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Speaker 1: ever thought the impact of the quarterback is overrated, just
Speaker 1: look at the matchups that we have in the NFL
Speaker 1: conference title games. You got Tom Brady versus Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1: You got Patrick Mahomes versus Josh Allen. That is, if
Speaker 1: Mahomes is healthy. Brady Rogers certainly speaks for itself, Brady
Speaker 1: the Goat. While many think Rogers is the most talented
Speaker 1: quarterback of all time, and if it's not Rogers, then
Speaker 1: that honor probably goes to Patrick Mahomes. He's already got
Speaker 1: one Super Bowl ring and should be in line for
Speaker 1: a few more. Josh Allen, he's the newcomer here, but
Speaker 1: he played like an MVP down the stretch and is
Speaker 1: as dangerous as anyone in the group. And the formula
Speaker 1: is really simple. You get an all time great quarterback,
Speaker 1: go deep into the playoffs. I'm sure the GMS are
Speaker 1: going to be watching this weekend going we got to
Speaker 1: get one of those guys, and good luck, because these
Speaker 1: guys are special. Should make for some exciting conference title games.
Speaker 1: As far as the availability of Patrick Mahomes, we don't
Speaker 1: know a concussion concussion protocol, but here is his head coach,
Speaker 1: Andy Reid talking about Patrick Mahomes and how well he's doing.
Speaker 1: He's actually doing very well, and I just talked to
Speaker 1: him and he's doing good. We'll see how he is tomorrow,
Speaker 1: but I mean, right now, he is sound good. A
Speaker 1: lot of times we may see something and go, oh,
Speaker 1: that didn't look bad, and then we realize it is bad.
Speaker 1: Or sometimes you think, oh, I don't know how that
Speaker 1: guy's getting up. This didn't look egregious. You know, it
Speaker 1: didn't look like mac Wilson. You know it was a
Speaker 1: cheap shot. Lamar Jackson, same thing when he got knocked out.
Speaker 1: You're never quite sure when the impact of that play
Speaker 1: and what it does to that person. But you saw
Speaker 1: that yesterday and Chad Henny came to the rescue, and
Speaker 1: here's Andy Reid talking about his backup quarterback to I'm
Speaker 1: proud of Chad and the way he handled everything. And yeah,
Speaker 1: he probably said it best when he said, listen, this
Speaker 1: team is unbelievable. When somebody has to come in and
Speaker 1: make it him feel comfortable and that's what team's all about.
Speaker 1: So again, I'm just I'm proud of the way he
Speaker 1: handled things. So yeah, and he should be because that
Speaker 1: was one of those moments if you start to see
Speaker 1: the momentum shift a little bit, Chad Henny's coming in
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, he throws an interception and then
Speaker 1: he comes back and makes two of the greatest plays.
Speaker 1: Well it's not a great resume, but there are two
Speaker 1: high end plays for him, and what he did this
Speaker 1: scramble and then also that fourth down pass that you
Speaker 1: know basically allowed them to run out the clock. But
Speaker 1: as far as surprises go, there was a report prior
Speaker 1: to the start of the Saints Buccaneers by Jay Glazier.
Speaker 1: It's what I think most of his thought that this
Speaker 1: could be Drew Brees his last game. He is sort
Speaker 1: of holding off retirement talk, but you got that feeling
Speaker 1: that this was it. Here's breeze after the game. Is
Speaker 1: your last game? Well, I'll answer this question one time,
Speaker 1: and that is that I'm going to give myself an
Speaker 1: opportunity to think about the season, thinking about a lot
Speaker 1: of things, just like I did last year, and make
Speaker 1: it to see, Yeah, he didn't look good you had
Speaker 1: three interceptions there, and you start to think about he's
Speaker 1: played in three hundred and five games Drew Brees three
Speaker 1: hundred five NFL games that includes postseason. It was the
Speaker 1: only time in any of those games in which he
Speaker 1: both had at least three interceptions and he passed for
Speaker 1: under one hundred and fifty yards. It had been over
Speaker 1: four years since he was last picked off three times
Speaker 1: in a game Week fourteen of the twenty sixteen season,
Speaker 1: and that was also against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. But
Speaker 1: what you saw yesterday is I think what we've been
Speaker 1: seeing the last couple of years, and that is a
Speaker 1: steady decline with Drew Brees throwing the ball down the field,
Speaker 1: the offense isn't explosive. I thought the defense was the
Speaker 1: star this year for this team. I didn't think Tampa
Speaker 1: was great, but Tampa was opportunistic and Tampa has a
Speaker 1: very good defense. I told you Devin White is a star.
Speaker 1: He's only twenty two. But Winfield, You've got some players
Speaker 1: who can make some plays over there, and that'll be
Speaker 1: fun to see. Weather is going to be an issue
Speaker 1: in Green Bay. They'll probably be in the mid twenties,
Speaker 1: probably a chance of snow up there as well. And
Speaker 1: then you got Buffalo going to Kansas City. But we'll
Speaker 1: dive into a lot of this with Troy Aikman. He'll
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Speaker 1: NFL questions over here. You can start with a controversial rule,
Speaker 1: a quarterback future or Deshaun Watson. How about I ease
Speaker 1: into the show? Okay? How about we ease in? Okay, Well,
Speaker 1: let's start with an older gentleman, a man of leisure.
Speaker 1: Potentially if you're Drew Brees. Do you hang it out
Speaker 1: after yesterday? Yes? Or no? I don't want to tell
Speaker 1: anybody when to retire. I think we in the media,
Speaker 1: we want to be ahead of it. You want to
Speaker 1: be Are you ready to retire? You're going to retire?
