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Here's what we got going on 11 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 2: because of my man James, one of our producers here 12 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:44,840 Speaker 2: at the Volume and on the show behind the scenes 13 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:47,239 Speaker 2: for making this happen. He did it last year, he 14 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:52,200 Speaker 2: did it again this year. Pittsburgh Steelers team captain Cam 15 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 2: Hayward joins us today total stud so we will have 16 00:00:56,480 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 2: him today. The plan is tomorrow at John Middlecoff is 17 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 2: the Instagram. We're gonna do a mail bag, so fire 18 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 2: in those direct messages on my Instagram. We will do 19 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:07,399 Speaker 2: a big mail bag tomorrow. We will have a go 20 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 2: lo pod on Wednesday, and then probably the week of 21 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 2: July fourth, we're probably going dark. People need some time 22 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 2: off in this operation. It's not just me though, I 23 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 2: can't act like i'd be down to work. I'm gonna 24 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 2: take a little breather as well. But so probably no 25 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:26,039 Speaker 2: content after this week. So Cam, Heyward, mailbag, some go 26 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:29,479 Speaker 2: lo pod and we'll have to do for a little while. 27 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 2: But enjoy today. Cam's total stud understand easy to understand 28 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 2: when you listen to him, definitely when you talk to him. 29 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 2: Obviously you watch him play. He's a baller, but just 30 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 2: why he's, you know, the team captain of one of 31 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 2: the most prestigious organizations in all of sports. But before 32 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 2: we dive into the interview, if you're a Steeler fan, 33 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 2: if you're listening to this, I know you guys travel well. 34 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 2: If you want to go to a game, do you 35 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 2: want to watch your team on the road. Are you 36 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 2: a football fan? Do you want to watch your team 37 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 2: on the road? Chief fan? 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Appreciate you having me. 58 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 2: How's it going. It's going good. 59 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 1: You know, we got some good weather in Pittsburgh finally, 60 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: so you know, I embracing the sun. 61 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 2: You know, people forever and you grew up, you know, 62 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:10,360 Speaker 2: NFL family, been in football your whole life back in 63 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 2: the day, like seventies and eighties, is like you do 64 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 2: whatever the hell you wanted over summer to show up 65 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 2: in training camp and get in shape. Clearly that's changed. 66 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 2: What's your workout program really from the season ends? OTA's 67 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 2: isn't probably as crazy when you first came into the league. 68 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 2: Is it just to maintain or like, did you already 69 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 2: hit a lift hard this morning? 70 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 3: How's that? 71 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 2: What's the plan? 72 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 1: So my morning is what we had our run at seven, 73 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 1: our lift at eight and thirty, and then I sign 74 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 1: up for pilates after, so I'm doing that, and then 75 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 1: we have my son's baseball game, so I get to 76 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 1: get out again and run around some more. 77 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 2: When you say the run and the lift, like, do 78 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 2: you go into the team facility or do that separate? 79 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 1: I'm doing that separately. So there's usually a couple of 80 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 1: fields around. And I've been working with my trainer for 81 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 1: what five or six years, and you know it's worked 82 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 1: out pretty good, and you know, now it's time to 83 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 1: just really kicking in the gear. I feel like everything 84 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 1: before is like, you know, you're working towards OTAs you're 85 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 1: working towards manicamp, but like now this is a time 86 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 1: where you know, we're really getting into good shape, running 87 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 1: a bunch. You know, it's not just taking in the playbook, 88 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:24,480 Speaker 1: it's you know, we're pressing the gas now. 89 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:26,839 Speaker 2: I mean you've seen it all now over the decade 90 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 2: of just OTAs. I've never been to one of your 91 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 2: guys practices, but just seeing from Jim Harbaugh up to 92 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 2: Kyle Shanahan just it's just a lot different than it was, 93 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:39,159 Speaker 2: you know, ten twelve years ago in terms of the intensity. 94 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:42,279 Speaker 2: You still feel like the way Tomlin operates it intense. 95 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 2: Obviously you've been in the league a long time. You 96 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:48,840 Speaker 2: approach it differently or is it not mandated? But are 97 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 2: you kind of taking certain practices off, you know in 98 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:55,040 Speaker 2: June or late April May right, just to keep your 99 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 2: body fresh for the season. 100 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:58,839 Speaker 1: Well, you know, the player I mean wants to keep 101 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:02,159 Speaker 1: going no matter what. And you know, I think the 102 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:04,840 Speaker 1: coaches have you know, tempered me down in this time 103 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 1: so I can really take advantage during the season. But 104 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 1: you know, with a guy like me or you know, 105 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 1: a guy like tj or Menka, it's not just about 106 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 1: getting those physical reps. It's mental reps. And you know, 107 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 1: it's about the communication we have, you know, holding guys accountable, 108 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 1: showing guys how we practice, show them guys how competitive 109 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 1: we are. I think, you know, our our mini camp 110 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 1: is in OTAs have been some of the most competitive 111 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:36,039 Speaker 1: drills we've had, just because you know, guys are really 112 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 1: buying in and trying to take as much as they 113 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:40,840 Speaker 1: can from each drill. And coach he always likes to 114 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 1: say it's football. Like it's not football. We don't have 115 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 1: pads on right now, but we have to do everything 116 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 1: in our power to really take advantage of this time. 117 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 1: So I think we're really doing that. You know, some 118 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: teams I think do a disservice and saying, oh, we're 119 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 1: not in full pad, so we're going to scale back 120 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:59,839 Speaker 1: and you know we're gonna you know, prevent guys from 121 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:02,480 Speaker 1: doing a lot. But I like to think we accomplished 122 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 1: a lot during that time, really bringing up the young 123 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 1: guys and show them how we how we do things 124 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 1: around here. And let's be real. 125 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 2: I mean, your head coach at his court is a 126 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 2: defensive coach, right, so it's you know, he's not thinking 127 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 2: post routes and run the schemes. He's thinking intensity. So 128 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 2: I would imagine the did you see the video that 129 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 2: went viral, you're probably in the meeting of him talking 130 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 2: about the standard. I think it went last week and 131 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:30,600 Speaker 2: it's just you know, you've played for one guy your 132 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 2: entire career, which is you have a lot of people 133 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:34,599 Speaker 2: that I'm sure you played with the Ohio State that 134 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 2: have played on countless head coaches, even if they've been 135 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 2: on the one team, even if they've jumped around the league. 