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Speaker 1: And Dan and Tie, welcome back to the solid verbal

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Speaker 2: I did marry into both so my wife obviously is

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Speaker 1: You are America, is what you're telling me. True.

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Speaker 1: It took the words out of my mouth, man, and.

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Speaker 1: So very freaking awesome four O eight verb one. Kudos

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Speaker 1: Look, I think you called it at the top right.

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Speaker 1: But you called it. You knew exactly what you were

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Speaker 1: But interestingly enough, I feel like we both were somewhat resolute,

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Speaker 2: We have a lot of games to get through, Ty,

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Speaker 2: It seemed everything you know. Oregon was down at starting center,

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Speaker 2: Everybody has injuries, everybody has setbacks, doesn't matter. There was

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Speaker 1: He's not the answer. Well, it's striking to me, if

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Speaker 1: For the bruin a for the braballers on. We could

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about Notre Dame. Cincinnati won twenty four to thirteen.

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Speaker 2: It most certainly is, and Cincinnati did, even with some

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Speaker 2: is they forced turnovers, they rushed the passer, they took

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Speaker 1: They're not great. That's okay, They're not great.

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Speaker 2: And as long as Brian Kelly is treating his quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: They did a few quarterback swaps in this game that

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it didn't didn't really fit together. I listened a

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Speaker 1: But a good win for Cincinnati. We don't have to

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Speaker 1: It was great. No very good players on Cincinnati's team. Okay,

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Speaker 2: Oh, I thought it was a perfect game plan, honestly, Yeah,

437
00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:11,520
Speaker 2: perfect game plan for what that team can do well.

438
00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:14,960
Speaker 2: And but Elliott underscored this. You'll I'll let you take

439
00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:17,679
Speaker 2: over in a second, but just he went into the

440
00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:20,760
Speaker 2: actual data and the numbers and formulas and found that

441
00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:23,879
Speaker 2: on every single one of those occasions, going forward on

442
00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:27,200
Speaker 2: fourth down gave Olemiss a better chance of winning the game. Yeah,

443
00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:30,280
Speaker 2: and so I don't fault Lane Kiffin at all for

444
00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:33,879
Speaker 2: that that approach, but it'll get you blown out more often,

445
00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:37,760
Speaker 2: but it'll you know, his his words, where you avoid

446
00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:42,359
Speaker 2: losing close like punting would have had Ole Miss losing closer,

447
00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:44,520
Speaker 2: which is no better than what you know, A loss

448
00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:46,680
Speaker 2: is a loss. So no, I had no problem with

449
00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:48,840
Speaker 2: the game plan, especially with how quickly they came out and.

450
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Speaker 1: They still almost covered this still almost covered they were

451
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,239
Speaker 1: that's worth yeah, yeah, for whatever that's worth. They were

452
00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,360
Speaker 1: down in a pretty serious hole and they came back

453
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Speaker 1: to lose forty two to twenty one points. Spread was

454
00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:02,359
Speaker 1: fourteen and a half at kick. So, look, I admire

455
00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:04,520
Speaker 1: the game plan. There's only so much you can say

456
00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:08,480
Speaker 1: about Alabama at this point, the showing that they put

457
00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:11,800
Speaker 1: out there on defense was nothing short of impressive. Ole

458
00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:14,000
Speaker 1: Miss might be one of the top five offenses in

459
00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,760
Speaker 1: the country. So for Bama to go out there and

460
00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:19,159
Speaker 1: basically shut him down the way that they did and

461
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:21,840
Speaker 1: really only give up points when they let off the gas,

462
00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:26,160
Speaker 1: it's damn impressive. We're out of superlatives. I agree with you.

463
00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:28,640
Speaker 1: If you're laying and you're trying to win the game,

464
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:30,399
Speaker 1: you got to leave it all out in the field.

465
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Speaker 1: And I don't think anybody can fault him for that.

466
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Speaker 1: He referenced the analytics in his postgame compent comments. He said, it,

467
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Speaker 1: that's the analytics. I was playing the numbers hit Sometimes

468
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:43,320
Speaker 1: you win, some time to lose. So forty two twenty

469
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Speaker 1: one I was nothing short of stun the way that

470
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Speaker 1: Alabama held down this ole Miss offense. And I think

471
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Speaker 1: it's just a further testament to the fact that Alabama

472
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Speaker 1: is maybe maybe a little bit more vulnerable than they've

473
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Speaker 1: been in recent ears. But even that is not all

474
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,560
Speaker 1: that vulnerable. They're still damn good. The number one team

475
00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:05,359
Speaker 1: in the country for a reason.

476
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Speaker 2: Thankfully, Alabama does not have killers at receiver in the

477
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Speaker 2: way that they did these past whatever two or three

478
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:14,600
Speaker 2: years that they merely have really good players who don't

479
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:18,200
Speaker 2: aren't quite at the calibers as where the Tide have been.

480
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:20,160
Speaker 2: But no smart play calling from bell O'Brien. Ole Miss

481
00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:23,160
Speaker 2: was dropping a ton into coverage and they just ran

482
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:25,840
Speaker 2: and ran and ran, and Bryce Young made plays. Was

483
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:30,080
Speaker 2: protected so admirably, you know, shocker from this Alabama offensive line,

484
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:32,320
Speaker 2: and like I mentioned, Will Anderson making plays up front

485
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:36,199
Speaker 2: and just completely harassing Ole Miss there. And look, Ole

486
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:37,959
Speaker 2: Miss is gonna be fine. They're gonna be an entertaining year.

487
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:41,640
Speaker 2: They're gonna win games. But no, this is it was.

488
00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:44,240
Speaker 2: It was not meant to be with the ability from

489
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Speaker 2: snap to snap and basically how mistake free Alabama played,

490
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Speaker 2: it just wasn't happening.

491
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Speaker 4: No.

492
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Speaker 1: The only bit of news on the Alabama side that

493
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:59,000
Speaker 1: was discouraging Jace McClellan saw that talented running back injured

494
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:02,720
Speaker 1: his knee be out for quote a while per yeah

495
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:07,159
Speaker 1: Nick Saban monitor that Julia billings Lee back and a

496
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:10,640
Speaker 1: weapon like you know, it's the universe evening out. Hopefully

497
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 1: McClellan heels up and is okay. In other SEC action,

498
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 1: guess who just got Kings of Texas.

499
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:27,240
Speaker 2: Huh, look, Ty, I appreciate the opportunity. I do, but

500
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 2: at least they weren't my lock of the week, which

501
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,400
Speaker 2: was another team who was your lock.

502
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:32,960
Speaker 1: We'll get to that.

503
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:37,679
Speaker 2: Oh, Maryland, Maryland, that's right, you know. I try to

504
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:41,400
Speaker 2: build the altar of Dan brick by brick, and sometimes

505
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 2: you get some faulty materials sometimes.

506
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Speaker 1: Yeah, materials have been hard to come by through the pandemic,

507
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:53,840
Speaker 1: so that's true. Yeah, continue, thirty seven to nothing. Georgia wins.

508
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:59,080
Speaker 1: This one was equally as ugly, maybe uglier than that

509
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:04,359
Speaker 1: Alabama game. The so called Kings of Texas just got

510
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 1: destroyed here. One hundred and sixty two yards of offense,

511
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 1: zero turnovers, but thirteen penalties for one hundred and one yards,

512
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 1: which is not a good way to win. And Georgia

513
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 1: did all this playing stetson Bennett and having him throw

514
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 1: the football only I think eleven times.

515
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:26,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, something nice passed to I think it was Kenny

516
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:30,679
Speaker 2: McIntosh up the sideline, set up something nice. But didn't

517
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 2: really need stets and Bennett to win this game at all.

518
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 4: Now.

519
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:35,359
Speaker 1: JT. Daniels was out with a lat injury, so it

520
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 1: was Stets and Bennett. It didn't matter who was quarterback.

521
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 1: Because Georgia gave five different running backs a total fifty

522
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:46,360
Speaker 1: three touches and it was used to great avail. Bennett

523
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 1: only had seventy two yards passing whatever. It was not

524
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:51,880
Speaker 1: a passing game. Georgia knew what it was in this game.

525
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 1: They knew they could run, they knew they could win

526
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 1: with the run, and they bottled up Arkansas. This was

527
00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 1: not the kind of game that was really much in doubt.

528
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 1: Beyond the second quarter, you just sort of could sense

529
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 1: the way things were going. Arkansas was trying everything it could,

530
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 1: but the Georgia defense was really just a cut above.

531
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Speaker 1: And we are now at the spot where the college

532
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 1: football world around Alabama and Georgia it's like they're in

533
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:22,879
Speaker 1: a gravitational bubble dam. The world around them is crumbling.

534
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 1: There's mass chaos outside of that top two. But it

535
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 1: does seem as if the top two would be a

536
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 1: great year for the BCS because the top two is

537
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:35,440
Speaker 1: really rock solid. I mean, I would include Wake in

538
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 1: the conversation, right, sure, we're Wake watchers here, The Undefeated

539
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 1: Street continues, You're absolutely correct. It's very difficult to find

540
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 1: that third or fourth team that you'll say, especially that

541
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:50,720
Speaker 1: Ole Miss is not that team with you know, just

542
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 1: the level of quarterback play. There is quite literally nobody

543
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 1: who appears to be a threat to especially those two defenses.

544
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 1: You know, Stranger things have happened. Maybe Florida, Maybe Florida

545
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:09,239
Speaker 1: May after about Florida next, but maybe Florida. I don't know.

546
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, It's it's difficult to actually assemble. I'm not going

547
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 2: to play the home depot song once again. It's difficult

548
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 2: to look at a squad and assemble away in which

549
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 2: a team could say, Okay, if this happens, and then

550
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 2: this happens, and then there's a good matchup here. That's

551
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 2: you know, take your pick of undefeated teams, take your

552
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 2: pick of one loss teams, you know, Michigan, Michigan like

553
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 2: Pence Ohaus, No, not right now, not right now.

