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Speaker 1: Welcome to Good Game with Sarah Spain, where for the

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Speaker 1: first time in our lives, we're actually glad that one

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Speaker 1: specific bracket challenge doesn't include a women's bracket, probably because

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Speaker 1: anyone smart enough to fill out a women's bracket knows

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Speaker 1: better than to be interested in a trip to Mars

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Speaker 1: on a piece of SpaceX debris. It's Thursday, March twentieth,

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Speaker 1: and on today's show, we'll be talking to legendary Yukon

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Speaker 1: hoops coach Gino Oriama about why being delusional is a

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Speaker 1: good thing at least of your pagebackers, the changes that

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Speaker 1: he wants to see in the NCAA tourney format, how

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Speaker 1: his coaching approach differs when it's NCAA tournament time, and

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Speaker 1: the moment he officially retired from playing basketball, Plus a

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Speaker 1: comedy we can't wait to watch, a warning to all

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Speaker 1: who apply, and the wait for Unrivaled begins again. That's

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Speaker 1: all coming up right after this welcome back slices. Here's

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Speaker 1: what you need to know today. Let's start with Unrivaled,

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Speaker 1: where the inaugural season wrapped up on Monday with Rose

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Speaker 1: BC taking the chachampionship with a sixty two to fifty

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Speaker 1: nine points in the semi finals against the Laces.

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Speaker 2: Chelsea Gray recorded.

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Speaker 1: Eighteen in the final, including a half court buzzer beater

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Speaker 1: to give her Rose team a two point lead heading

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Speaker 1: into the fourth quarter. It was Britney Sykes who scored

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Speaker 1: the championship winning shot, a free throw to finish the

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Speaker 1: game with her season high twenty one points. Each Rose

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Speaker 1: was named Finals MVP. By the Way, shout out to

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Speaker 1: Rose coach Nola Henry and Vinyl coach Teresa Weatherspoon, the

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Speaker 1: the championship coincidence, we think not.

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Speaker 2: One last piece of unrivaled news.

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Speaker 1: To wrap up a spectacular inaugural season, the league also

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Speaker 1: announced the remainder of its end of season award winners,

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Speaker 1: with Nafisa Collier earning MVP honors, Angel Reese, who missed

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Speaker 1: the championship game with a hand injury, taking home Defensive

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Speaker 1: posted a thirteen to one regular season record, named Coach

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Speaker 1: of the Year to College Oops while Tomorrow is the

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Speaker 1: official start of the sixty four team NCAA Women's college

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Speaker 1: basketball bracket. We've got two more first four games today,

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Speaker 1: including Niches alma mater, William and Mary taking on High

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Speaker 1: Point tonight at nine pm Eastern.

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Speaker 2: And while we're.

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Speaker 1: Talking March madness, don't forget to fill out a bracket.

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Speaker 1: To be part of our good game pool. You got

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Speaker 1: to get it in before eleven thirty am Eastern on Friday.

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Speaker 1: Link is in the show notes. More Women Soups. There's

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Speaker 1: a scripted comedy show about the WNBA in the works

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Speaker 1: called The w It'll be executive produced by Cheneo Gumackay,

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Speaker 1: is now an analyst for ESPN, and her longtime agent,

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Speaker 1: Allison Gaylor, with the show loosely based on their relationship.

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Speaker 1: The show will be developed by Peacock, with Carly Mensch

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Speaker 1: and Liz Flahive, the creators of Netflix hit Glow, serving

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Speaker 2: Even More Women Soups.

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Speaker 1: The ESPN original series Full Court Press has been renewed

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Speaker 1: for a second season. The series gives viewers unmatched access

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Speaker 1: insight into the journeys of select hoopers at schools across

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Speaker 2: Game footage, and more.

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Speaker 1: This upcoming season will feature Notre Dame guard Hannah Hidalgo,

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Speaker 1: USC forward Kiki Eriefen, and LSU guard Flaje Johnson. The

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Speaker 1: first season, produced by Omaha Productions and Words and Pictures

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Speaker 1: in partnership with the.

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Speaker 2: Worldwide Leader, premiered in May of last year.

