1 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:05,800 Speaker 1: Welcome to Wired to Hunts rutt Fresh Radio, bringing you 2 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 1: the latest reports from the White Tailed Woods and now 3 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 1: your hosts, Casey Smith Tyler Jones. This is rut Fresh 4 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:17,080 Speaker 1: Radio powered by Vortex Optics. The rut has come and gone, 5 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 1: or has it? This week we're talking hunters from all 6 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 1: across the country who are either just now getting into 7 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 1: their ruts or are still seeing the tail tille signs 8 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 1: of some late rut action. This is rut Fresh Radio 9 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:41,479 Speaker 1: powered by Vortex Optics. I'm your host Casey Smith. Tyler 10 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:44,200 Speaker 1: Jones is here as well, and we have the illustrious 11 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 1: Mark Kenyon on the phone telling us all about his 12 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:53,160 Speaker 1: December plans. Here, Mark, how is thanks to Thanksgiving us great, 13 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 1: got to spend some time in the family, got to 14 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 1: get in the woods a little bit. Um, there's everything 15 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 1: you can us for. Yeah, good man. Did you embrace 16 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:06,040 Speaker 1: gun season? Uh? Sort of? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I guess 17 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:09,120 Speaker 1: I would say I do embrace gun season. You know. 18 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 1: I leave some of my best spots alone, usually at 19 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:13,680 Speaker 1: the beginning of gun seasons, so that they kind of 20 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:17,199 Speaker 1: become a sanctuary. But then once the pressure lays down, 21 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:22,320 Speaker 1: I tend to sneak out for careful hunts and uh 22 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:24,960 Speaker 1: I've done that here recently. Yeah. Cool, Well enough about 23 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 1: deer hunting. Do you'all have Thanksgiving noodles? Where are you from? 24 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 1: Thanksgiving noodles? Yeah? Exactly. It's not a thing. It's not 25 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 1: a thing. So you've met Eric, right, um Eric, he 26 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:42,119 Speaker 1: spears by Thanksgiving noodles and it's literally cream of chicken 27 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 1: soup with noodles in it. And it does not look 28 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 1: very good. So Illinois. Yeah, yeah, they acted like it 29 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 1: was like a northern thing. You know, everybody hands should 30 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 1: know that, you know. Well, no, no, no, no, no, 31 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 1: I'm pleased. I'm pleased. What is the best Thanksgiving food 32 00:01:57,360 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 1: in your opinion? Like the single dish that's the best. Yeah, 33 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 1: but but you know, make it actual Thanksgiving top stuff? 34 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 1: Oh man. Because there's three things that form like the 35 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 1: trifecta for me, and it's hard to from the three. 36 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 1: But fact it can be it's singularity or it's like 37 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:23,640 Speaker 1: the trinity, it's it's one is three. So speaking speaking 38 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 1: from the gospel here, the trinity of turkey stuffing and 39 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:31,239 Speaker 1: mass potatoes is just the thing. I mean, I will 40 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 1: eat that three food combo for days and days, like 41 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 1: I'll eat the main meal, and then I like to 42 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 1: put them all on a sandwich, and then later I'll 43 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 1: do like an open face sandwich. And then sometimes i'll 44 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: do like day four or five, I'll go back to 45 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 1: the original, just regular dinner style and that it's just 46 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 1: the best man, just all about that Thanksgiving sandwich. Ross. 47 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 1: Ross is a good dude. Done done deep Yeah, man, scientist, 48 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:02,679 Speaker 1: you know he's cool like me. So did you bring 49 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 1: a Thanksgiving sandwich to stay with you? No? But I 50 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:09,639 Speaker 1: do eat them just before heading out. The little messes. 51 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:17,079 Speaker 1: Those they call those swich Oh. Man, there's getting worse 52 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 1: by the week. That's funny. Getting We're getting tired, man, 53 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 1: it's getting getting late in the season. You know. So 54 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 1: what do you have on the horizon here for next week? Mark, Well, 55 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 1: I got two things going on. Um, you know, there's 56 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 1: still some of that late running action. I've actually been 57 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 1: seeing on some of my Michigan spots, um kind of 58 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 1: kind of light. There's definitely that transition. So I've seen 59 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 1: the transition of a lot of deer refocusing on food. 60 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 1: So the good food sources that are just keen in 61 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 1: right now, which has been for me, some green food 62 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 1: sources and like cut beans. Actually has been lighting up 63 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 1: like all of a sudden, big groups of deer back 64 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 1: on those food sources. So I've been heading out the 65 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 1: last a couple of times. I was out just before 66 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 1: Thanksgiving for hunt, and then just after I got back 67 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 1: from the Thanksgiving holiday, I went out for another hunt 68 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 1: and then also glassed a couple of nights and saw 69 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 1: one of the target bucks I've been after um out 70 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 1: in daylight, kind of pushing dose around slash feedings. It's 71 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 1: not like chasing like crazy, but he's still sent check 72 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 1: in does UM. So the action is still on in 73 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 1: Michigan here and there where you can find the pockets 74 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 1: of unpressured deer, which which I found here UM. And 75 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 1: then so I'm doing I'm actually hunting that buck again 76 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:34,480 Speaker 1: tonight with my son. I've been trying to kill this 77 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 1: deer and my son um, which would be a pretty 78 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 1: special thing. So that's Michigan. And then I'm going to 79 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 1: Ohio probably tomorrow. Their guns season just opened up, uh 80 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:48,600 Speaker 1: at the beginning of this week. So I'm gonna go 81 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 1: down there and throw a couple of hunts at my 82 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 1: properties down at that neck of the woods, and again 83 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 1: you know, hoping for maybe some late writing action or 84 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 1: if nothing else, um, other gun hunters pushing stuff around 85 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 1: and getting something that's from these sanctuary zones where I've 86 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 1: got some really good cover that should provide security for 87 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 1: a buck or two, I would hope, And uh, that's 88 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:11,840 Speaker 1: I'll be pinning my hopes on. Are you seeing any um, 89 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 1: freshly worked scrapes anywhere? I'm seeing them come back to scrapes. Yes, 90 