Speaker 1: Peyton went through this for a long time and Drew Brees,
Speaker 1: you know, all the greats if you stay around long
Speaker 1: enough that like Ben Roethlisberger, we're going through that right now,
Speaker 1: maybe Philip Rivers going through that right now. I hope
Speaker 1: they get to play as long as they want to play,
Speaker 1: and somebody gives them that opportunity. And he's already got
Speaker 1: a great job at NBC Sports. My only concern, and
Speaker 1: it's a selfish one, is I don't like to see
Speaker 1: when these quarterbacks sort of fade away, like they go
Speaker 1: out and they they're limping when they walk off the field,
Speaker 1: maybe literally, maybe figuratively. But I I didn't think Drew
Speaker 1: Brees looked great this year. I didn't think he looked
Speaker 1: great last year. Now, you can put up good numbers
Speaker 1: in today's NFL, but are you truly dangerous? And I
Speaker 1: don't think Drew Brees was dangerous this year or last
Speaker 1: year for that matter. And you know, as a result,
Speaker 1: if the Saints wanting to come back, then that's on them.
Speaker 1: Then then you know, Sean Payton's a brilliant, offensive minded
Speaker 1: coach and if he sees something in there, then I'm
Speaker 1: going to trust his judgment there. But if I'm the Saints,
Speaker 1: I think it's time to move on. I just think
Speaker 1: you have some young offensive weapons there. I don't think
Speaker 1: Taysom Hill is the future there, but Sean Payton will
Speaker 1: defer to him. If he thinks he is, then I
Speaker 1: trust him. I want to remember Drew Brees as being
Speaker 1: a great player, but that's me if he wants to
Speaker 1: still continue to play great. It's very very rare when
Speaker 1: you see a quarterback and it's just a quarterback where
Speaker 1: he gets to make the call that this is it.
Speaker 1: You know John Elway couldn't play anymore. I mean it
Speaker 1: was that simple, or John would have come back. Because John,
Speaker 1: how can you win a Super Bowl and go I'm
Speaker 1: going to retire? You win a Super Bowl and you go, Man,
Speaker 1: I can like to win another one here. It's hard
Speaker 1: to leave no matter what. If you win, it's hard
Speaker 1: to leave. It's it's hard to leave when you lose.
Speaker 1: It might be harder to leave when you have a
Speaker 1: performance like that by Drew Brees because you feel like
Speaker 1: you let your city down, you let your team down,
Speaker 1: and nobody wants to go out that way. Did you
Speaker 1: see the cool video after the game, and this was
Speaker 1: late after the game, where Brady is getting ready to
Speaker 1: go to the bus and Breezes on the field with
Speaker 1: his kids. His boys always want to go out there
Speaker 1: and play some football. Breezes out there, sees Tom and
Speaker 1: they're right around the end zone and one of breezes
Speaker 1: boys is like, hey, you've thrown me a ball. And
Speaker 1: he had one of those little nerve footballs there and
Speaker 1: Brady's throwing him, you know, a touchdown there. It was.
Speaker 1: It was a cool moment to see two of the
Speaker 1: greats of all time and Tom understanding what that moment means,
Speaker 1: because we're not very far away from Tom having that
Speaker 1: same moment where you walk off the field for the
Speaker 1: final time. And I think you saw that with Drew
Speaker 1: Brees last night, Dan Seton. It is interesting, though, that
Speaker 1: you don't get the sense that Tom is ready to
Speaker 1: walk away at all, not even close, whereas Drew it's
Speaker 1: clearly on his mind. But Tom Brady doesn't look like
Speaker 1: he's ready even close. Nope, not at all. He already
Speaker 1: said that he's coming back next year. Gronk wants to
Speaker 1: come back next year. Yeah, McClean. What about Jamis Winson
Speaker 1: in this picture. I think he's a free agent, free
Speaker 1: agent two year deal. Oh, he did Okay, yeah, I
Speaker 1: thought it was a two year deal for what sixteen
Speaker 1: million dollars? No, No, that's Taysom. Oh did he do Jamis?
Speaker 1: I think is a million. Okay, yeah, so I think
Speaker 1: they have to make a decision on him. But how
Speaker 1: about a Jamis Taysom combination next year. I think that's
Speaker 1: kind of interesting. Yeah. I need somebody I can count on,
Speaker 1: like I don't like the interchangeable parts. By the way,
Speaker 1: if I knew a trick play was coming when Jameis
Speaker 1: Winston came in, I would have thought the Buccaneers would
Speaker 1: have known there was a trick play coming because he
Speaker 1: wasn't going to go out for a pass and okay,
Speaker 1: we're gonna line you up over here. Something's up, something's up,
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden he throws a touchdown pass.
Speaker 1: But there was a lot. There was a lot this weekend,
Speaker 1: you know, the Browns with the Chiefs. And I told
Speaker 1: you I liked the Browns. I thought they would hang around.
Speaker 1: Kansas City allowed them to hang around, and they had
Speaker 1: an opportunity and I know that we'll talk about the
Speaker 1: fumble that went out of the end zone there. I
Speaker 1: don't like the rule with Rashad Higgins. I don't like it,
Speaker 1: but you know, this is where you come up with
Speaker 1: a solution. It's one thing to say they got to
Speaker 1: get rid of that rule. Okay, so what is the solution?
Speaker 1: I think the dan end. So I'm going to open
Speaker 1: it up to you guys. You guys come up with
Speaker 1: try to convince me what you think the rule should be.