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Speaker 1: That one featured iOS Kaitlin Clark, South Carolina's Camilla Cardoso

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Speaker 1: I'm super excited for this edition. First two episodes of

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Speaker 1: at one pm Eastern on ESPN. To the NWSL, where

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Speaker 1: the owners of Expansion Side Denver announced plans this week

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Speaker 1: Racing Louisville's Bethany Balser, one of the league's most prolific

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Speaker 1: When we come back, we get d Lulu with coach

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Speaker 1: Gino Oriema stick around.

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Speaker 1: He's the head coach of the Yukon women's basketball team.

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Speaker 1: He holds the record for most wins and highest winning

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Speaker 1: coach at nineteen eighty five, he's led Yukon to nineteen

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Speaker 1: undefeated conference seasons, including six that were part of undefeated

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Speaker 1: It's always a long bio no matter how much you

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Speaker 1: Your parents were working factory jobs in Pennsylvania. How do

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Speaker 3: For the year. So I had to have a construction job.

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Speaker 2: We got Yukon in our region. I mean, it's we

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Speaker 1: That you haven't liked that super regional format in the past,

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Speaker 3: that way, no one has to go three time zones

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00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:24,920
Speaker 3: and there's going to be a three time zones every year. Yeah,

434
00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:29,280
Speaker 3: it seems like until they do away with this. Plus,

435
00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:33,320
Speaker 3: not to mention, there's eight teams going to be in Spokane,

436
00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:36,120
Speaker 3: no disrespect because I've been there a bunch of times

437
00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:38,800
Speaker 3: and I really love that city. Are there really eight

438
00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:43,480
Speaker 3: comparable hotels to host all eight teams? M Chances are

439
00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:44,040
Speaker 3: probably not.

440
00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:46,960
Speaker 2: And the NCAAs signs those right.

441
00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:50,320
Speaker 3: The NCAA signs those correct. If you're in the one seed,

442
00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:52,160
Speaker 3: you get this hotel. If you're the two seed, get

443
00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:54,359
Speaker 3: that hotel. Blah blah blah blah.

444
00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:56,720
Speaker 1: There's a lot of pressure every year, especially for you.

445
00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:00,520
Speaker 1: It's kind of almost always win or bust year. You've

446
00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:03,320
Speaker 1: got asy Fudd potentially making a decision on her draft

447
00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:06,240
Speaker 1: status based on the team's success in the tournament. You've

448
00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:09,640
Speaker 1: got Pagebeckers, who many would argue would be the best

449
00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:12,639
Speaker 1: Yukon player ever to graduate without a title. If you

450
00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:16,280
Speaker 1: don't win, do the stakes feel even somehow a little

451
00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:17,160
Speaker 1: bit higher this year?

452
00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:25,600
Speaker 3: Well, not for me necessarily, but certainly you can make

453
00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:31,520
Speaker 3: a case step for them, it may mean more. You know,

454
00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:39,160
Speaker 3: I've seen freshmen play at Yukon that think that every

455
00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:41,160
Speaker 3: single year they're going to be in the National Championship

456
00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:43,520
Speaker 3: game because they were in the National CHAMPIONSI Game their

457
00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:48,160
Speaker 3: freshman year. And then they realize, no, you're not. And

458
00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,159
Speaker 3: as you get older and you see it start to

459
00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:54,280
Speaker 3: slip away. Now you can go one of two ways.

460
00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:57,440
Speaker 3: And it's the same for you know you're going to graduate.

461
00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:02,720
Speaker 3: You can either tang because you're scared to death what's

462
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:06,480
Speaker 3: next for me and I'm not ready? Or you just

463
00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:11,200
Speaker 3: you know, blow up because this this is the moment

464
00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:14,160
Speaker 3: I've been waiting for my whole life to go out

465
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:16,880
Speaker 3: with a bang, win the National Championship my senior year,

466
00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,280
Speaker 3: right off into the sunset, which is what I should

467
00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:24,480
Speaker 3: have done with Stewie. When Stewie left, I got on

468
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:25,920
Speaker 3: that train that she was on.

469
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:27,200
Speaker 2: A pretty long time ago.

470
00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:29,840
Speaker 3: Coach Happy trails to everybody.

471
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:33,560
Speaker 2: Yes, four in a row, and I'm out, I'm out,

472
00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:37,320
Speaker 2: I'm out. We'll get back to that. We'll get back

473
00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:39,960
Speaker 2: to that decision. I want to ask if you have

474
00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:43,680
Speaker 2: a specific practice or.