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 1: so definitely the scraping action went way down for the 91 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 1: last probably three weeks on most of the cameras and 92 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 1: places I'm walking around and stuff. But it seems to 93 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:30,280 Speaker 1: be picking back up a little bit. Well, it sounds 94 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:32,600 Speaker 1: like you had an exciting week or so coming up. 95 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 1: We're actually trying to figure out how to see a 96 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 1: deer while hunting in the next week. We're kind of like, 97 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:41,840 Speaker 1: it's hard to call it that, but we're kind of 98 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 1: in the lockdown portion of where we live. Uh it's 99 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:50,160 Speaker 1: not as pronounced uh because he's always running activity, you know, 100 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 1: kind of throughout the fall are are just isn't as 101 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:55,599 Speaker 1: uh peak. I guess you would say, you know, the 102 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:59,159 Speaker 1: bell carver doesn't go as high. But um, overall, our 103 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:01,040 Speaker 1: dear movement is down right now. We're also having the 104 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:04,160 Speaker 1: Indian summer right now to tomorrow it's gonna be seventy five. 105 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 1: I just saw which is we had. We had really 106 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 1: good weather in late November, but as we push into 107 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 1: early December here, we uh we have some kind of 108 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:15,480 Speaker 1: warm weather as well, so we're kind of dealing with that. 109 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 1: But uh, either way, the hunt must go on. Man, 110 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:21,720 Speaker 1: we have some hunting to do. So this week we 111 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 1: actually talked to got some all over the country, right, Tyler, Yeah, 112 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 1: we talked to actually right here in our neck of 113 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:32,039 Speaker 1: the woods, Mr Troy Waldron from Texas. Uh. We got 114 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 1: Tony Treach on the phone to to tell us what 115 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:37,479 Speaker 1: the deals in Colorado. I know Mark, you spent some 116 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:41,160 Speaker 1: time with him last year learning his ways. Um, we 117 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:44,280 Speaker 1: got Garrett Praul who has been up in Minnesota and 118 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 1: oh WE'RENNI because Strickland from Mississippi giving us a report 119 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:50,600 Speaker 1: down there. So we got them from all over uh 120 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 1: the US, and I think some of these southern states 121 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 1: are gonna start having some good reports for us coming up. 122 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 1: As you see some of these ruts starting to phase 123 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 1: in and those weird stay It's like Mississippi, Alabama, Louisiana, 124 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 1: you know, those those Gulf coast states. So pretty excited 125 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 1: to see some bucks hitting the dirt from down there, 126 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 1: and uh, I don't know, it kind of gives me 127 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 1: hope for uh some late season you know, potential places 128 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 1: that we might go as well too, So I love it. Yeah, man, 129 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what I do like the late season. Like, 130 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 1: of course, the ruts sexy and it's fun. But the 131 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:26,239 Speaker 1: late season, if you have those spots, you can find 132 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 1: those spots where they're not where they haven't been harassed NonStop, 133 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 1: it can be really really good. They become predictable. And 134 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 1: if Casey doesn't die in the next hour or two, 135 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:38,559 Speaker 1: I think you guys could be in for some terrific 136 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 1: on it this morning if he does. If he does die, 137 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 1: then I'll still be able to hunt in play season. 138 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 1: There's always a silver life. I finally get the good spot, 139 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 1: you know, but no Ick Truck episode, we can actually 140 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 1: you know, incorporate the harst and you can give me 141 00:07:55,880 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 1: my final goodbye, you know, well before that happens, you know, 142 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 1: I definitely hope to hope to get out and shoot 143 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 1: some deer. The uh the December is has been a 144 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 1: pretty good month for me overall throughout my hunting time 145 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 1: for sure. So I like it. Man, if you like 146 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 1: you you were saying this earlier, Mark, But if you 147 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 1: can find a place that's just not super pressured or 148 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 1: hasn't had the pressure for one reason another, where it's private, 149 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 1: public doesn't matter. Um, those deer can you know, they're 150 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 1: gonna always be interested even through the end of the 151 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 1: year in a lot of places in it and some 152 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 1: sort of a hot doough if it if it ends 153 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 1: up being that that's the case in your area, and 154 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 1: then there's always just the consistency of that uh you know, 155 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:43,959 Speaker 1: especially once it gets cold, that bed to feed. So 156 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:48,439 Speaker 1: it makes things patternable for analytic guys. It works really well, 157 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 1: you know, so analytical guys anyway. And then there's there's 158 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 1: this old product that like I don't know, Hunter Specialties 159 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 1: or something made like years and years ago. I think 160 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 1: it's called it the cough Catcher or something, and you 161 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 1: just whenever you get a cough, you you just cough 162 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:04,680 Speaker 1: right to that thing and it eliminates the sound and 163 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 1: it makes podcast episodes much more palatable. So next time 164 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 1: you should have put that on your Christmas list. Add 165 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 1: here a little bit next time. Okay, well, we expect 166 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 1: that you bring one of those down to Texas, you know, 167 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 1: for Casey's Christmas present, Like thank you' blowing your grunt 168 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:27,200 Speaker 1: call and it's actually just not making any sound at all. 169 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 1: All right, Well, let's get these guys on the phone. 