Speaker 1: Because this is where this is what we do. We're
Speaker 1: in the moment. There's no way a team that doesn't
Speaker 1: have a five hundred record winning their division should host
Speaker 1: a playoff. Okay, now we move on from the Washington
Speaker 1: football team. This is when you keep it alive, or
Speaker 1: you hope the NFL keeps it alive, to say, hey,
Speaker 1: let's reconsider this with the NFL Competition Committee. You have
Speaker 1: this rule that's in place when the offense going for
Speaker 1: the pylon. If you have the ball and it goes
Speaker 1: out of the end zone, then you lose control of
Speaker 1: the football there. All right. I don't like it, but
Speaker 1: it is the rule. And I go back to a
Speaker 1: play that Ryan Tannehill had and Mike Vrabel he fumbled.
Speaker 1: Tannehill fumbled the ball. I don't know the exact week
Speaker 1: when it was, but Vrabels said to Tannehill, protect the football, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know the rule. Protect the football. Now does it
Speaker 1: duel with one of the more exciting plays in the
Speaker 1: NFL when you're reaching for the pylone? Yes, I just
Speaker 1: don't think the offense should be penalized that harshly. Now
Speaker 1: move it back to the twenty yard line. Let him
Speaker 1: have the ball again. Okay, they lose the down. Okay,
Speaker 1: but that didn't cost the Cleveland Browns in my opinion.
Speaker 1: Uh in Kansas City allowed them to stay in the game.
Speaker 1: I mean, was it devastating, you know where you lose
Speaker 1: you know the momentum like that? Absolutely? Yeah, see that.
Speaker 1: I kind of love the swing of emotions though, where
Speaker 1: this dude's diving for the pylon and unfortunately, you know,
Speaker 1: if you don't don't fumble the ball. Well, that's that's
Speaker 1: what Belichick would always say. Belichick would say, protect the ball.
Speaker 1: You know what the rule is. And Vrabel, disciple of Belichick,
Speaker 1: said to Ryan Tannehill, protect the ball, like, you know
Speaker 1: the rule. We're not changing the rule. It's not like
Speaker 1: it happens where you let's change the rule right now
Speaker 1: or like the idea though that like, oh, hey, come on,
Speaker 1: that fun ball. You can't fair. You know we fumbled,
Speaker 1: but I mean at least give him the ball back. Yeah, Todd,
Speaker 1: it wasn't recovered by the other team. He made a play.
Speaker 1: They're all about offense, the league and every way shape
Speaker 1: or formed with their rules. He's diving and trying to
Speaker 1: make the play. It slipped out of his hand, it
Speaker 1: goes into the end zone. The punishment should be no
Speaker 1: worse than getting the ball twenty away the other team
Speaker 1: gets it. Shocks me. We finally came up with a
Speaker 1: rule that helps the defense, and then we want to
Speaker 1: get rid of it here. Yeah, you're right about Belichick.
Speaker 1: Three years ago, it happened in a game to another team,
Speaker 1: and some beat reporter just asked Belichick what he thinks
Speaker 1: about it, and he said, we have a policy that
Speaker 1: you do not reach for the end zone and you
Speaker 1: will get benched if you do. So. He tells, like,
Speaker 1: the rookies, don't try to make that play because the
Speaker 1: downside is too big. Yeah, I don't like the rule.
Speaker 1: I don't like a team that doesn't have a five
Speaker 1: hundred record winning its division hosting a playoff game. But
Speaker 1: if you don't move to change the rule. Then history
Speaker 1: will repeat itself, and then we'll come back three years
Speaker 1: from now and we'll go can you believe that they
Speaker 1: got a home game for the playoffs? Yes, mccleman. See
Speaker 1: the NFL marketing arm. All they do is show SloMo
Speaker 1: of guys diving for that pylon. So they love that play,
Speaker 1: and that rule encourages them not to do that play.
Speaker 1: So I think they should definitely get rid of it.
Speaker 1: I know, but I have to have something that does
Speaker 1: penalize the offense. I don't think you should lose the football. Yeah, yea,
Speaker 1: So maybe go to the twenty that so, well, that's
Speaker 1: I'm gonna let you wait. You guys can do a
Speaker 1: little homework here and you guys will get a twenty
Speaker 1: second presentation where you tell me what you think you
Speaker 1: should do with that play that call? What else? Do
Speaker 1: we have a full question? One? Well, we talked about
Speaker 1: the Saints. Of the four losers from the weekend, who
Speaker 1: is in the brightest shape moving forward? So you got
Speaker 1: the Saints, you got Cleveland, Baltimore, and the Rams. That's
Speaker 1: an interesting question because I'm trying to look at this
Speaker 1: and go, Okay, you're gonna have a quarterbacking change in
Speaker 1: New Orleans. Baltimore needs some wide receivers. The Rams got
Speaker 1: a great defense and a question market quarterback. And Cleveland.
Speaker 1: I think Cleveland's on the right track. I do. I think.
Speaker 1: I think Kevin Stefanski has done a great job. Baker
Speaker 1: Mayfield I think showed improvement theres I think maturity. I'll
Speaker 1: start there. They got run running backs, they got a
Speaker 1: really good offensive line. I'd show up the defense I got.
Speaker 1: They need some help there. And if you want Odell
Speaker 1: Beckham junior back, or you trade him, whatever you decide
Speaker 1: to do. But I see a lot of promise with Cleveland.
