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Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast

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Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: This is the almost Famous podcast. We have Justin Glaze

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Speaker 2: with us today, justin.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for joining us, Thanks for having me Justin.

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Speaker 3: I got to kick it off.

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Speaker 2: One of the one of the things that's been a

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Speaker 2: common theme, it feels like in my life is when

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Speaker 2: we interview people getting ready for Paradise, your name pops

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Speaker 2: up a lot with who they would like to see.

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Speaker 3: There is that a possibility it popped up this year? Yes?

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Speaker 3: This season it hasn't stopped. Oh why is that great?

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Speaker 1: Great? Yeah? Is it.

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Speaker 3: A possibility this year? Yes? Zero percent chances? Why this year?

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Speaker 3: A couple of reasons.

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Speaker 4: I just needed to I mean, that's a lot to

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Speaker 4: go through that whole experience. Obviously I went through it

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Speaker 4: season and I didn't have the most grand or enjoyable experience.

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Speaker 4: So I'm not exactly itching to immerse myself back in that.

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Speaker 3: Do.

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Speaker 4: I think it's a format that can work absolutely, and

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Speaker 4: on paper, it's ideal for somebody like me, just you know,

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Speaker 4: in sense of the amount of time that you get

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Speaker 4: to spend with somebody. But I don't know, I'm just

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Speaker 4: still kind of a you know, a bit weary based

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Speaker 4: on like how my experience last year went.

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Speaker 2: My co host Ashley would say that the rhythm of

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Speaker 2: the of Bachelor in Paradise is you're on it, you

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Speaker 2: hate it, you get off of it, and you miss it.

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Speaker 4: Have you missed it certain aspects? Certain aspects yes, other

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Speaker 4: aspects no. And I think that's kind of where the

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Speaker 4: dilemma is, you know, in deciding whether or not that's

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Speaker 4: something I would want to throw myself back into.

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Speaker 3: But there are definitely certain aspects.

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Speaker 4: It's like, it's it's an experience unlike no other obviously,

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Speaker 4: you know, and there's certain things that even when you're there,

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Speaker 4: you're like, this is you know, you find it's so

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Speaker 4: easy to complain about the little things, but when you

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Speaker 4: take a step back, you're like, wow, you know that

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Speaker 4: wasn't so bad, and I, you know, I could have

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Speaker 4: found success in this, you know. So yeah, there are

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Speaker 4: things that you miss about it. But I guess I'm

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Speaker 4: probably an over analytical person, so I weigh the pros

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Speaker 4: and cons more than some others may, which.

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Speaker 3: Is why, you know, I don't know if I would

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Speaker 3: do it. It would take a combination of a couple

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Speaker 3: of things.

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Speaker 2: One thing I cannot relate with and I'm really curious

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Speaker 2: about I've never really thought about this until now. You know,

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Speaker 2: obviously you're sitting in this room. You're what two years

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Speaker 2: removed from your time on the show, the first show.

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Speaker 2: You're removed from Paradise. You're back to normal life, and like,

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Speaker 2: you've tasted what the show brings you, right, It brings

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Speaker 2: you a little attention, it brings people maybe recognize you

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Speaker 2: on the streets more than they did before.

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Speaker 3: But you're back in a rhythm. Yeah, I went.

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Speaker 2: From you know, bachelorette to bachelor, and then I was

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Speaker 2: pretty much off, Like I was done. I didn't have

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Speaker 2: in between, where like I normalized again, stuff slowed down

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Speaker 2: for me again.

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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 2: So as I say, you're talking to you today and

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Speaker 2: you're saying, Okay, Paradise not this year, maybe next year.

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Speaker 2: Let's say it's a possibility next year, sure, Like, how

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Speaker 2: would you mentally go into it now? Like what would

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Speaker 2: change with your mindset now, having years back in the

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Speaker 2: normal world, knowing what you're walking into. Yeah, Like would

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Speaker 2: it change? Would you be as nervous? Would you be

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Speaker 2: more confident?