136 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 2: But it's it's probably got to be there's a lot 137 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 2: of cohesion for you going in what's expected every single year. 138 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 1: Well, like first for me, like even though he's a 139 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 1: defensive minded coach, I feel like when he's in practice, 140 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 1: he's always with the offense. And that's wide receiver. 141 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 2: Played a wide receiver right in college. 142 00:06:55,600 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, And you know he chooses is his team wisely, 143 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 1: and you know he pits each other against each other 144 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 1: in those moments, and so I'm usually against him in 145 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 1: that moment. But you know when I when I I'm 146 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 1: very luckily lucky to be a part of just one 147 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 1: head coach, one team, because I look around and I 148 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 1: see so many guys going through different cycles of coaches, 149 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 1: and you see the ups and downs of it, and 150 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 1: it's hard for a player to really, you know, reach 151 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 1: the standards that are set by each coach because those 152 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 1: could very year and a year out. How do you 153 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 1: you know if a coach actually won't play one scheme 154 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 1: and then the next year you're in a completely different scheme. 155 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 1: You know, you're all up against it because you were 156 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 1: trying to build off which you did last year. So 157 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 1: having a coach there for some time and you know, 158 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 1: creating that relationship, he knows how to push my buttons, 159 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 1: and you know, I think I'm better because of it. 160 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 2: I was talking to Colin Coward last week and we 161 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 2: were kind of talking about some teams that didn't win 162 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 2: the division last year that could win it this year, 163 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 2: and you guys came to my mind because both your 164 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 2: coordinators are back. Obviously your head coach has been the 165 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 2: same forever, and last year when you came on this podcast, 166 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 2: we talked about the quarterback big change for the first 167 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 2: time in forever. Well, you have a returning quarterback who 168 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 2: by the end of the season, I mean, you look 169 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 2: at I was watching some of his YouTube highlights and 170 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 2: I had kind of forgotten because we're in the middle 171 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 2: of June. He had some big time comebacks and at 172 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 2: the end of the season, obviously, you guys finished I 173 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 2: think seven to two to end the season, not under five. 174 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 2: Hundred because that's the Pittsburgh Steelers. Under no circumstances or 175 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:35,319 Speaker 2: are going under five hundred, you feel, you know, it's 176 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 2: hard in the off season you don't have pads on, 177 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 2: but just the cohesion, the talent you have, the coaching 178 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 2: staff all returning pretty confident about where you are different 179 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 2: even from last year. 180 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:48,959 Speaker 1: You know, I don't like to buy too much stock 181 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 1: into the off season, but I like to think we 182 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 1: addressed a lot of needs and brought in the right people. 183 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 1: But you know, going into the second year of our quarterback, 184 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 1: you know, the sky's the limit for him. I think 185 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 1: Kenny has done a tremendous job to get us to 186 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:06,960 Speaker 1: this point. But you know, I know he's chomping at 187 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 1: the bit for more, and you know he's a hunger quarterback, 188 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 1: and so surround him with a lot of moving parts, 189 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 1: whether it's another wide receiver and Alan Robinson, you know, 190 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 1: more depth on the old line, and I just think 191 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 1: solidifying that group can do wonders for him. If he's 192 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 1: got time back there and he's able to process a 193 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:31,440 Speaker 1: little bit more, I think he's gonna have a lot 194 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 1: of success going forward. 195 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 2: Was there a moment last year when he became the 196 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 2: full time starter, whether it be a game, whether it 197 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 2: be a week in practice where you saw something with 198 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 2: him that your confidence level as a player who's been 199 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 2: around a Hall of Fame quarterback and Ben I'm not 200 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 2: saying comparing him that he's going to be that, but 201 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 2: I'm just saying that we can win with this player, 202 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:51,960 Speaker 2: or I feel confident in him as a player. 203 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 1: Well, I think you just look at December in January, 204 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 1: and you know, anytime it wasn't going his way, it 205 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 1: never felt like he was out of sorts or it 206 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 1: felt like, you know, the moment was too big for him. 207 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 1: You can look in the Baltimore game, Uh, and you 208 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 1: know that I don't think they'd given up, you know, 209 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:15,440 Speaker 1: a score in the fourth quarter for like some like 210 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 1: amount of you know quarters, which was crazy, and you 211 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 1: know he goes down and you know, puts together a 212 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 1: drive and you know, you just see here there it 213 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:28,200 Speaker 1: wasn't just one person. He was feeding everybody. And then 214 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:31,079 Speaker 1: you look at that, you know, the Christmas game versus 215 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 1: uh the Raiders, and you know that was you know 216 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 1: a little bit of the same. And so every time 217 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 1: we've needed a big drive at the end of the game, 218 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 1: he was answer and he was able to answer the 219 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 1: call and answer the bell. So you know, I just 220 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 1: look forward to him not waiting till the fourth quarter. 221 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 1: Let's let's get off the bus doing that, and I 222 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 1: think we have a lot more success that way. 223 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 2: For those older Steeler fans, you go back to back 224 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:59,199 Speaker 2: weeks being the Raiders on Christmas and then beating the Ravens. 