Speaker 1: I do. And if Ben Roethlisberger steps down in Pittsburgh,
Speaker 1: you know you still have Baltimore in there. But the
Speaker 1: Browns can still be that ten eleven win team. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: But the Rams. I'm curious about the Rams because I've
Speaker 1: said before in the last two years, and as much
Speaker 1: as I like him as a person and a guest
Speaker 1: on the show, there's question marks with Jared Goff, I
Speaker 1: really think, and I thought he played well. You're you're
Speaker 1: playing with that broken thumb and you're in Green Bay
Speaker 1: trying to match up Aaron Rodgers there. He didn't hurt
Speaker 1: them yesterday. Maybe he didn't help them as much as
Speaker 1: you want your star quarterback to help you, but I'm
Speaker 1: not going to put that on Jared Goff. It just
Speaker 1: felt like, you know, after the game, Sean McVay said, hey,
Speaker 1: we're basically evaluating everybody here. Yeah, Paul on Baker Mayfield
Speaker 1: last year, twenty two touchdowns, twenty one picks. This year
Speaker 1: twenty six touchdowns, eight picks. Yeah, And I think that's
Speaker 1: Kevin Stefanski the play calling. I think they understood who
Speaker 1: they were and they hung in there like a younger team,
Speaker 1: inexperienced team. Usually you're gonna fold, you're gonna fade, you know,
Speaker 1: you're down double digits to Mahomes in Kansas City. But
Speaker 1: they didn't. You know, they're a running team, and I
Speaker 1: think that that's probably goes against everything that Baker wants
Speaker 1: to do. But that put you in position to stay
Speaker 1: in that game yesterday. Yeah, mcclub, I think there's a
Speaker 1: problem with Baltimore and Lamar Jackson. It's not I think
Speaker 1: he the cold weather doomed him on Saturday. Like he said,
Speaker 1: he never played in the snow. He's a Florida guy.
Speaker 1: I don't know, like, is he ever going to be
Speaker 1: a postseason quarterback. I think the cold weather kind of
Speaker 1: is not great for him. I can't explain it. He
Speaker 1: plays in Baltimore. I know, I was thinking if he
Speaker 1: got a home games, which he could have got, like,
Speaker 1: would that have made a difference a little one. Tom
Speaker 1: Brady and Aaron Rodgers are from California, I know, but yeah,
Speaker 1: but they You know, Deshaud had never played in a
Speaker 1: snow game his whole life up to this point, He's
Speaker 1: never once played in snow. I mean, sorry, Lamar, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, Brady had not played in a snow game
Speaker 1: up until the Raiders that talk Bowl game, never in Michigan.
Speaker 1: Never once. Well, cold weather, but I don't think big
Speaker 1: snow like that. But I think that there was no
Speaker 1: snow for Lamar. There was wind. Also, the Ravens had
Speaker 1: it such an a rickety season be's of COVID like
Speaker 1: I think they did. You know, I don't think they
Speaker 1: were really a good that's a good team. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: you know they lost some offensive linemen. They just didn't
Speaker 1: seem explosive. And I thought they had their magic there.
Speaker 1: I thought they had their mojo. The last six weeks
Speaker 1: of the season. And but give credit to Buffalo. I mean,
Speaker 1: Buffalo did. Buffalo said we think we can contain Lamar Jackson,
Speaker 1: and they did exactly that. But that was a close game.
Speaker 1: You know, if Lamar connects on the play before the interception,
Speaker 1: you know, you know, that was a fourteen point swing.
Speaker 1: So he has a touchdown, and then the next play
Speaker 1: he throws the interception. That's fourteen points right there, and
Speaker 1: that was it. Yeah, Now wide receivers got to tackle him.
Speaker 1: You know, he had had his arms on him. Now, yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, we'll talk to Troy Aikman coming up. What
Speaker 1: advice would he give Drew Brees because Troy nearly came
Speaker 1: back I think three times out of retirement. I think
Speaker 1: three times. He was thirty five when he retired, and
Speaker 1: Troy had quite a few concussions, and I think that
Speaker 1: played a large role in this. But I know the
Speaker 1: Eagles there was a possibility. There was the Chargers, I
Speaker 1: believe the possibility, and then there was the Dolphins. I think.
Speaker 1: So Troy, you know, once you go, you go, and
Speaker 1: that's it. And and Troy, you know, you start to go, gosh,
Speaker 1: I could still play again. And Drew is going to
Speaker 1: have this if he goes to NBC is in their
Speaker 1: studio show. There will be times when he'll be in
Speaker 1: the moment like I should be out there. It's like
Speaker 1: Tony Dungee, I should be out there coaching. But once
Speaker 1: you move past that, then it's almost like you realize that, Okay,
Speaker 1: I left that behind. Now there's nothing I can do
Speaker 1: about it. Your phone call is always welcome. We'll get
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Speaker 1: the NFC Conference Championship game between the Buccaneers Packers at
Speaker 1: three eastern on Fox. Troy, thanks for joining us. What
Speaker 1: advice would you give of Drew Brees today if he
Speaker 1: asked for U? Take some time away and just give
Speaker 1: it some real thought. I mean, I know he's been
Speaker 1: thinking about this for a long time. He's been he's
Speaker 1: been doing it a long time, of course, but I
Speaker 1: think he just needs to get away and let some
Speaker 1: time pass. It's hard to make these kinds of decisions
Speaker 1: after a tough loss like what he just experienced. But
Speaker 1: you went through this even when you retired, and then
Speaker 1: you flirted with coming back, Like what is that urge
Speaker 1: that you got with those two or three different times
Speaker 1: where you thought about it. Yeah, well, the first one
Speaker 1: with San Diego with the Chargers. It was as soon
Speaker 1: as I got released by the Cowboys, I had considered
Speaker 1: going to the Chargers, and then they ended up signing
Speaker 1: Doug Flutie and that was actually Drew Brees' rookie year,
Speaker 1: or they drafted bree that year. We would have been
Speaker 1: teammates had I have gone. But it was a couple
Speaker 1: of years later when I heard from Andy Reid and
Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Eagles. And then a year after that, my
Speaker 1: third year out, when when Dave Wantstat North Turner were
Speaker 1: with the Dolphins and asked if I would consider coming out,
Speaker 1: And I think what it is Dan is for me.
