaker 1: Nick Wright in one hour from now, another iconic World

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Speaker 1: Series moment at Dodger Stadium on Fox Sports. It is

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Speaker 1: great to have you in today. I know some of

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Speaker 1: you are bleary eyed. I know we are here in Chicago.

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Speaker 1: What a wild why night? J Mack, you're in Los Angeles.

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Speaker 1: It's a remarkable the people that stayed at the game

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Speaker 1: because they had an hour and a half drive home.

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Speaker 1: They're not going to be many all time that are

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Speaker 1: like that. So let's not waste any time. Any World

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Speaker 1: Series game that goes eighteen innings can be won and

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Speaker 1: lost several times, wasted and delivered moments. The Blue Jays

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Speaker 1: stranded nineteen runners, the Dodger stranded eighteen runners. Both of

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Speaker 1: these teams had opportunities much earlier in the game, and

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Speaker 1: it was not a Hollywood blockbuster movie. It was more

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Speaker 1: like an eight part Netflix special, six hours, six hundred

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Speaker 1: pitches plus. But it was a perfect representation of what

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Speaker 1: makes the Dodgers great. Yes, there is o Tawny mj

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Speaker 1: plus he's absolutely unbelievable and we know that. But you

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Speaker 1: have Tommy Edmond making great defense plays. That's what Tommy

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Speaker 1: Edmond does all the time. You had four scoreless innings

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Speaker 1: from Will Klein. He was pitching for the Tacoma Rainiers.

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Speaker 1: That's near where I grew up. He had a seven

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Speaker 1: er for them. Every iconic Dodger moment, especially at Dodger Stadium,

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Speaker 1: it's not just about the money. There's always a Will cline.

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Speaker 1: He threw sixty six pitches in September. He threw seventy

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Speaker 1: two last night against the Blue Jays, easily the best

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Speaker 1: American League team, and only surrendered a hit in four innings.

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Speaker 1: Will Klein, still a young guy, released three times this year.

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Speaker 1: They asked him to go four and he just kept

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Speaker 1: with that red beard going out there and getting people out.

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Speaker 1: They needed Clayton Kershaw for a batter YEP Clayton Kershaw

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Speaker 1: so and then of course, of course it's the Dodgers.

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Speaker 1: So it goes without saying that Freddie Freeman would have

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Speaker 1: a walk off. But there were so many different Dodgers

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Speaker 1: that mattered. I mean, how fitting is it that Kershaw

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Speaker 1: they need an out? He gets it. Yes, it centers

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Speaker 1: around O TWI listen to this. O Tani hasn't made

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Speaker 1: an out. He hasn't made an out at Dodger Stadium

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Speaker 1: in close to two weeks. Seven for seven with six

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Speaker 1: are lucky to be witness to show hey, he is

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Speaker 1: officially in the sports world the show first player to

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Speaker 1: have multiple walks and multiple home runs in the same

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Speaker 1: World Series game. You have to go back to Yogi

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Speaker 1: Barratt in the fifties with the Yankees. Oh did I mention?

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Speaker 1: Otani is starting tonight and we'll be throwing ninety nine

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Speaker 1: miles an hour, seventeen hours after he got on base

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Speaker 1: nine times. Wasn't it just last week that o'tawni had

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Speaker 1: the greatest baseball game ever played. I'm losing track. It

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Speaker 1: was show hey, O Tawny all night long, of course,

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Speaker 1: else Freddie Freeman closed the door. Trueman says a five

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Speaker 2: Show's going back before the strikes Big played them has

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Speaker 3: It's a ray paid hero with the last.

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Speaker 1: Word had a game free classic. I mean that that

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Speaker 1: is goosebumps. I didn't see a lot lot of people

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Speaker 1: leaving tip of the cap to Dodger fans. Eighteen innings

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Speaker 1: ends at midnight, much later where I'm sitting this morning.

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Speaker 1: But I said before the series Dodgers and six. Two

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Speaker 1: best teams I believe are the Jays. Now they've got

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Speaker 1: an injury to overcome, and I don't know how much

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Speaker 1: gas they have. The Dodgers got very lucky with Yoshi's

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Speaker 1: complete game. Their bullpen was rested. Tonight it'll be show.