554
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well look Arkansas, Arkansas to get into this game

555
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 1: as an undefeated team, to have Herbie and Fowler on

556
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 1: the call, yeah, in Athens, like, given the depths of

557
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 1: this program just a few short years ago, the fact

558
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 1: that they are here, now that they had gotten into

559
00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 1: the top ten going into this game, it's not law

560
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 1: on any of us. I mean, it's a huge accomplishment

561
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 1: for Sam Pittman, and they have nothing but the world

562
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 1: in front of them. It's been a really good season

563
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 1: for Arkansas so far. It's not over yet. The schedule

564
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 1: is tough. They will probably drop one or two more

565
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 1: or maybe more than that the rest of the way.

566
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 1: But the fact that they got into this game with

567
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 1: such a veil is I think incredibly encouraging for the

568
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 1: future of this program. And Sam Pittman's doing a hell

569
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 1: of a job. Just ran into a buzzsaw. It's ty.

570
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 2: It's wild to say in October that outside of Alabama,

571
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 2: there's no obvious, obvious, for sure loss for Arkansas, no

572
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 2: moving light. It's all miss Auburn, Mississippi State, LSU, and

573
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 2: missoo like those are all win a bull games if

574
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 2: certain things can happen appropriately.

575
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 1: That's all the other games here. I'll mention these very

576
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 1: quickly and then we can circle back and pull out

577
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 1: the things that were relevant to us. Kentucky takes it

578
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 1: to Florida twenty to thirteen. That was a big win

579
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:02,960
Speaker 1: for the Cats. We had Auburn. I talked about this

580
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 1: game a little bit earlier, if only anecdotally. Auburn wins

581
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 1: at LSU. They snapped their ten game losing streak at

582
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 1: Tiger Stadium, winning twenty four to nineteen. A big game

583
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 1: from Boknix. We'll talk about that. Mississippi State twenty six,

584
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 1: Texas A and M twenty two. Vandy kicks a thirty one

585
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 1: yard field goal to give the Huskies their fifth loss

586
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 1: of the season over the Yukon Huskies. Tennessee was sixty

587
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 1: two in a big win over Miszoo sixty two to

588
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 1: twenty four, and South Carolina broken offense year one, Shane

589
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 1: Beamer broken offense yep, but twenty three to fourteen over Troy.

590
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 1: Why don't we circle back to that Florida game, Dan Yes,

591
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 1: twenty to thirteen. How do you feel about that game?

592
00:31:55,480 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 2: Especially sloppy in every facet for Florida. I mean the

593
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 2: fact that the penalties were what they were trying to

594
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 2: win a game entirely with Emery Jones both through the

595
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 2: air and on the ground. It's just it's going to

596
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 2: be difficult against at least a decent enough defense, which

597
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 2: is what I believe Kentucky to have, and Kentucky through

598
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 2: forcing turnovers and taking advantage short fields and utilizing Wandale

599
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 2: Robinson who whose electricity could power my house? Just that

600
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 2: screen touchdown alone was so fun to watch. They watch

601
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 2: it over and over again. Chris Rodriguez made plays and look,

602
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 2: will Levis say what you will, he's back day lose

603
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 2: Kentucky the game against a top ten Florida team, and

604
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 2: so a great, great win for Kentucky and Florida. A

605
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 2: lot of a lot of soul searching in terms of

606
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 2: what they can and can't do on offense, a lot

607
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 2: to clean up, and you know, the defense essentially did

608
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 2: enough to win this game, but they just they didn't

609
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 2: have it on offense. They've just full on didn't.

610
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 1: I mentioned the game that both Knicks had got bench

611
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 1: was like a week ago, two weeks ago. Time flies

612
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 1: here in the last season. But talk about being a

613
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 1: freaking legend in this game. Two five through the air,

614
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 1: seventy four on the ground, he just found a different gear.

615
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 1: He was the reason they won. Their defense got better

616
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 1: as the game wore on. At one point they were

617
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 1: now in thirteen to nothing. I think early in this

618
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 1: game it's tough to go on the road at night.

619
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 1: And TJ. TJ.

620
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 2: Finley got into the game too. This was not a

621
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 2: We're fully confident in bo Nicks's abilities to begin this game.

622
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, now, but bo Nicks found another level and was

623
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 1: clearly able to elevate Auburn here to a really nice

624
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 1: win on the road again, snapping a ten game losing

625
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 1: streak which had really been a thorn in their side

626
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 1: for quite some time. LSU now maybe trying to do

627
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 1: some soul searching nineteen points against a good defense, but

628
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 1: team came this kind of talent.

629
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 2: Came out of the gate super impressively, especially Keisham Boutet

630
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 2: like just an incredible receiver. Max Johnson is fine the

631
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 2: LSU offensive line. LSU's ability to finish drives LSU's ability

632
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:17,719
Speaker 2: to tackle bo Nicks, LSU's ability to close games. You

633
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:19,440
Speaker 2: know they they what do they have? The thirteen to

634
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:20,760
Speaker 2: nothing lead pretty quickly.

635
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 1: Yeah.

636
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 2: LSU's fall off from two years ago is I mean,

637
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:30,760
Speaker 2: I know they lost a ton after that national championship

638
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:35,840
Speaker 2: winning season, but incredible, unexpected a twist to me just

639
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 2: because of the talent LSHU has currently and will always

640
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,759
Speaker 2: have the instate talent and for Auburn to come out

641
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:44,919
Speaker 2: as impressively for bon Nicks, I know, the stat line

642
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 2: isn't going to sing his praises, but the escapability and

643
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 2: the playmaking ability across that offense and an offense that

644
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 2: hasn't been great. But Jarquiz Hunter, like like Tank Bixby,

645
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 2: didn't do much. Bonnicks will this team. He did to

646
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 2: the finish line and LSU far far, far sloppier than

647
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:09,719
Speaker 2: they should be this far into ed Ogin.

648
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 1: I agree. I agree, it's a problem. The offensive line

649
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:16,839
Speaker 1: is kind of a nightmare. Final point here in the

650
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 1: sec before we jump over to the big ten. Yeah,

651
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:26,760
Speaker 1: bigger story for you. A and M losing again looking

652
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:33,840
Speaker 1: sort of lost on offense or Tennessee exploding in the

653
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 1: manner that they did offensively six hundred and eighty three

654
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:40,799
Speaker 1: yards sixty two points. This was forty five to ten

655
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:45,799
Speaker 1: a half. It's a good story. I think the A

656
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 1: and M one has a little bit more prominence given

657
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 1: what we expected out of A and M. But as

658
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 1: we texted back and forth a little bit yesterday, Tennessee

659
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 1: is at least interesting adjacent, right.

660
00:35:56,560 --> 00:36:00,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was my phrasing. That's right, Yeah, I mean

661
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:02,880
Speaker 2: Miszoom might be really bad.

662
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:07,279
Speaker 1: Zoom switched their defense for this game. They switched their

663
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:09,799
Speaker 1: defense for this game, they were playing something else. They

664
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 1: decided going into this game they're gonna play A three

665
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 1: three five instead, did not wait.

666
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:21,359
Speaker 2: Hendon Hooker looked great, The running game tie On looked great. Yeah,

667
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:25,360
Speaker 2: Miszoo's not good and Tennessee is interesting adjacent. I'd like

668
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 2: to see them continue to do this against clearly lesser teams.

669
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:34,279
Speaker 2: But the growth from Tennessee is impressive thus far that

670
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 2: they're they're fighting. They nearly bit nearly beat Pitt, which

671
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 2: looks like, again that's competitive adjacent. But no, I came

672
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:45,799
Speaker 2: away very impressed by the strides in year one that

673
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 2: Tennessee looks to be taking. And as far as A

674
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,360
Speaker 2: and M, that was a winnable game. That was absolutely

675
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 2: a winnable game. Now they're playing with a backup quarterback

676
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 2: who was limited, and you have the safety at the

677
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 2: end of things, and they seem to be leaning on

678
00:36:57,560 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 2: the run a bit more, which was you know, it's

679
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 2: what Andy Stables talked about. A chain was making plays. Yeah,

680
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 2: but Mississippi State made plays. Will Rogers was nearly perfect.

681
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 2: I mean, I know he throws the ball sixty times

682
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:12,759
Speaker 2: or whatever that's the offense, but he was dealing. He

683
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 2: made some incredible throws, spread the ball out really really well,

684
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 2: and you know I came away. Good for Mississippi State

685
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 2: to go on the road. That was in College Station, right, yep, yep.

686
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 2: Winnable game for A and M, but ultimately Mississippi State

687
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 2: hanging on and making plays on both sides of the ball.

688
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:32,440
Speaker 2: I'm still high on State. I don't know why, but

689
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:36,319
Speaker 2: I still am so Yeah, A and M struggling. I

690
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 2: saw somebody posted that like Jimbo and Someone's record are

691
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 2: the same.

692
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 1: Through forty I don't know.

693
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 2: I don't think you can lose that game if you're

694
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 2: A and M at home with the game in the grass.

695
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 2: It just I don't know. It feels like a lost

696
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:54,880
Speaker 2: opportunity and probably now a lost season for the Aggies.

697
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 1: Yeah. Not getting much out of the passing game was

698
00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 1: Zach Calzada.

699
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:01,840
Speaker 2: He did make plays though, came on at times for sure,

700
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 2: made like legit SEC starter plays, but just too far.

701
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:09,239
Speaker 1: It's just not to consistent. It's not consistent. All right,

702
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 1: let's jump over the big ten. Let me read off

703
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:15,279
Speaker 1: the scores, and then we'll circle back here. Michigan thirty eight,

704
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 1: Wisconsin seventeen, Penn State blanks Indiana twenty four to nil.

705
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:25,400
Speaker 1: Iowa rolls one up on Maryland fifty one to fourteen.

706
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 1: Ohio State fifty two to thirteen over Rutgers, Nebraska fifty

707
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 1: six to seven, six hundred and fifty seven total yards

708
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 1: in a win over Northwestern Michigan State. Not much defense

709
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 1: in this one, but forty eight two, No, it's fine,

710
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:45,399
Speaker 1: thirty one. They were up forty two to sixteen at half.

711
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 1: Ran away with that one. Minnesota knocks off Purdue and

712
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 1: Illinois beats Charlotte by ten. Where do you want to start?

