1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Horse racing is putting the expression all news 3 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 1: is good news to the test this week. The sport's 4 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:13,120 Speaker 1: been in the news a lot since Kentucky Derby winner 5 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 1: Medina's Spirit failed a drug test, but there's a lot 6 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 1: of negative attention. Yesterday, trainer Bob Baffort had to walk 7 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:22,639 Speaker 1: things back on that topical ointment that he used on 8 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 1: Medina's Spirit. Still, Maryland racing officials are going to let 9 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 1: the horse compete in the Preakness this weekend. In fact, 10 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 1: his presence will probably be the key to the race 11 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 1: getting respectable ratings. But big picture here the questions about 12 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 1: Bob Baffort, the trainer. Are they going to come down 13 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:41,479 Speaker 1: hard on him? Make a point here, They're going to 14 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 1: dque the horse and take away the Kentucky Derby, And 15 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 1: it's unfortunate. At twelve to one, medinas Spirit was a 16 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 1: great underdog story and Baffort was starting to get recognized 17 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 1: even more as one of the transcendent figures in racing. 18 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 1: And now we have chaos. But it's interesting, probably not 19 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:00,120 Speaker 1: how horse racing authorities would like the sport to be 20 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 1: elevated to mainstream but any publicity is good publicity. Right, 21 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 1: Let's bring in Pat forty covers. The Sport had a 22 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:12,399 Speaker 1: lot of things to say about Bob Baffort. After the 23 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 1: Kentucky Derby, Pat had a tweet saying Maryland officials site 24 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 1: integrity of due process and allowing Medina Spirit to run, 25 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:23,960 Speaker 1: while also asking for additional testing of the derby winner. 26 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: Testing yesterday and today should yield results by Friday, officials, 27 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 1: said Pat. I said this after the Derby. I said 28 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 1: it to Bob Baffert, why don't they test the horses 29 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 1: prior to the Derby? Then you don't have this embarrassment? 30 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 1: And he said, well, it's hard to do that. If 31 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:43,320 Speaker 1: you do it Friday and then the race is Saturday, 32 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 1: can you get the test results? Well, the Preakness is 33 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 1: doing this now and Medina's Spirit is going to be 34 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 1: racing here. So what do you make of the Preakness, 35 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 1: Medina Spirit and Bob Bafford. Yeah, I guess I'm not 36 00:01:56,320 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 1: surprised that Medina Spirit has been given the tentative go 37 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 1: ahead to race. We'll see what the drug test comes 38 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 1: back with on Friday. If there's still traces of Betha 39 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 1: Medazon in his system or not. But I just think 40 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 1: that without the second confirming sample back from Churchill Downs 41 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:18,079 Speaker 1: that they were facing, you know a lot of angry 42 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 1: lawyering if they tried to keep the horse out of 43 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 1: the Preakness here and quite frankly, you know, as you 44 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:25,920 Speaker 1: alluded to, you don't want to run a Preakness without 45 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 1: the Derby winner if it's controversial. Well maybe also much 46 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:31,959 Speaker 1: the better for a race that really is lacking any 47 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 1: luster day And I mean this is a weak field 48 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 1: other than Medina Spirit and Baffort's other horse concert tour. 49 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 1: So if you're Pimlico Race Course of Maryland Jockey Club, 50 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 1: you're sitting there saying, yeah, we want that horse and 51 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:49,800 Speaker 1: yeah yeah. The head veterinarian at Pimlico said the following 52 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 1: this morning. If there is or was any of this 53 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 1: drug or any other medications, whether therapeutic or illegal, in 54 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 1: the horse, we will know about that before the race. 55 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:02,800 Speaker 1: This is supposed to be therapeutic, this cream that was 56 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:06,640 Speaker 1: put on this horse, So why is it considered cheating 57 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 1: if it's not something that really you know, it's not 58 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 1: a performance enhancing drug. Yeah, well, I mean it as 59 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 1: an anti inflammatory, I would think it falls into the 60 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 1: category of something that relieves discomfort for horses, and thus 61 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 1: is it relieving a discomfort that would otherwise keep them 62 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 1: from running as well or running at all? If without that, 63 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 1: it's not the first Bafford horse to test positive for this. 64 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 1: I mean, has brilliantly fast Philly tested for this last 65 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 1: year in the Kentucky Oaks. So what was the purpose 66 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 1: of using it? Then? You know, is there is it 67 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 1: being used simply as a topical for a skim irritation, 68 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 1: or is it you being used to alleviate pain or 69 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 1: discomfort in some other area. That's I think the question. 70 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 1: I wondered, if Bob Bafford didn't go all scorched earth 71 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 1: a couple of days ago, that we might be a 72 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 1: little bit more lenient because he had cancel culture, he 73 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 1: had sabotage, I mean denials, never used it, We don't 74 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 1: use this. And then I said to Bob, Bob, did 75 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 1: you do inventory here? Did you ask people who work 76 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 1: with you? He said, we're in the process. Don't you 77 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 1: start with the veterinarian. I mean, I don't understand this, Pat, 78 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: I don't. No, I'm with you, that exactly. I mean, 79 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 1: if they found out about this on Saturday. I mean, 80 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:29,159 Speaker 1: the first call goes to the vet, doesn't it if 81 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 1: if you are, you know, one hundred percent in the clear, 82 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 1: the first call is there any chance to why this 83 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:35,600 Speaker 1: horse would have this in its system? And you go 84 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:38,840 Speaker 1: from there to everybody else in your barn. You know, 85 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: why would the horse test positive for this? And yeah, 86 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:45,360 Speaker 1: I think Bob's reaction h definitely was off putting to 87 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:48,479 Speaker 1: some people. And just the cumulative effect of this has been, 88 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 1: you know, five very high profile positive tests for Bob 89 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:56,040 Speaker 1: Baffer horses. You know, he's great for the sport in 90 00:04:56,160 --> 00:05:00,720 Speaker 1: terms of his success and his visibility and his roachability. 91 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 1: He's glib, you know, he's recognizable in a sport where 92 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:08,279 Speaker 1: nobody's recognizable. But at the same time he's lost a 93 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 1: lot of credibility in the last year plus really over 94 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:12,840 Speaker 1: these drug tests. And I think this was like one 95 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 1: bridge too many for a lot of people. Did horse 96 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 1: racing have a good week? No? I don't think so. Now. 97 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 1: I mean you could argue, you know, as your lead 98 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 1: in said, any publisty is good publisting. They're testing the 99 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 1: bounds of that, for sure. I don't think so. Anytime 100 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 1: the Kentucky Derby winner is disqualified. That's a bad week. Now. 101 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:35,719 Speaker 1: It has certainly sustained the storyline of Medina Spirit and 102 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 1: and the Kentucky Derby for several days, and and it's 103 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 1: brought interest into the Preakness that maybe wouldn't be there. 