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Speaker 1: Heyo Tanni, think about this show, Hey o Tani seven

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Speaker 1: for seven, six walks and his last thirteen played appearances

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Speaker 1: will now pitch tonight. And he's doing that. Otani's doing

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Speaker 1: that in a sport where everybody throws ninety eight plus.

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Speaker 1: will climb for the Dodgers. Tria, a pitcher in Tacoma,

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Speaker 1: couldn't get people out there, four scoreless innings, biggest moment

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Speaker 1: of his life, still in his mid twenties. It was

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Speaker 4: You know, that could go down as one of the

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Speaker 4: it's one of those things that I do believe that

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Speaker 4: the two best teams in baseball are playing in this

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Speaker 4: series and the two toughest teams. There's a lot of

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Speaker 4: character right there. And you know, you saw what Laward did.

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Speaker 4: You saw Will klined it. We had you know, Henriquez,

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Speaker 4: was it Inningsrol Bleski and obviously Freddie being Freddie. It

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Speaker 4: took everybody on the active roster to win one baseball game,

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Speaker 4: and it's something special.

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Speaker 1: What's really remarkable about the Dodgers, and I think about

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Speaker 1: this all the time, is that you know how they say,

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Speaker 1: if you like playing basketball, you don't have to be

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Speaker 1: playing basketball and you go to the YMCA and you

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Speaker 1: play against a bunch of guys that are better than you,

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Speaker 1: it will raise your game. You like play better than

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Speaker 1: are wired. That's what it is. With the Dodgers. You

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Speaker 1: put these single A guys, you put Will Kleine in.

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Speaker 1: You put these guys around Freeman and Bets and Otani

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Speaker 1: and Glass now and everybody rises to the moment. It's

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Speaker 1: not just the money. The Yankees and Mets have a

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Speaker 1: lot of money. It's not just that. And the other

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Speaker 1: thing that really struck me last night watching this. Otani

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Speaker 1: it in October, is that if you are a great player,

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Speaker 1: and sometimes fans are like, well, I mean they all

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Speaker 1: Otani deserved to be a Dodger. I said it when

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Speaker 1: he signed, and I'll say it again. He's simply too

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Speaker 1: great not to be on the stage in October. He

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Speaker 1: is not only the best baseball player ever, I'm not

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Speaker 1: sure who's second. Honestly, I think Mookie Betts is the

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Speaker 1: in basketball you say six for six, everybody knows what

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Speaker 1: I mean, Gretzky doesn't have a number. Otani got on

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Speaker 1: base nine times. That's his number. Nobody else could do that.

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Speaker 1: All right, There was kind of a boring football game

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Speaker 1: last night. I won't spend too much time on it,

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Speaker 1: but it is the best team right now in the

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Speaker 1: They're still finding their way. Here's the scary thing, though,

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Speaker 1: six five weeks ago, we were saying, what does Kansas

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Speaker 1: deep offensively since twenty twenty two. Four hundred yards three

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Speaker 1: times in the last month. Rashi Rice is clearly clearly

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Speaker 1: a number one, Xavier Worthy clever number two, Juju Smith

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Speaker 1: They have not punted in the first half of their

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Speaker 1: So and the scary thing is they're missing two offensive linemen,

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Speaker 1: This is what great coaching does. Over the course of one, two, three, four,

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Speaker 1: five weeks, you just close up the weaknesses, build slowly

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Speaker 5: I mean, I know the records is good, but it's

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Speaker 5: a lot more fun just when everybody's kind of going

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Speaker 5: all we have to do is is push forward. And

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Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey eight catches, Isaiah Pacheco got significant carries twelve

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Speaker 1: Dodger Stadium, but I think you were getting so many

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Speaker 1: great defensive plays. My question today is if you are

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Speaker 1: a road team. So the Dodgers' bullpen was rested. You

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Speaker 1: know they spent three hundred and thirty five million for Yoshi.

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Speaker 1: He's been worth every penny because that complete game in

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Speaker 1: Game two, you had a bullpen that was rested.