713
00:38:56,320 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 1: I guess Michigan, Wisconsin, Right, Michigan, Wisconsin. It was giving

714
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:03,839
Speaker 1: me flashbacks to Notre Dame, Wisconsin a little bit. Sure,

715
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:07,400
Speaker 1: I'm sure close for a while and sort of broke open.

716
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 1: Michigan tweaked their strategy a little bit coming into this game.

717
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:14,440
Speaker 1: They were running at about a seventy four percent clip,

718
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 1: and if you go back and listen to some of

719
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:20,440
Speaker 1: what Harbaugh said postgame, they really wanted to be a

720
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:24,879
Speaker 1: little bit more balanced. This is more sixty forty and

721
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 1: Cad McNamara threw it twenty eight times, which was I

722
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 1: believe the most he's thrown it all season. He looked

723
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 1: pretty good. He's been very careful with the football. I

724
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:34,399
Speaker 1: know that's one of the things that they like about him.

725
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:36,840
Speaker 1: There may be a ceiling there, but he just doesn't

726
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 1: turn the ball over, which is definitely useful. He didn't

727
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 1: last year. He doesn't have any picks so far this

728
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 1: season either. Great so the offense. We can talk about

729
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 1: the Michigan offense, but I think performing at a pretty

730
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 1: good level on the Wisconsin side. Just another tough one

731
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 1: for their offense. Man I tad insult to injury. Both

732
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 1: Graham Mertz and Jake Ferguson went down. Mertz had to

733
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 1: go to the hospital for obs. Thankfully he was released.

734
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:05,319
Speaker 1: Jake Ferguson also got hurt in the third quarter. I

735
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 1: haven't seen much in the way of an update as

736
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 1: to how long he'll be out, if at all, but

737
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 1: just no running back had over nineteen yards on the

738
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 1: ground for Wisconsin. I'm looking at this in real time.

739
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 1: I'm watching the game on one screen, I'm looking at

740
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 1: the box score on another, and I'm trying to remember

741
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 1: back to a time when Wisconsin had this much trouble

742
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:29,920
Speaker 1: running the football. And Week one we saw the game

743
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 1: against Penn State. We thought you know, maybe Molusy would

744
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 1: give him that burst, but that has not really worked

745
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 1: out over the last couple of weeks. And we saw

746
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 1: a little bit of jalen Berger in this game, and

747
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 1: I like jalen Berger, but again, just the numbers aren't

748
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:46,240
Speaker 1: there in a way that it's giving them the production

749
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 1: that they need to take this offense to another level.

750
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 1: Wisconsin now in a very precarious spot. Then they've lost

751
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:55,280
Speaker 1: eight of their last thirteen games. This is their eighth

752
00:40:55,440 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 1: straight loss to a ranked team, so they definitely speaking

753
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 1: of soul searching. Yeah, have some work to do to

754
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 1: figure out the state of their offense. The defense, for

755
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 1: its part, is I think still performing very admirably. They

756
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 1: just can't do it all. They need some support on

757
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 1: the offensive side, and eventually Michigan just leaned on them

758
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:17,880
Speaker 1: until they fell over and they got their thirty eight points.

759
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 1: So great win for Michigan on the road man.

760
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, basically in every phase Michigan was impressive.

761
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 2: They protected Cad McNamara. You mentioned the lack of turnovers

762
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 2: in the passing game for Michigan, but Wisconsin was not

763
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:32,319
Speaker 2: able to get home on Cad McNamara like they were

764
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 2: in a losing effort against Notre Dame last week, so

765
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:38,720
Speaker 2: that speaks well of the development upfront for Michigan. Michigan

766
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 2: didn't do anything really on the ground offensively, but we

767
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 2: saw the ability to take advantage of mistakes and shorter fields.

768
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 2: And Wisconsin's offense is not being able to do anything.

769
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:51,800
Speaker 2: It just it hangs their own defense out to dry

770
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 2: and eventually, you know the cracks are going to form,

771
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:58,880
Speaker 2: and you know, Michigan took advantage like good teams do.

772
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:02,240
Speaker 2: It's been a a pleasant surprise to me the steps

773
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:04,319
Speaker 2: that Michigan has taken on both sides of the ball now,

774
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 2: especially on defense. Right, they played Wisconsin as a good

775
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 2: defense should we saw on offense. JJ McCarthy come in

776
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:14,319
Speaker 2: from Michigan like you just it's this is the brick

777
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:15,360
Speaker 2: by brick performance?

778
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:15,919
Speaker 1: Is that right?

779
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 4: You?

780
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 1: By the way talk about well, by the way, Joel

781
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 1: Klatt likes brick by brick. Oh, Joel loves brick by brick.

782
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:24,879
Speaker 1: Oh my god, you love that one. JJ McCarthy pass,

783
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:25,279
Speaker 1: didn't you?

784
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:29,279
Speaker 2: I mean it just it's tantalizing for a school that

785
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:33,360
Speaker 2: hasn't had look. I as a Michigan man myself, Marrigan

786
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 2: to a Michigan family, of course.

787
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 4: Now.

788
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:39,360
Speaker 2: I mean it's it's tantalizing to see a more complete

789
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 2: and a more explosive Michigan offense paired with a defense.

790
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:44,360
Speaker 2: Aiden Hutchinson may have been the best player on the

791
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 2: field yesterday. That's just there is there's a lot to like,

792
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:50,840
Speaker 2: maybe not love, but like moving forward because Wisconsin is

793
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 2: a deeply flawed team, and it's just still very strange

794
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 2: to see a Wisconsin team struggling right out of the gate.

795
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 2: This is when we're talking scripted plays, we're talking game plan,

796
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:01,840
Speaker 2: we're talking Okay, Michigan to adjust to X and Y,

797
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 2: and Wisconsin just doesn't make teams do that. No, the

798
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 2: offense seems and I don't think it's fully on Graham Mertz.

799
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 2: I don't think it's fully on the offensive line. I

800
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 2: don't think it's fully on the coaches. I just think

801
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:18,760
Speaker 2: there's flaws all around right now, and Wisconsin is bad

802
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 2: at fixing, is bad at figuring it out, and it's

803
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 2: it's not going to be a twenty twenty one thing.

804
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 2: I don't you know. I presume Wisconsin is going to

805
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 2: get a lot better quickly. I don't know how exactly,

806
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 2: but there's just too much infrastructure there for them to

807
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 2: just now be a bad team. So great win for Michigan, absolutely,

808
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 2: great win on the road, the first time this is

809
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:45,839
Speaker 2: going to be, this is sprayed everywhere already, the first

810
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:48,320
Speaker 2: time Michigan has won as an underdog under Jim Harbor,

811
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 2: the first time they've won in Camp Randall since two

812
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 2: thousand and one. Ty, what were you doing in two

813
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 2: thousand and one?

814
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:54,839
Speaker 1: Who the hell knows? I was gone.

815
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 2: It's been at your job for only five ten years. Yeah,

816
00:43:57,840 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 2: I don't know, a serious stage job.

817
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:01,720
Speaker 1: Yeah. Uh well, good for them.

818
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 2: Nice step forward, and Michigan should be undefeat. I mean

819
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 2: it's Nebraska who look better, we can get to that

820
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:10,720
Speaker 2: in a minute. In Northwestern, who looks like bottom dweller

821
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:14,239
Speaker 2: right now. In the Big Ten. It should very well

822
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 2: be a seven and oer Michigan team against State against State.

823
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:19,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, the schedule does toughen up the last five weeks

824
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:23,320
Speaker 1: of the season totally, but they're going to be I

825
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:26,839
Speaker 1: would presume a top ten team when the new AP

826
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:29,479
Speaker 1: pole comes out, given the losses that occurred in front

827
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 1: of them. Maybe right on the fringes of it, but

828
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:35,359
Speaker 1: Michigan's going to be there before long.

829
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 2: Michigan is not a really good team, but they're winning games,

830
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 2: which they are the winning games, and that stands for something.

831
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 2: Speaking of which, Speaking of which, let's talk about Iowa

832
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 2: and Penn State. Iowa and Penn State are now on

833
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:52,479
Speaker 2: a collision course. Penn State's going to be three, Iowa

834
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 2: was going to be four in the newest a people

835
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:55,880
Speaker 2: whenever that comes out.

836
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 1: Iowa. The game on Friday night was a freaking car crash.

837
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 1: The game was a car crash, especially in the second quarter.

838
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 1: What a horrible turn of events for Maryland. Everything that

839
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:10,239
Speaker 1: could go wrong did. They had seven turnovers, they had

840
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:13,800
Speaker 1: ten penalties, they had Dante Demis go down with an injury.

841
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:16,760
Speaker 1: He'd be carted off his leg with like a noodle.

842
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 1: Fox conveniently showed it from about eight different angles. Thank

843
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:25,719
Speaker 1: you for doing that. But despite the fact that it

844
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:29,399
Speaker 1: was a disappointing showing for Maryland on a Friday night

845
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 1: at home with everybody fired up, it was a really

846
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:34,839
Speaker 1: emphatic statement to go on the road against a team

847
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:37,880
Speaker 1: that I still think is pretty good, and when fifty

848
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 1: one to fourteen in the manner that they did a

849
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 1: lot of that was gift wrapped by Maryland, but there

850
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 1: is something to be said for cashing in on the

851
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 1: opportunities when they're handed to you. And on the Penn

852
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 1: State side, another really good defensive showing. This game is

853
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 1: coming week four pm on Fox in Iowa between Penn

854
00:45:56,560 --> 00:46:00,400
Speaker 1: State and Iowa three verses four. It's going to be

855
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 1: a defensive clash. It's always a defensive clash, but that

856
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:05,840
Speaker 1: is going to be the case this yere. Penn State's

857
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 1: defense has gotten better almost every game. It feels like

858
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:12,800
Speaker 1: they got much much, much better in this game as well,

859
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 1: just gave Indiana nothing to work with. They also may

860
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:20,719
Speaker 1: have hurt Michael Pennix for like the eighteenth straight year.

861
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 1: I have not seen if in fact, he did separate

862
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 1: his shoulder and up and he took a hit. Bad

863
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 1: luck for the kid. He was not right to begin with.

864
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 1: I think we acknowledged as much. But Penn State's defense

865
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:35,720
Speaker 1: was swarming offensively, you know, like it could have been better.

