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Speaker 2: Demanse Yo, you know, I rode one of those bird
Speaker 2: scooters to the Fox lot today again, three point thirty
Speaker 2: in the morning, wearing a full suit.
Speaker 3: That sounds like a vide sounds like a wearing a
Speaker 3: full suit is crazy.
Speaker 2: Those things go fast, bro that, and I don't feel
Speaker 2: comfortable riding them on the street, And so I'm driving
Speaker 2: it on the sidewalk, but the sidewalk is like uneven
Speaker 2: and I almost just I mean, I hit a I
Speaker 2: don't know, maybe a two inch maybe a three inch
Speaker 2: bump in the sidewalk, like between one piece of sidewalk
Speaker 2: to the next Oh no, I didn't fall, but it
Speaker 2: was a close call, man. And you should see the
Speaker 2: Fox Lot security guys when they see me roll up
Speaker 2: my bird scooter, full suit, backpack, just walking up to
Speaker 2: the security gate at three point thirty in the morning.
Speaker 2: Welcome in. It is another episode of What's Right with
Speaker 2: Nick right in the podcast and YouTube show like rate, subscribe, review,
Speaker 2: do all those things. You will greatly appreciate it. We
Speaker 2: have this full week of shows that we are on
Speaker 2: vacation for a week. However, we will continue our countdown
Speaker 2: of the fifty greatest players the last fifty years with
Speaker 2: a slight one week hiatus. We just had number five
Speaker 2: and number four Tim Duncan and Magic Johnson. About forty
Speaker 2: minutes on those two players. That video came out On Sunday,
Speaker 2: we will have three, two and one. We know who
Speaker 2: the top three are. The question is the order. Kareem,
Speaker 2: Lebron and Michael are our top three. So that will
Speaker 2: be coming at you one week from Sunday. But we
Speaker 2: have today's show and one more show before a brief vacation.
Speaker 2: You might say, wait, the setup looks a little bit different.
Speaker 2: It is true is because Demanse is in New York.
Speaker 2: I am doing this show from Los Angeles. We will
Speaker 2: hear from Demanse in just a moment, but it is
Speaker 2: great to see you. That is a great looking sweatshirt
Speaker 2: you are wearing, young man. But before we get to
Speaker 2: Demanse's part of this, we will talk discuss what we
Speaker 2: are not discussing is we do every show. What did
Speaker 2: not miss the cut? Aaron Rodgers, Banana's tattoo? All that
Speaker 2: might actually make the show, however, or at least a
Speaker 2: special YouTube version of who has the worst four four
Speaker 2: arm tattoo? Aaron Rodgers or Demonse Because I now after
Speaker 2: years of wondering, have found out what Demanse's foreign language
Speaker 2: forearm tattoo means. That may be on the show. Nick
Speaker 2: Curios calls out a drunk fan that is going to
Speaker 2: be on the show. I don't know what they're talking
Speaker 2: about there either, and John Morant on Michael Jordan, I
Speaker 2: would have cooked him. The issue there is the definition
Speaker 2: of the word cook. Does he mean beat him in
Speaker 2: one on one? He would not have done that. Does
Speaker 2: he mean cook him a few times? He absolutely would
Speaker 2: have done that. So there's this. You know what, we
Speaker 2: actually gave you a little take to all of those things. However, demanse,
Speaker 2: we are now ready to go. How are you are you?
Speaker 2: Are you a little nervous before you even get in
Speaker 2: the show. Are you a little nervous about the tattoo
Speaker 2: segment if we do that later?
Speaker 3: I am a little nervous. But I love how I
Speaker 3: knew exactly where you were going with that as soon
Speaker 3: as you started talking, Aaron Rodgers. But uh, I think
Speaker 3: people like it.
Speaker 2: Okay, you know what. I like it more now that
Speaker 2: I know what it means. For years, you wouldn't tell
Speaker 2: me what it means. You have a tattoo on your
Speaker 2: chest that you still have not told me the truth
Speaker 2: of its origin. One day I'll get that, maybe your
Speaker 2: thirtieth birthday. Okay, start us off. What are we starting
Speaker 2: with today? Uh?
Speaker 3: So, Harden takes a fifteen million dollar pay cut to
Speaker 3: stay with the Sixers. Big Tennis fan Daryl Morey agrees
Speaker 3: with this decision very heavily, as Harden admitting that he's
Speaker 3: no longer great Or are we supposed to expect that
Speaker 3: Harden expects to win in the future.
Speaker 2: Well, listen, we've got to give credit where credit is due,
Speaker 2: And James Harden had the option of play this year
Speaker 2: for forty seven million dollars opt into that or do
Speaker 2: what he's doing. And the exact contract details have him
Speaker 2: been finalized, but I think it's going to be about
Speaker 2: a two year, sixty four million dollar deal, so thirty
Speaker 2: two million this year with a player option for thirty
Speaker 2: two million for next year. And yes, some people are like, well,
Speaker 2: he was only guaranteed forty seven, now he's guaranteed sixty two.
Speaker 2: This is an absolute team friendly deal that helps the
Speaker 2: Sixers avoid the penalties of the hard cap, that helps
Speaker 2: the Sixers add the players they've added this offseason, which
Speaker 2: I think makes them a more viable contender in the
Speaker 2: Eastern Conference that we know at least I believe Milwaukee
Speaker 2: sit to the top of. Then you have Boston as
Speaker 2: a clear number two, and then real questions after that,
Speaker 2: what is Miami going to look like? What the hell
Speaker 2: is Brooklyn gonna look like? And can Philly be better?