225 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 2: I mean, that's what's that. That's two wins, but that's 226 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 2: worth about five. 227 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, you start to think, man, if we 228 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 1: had just gotten a chance to getting that playoff mix. 229 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:12,079 Speaker 1: You know, I thought we got hot at the right time. 230 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 1: And some of it is luck, some of it is 231 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 1: getting hot at the right time. Injuries, all these things 232 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 1: have to work together to have a good chance in 233 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 1: the playoffs. But I just liked that we were getting 234 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 1: healthy at the right time. We had just gotten TJ back. 235 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 1: There are a lot of things moving in the right direction, 236 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 1: but in the end, we get a chance to really 237 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 1: punch our mark to the playoffs. 238 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:38,840 Speaker 2: You notice a different different confidence with him in this offseason, 239 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 2: now that he's the starting quarterback, that he's played a lot. 240 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I think he's asking a lot more questions, 241 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 1: you know, higher level questions. It's not just what am 242 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 1: I seeing here? You know, you know what different looks 243 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:54,439 Speaker 1: of am I getting. I think he's asking the questions 244 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 1: to be more twofold, where it's you know, how can 245 00:11:57,160 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 1: I dictate a defense? And you know, having that, you know, 246 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 1: a year under his belt, I think he's going to 247 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 1: you know, really move the group forward. And you know 248 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 1: the great thing about it is we have a guy 249 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:11,439 Speaker 1: like Mitch Trubisky and Mason Rudolph who have experienced at 250 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 1: starting this league, so you know that room consists of, 251 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:18,439 Speaker 1: you know, three good offensive minds that are going to 252 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 1: be pushing the quarterback position forward. 253 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 2: One thing feeling that I could never shake when I 254 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:25,599 Speaker 2: was just a scout of being a practice when a 255 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:27,559 Speaker 2: guy would go down, or at a game and a 256 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 2: guy would go down. You're in the league long enough, 257 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:32,599 Speaker 2: whether it's a coach or a player, you know, I 258 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 2: don't think you ever get numb to it. But last 259 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 2: year when TJ has that injury, you know, you've been 260 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 2: in the league a long time. I mean, he's clearly 261 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 2: on the short list of just impact star players and 262 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 2: his talent is undeniable. Is that something that because it's 263 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 2: so easy next man up. Well, it's like there's not 264 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 2: a next man up for a guy like that. Is 265 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 2: that just obviously it's a gut punch, But how do 266 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 2: you move on? And then you hope he comes back? 267 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:59,199 Speaker 2: But how do you deal with something like that when 268 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:02,200 Speaker 2: a player of that level or caliber And you've dealt 269 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 2: with it in the past with Ben when he's gone down, But. 270 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 1: How do you deal with it? You know, I think 271 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 1: it comes down to everybody just staying locked. In that 272 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 1: first game of the year, we were you know, we 273 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 1: were on a tight one with the Bengals and I 274 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 1: think we had like ninety plays on defense. It was 275 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 1: a hot one too, So we had to, you know, 276 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:25,559 Speaker 1: just buy into what we're doing. I think a lot 277 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 1: of guys think they have to play out a character 278 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 1: when one guy goes down. But I think with our defense, 279 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:34,680 Speaker 1: the best thing you can do is play up to 280 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 1: your ability, play what you're supposed to. We don't need 281 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 1: you to, you know, do a million things, and you know, 282 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 1: try to play out a character and try to be 283 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 1: the next T. J. Watt. Nobody's asking you to do that. 284 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:50,200 Speaker 1: And so, you know, when we did have success, it 285 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 1: was guys just doing their jobs, not trying to do 286 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 1: TJ's job, not trying to replace the void. You're not 287 00:13:57,120 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 1: going to replace a void like that, So we have 288 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 1: to mix it up and do things a little bit different. 289 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:03,199 Speaker 1: You look at a guy like Alex Heighsmith really stepping 290 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 1: up in that. You know, I know the record didn't 291 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:08,200 Speaker 1: speak for it when TJ was out, But you look 292 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:12,440 Speaker 1: at a guy like Alex Highsmith going for fourteen fifteen sacks. 293 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 1: You know, he answered the bell and was ready to, 294 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 1: you know, really seize that moment. 295 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 2: How good do you think this defense can be this fall? 296 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 2: You just mentioned him. TJ healthy now, Minka, ever since 297 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 2: you got him as just a flat out star, you know, 298 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 2: no big deal. You've just got back to back double 299 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 2: digit sack season, still kicking ass, taking names. Just Terrell Austin, 300 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 2: you know, coming back as a defensive coordinator. It wasn't 301 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 2: that I was thinking about it this year, or I 302 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 2: mean when I was looking at his name as your 303 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 2: defensive coordinator. Wasn't that long ago that he was viewed 304 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 2: as like the next star defensive head coach back when 305 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 2: he was with the Lions. So you know, you have 306 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 2: a big year. Who knows he could go off and 307 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 2: be a head coach really quickly. You know, how good, 308 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 2: how high is the ceiling for this defense with the 309 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 2: unit and the players you have? 310 00:14:56,960 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 1: Well, what did Jordans say? The ceiling is the roof? Yeah, 311 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 1: you know, I think, I think. I think for us, 312 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 1: it's just about answering that call every single week. Do 313 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 1: we have the talent and we have the guys that 314 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 1: do it, Yes, but it's something that has to be 315 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 1: answered every week. You know, I don't think the best 316 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 1: defense is crowned after one week, and I don't think 317 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 1: it's crowned after two weeks. To be the best defense 318 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 1: in our league, you need a crown on your head. 319 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 1: That's saying you're the super Bowl champion. And you know 320 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 1: to do that, you got to do it every week. 321 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 1: We can't be taking weeks off. We can't have those 322 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 1: blenders where you know, running back you know, had some yards. 