170 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us again this week, Mark, and I'm 171 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 1: sure we'll be talking to you saying sounds good. All right, 172 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 1: I'm talking to Tony treats a lot of guys know 173 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 1: this dude. He's a hardcore hunter. I think it's appropriate 174 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 1: to say that he's a guy that gets after it 175 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 1: as much as any working man out there does. Tony, 176 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 1: what's been going on? Man? Well, yeah, but I'm about done. 177 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 1: So yep, it's it's time to go back to the 178 00:09:56,679 --> 00:10:00,199 Speaker 1: real life and actually makes some money. Yeah do you? 179 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 1: Uh so are you done until pretty much next fall? Well, 180 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 1: I do still have a Colorado you're tagging in my 181 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 1: pocket because I didn't I didn't find what I was 182 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 1: looking forward when I was there, So I might be 183 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 1: going back if I can convince the wife let me 184 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 1: go for a week in December. Uh, but that that's 185 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: yet to be determined. Yeah, for sure, So Colorado I 186 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 1: didn't know if we'd have a guy to talk about 187 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:29,199 Speaker 1: Colorado white tails this year, and we already had Heartland's 188 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 1: uh Harland bow Hunters Mike hunt Sucker on the podcast 189 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 1: talk about it. But I'm I came across the fact 190 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:36,440 Speaker 1: that you've been out there. I know you guys hunt 191 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 1: quite differently most of the time, and so I wanted 192 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:41,959 Speaker 1: to get your perspective on this. Um, you know, tell 193 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:44,079 Speaker 1: us a little bit about what you're seeing this past 194 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:47,319 Speaker 1: week out there. So I was in the Eastern Plains 195 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 1: and uh, the rut was in full swing. Lots of 196 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 1: bucks on lockdown, which for me and the type of 197 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 1: hunting that we're doing with decoys in the in the 198 00:10:56,000 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 1: Eastern Plains, Uh, it was fantastic. Um. I would imagine that, 199 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 1: you know, if you're sitting in a tree stand, it's 200 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 1: probably not gonna be what you want to be happening, 201 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 1: because there's gonna be bucks. Maybe you've been pattering, they 202 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:09,199 Speaker 1: are going to disappear and just all of a sudden 203 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:12,560 Speaker 1: going to be off the radar and they've got that dough. Uh, 204 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 1: you know on lockdown somewhere some goofy spot that maybe 205 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 1: you know you're typically using because because that's what he 206 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 1: wants to do. He wants to keep them all the himself. 207 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 1: So for a tree stand hunters, it might have been 208 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 1: tough hunting. Um, for us, it was. It was great, 209 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 1: minus the fact that I just couldn't find one that 210 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 1: I wanted. Uh, but that's just has to do more 211 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 1: with the area I'm hunting. There was there was a 212 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 1: lot of activity. Uh, I would say have probably subordinate bucks. Uh, 213 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:43,199 Speaker 1: you know, through a lot of three year olds, maybe 214 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 1: occasional four year olds that just uh we weren't the 215 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:50,440 Speaker 1: dominant buccaneer around the food sources there was. It seems 216 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 1: like if you could find you know, the planes have 217 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 1: been pretty darn and dry this year, and both Kansas 218 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 1: and Colorado were just dryer than I've ever seen it. 219 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 1: And if you didn't have food, uh, boy, it was 220 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:07,199 Speaker 1: pretty tough. They were. They were definitely you know, congregated 221 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 1: around areas. The few areas that had standing CRP grass 222 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 1: um because a lot of people down there it was 223 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 1: so dry they actually had to bail it up to 224 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:19,680 Speaker 1: feed their cattle otherwise cattle day and those few standing 225 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 1: CRP fields and those few uh semi green alf Delpa 226 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 1: fields were just I mean they were hubs of activity. 227 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 1: M So would that be a situation where um, you're hunting, 228 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:35,680 Speaker 1: you know, close to that egg, but looking for those 229 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 1: places and glassing the stuff. It's like those little lockdown 230 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 1: hottie holes. Yep. Yeah, I know. The hardest part for 231 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 1: me was actually gaining permission uh to those fields they 232 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:49,679 Speaker 1: you know that the areas that that the deer were 233 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:53,439 Speaker 1: actually using. Uh, we couldn't gain access to. So every 234 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:56,560 Speaker 1: book that we even considered you know, mature and uh 235 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 1: one that was when we wanted, we couldn't. We couldn't hunt. 236 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 1: But yeah, if you had, if you had access to 237 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:05,559 Speaker 1: h the few grassy areas that a few areas that 238 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 1: held enough you know, tawna up brush to to to 239 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 1: bet where they could bed uh and the planes there. Man, 240 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:16,320 Speaker 1: you you were having a good week. Yeah. So, um, 241 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 1: let's talk a little bit about that decoy strategy that 242 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 1: you use. I think that a lot of people are 243 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 1: intrigued by that, and I would really specifically like to 244 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 1: talk about how you use the wind in those situations, 245 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:30,559 Speaker 1: because those are teer bucks are so smart even on lockdown, right, 246 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 1: So how do you approach buck in that situation? So well? 247 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 1: Like I always say, the number one rule when you're 248 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 1: using the decoy is you just gotta be able to 249 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 1: see where they're betting. And in a lockdown phase. That 250 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 1: almost becomes easier in the planes because they do pick 251 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 1: random spots. Maybe it's out in the middle of a 252 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 1: cut corn field, or it's up milo fielder along an 253 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 1: open fence line that you know, some guys will typically 254 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 1: look at it and well, that might be a good 255 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 1: about to kick up a pheasant. But that's about it. 256 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:55,720 Speaker 1: Those are the spots where I'm finding embedded with their 257 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 1: dough hopefully you know, maybe if you don't see them 258 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 1: at first, but you can pick them up, wepping the better. 259 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:02,679 Speaker 1: But once you got them in there and you got 260 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:05,840 Speaker 1: them bedded somewhere, as long as you have access you know, 261 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 1: around them, you know, so you can't you're not limited 262 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 1: to which direction you can come from. I do not 263 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:13,680 Speaker 1: like to come from down wind, and that, you know, 264 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:16,439 Speaker 1: for a true stand guy, that might just sound like craziness. 