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Welcome to the Bloomberg 2 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 1: This Weekend Podcast with David Gura, Christina Raffini, and Elisa Matteo. 3 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:20,600 Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us for today's selection of conversations from 4 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:20,959 Speaker 2: the show. 5 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:23,479 Speaker 3: You can listen to our favorite discussions right here on 6 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 3: the podcast, but also make sure to join us live 7 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 3: every Saturday and Sunday morning, starting at seven am Easter. 8 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 4: We're on Bloomberg Television, Radio and the Bloomberg Business App, 9 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 4: bringing you unique takes and in depth interviews on news, politics, 10 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 4: lifestyle and culture. 11 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:42,240 Speaker 5: We'll talk about over the courts. 12 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 3: This morning, we saw you administration waiving these sanctions on 13 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 3: Iranian vessels Ronnian origin oil to allow it the sale 14 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 3: of it here for a thirty day period. 15 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 5: Really in extraordinary development, Christina. 16 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 2: Absolutely, and attacks on the world's largest natural gas complex 17 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 2: have also sent these prices soaring. So joining us now 18 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 2: we have Brendan Naval whose company, the Glen Farm Group, 19 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 2: is behind am massive proposed liquified natural gas pipeline in Alaska. Brennan, 20 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 2: thank you so much for joining us. 21 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 6: Thanks for having me. 22 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 2: I mean, first, just tell us what this conflict with 23 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:09,959 Speaker 2: these strikes and Iran. The strikes and kutar have done 24 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 2: to the LNG market as a whole. 25 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 6: So we buy LNG regularly. We're the largest import of 26 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 6: ellerg into the country of Columbia for our power plants. 27 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 6: Before the escalation in this war. We're buying at ten 28 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 6: to eleven dollars in MMBBT and we just bought last 29 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 6: week at twenty dollars and then I saw trades print 30 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 6: yesterday at thirty dollars, and so that is just a 31 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 6: huge escalation in price. And it's basically fear of not 32 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:40,320 Speaker 6: getting cargoes. 33 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 3: Drawing on your experience in the industry, I saw on 34 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 3: the ft there was a headline this is an armageddon 35 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 3: scenario for the gas industry. Have you seen anything like 36 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 3: this before? I guess the closest analogy that I can 37 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 3: grab for is what happened a couple of years ago 38 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 3: with the launch of Russia's inclusion in Ukraine. How different 39 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 3: is this? How much more devastating is this? Potentially? 40 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 6: So a couple of things. One of the problems in 41 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 6: Europe is they didn't have the import terminals, and so 42 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:05,639 Speaker 6: they had to ask your rush to build the import 43 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:09,839 Speaker 6: terminals straight through permitting really fast the import terminals where 44 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 6: they need to be at the moment. Now it's access 45 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 6: to actually cargoes on the water. Katar's seventeen to twenty 46 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 6: percent of global trade. The actual facility has only had 47 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:23,359 Speaker 6: a certain number of trains. We still don't have clear information. 48 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 3: Don't have the details yet, but. 49 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 2: As straight is what you need to make it shipable? 50 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 6: Yeah, so that the train takes the gas, takes it 51 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 6: to a very low temperature a liquid, then puts it 52 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 6: into the vessel. But if the vessel can't get into 53 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:38,360 Speaker 6: the strait, it can't pick it up. And it's a 54 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 6: perishable item as well. LNG runs out, it evaporates, so 55 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 6: if it's not getting taken out on the ships, they 56 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 6: have to shut it in and then shut it in 57 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 6: at the well. So then it's going to take time 58 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 6: to restart as well. 59 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:53,359 Speaker 2: What's your sense of how long it's going to take 60 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 2: to get some of those facilities back online? And then 61 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 2: do you have any indication, as you know, someone who's 62 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 2: a big player in this industry of when those boats 63 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 2: are going to start moving? 64 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:04,919 Speaker 6: So you know, I was talking to my construction company 65 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 6: that's building my facility in Texas and nobody really knows 66 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 6: what needs to be repaired at the moment if you're 67 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 6: on the outside, because it's not that well, no one's 68 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:18,359 Speaker 6: got people in there on the customer side doing the inspect. 69 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 2: So probably don't want to telegraph. 70 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 6: But it could take three to five years because building 71 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:26,799 Speaker 6: something from scratch versus fixing something that's already built is 72 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 6: a lot more complicated. And so if it takes three 73 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 6: to five years, the main problem is just one or 74 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 6: two trains. Isn't the end of the world. It's just 75 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 6: getting this straight open again. So once the straight to 76 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 6: open again, that'll be the main downward pressure back on price. 77 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 3: You're at work on projects in Texas and in Alaska, 78 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 3: so before we get in maybe the granular details of those, 79 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 3: what does all of this mean for the natural gas 80 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 3: market the industry here in the US as you sit 81 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 3: from your advantage watching what's unfolding in the Middle East. 82 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 6: So as an industry with domestic natural gas, has been 83 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 6: a desire to get what we call more on the 84 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 6: water to get exposed or a broader range of indices, 85 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 6: and that's going to continue, right But Henry Hub is 86 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 6: only impacted so much by exports and every cargo that 87 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 6: can be export is already being exported, So I don't 88 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 6: see it driving a huge outcome on Henry Hub immediately. 