323 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 1: It's got to be consistently. You know, our goal to 324 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 1: dominate every which way on defense because we have the 325 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 1: guys that do it, you know, making the back end. 326 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 1: You know, our inside linebackers, our corners with Pat p Our, 327 00:15:53,480 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 1: outside linebackers with Alex Heismith and t J. Watt, myself, 328 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 1: Larry Ogunjobi have to lead the crew. We have leaders 329 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 1: at every spot that you know, there shouldn't be looking 330 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 1: around for looking for others to do it. We should 331 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 1: be able to do it. 332 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 2: You guys start implementing anything in the off season when 333 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 2: you have a Week one opponent that's an uncommon opponent 334 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 2: like the forty nine ers, did just stick Bay stuff? 335 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 2: Like did you do any of that in OTA's or 336 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 2: is that something that you get into training camp. 337 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 1: That's more individually I think right now, I think coaches 338 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 1: break it down individually, don't always share with players, and 339 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 1: players do it individual individually as well, just to really, 340 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 1: you know, become familiar with their opponent so you can 341 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 1: really start to gauge where you need to go and 342 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 1: what you got to take advantage of what they're going 343 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 1: to do. You know, forty nine ers are a really 344 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 1: good team. You know, they got one of my guys 345 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 1: and Javon Hargray over over there now and Mobster. Yeah. 346 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 1: To go along with that, you got Nick Bosa, so 347 00:16:57,280 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 1: you know, you got two guys that can easily go 348 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 1: off for two to three sacks a game. So we 349 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 1: got our work cutout for them. But you know, I 350 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 1: think everybody's just really looking at tape by themselves and 351 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:14,959 Speaker 1: seeing how they can develop and be better going into 352 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 1: that Week one. 353 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 2: Like when you have teams in your division that make 354 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:21,399 Speaker 2: coordinator changes, like the Ravens for example, now that we 355 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 2: know Lamar's coming back, but they get a new offensive coordinator, 356 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 2: or even like the Browns. I know you played him 357 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 2: at the end of the year when Deshaun was back, 358 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 2: but it's kind of hard to judge him given how 359 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 2: far is that something you keep an eye on and 360 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:37,160 Speaker 2: over the offseason start making mental notes to offensive schemes 361 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 2: with new coaches coming in on a team, obviously it's 362 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:40,920 Speaker 2: not just your rival, but it's a team you play 363 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 2: multiple times a year. 364 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:45,120 Speaker 1: You know, I think right now you kind of look 365 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 1: try to look at that it can be tougher because 366 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 1: there's not a lot of film in that system with 367 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 1: those group of guys individually, you can look at those 368 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:56,159 Speaker 1: players and say, this is what they're capable of, this 369 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:59,919 Speaker 1: is what they've done, this is what they've shown on tape. 370 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 1: You know, in a different scheme. I'm really big on 371 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:07,879 Speaker 1: looking at preseason tape. You know, Week one is always 372 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:10,680 Speaker 1: a blunder because there are a million things going on 373 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 1: and everybody thinks they they have the smartest playbook going 374 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:18,200 Speaker 1: in and so they're going to try a million things 375 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:21,120 Speaker 1: try to confuse you. But you have to stay true 376 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:24,199 Speaker 1: to your technique in your craft and can't take as 377 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:26,879 Speaker 1: many chances in that week one because you know so 378 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 1: many guys are dialing up things. 379 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 2: You think the Ravens, who their offense once they got 380 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 2: Lamar implemented, was pretty unique relative to the rest of 381 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:36,399 Speaker 2: the NFL in terms of their run scheme. 382 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:38,120 Speaker 1: You have to think. 383 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 2: So, you know, but do you think that stays Because 384 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:42,959 Speaker 2: they've talked about I don't know, you follow like some 385 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 2: of us do the headlines, they're going to get a 386 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 2: little more pass happy that maybe the run scheme. Do 387 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:51,119 Speaker 2: they become like a you know, four or five wide receiver, 388 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 2: spread it out offense, which feels like you guys wouldn't 389 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 2: complain about. 390 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, that is the complete opposite of the Ravens. You know, 391 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:00,399 Speaker 1: you look at those games. They're going out there with 392 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 1: three tight ends, two tight ends and a fullback. How 393 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 1: many teams were carrying a fullback in the NFL last year, 394 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:11,440 Speaker 1: not that many now, And so you know they had 395 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:16,160 Speaker 1: a recipe for success, and they were doing it without 396 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:19,919 Speaker 1: Lamar half of the year, so it's going to be 397 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:23,440 Speaker 1: different for them. But you know, I wonder if there's 398 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 1: going to have to be a mixture of both, whether 399 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 1: it's staying on the same page if you had last 400 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:32,879 Speaker 1: year adding some things, adding some rinkles. Because that running 401 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:38,199 Speaker 1: game is second to none. Man, they not often did 402 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:41,920 Speaker 1: you get, you know, multiple running backs, your quarterback running 403 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:47,159 Speaker 1: for a bunch. That's very rare in early because quarterbacks 404 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 1: don't last long when you do that. But we'll see 405 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 1: what they're going to do going forward. I think Lamar 406 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:55,919 Speaker 1: said he wants to throw for four thousand so or 407 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:58,920 Speaker 1: six thousand, you name it, so we'll just be ready 408 00:19:58,920 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 1: for it all. 409 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 2: Do you know that Angie's List is now Angie your 410 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 2: Home for everything Home. 