265 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:17,960 Speaker 1: You know, you want to always put the wind directly 266 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 1: in your favor. But you gotta remember, when they're betted down, 267 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 1: more than likely they're going to be facing down wind 268 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 1: where they can't smell. Their their weaknesses the direction they 269 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 1: can't smell. So I like to come in degree angle 270 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 1: from from up wind almost um, not you know, in 271 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 1: ninety degree. If it's kind of swirling, I'll put it. 272 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 1: If this this is all things being equal to uh, 273 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 1: and all this goes out the window. If you've got 274 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 1: let's say a train feature that you say, a small 275 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 1: cooler or a draw something you can crawl up that 276 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 1: gives you more concealment that where you can get into range. 277 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 1: If you have that, use that. But if you don't, 278 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 1: and everything else is equal, I'll and And it's you know, 279 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 1: in the planes you typically have more consistent winds out 280 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 1: cheap that wind a bit to almost a forty five 281 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 1: degree angle up window, um, whereas the wind is almost 282 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 1: blown at him, but not quite up the shoulder. They're 283 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 1: facing almost dead away, And I can use again within range, 284 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 1: get that decoy set up in the ground, you know, 285 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 1: ideally not on my boat because it's always windy in 286 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 1: the plans, And get that thing on a stake in 287 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 1: front of me and let it do its magic once 288 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 1: he sees it. And that's that's how I killed my 289 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 1: Kansas buck just last week. Yeah, that's awesome, dude. Yeah, 290 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 1: that's a good advice. I love you can tell that. 291 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 1: Like we're on a short scale. Uh, you know, we're 292 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 1: on a short podcast here, and we're trying to hurry 293 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 1: this information. But you've got so much to offer. We 294 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 1: might have to get you back on our podcast at 295 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 1: some point. But um, you know, at and in the 296 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 1: next week, do you expect that lockdown face to kind 297 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 1: of continue and the success with that style of hunting 298 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 1: to potentially be good or uh? Are things going to change? 299 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 1: You know? For for a tree stand guy in in 300 00:15:56,720 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 1: in Colorado, if you're hunting the draws, Uh, you know, 301 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 1: I would start making a transition to to food. Um, 302 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 1: I think you're just you're gonna you're gonna start seeing 303 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 1: less and less um dose uh in heat and less 304 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 1: bucks attending them and having them out in the lockdown. 305 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 1: So it might Uh, I'd say we're probably in a 306 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 1: solid transition period because where you know, if I were 307 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 1: if I were to go back out there hunting, if 308 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 1: I were to be able to get permission from the 309 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 1: wife to go out there, I'm not gonna be you know, 310 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be looking around the food. Yeah. Okay, so 311 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 1: many permissions that you have to get to go hunting. Man, 312 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 1: it's crazy to get married A yeah, no doubt. Well, uh, 313 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 1: last question, man, will scale one to ten. What do 314 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 1: you predict buck movement to be like next week? Colorado Boy, 315 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 1: that's a tough one. I would say, not as it's good, 316 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 1: you know, it's not as good as it was this week, 317 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 1: and not you know, even as you're as good as 318 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 1: it was last week. I think if you're you're gradually 319 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 1: going down, um, they'll still be a few does that 320 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 1: might keep them keep interested? And who knows, you get 321 00:16:57,600 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 1: one or two hot ones in the right spot and 322 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, every rebuccaneera could be on that 323 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:04,360 Speaker 1: one dough. So if you don't find that one dough, 324 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 1: you're probably looking at a four or five. But if 325 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 1: you can find that one last dough that is coming 326 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:12,680 Speaker 1: into the late estris um, it might be literally on fire. 327 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 1: Yeah sure, Okay, Well, great information. Thank you for hopping 328 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 1: on the phone with Tony, and I'm sure we'll be 329 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:23,120 Speaker 1: talking to again. Sounds good. Now we've got Troy Waldron. 330 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 1: He is a hunter in Texas, right here in the 331 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 1: lone Star state. Troy, what's been going on? Man. Oh no, 332 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:32,479 Speaker 1: how much. Man, it's been hunting hard every day, get 333 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:35,119 Speaker 1: out and getting out. Yeah, it's good, especially after the 334 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 1: holiday man or during the holiday. I know a lot 335 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:40,399 Speaker 1: of guys struggled to balance that. Did you do a 336 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 1: good job of that? Yeah? Yeah, so I got I've 337 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:48,440 Speaker 1: got land that is pretty accessible from my house, so yeah, 338 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 1: it's not too hard to break away, even if I 339 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:51,639 Speaker 1: just have to leave for a couple of hours to 340 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:53,119 Speaker 1: come back. So it didn't put a lot of burden 341 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:55,399 Speaker 1: on the family too much. That's cool. Well, I have 342 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 1: seen a picture of you behind a public land stud 343 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 1: and it just happens you have on an Element shirt, 344 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 1: which is just the craziest thing. Congrats man on that 345 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:09,919 Speaker 1: great deer. I appreciate it, man. Yeah, so what were 346 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 1: you doing uh to uh run across that guy? Uh? 347 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 1: I mean a lot of my tactic is great. Yeah, 348 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:22,640 Speaker 1: Like I mean, even early season into late October, I'm 349 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 1: in the timber trying to find, you know, scrapes that 350 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:29,680 Speaker 1: are pretty big or a cluster of them. So that's 351 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:32,879 Speaker 1: basically what I was doing, uh yesterday morning, and what 352 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 1: I think, in fact was doing was checking a scrape 353 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 1: line going from one betting area to to another one 354 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 1: to the north, because between those two betting areas was 355 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 1: also a big long red line. So this is a 356 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 1: little bit thicker through that open field, and I think 357 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 1: they'd like to stay in there. But that's that's what 358 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:51,200 Speaker 1: a lot of my tactic centers around is getting near 359 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:53,640 Speaker 1: or close to scrapes. A lot of times that's where 360 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 1: a lot of the deer concentrated. There's trails that come 361 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 1: together in those areas. So he came out right at 362 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 1: first light and a good shot on I mean he 363 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:04,119 Speaker 1: ran about seven yards. So yes, sir, let's go, dude, 364 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 1: I can ask anything more. So okay, So if you 365 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 1: you're hunting a scrape line, Um, how's that deer working 366 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 1: in regards to the wind? Is he working into it 367 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 1: or is he working across it? Or what do you think? Well, 368 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 1: yesterday morning was working into it. So we had a 369 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 1: north wind. It wasn't much. It was about a six 370 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 1: long hour. But um, I mean he was not far. 371 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 1: He didn't he didn't die much further. I mean he 372 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 1: was in line with that scrape. So he hit screap, 373 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 1: you walked past me. He was going to another one, 374 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 1: and then I think he was gonna work out the field. 