104 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:44,039 Speaker 1: But I don't think. I think what we're gonna have. 105 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:46,720 Speaker 1: We're gonna have people at Pimlico booing the Medinas Spirit 106 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 1: and you know, while that may not hurt the horses feelings, 107 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: it's not necessarily good for the sport. The horse hasn't 108 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 1: apologized technically, yes he has. He's been stubbornly silent. Yes, 109 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:02,160 Speaker 1: yes he has. Thanks for joining us, Pat, We appreciate 110 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 1: your time as always my pleasure. Damn. That's bad forting 111 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:08,720 Speaker 1: spot till the strated senior writer. Yeah, I think horse 112 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 1: racing will benefit from this. The casual fan probably doesn't 113 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:16,280 Speaker 1: care about it. You like the event, somebody's gonna have 114 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 1: a party. You go over, and then everybody has some cocktails, 115 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 1: whatever the cocktail is of that race, and then you 116 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:27,280 Speaker 1: have that and you know, maybe you have the horse racing, uh, 117 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 1: you know, prior races in the background, and all of 118 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 1: a sudden you gather around TV and then you watch 119 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 1: for two and a half minutes and then it's done. 120 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 1: Does anybody care if it's like real or sanctioned or 121 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 1: I don't know if people do. It's almost like we 122 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:52,839 Speaker 1: move past steroids in baseball, certainly in football Tour de France. Yeah, 123 00:06:52,920 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 1: somebody's doing something football sure, hdh steroids, somebody doing umpthing. 124 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:03,359 Speaker 1: It's like we just kind of said, all right, whatever, 125 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna watch for the entertainment here, you know, 126 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 1: not the moral compass here of the sport. And I'm 127 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 1: worried about the integrity like I used to. You know, 128 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 1: you know I was flying that flag, you know, oh, 129 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 1: you got to protect the sport. I wanted to protect 130 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 1: Hank Aaron, believe it or not. That was my crusade. 131 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 1: I gotta protect Hank Aaron from what. I'm not sure 132 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 1: other than Barry Bonds. And Barry Bonds is you know, 133 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 1: friends with Hank Aaron. But I'm going to protect him 134 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 1: from I'm gonna protect the integrity this sport. When you 135 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 1: tell people, oh, yeah, you know, h GH is a 136 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 1: big issue in the NFL, people don't care. Do you 137 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 1: care unless it's a quarterback who tested positive? Like if 138 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 1: it came out that Tom Brady used performance enhancing drugs, 139 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 1: or Russell Wilson or throw out Patrick Mahomes. There you go. 140 00:07:54,240 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 1: If Patrick Mahomes tested positive, probably a big deal, but 141 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 1: not as big as Derek Jeter testing positive because we 142 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 1: viewed steroids differently in baseball than we do in football, 143 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 1: because you know, having been on the sidelines and listening 144 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 1: to the collisions, I'm like, hell, yes, I'd be using 145 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 1: steroids if I played baseball. Oh my god, the integrity 146 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 1: of this sport, like we kind of pick and choose 147 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 1: when it really bothers us. Thanks for listening to The 148 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 1: Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to catch us live 149 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 1: every weekday morning nine to noon Eastern or six to 150 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 1: nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. Find your local station 151 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 1: for The Dan Patrick Show at Fox Sports Radio dot com, 152 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 1: or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app 153 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:44,319 Speaker 1: by searching f s R, or stream us live on 154 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 1: the Peacock Act. I was in the back room talking 155 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 1: to the back room guys. Nobody else does, but I 156 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 1: went back to say hello, and then I walk out, 157 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 1: coming back over to the other side of the man cave. 158 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 1: Seaton goes, do you hear about Gwyneth Paltrow, and I go, 159 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 1: wait what and Paully goes save it. I go, you 160 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 1: can't do that. You know. I love Hollywood. Are we're 161 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 1: gonna have a Hollywood minute here? Seaton. I gotta get 162 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 1: to Florio, but you're teasing me here with Gwyneth Paltrow. 163 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:18,320 Speaker 1: She made a pretty powerful admission about some of the 164 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 1: sort of the lows that she hit during uh quarantine. 165 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 1: Oh okay, are you ready? No, no, no, no, I 166 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:27,959 Speaker 1: gotta get to Florio. I mean, he's really busy. It's 167 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 1: it's a stunning unless Mike Floria wants to hear about 168 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:33,199 Speaker 1: Gwyneth Paltrow. Mike, I'm gonna leave this up to you. 169 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:36,439 Speaker 1: We can talk football, or we can work in Gwyneth 170 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:39,559 Speaker 1: Paltrow and I will not be able to function properly 171 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 1: over the course of this interview if I don't know, okay, 172 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:47,319 Speaker 1: what happened and I and I believe you're being sincere. Mike, yes, 173 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 1: set well, listen, it's broke. I think maybe a day 174 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 1: or two ago. Um, but it's it's just taken me 175 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 1: now to emotionally be prepared to bring this to you guys. 176 00:09:55,960 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 1: But apparently during quarantine, Gwyneth Paltrow broke down and date bread. 177 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 1: Oh my god, actual bread, Yeah, carbs and all back 178 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 1: to you. Did she announce this like a like a revelation. 179 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 1: That's how low things got? She actually ate bread, the 180 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:17,320 Speaker 1: crust and everything. Yes, Oh my god, Mike, Gwyneth she 181 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 1: was really Although when you said she ate bread, I 182 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 1: thought you said she ate Brad. No, I'm gone. Now, 183 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 1: let's bring in Mike Florio, Pro Football Talk Live co host. 184 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 1: Let me start with Tim Tebow. I'm curious. You know 185 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 1: you had Chris collins Worth podcast with Urban Meyer and 186 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:43,439 Speaker 1: Chris ask him and Urban basically saying I haven't made 187 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 1: a decision yet. When does he have to make a 188 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:49,679 Speaker 1: decision on Tim Tebow joining the ninety man roster. Let 189 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 1: me just first say that during quarantine, on a nightly basis, 190 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 1: I took a large piece of bread, soaked it in bourbon, 191 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 1: lit it on fire, and swam wallowed at holes. So 192 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 1: take that when you look at the clip of what 193 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 1: Urban Meyers said to Chris Collinsworth. I mean, at one 194 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 1: point he says, hey, let's give it a shot. Well, 195 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 1: but we haven't decided to do it yet. I don't. 196 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:15,319 Speaker 1: I don't I don't get it, Dan, I don't know 197 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 1: if this is a trial balloon, if they're they're stung 198 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 1: by what happened with the Iowa strength coach that they 199 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 1: had on the payroll for like a day before urban 200 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 1: Meyer realized. This isn't like college football, where you just 201 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 1: do whatever you want to do. This is a gimmick. 