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Last year, you came on about 426 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 2: the same time and we talked about your brother being drafted, 427 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 2: and one of the cool moments during the twenty twenty 428 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:11,439 Speaker 2: two season I vividly remember was you walking off the 429 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:13,679 Speaker 2: field with Mike Tom and your brother had scored on 430 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 2: that game in Atlanta, his first career touchdown. Just talk 431 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:19,920 Speaker 2: to me about that game, that lead up to that game, 432 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 2: that moment with him doing that and then that kind 433 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:24,919 Speaker 2: of that walk off that kind of went viral for 434 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 2: us on the outside to see because it was pretty cool. 435 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, that week was pretty special. I think we all 436 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 1: had circle that week in my family. My wife had 437 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:36,119 Speaker 1: even flown down for the game. She never flies for 438 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 1: any of the game, so she knew something was going 439 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 1: to happen. But you know, going down to where me 440 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 1: and my brother grew up, where a dad played for 441 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 1: the Falcons, and you know, we got a chance to 442 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 1: go to his resting place, his gravesite, and you know, 443 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 1: we just got to spend some time with him. But 444 00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 1: never did in my life that I thought that. You know, 445 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:05,720 Speaker 1: in the game, I got in a sack and you know, 446 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 1: then they had the punt, and then the next series 447 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:13,400 Speaker 1: Connor goes down and scores a touchdown and it kind 448 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 1: of hit me all once. I wasn't expecting it to 449 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 1: hit me because I wasn't even thinking about it, but 450 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 1: you know, you know, it was really cool to see 451 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:24,879 Speaker 1: him score his first touchdown. And then I started seeing 452 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:27,680 Speaker 1: videos and it was kind of like Connor had scored 453 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:30,919 Speaker 1: the same way at my dad had scored his first touchdown. Wow. 454 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 1: And so you know, and then Connor's telling me after 455 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 1: the game, Kenny came up to him and said, we're 456 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:39,440 Speaker 1: gonna get this win for you, guys. We're gonna get this. 457 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:42,359 Speaker 1: You know, be ready because I'm gonna throw you the ball, 458 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:45,400 Speaker 1: and so, you know, all these different things were going 459 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 1: into it, and I broke down and cried in the 460 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 1: middle the game, I cried like a baby and I'm 461 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 1: trying to hide and there's cameras around. I'm like, maybe 462 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 1: they didn't get me. And then you know, the social 463 00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 1: teams coming to me. We got you. You know, we're 464 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:00,879 Speaker 1: gonna show you to you later. But but you know, 465 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:04,359 Speaker 1: it was just an unbelievable moment. Uh, friends and family 466 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:07,200 Speaker 1: were all there and we got the w on top 467 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:09,400 Speaker 1: of that. So you know, it was a I don't 468 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:11,199 Speaker 1: like to call it a storybook ending, but it was 469 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:13,440 Speaker 1: a nice chapter to go along in the book. 470 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 2: Did it become more normal as a season went along 471 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 2: playing with your brother? Is it still something that you 472 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:22,160 Speaker 2: think about, like this is still pretty crazy. 473 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:25,359 Speaker 1: Well, we got done working out today, and you know, 474 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:29,120 Speaker 1: just having those moments of when we're just working out 475 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 1: and you know, having those moments of just like like 476 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:36,359 Speaker 1: when he's frustrated a little bit, I can just you know, 477 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 1: give him that extra wisdom what he's doing stuff, right, Yeah, 478 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,159 Speaker 1: you know, because I didn't have that growing up. I 479 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 1: didn't have that when I got into the league. But 480 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:48,399 Speaker 1: you know, being able to share with him all this 481 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 1: different knowledge and you know, it's funny. I feel like 482 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:56,920 Speaker 1: for every rookie there is you know, these hurdles during 483 00:23:56,920 --> 00:24:01,400 Speaker 1: the season and they don't expect it, but it happens. 484 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:04,399 Speaker 1: And you know, I had I got a chance to 485 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 1: reiterate to him. It was like, aren't you just light 486 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:11,920 Speaker 1: years of where you were a year ago? And He's like, yeah, 487 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 1: I feel I'm in better shape. I know the playbuck 488 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 1: a lot better. And you know, I'm like, dude, believe 489 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 1: in that. Like you know you you are thriving right now. 490 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 1: You were doing things the right way. And so I'm 491 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:26,360 Speaker 1: excited for him. You know, it's really cool. I get 492 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 1: to be a fan of him on Sundays and I 493 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 1: get to be a teammate too. So I don't tell 494 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:35,160 Speaker 1: him that often usually in practice i'm giving him hell 495 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:38,720 Speaker 1: or you know, talking a whole bunch of crap. You know, 496 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 1: because he's on offense, I'm going to let him hear 497 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 1: about it more. And you know, when he does drop 498 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 1: the ball, which is rarely h it's just it's opening 499 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:50,879 Speaker 1: Pandora's box for me, and I just get to let 500 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:51,359 Speaker 1: him have it. 501 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:53,359 Speaker 2: You know, you brought up something that I think a 502 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:55,159 Speaker 2: lot of us that have never played, you know, in 503 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 2: the NFL, just the rookie wall. He's hitting the rookie wall. 504 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 2: What is the rook wall? And like why because some 505 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 2: guys don't hit it right, they have unreal rookie seasons. 506 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:07,680 Speaker 2: But for the most part, it feels like most guys 507 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:10,120 Speaker 2: go through a little ull. Maybe I don't know after 508 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 2: Halloween or the middle of November. Is the length of 509 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 2: the season, is the physicality of the game, is it 510 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,639 Speaker 2: the is it the scheme, element of the depth of 511 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 2: a playbook? What ultimately is the rookie wall. I think 512 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 2: it's a cumulative effect. I don't think it's just one thing, 513 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:28,879 Speaker 2: you know, because I think it hits guys in completely 514 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 2: different ways. Whether it's an off field thing and you're 515 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:36,440 Speaker 2: just trying to stay focused, but you're exerting so much 516 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 2: energy and you know you can, you know, run yourself 517 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 2: into the ground a little bit. You see so many 518 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 2: guys like I feel like you could be after practice, 519 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 2: you could be knocked out on the floor. Just you 520 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:49,920 Speaker 2: can start to see guys feel it. 521 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:55,399 Speaker 1: And whether it's after games and you're just exhausted, but 522 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 1: it's just about you know. I feel