475
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:48,120
Speaker 1: Habit for trying to get your players centered and grounded

476
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:50,679
Speaker 1: as you head into this stressful, most important part of

477
00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:51,119
Speaker 1: the season.

478
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:57,080
Speaker 3: What I have found works the best at this time

479
00:24:57,119 --> 00:25:05,199
Speaker 3: of the year is less, less practice, less angst, less

480
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:10,880
Speaker 3: harping on things less because and I'm guilty of that

481
00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:14,880
Speaker 3: this year a little bit up to this point, because

482
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:18,359
Speaker 3: we're such a young team. We have Page who's played

483
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:24,639
Speaker 3: here for four years, asy hardly played it. All the

484
00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:27,840
Speaker 3: rest are freshmen and South Forest, so we're like a

485
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:30,600
Speaker 3: goofy team. We got this, and then most of our

486
00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:34,280
Speaker 3: guys are down here and you come to realize whatever

487
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:37,040
Speaker 3: is wrong with our team, whatever our issues are, are

488
00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:39,800
Speaker 3: not getting fixed, not at this point in the season.

489
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:43,159
Speaker 3: So all you can do is keep harping or accentuating

490
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:45,080
Speaker 3: what our strengths are. This is what we're good at,

491
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:46,679
Speaker 3: this is what we have to keep doing. Boom ba

492
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:48,880
Speaker 3: boom ba, boom ba boom And if we keep doing this,

493
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:51,400
Speaker 3: we're gonna win. If we keep doing this, we're gonna win.

494
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:54,479
Speaker 3: Instead of what you do during the regular season is

495
00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:56,760
Speaker 3: we suck because we do these things wrong all the

496
00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:59,800
Speaker 3: time and if we don't fix these we're not gonna win. Well,

497
00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:02,960
Speaker 3: that's what get you through five months. But this time

498
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 3: of the year can't be like that. And be like

499
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:10,160
Speaker 3: that now with Diana and Sue and Swim and Asia

500
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:13,200
Speaker 3: Stewie and those guys, it didn't matter what I did.

501
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 3: They were so good and so talented. Just point them

502
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:19,639
Speaker 3: in the right direction. But today's world that we live in,

503
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:26,320
Speaker 3: you gotta be it's okay, sweetheart, everything's fine, You're great, right,

504
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 3: You're perfect? And then you got to text them when

505
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 3: they get home. Did I tell you you're perfect? Did

506
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:31,320
Speaker 3: I tell you how great you are?

507
00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:32,040
Speaker 2: Wow?

508
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 3: Just to remind everybody, Hey, it's all about my self esteem,

509
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:36,639
Speaker 3: you know.

510
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:38,680
Speaker 2: I can compliment sandwiches coach.

511
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:40,400
Speaker 3: Absolutely absolutely.

512
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 2: It's a different style now.

513
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:45,239
Speaker 3: Different style, different style. I can say back in the day,

514
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:47,320
Speaker 3: I can say that's the worst goddamn past I've ever

515
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:49,919
Speaker 3: seen in my life, and they would look at me

516
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:51,919
Speaker 3: and go, no, it's not yeah, and then it was

517
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,720
Speaker 3: just play on these guys. They would go, Coach thinks

518
00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:56,359
Speaker 3: I'm the worst pastor in the history of the world.

519
00:26:57,720 --> 00:26:58,560
Speaker 2: I guess I should quit.

520
00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:01,760
Speaker 3: I didn't say that. I said that's the worst past

521
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:03,680
Speaker 3: I've ever seen. I didn't say you're the worst past

522
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:07,640
Speaker 3: I've ever seen in my life. But that's how things

523
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 3: get interpreted sometimes today.

524
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a very tough thing for coaches to adjust to,

525
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:17,480
Speaker 1: that's for sure. And the whole game is there's been

526
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:19,920
Speaker 1: a lot of adjustments. And you know, even just a

527
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:22,119
Speaker 1: couple of years ago, Sodona Prince and a couple others

528
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:24,920
Speaker 1: were posting about the inequities and the march madness treatment

529
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 1: of the.

530
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:26,200
Speaker 2: Men and the women.