89 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:23,600 Speaker 6: That'll be driven by other issues. But it does say 90 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 6: that more LNG projects can come online, which will then 91 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:30,119 Speaker 6: put upward pressure on long term Henry hub prices quickly. 92 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 3: Here again I drew this analogy to the Ukraine War. 93 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:35,719 Speaker 3: Did that have a catalytic effect here in the US 94 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 3: and kind of changing the direction of the industry when 95 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:41,280 Speaker 3: that conflict got underwag just a few years ago, Well. 96 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:45,279 Speaker 6: Many projects were sitting in permitting doldrum and they couldn't 97 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 6: attract financing through covid LERG prices went down to two 98 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 6: dollars fifty delivered. We're talking about twenty five dollars now, 99 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 6: So that's a ten x swing coming out of covid 100 00:04:56,080 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 6: at prices that low. And then Ukraine War hadn't happened, 101 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 6: and there was a slow things that slowed down. Post that, 102 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:06,480 Speaker 6: everything's come back and the US is the most secure 103 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:07,839 Speaker 6: place to buy L and G from. 104 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 7: It's just it just is. 105 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 2: The President has said recently that the US doesn't need 106 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 2: the straight mor energy independent, we don't need it, But 107 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 2: that's not quite true, right, it seems like it would 108 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:20,719 Speaker 2: be helpful if that was moving, even for US companies 109 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 2: like yourself, just to bring the overall prices down. 110 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 6: Well, I think everyone wants lower energy prices. As an 111 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:28,160 Speaker 6: L and G guy, you might think I want a 112 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 6: hike LNG price, But lower prices has more demand, and 113 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 6: I'm more of an infrastructure player. I want to sell 114 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 6: long term energy. Sure, everyone wants a little bit of 115 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:42,600 Speaker 6: volatility to make some money. So when energy prices come down, 116 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 6: I think we all benefit, and that's what will happen 117 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 6: from the Strait. But as a domestic as a nation here, 118 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 6: we've got all the energy we need. 119 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 3: Let me give you a minute to talk your book here. 120 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 3: So you've got this project in Alaska, as we talk 121 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:57,039 Speaker 3: about the way that the global energy markets being affected 122 00:05:57,080 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 3: by all of this would or what does that project 123 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 3: offer for two, say, customers or clients in Asia who 124 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 3: are looking at the very real prospect of because of 125 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:07,279 Speaker 3: what's happening in the Strait of war moves feeling like 126 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:09,159 Speaker 3: they don't have ready or reliable. 127 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:10,160 Speaker 5: Access to the natural gas that they need. 128 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:14,039 Speaker 6: So Alaska a little bit of background on the project. Right, 129 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 6: it's a very large project. It's twenty million tons peranum, 130 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 6: which is a very significant size project. It's a two 131 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 6: phase project. A pipeline to bring gas from the north 132 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 6: slope down to let's call in the south near Anchorage, 133 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 6: and then an LERG facility to export it. So two 134 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:35,839 Speaker 6: phase project. The pipeline is ready to build stage now 135 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 6: and the LNG facility is about twelve months away. The 136 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 6: whole thing is fully engineered, all permits, all rights of way. 137 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 6: It's had a billion and a half dollar spent preparing it, 138 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 6: and the customers in Asia like it. Because it's a 139 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:50,799 Speaker 6: seven day sale to Japan, ten day sales. 140 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 2: To Tenage hasn't hit really hard, especially by this street. 141 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 6: In particular, India and China are heavy buyers of Katari 142 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 6: LNG career and China and India heavy buyers of Kadari 143 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 6: Japan and career less. But it's still cargo is being 144 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 6: taken out of the market, and so if we can 145 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 6: take it down from Alaska, it's close, it's secure, it's 146 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 6: a US cargo that's protected five days sailing in US waters. 147 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 6: It's a good thing for our allies. 148 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 2: Quickly before we let you go. Critics say that there 149 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 2: are no buyers right now and the price tag is 150 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 2: likely much higher than what you're projecting. 151 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 6: What's your response to that, Well, I know because I'm 152 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 6: selling LNG out of the Gulf Coast, I'm selling it 153 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 6: out of Alaska. We can offer excellent prices, and I 154 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 6: can tell the interest right now is there's upward pressure 155 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 6: on that Probably. 156 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 7: A good moment to pitching this lice to see Brendan Duvall. 157 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 5: Thank you very much for joining us. 158 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 3: Brendan on his way to Sarah week in Houston, of course, 159 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 3: with so many other energy executives. For this contact that 160 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 3: we were talking about Daniel Jrgen just a few weeks ago, 161 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 3: really going to be the nexus of a lot of 162 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 3: these conversations. I think you're over the course of the 163 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 3: next few week and we'll have coverage all across our 164 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 3: Bloomberg platforms as that event gets underway. Stay with us 165 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 3: for more on Bloomberg this weekend. 166 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 7: Right after this, it is week three of the war 167 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 7: in Iran. 168 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 2: But President Trump is now, as we just mentioned, possibly 169 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 2: setting his sites on a new goal abroad, and that's 170 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 2: taking Cuba. Cuban president has acknowledged talks with the Trump 171 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 2: administration are ongoing as it feels pressure from an oil 172 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 2: blockade and a power blackout. 173 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 3: Earlier this week, I sat down with Arnesto Sobroun Gusman. 174 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 3: He is Cuba's ambassador to the United Nations, and we 175 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 3: talked about Havana's position toward US talks. Take a listen. 