866
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:39,399
Speaker 1: The numbers are fine, Johan Dotson had a good game.

867
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:43,759
Speaker 1: Johan Dotson and Sean Clifford broke a record set by

868
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 1: is It, Todd Blackledge and Keith Jackson. The most quarterback

869
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 1: to wide receiver touchdowns in the history of the programs.

870
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 1: Black Ledgers on the call, which was somewhat coincidental, but

871
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, there are parts of the offense

872
00:46:57,000 --> 00:47:00,040
Speaker 1: that look really good. Still not convinced they have the

873
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:02,759
Speaker 1: running game figured out, but did what they needed to

874
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:05,880
Speaker 1: do and played a really good, sound defensive game to

875
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 1: blank Indiana twenty four to nothing.

876
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 2: Whoever is evaluating and developing receivers at Penn State, I

877
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:13,799
Speaker 2: know it was Josh Gattis for a while there, back

878
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 2: then before I went to Alabama, now Michigan. What a

879
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 2: job that human is because over the past few years,

880
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:21,839
Speaker 2: I mean, it's not even just Johan Dotson, right, it's

881
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 2: the tight ends, it's Parker Washington. These last couple of years,

882
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 2: kJ Hammler like, they've done a really good job developing

883
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:32,360
Speaker 2: these go to guys, especially without necessarily having great quarterbacks

884
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:35,800
Speaker 2: the entire time. So awesome for Penn State. The encouraging

885
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:37,719
Speaker 2: thing you mentioned the defense and the job that they did,

886
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 2: which for sure was very good. The encouraging thing for

887
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:43,280
Speaker 2: me was Penn State running the ball, I think, especially

888
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:46,360
Speaker 2: up front, Yeah, with kavan Lee, just in terms of

889
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 2: how much easier. It'll make life for the offense against

890
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:51,360
Speaker 2: the better teams. And I'm not saying kavan Lee's gonna,

891
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 2: you know, rush for six yards of carry against teams

892
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:56,319
Speaker 2: like Iowa or Ohio State something like that. But if

893
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:58,839
Speaker 2: you can keep defenses honest a little bit and make

894
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:01,319
Speaker 2: play action a little bit scarier with some of the

895
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 2: guys Penn State lines up, I think it's significant.

896
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 1: It's and it's significant, and it is kind of the

897
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 1: missing link. I'm still not totally convinced that sure, you

898
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 1: can lean exclusively on Sean Clifford to win a big

899
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:16,719
Speaker 1: game for you totally and to have that compliment on

900
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 1: the ground, I think is uber important. The reason that

901
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:23,279
Speaker 1: I kind of recoil a little bit and why I'm

902
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 1: hesitant is because we still don't know who the primary

903
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 1: back is, if that's a thing that exists at Penn State,

904
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:31,760
Speaker 1: because they have a very crowded stable of running backs.

905
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:36,799
Speaker 1: All of them have different skill sets a boy, but

906
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 1: how they use them and when they use them, that

907
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 1: that identity within the identity of their offense is a

908
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:45,759
Speaker 1: bit of a mystery at the moment. So if they

909
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 1: can sort that out and if it's something three weeks

910
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:50,960
Speaker 1: from now that it feels like we can rely a

911
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 1: little bit more consistently on Yeah, then I'll be right

912
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:56,960
Speaker 1: there with you. I'm just not there, really, No.

913
00:48:57,160 --> 00:48:59,439
Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's what they should have been able

914
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 2: to do against team like Indiana, who is totally decent,

915
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 2: but yeah, for them to carve out and grind out

916
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 2: some yards on the ground and some of the bigger

917
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 2: plays that they did, I think it can only speak

918
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:12,400
Speaker 2: volumes if they're able to do at least some respectable

919
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:15,920
Speaker 2: percentage of the same against the better teams on their schedule.

920
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:20,320
Speaker 2: And as for Iowa, my lock of the week Maryland

921
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:22,799
Speaker 2: did not come home for me.

922
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 1: No, and Iowa fans were very happy to remind me.

923
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:29,840
Speaker 2: And you know what, Ty, not only am I freely admitting,

924
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 2: like man, I just I leaned into the enthusiasm of

925
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:35,239
Speaker 2: home dogs and a Friday night on the road, like

926
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:38,360
Speaker 2: I leaned into all of it. And here's what I

927
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 2: give to Iowa fans now. Punt, punts, interception, field goal, touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, fumble, touchdown, interception, touchdown, punk,

928
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:51,359
Speaker 2: field goal, interception, touchdown, punt, fieldgal touchdown, touchdown, interception, punpump, punt,

929
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 2: interception downs.

930
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 1: See you loaded the divorgac up on your new soundpad.

931
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 1: On the board, baby, yeah, on the board, go in

932
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 1: full digital experience here.

933
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 2: No, by the way, and the play that stood out

934
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 2: to me. The play that stood out to me because

935
00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:14,360
Speaker 2: Iowa doesn't need Spencer Petriz to throw for a thousand

936
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:16,880
Speaker 2: yards for them to win games, though it is. Do

937
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 2: you know how hard it is for i would score

938
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 2: thirty four points in the first half? Do you know

939
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:23,840
Speaker 2: how difficult that is? The long touchdown he threw to

940
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:26,960
Speaker 2: Tyler Goodson was on my favorite play in NCAA football,

941
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:29,440
Speaker 2: where it's the running back sort of squirting out and

942
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 2: looking like he's just gonna go out to the flat

943
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:31,880
Speaker 2: and then cutting back in.

944
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:34,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a beautiful arrow to play. The arrowplay right,

945
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:39,719
Speaker 1: the arrowplay wonderful now, and Goods has got moves, you know.

946
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:42,480
Speaker 1: I For people who don't watch a lot of Iowa football,

947
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 1: there's he's got really good moves. No, he's a strong

948
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:50,600
Speaker 1: open field player. And it's not it's not like the

949
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 1: North South guys that maybe you're accustomed to seeing from

950
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:56,480
Speaker 1: Iowa in the past. He's he's got some some hops man.

951
00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:59,160
Speaker 1: So yep, all right, I don't have much else to

952
00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 1: add around the ten. The only thing I will do

953
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:04,440
Speaker 1: is issue of Mia Kalpa. I saw a bad headline

954
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 1: that said that Kyle McCord was going to play for

955
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:09,720
Speaker 1: Ohio State. Yes, so I'd imagine there was some surprise

956
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:12,440
Speaker 1: out there when you saw the box score that CJ.

957
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 1: Stroud actually played and went seventeen of twenty three for

958
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:19,680
Speaker 1: three hundred and thirty yards at five touchdowns. Clearly the

959
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:23,800
Speaker 1: shoulder is rested at this point. It is good. It's solid. Yeah,

960
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:25,560
Speaker 1: and they went on the road and they took care

961
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:26,800
Speaker 1: of business here against Rutgers.

962
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:30,719
Speaker 2: Yes, he basically had a perfect game. And Ohio State

963
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:35,440
Speaker 2: doesn't really have a legit challenge until Halloween, right, that's

964
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 2: when the Penn State game is so good for Ohio

965
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 2: State for getting its act together. Yeah, Nebraska's stomped Northwestern,

966
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:45,160
Speaker 2: largely on the ground. They just ran all the hell

967
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 2: over Northwestern. I think somebody tweeted us that Mike Hankowitz

968
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:51,920
Speaker 2: is a retroactive dude for what he was able to

969
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:53,920
Speaker 2: do with the Northwestern defense that Gen Neil is not

970
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:58,920
Speaker 2: necessarily doing right now. Minnesota with a late win against

971
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:02,960
Speaker 2: Purdue and way to come back especially after you called

972
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 2: them the worst FBS team. I believe I did, so yeah,

973
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:09,839
Speaker 2: that might have been on our Solid Saturday show, Solid

974
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:12,560
Speaker 2: Saturday dot com. So really nice, you know, weathering a

975
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:15,320
Speaker 2: ton through the air from Purdue, but Minnesota able to

976
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:17,239
Speaker 2: get the job done. I think David Bell had a

977
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 2: nice game for Purdue.

978
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:21,160
Speaker 1: With the lack of coverage about Minnesota football right now,

979
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:25,359
Speaker 1: my comment could have been bulletin board material. It could

980
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:27,200
Speaker 1: have been may have risen to that level.

981
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:30,200
Speaker 2: That's how bad both of these teams look. They've got

982
00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:32,080
Speaker 2: a nice schedule ahead of them. I mean, just that

983
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:32,879
Speaker 2: there's a lot left.

984
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 1: Right.

985
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:35,440
Speaker 2: They're both three and two and are one one in conference,

986
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:37,120
Speaker 2: so it's very early for both of them. They can,

987
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 2: you know, hopefully worm their way to a couple of

988
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:40,800
Speaker 2: bowl games.

989
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 1: All right, let's go over to the Big twelve again.

990
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:45,799
Speaker 1: I'm gonna read through scores. We'll double back and talk

991
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:50,040
Speaker 1: about what's jumped out to us. We at Oklahoma thirty seven,

992
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 1: k State thirty one before I forget backdoor cover, baby, yeah, baby,

993
00:52:57,200 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 1: backdoor cover for case State thirty seven thirty one. Your

994
00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 1: final score, Oklahoma wins Oklahoma State another impressive defensive showing

995
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 1: twenty four to fourteen over Baylor at home. We had

996
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:14,720
Speaker 1: Texas knocking off TCU thirty two to twenty seven. Texas

997
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:16,719
Speaker 1: was favored by four and a half at kickoff, so

998
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 1: somebody got that number right. We had Iowa State big

999
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:24,759
Speaker 1: fifty nine to seven over Kansas, and Texas Tech and

1000
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:27,600
Speaker 1: West Virginia. Texas Tech jumped out to a seventeen to

1001
00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:31,680
Speaker 1: nothing lead. West Virginia came storming back. They had seventeen

1002
00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:35,360
Speaker 1: straight points in the third quarter, but ultimately Tech wins

1003
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:39,279
Speaker 1: this one by a twenty three to twenty score and

1004
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 1: their one win away from already hitting their Vegas over

1005
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:46,239
Speaker 1: under Quiet four and one. So good for Matt Wells.

1006
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 1: What jumped out to you in this week? A big

1007
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:50,480
Speaker 1: twelve action, Dan.

