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Speaker 1: Hi, everyone, Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com.

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Speaker 1: I am Mike Spofford, joint as always by my trusted

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Speaker 1: colleague West Hodkowitz. Were coming to you here from our

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Speaker 1: studios at lambeau Field. West Were another day closer to

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Speaker 1: Week fourteen, green Bay versus Washington Sunday noon Central time

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Speaker 1: kickoff at lambeau Field. Packers nine and three, the final

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Speaker 1: quarter of the regular season to go as they fight

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Speaker 1: for potentially an NFC North championship, a playoff birth, and

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Speaker 1: all of that good stuff. It's been a lot of

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Speaker 1: things swirling around in the media amongst fans, a lot

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Speaker 1: of discussion as to just what is the identity of

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Speaker 1: the two thousand nineteen Green Bay Packers. We've talked about

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Speaker 1: a little bit on this show. If there's any thing

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Speaker 1: I've said along those lines, I think it's that this

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Speaker 1: is a team that has proven more often than not

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Speaker 1: it's the better team in the fourth quarter, and that's

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Speaker 1: how it has won games. You look at defensively, they

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Speaker 1: get sacks, they pressure quarterbacks, they get turnovers. That's kind

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Speaker 1: of the identity on that side of the ball. Offensively,

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Speaker 1: we know this unit is at its best when the

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Speaker 1: ball goes through the running backs for the most part,

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Speaker 1: at least that's where it starts. Aaron Rodgers had a

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Speaker 1: very interesting answer to this question, I thought in his

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Speaker 1: post Wednesday practice media huddle at his locker, because he

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Speaker 1: was asked the identity question and he didn't really talk

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Speaker 1: about the playbook. The play calls the xs and os

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Speaker 1: on the field what somebody would see as this team's

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Speaker 1: identity on film when they study the two thousand nineteen

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Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers. His answer was very much rooted in

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Speaker 1: the locker room and in the culture and in the

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Speaker 1: chemistry of the team. I thought that was very interesting

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Speaker 1: because flat out he said he believes the identity of

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Speaker 1: this team is that is everybody embracing his role, a

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Speaker 1: role that has been handed down from the head coach,

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Speaker 1: from the general manager, of the way the roster has

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Speaker 1: been constructed. In all of that, I thought it was

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Speaker 1: a very interesting answer because it really, in a lot

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Speaker 1: of ways it had nothing to do with the identity

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Speaker 1: that people talk about in the in the film study sense.

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Speaker 1: Right in Matt Lafleur, when he was discussing this said too,

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Speaker 1: he's going to leave that identity identifying the identity up

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Speaker 1: to the media whatever you want to say their identity is.

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Speaker 1: That's well and good. The fact of the matter is

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Speaker 1: the Packers, without this identity that's you know, has a

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Speaker 1: title and a name and a description and a birthday,

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Speaker 1: they have been able to get to nine and three

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Speaker 1: at this point in Mike, for the first time in

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Speaker 1: two years, you and I are covering meaningful December football,

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Speaker 1: legitimately meaningful December football. So if you're nine and three,

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Speaker 1: if you've had the success that I don't think many

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Speaker 1: people expected the Packers to have this year, to be

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Speaker 1: at nine wins sitting in the first week of December,

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Speaker 1: do you have an identity? And Rogers tapped into something

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Speaker 1: that I've kind of been alluding to for most of

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Speaker 1: the season. It's one of the reasons I want to

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Speaker 1: track down Mercedes Lewis in the locker room this week

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Speaker 1: because so many times, Mike, it's like, Okay, there's Davantie Adams.

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Speaker 1: He needs to get hundred and eleven catches, he needs

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Speaker 1: to get yards and fifteen touchdowns, and that's the sign

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Speaker 1: of a healthy, productive offense and team. And the reality

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Speaker 1: is that isn't that isn't it? The reality is is

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Speaker 1: that you need guys like Mercedes Lewis and Jimmy Graham

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Speaker 1: who have been stars, have been Pro bowlers in other

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Speaker 1: locations that are in a different stage of their career

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Speaker 1: that are willing to accept the role that's handed to him.

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Speaker 1: You need Jamal Williams as a fourth round pick in

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Speaker 1: two thousand seventeen being the secondary option to the guy

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Speaker 1: that was taken around behind him. Aaron Jones that those

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Speaker 1: two became close friends in the relationship that they have.