202 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 1: This is a side show. Urban Meyer's trying to sell 203 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:35,679 Speaker 1: it as something other than that. It is an effort 204 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:38,560 Speaker 1: to sell jerseys, it's an effort to sell tickets. They 205 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 1: can sign them whenever they want to sign him. And 206 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:42,559 Speaker 1: I think part of it is, frankly, they got to 207 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 1: figure out what they're gonna do with Gardner Minshew because 208 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 1: he's wearing Tebow's number, and so that's that's a reason 209 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 1: to wait, because you want to sell the fifteen jerseys 210 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 1: right out of the gates. You don't want to have 211 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 1: a back order of fifteen jerseys, and you don't want 212 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:56,560 Speaker 1: to have something awkward where he wears number sixteen then 213 00:11:56,600 --> 00:12:00,200 Speaker 1: number fifteen. But I feel like it's going to happen. 214 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 1: It's just a matter of when. And I guess the 215 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 1: one small sliver is the possibility that urban Meyer gets 216 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 1: enough pushback internally that he realizes this isn't college football. 217 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:11,440 Speaker 1: I'm not going to be able to make this fly 218 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 1: in the locker room because there's gonna be guy's giving 219 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 1: him the side eye in the locker room saying, are 220 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:17,560 Speaker 1: you serious? A guy hasn't been in the NFL since 221 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 1: twenty twelve in a regular season game, never played tight end, 222 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 1: He had one snap at tight end, it did not 223 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 1: go well. And he's going to get one of these 224 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:27,960 Speaker 1: jobs that there are hundreds of guys out there trying 225 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:29,560 Speaker 1: to get these jobs. Get out of here with that. 226 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 1: I feel like he's going to have to deal with 227 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 1: that internally. But it's the ninety man roster that's that's 228 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 1: different from me if it got down to the fifty 229 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:42,839 Speaker 1: three man roster, Wait will I think? I think if 230 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 1: he gets on the ninety man roster, he's gonna make 231 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 1: the fifty three man roster. Well, why is he on 232 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:50,320 Speaker 1: the ninety man Roster's what's the point of given one 233 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 1: in ninety roster spots and one of the most competitive 234 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 1: sports in the world. When there are guys every year 235 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:58,440 Speaker 1: coming out of the college level who are good enough 236 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:00,680 Speaker 1: to play at the NFL level and they're dying for 237 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 1: a spot on the ninety man roster. You're taking that 238 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:05,679 Speaker 1: ninetieth spot and you're giving it to a guy who 239 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 1: you should just hire to be an assistant coach. Make 240 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 1: up a title for him if you want him in 241 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:12,079 Speaker 1: the building, if you want to give your friend a job, 242 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 1: do that. Don't give him one of the ninety spots 243 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:16,080 Speaker 1: where the guys are competing to be one of the 244 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 1: fifty three. I think what's going to happen is he'll 245 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:21,199 Speaker 1: end up on the practice squad and they will elevate 246 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 1: him on a regular basis to one of those two 247 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 1: extra spots where you can take practice squad guys and 248 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 1: make it a fifty five man roster and potentially potentially 249 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 1: end up, you know, dressing getting a gimmick play thrown 250 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 1: his way, catching a touchdown pass. Fans are happy, jerseys 251 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 1: are sold. I just think that you're not doing this 252 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 1: dance with Tim Tebow now unless you have plans for September, 253 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:47,440 Speaker 1: And I think urban Meyer has plans for September, or 254 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 1: he wouldn't be wasting this time on it. Now, why 255 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:58,079 Speaker 1: does Tim Tebow bring about anger? Well, look, yesterday people 256 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 1: immediately started to make the connection with Colin Kaepernick because 257 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 1: Kaepernick's been out four years, and right now, the strongest 258 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 1: argument for not giving Kaepernick a chance is he hasn't 259 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 1: played him four years. Where here's a guy who hasn't 260 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 1: played in eight years and he's going to change to 261 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 1: a position that he refused to play back when the 262 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:16,320 Speaker 1: quarterback things started to fizzle out for him. But it 263 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 1: occurred to me this is very simple. No one was 264 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 1: going to give her Tim Tebow a chance. Urban Meyers 265 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 1: the one coach who was going to sign Tim Tebow, 266 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 1: just like Jim Harbaugh is the one coach who would 267 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 1: sign Colin Kaepernick because he's been praising Kaepernick the last 268 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 1: four years. If Harbor ended up being the coach in Jacksonville, 269 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 1: maybe Kaepernick get an opportunity, but Tebow gets an opportunity 270 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 1: because it's the one coach who would give him one. 271 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 1: And I just think it's this idea, Dan that it 272 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 1: started with the baseball thing. For me, I had no 273 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 1: problem with him playing in the NFL. He was the 274 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 1: first round draft pick. Josh McDaniels rolled the dice and 275 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 1: it kind of worked. You know, he got to the playoffs. 276 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 1: I mean, horribly inaccurate figured away to win close games 277 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 1: from time to time. Magic will run in twenty eleven. 278 00:14:56,680 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 1: But you know, there's a certain point where you just 279 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 1: gotta you just gotta, you gotta move on and if 280 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 1: you don't move on, you're And I got no problem 281 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 1: with it. I'm a capitalist. The Mets thing was about 282 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 1: making money, and I feel like this thing's about making money. 283 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 1: So don't don't tell me it's about football when it's 284 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 1: about making money, because I think it's about Jacksonville Jerseys, tickets, 285 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 1: excitement and not about football. If I said Urban Meyer 286 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 1: is either going to be really good or really bad, 287 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 1: no middle ground, what would you take really bad? Just 288 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 1: because history tells us other than Jimmy Johnson. You know, 289 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 1: it seems like every few years there's a college coach 290 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 1: who comes to the NFL and he's gonna revolutionize the game, 291 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 1: and the media lines up to apply lips to his 292 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 1: buttocks in the event that he is Jimmy Johnson, right, Oh, whoaah, 293 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 1: this is gonna be great. Oh great, Joanna, Oh, he's 294 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 1: gonna be great. Chip Kelly, Oh, he's gonna be great. 