1008
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:54,399
Speaker 2: Well just with that game specifically again for Texas Tech

1009
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:56,440
Speaker 2: to win with the back of the quarterback and Henry

1010
00:53:56,840 --> 00:54:01,400
Speaker 2: Colombia really nice. That would nice if either one of

1011
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:03,399
Speaker 2: these teams were a little bit more consistent in terms

1012
00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:06,000
Speaker 2: of the offense generated, because West Virginia came on strong

1013
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:07,880
Speaker 2: at the end. But did that West Virginia score points

1014
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:09,799
Speaker 2: in the first half? No, I don't think they did. No,

1015
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:13,239
Speaker 2: So yeah, we just I don't know, to come out

1016
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:15,840
Speaker 2: that flat against a team, a beatable team in a

1017
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:18,680
Speaker 2: winnable games, it's got to be disappointing for years, to

1018
00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:22,839
Speaker 2: say the least. B John Robinson good at football man.

1019
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:25,840
Speaker 1: That stood out to me. Sark Sark is now doing.

1020
00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:30,319
Speaker 1: I'm hopeful that Sark is doing what Tom Herman should

1021
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:34,040
Speaker 1: have done and just giving the ball. You hard for this,

1022
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:36,239
Speaker 1: but yeah, give the ball to your best player. He

1023
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:41,440
Speaker 1: had two sixteen and two touchdowns on the ground. I

1024
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:43,640
Speaker 1: think a lot like Baylor, who we can talk about

1025
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:47,320
Speaker 1: here momentarily, Texas is still working on that second pitch,

1026
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:50,000
Speaker 1: still trying to figure out what.

1027
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:53,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, tc did a good job against Casey Thompson and

1028
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:55,279
Speaker 2: the sort of more aerial attack.

1029
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:57,400
Speaker 1: Did a good job and it's definitely more pronounced with

1030
00:54:57,440 --> 00:55:01,800
Speaker 1: Baylor trying to figure out its other dimensions on offense.

1031
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:04,520
Speaker 1: But Texas I like that they went to be Jean

1032
00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:07,279
Speaker 1: Robinson here. We had talked in the build up to

1033
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:10,839
Speaker 1: this game that TCU's having some issues on defense, and

1034
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:14,000
Speaker 1: Bejeon just ran through. He had a huge game. And

1035
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:16,719
Speaker 1: Texas now four and one going into an Oklahoma game.

1036
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:21,080
Speaker 1: That seems gettable. I don't know. Oklahoma is by no.

1037
00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:24,160
Speaker 2: Means impervious if I told you, yeah, I'm really worried

1038
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:26,359
Speaker 2: about the team that has a lot of talent that's

1039
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:28,400
Speaker 2: been inconsistent offensively in bigger spots.

1040
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:32,280
Speaker 1: Who am I talking about here? All right? Exactly? Yeah,

1041
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:35,239
Speaker 1: let's talk about the Oklahoma game. Yeah.

1042
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:37,840
Speaker 2: By the way, just with regard to TCU, Zach Evans

1043
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 2: really really strong as well and could be one of

1044
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:42,960
Speaker 2: the better backs in the country.

1045
00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:46,160
Speaker 1: If maybe he was in a better offense. I don't know. Well,

1046
00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 1: I'm still worried about TCU. Big picture, Oklahoma won by six.

1047
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:54,359
Speaker 1: It was not that close of a game. I mean,

1048
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:57,960
Speaker 1: it wasn't a blowout runaway train effort from Oklahoma. But

1049
00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:02,520
Speaker 1: k State returned kickoff when they were down thirteen with

1050
00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:04,680
Speaker 1: only a few minutes left. They went for the on

1051
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:06,279
Speaker 1: side kick. They got a couple of cracks at it,

1052
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:10,600
Speaker 1: but no boyo. In the end, Oklahoma wins, Kansas State

1053
00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:13,719
Speaker 1: covers with that late kickoff return. I thought Oklahoma looked

1054
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:19,480
Speaker 1: better definitely. Spencer Ratler only missed three throws. I hope

1055
00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:22,360
Speaker 1: we see more Kennedy Brooks this season, because he was

1056
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:25,480
Speaker 1: the man in this game. Doesn't quite show up in

1057
00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:27,520
Speaker 1: the box score. He only had ninety one yards, but

1058
00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:31,680
Speaker 1: really ran hard, gave the offense a physical presence that

1059
00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:36,319
Speaker 1: I think it desperately needs right now. The one bit

1060
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:39,680
Speaker 1: of critical feedback here, and I'm sure there are a

1061
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:41,520
Speaker 1: thousand other things you could say about Oklahoma.

1062
00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:44,480
Speaker 2: Did you not like Spencer Rattler's jump pass randomly in

1063
00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:46,200
Speaker 2: the middle of the field. It was because I did.

1064
00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:48,839
Speaker 1: It was sort of out of nowhere, wasn't it. I

1065
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:54,080
Speaker 1: liked it. Yeah, Oklahoma did not really get home much

1066
00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:58,560
Speaker 1: against Skyler Thompson. No, And that was curious to me

1067
00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:01,279
Speaker 1: because I remembered in the back of my mind Chris

1068
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:03,839
Speaker 1: Cleman's comments about whether or not sky or Thompson could

1069
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:07,040
Speaker 1: play coming back from injury, and he was concerned about

1070
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:08,000
Speaker 1: whether he could run.

1071
00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:12,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, who knows the honesty involved in the early

1072
00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:15,560
Speaker 2: week statement, because it was something like, to be honest

1073
00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:17,400
Speaker 2: with you, physically, I just I can't see it.

1074
00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:20,080
Speaker 1: I can't see it. I don't know if you got

1075
00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:22,160
Speaker 1: to be able to run, they couldn't get to it.

1076
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:24,840
Speaker 1: He stayed pretty upright. Actually, you're right, he stayed upright.

1077
00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:26,760
Speaker 1: They did not get a whole lot of pressure on him.

1078
00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:29,760
Speaker 1: But outside of that, look a good win. This is

1079
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:32,040
Speaker 1: a good win. It was on the road they needed

1080
00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:33,520
Speaker 1: to get the monkey off their back. And I did

1081
00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:37,800
Speaker 1: think that Spencer Rattler looked a lot better in this game.

1082
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:38,880
Speaker 1: He's much more comfortable.

1083
00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:43,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, Oklahoma schedule is pretty nice all things considered moving forward,

1084
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:47,320
Speaker 2: Texas on a neutral site, TCU at home, at Kansas

1085
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:49,800
Speaker 2: at Baylor, Texas Tech at home, you know, the at

1086
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:52,800
Speaker 2: Baylor one, and at Oklahoma State for the Bedlam game.

1087
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:54,760
Speaker 2: They're gonna be tough. But to get Iowa State and

1088
00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:57,680
Speaker 2: TCU at home, it's pretty good.

1089
00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:03,640
Speaker 1: Oklahoma State twenty four, Baylor fourteen. Again, it's the Oklahoma

1090
00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:06,960
Speaker 1: State defense stepping up. Should not be surprised by that.

1091
00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:09,840
Speaker 1: At this point, it seems like they've done every single

1092
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:12,240
Speaker 1: game so far. Baylor was forced to punt on their

1093
00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:17,200
Speaker 1: first eight possessions in this football game, and in particular,

1094
00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:20,360
Speaker 1: Oklahoma State keyed on the run. They knew that that's

1095
00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:22,080
Speaker 1: what Baylor wanted to do. They keyed on the run

1096
00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:25,720
Speaker 1: and it worked really well. It forced Baylor entirely off

1097
00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:30,160
Speaker 1: its schedule offensively, and it kept them in check for

1098
00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:33,000
Speaker 1: a good chunk of the game. Baylor tried their part

1099
00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:34,840
Speaker 1: in the second half to come back and make it

1100
00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:37,640
Speaker 1: a game they weren't able to do. So. If you're

1101
00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:39,120
Speaker 1: a Baylor fan, I think you feel like you had

1102
00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:41,560
Speaker 1: your chances here. I think you feel like the game

1103
00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:44,240
Speaker 1: was their for you. They were not able to capitalize

1104
00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:47,160
Speaker 1: on some of the opportunities that were presented to them

1105
00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:49,320
Speaker 1: in this football game. You felt like you had your chances.

1106
00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:54,640
Speaker 1: Plan ultimately on offense, probably a little too rigid. Like

1107
00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:57,640
Speaker 1: I said, they're still working on that second pitch and

1108
00:58:57,680 --> 00:59:01,360
Speaker 1: they may get there, yeah, but it's just not there yet.

1109
00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:06,440
Speaker 1: They just came into the game clearly not trusting Gary Bohannon.

1110
00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:07,600
Speaker 1: In the first half.

1111
00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:12,880
Speaker 2: The offense was off the field way too quickly, way

1112
00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:15,760
Speaker 2: too often in that first half. And I don't know

1113
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:17,320
Speaker 2: if it's a trust thing. I don't know if it

1114
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:19,640
Speaker 2: was a specific game plan thing that didn't work out

1115
00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:22,080
Speaker 2: and they didn't have, as you like to call it,

1116
00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:25,680
Speaker 2: a second pitch. But look, Baylor's still what four and one? Yeah,

1117
00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:28,960
Speaker 2: they're four and one, still, all things considered, good place

1118
00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:32,800
Speaker 2: to be still water at night is nearly impossible if

1119
00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:36,320
Speaker 2: Oklahoma State has a pulse. But still, yeah, a lot

1120
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:38,600
Speaker 2: left on the table for Baylor. Got to be disappointed.

1121
00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:41,640
Speaker 1: I'm going to go to the Pac twelve here very quickly.

1122
00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:42,720
Speaker 5: We don't need to.

1123
00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:46,480
Speaker 1: Arizona State knocks off UCLA forty two to twenty three.

1124
00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:50,280
Speaker 1: Oregon State knocks off Washington twenty seven to twenty four

1125
00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:54,680
Speaker 1: on a chip shot at the gun. Washington State wins

1126
00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:58,640
Speaker 1: twenty one to six over col and USC goes to

1127
00:59:58,800 --> 01:00:01,919
Speaker 1: Colorado and takes it to the buffs by thirty seven too.