like after that 523 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:01,879 Speaker 1: you're able to bounce back a lot more because you 524 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 1: have to know what they expect. I think the unknowingness 525 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 1: of the season, in all the twists and turns and 526 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:11,200 Speaker 1: playing on a Thursday night and playing on Sunday Monday, 527 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:15,880 Speaker 1: you can never really catch your bearing until you get 528 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 1: used to the chaos that is the NFL. I think 529 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:24,720 Speaker 1: embracing that your second year, your third year and knowing 530 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 1: what you're getting into definitely prepares you're going for and 531 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:31,879 Speaker 1: you know it lets guys know that they can accomplish 532 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 1: a lot more. 533 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 2: Do you as a veteran player obviously get tired during 534 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 2: games or whatever, But do you get fatigued as a 535 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 2: season goes along, or do you understand the marathon of 536 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 2: a season at this point just have a routine and 537 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:47,680 Speaker 2: unfazed by that, or are you just human and it's 538 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 2: going to hit everyone at some point. 539 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 1: I think it's veterans. I think you don't get as fatigued. 540 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:54,440 Speaker 1: I think you try to embrace it and try to 541 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 1: get even in more shape. You know, whether it's week 542 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 1: one going to you know, week ten, there's just a 543 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 1: constantly you want to be on the rise. You don't 544 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 1: want to be a guy that's you know, up and 545 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 1: down a roller coaster. You want to be a guy 546 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:11,920 Speaker 1: that consistently gets better week in and week out, and 547 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 1: that comes with developing a plan. A lot of young 548 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:18,160 Speaker 1: guys don't have plans. They don't have regiments they go by, 549 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:21,160 Speaker 1: whether it's taking care of their bodies, or spending more 550 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:24,440 Speaker 1: time before practice or after practice, or in the weight 551 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:28,160 Speaker 1: room or you know, in the film room. There are 552 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 1: so many different things that you know, as veteran guys, 553 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:35,679 Speaker 1: you cross off your list that helps you prepare that 554 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,160 Speaker 1: once you do that, you feel more comfortable and more 555 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:39,160 Speaker 1: confident in what you're doing. 556 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:41,679 Speaker 2: Are you a guy that takes Monday and Tuesday very 557 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:45,720 Speaker 2: seriously because obviously, you know, you take your craft seriously, 558 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:48,359 Speaker 2: but you want to be fresh for Wednesday because practicing 559 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 2: and getting ready you feel more prepared come Sunday. I 560 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,480 Speaker 2: heard George Kittle say that it's so important for him 561 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,400 Speaker 2: to do everything humanly possible to feel fresh by Wednesday 562 00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 2: because he likes practicing on Wednesday, which leads to confidence. 563 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:01,959 Speaker 2: Is the week goes along leading up the Sunday? 564 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:05,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I think Monday and Tuesday are you 565 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:08,880 Speaker 1: know what during the season, you don't usually get your 566 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 1: Monday victory mondays where you get time off, but even 567 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:13,880 Speaker 1: if you do get time off, it's not like I'm 568 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:17,199 Speaker 1: really taking time off. It's you know, getting a workout in, 569 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:21,439 Speaker 1: doing some extra cardio, you know, finding you know, getting 570 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 1: the cold tub or hot tubs, doing contrast, film work, bodywork, massages, 571 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 1: you know, taking care of rehab. 572 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:29,719 Speaker 2: Uh. 573 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 1: You know that's just the start on week on day one, 574 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 1: and then you're just trying to constantly build on top 575 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 1: of that, trying to get your body back. That way, 576 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 1: you can really hit the ground running on Wednesday. 577 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 2: Speaking of Monday Tuesday, you have, according to the schedule, 578 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 2: multiple Thursday games this season. 579 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 1: Now see, I'll see it Thursday. I'll see that. Yeah. 580 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 2: Now one of the second Thursday game is flexible. I 581 00:28:56,680 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 2: guess it's potential, but it's it's you guys and the Patriot. 582 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 2: It's not going to get flexed. Your bye week is 583 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 2: week six. Both your Thursday games come early November and 584 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 2: then early December. Initial thoughts when you saw that, ooh, I. 585 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 1: Probably did one of those. So you know, you look 586 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 1: at that schedule and you're like, you embrace the night games. 587 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 1: You embrace Sunday nights, Monday nights, Thursday night when you 588 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 1: get an extra one thrown in there. It's just from 589 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:35,240 Speaker 1: the going into the game it's rough because you don't 590 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 1: have that much time to prepare and it's just a 591 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 1: constant let me shove everything into about two to three 592 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 1: days to get me ready for Thursday. There's not even 593 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 1: really a practice, it's just walkthroughs at that point. But 594 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 1: on the backside, it's pretty nice. Man, Like Friday, Saturday, Sunday, 595 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 1: you can really you know, recover good if you can 596 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 1: make it out some of those times. You know, you 597 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 1: get a lot of blowouts and the team that gets 598 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 1: the blowout is able to rest your guys a little 599 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 1: bit quicker and then you know, take advantage of the time. 600 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:14,320 Speaker 1: But man, if you're in a rough one, it's you know, 601 00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 1: it's mono non no, it's it's both teams, you know, 602 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 1: worn down. So but out of the you're you're really 603 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:22,240 Speaker 1: appreciate that time to really recover. 604 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 2: Did you see Jason Kelsey's take on that he thought 605 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 2: anyone who was anti Thursday night game was kind of 606 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:32,480 Speaker 2: full of shit because he loves them because if you're 607 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 2: able to win it, you just put all your chips 608 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 2: in the middle table. You get kind of that mini 609 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,600 Speaker 2: bye week, and like we said, your your bye week 610 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 2: is week six, but if you win that Titans game, 611 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:44,960 Speaker 2: the first Thursday Night game, you basically get multiple kind 612 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:48,200 Speaker 2: of a second bye week back, you know, in like 613 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 2: a four week span. 614 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:52,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, let's just be addicted at the winning at that point, 615 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:56,719 Speaker 1: because you know, you want that time off and you 616 00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 1: know you want a good you know, on a good stench. 