176 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 3: President Trump said, quote, I do believe I will be 177 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 3: having the honor of taking Cuba. 178 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 8: I do believe I'll be the honor of having the 179 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 8: honor of taking Cuba would be honor. That's a big 180 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:52,680 Speaker 8: honor of taking Cuban. Taking Cuban in some form. Yah, 181 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 8: taking Cuba. I mean whether I free it, take it. 182 00:08:57,280 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 2: I think I could do anything I want with it. 183 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 3: What is your reaction action to some of the rhetoric 184 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:02,680 Speaker 3: that we've heard from the President of the United States. 185 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 9: Well, you know, during the last three months, almost every 186 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 9: day President Trump or Secretary of State Marco Ruio said 187 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 9: something like this, freendly, take cover, take cover. We are negotiating. 188 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 9: We are not negotiating. We are ready to bomb and 189 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 9: destroy every thing. And for us, we have been very 190 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 9: Our position is clear, Crystal. You know, our president announced 191 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 9: last Friday that we're recently starting a dialogue between official 192 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 9: of the Qan government official of the US government, based 193 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 9: on equal footing, respect or sovereignity, respect of independence, and 194 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:48,319 Speaker 9: respect of not interference in internal affairs at. 195 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 3: This moment, what is the best outcome for you for 196 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:53,560 Speaker 3: Cuba from those talks? What do you hope comes out? 197 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:56,960 Speaker 9: You know, as we also said, we are indeed as 198 00:09:57,000 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 9: part of the dialogue, we are identifying the issues, the 199 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 9: main issues where we have difference. 200 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 10: So once we identified. 201 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 9: Those issues, we are in a position to find solutions 202 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:10,679 Speaker 9: for those different and at the same time, we are 203 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:16,560 Speaker 9: in a position also to identify areas where we can 204 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:20,960 Speaker 9: cooperate in benefit of the mutual part. Because usually people 205 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 9: talk that a conversation between Qube and the US is 206 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 9: only beneficial for Cuba, and it is not. 207 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:31,079 Speaker 10: It's beneficial for both parts. Like we proof in the past. 208 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:33,079 Speaker 3: You talked about what's on the table and what isn't. 209 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:35,199 Speaker 3: So we had the Secretary of State saying Cuba has 210 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 3: to put new people in charge. Is Cuba willing to 211 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:41,199 Speaker 3: make changes to senior leadership to a piece of the 212 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 3: United States? 213 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:43,560 Speaker 10: Not at all, As I told you, this is part. 214 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:47,560 Speaker 9: The only people that has the right to elect our 215 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 9: leadership is the Cuban people. So no one will come 216 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 9: to tell us you have to do this or do 217 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 9: that in this regard, you know. So, it is part 218 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 9: of we are not asking the US that they have 219 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 9: to change their leadership. So it's it's an issue of independence, 220 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 9: you know. It's we are an independent country and no 221 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:07,559 Speaker 9: one can tell us what we can do in this. 222 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:11,439 Speaker 9: This is something that we have to to get by ourselves. 223 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 3: Your president said this earlier this week. Any external aggressor 224 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 3: will encounter resistancia in expugnable, an indomitable resistance. It's your 225 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 3: job at the UN is to explain to the world 226 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 3: the policies of your government. What is an indomitable resistance 227 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 3: from Cuban look like. 228 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 9: That means that we are ready for any scenarios, you know. 229 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 9: We we really want to have this dialogue. It is 230 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 9: not a new position of the Quban government. It is 231 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 9: a very long standing position of the Queban government that 232 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 9: we consider that the best option for both parts is 233 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 9: two different to have a different kind of relation, you know. So, 234 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 9: and we are open to talk about everything. We are 235 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:55,839 Speaker 9: not telling that we can. We can talk about everything. 236 00:11:57,280 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 9: Based on what I told you, not interfin internal affair 237 00:11:59,920 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 9: but if you want to talk about the human rights, 238 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 9: we are ready to talk about human rights. You have 239 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 9: the US government has concerned about human rights in Cuba. Okay, 240 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 9: we have concerned also about human rights in the US. 241 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 9: Something happens in Minnesota or in some other agias, So 242 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 9: we can talk about this. If you want to talk 243 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 9: about democracy, we are ready to talk about democracy also 244 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 9: with the US government, you know. But so this is 245 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:30,960 Speaker 9: our position. But at the same time, we are ready 246 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:34,679 Speaker 9: for some of the resentators because we sofferre aggression from 247 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 9: the US government in the past, so we know about 248 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 9: that and we have to be ready for it. 249 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 10: So when the. 250 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 9: President said that, that means that we are ready to talk. 251 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 9: This is our main position. But if someone tried to 252 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 9: invade Cuba, or if someone try to make an aggression 253 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:55,720 Speaker 9: to Cuba, they will find the whole people, ten million 254 00:12:55,800 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 9: people ready to defend our sovereignity, our independence. 255 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:02,679 Speaker 3: Let's talk a bit about the oil blockade that's been 256 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 3: in place. The last shipment that you got of oil 257 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 3: was in January that came from Mexico. Before that, in December, 258 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 3: you got a shipment from Venezuela. Of course, circumstances have changed, 259 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 3: used to rely on twenty five thousand barrels a day 260 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 3: from Venezuela. That's gone. What has the impact of that 261 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:19,680 Speaker 3: the oil blockade imposed by the United States been on 262 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 3: the country of Cuba over these last couple of months. 