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Speaker 1: The Blue Jays, I don't know what they have left.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna need seven and a half, seven and two

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Speaker 1: bullpens depleted. The Dodgers would love o Tani to go

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Speaker 1: six to seven tonight, but I think they could survive

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Speaker 1: if he didn't. So you know, if you win, if

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Speaker 1: you win Game three of the World Series, the numbers

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Speaker 1: tell you about a seventy percent chance of winning the series.

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Speaker 1: But that's just not a Game three that was incredibly taxing,

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Speaker 1: I don't know what's left in the tank will find out.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I think we got a baseball guest coming on later.

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Speaker 7: I would look just mentally, what does a game.

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Speaker 3: Like that do you know? Like, I mean, you clearly don't.

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Speaker 1: You ever see that guy that pulls into the driveway

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Speaker 1: Right now. The Baltimore Ravens at two and five are

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Speaker 1: Said this, the Rams had a quarterback that got him

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Speaker 1: are always optimistic. Here's j Mack with the news.

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Speaker 2: No No is the herd line News.

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Speaker 7: All right, gond, let's start with the San Francisco forty

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Speaker 7: He missed his fourth straight game against Houston with that

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Speaker 8: It's too early to say.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's a long shot.

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Speaker 2: But I know he's doing better, and we'll see how

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Speaker 10: Hopefully, if he's doing good, he'll get in some reps.

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Speaker 1: Well. I think he's got a really good backup. I

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Speaker 1: here's the good news. Mac Jones is probably the best

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Speaker 1: What's the point get one hundred percent?

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Speaker 7: Well, it is interesting because the Giants have a good

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Speaker 3: That's the opponent.

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Speaker 7: It hasn't been as great as we thought it would be.

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Speaker 7: you're the Niners, right Seattle's moving. They may not face

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Speaker 7: Jayden and Daniels this week. You can't keep falling behind.

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Speaker 7: The Rams are two touchdown favorites against the Saints, and

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Speaker 7: by the way, hold on Niners next week. Colin the

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Speaker 7: rematch with the Rams, remember that win on Thursday night.

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Speaker 7: They play again next week, so maybe they save.

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Speaker 3: Perdy for that.

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Speaker 1: Jmc you always say that when I'm on a heater.

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Speaker 1: I don't give you any clues. I like the Niners

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Speaker 7: I don't know why, why is it still two and

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Speaker 3: Scataboo's done.

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Speaker 1: If you look at Sean mcdermotoff, why did the Buffalo

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Speaker 1: They're trying to get equal play on both sides. Everything

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Speaker 1: told you the Bills would win, but the line was

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Speaker 7: I'm largely with you. I don't know what the Giants

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Speaker 1: Dark hold on time Ount CJ. Stroud.

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Speaker 3: I watch that closely because I was loaded up.

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Speaker 1: On the Texans.

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Speaker 7: Stroud beat them with his legs. The Niners have trouble

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Speaker 7: with these quarterbacks. Who could scramble Baker Maye field member

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Speaker 7: I'm with you on the Niners largely, but there are

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Speaker 3: Next up Detroit Lions.

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Speaker 7: They are coming out of their bye week at five

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Speaker 7: and also Dan Campbell says they haven't even played up

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Speaker 10: I really believe we hadn't played our best ball yet collectively,

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Speaker 10: you know, in all three phases, and that's really what

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Speaker 10: we're you know, what we're trying to get to here,

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Speaker 10: man is man, how can we sharpen ourselves? We know

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Speaker 10: it's going to take every phase. Every game is different

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Speaker 10: and one unit may have to pick up the slack

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Speaker 10: of ma'am. We need to start playing complete ball across

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well it takes time for everybody. They're good. They're

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Speaker 1: on the right spots, pass rushers, weapons, They're good. I

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Speaker 1: Ben Johnson. Offense is fine. O line's fine, running, game's great,

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Speaker 1: They're fine, are they?

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Speaker 3: I mean, Colin again, I get it.

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Speaker 7: You look on the surface five and two, Oh my gosh,

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Speaker 7: leaving the division, everybody, you start to drill down a

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Speaker 3: Oh, let's see the good teams they've played.