295 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 1: He's gonna revolutionize the game. Nope, who's the other one? Yes, 296 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 1: Furrier saving I mean, they're all one after another. Here's 297 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 1: a guy, and I believe it when I see it. 298 00:15:57,840 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 1: If if you're gonna be Jimmy Johnson, you gotta prove 299 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 1: me you're a Johnson, And until then, there's only one 300 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 1: Jimmy Johnson. That's how I look at it. And I 301 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 1: feel like there's so many in our business that are 302 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 1: falling all over themselves to assume that this is the 303 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 1: next Vince Lombardi. It makes me inclined to go the 304 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 1: other way too. And we'll see, we'll see. It's it's 305 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 1: it's a hell of a laboratory experiment. And from the 306 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 1: Jaguars perspective, every other thing they've tried for the past 307 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 1: twenty years hasn't worked, so they may as well try this. 308 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 1: He's Mike Florial Pro Football Talk Live co host with 309 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 1: Chris Simms. I'm wondering if the commissioner can call the 310 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 1: Packers before they before they do the schedule release. If 311 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 1: you're running a league you like you have the Packers 312 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 1: opening weekend that twenty five slot that that's Fox's big game, 313 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 1: and the other game is Denver against the Giants, the 314 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 1: team mentioned as the landing spot for Aaron Rodgers if 315 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 1: he doesn't stay in Green Bay. Do you think the 316 00:16:57,480 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 1: commissioner calls teams, just the packers to inquire about certain 317 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 1: things like a situation like that, to help when they 318 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 1: release the schedule. Look, I don't know if the commissioner 319 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 1: sits down with a notepad and a to do list 320 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:14,920 Speaker 1: and I'm going to call Mark Murphy today and talk 321 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 1: about Aaron Rodgers. But I suspect they have ways of 322 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:23,360 Speaker 1: getting information. Whether it's three levels down, but they get 323 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:26,919 Speaker 1: the best information they can. What's going on here? What 324 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:29,720 Speaker 1: do you think is going to happen? They need that information. 325 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:32,359 Speaker 1: Packers Chief's biggest game of the year, potentially other than 326 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 1: Buccaneer's Patriots. You got to put that game late enough 327 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:36,640 Speaker 1: in the season. They can be flexed out of four 328 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:39,359 Speaker 1: twenty five or flexed out of Sunday Night Football if 329 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:41,200 Speaker 1: that's where it would end up. I mean, you don't 330 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:43,159 Speaker 1: want it to be locked into Monday night Football. You 331 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:44,640 Speaker 1: don't want it to be in a hard spot where 332 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:46,879 Speaker 1: you can't move it because you may or may not 333 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 1: have Aaron Rodgers. So I think there are ways to 334 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:53,199 Speaker 1: protect yourself against it. But yeah, how do you not 335 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 1: have those conversations when you have access to the individuals involved, 336 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:58,679 Speaker 1: and these are legitimate business considerations. Where are we going 337 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 1: to put these marquee games? Let's take away the Buccaneers 338 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 1: and the Cowboys. Give me the must C matchup in 339 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 1: Week one. Wow, Steelers Bills. I'm surprised that's a one 340 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:13,920 Speaker 1: o'clock game. I really am a couple of playoff teams 341 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:16,360 Speaker 1: from last year with a lot of continuity. I mean, 342 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:18,399 Speaker 1: with the Saints Packers, you know you're getting one new 343 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:22,159 Speaker 1: quarterback in New Orleans, whether it's Taysom Hell or Jamis Winston. 344 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:24,120 Speaker 1: It's not like Drew Brees is back. You got Ben 345 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:26,880 Speaker 1: Roethlisberger in what likely will be his final year, going 346 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:30,440 Speaker 1: to Buffalo to take on Josh Allen, the Steelers going 347 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:33,920 Speaker 1: all in, the Bills trying to rectify how their season ended. 348 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 1: I think that's the best game of Week one, and 349 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:38,360 Speaker 1: you could argue it's even better than Cowboys Bucks. Yeah, 350 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 1: but I think this might be because it's Buffalo and 351 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 1: they're at one o'clock that maybe Steelers. Of course they're 352 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:47,440 Speaker 1: a national draw. I don't know if the Buffalo Bills 353 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 1: are a national draw. If this game was in Pittsburgh, 354 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 1: then maybe it's a four twenty five game, But I 355 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:55,400 Speaker 1: don't know. It just feels like maybe Buffalo is still 356 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:58,680 Speaker 1: not graduated to that musty TV. What excites you more? 357 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 1: Steelers Bills or Ravens Stealers and the Bills. Yeah, but 358 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 1: now the Raiders new stadium. I think there's a sensitivity 359 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:10,199 Speaker 1: to letting these stadiums absolutely all year. This is the 360 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:12,199 Speaker 1: first time there's actually gonna be human beings other than 361 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 1: the players and the coaches and the officials in Allegiant Stadium. 362 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:18,639 Speaker 1: So it's got to have a prime spot. Kind of 363 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:22,399 Speaker 1: quiet on the Deshaun Watson front here, very quiet. What's that? 364 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:25,119 Speaker 1: What's that mean? It means that they're working on a 365 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:27,400 Speaker 1: settlement of the twenty two cases. It's the only it's 366 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 1: the only reasonable conclusion at this point. And look, it 367 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 1: was nearly three weeks ago where the lawyers were in 368 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:37,920 Speaker 1: court accusing the other parties each side of destroying evidence, 369 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:40,399 Speaker 1: and there were social media posts dan and there were 370 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:42,919 Speaker 1: press conferences, and it was ugly and it was nasty. 371 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 1: The plug doesn't mutually get pulled on those tactics in 372 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:50,160 Speaker 1: the court of public opinion unless there's something happening behind 373 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 1: the scenes, and if they can get these cases settled 374 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:55,719 Speaker 1: to the satisfaction of everyone involved, I think Deshaun Watson 375 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 1: gets traded. And I wrote last night that I think 376 00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 1: the two main destinations him would be the Dolphins or 377 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:02,640 Speaker 1: the Eagles. And I think the Eagles are a team 378 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:05,640 Speaker 1: that should never be discounted in this because they are 379 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:08,200 Speaker 1: desperate to get a franchise quarterback, and yes, they want 380 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:10,239 Speaker 1: to go all in with Jalen Hurts this year. But 381 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:13,440 Speaker 1: if Deshaun Watson, who's already proven himself, would fall into 382 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 1: their lapse, I think they would do it. I keep 383 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:20,879 Speaker 1: thinking the Washington football team. I think that's well. But 384 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 1: the only problem is we know what's happened off the 385 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 1: field with the Washington football team with cheerleaders, with the owner, 386 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 1: and I think that's a Molotov cocktail. If you bring 387 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:34,920 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson into a situation like that, even if you 388 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 1: make a great point and he's going to get suspended, 389 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:40,639 Speaker 1: even if he gets all these cases resolved today, you 390 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 1: can't not suspend him. With twenty two of these claims 391 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:46,880 Speaker 1: alleging sexual misconduct during massages. When Ben Roethlisberger served four 392 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 1: games in twenty ten with two allegations of sexual misconducts, 393 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:53,159 Speaker 1: so you can't look the other way. If you're the NFL, 394 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:55,119 Speaker 1: it's got to be a four or six game suspension. 