263 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 10: It has a huge impact. The first question here. 264 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 9: Is do the government of the US has the right 265 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 9: to impose a blockade like this? Do they have the 266 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 9: right to set a third country that they can sell 267 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 9: or not oil to Cuba. I think that they have 268 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:43,080 Speaker 9: not the right, and this is not that they are 269 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:48,080 Speaker 9: violating the international though, the international humanitarian Law, the Charter 270 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:51,840 Speaker 9: of the UN, the rules of the Foreign trades. We 271 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 9: have ninety six thousand people that are waiting for a 272 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:59,200 Speaker 9: surger because we don't have electricity or oil to have 273 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 9: electricity in the hospital, around eleven thousand of them children. 274 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:09,680 Speaker 9: We have more than thirty thousand women pregnant women's waiting 275 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 9: for the ultrasound because also lack of electricity. But you 276 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 9: need electricity to produce food, you need an electricity to 277 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 9: punk water, you need electricity for food, transportation, to transport people, 278 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 9: you need electricity for almost everything. So here we are 279 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 9: looking a collective punishment to a whole country just because 280 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 9: another country they want to change the government of Cuba. 281 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 3: Who do you count as a close friend of Cuba 282 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 3: at this moment when there is so much scrutiny of 283 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 3: the island country by the United States? 284 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 9: Well as an ambassador at the UN, I can tell 285 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 9: you that we count with the support of the majority 286 00:14:58,640 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 9: of the countries all. 287 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 3: Over around the you're hearing that from me, yes, no other, 288 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 3: not only here. 289 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 9: We have an statement of the seventy seven and China 290 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 9: contemning this policy. The seventy seven and China is the 291 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 9: largest group of member state in the UN one and 292 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 9: thirty four CONTs. 293 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 3: Are you disappointed China isn't doing more. They're sending solar equipment, 294 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 3: for instance, But do you wish that they would take 295 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 3: a stronger stand? 296 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 10: Not at all. 297 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 9: We have been receiving political support for the minority of 298 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 9: the country, but at the same time we have receiving 299 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 9: some of the support from many countries you mentioned China, Vietnam, Mexico, Rossia, Brazil, Chile, 300 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 9: the Caribbean countries. The UN system is also working now 301 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 9: to try to. 302 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 10: Implement this. 303 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 9: When a country offer some kind of aid, they are 304 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 9: trying to be like a bridge. 305 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 3: What is your message to the American people at this 306 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 3: moment as we hear again the President making bellocost statements 307 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 3: from the White House, what would you say to American 308 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 3: people who were watching this and hearing from the administration 309 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 3: that things are bound to change in Cuba in the 310 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 3: near term. 311 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 9: Well, you know, yesterday I read a poll that said 312 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 9: that only twenty eight percent of the American people support 313 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 9: this kind of policy of their government towards Cuba. So 314 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 9: I will said to the rest the seventy two percent 315 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 9: that doesn't support this policy, that please continuous pushing, continues, 316 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 9: raising your voice in favor of a different kind of 317 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 9: relation between Cuba and the US. It is possible and 318 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 9: it is beneficial for both parts. 319 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 3: Lastly, what gives you optimism that this will be resolved? 320 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 3: How grave is this moment? And what gives you optimism 321 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 3: that this is going to resolve itself in a way 322 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 3: that will be peaceable. 323 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 9: Because this is not the first time that we face 324 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 9: a situation like this. We have been the unfortunately, we 325 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:08,360 Speaker 9: have been UH facing UH this kind of policy for 326 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:11,440 Speaker 9: many years. I lost the account of how many presidents 327 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:15,639 Speaker 9: of the US try to change the government in Cuba, 328 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:19,720 Speaker 9: and we are still here and uh, as I told you, 329 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:26,120 Speaker 9: uh we for us, there is only one option resists 330 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:30,120 Speaker 9: and and and to to keep and to prove that 331 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 9: it is possible to be different. We are not better, 332 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:39,200 Speaker 9: We are not worse than the US government or than 333 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:40,119 Speaker 9: the US people. 334 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:42,439 Speaker 10: We are just different people. 335 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 9: We we just want to try to build our own 336 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 9: future from our own perspective. 337 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 5: Thank you. 338 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 3: Yeah. Fascinating to talk to him as we hear all 339 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 3: this rhtoric from the administration. I asked too, he was 340 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 3: talking to who Cuba is talking to in the US side. 341 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 3: He said he didn't know, and that wasn't important. 