375 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 1: But yeah, he would he would have been working into 376 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:39,159 Speaker 1: the scrape from the direction got you. So how are 377 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:42,919 Speaker 1: you able to keep him from getting your wind? It 378 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 1: was kind of off. I was to the east of him, 379 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 1: and he was working south to north with a north wind. 380 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:50,640 Speaker 1: So you know, I know I was right up where 381 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 1: I set up. Um that the thicker stuff was right 382 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:56,199 Speaker 1: where he was traveling along, and that's right where I 383 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 1: shot him. So I got as close to that thicker 384 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 1: stuff as I could get and get a shot, and 385 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 1: he just happened to be walking there a little bit 386 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 1: of luck, man, you know. I gotta admit it's not 387 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 1: like I got him all figured out all the time. 388 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:11,919 Speaker 1: But yeah, what what's like a good comfortable range on 389 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:18,719 Speaker 1: Texas Public that you're trying to get deer within ten yards? Yeah, 390 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:21,200 Speaker 1: I mean he was at thirty five. I don't know. 391 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 1: I actually shot another buck last year at about the 392 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:26,640 Speaker 1: same distance. I gotta admit I'm not all that comfortable 393 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 1: with it, but at this point in the game, I 394 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 1: mean he was a nice broad shots you know, broad 395 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:34,439 Speaker 1: broadside shot, so you know I took it. My my 396 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 1: my bo has been shooting well. But yeah, if I 397 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 1: could get it if I had my choice ten yards 398 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 1: fifteen yards, it always feels better than YEA. So going 399 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:46,119 Speaker 1: forward here, as we look kind of up at this 400 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:48,120 Speaker 1: upcoming week. I know a lot of the country kind 401 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:51,200 Speaker 1: of doesn't look forward to December, but in Texas it's 402 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:53,359 Speaker 1: still usually pretty good time to hunt. What do you 403 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 1: think the deer gonna be doing, uh, this first week 404 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:59,359 Speaker 1: in December. Um, So, this is my theory, and I 405 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 1: could be wrong, and other people might argue with me, 406 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:04,479 Speaker 1: but I run quite a bit of cameras and in 407 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 1: the last ten days or so, they've been a lot 408 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 1: of less active, and a lot of the cameras are 409 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 1: over scrapes, um so or thicker areas like that I 410 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:16,880 Speaker 1: assume to be betting. So because they've been a little 411 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 1: bit quieter, I'm assuming that they've been in lockdown and 412 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 1: they're gonna probably you know, the bell curve is going down, 413 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 1: and my my thought would be that books will start 414 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:28,919 Speaker 1: to break away from those and start searching more. It 415 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 1: may not be as heavy as like you know, Pekraut 416 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:35,359 Speaker 1: or right before, but um honestly, my tactic wouldn't change 417 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 1: very much. I'm still gonna try to be close to 418 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 1: betting if there's none scrapes, you know, within those betting 419 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:42,920 Speaker 1: areas are close by, I'm gonna probably be set up 420 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:46,359 Speaker 1: somewhere in there, depending on the wind and that specific spot. 421 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 1: It would be, you know, dictating exactly what tree I 422 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 1: just set in it in. So it sounds like you 423 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 1: got it going on. Man, congrats in the buck. Before 424 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 1: you get out of here, scaleing one to ten. What's 425 00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 1: the buck movement gonna be like in Texas in the 426 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 1: next week? Um, in my area, I'd say seven. I'm 427 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 1: pretty optimistic. Could be pretty good. That's pretty good. I 428 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 1: like it kind of my area. So I'm all about 429 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 1: a seven right now. You gotta be you gotta have 430 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 1: optimism too, Yeah. Absolutely. Man. Well, hey, dude, thanks so 431 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 1: much for the time and congrats again on the great buck. 432 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 1: You guys having me. I've got Garrett Praul, the d 433 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 1: i Y sportsman here. He's been doing some hunting in Minnesota. Garrett. 434 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 1: What's been happening, man, Oh not too much? Thanks for 435 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 1: having me on. Oh yeah, man, you're welcome. Uh you 436 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 1: actually got on a pretty nice buck there in Minnesota 437 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 1: recently in the snow. Huh yeah, yeah, it's uh, it's 438 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:55,160 Speaker 1: been a nut. I would say a great season, but 439 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 1: I definitely can't complain. Oh, I had to shift plans 440 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,200 Speaker 1: a couple of times, but was able to make some 441 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 1: stuff happen, which is always good. Yeah, that's cool man. So, uh, 442 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:06,479 Speaker 1: it's snow lock a constant for you, Minnesotna lock from 443 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:09,200 Speaker 1: late November on. It will it be white for pretty 444 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 1: much the rest of the season. No, not not at all. 445 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 1: In the last couple of years, it's really hit and miss. 446 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 1: I love having snow, but I mean there'll be times 447 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 1: where you don't really get a lot of snow, say 448 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 1: until January or even like February. By that time the 449 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:25,359 Speaker 1: season's out. But it can make a huge difference in 450 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:28,919 Speaker 1: hunting strategy throughout the later part of November and end 451 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 1: of December, for sure. So do you look at that 452 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 1: from a tracking and sign standpoint or from a dear 453 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:37,680 Speaker 1: behavior standpoint? Which one is better? More from a sign 454 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:41,160 Speaker 1: standpoint for me, And you gotta figure two that other 455 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 1: people are keying in on the same things that you 456 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:44,479 Speaker 1: can see. But if you don't have snow and it's 457 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:46,919 Speaker 1: still cold enough, a lot of the sign that you 458 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 1: are seeing is is probably old. It could be recent too, 459 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 1: but it should really tough to tell because the ground 460 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 1: is too hard for you to oftentimes really be able 461 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 1: to see it. And it was this, you know last week, 462 00:23:56,680 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 1: or was this yesterday? It just becomes much more difficult 463 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,120 Speaker 1: to tell. Versus if you have snow, that becomes much 464 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 1: more clear. So what kind of what kind of things 465 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 1: are signs or whatever have you been keying in on lately? Well, 466 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,120 Speaker 1: believe it or not, the buck that I shot last weekend, 467 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:17,679 Speaker 1: I was hitting a scrapeline, which sounds really odd for 468 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:22,360 Speaker 1: late November, but it can't happen. And I would say 469 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 1: generally more so than anything this time year, I'm trying 470 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 1: to key in on someone's really you know, far off 471 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 1: the the common area betting areas thickets, UM doesn't necessarily 472 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:33,680 Speaker 1: have to be far back in, but just someplace where 473 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:37,440 Speaker 1: the deer and up and pressured as much. Because all 474 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,159 Speaker 1: the states that I hunt, Minnesota, North Dakota, Wisconsin, I mean, 475 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 1: they they've all now had several consecutive weeks of heavy 476 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 1: gun pressure and that's probably the biggest factor, more so 477 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 1: than road activity, more so than um, you know, feeding 478 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 1: areas and that sort of thing. Do you find that 479 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:56,360 Speaker 1: the pressure from the the gun seasons actually can extend 480 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,359 Speaker 1: the rut, could you say, you know, like because dear 481 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:02,199 Speaker 1: so mal Us did that, they don't get all the 482 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:06,200 Speaker 1: doze bread, so they come back into cycle. I think 483 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,399 Speaker 1: in some areas there's there's definitely something to that. And 484 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:11,879 Speaker 1: I will say that even between Minnesota and Wisconsin, I 485 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 1: do see differences and sometimes we all have, you know, 486 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:20,200 Speaker 1: bigger bucking bucks moving in daylight. In Minnesota, for instance, 487 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 1: that Thanksgiving week can be really good, and I think 488 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 1: that's because their gun season comes in right at the 489 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:28,639 Speaker 1: beginning of November and it gets pounded. But then some 490 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:31,120 Speaker 1: of the pressure starts to taper off and there's still seasons, 491 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 1: but guys aren't hitting the woods is hard, and you'll 492 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 1: get some of those those big deer cruising a little 493 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:39,199 Speaker 1: bit later in the month of November, Whereas that's the 494 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:42,159 Speaker 1: exact same time where Wisconsin's gun season comes in, and 495 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:44,440 Speaker 1: I don't see that nearly as much on Wisconsin. Sure 496 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:47,680 Speaker 1: some of that late bread activity, so you know, you 497 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,400 Speaker 1: you kind of keyed in on some late road activity 498 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 1: here with the scrapes and that kind of thing. Now, 499 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 1: going forward in the next week, what will you change 500 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,880 Speaker 1: the focus or would you change the focus if you're 501 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 1: out there and what would that be on I would 502 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 1: say is still focused on heavy cover. I mean, if 503 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:08,119 Speaker 1: you if you find the rough sign popping up, I 504 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 1: would definitely be on it. Because it always that first 505 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 1: week in December. It doesn't seem like it's ever as 506 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 1: strong as the first week of November in terms of 507 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:20,359 Speaker 1: daylight activity, but it seems like, man, every now and 508 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 1: then you just have that that real big one that 509 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,640 Speaker 1: daylights and it's like maybe it was one of your 510 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 1: cameras or one of your spots and it was like 511 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 1: one deer, not several deer, but if you were in 512 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 1: the woods at that time when you were hunting that 513 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 1: one betting area, maybe a historical sign you can you 514 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 1: can base that off of um, it's definitely worthwhile, but 515 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,640 Speaker 1: it's it's not a high odds type of a thing. 516 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:44,639 Speaker 1: You know, the moon kind of lines up well. Some 517 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:48,160 Speaker 1: would say, uh, for this first week of December where 518 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 1: it's going to be a new moon. Is that something 519 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 1: you look at much and would you consider that when 520 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:56,400 Speaker 1: it's time to go out. Not usually as much. I mean, 521 00:26:56,440 --> 00:27:00,240 Speaker 1: certainly it's nice just from the standpoint that if you 522 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:01,879 Speaker 1: have the opposite, if you have a full moon and 523 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 1: you do have snow on the ground. I mean it's 524 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:05,960 Speaker 1: you think you can pretty much see clear as day 525 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 1: all night long. Um, how much that matters or doesn't matter, 526 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 1: I've not really been able to have put together a 527 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:16,880 Speaker 1: solid um I guess conclusion on that. I just kind 528 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,440 Speaker 1: of look at the GPS studies and they usually seem 529 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:21,639 Speaker 1: to say that it doesn't matter as much. But I 530 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 1: usually try and with my job just get out in 531 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:26,359 Speaker 1: the woods as much as possible and not let that 532 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 1: factor in as much. I'd say weather would Weather would 533 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 1: usually get a bigger boote for me than moon. Yeah, 534 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 1: That's that's how it is for the working man, right, 535 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:35,200 Speaker 1: Like you gotta get in the woods anytime you can, 536 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:37,199 Speaker 1: but anytime you can have a confidence booster with that, 537 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 1: it would be good. So you know, if the moon 538 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 1: is a favorable then you didn't think about it. But 539 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:45,920 Speaker 1: if it's not, don't worry about it. So, Garrett, Um, 540 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,440 Speaker 1: for this next week, Uh, if you had to rank 541 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:50,399 Speaker 1: what you predict but movie to be locked on a 542 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:51,920 Speaker 1: scale of one to team, what would you think it 543 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 1: would be, I'd say, Well, with ten being as good 544 00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 1: as it could be, I'd say maybe like four or five. Okay, 545 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,920 Speaker 1: this time of year is always it's always tough, right, 546 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:04,879 Speaker 1: I would say, you know, first week of September is 547 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 1: gonna always rank higher. The run is always gonna rank higher, 548 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:10,360 Speaker 1: you know, last week October, first couple of weeks in November. 