Speaker 2: And James Harden is a punching bag of sorts, and
Speaker 2: fairly so, because he quit on Houston and then he
Speaker 2: quit on Brooklyn and then when he got to Philly
Speaker 2: he was bad. However, just because a guy has some
Speaker 2: really ugly marks on his resume doesn't mean we have
Speaker 2: to ignore when he does something that clearly and obviously
Speaker 2: helps the team and him not op thinking. I'm it
Speaker 2: wouldn't have saved things for the Lakers. But what if
Speaker 2: Russell Westbrook had done something similar opt out of the
Speaker 2: forty seven million dollars and then agree to a fifteen
Speaker 2: million dollar cheaper contract. What would that have potentially opened
Speaker 2: up for them? Now, this specific contract that Harden just
Speaker 2: agreed to, the Lakers wouldn't have offered to Russ because
Speaker 2: the player option in year two. The Lakers obviously don't
Speaker 2: expect Russ to be on the roster this year, much
Speaker 2: less a year from now. But the point is Harden
Speaker 2: is not a fan favorite, and understandably so. However, I
Speaker 2: don't think anyone should ever question how much he wants
Speaker 2: to win. Now. If you want to say, he would
Speaker 2: take care of his body a little bit more, he
Speaker 2: wouldn't go out as much if he really wanted to win,
Speaker 2: I guess I could listen to that, except for the
Speaker 2: fact the guy was incredibly durable, and the guy had
Speaker 2: it was incredibly not just high usage, but high minutes
Speaker 2: in games every single year of his career until he
Speaker 2: got to Brooklyn and he started dealing with some injuries.
Speaker 2: That I mean, he was eighty plus games seemingly every
Speaker 2: year with the Rockets, playing around thirty eight minutes per game,
Speaker 2: near the top of the league in minutes played every
Speaker 2: single year. The issue with Harden wasn't that he didn't
Speaker 2: want to win. The issue with Harden was that in
Speaker 2: the biggest spots he didn't play well. But that wasn't
Speaker 2: for lack of trying. And one of the reasons I
Speaker 2: would argue the biggest reason he wanted to leave Houston
Speaker 2: when he did was he knew that team could no
Speaker 2: longer win now. He did it in kind of embarrassing fashion,
Speaker 2: and he left Brooklyn in even more embarrassing fashion. But
Speaker 2: this is a guy that is going to have made
Speaker 2: between the Adidas money in the NBA money around half
Speaker 2: a billion dollars, and so it is not it shouldn't
Speaker 2: be shocking that he is going to set money aside
Speaker 2: to a degree, take fifteen million dollars less to try
Speaker 2: to help Philly have the best chance to win. That
Speaker 2: doesn't shock me. It is only shocking because it is
Speaker 2: so rare that it's done. But even though Harden is
Speaker 2: not a popular figure. There is no work around too.
Speaker 2: While he actually this is actually good for him, be good. No,
Speaker 2: it's only good for him in the context of it
Speaker 2: gives him a better chance to win a championship, which
Speaker 2: is what I think he truly wants to do and
Speaker 2: I think what his goal is, So I'll give him
Speaker 2: credit for it. All right, what's next?
Speaker 3: Dam and Bill both signed huge extensions with their teams.
Speaker 3: But I mean sorry. Beal says that he thinks that
Speaker 3: the Wizards can win with him on the team win
Speaker 3: a title, but Lillard says that fans need to rock
Speaker 3: or rep the front of the jerseys more than the back.
Speaker 3: I don't necessarily know what that means. Does he mean, like,
Speaker 3: you know, they need to worry more about the team
Speaker 3: instead of what the players are doing.
Speaker 2: Well, I think he's saying guys, yeah. No, though, I
Speaker 2: think he's saying, guys need to be more like players
Speaker 2: and such, need to be more concerned with the less
Speaker 2: concerned about themselves and more concerned about the team and
Speaker 2: the organization, which is the team when they Werezation isn't
Speaker 2: always concerned about the players. But I understand what he's saying.
Speaker 2: But go ahead and ask the question.
Speaker 3: Work. Okay, So both players are getting grilled for staying
Speaker 3: with bad teams, and honestly, it's it's kind of weird.
Speaker 3: I feel like they should get that Jordan Kobe treatment
Speaker 3: for staying on their same teams. But what's the problem
Speaker 3: here with fans? It seems like the players can't really
Speaker 3: do anything right.
Speaker 2: Well, so here's the thing. They're obviously not Jordan Kobe
Speaker 2: caliber players. And I know you're not saying, yeah, but
Speaker 2: guys that you know stayed with one team their entire career. Now,
Speaker 2: I should be noted Kobe did demand to trade and
Speaker 2: Jordan did eventually go play for the Wizards. Bierstein, what
Speaker 2: you're saying the Reggie Miller arc of your team's never
Speaker 2: quite good enough, but you stay with the Pacers forever.
Speaker 2: I understand the point that you're making. And this is
Speaker 2: where I think, this is where we have to remind people.
Speaker 2: Twitter is not real life. There are certain elements of
Speaker 2: NBA Twitter that no matter what a guy does, he
Speaker 2: is going to be criticized for. If Damian Lillard had
Speaker 2: asked it out, had asked out, people would say he's
Speaker 2: running from the challenge. He stays they say, oh, he
Speaker 2: doesn't care about winning. Bill. To me, it was a
Speaker 2: no brainer. Bill is not an all time caliber player.
Speaker 2: He's a very good player, a very nice player, but
Speaker 2: not an all time caliber player. They're offering him a
Speaker 2: quarter of a billion dollars. He knows he can't be
Speaker 2: the best player on a championship team. In my opinion,
Speaker 2: he's like a clear step below, like real Hall of
Speaker 2: Fame caliber player. So the bial thing is almost a
Speaker 2: different category. Dame is unique and interesting because Dame is
Speaker 2: an all time player. Dame's a top seventy five all
Speaker 2: time guy. He was one of the final cuts of
Speaker 2: my list of the fifty gardest last fifty years. And
Speaker 2: it's not only that he's never won a championship. He's
Speaker 2: never played in a finals. And here is my concern
Speaker 2: for Dame. So demons, do this with me. I'm going
Speaker 2: to give you four names, and my guess is you
Speaker 2: are familiar with In fact, I know you're familiar with
Speaker 2: all four of them. But they are guys of this
Speaker 2: most recent generation, the best players to never forget win
Speaker 2: a championship, the best players to never play in a finals.
Speaker 2: Steve Nash, Vince Carter, Tracy, McGrady, Carmelo, Anthony, you have
Speaker 2: vivid memories and you can picture all of those guys
Speaker 2: at the peak of their powers. Correct. Yeah, Okay, So
Speaker 2: here's why I mentioned that. I think we feel like
Speaker 2: and Vince I think will be iconic forever because he's
Speaker 2: the greatest dunker ever and has so many great highlights.