Speaker 1: I was actually thirty four when I retired, So to
Speaker 1: still feel like you can do it and have your
Speaker 1: health and then miss the competition of it, you just
Speaker 1: you know, now, I'm fully satisfied in my job of broadcasting,
Speaker 1: but early on it was hard walking out of a
Speaker 1: stadium and not knowing whether you had won or lost.
Speaker 1: But I think for Drew, because of his age, you know,
Speaker 1: he's forty two years old, that the days are kind
Speaker 1: of you know, not totally. He could still play another year,
Speaker 1: of course, but he's not going to have the window
Speaker 1: of opportunity. I just didn't want to look back and
Speaker 1: just think, man, I wish I'd given it another shot.
Speaker 1: In hindsight, I'm glad I didn't do it, but at
Speaker 1: the time it was a real urge and I was
Speaker 1: going to do it for the Dolphins. At the end
Speaker 1: of the day, Rick Spillman was a general manager, and
Speaker 1: he's the one who ultimately just couldn't pull the trigger
Speaker 1: on it. They thought they were a quarterback away from
Speaker 1: going to the Super Bowl, but as it turned out,
Speaker 1: they really were not that good. I think the team
Speaker 1: won six and ten that season, and so as I
Speaker 1: watched the Dolphins play that year, I thought, Wow, I'm
Speaker 1: really glad. I don't think I wouldn't have made a
Speaker 1: big difference to that team. But I wonder about Drew Brees.
Speaker 1: You walk off the field, you don't want to walk
Speaker 1: off this way at home three interceptions, But when you win, Troy,
Speaker 1: there's part of you that says, like, I want to
Speaker 1: do it again. Like why Like Elway, you know limped away,
Speaker 1: He didn't walk away. He limped away after winning. Peyton
Speaker 1: knew he couldn't play anymore. Like it feels like that's
Speaker 1: the only way you can walk away from winning is
Speaker 1: if you're barely able to walk away. I agree with you,
Speaker 1: and that's a great point. If you had asked me
Speaker 1: early in the season, midway or so, if I thought
Speaker 1: Tom Brady was going to come back, even though he
Speaker 1: gave the Bucks a two year commitment, I would have
Speaker 1: said it's fifty fifty. As much as Tom has said
Speaker 1: he's going to play for X number of years now,
Speaker 1: he's having the most fun he's had and they're winning
Speaker 1: that there's no way he's not going to come back
Speaker 1: next year. And I agree with you as far as
Speaker 1: it goes for Drew that I mean that is it's
Speaker 1: been an amazing career. Of course, the all time leading passer,
Speaker 1: but that was one of his worst games of his career.
Speaker 1: It was the worst game of the season. And to
Speaker 1: have that be your final performance and go out, you know,
Speaker 1: short of winning the super Bowl, you're going to go
Speaker 1: out not having one. But that's gonna gnad him, There's
Speaker 1: no He's a great competitor and a real disappointment. I
Speaker 1: don't think ultimately that's going to be decisive in whether
Speaker 1: or not he decides to come back. How dangerous is Brady, Well,
Speaker 1: he's real dangerous. I just think that I commented on
Speaker 1: it early in the game that I thought those two
Speaker 1: quarterbacks for young quarterbacks to watch and kind of emulate
Speaker 1: as far as how they play the game. I think Tom,
Speaker 1: having had a number of conversations with him about the position,
Speaker 1: there's a reason why he's won as many games as
Speaker 1: he has. And yes, he's had good players around him,
Speaker 1: he's had good coaching around him, all those things. But
Speaker 1: Tom understands all the little details of the game and
Speaker 1: what it takes to play winning football, and he did
Speaker 1: that in the biggest game of the year for him yesterday.
Speaker 1: Would you rather have a quarterback mentally tough or physically
Speaker 1: mentally Yeah, I think that. I think that all the
Speaker 1: quarterbacks in our game are physically tough. I think to
Speaker 1: get to even the NFL, you have to have some
Speaker 1: amount of toughness. Some are able to play through things
Speaker 1: more than others, but I think more today than even
Speaker 1: when I played. And I thought that when I played,
Speaker 1: things were kind of hard. But with social media and
Speaker 1: all of the critics out there, I think mentally you've
Speaker 1: got to be really, really strong to play this game. Well.
Speaker 1: I look at Lamar Jackson at this same age. Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers had thrown one touchdown in one interception. At age
Speaker 1: twenty four, now we're questioning if Lamar Jackson can win
Speaker 1: a big game. Yeah, are we being fair given the
Speaker 1: talent he has in the resume, the brief resume winning
Speaker 1: an MVP, that he should be winning these games. No,
Speaker 1: I don't think it's fair. I mean you think back,
Speaker 1: I think Peyton Manning lost his first three playoff games,
Speaker 1: you know, and some people were questioning that. Now you
Speaker 1: laugh at that when you think about it, that Peyton
Speaker 1: Manning was ever questioned for anything. And you know, we're
Speaker 1: quick now, even when guys come into the league as rookies,
Speaker 1: we within a couple of games, I hear people start
Speaker 1: to comment on whether or not a guy's a bust
Speaker 1: or not. I mean there's a number of us, me
Speaker 1: certainly being one of them, that had that been the
Speaker 1: criteria back when we began our careers, we never would
Speaker 1: have We never would have made it. You know, they
Speaker 1: would have replaced us really early on. So yeah, I
Speaker 1: think it's I think it is very unfair, but I
Speaker 1: also know it's what everyone signs up for and they
Speaker 1: understand it. Lamar had a concussion this weekend. Patrick Mahomes
Speaker 1: had a concussion. You've had your history of concussions do
Speaker 1: you know you have a concussion In the moment you
Speaker 1: know something's not right? I know that for mine. I
Speaker 1: always say this, I had two really serious concus quesions.