549 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 1: But as far as as far as early December goes, 550 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:16,919 Speaker 1: I would say, not bad, um, but not bad for 551 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 1: early Decembers in the midwest of the gun season is 552 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:21,640 Speaker 1: not as good as some of those other times a year, 553 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:25,200 Speaker 1: yeah exactly. But hey, you know you got a hunt 554 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:28,119 Speaker 1: the day you're given, right, So we appreciate the uh 555 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:31,440 Speaker 1: the report, man, and congrats on a great season up there. 556 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 1: I appreciate it all right now on the phone, we've 557 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 1: got cuzz strictly and everybody knows and from Ostio because 558 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 1: what's been going on. Man, man, it's all good. You know, 559 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 1: we've we've had a couple of colds snaps. I tell people, 560 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 1: you know, we don't get a lot of winner way 561 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 1: down here. I think it was on a Thursday last year, 562 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken, but we uh are winner was 563 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 1: one day. We uh We've had a couple of colds 564 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 1: snap and everything's good. We got some moisture late, so 565 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 1: food plots came up way better than we were. We 566 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 1: were kicking rocks there for a while. So it's it's 567 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 1: all good, right now. That's good man. Yeah, that's the 568 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 1: kind of same for us. I woke up this morning and, um, 569 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 1: you know, I don't have a garage. My truck just 570 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:21,160 Speaker 1: sits out in the driveway, and so, um, I thought, oh, 571 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 1: I just I was taking my daughter to school. I'll 572 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:25,240 Speaker 1: just you know, hit the windshield wipers and be on 573 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 1: my way. And it was actually the water was frozen 574 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 1: on my windshield. And that's a that was kind of 575 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 1: news to me. You know, I didn't know it was 576 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:34,720 Speaker 1: getting that cold at night. And uh so it's uh, 577 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 1: it's good to be in the South this time of year, though. Man, 578 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 1: that's a that's one of those things that people maybe 579 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 1: from the up north don't get, is that we have 580 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 1: beautiful weather this time of year a lot of times. 581 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:45,959 Speaker 1: And it's a it's a good thing. I have you 582 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 1: been seeing the same type of stuff. Yeah, you know, 583 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 1: we've had a couple of heavy frost and uh you 584 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:55,040 Speaker 1: you get the false narrative that that runs all the 585 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:59,480 Speaker 1: snakes in And I checked the Instagram this morning, some 586 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:04,640 Speaker 1: guy in Ponatak, Mississippi, found a gigantic rattlesnake in one 587 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 1: of his fire pots, and I'm like, they're not done yet. 588 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 1: How you get them? Timp's over sixty or seventy, It 589 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 1: don't matter how long it's been cold. You better watch out. 590 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 1: So that's right that part. So you've been hunting the 591 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 1: Mississippi a little bit, Let's talk about what you've been seeing. 592 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 1: I know it sounds like you had a close call yesterday. Maybe, yeah, 593 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 1: it was awesome. You know, I don't have a giant place, 594 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 1: but uh, several cameras out and I don't check them 595 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:34,880 Speaker 1: that often. I'm beat on not encroaching in that area 596 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 1: and trying to because you know, you leave some cent 597 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 1: on the ground. It's just there for a long time. Anyway. 598 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:44,280 Speaker 1: I got one deer that's that's pretty regular, and a 599 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 1: hadson daylight pictures of him, which is pretty rare just 600 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 1: because of the area I live in. And maybe it's 601 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 1: a straight dead west wind. And I took my middle grandson, Matt. 602 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 1: That's Cranky's older brother, Frankie. The look Cranky, the little one. 603 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 1: He's got too big deer on his wall Matt's been 604 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,720 Speaker 1: a good sport, so I'm kind of wanted him to 605 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 1: shoot this one. Anyway, it was an interesting thing. We 606 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 1: got there and saw dear immediately and they disappeared and 607 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:16,960 Speaker 1: it brocked on the five. Then a five point came 608 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,920 Speaker 1: out and a pretty nice seven point, and this deer 609 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 1: was behind him, which tears you three running together. We're 610 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 1: still nowhere near our run and here in my in 611 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 1: my opinion, but anyway, the deer walked straight in towards 612 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 1: us and then saw something over in the woods to 613 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 1: the right and made a hard right and he went 614 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 1: out of my camera view. It was just wide open 615 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 1: for Matt, and Matt's like can I seet him and said, 616 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:44,920 Speaker 1: all this wait, he'll, he'll, he'll be there, He's not 617 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:48,680 Speaker 1: going anywhere, and whatever he was looking at snorted and 618 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 1: everybody ran all That fourteen year old looked at me 619 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:56,360 Speaker 1: within my eyes wide open, like what just happened? I said, 620 00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 1: I couldn't see it with the camera and I didn't 621 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:03,160 Speaker 1: want to move. But anyway, it was cool because that, 622 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:06,320 Speaker 1: like I said, it was three bucks together, not giants. 