617 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 1: If you lose out of that, that's a lot of 618 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:05,360 Speaker 1: time to just keep, you know, glossing over the same mistakes. 619 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:10,000 Speaker 1: You know, I think Kelsey's uh, you know, o Lineman, 620 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 1: they liked they don't have to run as much, so 621 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 1: they're okay with that. 622 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 2: Now, both both those Thursday night games, assuming the Titans 623 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 2: are still a run heavy team, and obviously the Patriots 624 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 2: are going to be a pretty run heavy, physical team. 625 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:24,680 Speaker 2: I mean those they're gonna be two physical games. 626 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:28,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, luckily it's not the Baltimore Ravens 627 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 1: game because manh wely plenty of those. You know, Cleveland's 628 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 1: like that as well, So you really gotta, you know, 629 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:39,800 Speaker 1: just prepare everybody for war. And you know that struggle 630 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:41,240 Speaker 1: I like it. 631 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 2: You know, when you guys played, like on Thanksgiving, your 632 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 2: Thursday night game against the Ravens on Thursday night, us 633 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 2: sitting on the couch, you know, Turkey hangover and you 634 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:49,800 Speaker 2: guys are just laying it on the line, you know, 635 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 2: you guys. 636 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 1: And then we have Thanksgiving the day after, and then 637 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:56,240 Speaker 1: I get to watch everybody else. That's the only part 638 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:56,560 Speaker 1: I like. 639 00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:59,959 Speaker 2: Another big story. I'm sure you've seen around the lead 640 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 2: some of these guys getting suspended for gambling. And I 641 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,560 Speaker 2: think there was a recent story last week that either 642 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:08,600 Speaker 2: a rookie around the league the name hadn't come out, 643 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 2: that had lost like eight million dollars. Because technically, I 644 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:13,720 Speaker 2: think you guys are allowed to gamble on other sports, 645 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 2: just not football. I think there are a lot of 646 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 2: people screaming out on the internet whether it's fair or 647 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:20,440 Speaker 2: not because the NFL is in bed now with these 648 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 2: gambling companies. Though through the salary cap, you benefit revenue 649 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 2: the players do, right, it gets distributed. But first and foremost, 650 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 2: do you feel pretty knowledgeable? Every single year with the 651 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:36,200 Speaker 2: Pittsburgh Steelers, they talk pretty you know, specifically about the 652 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,840 Speaker 2: dues and don'ts when it comes to gambling, especially now 653 00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:39,480 Speaker 2: that it's legal. 654 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, we have security meetings every year since 655 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,600 Speaker 1: I've been in the league and we talk about you know, 656 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:50,720 Speaker 1: gambling not being in a sportsbook all. You know, I 657 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 1: feel like the rules do change a little bit with 658 00:32:53,800 --> 00:33:00,520 Speaker 1: you know, how much gambling is part of our league now. Yeah, 659 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:01,480 Speaker 1: but you. 660 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:04,440 Speaker 2: Know, some of these stadiums have sports books in them now, 661 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,480 Speaker 2: which is wild. I know, it's wild. 662 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 1: You know. I talked to some of my friends and 663 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 1: they're like, they showed me like the basketball side of it, 664 00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:15,480 Speaker 1: and I'm like, guys, this is way too much like 665 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 1: you're you're you're looking for triple doubles. You're looking for 666 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 1: you know, him him hit these points, and then you know, 667 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:27,120 Speaker 1: you start hearing about all the different you know, options 668 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:30,200 Speaker 1: they have along with it. I just if you want 669 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,760 Speaker 1: to remain cleaning it, just don't do it at all. 670 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 1: You know. I think we're paid handsomely for what we do, 671 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:40,120 Speaker 1: but you know, I do not understand. We're competitive in 672 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 1: everything we do. But when you start messing with the 673 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:47,520 Speaker 1: gambling side, it becomes very wonky and you know, exposes 674 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:50,840 Speaker 1: yourself up to you know, a whole lot of stuff 675 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:52,120 Speaker 1: that's not good for our league. 676 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:55,120 Speaker 2: Do you have any problem with the NFL doing business 677 00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:58,440 Speaker 2: with these companies? And then kind of mandating it to 678 00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:01,960 Speaker 2: the players. You can't gamble literally on your own team, 679 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:03,960 Speaker 2: but even if you wanted to gamble. One thing a 680 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:06,400 Speaker 2: guy got in trouble for was making a college bet 681 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,160 Speaker 2: from the facility. I think it's one of the Lions guys. 682 00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:10,840 Speaker 2: So it wasn't even gambling on the NFL. He was 683 00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:14,239 Speaker 2: just gambling on a college game, which some could say 684 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:16,360 Speaker 2: he was a rookie. Still knows guys you know that 685 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,400 Speaker 2: are playing in college maybe you know quarterbacks out or 686 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:22,520 Speaker 2: something inside information. I think technically they're very sensitive about 687 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:23,640 Speaker 2: that type stuff. 688 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:25,799 Speaker 1: So that's a little bit different. I think, you know, 689 00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:30,600 Speaker 1: when you look at the NFL, you're like, eh, you're 690 00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:34,040 Speaker 1: allowed to gamble, and literally look at the product as 691 00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:36,920 Speaker 1: it going. I can't gamble on a college game that 692 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:40,520 Speaker 1: I have no out I have no desired outcome, that 693 00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:45,719 Speaker 1: I don't have any insider information. But I just you know, 694 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:50,040 Speaker 1: it's it's such a tight rope to walk, and you 695 00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:54,359 Speaker 1: know the rules are ever changing, but I guess we're 696 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:57,360 Speaker 1: exposing ourselves up to that with having you know, the 697 00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:04,360 Speaker 1: casinos and having different you know, you know, different streams 698 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:06,640 Speaker 1: of revenue in our game, and so you have to 699 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:09,720 Speaker 1: it's just we have to keep our eyes and ears 700 00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:13,080 Speaker 1: open because you know, it's speaking to the crowd, not 701 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:13,840 Speaker 1: just one person. 