Speaker 1: I think all head injuries are serious, so I don't
Speaker 1: want that to be misinterpreted. But the others that I had,
Speaker 1: whether it was five or six or whatever it was,
Speaker 1: I think we're pretty minor. But yeah, you know that
Speaker 1: something's not quite right. Uh, it's it's not a guessing game,
Speaker 1: I think for the one who has won. But did
Speaker 1: you try to go back in? Yeah? I think you know.
Speaker 1: The trainers now now more than ever, they're really good
Speaker 1: about it. And then they've got a third party that's
Speaker 1: able to evaluate the player and decide whether or not
Speaker 1: he's capable of coming back and playing. I think the
Speaker 1: league's made great strides in that regard. Um. There was
Speaker 1: a time, I mean, even all the all the I have,
Speaker 1: I had a concussion in the championship game to where
Speaker 1: I still have no recollection of having played in that game,
Speaker 1: total amnesia from that game, and yet I played the
Speaker 1: very next week in the Super Bowl. There was no
Speaker 1: bye week, so I never missed a game. The following
Speaker 1: week following a concussion, and I think that's where things
Speaker 1: have really improved, that these players have to go through
Speaker 1: a protocol and uh, maybe you know it's it's straight engine,
Speaker 1: but I think that's good. Did you go back and
Speaker 1: watch the tape of the game that you don't remember? Yeah,
Speaker 1: got to Atlanta the week of the Super Bowl and
Speaker 1: I put on the game. Pretty pretty surreal experience you're
Speaker 1: watching playing You know, you don't remember any of these throws.
Speaker 1: I actually played good too. Part You and Joe Bucks
Speaker 1: should announce that game so you can actually critique yourself
Speaker 1: in the moment there. Wow, that's Uh. Um, Troy's gonna
Speaker 1: be on the call with Joe Buck, the Bucks and
Speaker 1: the Packers at three eastern at lambeau Field playing in
Speaker 1: the snow? Um, how big a deal those conditions? How
Speaker 1: big a deal is that? You know you have Tom
Speaker 1: whose blood is probably thinned out in Tampa. Uh, you
Speaker 1: know we make a big deal about it playing in
Speaker 1: the cold weather. H Is that that big a deal?
Speaker 1: I think it's a pretty big deal. I think because
Speaker 1: of the game being the NFC Championship game, I think
Speaker 1: the players, you know, they won't even really be thinking
Speaker 1: of that much, are gonna be so excited about the
Speaker 1: fact that that they're one game away from from realizing
Speaker 1: a real goal and a dream for all those guys.
Speaker 1: But but yeah, it's real, And I know that the Packers,
Speaker 1: I mean, the Packers don't like the cold anymore than
Speaker 1: anyone else. They're just they're just more accustomed to it.
Speaker 1: You know. They'd much rather prefer to play in the
Speaker 1: seventy degree weather, you know, But I know that there's
Speaker 1: a confidence that comes with it. They wear it kind
Speaker 1: of as a badge in Green Bay. Aaron Rodgers certainly does.
Speaker 1: But I think the fact that Tom has played in
Speaker 1: the Northeast as long as he has and played in
Speaker 1: those conditions, he's aware of it. He'll be able to
Speaker 1: communicate that to some of those players who aren't accustomed
Speaker 1: to it. And I think Tom will will play well
Speaker 1: as a result of it. I think he's actually very
Speaker 1: much looking forward to the conditions. How do you explain,
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers if somebody never saw him play Troy and
Speaker 1: you were trying to sum it up in thirty seconds,
Speaker 1: how would you do? Then? I think he's got a
Speaker 1: coolness to him, you know, I mean, I just don't
Speaker 1: see him get flustered. It just seems like he's always
Speaker 1: holy in the winning hand and he knows it, you know,
Speaker 1: to where there's a confidence about him, regardless of whatever
Speaker 1: is happening in the game, that he's going to pull
Speaker 1: it out. And I know that's how I feel when
Speaker 1: I go into broadcast one of his games, that he's
Speaker 1: done so much, he's the MVP of the league in
Speaker 1: my opinion. I said that probably with a month left
Speaker 1: in the season when there was a lot of other
Speaker 1: people being discussed, and the reason being that he just
Speaker 1: doesn't have the same supporting cast. And it's nothing against
Speaker 1: those players, but when you compare, you know, what they've
Speaker 1: had there in Green Bay relative to some other teams.
Speaker 1: A lot of their success, understandably is the quarterback, but
Speaker 1: I think more so than maybe some of the other
Speaker 1: teams where they've gone on and had success and have
Speaker 1: great players at the quarterback position. What does Buffalo have
Speaker 1: to do assuming Patrick Mahomes is healthy, what would be
Speaker 1: your game plan in Kansas City? Well, you know, Dan,
Speaker 1: we had that game in the regular season, a Thursday
Speaker 1: night matchup there in Buffalo, and Buffalo was determined not
Speaker 1: to give up the big play, which is priority number
Speaker 1: one when you're playing Kansas City, of course, But to
Speaker 1: my surprise, Andy Reid just continue to run the football.