Speaker 2: But I think we think that those guys have more
Speaker 2: staying power than they actually do despite never making a finals.
Speaker 2: And here's the evidence of it. I'm gonna give you
Speaker 2: four more names. They're the four best players to not
Speaker 2: make a finals in the era prior to the most
Speaker 2: recent one. Okay, and aside from hearing me mentioned them
Speaker 2: on the top fifty list, the guys who made it.
Speaker 2: Do you know anything about any of these people? Sidney Moncreef,
Speaker 2: Bernard King, Alex English, George Gervin. Do those four names
Speaker 2: mean anything to you?
Speaker 3: No, Bernard King is probably the only.
Speaker 2: One, and you don't even really know why it means something.
Speaker 2: You've just heard it like that. You can't you can't picture,
Speaker 2: you can't visualize any of it. By the way, this
Speaker 2: isn't me roasting you for that.
Speaker 3: No, here's it.
Speaker 2: So here's my concern for Dame. I don't want Dame
Speaker 2: to be forgotten the history. And while I'm familiar with
Speaker 2: those four names I just mentioned, I think there's a
Speaker 2: lot of contemporary NBA fans that don't know about any
Speaker 2: of them, except for maybe George Gervin because he had
Speaker 2: a sweet nickname, the Iceman, and he had this amazing move,
Speaker 2: the finger roll. There is there is nothing to get
Speaker 2: guarantee that Dame's name, you know, echoes throughout history. And
Speaker 2: if he stays in Portland forever and they I don't
Speaker 2: know that they'll make another conference finals, much less an
Speaker 2: NBA finals. I think he's going to be in a
Speaker 2: rough spot. Like I think Tracy McGrady. People don't think
Speaker 2: of it now. I think Tracy McGrady will be forgotten
Speaker 2: to history. I think Steve Nash has some historical relevance,
Speaker 2: partially because he was a white superstar and a white
Speaker 2: non European superstar, partially because they played such a different
Speaker 2: brand of basketball, and then everybody else seven seconds or less.
Speaker 2: Vince will echo forever because of the dunking in the
Speaker 2: same even more so than Dominique did. Dominique's another guy,
Speaker 2: by the way, I could have added to that list,
Speaker 2: I guess of guys who never made a finals. But
Speaker 2: he has the thing that Dominique has, which is the
Speaker 2: amazing highlight reel. Carmelo might have some right, Carmelo might
Speaker 2: have some historical relevance just because he was the Carmelo
Speaker 2: Lebron Wade draft class. But Carmelo can be forgotten, not forgotten,
Speaker 2: but set aside, similar to how Bernard King has been.
Speaker 2: Nobody cares about Alex English. I'm the only I'm the
Speaker 2: only person that cares about Sidney Moncree, and then there's
Speaker 2: Gervin with the finger roll. So Dame is making a
Speaker 2: choice here to stay loyal to Portland, and I'm not
Speaker 2: going to judge him for it. But as a Damian
Speaker 2: Lillard fan, do I kind of wish that we could
Speaker 2: see him play in a conference finals with a real
Speaker 2: chance to win it, as oppose the one conference finals
Speaker 2: he made when they got swept by Golden State when
Speaker 2: Durant didn't even play much less see him in an
Speaker 2: NBA finals, I do. Unless he at some point demands
Speaker 2: a trade in the future, I don't think we're gonna
Speaker 2: see it. The flip side of that is, he did
Speaker 2: just guarantee himself sixty three million dollars in his age
Speaker 2: thirty six season. That one hundred and twenty two million
Speaker 2: dollar extension is his age thirty five and thirty six season,
Speaker 2: So financially speaking to hell of a deal. All right,
Speaker 2: what's next?
Speaker 3: So you agree with the fans basically?
Speaker 2: No, I don't. I don't want to know. I don't
Speaker 2: agree with anyone criticizing him or attacking him, because people
Speaker 2: would have attacked him or criticize him no matter what.
Speaker 2: But do I agree that this kind of cements that
Speaker 2: he's not gonna win a championship? Yeah? Portland? I mean
Speaker 2: Portland is more likely next year to miss the playoffs
Speaker 2: than to make the conference finals. And Dame's not gonna
Speaker 2: get better in the coming years. He's gonna try to
Speaker 2: maintain and then probably drop off. All right, what's next?
Speaker 3: Okay? Understood? Uh? Now the Baker has been moved. Jimmy
Speaker 3: g is the only good quarterback available. Jimmy's agent says
Speaker 3: that they want him to stay with the or the
Speaker 3: Bucks want him to be the higher apparent to Tom Brady?
Speaker 3: Uh is this even real? And does it? Do you
Speaker 3: think the Bucks mismanaged the Jimmy g situation over the summer.
Speaker 2: All right, uh, I really really.
Speaker 4: Really to do this too, you, I really apparent here
Speaker 4: air apparent, the air apparent, not higher apparent air apparent.
Speaker 2: It's it's a one of those Yeah, listen, like you
Speaker 2: are my heir, Like if I die, you get my stuff.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? You and your sisters are
Speaker 2: my heirs. But it's the h is silent. Listen. I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: but but I get it. You're like higher a parent.
Speaker 2: Like they want to hire him. They apparently want to
Speaker 2: hire him. I don't know, Listen, this is such a life.
Speaker 2: It happens. I want to I don't know. I don't
Speaker 2: know what you thought, but I mean, so this is
Speaker 2: I mean, I am more interested in that. Hey, but
Speaker 2: you know what, let me tell you something. Let mean
Speaker 2: and there's a good piece of advice for everyone. My
Speaker 2: friend Dragonfly Jones is the one that made me aware
Speaker 2: of this, and he's right. You should not ever mock
Speaker 2: someone for mispronouncing a word because it almost always means
Speaker 2: they learned the word by reading it rather than by
Speaker 2: hearing it. So like if somebody comes across the word
Speaker 2: they're not familiar with when they're reading it, they have
Speaker 2: to come up with their own pronunciation for it. So
Speaker 2: it actually sometimes is a sign of a more learned individual.