531
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 1: And I wonder, even in natural time, if you've seen

532
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:32,439
Speaker 1: specific improvements to the infrastructure and everything else. Obviously the

533
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:34,920
Speaker 1: players are changing, but what about what they're playing in

534
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:39,119
Speaker 1: and what's still lacking ever since those changes started taking place.

535
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:43,600
Speaker 3: You know, the most interesting thing ever, when I saw

536
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:49,160
Speaker 3: that post about what the weight room looked like, I thought,

537
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 3: there's a weight room at the Final four. I didn't

538
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 3: know that been the Final four twenty three times. Now

539
00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 3: one of my kids is lifted a weight, Like, how

540
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:02,400
Speaker 3: would you even know that there's not a weight room

541
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 3: or there is a weight room, or that the weight

542
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:08,640
Speaker 3: sucked or whatever? And who cares? Now? If you want

543
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:13,680
Speaker 3: to say, listen the time between Monday when you finish

544
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 3: in the regionals and now you got to play Friday night.

545
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 3: That needs to be fixed. So if you're going to

546
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:21,919
Speaker 3: look at what needs to be fixed, look at the

547
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,960
Speaker 3: big picture and fix the big things that really matter.

548
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:27,880
Speaker 3: That go into winning and losing. What kind of weight

549
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,359
Speaker 3: room you have doesn't go into winning and losing. That's

550
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 3: just a but as.

551
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:34,640
Speaker 1: You know, the tangible nature of that and the fact

552
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 1: that it was visibly so different is ultimately what inspired

553
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:41,480
Speaker 1: and independent review, a massive new TV contract, all of

554
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 1: the things, even getting to use the name March Madness.

555
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 2: It all stemmed from for a lot.

556
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 1: Of people needing to see visually just how disparate the

557
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 1: resources are, whether or not they really matter to your success. Right.

558
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 3: But you know what's funny, Sarah, The people who decided

559
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 3: they didn't want to use March Madness were the women's

560
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 3: basketball committee when it was first offered to them twenty

561
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 3: years ago.

562
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 2: I don't know this.

563
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 3: Tell me this, coach, Well, listen, we want to use

564
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:08,719
Speaker 3: my No, we don't want to be associated with the men,

565
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 3: so we're going to do it different. And then all

566
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 3: of a sudden, when it benefits you to be associated

567
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 3: with the men, now you want it and you pretend

568
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 3: like you never had an opportunity to get it, And

569
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 3: that's not true.

570
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:20,959
Speaker 2: So I imagine you were not part of that committee.

571
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 3: No, I wasn't on that committee. No, okay, I mean

572
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 3: I think the things that we should be talking about

573
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 3: are competition wise, Yes, we all want to stay in

574
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 3: the best hotels. Well there isn't enough for them to

575
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 3: go around for everybody, so great, so just suck it up.

576
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 3: And you think every every men's team stays in the

577
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 3: four seasons, No they don't. So you're the top seeds,

578
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 3: you're going to stay in certain places you're not. Okay, great,

579
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 3: I get that. Then why are we having Why are

580
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 3: we having these things where there's eight eight teams and

581
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 3: one location. So we say what we want, but then

582
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 3: we do things that don't give us an opportunity to

583
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 3: have those things. So for me, it's why are we

584
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 3: playing Friday night? So the team that plays Monday is

585
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 3: at a huge disadvantage. The guys finished playing on Sunday

586
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:14,479
Speaker 3: and they don't play it on Saturday. So they have Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday.

587
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:19,479
Speaker 3: Monday Tuesday and Wednesday, Thursday, Friday. We finished Monday, you

588
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 3: have Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday to get ready to and one

589
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:24,720
Speaker 3: of those days of the travel day to get ready

590
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 3: for the biggest game of the year and biggest game

591
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 3: of these kids' lives. That's the stuff they should be

592
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 3: looking at. To me the other stuff. You know, it's

593
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 3: like you're going down the shore, right, You're going down

594
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 3: the shore to visit your friends. They don't have a bed.

595
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 3: What are you going to do? There's twelve people staying here.

596
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 3: Throw a blanket on the floor and sleep on the floor.