342 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 2: Stay with us for more on Bloomberg this weekend right 343 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 2: after this. 344 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 11: Do you guys know this book? 345 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 5: Yeah? I don't. 346 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 2: All right, So this is by the guy who wrote 347 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 2: The Martian. This is Project Hail Mary. This movie is 348 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 2: out this weekend. It is about a reluctant school teacher 349 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:33,640 Speaker 2: scientist who gets launched literally into space against his will 350 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:35,919 Speaker 2: and has to go save humanity. And he ends up 351 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 2: there for reasons I'm not going to get into by himself, 352 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 2: except all of a sudden he gets some help from 353 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:45,159 Speaker 2: something from another planet. It's a great book. I'm hopeful 354 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:46,879 Speaker 2: the movie's gonna be just as awesome. And you know 355 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 2: House was great. Was author Andy Weir, who sat down 356 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 2: with us, talked about how he gets his ideas and 357 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 2: also how despite all of his success, the puppet got 358 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 2: a better hotel room than he did on the press tour. 359 00:18:57,920 --> 00:18:59,880 Speaker 2: When you were pitching this to your publishers, you said, 360 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 2: I got an idea for a guy who's kind of 361 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 2: trapped in space by himself, and he's got a like 362 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 2: science his way out of it. At any point did 363 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 2: they say to you, dude, you already wrote this book. 364 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 12: Yeah, you already wrote that. Well, I mean I pitched 365 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 12: it to him as like, I've got a first contact story, 366 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:16,399 Speaker 12: an interstellar travel and stuff like that, and you know 367 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 12: he's not alone. 368 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 2: Was there a debate about whether or not to reveal 369 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:22,239 Speaker 2: the alien in the movie trailers and things like that, 370 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:24,239 Speaker 2: because there was so how did that go? And how 371 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 2: do you feel about that? They did reveal him. 372 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:28,640 Speaker 12: So there was a lot of discussion about that because 373 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 12: of course in the book it's a complete I had 374 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:31,439 Speaker 12: no idea. 375 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 2: I literally screamed at the book. 376 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 12: Yeah, and that's that was the intent. We wanted you 377 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 12: specifically to scream at the book, but that was a 378 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:42,919 Speaker 12: big twist, and the readers are very good about not 379 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 12: spoiling things for each other. Moviegoers are not, Like moviegoers 380 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 12: will tell each other everything. And also like, if we 381 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:53,199 Speaker 12: hid the fact that Rocky was in the movie, I 382 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 12: mean sometime, I mean by now, everybody would be talking 383 00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 12: about there's an alien in this movie, like it would 384 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 12: be general PubL acknowledge. So we thought that, plus, hey, 385 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:05,879 Speaker 12: this isn't just a story about some schlub out in 386 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 12: space by himself. This is a story that includes an 387 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 12: alien and all sorts of really cool stuff, and that 388 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:14,640 Speaker 12: we want to draw people into the theater. Things get 389 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:17,400 Speaker 12: a lot more interesting when they find out, Okay, there's 390 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:18,919 Speaker 12: an alien in this one. 391 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:21,119 Speaker 2: And it's not like a little Green Man alien. It's 392 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:23,920 Speaker 2: basically an anthropomorphized rock So. 393 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:26,159 Speaker 12: I was trying to avoid anything that looked like, you know, 394 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:27,400 Speaker 12: just a human. 395 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 2: Not getting your cap and Kirk vibes no no no. 396 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 12: I wanted an alien that was very, very alien, and 397 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 12: so I wanted his environment to be incompatible with ours 398 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 12: and vice versa. I mean, shoot that happens on earth, 399 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 12: like if you exchange the positions of a shark and 400 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:44,439 Speaker 12: a camel they're both going to die, right. 401 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:46,199 Speaker 2: And I don't know a lot about science, but I 402 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 2: know that is true. 403 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 12: You know that is true. There are very few aquatic camels. 404 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 2: To our detriment. So which comes first when you're writing 405 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 2: the science or the plot? 406 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 12: Usually the science in this case, I'll figure out something 407 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 12: that I want and then I'll kind of back calculate 408 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 12: a way to allow that and try to find the 409 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:08,359 Speaker 12: minimum little violation of like real world physics or whatever. 410 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:10,640 Speaker 2: You check your math, do you like send step out 411 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 2: to people? 412 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:13,239 Speaker 12: Okay, well, well no, I don't have other people check 413 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 12: my mind. 414 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 2: You check your own. 415 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:16,360 Speaker 12: I check my own math, and sometimes I make mistakes, 416 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:18,440 Speaker 12: and that's the way of things. There are no lives 417 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 12: writing on the line here. It's just a fictional story. 418 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 12: If I mess up, I mess up. 419 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 2: I'm a former White House correspondent, Foreign Afairs correspondent, and 420 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 2: in DC there's a book. 421 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:27,679 Speaker 12: I'm a big step down. No, this is a big 422 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:28,400 Speaker 12: step down. 423 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 2: This is the interview I've been looking forward to you 424 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 2: most for weeks. There is a book club of all 425 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 2: former or current White House producers and correspondents in DC. 426 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:40,679 Speaker 2: It's all women. We do not read sci fi. We 427 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:43,879 Speaker 2: read like smart fiction, sometimes less smart fiction. Usually it's 428 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 2: a way to escape the news cycle and drink some 429 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 2: wine and talk about our families. Someone suggested this book 430 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 2: it was a bit out of left field. My group 431 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:55,679 Speaker 2: chat is blowing up this morning with questions for you 432 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 2: because they are all completely obsessed with this. Did you 433 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:00,439 Speaker 2: know this was going to have such an appeal to 434 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:02,440 Speaker 2: folks who aren't necessarily into sci fi? 435 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 11: Well, I always try. 436 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 12: To appeal to people who aren't necessarily into sci fi. 437 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 12: I don't go out of my way. It's just my 438 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 12: mechanism of storytelling is to try to make it's I mean, yes, 439 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 12: it's a science fiction story, but it's really a story 440 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:21,479 Speaker 12: about friendship and loyalty to newfound friends. And and so 441 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:23,879 Speaker 12: I guess my brand or whatever it is is. I 442 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 12: sell optimism and like I have in real life a 443 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:32,239 Speaker 12: very high opinion of humanity, and I feel pretty good 444 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 12: about the human species and that I think we're pretty awesome. 