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Speaker 4: So I don't think I would be, you know, even

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Speaker 4: because I did even have a little bit of time

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Speaker 4: after our Bachelorette season, because they filmed that Paradise like

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Speaker 4: before ours even aired, ok, so we could have gone

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Speaker 4: on that one. I said no to that one, So

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Speaker 4: I had a little bit of time in between, you know,

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Speaker 4: I did go on Paradise last year. So I've kind

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Speaker 4: quote unquote normal life before re entering. But having been

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Speaker 4: if I were to go again, you know, I probably

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Speaker 4: nothing I didn't try to play a game. I didn't

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Speaker 4: I showed up as Justin and that's the best I

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Speaker 3: Did it work out?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 3: Does that suck?

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Speaker 1: Yes?

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Speaker 3: But is it okay? Yeah? You know, and it's you know,

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Speaker 3: it is what it is, right.

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Speaker 4: So I would go if I were to go back

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Speaker 4: you know, I think I would just know what it

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Speaker 3: I guess, what would be.

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Speaker 4: The things you do differently, So I would, you know,

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Speaker 4: I I think I tried to be in it, although

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Speaker 4: it didn't work out. Like I said just a few

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Speaker 4: try to very intentional, which I don't think is a

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Speaker 3: But I think I would probably just like let my.

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Speaker 4: Hair down a little bit more. And you know, I

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Speaker 4: don't know, I would be better at communicating. I think

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Speaker 4: that kind of got me into some troubles. But I

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Speaker 4: think honestly it's like it's a personnel thing as well.

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Speaker 4: Sometimes you just don't get the right mix of people.

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Speaker 4: So I think I would just be better at communicating. Why

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Speaker 4: I'm being so like analytical because in my mind, everything

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Speaker 4: even when I stepped like these guys, know, when I

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Speaker 4: I know what my intentions were, but I didn't communicate

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Speaker 4: I would just be like overly communicative with whoever.

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Speaker 3: I would, you know, be in a relationship or whatever with.

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Speaker 3: Would it play a big factor for you?

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Speaker 2: I mean, you have a very strong friend group from

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Speaker 3: Yeah. And you know people may hate this because they

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Speaker 3: on the beach, right, But it's more than just that.

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Speaker 4: It's like having a support system then because you are

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Speaker 4: And so yeah, it would be a make or break

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Speaker 4: Rodney to go with me. Absolutely, I wouldn't go down

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Speaker 4: need that night time, daytime, like side conversation, night chats

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Speaker 2: So I'm jealous, Like I would love that. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I feel like that would be a massive deal for me.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean I never got to experience, but just

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Speaker 2: would be huge. Yeah, just also for enjoyment and the

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Speaker 4: Yeah, nobody, nobody would understand unless you're there and it's

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Speaker 4: like it's crazy because you know that's kind of obviously

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Speaker 4: It'll it'll come up every now and then we'll crack

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Speaker 4: that moment in time. It's it's like you can't replicate

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Speaker 4: that with your you know, friends that you're known for decades.

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Speaker 4: It's they would never get it.

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Speaker 3: They never get it.

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Speaker 2: They never get it. They try, they just can't. They

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Speaker 4: working on some some other fun projects. Anyone who knows

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Speaker 3: So if you need a coffee provider, I'm your guy.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh yeah, I've been coffee company for five years, buddy,

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Speaker 3: Before we got to.

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Speaker 3: Some people do, you know, choose a different path.

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Speaker 2: So has that been hard to like balance that when

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Speaker 2: maybe on a Wednesday afternoon, you know, there's some freedom

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Speaker 3: You're you know, at an office. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely So right after after the Bachelorette, I went back to,

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Speaker 4: I'm a huge you know, parent of like everything happens

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Speaker 2: You know so well, we'll be really excited here to

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Speaker 2: in life that you want to promote talk about share

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Speaker 3: Not not just yet. Like I said, I do have

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Speaker 4: So if anyone is continuing to enjoy my Expresso Martini journey, We're.

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Speaker 2: Gonna do a collaboration generous Coffee is going to send

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Speaker 2: you some coffee and you got to make the perfect

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Speaker 2: espresso martini with it. You don't even have to share it,

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Speaker 3: Coffee in the world, is it? Oh yeah, let's do

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Speaker 3: it all right, buddy.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Justin, thanks for coming on. We do look forward

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Speaker 2: to seeing what's next for you. Always a pleasure to

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Speaker 2: have you on. Almost appreciate Thank you. Justin Glaze is

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Speaker 2: honest and as vulnerable as usual. Wishing him the best

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Speaker 2: success until next time. This has been the Almost Famous

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