597
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 3: Why Because you went down there for the ocean. The

598
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 3: party is the fun. So now you're going to the

599
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 3: final four? Do you really care about anything other than

600
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 3: we're here to play, man, So let's give everybody a

601
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 3: chance to play their best. Yeah, it would be my.

602
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 2: Argument focus on that.

603
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 1: You know, as these changes happen, we've seen a lot

604
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 1: of coaches, particularly on the men's side, sort of walk away.

605
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 1: They're like, I don't want to deal with nil and transfer,

606
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 1: portal and other elements of this changing landscape. How have

607
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 1: those changes affected you and why do you think it's

608
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 1: less of a big name departure on the women's side

609
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 1: as results of the changes.

610
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 3: Well, most of the older coaches in women's bast I've

611
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 3: already left, so you're left with a bunch of young

612
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 3: coaches who don't know any better. So that's number one. NIL.

613
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 3: I'm big proponent of in IL. I love it. Transfer

614
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 3: portal that's ruined the game. Okay, not that they can

615
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 3: transfer and not sit out, but they can't do it

616
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 3: every year. How were we supposed to put together a team

617
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 3: when every year you have to put together a new

618
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 3: team potentially, how are you supposed to operate when every

619
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 3: kid is a free agent at the end of every year.

620
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 3: So in the NBA, the NFL, you know who the

621
00:31:56,880 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 3: free agents are. Here, every kid on every roster is

622
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 3: a potential free agent who can operate in that kind

623
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 3: of circumstance. And then you have they all have agents

624
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 3: and they'll say to you, this is what this kid's worth.

625
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 3: I'm like says who says, who, Well, this is the

626
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 3: market that this kid's worth. Okay, show me where that

627
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 3: kid has an offer that's worth that. So you've got

628
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 3: the agents that now are running these families and these kids,

629
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 3: and what are you going to have. You're going to

630
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 3: have tremendous inequity where only a certain number of schools.

631
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 3: It's going to become like football, it's going to become

632
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 3: like college fobal that if you're not one of those

633
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 3: ten schools, you will have no chance to ever play

634
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 3: in the National Championship Game.

635
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 1: And I feel like there's a lot of benefits to

636
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 1: player mobility. You only have four years to play, so yes,

637
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 1: go somewhere where you get to play and where you're happy.

638
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 1: And also the ability to leave and do it so

639
00:32:56,160 --> 00:33:00,160
Speaker 1: quickly and keep doing it means that every time you

640
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 1: come up against adversity or challenge, you might just decide

641
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 1: I'll be happier somewhere else, and then you never learn

642
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 1: how to work through the thing that's holding you back

643
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 1: where you are.

644
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 3: And it starts in high school. I don't like my

645
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 3: high school team, I just go to a different high school.

646
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 3: I don't like my AAU travel team. I just go

647
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 3: start a new team. So when you go watch high

648
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 3: school kids play, now, it's horrendous why there's only one

649
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 3: good player on every team, right because all the other

650
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 3: good players left because they weren't the best player.

651
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 1: Right, So inconsistency and every rhythm and everything. Yeah, I

652
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 1: understand coaches argument on that side. I do think it's

653
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 1: right that players don't get stuck somewhere for their whole

654
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 1: career and sit out. But I do think, yeah, there's

655
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 1: there's probably some limits on movement that would make the

656
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 1: game better.

657
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, because that imagine if you were an NBA owner

658
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 3: and you didn't have any contracts.

659
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like James Harden. Every year, am I supposed

660
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 1: to build a team? You're on a seven year contract

661
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 1: and every year you're like, no, I'm out.

662
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, imagine if we had to do that, I mean,

663
00:33:59,280 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 3: if they had to.

664
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 2: Do Yeah, it's not fair in terms of building.

665
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 3: You're also going to have players going I'm not playing

666
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 3: because they see it in the pros. Hey trade me

667
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 3: or I'm out. I'm not playing, So now what are

668
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 3: you gonna do it? Hey, I'm not playing in that

669
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 3: Bowl game?

670
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:13,720
Speaker 2: Yeah?

671
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 3: What's going to happen in basketball when somebody goes, listen,

672
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:19,799
Speaker 3: I'm not playing in a conference tournament because I don't

673
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:23,280
Speaker 3: want to get hurt and jump down my future.

674
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 2: Yeah.