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Speaker 7: So they get smashed in the opener by the Packers,

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Speaker 7: Like I just again this same deal with the Chiefs. Man,

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Speaker 7: I look at that, Oh, you beat you know, the

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Speaker 7: that win over Tampa before the by Tampa was exhausted

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Speaker 1: Sounds like a lot of excuses. Detroit's pretty good. If

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Speaker 1: now is pre season. Nobody plays any starters. Go week go,

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Speaker 3: Not I'm sorry, not best. Who would you trust the

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Speaker 3: Right now?

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Speaker 1: Philadelphia? Are you forgetting Green Bay?

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Speaker 1: No, Seattle makes way too many mistakes. They're too young,

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Speaker 1: and they're not they're just not buttoned up yet.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 1: It's Rams Lions. Depends on where the game's played in Detroit.

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Speaker 1: I take Detroit.

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Speaker 3: It could be three or four or five in the NFC.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's good enough. If you're in the top three,

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Speaker 1: you're in a good space.

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Speaker 7: By the way, this week, we're gonna Smoke them.

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Speaker 11: J J.

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Speaker 7: McCarthy, smoke them. He's a Viking season. By the way,

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Speaker 7: it's three and four. They have Lamar on deck. Okay,

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Speaker 7: Cooper Flag one today.

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Speaker 3: And it's not good.

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Speaker 7: He appeared to hurt his shoulder last night early in

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Speaker 7: the game, proceeded to shoot one of nine, had no

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Speaker 7: assist in thirty one minutes, came out of the game

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Speaker 7: early in the fourth, did not return. Now, this was

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Speaker 7: his first back to back as a pro. Here's Flag

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Speaker 7: talking about the injury. And I'm not gonna call it

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Speaker 7: a benching, but he was kind of on the bench

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Speaker 7: the end.

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Speaker 12: Probably get some stands or whatever, make sure everything's all clean.

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Speaker 12: But I thought he was just a little sore. Just

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Speaker 12: wanted to keep eye on it, you know. I said,

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Speaker 12: do some rehab and shore we could a go.

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Speaker 10: I wasn't myself.

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Speaker 12: I wasn't, you know, impacting the game at a high level.

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Speaker 7: Wasn't doing the right stuff.

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Speaker 1: So obviously I's a easy decision for coach and he's just.

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Speaker 12: Out there try and win the game. So, I mean,

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Speaker 12: you know, those guys did a great job, no battle

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Speaker 12: the back down to take twenty more than that one point.

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Speaker 12: So they did a incredible job just to out of

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Speaker 12: bag and put us in a position where we could

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Speaker 12: have won a game.

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Speaker 7: So Cooper Flag is eighteen years old for another seven

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Speaker 7: weeks eighteen.

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Speaker 3: That is insane.

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Speaker 1: Mavericks.

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Speaker 7: By the way, your NBA Finals pick, I'll give you

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Speaker 7: a mulligan. You know, I don't even know if they're

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Speaker 7: a playoff team coming.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry. It's October. Austin Reeves looks like the best

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Speaker 1: player in the year. It's October. He looks like the

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Speaker 1: best player in the association. It's October. Okay, all right?

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Speaker 8: J Mack of the news, Well, that's the news, and

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Speaker 8: thanks for stopping by. It's the herd Line News.

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Speaker 1: So it's very interesting when you live in Chicago and

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Speaker 1: everybody is so uptied about Caleb Williams. I saw another

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Speaker 1: story today. Here's the headline. Caleb Williams is fine. Everybody relax,

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Speaker 1: well fine, not the standard. When a you hired the

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Speaker 1: hottest offensive coach on the market, you upgraded your offensive

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Speaker 1: line by one hundred million dollars. You've had the third

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Speaker 1: easiest schedule in the NFL, and the Packers now are surching.

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Speaker 1: Fine is when you take your family out to dinner

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Speaker 1: and the bill is like forty eight bucks and dinner's fine.