395 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:57,399 Speaker 1: Some people have talked to around the teams, not the 396 00:20:57,480 --> 00:20:59,359 Speaker 1: league office, but the teams are thinking that's what it 397 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 1: would be. I don't think there's gonna be any hesitation 398 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:05,160 Speaker 1: to trade for him once these cases are resolved, because 399 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 1: if the cases aren't resolved, then what you're trading for 400 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 1: is a guy who's going to be on the commissioner 401 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 1: example list until the cases are resolved. You know there's 402 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 1: going to be a suspension. You assume there's going to 403 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 1: be one. You trade for him, he serves a suspension, 404 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:19,719 Speaker 1: and then he comes back by Halloween, and you've got 405 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 1: him for the rest of this year and more importantly, 406 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 1: for the rest of his career if you can keep 407 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 1: him happy and if you can work it out. From 408 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 1: a cap standpoint, here we are in the middle of May. 409 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:31,879 Speaker 1: If you were betting on Aaron Rodgers where he'll be 410 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:35,199 Speaker 1: in September. I think he's gonna find a way to 411 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 1: come back and act like what's everybody looking at? I mean, 412 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:41,359 Speaker 1: is there a booker I'm unaware of Why is everyone 413 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:42,920 Speaker 1: staring at me? Why is everyone want to ask me 414 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 1: all these questions? What's a big deal? I think he's 415 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:46,639 Speaker 1: gonna do that, Dan, We've seen him do that before. 416 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 1: You know, he'll light the fuse, he'll run away, and 417 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:54,439 Speaker 1: after the explosion he comes back and he chastises everyone 418 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:56,919 Speaker 1: for noticing the explosion. I think that's what he's gonna do, 419 00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 1: and he's gonna blame us, me, you, everyone who's made 420 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 1: a big deal about it, which is looking for clicks, 421 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:03,880 Speaker 1: We're looking for views, we're looking to make money off 422 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 1: of his name. When he knew damn well that he 423 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:09,399 Speaker 1: could have ended all of this with Tariko at the 424 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 1: Kentucky Derby two days into it, he had a chance 425 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:14,359 Speaker 1: to go on camera and say this is all over blown, 426 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 1: this is all fake, this is nothing. I'll be there. 427 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:18,359 Speaker 1: I think he's gonna find a way to come back 428 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:20,239 Speaker 1: because he's got no other options because I don't think 429 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 1: the packers at this point are going to trade him. 430 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 1: But does he enjoy this? I don't know. I don't know. 431 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 1: You know it's I see too, though, Mike. The dynamic 432 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 1: I see from players from time to time goes like this, Hey, everybody, 433 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:43,680 Speaker 1: look at me, What the hell are you looking? Right? Well, 434 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:47,119 Speaker 1: he can always retire and do Jeopardy. Thirty million dollars 435 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 1: to retire, Dan, No, I know when people seek all 436 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 1: of it back, yes, but when people say, oh, he'll 437 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:57,640 Speaker 1: retire and do Jeopardy, there's no given that he'll get 438 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:00,639 Speaker 1: to do Jeopardy, and they're not. I could pay him 439 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:03,680 Speaker 1: thirty million dollars. Peter King made a great point a 440 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:07,160 Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago. On one hand, Aaron Rodgers has 441 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 1: no hesitation at all to tell the world I want 442 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:14,120 Speaker 1: to be the host of Jeopardy. No nuance, no ambiguity, 443 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 1: no beautiful mystery, nothing. I want this job. As it 444 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 1: comes to his football career, he won't tell us a 445 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 1: damn thing. He's speaking in riddles and enigmas and clues 446 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:27,959 Speaker 1: and whispers and just tell us what you want, Aaron, 447 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:30,439 Speaker 1: what's so hard about telling people what you want when 448 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:32,440 Speaker 1: you've already proven that you have the capacity to well? 449 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 1: I said that to Chefty, like, come on, like Aaron 450 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 1: owes it to people, and then Cheft He's like, no, 451 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:40,680 Speaker 1: he doesn't. I go, yes, he does, Chef. He's getting 452 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 1: himself in line for the scoop of what happens next 453 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:46,399 Speaker 1: with Aaron. Dan, Come on, come on, Dan, Chef Cheft. 454 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:48,880 Speaker 1: He's taken every bullet he can for Aaron. That whole 455 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:55,200 Speaker 1: thing about that he's the one who bull crap. Rogers 456 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:58,679 Speaker 1: wanted that out there. Chefty took the bullet so that 457 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,880 Speaker 1: when the next move comes, Cheft he's the one who 458 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:04,679 Speaker 1: gets it. Rogers wanted that out there the day that 459 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:07,440 Speaker 1: it hit. Not that wasn't Chefty's sitting back working a chessboard. 460 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 1: That was Rogers working the chessboard that may have included 461 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 1: Chefty is one of the ponds. You should have Chefty 462 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 1: on your show. Okay, welcome anytime we tell it like 463 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 1: it is. Baby. I'm too old to give a crap anymore, Dan, 464 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:27,160 Speaker 1: life's too short to tiptoe and kiss ass and pretend 465 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 1: to play the game. Do you think you could take 466 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 1: Adam Schefter? Oh? I could take him. Oh, I could 467 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 1: take him. It's pretty good. I will only pick a 468 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 1: fight with people that I know that I could beat up, 469 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 1: really so, which is why I'd never pick a fight 470 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 1: with you. Absolutely absolutely, yes, that's right. Thing. It's height 471 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:48,120 Speaker 1: and reach. Yes, yes, Dan, it's already breaking this one 472 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:50,160 Speaker 1: down now. Florida was a good shape. He's got good 473 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:53,119 Speaker 1: size arms. They're sneaky, covers them up a lot. Chefter 474 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 1: is a thick guy. I don't know how athletic he 475 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:57,359 Speaker 1: is there if he could fight, but he he was 476 00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 1: a Northwestern guy, not the toughest school. Or just do 477 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 1: the tail of the tape. I'll show up anytime, any 478 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 1: place for the measurements, for the tail of the tape. 479 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:07,960 Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying. That's all I'm saying. Thank you, Bud, 480 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 1: Thank you man. That's Mike Florio, Pro Football Talk Live 481 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 1: co host. I'd watched that Florio v. Schefter. He doesn't 482 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:20,720 Speaker 1: say anything about Jake Glazer. He's not touch at all. No, no, no, no, 483 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:25,400 Speaker 1: Seaton learned that the hard way. Yes he did. You wrestled? 