675
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 1: There are so many benefits to the influx of investment, attention,

676
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,240
Speaker 1: everything in the women's game, and then it also means

677
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,360
Speaker 1: that we will be plagued by some of the issues

678
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 1: that are plagues in the men's side. No question, I

679
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 1: want to talk about Diana Trossi's retirement.

680
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 2: How did you find out?

681
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 1: Did she offer you at least a text or a

682
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,279
Speaker 1: phone call or was it the way we all found out.

683
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 3: I did get a heads up, and you know when

684
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 3: I went out there last year for her last regular

685
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 3: season home game, you kind of knew that. I mean,

686
00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:00,280
Speaker 3: she's at an age where and this is this happened

687
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,880
Speaker 3: with her, it happened with a lot of the other players.

688
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 3: Sue mentioned this a lot, staying in shape the entire

689
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 3: year when you're forty forty one, forty two.

690
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 2: Not.

691
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 3: I don't mean just stay in great shape because you

692
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 3: want to live long to get ready to play high

693
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:24,319
Speaker 3: level basketball. They can't do it anymore now. If you

694
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:26,799
Speaker 3: could just say, hey, d you just have to come

695
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 3: for the playoffs, she wouldn't have retired.

696
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 2: Yeah.

697
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:34,319
Speaker 1: I heard Candace Parker too, tell Sue and Megan on

698
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 1: their show that one moment she had was playing against

699
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 1: younger players and thinking, man, I don't want them to

700
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 1: be like, oh that's Kandace Parker.

701
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 2: That's it, right, because you're.

702
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:46,880
Speaker 1: You know, when you're older and playing, you're not peak.

703
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 1: You the idea of like, oh that's Diana Tarassi. I

704
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 1: don't know, she's not all that.

705
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 3: No, but you're forty No, that's what I'm saying. I

706
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:56,799
Speaker 3: used to play one on. I used to play one

707
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:58,800
Speaker 3: on one with my son who ended up playing in college.

708
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 3: He's six to two, and we would play and all

709
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 3: of a sudden when he was like sixteen fifteen fourteen,

710
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:12,280
Speaker 3: and he beat me and I never played him again.

711
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:16,239
Speaker 3: I said, I'm retiring, and my record against you was

712
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 3: one thousand, six hundred and one. Because you're right, you

713
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,360
Speaker 3: don't want to keep putting yourself in that situation. But

714
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 3: at the same time, it was bittersweet. It was sad,

715
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:28,759
Speaker 3: you know it's coming, but at the same time, like

716
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,240
Speaker 3: I'm never going to have a chance to hear play anymore.

717
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 3: Like the game is not going to be the same

718
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,839
Speaker 3: without her out there. But at the same time, if

719
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:40,959
Speaker 3: that's not the real her out there, and it's better

720
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 3: that she's.

721
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 1: Not out there, what was your relationship with her like

722
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 1: during her pro years.

723
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 3: One of the reasons that I took the Olympic job

724
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,759
Speaker 3: was I knew i'd be coaching her, yeah, And I thought,

725
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:54,319
Speaker 3: who gets an opportunity to do that. Who gets an

726
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 3: opportunity to coach a kid from when they're eighteen to

727
00:36:57,160 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 3: twenty two and then coaching when they're thirty two. I

728
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:03,879
Speaker 3: thought this would be the greatest thing in the world

729
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 3: that I get an opportunity to spend eight years with

730
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 3: arguably the greatest player I've ever coached, and to me

731
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:16,879
Speaker 3: those eight years to go back there, I had an opportunity.

732
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 3: I remember one of our first meetings to sit down

733
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 3: with her, watch some film and go deep. Where's the fun,

734
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:27,800
Speaker 3: loving kid who played the joy of the game, loving life?

735
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 3: I said, where did that person go? Because you are

736
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:35,880
Speaker 3: an angry player? You play angry? And I realized, you

737
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 3: go to Europe for all that time, you're bounced around

738
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:41,720
Speaker 3: from this place to that place just to make money,

739
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 3: and all of a sudden you become an angry basketball.

740
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 2: Player mercenary exactly.

741
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:50,279
Speaker 3: And so I tried to bring some joy back into it.