445 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 12: And yeah, so I think that ends up having an 446 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 12: appeal to a lot of people. You don't have to 447 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:44,679 Speaker 12: be obsessed with science to enjoy these stories. 448 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 5: I hope. 449 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 2: I did get some other questions from my book club. 450 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 2: One was did you visualize Ryland being as hot as 451 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 2: Ryan Gosling. 452 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 12: I did not. Okay, to be fair, though, I don't 453 00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 12: have a very visual imagination. 454 00:22:58,280 --> 00:22:59,440 Speaker 2: I heard you talking about this. 455 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 12: This is really yeah. So I'm kind of on the 456 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 12: a Fantasiaus scale, which means like when I try to 457 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 12: visualize something, I get more of a blob. I mean, 458 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 12: it's not so they usually use that work when you're writing. 459 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 12: It's conceptual, like, so in my mind, what I'm seeing 460 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 12: is a concept like a blob of a person talking 461 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 12: to a blob of another person in a sort of 462 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:22,359 Speaker 12: a blobby undefined background. The best way to describe it 463 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 12: would be is if you've ever had a dream and 464 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 12: you know, the focus of the dream is you talking 465 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 12: to the you know, to the magical cat or whatever's 466 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 12: happening in your dream. The background, like describe the background. 467 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 12: It's like you didn't define it in your head, and 468 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:37,160 Speaker 12: so you can't really tell me what's in the background. 469 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:39,960 Speaker 12: It's just sort of this this blobby there's something there 470 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,120 Speaker 12: that but for me, it's also in the foreground. It's 471 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 12: just this concepts. 472 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 2: I mean, I personally like that about your writing because 473 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 2: it allows the reader to kind of fill in a 474 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 2: bunch of those details, which is why I think we 475 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:55,359 Speaker 2: were all so interested in seeing Rocky the alien, because 476 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 2: I had a really hard time picturing what that looks like. 477 00:23:57,840 --> 00:23:59,959 Speaker 12: I could tell you, oh, he has a pentagonal thorac 478 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 12: kind of and he has like five legs in the 479 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 12: each end and three claws, but I don't know like 480 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:08,120 Speaker 12: if his limbs were skinny or thick, or if they're 481 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 12: smooth or bumpy, or if they're symmetrical or asymmetrical. So 482 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 12: when I went to the model shop during the shoot, 483 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:16,440 Speaker 12: and when I went to the model shop and saw Rocky, 484 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 12: that was like the first time I'd seen Rocky. It 485 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 12: was like, it was like, oh, I get it. Oh, 486 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 12: so that's what Rocky looks like. Now I know. 487 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 2: That's incredible. And you and I were talking briefly earlier. 488 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:29,919 Speaker 2: It seems like Rocky might be getting better VIP treatment 489 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,119 Speaker 2: than you on the press tour. Do you want to 490 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 2: explain what you were saying to me earlier about who 491 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:37,120 Speaker 2: gets the nicer hotel sweep? Yeah, fur viewers who don't 492 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 2: know Rocky is it's a practical effect. So it's a 493 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 2: giant like puppet that's operate everything. I love practical effects. 494 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:44,400 Speaker 12: Yeah, it's as practical as it gets. I mean there's 495 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 12: CG like smoothing of the motions some and like some 496 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,440 Speaker 12: of the finger movements and stuff like that, and there's 497 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 12: plenty of CG shots, let's be clear. And also the 498 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 12: digital removal of all the sticks of pupp of piers 499 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 12: and things. But yeah, So at the junket, the media 500 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:00,360 Speaker 12: junket for this, which was in La, I was, I'm 501 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 12: feeling good about this. They got me in a real 502 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 12: nice room. You know, it's kind of a. 503 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 2: Suite in your moment. 504 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:08,399 Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, I'm an important guy. And then and then 505 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 12: like Rocky's room, because they had a room for Rocky 506 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:15,400 Speaker 12: where like reporters could go like talk to Rocky Ian 507 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,639 Speaker 12: stuff like that. Rocky got the presidential suite on the 508 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:20,720 Speaker 12: top floor. It's a penthouse. So I go up to 509 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,199 Speaker 12: a Rockies room and he's got a grand piano in 510 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 12: his room stuff like that. And I mean the reason 511 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:31,960 Speaker 12: is because they really wanted high security that puppet. It's 512 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:33,160 Speaker 12: an irreplaceable prop. 513 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 2: It's it just didn't want you feeling too good about yourself. 514 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 12: Yeah, career moment. Yeah, and Rocky gets the presidential suite. 515 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 12: I just thought that was funny. 