484 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 1: I threw that fight, did you? Yeah? Yeah, I heard that. 485 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 1: Jake Paul wants to fight you next after Is it 486 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 1: Logan Paul who's fighting Floyd Mayweather? And shouldn't Floyd fight 487 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:42,399 Speaker 1: both of these brothers? And't It's sad that boxing has 488 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 1: gotten to the point where it's gimmicky. Where we go? Um? 489 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:48,480 Speaker 1: How do we how do we uh you know, raise 490 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:51,400 Speaker 1: some awareness, get some publicity. How about you know some 491 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:55,640 Speaker 1: YouTube or TikTok guy is going to fight sort of 492 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:58,880 Speaker 1: Floyd May with Yeah, how about put both of them 493 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 1: in the ring against Floyd. Yeah. See, we were just 494 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:05,199 Speaker 1: sort of like sparring me and Jay Glazer and he 495 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 1: was just like, yeah, you know, like looks it's just 496 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,119 Speaker 1: to be something like this, and he play kicked me 497 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 1: in the thigh and one. It was some of the 498 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 1: most extreme pain. He'd play kicked me like just mess. 499 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 1: It was like the most extreme pain I read. I 500 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 1: had a massive bruise on me and he immediately swept 501 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 1: my legs out from under me, and he was just 502 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 1: like warming up like yeah, you know, like just something 503 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:26,640 Speaker 1: like this. Wabang went right down. Oh yeah, that's good. Okay. 504 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 1: He grabbed me and fourteen years ago in New York 505 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:34,119 Speaker 1: from behind with my neck, and my neck has not 506 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:37,160 Speaker 1: been the same. Like he was twisting it to get 507 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 1: me in some kind of arm barred some nonsense, and 508 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:42,640 Speaker 1: I was like, dude, stop a chokehold, get out of here, 509 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:47,119 Speaker 1: go get my bb gun. Thanks for listening to The 510 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,920 Speaker 1: Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to catch us live 511 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 1: every weekday morning nine until noon eastern six to nine 512 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 1: Pacific on Fox Sports. Radio, and you can find us 513 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 1: on the iHeartRadio app at FSR or stream us live 514 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:04,919 Speaker 1: on the Peacock app. Channing Fryk Turner's sports NBA analyst. 515 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 1: He won an NBA title twenty sixteen with the Cams 516 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 1: over Golden State, and Channing kind enough to join us. 517 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 1: All Right, so we know the best team you played on. 518 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:19,159 Speaker 1: What's the worst team you played on? Oh, that's a 519 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 1: great question. Maybe my rookie year, the two thousand and 520 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:26,200 Speaker 1: five Knicks. We had the highest salary in the NBA, 521 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 1: and I think we won twenty three games that year 522 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 1: with Larry Brown, that was, I mean, a dumpster fire. 523 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 1: It was hilarious. What's it like showing up knowing you're 524 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:39,480 Speaker 1: gonna lose? Oh, it wasn't that we were just gonna lose, 525 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:41,640 Speaker 1: because I've been on teams that were just too young 526 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 1: that we didn't get it. But it was still fun. 527 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 1: But it was just like Larry, we had the most 528 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:49,439 Speaker 1: starting lineups in the history of the NBA, and so 529 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 1: you didn't know if you were gonna start or not 530 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:55,400 Speaker 1: until forty minutes on the clock. So he would tell 531 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 1: the starting lineup and the vets. I didn't get it 532 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:00,920 Speaker 1: at that time, and now I probably do what they did. 533 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 1: It's like just blow up. They would literally he would 534 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:07,160 Speaker 1: write down who's going to start without telling anybody all 535 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:10,639 Speaker 1: day long. It was. It was pretty amazing now that 536 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:13,439 Speaker 1: I'm retired and now I'm not in NBA anymore. But 537 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 1: you have these fan bases. You had that with the Knicks, 538 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 1: but you're also with the Lakers prior to Lebron getting there. Yeah, 539 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 1: those fan bases when they turn on you like, oh, 540 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:26,400 Speaker 1: it's not fun, it's not fun. Which one was tougher though? 541 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 1: The Knicks are the Lakers. Oh, the Knicks not even close. 542 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:34,119 Speaker 1: The next fan base is the toughest. I was getting 543 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 1: booed at Applebee's. I'm like, I'm just here for the 544 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 1: endless ribling basket. I'm getting boot Oh damn man, you know. 545 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:50,479 Speaker 1: And I was heard the last sixty days boo, I'm 546 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,480 Speaker 1: in crutches, and then booing Me and David Lee We're like, 547 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 1: we're rookie, we don't control anything. It was if you 548 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 1: were going to explain Steph Curry to somebody who had 549 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 1: never seen him play, Oh, man, I would say, imagine 550 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 1: a guy that could show up on any court and 551 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 1: probably not be picked first, but that will never leave 552 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 1: the court because he's gonna win every single game. Like 553 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 1: he's he's not big, he's not extremely fast, he's not 554 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 1: extremely athletic. But yet he's two number one or two, 555 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 1: depending on how old you are, the most influential people 556 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:37,000 Speaker 1: person in the NBA in the last ten twenty years. Oh, 557 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 1: probably even more than that. I think he's more influential 558 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 1: from the playing aspect than Jordan. Than Jordan, I mean Jordan, 559 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 1: you know that that shadow is a big shadow. But 560 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 1: Steph gave hope to anybody who steps on the basketball. 561 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 1: Play one was Steph had success. You said, oh, man, 562 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 1: I could shoot from if I could just Steph's greatest 563 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 1: superpower is a skill, right, Like Steph is like iron Man, 564 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 1: Like he built himself, like you worked on that, and 565 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 1: he has his innatibility and he like shooting is something 566 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 1: that everyone can do, yet he does it so well. 567 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 1: We're used to his audacious numbers that what he's doing 568 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 1: is so ridiculous, Like he's doing James Harden numbers without 569 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 1: James Harden's. I mean, people underst me how good of 570 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 1: a score James Harden is. He's doing James Harden numbers 571 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 1: without James Harden one on ones because he's coming off pindowns, 572 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 1: he's coming off screens like it's amazing this year. And 573 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 1: I'm you know what, I'm just gonna sound wild. I'm 574 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 1: not glad that Clay got hurt, but I'm glad that 575 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 1: people get to see this. Steph Curry. Yeah, I don't 576 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 1: know if we would ever have seen this Steph Curry. 