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Speaker 1: That's special because so many times times it can be adversarial. Uh,

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Speaker 1: when you're when you're dealing with running backs and touches

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Speaker 1: money at stake when these guys go for second contracts

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Speaker 1: and all that kind of stuff. That's all part of

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Speaker 1: the business too. Yeah, and you look at the receiving court,

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Speaker 1: Yeah it is Davante Adams. But if Davante Adams has

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Speaker 1: these different guys that have stepped up in Geronimo Allison

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Speaker 1: in that conversation as well, that is the identity defensively,

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Speaker 1: it's the same situation when you look at Kyler Facral,

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Speaker 1: guy had ten and a half sacks last year. The

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Speaker 1: Packer signed two premier pass rushers in the off season,

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Speaker 1: So I mean for the Packers to be at this point,

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Speaker 1: with chemistry. Without chemistry, and more importantly, Mike, it's the

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Speaker 1: culture of that locker room right now that's helped him

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Speaker 1: get to this position. Yeah. I thought it was interesting because,

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Speaker 1: it was just very interesting how he mentioned guys the guy.

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Speaker 1: The names of guys that he rattled off, Marcedes Lewis,

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Speaker 1: Jimmy Graham, Jamal Williams, Geronimo Alison, Kyler Facral. You look

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Speaker 1: at you look at all of those guys. They have

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Speaker 1: all had bigger and better seasons in their NFL careers

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Speaker 1: than they're having right now, even Jamal Williams, because you

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Speaker 1: look back at Williams rookie season he had. He had

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Speaker 1: was getting it done. That's not his role this year.

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Speaker 1: Geronimo Allison, last year we talked about how he was

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Speaker 1: on pace for a thousand yards season before he got injured.

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Speaker 1: He's not having that kind of year this year. Kyler Faco,

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Speaker 1: you mentioned the double digit sacks. Marcedes Lewis and Jimmy

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Speaker 1: Bowl this year. Let's just be honest, right, They're not

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Speaker 1: having that type of individual season. But yet nobody's nobody's complaining,

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Speaker 1: nobody's barking. Everybody has accepted and the way Rogers described

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Speaker 1: the head coach saying, this is your role, this is

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Speaker 1: what we want you to do. So give it everything

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Speaker 1: that you've been that you've been handed And it's it

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Speaker 1: It's it's it's fostered a belief and a confidence and

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Speaker 1: this year too, because the Packers haven't, to this point

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Speaker 1: a lot of injuries. Would Geronimo Allison's roll be bigger

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Speaker 1: if you didn't have all these other secondary options? Would

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Speaker 1: season he's having, certainly, absolutely, And it can change like that.

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Speaker 1: So that's why it's important to stay in tune with

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Speaker 1: You have to be ready for all of that. You

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Speaker 1: of those things matters, matters to the locker room, matters

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Speaker 1: how these things go. Because if any of these guys,

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Speaker 1: And I just feel like that's the thing that stands

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Speaker 1: out to me about this your team. You don't have that.

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Speaker 1: You asked me for a Tremont Williams quote when you're

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Speaker 1: writing that story. Unfortunately I didn't have one for you

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Speaker 1: scrum on Wednesday, and I was hoping maybe he had

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Speaker 1: And it relates to what the importance is of showing

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Speaker 1: who's been a star in this league, been a pro

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Speaker 1: why it's important to Darius Smith talk about him changing

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Speaker 1: the culture, bringing in something new and energy, a passion,

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Speaker 1: and being able to bring everyone along for the ride. Whatever.

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Speaker 1: You don't want to make fun of the d train

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Speaker 1: or kind of laugh about it, that's off matters because

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Speaker 1: a super Bowl. It's getting back to a place where

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Speaker 1: they can contend every single year and have a locker room,

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Speaker 1: a coaching staff, and a culture that fits along with

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Speaker 1: they've also taken on leadership roles to a certain extent.

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Speaker 1: But also you see the leadership coming from those frontline

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Speaker 1: but he didn't say anything about that. And and what

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Speaker 1: When he was in Texas on Monday, and Tuesday being

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Speaker 1: a player's off day, he made his way back to

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Speaker 1: back for the funeral on Friday, then he'll fly back

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Speaker 1: to Green Bay. The jet leg, the emotions, all of that.

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Speaker 1: Mason Crosby, thirty five years young, potentially making an argument

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Speaker 1: But man, with what Crosby has done in the obstacles

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Speaker 1: he's had to overcome to get there. I just again,

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Speaker 1: the last thirteen years. Yeah, and you certainly can't discount

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Speaker 1: the value of the kicking game. As the Packers are

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Speaker 1: going to play back to back December home games before

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Speaker 1: they move indoors for weeks sixteen and seventeen Minnesota and Detroit.

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Speaker 1: But these, uh, these two outdoor games, Uh, the kicking

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Speaker 1: So I didn't even look at it. Might but I'm

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Speaker 1: trying to think like, so would he be would he

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Speaker 1: at this point because Venetaris Venetarian Guskowski's time has been together,

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Speaker 1: that's s been since oh six, right in Mason came

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Speaker 1: it's uh yeah, it's rare. Yeah, it's absolutely as well.

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