623 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 1: And then I got a text last night from a 624 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:13,480 Speaker 1: buddy of mine, David Allen and he saw five bucks 625 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 1: together yesterday on his lease, which is twenty miles from me, 626 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,720 Speaker 1: and his note. At that he closed, I said, our 627 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 1: ruts nowhere near, And I was like, well, that's a 628 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:26,640 Speaker 1: good time to talk to you guys. You know, you 629 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 1: start you looking at Instagram and Facebook and all this, 630 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 1: but you see these giant deer and people down here 631 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 1: like okay, we're ready. Well, it ain't gonna happen down here. 632 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 1: That's not this thoroughly that for a little time yet, 633 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:42,600 Speaker 1: So in your opinion there you know, Southern deer. Some 634 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:44,120 Speaker 1: of my other friends are gonna be mad at it's 635 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:46,160 Speaker 1: but Southern deer a little different, right. You and I 636 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:50,040 Speaker 1: talked about this on off air will Ago. But uh, 637 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,400 Speaker 1: in a situation like last night we had that close 638 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 1: call and that uh every you know the field feel 639 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:58,760 Speaker 1: cleared because something smelled or got weird. How bad does 640 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 1: that affect that buck you were thinking about trying to shoot? Well, 641 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:05,520 Speaker 1: you never know, I've gotten I've been on that farm 642 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:09,360 Speaker 1: for nineteen years and I can't tell you how many pictures, 643 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,600 Speaker 1: rare camp pictures. I gotta like three year old deer 644 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 1: that never you never saw them again. They just they're vampires, 645 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 1: they're weird. They come out at night, and there's little 646 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:24,480 Speaker 1: to no pressure on my farm, so the least little 647 00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 1: thing I think affects them. They're all individuals, but I'm 648 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:33,040 Speaker 1: they ain't no secret that hunting bucks now and here's 649 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:37,800 Speaker 1: way harder than it is in the mid in the Midwest, 650 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:42,840 Speaker 1: because I used to film them all over and it's 651 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 1: just a different game. I don't know why lots of 652 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 1: hunting pressure thicker to rain you. The list goes on 653 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 1: and on, but I am very careful not to try 654 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 1: to spook these dear and U because they I'm telling me, 655 00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:01,040 Speaker 1: I've seen them disappear and not come back. So because 656 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 1: let me know what you think, you know, is the 657 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:06,560 Speaker 1: next week gonna be any better as far as getting 658 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,399 Speaker 1: into the rut or what do you think about that? Well, 659 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:11,239 Speaker 1: it could be. You know, it was a fairly good 660 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:14,719 Speaker 1: mass crop down here, and when they're when there's a 661 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,920 Speaker 1: lot of acorns, I'm gonna say acorns because I know 662 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:22,160 Speaker 1: you've got some northern good ideas and uh, when there's 663 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:25,520 Speaker 1: lots of acorns, you don't really see you kind of 664 00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:27,920 Speaker 1: getting to have it hunting food. Plus we've all done 665 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,600 Speaker 1: that and the reason I do. It's a great place 666 00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:33,279 Speaker 1: to see dear and I'm always I always got a 667 00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:36,480 Speaker 1: kid in told with me. But you know, as the 668 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:39,759 Speaker 1: acorns are depleted, you could see more deer in the 669 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:43,080 Speaker 1: food plots. So I think it's when it when he 670 00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:48,040 Speaker 1: gets to December. Uh. I think the first ten days 671 00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:51,440 Speaker 1: or so are always pretty slow in my place, and 672 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:54,600 Speaker 1: then the closer it gets to Christmas, the magic week 673 00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:57,400 Speaker 1: in my house on my phone since I moved, there's 674 00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:02,000 Speaker 1: always been Christmas the three best deer we've ever killed 675 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:04,759 Speaker 1: on that farm. Believe it or not, we're all on 676 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 1: December and too. I'm just kind of showed up. So 677 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:14,320 Speaker 1: I don't have really high hopes until around the fifteenth 678 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 1: of December. You know. That's when I started thinking, Man, 679 00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:20,560 Speaker 1: we need to go, we need to go, and and uh, 680 00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:23,440 Speaker 1: just you gotta make yourself wait for that right wind. 681 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:25,600 Speaker 1: And I got three or four spots that I can 682 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:30,120 Speaker 1: make a perfect approach and a perfect exit without bothering anything. 683 00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:32,399 Speaker 1: And I kind of saved save those for that time 684 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:34,960 Speaker 1: of a a year. Okay, Well, that's good advice, man, I 685 00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:37,440 Speaker 1: appreciate you. It's coming from a guy. There's a lot 686 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,560 Speaker 1: of experience in the area. Uh, last question I got 687 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:42,839 Speaker 1: for you, because on scale of one to ten, what's 688 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:46,480 Speaker 1: the buck movement gonna be like next week? Uh, I'm 689 00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:50,120 Speaker 1: gonna say, I'm gonna say it's six. All right. Uh yeah, 690 00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:52,440 Speaker 1: you know, if we get a good west wind, I'm 691 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:56,040 Speaker 1: going back. I'll let that place rest. When it's just 692 00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,759 Speaker 1: a wild guest, i'd say as six. Awesome man. Well, 693 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:00,480 Speaker 1: thank you for the information. We'll be talking to you 694 00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:05,719 Speaker 1: again soon. Thank you, guys, appreciate the call. Sounds like 695 00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:07,640 Speaker 1: it is still a great time of year to be 696 00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:09,440 Speaker 1: in the woods. And if you need a little inspiration 697 00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:11,680 Speaker 1: or you want to maybe rethink some of your tactics, 698 00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:14,239 Speaker 1: you should go check out the most recent episode of 699 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:17,279 Speaker 1: the Element podcast, episode Too sixty one I Believe, where 700 00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:19,480 Speaker 1: we talk about how to take yourself out of the 701 00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:22,840 Speaker 1: game to actually help you win the game. Also, Tony 702 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:24,919 Speaker 1: Peterson has a cool article over and Wired to Hunt 703 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:28,560 Speaker 1: about how to bow hunt during guns season yea, and 704 00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:30,959 Speaker 1: you know Meat Eat Season eleven is out now. They're 705 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:34,560 Speaker 1: releasing episodes right now on Meetator's website, The mediator dot com. 706 00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:36,960 Speaker 1: I watched the Louisy and a Spear Fishing episode. It 707 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,319 Speaker 1: was really cool. It's very interesting to me. It's right 708 00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:41,880 Speaker 1: down the road and they're killing some cool fish and 709 00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:44,560 Speaker 1: eating them and preparing them all different ways. My dude 710 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:46,840 Speaker 1: love to eat them. Man, that's why we do these things. 711 00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:56,840 Speaker 1: So remember keep it fresh. This is red fresh.