577 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 1: And I was you know, I said something at the 578 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 1: beginning of the year that Warrior's fans got mad. I said, 579 00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 1: if he doesn't take this team to the he's accomplish everything, 580 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 1: and if he doesn't take this team to the playoffs, 581 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:09,800 Speaker 1: just the playoffs, that would that would make me disappointed 582 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 1: because I know how good he is and he's far 583 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 1: exceeded that to now you have to put him top 584 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 1: fifteen all time as a player. What's it like now, 585 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,960 Speaker 1: you when you get switched out on him? Did you 586 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 1: ever get switched out on him? Yeah? Oh yeah, oh yeah. 587 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 1: It's the worst because the problem is he'll just throw 588 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 1: the ball to Draymond and then you have to chase him. 589 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 1: And it's not like he's gonna just James Harden you 590 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 1: or he's not gonna Kyrie. You, he's like, oh you're 591 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 1: my switch. Throw the ball to someone else. You don't. 592 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 1: You can't practice that. You can't practice verse going over 593 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 1: these screens. You can't stay in the body. He's too fast, 594 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 1: he's too he's too smart, and they set great screens, 595 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 1: and it's just like he's impossible to guard because he's 596 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,720 Speaker 1: okay without the ball. In a minute you turn your head, 597 00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 1: he's gone. Would you want to be a teammate of 598 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:04,800 Speaker 1: Rush of Westbrooks me as a shooter? Yes, oh yeah, 599 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:08,800 Speaker 1: oh yeah, well he doesn't he might not throw it 600 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 1: out to you as often as you think you're gonna 601 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:16,480 Speaker 1: get it there chanting, I mean, listen. Yeah, I definitely 602 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:20,960 Speaker 1: think that Russell Westbrook has gotten a lot better at 603 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:26,640 Speaker 1: creating opportunities for other people, especially on this Wizard team. 604 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 1: I think his triple doubles do equate to winning. But 605 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:34,680 Speaker 1: I also feel like any great player, you lean yourself 606 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:38,840 Speaker 1: towards their style of basketball, right It just you can't, 607 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:42,240 Speaker 1: like Steph can't go to New York and be get 608 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 1: fifty a game. Nobody's getting fifty on New York, even 609 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:48,239 Speaker 1: you know, Julius Randall is having a great year. But 610 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:49,959 Speaker 1: I don't know what his career high is this year, 611 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:53,760 Speaker 1: maybe thirty five. It's just a system. So his system 612 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:57,960 Speaker 1: that works is fast paced. You know, you gotta scoring 613 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:02,280 Speaker 1: to one, twenties, one thirties. Is he the second best 614 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 1: point guard of all time? Who is rush? No? Well, 615 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:10,880 Speaker 1: Scotty Brooks said that he's maybe. Scott Brooks said that, Okay, 616 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 1: I respect that, but now we not stop it. That's 617 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:18,400 Speaker 1: so disrespectful to either magic, John saw Isaiah's time. Magic 618 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 1: is one, Magic is one, Isaiah's two Magic is And 619 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:24,200 Speaker 1: now I had this conversation last night with one of 620 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 1: my old teammates. Magic is probably the last small guard 621 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:32,840 Speaker 1: to win multiple championships, truly small guard. That was your 622 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:37,520 Speaker 1: point guard, right? And I mean is? I said, Isaiah? 623 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:39,959 Speaker 1: Oh yeah you had magic? Because yeah, I say, had 624 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:44,040 Speaker 1: magic one Isaiah two. And then you know, depending on 625 00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:51,800 Speaker 1: how you view the point guard position, then maybe man, 626 00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:57,760 Speaker 1: well it's Steph Curry a point guard. I don't, I don't, 627 00:33:57,800 --> 00:33:59,959 Speaker 1: I don't think. To me, I think Draymond is at 628 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 1: point guard? To me, okay, is Russell? Would you rather 629 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:08,760 Speaker 1: have John Stockton or Russell Westbrook? Oh? John sucks? And stop? 630 00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 1: I played with Steve Nash. Would you rather have Nash 631 00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:20,640 Speaker 1: or Westbrook? Oh, I'm taking a sorry Nash, but it 632 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:24,480 Speaker 1: just that hurt. That hurt me saying it, But I 633 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:28,240 Speaker 1: hurt me. Say Paulie, let's bring in Steve Nash. Now, Steve, 634 00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:31,560 Speaker 1: you just heard. No, I wouldn't do that too. Oh man, 635 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:36,760 Speaker 1: I wouldn't do that too. You all right? So Lakers 636 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,279 Speaker 1: Warriors look like their own a collision course here in 637 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:42,400 Speaker 1: that playing tournament. I don't think they're worried about it, 638 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,920 Speaker 1: the Lakers about that. I don't think the Lakers are 639 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,080 Speaker 1: worried about it, and I don't think the Warriors are 640 00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:50,440 Speaker 1: worried about it because I don't think the Grizzlies or 641 00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:54,040 Speaker 1: the Spurs match up very well versus Warriors. Right I 642 00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,680 Speaker 1: think the if we are just to end the season 643 00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:58,799 Speaker 1: right now, I think that's how it would end. The 644 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 1: Lakers will be seven. I think they love that matchup 645 00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:06,040 Speaker 1: versus Suns, especially with a healthy Lebron and healthy Schroeder. 646 00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 1: And then I think the Warriors are like, I think 647 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:11,440 Speaker 1: we have a chance for its Utah. I think the 648 00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:18,400 Speaker 1: Warriors stylistically are Utah's bamed in Utah's existence. They switched 649 00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:20,640 Speaker 1: screening roll and so there are three things and that's 650 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:22,879 Speaker 1: why I was talking about it on TV the other day. 651 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:24,759 Speaker 1: There are three things team can do. You can play 652 00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:26,799 Speaker 1: one on one, you can run your system, or you 653 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:30,319 Speaker 1: could do screening. Roll right in Utah is the best 654 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:33,640 Speaker 1: screening role in system team in NBA. So they passed, 655 00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:37,680 Speaker 1: they moved, they cut. All that happens because teams can't switch, 656 00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:41,520 Speaker 1: but the Warriors are the best switching team in NBA, 657 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:44,880 Speaker 1: so they switched underneath. The last game you watched, Rudy 658 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,839 Speaker 1: Gobert had ten points, but like his ten points were 659 00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,759 Speaker 1: just I'm just bigger than everybody ten points. He had 660 00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:53,080 Speaker 1: no impact on the game pretty much. Why do you 661 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:55,439 Speaker 1: think Jordan Clarkson had to go one on one so much? 662 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:59,880 Speaker 1: Jordan Clarkson shooting thirty three shots is exactly what the 663 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:03,520 Speaker 1: Warriors want to do, right. But the problem is when 664 00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:06,759 Speaker 1: you add Mike Conley and you add Donovan Mitchell, now 665 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,520 Speaker 1: you have more ball handlers, but neither one of those guys. 666 00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:13,200 Speaker 1: So you would have Donovan Mitchell and Jordan Clarkson really 667 00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:16,040 Speaker 1: are your one on one guys, and you would say 668 00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:20,040 Speaker 1: I'll take my chances with Draymond Wiggins, Kelly Oubrey and 669 00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:23,279 Speaker 1: Jordan pool Camp base Moore. With those chances, now, I 670 00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:27,400 Speaker 1: think Utah would win that series. But I think Utah 671 00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:29,160 Speaker 1: or I think Golden State would give him a run 672 00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:31,719 Speaker 1: for their money. If I gave you the niche and 673 00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:33,839 Speaker 1: the Lakers or the rest of the field to win 674 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:39,520 Speaker 1: the championship. Man, first of all, I can't better get 675 00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:43,759 Speaker 1: Braun in the playoffs. I think he's too Yeah, he's 676 00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:46,920 Speaker 1: gotta be healthy like in ads, gonna be that's huge. 677 00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:49,480 Speaker 1: But I'll tell you this, Listen, if I've made as 678 00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:52,439 Speaker 1: much money as he was, I'm pretty sure he's pretty healthy. 