702 00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:17,400 Speaker 2: Before gambling became so prevalent as a player, it's not 703 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:20,680 Speaker 2: like you're locked into we're a ten point underdog or 704 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:22,919 Speaker 2: we're a five point favorite. Right, So when people would 705 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,000 Speaker 2: ask you that specifically, probably the media or even a buddy, 706 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,239 Speaker 2: like you're a big underdog, did you even know what 707 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:31,719 Speaker 2: that meant? Specifically to the line, John, I kid you not. 708 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,000 Speaker 2: They brought it up on my podcast and I was like, 709 00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,759 Speaker 2: what are y'all talking about? I'm worried about the w 710 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,800 Speaker 2: I don't give a damn about what the point spread 711 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:44,319 Speaker 2: is or b. They tried to say, hey, say this 712 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,520 Speaker 2: like you know, you know, say you're an underdog, and 713 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:49,959 Speaker 2: I'm like, nah, I'm not doing that, Like I don't 714 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:51,240 Speaker 2: ever believe I'm an underdog. 715 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:53,319 Speaker 1: And you know, you can set up there and look 716 00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:56,040 Speaker 1: at what Vegas does, but that's just not me. 717 00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:01,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a story clearly not gonna go away. Just 718 00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:04,279 Speaker 2: because every year it seems like younger players you know 719 00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:06,560 Speaker 2: a little probably you've been in it long enough and 720 00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:09,239 Speaker 2: heard seen it all. Some of these younger guys are 721 00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:12,440 Speaker 2: just gonna get money for the first time. Well, Anil's 722 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:14,319 Speaker 2: I think changing the game, right. I mean you just 723 00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:16,120 Speaker 2: can you just draft a guy from Georgia. I think 724 00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:17,880 Speaker 2: you know he's not he's not coming and broke. 725 00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:22,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, GP, I think all of Georgia guys never never 726 00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:24,720 Speaker 1: had to worry about, you know, a meal or anything. 727 00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:28,279 Speaker 1: So I think they were pretty well suited going into 728 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:28,720 Speaker 1: the league. 729 00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:30,719 Speaker 2: Well, I'll get you out here on this. You got 730 00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:33,120 Speaker 2: a rookie scatting report on your on your first round 731 00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:33,920 Speaker 2: offensive lineman. 732 00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:37,680 Speaker 1: You know, I love his I love his tenacity. He's 733 00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:40,920 Speaker 1: got a good body. You know, he's able to move well, 734 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:44,759 Speaker 1: quick feet, and there's just things he's gonna keep working on. 735 00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:47,839 Speaker 1: I don't like to, you know, gas the rookie and 736 00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,560 Speaker 1: just give him all the keys to the car. But uh, 737 00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:53,680 Speaker 1: he's he's setting himself up nice and you know he's 738 00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:55,839 Speaker 1: gonna be a big player down the road. 739 00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:58,839 Speaker 2: In general, with the draft class, I mean, you're with 740 00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:00,880 Speaker 2: one of the teams that's probably known in all of 741 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:04,160 Speaker 2: sports is one of the best drafting you know, organizations 742 00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:07,839 Speaker 2: top to bottom. Ani position. Do you have a good 743 00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:10,480 Speaker 2: idea right away or do you have to see in 744 00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:14,200 Speaker 2: pads or even preseason games before you feel confident, like 745 00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:16,840 Speaker 2: telling a buddy or telling an assistant coach like I 746 00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:19,640 Speaker 2: think we got some or we might have some problems here. 747 00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:23,319 Speaker 1: O line, or just you know when you really look 748 00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:27,359 Speaker 1: in the trenches. I look at games and you know, 749 00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:33,040 Speaker 1: in pads because you know there's plenty of guys who 750 00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:34,200 Speaker 1: are you know. 751 00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:36,040 Speaker 2: Underwear here sweet stand in the area. 752 00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:39,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, Like you start doing that cute stuff and then 753 00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:42,279 Speaker 1: somebody hits it in their face and then you just 754 00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:46,359 Speaker 1: completely just can't do anything after. I think that says 755 00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:48,600 Speaker 1: a lot about you. Being able to see how you 756 00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:52,479 Speaker 1: react to certain situations really tells us if you're ready 757 00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:56,040 Speaker 1: for those moments. So we'll see what we got in preseason. 758 00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:59,120 Speaker 1: And then you know, when you really put the pads 759 00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:02,200 Speaker 1: on and you're in those bright light moments and you've 760 00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:04,640 Speaker 1: got a guy injured and you step in, are you 761 00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:07,040 Speaker 1: ready for that moment? Are you ready to seize that 762 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:11,000 Speaker 1: one thing? Coach t Alre says, one man's misfortune is 763 00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:14,839 Speaker 1: another man's treasure, and so that's just about seizing that 764 00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:18,480 Speaker 1: moment and really understanding this might be my only moment. 765 00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:19,680 Speaker 1: I got to make the most out of it. 766 00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:22,759 Speaker 2: Do you have a calendar the you mark X every 767 00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:26,000 Speaker 2: single day with that circle training camp day one starting, 768 00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:28,960 Speaker 2: I got to check into La trobe or are you 769 00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:30,799 Speaker 2: at that age yet you know where you're like kind 770 00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:32,480 Speaker 2: of peeking or has that always been something in the 771 00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:33,160 Speaker 2: back of your mind. 772 00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:36,120 Speaker 1: I think it glooms, but you know, in my mind, 773 00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:39,279 Speaker 1: I'm just I'm taking the day by day, you know, 774 00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:42,320 Speaker 1: I'm working on my craft and just embracing the grind 775 00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:45,799 Speaker 1: I'm going right now, you know. I feel like, you know, 776 00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:48,239 Speaker 1: you can start at the beginning of the season, the 777 00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:50,719 Speaker 1: off season and just you know, get to this moment 778 00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:53,839 Speaker 1: and be like, oh man, you know time has passed by. 779 00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:55,920 Speaker 1: It's right around the corner. But there's a lot of 780 00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:58,520 Speaker 1: work that can go into play that I'm just looking 781 00:38:58,520 --> 00:38:59,520 Speaker 1: forward to hitting right now. 782 00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:04,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, stay healthy, have a good have a good summer. 783 00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:08,320 Speaker 2: And I think I speak for everyone. Week one Niner Steelers, 784 00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:11,680 Speaker 2: you talk about an old school some bodies getting hit. 785 00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:14,319 Speaker 2: That's I already got that bad boy circle. I can't wait. 786 00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:15,680 Speaker 2: That's one of it's got to be one of the 787 00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:16,879 Speaker 2: better games of the first week. 788 00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:20,920 Speaker 1: Two good defenses that are just gonna, you know, have 789 00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:23,160 Speaker 1: it out and so I'm looking forward to it. 790 00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:26,840 Speaker 2: Well, good luck this upcoming season and look forward to 791 00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:27,600 Speaker 2: watching you guys play. 792 00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:51,520 Speaker 1: Appreciate you, Thank you for having me on the volume.