516 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:43,400 Speaker 2: Finally, you said you are optimistic about the human race. 517 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:45,920 Speaker 2: And one of the things that I also read The Martian, 518 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 2: loved The Martian. One of the things that I think 519 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 2: was so interesting about this book is initially your rain 520 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:53,440 Speaker 2: character is kind of a weenie. He really he doesn't 521 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:55,400 Speaker 2: want to do the thing. They make him do the thing, 522 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 2: and the arc of his personal growth over time in 523 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 2: the book is quite incredible and redeeming. Is that kind 524 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:03,680 Speaker 2: of what you're hoping for the rest of us? 525 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:07,880 Speaker 12: There's no deeper meaning. I just wanted to So I'm 526 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 12: always trying to work on my character depth, complexity, and nuance, 527 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:15,200 Speaker 12: because I think that's my weakest part of writing. I'm 528 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 12: good at the science. I think I'm good at coming 529 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,680 Speaker 12: up with interesting and compelling plots, but it's my characters 530 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:22,480 Speaker 12: that I really need to like, level up on. 531 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:24,359 Speaker 2: But I would argue that's where this book really stands. 532 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:25,680 Speaker 12: Thank you, thank you, because that's how I put a 533 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 12: lot of work into it. So I appreciate it. And 534 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:29,439 Speaker 12: so I wanted. I wanted to have a flawed but 535 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:32,920 Speaker 12: likable character, and I think we've all felt that way before. 536 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 12: We've all felt like scared overwhelmed and underqualified. I mean, 537 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 12: every day man, every day as a writer, that's your 538 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 12: whole life. I mean, you know, give a man a book, 539 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:43,400 Speaker 12: you entertain him for a night, teach a man to write, 540 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:45,119 Speaker 12: you give him crippling self doubt for life. 541 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 2: Oh god, that's so true. 542 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 12: So I wanted to make him relatable and then he 543 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 12: has a redemption arc and yeah, so that was deliberate. 544 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:53,639 Speaker 8: Thank you. 545 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 12: I'm glad it landed. 546 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 2: Anything else you want to add about humanity space, I'm 547 00:26:58,280 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 2: a fan of book. 548 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 4: Stay with us for more on Bloomberg this weekend right 549 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 4: after this. 550 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:16,119 Speaker 11: So this is pointed. 551 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:18,440 Speaker 4: Okay, so you each have thirty ships in front of you. Okay, 552 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 4: Christina has thirty, David has thirty. I'm going to propose 553 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 4: a question. There are three categories. Okay, you have to 554 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,160 Speaker 4: bet your wagers based on those categories. 555 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,639 Speaker 3: That the confidence that I have that I have in 556 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 3: my knowledge of those categories correct. 557 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 4: Okay, So if you feel really good about that first category, 558 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:35,639 Speaker 4: I don't know if you want to bet at all, 559 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,439 Speaker 4: but you know, heaviers. 560 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 2: But now I'm scared because I overheard our producer working 561 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:42,479 Speaker 2: on this and he was like, oh, they're these are 562 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 2: all too easy or really really hard. 563 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:45,119 Speaker 7: We can't make them too easy. 564 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:46,159 Speaker 2: And I was like, well, don't make. 565 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 11: Them that hard. 566 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:47,480 Speaker 7: So I don't know. 567 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:48,160 Speaker 11: I'm shuck. 568 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 5: I'm shuck. 569 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,120 Speaker 3: Let's see what she shook shut the category. 570 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:52,720 Speaker 4: There we go for the categories, all right, so let's 571 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 4: get right to it. These categories are diplomacy that is 572 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:56,360 Speaker 4: the first one. 573 00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 5: Embarrassing. 574 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 11: Bankruptcy is number two. An oscars is number three. So oh, 575 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 11: he's going. 576 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:08,719 Speaker 3: Heavy the oscars despite not you. I saw a movie 577 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 3: I saw. I saw Trained Dreams Okay, very good, based 578 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,159 Speaker 3: on a Dennis Johnson novel, but not one of the 579 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 3: Marquis favorites standouts for the ninth it's in your queue. Anyways, 580 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,879 Speaker 3: I did watch the Oscars. I'm gonna go twenty on 581 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 3: that in ten on diplomacy, all. 582 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 2: Right, I'm hoping I don't embarrass myself twenty on diplomacies. 583 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 2: I am not confident in bankruptcies, and then I will 584 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:32,959 Speaker 2: hopefully not. 585 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:35,720 Speaker 11: No one's confident in bankruptcy, no putting. 586 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:37,680 Speaker 2: The companies are going bankrupt, no one's all. 587 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 4: Right, are you ready for your first place? You have 588 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 4: your whiteboards, you have your pens. 589 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 11: Get ready? 590 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 3: Here it is expo dry erase is open diplomacy. 591 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 11: Let's start there. Okay. 592 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 4: The question is this week the t Shook made a 593 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 4: traditional visit to the White House. 594 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 11: Which country does need lead? T Shuok? 595 00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 5: Can I ask you to spell it? And that will 596 00:28:58,160 --> 00:28:58,920 Speaker 5: just give it away for that? 597 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 11: Would you like a spelling? No, he's looking, he's going, 598 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 11: He's going. 599 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 4: You guys, I even see like little pictures that you're 600 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 4: doing here. 601 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 11: I'm peeking over. 602 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, I'm ready, I. 603 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 4: Think so, okay, all right, let's flip it. Okay, says 604 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 4: what country? 605 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 3: Oh sorry is a failing of mind? 606 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 5: Givid Lisa, thank you so much. 607 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 3: I know that that could have been overruled on a technicality. 608 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 11: All right, so Christina keeps her twenty, It keeps her ten. 609 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 5: We should have said who had the better shamrock? 610 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 2: I think they were both not good for our radio 611 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:34,239 Speaker 2: listeners who did not miss what he is? 612 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 4: Yes, the Prime Minister Iron called the she Shook he 613 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 4: met with President Trump, and Saint Patrick's. 614 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:40,680 Speaker 5: Say bowl of shamrocks? 