1128
01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:05,600
Speaker 1: On the ground, no less on the ground, Yeah, on

1129
01:00:05,640 --> 01:00:10,919
Speaker 1: the ground. So we'll quickly talk about the ASU Ucla game.

1130
01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:15,040
Speaker 1: I stayed awake and watched this whole thing. I watched

1131
01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:18,520
Speaker 1: the whole game here. Good for you, Yeah, I mean,

1132
01:00:18,560 --> 01:00:22,680
Speaker 1: it's not really a badge of honor. Right, Ucla got

1133
01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:26,920
Speaker 1: shut out in the second half as he scored eighteen unanswered.

1134
01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:30,360
Speaker 1: A good game from Jayden Daniels, A good game from him.

1135
01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:32,880
Speaker 1: The storyline surrounding Daniels. I don't know if people know this,

1136
01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:35,480
Speaker 1: but his grandfather passed away on Friday. So to go

1137
01:00:35,560 --> 01:00:37,040
Speaker 1: out there and put in the kind of effort that

1138
01:00:37,120 --> 01:00:39,439
Speaker 1: he did on a Saturday night and in a really

1139
01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:42,680
Speaker 1: tough spot. Good for him. I hope, I hope he's

1140
01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:48,000
Speaker 1: doing Okay. We knew going into this at the UCLA defense.

1141
01:00:48,120 --> 01:00:50,160
Speaker 1: Pass defense in particular was going to be a problem

1142
01:00:50,200 --> 01:00:52,280
Speaker 1: in it. It was. Again, they gave up a handful

1143
01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:54,600
Speaker 1: of big plays here. That's why they end up giving

1144
01:00:54,680 --> 01:00:58,320
Speaker 1: up forty two points to Arizona State. So still a

1145
01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:02,120
Speaker 1: pretty good game on the ground for Themistically speaking, DTR

1146
01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:05,760
Speaker 1: had his moments, you know where it's like, which which

1147
01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:08,400
Speaker 1: version of DTR are we going to get here? But

1148
01:01:08,680 --> 01:01:11,080
Speaker 1: ASU with a really big win. They were a three

1149
01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:14,080
Speaker 1: point dog going into this game, and ultimately I think

1150
01:01:14,080 --> 01:01:16,600
Speaker 1: it was Jane Daniels in the passing game that put

1151
01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:17,320
Speaker 1: them over the top.

1152
01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:24,000
Speaker 2: Uh. Yeah, Ucla had this game if they wanted it.

1153
01:01:24,280 --> 01:01:29,800
Speaker 2: I just DTR is not an answer for winning ten

1154
01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:32,680
Speaker 2: games for even in the Pac twelve. Like he just

1155
01:01:32,920 --> 01:01:36,840
Speaker 2: struggled and decision making and the defense gave up way

1156
01:01:36,880 --> 01:01:39,680
Speaker 2: too many big plays. For sure, it was Ricky Piersall

1157
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:41,720
Speaker 2: I think was the one who really capitalized. There was

1158
01:01:41,720 --> 01:01:44,360
Speaker 2: a really nice slug route I saw from Jadon Daniels

1159
01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:47,480
Speaker 2: who throws a really pretty if not kind of techmo

1160
01:01:47,600 --> 01:01:51,840
Speaker 2: super bowl ish like ball, disappears like and is in

1161
01:01:51,880 --> 01:01:54,880
Speaker 2: the air for like there's a hangtime element, right, so he.

1162
01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:57,440
Speaker 1: Just runs backwards to buy the time and then throws it.

1163
01:01:57,640 --> 01:02:01,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just uh it works though, it absolutely works,

1164
01:02:01,120 --> 01:02:04,000
Speaker 2: so I can't criticize it. No, really, there was some

1165
01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:07,040
Speaker 2: smart play calling from ASU that I saw. The weird

1166
01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:09,840
Speaker 2: play that dtr had like a thirty or forty yard

1167
01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:12,080
Speaker 2: run with it was just like a two on two

1168
01:02:12,200 --> 01:02:14,760
Speaker 2: like everybody else spread out. There was an unusual formation

1169
01:02:15,080 --> 01:02:17,320
Speaker 2: that worked out for UCLA. But yeah, way too many

1170
01:02:17,320 --> 01:02:21,800
Speaker 2: big plays allowed for UCLA and in a completely bonkers

1171
01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:25,480
Speaker 2: I don't even know if it's wide open, but it's

1172
01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:28,720
Speaker 2: nothing week to week. Nothing really matters the twelve. What

1173
01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:33,200
Speaker 2: you show one week means nothing. It's the ACC West, Yeah,

1174
01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:37,280
Speaker 2: ACC West weird. Other things that stood out to me

1175
01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:41,480
Speaker 2: in the conference Washington's scoring immediately and looking crazy sharp

1176
01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:43,760
Speaker 2: against Oregon State and what I assume is a scripted

1177
01:02:43,840 --> 01:02:46,480
Speaker 2: drive to open the game and then not scoring and

1178
01:02:46,560 --> 01:02:48,600
Speaker 2: not getting into the end zone again until ten minutes

1179
01:02:48,680 --> 01:02:51,600
Speaker 2: left in the fourth quarter. What are we doing?

1180
01:02:51,680 --> 01:02:54,760
Speaker 1: John Donovan is back, baby, he is bad we're doing.

1181
01:02:56,360 --> 01:02:58,280
Speaker 2: And then they are able to score and it's close,

1182
01:02:58,320 --> 01:03:00,480
Speaker 2: and then as you mentioned, Oregon State wins mean for

1183
01:03:00,600 --> 01:03:02,840
Speaker 2: Chance Nolan to basically do nothing through the air for

1184
01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:05,240
Speaker 2: this Oregon State team. They ran the ball well, but

1185
01:03:05,320 --> 01:03:07,880
Speaker 2: to come away with that win, it was in corballis

1186
01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:08,320
Speaker 2: I believe?

1187
01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:08,600
Speaker 1: Yep?

1188
01:03:10,200 --> 01:03:13,400
Speaker 2: I just Oregon State now stands alone.

1189
01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:17,080
Speaker 1: You're the first loan, your first place beat.

1190
01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:21,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, good for them, man, good good for the

1191
01:03:21,120 --> 01:03:24,600
Speaker 2: Beaves given the depth where they were with Gary Anderson.

1192
01:03:24,960 --> 01:03:28,880
Speaker 2: I look, didn't see it coming myself, but look, any

1193
01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:32,000
Speaker 2: team that's competitive and consistent to whatever degree in the

1194
01:03:32,040 --> 01:03:34,520
Speaker 2: Pac twelve, I'll take yeah.

1195
01:03:34,160 --> 01:03:37,800
Speaker 1: And USC. By the way, USC ran one up on Colorado.

1196
01:03:38,000 --> 01:03:41,080
Speaker 1: Colorado is out of much offense outside of Jared Broussard.

1197
01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:44,240
Speaker 1: But Keith saw this was back. He had a good game.

1198
01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:47,800
Speaker 1: County Ingram looked good on the ground. Drake London's a

1199
01:03:47,800 --> 01:03:51,040
Speaker 1: walking highlight reel. Of course, he had at least two

1200
01:03:51,080 --> 01:03:53,480
Speaker 1: catches in this game that if you go back and

1201
01:03:53,560 --> 01:03:56,880
Speaker 1: watch Sports Center whatever they call their Plays of the

1202
01:03:56,880 --> 01:04:01,160
Speaker 1: Week segment, now you'll see Drake London a couple times

1203
01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:04,080
Speaker 1: because he again had more highlight reel plays nine for

1204
01:04:04,160 --> 01:04:08,680
Speaker 1: one thirty. He will be playing on Sundays at some

1205
01:04:08,720 --> 01:04:09,800
Speaker 1: point in the very near future.

1206
01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:14,200
Speaker 2: Breaking news, Wazoo didn't blow a lead, Hey, okay, Sue

1207
01:04:14,840 --> 01:04:19,480
Speaker 2: Jayden Delara gets the start, jack Aarontano not playing, and

1208
01:04:20,160 --> 01:04:23,720
Speaker 2: I think, yeah, Calvin Jackson had a ridiculous touchdown catch.

1209
01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:25,960
Speaker 2: Look it up if you haven't seen it yet. Good

1210
01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:28,160
Speaker 2: for Wazoo for getting on the board in the conference.

1211
01:04:28,520 --> 01:04:33,360
Speaker 2: And yeah Cal is one and four. It's man, I

1212
01:04:33,400 --> 01:04:35,400
Speaker 2: don't know where Kle goes from here. It's hard to

1213
01:04:35,400 --> 01:04:37,000
Speaker 2: see them. I can pull up the cal schedule. I

1214
01:04:37,000 --> 01:04:38,680
Speaker 2: don't think we have a lot of people deeply concerned

1215
01:04:38,680 --> 01:04:40,960
Speaker 2: about the Cal Bears listening, but right now, I mean

1216
01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:44,360
Speaker 2: they have Colorado and Arizona on the schedule, thankfully, but

1217
01:04:44,920 --> 01:04:47,160
Speaker 2: otherwise this is a is a rough squad.

1218
01:04:47,600 --> 01:04:51,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, And finally let's close out with the acc DAN.

1219
01:04:51,520 --> 01:04:55,800
Speaker 1: We had Clemson nineteen to thirteen over Boston College. This

1220
01:04:55,880 --> 01:04:57,840
Speaker 1: one came down to the wire.

1221
01:04:58,080 --> 01:05:01,120
Speaker 2: Would you take Dennis Grossel as the Notre Dame starting quarterback?

1222
01:05:01,160 --> 01:05:05,120
Speaker 2: I would row again, just so you, just so you know.

1223
01:05:05,560 --> 01:05:09,880
Speaker 1: NC State thirty four, Louisiana Tech twenty seven. We had

1224
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:16,680
Speaker 1: Virginia over Miami on Thursday night, the super doink from

1225
01:05:17,160 --> 01:05:21,000
Speaker 1: Andres Borregalis that would have won the game from Miami.

1226
01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:23,280
Speaker 1: How much golf have you played? Have you played golf?