Speaker 2: In this case, I'm not going to say this was
Speaker 2: a sign that you're a more learned individual, but you
Speaker 2: just listen.
Speaker 3: You know, I could have I could have just taken
Speaker 3: the easy route and typed it into the pronunciation thing
Speaker 3: into Google. But I just figured I had this word,
Speaker 3: this four letter word figured out. It just looks like,
Speaker 3: you know, it honestly makes sense with the situation. It
Speaker 3: all right, Yeah, I got you.
Speaker 2: It looks like the word higher. Just maybe Matt miss
Speaker 2: typed it in the rundown. I get it, buddy. I'm
Speaker 2: not against you. I'm just telling you what happened here. Okay.
Speaker 2: So here's the deal. Nobody wants Jimmy Garoppol, Not at
Speaker 2: twenty five million bucks, not a with his injury history,
Speaker 2: not without the Shanahan offensive infrastructure with him. You know
Speaker 2: how we know nobody wants Jimmy Garoppol. Mike McDaniels was
Speaker 2: his offensive coordinator in San Francisco. Mike McDaniels goes to Miami.
Speaker 2: Miami wanted to Sean Watson. Miami then tried to sell
Speaker 2: a piece of the team to get Tom Brady. They're
Speaker 2: so out on Toua. No matter what Tyreek Hill says
Speaker 2: about him and haves Miami tried to go get Jimmy
Speaker 2: g No, of course not so the I don't buy
Speaker 2: that he's I think what's gonna happen with Jimmy Garoppolo
Speaker 2: is this, The Niners are not gonna be able to
Speaker 2: find a trade. They're gonna have to decide if they
Speaker 2: want to outright release him, and if they don't, they're
Speaker 2: gonna just wait on a team to suffer a quarterback
Speaker 2: injury and then hope that team is super desperate. But
Speaker 2: Jimmy Garoppolo is a below average quarterback in this league
Speaker 2: that because he has been in amazing situations is and
Speaker 2: the people that pray at the altar of quarterback wins
Speaker 2: act like he is a huge part of the reason
Speaker 2: that team went to a super Bowl and went to
Speaker 2: a conference championship game as oppos to the fact that
Speaker 2: he was just along for the ride. Jimmy Garoppolo has
Speaker 2: is four and two in the playoffs in his career.
Speaker 2: Those in those six games, he has four touchdown passes,
Speaker 2: six interceptions, a seventy five passer rating and averages one
Speaker 2: hundred and sixty yards passing per game. And he just
Speaker 2: makes inexplicable decisions. And oh yeah, by the way, he's
Speaker 2: injured all the time. So no, I don't believe Tampa
Speaker 2: is chomping at the champing at the bit? Pardon me?
Speaker 2: There's another one? How about that? This is when a
Speaker 2: lot of people will get wrong. Demon say, did you
Speaker 2: know the phrase is champing at the bit? But everyone
Speaker 2: says chomping at the bit because they it's like biting.
Speaker 2: It's like what a horse does. Yeah, it's like But
Speaker 2: so if you say champing, people think you got it wrong,
Speaker 2: but it's actually correct. But if you say chomping, no
Speaker 2: one bets an eye, but it's actually wrong. But the
Speaker 2: point is, I don't think anybody is, you know, thirsty
Speaker 2: for Jimmy Garoppolo at twenty five million bucks? What's up, pal?
Speaker 2: Looks how you have something on your mind? No?
Speaker 3: I mean, whoever created the English language was just an okay,
Speaker 3: well yeah, listen, don't wait, because that was probably a
Speaker 3: phrase that came like way later after the English language
Speaker 3: was created. But like that, you know what, which is
Speaker 3: real quicklogy etymology of champing at the bit, let's find out.
Speaker 2: I know what it means, but the why is it
Speaker 2: champing and not chomping? Grammar is tells us.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: The quick answer to whether champer chomp is correct is
Speaker 2: both are acceptable. That's a cop album. You know what
Speaker 2: grammar is. That's bullshit. That is the same way that
Speaker 2: they all of a sudden added What is the thing
Speaker 2: they just added to the dictionary that is obviously wrong,
Speaker 2: but everyone uses it so much they just gave up
Speaker 2: all think of it in a moment. It used to
Speaker 2: irritate the hell out of me. It's won something so
Speaker 2: many people got wrong. The dictionary just gave up there, like,
Speaker 2: it's fine, we'll call it the way correct is champing
Speaker 2: they just started. Champing stems from an old Middle English word.
Speaker 2: It's been around for six hundred years. Relates to the
Speaker 2: grinding of a horse's teeth, most likely imitative in nature.
Speaker 2: The word's been more modernly used to express biting down
Speaker 2: on a bridle. Yeah, okay, that makes sense? All right?
Speaker 2: What's next?
Speaker 3: Man? All right? Words, So let's talk some rancor. You
Speaker 3: revealed Tim Duncan at number five and magic irregardless.
Speaker 2: That's the word sorry, irregardless of the word is not
Speaker 2: a word. The word is regardless. Irregardless is not a word,
Speaker 2: but so many people used it. Merrion Webster was just like,
Speaker 2: screw it, We'll put it in there, but irregardless is
Speaker 2: not a word, even though now it is technically a word.
Speaker 3: All right, go ahead, okay, irregardless. We talked out Duncan.
Speaker 3: We talked out Duncan over Kobe last week, but per usual,
Speaker 3: people are still mad. Yeah, Kobe fans want their guy
Speaker 3: higher than Magic. All Magic fans would say that he should.
Speaker 3: Kareem shouldn't be high than him. Why is number four
Speaker 3: the right spot for Magic Johnson?
Speaker 2: It's the It's to me, there are few There are
Speaker 2: a few spots on this list that are inarguable, and
Speaker 2: one is Magic Johnson at number four. And by that
Speaker 2: I mean there is no legitimate argument that Magic is
Speaker 2: better than Kareem, Lebron or Michael, the three guys ahead
Speaker 2: of him. And there is no legitimate argument that Duncan, Kobe, Bird,
Speaker 2: shaq A, Keem, any of the people but Steph any
Speaker 2: of the people behind him are ahead of it. Magic
Speaker 2: at four is like to me written in stone when
Speaker 2: we're doing of the last fifty years. If you add
Speaker 2: Wilton Russell, it complicates in the last fifty years. That
Speaker 2: is one of the like Duncan versus Kobe versus Bird
Speaker 2: is a real argument, Steph versus Kadi versus Shaq and Achem,
Speaker 2: those are real arguments. Where doctor Jy fit into it?