Speaker 1: And that's not really Andy's style either. You know, he's
Speaker 1: always been criticized about getting away from the run. They
Speaker 1: ran the ball. I think they ran it for over
Speaker 1: two hundred yards at night. I would have to go
Speaker 1: back and look. But so I think that the game
Speaker 1: plan works. I think if a team just runs the
Speaker 1: ball that it's hard to score a lot of points
Speaker 1: as long as they're not getting big runs. That I
Speaker 1: think they did a good job in that regard. They
Speaker 1: got to shore some things up with the run game
Speaker 1: and then just play smart. I think when you get
Speaker 1: into January football, as we saw yesterday in our game,
Speaker 1: the takeaways and the turnovers are huge, I mean really huge.
Speaker 1: They're huge every week, but the difference in these teams
Speaker 1: is so small that you just have to be really
Speaker 1: really smart with the football and not beat yourself and
Speaker 1: give yourself a chance going into the fourth quarter. And
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to it. I know it's gonna be
Speaker 1: a great Super Bowl matchup regardless of whoever wins this
Speaker 1: next weekend. The four teams that launched over the weekend,
Speaker 1: Which teams in the best shape coming back next year?
Speaker 1: Oh man, Off the top of my head. Um, I
Speaker 1: always like New Orleans and the reason I do is
Speaker 1: because of Sean Payton. I just think that he's gonna
Speaker 1: have answers. He always does, So I like. I like
Speaker 1: that group. I like I like Sean McVay and the Rams.
Speaker 1: I think they've done a good job. Now I don't
Speaker 1: know that i'd say they're in the best shape. I
Speaker 1: think now there's some uncertainty as far as what's going
Speaker 1: to happen at quarterback. And then also I don't know
Speaker 1: if it's been announced yet, it sounds like they're gonna
Speaker 1: lose their defensive coordinator. And he was in a lot
Speaker 1: of ways the MVP of that team. So yeah, he
Speaker 1: took the Chargers John Yeah, yeah, so good hired for
Speaker 1: the Chargers. He's been an impressive guy. Brandon Staley and
Speaker 1: uh and he'll be sorely missed there in Los Angeles
Speaker 1: for the Rams. If you were the Texans GM, how
Speaker 1: would you clean up this? Miss? Well, I think you
Speaker 1: got to first get on board with quarterback, you know.
Speaker 1: And I'm the last guy who would say that the
Speaker 1: players run the organization, and I don't think Deshaun Watson does.
Speaker 1: But he's a great player and you'd hate to lose
Speaker 1: a guy of his caliber. I think that that has
Speaker 1: to be mended somehow. I don't know what the communication was.
Speaker 1: I don't know what he was promised or however that happened,
Speaker 1: but I think that would be priority number one, is
Speaker 1: making sure he understands that he's going to be given
Speaker 1: every opportunity to go out and have success. I think
Speaker 1: that's what every player wants. That's certainly whatevery franchise quarterback wants,
Speaker 1: and they have to be able to prove that to
Speaker 1: him and satisfy him in that regard, because he's too
Speaker 1: valuable to just let walk and not have a replacement.
Speaker 1: Would you take offers? Yeah, I would always take offers.
Speaker 1: I don't know that anyone would ever be able to
Speaker 1: offer enough, but yeah, I would certainly listen if you
Speaker 1: ran the gents. Would you offer everything? I wouldn't offer.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't offer everything, but not a herschel Walker our
Speaker 1: show light. How about you know, maybe three first rounders
Speaker 1: and a couple of second rounders for DeShawn Watson. Well, Dan,
Speaker 1: I worked the draft when when Mayfield and Darnald and
Speaker 1: those guys came out Josh Allen, So, I have a
Speaker 1: pretty good feel for those quarterbacks before they even got
Speaker 1: into the league. And I think Darnald is a really
Speaker 1: talented guy. I'm not willing to give up on Sam
Speaker 1: Darnold now. I would have to study them and really
Speaker 1: dig into it and see. But I think the Jets
Speaker 1: have had a number of issues, and to pen that
Speaker 1: on Darnald or say, hey, the reason we've not been
Speaker 1: very good is because we don't have a quarterback, I'm
Speaker 1: not willing to say that. I would have to take
Speaker 1: a much harder look. And maybe their franchise quarterback is
Speaker 1: in the building right now. Have you ever had a
Speaker 1: player confront you after something you've said or said maybe
Speaker 1: a previous game, previous week, previous year when you go
Speaker 1: to a game location. One, oh, not in a long time.
Speaker 1: Not in a long time. I've had players at different
Speaker 1: times who have come into a production meaning and had
Speaker 1: issue with something that I've said, which I'm open to
Speaker 1: having a conversation about it. I feel like I'm fair, Dan,
Speaker 1: I think every I think every broadcaster feels like they're fair, right,
Speaker 1: But I you know, that you don't go in with
Speaker 1: an agenda. But I'm I'm willing to have a conversation
Speaker 1: if I'm critical of a player. I feel very strongly
Speaker 1: in what I'm saying, So I'm more than willing to
Speaker 1: have a conversation as to why I said what I said,
Speaker 1: and then if if I need to be corrected, if
Speaker 1: I thought maybe they were responsible for something in which
Speaker 1: they weren't, because we don't, especially when you're talking about
Speaker 1: secondary players, you don't always know. Sometimes it looks like
Speaker 1: it was this particular guy and I and I know
Speaker 1: coverages as well as anyone, but uh, and I'll admit,
Speaker 1: I mean, I'll certainly come out and you know, make
Speaker 1: amends to it. So it was never a go time.
Speaker 1: You never thought like somebody wanted to get physical with you. No, No,
Speaker 1: I've never I don't think I've ever said anything that
Speaker 1: would have offended anybody. Well, it's early in the week, Troy,
Speaker 1: so who knows, you know, I don't know how about you, Dan?