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Speaker 1: It's not fine. If it's the wedding anniversary and you

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Speaker 1: spend four hundred dollars and the food is fine, that's

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Speaker 1: not good enough. Listen, the numbers are really interesting. Through

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Speaker 1: seven games from last year to this year. One thing

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Speaker 1: has improved dramatically. He is getting sacked half as much,

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Speaker 1: and that's really important. Everything else is the same Eber Blues,

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Speaker 1: Ben Johnson. Maybe this is just what Caleb is. He

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Speaker 1: holds the ball too long right now, longer than any

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Speaker 1: quarterback in the league, and outside of the scripted opening drive,

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Speaker 1: he's not very accurate. Maybe that's what he is. Two staffs,

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Speaker 1: multiple coaches, outside of the sacks coming down, which is important,

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Speaker 1: the same guy. So if you take out the Dallas

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Speaker 1: Cowboys game, which everybody scores on the Dallas Cowboys got

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Speaker 1: an eighty one passer rating five TVs. Four picks, and

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Speaker 1: you say Colin an eighty one passer rating, that is fine.

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Speaker 1: Will Levis had an eighty one passer rating last year. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so that is not fine. So again he's a number

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Speaker 1: one overall pick. They hired the hottest, most coveted offensive coach.

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Speaker 1: They spent one hundred million plus to upgrade the interior line,

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Speaker 1: wide receiver, tight end, excellent talent, running back, two schedule easy,

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Speaker 1: only getting harder. So the numbers are what they say.

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Speaker 1: They are so kind of middle of the pack. And

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Speaker 1: by the way, I don't think I'm being harsh. I

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Speaker 1: tend to be a guy that's data driven. Look at

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Speaker 1: the numbers. So if you go to seven games last

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Speaker 1: year with a mess of a coaching staff and the

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Speaker 1: first seven games this year, the numbers are all the same.

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Speaker 1: He completes about sixty one percent of his throws. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's not fifty two percent. And the opening drive has

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Speaker 1: been very impressive. But I'm not the only one saying this.

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Speaker 1: Carson Palmer. I came on yesterday and I said, I

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Speaker 1: don't think he is a timing and rhythm quarterback, and

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Speaker 1: I think it's a timing and rhythm offense and head coach.

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Speaker 1: And here's what Carson Palmer said.

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Speaker 13: I just have yet to watch a game where I've

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Speaker 13: seen him excel in the pocket and you know, drop back, take,

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Speaker 13: you know, go through his footwork, whether it's five steps,

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Speaker 13: one hitch, two hitch, three hitch, and then extend to play.

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Speaker 13: You're just seeing him get to the pocket, look around,

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Speaker 13: look around.

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Speaker 1: And then escape.

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Speaker 13: Just don't see the development there for the last couple

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Speaker 13: of years. And I don't see a comfort level with

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Speaker 13: Caleb's game within the pocket.

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Speaker 1: So the quarterback class he came out of, Jayden Daniels,

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Speaker 1: Boom Day one star, Drake May, year two, start of

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Speaker 1: the season star bo Nicks last year made the playoffs

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Speaker 1: in the Mahomes Herbert Division. I don't think it takes

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Speaker 1: that long. It's just my opinion. I do think by

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Speaker 1: Thanksgiving of the second year, you're going to kind of

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Speaker 1: see what people are. So we got a month ago,

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Speaker 1: but if you look at the numbers last year and

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Speaker 1: this year, Mike, one of the things I've always said

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Speaker 1: is that what was your primary liability in college, consistent accuracy.

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Speaker 1: If that becomes your primary issue in the NFL, consistent accuracy,

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Speaker 1: then that's what you are now. There are times Jordan

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Speaker 1: Love was kind of reckless in college. He's not reckless.

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Speaker 1: Now why he's getting better coaching, Like, sometimes you don't

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Speaker 1: get the college coaching, sometimes you get much better coaching

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Speaker 1: in the Pro. So you can have an issue in

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Speaker 1: college that disappears, right, Like Johnny Manzel looked small in college.

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Speaker 1: I watched this first NFL game. He was even smaller

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Speaker 1: in the pros. That's a problem, right, So does your

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Speaker 1: issue carry over? If it does, that's who you are.

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Speaker 1: So I do think you can win games. I do

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Speaker 1: think he's exciting. I've said the word horsepower one hundred times.