679 00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:55,680 Speaker 1: If I know him, This dude gets twenty four hours 680 00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:59,080 Speaker 1: around the clock and this is not a joke, twenty 681 00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:02,799 Speaker 1: four hour around the clock care every time he has 682 00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:07,040 Speaker 1: an injury. So for him, they didn't have a long break. 683 00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:09,399 Speaker 1: A lot of guys are coming back and they're having 684 00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:12,239 Speaker 1: soft tissue injuries. So you've seen a lot of hamstring, 685 00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:14,640 Speaker 1: You've seen a lot of you know, this year has 686 00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:17,719 Speaker 1: been a weird year for them to be seven. I 687 00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,640 Speaker 1: don't think the Lakers give a crap as much as 688 00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:23,400 Speaker 1: everyone makes this. Have you been to Lebron's house me 689 00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:27,680 Speaker 1: his old house in Cleveland. Oh, she haven't been invited 690 00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:30,200 Speaker 1: to the al Ancron. No, no, I haven't. It's been COVID. 691 00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:32,799 Speaker 1: I haven't gone to La. I'm gonna go to this house. 692 00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:36,879 Speaker 1: I'm gonna raid his wine fridge defensive. I'll go right 693 00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:39,759 Speaker 1: to the fridge. What what was the mansion in? Was 694 00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:43,080 Speaker 1: it Akron? That? Yeah? Acron? What did it have in 695 00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:46,759 Speaker 1: that that I would be surprised him? I mean, have 696 00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:54,000 Speaker 1: you ever been to a Hilton? Looks like like, oh no, no, hey, 697 00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:57,319 Speaker 1: listen where I check in? They got a concierge there 698 00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:01,160 Speaker 1: for sure. Listen, we are everybody in the NBA. You 699 00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:02,919 Speaker 1: should take care of yourself. You get a big house. 700 00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:05,400 Speaker 1: I have a big house in Portland, Oregon. My house 701 00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:09,600 Speaker 1: looks like a shack compared to his house. I said, damn, 702 00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:11,480 Speaker 1: I said this one. It's like to be a billionaire 703 00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:15,120 Speaker 1: in the Okay, best best house you were ever in? 704 00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:21,719 Speaker 1: Best true? Grant Hill easily whoa Grant Hill lives in Orlando, Florida. 705 00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,959 Speaker 1: He has like a twenty five thousand square foot house 706 00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:28,399 Speaker 1: and it is like, I think Obama stays there when 707 00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:31,400 Speaker 1: they go to stuff in Orlando. He says that ile 708 00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:34,479 Speaker 1: worth the golf course he has like a tennis court. 709 00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:37,400 Speaker 1: You know, you got a tennis court. A pooh, he 710 00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,080 Speaker 1: got a wine room. He don't even be drinking wine 711 00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:42,680 Speaker 1: like that. You got expensive wines in there. I'm like, 712 00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:45,719 Speaker 1: you don't even drink wine. You got a couch in 713 00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:49,600 Speaker 1: his couch in his kitchen? Like what, who had a 714 00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:51,640 Speaker 1: club in their house? Did you ever go to somebody 715 00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:55,600 Speaker 1: who had a club? Never a club? Maybe Vince Carter 716 00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:58,839 Speaker 1: who has an equally as big house in the same 717 00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:02,440 Speaker 1: neighborhood and iowar So it was like Carter, Grant, Hill, 718 00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:04,760 Speaker 1: and Shack all live in the same neighborhood in Orlando. 719 00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:07,120 Speaker 1: Vince may have had a club in his house. His 720 00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:11,240 Speaker 1: house is like a house empty Hammer would own. But 721 00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:14,799 Speaker 1: but Shock's crib, I think he's selling it. But that 722 00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:20,000 Speaker 1: is That's an amazing Yeah, all in one neighborhood, all 723 00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:23,279 Speaker 1: in one neighborhood, all in Ioworth, and I end up 724 00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:25,640 Speaker 1: renting a house there in Orlando. It was It was 725 00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:30,560 Speaker 1: the best thing about Orlando other than that it was trash. 726 00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:34,759 Speaker 1: It was a horrible city. I don't know why Q 727 00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:36,799 Speaker 1: Rich and Vince and all of them love it. I'm 728 00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:48,439 Speaker 1: just like, yeah, Florida, Oh, man, And I do see 729 00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:51,080 Speaker 1: that shack bed that had the big as the Superman 730 00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:54,200 Speaker 1: on it. Yeah, listen, like, who's gonna buy Shack's house 731 00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:58,640 Speaker 1: because everything is to his size, isn't it. Somebody's gonna 732 00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:01,759 Speaker 1: buy it, like some oil toilets gotta be to his shuns, right, 733 00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:10,400 Speaker 1: Oh boy, he must be some dinosauricized toilet. Shack is 734 00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:14,480 Speaker 1: a big guy man, Shack like, I'm seven foot, well, 735 00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:17,319 Speaker 1: however many pounds and Shack makes me look tiny, and 736 00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:20,920 Speaker 1: I'm a big man. It Shack makes me look tiny. 737 00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:24,880 Speaker 1: But I thought that yeaow Ming made Shack look a 738 00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:29,120 Speaker 1: little more normal. Yell's head is so bad. Yeaw's head 739 00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:33,080 Speaker 1: is so big. Right. I remember I was on the 740 00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:36,799 Speaker 1: Portland Trailblazers and uh, you know, I really I was 741 00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:39,120 Speaker 1: playing on and off with Nate McMillan because you know, 742 00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:42,439 Speaker 1: the Marcus Aldres was bawling and then the playoffs say 743 00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:44,680 Speaker 1: like put me in on Shack or not Shock, but yeah, 744 00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:46,719 Speaker 1: and I was. I looked at the coach like what 745 00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:49,480 Speaker 1: am I gonna do with that? Like what am I 746 00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:52,239 Speaker 1: gonna do with this? And I'm seven foot and he 747 00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:54,359 Speaker 1: just turns around and shoots a jump over me. And 748 00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:57,080 Speaker 1: I look at the beach like that best Like that's 749 00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:59,520 Speaker 1: the best of guy. Like he outweighs me by one 750 00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:03,319 Speaker 1: hundred ounds. He is five inches taller than me. And 751 00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:05,880 Speaker 1: like he shoots the free throws for his team. He 752 00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:08,399 Speaker 1: shoots the technical free throws. Like, so a skill set 753 00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:11,080 Speaker 1: is super high. It's not like I can rattle him, 754 00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:13,680 Speaker 1: you know. So I'm just here to annoy him and 755 00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:16,239 Speaker 1: you know, do whatever. He's kind of head. That's the 756 00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:20,680 Speaker 1: signs of a microwave. Like, but he's the biggest guy 757 00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:25,000 Speaker 1: I've ever Mark Eaton was a big guy. Yeah, I've 758 00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,920 Speaker 1: seen him, but I think shacks or I mean, Yaw's 759 00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:34,000 Speaker 1: legs were like tables, tabletops. They were so big you 760 00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:36,480 Speaker 1: couldn't move him. I was just like pushing up against 761 00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:41,080 Speaker 1: the wall. I was yelling at my trainer, like we 762 00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:46,680 Speaker 1: need to get in a winner of this great appearance. Uh. 763 00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:49,680 Speaker 1: I hope you're doing well there with with Turner and 764 00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:52,920 Speaker 1: we appreciate having you on. No, awesome, this is great man, 765 00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:57,080 Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you chin. That's Channing Frying. Be sure 766 00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:59,600 Speaker 1: to catch the live edition of The Dan Patrick Show 767 00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:03,320 Speaker 1: weeks at nine am Eastern, six am Pacific on Fox 768 00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:05,760 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. In the iHeartRadio app,