1227
01:05:23,280 --> 01:05:27,480
Speaker 1: Out there like on a course, not once. Sometimes you

1228
01:05:27,640 --> 01:05:30,560
Speaker 1: just really hit a tree. I don't mean the top

1229
01:05:30,640 --> 01:05:32,400
Speaker 1: of the tree with the leaves and the branches, and

1230
01:05:32,440 --> 01:05:35,120
Speaker 1: you're looking for the ball. Sometimes you hit it square

1231
01:05:35,160 --> 01:05:38,600
Speaker 1: in the bark and either the ball drops and goes

1232
01:05:38,600 --> 01:05:41,880
Speaker 1: straight down or it comes searing right back at your head.

1233
01:05:42,880 --> 01:05:44,880
Speaker 1: That is what Boragallis did with this field goal when

1234
01:05:44,920 --> 01:05:46,480
Speaker 1: he doinked it off the upright. It didn't go to

1235
01:05:46,520 --> 01:05:49,360
Speaker 1: the side. It was solid, it was straight on and

1236
01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:52,360
Speaker 1: it went straight back. Yeah, it was punched to it.

1237
01:05:52,800 --> 01:05:56,680
Speaker 1: Thirty to twenty eight. Virginia wins the game. We had

1238
01:05:56,760 --> 01:06:00,720
Speaker 1: Pitt fifty two to twenty one over Tech. We had

1239
01:06:00,720 --> 01:06:04,360
Speaker 1: North Carolina by thirty one over their rival Duke. Congrats

1240
01:06:04,360 --> 01:06:07,440
Speaker 1: of Florida State on their first win of the season,

1241
01:06:07,560 --> 01:06:11,240
Speaker 1: thirty three to thirty over Syracuse. Nice game for Jordan

1242
01:06:11,280 --> 01:06:14,840
Speaker 1: Travis both through the air and on the ground. And

1243
01:06:15,200 --> 01:06:19,160
Speaker 1: finally Wake Forest Dan, Look, you can't can't spell Wake

1244
01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:24,880
Speaker 1: Forest without five w's. You heard the correct thirty seven ending. Yeah,

1245
01:06:24,920 --> 01:06:27,760
Speaker 1: thirty four. A fun back and forth game. They win

1246
01:06:27,880 --> 01:06:32,640
Speaker 1: over Louisville, but Wake is five and oh man, it's happening.

1247
01:06:32,680 --> 01:06:33,600
Speaker 1: It's all happening.

1248
01:06:33,920 --> 01:06:37,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean to win at the end, and Louisll's

1249
01:06:37,720 --> 01:06:41,480
Speaker 2: I mean, Louis was tough enough, but man, wake Forest

1250
01:06:41,560 --> 01:06:42,920
Speaker 2: five and l You're right.

1251
01:06:42,720 --> 01:06:45,080
Speaker 1: Their next three games. You want to talk about schedules

1252
01:06:45,880 --> 01:06:50,120
Speaker 1: at Syracuse at Army home against Duke Army is tough.

1253
01:06:50,240 --> 01:06:52,680
Speaker 1: Army is going to be a challenge. Perhaps.

1254
01:06:52,720 --> 01:06:54,840
Speaker 2: Skary Roberson, by the way, one of the better receivers

1255
01:06:54,840 --> 01:06:58,040
Speaker 2: in the country, and a year without real go to receivers,

1256
01:06:58,040 --> 01:07:03,160
Speaker 2: he is quite impressive. Yeah, NC State hung on, which

1257
01:07:03,200 --> 01:07:05,880
Speaker 2: we indicated it definitely was. I think we said it

1258
01:07:05,880 --> 01:07:08,040
Speaker 2: was an open face, let down, look ahead, then bye

1259
01:07:08,080 --> 01:07:12,440
Speaker 2: week next week. If memory serves uh, Clemson sloppy but

1260
01:07:13,640 --> 01:07:14,400
Speaker 2: gutted it out.

1261
01:07:14,560 --> 01:07:19,480
Speaker 1: I guess they was they Okay, I watched all of

1262
01:07:19,520 --> 01:07:22,920
Speaker 1: this game in chunks here and there. I thought I

1263
01:07:22,960 --> 01:07:29,320
Speaker 1: thought in general, DJU looked a little better. They were comfortable.

1264
01:07:29,360 --> 01:07:31,920
Speaker 1: They definitely took more advantage of him on the ground,

1265
01:07:32,240 --> 01:07:36,840
Speaker 1: which was good. The accuracy is still kind of shaky.

1266
01:07:37,280 --> 01:07:40,120
Speaker 1: I don't know what happened there, kind of shaky. The

1267
01:07:40,240 --> 01:07:46,120
Speaker 1: line kind of shaky, okay, And I know I read

1268
01:07:46,200 --> 01:07:48,080
Speaker 1: some of the Clemson sites. I mean they're screaming about

1269
01:07:48,080 --> 01:07:51,000
Speaker 1: the receiving corps. They hate the receiver screaming about the

1270
01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:54,120
Speaker 1: receiving core I know, justin Ross, Yeah, obviously, and so

1271
01:07:54,280 --> 01:07:57,520
Speaker 1: that's that's gonna be a thing. But man, what like,

1272
01:07:58,560 --> 01:08:04,680
Speaker 1: what a weird thing to see the Clemson crowd kind

1273
01:08:04,680 --> 01:08:09,920
Speaker 1: of going crazy after barely beating hanging on to beat BC.

1274
01:08:10,360 --> 01:08:13,560
Speaker 1: Dennis Grozel, by the way, cut through them like a

1275
01:08:13,600 --> 01:08:16,160
Speaker 1: hot knife through butter on that final drive would be

1276
01:08:16,200 --> 01:08:19,960
Speaker 1: game winning drive until he fumbled it away. But with

1277
01:08:20,040 --> 01:08:22,519
Speaker 1: the way that they had momentum on that final drive,

1278
01:08:22,680 --> 01:08:24,360
Speaker 1: there was almost no doubt that they were going to

1279
01:08:24,400 --> 01:08:27,080
Speaker 1: score a touchdown had it not been for the turnover

1280
01:08:27,160 --> 01:08:30,160
Speaker 1: that ended the game. He marched down the field. They

1281
01:08:30,160 --> 01:08:32,800
Speaker 1: had a shot to win this game, despite the fact

1282
01:08:32,800 --> 01:08:34,680
Speaker 1: that they're playing with the backup and they don't have

1283
01:08:34,760 --> 01:08:37,840
Speaker 1: near the talent that Clemson has. Jeff Hafley can coach.

1284
01:08:38,400 --> 01:08:39,960
Speaker 1: He had them in this game. It was there. They

1285
01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:41,479
Speaker 1: just made a dumb mistake down the stretch.

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Speaker 2: Well, he also almost threw the game away via interception

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Speaker 2: in the end zone as well, and it went through

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Speaker 2: I thinks.

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Speaker 1: Through his hands. So they vacation.

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Speaker 2: Fortunate that they got another chance, but they were they

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Speaker 2: squandered that opportunity. But yeah, you know, Clemson has a

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Speaker 2: lot of work to do when you're clunkers though. That's

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Speaker 2: where we're at with Clemson right now. Though that I

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Speaker 2: don't remember what the spread is, but I'm positive b

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Speaker 2: C covered fifteen and a half. Fifteen and a half,

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Speaker 2: so six points when you're clunkers. They survived. The crowd

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Speaker 2: seem super into it. They got some false starts, so

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Speaker 2: you know, survive in advance. I suppose the expectations are

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Speaker 2: I guess, just win as many as you can given

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Speaker 2: the limitations on offense.

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Speaker 1: This year. We will come to a point, by the way,

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Speaker 1: with Clemson, like we will with Wisconsin. Yeah, where the

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01:09:30,479 --> 01:09:35,800
Speaker 1: point spreads will overcorrect mm hmm, make the lines, make

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01:09:35,840 --> 01:09:39,200
Speaker 1: the lines far too low for those teams, and there

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01:09:39,240 --> 01:09:41,840
Speaker 1: will be incredible value on them at some point this season.

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Speaker 1: I don't know when that is, but my hunch is

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Speaker 1: that it is coming from both those schools.

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Speaker 2: So Clemson pit and then three weeks something like that,

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Speaker 2: the twenty third and Clemson wake right around Thanksgiving. Those

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Speaker 2: are the big ones left right now for Clemson to overcome.

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Speaker 1: Any other. The games that you want to mention were

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Speaker 1: through the M five. What else happened?

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Speaker 2: So BYU has a quarterback hurt, but they're able to

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Speaker 2: hang on against Utah State. Fresno State goes down.

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Speaker 1: Tyler went down to Hawaii.

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01:10:12,880 --> 01:10:15,120
Speaker 2: They go down to Hawaii. Ja Hayner threw for a

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01:10:15,120 --> 01:10:17,240
Speaker 2: bajillion yards but had a bunch of picks in the

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01:10:17,240 --> 01:10:20,280
Speaker 2: red zone, real ugly picks. So ye, Fresno State a

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01:10:20,320 --> 01:10:23,479
Speaker 2: team that I really enjoyed watching and still will enjoy watching.

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Speaker 1: They go down.

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01:10:24,680 --> 01:10:27,800
Speaker 2: Navy beats UCF of course down Dylan Gabriel and so

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01:10:27,960 --> 01:10:31,880
Speaker 2: given Navy's deficiencies and drama behind the scenes with the

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Speaker 2: coaching staff, I suppose good for them. Nevada did a

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01:10:36,160 --> 01:10:40,240
Speaker 2: terrific job against Boise State on the road. Carson Strong

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01:10:40,320 --> 01:10:42,439
Speaker 2: didn't do much, but didn't have to because they ran

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Speaker 2: the ball really well. Do you know how many yards

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01:10:44,960 --> 01:10:46,200
Speaker 2: Boise was held.

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Speaker 1: To on the ground? Three?

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01:10:49,840 --> 01:10:53,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, on thirty five carries if you're counting sack yardage whatever,

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01:10:53,400 --> 01:10:55,880
Speaker 2: because it's Hank Bachmeyer ten for negative sixty eight. But

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01:10:55,960 --> 01:10:59,559
Speaker 2: even still, Nevada's defense showed up on the road. Good

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Speaker 2: for Nova, who are now three and one. The Wolfpack

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01:11:02,800 --> 01:11:05,120
Speaker 2: just a team to be reckoned with ty. You know

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Speaker 2: how I feel, and I love my Mountain West football.