Speaker 1: Has anybody ever coming on? Yes? A Rod A Rod
Speaker 1: and Lawrence Taylor. Wow? Yeah, so we have something in
Speaker 1: common with Lawrence Taylor. That's that's impressive. Those are holidays
Speaker 1: coming after you. Lawrence scared me. I can see the
Speaker 1: whites of his eyes through his dark sunglasses, and I
Speaker 1: thought he was coming after me. Lawrence Taylor scared me
Speaker 1: and I have fun. Safe travels up there. Tell Joe
Speaker 1: Buck we said hello. Always great to catch up with you. Troy,
Speaker 1: thank you. That's Troy Aikman. He'll be on the call
Speaker 1: a Fox will bring you the bucks and pack at
Speaker 1: three eastern. That'll be on Sunday. Take a break, We'll
Speaker 1: bring you our play of the day. Also best and
Speaker 1: Worst of the weekend. Your phone calls coming up. Thanks
Speaker 1: for listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure
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Speaker 1: I've got a one line. Zion Williamson quiz Zion has
Speaker 1: two thirty plus point games in his career without attempting
Speaker 1: a three pointer. Now that's not that big of a
Speaker 1: deal for like a post player, but for an outside player.
Speaker 1: In the past five years, the real three Point Era,
Speaker 1: which player in the NBA has the most thirty point
Speaker 1: games without attempting at three? In those games? Didn't attempt
Speaker 1: a three, not even attempt, not hit, but attempt. There's
Speaker 1: guys like Brook Lopez and Dwight Howard, guys you'd expect
Speaker 1: LaMarcus Aldridge. But this is a non center, none big man,
Speaker 1: non big man, Okay, a guy who's known for being
Speaker 1: a good score. Maybe not a great score, but a
Speaker 1: good score guard forward. I think he's been listed at both,
Speaker 1: but more I think he's a small forward, small forward
Speaker 1: and playing now. Yes, he's been playing for He's probably eleven,
Speaker 1: twelve years into his career. Not a household name unless
Speaker 1: you're a basketball fan. Yeah, I'm feeling PAULI set it
Speaker 1: up a Jeff Green answer, bigger, better player? No, Jeff Green, Well, okay,
Speaker 1: maybe he, I think if you're not NBA fan, Jeff
Speaker 1: Green's not a big name. This guy's made some All
Speaker 1: Star teams for sure. Is he on his original team? No,
Speaker 1: he's not a good good dude, good one. Okay. Does
Speaker 1: he have a very generic name, Not at all. He
Speaker 1: actually has a very unique name. First initial, last initial
Speaker 1: the same. You're you're so close. I think you have
Speaker 1: it in his correct I'm so excited that you got it,
Speaker 1: Tomar dear all right. Uh. He has seventeen games in
Speaker 1: his career where he didn't attempt to three but scored
Speaker 1: thirty points. Very niche, and he plays for a coach
Speaker 1: that doesn't like the three in San Antonio. Perfect. Let's
Speaker 1: leave off our phone calls with Ellen and Wisconsin, Ellen
Speaker 1: best and worst of the weekend. Hi Danas for in
Speaker 1: my column driving across beautiful Wisconsin. That's sweeting and so
Speaker 1: obviously I'm on my yeah, I know, I'm on my
Speaker 1: way to what I hope to be Titletown. My worst
Speaker 1: of the weekend, So my best of the weekend is
Speaker 1: the NFL games. I thought they were all great. My
Speaker 1: worst of the weekend as the Cardinals sit, was Cardinals
Speaker 1: lowball and Yaddi or Molina, and also whatever happened to
Speaker 1: the Rooney rule? And lastly, I want to ask if
Speaker 1: just your listeners would give up some positive thoughts or
Speaker 1: prayers to Karis Lavert. That's obviously the worst of everybody's weekend,
Speaker 1: all right, And yeah he's got a yeah, a mass
Speaker 1: on his kidney, I believe, and not quite sure what
Speaker 1: the prognosis is. I was surprised the trade went through,
Speaker 1: but I don't know what happened with a physical with
Speaker 1: Carris Lavert in Indiana. He was involved in the hardened trade.
Speaker 1: But wait, one of her worst was Yaddi or Melina
Speaker 1: getting low ball in a Cardinal not gonna get a
Speaker 1: new one. That was mine? Oh that was yours too. Damn,
Speaker 1: let me see David, Nova Scotia. Wonderful place to visit,
Speaker 1: Nova Scotia. Hey but hey, Danny, no worse the weekend here.
Speaker 1: My Bucks make it to the NFC title game with
Speaker 1: Tom Brady's huge love seeing the defense come through. It
Speaker 1: was almost, you know, throwback asque with Devin Whiten and
Speaker 1: Winfield Junior really leading the cause. So stoked to see
Speaker 1: the Bucks in Green Bay. Want to get your take
Speaker 1: on what's going to take for the Bucks to make
Speaker 1: it to the Super Bowl. Danny, thanks for the time. Well,
Speaker 1: you gotta be consistent on offense, you know, don't be
Speaker 1: afraid to um. I don't think you can rely on
Speaker 1: your defense. If Aaron Rodgers just went through the Rams
Speaker 1: and granted Aaron Donald was in one hundred percent, you're
Speaker 1: gonna put up some points. And where are you gonna
Speaker 1: go to get those points? Mike Evans not one hundred percent?
Speaker 1: Did have a touchdown? Godwin's got to hold onto the football.
Speaker 1: Can you run the ball? And you also have to
Speaker 1: play very good defense against Aaron Rodgers. You know that
Speaker 1: Packers offense is playing at an all time high this season.
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