742
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:52,799
Speaker 3: And we had a lot of great moments, a lot

743
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:57,359
Speaker 3: of fun times, and I could say probably as one

744
00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 3: of the highlights, if not the greatest highlight of my life,

745
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:02,839
Speaker 3: was winning an Olympic gold medal with her.

746
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:05,839
Speaker 1: You have a lot of lure behind you, and for

747
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 1: a long time, I think back in the old days,

748
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 1: when you could tell players it was the worst past

749
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:10,320
Speaker 1: you've ever seen in your life.

750
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 2: You've got a reputation sometimes.

751
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 1: For being tough, for being hard, for breaking people down

752
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 1: at times, but also you have such a sweet relationship

753
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 1: with so many of your players, and like you just said,

754
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:22,320
Speaker 1: you worked to bring the joy out of her game. Again,

755
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:25,440
Speaker 1: what do you think the most common misconception about you

756
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:26,280
Speaker 1: is as a coach.

757
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 3: Well, when people come to our practices, they're shocked that

758
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 3: hew little I yell like they think, you know, I'm

759
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 3: a yeller and a screamer, and I actually I actually

760
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:44,280
Speaker 3: do not. Now. I said this to people all the time.

761
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:46,839
Speaker 3: I said, how many of you have kids? They raise

762
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 3: their hand. I said, tell me, if you said the

763
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:53,359
Speaker 3: same thing to your kid three times in the last

764
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 3: fifteen seconds, tell me your disposition doesn't change, right, right.

765
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 3: So here's the thing. I make it personal, like I

766
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 3: want them to think that I'm doing it for them

767
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 3: because I am. I want them to believe that I

768
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:12,919
Speaker 3: believe in them because I do, and that I want

769
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 3: more for them than they think they have. So I didn't.

770
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 3: I didn't live that life. I took shortcuts all everywhere

771
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:29,279
Speaker 3: I went, like, you know, go to school, get great

772
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:32,440
Speaker 3: grades in the subjects I liked, not the ones I

773
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 3: didn't like. You know, go do stuff until when I'm

774
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 3: pretty good at it, doing something different. So now my kids.

775
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 3: If they don't graduate, they don't go up on that wall.

776
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 3: Why because I'm not going to let them make that mistake.

777
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 3: If I don't get the most out of them, squeeze

778
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 3: every drop out of them, then I feel like the

779
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 3: promise that I made them when I was recruiting them,

780
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 3: I'm not living up to it. Because at this point

781
00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 3: in my life, do I really need another national champion?

782
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 3: How does that change my life? Not one iota. If

783
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:07,840
Speaker 3: Page gets one, it changes her life forever. So I

784
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 3: don't want to leave any coach, and I don't know

785
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 3: that you can do that by It's okay, sweetheart.

786
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 1: No, the best coaches are the ones you don't want

787
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:17,799
Speaker 1: to disappoint, And in order to feel that way, you

788
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 1: have to feel the weight of their expectations for you,

789
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:23,239
Speaker 1: and that requires some manipulation, even if it's not always nice.

790
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:27,759
Speaker 3: And playing at Yukon is the most rewarding place to

791
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 3: play in America because if you're pretty good here, the

792
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 3: entire country knows who you are.

793
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 2: That's right.

794
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:35,759
Speaker 3: So it's hard to play here. The bar is set

795
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:38,880
Speaker 3: very high, but it's high for a reason because we

796
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,319
Speaker 3: think you can reach it. And it's my job to

797
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:43,279
Speaker 3: help you reach it. That's to love that.

798
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 1: Okay, last two questions. Three players that didn't play at

799
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:49,319
Speaker 1: Yukon or on the national team that you most wish

800
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 1: you could have.

801
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 3: Coached, ooh, that didn't play on the national team.

802
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 1: Because you got to coach well, or just someone you've

803
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 1: never gotten to coach, either collegiately.

804
00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:58,719
Speaker 2: Or in the national team that you most would like to.

805
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:01,880
Speaker 3: Wow man, And I've been so fortunate. You know how

806
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 3: many Hall of Famers were on those Olympic teams that

807
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:07,399
Speaker 3: I can't think of anybody right off the bat that

808
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:09,880
Speaker 3: I h My goodness.

809
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 2: Graceous we got all of them. What about right now?

810
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 2: Maybe then?