Speaker 2: Where does Moses fit into it? And obviously the top
Speaker 2: three there is an argument for Kareem, Lebron and Michael
Speaker 2: all three of them at one, two or three. Magic
Speaker 2: at four. It's If people want to know my full
Speaker 2: reasoning for it, they can watch the video of it.
Speaker 2: But the short version is the guy played twelve seasons
Speaker 2: pre HIV. Nine of them he either won the MVP,
Speaker 2: finished second, or finish third. Nine of them he went
Speaker 2: to the NBA finals. Five of them he won uh
Speaker 2: NBA Championship. Guy won Finals MVP as our twenty year
Speaker 2: old rookie jumping center in game six with forty two,
Speaker 2: fifteen and seven something absurd I don't have in front
Speaker 2: of me. The Magic at four is exactly where he
Speaker 2: needs to be. I'm chomping at the bit to talk
Speaker 2: about this more. We'll be right back. Welcome back in
Speaker 2: What's right with Nick Wright? Segment number two, We play
Speaker 2: some We have some fun. If you were just listening before,
Speaker 2: if it made the podcast, we talked a little bit
Speaker 2: about bird scooters, demons. What are we starting with today?
Speaker 3: We're starting with a little bit of tennis. Get to
Speaker 3: Oh yes, sir, so Djokovic beat Kurios in the Wimbledon final.
Speaker 3: The doll had to drop out due to an injury,
Speaker 3: So sadly we missed the match of a lifetime. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but uh, who was ahead of the goat discussion?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 3: And what happens if Novak has to skip the US
Speaker 3: Open and the Australian Open due to his vaccine status.
Speaker 2: Okay, first of all, I now understand why you didn't
Speaker 2: pronounce air correctly, because you spent all your pronunciation time
Speaker 2: and energy on Nadal and Djokovic and Wimbledon and all
Speaker 2: of it, and you and Kirios and you nailed it.
Speaker 2: I mean, you didn't call him cry g os. You
Speaker 2: nailed it. You got Djokovic exactly right. I am proud
Speaker 2: of you in that regard. Okay, I still think Rafa
Speaker 2: Nadal is the greatest tennis player. Djokovic, though continues to
Speaker 2: make a strong case. Now. It was a shame that
Speaker 2: we didn't get to see Djokovic and Nadal in the final.
Speaker 2: Anyone that knows anything about tennis, even if you're rooting
Speaker 2: for Curios, you knew mentally he wasn't gonna be able
Speaker 2: to sustain in the final, and he wasn't demanse in
Speaker 2: the final. He started screaming at his own coaches for
Speaker 2: not cheering hard enough for him. He was like, I'm
Speaker 2: up forty love and you you sit down. You gotta
Speaker 2: keep yelling throughout the point. You gotta stand. He's on
Speaker 2: the court yelling at him while he's melting down. He
Speaker 2: tried to get a lady ejected because he said she
Speaker 2: was heckling him. He was yelling at them. Curios is
Speaker 2: just out of his mind. I like him a lot,
Speaker 2: but he's just out of his mind.
Speaker 3: I feel like some tennis players have like the potential
Speaker 3: to be some of the most snobby people ever.
Speaker 2: So he's not that though. So he's not You're right
Speaker 2: about that, but that's not him. He's just doesn't have
Speaker 2: a full good control of his emotions. But so Djokovic.
Speaker 2: Once Nadal was out with the injury, we did miss
Speaker 2: it because poor Nadal is going for the first single
Speaker 2: season Grand Slam in fifty three years. I think since
Speaker 2: sixty nine. I think it was Labor. I keep saying
Speaker 2: I think it was Labor, and I never look it
Speaker 2: up Rod Labor.
Speaker 3: See Fritz Fiel right now?
Speaker 2: Fritz?
Speaker 3: Who's Fritz the guy that the doll faced before he
Speaker 3: dropped out because of his injury.
Speaker 2: Oh oh the match we watched. Yeah, so that's what
Speaker 2: that's what I want. Yeah, that he couldn't beat him
Speaker 2: even when he was hurt. So that's what I wanted
Speaker 2: to ask you about. So I made you and your
Speaker 2: wonderful girlfriend come upstairs to watch the fifth set of
Speaker 2: Nadal in the quarterfinals. Be honest, you're not gonna hurt
Speaker 2: my feelings. And at one point you did fall asleep,
Speaker 2: but you have a bit of narcolepsy where you can
Speaker 2: just like fall asleep like that and then be right
Speaker 2: back up. What you watched? Was it or was it
Speaker 2: not compelling? It?
Speaker 3: Definitely? Yes, it was much more interesting than I anticipated.
Speaker 3: And like I, like I told my cousin fall May,
Speaker 3: it did up my tennis interest about fifteen. It does like.
Speaker 2: When you see like this strategy you have to do
Speaker 2: the different things you have to do and trying to
Speaker 2: like the different shots. Because I saw you at one
Speaker 2: point you went ooh, he like you.
Speaker 3: You noticed it. I knew he got him. He got him.
Speaker 2: It's good man. Oh yeah, US Open, here we come.
Speaker 2: But if here's the thing about the US Open that's interesting.
Speaker 2: So Federer obviously isn't going to be playing. Federer's done. Essentially,
Speaker 2: he says he's going to play one more Wimbledon. We'll see.
Speaker 2: Djokovic won't get vaccinated, and theoretically that means he can't
Speaker 2: play in the US Open. I don't even know if
Speaker 2: he can come into the country. If Nadal's injury is
Speaker 2: really is, you know, so bad, the US opens around
Speaker 2: the corner. It starts in what six weeks less than that,
Speaker 2: just about six weeks. I would imagine the Doll's gonna
Speaker 2: be able to play. But if he's two injured to play,
Speaker 2: then all of a sudden it is wide open. And
Speaker 2: I don't know what Medvedev's the rule of Medvedev is,
Speaker 2: because are the Russians allowed to play in the US Open.