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Speaker 2: Other meaningful action that you mentioned Illinois over Charlotte. That

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01:11:11,560 --> 01:11:14,600
Speaker 2: was I think kind of a comeback situation for Illinois.

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01:11:14,800 --> 01:11:16,720
Speaker 2: We didn't really talk too much about North Carolina, but

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01:11:16,760 --> 01:11:21,200
Speaker 2: a nice win over a struggling duke team, Temple taking

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Speaker 2: down Memphis.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, man on that oppened. I don't know.

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01:11:25,760 --> 01:11:31,839
Speaker 2: Blonde mathis though made place Chargia transfer good lord Fau

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01:11:32,240 --> 01:11:37,160
Speaker 2: takes it to FIU. So there's that East Carolina. Don't

1343
01:11:37,160 --> 01:11:41,120
Speaker 2: look now, but in Holton Naylor's forty fourth year at ECU,

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01:11:41,479 --> 01:11:45,479
Speaker 2: they comfortably beat Tulane. I did see Miami of Ohio.

1345
01:11:45,479 --> 01:11:47,759
Speaker 2: I'm seeing right now, Miami of Ohio over Central Michigan.

1346
01:11:48,479 --> 01:11:51,920
Speaker 2: I believe Miami Ohio scored moregans Cincinnati. Chuck Martin, former

1347
01:11:51,960 --> 01:11:54,880
Speaker 2: Notre Dame offensive coordinator, did better against the Bearcats than

1348
01:11:55,120 --> 01:11:57,840
Speaker 2: the current Notre Dame. Ohio finally gets a win, be

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01:11:57,920 --> 01:12:01,760
Speaker 2: it against terrible akron Ken State, who has had an

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01:12:01,800 --> 01:12:04,760
Speaker 2: atrocious non comfort I think did Kent State have both

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01:12:04,800 --> 01:12:08,519
Speaker 2: Iowa and Texas A and m Yes, that's a tough road.

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01:12:08,840 --> 01:12:13,760
Speaker 2: That's a tough road. SMU undefeated Tanner Mordecai. Yeah, come

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Speaker 2: on five and oh comfortable win against South Florida. Who

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01:12:16,840 --> 01:12:19,120
Speaker 2: does I'll look up SMBU schedule in a moment.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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01:12:20,040 --> 01:12:22,360
Speaker 2: Ball State did beat Army, so I called Army tough,

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01:12:22,400 --> 01:12:24,400
Speaker 2: but they didn't do much against Ball State. I have

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01:12:24,439 --> 01:12:27,080
Speaker 2: not watched that game in detail at all yet.

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01:12:27,960 --> 01:12:28,439
Speaker 1: I'm trying to.

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01:12:28,400 --> 01:12:30,400
Speaker 2: Look at other action that's at all. San Jose State

1361
01:12:31,439 --> 01:12:34,000
Speaker 2: they haven't lost. It looks like at home they had

1362
01:12:34,040 --> 01:12:36,639
Speaker 2: a tough road, but they beat New Mexico State, who's

1363
01:12:36,720 --> 01:12:39,240
Speaker 2: kind of a disaster U TEP baby for and one

1364
01:12:39,400 --> 01:12:42,600
Speaker 2: U TEP. Do you know how hard it is to

1365
01:12:42,640 --> 01:12:45,479
Speaker 2: win a l Paso if you are the team based

1366
01:12:45,479 --> 01:12:47,760
Speaker 2: in El Paso. They are now four and one, so

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01:12:47,760 --> 01:12:50,479
Speaker 2: that's I think it's Dana Dimmel Demo, the Kansas State

1368
01:12:50,760 --> 01:12:54,960
Speaker 2: former Kansas State assistant who's running that program. So otherwise,

1369
01:12:55,040 --> 01:12:56,640
Speaker 2: I mean Lehigh is really bad. I don't know if

1370
01:12:56,680 --> 01:13:00,559
Speaker 2: you want to get into detailed Patriot verse IVY League

1371
01:13:00,640 --> 01:13:03,719
Speaker 2: versus IVY League, but thirty four to nothing, the Aeli's

1372
01:13:03,760 --> 01:13:06,040
Speaker 2: come out on top. By the way, Fordham and Lafayette

1373
01:13:06,040 --> 01:13:07,479
Speaker 2: a bit of a shootout, forty two to forty one

1374
01:13:07,560 --> 01:13:10,919
Speaker 2: Fordham on the road, Bucknell wins the Battle of the Nellies,

1375
01:13:11,000 --> 01:13:15,640
Speaker 2: Harvard comfortably beats the Crossaders. Colgate did the unthinkable.

1376
01:13:15,880 --> 01:13:18,080
Speaker 1: Wow, they went to multi sport field, They went to

1377
01:13:18,160 --> 01:13:20,080
Speaker 1: multi sport field. They come away with the w. They're

1378
01:13:20,080 --> 01:13:22,040
Speaker 1: gonna be talking about this one for generations.

1379
01:13:23,600 --> 01:13:26,479
Speaker 2: I think that. I think that's the extent. I've got

1380
01:13:26,560 --> 01:13:29,200
Speaker 2: a few dudes that people submitted via Twitter if we

1381
01:13:29,240 --> 01:13:29,920
Speaker 2: want to get into that.

1382
01:13:30,000 --> 01:13:34,360
Speaker 1: By the way, SMU at Cincinnati November the twentieth, mark

1383
01:13:34,439 --> 01:13:36,160
Speaker 1: that one down. There should be a fun game. Yeah,

1384
01:13:36,240 --> 01:13:37,840
Speaker 1: let's do d let's do it. Where's it at? Where's

1385
01:13:37,840 --> 01:13:43,200
Speaker 1: my sound? Where's my sound? Where's my sound? Who we got?

1386
01:13:43,880 --> 01:13:46,799
Speaker 2: I mean, just the Iowa defense. Bo Nicks was absolutely

1387
01:13:46,840 --> 01:13:49,519
Speaker 2: a dude. Drake London. Granted it was against Colorado, but

1388
01:13:49,920 --> 01:13:52,920
Speaker 2: Kenny Pickett just putting it on another ACC team. This

1389
01:13:53,000 --> 01:13:55,880
Speaker 2: time it was Georgia Tech. I mean we should also

1390
01:13:55,920 --> 01:13:58,320
Speaker 2: mention Jordan Edison and the receiving corps is really nice.

1391
01:13:58,560 --> 01:14:03,320
Speaker 2: There Will Rodgers for Mississippi State. Jalen Carter of course

1392
01:14:03,600 --> 01:14:06,320
Speaker 2: for Georgia. I mean the Georgia defense just smothering, but

1393
01:14:06,400 --> 01:14:08,639
Speaker 2: Jalen Carter got in there. I believe on offense as well,

1394
01:14:08,720 --> 01:14:12,200
Speaker 2: the defensive lineman and just the Boa constrictors that make

1395
01:14:12,280 --> 01:14:16,040
Speaker 2: up the Georgia defense. Tyon Evans for Tennessee ran.

1396
01:14:16,040 --> 01:14:19,120
Speaker 1: Really really well. That name. Wish my name were ty On, Tyon,

1397
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Speaker 1: it can be wish.

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Speaker 2: My name were ty On, Yeah, Tyon hilden Brandt b

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Speaker 2: John Robinson. I was going to be retired soon otherwise,

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I didn't make up a list myself.

1401
01:14:32,439 --> 01:14:34,640
Speaker 2: I mean the usual suspects. I don't know if you

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01:14:34,640 --> 01:14:36,439
Speaker 2: have anybody you want to add to the mix.

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Speaker 1: I'm just throwing a boy dill cutting reverbs at four

1404
01:14:39,120 --> 01:14:44,360
Speaker 1: point thirty after a crushing loss. hGe, that's tough. Yeah,

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01:14:44,439 --> 01:14:48,879
Speaker 1: well look, I wish the week were better for our teams.

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01:14:49,520 --> 01:14:53,160
Speaker 1: But that being said, it is always fun to go

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Speaker 1: through this catharsis if you will, of listening to reverbs

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Speaker 1: and talking it all out and getting the views from

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Speaker 1: Love it. I love to hear it all.

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Speaker 2: Maybe I'll get some picks from the solid toddler, because honestly,

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01:16:03,080 --> 01:16:06,320
Speaker 2: yesterday was a uh what do we call it?

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Speaker 1: Going in?

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Speaker 2: Something's got to give Saturday. My picks were not good,

1433
01:16:11,280 --> 01:16:14,200
Speaker 2: So I might for this coming week, so it would

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01:16:14,240 --> 01:16:16,840
Speaker 2: be the week six preview, I might take. You go

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01:16:16,880 --> 01:16:18,680
Speaker 2: the opposite, right, you go, you figure out what your

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01:16:18,720 --> 01:16:19,240
Speaker 2: gut says.

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01:16:19,080 --> 01:16:22,000
Speaker 1: And you just go. The opposite is wrong in the

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01:16:22,040 --> 01:16:24,559
Speaker 1: opposite would have to be right. I have the sound

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Speaker 1: on the board and ready to go.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, not that it would have come true for my

1441
01:16:28,960 --> 01:16:32,360
Speaker 2: picks this week, but I'm gonna go with See. I

1442
01:16:32,680 --> 01:16:35,440
Speaker 2: tend to think I overthink things, which I know haha,

1443
01:16:35,479 --> 01:16:37,720
Speaker 2: you know, maybe not. I'm gonna do my best to

1444
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Speaker 2: underthink this week's pick. I'm gonna do my best to

1445
01:16:41,840 --> 01:16:44,800
Speaker 2: just maybe I'll just bash my head against a wall,

1446
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Speaker 2: take a shot of something and be like, I don't know,

1447
01:16:46,720 --> 01:16:47,440
Speaker 2: I always.

1448
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Speaker 1: Seems better than Maryland. I'm gonna go with to Iowa.

1449
01:16:49,880 --> 01:16:52,240
Speaker 1: I don't know. That's that's I'm gonna underthink this week's picks.

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