811
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 3: Right now? Well, obviously you know I love Juju and

812
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:19,920
Speaker 3: I love her game, the way she plays. When we

813
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:24,280
Speaker 3: played down in South Carolina, Joyce Edwards and Malaysia Full Wiley.

814
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 3: I mean, those guys are just unbelievably good. You know,

815
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:32,759
Speaker 3: Lauren Betts with somebody that you know, we tried to

816
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 3: get involved with and it's hard, but you know, I've

817
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 3: coached kids like that, you know, when we had Carol Walters,

818
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:43,279
Speaker 3: you know, and you see what they can bring. And

819
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 3: then when you have somebody like that, you're automatically a

820
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 3: different team and you're automatically a favorite to win the

821
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:55,840
Speaker 3: national championship. You know players like that that are just wow.

822
00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 3: But the rest of them, I mean, god, Lee, I

823
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:04,359
Speaker 3: can't think of a single player that I didn't I

824
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 3: didn't coach who I ended up coaching on the national

825
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 3: team that I just thought.

826
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 2: Man, man, oh man, You've had it pretty good.

827
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 3: Nobody deserves this, no this much.

828
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:17,320
Speaker 1: So when you sit down to take a break, tournaments

829
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:20,239
Speaker 1: over and you have a little rest, You've got your

830
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 1: own line of sauces and wines, you've got restaurants.

831
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:25,720
Speaker 2: What's a treat yourself day look like for Geno?

832
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 3: Let's see, I'll give you a typical day answer. Get

833
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:33,880
Speaker 3: up in the morning, go get a workout in, grab

834
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 3: some lunch, go play golf, hang out with a couple buddies,

835
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:45,720
Speaker 3: go home, have dinner with Kathy, and repeat every single day.

836
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 3: And then when I'm at the shore, do all that

837
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 3: except not GoF go to the beach, read a book.

838
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 3: Try to knock off three or four books, you know,

839
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:57,800
Speaker 3: in the span of a month. And that's that's a

840
00:42:57,800 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 3: good August for me.

841
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 2: You got a book on your shelf right now, you're

842
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 2: looking forward to.

843
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:09,439
Speaker 3: I just started, uh, the Song of Achilles. Matter of fact,

844
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 3: the author is a Philadelphia woman, went to pen And

845
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 3: I've always been a Greek mythology buff, like when I

846
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 3: was a kid. That's kind of how I learned how

847
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 3: to read English. You know. I picked anything that was available.

848
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:24,759
Speaker 3: I would read it like I'm the only person. I

849
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:26,359
Speaker 3: was the only person in my town who knew where

850
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 3: Battle Creek, Michigan was, because that's what I make frost

851
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 3: the flakes, So I would be boxes of cereal anything.

852
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:38,400
Speaker 3: And Greek mythology became where I could get lost, you know,

853
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:43,439
Speaker 3: and you know, the whole myth of the whole thing,

854
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 3: the gods and warriors and just wow, I imagine if

855
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 3: I could live that lit, you know, in those times. Yeah,

856
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 3: so Song of Achilles. I just finished reading Gentlemen in Moscow.

857
00:43:56,800 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 3: I don't know if you sold the Netflix show. Uh

858
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:05,280
Speaker 3: so it's harder doing the season. I just finished recently

859
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 3: reading War by Bob Bob Woodward. So yeah, I'm all

860
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:10,880
Speaker 3: over the place.

861
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 2: All over the place. I like.

862
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 1: I like the obsession with mythology, and then you and

863
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 1: then you spend your career surrounding yourself with uh, with

864
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 1: the athenas of the world, the women heroes of the world.

865
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got a lot of Helen of Troy's you

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Speaker 1: Watch internet dudes be in pervs rating zero out of

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Speaker 1: five predictable but no less pestiferous posts review. In an

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Speaker 1: episode of her podcast Straight to Cam, Los Angeles, Sparks

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Speaker 1: player Hammeron Brink told her co host Sadel Curry Lee

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Speaker 2: On social media, Brink looked at the.

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Speaker 1: Comments and saw a bunch of purvy bros cracking jokes.

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Speaker 1: Of gross stuff, some smoopy clips from love and Basketball

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Speaker 1: on the interwebs. Brink said the team normally practices with

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Speaker 1: Now, I've played pickup ball with guys dozens of times,

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