Speaker 2: They weren't allowed to play in Wimbledon. I'm not certain
Speaker 2: what the US opens rule is. Gonna be, but I
Speaker 2: hope the doll gets to play. I wish we would
Speaker 2: have gotten to see Nadal Djokovic. We didn't credit to
Speaker 2: Djokovic for keeping his cool. Djokovic, who dropped the first
Speaker 2: set and then came storming back, handled it all well,
Speaker 2: and he he handled all gracefully. He's not my favorite,
Speaker 2: but I give him credit. He's a great champion, twenty
Speaker 2: one majors now and the most I think now he
Speaker 2: does have the most major finals of anyone ever with
Speaker 2: thirty two major finals twenty one and eleven. And all right,
Speaker 2: that's enough for Nick's tennis corner until the US Open.
Speaker 2: Maybe we can do this podcast live from Ash.
Speaker 3: That second last longer than the is normal hoop match
Speaker 3: in twenty ten.
Speaker 2: Oh, that's the match I told you about. Do you
Speaker 2: know that's the one I told you about that went
Speaker 2: like nine hours.
Speaker 3: Six six nine hours? Whoa were they? Were they in
Speaker 3: the different days or was it nine consecutive hours? Because
Speaker 3: from my knowledge and when I looked up, it said
Speaker 3: that hit dispatch lasted three to six days, six days.
Speaker 3: I can't. I don't really put my put my finger
Speaker 3: on it right.
Speaker 2: Now, Okay, I don't know that it lasted three to
Speaker 2: six days.
Speaker 3: Holy crap, what we go ahead?
Speaker 2: It lasted eleven hours. The match took eleven hours and
Speaker 2: five minutes. Oh, but they did split it up over
Speaker 2: multiple days. That part true.
Speaker 3: It was over three days.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 3: I thought you managed to speaking of my research was no, no, no.
Speaker 2: I thought you were saying, okay, good job on the
Speaker 2: is normal hoop point. I'm very proud of you for
Speaker 2: that is correct. That's the But that's the match I
Speaker 2: told you about which made him change the Wimbledon tiebreaker
Speaker 2: because when we were watching it and I told you,
Speaker 2: they Jane Teiberger. Okay, that's enough tennis, All right, go ahead,
Speaker 2: what's next?
Speaker 3: It's time for right or wrong?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 3: Tyreek Hill claimed that the Dolphins post that posted the
Speaker 3: video of Tua underthrowing him intentionally said that they wanted
Speaker 3: to shock the league make him seem like he was
Speaker 3: worse than he actually was. Right or wrong, Tyreek Hill
Speaker 3: is the teammate of the year.
Speaker 2: Oh, I think wrong, because the other thing Tyreek said
Speaker 2: about Tua was that this is, you know, a make
Speaker 2: or break year for his career. But I'm gonna throw
Speaker 2: something else at you here. So Antonio Brown plays for
Speaker 2: the Steelers and is considered a little eccentric but just
Speaker 2: a great player. You know, did the one live stream
Speaker 2: from the locker room, that's it. He then leaves the
Speaker 2: Steelers and in no particular order, like freezes his feet
Speaker 2: in the cryogenic chamber. He doesn't wear the right shoes
Speaker 2: and has the mistraining camp, then tries to smug illegal
Speaker 2: helmet onto the field that he had hand painted himself,
Speaker 2: then forces his way out of the Raiders forces essentially
Speaker 2: cost himself a chance with the Patriots. Has all this
Speaker 2: mayhem with the bucks, you know, strips on the field,
Speaker 2: all of this stuff. Right, So with the Antonio Brown.
Speaker 2: You know who ended up looking the best after we
Speaker 2: saw Antonio Brown the last four years. The answer to that, Nope,
Speaker 2: that's a good guess. But no Mike Tomlin, who was
Speaker 2: his coach in Pittsburgh. And it's like, my god, you
Speaker 2: had this guy for six years and nobody knew he
Speaker 2: was a maniac because you had him totally under wraps.
Speaker 2: So here's my Tyreek kill point. Tyreek Hill evidently has
Speaker 2: had these hot, spicy takes for years. But when he
Speaker 2: was with all Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes. We didn't
Speaker 2: hear Naria peep. Tyreek Hill was quite as a little
Speaker 2: church mouse when it came Tony any media commentary. Now
Speaker 2: he gets down to Miami and he can't stop talking.
Speaker 2: So listen, and Tyreek is coming to grips with the
Speaker 2: fact that again and more power to him, he took
Speaker 2: the money and the city and you know all of that.
Speaker 2: And the tradeoff is you go from the best quarterback
Speaker 2: in football to a guy who's not gonna be a
Speaker 2: starting quarterback a year from now. And he's trying to
Speaker 2: talk his way through it. Two is not good, man,
Speaker 2: Two is not good. Tyreek knows two is not good.
Speaker 2: The world knows two is not good. I like Toua.
Speaker 2: I sat and talked it to it the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2: I root for Tua, but he's not an NFL starting quarterback.
Speaker 2: Tyreek knows it too, and he's dealing with it, all right,
Speaker 2: what's next?
Speaker 3: He's dealing with it. I love it. Uh. Summer League
Speaker 3: champs now get rings. That's great news for Kings and
Speaker 3: Magic fans. Pretty wild that they're giving out rings before
Speaker 3: the preseason. Uh huh, right or wrong. Participation in trophy
Speaker 3: culture has gone too far.
Speaker 2: Right, I I like it. Oh, I don't mind. No,
Speaker 2: I don't mind this at all. I hate the folks
Speaker 2: who are like, who are all anti participation trophies? I
Speaker 2: hate them? So listen. I played little peewee soccer and baseball,
Speaker 2: and at the end of the year, Yeah, they gave everybody,
Speaker 2: or they gave a lot of people little trophies, but
Speaker 2: they weren't the same size trophy the champions got. And
Speaker 2: we all kept scored, and we knew who the good
Speaker 2: teams and the bad teams were. And as my buddy
Speaker 2: Laslow would say all the time, people that are like, oh,
Speaker 2: there are no participation trophies in the real world, they're not.