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Speaker 1: But the numbers are the numbers. And you know, timing

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Speaker 1: in rhythm coach, not a timing and rhythm quarterback. Doesn't

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Speaker 1: mean you can't win games. But remember the Lions and

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Speaker 1: the Packers are in this division. The Lions have the

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Speaker 1: best offensive line arguably in the sport, a super Bowl quarterback,

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Speaker 1: weapons everywhere, and the Packers are the youngest offense, and

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Speaker 1: over the last three or four weeks they're getting better fast.

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Speaker 1: So that to me is not fine. In relax, those

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Speaker 1: are not the two words I would use. Fine and relax, Right, Like,

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Speaker 1: if you spend let's say you spend one hundred thousand

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Speaker 1: dollars to upgrade your kitchen and you come in and

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Speaker 1: you look at it. It shouldn't be fine. If I

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Speaker 1: spent one hundred thousand dollars from my kitchen, I should

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Speaker 1: be like, sweet, this is awesome. So I mean the coach,

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Speaker 1: the schedule, the old lineup grades, and I've been saying this.

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Speaker 1: I think the Bears offensive talent's good. DJ Moore's good.

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Speaker 1: You just had cast that one hundred this weekend. Coleston Lovelin,

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Speaker 1: Cole come Ot, DeAndre Swift. Roma Dunze is a good player.

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Speaker 1: I will say Caleb is not getting sacked as much,

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Speaker 1: and he has developed a real relationship with Roma Dunze.

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Speaker 1: Those are the two things I really like. He and

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Speaker 1: Roma Dunze are on the same page. That's important. And

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Speaker 1: he's not getting sacked as much, really important. There are

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Speaker 1: some positives they're not all putting drive on script is good,

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Speaker 1: but I'm not fine and relaxed. It's not what I

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Speaker 1: want to hear heard Hierarchy Nick Wright top of our

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Speaker 1: number two.

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Speaker 8: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays

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Speaker 8: and noon Eastern not a em Pacific.

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Speaker 7: Last night, the Dodgers took a two games to one

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Speaker 7: World Series lead, after an epic eighteen inning marathon. Now

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Speaker 7: the Blue Jays looked to tie it up in Game four.

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Speaker 7: Coverage begins tonight at seven pm Eastern, four pm Pacific

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Speaker 7: on You know.

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Speaker 1: I was thinking about this this morning. Between Freddie Freeman's

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Speaker 1: walk off in the eighteen and Trump's tariffs on Canada,

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Speaker 1: We're not being very nice to our neighbors to the north.

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Speaker 1: We're just not being very nice. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: the Blue Jays have anything left. They you know, march

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Speaker 1: through the Yankees, march through the American League. They're a

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Speaker 1: great team, but they lost their clutch hitting George Springer,

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Speaker 1: who was great with the Astros, great with the Blue Jays.

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Speaker 1: He's probably gone in the series or certainly limited. You

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Speaker 1: lose on the road in eighteen and exhaust your bullpen.

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Speaker 1: I just it felt backbreaking to me when Freddy Freeman

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Speaker 1: hit that thing out, it felt backbreaking. So again, the

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Speaker 1: Dodgers bullpen was more rested because they went and spent

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Speaker 1: three hundred and thirty five million on Yoshi and all

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Speaker 1: he does now is throw complete games, which helps the Dodgers' bullpen.

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Speaker 1: So last night, after the game, blue Jays manager he's

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Speaker 1: got a new solution for Ojay Tawny. He's not going

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Speaker 1: to pitch to him anymore.

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Speaker 14: We're trying to pitch around him, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 14: And you trust Sir Anthony to make pitches to do that,

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Speaker 14: and sometimes for pitchers it's hard to do that, you know,

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Speaker 14: when you're you're kind of trying to throw a ball

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Speaker 14: and didn't put it where you want to put it.

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Speaker 14: But you know, he had a great game. He's a

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Speaker 14: great player. But I think, you know, after that, you

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Speaker 14: just kind of take the bet out of his hands.

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Speaker 1: And not to give away secrets, but this is pretty

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Speaker 1: much what we should expect going forward. Yeah, listen, when

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Speaker 1: you come for the King, you best not miss. And

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Speaker 1: I felt like last night they missed barely. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it was a game that could have gone either way.