615 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 11: Was the meeting was? 616 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 3: Okay? You know? 617 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:46,560 Speaker 4: He he did defend British Prime Minister Cure Starmer. Yes, 618 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:50,000 Speaker 4: President Trump criticized him, but other than that, it was 619 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 4: a wonderful meeting. 620 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 5: Fountain was bright Green. 621 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 2: The dog, right, that's the president who had the dog. 622 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 7: He went around with him everywhere. 623 00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 2: I think he's of iron Land. 624 00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, him for our next hour and we get it. 625 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 2: Sorry, continually was us on bankruptcy? 626 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:03,960 Speaker 3: Are you ready for baking? 627 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 5: Question? 628 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 11: But you didn't bet anything, either of you? 629 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:07,080 Speaker 3: Okay? 630 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 5: All right? 631 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 4: Which company that produces a fiber sometimes called lasting has 632 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 4: a last lesson? Has filed for chapter eleven? 633 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:18,480 Speaker 13: Yes, last, we're naming the fiber of the company. Which 634 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 13: company that produces the fiber sometimes called elastin has filed 635 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 13: for chapter eleven? So what is the company that produces 636 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 13: that fiber? 637 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:34,960 Speaker 5: I have my god? Okay, I don't know. 638 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 2: Ready, I have to just to pick one, to pick one, Okay, 639 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:39,080 Speaker 2: I'm gonna pick this one. Okay. 640 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:55,440 Speaker 3: I wrote chapter eleven incorporated, Yes, Lirara, yes that. 641 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 4: I thought it was Spanx and then thought, yes, the 642 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 4: maker of Spanx. Okay, so Likera, the maker of Spanx, 643 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,440 Speaker 4: you know, was struggling with the supply chain shoot since 644 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:04,360 Speaker 4: the pandemic. But again, inflation, tariffs a lot has affected 645 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 4: the company. 646 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 11: So that's why I hopefully lack. 647 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 2: Of leggings, and David Gurra's life put him at a disadvantage. 648 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:11,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, no, I don't tend to wear them. 649 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 3: No, like Winter's Run. 650 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 11: All right, are you oscars? I think we're going to 651 00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:21,480 Speaker 11: do a lot better at this. Yes, all right, Oscars. 652 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:22,000 Speaker 11: Here we go. 653 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:25,480 Speaker 4: So the two films that took home the most oscars 654 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:28,440 Speaker 4: were both distributed by which studio? 655 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:34,280 Speaker 11: So which studio? Hey, Christina betted ten? David went all 656 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 11: in on twenty. 657 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm in on this. 658 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 7: I'm not feeling good about this. 659 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:39,800 Speaker 11: Are you not feeling good? Okay? 660 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 5: And the animaniacs? 661 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 11: Are you well? Okays? 662 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 4: MGM, Christina, you got to hand over your ten. 663 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:54,920 Speaker 3: To I believe I believe MGM was the subject of 664 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 3: a joke by one Cone of O'Brien because MGM is 665 00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:59,720 Speaker 3: now Amazon's company, and I don't think they had any 666 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 3: Now they. 667 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:02,720 Speaker 2: Also the producers of projects He'll marry. 668 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 4: So let's break down, Okay, the award. So they took 669 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 4: home eleven oscars, right, six for One Battle after another, 670 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,640 Speaker 4: four for Sinners, and one for the horror film Weapons, 671 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 4: which I haven't even seen. 672 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:14,960 Speaker 11: I haven't seen that. 673 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 5: That was you know, did you watch the Oscars? 674 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:19,560 Speaker 11: I didn't know. 675 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 5: Okay, anyways, there was there was a whole sun up 676 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:21,800 Speaker 5: of it. 677 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:25,280 Speaker 2: But anyways, with the character from Weapon, yeah, she wanted yeah. 678 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:26,760 Speaker 3: Alright, alright, is there a bonus? 679 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 11: David, your head hold on ten twenty twenty? 680 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 7: Wait? 681 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 11: Okay, are we no? You've got thirty? 682 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 3: I just wanted to stack them all there the bonus round. 683 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:38,440 Speaker 4: All right, he's got thirty, Christina got twenty. We're going 684 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 4: to go for the bonus. 685 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 3: Okay, ready, ninety seconds, let's go for the bone. 686 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 2: To lose my wedding street because it's very upsetting. 687 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:43,320 Speaker 7: Okay, here we go. 688 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 11: We're going baseball. That is the categular now, all right. 689 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,680 Speaker 4: In the World Baseball Classic, Team Italy had a viral 690 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 4: home run celebration consuming which product? 691 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 11: What were they trying to this one? 692 00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 3: It wasn't the Gronies. 693 00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:01,480 Speaker 4: That would have been interesting though, been very very interesting, 694 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:05,840 Speaker 4: all right. I wrote espressosos, Yes, David, Espresso. 695 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 11: It is the espresso. 696 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 5: Well, we didn't ask the name brand. We didn't ask 697 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 5: the name brand. 698 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:16,280 Speaker 4: I object they had a whole machine in their dugout, 699 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:16,960 Speaker 4: and they would like that. 700 00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:19,280 Speaker 2: As someone whose last name is Raffini, that is the 701 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:20,480 Speaker 2: most Italian thing ever. 702 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:21,560 Speaker 7: I know. 703 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:27,840 Speaker 4: David Gera is the winner of this pointed You guys 704 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:28,840 Speaker 4: play along at home too. 705 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:29,480 Speaker 11: It's a lot of fun. 706 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 5: Actually find it where Bloomberg dot com boom. 707 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:33,040 Speaker 7: You get multiple choice. 708 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:35,160 Speaker 2: You don't have to just come up with the you do. 709 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 4: You get a little bit of help multiple choice. 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