Speaker 2: You know what, They're called paychecks. You show up, do
Speaker 2: your best, you get a weekly participation trophy. It's called
Speaker 2: a paycheck. Now you want the big trophy, the championship trophy.
Speaker 2: That's the promotion, that's the bonus. This idea, oh, it's
Speaker 2: a it's a we're raising up generation of soft kids.
Speaker 2: Why by trying to teach young people that hey, commit
Speaker 2: to a team, show off, to practice, fight through the
Speaker 2: hard times, and even if you're not the best out there,
Speaker 2: we're gonna give you a token of your accomplishment, Like,
Speaker 2: go to hell with everybody attacking kids and saying, oh, like, oh,
Speaker 2: it's a new thing. Really, it's a new thing. I
Speaker 2: was born in nineteen eighty four, and I we got
Speaker 2: participation trophies. They're like, oh, this didn't exist in the sixties. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: but a lot of things didn't exist in the sixties,
Speaker 2: like letting the black kids play on the same team.
Speaker 2: As you complain about participation trophies, so pipe down with
Speaker 2: how much you better it used to be with the
Speaker 2: we didn't have participation trophies. So that brings me the
Speaker 2: Summer League. I'm good with it. Seventy five percent of
Speaker 2: the guys in Summer League will never play in an
Speaker 2: NBA minute. They want to Cinema christ Kid.
Speaker 3: God, Chris Paul, go back and play in the UH
Speaker 3: in the summer League.
Speaker 2: No you can't.
Speaker 3: He's not somebody I didn't know if Okay, I didn't
Speaker 3: know if that was I really didn't. That was an
Speaker 3: honest question. I guess it was a shot at Chris Paul,
Speaker 3: but I didn't. I thought that Summer League was like
Speaker 3: a thing that you chose to participate in if you
Speaker 3: wanted to but oh no, no, no.
Speaker 2: It's for young guys. All I guess, mate, and listen,
Speaker 2: maybe older veterans were coming off an injury could play.
Speaker 2: But it's for young guys. But seventy five percent of
Speaker 2: these guys whenever play in the NBA. They wanted them
Speaker 2: to take it seriously. Those rings look like my damn
Speaker 2: class ring from high school. It's like a Joscelyn ring. Like,
Speaker 2: they don't look like they're spending a lot of money
Speaker 2: on them. That's fine. Let them have the rings. Everyone
Speaker 2: just wants to complain about everything. Let them have the rings.
Speaker 2: All right, what's last? Go ahead, because we're late on
Speaker 2: time because I went on my brain trophies.
Speaker 3: Let's do it. So Tom Brady was on VAK off
Speaker 3: the off the Amalfi Coast. Yeah, this sounds nice.
Speaker 2: That's where I'm going for really, not this trip but
Speaker 2: the one in August. Yeah, I'm gonna stop by the
Speaker 2: Amalfi Coast, but go ahead and keep going.
Speaker 3: They were showing the Minions move well, they weren't showing
Speaker 3: the Minions movie anywhere nearby. So Brady posted a TikTok
Speaker 3: saying that he was going to take a private jet
Speaker 3: to go and see the Minions movie. Yeah, but the
Speaker 3: strangest part about this is the Minions and Tom Brady
Speaker 3: have beef and twenty twenty one, the Minions posted a
Speaker 3: quick tweet saying, ah squeezees like a deflated football and
Speaker 3: then quickly just deleted. Okay, right or wrong? Tom Brady
Speaker 3: retired to I mean unretired to prove the Minions wrong.
Speaker 2: All right, that's obviously wrong. But and listen, everybody knows
Speaker 2: I'm not the world's hugest Tom Brady fan. However, this
Speaker 2: is the type of Instagram flex that I appreciate. I
Speaker 2: appreciate Tom Brady just casually being like It's just it's
Speaker 2: such an efficient flex. It is a parenting flex of
Speaker 2: I'm on vacation, but I still want my kids to
Speaker 2: be happy. It is a vacation locale flex of yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm just hanging out on the muffy coat. And then
Speaker 2: it is a I am so much wealthier than you
Speaker 2: can ever imagine, and that I am chartering a private
Speaker 2: plane to take my kids to a movie flex. It
Speaker 2: is and it was all in just one little tweet.
Speaker 2: So I have I actually have mad respect for this.
Speaker 2: That's what I have respect for the Minions, reminding America that,
Speaker 2: you know, the Patriots for a long time essentially never
Speaker 2: ever fumbled the football and no one could figure out why.
Speaker 2: And then we're like, oh, the footballs are deflated and
Speaker 2: their waves are to hold and it kind of puts
Speaker 2: a you know, a black cloud over a bunch of
Speaker 2: their championships.
Speaker 3: We'll be right back, but but the Minions, Minions versus
Speaker 3: Brady better than all right, I'm sorry, No, we're skipping that.
Speaker 3: I didn't I didn't like that at all. I did
Speaker 3: not like that at all. But hey, the Minions versus
Speaker 3: Minions versus Brady is a better rival with the rivalry
Speaker 3: than Argusy, Sampris or Borg McEnroe. Uh, we'll record that
Speaker 3: on the side.
Speaker 2: No, that was perfect. All right. First of all, you
Speaker 2: got tripped up because rivalry is a very difficult word
Speaker 2: to say, and I mean that sincerely. Rivalry is like
Speaker 2: one of my hardest ones because it combines the l's
Speaker 2: and the rs. So that's a hard one. But then
Speaker 2: I think you called Andre Augusty Argacy, like the Argusy
Speaker 2: casinos in my hometown, yeah, in Kansas City. I also
Speaker 2: think you called John McEnroe McEnroe which is not ideal.
Speaker 3: I studied, Argusty sampras or Bork McEnroe, Argusy sampras Or
Speaker 3: Bork McEnroe, argus.