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Speaker 1: Warning track balls all night, but they had their shots

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Speaker 1: last night. I mean, the Dodgers stranded eighteen runners. The

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Speaker 1: Dodgers relied on a guy from the Tacoma Rainiers that

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Speaker 1: had been cut three times Will Climb and they got

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Speaker 1: to hit off him. So I just think, you know,

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Speaker 1: it feels like it is meant to be. To me,

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Speaker 1: the three four best players in the series are Otani, Bets,

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Speaker 1: Vlad Guerrero, Freddie Freeman and the Dodgers. I mean, Yoshi

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Speaker 1: now is Yammoto? Is is he four or five? I mean,

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Speaker 1: when you're going complete games in the postseason and dominating

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Speaker 1: lineups like the Brewers and the Blue Jays, it just

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Speaker 1: feels like I thought the Dodgers were gonna win this

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Speaker 1: thing anyway. But man, I'm not sure how you overcome

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Speaker 1: last night. I'm not sure. It just kind of felt

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Speaker 1: like the oxygen got pulled out after Freddie hit it out.

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Speaker 1: Here's Dave Roberts on the Blue Jays trying to pitch

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Speaker 1: to Otani.

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Speaker 4: Playing with you, there's no bigger clutch player in the postseason.

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Speaker 4: You know, I played with Barry, but you know, to

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Speaker 4: see you know, Schneider walk he with nobody on base

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Speaker 4: to make sure he doesn't beat him. You know, I've

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Speaker 4: never seen anything like it, certainly in the postseason. And

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Speaker 4: this guy's gonna be pitching later today, and that's what's crazy.

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Speaker 4: But you know, just good at bats, and you knew

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Speaker 4: that he was going to do something special tonight, and

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Speaker 4: John was going to make sure he didn't kind of

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Speaker 4: finish the game, and thank goodness, we got Freddy Freeman

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Speaker 4: in our lineup too.

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Speaker 11: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean, listen, Los Angeles knows how to handle stars.

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Speaker 1: They always have Matt Stafford, Aaron Donald, Justin Herbert, Jim Harbaugh,

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Speaker 1: Sean McVay o, Tawny Bets, Freddie Freeman. Their proximity to

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Speaker 1: the Pacific Rim is certainly valuable. But Otani was doing

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Speaker 1: a lot of this stuff in Anaheim, and we said

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Speaker 1: for years, Mike Trout, go to the Yankees, get on

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Speaker 1: the stage. You've earned it. I'm watching last night and

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking, and this is not a shot at the Angels,

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Speaker 1: but the Dodgers are so well run. And the advantage

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Speaker 1: to playing for a big market team or a team

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Speaker 1: with a lot of money is better people hit behind you,

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Speaker 1: better people hit in front of you. They don't absolutely

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Speaker 1: rely on you. I said this about the late Kobe

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Speaker 1: Bryant when Shack left. Kobe wanted to be the man.

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Speaker 1: He didn't want to be the only man. That's why

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Speaker 1: five star players go to Ohio State and not Purdue.

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Speaker 1: They want to be surrounded and elevated by the best players.

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Speaker 1: So I think Toronto's a great team. I think they're

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Speaker 1: a fantastic team. I don't know what you could. Sometimes

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Speaker 1: the answer is we don't have one. It's like Michael

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Speaker 1: Jordan the Phoenix Suns. What are we gonna do? I

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Speaker 1: don't think there's an answer to Otawani, Freeman, Betts and

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Speaker 1: the Dodger starting pitching. So I saw this quote this morning.

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Speaker 1: This would terrify me. If I'm a Dallas Cowboy fan.

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Speaker 1: I've been very pro Jerry pro dak this year. Jerry

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Speaker 1: Jones is not happy with the Cowboys record. He will

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Speaker 1: consider trades to make the team better. Stephen Jones, Charlotte

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Speaker 1: step in, get in front of Jerry. So the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: are actually in a really good spot. Four first round

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Speaker 1: picks the next two years, highly entertaining this season, but

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Speaker 1: not good. So one of those picks is going to

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Speaker 1: be a top ten and next year's draft is loaded

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Speaker 1: with what you need in the first round, great edge

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Speaker 1: rushers and a few corners. So the teams that should

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Speaker 1: be really really working on trade deadline deals rams they

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Speaker 1: did yesterday and went and got a corner from the

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Speaker 1: Titans Colts New England. Could they get another pass rusher Buffalo?

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Speaker 1: I mean, Buffalo's pass defense is pretty good, the offense

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Speaker 1: is fine. Could they use another receiver, Could they use

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Speaker 1: a defensive stopper on the interior. So the trade deadline

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Speaker 1: is for specific teams. It's not the New York Giants

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Speaker 1: unless you want to move somebody. New York Giants are

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Speaker 1: not gonna be a playoff team. Move somebody, get a pick.

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Speaker 1: If somebody needs an interior defensive lineman, Dexter Lawrence had

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Speaker 1: better days, maybe that's the guy. So but somebody has

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Speaker 1: to step in front of Jerry. I've said this sometimes

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Speaker 1: when you make a trade and you make a deal,

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Speaker 1: you don't look good for six months to a year.

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Speaker 1: That's Dallas moving off Micah. That's the Lakers moving off Shack.

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Speaker 1: The Lakers knew first year and a half it's not

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Speaker 1: going to look good. We got to get Kobe a partner.

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Speaker 1: They did. But you're right now, the Cowboys are the

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Speaker 1: tenth best team in the NFC. So just don't get

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Speaker 1: in your way. It's painful, it's ugly. Couldn't be going better.

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Speaker 1: What you need in the first round. The draft has

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Speaker 1: a lot of corners and edge rushers. You don't need

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Speaker 1: a quarterback. Seven teams do. They'll move up. You can

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Speaker 1: move down and turn two first round picks into additional three,

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Speaker 1: four and five round picks. So it's it's really you know,

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Speaker 1: I gotta see it till April. Dallas is in a

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Speaker 1: really good spot, just not today. And here's Jerry on

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Speaker 1: a potential deal before the trade deadline.

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Speaker 11: If I saw a proposition for us to help this team, well,

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Speaker 11: no matter what this score was today, then I would

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Speaker 11: look at it on the merits of helping the state.

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Speaker 11: And I'm not trying to be cute, but that's why

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Speaker 11: you'd go get him, is that you'd think it could

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Speaker 11: help you defense. One player we one player away on defense.

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Speaker 1: I think we're not. Yeah they're not. But you could

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Speaker 1: be a first round edge rusher and a first round corner.

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Speaker 1: And because you moved off Micah, maybe you can find

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Speaker 1: another interior backer, slot corner too, or a safety. So

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Speaker 1: Cowboys now have the quarterback and flexibility and draft picks.

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Speaker 1: That's a great place to be. The Rams yesterday went

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Speaker 1: and got a corner. That's what the Rams should do.

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Speaker 1: The Rams don't have a whole except corner. That's what

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Speaker 1: That's what the trade deadline's for, all right. Game four,

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Speaker 1: Derek Jeter will be joining us third hour. He was

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Speaker 1: up late. Nick Wright is joining us with her hierarchy

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Speaker 1: top of Next Hour. I don't think. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if you can top last night. The team that wins

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Speaker 1: Game three of the World Series wins about seventy percent

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Speaker 1: of the time. I think it's the same thing. In

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Speaker 1: the NBA Finals. Game three is kind of a deciding

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Speaker 1: game Game three or Game five, don't Yeah, I just

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Speaker 1: I think that's a lot to overcome.

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Speaker 3: Hey, real quick calling. You want a little breaking news

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Speaker 3: in the NFL?

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Tyler Shook has been named the starter for the Saints

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Speaker 7: against the Rams this week, according to Ian Rappaport, and

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Speaker 7: the line has gone up from thirteen and a half

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Speaker 7: to fifteen in some spots.

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Speaker 3: Does that do anything for you?

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Speaker 1: I'll take the Rams. Yeah. I don't like big favorites.

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Speaker 1: I will take the Rams.

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Speaker 11: Like it.

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Speaker 1: Nick Wright heard hierarchy Next