Speaker 2: You almost got it there. That was great. This is
Speaker 2: definitely gonna make the show. Now we'll be right back,
Speaker 2: all right, welcome back in What's Right? With Nick Ray's
Speaker 2: final segment. In a reminder, we will have a show
Speaker 2: on Thursday. Then we'll be off for a week, and
Speaker 2: then the following Sunday, So thirteen days from today, we
Speaker 2: will be back with the player number three, the third
Speaker 2: greatest player of the last fifty years in the NBA. Again,
Speaker 2: this top three. We know who it is. You guys
Speaker 2: have known who the top three was gonna be from
Speaker 2: the very beginning. If you, I mean, if you know
Speaker 2: anything about basketball, it's obvious the three greatest players, not
Speaker 2: in the last fifty years, but ever our Kareem, Lebron
Speaker 2: and Michael The question is the order. I have had
Speaker 2: so much fun researching this project. Number three comes out
Speaker 2: in thirteen well, I guess thirteen days fromhen we were
Speaker 2: recording twelve days from when you guys are hearing this
Speaker 2: a week from Sunday, but we will be off next week.
Speaker 2: We usually try to have some fun in this final
Speaker 2: segment of the show. However, there's a little bit of
Speaker 2: news trickling out Demons while we are recording. There was
Speaker 2: news from Nick Fridell on Kyrie Irving that he was
Speaker 2: just flatly, is Kyrie Irving does it look like is
Speaker 2: he going to be a Laker? And the answer was yes,
Speaker 2: it might just take some time. I saw that there
Speaker 2: was news this week and the Lakers don't want to
Speaker 2: include a first round pick. The Lakers are gonna get Kyrie.
Speaker 2: The idea that anyone within the Lakers is gonna be
Speaker 2: I understand all the baggage that comes with Kyrie, but
Speaker 2: you're gonna be able to get rid of Russell Westbrook,
Speaker 2: You're gonna be able to bring in Kyrie Irving, and
Speaker 2: you're gonna get Kyrie Irving for twelve cents on the dollar.
Speaker 2: So that's an obvious move. But the other move that's
Speaker 2: happening in with the Nets right now is obviously an
Speaker 2: attempted Kevin Durant trade. And what's fascinating about that is
Speaker 2: his preferred destination is Phoenix, and there is news from
Speaker 2: Brian Windhorse that do you want to give it, or
Speaker 2: do you want me to give it? Brian Windhors. While
Speaker 2: we've been talking, Brian Windhors says that I'll give it.
Speaker 2: What's up? What are you laughing at me about?
Speaker 3: Oh you said me give it?
Speaker 2: Or yeah, yeah, exactly, and then you started laughing at me.
Speaker 3: No, I was just laughing because you said Kevin Durant
Speaker 3: wants to go to the Suns like that, honestly, like
Speaker 3: it made me laugh a little bit. Wow. But yet,
Speaker 3: are you talking about DeAndre Ayton to the Pacers?
Speaker 2: Yes, exactly right, DeAndre Ayden. If Brian Windhorst is reporting
Speaker 2: DeAndre Aydon, the Pacers are sign him to an offer
Speaker 2: sheet or execute a sign and trade very sooner DeAndre Ayton.
Speaker 2: So how does that impact Kevin Durant. Well, if DeAndre
Speaker 2: Ayton can't be included in a Kevin Durant trade, then
Speaker 2: the Suns flatly aren't gonna have enough assets. They're not
Speaker 2: gonna First of all, they can't trade Devin Booker because
Speaker 2: Devin Booker and Ben Simmons can't be on the same
Speaker 2: team because of that designated player rule. However, they weren't
Speaker 2: gonna trade Devin Booker anyway. Mikhale bridges and stuff is
Speaker 2: not going to be enough for the Brooklyn Nets. So
Speaker 2: I have been so I think that if DeAndre Ayton does,
Speaker 2: because he wasn't DeAndre Ayton, we wasn't gonna wait forever
Speaker 2: for this Durant thing to get done. So it's not
Speaker 2: shocking to me that DeAndre Ayton is now. The Pacers
Speaker 2: have been tied to him, you know, for a while.
Speaker 2: This also is devastating for the Suns. And I don't
Speaker 2: think the Ayton's a great player, but losing Ayighton potentially
Speaker 2: for nothing, and if it is a sign and trade,
Speaker 2: we'll see what they get back in the sign and
Speaker 2: trade obviously hurts them in the final, you know, final
Speaker 2: year of Chris Paul's you know window as a championship player.
Speaker 2: And by the way, that year might have been last year,
Speaker 2: but I can't imagine he has more than one year
Speaker 2: left if he has that, so it urts the Suns,
Speaker 2: but it also eliminates another team that Durant could be
Speaker 2: traded to. So I'm gonna keep saying what I've been
Speaker 2: saying all along. The Pelicans are the team that makes
Speaker 2: the most sense. They are the team that can send
Speaker 2: a young All Star to Brooklyn. They are the team
Speaker 2: that has all the picks in the world that they
Speaker 2: can trade, and they are the team that could trade
Speaker 2: a young All star, bring in Kevin Durant and still
Speaker 2: potentially be competing for a championship. Because Katie is your one,
Speaker 2: Zion is your two, and CJ. McCollum as your three.
Speaker 2: With HERB Jones and others, you know, filling out the
Speaker 2: rest of the roster, that team can absolutely compete in
Speaker 2: the Western Conference. And I do like the idea of
Speaker 2: Durant coming to a team in the Western Conference because
Speaker 2: I like the idea of us potentially getting Durant Lebron
Speaker 2: in the playoffs on fair terms, which we've only ever
Speaker 2: gotten once in the twenty twelve finals. And I do
Speaker 2: like the idea of getting Durant versus Steph in the
Speaker 2: playoffs at some point, which obviously, the last time we
Speaker 2: got was twenty sixteen. In fact, the only time we
Speaker 2: got it was twenty sixteen, and then Durant joined Steph
Speaker 2: and since then they've never played in the playoffs obviously,
Speaker 2: So I hope Durant ends up with the Pelicans. I
Speaker 2: always thought the Sons are gonna be hard trade to
Speaker 2: make it's an impossible trade if by the time you
Speaker 2: see or hear this, DeAndre Ayton is on the Indiana
Speaker 2: Pacers that is today's show. Well back on Thursday before
Speaker 2: you take a quick vacation